Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back. My name is Questlove.
Speaker 1: Last week we had this long overdue talk with our friend,
Speaker 1: our love, Jill Scott. Coming up without further ado, Part
Speaker 1: two of our exciting interview on Quest Love Supreme One
Speaker 1: and only Miss Jill Scott. This is like our first
Speaker 1: real extended conversation has lasted more than an hour in
Speaker 1: our twenty years of knowing each other.
Speaker 2: Now I understand why she ended up working with Jazz Jail.
Speaker 3: And even Ryan. I was trying. I called. I called
Speaker 3: James Poyser because I knew him from the Jam sessions.
Speaker 3: I called every producer that I knew of, every studio
Speaker 3: that I knew of, to find out if they needed
Speaker 3: a writer or a singer. And for six months, nobody
Speaker 3: said anything. And then one day I saw Jazzy Jeff
Speaker 3: on the street talking to Rich Mendena and I was like,
Speaker 3: what's up. I'm just annoyed, you know, heading to the theater,
Speaker 3: go sweep floors and clean toilets. And I walked away
Speaker 3: and Jeff was like, who's that? And Rich told him, now,
Speaker 3: that's Jill Scot. He was like that's Jills guy. She
Speaker 3: calls my studio every day.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And then they called me in to see if I
Speaker 3: could write a song, but I, you know, still lying.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, yeah, I write a song, and
Speaker 3: I tried it and it worked out. It just and
Speaker 3: it kept working out, and it just until album happened,
Speaker 3: and you kept working.
Speaker 2: What was the first song that you wrote?
Speaker 3: The first song at a touch of jazz? The first
Speaker 3: song that I ever wrote? Well, the hook I ever
Speaker 3: wrote was you got me?
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, dog, that's what she said.
Speaker 4: She said, she faked her.
Speaker 1: I know that, but I still was hoping to get
Speaker 1: Claire that my song wasn't your first, got first?
Speaker 3: But what you get?
Speaker 2: Are you serious?
Speaker 1: I am for all listening to this episode. That's a
Speaker 1: life lesson. You stepped into some ship, into an opportunity.
Speaker 1: I would have thought that by that point you, I mean,
Speaker 1: you handled it like you've been doing this ship for
Speaker 1: seven eight years.
Speaker 2: You I've never once heard you say this is the
Speaker 2: first song I ever wrote? And wait? Also, how does
Speaker 2: it feel to be Drake famous? Did you like your
Speaker 2: shout out?
Speaker 3: Yeah? This is this is his second one.
Speaker 2: Oh I missed the first time.
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh wait, we got to Drake icons on the line
Speaker 4: what do you say, Jill? What did he say to you?
Speaker 2: He talked about his quest on Jill Scott on this
Speaker 2: new album.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I'll go listen to that sweet All the
Speaker 5: kids are listening to it.
Speaker 3: It's very sweet, banging.
Speaker 4: I mean, okay, yeah, she got thanks ma'am.
Speaker 3: Thinks you yo.
Speaker 5: But Joe, weren't you one of the one of the
Speaker 5: rare artists that actually got the whole touch of jazz
Speaker 5: involved in your record, because it's not like too many
Speaker 5: artists that have everybody right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What was it like at the point where they
Speaker 2: were together like.
Speaker 3: As magic magic? I missed that, I think. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's the thing I missed the most. We had so
Speaker 3: much fun in every room. They were working every room,
Speaker 3: five rooms, four rooms or whatever it was at the time.
Speaker 3: You just walk out of one and go to the
Speaker 3: next a totally different energy, and then you go in
Speaker 3: the next room and laugh hysterically. Vidal of course was
Speaker 3: hilarious and still is, and and Dre is learning how
Speaker 3: to play the guitar at the time. And Keith is
Speaker 3: straight out of church, so all of his stuff, everything
Speaker 3: that he puts his fingers to on the keys. It
Speaker 3: just feels like like old soul because the church that
Speaker 3: he was in his father was a pastor, and it
Speaker 3: just had felt old and rich and everything it was.
Speaker 3: We had fun. We didn't have any money. We shared
Speaker 3: cheese steaks, We cut out, cut out the McDonald's bags
Speaker 3: to go to great event not great adventures. All rolled
Speaker 3: in Dre's car. It had a hole in the floor
Speaker 3: if you sat in the front seat, not fall asleep
Speaker 3: and let your feet fall in the hole because it
Speaker 3: was a rap.
Speaker 4: Rap.
Speaker 3: We were broke and it was fun and it was
Speaker 3: probably still the best time I ever had.
Speaker 6: Or you were working, you were working on the album
Speaker 6: or what would become the album. This was before Hidden
Speaker 6: Beach even came into the picture.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I had been calling Jeff and finally he'd seen
Speaker 3: me and he said, okay, you can come in. I
Speaker 3: called again and said why did you come down? And
Speaker 3: none of the guys wanted to give me any music,
Speaker 3: So I kind of hung around, stood around, hung around us,
Speaker 3: Well do you have anything that you know that I
Speaker 3: could take? And they were like, oh no, no, we're
Speaker 3: working with Will Smooth, working with you know, And I
Speaker 3: was like, uh, well, the studio. I gotta find a
Speaker 3: way to come back here. You know, the lobby, the
Speaker 3: wood is exposed. Can I stand in Polly your thing
Speaker 3: the lobby? So to look at me seriously, I'm very serious,
Speaker 3: and Jeff was like, oh, that would look nice. And
Speaker 3: I said, well, you know, can I do it? And
Speaker 3: he was like all right, I'll give you. You know, I'll
Speaker 3: give you money for the supplies. And I stained in
Speaker 3: poly your thing the lobby and so Scott was going
Speaker 3: on in the other rooms, and you know, they would
Speaker 3: come out and leave the door open and let me
Speaker 3: hear sometimes or I would, you know, go in for
Speaker 3: a minute and to say, oh, I like that. And
Speaker 3: then eventually they gave me a tape and they had
Speaker 3: seven songs on them, and those seven songs ended up
Speaker 3: being on who is Jill Scott?
Speaker 5: And the Rain was after that? Right, I'm sorry, you
Speaker 5: said Will Smith. So I just automatically went to the rain.
Speaker 5: It happened later, okay, after.
Speaker 3: After they started letting me write and then uh sing,
Speaker 3: because I had to let him know. I wasn't planning
Speaker 3: on singing, but I had to let him know how
Speaker 3: it went. And they were like, oh, yeah, that was
Speaker 3: that was good, Wait a minute you sing?
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, Joe was be ready in one
Speaker 5: of these seven songs.
Speaker 3: Be Ready came later? Damn, Okay, be Ready came Later.
Speaker 3: I love that song.
Speaker 2: But that's the most amazing story I've ever heard. Mom.
Speaker 6: One thing we never talked about, like your voice. How
Speaker 6: did you develop your voice? You said you didn't like
Speaker 6: really sing in choirs or church or whatever.
Speaker 2: How did you develop your style?
Speaker 3: I did sing at Girls High, but we sang classical
Speaker 3: music primarily, and that just it just felt nice to me.
Speaker 3: And then they sent me on some school trip and
Speaker 3: I saw Kathleen Battle sing and was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: I didn't even know there was such thing as a
Speaker 3: black opera singer, Like this is dope. And then I
Speaker 3: mostly honestly, I just started being a mimic. I mimicked
Speaker 3: Anita Baker, I mimicked philisheymon, Kathleen Battle mimicked her. That.
Speaker 3: I think that's just where it started. You know, I
Speaker 3: didn't have any plans to sing at all. I'm still amazed.
Speaker 3: I'm still like, what you want me to? What? All right? Okay?
Speaker 6: So yeah, Jeff, he said the same thing about he said,
Speaker 6: like when y'all first started working that and you can,
Speaker 6: you know, tell me for stort. He was saying that
Speaker 6: they kind of had to convince you, I guess, to sing,
Speaker 6: like you know, they were more so interested in doing
Speaker 6: the poetry, but.
Speaker 2: He was like, yo, what the hell, Like, nah, you
Speaker 2: need to do that ship. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: He was kind of pushing you to do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he was definitely a motivating force. And then
Speaker 3: I think when I when I started singing in front
Speaker 3: of people, this was before that. I mean yeah, this
Speaker 3: was before Hit a Touch of Jazz or Hitting Beach
Speaker 3: or any of that. Richmondina and I we were sitting
Speaker 3: outside my house and normally and things had gone real bad.
Speaker 3: I knew, all uk, it was anew all the crack kids.
