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Speaker 1: How do you block those guys one on one, especially

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Speaker 1: if they line up on the same side. I know,

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Speaker 1: you know Bryson Buckner, the way coach buck as you

426
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Speaker 1: burging out there like to call him Coach buck. I

427
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 1: know the way he coaches, and you know the way

428
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Speaker 1: he can drop a blitz or drop the front. And

429
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Speaker 1: you have those two guys on one side. You know

430
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: that frees up Marcus Golden on the other side. But

431
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: again we're talking about j J. JJ brings such a

432
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Speaker 1: dynamic of just burnt power, strand quickness, everything you want

433
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Speaker 1: out of alignment, and you can line them up anywhere,

434
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Speaker 1: and it's going to be the ultimate mismatch because I

435
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Speaker 1: don't think JJ's played next to a guy with Chandlers calvary. Well. Look,

436
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: notice has been served in the NFC West. In fact,

437
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Speaker 1: George Kittle, the Niners all pro tight end, was on

438
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Speaker 1: the Kyle Brand podcast Ten Questions with Kyle Brand and

439
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Speaker 1: the question was about what the Niners are gonna face

440
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Speaker 1: now and that Cardinals twosome And here's George Kittle, JJ

441
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: Watt new to the NFC West. How are you going

442
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: to block that guy this year? You might have to

443
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: block that guy a couple block. There's techniques. Welcome to

444
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Speaker 1: the NFC. Is this is this now real football? Coming

445
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Speaker 1: over from the FC? Like? Is that the way it works?

446
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 1: I mean, this is gonna get plastered. But like, the

447
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: NFC West is the toughest division in my opinion, the Cardinals,

448
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: they looked pretty good on offense and can't lie there

449
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: And then he got JJ. I mean Chandler Jones. I

450
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: still think is one of the underrated players in the NFL.

451
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: That dude's an absolute monster. You guys try to block

452
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: himaget extender arms. That's really annoying. So we're all looking

453
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Speaker 1: forward to that. But well, we've also seen in the

454
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Speaker 1: all season is the acquisition, honestly, Frosty, of a lot

455
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Speaker 1: of guys who had your sort of leadership and your

456
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Speaker 1: ability to command respect in the locker room. That's the

457
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Speaker 1: sort of player they have targeted this off season. I'm

458
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Speaker 1: curious in your opinion how big a deal is that

459
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Speaker 1: that that element on a team. Well, you know, when

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Speaker 1: you get veteran leadership that can come into a roster

461
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Speaker 1: and it's not really shaking things up. It's just a presence.

462
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Speaker 1: You know, it's the way people go about their work

463
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Speaker 1: and you know it means something. And that's no knock

464
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Speaker 1: at anyone that was there in the position before. But

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Speaker 1: certain guys command that. They got that aura around them.

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Speaker 1: And you guys have picked up a lot of players

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Speaker 1: that command that respect. They're proving guys around the league

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Speaker 1: that have played deep into playoffs, they've won Pro Bowls,

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls. You guys got guys that are at the

470
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Speaker 1: position the very best that do it and that comes

471
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Speaker 1: with a lot of like we said, we keep saying,

472
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Speaker 1: leadership that comes with a lot of responsibility and they're

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Speaker 1: dependable guys. And this Cardinals team has just been pieced

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Speaker 1: out beautifully. You know, I believe the Arizona Cardinals needed

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Speaker 1: to do two things this offseason. Number One, they needed

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Speaker 1: to get more physical, and I would say, in particular Frosty,

477
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Speaker 1: they needed to get more physical on the line of scrimmage. Now,

478
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Speaker 1: Steve Kim says they needed to just get more physical,

479
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter where they are, even Malcolm Butler it's a

480
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Speaker 1: very physical corner for the most part. He just wanted

481
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Speaker 1: to improve the physicality of a team from top to bottom.

