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Speaker 2: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 3: This this Morning Combat. Hey, it's the twenty ninth of March.

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Speaker 1: Can you believe it? We're almost done with March.

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Speaker 3: I can't, but here we are, twenty ninth of marxcuse

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Speaker 3: me twenty twenty three. It's time for Morning Combat. Hi everyone,

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Speaker 3: I am nearly one half of your hosting duo.

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Speaker 1: My name is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 3: I join you for the capital of the status and

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Speaker 1: It's my friend and yours. It's Brian Campbell. Hi, Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: Shout out Luke, Shout out to you. Shout out to

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Speaker 2: the great people at Contender's Clothing for this badass Rocky

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Speaker 1: Him the back real quick, Show him the back real quick.

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Speaker 3: So it's got every date literally in every place from

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Speaker 2: Including the street fight with Tommy Gunn and Rocky Five.

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Speaker 2: That may or may not have ever happened, But shout

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Speaker 2: wearing miamk Merch, always ready to go, Luke Ward an

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Speaker 1: We're yeah, pathetic dads is a good way to put it.

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Speaker 1: Something like that. Well, we got a lot to do today.

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Speaker 2: The next showbox is Friday, April seventh, twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 3: This will be at the Pachanga Resort and Casino into Mechula, California, Friday,

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Speaker 3: the thirty first of March on showtime. Marcelo Gold taken

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Speaker 3: As I mentioned, Katzenghano nearly nearly forty one years of age,

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Speaker 1: I think this would be her first.

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Speaker 1: I think that's right.

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Speaker 1: She's finding the number four contender. It's a thin division.

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Speaker 3: and two record, She's thirty years of age, she is

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Speaker 3: coming off of a win over Diana Silva was not

435
00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,960
Speaker 3: super inspiring. She had the loss to Nan O'Connor also

436
00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,240
Speaker 3: so not well. No loss would be inspiring per se,

437
00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,600
Speaker 3: but not the kind of loss we're like, wow, Okay,

438
00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,520
Speaker 3: didn't get her hand raised, but she can definitely make

439
00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:09,920
Speaker 3: some noise at the top of this division. I didn't

440
00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,879
Speaker 3: necessarily get that impression from watching it personally speaking. Obviously,

441
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,840
Speaker 3: she's from the UK North or she was born in

442
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Speaker 3: Northern Ireland. She trains out of SBG.

443
00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,000
Speaker 1: Charleston, so we'll see Charlestown.

444
00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,520
Speaker 3: She's British obviously, so we'll see how this goes well

445
00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,840
Speaker 3: the UK, I should say, but you know she represents

446
00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,280
Speaker 3: the UK, so.

447
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,560
Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes. I think she is British.

448
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:41,320
Speaker 3: Actually I could be making up something here, but anyway,

449
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,280
Speaker 3: kazan Ghana's fight to win or lose basically, and if

450
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,199
Speaker 3: she doesn't win and it's a clean loss, that's I

451
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,440
Speaker 3: think that's really going to be probably it for any

452
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,520
Speaker 3: kind of major aspirations for what you want to do.

453
00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,680
Speaker 3: The clock is I mean, the sands are going through

454
00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,959
Speaker 3: the hour last year. Anytime you're dealing with any division

455
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,920
Speaker 3: sub one hund five pounds and someone's pushing above thirty five,

456
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 3: that's a red flag. And then even in heavyweight, when

457
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 3: someone gets forty or over, you're like, okay, how much

458
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 3: time has really left? I think Zigano has done something

459
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 3: pretty miraculous in extending her career as long as she has,

460
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 3: so credit to her for that.

461
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Speaker 1: But it's been difficult. It's been difficult, all right.

462
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 3: Also in his card, John Salter, a good middleweight name,

463
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,400
Speaker 3: is back against Aaron Jeffery. How about Rousta Hablov taking

464
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 3: on Julia Willis Jolil Willis a great guy out of

465
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 3: I think, a champion out of LFA for a time

466
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 3: and was supposed to make a big impact when he

467
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,360
Speaker 3: came over to Bellatore. Hasn't exactly worked out that way.

468
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 3: So he fought mccammed Brokemov. He loses that one via

469
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 3: guillotine choke. Actually he thought, excuse me, he fought a

470
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 3: couple of bouts before that and they went okay. He

471
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,439
Speaker 3: decisioned him. Then he but it wasn't like against super

472
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 3: difficult competition. Then he thought to mccamed Berkhamov, who I

473
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 3: think just lost to Lorenz Larkin and he gets finished,

474
00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 3: finished in the first round. Then he fights Sabajo Massi

475
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 3: and he gets finished in the first round. And he

476
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 3: has a big rally against Kyle Krutchmer, who's a really

477
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 3: good wrestler himself. So he's got a three and two

478
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,160
Speaker 3: Bellator record. He came to us from LFA. We knew

479
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 3: he was really good, good wrestler, takes his time, does

480
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 3: a rush into stuff, just hasn't quite rolled into that

481
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 3: surging contender. I think some of us had thought he might.

482
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 3: And he takes on former UFC Ocoulds, a UFC veteran. Anyway,

483
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 3: rustam Habilov, who sits at a record of twenty four

484
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 3: and four now, he's been very active on the UFC

485
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 3: side of things up until he simply was not. He

486
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 3: fought last in twenty nineteen and was supposed to fight

487
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 3: Koreshkov on a cancel bout in Bellator that didn't work,

488
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,439
Speaker 3: and so this is his first fight since twenty nineteen,

489
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 3: four years later, basically not quite three and a half.

490
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 3: He fights now Jalil Willis currently rustam Habilov sits at

491
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 3: thirty six years of age. The guy was thirty two

492
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 3: thirty three ish when he stopped. We all know the

493
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 3: drill with him. He can basically do a lot of

494
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 3: different stuff. He will probably choose to strike from the outside.

495
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 3: You might see him work offensive with takedowns, depending on

496
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 3: how Willis is willing to stuff them. He got a

497
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 3: little bit run over in some other areas in terms

498
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 3: of the defense of them and then submissions coming out

499
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 3: on the other end. But this is gonna be a

500
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 3: weird one. It's a question of like, what does Habilav

501
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 3: have left versus where is willis.

502
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: Really going here?

503
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 3: It's just kind of hard to tell with this one

504
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 3: in the I think one hundred and seventy pound way class.

505
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 3: So that's gonna be a really fun one and a

506
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 3: really interesting one as well. Sullivan Cowley, who's undefeated I

507
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 3: think trains out of Arizona with Ryan Vader and those

508
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 3: guys phenomenal ground of pounds on this car taking on

509
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 3: Luke trainer Adam Piccolotti, great black belt and a former

510
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 3: collegiate wrestler out of AKA or used to be the AKA.

511
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I think he's with CSA now.

512
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 3: Taking on Rat Garbage. Who's back, Mandel Nalo. That should

513
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 3: be a fun one. Pam Sorenson's on this card, but

514
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 3: the one I wanted to talk about, Folks, We're gonna

515
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 3: try and do this more often now. I'm gonna seef

516
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 3: I can bring it in here. Let's see if I can.

517
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 3: I believe I can. Yes, I can. So the one

518
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 3: I want to talk about was a much more interesting

519
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: name on this card. Actually, if you could, Mikey, just

520
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 3: put me up real quickly before we throw to the

521
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 3: picture here, I want to talk about Joey Davis. Have

522
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 3: you guys heard of Joey Davis? If you're a wrestling fan,

523
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 3: like real wrestling, you would know the answer to this question.

524
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 3: If you don't, I don't really know what there is

525
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 3: to say. He's now still just twenty nine years of age.

526
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 3: Goes by the nickname of Black Ice, which is a

527
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 3: fucking great nickname, by the way. Undefeated in MMA, currently

528
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 3: sitting at eight to zero, undefeated in collegiate wrestling, went

529
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty three, and oh he is a

530
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 3: four time national champion out of Division two. I believe

531
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 3: there were some other two national champions. I think two

532
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 3: other ones. Joey Davis is the only one that's undefeated.

533
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:53,719
Speaker 3: So he's the only undefeated Division two wrestling champion in history.

534
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 3: So there have been guys who have won four national titles.

535
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 3: There have been guys who won four national titles in

536
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 3: D one. There have been people who have done Division

537
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 3: one national title undefeated. That would of course be Cale Sanderson,

538
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 3: he has done the equivalent Division two. Now, there's a

539
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 3: lot of Europeans who might ask, what's the difference between

540
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 3: Division one and Division two, And the answer is it's

541
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 3: really not so clear. It's a clear in things like

542
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 3: American football. Right in American football, if you play for

543
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: an elite Division one program, so Alabama, Georgia, LSU, something

544
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 3: like that, right somewhere in there in that range, then

545
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 3: if you're the starting let's say, wide receiver for Alabama,

546
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 3: the chances that you're going to be better than the

547
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 3: starting wide receiver on some other team nearby that's in

548
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: a Division two program, the chances you're going to be

549
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 3: better are like extraordinarily high. It's not quite the same

550
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 3: in wrestling or the differences between Division one and Division

551
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 3: two and Division three aren't as pronounced. With some exception obviously,

552
00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 3: again if you go to Penn State, but you're asked

553
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 3: with the difference is it's a different set of opponents,

554
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: They have different recruiting dollars, the colleges they compete against, again,

555
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: relatively speaking, relatively speaking, somewhat softer or easier competition. The competition,

556
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 3: you know, there is some interaction by the way between

557
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 3: Division two and Division one throughout the course of the

558
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 3: four years, sometimes in separate tournaments unrelated to the actual

559
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 3: scholastic program. But the basic idea is that the schools

560
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 3: are sometimes smaller, the programs are smaller. The amount of

561
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 3: ad I should say, the amount of dollars per program

562
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 3: is a little bit smaller, and so in conjunction with that,

563
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 3: the opponents aren't quite as difficult, the titles are not

564
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 3: quite as meaningful. But I want to point out something.

565
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: You can get guys who, because of course George Simpi

566
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 3: are never wrestled.

567
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: At all and did quite well.

568
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 3: Also, you can get guys who wrestled division three or

569
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 3: Division two and they can beat division one guys. Hello

570
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 3: kamar Usban, a standout Division two wrestler. Look At what

571
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 3: he was able to do against Division one national guys.

572
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 3: So when we ask what's the difference between Division one

573
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 3: division two? The answer on paper is a little bit easier,

574
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 3: to tell you, the answer in real life is a

575
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 3: little bit harder. Could Joey Davis have competed really well

576
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 3: against Division one guys? There's not a doubt in my mind.

577
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 3: Would he have gone undefeated? Probably not, probably not. What

578
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 3: he won a national title. Also hard to say. Is

579
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 3: he of the caliber of elite Division one guys. I

580
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 3: would say that he is, yes, very much.

581
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 2: So.

582
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: He was recruited to.

583
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 3: Go play football Division one and he didn't want to.

584
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 3: He actually wanted to wrestle, and so he did that instead. Okay,

585
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 3: he has been off for three years, so actually two

586
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 3: and a half years. Inexplicable guys on paper and on tape.

587
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 3: He just looks like the genuine article in every way,

588
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: great wrestling background, just to kind of write athleticism for

589
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: the sport. Already has a lot of the folk style

590
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 3: tricks that translate over to MMA, which he uses for

591
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 3: ground and pound.

592
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: He uses all of it.

593
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 3: So with that in mind, Mikey, why don't we throw

594
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 3: this up here if we can, and let's take a

595
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 3: look at this preview I want to set up for you.

596
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 3: Here's Joey Davis. Now listen in MMA, in Bellatore, He's

597
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 3: fought guys by the name of Jeff Peterson, Chris sis Naros,

598
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: and Bobby League, names you're really not gonna be familiar with.

599
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: He's not beating elite competition, but he already has in

600
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 3: my mind, elite skills. Let's take a look at it.

601
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 3: I believe this is the Peterson fight. Yes, this one

602
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 3: ends very quickly. Let's sort of go here, what you're

603
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 3: gonna see? So this obviously, this is Joey Davis and

604
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 3: this is Peterson. Right, So Joey Davis nicknamed black Ice.

605
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 3: You can see it on his trunks here, which I

606
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 3: really like.

607
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: That's kind of cool.

608
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: Right, black eyes all right, neither here nor there, So

609
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 3: let's pay attention to this. So what you're gonna see

610
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 3: is Petter. Excuse me, Peter one more time. Peterson is

611
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: gonna pressure into Joey Davis, and Davis is gonna pull

612
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 3: him into a trap and then send him to the

613
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 3: land of winding ghosts. So here's Davis elle stepping. He's

614
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 3: gonna come around and watch my man. Here, just watch Peterson.

615
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 3: Watch how heavy he is on that front foot as

616
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 3: he threatens, right, very heavy.

617
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: He's gonna do it again. He's gonna step in and

618
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: then again.

619
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 3: He's lowering his level, moving and hard, and I think

620
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: Davis read that a mile away. So Davis, pay attention

621
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 3: to his head level. He's going to level change here

622
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 3: as he moves around. Watch there, he level changes gets us.

623
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 3: Let's see what kind of reaction he gets. He level

624
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: changes and as a consequence, you see here Peterson's almost square.

625
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: He's going to rotate the back leg and then move

626
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: into him. Davis reads it.

627
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: Look at Davis looks like he's waiting for the bus.

628
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 3: Doesn't give a shit what's about to happen, because he

629
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: knows he has an answer for it. So here he

630
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: has lowers his level. He sees from this Peterson lower

631
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 3: his level, changes footwork and begin to move into him.

632
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 3: So he just times the entry, brings his hands up.

633
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 3: It forces him to duck into that ka Balam's son

634
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: fires that one off, and of course he goes collapsing,

635
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 3: and then he finishes him off from here boom, and

636
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: then he just rolls away. That's referee. Look at old

637
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: Frank track boy. Frank and DC been on the same diet.

638
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 3: Can't even hate on him, though not much better. All right,

639
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: here we go watch this in real time. Look at

640
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: Davis's feet as he sees the guys. We'll just pay

641
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 3: attention to the footwork here of Pat Peterson for just

642
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: a second. Just watch as he steps forward with the

643
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: jab foot is off the ground. That's when he goes

644
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: let's see when it makes contact and he just cold.

645
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: I mean, just look at how perfectly timed this was

646
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 3: gets him to move into it. So Peterson is moving

647
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 3: into him, stepping down, Bang crushes him. One more angle

648
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: on this, you're gonna see just beautiful. Looks like Christian

649
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: Baleen sort of all right there he goes he steps

650
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: wide to block right.

651
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: So that's what he's doing.

652
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 3: He's stepping wide to sort of counteract this rotation from

653
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: Joey Davis. Joey Davis steps forward and lowers his level.

654
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: That changes him into this kind of posture. He goes forward,

655
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: Joey flashes the hands, he ducks cob Blam's son and

656
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 3: just annihilates him.

657
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: Walk.

658
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: Let's look out a little bit later, right, watch this.

659
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: His ground and pound is tremendous, very good ground and pound.

660
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 3: Why do I say that? So here we've got bicep

661
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 3: control on the right side. This is Christis Narrows. This

662
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 3: was back in twenty nineteen. So he's got bicep control

663
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 3: and that's the when he's putting all of his weight there.

