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<v Speaker 1>Hell I Suck At Dating with Dean Angler and I

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio podcast. Hello everyone, thank you for tuning back

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<v Speaker 1>into episode two of Help I Suck at Dating. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Dean Angler and I'm excited to have you back. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a very special guest for this, uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>first segment, and you probably know him as America's heart throb, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the most dreamy Abs of all time ever to go

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<v Speaker 1>through the Bachelor franchise. You know him, you love him.

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Krause, what's up, buddy? Thank you for for taking

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<v Speaker 1>the time to jump on the phone with me here.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, thanks for the invite. I appreciate it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, of course. I mean I think it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>obvious why I wanted you on the phone. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I we we grew a great friendship throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the course of the Bachelorette, right, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty clear. I think that America would agree with with

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<v Speaker 1>me by saying that you are significantly better at dating

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<v Speaker 1>than I am. And you know, it's funny. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot of things, you and I and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like this is one thing that we maybe haven't

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<v Speaker 1>discussed very much on you know what, I can maybe

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<v Speaker 1>do to be better what maybe you saw during the

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<v Speaker 1>bachelrette that you maybe I didn't like so much or

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<v Speaker 1>ever thought was a bad idea anything like that. So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean going back to it right you? And actually

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about this a little bit too,

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like you got a bad edit in

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<v Speaker 1>a sense where you did a lot of things behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes, um that were very like romantic, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>were like doing all these gestures. I remember you painted

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<v Speaker 1>a bottle. You were like setting up all of this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that um didn't really seem to get displayed, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And meanwhile I was just kind of sitting there with

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<v Speaker 1>my uh, sitting on my hands, like not really sure

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<v Speaker 1>what to do. So uh, I mean that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>where do you what kind of advice? I mean, just

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<v Speaker 1>to dive right into it. Would you think you would

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<v Speaker 1>have for me advice for you? Well, I promise I

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<v Speaker 1>never watched bas from Paradise in Dating, if you will,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see it. So I just gotta gut to

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<v Speaker 1>hear about it all second hand. Um, from what I

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<v Speaker 1>saw with you on the show, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you just got on your own head a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times, and as time went on, and maybe you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got further and further away from your comfort zone,

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<v Speaker 1>it just pame more difficult. But I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>do anything wrong. You're You're a fun loving guy, your kind,

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<v Speaker 1>You're very well stillken intelligent. I just feel like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it was too much, too soon, and you weren't ready

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<v Speaker 1>for it Towards the other Yeah, I agree, Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that especially near the end, we I think all

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<v Speaker 1>of us were kind of getting our heads a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I yeah, without a doubt. Um, I think

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<v Speaker 1>with everything that I had going on, with the hometowns

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<v Speaker 1>and all that, and you know, obviously I saw a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of everyone else's connection. It was it was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to process. But um, what about like, like, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>could you jump into some of your dating experiences doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to be on the show. It could be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>before the show, Um, whatever it might be that you

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<v Speaker 1>think you do as a data that separates you from

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else. My biggest thing is dating is listening. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you're dating somebody, it can no longer

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<v Speaker 1>be about yourself. It asked me about that person and

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<v Speaker 1>how you to interact together, So you have to put

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<v Speaker 1>that person first. Thing about yourself second, and when giving

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<v Speaker 1>them the love that they desire and have to be

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that they appreciate it, not in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that you feel like they should appreciate it. So

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<v Speaker 1>I personally think the biggest misconception and dating is that

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<v Speaker 1>you give a level of love and they're expected to

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<v Speaker 1>receive it with happiness. Well, if I like to give

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<v Speaker 1>love through for example, like gestures or word in fasformation,

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<v Speaker 1>or I like to receive it in that way, that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that they're going to appreciate that when I

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<v Speaker 1>do it. So I can't be upset with them. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't get angry when they don't necessarily reciprocate those same

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<v Speaker 1>feelings because they need it, they've given to them in

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<v Speaker 1>a different way. So I think it's really good to

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<v Speaker 1>have a really open mind, Uh, listen and learn a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about your partner, and then take those things you

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<v Speaker 1>learn to give the love back in the way that

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<v Speaker 1>they really seek. Fit gotcha, so you think it. Listening

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<v Speaker 1>is obviously very important. I think catering to the desires

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<v Speaker 1>of whomever it is that you're dating obviously is important

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<v Speaker 1>because you want to kind of specialize they're the way

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<v Speaker 1>that you treat them. In the way that they need

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<v Speaker 1>to be treated. I suppose right, UM, And I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a lot of that too, and it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of transformed in front of our eyes through the seven,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, eight weeks that we spent together on the

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<v Speaker 1>show is um. You know, as you get to know

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<v Speaker 1>someone more and more, you begin to understand what they

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate and how to continuously make them happy. UM. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny too, because I feel like some of the

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<v Speaker 1>guys just maybe didn't get that to click. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of had their their minds made up on

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<v Speaker 1>how they were gonna act or what they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to do, and they just kind of stuck to their