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Speaker 1: But for me specifically, I wanted to see them get

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Speaker 1: more physical on the line of scrimmage and develop a culture.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you, what what does culture mean

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Speaker 1: to you? When do you think it's important that a

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Speaker 1: team has a cult? A culture? Absolutely, I think the

487
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Speaker 1: culture is just setting the president of how this is

488
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Speaker 1: gonna go and what this work is gonna look like,

489
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Speaker 1: and how we're gonna dominate and everyone being accountable. And

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Speaker 1: when you get a guy like Rodney Hudson to come

491
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Speaker 1: in and you know, I don't think Rodney's missed a

492
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: snap playing Maybe you did last year maybe maybe, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever missed a sap snapp in

494
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Speaker 1: the NFL. And then you know, probably regarded as the

495
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Speaker 1: best center out there. And you know, to have that

496
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Speaker 1: guy on that offensive line met with DJ and you

497
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: got Malcolm Butler, a guy that's you know, won a

498
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, one made the play in the Super Bowl.

499
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Speaker 1: Guy that's proven, like you said, that's tough as nails

500
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Speaker 1: and really will compete for the ball. And the defensive

501
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: side of the ball. You're bringing aj Green that you know,

502
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: might be the comeback player of the year if you

503
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Speaker 1: can get enough touches, you know, because there's only one football,

504
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: right you guys have a heck of the team here

505
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Speaker 1: and and I'm very pumped and sitting here watching this

506
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: the way the season went last year and how it

507
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: dived off at the end. Yeah, but if they have

508
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Speaker 1: that extra gear, you got that challenger, you got that

509
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: JJ that can make a play, You got markets back

510
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: that can make a huge play for you. And then

511
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: you have to go Larry. I know he's yeah where

512
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: he is, but you know he's always, you know, a

513
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: phone call away. I'm sure from right exactly. Don't know

514
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Speaker 1: what's going to happen with with Larry. But I have

515
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Speaker 1: to ask you, Frosty again, have you because you mentioned

516
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Speaker 1: accountability and accountability I think is so huge in a

517
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Speaker 1: part of culture that there is accountability, But that means

518
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: you've got to have dudes in that locker room that

519
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: are willing to hold themselves to a standard. They're not

520
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: going to hold anybody else too, but also are willing

521
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: to walk up on somebody and say, dude, what are

522
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: you doing. Have you ever walked up on somebody in

523
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Speaker 1: your career as a guy that was trying to keep

524
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Speaker 1: somebody else accountable? Yeah, I'm sure I have. And you know,

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00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: a leader is not always liked, right you You got

526
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Speaker 1: to do the tough jobs. You know, you're you're the

527
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: one that asked to make sure everything never gets comfortable

528
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: around there, and people are always on that edge, always

529
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 1: have that one more gear to you know, finish your

530
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: sprints and finish the drill and do this net. And

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Speaker 1: it starts setting the president of how the work will

532
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Speaker 1: be done, and that, like we keep saying, it's the

533
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Speaker 1: accountability of that, you know, to work knowing all right,

534
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put myself on the way, all right, I'm

535
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Speaker 1: gonna take some better notes that I did last year,

536
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: because last year's notes weren't good enough obviously. You know,

537
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: it's the energy that's going to be coming into that

538
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: that team of people that want to win, you know,

539
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: and it always feels good to be wanted. And I

540
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: know all these guys you guys got in free agency,

541
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Speaker 1: they know they feel that they're wanted well. And there's

542
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: a couple of guys and you might have caught a

543
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: couple of names of Frosty Drop that he has firsthand

544
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Speaker 1: knowledge of. We're getting get into that next. He's a

545
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Speaker 1: former teammate of a couple of big names the Cardinals

546
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: acquired in the all season. We'll get into that. I

547
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Speaker 1: want to ask Wolf Frosty what he misses the most

548
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: and what he misses the least about life in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And then you mentioned coach Buck. There's a legendary story.