Speaker 3: Nobody ever bothered me. You know, somebody would like try
Speaker 3: to run up on me or whatever, and then they
Speaker 3: sing it like oh hey hey hey Jill. And if
Speaker 3: they were real hot to be like Jill, Jill, you
Speaker 3: know right, you know, they got to give you a
Speaker 3: double that's right, right, what's something or mayor then some
Speaker 3: guy pulled up on us and tried to rob us
Speaker 3: sitting in front of my house and shot at us. Actually,
Speaker 3: Richard pulled off and the guy shot at us, and
Speaker 3: everything I think was different. We had a poetry reading
Speaker 3: the next day and I went to it in my
Speaker 3: pajamas because I couldn't figure out how to put clothes on. Like,
Speaker 3: my safety was gone. Everything I knew that was my own,
Speaker 3: this is my hood, these are my crackheads, this is
Speaker 3: my drug dealers, this is my block. You know, I'm
Speaker 3: safe was gone, and I instead of writing or reciting
Speaker 3: the poem I had written, I just started singing. And
Speaker 3: that was That was the beginning. It must have been
Speaker 3: two No, couldn't have been two thousand and probably ninety eight,
Speaker 3: ninety yeah, probably like ninety eight, gotcha. And that's when
Speaker 3: I was like, I think I could do this. You know,
Speaker 3: I probably could do this. I'll just try to be
Speaker 3: a writer, because lord knows, I don't want to be famous.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So what was that like? Well, first of all, there's
Speaker 1: a question I had about your block. The house that
Speaker 1: the video to Long Walk is connected to. Is that
Speaker 1: your childhood home? Yes, And the same house is getting
Speaker 1: in the way.
Speaker 4: You're just sitting in front the.
Speaker 3: One that I came out of for getting in the way.
Speaker 3: Is across the street from my house. I passed my
Speaker 3: house right and the one that I was sitting on
Speaker 3: the steps for a long Walk, that's a neighbor's.
Speaker 1: I gotta say the intro to long Walk no fully strong,
Speaker 1: the intro yeah, well no, no, no, I don't even mean
Speaker 1: the video. Of course the video too, because you're smiling
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, But the ten seconds, the first
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds of long Walk, the song is probably like
Speaker 1: I have like my top five.
Speaker 2: Half the adrenaline moments, like things I.
Speaker 1: Have to hear if I need to like get in
Speaker 1: a mood of happiness or whatever.
Speaker 2: Long Walk and Herb Albert's Root one oh one or
Speaker 2: those two songs, which is where don't look up Herb Alberts.
Speaker 1: People associated that with the Dentist Office happy song, But yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it's something.
Speaker 2: That like, do you ever get tired of.
Speaker 1: People's fandom of because I feel as though they don't
Speaker 1: give your entire catalog a fair shot. Only because I
Speaker 1: think that sort of like your association with Wiz, I
Speaker 1: think the sentimental attachment to discovering you as an artist
Speaker 1: as a fan, discovering you as an artist and what
Speaker 1: the soundtrack of that album for everyone in two thousand,
Speaker 1: like it was perfect because no one saw it coming.
Speaker 1: And to me, nobody saw it coming. Like literally on
Speaker 1: I'll say the soundtrack to the Voodoo Tour was like
Speaker 1: just playing it every twenty.
Speaker 2: Four to seven.
Speaker 1: If I'm not playing it, Anthony Hamilton's playing in the back.
Speaker 1: Even the you know, D'Angelo is so retro, like he
Speaker 1: wouldn't dare listen to anything older than like thirty years
Speaker 1: Like even he's rocking that shit because no one is
Speaker 1: expecting it. Like how how was it the first go
Speaker 1: round in your taste of celebrity and your relationship with
Speaker 1: your family, your relationship with your friends, and I might
Speaker 1: have to move out of this neighborhood like separation?
Speaker 2: Can you come back?
Speaker 5: Is?
Speaker 2: What's Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: In Thanksgiving two thousand and one? Like what was it?
Speaker 1: What was it like the first year and a half
Speaker 1: that after that album came out?
Speaker 3: Well it, I could say there were a lot more
Speaker 3: people at the family re union then that ever showed
Speaker 3: up for sure. Yeah, man, I didn't expect anything, so
Speaker 3: I got way more than I expected because I wasn't
Speaker 3: expecting anything. But Lizella and I were living together and uh,
Speaker 3: and our little second floor walk up and people were
Speaker 3: riding by playing the music at three four o'clock in
Speaker 3: the morning, you know, just highest capacity, just so loud.
Speaker 3: And I at first, honestly, I was blown I just
Speaker 3: was blown away. I didn't expect anything, so I was
Speaker 3: really didn't know how to take it, didn't didn't know
Speaker 3: what to feel about it either. Oh, it just started
Speaker 3: to hurt.
Speaker 2: In what way?
Speaker 3: In what way because people there were the presumption that
Speaker 3: they knew everything about me or who I was instead
Speaker 3: of just meeting me, and that hurt. It hurt me,
Speaker 3: Like I've got sense, right.
Speaker 5: I heard, she heard, I know her from this to that.
Speaker 3: She's like this, so she's like that, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm still growing, I'm still figuring it out. I I
Speaker 3: don't know. I'm out here trying to live and you
Speaker 3: still have.
Speaker 5: And they gave you the earthy label too, which for
Speaker 5: us at black radio, trying to play your radio, play
Speaker 5: your song, we were trying to make people understand the
Speaker 5: difference in earthy and neo soul people and regular old folks,
Speaker 5: in the fact that they were regular old folks.
Speaker 4: She wrote a song about beating a bitious ass, like
Speaker 4: why can't she be.
Speaker 6: There's nothing conscious about this now.
Speaker 4: But they put you in that bubble.
Speaker 3: Bubbles happened. You know. I didn't like that either. I
Speaker 3: just didn't like the world thinking that they knew who
Speaker 3: or what or why I was even here before I did.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm still figuring it out twenty years later.
Speaker 3: You know, who is Jill Scott? So much has changed,
Speaker 3: you know, it's way different than it was last year.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm a mother of eleven year old. Now
Speaker 3: that's way different from ten. I don't care who you
Speaker 3: talk to.
Speaker 5: You talk now, aren't you them teaching in handy?
Speaker 3: They have to? You know, we're in the middle of
Speaker 3: a pandemic. What does that mean? Who do I become
Speaker 3: in the middle of a pandemic? Or who does anybody become?
Speaker 3: You know, I'm I still like simple things, no matter
Speaker 3: how fancy my life may appear. I still hug trees.
Speaker 3: I think they're the bomb.
Speaker 4: I do argument about you being earthy, but that's fine.
Speaker 3: That's what I fart with them. You know, I'm still
Speaker 3: very very simple in these ways, and I treasure that
Speaker 3: about myself. I just take it all with with a
Speaker 3: grain of salt all the time, all the time. I
Speaker 3: don't need I don't. I don't need the athlete so much.
Speaker 3: What I need is to be able to pay all
Speaker 3: my bills. I need to be able to go on
Speaker 3: vacations and enjoy them. I need to be able to
Speaker 3: help my people where I can. I need to be
Speaker 3: able to not worry that I'm headed back where it
Speaker 3: came from because I don't want to go. I don't
Speaker 3: want to be shot at. I don't. I don't want
Speaker 3: to have to fend off, you know, crackheads trying to
Speaker 3: shoot at me. I don't want that light.
Speaker 1: So you have nightmares of one day this could be
Speaker 1: over and I'll be back at twenty third and blah
Speaker 1: blah blah.
Speaker 3: I have nightmares of not having food in the pantry.
Speaker 2: That is.
Speaker 3: That's a big one.
Speaker 2: I remember that.
Speaker 3: It comes from quite some time where neighbors, Jehovah witnesses particularly,
Speaker 3: were coming by dropping off baskets of food because we
Speaker 3: didn't have any. And I'm you know, it's not like
Speaker 3: I'm really pulling out a violin for sad songs. This
Speaker 3: is my existence, this is my life, and these are
Speaker 3: the things that keep me grounded. I know that it
Speaker 3: only takes one wrong phrase or one wrong song or
Speaker 3: one wrong role, or you know, to have to have
Speaker 3: a society cancel you or or shoe you away and
Speaker 3: not value you, know, what you bring to the table.
Speaker 3: I don't think that I'm the greatest singer. I think
Speaker 3: that I offer a lot of spirit. I think that
Speaker 3: whatever if it's passion or lust, if it's if it's
Speaker 3: fear or pain or happiness, simple joys, whatever they may be,
Speaker 3: thought process when I sing, you can hear that. And
Speaker 3: that's my gift. I'm able to convey emotions well. And
Speaker 3: I'm aware.