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<v Speaker 1>guns and didn't really adapt too much. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that listening is very important. I think that I could

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<v Speaker 1>definitely improve in the listening department. Um. I think why

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<v Speaker 1>we have such a great friendship is because, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>share a lot of things, UM, beliefs, ideals, characteristics. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you will, but then you do listen well. And

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<v Speaker 1>when we have a conversation, we're having a conversation between

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<v Speaker 1>two friends. It's not like you're not trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>anything out of us, and you're not expecting anything you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're there to have a good conversation and be a

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<v Speaker 1>buddy versus there's people. Then I still run into today

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<v Speaker 1>where like you think you're making a friendship and then

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<v Speaker 1>you realize, oh, there are in this culterior motives and

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<v Speaker 1>that's not you. So if you take the same approach

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<v Speaker 1>to your dating, I don't see them being a problem

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<v Speaker 1>that granted at all. Watch you and you're dating necessarily.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen you in the probilities that you have

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<v Speaker 1>dated in person, but from what I see, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>find at it, well, we definitely had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time to talk and listen to one another throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>time we spent together. Um, what do you think makes

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<v Speaker 1>our friendship or any friendship? Because I mean I have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of friends, You have a lot of friends,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet here we are, um, you know, single essentially right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's what maybe makes a friendship with whomever it

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<v Speaker 1>is easier than than forming a relationship with someone. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it is kind of the the easiness of it all,

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<v Speaker 1>the levity of of just kind of you know, sitting back,

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<v Speaker 1>talking and listening and not necessarily having to to put

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<v Speaker 1>so much pressure on it. Well, I mean there's a

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<v Speaker 1>big part of it there in a friendship, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>promise of future, Like you're able to just slide right

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<v Speaker 1>into a friendship knowing that it is what it is

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<v Speaker 1>wherever it really ends up, and maybe it does take

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<v Speaker 1>fressure off in versus that you know that it's something

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<v Speaker 1>that you're it's just been long term and then maybe

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<v Speaker 1>just in a new long term that changes the dynamic

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<v Speaker 1>and how you approach relationship and the conversation that you

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<v Speaker 1>have and what's kind of like an umbrella over of

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<v Speaker 1>you thinking, you know, do I have to get more?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I have to give less? Is this what I

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<v Speaker 1>want for my long term? And maybe that also comes

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<v Speaker 1>with age when you start to think about that. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>at my younger ages, I wasn't really thinking about it

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship. I was just thinking, is this girl

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<v Speaker 1>cool to hang out with? Do I enjoy your company?

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<v Speaker 1>That was it versus now it's like, do I see

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<v Speaker 1>this one being a mother of my children? Do I

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<v Speaker 1>this woman working up next to me every single day

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<v Speaker 1>and being the love of my life and some majority

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<v Speaker 1>of the days at least being happy. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say it's gonna be every day, but you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>a friendship, you don't necessarily look at that, so it's different.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot easier. Being a buddy is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>easier than being a girlfriend eventually fiancee, eventually wife less expectation,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess in a friendship, So it kind of makes

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<v Speaker 1>everything a little bit easier. I think that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>And so earlier you you referenced the love language is right,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what your love language is? I know

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<v Speaker 1>how I like to receive love, I guess more than player.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to give love, okay. I really like to

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<v Speaker 1>be love through words of affirmation okay, and to like

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<v Speaker 1>talking things out is really important to me. Being encouraged

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<v Speaker 1>and being confirmed in my UM, I guess love or

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<v Speaker 1>their love for me is really important to me. So

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<v Speaker 1>just being what your being reassured, I think mine it

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<v Speaker 1>probably is words of affirmation as well, with quality time

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<v Speaker 1>mixed in there. Um. I think the reassurance and just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like knowing that someone can be there for

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<v Speaker 1>you at any moment, like whenever you might need them

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason. Um, if you just need someone to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to, and kind of knowing that at that moment

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<v Speaker 1>if you need to talk to, someone will be there

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess it's kind of a mixture between words

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<v Speaker 1>of affirmation and quality time. I'm not really sure in

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<v Speaker 1>hand and hand. I guess it's like if you're if

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<v Speaker 1>you're there for them in that moment, you're probably saying

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of things because of an affirmation. Well at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time giving that quality time. So I can

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<v Speaker 1>totally see them being hand and hand. Would you consider

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<v Speaker 1>yourself an affectionate person? Oh, totally, I think so. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but I think maybe it comes in different way.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's funny now, Like I mean, you know about

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<v Speaker 1>the beast of social media, and I talked about it

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, but it's something that is now involved in

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<v Speaker 1>our lives and when we have to kind of read

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<v Speaker 1>the comments because you won't be able to see what

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<v Speaker 1>people are saying positive and if there's something that you

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<v Speaker 1>can do differently or see there's something that maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>said that was offensive or inappropriate or something maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>just maybe change someone maybe for the better reason. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's a crazy part about it too. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think we touched on this later on in the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>But how do you think social media has changed that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because especially for you and I, you know, now it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more public are our dating lives and

