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Speaker 1: Too Much Information is a production of My Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to Too Much Information, the show

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Speaker 1: that brings you the secret histories and little known fascinating

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Speaker 1: facts and figures behind your favorite TV shows, movies, music,

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Speaker 1: and more. We are your trivial trio. I'm Alex Heigel

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Speaker 1: and I'm Jordan Runtalk and welcome to Jackass. Someone had

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Speaker 1: to do it. I'm sorry. Well, in that daring spirit

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Speaker 1: of adventure, Jordan, we have our first ever guest on

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Speaker 1: the program. I am not going to risk death and

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Speaker 1: dismemberment by having her hair, but I'm very excited. Today's

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Speaker 1: guest on our program is Maggie Coglin. Maggie was my

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Speaker 1: editor at both People Magazine and Page six at The

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Speaker 1: New York Post, for which I would like to apologize. Maggie,

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Speaker 1: where are you know? I am at Vanity Fair now

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Speaker 1: overseeing the Vanity section of the website. So it's anything

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Speaker 1: you read about, like Ebody's Royals, beauty style fashion that's

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Speaker 1: all kind of in my wheelhouse. Recently interviewed one of

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Speaker 1: my heroes, Yen's Leachman, the Swedish pop musician I named

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Speaker 1: my college radio show Saturday Night to Drive in Bingo

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Speaker 1: after him. So you are a goddess in my eyes.

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Speaker 1: Were so happy to have well, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: I listened to you guys all the time. So this

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Speaker 1: is a true honor. Jordan, that's so funny. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know that about he was going to come by the

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Speaker 1: conservatory and do a bunch of stuff with students. Really

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Speaker 1: and then and then I was over the spring. It

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Speaker 1: was over COVID. But that's what inspired my story. I

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Speaker 1: saw him when he was doing the tour with student

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Speaker 1: orchestras and they were wearing super cool jumpsuits and did

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Speaker 1: a whole story about it. He's a very interesting guy.

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Speaker 1: He was very good over email. I have to say,

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Speaker 1: considering a decade plus of doing my job over email,

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Speaker 1: he was a delight. Um. Okay, so today we are

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Speaker 1: talking about one of the most durable franchises in TV

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Speaker 1: and film history, the Black Eyes, that launched a thousand

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Speaker 1: ships and sent innumerable young and impressionable men. I largely

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Speaker 1: have to assume they were man. Yeah, maybe you can

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Speaker 1: That's right, we are talking about jackass. Maggie. When we

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Speaker 1: send you a list of possible topic episodes. You kind

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Speaker 1: of jumped at this one as much as one can.

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Speaker 1: Why was that? I mean, I want to say that,

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Speaker 1: for anyone. And when this new movie Jackass Forever came out,

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Speaker 1: I laughed so hard I was crying. And the fact

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Speaker 1: years later, I was like, man, do you love this

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Speaker 1: So there's that. But I also kind of grew up

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Speaker 1: like do you remember, like really sorry, like that video?

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Speaker 1: Alex you worked with her too. She did a big

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Speaker 1: Johnny Knoxville along the way. Here's everything you didn't know

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Speaker 1: really great point. Yeah, alright, therapist, don't weigh in. Honest,

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Speaker 1: we like Maggie here, do your role for you. Uh.

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Speaker 1: bulletproof vest. The segment went out as part of the

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Speaker 1: second Big Brother video, and Tremaine was convinced they had

425
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Speaker 1: the roots of a TV show in their hands. Of

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Speaker 1: all the things he'd go on to do, Johnny Knoxville

427
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: told Benny fair At the pepper spray is quote still

428
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: one of the most painful things I've ever entered in

429
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: my life because it's continuous hell for fifteen to twenty minutes.

430
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: I think his quote in the video was, I feel

431
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Speaker 1: like my eyes have gone a Rhea so eloquent. He's

432
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how. I don't think I've

433
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: ever seen a single movie he's in with as a

434
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: dramatic actor, but his comic timing and that show is incredible.

435
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: The best one, bar none is when Butter Bean beats

436
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: the out of him in Tokyo and he's like holding

437
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: what's left of his face together and just hear him,

438
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 1: go is butter being okay? Oh man? So the crew

439
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 1: basically decides to remove all the skateboarding from the Big

440
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: Brother videos and use that as a demo reel to

441
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 1: take to a bunch of networks. Their meeting with HBO

442
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 1: went terribly. Tremaine says that the two women he met

443
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Speaker 1: with were offended and just disgusted by what we had

444
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Speaker 1: shown them, but mt If he loved it and they

445
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: wanted it right away. What I find interesting about this

446
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: whole moment is that SNL wanted to give Johnny Knoxville

447
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: a recurring like pranks and stunts segment, but they wouldn't

448
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: take any of the rest of the gang, and so

449
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: he was like, no, it's all for one and one

450
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: for all and turned Lauren Michaels down, and he's regretted

451
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Speaker 1: it ever since, Lauren chooses to believe. Apparently, Lauren Michaels

452
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Speaker 1: went to l A and took Johnny Knoxville to lunch

453
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Speaker 1: at the Polar Room at the Beverly Hills Hotel and

454
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Speaker 1: offer them five minutes to do. I can't do it,

455
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Speaker 1: Lauren Michaels, do what you do, like in very doctor

456
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Speaker 1: evil voice, which just such a hilarious image of like

457
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Speaker 1: Lauren Michaels and Johnny Knoxville at the Polar Room there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Van Tuffler, president of MTV Networks at the time, told

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Speaker 1: maxim for their oral history, we just knew they were

460
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Speaker 1: a bunch of knuckleheads out there who had a very

461
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Speaker 1: high tolerance for stupidity and pain. I mean, MTV had

462
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Speaker 1: just ended The Tom Green Show in March of two

463
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Speaker 1: thousand and acas I think premiered in October, so I

464
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: wonder if they were like looking to fill the Tom

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Speaker 1: Green spot of like fratty gross out, you know, messing

466
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Speaker 1: with the public type humor stuff. Mm hmm. That tracks

467
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: um so with the show greenlit. Tremaine then enlists the

468
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Speaker 1: c k Y contingent and they are off to the races.

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Speaker 1: The proverbial shopping cart races. Dave England brought in his

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Speaker 1: friend Aaron mcgahey. I think that's how you pronounced that

471
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Speaker 1: guy's name. I've never been a hundred percent on it.

472
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 1: And Preston Lacey also came aboard. He had Knoxville met

473
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Speaker 1: while auditioning for commercial together, which is just adorable. And

474
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Speaker 1: he started out as a writer for for the show

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Speaker 1: before they got him on camera, which I'm sure he

476
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Speaker 1: regrets in case their bond forged in blood and fecal

477
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: matter and vomit. Uh doesn't make it immediately apparent. These

478
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Speaker 1: guys were kindred spirits in a way that the rest

479
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: of us will truly never understand. Jimmy Kimmel, who's a

480
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Speaker 1: close friend of Johnny Knoxville, tells the story of visiting

481
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Speaker 1: the Jackass offices. He said, it was Knoxville and Spike

482
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: Jones and a producer and they all have black eyes.

483
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,719
Speaker 1: I of course wondered why they had black eyes, and

484
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: they explained that they had to take their lot. I

485
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Speaker 1: d photos a little car that gets you onto the

486
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Speaker 1: production lot, and they wanted to make sure they had

487
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: black eyes for their pictures. So they punched each other

488
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: in the face for an, I d this was not

489
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: part of the movie or the show. This is just

490
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Speaker 1: three crazy people, and you know, a Jackass wasn't even

491
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: the first name that they wanted for it. Apparently, Bam

492
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Speaker 1: mar Jara's mom, April, told Rolling Stone that she was

493
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Speaker 1: just all aghast at that title until Bam told her

494
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Speaker 1: they originally just wanted to call it asshole. I love

495
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: that because I recently rewatched the first movie and there

496
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: is a skit where they put an alligator, a giant

497
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Speaker 1: alligator in her kitchen. She comes home and opens the door,

498
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Speaker 1: and at the end of it, she's more mortified by

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Speaker 1: the thought that she might have said on camera than

500
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Speaker 1: the fact that these people put an alligator in her house.

501
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: And she's like, oh my god, what did I say?

502
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's very sweet. Yeah, she's such a

503
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: sweet woman. Interestingly enough, they might have dodged this next

504
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: problem by actually naming the show asshole, because one of

505
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: the lawsuits that was connected to the show was from

506
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: an electrical lineman in Montana with the legal name of

507
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: jack Ass two Words, who in two thousand two sued

508
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: Viacom for plagiarizing and defaming his name for ten million dollars.

509
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,479
Speaker 1: He born Bob Kraft. He changed his name in nineteen

510
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: seventy seven, years after his brother's death in a car accident.