664
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 3: So you would think, if you're Sis Narrows, you would

665
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 3: want to clear that, and he should. But the problem

666
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 3: is he's just pinned. This is not just him putting

667
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: put the screen on me for just a second, Mikey,

668
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: if you can. I want to make a point of something.

669
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: This is not him taking his hand and just putting

670
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 3: it on his bicep. This is him planting his hand

671
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 3: on his bicep and resting his weight on it.

672
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: Big, big difference, big big difference between that. Okay, show

673
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: it again. Here we go.

674
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 3: So he posts there and he's just kind of trying

675
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: to get a reaction here as you see, he bangs

676
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: on this side while holding it right and you can

677
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 3: see Sis Narrows is trying to make a call between

678
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 3: do I block or do I grab the wrist, and

679
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: so he's trying to fight it. He decides to grab

680
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: the wrist. Joey Davis is trying to peel. Eventually he

681
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: decides I'm gonna grab his wrist and then I'm just

682
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 3: gonna slash him son and you can see immediately immediately

683
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: it cuts him open right away.

684
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: Boom.

685
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: And here we are a little bit later in the fight.

686
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: Actually it's the same one a little bit later, and

687
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 3: then he takes it from this side right Cis Narrows

688
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: is pinned up against this fence here, so Davis, look

689
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: at Davis high hips, excuse me, pinning him into this position,

690
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 3: and then he just grabs the wrist right and then

691
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 3: he just pushes it down and then rolls the shoulder

692
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 3: and then torques everything into it when he goes. We'll

693
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: look a little bit later. They look at this, Look

694
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: at that cut kablamb cuts him right open immediately, just

695
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: does the damage, and he's gonna finish him off here

696
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: right here. Now watch, You're gonna see Sis Narrows try

697
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: to sit up. Davis is like, nah, fam, I'm gonna

698
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: have that one, pushes his weight all the way through,

699
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 3: grabs behind him, and then yanks the weight out one

700
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 3: more time and then now sits him much flatter, pinned

701
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 3: like this as opposed to sitting up. Sitting up would

702
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 3: be better for Cis Narrows. Joey Davis takes it away.

703
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 3: But I want you to pay attention to this a

704
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: little bit later. Right watch the fury with this. And

705
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: this is to me Shofcott rockmanov esque in the sense

706
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: that what you're seeing from some of the better ground

707
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 3: and pound guys is they do some groundwork where the

708
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 3: guy their opponents can make grips around them. We talked

709
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: about making grips with Leon Edwards. Here you have a

710
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: case where a lot of guys are now electing to

711
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: do ground and pound, where they exert less physical control

712
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: over their opponent, but their opponent is not really able

713
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 3: to make grips on them. That's the trade off, But

714
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 3: here it's not as much of a trade off because

715
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: the fence is helping to keep sis narrows kind of

716
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: pinned up against where he is. And just look at

717
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: this slashing shot knocking him over. Cis Naro's trying to

718
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: pull Joey Davis has two hands in there. He's gonna

719
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: move it around, doesn't matter. Look at I'm total control.

720
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 3: Steps back through in just a second, just like that,

721
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: steps through and passed, punches over and is just gonna.

722
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: Set this dude on fire. Bam.

723
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: He has nowhere to go, can't get up, his leg

724
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: is controlled, so he can't even plant it and turn,

725
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: so he's holding it and almost not quite shelfing it,

726
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: but carrying it in a shelf like way to prevent

727
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 3: future scrambling. And then just pounds on him and goes

728
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: after him there with that elbow, and then Eventually the

729
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: ref has seen enough. One more look on a different fight,

730
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 3: another one last one. Here he is, he's got a

731
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 3: guy who wrestled underneath him. He bridges right, and this

732
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: is the guy bridging, and then he shrimps. There comes

733
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: his hips back for the shrimp. And so now, if

734
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: you're Davis, you don't quite have the control that you want.

735
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 3: You don't have an underhook, and the guy is on

736
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: his side. You would need some kind of method to

737
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 3: either roll him back to his back, or you'd have

738
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 3: to have some other kind of control. He can't roll

739
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: him back to his back. And this guy's name is Lee.

740
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 3: He gets on an elbow. Well, this is what I

741
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: mean about Joey Davis already having good folk style. He

742
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: slides watch this hand, he's gonna slide it through and

743
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: grab like that. And then this is my favorite, he's

744
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 3: gonna yank it back and force the weight down like this.

745
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 3: Watch wa just shoves him down by using that grip

746
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: and pulling it out from underneath him. And then finally,

747
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 3: just watch this man torrential, torrential ground and pound on

748
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 3: this guy while he's got the he's got He's got

749
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 3: this kid's arm underneath here pinned behind him.

750
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: So what do you think he's gonna do?

751
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: Right, dude, look at the dread on my man's face,

752
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 3: just like, fuck this, Why did I sign up to.

753
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: Do this bullshit? I am no, thank you. So here

754
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 1: you go.

755
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 3: You're gonna watch black Ice pull it out. Here we go,

756
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: and he's just gonna set him on fire from here,

757
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: bang bang bang, And he's trapped here while his weight.

758
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 3: Look at look at the body of Davis. It's directly

759
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 3: on top of the upper body of Lee or what's

760
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: his name?

761
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 2: Lee?

762
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: Yes, right, he's just giving him that business, just trying

763
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: to find a way to get away.

764
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: Can't do it.

765
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 3: And look at Davis, calm the entire time, not breathing heavy,

766
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 3: not making rash decisions, making good decisions as this dude

767
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 3: on top just assassinates him over and over again. He's

768
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 3: able to make some control here and hold on and

769
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 3: he gets off after this position. But you get the

770
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 3: idea here actually a little more. Actually excuse me, he

771
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 3: fires Look at that bah. Can't get away. Man just

772
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: goes on and on and on, and then eventually he's

773
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 3: able to write and go flat on his back. That's

774
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: not a great position either. He wanted to be on

775
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 3: your shoulder. Most people will tell you being on your

776
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 3: shoulder better than almost anything, is better than flat on

777
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 3: your back almost anything. But the problem was the guy

778
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 3: tries to go to his side, Joey Davis makes him

779
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 3: pay for it, so he has to go flat to

780
00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 3: his back, and there you go.

781
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 1: That's it. That's that's the whole show, ladies and gentlemen.

782
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: He's still just aight and oh, you can take this off,

783
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: Mikey if you want. He's still just eight and O.

784
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: He's still just eight and O.

785
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: I don't know how far he can go. And honestly,

786
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: I'm not even really sure why he stopped competing. But

787
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 3: Joey Davis has like my attention in ways that most

788
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 3: guys don't. He just looks like he's ready to beat

789
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 3: really good guys right now. But at twenty nine years

790
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 3: of age, time is of the essence. We're gonna need

791
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 3: to really see him get in there.

792
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, with.

793
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: That in mind, let's go quickly if we can to

794
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 3: the PFL card PFT twenty twenty three.

795
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: Here we go, all right. I don't know what the

796
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: situation is with BC. They're working on it.

797
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 3: Okay, let's talk quickly if we can, about the PFL

798
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 3: card twenty twenty three PFL one preview in your in

799
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: your main event. I gotta tell you, man, I just

800
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: am not loving this main event from PFL. I'm happy

801
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: for Brendan Lockton. I'm very happy for Brendan lah. You'll

802
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: recall he's in the main event and he's taken on

803
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: Marlon Morish, Yes, that Marlon Moraish. In fact, where are

804
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 3: the odds on this one? I would love to see

805
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 3: how much of a favorite they've got. Uh yeah, they've

806
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: got him as a pretty substantial favorite. He's as high

807
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 3: as a minus you know, seven hundred and certain spots.

808
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: Brendan Locknan is I just don't like this fight. I

809
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 3: just don't like it. Brendan Locknan is really talented, came

810
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 3: off the Contender series. Dana White had that really ridiculous

811
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 3: opinion like, oh, he shot for a takedown, he doesn't

812
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: really want it, and you know, send him packing. He

813
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: goes to PFL. He wins all of his fights except

814
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 3: against Moulvelidhabbalaya, which we'll talk about just a second because

815
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 3: he's relevant again, and then beats Kudo, beats who's it

816
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 3: beats Who's Who's Kitch, beats Chris Waye, then beats Bubba Jenkins,

817
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: stops Bubba Jinkins in the fourth round, and then became

818
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 3: the champion.

819
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: This was like a really triumphant moment for him. It

820
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: was a big payday. This was great. I was really happy.

821
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: I'm really happy for Brendan Lockton, who seems like one

822
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 3: of the good guys in the sport. So I like

823
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 3: that part. And I don't hate Marlon Morish, obviously, we

824
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 3: don't want anything bad to happen to Marlon Mirisch. But

825
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 3: it's why we're like, why the fuck is he competing

826
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: Marlin Miraaje.

827
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: Let me just read you his okay pop quiz.

828
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 3: Last time he won to fight was what the Josealdo fight,

829
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 3: which was highly disputed, and back in twenty nineteen. Before that,

830
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: it was a sunsw That's the last like solid win

831
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 3: he's had. The sunsw win back in March excuse me, February,

832
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 3: I should say of twenty nineteen, so it's been really

833
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 3: four years since he's had a solid win. Since then,

834
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 3: he lost to Henry so Hudo, got stopped, beat Josealdo

835
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 3: in a highly controversial one, then loses to Corey Sanhagen

836
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 3: via stoppage, loses to Rob font via stoppage, loses to

837
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 3: Morob dawallash Belei via stoppage, loses to song Yadong via stoppage,

838
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: loses to Shaman Marius via stoppage, and the Shaman Maris.

839
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 3: One's kind of interesting because that one also happened in PFL. Also,

840
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: you might be saying, hey, wait a second, Luke, wasn't

841
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: Marlon mirais a one thirty five or yes, yes he was.

842
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: This fight's at one forty five, So now he's fighting

843
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 3: bigger punchers and bigger dudes like I. You know, it's

844
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 3: not like Brendan Locktin's. I mean, I would be shocked

845
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 3: if if he does anything other than win this fight. Now,

846
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 3: maybe he doesn't win via stoppage.

847
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: I don't know.

848
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what kind of game plan Marlin

849
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 3: has or if he can keep himself safe. And while

850
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 3: Brendan's very good, he's more of like an accumulative threat.

851
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: He's not like a one punch knockout guy. So I

852
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 3: could see a case where Marlin doesn't get like terribly hurt.

853
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 3: But you know, it's not really going to dramatically change

854
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: his fortunes. He's thirty four years of age, which again

855
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: we know is not young, but at a weight class

856
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 3: like one thirty five or in this case, one forty five,

857
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 3: it's just way too it's just way too little. I

858
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 3: hate this fight. If I could be honest with you,

859
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 3: I really don't like it. I really don't like the

860
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 3: PFL is continuing to use him. I think it's a

861
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: bad idea, and I think most fans again, it's not

862
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 3: like we wish poorly for Marlin, but when we say

863
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 3: we don't want to see him, it's not because we're like, oh,

864
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: I'm sick of him. It's not that it's that it's like, dude, man,

865
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 3: where are we going with this? Like this, this is

866
00:39:54,640 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: already in really bad frankly, concerning territory. How much worse

867
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: is it gonna get?

868
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: Probably a lot worse. It looks like probably a lot worse.

869
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 3: So there's really not a whole lot to say about

870
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 3: this one in the new PFL season.

871
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: I just really hate the main event.

872
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I like PFL, but I don't like the main

873
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 3: event really at all. Although I appreciate that, you know,

874
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 3: they're putting featherweights in there.

875
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: I think that's a good sign.

876
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 3: Okay in your Comaine is also a sort of an

877
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: interesting a pair of UFC cast offs, although in one

878
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: case one guy appears to be reborn, the other one

879
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: not so much. Rob Wilkinson also fresh off winning the

880
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 3: two zero five pound attorney from the last season of

881
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 3: bel Tour. He is back and he is reborn. In fact,

882
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 3: his last loss in MMA was to former UFC middleweight

883
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: champion All all the time, I think that was his UFC

884
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 3: debut Israel Adosonia, So that was all the way back

885
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen. He hasn't lost since, and of course

886
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 3: has been in some smaller organizations. Made his PFL debut

887
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, beat Bruce Suto, beat Victor Pesta,

888
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: also a UFC veteran, delon Monte, and then Omari Akmanov

889
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: who had moved up to two oh five, and he

890
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 3: beat him via doctor stoppage after two rounds. He looked good.

891
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 3: He's taken on Thiago Maheta Santos. Yes, that Tiago Santo's

892
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: pop quiz. How old is Thiago Santos?

893
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: He is.

894
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: Thirty nine years of age. Thirty nine years of age

895
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 3: and in fact when this bout takes place, he'll be

896
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 3: thirty nine years of age in two months, so he's

897
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 3: not that old in it yet, but he's close to

898
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 3: forty competing at two o five not great. His last

899
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 3: solid win to me, the Johnny Walker win, you would count,

900
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 3: but it was a weird performance. So the last like

901
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 3: really good one was to be the Yanblokhovich one, which

902
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 3: is all the way back in twenty nineteen, because after

903
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: that he fought John Jones, destroyed both of his knees

904
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: and to me has never been the same. Loses to Glover,

905
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 3: to Shera, loses to Alexander Rakitch, gets the win over

906
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 3: a weird Johnny Walker performance, loses to on Callive and

907
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 3: loses to Jamal Hill. But you might be saying, well, Luke,

908
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 3: that's fine Glover to share a former champ, Alexander Rakich

909
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: top contender could end up being champ. That's definitely on

910
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: the table. On Calive certainly right there, and then Jamal Hill, hello,

911
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 3: the champion. So it wasn't like he was losing to

912
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 3: really like, you know, bad guys.

913
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: He was losing to the better parts of what that

914
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: division has to offer.

915
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 3: In the ultimate fighting championship at this stage. Nevertheless, they

916
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: were not just not very inspiring performances, dangerous at times.

917
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: And Wilkinson is a come forward guy. So let me

918
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: see the odds on this one will be kind of

919
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 3: interesting to see. Yeah, this one's much closer. They've got

920
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 3: Wilkinson as a favorite in many places, but just barely.

921
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 3: I think to me that that feels right. It feels

922
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 3: right that Tiago Santo's shouldn't be favored given the age,

923
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: given the surge in Wilkinson and his willingness to really

924
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: by the way, he's kind of filled out in size too.

925
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 3: He's like a big two of Fiver at this point.

926
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: So to me, that all looks pretty good. But if

927
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: you're Wilkinson and you can't beat Tago Santos, yes, who

928
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 3: has a big name, but it is on kind of

929
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 3: this like pretty terrible and it seems unrelenting losing streak.

930
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: That would be bad coming off a championship win, right,

931
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 3: So I don't think he'll lose, but that could he

932
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 3: He does open himself to being hit in certain ways,

933
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 3: so something to pay attention to going forward with that

934
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 3: as well. Further on this card, let me see you

935
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 3: pull up the notes here. Sorry, okay, hold on one second.

936
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 3: Here we are, yes, further on that card down a

937
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 3: little bit here, Christophe Jocko ufc VET taken on Will Flurry.

938
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: This will be for the two one hundred and five

939
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: pound division. Here's the one that I'm most interested in.