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<v Speaker 1>the comments, like you said, and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So how has that affected you? I mean, obviously don't

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<v Speaker 1>get too specific or anythink that, but I mean it's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to ignore all this stuff, right, And it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's much different now than it was, you know, six

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<v Speaker 1>months ago before we went on the show. Right. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's totally different. Maybe before you could date someone with

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<v Speaker 1>out for your judgment. If you like them, you'd introduce

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<v Speaker 1>to your family, and your family would be happy as

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<v Speaker 1>long as you were. At least I thought it works

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<v Speaker 1>in my family. And so now it's like, if I

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<v Speaker 1>did start dating someone, are people going to think that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm doing it for one reason and another?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they gonna like them? Are they gonna suddenly put

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<v Speaker 1>all the case that they put on us, uh something

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<v Speaker 1>on the show onto them? Uh? Are they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>good date us like relationship itself? Is that person date

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<v Speaker 1>you or I for the wrong reasons? Uh? It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to say. Yeah, it's totally puts a whole new perspective

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<v Speaker 1>on dating at this point. Yeah, it changes, It changes

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. And it's funny too. I mean in regard

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<v Speaker 1>to to all of that. It's what I always telling

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<v Speaker 1>myself is the people with the least amount of information

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<v Speaker 1>are the ones with the most amount to say. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you look at it and you're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't like know each other, you know, anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But it's still it's still hard to not

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<v Speaker 1>let it get to you. And um, I know you

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<v Speaker 1>you were under obviously a lot of like scrutiny for

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<v Speaker 1>for a while during some of those episodes, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>I've had my fair share as well, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's it's difficult not to let it gets

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<v Speaker 1>your head. And you have done a really good job

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<v Speaker 1>of not necessarily buying into any of the hatred, which

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<v Speaker 1>I can appreciate in respect from you, Um, Peter, you're

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<v Speaker 1>the man. Thank you again for taking the time. Uh again,

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've always kind of looked up to you, both

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<v Speaker 1>in dating and as a friend, and I will continue

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. And um, you know, all of your

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<v Speaker 1>advice is definitely very much appreciated, and I look forward

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<v Speaker 1>to talking soon. I appreciate man, You're killing it and

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<v Speaker 1>keep doing what you do, all right, take care buddy, Alright, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I suck at dating. But what has made dating easier

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the years, and one way it continues to improve

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<v Speaker 1>is through the use of dating apps, and one of

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<v Speaker 1>those apps is Bumble, who happens to be one of

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<v Speaker 1>our sponsors. Um I I think I told a story

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<v Speaker 1>very briefly in the very first episode about um how

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<v Speaker 1>on a second day I was on my hands and

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<v Speaker 1>knees in this girl's bathroom because I ate some um

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<v Speaker 1>some bad I think it was Chinese food. And ironically enough,

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<v Speaker 1>she was a lovely young lady that I met on

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<v Speaker 1>Bumble and uh, great girl. Um. Again, it didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>go very well after that, just because of that moment. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I do know that that girl had since found a

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend and is still with boyfriend, living with the boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>that she met on Bumble. UM. I believe it was

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<v Speaker 1>a boyfriend she met immediately after, which is great because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it gives us all, you know, a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of hope and a sense of of um pride in

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that it works for people, and it's worked for me,

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's worked for obviously her and some of my friends. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's not just Bumble for dating. There's there's actually

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<v Speaker 1>three different Bumble apps. One of them is for dating,

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<v Speaker 1>one of them is bumble bf which is for friend finding,

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<v Speaker 1>and bumble biz which is for professional networking. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just learning about this now. I think that's great. I

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<v Speaker 1>think especially if you, you know, if you move somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>new and you don't really know that many people, bumble

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<v Speaker 1>bff is a great way to be introduced to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>locals that are on your same age and have the

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<v Speaker 1>same interests as you. Um, one of my best friends

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<v Speaker 1>actually just moved to India, country that you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>never really been to before, and um, I know he's

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<v Speaker 1>actually using it out there because he's you know, hoping

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<v Speaker 1>to to meet more people. And it's just a great

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity and a great avenue to be able to do

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. So go to bumble dot com slash

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<v Speaker 1>dean to download the bumble app and again you get

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<v Speaker 1>three of them, Bumble for dating, bumble bff, and bumble

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<v Speaker 1>Biz for fessional networking, which is just great. So bumble

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<v Speaker 1>dot com slash tean, download the app and start bumbling. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining us next is Patti Stanger from millionaire matchmaker Patty.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you there? Yeah? Hi? Jean How are you? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing well? How are you good? Look at you? Mr

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<v Speaker 1>big Shot? Who do thunk it? What a what a concept?

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<v Speaker 1>Your name from in Venice? Right? Don't you live in Venice?

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<v Speaker 1>I live in Venice? Yes, that's right, I remember. I remember.

