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Speaker 1: Welcome back in hour number two, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we

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Speaker 1: are powering through the Friday edition of the program. Hope

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Speaker 1: Program with you anywhere you may be headed in the world. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mentioned a couple of different things that I wanted

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Speaker 1: We've got a couple of guests coming up next hour.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk with Sam Brown, who is the

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Speaker 1: Senate candidate for the Republican Party in Nevada, battleground state

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Speaker 1: out there that is basically dead even between Trump and

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Speaker 1: Kamala and we're going to talk with Sam Brown out there.

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Speaker 1: Also Kurt Cameron, legendary I think it's fair to say

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Speaker 1: Star of Growing Pains will be with us at two thirty,

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Speaker 1: both of those guests in the final hour. All right, Buck,

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Speaker 1: We have been talking quite a lot about the situation

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Speaker 1: in the Midwest, not only in Pennsylvania, where you can

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Speaker 1: begin voting next week. I mean, that's crazy. We basically

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Speaker 1: have fifty days of voting that's going to be going

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Speaker 1: on in Pennsylvania, which is probably the biggest and most

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Speaker 1: important battleground state of them all. And we encourage you

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Speaker 1: on this program to vote early because as soon as

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Speaker 1: you bank your ballot, that allows the outreach for the

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Speaker 1: Trump team to focus on other voters that they believe

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Speaker 1: are likely to support them that may not have done so.

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Speaker 1: I understand that a lot of you want to wait

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Speaker 1: until election day. I've traditionally been an election day voter

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Speaker 1: vote on election day.

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Speaker 2: I'm voting the.

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Speaker 1: Absolute first day that I can in the state of Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: which is October sixteenth. I'm getting my ballot taken care of,

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Speaker 1: I'm walking in, I'm early voting Trump Blackburn, Mark Green

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Speaker 1: is my congressman. Boom boom boom, So you know, how

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Speaker 1: I'm voting in President, Senate, and Congress. I'll be done,

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Speaker 1: and then I'm going to continue to encourage all of

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Speaker 1: you to go out in early vote. But there is

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Speaker 1: a battle right now in Michigan that could be very consequential,

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Speaker 1: and I want to share those details with you. But

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Speaker 1: first I want to tell you about a story posted

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Speaker 1: by CNN today that is I think very important because

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Speaker 1: it gives you an idea of what the Kamala teams

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Speaker 1: to read a couple of paragraphs for you from that

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Speaker 1: From that piece, Again, this was out earlier today, came

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Speaker 1: out this morning from CNN Bucket Eye. By the way,

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Speaker 1: in the first hour, I so want to echo this.

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Speaker 1: We want all of you to be getting out there

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Speaker 1: and making a tremendous difference in your communities. But also

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Speaker 1: we want Trump going to Springfield, Ohio and having conversations

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Speaker 1: with all of those voters that are there right now.

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Speaker 1: CNN reading from that story this morning. At a leadership

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Speaker 1: retreat for Top AIDS in Wilmington last week, Jen O'Malley Dylon,

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Speaker 1: campaign chair of Joe Biden, also retained by Kamala Harris

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Speaker 1: went through the battleground states and warned them that there

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Speaker 1: and seventy electoral votes. I'm reading from CNN Pennsylvania. The

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Speaker 1: They say Nevada and Georgia are both possible. They feel

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Speaker 2: And they said.

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Speaker 1: Right now, if the election were held again I'm reading

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Speaker 1: these are based on the internal numbers.

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Speaker 1: This ties in with what you and I said in

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Speaker 1: the wake of the debate. Almost immediately Kamalas said, hey,

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Speaker 1: but four when RFK Junior is included, Kamala wins by

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Speaker 1: off the ballot. Look what they do, not what they say.

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Speaker 1: They know that Michigan may come down to a few

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Speaker 1: even though RFK Junior is not going to be running,

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Speaker 1: this is a big deal, and this goes to how

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Speaker 2: Going to be a close race. Everybody. We know that.