Speaker 6: Now you you do that well, and you I always
Speaker 6: wanted to tell you this, like you really played a
Speaker 6: big role, probably annoyingly for me. I was doing the
Speaker 6: session with Jeff like some years ago, and it was
Speaker 6: a little brother song and me and Pooh we were
Speaker 6: driving up the Delaware and we had in our mind, okay,
Speaker 6: it's rap the rap rap time.
Speaker 2: We about to damn wrap this nigg under the table,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And so we just like, all right, this rap the
Speaker 6: rap rap, And so we get to the to the
Speaker 6: spot and Jeff is just playing like all these kind
Speaker 6: of R and B records, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: and they were dope. I mean, the shit was dope,
Speaker 6: but it was not what we expected, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean. And so we ended up doing the song
Speaker 6: where pooh rhyme, and I mean, I ended up singing
Speaker 6: on it. And so I was just singing because Jeff
Speaker 6: had to touch your flight and stuff, and so I'm
Speaker 6: just kind of cutting vocals, not really thinking about it.
Speaker 6: And so I came out to booth and I was like,
Speaker 6: Jeff had this look on his face. I thought I
Speaker 6: had fucked up. I said, Man, what's wrong? He was like, man,
Speaker 6: you need to be singing all this time. You need
Speaker 6: to be singing. I was like, Jeff, Dude, I just
Speaker 6: kind of did it because that's what we had. I
Speaker 6: don't really want to do it. He was like, man,
Speaker 6: you know who the same You know who else said that?
Speaker 6: You know who else said that same shit. I was like,
Speaker 6: who he said?
Speaker 2: Jill?
Speaker 6: And I was like, damn, like word and he said
Speaker 6: at that time that he told me, he said, man,
Speaker 6: sometimes people can see things in you that you don't
Speaker 6: see in yourself. He was like, bro, you got something
Speaker 6: keep doing And that's something that I always always just
Speaker 6: want to share that with you you know you really
Speaker 6: When I when I heard when when he heard when
Speaker 6: I heard him say that Jill Scott didn't think she
Speaker 6: was a good singer, I said, well, nigga, God damn,
Speaker 6: everybody must hate they voice then, because I love your voice,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: But that was that was really that was really inspiring
Speaker 2: to me. Jill.
Speaker 1: What is your preparation for acting and how different how
Speaker 1: does it differ to your preparation for singing and songwriting?
Speaker 1: Like what's your creative process? Are you meditation?
Speaker 2: Is it? Like? What's what's your creative approach to it?
Speaker 3: Probably terror is the first step for me, Like I
Speaker 3: just don't want to fuck up so bad. I don't
Speaker 3: want to be the weak link in the room. I
Speaker 3: don't that's I just don't want that.
Speaker 4: What was the first one, Jie?
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 4: Why did I get married?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And the first TV show was Girlfriends and Marlbrock I
Speaker 3: killed gave me an ARC. She had never even seen
Speaker 3: me act before and gave me an ARC. And I
Speaker 3: was like, come on, God, like, I'm just like out
Speaker 3: here blessed, like crazy, and it's like ridiculous, goodness, gracious, anyway,
Speaker 3: how do I prepare like versus it's terror. And then
Speaker 3: there's homework because so I could be prepared, and I
Speaker 3: study a lot, a lot. I try to take walks
Speaker 3: where I can and be still where I can, and
Speaker 3: then I need to move my body, you know, so
Speaker 3: that I could feel that person you know in me
Speaker 3: around me. And then the famous line is to be
Speaker 3: that guy. That's it, Be that guy at all costs,
Speaker 3: whatever that means.
Speaker 5: Who challenged you the most in his acting journey, like
Speaker 5: as far as like direction, Anthony Minguela, he was.
Speaker 3: He he directed the talent in mister Ripley. Okay, I
Speaker 3: think in the Piano lesson Cold Mountain.
Speaker 2: HBO. Serious, correct.
Speaker 3: Yes, he auditioned me six times, Yes, for hours. It
Speaker 3: was the most gruesome experience. At some point I was like,
Speaker 3: fuck you either you want me or you don't, Like
Speaker 3: I can't keep coming here, or I need you to
Speaker 3: come tomorrow. Come to New York tomorrow, dude, like I
Speaker 3: have other things that I have to do. Seriously, you
Speaker 3: gotta know by now if you want me or not.
Speaker 3: And his auditions were brutal. Okay say the lines, and
Speaker 3: now your your left rib is cracked. Go okay, say
Speaker 3: the lines and now you have something stuck in your
Speaker 3: right eyelash. Go now say the lines and you're you
Speaker 3: can't stop, you can't stop drooling.
Speaker 2: Go Wow, that sounds good.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 1: He had obstacle after obstacle after challenge after it was
Speaker 1: taken instruction or.
Speaker 3: I don't know what he was doing, but being Anthony Miguela,
Speaker 3: the man won like eight oscars exactly.
Speaker 5: And you were the first black woman to help to
Speaker 5: lead a HBO series, So shit, yeah it.
Speaker 4: Wasn't going to be either. Yeah, welcome in Front.
Speaker 3: I was. I was really hurt when I didn't win
Speaker 3: an NAACP image word for that role. I was really
Speaker 3: hurt because I shot that ship. I was. I left
Speaker 3: there seven months pregnant. We worked in one hundred and
Speaker 3: seventeen degrees casually and location, right on location in Botswana
Speaker 3: for seven months. And yeah, three months the first time,
Speaker 3: four months the next time. And I was just like,
Speaker 3: I shot a show about Africa, you know, even though
Speaker 3: it's fictional.
Speaker 5: In Africa, and you lived it every birthday, and now
Speaker 5: you're playing them where they usually play us exactly.
Speaker 3: Well, if they get the opportunity, which is a real treasures.
Speaker 2: Did it take you to have that accent comfortably.
Speaker 3: We they I had was studying an hour day every
Speaker 3: day for two months, and then when I got there,
Speaker 3: it was all wrong. They gave me a zim accent
Speaker 3: and not a Mutsuana accent.
Speaker 2: Whoa.
Speaker 3: So I had to unlearned everything and relearn it real fast.
Speaker 3: And the Mutswana women, the elder women would sit around.
Speaker 3: If I got something wrong, they go yeah ah, and
Speaker 3: I was like, that's not the sound that I wanted
Speaker 3: to hear. I did not want to let them down
Speaker 3: in any way. And then when I got stuff right,
Speaker 3: you hear them go, my gay, you're live for my guad?
Speaker 2: What happened? What happened with the show? Why did they
Speaker 2: only do one passed away? Right?
Speaker 3: Yes? He did, Yes he did. He was He was
Speaker 3: so brilliant, and I thought that he was a flirt.
Speaker 3: I didn't know what was going on. He was so touchy, like,
Speaker 3: stop touching me all the time. I don't like it.
Speaker 3: I smacked him because I was like this too much.
Speaker 3: I don't know what you're doing. And then his wife
Speaker 3: came and I had an opportunity to see them together
Speaker 3: and I realized, oh my god, he's not flirting he's Italian,
Speaker 3: he's just he's just he's just loving an Italian. And
Speaker 3: then after that our relationship just you know, flew. You know,
Speaker 3: he was brilliant, and it was Sidney Pollack who was
Speaker 3: the executive producer, and Harvey Weinstein was ta Yeah. So
Speaker 3: Sydney passed away first and then Anthony passed soon after.
Speaker 3: You know, I tried to get the show to continue,
Speaker 3: but nobody was really interested. I don't know. I thought
Speaker 3: it was because the show was too positive. You know,
Speaker 3: there wasn't a bunch of disease and murder and you know,
Speaker 3: war and and aids. You know, it's just people being
Speaker 3: people in Africa, you know what I'm saying. Like it was,
Speaker 3: it wasn't enough death in destruction. So you know, this
Speaker 3: sweethearted show couldn't continue.
Speaker 2: Are there any ideas that you like to develop for.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's one light. No, But I've had my
Speaker 3: finger on one for quite some time at a few
Speaker 3: times trying to get somebody to pick it up. But
Speaker 3: it looks like I'm going to have to make a
Speaker 3: phone call to Yo, and I'm I'm working on it now,
Speaker 3: and I'm it's the right thing to do with all
Speaker 3: my heart it's the right thing to do. Wonderful story.
Speaker 3: How is it?
Speaker 4: What was involved me?
Speaker 3: She just told me it's involving you because I'm going
Speaker 3: to call you and ask you for some money. I'm
Speaker 3: also going to call you and ask you for some insight.