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<v Speaker 1>We we live like five blocks apart. There you go, so, um,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Well, so Patty, do you mind filling in

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners a little bit more about you and who

0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.840
<v Speaker 1>you are? Yeah? So I am the million Dollar Matchmakers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a different show. It's on WE TV. You can

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<v Speaker 1>watch it Friday nights at nine o'clock. And this week's

0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:47.280
<v Speaker 1>are finally with Courtney Stotton, who is crazy Mazie, Matsy

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<v Speaker 1>bestie and all the things you can imagine if you

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<v Speaker 1>know Courtney. But the show is really about It's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like Intervention meets the old Millionaire Matchmaker, um,

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<v Speaker 1>where I basically put you in the hot seat. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you watched the episode with Daniel, you know you

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<v Speaker 1>can get a little testy because you know how Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>is right, he doesn't like to be told or criticized

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<v Speaker 1>or anything. And then I kind of figure out why

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<v Speaker 1>are you not finding love? And I kind of break

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<v Speaker 1>you have your bad habits and get you on the

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<v Speaker 1>road to love. And then at the end of the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>we actually give you a date and then you get

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<v Speaker 1>to decide whether you want to keep the date or not.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a little game show effects the end. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand why are you single? Well, that's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping you can tell me. I said, if I were

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<v Speaker 1>only thirty years younger, Um, you think you have too

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<v Speaker 1>much going on? It could be. It could be the case.

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<v Speaker 1>I I definitely and find myself enjoying being busy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>are you dating a D D? Are you one of

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<v Speaker 1>those D A D D guys? So it's like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, everyone's throwing themselves at me, and I'm dating

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<v Speaker 1>all these people, but I'm not actually thinking about what

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<v Speaker 1>I really want and a woman and then waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>the right woman to show up. Are you that guy?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I think that I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to say I really want to have someone

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<v Speaker 1>in my life, so that way, I don't necessarily even

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<v Speaker 1>have to worry about that. I mean, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the it just gets exhausting after a while, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people are trying to talk to you and you have

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<v Speaker 1>a real job. You're not like one of these local

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<v Speaker 1>people that are just like they get on The Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 1>They have no real job, their personal trainer and they're

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<v Speaker 1>just floating around. You have a don't you have a

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<v Speaker 1>real job, like in a real company. So I've been

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<v Speaker 1>a recruiter for three years, um, since going real job. Okay, So,

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<v Speaker 1>so you have a structured life. You have your nine

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<v Speaker 1>to five, right, and then you've got like you can

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<v Speaker 1>play at nine and play in the weekends. And most

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<v Speaker 1>guys like that are tired at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like exhausted from working and either they're not being

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<v Speaker 1>proactive in their search or they're just like winging it.

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<v Speaker 1>And what you need to do is get strategics. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's your problem. You're not strategic. Strategic how what

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<v Speaker 1>do you mean, Well, you've got to decide what you want. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>you've had the experience of the Bachelor. Who knows if

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to come back to the ap next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully they'll last you back. But you know your jab,

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<v Speaker 1>you're only getting people that they're giving you, So you're

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<v Speaker 1>not really expanding your net and going out and meeting

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<v Speaker 1>real people because you're probably hanging out with Bachelor Nation,

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<v Speaker 1>which is fine. A lot of those people got married

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes. It's actually like like its own dating service,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's actually fantastic. I mean it makes sense in

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<v Speaker 1>a way. It's a bunch of charismatic, you know, fun loving,

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<v Speaker 1>upgoing people that kind of get together. What are they

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<v Speaker 1>really strategic? Where are they serious about love? And are

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<v Speaker 1>they local? Can you have a lot of them are

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<v Speaker 1>long distance. You can't really have a long just like Olivia.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't have a long distance relationship. You want someone

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly on the west side, right, you don't want to slept,

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<v Speaker 1>you know wherever all not a valley girl. Right on

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<v Speaker 1>date one a girl? Would you dat a valley girl?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the short to drive, the better, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like an okay, So for those who don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who are listening nationwide, the valley is like an hour

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<v Speaker 1>away from where team lives. So there's this whole rule,

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<v Speaker 1>like you need your visa to go there. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>another country, another state. So everybody stays on one side

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<v Speaker 1>the streets. The value people stay with the value people,

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<v Speaker 1>and the beach people stay with the beach people. But

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<v Speaker 1>you can head down to Manhattan Beach. So you think

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<v Speaker 1>that if you met someone that was important enough to you,

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<v Speaker 1>you would be you should be willing to travel an

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<v Speaker 1>hour an hour and a half to to wherever it

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<v Speaker 1>is that the people say until they actually have to

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<v Speaker 1>get in the car and stan in the fourth five

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<v Speaker 1>or two hours. I mean, if you have a great

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<v Speaker 1>podcast to listen to, maybe for the commute, you never know,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. I actually was engaged to a valueball,

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<v Speaker 1>the valetball value boy, and I lived in Mdr marinadel right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I used to think it was like going to

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<v Speaker 1>the country for the weekend, because coming from Jersey and

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<v Speaker 1>Florida where I grew up, it was like that was

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<v Speaker 1>country to me, you know, the mountains and the and

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<v Speaker 1>the trees and the green and not the beach. So

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't mind going there. But a lot of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of guys don't want to. Look I have promised

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<v Speaker 1>with the O T guys where they don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>go to even South Bate to date my clients my girl. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So distance is definitely something to take into consideration, right, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So the other rule is that where you give me,

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<v Speaker 1>give me a course of your week, I'm really good

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<v Speaker 1>in analyzing some sweets. All right, so you got the

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<v Speaker 1>week off, you're not doing pressed. Where are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to meet when in on the weekends? Where you going?