511
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: He created a cartoon character and the Ass to Crusade

512
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 1: and when she feels like I could have gone the

513
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: second round of notes there uh to Crusade against drunk driving.

514
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: Via two websites and a not for profit organization called

515
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: Hearts Across America, he promoted designated driving and personal responsibility

516
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: with slogans like be a smartass, not a dumbass. No

517
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: no notes on that, Yeah, that's good. His case against

518
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: via Combo was eventually dismissed. Sorry about that, Jack, is

519
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: impossible to divorce the show from Corona, the minutements song

520
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: the show always began with, though crucially without lyrics. The

521
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: lead singer and guitarists of the pioneering California punk band

522
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: Dee Boon Quote wrote that one on a trip to Mexico.

523
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: The band's basis, Mike Watt explained the louder sound this year,

524
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: after all the drinking and the partying. The morning after,

525
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 1: there's a lady picking up bottles to turn them in

526
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: to get moneys for her babies. It really touched him sadly.

527
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 1: A year after the album, Corona was released on the

528
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: certifiable punk classic double Nickels on the Dime came out

529
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: boone would die in a car accident. When I hear

530
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: that he plays those motifs, that kind of MARRIATCHI. I mean,

531
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: it's just everything for me, Wat said Dee Boon in

532
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: that song. It really means a lot. Music was personal

533
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: with us. It's how we were together, and then the

534
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: punk movement, let us do it in front of people. Maggie,

535
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: do you read um? Our band could be your life? No?

536
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: Oh man, there's such a chapter in the minutement on there.

537
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: It is so really cute. Mike Watt and Dee Boon

538
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: really loved each other there. They're such a fascinating band

539
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: to me. They are kind of a real outlier in

540
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: that whole So col punk scene. They were really smart guys.

541
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: They have a bunch of songs about like American interventionism

542
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: in Latin American countries, like and it's just so funny

543
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: to me that they picked Corona to me the Jackass

544
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 1: theme song U. But yeah, go listen a minute, man,

545
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way you can hear those chords

546
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: withoutout thinking of jackets. It's so part of the DNA

547
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: as you meditate on that. We'll be right back with more,

548
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: too much information after these messages. Predictably for a concept

549
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: that was moving from a loose conglomeration of pals shooting

550
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: in their backyards and parking lots to a major network

551
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: television show, there were some growing pain. Tremaine told Stevo

552
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: to compile some of his footage and send it to MTV,

553
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: and not a single concept Stevo had cleared the network.

554
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: He would say, we weren't allowed to play with fire,

555
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: and I was always on fire. We weren't allowed to

556
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 1: jump off stuff higher than a certain height, and I

557
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: was always on fire and jumping off stuff from two

558
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: ye MTV eventually assigned an Ocean rep to the show,

559
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: which they said was the beginning of the end um. Well,

560
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: now we get into some of these skits that never aired,

561
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,239
Speaker 1: although I did think they all came out on the

562
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Speaker 1: DVD release. There was one called the Vommelet. I'm like,

563
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, have you seen it? Have you guys seen it?

564
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: Do you remember it? Okay? Dave England ate all the

565
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: ingredients of an omelet regurgitated them into a frying pan

566
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: and then fed it to Stevo. MTV objected to it

567
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: on the grounds that they hadn't shown that the omelet

568
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: had been cooked to the proper cooking temperature of a

569
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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty degrees And then they I love, that's

570
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: where the buck stop. Yeah, it's basic, it's basic food safety.

571
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: You come on and h Then they made the other

572
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: participants were hazmat suits. So I have a question, and

573
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: I don't know which answer I want to hear. Was

574
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: Stevo aware that the omelet ingredients were vomited up by

575
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: one of his colleagues. I don't know if it's better

576
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: or worse that he didn't know, but I think he's

577
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: it's like happening in front of him. Oh okay, I

578
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: say that as if it's a relief. I okay. These

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00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: Occupational Safety and Health Administration officers, they really had their

580
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: work cut off form. One of the many things that

581
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: they wouldn't let the group do was use actual human

582
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: fecal matter during productions, so they had the substitute dog

583
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: and horse poop for stuff like the Pooh Cocktail Supreme,

584
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: where they sling shots Stevo into the air while sitting

585
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: in a porta potty in Jackass three D. And for

586
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: those of you keeping track at home, you can cross

587
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: off human fecal matter off your t M I Bingo card. Yeah.

588
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: If I can make it through this episode without puking,

589
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to be really impressed. Well, the next test

590
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: is going to be the injury list. For me. It's

591
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: all about the paper cuts. We'll get to that paper cut. No, no, okay.

592
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: Another another early prank that didn't make it to air.

593
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorites. Actually. It's when Knoxville runs

594
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: into a hardware story where an orange l a County

595
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: jail jumpsuit with handcuffs and starts asking the people in

596
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: the store for help with saws and axes. Funny, that's

597
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: like almost quite, that's funny. Yeah, And but predicularly they

598
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: called the cops who rolled up and held knock till

599
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: a gun point out in the street. And then apparently

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00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: the cop cruiser rolled into a lamp pole because the

601
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: officer forgot to put it in park. So, I mean,

602
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: even their arrests basically turned into Jackass kits. I'll just

603
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: say is this is a lucky thing. All those boys

604
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: were white Uh, Stevo told Hot Ones recently. The first

605
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: time he got arrested for a stunt, he was quote

606
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: charged formally with a felony for obscenity in Louisiana for

607
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: stapling my nutsack to my leg. I mean, while we're

608
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: on the topic, let's do a quick Stevo arrest lightning

609
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: round shellery. The second time Stevo was arrested was in

610
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: two thousand three, when he filmed himself swallowing a condom

611
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: full of cannabis in order to get it past authorities

612
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: while flying to Sweden. Who among us? But then he

613
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: regurgitated it live on stage. I'm not really sure at

614
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: what point he was arrested. Probably I guess after bombing

615
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 1: up weed on stage that probably would do it now

616
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: that I think about it. Um. Two months later, he

617
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: was arrested for disorderly conduct after urinating on potato chips

618
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: in public during a Lallapalooza tour stop in Pennsylvania. But

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Speaker 1: they ut they come so near chips, you're your central

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Speaker 1: p A B. I'm trying to figure out what kind

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Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania who I have to avenge for doing that.

622
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: Martin's Heartley's um and then he also faced the fine

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00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: for altar ring the sign for sea World on the

624
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: San Diego Highway to read sea World sucks, I guess

625
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: because he's an animal rights activist and he wanted to,

626
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: in his words, put his foot down for Shambo. Another

627
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: one of these kids that never made it to air

628
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: was one in which Johnny Knoxville was taped into a

629
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: cardboard box full of pillows and pushed down some concrete stairs.

630
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: Another was when he shot himself with the smith and wesson,

631
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: and the third one was, as Stevo explained to First

632
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Speaker 1: we Feast quote he said, I'm Johnny Knoxville and I'm

633
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: going to get hit by a car real soon, which

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Speaker 1: is maybe my favorite introduction to one of these. It's

635
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Speaker 1: so perfect. And as Stevo says, the car just came flying,

636
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: he went through the windshield, rolled over. They asked him

637
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: what were you thinking when you got hit by a car,

638
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: and his answer was I wore two pairs of jeans

639
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: so that I'd be safe. Yeah, exactly, man. I love

640
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: the whole Hello, my name is I guess they apparently

641
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: got that I'm Johnny Cash from like listening to to Lives. Yeah, Um,

642
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: I just love that because there's been so many times

643
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: in my life where I'm doing really one Dane stuff

644
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Hi, I'm Maggie Coglan, and this is

645
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: washing the dishes, Like just you gotta just power through it,

646
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: and you set yourself up with that little delivery, and

647
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: it makes things a lot more fun, it does it. Really,

648
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: it's the little things, the energy Um. The show is

649
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: obviously a runaway success. Following its second episode in October

650
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: two tho, MTV notched its highest Sunday ratings in its history,

651
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: but with that came increased scrutiny on what the gang

652
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: was doing. Yeah. The original warning at the start of

653
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: the show was pretty lighthearted. It said Jackass features stunts

654
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: performed by professionals and or total idiots. MTV insists that

655
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: neither of you or any of your dumb little buddies

656
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: attempt the dangerous crap in this show. But then they

657
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: change it to something a little less flippant once they

658
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 1: started getting words of kids hurting themselves by imitating these stunts. Yeah,

659
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: without getting two GHOL issues a quick run down. UM

660
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 1: January two thousand one, a Connecticut team named Eric Lynn

661
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: accidentally sets himself on fire imitating his stunts. In two

662
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,479
Speaker 1: thousand two, fifteen year old from Alburquerque died after being

663
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: thrown from a car and dragged underneath it, attempting to

664
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: imitate a stunt from the first Jackass movie, according to

665
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: Albuquerque police. In two thousand eleven, Michael Smith used his

666
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: suv to tow his friend, who was sitting behind it

667
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: in a shopping cart, and unfortunately the cart hit a bump,

668
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: catapulted his friend into the air, and he died. His

669
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: father had said that the kid had been a Jackass fan. Uh,

670
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: this is probably the most sinister one. This kid from

671
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: New Zealand, Matt Dillon Shannon was sentenced to three years

672
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: in prison in November two twelve on a charge of

673
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: causing grievous bodily harm for his role in an incident

674
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: from the previous year in which a sixteen year old

675
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: was dowsed with gasoline and set on fire. H Shannon's

676
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: lawyer claimed that this was inspired by the Jackass series,

677
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: despite the fact that no such stunt ever aired on

678
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: the show. So maybe jury's out on that one. Well,

679
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: Jerry's not out. The guys in prison, so or wasn't

680
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: prison So Jerry's on the Internet. Jury's out. STEVO on

681
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: the Hot Boxing with Mike Tyson podcast in June, which

682
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: to be able to we were a fly on that wall.