550
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Speaker 1: If we have time, I got to get you to

551
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: tell it to us again about a coach in his

552
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: own game film. We'll get into all that next. It

553
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Speaker 1: is The Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and

554
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Speaker 1: Gilbert with our special guest, former Cardinals defensive lineman Frosty Rucker.

555
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: Back right after this on the Big Red Rage, Dalton

556
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Speaker 1: takes the snap, takes a handoff, rolls right. Lots of

557
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Speaker 1: time on I keep y. J. Green is hoping he's

558
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Speaker 1: kind of running down them thirty nobody's going to catch J. J.

559
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Speaker 1: Green has the pangals eighty two yards, the longest catch

560
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Speaker 1: of Adriel Jeremiah Green in spectacular NFL career. There's go

561
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Speaker 1: a career catch for a J. Green, who has a

562
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Speaker 1: distinction of sharing a locker room with our guest tonight

563
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Speaker 1: in The Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and

564
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Speaker 1: Gilbert Frosty Rucker, former Bengal five years with the Cardinals

565
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: joining us here and let's just get right back into it. Frosty,

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Speaker 1: you tell us about AJ Green. Obviously at his peak

567
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Speaker 1: he was one of the best in the NFL. How

568
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: much do you think he has left? Is a question

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Speaker 1: all the Cardinals fans are asking themselves. Well, I think

570
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: AJ Green has a lot left. I think his time

571
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: was just up in Cincinnati, playing on turf, practicing on turf,

572
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: and you know, subzero temperatures and December and things like that.

573
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: I think it was his time to break loose of that.

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00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: He's spent his whole career there. Like you said, he's

575
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Speaker 1: been a Pro Bowl player, top of the game, a

576
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Speaker 1: guy that could really go up and get the ball,

577
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: great teammate, never hear anything bad about him. It's his time,

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Speaker 1: you know. And it looks like on the offensive side

579
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: of the ball, the receiver group is just getting stronger.

580
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: And this, like I said, if Aj gets enough footballs

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Speaker 1: this year, he may just be comeback Player of the Year.

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Speaker 1: And I'm thinking as well, Frosty, that here is a

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Speaker 1: guy that is on a one year contract, it's kind

584
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,239
Speaker 1: of a proved contract, and he's leaving and playing with

585
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Speaker 1: another franchise for the first time in his career. Talking

586
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: about a decade here. That to me, I think that

587
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: is going to be good for Aj Green. You would

588
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: you agree with that? Yeah, it's gonna be a great thing,

589
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: you know, and that a lot of guys don't make

590
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: it that long to get a tenure with the team

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00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: like this. And you know, he was on some sort

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Speaker 1: of type of path like Larry was, you know, and

593
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: you know, to leave after a decade of ball one City.

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Speaker 1: You know, he only endured one coaching change at the

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Speaker 1: head coach position. This is this is an exciting time

596
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: for AJ. I'm sure a one year it's a proved deal,

597
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: but you know sometimes that's all you need. You just

598
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: need a fresh start and coming here again. The only

599
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: issue is going to be how many how many times

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Speaker 1: he can get the ball, because I'm sure you know,

601
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: playing on grass, practicing on grass is only going to

602
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: do it good with the you know, the type of

603
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: injuries he had had. Well after the Cardinals, Frosty Rucker

604
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: went to the Raiders, And that means you were teammates

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Speaker 1: with Rodney Hutson the Cardinals news center. Now, how often

606
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: did you guys ever match up in practice? Because I

607
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: can talk about how he's given up ten sacks in

608
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Speaker 1: ten years, which is a mind blowing stat. But you

609
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Speaker 1: tell us what sort of player is you're in the trenches. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a great player, very smart, um durable. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't give up a lot of plays,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna be a great addition for

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Speaker 1: K two. He got the very best in the league.