940
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 3: First of all, you're going to get a Chris Wade

941
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 3: Buba Jenkins rematch. That's a big one. I like that

942
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 3: at one forty five. But the one I care most

943
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 3: about is this one. Mauvelid Habu Lajev taken on Ryoji Kudo. Okay,

944
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 3: why do I like this one? Muhammed?

945
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: Excuse me?

946
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: Mauvlid Habu Lajev is undefeated and as you can tell

947
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: by the name, where is he from Dakistan?

948
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: Thirty two, so he's not too old.

949
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 3: Has not fought, let's see, since twenty since October of

950
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, so it's been a little while since

951
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: he's been in there, about a year and a half

952
00:43:55,320 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 3: roughly give or take. And he is beyond a exciting

953
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 3: Why his win prior to this Saturday was Chris Wade right,

954
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 3: who was in a perennial season, not favorite, but a

955
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: guy who you expect to be either in the championship

956
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 3: fight or winning himself. Brendan Lockton, the champion, Lance Palmer,

957
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 3: multiple time previous champion. How about before that, he has

958
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 3: that remember that famous jumping knee that happened in ten

959
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 3: seconds where Hubble I've just comes surging out of the air.

960
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 3: That was Damon Jackson, the reborn fighter who's back in UFC.

961
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 3: He's beaten all those guys and he's back. He's back

962
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: against a very good, but I think overmatched opponent in

963
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 3: Ryoji Kudo Kudo. By the way, Curly is sitting at

964
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 3: twenty nine years of age, so he's not over the hill,

965
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,959
Speaker 3: but he is one and three in his last four,

966
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: losing in shooto to Kaska Sassu, losing to Brendan Lockton,

967
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 3: beat a guy by the name of all one hundred

968
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 3: floors with a good right hook, and then lost very

969
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 3: Nika Chuk in the first round to Bubba Jenkins. Hubblelaiev

970
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 3: should have his way with him. And in fact, if

971
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 3: you look at the eye which we will here where

972
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: they have him, oh yeah, huge favorite, huge favorite to win.

973
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 3: So just keep that in mind. That's the guy I

974
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 3: think you really really really want to pay attention to.

975
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: That's the guy. I think you gotta make it known

976
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: also on that card.

977
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: Anything else of note I'm trying to see here, anything

978
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 3: that would stand out be really fun. Yeah, there's some

979
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 3: okay ones here. By the way, Impu Kasanga and I

980
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: was winning. He won on the PFL Challenger series. So

981
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 3: that was the guy that got sent to the Land

982
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: of Winding Ghosts by Joaquin Buckley with the spinning kick

983
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: and everything.

984
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: He's back.

985
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 3: He's kind of really worked on his game. They'll be

986
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 3: taking on Corey Hendricks to open the card again, Martin Hamlett,

987
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 3: who was a good fighter. I think out of Norway.

988
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 3: They'll be taking on Lebanon's Mohammed fuck Reddin. I'm sure

989
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 3: I'm saying that wrong. Forgive me if I am. Also

990
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 3: the son of Conan and Silvera. Josh Slovera is on

991
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: this card as well, so that should be a fun one.

992
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: But we got him back.

993
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I don't have a lot of l

994
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 2: to stand down here after all these tech issues, but

995
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: I don't think fuck Grenadine is the how you pronounce

996
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: that guy's name. Just just me jumping back in like

997
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 2: nothing happened and calling you out. But you know, Luke

998
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: you carried us through that belletre preview in a one

999
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: man style and way because you had no other choice,

1000
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 2: And I thank you for that. All right.

1001
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 3: You have anything to add on what I said about

1002
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 3: about bullets, actually, yeah, about bullets, war or PF.

1003
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: I wasn't listening to any of it, Luke. I was

1004
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: just kind of blindly praising you. What I was really

1005
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: doing was swearing a lot as I figured out that.

1006
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 2: You know, if you buy a MacBook charging court at

1007
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 2: a at an airport, you know store where they sell

1008
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 2: candy bars, it's it may not work, Luke, it may

1009
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 2: not work for you.

1010
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: You know, you get what you paid for. And boy,

1011
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: CBS is Jeffs were burning money on you.

1012
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: I mean, well, I paid for that myself, so I

1013
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: guess that you know I left mine in the hotel

1014
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: room in Vegas, Luca happens, all right.

1015
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 3: I mean, seriously, any thoughts about this PFL card. The

1016
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 3: main event we see Brendan Lockdan taking on Marlon Reisch

1017
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: at one. I gotta tell you, I hate this main event.

1018
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 3: I like Brendan Lockman, I like Brendan Lockton, but I

1019
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 3: hate this main event.

1020
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: They call him Brendan Locknane on the broadcast, Luke, did.

1021
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: You know he had a UFC fight long say these names?

1022
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 2: I didn't know this when I was doing some Brendan

1023
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 2: Locknane research here, Luke. Do you know he had a

1024
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: UFC fight long before the uh the vaunted Dana White

1025
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: Contender series when he beat Bill Algo but wrestled too

1026
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: much and didn't get the contract. Did you know he

1027
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: had one UFC fight long before that?

1028
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: I didn't. I've never seen it.

1029
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy's only thirty three, Luke, but he

1030
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 2: fought in the UFC back in twenty twelve. Are you

1031
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 2: are you here with this? He lost by decision to

1032
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 2: Mike Wilkinson ad in in Gold Coast, Australia on the

1033
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 2: undercart of George Sotiopolis versus h Pearson. Which Pearson is

1034
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 2: that Lucas Ross Pearson? Ross Pearson? Yes? Yes, Ross Pearson

1035
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 2: once got rolling thundered on the on the on the

1036
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: junior levels. Don't forget that one.

1037
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 3: Time showed up to Marcello Garcias to train and George

1038
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 3: Sotropolis was taking lessons in there.

1039
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 2: I'm you know, people think I'm a Day one MMA

1040
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: fan because of my white belt takes. Luke, but I

1041
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 2: remember when George Sideropolis was the future of the lightweight

1042
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: division at one point, him and Evan Dunham. I mean

1043
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: I was there for that, Luke.

1044
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: All right, So it sounds like you have nothing to

1045
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: add to this PFL card.

1046
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, yeah, I want to see what my

1047
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: headset thirty nine can do here, Luke, New promotion, new league.

1048
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 2: It's not going to be easy taking on the defending champion,

1049
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: Rob Wilkinson. But can he Can he make a run

1050
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: to the finals here, Luke? Can he knock some people out?

1051
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 2: Can he do some things? We all have legitimate questions

1052
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 2: about him. It did fall apart pretty quickly due to

1053
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: age and injury, although he's always going to be in

1054
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: every fight with that threat. Are you expecting a reinvention here,

1055
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: Luke or just a fun name that will tune in

1056
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:45,479
Speaker 2: to watch?

1057
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 3: This is what I said before, when you were busy

1058
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 3: scrambling with your shit like a like a I mean,

1059
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 3: just a complete failed inventor back there trying to make

1060
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 3: things work. So if you look at the odds on

1061
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: this one, they're close. They're close, And the reason why

1062
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 3: is Dud Wilkinson is definitely like reborn in the best

1063
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 3: version of himself. But he's aggressive and leaves himself open,

1064
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like whatever you say about

1065
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 3: Thiago Santos saying thirty nine is old and plus two

1066
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 3: thirty nine with two reconstructed.

1067
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: Knees very old.

1068
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 3: But if you leave yourself of them with a big

1069
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: puncher like that, power is the last thing to go. Yeah,

1070
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 3: it could get you know, a full run to win

1071
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 3: the whole thing. B See, I'm a little skeptical of

1072
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 3: but making a move. You know, winning here certainly is

1073
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 3: on the table, I think so.

1074
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: Look, five losses and six fights to close his UFC run,

1075
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: but they are against super early competition, and outside of

1076
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 2: the Jamal Hill fight, he's not getting stopped at all. Luke,

1077
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: that was certainly eye opening when it did happen. But

1078
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm gonna give him a fighting chance here.

1079
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: He is a brand new hashtag girl dad Luke. Maybe

1080
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 2: that can read you know, does it light a new fire? Rundergain?

1081
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: I never lived that life? Does it.

1082
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: Not to beat people up?

1083
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 2: Okay? Well, look I will tell you this Brendan Locknane

1084
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 2: And by the way, I'm this undercard Chris Wade against

1085
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 2: Bubba Jenkins, who both came up empty in the playoffs

1086
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 2: against Locknane last year, should be a good scrap. But

1087
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: you think Locknane, I mean, look, we expect him to

1088
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 2: beat Marlon Reis. There's name value in this matchup. I

1089
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: get why you hate it without even hearing you talk

1090
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 2: about it. But is Brendan Locknane in route to kind

1091
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 2: of becoming one of the faces of this promotion?

1092
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: That's interesting?

1093
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1094
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe for the certainly as like as they make

1095
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 3: more moves into the UK, right they put Dan Hardy

1096
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: in like a leadership position there.

1097
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: They've got PFL Europe.

1098
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 3: I think obviously he's competing on their bigger cards, not

1099
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 3: the more junior ones, because he is the champion there.

1100
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 3: I think he could be a valuable player in that way.

1101
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 3: But I just don't like the pfl's long term fortunes.

1102
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 3: I just don't think they're moving in the right direction

1103
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 3: to get where they want to go.

1104
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I.

1105
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 2: Mean, what is he thirty three years old? He's putting

1106
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: it all together right now, is he?

1107
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1108
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,240
Speaker 3: I mean he is a deserving guy, no doubt about it,

1109
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 3: and he's really come a long way. I'm happy for

1110
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 3: his success and I'm happy that he got a million

1111
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 3: dollars last season and everything else, But you know, a

1112
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,959
Speaker 3: star for the organization, with the organization itself isn't really

1113
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 3: is PFL capable of creating a star. I don't know

1114
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 3: the answer to that. I'm kind of skeptical that it

1115
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 3: is actually.

1116
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: Also, yeah, maybe Larisa Pacheco will be that star this year.

1117
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 3: Luke Babe could be, could be. All right, See, let's

1118
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 3: talk about the thing that back right on time. Let's

1119
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 3: talk about the weekend boxing previews. So guess who's back?

1120
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 3: How about Anthony Joshua. Anthony Joshua is back this weekend

1121
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 3: on to his own He'll be taking on a gentleman

1122
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 3: by the name of Jermaine Franklin BC. I have to

1123
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 3: tell you, Anthony Joshua, I think thirty three years of age,

1124
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 3: there's a lot of folks who are wondering, like, what's

1125
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 3: left for him? And I said this after the second

1126
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,959
Speaker 3: loss to Usik. He made that bizarre speech and everyone

1127
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 3: kind of killed him for it. But my view on

1128
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 3: it the whole time was it clearly hurt him. He

1129
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 3: couldn't win that title. It clearly hurt he really, really

1130
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 3: really wanted to be a champion.

1131
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: It matters to him.

1132
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 3: So this time BC, he didn't just bring in someone

1133
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 3: else in his camp like he did the last one.

1134
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 3: He moved his camp to the United States, trading with

1135
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 3: Derek James, this time in Texas. Just doing that now, BC,

1136
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 3: he can't become a different fighter than he was at

1137
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 3: thirty three years of age. But here's my question to you,

1138
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 3: what can Dereck James at this stage in Anthony Joshua's

1139
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 3: career do for him? And what are you expecting here

1140
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 3: against Jermaine Franklin.

1141
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 2: All Right, potentially, potentially he can do a lot. But

1142
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: one thing I think we have to realize that played

1143
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: into that AJ meltdown following the second Usik fight was

1144
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: I personally believe that was Anthony Joshua who fought well

1145
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: in the first meeting ends Usick lost a clear decision,

1146
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: had us wondering, look, man, if you you know, if

1147
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 2: you bite down and become the destroyer against stuff trying

1148
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: to outbox a boxing wizard, get inside, pressure him, and

1149
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 2: you rely on your strengths, that could be a different fight.

1150
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 2: My take on that second fight is that AJ did

1151
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 2: hire a new trainer in Robert Garcia, and whether or

1152
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 2: not that was ever destined for true success. I think

1153
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 2: it comes down to Anthony Joshua. I think the fuel

1154
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 2: for his meltdown after that second fight was because in

1155
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: his mind, he did everything he could have done to

1156
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 2: do things his own way, meaning go back to the

1157
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 2: drawing board after a close loss, bring in a new trainer,

1158
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 2: but do things the AJ way. And when that didn't work,

1159
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: when it still wasn't enough, I think you saw the

1160
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 2: real frustration spell out. I mean, he's known as a

1161
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: sort of humble gentleman, and how he carries himself that

1162
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 2: was very you know, the opposite direction of how he

1163
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 2: commandeered the moment was kind of praising Usik, but not really.

1164
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: You know, at one point had had the Ukrainian flag

1165
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 2: over his shoulder. Usik had to rip it off. If

1166
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 2: this new camp with Derek James, and obviously you couldn't

1167
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: pick a better trainer at the right moment in terms

1168
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 2: of red Hawk coming off a Trainer of the Year

1169
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: campaign in a close race, by the way with Bob

1170
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 2: Santo's that if this is AJ now going okay, I

1171
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 2: did it my way, no stones left unturned, and it

1172
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: still wasn't enough. If this is a humbling enough moment

1173
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 2: where he's going to Derek James and saying, I need

1174
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: you to fill in the blanks. I need you to

1175
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: take what I already do, you know, polish it up,

1176
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 2: make some adjustments here, make some adjustments there. I think

1177
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 2: he actually could be just fine and could be on

1178
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: his way right back into this title picture. And you know,

1179
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 2: in a threat to do that, why Luke, because a

1180
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 2: lot of it is already there in normal You know,

1181
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 2: Anthony Joshua works hard, He's a finisher with both hands.

1182
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: He can box enough against the guys not named Usiker

1183
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 2: in theory Tyson Fury that a lot of times he

1184
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 2: can lean on that boxing in the threat of his

1185
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 2: power to win. It just so happened in two fights

1186
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: with Usak Luke. I don't think he put his best

1187
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 2: strategic foot forward. I don't think there was enough of

1188
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: a buy in and a focus on roughing up the

1189
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: smaller fighter, leaning on him going inside, going to the

1190
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: b It's not so much for me about Derek James

1191
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 2: as it is about Anthony Joshua. If AJ is where

1192
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: he needs to be mentally, if he can go back

1193
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 2: into student mode, if he can humble himself enough, to

1194
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 2: welcome everything that James can bring for him. Not only

1195
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: do I like this matchup for him and giving him

1196
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 2: a chance to work on that stuff in the moment,

1197
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: But we know Derek James. He's never had a heavyweight before,

1198
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 2: but he has three super elite clients in Jamel, Charli,

1199
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 2: Erolspence and Frank Martin. How could he not add what's

1200
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 2: going on there? I watched the press conference, I watched

1201
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 2: the interviews. Look, AJ kind of sounds like AJ always does,

1202
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 2: saying the right things humble. But if Luke, this is

1203
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: an AJ going, I did it my way to the

1204
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 2: limit of what was possible. Now I need not only

1205
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: new help to get over this hump of these super

1206
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 2: super elite heavyweights. I need to buy in. This is

1207
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 2: BC's two cent take. I think we could see a

1208
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 2: very much improved AJ Luke because all the tools are there.