683
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: We got the podcast, but when the cameras stopped rolling,

684
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: that's when I want to see Steve O and Mike

685
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: Tyson hanging out. He said, we were genuinely worth vilifying

686
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: because back then they didn't have YouTube or video on

687
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: the Internet, and we were legitimately a bad influence. When

688
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: Jackass came out, little kids were showing up in hospitals

689
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: all over the country and maybe the world because they

690
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: saw us doing this crazy and wanted to do it themselves.

691
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: So it being an election year, Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman, Yes,

692
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: Joe Lieberman new friend of the Pod. Joe Lieberman. Everyone

693
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: who appears on the podcast, whether or not they did

694
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: a good or bad thing, has become a friend of

695
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: the pod. By the way, you all may remember him

696
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: as Al Gore's running mate. In two thousand, he singled

697
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: out Jackass and TV in a statement decrying the state

698
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: of film and television, saying it is irresponsible for MTV

699
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: to air these kinds of stunts on a program clearly

700
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: popular with young teens, but Stevo said there wasn't ever

701
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: an actual big lawsuit, but there was just the fear

702
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: of one. So MTV's reaction was to start not approving

703
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: for us to film. Chris Pontius gave an example. He said,

704
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: if we were filming and we had to step off

705
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: the sidewalk and you couldn't see the street was blocked off,

706
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 1: they wouldn't let us use the shot. Uh. Dave England

707
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: would say after every single episode would get a list

708
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: of at least twelve to fifteen notes from the lawyers

709
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: saying you can no longer do this, this, this, or this.

710
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: According and Johnny Knoxville, the network would the longer let

711
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: them jump off of anything taller than four ft um

712
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: and MTV moved the show to later in the evening

713
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: from nine PM the ten PM to try to get

714
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 1: an older audience. And plus I think just the network

715
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: went quiet on Jackass and pulled back on promoting the show.

716
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: According to Spike Owns and this uh defanging, I guess,

717
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: is probably the only word I could think of, for

718
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: it would ultimately spell the end of the show. And

719
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: that's why they ended up moving into movies where they

720
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: could do more and have it be rated are so

721
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have to worry about kids of an impressionable

722
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: age seeing what they were doing. Yeah, so now we

723
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: have to get into some of the darker side of Jackass.

724
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: It's not all bulls ramming into your testicles and upended

725
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: porta potties. There's also a downside um eron, Aaron mcgaiey

726
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: told The Post in was this the article that Chelsea

727
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: wrote Maggie, I believe that he had had twenty five

728
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: surgeries as a result of his work on the franchise,

729
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: including nine knee surgeries and three broken backs. Rab himself

730
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: had to pull out of Jackass, he said in the

731
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: same piece, I didn't do the second and third movies.

732
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: I got paranoid about friends, and I got darker into

733
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: drugs and drinking and wanting to be alone. And this

734
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: is definitely something that many other members of the cast

735
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: have struggled with, most notably and lickally Bam march Era.

736
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's very sad because out of all of

737
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: the Jackass guys, Bam had all these spinoffs. Do you

738
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: remember that he had like BAM's One Holy Union, which

739
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: is supposed to follow him to his wedding and you know,

740
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: in and out of reality TV stuff. So basically Bam

741
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: was in his early twenties when Jackass first began. If

742
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: you watched like the early stuff, he looks so young,

743
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: and he's had quite a rough couple of years. He

744
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: lost his best friend and fellow member of the Jackass crew,

745
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: Ryan Dunne, in a drunk driving accident in June, and

746
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: since then it seems like he's been arrested and in

747
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: and out of rehab repeatedly, and TMZ and other sites

748
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: are kind of clocking his every move. Leading up to

749
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: Jackass Forever's release back in May of this year, there

750
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: was a ton of drama surrounding Bam. He took issue

751
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: with being fired from the film because of his addiction issues,

752
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 1: and he sued Johnny Knoxville and the company as a result. Yeah,

753
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: he posted these really upsetting videos the Instagram that I

754
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: think have since been deleted, claiming that he was subjected

755
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: to these, in his eyes, pretty draconian rules after being

756
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: forced to sign a wellness pledge, and this included blowing

757
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: into a breathalyzer three times a day, submitting to a

758
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: your analysis test twice a week, having his hair follicles

759
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 1: tested on a regular basis and taking antidepression medication every

760
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: morning while on a FaceTime call with the doctor hired

761
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: by the studio, plus apparently checking into not one but

762
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: two treatment facilities with his own money, and he alleged

763
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: he was fired from the production after testing positive for adderall,

764
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: which he says he takes to treat his attention deficit disorder.

765
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: So all in all, a really complicated, unpleasant, sad situation.

766
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: So back to that Hot Boxing with Mike Tyson interview

767
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: that we referenced earlier, Stevo Cevo explained how the Jackass

768
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: grew felt about Band being let go from the movie,

769
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: saying the way that Jackass treated Band by making him

770
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: take drug tests, by telling him that his contract required

771
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: him to be sober for the movie, what that was

772
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: was that I loved him, They cared about him. And

773
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Speaker 1: it's the same exact people who organized an intervention which

774
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: saved my life. Yeah, I mean, I really do feel

775
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: for the guy. He said that one of his relapse

776
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: has occurred when he went on a trip to Columbia

777
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: in August. He hailed a cab at the airport and

778
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: the driver pulled a gun on him, and he didn't

779
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: speak English, so that this driver apparently took out his

780
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 1: phone and typed empty your wallet and typed it in

781
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: the Google Translate, just held out the phone for Bam

782
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: to read while also pulling a gun at him with

783
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: the other hand. So, I mean, yeah, poor guy, he's

784
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: apparently after this trauma that he uh kind of sparked

785
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: a relapse. So in a recent g Q profile, Johnny

786
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: Knoxville gets apparently visibly emotional when Bam is mentioned, So

787
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: clearly they care about the guy a great deal, so

788
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: prayers up for Bam. Addiction was one of the occupational

789
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: hazards for the Jackass crew. Johnny Knoxville himself has speculated

790
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: that the work that they do attracts a certain kind

791
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: of adrenaline junkie who was often more susceptible to substance abuse.

792
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: But from a practical standpoint, the frequent injuries result in

793
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: frequent prescriptions for painkillers, which, as we all know living

794
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: in America in two, are notoriously difficult to wean off of.

795
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: A fascinating and harrowing page six story by Chelsea Hirsch

796
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: Fromen featured this insight from one time jack as performer

797
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 1: Chris Rob a k Rob himself. If you got hurt,

798
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: you were like, oh, I can just take a pill

799
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: for that. I broke my ankle, I need this, And

800
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: then you justify it to yourself. If you broke your arm,

801
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: you need another pain killer too, And before you know it,

802
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: you're just so caught up in it. Then what happens

803
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: is people are like, Rob, you have a drinking problem.

804
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: You're doing too many drugs, and you're like, I'm not

805
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 1: as bad as this person and this person, and you're

806
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: surrounded by a bunch of drug addicts and alcoholics and

807
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: you're just pointing the fingers at each other. Pretty dark. Yes,

808
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: Stevo had been as has been sober for like fourteen years,

809
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: I think I read in the press run up for

810
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: the new film, So good for him. Um back into

811
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: the lighter realm of genital mutilation. Um. It should come

812
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: as no surprise is that Johnny Knoxville has suffered a

813
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: lot over the years. As he said many times, half

814
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: as stuntmen don't think long term. He suffered sixteen concussions

815
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: throughout this franchise, and study from Nova Legal Funding claimed

816
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: that the Jackass crew has accumulated around twenty four million

817
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: dollars in medical costs over the course of their careers.