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<v Speaker 1>Give me? I don't really ever actively go out to

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<v Speaker 1>meet women. I just go out and hang out with

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<v Speaker 1>my friends. And okay, so where are they? Where the

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<v Speaker 1>friends going? Are they going to Lincoln? Are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to the bar at Lincoln Bar around the corner? Where

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<v Speaker 1>you're going? We we we frequent Lincoln. Um, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually kind of been the hot spot among the friend group.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I like to go. I like to

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<v Speaker 1>be active, go to football games. Um, lazy Lincoln. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's lazy Lincoln. Right, football games are getting fixed and

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<v Speaker 1>we've got the rams now, so you can actually do that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what else? Give me another one? Um? Hiking all I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I wouldn't really meet a group of fixing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to ring in Canyon. Um, I've actually never

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<v Speaker 1>been to running. I like to do kind of more

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<v Speaker 1>of the low key ones. Okay, so you're not doing

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<v Speaker 1>anything that's female related, So let me tell you where

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<v Speaker 1>the women are. You got a pencil on paper, because

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<v Speaker 1>you clearly don't know. I've been writing every single, every

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<v Speaker 1>single word of yours down so far. Start with yoga.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, faster are sixty seventy women compared to

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe twenty male. My roommate tries to get me

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<v Speaker 1>to yoga with him every single day. There's tempers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So so you have a sixty chance of meeting girls

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<v Speaker 1>not only in your age group, but hot sexy yoga types. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you like the skinny wave, you know, no tips,

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<v Speaker 1>Sally as I like to calm you know. Then you

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<v Speaker 1>go to yoga class. Okay, one step up sole cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I've been to a cycle class before. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>you switch it up. You do Santa Monica, you do

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<v Speaker 1>in Manhattan Beach. You switch it up, switch it out

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<v Speaker 1>to the different areas on the west side to see

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<v Speaker 1>which feels better for you. And you can do equinox too.

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<v Speaker 1>You can do that too. People onto the gym. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now you've got to third classes are spiritual classes and

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<v Speaker 1>meditation classes. You want to go to umplus in Santa Monica.

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<v Speaker 1>This is assuming that this is the type of girl

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm interested in, because maybe I don't want a

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<v Speaker 1>yogi If you hike and you're athletic. You want to athletic,

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<v Speaker 1>I can let girl, So you gotta go to female

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<v Speaker 1>like orange theory, you gotta go to female related things

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to going to Gold's gym and lifting and

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<v Speaker 1>pumping irons with a bunch of guys where there are

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<v Speaker 1>no women there. Don't just tell me you like to hike.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you think that it would be important to meet someone,

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<v Speaker 1>uh something that you're already interested in? Now you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>anyone because you're argumentative here. Oh, I'm definitely the most

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<v Speaker 1>stubborn person that I know. Um. Does this advice carry

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<v Speaker 1>over for all of the listeners as well? Are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you saying that if you're interested in meeting someone,

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<v Speaker 1>you should let's let's make you mainstream. Okay, So whole

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<v Speaker 1>Whole Foods which was taken over by Amazon. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>the Whole Foods in every neighborhood in the United States, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>or there's a health foods store in their neighborhood with

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<v Speaker 1>a different name. Okay. There are spiritual classes, meditation classes, church.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're really religious, okay, you go in the church.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of churches have singles groups. If you're if

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<v Speaker 1>you're that religious or temple okay, or any other religion

0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:45.760
<v Speaker 1>that there's out there. Okay. Then you've got athletics. Okay. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, the Northerners like the Once in Colorado. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to join a ski club okay, especially women women

0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.679
<v Speaker 1>that want to find men. It's male skiers. So and

0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:57.840
<v Speaker 1>they're really good looking and they've got money. The skiing

0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:01.159
<v Speaker 1>is the most expensive ticket in town, okay. Or snowboarding,

0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:05.359
<v Speaker 1>same thanks being snowbarding. Okay. Then you've got um. So

0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:09.520
<v Speaker 1>that's the athletic part, and that's the spiritual part. Okay. Now,

0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:14.360
<v Speaker 1>just by chance, okay, there are places that are female

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<v Speaker 1>friendly to go to. Okay, So what if females like

0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:21.119
<v Speaker 1>to do They like to eat right, right, So you

0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:24.640
<v Speaker 1>want to find restaurants that are more predominantly female than male. Okay,

0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.119
<v Speaker 1>you have to do your homework. This is research. Every

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<v Speaker 1>city in the United States and every town has this.