Speaker 7: No, I didn't know some trust for money or something
Speaker 7: right now, trust.
Speaker 2: It's it'd be a special said so, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's a very special project. And I know that I'm
Speaker 3: going to have to put in a lot of guts,
Speaker 3: A lot of guts.
Speaker 2: Is ready? Is it? Is it TV? Is it movie?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: What what kind of project? It's a film?
Speaker 3: A film?
Speaker 4: Yeah, A mer is ready. He's he's receiving well these days.
Speaker 4: Look at him.
Speaker 2: He owes you for keeping you in parents in the hotel.
Speaker 3: He left, You're.
Speaker 6: Standing in a halfway house. They was at them, They
Speaker 6: was at the rich call and they had you in
Speaker 6: the loking to and ship.
Speaker 4: And you know, for a year after that.
Speaker 3: He was like, I'm trying to tell you, I was
Speaker 3: so scared. I was so scared. I was like, Oh, they.
Speaker 2: Over charge that nigga for what he did to the
Speaker 2: phone crush year.
Speaker 3: It all works out. It really does.
Speaker 2: One thing. One thing I always wanted to ask you.
Speaker 6: Some of my favorite songs of yours are always just
Speaker 6: your short kind of interlude songs like Crown Royal and
Speaker 6: hear My Hear My Call.
Speaker 2: I think that's the right.
Speaker 6: I just those are just gorgeous fucking songs like what's
Speaker 6: your thought process and just making them short versus like
Speaker 6: full you know, I guess verse, chorus, bridge, whatever kind
Speaker 6: of songs.
Speaker 3: I think, when it's done, it's done. I just I
Speaker 3: just feel that way, like when it's done, it's done.
Speaker 3: Keep I could, you know, keep forcing the issue. But
Speaker 3: you know, when you bust it up, you did it alrey,
Speaker 3: you know necessarily you don't necessarily have to go back
Speaker 3: for more.
Speaker 2: It could be like that's what it was, it all right?
Speaker 2: Can I ask for hear My Call specifically?
Speaker 3: Is yeah, that was you? That was your idea?
Speaker 4: Oh he was starting for cretic go, I get it.
Speaker 2: No, not even is it still draining and emotional for
Speaker 2: you to sing it?
Speaker 1: Or do you have a she's out of my life
Speaker 1: relationship with it now where it's like you can phone
Speaker 1: it in if you want to, Like what if there's
Speaker 1: a night where you're just not in the mood to
Speaker 1: rock that song, but you know that there's expectations to
Speaker 1: or I've just never seen a song in which people
Speaker 1: are boohoo crying anytime. And I'm seeing you probably like
Speaker 1: seven times in concert, yeah, and mostly in the back
Speaker 1: row now because I'm sorry about that. Somehow they placed
Speaker 1: me like dead row, front row center, like Jill's first
Speaker 1: Philly show.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry it is to see. No, I'm just saying
Speaker 3: I won't do that to you. I'll try to make
Speaker 3: sure that they don't do that to him for it.
Speaker 2: No. No, I went to the back row because it
Speaker 2: was like, you.
Speaker 3: Don't want to be in the front row.
Speaker 2: I was in the front row, dead center, in front
Speaker 2: of you, and I was like.
Speaker 3: Oh god, why am I?
Speaker 1: My point is you're the reason why you're such an
Speaker 1: amazing performer is because it's it's it's heartfelt, and it's
Speaker 1: believable and it's authentic. That song, in particular, breaks people's
Speaker 1: hearts so much every time they hear it. Are there
Speaker 1: times where you're just like, Nope, no more, I'm not
Speaker 1: doing this anymore.
Speaker 2: Like smells like teen Spirit.
Speaker 3: They well, the audiences in Europe, they typically won't leave
Speaker 3: until I see it. They will not leave, no matter
Speaker 3: what I say, no matter how many lights come on.
Speaker 3: They're waiting for it. And I saw ridiculously I could
Speaker 3: barely finish the dance. You know, I those are the time?
Speaker 3: Why did you? Why did you write that? Why did
Speaker 3: you say that? Why damn it? And then record it
Speaker 3: and have the audacity to put it on a project
Speaker 3: so other people can hear it. But I feel like
Speaker 3: that's the work. You know, you want people to smile
Speaker 3: randomly or you know, flirt or be or feel in love,
Speaker 3: feel it, you know, and if you need to to
Speaker 3: mourn you something, there should be music for that too.
Speaker 3: There's music for cooking, there's music for cleaning, you know,
Speaker 3: there's there's all this good music. Luckily for us, you know,
Speaker 3: humanity and music we're so connected. And I struggled with that.
Speaker 3: You know, I typically sobbed myself and then you know,
Speaker 3: it's a whole audience full of tears and it just
Speaker 3: is what it is. And you know that means there's
Speaker 3: hugs to be given because I need to feel better
Speaker 3: and so to you, So you know, I typically come
Speaker 3: out and then you know, before COVID, you know, we
Speaker 3: held each other. It's just you know it's not my
Speaker 3: favorite to do the sad songs, but I'm here for it,
Speaker 3: and apparently the audience came forward to Man, I think
Speaker 3: it's well written. I have to give myself some credit
Speaker 3: on that. I think that my pen definitely poured out
Speaker 3: my heart at that time.
Speaker 4: Can you only sing your songs, Jill?
Speaker 3: You think I can't sing everybody songs? No?
Speaker 4: I mean a song written by someone else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can sing a song written by somebody else
Speaker 3: for me if it's for you, right, if.
Speaker 2: It's something got gotcha?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, I have a question. Okay, first, let me
Speaker 6: give your flowers for Rolling Heels. I love that song
Speaker 6: me to. I hope that's one. Maybe it'll be one
Speaker 6: of the ones for versus you know, we'll see, but
Speaker 6: I love that fucking song.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 3: It's so hard to choose because they're you know, they're
Speaker 3: asking me for twenty of my favorite songs, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: my my favorites are kind of obscure, sure, Like I don't.
Speaker 5: Know'm going on the danger zone, the danger zone, just
Speaker 5: the danger zone when when the artist picks out all
Speaker 5: these songs and don't realize that these have nothing to
Speaker 5: do with people, love but the people, And then you
Speaker 5: realize the reason for the record label. You go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't have one of those. I'm the saying, but
Speaker 5: what you're thinking, am I? Ah?
Speaker 3: My masters, our masters?
Speaker 2: Yes? Your masters? Wow? Dope? Yes, Okay, other question I
Speaker 2: had so hate on me.
Speaker 5: About.
Speaker 2: Yeah, forget shut up. We have confirmation.
Speaker 1: The turmoil and danger I've brought to your life. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: It's not true. It's not true at all.
Speaker 2: That was Thompson.
Speaker 3: That would be hilarious.
Speaker 5: It wanted to be such a mild, like no seating version,
Speaker 5: that would be hilarious, surviving weird toms.
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just joking.
Speaker 3: Got just what was her guitar player's name? We're in
Speaker 3: the hell?
Speaker 2: That was Dan was the guitar player.
Speaker 3: Wait minute, you're telling me she married Dan.
Speaker 2: She's just not married Dan.
Speaker 8: Somebody I believe you right now is in uh Brighton, Brighton, England.
Speaker 1: Last time I spoke to her, she was dating all right,
Speaker 1: who's singing that duet with Nana Cherry seven seconds?
Speaker 2: Uh? The African singer?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Nana Cherry's last big hit in like nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety eight.
Speaker 2: Uh uh yas door. Oh that's what you're saying. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I said, used to endure. That was your caricature moment.
Speaker 2: I didn't know you're speaking of tugs. That was amazing, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was. It was used to ending. Yeah, she was
Speaker 2: dating him. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like the last I heard, she was doing something with Spike,
Speaker 1: maybe a commercial with Spike.
Speaker 3: But I don't care who she's dating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't heard from I haven't heard from news
Speaker 1: probably since Rich died.
Speaker 2: Now, the last time I talked to her.
Speaker 4: Come on, man, what's the black Lily?
Speaker 5: Now? We loved her, you know, we need one. That
Speaker 5: was a great experience. Black Lily was awesome. Why do
Speaker 5: you say black lily?
Speaker 3: You just just need a sign that says all egos
Speaker 3: at the door, All ego at the door, same everything
Speaker 3: and all egos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be great, dude.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I know, I fucking Tracy knew, I
Speaker 1: mean Tracy Mercedes, like I see him all the.
Speaker 3: Time, it can happen. It's just so great.