818
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: The study is really incredible. They actually go line by

819
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: line by each cast member itemizing their injuries. It's pretty thorough. Uh. Predictably,

820
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: Johnny Knoxville has the most. His medical expenses cost and

821
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: estimated eight point six six million, following a number of

822
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: extremely intention injuries, including an alligator bite which cost a

823
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: hundred grand, the sixteen concussions which all told four million,

824
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: and a scalped head a hundred and fifty grand. I

825
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: don't know what that was for. His single most expensive bill, however,

826
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: was one of his more recent injuries during filming for

827
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Speaker 1: Jackass Forever, in which he suffered a brain hemorrhage that

828
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: costs two point five million during a stunt involving a bull,

829
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Speaker 1: which we'll talk more about shortly. The comedic masochist as

830
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 1: he calls himself, has been hit by a riot control mine,

831
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Speaker 1: knocked unconscious by a four hundred pound heavyweight boxer called

832
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: butter Bean which you mentioned earlier, and molled by bulls

833
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: on multiple occasions. And let's not forget the time while

834
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: he was filming Jackass three D that he had one

835
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: of his teeth knocked out by a flying sex toy.

836
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: The boxing thing, I guess had serious long term effects.

837
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: The concussion from getting punched by butter Bean gave him vertigo,

838
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: and for years he got the spins whenever he turned

839
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: to make turns in his car when he was driving,

840
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: and so for years he had to take turns really slow,

841
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: and thankfully, I guess he got medication to correct it.

842
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 1: But damn ah. Yeah, another injury that stuck with Knoxville.

843
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 1: And this is funny didn't even happen in the course

844
00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: of a jackass. Is it funny? Tragic? Um? Yeah. So

845
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: a friend was filming in an MTV tribute to Evil Kinevil,

846
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: one of Knoxville's heroes, and this was in two thousand eight.

847
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: He tells g Q that he was visiting the set

848
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: one day and quote, I wasn't even supposed to do anything.

849
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: I think I just showed up that day and someone

850
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: kind of threw out that I should try and back

851
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: from the motorcycle, which warning sign if somebody just pitches

852
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: that to you on the visit your first day to

853
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: a set, you want to try enough motorcycle? No, No,

854
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: The answer is always no, And I'm like Oh yeah,

855
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: I got that. Of course, he says, let's give it

856
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: a whirl. What's the worst that can happen. It's not

857
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: like I'm going to break my dick or something. And

858
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: then you get the narrator voice. This is exactly what happened.

859
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: The stunt coordinator, Warren Knoxville, who could not drive a motorcycle.

860
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: This both surprises me but also doesn't surprises me for

861
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: the sake of this anecdote. Of course he would agree,

862
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: despite the fact that he can't ride the vehicle. The

863
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: guy says, or whatever you do, just don't like go

864
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 1: of the bike in mid air because it's heavier than

865
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: you it you know, it can fall on you. Uh.

866
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: And during the fourth take of the stunt, that is

867
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: exactly what happened, Knoxville told People magazine. The bike goes

868
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: about fifteen ft in the air, comes down and breaks

869
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: off the handlebar on my crotch. The doctor said, a

870
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: couple of centimeters down and it would have been out

871
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: of commission. But I've had two children there since then,

872
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: so it's in great working order. On his way to

873
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: the hospital, he apparently moaned the paramedics, I injured. The

874
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: only body part that needs anything to me, ah Man.

875
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: Part of his recovery for that was self administering a

876
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: catheter twice a day, every day for the next of years.

877
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is the best or the

878
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: worst time to ask this question, but does this man

879
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: have an Emmy? Because I almost feel like he kind

880
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: of deserves it. Did the Oscar noms come out? Yeah?

881
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: His Jackass forever up for Best Picture and Actor and

882
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: Supporting Actor and Actress, and it should sweep. Honestly, it's

883
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: been a pretty weak year from movies. M give it

884
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: to give it to Jackass. On the slightly sweeter side,

885
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: Johnny Knoxell's love of evil Kinevil is kind of adorable.

886
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: Evil had a great expression that Johnny Knoxville co opted.

887
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to see me die, but they don't want

888
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: to miss it if I do. That's pretty good. I mean,

889
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll be on this team, yeah, which will

890
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: be in the shape of like the crossed crutches and

891
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: the skull um. The motorcycle incident wasn't the first time

892
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: that trying a new scale backfired on Old Johnny knox

893
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: In the show's second episode, he attempted to jump a

894
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: portion of the l A River on roller skates despite

895
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: having never ridden roller skates before. And you can see this.

896
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: All the b roll from that is him stumbling around

897
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: like a baby deer on roller skates which are not

898
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: there's there's a learning curve to them. He fractured his

899
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: ankle and consequently, for the rest of that season can

900
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: be seen in a cast and on crutches. And then

901
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: there was a time I actually came here if it

902
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: was that season or one of the movies, that he

903
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: super glued his face onto BAM's father Phil's Harry chest,

904
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: only to realize after the fact that he couldn't breathe

905
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: anything but super glue fumes and nearly passed out. Just

906
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: such a comedy of airs. Oh, Maggie, do you want

907
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: to tell us about the bull? Oh? Yes, sure, that

908
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: would be my pleasure. And when making the most recent

909
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: film in which he has a run in pun intended

910
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: with a ball aka that bulls named Mr Mean And

911
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: so listen to quote who is at Maya Angelo When

912
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: someone tells you who they are the first time believed them,

913
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: his name is Mr Means. Do not get around that.

914
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: Bo I was waiting to see who's going to bring

915
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: my Angelou into the conversation on Jackass. I'm happy he's

916
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: got guest, So excuse me. I believe that's when someone

917
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 1: shows you that they are God tells me, you know. Anyway,

918
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: So he has a run with Mr Mean this Bull

919
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: who sent him flying into the air, and Johnny told

920
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: Howard during this year that he suffered a brain hemorrhage

921
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 1: and a neurosurgeon tested his attention after he sustained the injury,

922
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: and he only scored seventeen out of a hundred. Yeah,

923
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: that's that's that's really not that's bad. And honestly, I

924
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't be telling people that I kind of continue to

925
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 1: um in any worth, mentioning that he obtained this injury

926
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 1: while trying to do a magic trick for Mr. Mean

927
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: the Bull. It's a great scene. I mean, it's it's

928
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 1: so I feel so bad laughing, but it's so funny.

929
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: In the press cycle for Jackass Forever, Johnny Knoxtell talked

930
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 1: extensively about his apparent brain damage. Is there his words?

931
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: He told Howard Stern Mike cognitive abilities were in steep

932
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 1: decline after that hit, which he's classified as the worst

933
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: injury of his career. He also said the injury not

934
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: only impacted his focus, but also made him severely depressed

935
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: and over focused on things, which he thankfully treated with

936
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: the combination of medication and therapy. But the injury understandably

937
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: freaked him out, and he said that Jackass Forever is

938
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: almost certainly the last Jackass film. He told g Q,

939
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: I can't afford to have any more concussions. I can't

940
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: put my family through that. And uh, God, Shohnny Knoxville

941
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: and bulls, I mean, you know, he's like like he's

942
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: Captain a Hab and the bulls are his Moby Dick.

943
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: He's faced off against them in numerous stunts dating back

944
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: to his Big Brother days, and he said in the

945
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: same g Q interview, this truly beautiful quote about bulls.

946
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: You know exactly what you're gonna get with bulls, very

947
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: much like Maya Angelu said, they hate you. They hate

948
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: anything that moves. If you're moving, they get very angry.

949
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,280
Speaker 1: And whether you're a person or an inanimate object moves,

950
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: bulls want to make it stop moving. But he also,

951
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: you know, as with Captain Ahab and Moby Dick, there's

952
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: a begrudging respect between Johnny not So and the bulls.

953
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: These bulls are he he res he relates to them

954
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: in a way. Johnny Nuxwill says that he relates to

955
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: the bulls in a certain way because they are, in

956
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: his words, born performers. There's a respect he has for them.

957
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it goes the other way around. That's fair. Um.

958
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: He is not alone when it comes to grotesque injuries, however,

959
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: to the bathing suit area. Uh. Aaron mcgae has a

960
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: testicle related trauma story related to the stunt that he

961
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: did in Jackass Forever. He said, quote the doctor said,

962
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: I probably won't be able to have children because I

963
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: exploded my testicle. Let's gonna let that hang there, and

964
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: then the blood that it doesn't hang so well anymore. Uh,

965
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: And then the blood was going into where the semen is,

966
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: he told screen ran in February, And once that happens,

967
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: it kills the seamen forever, and then you'll never have

968
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: a child. But happy ending. I proved him wrong because

969
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 1: I had a child while filming Jackass Forever. I can't

970
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: I can't really articulate why, but I read that entire

971
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: quote like a blink on two song lyric like I

972
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: heard Tom DeLong in my head singing that yeah and

973
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: the name of that song would be happy and oh

974
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: my god, I love that. The first Jackass movie and

975
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: maybe even the future ones, they weren't even insured as

976
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: a whole production, I'm guessing because that would have cost

977
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: too much. They just went stunt by stunt and Steve Oh,

978
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: the show's resident vomitter, revealed during a Reddit m a

979
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: that all of his gross out food and vomit segments

980
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: led him to contract something called Barrett's esophagus, which he

981
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 1: described as quote a pre cancerous condition in my third

982
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: slash esophagus for which I blame all my vomiting, drug abuse,

983
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: and generally bad living in the past few years. Um,

984
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 1: they drowned, and now they're in the find out portion

985
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: of the program. Um. You know. There really seems to

986
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: be no limit to what the Jackass crew won't do,

987
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: But apparently they do have a limit. Stevo told Vice

988
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: that he won't try anything that would put my spinal

989
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: cord or my life in jeopardy. Paralysis and death are

990
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: not on the table. Johnny Knoxville tries to avoid cold

991
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: weather or cold water. He says he hates speedoes because

992
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: he's too self conscious Um. He summed up his stunt

993
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: preferences by saying, quote, I don't do too much gross stuff.