1209
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 2: Is he ever gonna out box thr Or, who was

1210
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 2: like no, no, There's not many other guys in that

1211
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 2: category though, outside of Fury Or who's sick. So this

1212
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: really could be. If we're gonna see AJ attacking the body,

1213
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 2: if we're gonna see him being smarter in how he

1214
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 2: sets up his approach. This could be the right perfect

1215
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 2: showcase to get us all excited about him again. But

1216
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: what I like about the matchmaking is let's put some

1217
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: respect on Jermaine Franklin's name. This also could be a

1218
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 2: trap fight if he's not there, Luke, So I kind

1219
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 2: of like all the stakes in the odds in the

1220
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: matchup here as we head into Saturday, because AJ deserves

1221
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 2: a step down in competition, but he does have some

1222
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 2: work to figure out. What is your confidence level on

1223
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: the potential of AJ coming back, you know, even potentially

1224
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 2: better than before?

1225
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: Hi? Hi?

1226
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 3: I mean when you say better than before, it's like

1227
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 3: it's hard to know how much better? Is there anyone

1228
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 3: in your mind? BC with Derek James? Where how do

1229
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 3: I ask this? Has he had in your mind? I

1230
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 3: know you mentioned the three elege clients were all familiar

1231
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 3: with the unified champ on disputed champ I should say

1232
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 3: in Charlow and then obviously Spence everyone knows and Frank

1233
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 3: Martin we recently announced himself.

1234
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: But has he ever had like a reformation.

1235
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 3: Project where he took a guy who was good but

1236
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 3: not great and then turn him into something much better

1237
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 3: than he was. Is there anything in that in his past.

1238
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: I mean I realized that that's not exactly what Derek

1239
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 3: James trying to do here. Like Anthony Joshua still very good,

1240
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 3: but he wouldn't be working with Derek James if he

1241
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 3: wasn't trying to change something. How capable is Derek James

1242
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 3: of it? You know, it's one thing to be like, oh,

1243
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 3: I coached these really good guys. I'm not saying he's

1244
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 3: not helped partly responsible for this success, but those are

1245
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 3: you know, those are guys who are at the top

1246
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 3: of their game. Joshua found the top of the game

1247
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 3: and found himself wanting what can Dereck James do or

1248
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 3: has done in the past that gives you confidence he

1249
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 3: can lift him?

1250
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 2: Well, Derek James is a sort of an interesting character

1251
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 2: and that he You know, if you want to make

1252
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: an m and make comparison, maybe it's a Trevor Whitman,

1253
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: a guy who doesn't just take Look a lot of guys,

1254
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 2: they're they're known, they become very famous for the su

1255
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 2: sex they have as a trainer, and then suddenly it's

1256
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 2: open season on their gym and they're filling up the

1257
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 2: gym like crazy. We saw Freddie Roach go through that.

1258
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: We even saw Eddie Reinoso go through that recently. Remember

1259
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 2: when Andrew Ruiz came in and out the you know Valde.

1260
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of these guys coming in out

1261
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: Luis Snari and then going you know what, it's not

1262
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: for me A lot of times you see the complaints.

1263
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 2: Why did Ryan Garcia leave Eddie Renoso's Jimmes because he

1264
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 2: didn't feel like he was getting the one on one attention.

1265
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 2: Part of Derek James's strength is like Trevor Whitman, he

1266
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: focused exclusively on elite clients that he believes that he

1267
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 2: can take to the top. Does he have specific heavyweight experience, No,

1268
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: does he have specific elite level reformation project assistant you

1269
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 2: know experience, Not necessarily, although he did take on Jamel

1270
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 2: Charlow after Charlo then under Ronnie Shields had made a

1271
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 2: name for himself and I think made him even better.

1272
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 2: So Luke, I think it comes down to the student

1273
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 2: at the end of the day. That's why this is

1274
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 2: such an intriguing return for AJ. Given the climate right now,

1275
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 2: A Fury and Usik are not going to fight each other,

1276
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: could AJ get and by the way, if they don't

1277
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 2: fight each other. Daniel Dubois has the next shot uh

1278
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 2: contractually at USIK for all three titles, But where does

1279
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: aj fit into that mix? Right at the top if

1280
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 2: he comes back with a bang. So, look, I do

1281
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 2: like this matchup because Jermaine Franklin fought really well against

1282
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 2: Dillion White, and Franklin does not from Saginaw, Michigan a

1283
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 2: little poortly around the waist, but he did not have

1284
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 2: the experience to give me the belief he was gonna

1285
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 2: have the performance against Dillion White that he did last year.

1286
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: He had beaten guys like a Jerry Forest who's somewhat

1287
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 2: of a low level heavyweight name, but did it by

1288
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: split decision. Hadn't wowed us. How did Jermaine Franklin wow

1289
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 2: us against Dillion White? It was by being tough. It

1290
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: was by standing there and taking you know, outside of

1291
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: the last twenty seconds of round twelve, where Franklin looked

1292
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 2: hurt and he actually looked like he was ready to

1293
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 2: go if there was another ten seconds, he stood in

1294
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 2: there and was very durable. He had smart counter shots.

1295
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 2: He could put combinations together when White would get a

1296
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 2: little bit exhausted after throwing a bunch and need to

1297
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 2: wait a little bit. This is kind of that perfect

1298
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 2: test for Anthony Joshua in a sense because Franklin, you know,

1299
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 2: always got decent handspeed. He's accurate puncher, not gonna blow

1300
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 2: your doors in, not a monster knockout threat, not gonna

1301
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 2: you know, run a track meet and outwork you. But

1302
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 2: if you're not where you need to be, he can

1303
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 2: keep a fight close. He proved that against White. A

1304
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 2: lot of people thought he'd beat w by the way,

1305
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm glad that he gets this reward.

1306
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 2: But it comes down to AJ and if AJ bise it.

1307
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 2: I mean, look, when you look back at the rematch

1308
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 2: with Usik, did he make adjustments? Yes? Do we expect

1309
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: AJ to be closer in the second fight? I think

1310
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 2: on the scorecards he was, But I didn't see him

1311
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: bite down on what it could could have potentially been

1312
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 2: the right game plan to disrupt a guy like Usick,

1313
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 2: still falling around, still trying to play chess with the

1314
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 2: chess master. It's up to Aj up here to know

1315
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 2: that situation by situation, matchup by matchup, you do need

1316
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 2: to be different, you do need to play roles. Sometimes

1317
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 2: you're knocking out box Usik on that level right against Franklin.

1318
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: Different kind of matchup, not gonna matter, but I want

1319
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 2: to see can he carry out this game plan? Can

1320
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 2: he avoid getting touched up? Can he come out there

1321
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 2: and lean on his strengths and land the big power shots?

1322
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: Because when AJ gets you hurt, he typically gets you

1323
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 2: the hell out of there. That's the kind of stuff

1324
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 2: I want to see. If he goes in there and

1325
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 2: knocks out your main Franklin, we're gonna have a different

1326
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 2: kind of conversation about what this heavyweight top end picture

1327
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 2: is gonna look like to close the year. I think

1328
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 2: boxing he needs a and I think AJ needs this

1329
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 2: fresh change, but he needs to buy in on it completely. Like, look,

1330
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 2: I don't if you asked me straight up. There was

1331
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 2: the Robert Garcia experiment, you know, was it ever destined

1332
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: to win? Could it have won? Did Robert Garcia fail?

1333
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 2: It's hard to tell. Man, one fight a fight that big.

1334
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: It just I think AJ has to want it to work.

1335
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 2: That's my American take on this.

1336
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 3: Okay, so he stayed in London for that one, like

1337
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 3: he kind of did. I'm not saying the same things

1338
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 3: he did before because my definition he didn't. But it

1339
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 3: seemed like he realized, Okay, if I'm going to get

1340
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 3: the most out of changing trainers, I got to do that.

1341
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 3: I'm going to go train with them in their place.

1342
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 3: I'm going to get the fuck out of London. Just

1343
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 3: switch it up, do everything I need to do. And

1344
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 3: I think obviously he can get great training in London.

1345
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 3: But if you're looking for a switch, if you're looking

1346
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 3: for a change, getting out of that probably will be

1347
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 3: good for you. I'm expecting a good aj I'm expecting

1348
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 3: a very good Ajen. When we see him again, how

1349
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 3: good I guess we'll find out, but I'm excited about it.

1350
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what else is on that card BC

1351
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 3: of interest. There's also the card on ESPN plug between

1352
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 3: rob Ci Ramirez and Isaac Dogbow.

1353
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: Do we care about this?

1354
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? We do. We do about it. So Isaac Dogbay

1355
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 2: a former one hundred and twenty two pound champion, Yeah,

1356
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 2: dog Bay. What happened to him is he ran into

1357
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Navarette in that division two times in a row,

1358
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 2: lost it, and then controversially went right back for a rematch.

1359
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 2: I think that the issue for dog Bay at times

1360
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: was was the relationship with his dad as trainer and

1361
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 2: I think he's, if I'm correct, amended that and brought

1362
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 2: in another voice in the corner. He's rebranded himself, reinvented himself,

1363
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 2: and there's certainly still time for a guy from Ghana

1364
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 2: who's so aggressive, can box a little bit, but loves

1365
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 2: to get in there and punch robes c Ramerez. Luke

1366
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 2: is that is that guy with the great amateur background

1367
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 2: and has made a lot of noise of late. This

1368
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 2: is a pretty damn good matchup. I mean, you got

1369
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: to give ESPN a top rank that that respect. Even

1370
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 2: when the names maybe don't always wow you, matchmaking wise,

1371
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 2: it seems to be pretty right up. But twenty nine

1372
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 2: year old Southpaw is the Cuban borne Robac Romerez. Is

1373
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 2: he the guy that lost? Yeah, Luke, he lost his

1374
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 2: pro debut. Do you remember that? I was back in

1375
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen he lost a split decision in a four

1376
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 2: round fight and it looked to be like, oh crap,

1377
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 2: is this guy a bus? Is he not going to

1378
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 2: live out that way? I mean it was almost Aaron

1379
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 2: Peakle like in that regard to come in with a

1380
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 2: lot of fanfare and lose your debut. But he has

1381
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 2: run off all victory since then, and he's starting to

1382
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 2: stop people too. Along with that, you know, a good

1383
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 2: savvy Cuban amateur background. Here's a beast fight on Saturday.

1384
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 2: I believe it's taken place in the featherweight division. Yes,

1385
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 2: the vacant WBO featherweight title will be at stake, so

1386
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 2: definitely something to watch out for. I know I didn't

1387
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 2: properly set the stage for Lawrence Oakley's cruiserweight title defense

1388
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 2: last week, Luca. There was a lot going on that

1389
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 2: week and it fell out of my radar. But you

1390
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 2: know I'll be on this one.

1391
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 1: All right.

1392
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 3: Fair enough, let's talk about the last major topic here,

1393
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 3: Game bread Boxing four. I'm not really sure what to

1394
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 3: say about this one in terms of x's and O'SBC,

1395
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 3: It's not really so clear, So let's just sort of

1396
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 3: set the table here for everyone who may not know.

1397
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 3: This is Game bread Boxing four, but have been three

1398
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 3: per previous ones. Jones Junior versus Pettis. This will be

1399
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 3: at the five Serve form. I believe this is where

1400
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 3: the Bucks play in Milwaukee, if I'm not mistaken. It's

1401
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 3: going to air on fight Pass for those who are

1402
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 3: interested on Saturday, seven pm start time for the main card.

1403
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: I believe BC, in your main event it's in.

1404
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 3: Eight round, three minute rounds obviously boxing contest. I believe

1405
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 3: it's a pro fight between Roy Jones Junior and Anthony Pettis.

1406
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 3: What the hell are we supposed to say about this

1407
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 3: in terms of x's and O'SBC.

1408
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I think in this main event we

1409
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 2: have to really hope it's not gross. We have to

1410
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 2: really hope in either direction to be fair.

1411
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: But look, Roy Johns, we know Roy well, I'm just

1412
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: saying we know Roy is. He's I mean, he's washed.

1413
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:40,919
Speaker 1: I mean, Roy is one of the great of our era.

1414
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 3: I mean, we're a delight to see him, but at

1415
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 3: this stage he's very old, dude. Anthony Pettis is shop

1416
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 3: one too.

1417
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: Man.

1418
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 2: Look, Roy's been old for a while. Roy's been old

1419
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: for like, you know, fifteen years of staying active when

1420
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 2: he shouldn't have been. Against He's fifty four, very varying

1421
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 2: levels of competition that got lower and lower by the

1422
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 2: end of it. He lost cleanly that exhibition against Mike Tyson.

1423
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 2: But but you know, got in great shape and came

1424
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 2: in game and all that. You know, I don't want

1425
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 2: to see him get hurt. I don't want to see

1426
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 2: Roy to have such a boxing advantage here that Anthony

1427
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 2: Pettish gets hurt. To be honest, look, I get why

1428
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,959
Speaker 2: they booked this fight because they want this pivot into

1429
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 2: boxing for game Bred and Jorge Masvidal too really bang.

1430
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 2: But I think the fights that they have below that

1431
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 2: are the ones that I think are more interesting, especially

1432
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 2: the MMA fans, but especially the idea. Could this business

1433
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 2: model work. You're not bringing in YouTubers, but you're not

1434
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 2: at the same time putting on, you know, real boxing,

1435
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 2: having MMA veterans fight at one another and in some

1436
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 2: cases here getting rematches of actual MMA fights. I don't

1437
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 2: think that's a horrible way. In fact, again, if I'm

1438
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 2: zoofa boxing this is probably the stuff I should be

1439
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 2: putting on at the end of the day. I don't

1440
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 2: hate it. I don't hate Vitor Belford against Jockeray if

1441
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 2: they both feel like they can get another payday and

1442
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 2: want to be in there against each other. I don't

1443
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 2: hate Josie although and Stevens in a rematch Jeremy Stevens.

1444
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 2: I don't hate, you know, pro Gonzalas against Gina Even

1445
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 2: if I missed you know. I called her, Luke, the

1446
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 2: person that got punched out by Chris Cyborg and the

1447
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 2: parking lot of that UFC. Remember they had that like

1448
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 2: big summit meeting with all the fighters and I was

1449
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 2: wrong there, Luke. It wasn't Gina Mazzani. Who was it?

1450
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 2: Remember the Cyborg like heard the talk trash?

1451
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 3: Oh it was what's her? I forget her first name,

1452
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 3: but her last name was Magania?

1453
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Angela who she She.

1454
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: Went after me for a while on Twitter. I forget

1455
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: what it was.

1456
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 3: Either I either blocked her or something, and then she

1457
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 3: just kind of fizzled out into whatever the fuck she's

1458
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 3: doing with her life these days.

1459
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask it back at you. Pettis versus

1460
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 2: Roy is weird. There's a way it doesn't suck or

1461
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 2: make you cringe. It's largely weird, but it gets people

1462
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 2: in the building. Do you think there's an appetite in

1463
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 2: the combat sports world for washed up MMA guys boxing

1464
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 2: each other, not not YouTubers, not real boxers each other, Luke.

1465
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 3: I don't want to say no in that there is

1466
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 3: absolutely no way to do it, but I'm gonna say no,

1467
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 3: and that we haven't really figured out how to do it.