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Speaker 1: Rodney practices every day. I don't want to jink him

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Speaker 1: with that because you know, I don't want to. I

616
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Speaker 1: don't want to say that, sorry, Rod, But when I

617
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Speaker 1: was there in my tenure with the Raiders. He practiced

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Speaker 1: every day. I did get to go against him because

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Speaker 1: myself I was also I was a starter, but I

620
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: was working on scout team. You know how I get

621
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: down when I play football, it's whatever it takes. So

622
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: I was helping them, lending the hand on scout team.

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Speaker 1: So you know, obviously from playing verse him in games,

624
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: live games to you know, watching him work as craft

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00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: and you know, go and get them in pass restrials

626
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: and whatnot. He's the real deal. And again he's the

627
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: perfect fit to go on this offense that can you know,

628
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: essentially cover Ktoon's. It's passing lanes, it's right in front

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Speaker 1: of them. You know what's amazing about it as well, Frosty.

630
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Speaker 1: But every team that I was on, the relationship between

631
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Speaker 1: the quarterback and the center is really something special, right

632
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Speaker 1: It just it is you see the center and the

633
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: quarterback talking an awful lot. I think that Rodney Hudson

634
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: is going to have a mentorship role, if you will,

635
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Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray as well, and help him in his career,

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Speaker 1: help him develop as a leader. I'm really jacked up

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Speaker 1: about it because I hear great things about Rodney Hudson

638
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: in terms of not only knowing the game but also

639
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Speaker 1: being willing to help others. Yeah, I mean he's seen

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00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: it all. He's proven to be the best center in

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Speaker 1: the game, and he can only drop knowledge. You know,

642
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: he's not a very talkative guy. He's not, you know,

643
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: an overly allowed person, but you know he commands a

644
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Speaker 1: respect and that's what it is. He's, you know, a

645
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Speaker 1: solf spoken giant on the football field. And I don't

646
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Speaker 1: personally know K two, but you know who doesn't benefit

647
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: from extra leadership around you? Who doesn't benefit from extra

648
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, Pro Bowl experience around you? And I mean

649
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: it should be a match made in heaven. So you

650
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: host a podcast, the LA Football Network podcast via the

651
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Speaker 1: Belief podcast network, and so you focus on the LA

652
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: football scene and obviously, right now, least according to Vegas,

653
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: the Rams of the team to be in the nfcust

654
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Speaker 1: after picking up Matthew Stafford. So you tell us what

655
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Speaker 1: sort of impact do you think Stafford makes on that

656
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Speaker 1: RAMS team. I think it's a huge impact, just the

657
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: type of player he is, the way he can make

658
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: any throw and stand there in the pocket and you know,

659
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: get out of there when he needs too. He's experienced,

660
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: and I think this is another opportunity for someone to

661
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: get out of a situation where he never bad mouth

662
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: for plays. He just showed up every single day and

663
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: he just didn't win the games. And we can all

664
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Speaker 1: sit here and contest that it really wasn't Matt Stafford's

665
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 1: reason why they weren't winning games. It was everything around him.

666
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Speaker 1: So I think it's a fresh start for him. Again,

667
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: another guy don't personally know just played versam, but he

668
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: does make Sean mcvey's offense go. At this point, you know,

669
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Speaker 1: I think they were losing a little well, obviously a

670
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: lot of faith in the gentleman they did have there

671
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: even though they took him with the first overall selection.

672
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: It was just time to go and they made a decision.

673
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: And now I know the city of la is very

674
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: excited about it, and hopefully, if you know, they get

675
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: some money in the cap issue, they can still make

676
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: some pieces to that place. But that's the tough one

677
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: for them now, yea, yeah, no no doubt about it.