994
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: I like more of the things that deal with gravity

995
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: and blunt forest trauma. Blunt force trauma is his kink,

996
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:49,919
Speaker 1: okay Um bammar jare I meanwhile, quote felt weird about

997
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: anything that required him to get naked. It's very sweet

998
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: that these guys like actually chased in a certain way.

999
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: There there are boundaries here, that's what. And Bam also

1000
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: says he prefers not to deal with bulls, presumably after

1001
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: a career of watching Johnny Knoxville deal with bulls. Um

1002
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: and Chris Pontia said quote, I don't ever want to

1003
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: do anything mean all it's supposed to just be mean

1004
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: to us. That's the only rule that's very nice. Uh.

1005
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: We touched on this earlier. I just have two words

1006
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 1: for you all right now. Paper cuts. Yeah, I put

1007
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: my hands over my eyes during the Maggie what's your

1008
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: what's your least favorite? But also I'm so squeamish, and uh,

1009
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: anything with bodily fluids or that of an animal, I'm

1010
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: instantly gagging and having to cover my eyes and then

1011
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: looking through them, and well, you guys are not alone.

1012
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: The cameraman, Lance Bangs, who is seen a lot more

1013
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: than either of you, two have nearly passed out as

1014
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: a result of that piece. And fun fact, Lance Bangs

1015
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: is married to Karin Tucker, who was in Slater kidding,

1016
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: I did not know that. Yeah, I love that. Um

1017
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 1: mine is you know what's mine? With Sabby Snooters? Really?

1018
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, just because there's so much puking, Like

1019
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: he's just immediately like curled up on the floor like

1020
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: wretching repeatedly. I was just like, why did you expect

1021
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: I have a I shouldn't share this in public. I

1022
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 1: shouldn't share this to either of you, my dear friend

1023
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: and my new friend who's still forming a new impression

1024
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: to me, but I will. Um. It was finals week

1025
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: my senior year of college, and I had one of

1026
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: those awful like headaches where you just can't think. Everything

1027
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: in my sinuses and him was just clogged. And I

1028
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: was desperate, like I had all this stuff to do

1029
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: for you know, final studying and final papers and stuff,

1030
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: and so I went down to the dining hall and

1031
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: got sushi and just was having you know, dinner while

1032
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,760
Speaker 1: I tried to work. And I saw the big glovel

1033
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,720
Speaker 1: with Sabby and thought, I need to clear my scinence

1034
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: is out. I don't know, take one for the team.

1035
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that it was like the super concentrated

1036
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: with Sabby, Like not the kind that they have at restaurants,

1037
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: but just like the kind where you really only need

1038
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. I came to about five minutes later

1039
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: on my bathroom floor, UM, yeah, we're going to take

1040
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: a quick break, but we'll be right back with more

1041
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: too much information in just a moment. And for all

1042
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: of that, the show didn't pay very well, at least

1043
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: to start. Stevo, on his own YouTube channel, said, I

1044
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: didn't make very much money on the first season. I

1045
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: got paid per bit that I shot, and if the

1046
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: bit was dangerous where I could get hurt, I was

1047
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: to be paid five hundred dollars. If it was just

1048
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: kind of funny, I was to be paid two hundred dollars.

1049
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I made less than

1050
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollars after taxes for the entire first season

1051
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: of Jackass. No residuals, no nothing, And by the time

1052
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: the show came out that money was long gone. God

1053
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: and TV man, I mean This is like MTV paid

1054
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,479
Speaker 1: the Osbournees like five thousand an episode for the first

1055
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: season The Osbournees, and it worse. Jersey Shore the cast

1056
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: members were paid in two hundred dollar gift cards to

1057
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: The Shore Story each week and they didn't even get

1058
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: real money. It's like a company is like a company

1059
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: mining town. They've paid him and stuff you can only

1060
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: spend in town. Yeah, like what like sunglasses with like

1061
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: Italian flags on him and stuff. Um, I guess. Even

1062
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: when Jackass made the movies, Stevo said that he only

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00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: got paid sixty five grand for the first one, which

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00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: grossed eighty millions. I hope they negotiated for points on

1065
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: the rest of this. I mean, I hope they're represented

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00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: by powerful Asians at the stage in their career, because

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00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing, at this stage in their career,

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00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: John Knox, you can still get it. I remember seeing

1069
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: that g Q spread. He's just full on silver Fox.

1070
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: I was like, the lady will have to um, yeah,

1071
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: I just love him so much. I always thought he

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00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: was a real cutie cutie Petuti and then he's a

1073
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: real Maggie walk us through the fame years, Oh man,

1074
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: those were glorious years to have an interest in celebrity

1075
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: until later go into it as a career, you know.

1076
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: So Jeff tremain aloud that after the success of the show,

1077
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: some people were handling success better than others. Surprisingly, Stevo

1078
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: was all about fame, he wanted it so bad, whereas

1079
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: Pontius could give two he didn't change at all, and

1080
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: Bam was already kind of the little celebrity in his world.

1081
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: So this brings me to my favorite part of Jackassler,

1082
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: which is Jessica Simpson and Johnny Knoxville's relationship maybe should

1083
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: which maybe ship situ relationship. We don't really know what

1084
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: happened between them, except she gave us the gift that

1085
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: was her memoir Open Book, which I was locked in

1086
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: with during the pandemic. So I read and I read

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01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: and I read, and it's just amazing. So in two

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01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: thousand and five, Johnny Knoxville started Dukes of Hazard in

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01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: the remake as bo Duke, and you might remember Jessica

1090
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: Simpson playing Daisy Duke in the film, and so off

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01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: camera they struck off a pretty interesting relationship while a

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01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: movie was being made. Jessica Simpson was of course married

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01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: to Nick Lash of nine Degrees fame. The relationship was

1094
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: super big for the TRL and the tabloid crowd, and

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01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: they dated for years before marriage. And you might remember

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01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: she spoke about waiting until she was married to Nick

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01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: to lose her virginity. But in her memoir she talks

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01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: about some very romantic scenarios with Johnny. I'm going to

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01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: read a bit from it. So she's recounting an instance

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01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: in which she is kind of pouring her heart out

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01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: to Johnny Knoxville. Here she said, I just feel like

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01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm going through so many changes. I said to Johnny

1103
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: one night over Scotch. It's hard. No change is easy,

1104
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: he said, Staying the same is a lot harder on you.

1105
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: I lifted the maccaalun to toast that and held it

1106
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: in the air, lifting it higher to see him through

1107
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: the amber of the drink. Don't be looking at me

1108
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: through whiskey colored glasses, lady, he said, too. I know,

1109
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,439
Speaker 1: too late. I said, let's just promise to be there

1110
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: for one another in our imminent and during times of

1111
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: trouble and thunder deal. I said, So this is cute

1112
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: and sets the scene. And then later in the book,

1113
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to Readdo. Another clip, she basically tells her

1114
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: best friend Casey Cobb her biggest secret, which is quote

1115
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: that I was still in touch with Johnny Knoxville. We

1116
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: wrote these flowery love letters back and forth, often at night,

1117
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: with Nick passed out in bed next to me. Thank you,

1118
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: that is the appropriate response, oxycle clunching my pearls and

1119
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: you can see me right now. We talked about music,

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01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: and I would listen to the Johnny Cash songs he suggested,

1121
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: just to feel like we were still together. Whenever I

1122
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: wanted to read Casey some gushy letter from him, she

1123
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: would refuse. It was like Johnny and I were prison

1124
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: pen pals too, people who wanted so much to be

1125
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: with each other but were kept apart by bars, by

1126
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: our stars, by respective spouses. I would delete every email,

1127
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: convinced Nick would find out. I rewrote each text and

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01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: email in my knee journal, the sanctity of which my

1129
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: husband respected, even if neither of us were doing a

1130
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: good job of respecting the rest of our marriage. That's

1131
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: I've felt something hits. Yeah. I just love that detail

1132
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: that he was like her safe space while she was

1133
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: going through all this drama with Nicholas. I sadly read

1134
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: somewhere on the trivia section of Dukes of Hazard that

1135
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: he pitched for the shot where the camera does the

1136
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: pan up from her legs for the introductory shot of her.