1468
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 3: In other words, I get the idea that some folks

1469
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 3: are gonna want to see these people like all in

1470
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 3: the same card, because hey, like all these stars together,

1471
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 3: like jockarais on the card, and Vtur's on the card,

1472
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 3: and Roy Jones Junior and Petest. These are names that

1473
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 3: current MMA fans and you know, combat sports fans in general,

1474
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 3: have a great degree of awareness with, especially with Roy

1475
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 3: Jones Junior. But like, at the end of the day,

1476
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 3: if you're an MMA fan, are you gonna pay consistently

1477
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 3: a lot of are Are you gonna pay consistently money

1478
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 3: or even time? Like attention dollars so to speak. You

1479
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 3: only get twenty four, you know, hours in a day.

1480
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 3: Are you really gonna spend that time watching MMA fighters

1481
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 3: over the hill box each other? You know, dude, MMA

1482
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 3: fans are where we've been working and massaging our audience

1483
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 3: for a long time. There is something of a crossover

1484
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 3: between MMA and boxing, but it's not nearly as a

1485
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 3: lot of folks might imagine, and it takes time.

1486
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: They have to really work on the audience.

1487
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 3: Like it's not so easy, and there's a lot of

1488
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 3: MMA fans who just don't like boxing I'm skeptical. I'm skeptical.

1489
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 3: I'm not saying no. And by the way, I'm not

1490
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 3: even like hating on this event. Like, if the event

1491
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 3: goes forward and people like it now the main event

1492
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 3: itself with Roy being fifty four, I don't love but whatever,

1493
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 3: you know, this idea that they have, If this actually works,

1494
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 3: then I'm not really mad at it. I'm like, this

1495
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 3: would be a great thing for fighters to have, and

1496
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 3: if people like it, fine, But what I'm just skeptical

1497
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 3: of is that will there be enough fan preference to

1498
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 3: make this profitable over the long term.

1499
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: No, I don't think that it would be.

1500
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 2: I think it depends on the product. It's in some

1501
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 2: way the same things that we had said about the

1502
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 2: original launch of the Celebrity Bubble when the Paul brothers

1503
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 2: were taking you know, into when they were coming in,

1504
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 2: I always said, look, you make really exciting fights where

1505
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 2: you're not sure who's gonna win, whether they're sloppy or not.

1506
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 2: I think that's ultimately the hook on these sort of

1507
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 2: fringe boxing ideas. And just a correct couple of things.

1508
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 2: I know you said it could air on the UFC

1509
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 2: Fight Pass. I'm seeing Fight TV and I'm seeing a

1510
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 2: fifty dollars paper review charge for this card.

1511
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 3: Let me double check while you say, let me say,

1512
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 3: let me double check, while you say, look at that up.

1513
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 2: One other change, Luke originally schedule was Paul Semtech's Daily

1514
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 2: against Anthony Taylor, who we have seen a few times now.

1515
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 2: I remember he was the one who punched Dylan Danis

1516
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 2: in the parking lot and he's been on some Jake

1517
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 2: Paul cards Daily pulled out, Joe Riggs will replace him

1518
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,839
Speaker 2: against Anthony Taylor. Jesus, yeah that happened.

1519
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: So, by the way, this says you can get it

1520
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 1: on fight Pass for sure.

1521
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's the upgrade chance there

1522
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 2: of the pay per view, but this is a pay

1523
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 2: per view fight. I mean, I think that's the only

1524
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 2: way you're bringing in Roy Jones.

1525
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: Oh you still okay? So okay, Yes, you can watch

1526
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: it on fight Pass.

1527
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 3: Even on fight Pass you have to pay forty nine

1528
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,600
Speaker 3: to ninety nine for it, So yeah, there you go.

1529
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you got a lot of names, dude, you

1530
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 2: got There's there's worse ways to spend your time in

1531
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 2: the combat sports world. There's a lot of grossness at

1532
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 2: the bottom of the food chain. This is in the

1533
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 2: direction of that, Luke, But I do want to give

1534
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 2: it a chance to not completely make me gag. What

1535
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 2: if Pettison Roy have this. I mean, the thing is,

1536
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 2: I don't want to see Roy again. I don't want

1537
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 2: to see guys in their fifties, are their late thirties

1538
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 2: and early forties x MMA fighters who could either be

1539
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 2: over there and BKFC or could be at the Lava

1540
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 2: Shack fight and the Governor and they can do this

1541
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 2: instead and maybe get a payday. Is it healthy for them? No?

1542
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 2: Is it better than some of the other really weird

1543
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 2: bottom of the food combat chain. Yeah, it is a

1544
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: little bit better than that in my opinion.

1545
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes.

1546
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 3: And also remember the length of the rounds and then

1547
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 3: the fight themselves. You know, were only eight rounds with Roy.

1548
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 3: A lot of these other fights are like six rounds,

1549
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,799
Speaker 3: four rounds, you know, it's not like a lengthy amount

1550
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 3: of time. But at the same time, yeah, listen, here's

1551
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 3: what I'll say. If people watch it and they have

1552
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 3: a good time, cool, If it ends up making good

1553
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 3: money and they can do more of this, no problem

1554
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 3: with it. I'm just skeptical the fans will embrace it,

1555
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 3: but we shall see.

1556
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:48,440
Speaker 1: We shall see.

1557
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 2: One thing I wanted to bring up, Luke, because there's

1558
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 2: this fellow named pro Mma Weeb who tweeted at us

1559
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 2: before the show. He said, you'll probably not cover it,

1560
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 2: but I wanted to know about Takeru Takiu. He just

1561
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 2: signed an exclude guaranteed minimum seven hundred and fifty thousand

1562
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 2: per fight, making him the highest kickboxer of all time,

1563
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 2: highest paid kickboxer. Yeah, you care about that at all

1564
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 2: because this guy pro Mma we wants your opinion on it.

1565
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 3: I we've talked about on this show before. If there

1566
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 3: is you know, listen, BC and I have extensive CTE.

1567
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 3: Let's just be very real about that. Like we our

1568
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 3: brains don't work right, but one of the bigger get

1569
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 3: like there are things I know more about in the

1570
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 3: fight game than BC, and conversely, like he knows more

1571
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 3: about certain things than I do, and then together we're

1572
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 3: able to make that work. B See, I'd say if

1573
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 3: both of us have a blind spot, it's on the

1574
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 3: kickboxing side of things. We just don't pay a lot

1575
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 3: of attention to it. And not because I have anything

1576
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 3: against it just is a strictly a time management issue.

1577
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: I only have so many hours in the.

1578
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 3: Day, so I have seen the kickboxing folks on my

1579
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 3: timeline get very excited about it. But I'd be speaking

1580
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 3: very much out of turn if I try to give

1581
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 3: you any kind of.

1582
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I think the fans at the end

1583
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 2: of the day, they appreciate when you're real, Luke, when

1584
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 2: you bring it in good faith, and you just did.

1585
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: All right, So all you taku super fans out there

1586
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 2: not getting that from us, it's.

1587
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 3: Not it's not an irrelevant piece of news. It's just

1588
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 3: not one that we have a great grasp on. That's

1589
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:07,879
Speaker 3: the only thing I'd say.

1590
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a bompressed but like female bare knuckle fights.

1591
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 2: To be very fair with you.

1592
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: Yeah that's more you.

1593
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 3: That's not even me either. That's just a you thing.

1594
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 3: Even I don't know shit about that, you know. So

1595
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 3: all right with that in mind, let's play a little

1596
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 3: game before we get to fan subs BC. Now that

1597
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 3: we got you back on, we'll just get right to it.

1598
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 3: Time for over under in this bitch.

1599
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 1: Look at that, all right.

1600
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 2: B C.

1601
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 3: We've got let's see one, two, three, four, five, six,

1602
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 3: We got seven of these.

1603
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 2: So this is you asking me the questions. I have

1604
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 2: not read these in Evans.

1605
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: That's right.

1606
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 3: So BC normally does this, but he was being super

1607
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,560
Speaker 3: lazy yesterday and punted, so I had to pick it

1608
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 3: up from him. So we're gonna reverse the roles here

1609
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 3: a little bit.

1610
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 1: You see that little dig I took.

1611
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I mean you want to you want to

1612
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 2: show receipts, Luke, I'm here for it, all right.

1613
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1614
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 3: You were like, You're like, I gotta be my wife's

1615
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 3: slave today. I ain't doing shit for you bitches.

1616
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 2: And I was like, was my first day off for

1617
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 2: a long time.

1618
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: But you know, I know, I'm teasing. I'm teasing, all right, PC.

1619
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: Something we didn't really get into.

1620
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 3: So let's get into a real quickly here with the

1621
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 3: start over under before we get to the first question here,

1622
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 3: it's about Cowboy Seroni.

1623
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: We didn't talk about this.

1624
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 3: He got into the Hall of Fame. Your thoughts on

1625
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 3: Cowboy Seroni quickly entering the Hall of fame?

1626
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 2: Look, what is Cowboy Seroni as being one of the

1627
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:23,600
Speaker 2: rare fighters who never won full undisputed UFC gold? But

1628
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 2: that should, in my opinion, not disqualify you from big accolades.

1629
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 2: Being considered a legend. I mean, look at what Dustin

1630
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 2: Pourier has done despite having at one point been the

1631
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 2: interim champion. It's rare to have a resume this good

1632
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 2: to be at this point. And then you add in

1633
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,839
Speaker 2: with Cowboy being such a fan favorite, being a character,

1634
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 2: an icon, and being a guy who carried that old,

1635
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 2: old old school anytime anywhere against anyone mentality. I'm not

1636
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 2: against him going into the UFC's Hall of Fame at

1637
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 2: any point. I just I guess Luke larger I don't

1638
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 2: understand both the UFC's criteria. I know, well, technically the

1639
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 2: criteria for this is the modern wing, which Cowboy gets in,

1640
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 2: which means you had to have your first fight what

1641
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 2: after the year two thousand and you had to have

1642
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 2: been retired for more than a year, and you have

1643
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 2: to be at least thirty five to get in. So

1644
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 2: Cowboy fits all of those. But Luke, is he a

1645
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 2: first ballot Hall of Famer even under the UFC standards?

1646
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I would say no. I think he's

1647
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,560
Speaker 2: a guy that should get in anyway because of the

1648
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 2: accumulation of who he fought in some ways who he be,

1649
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 2: but also the overall character and willingness, But like when

1650
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 2: eleven and seven Matt Sarah got and it seems to

1651
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 2: be no rhyme or reason of who gets in or when.

1652
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 2: So am I happy? Does he belong? Yes, Cowboy, I've

1653
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 2: enjoyed a lot one of the worst interviews in the

1654
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 2: history of the sport, Luke. But I didn't find a way. Yeah.

1655
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 2: I did find a way down the stretch, usually by

1656
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 2: pissing him off to make something fun happen. But how

1657
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 2: could you know? There were points, you know, in Cowboys

1658
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 2: Run where he's like arguably the most popular fighter in

1659
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 2: the sport, right you know, you put that guy on

1660
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 2: Fox against anybody, and Budweiser Nation is showing up. But

1661
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've understand why he's in like

1662
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 2: first chance compared to other guys, Luke. I mean, I

1663
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 2: do understand it, but I think you know what.

1664
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying, right, Yeah, I know what you're saying, all right,

1665
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 3: So let's play the over under side of.

1666
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: Things here we go.

1667
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 3: So we're not including grappling, So if he takes like

1668
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 3: a grappling super fire, this doesn't count. But for boxing,

1669
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 3: kickboxing or MMA, I'm gonna put the number at point

1670
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 3: five number of times we see Cowboy Serni appear in

1671
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 3: a combat sport from now until the day he dies.

1672
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 2: See the point five is the hard one here because

1673
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,719
Speaker 2: I want to say under he's he's he's Jack Devon

1674
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:38,719
Speaker 2: Royd's now willingly openly he's living, you know, the retirement life.

1675
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 2: If he gets an itch, I'd love. I think he's

1676
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 2: been close enough to acting Luke doing you know, bit

1677
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 2: roles in smaller things that there might be a run

1678
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 2: for him in a you know, direct to DVD type

1679
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 2: type way in terms of being like you know, WW

1680
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 2: secretly has their own movie studios and they put out

1681
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 2: like a shit ton of these direct to TV action

1682
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 2: movies that you're just sort of like it was, okay,

1683
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 2: could he make some long runs in that? Yeah? Possibly,

1684
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 2: But this is the fight game, and you never say never,

1685
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 2: So technically I have to say over, well, we see

1686
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 2: him eventually take an ill advised boxing match. What if

1687
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 2: this game bread thing turns into something? What if ZUFA

1688
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 2: boxing turns into something? Yeah, we're gonna see him at

1689
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 2: least one more time in a boxing or MMA match,

1690
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 2: even if it's as sad as the ladel Ortiz trilogy

1691
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 2: about was at the time where it was just like

1692
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 2: two guys going, hey, this is the last stand. Let's

1693
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 2: cash in that lottery ticket. We will see him again, Luke,

1694
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 2: I think it'll be ill advised. I think he'll get

1695
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 2: knocked out. But them are the breaks in this game.

1696
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: All right, that's your first one. I think that's the

1697
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 1: correct answer.

1698
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 3: By the way, all right, let's putup the graphic here first,

1699
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 3: if we can, Mikey, so let's check this out. So

1700
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 3: Alstair overhim has, as we know, has been suspended a

1701
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 3: year and had his glory kickboxing win against better Hardy

1702
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 3: overturn if testing positive for a banned substance. I mean,

1703
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 3: I just don't understand how on earth he could get caught,

1704
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 3: and why on earth why would you go into business

1705
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 3: with Alistair Overreim only if you wanted him drug free?

1706
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't even understand that. But okay, neither

1707
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 3: here nor there, BC. Here's your question, ready. Number is

1708
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 3: three number of fights Alistair Overreim has left in any

1709
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:08,600
Speaker 3: striking based combat sport.

1710
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the under. I'm gonna take the under. Cool,

1711
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 2: really take the under. I think you'll see him back

1712
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 2: relatively soon.

1713
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 3: Do you have the age of this gentleman's.

1714
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 2: I think he's like forty two. Not that that necessarily,

1715
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 2: you know, by any stretch, disqualifies him, But don't you

1716
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 2: think that forty two? Do you think there's a you know,

1717
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a delay in him returning to elite

1718
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 2: level kickboxing because of this? Could he get it? I mean, look,

1719
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 2: I wonder still let's say PFL signs and gone right,

1720
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 2: or let's say one does when you're looking at name heavyweights,

1721
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 2: that you could talk yourself into being okay with him fighting.

1722
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 2: He's still high up on that list. But look, at

1723
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 2: some point it's got to go. At some point, there's

1724
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 2: a debt, you know. I mean, he's been knocked out

1725
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,759
Speaker 2: many times before it knocked out devastatingly, the most devastating

1726
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 2: not go I've ever seen in this story of the

1727
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 2: world against Francis and Ghana. So I'm not saying that

1728
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 2: we're going to be running out of the way to

1729
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 2: even make that one. But yeah, I'm gonna say the

1730
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,759
Speaker 2: under because when it goes, it's going to go really fast.

1731
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 2: I think you know, two more? Two more? I mean,

1732
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 2: am I wrong?