Speaker 5: There's some lilyights that oh you know, they might wrap
Speaker 5: not saying okay, all right, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'll just be throwing names out there. I'm a slop. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 4: Jasmine down though I don't know.
Speaker 5: So were good, But we're talking about Black Lily. That's
Speaker 5: what I'm yeah, that's what I'm saying. Jasmine is Black
Speaker 5: Lily Asian forteen. That's Black Lily.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Agent performed the Black Lie.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well you know they yeah, they they would have ones.
Speaker 4: They really.
Speaker 2: Asian.
Speaker 1: Like by the time the first draft of Black Lily
Speaker 1: went on to like get record deals and stuff, they
Speaker 1: were like the they were like it was like toy story.
Speaker 2: They were the broken.
Speaker 1: Toys left behind and they all grouped up super powered
Speaker 1: and then became.
Speaker 2: And I was like, yo, what the fun happened? Like
Speaker 2: they started kicking our ass.
Speaker 5: They were who you look forward to singing every week
Speaker 5: and next thing, you know, yeah, they just thick up
Speaker 5: the kindred the family.
Speaker 3: So they're amazing.
Speaker 4: So we went.
Speaker 3: And they went to Hidden Beach.
Speaker 2: They did to be.
Speaker 3: Forgot.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so what happened with Hitten from your perspective, because
Speaker 6: just from a consumer side, they had you and like
Speaker 6: we were like, yes, Jill, like that was it was
Speaker 6: all jo Jo jail.
Speaker 2: Then they did the it was Brenda Russell. They did
Speaker 2: that album.
Speaker 4: They did The Brain.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a Paris Rain and then Rock Volume
Speaker 6: yeah one through eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like, what was your experience with them?
Speaker 6: How that relationship I guess kind of deteriorated on your side.
Speaker 2: It did.
Speaker 3: I thought that they had some really good artists on
Speaker 3: their Hidden Kendred being one of them. They you know,
Speaker 3: that's Kendred, and they're so talented and the songwriting is
Speaker 3: so good and their stage performance is so amazing. You
Speaker 3: need to put more money into Kendred. But I didn't
Speaker 3: have a say in what Hidden Beach did because they're
Speaker 3: the label. I'm not the label, and I didn't like that.
Speaker 3: I didn't like that, and that didn't feel good to
Speaker 3: me that I couldn't be of service in that way.
Speaker 3: You know. I watched them sign a lot of artists
Speaker 3: and I was like, what are you doing? What are
Speaker 3: you doing? And I thought I thought that we had
Speaker 3: a friendship. I thought that we had this this family
Speaker 3: thing that was happening. So when I realized it was
Speaker 3: just business, you know, I was really disappointed. And then
Speaker 3: President Obama was I was working on being in office
Speaker 3: and and everything was about the election, and they weren't
Speaker 3: being supportive and I didn't feel like they were helping
Speaker 3: me at all with radio. I didn't realize until later
Speaker 3: on how much everything that occurred had to do with
Speaker 3: my effort. So, you know, I'm coming up with the album,
Speaker 3: I'm working out the images, I'm you know, handing out flyers,
Speaker 3: I'm you know, I did a lot coming up with
Speaker 3: every idea. I designed the videos. The first you know,
Speaker 3: three videos, I was like, I'm dism what I do.
Speaker 3: I'm tired. Can somebody else, you know, like I can't
Speaker 3: do it all? And then you know, go to these
Speaker 3: I had pneumonia I think like three times in two
Speaker 3: years because I toured that first two years without balance.
Speaker 3: That's one of the things with young artists. I'm like, yes, absolutely,
Speaker 3: go out there and do the hustle, but you have
Speaker 3: to have a balance or you will lose your mind
Speaker 3: and you will lose your health. And the goal is longevity.
Speaker 3: It's Frankie Beverly, that Middler longevity out here, and that's
Speaker 3: what I'm rich. That's what I'm saying, that's who I want,
Speaker 3: that's what I want. And I thought I was killing
Speaker 3: myself trying to, you know, make it work for the label.
Speaker 3: And I was like, so I left, and you know,
Speaker 3: I think the last number was like they tried to
Speaker 3: see me for like nineteen million?
Speaker 2: What under on what grounds that I left?
Speaker 3: That I was leaving? And I had a couple of
Speaker 3: records too, left on the contract left on that Yeah,
Speaker 3: and yeah, I was like family, huh.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I saw Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, ni let's
Speaker 6: talk about it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 5: So that ship they put out, the Jill Scott the
Speaker 5: duets and ship, Yeah, like what was I mean that
Speaker 5: felt kind of just as a fan, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 5: this feels a little shady, But what was the story
Speaker 5: behind it? The albums that they put out, the Hidden
Speaker 5: Beach records that they put out.
Speaker 3: It certainly didn't feel good to me. And it wasn't
Speaker 3: like I had any thing to say, you know, I
Speaker 3: had no say so in them, you know, so you know,
Speaker 3: moving on.
Speaker 4: So technically I'm.
Speaker 5: Just saying I just want to know I'm doing this right.
Speaker 5: So technically, if I'm a real Joe Scott fan, I
Speaker 5: buy up into the live album and then the rest of.
Speaker 2: The all right, yeah, okay, more, Okay.
Speaker 6: I like this son anyway. I like like, yeah, Joe Hudson,
Speaker 6: that's my nigga. Like he's fucking dope.
Speaker 2: That record.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, you're talking about Crown Royal, Crown Royal Imagination.
Speaker 3: I love that song and the song I did with
Speaker 3: George Benson. Whenever you're around. I love that Like I'm
Speaker 3: gonna need somebody to call me because I just love
Speaker 3: what I love.
Speaker 4: I can help you.
Speaker 2: I can help you now I do. This is what
Speaker 2: I do. I mean, it's just battle rap, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 4: So what about the four Hero Songs? You all think
Speaker 4: she should include that in there, because I do.
Speaker 2: I love that song.
Speaker 6: I was about to ask you about that because Mark
Speaker 6: Mack that's my nigga. But I love that song. I
Speaker 6: love that song, man. I think that the way you
Speaker 6: plan your versus is, first off, you gotta think of
Speaker 6: what the other artist's biggest songs are and think counter
Speaker 6: that way what you're gonna counter it with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how you say. So y'all, if you already
Speaker 2: know her Haymakers. If you already know her Haymakers, then
Speaker 2: you know then what is what I can do?
Speaker 6: And you got to think of your songs that you
Speaker 6: can use to.
Speaker 2: To get her to drop some bullshit.
Speaker 3: But you got to understand that I'm thinking about the
Speaker 3: my audience like my min the people that come to
Speaker 3: my shows like they they know ship, they oh shit
Speaker 3: and can't wait for that moment.
Speaker 6: But you but this though, I say, you can't think
Speaker 6: about your audience. You kind of got to almost think
Speaker 6: of the demographic that's gonna be on I G Live
Speaker 6: and it may or may not be the same people.
Speaker 6: So it's like you got to think about it from
Speaker 6: the standpoint of like all right, because I was talking
Speaker 6: about this on Twitter the other day, it's like who
Speaker 6: picking a winner? And I put that in very loose
Speaker 6: quotation marks because I mean, we love both of y'all,
Speaker 6: and so there's no thank you.
Speaker 2: I mean, no, no one loses.
Speaker 6: I mean this is a celebration, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's for the culture. Yeah, I know what.
Speaker 3: I love the way the Riza and DJ Premier did theirs.
Speaker 3: I think that's my favorite one, being Teddy Riley at
Speaker 3: jail right now, it's all about not.
Speaker 4: And so what I want to say to Jill because
Speaker 4: I don't know if she's aware, but you do know.
Speaker 5: That Erica is up on her Techi ship right now,
Speaker 5: right like she's got her own streaming service.
Speaker 4: She's performing in bubbles and ship like that.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, the energy you bring right now is
Speaker 2: like instigating.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, this is fuck. I love both
Speaker 4: of them. I love both. I mean Jails my sister,
Speaker 4: but I love both of the music. Whatever.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying is that I just want her to
Speaker 5: understand who she's playing against, because I don't know if
Speaker 5: she's been, you know, playing attention, she been in her
Speaker 5: COVID world. So I'm just saying that Erica's gonna come
Speaker 5: with technology. And do you think, Amir Fonte, Bill Steve,
Speaker 5: that Jill should fight back with.
Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, all you have to do is, Jill, listen.
Speaker 6: Here's the thing about versus. All right, here's the mentality
Speaker 6: of versus. And all right, yeah, here's here's our unsolicited corner,
Speaker 6: your corner.