1137
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: So maybe you know he had kind of a mixed

1138
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: influence on that. But he took a line detector test

1139
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: on the Stern. Yes, on one of the Stern's interview,

1140
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 1: he took a lie detector test about Jessica Simpson. It's

1141
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: worth reading the book. I'm just saying, Open Book by

1142
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: Jessica Simpson is like one of the top three celebrity memoirs. Well,

1143
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: the so on high praise on Stern. He uh Stern

1144
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: asked him whether or not they had sex, asked her

1145
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: if they had ever kissed, and then a third one,

1146
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: that's gross and I don't want to go into it.

1147
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: And Johnny Knoxville said no to all the question. However,

1148
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: the polygraph tests indicated that while he did not sleep

1149
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: with her, it went off when he said he didn't

1150
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: kiss her. So I imagine they had this like whole

1151
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: uh heathcliff On the More thing where they like embrace

1152
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: passionately in the right No, we can't. I love that.

1153
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: Oh man, um Stevo, for his part, once told Howard

1154
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: Stern that he uh pleasured himself while laying in bed

1155
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: next to Nicole Ritchie. Once, I would just move on,

1156
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: just move uh Stevo. Stevo's thirst for fame came with

1157
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: an attendant thirst for everything. Knoxville told Access Hollywood in

1158
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, we all had our eye on

1159
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: Stevo because he'd gotten to a really bad point in

1160
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: doing all kinds of crazy drugs. During a two interview

1161
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: on In Depth with Graham Bensinger, Stevo claimed that he

1162
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: started drinking at just twelve years old, saying that his

1163
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: mother would give him quote just a little booze on

1164
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: planes to stop of him crying. And also during this interview,

1165
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: he mentioned the time during the depths of his addiction

1166
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: that he resorted the snorting cocaine that had been mixed

1167
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: with his dealer's HIV positive blood. I don't even know

1168
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: how you let's not even getting the mechanics of that.

1169
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: He told Stern in two thousand seven that he once

1170
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: injected five ounces of vodka intravenously. Oh I can't do

1171
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: with I VS no no, that's my line. But don't

1172
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: worry because there was a nurse there and she told

1173
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: him it would be fine. That's three and a third shots,

1174
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: which isn't a ton, but probably getting that directly into

1175
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: your bloodstream. Yeah, get you where you're needed to be. Um. Oh,

1176
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: they eventually. This is really sweet. What Steven mentioned earlier,

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01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: Knoxville assembled ten of our closest friends, big guys, and

1178
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: went to his house and said Steve, oh, you know,

1179
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: we're here to take you to rehab and if you

1180
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: don't go, I've instructed the guys to knock you out

1181
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: and then we'll take you. And he's like, okay, dude,

1182
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: I'll go. As we mentioned earlier, he notched fourteen years

1183
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: of sobriety earlier this year, which congratulations Steven, really I am.

1184
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: I do not say this with sarcasm. I am very

1185
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: proud of you. We'll talk more about this later. But

1186
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: the whole element of camaraderie in this show is something

1187
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: that I think is the secret ingredient that isn't touched

1188
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: on enough. The fact that these guys clearly care so

1189
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: much about each other. There is there is a weird,

1190
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: perverse sweetness there for all the you know, all the abuse.

1191
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: Oh man, I thought of my new least favorite skit.

1192
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: It's from Forever. It was the silence of the lambs

1193
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: one whether they're all in the dark. Oh god, it's

1194
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: it is really bad. It's because is it mcgahey, who's

1195
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 1: like locked in at the end and he just doesn't

1196
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: know it's over and he's like, is it? Is it

1197
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: done now? Are we still doing it? Is it done now?

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01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: I like that. My heart went out to him in

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01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: that moment. I mean, it's like trauma monding essentially. Yeah. Um. Incidentally,

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01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: that scene in the first movie where Stevo gets a

1201
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: tattoo from Henry Rawlins while they're off roading, that was

1202
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: supposed to be Motley Crue bassist Nikki six, for which

1203
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: Stevo initially prepared for that scene by snorting coke off

1204
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: a picture of six. I want to launch a secondary

1205
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: podcast to figure out why Nikki six wasn't involved with that,

1206
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: because that would have been incredible. I guess Stevo was

1207
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: terrified of ultimately getting this tattoo from Henry Rawlins because

1208
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: he was dating and I'll use that as the polite

1209
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: euphemism Henry's X, and he thought he was going to

1210
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,919
Speaker 1: get beaten up by head, right, there's a reasonable fear.

1211
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: It's a very very reasonable fear. So MTV was caught

1212
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: off guard along with everyone else when Knoxville, put off

1213
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: by the increasing restrictions on the show, announced his intention

1214
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: to quit in an interview with the Knoxville News Centennial

1215
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: in August two thousand and one. Wait to give your

1216
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: home paper scoop. He's a far at local journalism, Alex,

1217
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:22,919
Speaker 1: And you know what I was gonna say, he told

1218
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: the paper. MTV will continue to air repeats of the

1219
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: twenty four existing episodes of Jackass, but we'll edit out

1220
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: the segments that have been protested. The most objectionable things

1221
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 1: will be taken out, all the funny things will be gone.

1222
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:42,439
Speaker 1: I mean, was he wrong? Yeah? Anyway, Stevo later told

1223
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: The Hollywood Reporter, when we all the supporting cast members

1224
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: learned of this, we were like, Um, what do you mean, Knoxville,

1225
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Bike Jones told Vice Ineen

1226
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: that a concession MTV made to them at the beginning

1227
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: came back to bite them. We set it up so

1228
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 1: we could cancel the show whenever we wanted, and I

1229
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 1: don't think they remembered that. I don't think most TV

1230
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 1: shows have that where the producers can cancel the show,

1231
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: but we did. They're just like frantically flipping back the

1232
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 1: contract we signed what And we touched on this earlier.

1233
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: This is the part when they started developing the first

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01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: movie with MTV Films, which they could rate are so

1235
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have to answer to the strict Television Standards

1236
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 1: and Practices Department and kids wouldn't see it. Basically. However,

1237
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 1: they did get quite the get for the show's finale,

1238
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: and that was Brad Pitt forgot this. It's amazing, right,

1239
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: he was saying he really wanted to do something with us.

1240
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 1: Johnny Knoxville told MTV News in September two six, we

1241
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 1: were filming the last episode at the time. We didn't

1242
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: even have any ideas, just that he wanted to be

1243
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: on the show. I love how much Brad Pitt loved programming. Yes,

1244
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: I mean, is this how he also got on Friends?

1245
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: He just wanted to be on Jeifer don't say no

1246
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 1: to that jaw line. Did he also like go up

1247
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 1: to Jack Osborne at the MS or something and say like, oh, yeah, man, Jack,

1248
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: I love your show. Yeah. Me and Jim like got

1249
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: all the tapes from MTV. We watched him at night

1250
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,560
Speaker 1: in bed before you go to sleep and just blew

1251
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 1: like tween Jack's mind. So cute. What did they go with? Maggie?

1252
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: So they so they settle on the skin in which

1253
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: they kidnapped Brad Pitt in full view of a number

1254
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: of bystanders. Imagine just like being a bystander and like,

1255
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt is kun kid after? Like should I help?

1256
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 1: Famous history of that? Yeah, it deserves one for sure.

1257
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: But Knoxville told Hot Ones that Pitt was also game

1258
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 1: for a much more dangerous idea. He said, we had

1259
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: him for one night. We were doing these go carts

1260
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: bombing the hill on Vine and we were all like, oh,

1261
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: we don't really want him to get hurt because he's

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Speaker 1: Brad hit but he did not care. He was ready

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Speaker 1: to do it. He was the first one in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the street. We're like, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: don't do that, but he didn't care. It is vinus

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Speaker 1: t I don't see this where that's up by by

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Speaker 1: the Capitol records stilding that slopes down towards sunset. That's

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01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: quite a hill. Good for Brad. Uh. Yeah, somebody who

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Speaker 1: didn't get to be on jackass, though Bruce dern Is

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Speaker 1: once upon a time on Hollywood co star George Spawn

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01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 1: and that. Yeah, and didn't he win for um uh Nebraska. Yeah? Yeah.

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01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,799
Speaker 1: He wanted to be a jackass forever and they couldn't

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Speaker 1: make it work because he's older than dirt. He's a

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01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 1: bild bag of bones. What are you doing? What are

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Speaker 1: you doing? What are you doing? Bruce? Come on? Just

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01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,440
Speaker 1: know your role man. Who did they go with instead

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01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 1: of they had like machine Gun Kelly, they had like

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01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: Eric Andre. Like, we couldn't got Bruce Turning. He would

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Speaker 1: have died. Any one of those things would have killed him.