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Speaker 3: There's no way around it. Even if you had a

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Speaker 3: Trump run the table situation in the swing states from

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Speaker 3: my lips to God's ears, right, even if you had

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Speaker 3: that happen and the electoral College would show a very

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Speaker 3: substantial win, the vote totals in these states are not

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Speaker 3: going to be hugely different. Now hugely. I know there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of wiggle room in there. But you know,

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Speaker 3: if Trump would if Trump, given what happened the last

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Speaker 3: or Pennsylvania by fifty to one hundred thousand votes, let's

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Speaker 3: just say, that would be really substantial.

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Speaker 1: That would be a landslide relative to what we've seen

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Speaker 3: My points is being that's actually not many votes when

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Speaker 1: And it would be a landslide. Honestly, if he won

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Speaker 3: So this is all Everything is being determined here on

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Speaker 3: campaigns Now, I think the RFK factor in Michigan is interesting. Look,

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Speaker 3: reasons he stepped down and endorsed Trump was that he said,

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Speaker 3: he said this not just people. He said, I'm taking

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Speaker 3: more votes from Trump than asked and Kamala, which, if

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Speaker 3: you think about it as he's made more sense. RFK Junior,

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Speaker 3: what's his what's his like one line value proposition to

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Speaker 2: It would be, you know, sort.

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Speaker 3: Of smashing the system and uh and defying the corporatism,

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Speaker 3: particularly in you know, big pharma, but corporatism more generally

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Speaker 3: that has become far too powerful a force in America

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Speaker 3: period and certainly in American politics right that's going to

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Speaker 3: were going to get voting RFK who were Democrats, I

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Speaker 3: think were really disaffected with the fact that Biden sucks.

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Speaker 3: He's bad at this right, He's had a stinky four

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Speaker 3: years in office. It has not been good, and he's

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Speaker 3: got dementia, and the whole thing is insulting Kamala in

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Speaker 3: the mix, I think I think a lot of those

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Speaker 3: all right, you know, she's at you know, her brain

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Speaker 3: that that's been the a shift a little bit in

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Speaker 3: It's funny because on the one hand, it's like there's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Clay's waving off, you know, as an eternity. Now

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Speaker 2: we're pretty a race. I mean, let me give you

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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania right now, gambling markets Republican and this adds up

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Speaker 1: we are basically in a tie game at the start

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Speaker 1: first states can start to vote next week. To me, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I wish we just had election Day. I understand many

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Speaker 1: It's a pulling election. And what's important is whatever the

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Speaker 1: I believe is going to decide this election. Fifty percent

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Speaker 1: of Democrat voters, Buck had already voted before John Fetterman

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Speaker 2: Of twenty twenty two. Crazy when you think.

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Speaker 1: That's how good there get out the vote mechanisms are.

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Speaker 1: It didn't even matter what was said on that stage

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Speaker 1: This is where Pennsylvanians have to be active. And if

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Speaker 1: vote early, I would just say go vote early, because again,

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Speaker 1: it allows them to focus on lower propensity voters. Do

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Speaker 1: we have Ryan Gardeski on he said something staggering, I

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Speaker 2: He said, if.

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Speaker 1: White non college graduates voted at the same level that,

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Speaker 1: for instance, I think it was white college graduates vote,

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Speaker 1: that Oregon would be a red state.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. How crazy is that? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I know this is the we keep talking about this.

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Speaker 3: You know, the media's obsession is always with you know,

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Speaker 3: you know, single, single, nonparent women thirty five to fifty

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Speaker 3: other pieces really that could move around white non college

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Speaker 1: I gotta apologize to everybody buck, including you. Not only

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Speaker 3: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. You know, we're kind

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Speaker 2: Justice in the American Way. Is that Captain America? Whose

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Speaker 6: Are Venezuelan gangs in this country or not? Yes or no?

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Speaker 7: The figures that you say to say that in Caracas

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Speaker 6: Yes, because what are your members?

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Speaker 8: That's my question, because the criminals are here now, don't starts?

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Speaker 8: Children are dead and you are wasting my time.