678
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: Right there. They also added DeShawn Jackson. What do you think,

679
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: what do you expect of DeShawn? Does he still have

680
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: the wiry speed. Does he still have the ability to

681
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: go out and make some big plays? Well, hopefully we're

682
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: gonna see. Yeah. Right, that's one thing I'll say. You know,

683
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,959
Speaker 1: that's a great thing about football, right, Frosty, You're gonna

684
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: go out and proof you're absolutely right. We're gonna see

685
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: you know. And I'm a big Deshaun Jackson fan. Obviously

686
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: you watched the game. He's one of those dynamic players

687
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: that just takes the roof off the defense. He you know,

688
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: he's always a home run away. And him being able

689
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: to come home to be back in La around his

690
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: family and friends, you know, that brings a huge element

691
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: to it. And then having an opportunity with you know,

692
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: to get in the relationship with Matt Stafford. They've both

693
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: got fresh starts. So who knows. So, Frosty Rutger, what

694
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Speaker 1: do you miss the most and missed the least about

695
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: life in the NFL? The game of days? I missed

696
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: that a lot. I missed competing at a high level.

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00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: I don't have just one answer. Sorry, I guess you know,

698
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: because it's a real question for you know, a next

699
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: pro athlete, being around the guys every day, you know,

700
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: taking on that that leadership role and being dependable guy

701
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: that they can come to the locker room and talk

702
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: to about football stuff, life stuff anything, just accepting that role.

703
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: I missed that, that big brother type of being a

704
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: big brother type of figure. And I don't miss practice

705
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: or the meetings. I'm gonna guess, and that's my lead

706
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Speaker 1: in Coach buck You mentioned him, Brentson Buckner, the Cardinals

707
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: defensive line coach and a good friend of yours. I

708
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: still remember this. It was a dog days I don't

709
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: know what season it was. The guys needed to pick

710
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: me up, and he put on some film in the

711
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: meeting room for the D line And let's see if

712
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: you remember the story because it was film, not if

713
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: any of you, but if someone else in that room.

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Speaker 1: Do you know where I'm going with this? Oh yeah,

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00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: Coach buck because let me let me start by saying,

716
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 1: he as far as my favorite coach and I've had

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00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: that has coached me in my position. I've learned so

718
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: much from him about the game of football, not just

719
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: D line stuff, but the back end of it. He's phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: You know, he will be one of these next great

721
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Speaker 1: de coordinators. And I'm sure this is going to happen

722
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: soon enough. But yeah, I do remember those dog days

723
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: and we weren't doing too good. And you know, Coach

724
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: Buck is how I always had a unique way of

725
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: getting his point across. So to get his point across,

726
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: he had to show his videotape with himself doing what

727
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: he was telling us to do. And I think I

728
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: think he was really getting on Rodney for to be honest,

729
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: that he was probably getting on Ronnie to do some

730
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: of the things that Ronnie just couldn't figure out. And

731
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Speaker 1: you know, it's always good to be able to go

732
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: back to your own tape and say, hey, I did it.

733
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: That's right. Everyone's like what I remember guys saying or Chavio, well,

734
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: who is this on the film? And it ended up

735
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: it was Coach Buck himself and he was showing his

736
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Speaker 1: own highlight reel. So you know what, he didn't ask

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00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: me what I missed the most? I noticed that right there.

738
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 1: So let me just tell you, acting like an unmitigated

739
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: savage in between the white lines, and nobody cared. Nobody cared.

740
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: That was the great thing about it. And what I

741
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: missed the least, I would have to say, Cardio, well,

742
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: we definitely miss Frosty Rutger, So thank you for the

743
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: time to dight. Frosty was great to connect and thanks

744
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: for the knowledge. Paul Lookley, It's always a good time

745
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: to talk to you guys. I miss you guys. Burkang,

746
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: I miss you guys. I think you guys that put

747
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: a great team together and share these these cardinals on.

748
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: I think it would be great things. And Frosty, yep,

749
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Speaker 1: Frosty Rocker will come back wrap up this edition of

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Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage right after this. Oh hey there,

751
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: right there, Oh hey, how are you doing it? Pretty

752
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: pretty far south? I don't know if it's kind of

753
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: snow today behind. Oh my gosh, we're in the States.