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01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 1: Why didn't they could do like one of the bad

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01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: grandpa things? But like, actually just using it's just Bruce

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01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: turn could you pick up could you pick Bruce Den

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01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 1: from other Grandpa respect to Bruce earned? Well, I know

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01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: we were going to mostly focus on the TV show. Uh,

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01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 1: we're ninety minutes into this and we all have lives,

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01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: but we should touch briefly on the movies I Don't

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01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: Have a Life, which was the logical extension of the

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01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 1: franchise after it became too controversial for television. The head

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Speaker 1: of MTV Films, subsidiary of Paramount, also owned by Viacom,

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01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 1: pitched Spike Jones on the idea after the show ended abruptly.

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01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 1: Jeff Tremaine never thought his quote stupid little show would

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Speaker 1: translate to the big screen, and uh neither did Paramount.

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01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 1: Uh Stevo says that Paramount funded and produced the movie,

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01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: but did so through a fake name or ghost company.

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01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 1: So he said, if anybody died, they wouldn't even be

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01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: affiliated with it. And then once we were done, they

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01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: found out about it in air quotes and bought it.

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01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 1: This is like the studio equivalent of like, you can't

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01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:57,959
Speaker 1: tell anyone we're dating. Yes, this is the studio equivalent

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01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 1: of a situation ship. Ah. So they shot the majority

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01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: of footage in Japan, where they were not as famous

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01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 1: and they wouldn't be recognized when they did their stunts

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01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 1: in public. Most of the later episodes were filmed on

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01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 1: private property, plus the comparatively lax Japanese privacy laws meant

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01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 1: they didn't have to blur out people's faces. Louis Fall

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01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 1: came up with the idea of the night Pandas segment

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01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 1: because he wanted to go to Japan. The crew. I

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01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 1: know it seems you know convenient making a movie. You

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01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 1: want to go to Japan, Here you go. The crew

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01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: agreed to bring it along simply because nobody had the

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01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 1: heart to tell him that pandas are actually from China

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01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: and knock Japan. The scenes of Japan feature, you know,

1313
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: maybe a fan favorite, the Massabi Spooters. So simple, so effective,

1314
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:47,560
Speaker 1: so stupid. Incidentally, that skit took place during Johnny Knoxville's

1315
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: birthday dinner. Um where we we got a few things.

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01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: I like more than when your crowns have discussed on

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01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: this show. I've read it with American Pie, I've heard

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01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,799
Speaker 1: it with Margharitavill. Oh, now I've heard it with Wassabi Snooters.

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01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 1: It really just lights my soul. I just that's like burned,

1320
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: like watching that on my my home DVD Playler with

1321
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 1: like my parents, Just why would you possibly watch this

1322
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 1: with your parents? My dad thought it was funny, and

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01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: then my mom would like came in and was kind

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01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 1: of like, oh, these idiots is funny. And then at

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01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: the second it got to the gross stuff, they were

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01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 1: both just like whatever son I was eighteen, they couldn't

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01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: stop me. Uh. Speaking of iconic jackass moments like the

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Speaker 1: Wassabi Shooters moment. We have the incredible opening with the

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Speaker 1: guys on a giant, oversized shopping cart, and I just

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01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: always love that because it's just the perfect way to

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01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: telegraph the tone of the movie. We're taking sketches from

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01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: the TV, and we're just doing them bigger. They are

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01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 1: just physically larger with a crazier budget. And incidentally, the

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01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 1: giant shopping cart was actually an old prop used in

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01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 1: the film The Incredible Shrinking Woman and I Preston Lacy,

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01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 1: one of the Jackass crew people, spotted on the studio

1337
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: back lot and incorporated into the film. And predictably, reviews

1338
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 1: of Jackass the movie were unkind, to say the least.

1339
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: The New York Times dismissed Jackass the movie as quote

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01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: a documentary version of Fight Club, shorn of social insight,

1341
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 1: intellectual pretension, and cinematic interest. Finish him. Yeah, I respectfully disagree.

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01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to wax poetic about Jackass anymore than

1343
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 1: I already have, but the bits in this are just

1344
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 1: truly tremendous, both in their economy and in their execution.

1345
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: You know, as I just mentioned a second ago, I

1346
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 1: used to be embarrassed as a kid with my parents

1347
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 1: would catch me watching this show because on one hand

1348
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,719
Speaker 1: you could argue that it is rock bottom, lowest common

1349
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:53,759
Speaker 1: denominator entertainment. But I just I thought at the time,

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01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, I thought that it was

1351
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: so funny, and now looking back on it, it really

1352
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 1: does follow in this continue you um of like silent

1353
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,520
Speaker 1: film stars like Buster Keaton and then the Three Stooges

1354
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: and then Loony Tunes and then Jerry Lewis. Like I wonder,

1355
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: in all seriousness if Jackass is huge in France because

1356
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,799
Speaker 1: they love Jerry Lewis and all that, like Jacques Tatis stuff,

1357
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 1: Like I could see the humor. Really it's a kind

1358
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 1: of thing where you don't really need to know the

1359
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 1: language even. Sure that's something, Yeah, it's something that's really

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01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: interesting me. Uh. Two bits from Jackass three D, which

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01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 1: I think is the best Jackass movie stick out the

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01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 1: High five where they build a giant foam hand that

1363
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 1: waxed people onto their butts. It's spring loaded. The way

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01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 1: it builds is just so perfect. They call Ryan Dunn

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01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 1: into the room, smacks him down. Then they call Aaron

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01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 1: carrying a tray of soup guy carrying a thing a

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01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: secret smack down. It's so perfect. I mean, this is

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01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 1: like comedy one on one that the way they just

1369
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 1: distill it down, and then they finally raise the stakes

1370
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 1: for Bam, who gets hit after they strap bags of

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01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 1: flower to the hand, which sends them flying amid a

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01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: cloud of white powder. I think they call it antiquing

1373
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 1: in the world of the show. It's just such a

1374
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: simple logical bit. But I I think I think my

1375
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 1: favorite bit of all time is the jet engine bit,

1376
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: which is just perfect. They just set people in tableaus

1377
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: up behind the jet engine of a plane and watch

1378
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 1: them get blown away by a blast of air. They

1379
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 1: set up a dinner scene and they have a guy

1380
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 1: in a top hat and tails walk across the jet

1381
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: stream with a tray of clocktail goblets and then he

1382
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: gets blown away. It's beautiful. I mean, it's like a

1383
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 1: cartoon brought to life. It's live action cartoons. And I

1384
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 1: think I also really like this one because it's one

1385
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: of the few jackass stunts where no one appears to

1386
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: get seriously hurt and it's not especially gross, so it's

1387
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 1: very pure. Yeah. I love that, and it comes full

1388
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 1: circle for Knoxville's heroes being like Tom and Jerry kind

1389
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: of like slipping on a banana pele. There were, however,

1390
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 1: a few stunts that did not make it into the film,

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01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 1: surprising to no one. Have you been listening to this podcast?

1392
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 1: So Bear war Jarak came up with a sketch that,

1393
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 1: upon reflection, he called quote one of the stupidest things ever.

1394
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 1: He wanted to hire Mike Tyson to bite off his ear.

1395
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 1: You may remember something that has happened involving a vander Holyfield.

1396
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,839
Speaker 1: Producers went so far as to reach out to Tyson,

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01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 1: who apparently was deeply offended and said no. And also

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01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: there was a stunt planned with Chris Pontius dressed as

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01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: his devil character and dropping in on a Pentecostal church

1400
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: service where the congregates handle live venomous snakes. However, the

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01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 1: insurance coverage for the stunt would have nearly doubled the

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01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: six million dollar budget, so they dropped it. Oh yeah,

1403
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: nothing like parachuting into a bunch of riled up conservative

1404
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 1: Christians and they're snakes. Good lord, h Jordan, I'm you know,

1405
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 1: I've never seen bad Grandpa, so you should take this one. Yeah.

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01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:55,600
Speaker 1: I just want to give a quick shout out to

1407
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 1: bad Grandpa from It's the movie that featured Johnny Knoxville

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01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 1: in disguise as as Irving Zisman character. Not my favorite

1409
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: entry in the Jackass franchise. I thought I'd tried too

1410
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 1: hard to be bored at by shoehorning in a plot.

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01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 1: But it's also the only entry in the Jackass franchise

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01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 1: to garner an Oscar nomination. Yes, we got there, we

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01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 1: did it, Joe h. Granted this was not for Best

1414
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 1: Acting or Writing or directing or shockingly Best Picture. It

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01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 1: was for Best Makeup and Hairstyling. Johnny knox was reaction

1416
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 1: to the nomination. Am I a stunt as anyone else?