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Speaker 3: And now you got to get fired up in this election.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We didn't

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Speaker 1: As a doubly barred lawyer, I'm licensed in two different

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Speaker 5: We must treat like cases alike. There is not one

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Speaker 1: This is square buck. I think media matters. Actually, if

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Speaker 1: When I heard that, it made me sick to my

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Speaker 2: It would never happen.

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Speaker 1: It's like being a major league baseball player and deciding

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Speaker 1: that you want to go play in Double A instead.

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Speaker 3: It's exactly what happened. And could he really defend the

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Speaker 3: prosecution of Donald Trump on a misdemeanor cobbled together in

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Speaker 3: a way that is explicitly against prosecutorial guidelines, which is

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Speaker 3: you're not supposed to try to find ways to charge

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Speaker 3: the same crime over and over again. You know, the

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Speaker 3: perfect example of this is if you're going to charge

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Speaker 3: somebody for cocaine possession, you don't charge them for each

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Speaker 3: time they pass, you know, the cocaine between the two

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Speaker 3: of them, although theoretically you could try. That's exactly what

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Speaker 3: they did here at the business records. Yeah, and Andy

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Speaker 3: McCarthy explained this when he was on the show. I

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Speaker 3: think that's important. But also I don't know if you

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Speaker 3: saw this. Megan, Megan Kelly had on I was.

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Speaker 2: On our show earlier this week. We had a good time.

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Speaker 3: Meghan had on Naval Rava Khan recently, who is a

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Speaker 3: super brilliant guy. I actually meant to text you some

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Speaker 3: clips from this play just to we're always like prepping

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Speaker 3: for show over the weekends. He's like at a baseball

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Speaker 3: game with his kids, and I'm like, check out this clip.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, anyway, naval Rabat Khan is a brilliant guy

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Speaker 3: Silicon Valley. He was on our show and he just

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Speaker 3: said that lawfair is the destruction of the republic. I

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Speaker 3: mean he said that straight up. He said, if this

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Speaker 3: is the new game, if this is the way it goes,

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Speaker 3: nothing else really matters. Because whatever your election is, and

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Speaker 3: whatever your laws are, and whatever the Constitution says is irrelevant.

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Speaker 3: If people are going to operate in bad faith, who

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Speaker 3: have the power to prosecute, which is the power to destroy.

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Speaker 3: And so he even said basically, anybody in Silicon Valley

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Speaker 3: who cheers on this stuff against Trump is dead to him,

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Speaker 3: Like He's like, because you are advocating for something that

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Speaker 3: will destroy this country and that will ruin everything that

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Speaker 3: has been built. I completely agree with him. Let me

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Speaker 3: just say yes, I think that's that sentiment integral.

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Speaker 1: And this also ties in with again, I think it's

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Speaker 1: important for you all to understand how much you're being

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Speaker 1: lied to by your own Department of Justice. Listen to

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Speaker 1: cut Tubuck. He says, we won't allow this Department of

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Speaker 1: Justice to be used as a political weapon. I just

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're trying to put the chief political adversary

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Speaker 1: of the sitting president in prison for the rest of

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Speaker 5: Our norms are a promise that we will fiercely protect

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Speaker 5: the independence of this department from political interference in our

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Speaker 5: criminal investigations. Our norms are a promise that we will

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Speaker 5: not allow this department to be used as a political weapon.

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Speaker 5: And our norms are a promise that we will not

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Speaker 5: allow this nation to become a country where law enforcement

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Speaker 5: is treated as an apparatus of politics.

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Speaker 1: Listen to everyone clapping for him. It is really like

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Speaker 1: I was watching it in that clapping that you just heard.

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Speaker 1: They went crazy when he made that comment, And look,

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Speaker 1: I wish it were true. But Buck, of all of

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Speaker 1: the offices out there, I think if Trump wins, who

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Speaker 1: he picks his attorney general is actually the most important

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Speaker 1: decision he has to make.