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<v Speaker 1>But people just thro lazier creatures of habit. You keep

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<v Speaker 1>going a link and expecting a different result. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure when you're with your friends you don't pay

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<v Speaker 1>attention to women anyway, because you're drinking with your friends. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but I guess my argument. My retort is, don't you

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<v Speaker 1>think it's important to meet someone like a place of

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<v Speaker 1>shared interest? Right? So if I like go in football games,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you think it'd be great to meet someone? That's

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<v Speaker 1>if women went to football games mostly a male sport,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not female. A lot of few must go

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<v Speaker 1>with their boyfriends to the football games. How about this

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<v Speaker 1>the flip side of it. If if I'm a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>if if I'm a woman looking for a man, would

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<v Speaker 1>I should be going to golf tournament? Source should be

0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:09.680
<v Speaker 1>going to golf, tennis, basketball, and so on, all behind

0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:15.240
<v Speaker 1>sports NHL, yeah, baseball, all of that. Can I ask

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<v Speaker 1>you what? I know you touched on this a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that I remember you saying that you listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you watch Paradise a little bit. What mistakes did you

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<v Speaker 1>see me making throughout the show? Specifically, you fall in

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<v Speaker 1>love fast, like you got a little bit of vine

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<v Speaker 1>and you too, yeah he oh my god, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>cliff diver. Yeah yeah, you fall to click and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you turn on and off. You have his

0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:39.000
<v Speaker 1>you have history with like I like right on, like

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<v Speaker 1>I like right on, like I like you go up

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<v Speaker 1>and down, Like, so, how do I combat that? How

0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:44.960
<v Speaker 1>do I work on that? That's something that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do. You have to when you last time I

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<v Speaker 1>had a serious, serious girlfriend. How many years ago? M hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a year and a half, two years ago, a

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<v Speaker 1>year ago. How long was this relationship? Probably about a year? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So what went wrong? Um? I think that we stopped

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<v Speaker 1>making time for each other and I just kind of

0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:05.720
<v Speaker 1>disintegrated from there. No longer was a price. So you

0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:09.199
<v Speaker 1>lost interest? Need you lost interest? I don't know if

0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:12.040
<v Speaker 1>it was necessarily losing interest. I think that. I mean, yeah,

0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I guess if you don't prioritize the person in your relationship,

0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:17.280
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of could be deemed as losing interest. The

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<v Speaker 1>first thing you want to do is not make your

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend or girlfriend your entertainment buddies. I mean, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>here to make you have entertainment in your life. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to have a nice, calm, relaxing relationships. Their best friends.

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<v Speaker 1>We like to do the same things. We like teat

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<v Speaker 1>the same food, we like to hang in the same places. He,

0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:37.879
<v Speaker 1>she or he has your back. When you're in a

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:43.040
<v Speaker 1>desperate situation, a crisis, Uh, you lost your job, you know,

0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you have to move whatever they're there for you. And

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<v Speaker 1>then of course sexual chemistry rules the street as the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning does. But eventually that like kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still there, but it's not as heightened as it

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<v Speaker 1>is in the beginning because you're in the honeymoon's phase.

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<v Speaker 1>After three months, it'll it'll probably dip a bit. So

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<v Speaker 1>you have to look at people like this is what

0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:03.879
<v Speaker 1>you're getting for the rest of your life and not

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.960
<v Speaker 1>get bored. You have a problem of getting bored. That's

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:08.840
<v Speaker 1>but what are you bored with you or you born

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:11.080
<v Speaker 1>with them? I guess I still need to figure out

0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:14.680
<v Speaker 1>which it is, right, Okay, well that's the psychological thing

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:16.639
<v Speaker 1>that you have to take now. The second thing I

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<v Speaker 1>would do is take the Five Languages of Love test.

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:21.840
<v Speaker 1>It's a very famous test you can take online. Um

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:23.440
<v Speaker 1>it is the best test in the world. You find

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<v Speaker 1>out how you love and then you compare it to

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the person you're dating how they love. If you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have the opposite love languages, don't panic. It just means

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 1>you have to love your woman or your man the

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:35.280
<v Speaker 1>way they need to be loved in order to for

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<v Speaker 1>you to receive love, and they will do the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing to you, and it'll take a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>drama and a lot of the heat out of the

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<v Speaker 1>relationship because you may not like drama. Are you do

0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:46.840
<v Speaker 1>you like drama or you're not into drama? I have

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<v Speaker 1>preferred no drama. You look like you're an avoider. That's

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 1>what I felt like. I'm v I P. So if

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:54.400
<v Speaker 1>that's the case, then you need a girl who can

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<v Speaker 1>resolve conflict rationally even during your period, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>good which is really yeah, that's major, right, resolve conflict

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<v Speaker 1>rationally as in like sit down and have like an

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<v Speaker 1>objective viewpoint on and on kind of what's going on

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:09.160
<v Speaker 1>and how to fix it. Right. And then the other

0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>thing is you might want to become a hunter, because

0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:13.880
<v Speaker 1>we haven't decided if you're a gatherer hunter. So if

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.520
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be an alsa hunter and rule the roost,

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 1>then those are the men that would actually get online

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:21.679
<v Speaker 1>if they weren't finding it locally in their hoods. They

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 1>would actually get on Tender. They would actually get on

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<v Speaker 1>Bubble or whatnot, whatever app they like, you know, Ray

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and they would they would go hunting for

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 1>what they're looking for, like who's your celebrity crush. Um.