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01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 1: We didn't get them? Hodd for Best Picture? Well, of course,

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01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: uh um, they lost the Dallas Buyers Club. I cannot

1419
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: think of another movie that's is far emotionally spiritually from Jackass. Um,

1420
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 1: so it's probably for the best of the Dallas Buyers

1421
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 1: Club one for that award. But Johnny Knoxell keeps a

1422
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:53,719
Speaker 1: pair of I don't think I've ever said this phrase.

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01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 1: Extra long prop testicles mounted like a work of art

1424
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:00,560
Speaker 1: in his home office from this film. So during a

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01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,959
Speaker 1: screening of Bad Grandpa at an Arizona frat house, Johnny's

1426
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 1: beer was spiked with ecstasy. Fun that's a nice little

1427
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 1: button on that anecdote. While mentioning Jackass to a number

1428
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: of friends over the course of my research for this episode,

1429
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 1: each and every one of them spoke passionately about a

1430
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: little scene from the first movie with Ryan Dunn and

1431
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 1: the toy euphemistically ingesting a toy car. Johnny knoxele has

1432
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 1: cited this as the best GIT shot for Jackass. I

1433
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 1: think it was just one attribute video to Ryan Dunn.

1434
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 1: I was surprised to learn that this stunt nearly turned

1435
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: out very different. This is per vice is very very

1436
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:47,600
Speaker 1: good oral history on Jackass. Spike Jones originally one of

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01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 1: the toy car to be a cell phone, but they

1438
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 1: were too big back then. I think there was some

1439
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 1: kind of plot about calling it. Yeah, I don't, I okay. Anyway,

1440
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 1: moving on, The stunt was imagined was Steve l in mind,

1441
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 1: but he backed out because he said his father would

1442
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 1: disown him for use your imagination. Uh. Then Ryan Dunnes

1443
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 1: stepped up to the plate and Tremaine said, it all

1444
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:17,879
Speaker 1: just fell into place, and everything about it, it was magical.

1445
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 1: The Jackass epitaph, everything about it was everything was magical

1446
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 1: and nothing hurt excepted all of it. It all hurt

1447
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 1: us so much. UM. Jackass is just it's not a

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01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 1: shortlist of the most influential media properties of that part

1449
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: of the era. You know. UM. John Waters has talked

1450
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 1: about how much he's loved it. He's been in the movies,

1451
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,600
Speaker 1: Quentin Tarantino said, and I didn't. I did not know

1452
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 1: that until researching this. Quentin Tarantino said that the first

1453
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: Jackass film inspires the gross out elements of the fight

1454
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,560
Speaker 1: between Daryl Hannah and Uma Thurman in the trailer and

1455
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 1: the second kill Bill, like when she's like steps on

1456
01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 1: the eyeball that she plucks out. So just friends and

1457
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 1: high places. Um. In two thousand three, the UK created

1458
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,679
Speaker 1: its own show in that mold called Dirty Sanchez, which

1459
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,639
Speaker 1: I will never forgive them for making me say. Finland

1460
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: had the much more whimsically named The Dude Sins Like that.

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01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 1: Did anybody see The Dude Sins this on? UM? I

1462
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 1: would venture that the biggest place that their influence can

1463
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 1: be felt is on YouTube, which has seen any number

1464
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 1: of prank channels proliferate like mushrooms in the dark. The

1465
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 1: logical native of which is almost assuredly Logan Paul, who

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01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 1: made international headlines in January when he uploaded a video

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Speaker 1: of himself laughing and joking after finding a dead body

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Speaker 1: in Japan's so called suicide Forest. But my personal favorite

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Speaker 1: of this show is these guys avowed attempt to normalize

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Speaker 1: homo eroticism, which it sounds like a sounds like I'm

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Speaker 1: putting people on. I am not. You will remember that

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Speaker 1: they are all in various stages of nudity throughout the

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Speaker 1: entire show, and they're all very comfortable with it, Pontius

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Speaker 1: and Stevo in particular. And it really comes through Wild Boys,

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Speaker 1: which was like really my favorite of this where they're

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Speaker 1: just like having the best adventures and just all kind

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Speaker 1: of naked. But they have said that they were trying

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Speaker 1: to do as much. Stevo told Vanity Fair, Maggie did

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Speaker 1: not tell you, sadly, and I was not there, he said.

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Speaker 1: We always thought it was funny to force a heterosexual

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Speaker 1: MTV generation to deal with all of our thongs and

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01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 1: homo erotic humor. In many ways, all our gay humor

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01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: has been a humanitarian attack against homophobia. We've been trying

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Speaker 1: to rid the world of homophobia for years, and I

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01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 1: think gay people really dig it to uh. And he

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Speaker 1: said much the same on a site called Gayety this year.

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Speaker 1: He said, I think what is kind of driving all

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Speaker 1: of that humor is making fun of homophobia. We're poking

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01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 1: fun at people who are insecure and people who are

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Speaker 1: negative and hateful. And it is worth pointing out that

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Speaker 1: John Waters is not the only queer icon they had

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Speaker 1: in their movies. They also had a ripped Taylor cameo

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01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 1: in one of the films. You know, for all our

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01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 1: talk about flying porta potties and bottle rockets launched out

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01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:20,520
Speaker 1: of butts, toys shoved up rectums, and milking male horses

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01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: and bee hives being batted around like a tether ball,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we talked about that many of these.

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01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:29,600
Speaker 1: And cheeks pierced with fishing hooks and different kinds of

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01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:33,560
Speaker 1: cheeks burned with cattle brands, and teeth pulled with Lamborghinis

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Speaker 1: and rent a car smashed up in a demolition derby,

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Speaker 1: and buckets full of vomit, and uh, well, I forgot

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01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: where I was going with this, but oh yeah, the

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Speaker 1: most important part of all this jackassery is, of course

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01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 1: the friends we made along the way for all of

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01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 1: its sophomore humor and shock value, the camaraderie is the

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01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 1: seldom appreciated element that makes Jackass so enjoyable. There's a

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01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 1: fantastic piece and vulture by Bill A Beery that was

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01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 1: published earlier this year called The was a Catharsis of Jackass,

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01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 1: and in this he writes, individually, each of these stunts

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Speaker 1: or pranks would seem breathtakingly mean spirited, but because the

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Speaker 1: films ensure that every cast member watching and giggling at

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01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 1: one comrades misfortune will soon get their own moment of

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01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 1: cinematic disgrace. They become something sweet, a group journey of

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01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 1: pain vomit in tears. Maggie, you mentioned trauma bonding earlier. Quote.

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Speaker 1: The films have so effectively created a communal atmosphere that

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01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 1: the audience often feels like a part of the Jackass team.

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01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 1: This is me editorializing. Sometimes that would come back to

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01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 1: haunt them with all the people who tried to recreate

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01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 1: some of those stunts. But we'll try to keep things

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01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 1: positive for this. Johnny Knox Phillis is getting back to

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01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 1: the quote and his pals provide Catharsis by letting dogs

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01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 1: bite them in the ass and by trapping each other

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01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 1: in limousines full of bees. They take our despairing reality

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01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 1: and turned it into entertainment by presenting a vision of

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01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 1: loyalty and fellowship. The world was left and everything hurts,

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01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: they seem to say, but at least we have each other.

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Speaker 1: That's very sweet, well said. I mean, what is life

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01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 1: but a group journey of paying comics into Maggie before

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Speaker 1: we sign off there, before we get your thoughts and

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01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 1: sign off. Where can people find you? You can follow

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01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: me on Twitter. I'm at Maggie Cogland c O U

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Speaker 1: G H L A N. Otherwise you can check out

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01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: Vanity fair dot com. I write some stuff for them

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Speaker 1: sometimes and I'm editing the rest of the time. Did

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Speaker 1: you have anything else you wanted to say about the

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01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 1: Jackass Boys and this wonderful franchise and all the gifts

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01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 1: it's given us. I mean, if anything, it's a testament

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01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 1: to lifelong friendships and how they can get you through

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01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 1: really ridiculous stuff. Maybe it's surviving a pandemic, or you know,

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01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 1: drama in your personal life, or maybe it's doing a

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01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:46,719
Speaker 1: stunt where you're covered in bees. Well. Thank you, thank

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01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: you folks for listening. Thank you Maggie for being our

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Speaker 1: first guest on the show. This has been too much information.

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Speaker 1: I'm Alex Heigel and I I have Jordan Runag. We'll catch

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Speaker 1: you next time. Too Much Information was a production of

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. The show's executive producers are Noel Brown

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01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 1: and Jordan Runtalk. The supervising producer is Mike John's. The

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Speaker 1: show was researched, written and hosted by Jordan Runtalk and

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Speaker 1: Alex Heigel, with original music by Seth Applebaum and the

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Speaker 1: Ghost Funk Orchestra. If you like what you heard, please

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