Speaker 2: People. You need to come, so listen.
Speaker 6: Here's the thing. The thing that makes versus work. Versus
Speaker 6: is all about Yo. These rich niggas are stuck in
Speaker 6: their crib looking at their phone, just like us.
Speaker 2: That's what makes it work. Like that's the draw. The
Speaker 2: draw is.
Speaker 6: We're looking at celebrities and people who have done all
Speaker 6: these great things. They're stuck inside their homes And this
Speaker 6: is entertainment for us just as it is for them.
Speaker 2: I'm not fucking famous. I'm just I'm regular.
Speaker 6: But anyway, So so that's the thing, so hold on, well,
Speaker 6: I certainly will. So the thing is you can take
Speaker 6: it to your car, like you can play records in
Speaker 6: your car if you want to. Anything that makes it
Speaker 6: look more intimate and makes it feel more like the audience.
Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, on the mountaintop, So do it in
Speaker 2: your kitchen, and that ship.
Speaker 6: Is gonna be like, Nigga, why are you in the
Speaker 6: bubble on the mountaintop?
Speaker 2: I have I have another thing to add to it.
Speaker 1: Sensing you might need a quasi haymaker that isn't below
Speaker 1: the belt, I would actually have.
Speaker 2: This is bad. I say.
Speaker 1: That when she hits you, I think when she hits you,
Speaker 1: she has three haymakers. Tyrone's one of them. I feel
Speaker 1: like on and one is one of them on the other
Speaker 1: side of the game.
Speaker 6: Now okay, I would say, I don't think the other side.
Speaker 6: I think the other side is one. I would say
Speaker 6: more so next lifetime, Like that's probably the closest.
Speaker 1: So my thing is when she hits with Tyrone, whatever
Speaker 1: you play next, I wish you had a TV track
Speaker 1: version of it, and you say it live.
Speaker 5: Here you go, it's too much, too much.
Speaker 9: Technical elements, right, you're doing too much. Paper Bill said it,
Speaker 9: Paper is do it.
Speaker 6: You do it too much. People just want to see
Speaker 6: you drop the jams. They want to see you drop
Speaker 6: the jam.
Speaker 5: Will say, if you pick up your judget teddy roddy guitar,
Speaker 5: just start saying things with your voice outside of adding
Speaker 5: technical thing, because but you will, Jill, that's a fucking haymaker.
Speaker 4: Your voice is.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, but that's the thing live.
Speaker 1: If she just whatever device, if there's Fender Road, if
Speaker 1: there's a Fender off, Fender Road's version of He Loves Me,
Speaker 1: and she does that ship live, you think I will
Speaker 1: throw my phone.
Speaker 6: No, because that's the thing because when I was doing
Speaker 6: I've kind of been doing like cards for all these battles.
Speaker 2: The thing with Erica, Okay, Erica.
Speaker 6: Has to survive Jill's first If she's survived Jill's first
Speaker 6: album and Golden, she might have a chance.
Speaker 2: The only problem is that Jill.
Speaker 6: Your first album, and I said this on Twitter, your
Speaker 6: first album is.
Speaker 2: A fucking mind feeld. Anything you can drop, you can
Speaker 2: drop something off that ship. She can drop the entire
Speaker 2: album like real.
Speaker 6: Strategically you can drop honey a lift and just be like,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, like for real, for real,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So the thing is like
Speaker 6: the big ones, you have to worry about Erica. Yeah,
Speaker 6: mirrors right, Tyrone is her haymaker, h Tyro. I think
Speaker 6: Tyrone will be that on and on next slight Time
Speaker 6: and Badism as much as Badism is a classic and
Speaker 6: I love it and I still you know, Bism is
Speaker 6: very top heavy.
Speaker 2: All the smokers on Satday like.
Speaker 6: Side B is, I mean, there's nothing bad on it
Speaker 6: and it's remember that, remember nah nigga, say is that's
Speaker 6: where all the smoker is?
Speaker 2: That's where at But who is Jill Scott like nigga?
Speaker 2: That album?
Speaker 6: Nigga from one to god damn slowly, surely it ain't
Speaker 6: not one miss on that whole So.
Speaker 2: She got damn.
Speaker 5: Let me let me ask you this, what are the
Speaker 5: outside of album cuts that Jill should be including in
Speaker 5: the verse?
Speaker 2: Okay? This d this day it Nah? No, don't they dream?
Speaker 6: No, don't dream because because that because to the audience,
Speaker 6: one that wasn't like me, It wasn't a big record, like,
Speaker 6: so it's like this and then you got jams.
Speaker 3: I'm listening the work best to stay out of all
Speaker 3: of this.
Speaker 4: And you're in it now, so.
Speaker 6: You're not jam all right, Listen, you better hit them
Speaker 6: niggas that got them Crown Royal.
Speaker 2: Because because things here my hear my call, that could
Speaker 2: be a haymaker for you.
Speaker 6: Like I think if we're talking haymakers like Golden, I
Speaker 6: think it's probably like the haymaker, like you ain't getting
Speaker 6: up from that whenever you drop that, because that's just
Speaker 6: that was a monster record. Don't waste Golden, don't know,
Speaker 6: don't waste it. No, no, no, So you gotta go
Speaker 6: hear my call. You got Crown Royal, you got rolling heels,
Speaker 6: you got damn. What's on the second album?
Speaker 2: H Golden?
Speaker 6: I like, no, no, no, but it's another. What's the one?
Speaker 6: I like spring summer feeling? I don't know if I
Speaker 6: would you. I like that one whenever yeah, my love
Speaker 6: sweeter tighter, like yeah, nigga, yeah you got that.
Speaker 2: Better at Home.
Speaker 4: Don't sleep on Better at Home?
Speaker 2: I did like I love.
Speaker 5: That terrible sweet yeah sweet summer feelings about your music
Speaker 5: right now?
Speaker 4: You okay?
Speaker 2: Oh God really, so that.
Speaker 6: Here's the thing, here's the breakdown, and you can just
Speaker 6: use this information I have you. This is the thing
Speaker 6: with between like with Erica and Jail Battle. So like
Speaker 6: Erica is more so like your your career, Jill, you've
Speaker 6: kind of leaned more into like the adult like contemporary
Speaker 6: what would be like urban ac kind of lane Erica's
Speaker 6: records over the last couple of years, her last few records,
Speaker 6: she's kind of going deeper more just in the hip
Speaker 6: hop and kind of being I think a little more experimental.
Speaker 6: But the thing with that is it just kind of
Speaker 6: depends on demographics. So to the contingent of people that
Speaker 6: I refer to as the Ascot battalions. The last two albums, yeah,
Speaker 6: the rolland Mard like them, the Boulet Niggas. Erica's last
Speaker 6: two records didn't really connect with them. They don't know
Speaker 6: like New America them niggas lost from the video. They
Speaker 6: know just but that's it. But that's it.
Speaker 3: There were a lot of people in the world. There's
Speaker 3: a lot of people listening period. You don't know who's what.
Speaker 6: Vers but for versus that's the thing, right, it's the
Speaker 6: It's one thing if we're fighting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, jail niggas. I'm sorry, Bill. Even Steve doesn't make
Speaker 4: an attempt.
Speaker 2: So anyway, that's our unsolicited advice. Yeah, we will give
Speaker 2: it Erica the same advice, just to be equal.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because you like your catalog you got. I think
Speaker 6: you have more in the tank than she is. And
Speaker 6: if you can get her to play her big cards early,
Speaker 6: I think you're just gonna win just off being able
Speaker 6: to go the distance alone.
Speaker 1: I think Erica would actually try to play her eccentric cards.
Speaker 1: I don't think she'll play the obvious cards. I bet
Speaker 1: you on and On won't even come until.
Speaker 2: Like Light and Layton. Yeah, that would be smart. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, but but then, but what she gonna play
Speaker 2: before that?
Speaker 6: I mean, like she's gonna play Gone Baby, Don't Be Long,
Speaker 6: which I love that song.
Speaker 2: But I mean, you're talking.
Speaker 3: About one of my favorite artists.
Speaker 4: Okay, but back.
Speaker 3: It appears to be the case.
Speaker 4: That's how norright.
Speaker 2: Listen, this is the right attitude. I don't we don't
Speaker 2: want to. We don't even want to imply that we're
Speaker 2: leaning one way or the other. No, it's not a
Speaker 2: cat fight. I don't want to tell you.
Speaker 4: I want to be an equal playing field, is all
Speaker 4: I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. That's what I'm gonna be.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be a great We're here to celebrate both
Speaker 6: of y'all.