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it changes every day. Uh, Gal Gadio's right

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:39.160
<v Speaker 1>up there, though, maybe Emmanuel she cree because a wonder

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:41.359
<v Speaker 1>woman right now? Okay, what's the other one? Emmanuel? She

0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:45.400
<v Speaker 1>creates sloan from Entourage. I'm I'm butching butching her last name.

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I know that. But so if that's the case, then

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<v Speaker 1>go online and start hunting for the girls that look

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 1>like that that you feel most sexually attracted and then

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<v Speaker 1>see on the profile if they had interests like you had.

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:58.439
<v Speaker 1>But you've got to make an effort, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes forget your friends for a while. I know that

0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:03.720
<v Speaker 1>sounds terrible with those who travel and pactsaw on the track.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe you need to go out by yourself and

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 1>start hunting. I don't know if I could go by myself.

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 1>My friends are like the most important people to me though,

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:13.119
<v Speaker 1>so I want I definitely, Oh no, no, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be when you get and fall in love,

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:17.320
<v Speaker 1>so they're going to become second and first, it's going

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 1>to be your woman. Maybe you need to learn that

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:22.360
<v Speaker 1>lesson love is first. Love is the priority. Well I'm

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 1>still learning that. That's what That's what the point of

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 1>the podcast is. I guess we ain't got a time,

0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 1>so you're probably not gonna get seriously your thurday. But

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:33.159
<v Speaker 1>if you really want a girlfriend, you're gonna go out

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:35.679
<v Speaker 1>there and hustle it up. Then you really don't want

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 1>a girlfriend right now. I mean maybe you need to

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:41.239
<v Speaker 1>make it a priority that that definitely, definitely is an

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 1>important thing to consider. All right, Patty, Well, thank you

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:44.720
<v Speaker 1>so much for the time and all of your advice

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 1>and and god last you and I hope you have

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 1>a really good time. Just like hit me up when

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:52.160
<v Speaker 1>you're in the absolutely once for lunch. All right, I'll

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:55.159
<v Speaker 1>meet you there maybe next week and we'll discuss more. Okay,

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 1>you got it, take care of Patty. Bye. Perfect. So

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 1>so my homework will be to take the Love Languages Quiz.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be sure to do that before next week's episode.

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<v Speaker 1>What I would love is for all of the listeners,

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:09.400
<v Speaker 1>if you have the time, maybe take the love Languages

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>quiz as well. Um. I think it's five love Languages

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>dot Com the number five love Languages dot Com and

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 1>we can maybe tweet about it and then and then

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 1>discuss it next week on air. I think that'd be

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting. As Mark just said, I think I know

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:25.679
<v Speaker 1>what my love languages, but it would be interesting to

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:27.439
<v Speaker 1>see what it came back with on like a long

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's probably like a hundred question quiz or

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 1>something like that. Um, and yeah, it'd be interesting. And

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 1>then you can kind of I think as Peter was

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:35.199
<v Speaker 1>mentioning and Patty a little bit as well, as then

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:37.640
<v Speaker 1>you can start catering you know, the people that you're

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:41.639
<v Speaker 1>you're interested in. Um, you just have more more presence

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>of mind, I guess, which is a good thing. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>all wrapped up. You start opening things and you start

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<v Speaker 1>so you think you're done, but then there's like three

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<v Speaker 1>with you, I opened it up when I first walked

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<v Speaker 1>in and I've been wearing the scarf this entire time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is the comfiest thing I think I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>I've actually seen Ashley use these. We've been to Taho

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<v Speaker 1>they'd make a drastic difference. She swears by them. I

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<v Speaker 1>Next up we have Charles Orlando, who is the host

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<v Speaker 1>of seven Years Switch. Charles, are you there? I am here?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? I'm doing well? How are you? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing well? Awesome? Well, thank you so much for taking

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 1>the time to jump on. Um. Do you mind maybe

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<v Speaker 1>just introducing yourself a little bit to the listeners? Tell

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<v Speaker 1>us a little bit more about you. Sure. My name

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<v Speaker 1>is Charles Finger Orlando. I am a relationship expert. I've

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<v Speaker 1>written five books on inter personal relations and relationship dynamics uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am the co host of seven years Switch,

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<v Speaker 1>helping people rEFInd themselves after some turbulent times in their relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to and so in addition to that, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that you coined the term seven year itch as well. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, that's that goes back to a Maryland

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<v Speaker 1>and Roe movie. Um so yeah, seven the seven year

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<v Speaker 1>itches is a is a common time frame for people

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<v Speaker 1>to start re evaluating what they're doing. The meaning that

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<v Speaker 1>the honeymoon period has largely worn off and the person

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<v Speaker 1>you met seven years earlier may or may not be

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<v Speaker 1>the same version of them in front of you today.