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Speaker 3: It's a critical decision. He needs somebody who is both

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Speaker 3: aligned with the constitutional and MAGA MAGA mission and understands

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Speaker 3: how to operate the unwieldy device that is the Department

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Speaker 3: of Justice. But Clay, you know, if you if you

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Speaker 3: look just you know, at history, so many times this

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Speaker 3: plays out where the most aggressive I mean, you could

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Speaker 3: look at this is certainly the case with Hitler in

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Speaker 3: World War Two, It's the case with Stalin whenever he

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Speaker 3: was invading any anytime somebody is the aggressor, they they

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Speaker 3: come up with a narrative of themself as the victim,

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Speaker 3: because then that creates this basis for I'm not doing

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Speaker 3: the bad thing, I'm doing the good thing. And in

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Speaker 3: the same way that you know, Stalin sending in tank

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Speaker 3: somewhere because of the oppression of like Russian speaking people there,

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Speaker 3: you know, whatever it may be, right, the capitalist the

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Speaker 3: capitalist swine of America influencing some You have this with

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Speaker 3: the DOJ here and Merrick Garland. They're weaponizing the DOJ.

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Speaker 3: And what they're telling themselves and everybody else is they

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Speaker 3: would never weaponize the DOJ. And they're the ones who

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Speaker 3: are upholding the rule of law in the Constitution without

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Speaker 3: political favor, you know what I mean. It's yeah, they're

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Speaker 3: the aggressors and they act like they're the victims or

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Speaker 3: they're the they're the bad guys and they act like

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Speaker 3: they're the good guys.

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Speaker 1: This is important because a lot of what Trump gets

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Speaker 1: called on for fact checking and lying is hyperbolic perspective

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Speaker 1: that is actually right directionally. And let me explain what

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Speaker 1: I mean by that, because I think it really kind

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Speaker 1: of boils down to what you just said. What Merrick

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Speaker 1: Garland is saying is the exact opposite of what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: It is directionally a lie, but he's able to say it,

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Speaker 1: and the media is like, oh, yes, of course. What

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Speaker 1: Trump gets called on frequently is he'll say something like

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Speaker 1: like he's out in Los Angeles and I just saw

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Speaker 1: a quote where he came out and he said, our

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Speaker 1: Trump golf course in Los Angeles is the best golf

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Speaker 1: course anywhere in LA and anywhere in California. It's far

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Speaker 1: better than Pebble Beach, and the revenue proves it. And

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Speaker 1: then somebody will come out and they'll say, well, actually,

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Speaker 1: Pebble Beach makes you know, twenty million dollars more a

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Speaker 1: year than I'm just tossing out numbers than Pebble Beach,

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Speaker 1: than the Trump's course in LA. And therefore Trump is

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Speaker 1: lying about this. It's like, well, he's actually just saying

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Speaker 1: the most beautiful, it's the most spectacular, it's the most profitable.

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Speaker 1: They go after him where he's very often correct on

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Speaker 1: a minor detail associated with the general trajectory he's on,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes I would argue he undisciplined to allow those attacks.

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Speaker 1: But meanwhile, what the merit garlands of the world buck

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Speaker 1: are saying is far more significant and far more dishonest,

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Speaker 1: because what they're saying is the exact opposite of what

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Speaker 1: they're doing. In other words, Trump like, we built two

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Speaker 1: thousand amazing walls, and they're like, actually it was you know,

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Speaker 1: you rebuilt fifteen hundred and you only built four hundred

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Speaker 1: miles of walls or whatever. But his goal is the

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Speaker 1: which is a far more pernicious thing to be doing.

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Speaker 1: And that is the essence to me of what the

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Speaker 3: When Trump says, my crowd size are the biggest ever,

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, maybe he gets a little caught up in himself.

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Speaker 3: When Obama said, if you like your health care plan,

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Speaker 3: you could keep your health care plan, that was a

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Speaker 1: Yes, and that is very important for all of you

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Speaker 2: We get the Clay Enbuck.

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Speaker 3: Special email, the bat phone email that doesn't really work, but.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Uh, it's it's definitely a fun way to talk to us.

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Speaker 3: Throughout the show, we got some vip emails coming to here.