1733
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 1: Look?

1734
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 2: Or you think you'll fight forever like Coo co Op

1735
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 2: did until they removed him.

1736
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: He might, he might.

1737
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 3: It really is just a function of how many of

1738
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 3: them are big dollar ones, right, you know, and I

1739
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 3: don't know how many of those are left. But it's

1740
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 3: harder to say in kickboxing, right, especially if he goes

1741
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 3: to like East Asia for some kind of opportunity like

1742
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 3: it just it's it's very difficult to say, which why

1743
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 3: I wanted to put it in there. All right, let's

1744
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 3: go to the next one before I get to let

1745
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 3: me set this up here just a little bit. So

1746
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 3: Valentino Chefchenko has been doing a few of the media

1747
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 3: rounds since losing her title to Alexa Grosso, and recently

1748
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 3: she had commented that she thought, you know, referee Jason

1749
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 3: Herzog interfering and standing them up was really just not fair,

1750
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 3: which was like, huh, what she's doing a media tour

1751
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,600
Speaker 3: after losing kind of making excuse This is depending on

1752
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 3: your perspective, right, this would have keep that in mind.

1753
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 3: So let's kind of have a similar question about her.

1754
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 1: The number is.

1755
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:11,839
Speaker 3: Three, how many title fight wins does she have left

1756
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 3: before retirement? I put the number a little too high, but.

1757
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 2: The title win makes it makes it hard here makes

1758
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 2: it really hard. I guess that's the point of the questions.

1759
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 2: I mean, can't she regain this title if she's given

1760
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 2: the immediate rematch that feels is coming. Of course, if

1761
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 2: she did that, could she go on to you know,

1762
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 2: defend against let's say fireauh and win on a style

1763
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:37,560
Speaker 2: based matchup, but defend you know after that against some Yeah.

1764
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 2: I was all setting myself up for the under wait

1765
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 2: title fight wins though, so that would mean she would

1766
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 2: need to regain It's not gonna win the title three times,

1767
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 2: three times separately and lose each one. This division is

1768
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 2: catching up. She's thirty four years old. I'm not against you.

1769
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,919
Speaker 2: I'm not against her here Luke being a little blamey,

1770
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 2: little excuse Leyden because I feel at that level it

1771
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 2: is part of her retaining her own level of invincibility.

1772
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 2: I don't think she's somebody who doesn't do the work

1773
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 2: and doesn't try to evolve, Like that's all we ever

1774
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 2: talk about with her, is that's what she does. So

1775
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 2: title fight wins in any weight class, yeah all right.

1776
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 2: If we're saying any weight class, I'm gonna take the over.

1777
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 2: I don't think she's done. I don't think she's anywhere

1778
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 2: near done. I think it's just as likely she figures

1779
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 2: out a way to beat Grosso in a rematch, and

1780
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 2: then could she chip away at some of these other names.

1781
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 2: She could. It also could fall apart right away against

1782
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 2: a blankshield against somebody else. But I don't think we're

1783
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 2: seeing physical evidence of massive age decline. She's making adjustments

1784
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 2: to natural age decline and the fact that.

1785
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 1: The definitely the division catch up without.

1786
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 2: Question, and there's always going to be an element. When

1787
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 2: she was dominating that lower tier level challenger consistently of

1788
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 2: were we overrating her in our eyes to some degree?

1789
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, of course, right, I mean that's it's

1790
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 2: just the nature of it. Yeah, Look, I'm gonna take

1791
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 2: the over and I'm pretty secure with that. I'm pretty

1792
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 2: content with that.

1793
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 1: I definitely take the under on that. But okay, BC,

1794
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: let me read this to you.

1795
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 3: So Banil Darus spoke to Submission Radio on why he

1796
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 3: didn't call out Islam Makachev. He says, Nah, I work

1797
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 3: so hard to win that fight. Why am I going

1798
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 3: to give my shine to him? I'm gonna give my

1799
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 3: shine to the people who helped me win in my fight.

1800
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 3: I find call outs like please fight me. No, I

1801
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 3: know who helped me to get there and where I am.

1802
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 3: Why am I gonna waste my energy talking taking that

1803
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 3: shine that's on me and giving it to someone else.

1804
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 3: I could care less. I said it before and I'll

1805
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 3: say it again. I'm not begging for a title shot.

1806
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 3: If they just want to keep putting guys in front

1807
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 3: of me, then I'll just keep chopping heads off, which

1808
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 3: I really just don't understand.

1809
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: So question BC with.

1810
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 3: That in mind, the number is one point five, the

1811
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 3: number of wins Banil Darius needs before he actually gets

1812
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 3: a title shot.

1813
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 2: Yo. That's a good question. So, wow, this is well

1814
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 2: done here, Luke.

1815
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: This is a Mikey mormdl special right here.

1816
01:21:59,320 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 2: Needs one more win.

1817
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: So the answer is under he needs just the one.

1818
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, he needs one more win. He needs one more win.

1819
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 1: Tell me why.

1820
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 2: You can only wait around so long in that regard.

1821
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,679
Speaker 2: I think that at that point, if he gets another

1822
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,719
Speaker 2: win and some of these other guys try to sort

1823
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 2: of figure themselves out. I mean, look, if he beats

1824
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 2: Charles Olivera, yeah, Luke, he's getting the if he beats

1825
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 2: number one Charles Olivera, the former champion after that near

1826
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 2: sort of historic run out of nowhere, especially if Gechie

1827
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,719
Speaker 2: and Pooria end up fighting each other, which is almost

1828
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 2: like they're choosing the root of big All Action fund

1829
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 2: super fight against one another. Yeah, one more and he's

1830
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 2: in the rest of that division, is not. You know,

1831
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 2: Ifaziv just took a step back Gamrod. You know sar

1832
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 2: yukin head step backs on their rise, although they you

1833
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 2: know they're gonna be back in big fights, and then

1834
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 2: you get our Da in the tranchuloat around out the

1835
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 2: top ten. He's gonna get the next shot. I mean,

1836
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 2: Poorier Gachi. I don't think it's necessarily gonna produce that, Luke,

1837
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 2: if they're gonna fight, you don't.

1838
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: Think it's gonna produce that.

1839
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 2: I think he's going to produce a great fight. But

1840
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 2: I think if because it's the quality of the win

1841
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 2: that I'm banking on. If you beat Charles Olivera, and

1842
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 2: you've been a guy who's been waiting on the outside

1843
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 2: looking in like ballall, like Max, how to do one time,

1844
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 2: like Tony had to do forever, you beat somebody like that,

1845
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 2: it's going to trump everything you beat. You beat Charles Olivera, right,

1846
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 2: now look, it's going to trump everything and he's going

1847
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:24,799
Speaker 2: to be next for Islam Maatchev.

1848
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the next one. So we

1849
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 3: knew that Diego Sanchez fought Kevin Lee headlined Eagle FC

1850
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 3: forty six on March eleventh, twenty twenty two. The organization,

1851
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 3: of course, also signed former heavyweight champion gior Do Santos

1852
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 3: to headline Ego FC forty seven. However, the May twenty

1853
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 3: twenty two show also marked the organization's final event in

1854
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 3: the United States. Eagle FC went on to host four

1855
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 3: more events. This is from Bloody Elbow, the last of

1856
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 3: which took place on December tenth, twenty twenty two. There

1857
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 3: are currently no plans for any more events in the

1858
01:23:56,080 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 3: foreseeable future, and in fact, you have their excuse me there,

1859
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 3: I forget the guy's title in the organization here, but

1860
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 3: he says, quote, Ego FC depends on Habib.

1861
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 1: He said this to it to an interview. So Ego

1862
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 1: f C will go on. We will push it forward.

1863
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 3: We have so many young guys who are competing, so

1864
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 3: we just don't want to stop and leave this behind. However,

1865
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 3: that that interview took place a while ago, the most

1866
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 3: recent one. He says, quote, we're on pause. Of course

1867
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 3: without Habib, it's hard to do anything. He was always

1868
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:29,600
Speaker 3: moving forward like a train. But we'll get together and

1869
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,640
Speaker 3: we'll see how to do it all without Habib. So

1870
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 3: here is the question, BC. The number is point five,

1871
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 3: the number of total egle FC shows that will take

1872
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 3: place at any point in the future.

1873
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 2: At any point in the future. The any point in

1874
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 2: the future really clouds it to me because could they

1875
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 2: could they run off another run of you know, Russian

1876
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:54,680
Speaker 2: based shows and just kind of go on and yeah,

1877
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 2: So in that regard, Luke, I'm going to take the

1878
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 2: over because you're allowing me to take that that which

1879
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 2: is you know, I don't know the reasoning of it,

1880
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 2: Like they could go to Russia right now and run

1881
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 2: off one a month for a while. The idea of

1882
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 2: them doing what they tried to do in a short

1883
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 2: season come to the US, put on shows with like,

1884
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 2: you know, pretty decent production elements, paying a lot of

1885
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 2: famous fighters to be your announced crew, to do podcasts

1886
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 2: before it, to do all that stuff. Yeah, that's over, Luke.

1887
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 2: I think part of it, of course is will be

1888
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 2: wanting to take more family time and lessen his schedule

1889
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 2: after an aggressive run. I think a lot of it

1890
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 2: is just the realization of the money, Luke. They had

1891
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 2: to have taken a loss pretty heavily for every single

1892
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 2: one of those American shows, and you know, didn't get

1893
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 2: a backer jumping in saying we'd like to add you

1894
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 2: and unless you're gonna be part of the vehicle, which

1895
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 2: is the UFC Fight Pass engine of these regional promotions

1896
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 2: that essentially play their whole role. Their whole role is

1897
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 2: to play middleman to get you the younger guys off

1898
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 2: of the circuit that have bright potential. And then you know,

1899
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 2: you can watch those videos by that guy Mmai and

1900
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 2: see the relationship between how these managers slash local promoters

1901
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 2: who have TV contracts with Fight Pass end up operating

1902
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 2: to lower the salaries coming in. I don't think that's

1903
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 2: what Habib tried to tried to bank in on. So Luke, technically,

1904
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 2: I'm going to take the over because I think doing

1905
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 2: local Russian shows is a different thing altogether. But remember

1906
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 2: when we had Shale in that RSD, it.

1907
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 3: Was I think it's coming to a close. That was

1908
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:23,879
Speaker 3: that was the that was the day of the presser

1909
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 3: for Anderson Silva Jack Paul.

1910
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 2: He was like, matter of fact, I guess that's done with.

1911
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 2: There's no more money, you know, and they're not getting invested.

1912
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 2: So I think sometimes, Luke, you take a big swing,

1913
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 2: and let's give Eagle FC credit. It took a fairly

1914
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,640
Speaker 2: large swing to have the celebrity faced people there, like

1915
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 2: did you know brought in the X names that were

1916
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 2: close enough to their primes where it's like, oh, they

1917
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 2: got Kevin Lee and Junior de Santa's okay. Can't make

1918
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 2: money off of that unless you're committed to lose over

1919
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 2: the long haul, or unless you have some huge TV deal.

1920
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 2: They don't have any of that. But you just said

1921
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 2: they did a number of Russian shows including December, so yeah,

1922
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 2: look it's the over.

1923
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 3: It's the over on that all right again, Yeah, two

1924
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 3: more of these and what we'll call today on this

1925
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 3: all right, So if you look it up in the

1926
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 3: USADA database, today is what the twenty ninth of March

1927
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, so we're about three months into the year. Obviously,

1928
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 3: Connor McGregor has not been tested yet even this year.

1929
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: BC.

1930
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put the number at three, the number of

1931
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 3: times you SADA will test Connor McGregor this year. In

1932
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, we're already three months down. The number

1933
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 3: is zero. So in nine months I'm gonna put the

1934
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 3: over under at three three number of times YUSADA will

1935
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 3: test Connor McGregor.

1936
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 1: Are you gonna take the over? Are you gonna take

1937
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 1: the under?

1938
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 2: I hate that I'm giving you all cute, cheeky answers here. Look,

1939
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 2: maybe I'm breaking the spirit of it. I'm gonna take

1940
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 2: the over because I think what's gonna eventually happen to

1941
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 2: fix this. And you know, if you have questions about

1942
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 2: the legality or morality of this, ask Novitski. It's fucking

1943
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 2: a legal you know what I mean, Like, this is

1944
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 2: not my job anymore. I'm so glad I don't have

1945
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,679
Speaker 2: to deal with this. I'll have to deal with is slaps,

1946
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? You know, No, Luke, Ultimately

1947
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen is they're gonna announce the Connor Chandler

1948
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 2: fight for later this year. There will be some bullshit

1949
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:10,679
Speaker 2: massage statement from USADA saying, no, you guys don't realize

1950
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 2: we actually started testing him earlier than you thought. It

1951
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 2: just didn't go public. And then you know what they're

1952
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 2: gonna do the last three months before the fight, Luke

1953
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 2: tests the absolute shit out of him so they can say, look, people,

1954
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 2: we did it. This is what you wanted. He's clean.

1955
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 2: So it's going to be the over. But is it

1956
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 2: gonna be handled in any sort of way that makes sense. No,

1957
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 2: it's gonna be dogging pony. And we already have the

1958
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 2: face of the organization going not my problem, dudes, okay,

1959
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 2: and everybody just seems to be okay with this. Yeah,

1960
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:41,719
Speaker 2: what a what a crock of shit Luke that they're

1961
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 2: cooking up over there, you know what I mean?

1962
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 1: All right?

1963
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 3: And last but not least, basically, we just talked about

1964
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 3: it at Game Bread four boxing. Gonna put the number

1965
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 3: at two number of rounds Vitor belfour versus Jacquarago's total,

1966
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 3: and I should kind of put before it goes sad

1967
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:02,600
Speaker 3: or before it goes out, But I just I just

1968
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 3: can't imagine that one going for very long.

1969
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 1: You see, what do you think? So if those three

1970
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 1: that's the over at two.

1971
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 2: And under, Yeah, I'll take the over. I like a

1972
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 2: third round stoppage for Bell for how many how many

1973
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 2: rounds does this fight?

1974
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 1: I think that one is six, I'll double check, could

1975
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:17,839
Speaker 1: be yeah, looks.

1976
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:20,679
Speaker 2: Look, you gotta give Jockaray a chance to six six,

1977
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 2: try some things out, get hit with a big shot,

1978
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 2: cover up a little bit. I'm gonna go over on here.

1979
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 2: But belle Fort by a Finish seems to be the

1980
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 2: smart bet he seems to have of all these guys.

1981
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 2: He seems to have a certain amount of extra juice left.

1982
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 1: If you know what I mean, that extra gear.

1983
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Yes, yes, all right, you

1984
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 3: see that's it for over Under. Why don't you show

1985
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 3: what what's up with the fan subs?

1986
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? Why don't we see what these people put on

1987
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 2: our fridge? This week? Morning Combat at gmail dot com

1988
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 2: allows you the chance to send in your artwork pictures

1989
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 2: of you wearing tight T shirts with your girlfriend, and

1990
01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:59,639
Speaker 2: then we can judge you know, your musculature and all

1991
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 2: that stuff. It's called fansubmissions. You've got mail feures Tweek's

1992
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 2: mail fans Riding into Us starts with Jacques Luke, what's up? Luke?