Speaker 4: If you start to sing in line and ship is
Speaker 4: a when I'm just.
Speaker 3: Gonna But the thing is, you know me, I'm I'm
Speaker 3: really organic about all the stuff that I do. You
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like, I want to be honest,
Speaker 3: and if it comes to that and I feel like
Speaker 3: I feel like singing, then that's what's gonna happening. Yes,
Speaker 3: that's right.
Speaker 8: Oh, I feel ever, you know, really be dirty, you know,
Speaker 8: really you're.
Speaker 2: Singing Erica song?
Speaker 5: Song?
Speaker 3: Was going?
Speaker 2: Which one? I mean, I'm trying today. What you think
Speaker 2: Erica would ever play the next lifetime?
Speaker 3: She wouldn't.
Speaker 2: If she's smart, she will better play that ship certainly, certainly.
Speaker 2: Oh you think Jill singing? Certainly?
Speaker 4: Because that technically so you certainly it's not her song? Certainly.
Speaker 2: Oh No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 2: You can't. I don't think I think that. I'm in
Speaker 2: the house with with with beams.
Speaker 4: And saying when you said you made that suggestion, did
Speaker 4: she look at you crazy?
Speaker 3: Y'all living for a war.
Speaker 4: She's just speaking for a celebration, celebration.
Speaker 2: I want to be clear.
Speaker 3: It is a celebration we're celebrating, y'all, not a war.
Speaker 4: You're hugging the tree right exactly. You hugging the tree
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 6: You need help putting your playlist together, Jill, hit me up.
Speaker 6: I will gladly curate help you whatever, like just as
Speaker 6: a because because we all need it, like as a fan,
Speaker 6: as an artist, like we have our favorites, but then
Speaker 6: it's like, okay, what resonated with the people, and sometimes
Speaker 6: that may not be the same thing. So if you
Speaker 6: just need an outside perspective, I gladly offer my services.
Speaker 3: As I.
Speaker 5: Know that y'all are friends and sisters and whatnot, but
Speaker 5: that don't that don't mean that in this battle, we
Speaker 5: got to be like, sister, I love you, gir I
Speaker 5: love you to girl, I love you girl. I look,
Speaker 5: oh my god, please don't love me to call.
Speaker 2: It a battle, Oh my god. We we just want
Speaker 2: one round of mutual respect.
Speaker 4: Baby face, jail, baby face.
Speaker 2: I don't baby face. Keep it. Baby face. So he's
Speaker 2: shady face. He had all the shade, all right, So
Speaker 2: That's that's it for our unsolicited advice. Yes, thanks, and
Speaker 2: we only do it because we love you and we don't.
Speaker 6: It's not a shadows, it's a clebration.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you said, one one, one round of mutual and
Speaker 3: then war.
Speaker 1: You know, make sure make sure no one has their
Speaker 1: phones on using your Wi Fi when you do this.
Speaker 1: Make sure everyone goes into airport mode so that you're
Speaker 1: the only person using.
Speaker 4: What about that that SoundBite of the Black Party when
Speaker 4: it goes Jill?
Speaker 5: Are you saying you have to say I was a joking?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: All right, Jesus Christ, all right, Jill, No I Jill,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we had you know what, you know
Speaker 1: what it is weird. I wish you did have a
Speaker 1: new album coming out twenty years later called I Am
Speaker 1: Jill Scott.
Speaker 4: That's a good idea.
Speaker 1: I can't say enough how much you've literally changed my life,
Speaker 1: and you're in that was your first attempt. I'm never
Speaker 1: going to get over that. Like I have a whole respect.
Speaker 1: I just oh, I just the fact is I need you.
Speaker 1: I couldn't remember the second songs. The fact is I
Speaker 1: need you because you said staying probably your thing, nigga,
Speaker 1: you start with that comes over. That was that's that
Speaker 1: was a hard hitting hole right there, cause.
Speaker 5: I didn't even have a baby, now what Yeah, you
Speaker 5: was doing things and make them. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, the one in Paris is my favorite. Live in Paris,
Speaker 3: rasseaul in Paris, that's my favorite. Yeah, Yeah, I love there,
Speaker 3: I love I wanted. I wanted to go to Paris
Speaker 3: so bad. I had a residency there and at the
Speaker 3: Australian Opera House. It was it was happening. I was
Speaker 3: so excited, damn covid Nam that.
Speaker 4: What you was going to do? What about movies?
Speaker 5: Jill?
Speaker 3: Were you gonna you was in the process of I mean,
Speaker 3: there's a there was plenty of things. This was a
Speaker 3: good working year. We'll see what We'll see what happens later.
Speaker 2: But you know, on the other side of that coin,
Speaker 2: this is a refreshment.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a chance to refresh and and get
Speaker 1: our creativity back and and and rest.
Speaker 2: It's a big reset man.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I want to ask you your We didn't talk about
Speaker 6: your role in the James raw movie Get On Up
Speaker 6: so much?
Speaker 3: M What about it?
Speaker 6: Was it a positive experience? Was it in terms of
Speaker 6: your growth as an actress? Like, did you feel that
Speaker 6: it was something that you, you know, you had to
Speaker 6: rise to the challenge or did it kind of feel
Speaker 6: like none put his hands on you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like that.
Speaker 5: You didn't see it though, Wow, I didn't.
Speaker 3: He didn't actually touch you. Didn't see him touch me.
Speaker 3: I just made you think he did. But damn that
Speaker 3: that that movie actually is. I'm just the one I
Speaker 3: wish I could do over. I wish I could do
Speaker 3: that one over.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I learned after what I should have done, and
Speaker 3: I'm disappointed by that.
Speaker 2: What do you think you did wrong?
Speaker 3: I should have punched him in his mouth. I should
Speaker 3: have fought him. I should have fast fought him.
Speaker 4: Is that what she did?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Damn I went with I went with what was
Speaker 3: written and instead I should have I should have fought him,
Speaker 3: And I'm disappointed, Like, I really wish I could go
Speaker 3: back to do that over. So I learned again about
Speaker 3: homework and how important it is to to do the
Speaker 3: home work. You know, so even if nobody else understands it, well,
Speaker 3: you want everybody to understand it, but you have to
Speaker 3: be be that guy. If that's the generals, be that guy.
Speaker 3: I don't think I was that guy as much as
Speaker 3: I would want to be. So that's the only role
Speaker 3: I've had started like disappoints me.
Speaker 6: Did you think that not hitting him, do you think
Speaker 6: that made the character look weaker or like?
Speaker 2: What was your what was your reasoning behind it?
Speaker 3: I thought that she was so in love with him.
Speaker 3: In fact, Dedie Brown is still in love with James
Speaker 3: Brown today. She was so overwhelmingly in love with him that,
Speaker 3: you know, that's the part that I highlighted. She was
Speaker 3: just almost obsessed with him. But she did have some
Speaker 3: spunk and some fighting her And I wish he had
Speaker 3: punched him in the mouth. I wish I had allowed her,
Speaker 3: you know, in the film to punich him in the mouth.
Speaker 3: He deserved it, yeah, and it would have represented her
Speaker 3: a little better than what I did.
Speaker 2: So so you talked an you went there and got
Speaker 2: to know her as to develop.
Speaker 3: Yeah, beforehand and.
Speaker 2: Encouragement of the director and.
Speaker 3: The production that was that was on my own. I
Speaker 3: there was a young man working on set. I can't
Speaker 3: remember what he did, but he told me that that
Speaker 3: was his grandmother, and I was like, you gotta, you
Speaker 3: gotta get me in touch with your grandma, you know,
Speaker 3: because they were on the NEWLYWT game together. So I
Speaker 3: got a chance to see her ways, but I didn't
Speaker 3: get a chance to It's on it's online, it's on YouTube.
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, they.
Speaker 2: Want they used to the seventies.
Speaker 3: They were real cute, They're real cute. They absolutely enjoyed
Speaker 3: each other. But they thought. They definitely thought, and he
Speaker 3: was whooping ass and I get I got it, like
Speaker 3: I got it. You could. I could see how someone
Speaker 3: could totally totally be like in love with this guy
Speaker 3: and enjoyably suppressed. He's powerful. He's a powerful man. That
Speaker 3: ain't for me to dam bushing your sleep.
Speaker 2: Any for you any thoughts of writing your memoir?
Speaker 3: I think about it often. I think people would be
Speaker 3: completely surprised of how I got here and how I
Speaker 3: am able to stay here. Yeah, I think about it often.
Speaker 3: There's a lot good.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like the journey is still happening for
Speaker 1: you to even start writing your memoir?