754
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: Top Oh, I brought my to fog and just in case,

755
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: my goodness, tucking the weather here. It's beautiful. I an't

756
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: see Jimmy Jess chin line. Holywn, guy's got chin line's

757
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: gonna chat. Oh my goods, that is one of the nine.

758
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: What a man he is. It's George Kittle and Joe

759
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: Staley back in the day for the forty nine ers

760
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: when he was miked up by NFL films. George Kittle

761
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: never disappoints when he's miked up and at that point

762
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: you now it works, Wolf, Right, That's how it works

763
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: in the world of the locker rooms, the U right,

764
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: the handsome Jimmy che hearing it from a couple of

765
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: his rooms, all very long and for being handsome ball. Yes,

766
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: So the Niners guess what. Apparently they don't like the

767
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: cut of Jimmy G's jib anymore, because they have moved

768
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: up to number three in return for the number twelve

769
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Speaker 1: pick this year a first, and the third next year

770
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: a first in twenty twenty three. The Cardinals the only

771
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 1: team with a first round pick in this year's draft.

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00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: By the way, Well, the Niners did move up, but

773
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: it's why they moved up. I mean, Wolf, if Zach

774
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: Wilson is going number two, did the Niners just give

775
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: up all of that, all those assets to get Trey

776
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: Lance or you know, Mac Jones or Justin Fields. Yeah,

777
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: you know what. Probably I don't know what to say

778
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: about this, I really don't, but it's definitely being talked

779
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: about with not only the San Francisco forty nine ers,

780
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: but league wide. I would say, in regard to what

781
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: quarterback would you possibly be moving up there? And they

782
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: must feel really really good about somebody not named Trevor Lawrence.

783
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, you're not going to move up

784
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: to number three and give up what they gave up

785
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: and take a defensive tackle. They're gonna take a quarterback.

786
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be Trevor Lawrence. We all know that's

787
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 1: gonna go number one overall. So they must really feel

788
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: good about a couple of quarterbacks knowing somebody's going to

789
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: be there at number three. The question I have is

790
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: what kind of impact does this have on Jimmy G.

791
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: Because Paul I don't see him doing well when you're

792
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: drafting his replacement and bringing him in and then saying, oh, yeah,

793
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: we're gon We're gonna stick with you, Jimmy G. That's

794
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. I don't see that going well

795
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: for Jimmy G. I still think and believe the forty

796
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: nine ers going to try to get rid of them

797
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: and dump them at some point. Totally agree. I just

798
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: especially when you get rid of them, you get those

799
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: cap savings and the dead cap hit is less than

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00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: four million dollars. Yes, it makes financial sense to part

801
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: ways with Jimmy G. I just do they think that

802
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: the Jets are gonna stick with Sam Darnold and not

803
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: trade out of that spot, so they might have a

804
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: shot at Zach Wilson because you better be content with

805
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: the other quarterbacks not named Trevor Lawrence or Zach Wilson

806
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: because you're picking number three not number two. Right, I'm

807
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: just trying to understand that. But either way, it looks

808
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: like there's gonna be another interesting quarterback right, dynamic QB

809
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: in the nscus under center for the Niners. But I

810
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: will say this, I hope the Niners do proceed with

811
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: this plan seriously, because I don't think it's gonna go

812
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: over well with Jimmy g and because of that, I

813
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: think his play will suffer and they'll go with a

814
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback at some point in time, which you would

815
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: think is going to deplete their win column if you

816
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yep. Well, special thanks to Frosty Rucker, who,

817
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: among other things, said about his former teammate AJ Green quote,

818
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: if he gets enough targets, he might be the NFL

819
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Speaker 1: comeback player of the year. So that resonated no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Special thanks Jim Almah, Cody Fincher for Ron will play

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