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Speaker 3: Carl Right's brilliant idea. Trump needs to go to Springfield,

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Speaker 3: Aurora and Alabama. This is a game changer. Thank you

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Speaker 3: for the push Alabama.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure exactly look there.

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Speaker 1: My point on Springfield is and it sounds like the Simpsons,

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Speaker 1: because that's why they named it Springfield, because basically every

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Speaker 1: state has a springfield, and you never were supposed to

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Speaker 1: know exactly where springfield in the Simpsons, one of the

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Speaker 1: most popular long running shows of all time, the cartoon.

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Speaker 2: How many springfields have you been to? I have no.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's one that I've been to quite a

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Speaker 1: lot just north of Nashville over the years.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know there was a springfield in the

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Speaker 2: in the Nashville area.

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Speaker 1: I legitimately think there is a springfield in all fifty states.

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Speaker 1: They may not be one in Alaska or Hawaii maybe,

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Speaker 1: but in the forty.

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Speaker 3: A lot of time in college at the train station Springfield, Massachusetts,

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Speaker 3: not not having not having a much of a renaissance

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Speaker 3: in Springfield, Massachusett. Springfield, mass is where the Basketball Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame is right, that sounds right. I've probably I

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Speaker 3: never went, which is not does not surprise you. And

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Speaker 3: I've been to Springfield, Illinois, famous place for some for

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Speaker 3: those history buffs, and uh nice, I like Springfield, Illinois

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Speaker 3: is really nice. Yeah, pretty red for a city for

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Speaker 3: a state capital for sure. So yeah, well that's our

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Speaker 3: point on why Trump should be going to Springfield, Ohio

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Speaker 3: is not only is there probably a town named Springfield

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Speaker 3: in your state, but also it is emblematic of what

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Speaker 3: immigration is doing to change so many communities out there.

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Speaker 3: And for the most part, I think most people would

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Speaker 3: say for the worst, whether you're white, Black, Asian, Hispanic,

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Speaker 3: if you are a legal citizen of the United States,

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Speaker 3: illegal immigrants flooding into your state, into your city is

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Speaker 3: not making your life better. It's making it more dangerous,

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Speaker 3: and it's diverting resources which could otherwise go to help

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Speaker 3: actual citizens. Derek writes, instead of just focusing on Springfield,

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Speaker 3: like to know who's flying them in.

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Speaker 2: I live in Lima. Is it Lima? I don't know,

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Speaker 2: it's Lima in Peru.

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Speaker 3: Lima almost two hours north, and we have an influx

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Speaker 3: all the major cities along I seventy five or seeing them.

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Speaker 3: I have a family that works as a police officer.

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Speaker 3: It's getting terrible police spread the word.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, I mean when you have people who are coming

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Speaker 3: into a place and they cannot they cannot compete economically,

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Speaker 3: they're you know, all this stuff about how all they're

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Speaker 3: going to do the jobs. We do not need millions

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Speaker 3: of non English speaker, unskilled laborers all of a sudden

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Speaker 3: on the job market, unless you want to make it

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Speaker 3: really hard for people who are trying to build themselves

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Speaker 3: off the economic ladder in this country to be able

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Speaker 3: to do so. Supply and demand play still counts, whether

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Speaker 3: it's people or products.

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Speaker 1: No doubt, and the incentives that you provide drive human

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Speaker 1: behavior in all facets of life, whether it's immigration or

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Speaker 1: whether it's hey, how much you're getting paid to work

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Speaker 1: versus not work. Remember when we made the disastrous decision

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Speaker 1: to just send everybody paychecks while they set home and

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Speaker 1: watch Netflix. They didn't go very well, led to nine

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Speaker 1: percent inflation. We come back, We're going to head out

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Speaker 1: to Nevada, a state with a lot of hard working

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Speaker 1: people who are trying to decide who to vote for.

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Speaker 1: Both the President and the Senate. Captain Sam Brown.

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Speaker 2: Will be with us.

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Speaker 1: We'll find out what he's seeing on the ground in

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Speaker 1: the Great State of Nevada.

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Speaker 2: Next