1993
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:12,679
Speaker 1: In BC?

1994
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 2: I wanted to get my brother tickets for UFC two

1995
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 2: eighty six for his birthday, but unfortunately, as a broke

1996
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 2: university student that was far out of my budget. Instead,

1997
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 2: I had decided to hit some regional MMA at Cage

1998
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 2: Warriors one point fifty, and of course I had a Rep. MK.

1999
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 2: It was a great evening with amazing finishes, the best

2000
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 2: being a spectacular spinning back kick from rising prospect Lon Cavanaugh.

2001
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 2: Keep an eye on him. He'll be in the UFC soon.

2002
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 2: The only downside was the extremely overpriced beer, which I

2003
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 2: know you are used to in the States. Thank you,

2004
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 2: guys for making the best sports content and combat available

2005
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 2: and forgetting me through the grind of a four year

2006
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 2: engineering degree. Best wishes Jaques and ps, since you guys

2007
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 2: are best friends. Now here's us with the main man,

2008
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 2: Arnold Allen outside the YO two for the UFC London card.

2009
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 3: You know my man's shirt that says Paris on it.

2010
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 3: It's like the worst fitting shirt of all time.

2011
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it is. But but go back to the

2012
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 2: other picture him and his DONK friend reped MK.

2013
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, hey, I like Jacques.

2014
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 3: Jacques needs to get his friend a ticket to the

2015
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 3: barber instead of the fights. To get him a ticket

2016
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 3: to the barber, I think that's more in order.

2017
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 2: That's his brother right there, Jacques's brother.

2018
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, he needs to get his brother a ticket.

2019
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:26,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like, I got my brother a ticket to

2020
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 3: the fights, not I get him a ticket to the

2021
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 3: barber chair.

2022
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, please please do that. But uh, thank you for

2023
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,599
Speaker 2: supporting the indie scene here, the MMA regional scene.

2024
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 1: You never could.

2025
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 3: I always tell you, I always do, especially now with

2026
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 3: these UFC tickets, like the big the shows on the road,

2027
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 3: they're insanely priced. They're going back to London. We didn't

2028
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:43,759
Speaker 3: even talk about it. They're gonna go back to London

2029
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 3: in July.

2030
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 1: Dude.

2031
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 3: Those tickets, I think, just to get you in the door,

2032
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:50,439
Speaker 3: Like American are like four or five hundred dollars. Yea,

2033
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:52,679
Speaker 3: just like the worst ones dude.

2034
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 2: Right now, the UFC, I think, my personal take, because

2035
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 2: there's only so much that can make in actual pay

2036
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 2: per view sales, are just most gouging. They are gouging

2037
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 2: every I mean, did you talk about the octagon yet

2038
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 2: with the names in it? Did you talk about that yet?

2039
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 1: No, we'll get to that in a minute, Okay.

2040
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 2: I mean they are gouging every inch. That's why I

2041
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 2: think you're gonna see more hometown fighters fighting in their

2042
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 2: home country with the hopes of selling out that box

2043
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,919
Speaker 2: office as fast as possible. Only now they're doing Vegas

2044
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 2: boxing prices. What I mean by that is, why are

2045
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 2: the number one gates in like combat sports history always

2046
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 2: boxing matches in Vegas, But yet they're at the MGM

2047
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 2: gram which hosts what Luke like ten twelve thousand, eight thousand. Yeah,

2048
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 2: if that because they can gouge up the price. The

2049
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 2: casinos will get most of them, high rollers will get

2050
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 2: the rest for the most part. You know, that works

2051
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 2: no different than the Super Bowl, Luke, which last time

2052
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 2: I checked, if you even have a chance of getting

2053
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:46,640
Speaker 2: a ticket, it's a minimum of five hundred for the

2054
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 2: upper upper extreme deck. Right in terms of regular price, Yes,

2055
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 2: the thing is we're making every UFC card now a

2056
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 2: super Bowl price. UFC has always had a leg up

2057
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 2: on boxing, other may organizations and larks even you can

2058
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 2: argue other sports because from start to finish you get

2059
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 2: you get pretty damn consistent action across the board. Good

2060
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 2: fights finishes right like even if the early names aren't great.

2061
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 2: But they're testing, you know, they're cutting corners and testing

2062
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 2: the patients here in a lot of ways to extreme gouge.

2063
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,559
Speaker 2: Do you have a take on the extreme gouge level lately.

2064
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 3: Luke Well and in general, just going to like anything

2065
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 3: now is expensive.

2066
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 1: If you want to go to a sport, like.

2067
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 3: Dude, like the Wizard's fucking blow and any good Wizard

2068
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 3: seat is like one hundred bucks.

2069
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:33,639
Speaker 1: They're gonna make me.

2070
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 2: Pay two hundred for Mellencamp. What am I an American fool? Look?

2071
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, you know well you are an

2072
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 1: American fool.

2073
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 3: But here's my point. Just think about it. Like me,

2074
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 3: it's gonna be me, my wife and tukis. That's three

2075
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 3: hundred plus tax and everything else. Let's say through twenty

2076
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 3: three thirty, right, you're gonna have to park or uber

2077
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 3: so that you can factor another thirty or fort dude

2078
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 3: parking at cap one seventy five dollars seventy five dollars.

2079
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 3: Then then if you want to get I don't drink

2080
01:33:57,280 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 3: any beer, but let's say you want to get beer,

2081
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 3: that's gonna be you know, fifteen or whatever or food whatever,

2082
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:03,760
Speaker 3: Like dude, to go to a fucking game for the

2083
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 3: shitty ass Wizards, it's like four or five hundred dollars. Like,

2084
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 3: it's just absurd what these teams are doing to people

2085
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 3: these days. So like, I definitely feel for people who

2086
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 3: want to go to UFC shows and they're like, oh

2087
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:16,759
Speaker 3: my god, but dude, to get tickets to major acts

2088
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 3: is expensive to get tickets. I don't know what happened

2089
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 3: in the pandemic where tickets just went absurdly expensive for everything.

2090
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,760
Speaker 2: Remember what Willie Nelson said in Hot, Half Baked Luke.

2091
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 2: I remember when a dombag used to cost a dime?

2092
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:32,720
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, remember, Well, here's the thing, to get

2093
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 3: back to the original, to get back to the original point.

2094
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 3: I was like this, to get back to the original point.

2095
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 3: It's what I always tell folks, Dude, like, don't wait

2096
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 3: for UFC to come to town.

2097
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 1: Go see regional MMA. It's cheaper.

2098
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 3: The action is actually going to be pretty good, especially

2099
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 3: if it's an event that Arizona like Fight Pass. You're

2100
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 3: supporting your local fighters, like it's just a better and

2101
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 3: you get much closer seats, Like it's just a better night.

2102
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 3: Go go unless you're rich and you can do whatever

2103
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 3: the fuck you want.

2104
01:34:56,520 --> 01:35:00,720
Speaker 2: But you know, and somebody might throw up on somebody, yeah.

2105
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, might collapse, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, there's it's gonna

2106
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 1: be awesome. It's gonna be great.

2107
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 2: It's gonna be you know, someone you might take an

2108
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 2: you might take a limb home with you, Luke, if

2109
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 2: you sit close enough, let's go to Mentonio. Mentonio says,

2110
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:18,599
Speaker 2: there was epic lighting in MK episode four twenty two. Yeah,

2111
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 2: what was that with that, Luke? There was there was

2112
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 2: weird reflections in your glasses and you did not want

2113
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 2: to talk about it at all.

2114
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:26,200
Speaker 3: It's the it's the lenses. The lenses. I have to

2115
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 3: get non reflecting lenses. Uh, basically because you could see

2116
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 3: you could see it here too. They they reflect. So

2117
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 3: if I go up past, you can't see. If I

2118
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 3: go down you can't see. But if I go right

2119
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 3: in the middle, it catches everything. And so yeah, but

2120
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:41,200
Speaker 3: you know, what are you gonna say.

2121
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:43,879
Speaker 2: Life question? What's your history with contact lenses?

2122
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 3: People have recommended it. I get them. Here's a true story.

2123
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 3: I can't. I didn't realize I had a thing about

2124
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 3: it until I did the show with Craig Carton and

2125
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 3: the Man Censored live on Spike TV. And they had

2126
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 3: a makeup person for that, and the makeup person would

2127
01:35:58,200 --> 01:35:59,960
Speaker 3: always take the makeup ship and like bring a real

2128
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:02,800
Speaker 3: close to my eyeballs, and I realized I can't. I

2129
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 3: can't deal with stuff like touching my eyeballs like that,

2130
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:09,200
Speaker 3: and so I'm just gonna wear glasses in not contacts.

2131
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 3: I just don't like it.

2132
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 2: All right, What if you get dms from people telling

2133
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 2: you that they had that same feeling and then they

2134
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 2: tried and the new ones are great and they're you know,

2135
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 2: it could change your life, would you consider.

2136
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:22,639
Speaker 1: I just block them on social media?

2137
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 2: All right? There we go. Let's hear from Tim. He says,

2138
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 2: rate my tat, and like Luke, I also love Arnold,

2139
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,719
Speaker 2: so I'm hoping he digs this one in ps. Luke,

2140
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 2: I got this tattoo just north of d C in Frederick, Maryland.

2141
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 3: Frederick, Maryland actually has some good tattooing. This is pretty good.

2142
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 3: This is pretty good. That's actually very good.

2143
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 2: Is that the terminator, Luke?

2144
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the terminator.

2145
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 3: They've taken some creative license in a few different directions,

2146
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 3: but that's really really it's like a it's like the

2147
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 3: it's like the terminator, but it's almost like American traditional style.

2148
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like it a lot. That's really good work.

2149
01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:57,719
Speaker 1: It's solid.

2150
01:36:58,040 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 2: It's not a tuma.

2151
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:03,880
Speaker 1: Hey, don't you fucking but smirch the goat on this show?

2152
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:07,920
Speaker 2: What does your name and what does your daddy do?

2153
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:13,599
Speaker 2: All right? Uh? Luke, Michael says, non American donks trying

2154
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 2: to figure out when MK starts. Let's look at this.

2155
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 1: Okay, what are these fucking nerds wearing?

2156
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe one?

2157
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 3: Okay, there's there's six guys on this screen. Is there

2158
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 3: one in there that's ever sexually pleased a woman?

2159
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:35,439
Speaker 1: Not one? I mean, look at.

2160
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 2: These virtually virtually. They're probably talking to at Zuck right now, Luke, Okay,

2161
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:40,599
Speaker 2: this is this is great.

2162
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 3: They're just they're just looking at bbl's torque on TikTok.

2163
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 2: Look, how close do you think we can actually are

2164
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 2: we are as a society to actually being able to

2165
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 2: plug into the matrix, Like think about what movies about

2166
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 2: the future, like Total Recall. Remember when you could pay

2167
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 2: to take that vacation in your mind and you could

2168
01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 2: pick like slutty women as opposed to sporty. One always

2169
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 2: go sporty, by the way, I mean, are we close

2170
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 2: to that? You could argue, Luke that you know I

2171
01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 2: can put on my headset and play Xbox and talk

2172
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 2: to Fortnite players around the world and already plug into

2173
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 2: that shit. But are we close to that?

2174
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 1: I have no clue. I don't.

2175
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 3: I mean plug into the Matrix. The Matrix was a

2176
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:20,759
Speaker 3: program that was made by basically sentient Reuly.

2177
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 2: What I'm asking you is with video games to a level,

2178
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,639
Speaker 2: with virtual reality to a certain level, with the fact that,

2179
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:28,519
Speaker 2: you know, most a lot of people don't like their

2180
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 2: regular life and want to plug in somewhere, are we

2181
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 2: pretty close to being able to do that where you

2182
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 2: just sort of like, I'm not gonna live today, let

2183
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 2: me plug in and enjoy myself.

2184
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called a bong. All right, it's it's called

2185
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 1: it's called a gravity bomb. Try it.

2186
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I actually have Yeah, Hey.

2187
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like my life anymore. Spin the

2188
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:50,400
Speaker 1: gravity bomb.

2189
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, spin the back, spin the black circle. That's

2190
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 2: what I do on my turntable, Luke, whenever I don't

2191
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 2: like life, I go back to the nineteen seventies and

2192
01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 2: it's glorious. This one's from Michael. Oh no, that was Michael.

2193
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 2: Let's go to Alan w Look, you know Alan w

2194
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 2: Right just sure, just a genius. He says, I'm one

2195
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 2: with the universe, and the universe is with me. No,

2196
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:13,360
Speaker 2: I'm mistay Okay.

2197
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 1: I love the tattoo, by the way, it's very nice.

2198
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, is this Yogi Luke? The yogi here?

2199
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:21,799
Speaker 1: Do I need this in my life? Masila?

2200
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 2: That's it? Would you ever consider covering over the chest

2201
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 2: and stomach tats you already have by putting that that?

2202
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 3: Uh oh yeah, ohya, I'm getting I'm getting one cover up?

2203
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 1: Uh soon? Actually?

2204
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:35,879
Speaker 2: Oh nice? What are you getting? You want to talk about.

2205
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:38,960
Speaker 1: My full sleeve and over onto the top of the chest?

2206
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 2: Okay? Well, Alan w has provided words for that first picture.

2207
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:47,679
Speaker 2: It says, I'm your Donkleberry say when oh, there's there,

2208
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 2: we go there we gore go? Is that bc as

2209
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 2: what Wyper? The other guy?

2210
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:51,760
Speaker 1: Luke?

2211
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 3: Who was the guy who died of tuberculosis? What was

2212
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:56,599
Speaker 3: his name? Played by Val Kilmer?

2213
01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:00,160
Speaker 2: It was either Wyat Erper the other guy.

2214
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 3: Probably in Tombstone, in Tombstone, what the fuck was his name?

2215
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 3: There's some there's someone who lives in like New Mexico

2216
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:07,559
Speaker 3: who's screaming at the screen right now.

2217
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 2: He's like, I could be her Huckabee right now, and

2218
01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:11,840
Speaker 2: we're like, we don't need you. We don't need you. Hey,

2219
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 2: there's another pick for Allan w It says, I walked

2220
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 2: along the avenue. I never thought i'd meet a dunk

2221
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:19,679
Speaker 2: like you, meet a donk like you with bloodshot eyes

2222
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:22,720
Speaker 2: and row eight high, the kind of high that gluttonized me.

2223
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 1: Holiday, by the way, it was his name, Holiday, Thank you.

2224
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 2: And I ran and got to circle k and I

2225
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:31,599
Speaker 2: ran and I ate all night and day like it's

2226
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving Day. Lucas that some song lyrics.

2227
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 3: I should have known, yes, and I ran, I ran

2228
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:40,640
Speaker 3: so far away.

2229
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 1: From flock of seagulls, gotta get away.

2230
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there you go, well done, Allen w Thank

2231
01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:46,880
Speaker 2: you very much. That's a decent photo. I'd put that

2232
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:47,280
Speaker 2: on a post.

2233
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. My hair just looks like the ass of a scar.

2234
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:50,640
Speaker 1: You know, what are you gonna do?

2235
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:52,320
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do?

2236
01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:52,760
Speaker 1: Right there?

2237
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:54,280
Speaker 2: I mean we would have been pretty lame if our

2238
01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 2: prime was in the early eighties there, Luke, we would

2239
01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:56,919
Speaker 2: have been pretty.