Speaker 3: If I just wrote the first fifteen years, if I
Speaker 3: just I remember being in the womb, If I could
Speaker 3: write I remember being in the womb, If I wrote
Speaker 3: the first fifteen years of this existence, it would be crazy.
Speaker 3: People would not leave any of it. It's half mythology
Speaker 3: and folkalore with these brilliant sprinkles of simple is crazy.
Speaker 3: My existence has been you gotta do.
Speaker 2: You have to do it like James Taylor. James Taylor
Speaker 2: worked backwards. So he just released his life between.
Speaker 1: Birth and twenty one, like maybe two months ago, but
Speaker 1: you know, started with the end of his life. Once
Speaker 1: he like rehabbed himself and got his life together. Then
Speaker 1: the project before is like the hell he went through
Speaker 1: as James Taylor, and then the real hell he went
Speaker 1: through from childhood to twenty one that got him to
Speaker 1: be a heroin Addict and all that stuff. Like him
Speaker 1: telling the story backwards almost is cinematically maybe telling your
Speaker 1: story backwards in that way from.
Speaker 3: Zero to twenty one or I.
Speaker 1: Mean, I am because I think people feel like the
Speaker 1: need to release their entire life story in one.
Speaker 3: I could do it. I could do it like my
Speaker 3: own jelo okay pieces pieces at the time.
Speaker 5: It's funny we're having that conversation when we try to
Speaker 5: get like somebody's whole life story on like an hour and.
Speaker 1: Start so well, Jill, I thank you uh for doing
Speaker 1: this and thank you for having me your artistry, and
Speaker 1: we don't even have to call Jill anymore for that's right.
Speaker 5: I still think she needs to do like a drunk Hollywood.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to say holiday episode or something like in person.
Speaker 5: I just a drunk holiday man.
Speaker 2: Christmas, Jill Man, listen about cigarettes.
Speaker 4: No more drunk, no more drunk.
Speaker 3: I don't want no more drunk other things, you know whatever.
Speaker 5: That's what we do too, that Christmas upside down.
Speaker 6: I just forgot last music question. I know, Jill, okay,
Speaker 6: it's a shame record. The A Group, Yes, is that
Speaker 6: you under or is that another group of singers?
Speaker 3: Aren't they amazing? Oh god, I can't remember everybody's name,
Speaker 3: it's been so long. I know one was Keisha ship.
Speaker 3: I feel bad. The A Group. They were singers that
Speaker 3: sang together all the time and uh Keisha Renee. And
Speaker 3: I heard them. I was like, would you mind playing
Speaker 3: with me? And they did? They were I just loved them.
Speaker 3: They were incredible. I can't believe I've forgotten all of
Speaker 3: their names. It'll hit me later.
Speaker 2: And three four three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just were amazing. They reminded me very much
Speaker 3: of the the emotions. It's like, yes, and Aretha Franklin's
Speaker 3: background singers. You know that they had that which I needed.
Speaker 4: Since spont circle back to shame.
Speaker 5: I just want to say you and Eve, do y'all
Speaker 5: ever circle back and have these conversations of how y'all
Speaker 5: are so connected?
Speaker 4: Okay? I was just we did okay, okay, we did.
Speaker 3: We shot with this ring together with Regina Hall and
Speaker 3: Brooklyn South Dono, and we had a chance to just
Speaker 3: kick it on, you know, kick.
Speaker 4: It every day.
Speaker 3: So we talked about it how that song changed our
Speaker 3: lives and here we are these years. That's what I
Speaker 3: was infronting, but changes lives. That's because that's what the
Speaker 3: roots do. I mean, without your guidance, I mean.
Speaker 4: Stop, stop, take this compliment, Take this compliment, Take this compliment.
Speaker 3: Put Without your guidance and your vision, you know, so
Speaker 3: many artists wouldn't have a career right now, and you
Speaker 3: picked artists that all have longevity. And for Josh, including yourself. Well,
Speaker 3: when she did the video that was just like a
Speaker 3: long walk. I was over her and I was motherfucker.
Speaker 3: That was your one long mistake. But that's okay, because
Speaker 3: we forgive you for what you have. Guest blessed us.
Speaker 2: What what was just just.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, yeah, and Rafaela dec not for she did.
Speaker 2: She did. She did a video biting a long walk exactly.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, I was like, what.
Speaker 2: About shut up?
Speaker 4: The one that you playing in the drums in the video.
Speaker 2: That's because at the time my girlfriend asked me to
Speaker 2: be in that video because she was the director.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, and you ain't in it.
Speaker 3: And she she was the director on With This Ring.
Speaker 5: Wow, And she's a director on my new favorite show
Speaker 5: with Carrie Washington and Reese butherspoon.
Speaker 3: I'm watching that's watching it, but it's watching it.
Speaker 2: It is kind of both.
Speaker 3: I'm both of those. Do you feel like you're both
Speaker 3: of those women?
Speaker 4: And well, if I'm lucky enough to be reading, I
Speaker 4: definitely feel Carrie's pain.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I see you feel like I'm I feel
Speaker 5: like I'm both of them. And that's that's great, you know,
Speaker 5: just being able to relate.
Speaker 4: I can see them both ends.
Speaker 3: I think it's really cool. I love that show.
Speaker 4: Don't funk with their kids either way, don't do that.
Speaker 3: Don't do that.
Speaker 6: All right, So for the fourth time, any last question,
Speaker 6: last I have thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: Jill, thank you. Yeah that first I.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: It was it was.
Speaker 3: Bill Hi.
Speaker 2: Get get her on Sesame Street. You haven't anytime?
Speaker 3: She yes, I've done. She cried most of the time.
Speaker 2: Most of the time, so you worked with Okay, I
Speaker 2: wasn't there. This is before my time.
Speaker 3: It was awesome, was the music director.
Speaker 6: You gotta get Jill back on says the street to
Speaker 6: talk about being in the wound.
Speaker 2: I want to hear all about it. I said, if anything,
Speaker 2: if anything, she could probably do the We try to
Speaker 2: do a loaf of bread and a stick of butter
Speaker 2: with Solange and it didn't air at all? Bill it
Speaker 2: did it?
Speaker 8: Did it?
Speaker 2: Finally signed the release? Yeah somewhere, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh, okay, I gotta watch that. She's not gonna do
Speaker 5: ship did she did with somebody else? She's gonna do
Speaker 5: her own.
Speaker 1: Know that song is a staple loaf of bread containing
Speaker 1: milk and a stick of butter. But at the time
Speaker 1: I thought, I thought Solange xnated.
Speaker 3: So I loved my experience on Sesame Street. It was wonderful.
Speaker 3: By the time mister snuffle Up with Snuffle Up a
Speaker 3: Gus walked out, I just I could not stop crying.
Speaker 3: I was I couldn't stop crying. I was talking to
Speaker 3: the what's his name Jesus, I'm terrible with names. Kevin.
Speaker 3: I was talking to Kevin, the guy who was playing Elmo. Yes,
Speaker 3: I was talking to the brother. We're just standing there wrapping.
Speaker 3: He put Almo on his hand. I forgot the man
Speaker 3: was there. Started hugging the man's hand in the puppet,
Speaker 3: talking only to the man's who. I forgot the man
Speaker 3: was there. That's how magical it was, Just like Boeing.
Speaker 4: It was great.
Speaker 3: I got in the I got in the nest, I
Speaker 3: got in the trash can, I worked in the store.
Speaker 3: I did it all. I hung out the window, I
Speaker 3: did it all.
Speaker 2: Street the fiftieth anniversary on HBO has it. Oh sweet, okay,
Speaker 2: I gotta see it. You think you you think you're
Speaker 2: get married again? You? Oh, ship? You think you will?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is she joining us? Going into the compound?
Speaker 5: Ship?
Speaker 2: You can.
Speaker 6: Amir Henrickson. That man living in the House of Reclaimed,
Speaker 6: would he living in his best life?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: I mean eating ladies and gentlemen R and B.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Bill Dream Dream and my third wife Joe Scott, Yes,
Speaker 10: not me.
Speaker 2: Hold on the.
Speaker 5: Second one, Grace, Oh, the first one.
Speaker 8: I'll tell you it goes off the air anyway.
Speaker 3: It's not so great. I'm your third wife.
Speaker 9: Oh it happens, big love.
Speaker 2: Here we go, living, living is big love, not question.
Speaker 1: Nice, but thank you, Thank you for doing the show
Speaker 1: on behalf of the entire team Supreme.
Speaker 2: We say thank you and we will see you on
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