2240
01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:58,320
Speaker 1: Lame, right, yeah, as opposed to now.

2241
01:40:59,880 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 2: I like to think I have a timeless look now, Luke.

2242
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean out of time, Yeah, timeless, out

2243
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 3: of time?

2244
01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 2: All right, Morning combat at gmail dot com is the hell?

2245
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:13,960
Speaker 2: Look there, are. There are some whispers online that the

2246
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:16,960
Speaker 2: whatever we had at some point with the fan subs

2247
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 2: that it's over now.

2248
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:22,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you want to get to the UFC thing?

2249
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, shortly. But either people are out of ideas, Luke,

2250
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:28,800
Speaker 2: or the people that had good ideas that really loved

2251
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:31,160
Speaker 2: our show no longer love our show as much.

2252
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:35,120
Speaker 3: Well Danger Mouse really losing him was as a regular

2253
01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 3: contributor to this.

2254
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:36,960
Speaker 1: It hurt us big.

2255
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 2: How about Damien the donk Luke? Is he in jail?

2256
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 2: I don't know where that guy is.

2257
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen to people, the MMA fans come and go, bro,

2258
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 3: this is the reality people.

2259
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 1: Are we ruin them?

2260
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:47,920
Speaker 2: Webscream used to be like part of our lives on

2261
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 2: a daily basis. Did we ruin all these great people? Well?

2262
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:55,639
Speaker 1: Ja, he's too busy giving directions on ways in Greek?

2263
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 2: I love me some Webscream. I mean one day where

2264
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:00,920
Speaker 2: we find Ja Piquett living in a van down by

2265
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:03,400
Speaker 2: the river, Luke because of us? Or is that inevitable anyway?

2266
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:08,720
Speaker 3: No, because his wife looks like a baller. But but

2267
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 3: he's definitely he's definitely got some You know you're gonna

2268
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 3: se you're gonna see him purp walk before too long.

2269
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:17,920
Speaker 2: I think I'm kind of hoping for an appy redemption story,

2270
01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:19,800
Speaker 2: like an arc you know, where he just becomes like

2271
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 2: a credit to his society, Like he stops taking from

2272
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 2: the society.

2273
01:42:24,040 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 1: By what going to jail and he starts giving.

2274
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 2: Luke, well, I'm sure he'd be willing to give to

2275
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:29,840
Speaker 2: this dude had.

2276
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:32,200
Speaker 3: This dude in public had underwear on the outside of

2277
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:33,600
Speaker 3: his pants the first time he met us.

2278
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:36,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, got some.

2279
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:37,439
Speaker 2: Movie, all right, what do you got for me here, Luke?

2280
01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 2: What else you got?

2281
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:39,519
Speaker 3: Let's let's look at this one thing here before we

2282
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 3: call it a day on the show. So the UFC

2283
01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:44,439
Speaker 3: announced for one thousand dollars, you can get your name

2284
01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 3: printed on the octagon canvas of like an upcoming event,

2285
01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 3: and then after the event they would cut it out

2286
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 3: and put it in a plaque with like, you know,

2287
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 3: some other decoration related to the event itself and then

2288
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 3: send it to you. I don't know if we have

2289
01:42:57,200 --> 01:42:59,240
Speaker 3: the uh oh, he didn't have the video. I don't

2290
01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:00,920
Speaker 3: know if you have if you have any graphic about it,

2291
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 3: Mikey or anything you can put on the screen, just

2292
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 3: let us know, throw it up.

2293
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:05,800
Speaker 1: But b see here's the thing that kind of got

2294
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 1: to me.

2295
01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 3: It's like, did we talked about this we were in

2296
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:10,400
Speaker 3: studio last time, not this idea per se, But if

2297
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 3: you just watch the octagon, it's completely saturated with ads,

2298
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 3: to the point where like literally they're running out of

2299
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 3: real estate to put ads on it, which is why

2300
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:23,439
Speaker 3: they're doing this. This is a way to generate revenue

2301
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 3: that the otherwise wouldn't be able to generate. And they

2302
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 3: don't have any more free real estate of much anyway

2303
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:31,559
Speaker 3: inside the octagon, like you pay whoever is the main

2304
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:34,240
Speaker 3: sponsor gets obviously the center of the part, but all

2305
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:36,760
Speaker 3: the all of the padding on the top, on the

2306
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 3: on the on the not the stanchion, but the the

2307
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 3: post itself has it on, the lighting around it has it.

2308
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:48,920
Speaker 3: Each each panel has it, each side panel has it.

2309
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:50,760
Speaker 1: Like there's nothing left to do it.

2310
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 3: I just want to point out something like, clearly the

2311
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 3: UFC has given a lot of thought to who's going

2312
01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 3: to advertise, where it's going to go, what it's going

2313
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 3: to look like. And I don't even mind that this

2314
01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 3: is a relatively creative idea or however you want to

2315
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 3: look at it, but it's like it's so fucking insane

2316
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 3: to me, by the way, I was looking up old

2317
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:10,439
Speaker 3: videos of the UFC, like justifying the Rebok deal, and like,

2318
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 3: remember when they said all the fight, all the money

2319
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:14,120
Speaker 3: was going to go to the fighters and they get

2320
01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 3: twenty percent of whatever else they sell, Like just all

2321
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:17,559
Speaker 3: this shit that ended up not being true.

2322
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:19,480
Speaker 1: But clearly what clearly.

2323
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 3: Is true is they've put a lot of thought into

2324
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:25,120
Speaker 3: monetizing that space, utterly decorating it to the point now

2325
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 3: where they're just putting fans fucking names on it for

2326
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:30,639
Speaker 3: a grand And my point being is, you can't tell

2327
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 3: me that the level of consideration that goes into that,

2328
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:36,719
Speaker 3: and how what an eyesore that is, is in any

2329
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:39,639
Speaker 3: way a better version of doing things than letting fighters

2330
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:44,559
Speaker 3: have their own advertisers or pay or at least some

2331
01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 3: version of it, some some some some version of it.

2332
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:50,800
Speaker 3: They're printing fucking fans' names on the octagon canvas, and

2333
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:53,639
Speaker 3: the fighters are still at the mercy of whatever venom

2334
01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 3: in this case is going to do for them.

2335
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:57,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in that regard. Look, there's sort of

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01:44:57,880 --> 01:45:00,040
Speaker 2: a couple of debates within one, like is there a

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01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 2: amit of shamelessness that the UFC should have in terms

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01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:06,519
Speaker 2: of monetizing its own logo and name and brand reputation.

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01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:08,519
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'm starting to wonder, Luke, can

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01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:10,720
Speaker 2: we just run fan messages in the bottom of our

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01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:12,760
Speaker 2: screen throughout this whole show and you know, charge nine

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01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 2: to nine cents per and and you know, or maybe

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01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:16,840
Speaker 2: I'll just open up and only pipes. You know, maybe

2344
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 2: cameo dot com slush Brian Campbell and I'll do the same.

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01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 2: But you know, the idea of the octagon looks like

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01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:23,680
Speaker 2: a triple A baseball fence right now. You know, it

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01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:26,479
Speaker 2: looks like we got you know, you know, Ron's long

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01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:29,160
Speaker 2: care next to uh, you know, family footcare, and it's like.

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01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 1: Ye crazy Steve's bailbonds.

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01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:32,760
Speaker 2: Yes, So it's like, how, you know, what does that

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01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:35,640
Speaker 2: actually mean when someone like Budweiser, someone pays for a

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01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:38,639
Speaker 2: big logo. But there's forty of them around there, I think.

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01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 2: But anytime you're you're linking it back to the idea

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01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 2: of we have a major problem in terms of the

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01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:45,960
Speaker 2: disparity and fighter pay compared with other pro sports that

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01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:49,160
Speaker 2: UFC competes with. Yet all UFC is doing is trying

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01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:52,919
Speaker 2: to create more ways to make their own individual revenue

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01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:56,599
Speaker 2: that's separate from there. It does like it is this

2359
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 2: like is there gonna be a sale or something like this?

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01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:02,320
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Remember like in twenty sixteen

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01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:05,400
Speaker 2: when they packed all those fight cards together, they were

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01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:07,720
Speaker 2: so deep the build up to USC two hundred. I

2363
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 2: mean there was you know, fight cards every night with

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01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 2: title fights atop it in all that whole calendar year.

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01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 2: The pay per views were just jacked up unnecessarily even

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01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:18,360
Speaker 2: to be fair, with just deep, great fights. But okay,

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01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:20,800
Speaker 2: the idea was that's going toward the sale, and it's

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01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:24,519
Speaker 2: all helping the numbers rise leading into the sale. What's

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01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 2: going on right now? Is it just like I almost

2370
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:29,599
Speaker 2: feel like everybody involves, like let's get every red scent

2371
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:31,280
Speaker 2: we can and then we'll just leave.

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01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 1: Let's look at the video.

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01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 3: This is the video of the UFC put together so

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01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:41,679
Speaker 3: the names would go on the black like demarcation line essentially. Well,

2375
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:44,880
Speaker 3: that video is just I mean just cranking along.

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01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's using the charging cord that I tried to

2377
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 2: this morning. Look to what I bought at the gas

2378
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:52,440
Speaker 2: station there to power my MacBook. I don't advise anybody

2379
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:53,120
Speaker 2: to do that.

2380
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:56,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if this is gonna work. Yeah,

2381
01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:58,759
Speaker 1: I mean you get the idea.

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01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:00,519
Speaker 3: You get the idea because you can say the plaque

2383
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 3: in the background, which is where the piece of your

2384
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:03,800
Speaker 3: name gets cut out and then put on there.

2385
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:04,679
Speaker 1: Have you ever.

2386
01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 2: Actually gone to the UFC memorabilia site, Luke, but then

2387
01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:10,759
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time there and went like deep

2388
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:12,040
Speaker 2: into the menus.

2389
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 1: Not like years, dude.

2390
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:17,200
Speaker 2: There are things on there that would freaking blow you away.

2391
01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 1: They used to have the hot dog brander on there.

2392
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:20,760
Speaker 1: You ever see that.

2393
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:22,639
Speaker 2: They got all weird stuff like that I'm talking about.

2394
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:25,720
Speaker 2: You can buy like John Jones's personal logo on a

2395
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:29,559
Speaker 2: giant ring for like seven thousand dollars. Like, they have weird,

2396
01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 2: really weird stuff on there that's super crazy expensive that

2397
01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:36,200
Speaker 2: you're just like, who the hell would ever buy this?

2398
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:38,760
Speaker 2: But you know, if there's a market for it, that's fine.

2399
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:41,439
Speaker 2: I mean, look, this is no different than like Yankee

2400
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:43,760
Speaker 2: Stadium shutting down and then you know, because they built

2401
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:45,160
Speaker 2: a new one and then they want to sell like

2402
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:48,120
Speaker 2: every piece of plastic or steal from it and have

2403
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 2: like you know, your name autographed down or something, and

2404
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 2: there's a market for it. I get it. It looks

2405
01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:54,000
Speaker 2: nice in a living room. I guess remember that time

2406
01:47:54,040 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 2: my name was on the mat. But you know, is

2407
01:47:57,200 --> 01:48:00,240
Speaker 2: that gonna help? Is that gonna help? You know, Ali

2408
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 2: over to over and pay for his dental insurance twenty sixty. Look,

2409
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:04,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know.

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01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:06,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it will, right, I don't think that

2411
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 1: it will. I don't think that it will all right,

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01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:10,679
Speaker 1: But that's the show for today. Everyone.

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01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 3: Let's remind everyone, even though BC was here for like

2414
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:16,400
Speaker 3: a third of the show, you should still vote for us.

2415
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:20,480
Speaker 3: If you feel generous. You can go to sports Podcastgroup

2416
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 3: dot com. You can vote for us best Combat Sports Podcast,

2417
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:24,800
Speaker 3: or you can vote for someone else because we really

2418
01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 3: are pretty terrible, but you know, please vote for us

2419
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:29,160
Speaker 3: would be great, uh BC. Showtime dot com is the

2420
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 3: label that pays. You can to showtime dot com get

2421
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:32,799
Speaker 3: a thirty day free troup. You can watch the bellatour

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Speaker 3: event Bell Tour two ninety three on Friday, and uh

2423
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 3: you see anything? Any final thoughts before we call it today?

2424
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:44,439
Speaker 2: Probably not like you know, I mean, why you know

2425
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 2: I was barely hair. I mean, I mean I sat

2426
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 2: here the whole time. I just you know, I didn't

2427
01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:51,040
Speaker 2: really bring much to the table today, so I should

2428
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:53,240
Speaker 2: just sheepestly kind of crawl away, Luke probably.

2429
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well, glad you hear b C. Glad you're here.

2430
01:48:57,640 --> 01:49:00,200
Speaker 3: Uh, email the show Morning Combat at gmail dot com

2431
01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:03,679
Speaker 3: for Friday's fan fancuse me Friday's dead wrongs, Wednesday's fan subs,

2432
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 3: and you just want to watch the show in general.

2433
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 2: Did you tell the people that were going to Fort

2434
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 2: Lauderdale soon and we're gonna be doing I didn't.

2435
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:10,280
Speaker 1: You want to tell them real quick and then we'll

2436
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:10,799
Speaker 1: call it today?

2437
01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:14,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, uh, you know, next week Luke and I

2438
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:16,720
Speaker 2: are going to be on the ground in FTL, the

2439
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 2: home office of CBS Sports, you know where Mikey Mormole

2440
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:23,559
Speaker 2: lives and you know, has very elevated THC levels, and

2441
01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:25,479
Speaker 2: we're going to be doing some some big boys shit,

2442
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:27,920
Speaker 2: a lot of big time content coming your way, room

2443
01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 2: service diaries on location, big sit downs ahead of some

2444
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:33,880
Speaker 2: big fights in the future. So get fired up because

2445
01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:35,960
Speaker 2: we're going to go back into that kitchen and start cooking.

2446
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 2: And you know when we do that, Luca gets gets

2447
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:39,760
Speaker 2: pretty saucy in there, and I like it.

2448
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:40,759
Speaker 1: Like that it gets spicy.

2449
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:42,720
Speaker 3: We have some fun stuff planned for you guys, so

2450
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 3: that being on the lookout for that.

2451
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:46,360
Speaker 2: All right, then I go on vacation, Luke, and then

2452
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:48,519
Speaker 2: you're all alone, and then you go on vacation, and

2453
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 2: then I'm all alone. And you know, we really plan

2454
01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 2: that horrifically, dude.

2455
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:55,280
Speaker 3: We have to do it when our kids go on

2456
01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 3: for spring break. I don't have a choice anymore for

2457
01:49:57,160 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 3: the next fourteen years. I'm locked into that. So yay,

2458
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:05,240
Speaker 3: all right, for Brian Campbell, for Malka, for our good

2459
01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:08,880
Speaker 3: friend and producer Mikey Morms from CBS. Everyone at CBS.

2460
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:11,479
Speaker 3: That's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas. Thank you all so

2461
01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:13,439
Speaker 3: much for watching Catch you on Friday, and until then

2462
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:14,839
Speaker 3: they all of your gains.

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01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:15,559
Speaker 1: Be loyal.