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<v Speaker 1>So you end up having to re evaluate, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>where I think a lot of people get lost. Like

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>relationships are a constant re evaluation and a reconnection. The

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<v Speaker 1>only way that it really works because the person you

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<v Speaker 1>meet on date number one is not the person who

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to be on month six, and that's not

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<v Speaker 1>who they're going to be after year ten. So you

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<v Speaker 1>have to constantly stay in touch and can act otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>by default you are disconnecting. Got you? So, so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>marriage married couples aside. Do you think that there would

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 1>be something like the seven months it's like more casually dating.

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that kind of is a thing as well?

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Or is that something completely different? No? I think that's

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 1>probably accurate. Uh. You know, we live in a world

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>where technology is driving a combination of perceived connection and

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>what I call arms length intimacy. People read a profile,

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>or they stalk you on Instagram, or they see your

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:32.959
<v Speaker 1>post fund snatchat and they end up with a version

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 1>of you in their head even before the first date.

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 1>So the person they end up meeting has to line

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>up with all these preconceived expectations, and the truth is

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 1>that we don't know them at all. There is a

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 1>natural get to know you process that has to do

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 1>with primal courtship, having nothing to do with technology. Uh.

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 1>And to your point, after seven months, like things have

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of revealed themselves to be what they are. So

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 1>when that happens, you're now see the person instead of

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the perception or the expectation that you projected. So sure,

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 1>I think that happens in dating. Gotcha? Gotcha right? And

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>again we're on with Charles Orlando, who's the host of

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 1>seven Years Switch, which correct me if I'm wrong. Is

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 1>a show again? I know you talked about already about

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>four married couples that try to save their marriages by

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>entering essentially into a social experiment where all the four

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 1>couple switch spouses live with another participants spouse for a

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks as husband and wife, and the idea

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 1>seems crazy to me, But at the same time, I

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 1>can kind of understand the concept of leaving something that

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>you care about two I guess ultimately realize how important

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 1>they are to you in in your life. Does that

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 1>sound about right? Well, that's part of it for sure.

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>And the other part of it is that when you're

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>in damaging patterns, there's no way to stop the pattern

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 1>if you're in the pattern, So we would move these

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 1>people from it. Now, this is where people say, oh

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>my god, you're grouping them up with another person. They're

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 1>going to cheat. Well they could, but you know what,

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 1>they could cheat just by walking down the streets. We

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 1>all have that temptation. And if you're willing to cheat

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 1>on your spouse over a two week experiment to gain perspective,

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 1>like you're already long checked out of your marriage, And

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>that's part of what we bring to the table as well.

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 1>We put their relationship on fast forward, uh and an

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 1>accelerated path to learn what would probably likely happen over

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 1>the next six to twelve months. Anyway. Uh So yeah,

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's a little extreme, but it works.

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>It absolutely works. So all that said, why do you

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>think we see so many unhappy married people. Now, I

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 1>mean again, I know you said you get stuck in

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 1>these patterns and you don't begin to realize it. But

0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 1>what do you think is kind of like the root

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 1>cause for those I think a lot of people don't

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 1>know how to be honest with each other and themselves.

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a very vulnerable place to be to

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 1>look at somebody and say, you know, I'm not getting

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>what I need from you. Can you help me? And

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the other person here that statement and not say what

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 1>are you saying that I'm not doing something right? Of

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 1>course that's what you're saying. Like that sets up an

0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 1>adversarial relationship. If you could check in with your spouse

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>and say, look, I need more from you, and have

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>that person say, wow, you know I really care about you,

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 1>like I don't want you to get nothing for me.

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 1>What's missing? Let's talk about that and not have it

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 1>instantly equated to their ego or what they're doing wrong

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 1>or feel accused of something that they're failing at. Then

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>you create a dialogue where people are actually trying to

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:23.439
<v Speaker 1>address each other's needs instead of looking at it, Oh yeah, there,

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>I am screwing it. Up for you again. Like, you know,

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 1>how how do you notice social media coming into things nowadays,

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 1>especially with married couples, because that definitely changes the dynamic

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:38.400
<v Speaker 1>incredibly right. Well, communication as a whole has fundamentally shifted.

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, before you you find somebody who called you

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:42.919
<v Speaker 1>on the phone and said, you know, thanks for giving

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:44.879
<v Speaker 1>me your number, I'd love to ask you out. Now

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:47.920
<v Speaker 1>you get a text message that says, hey, you're cute,

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to bang. It's not really courtship, okay, Like

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't, I don't know who wrote that nonsense, but

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>like and they say chivalry is dead say that, well

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>you know so, I mean, it creates this this tall

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>sense of bravery and bravado, like you can you can

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:10.360
<v Speaker 1>you would say things over social media, over text message

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 1>that you would never say to somebody in person, or

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 1>if you do say it to them in person, like

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:17.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're a douche BacT or you're a jerk,

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 1>like you know, whoever, male or female, you need to

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 1>be fired. But you know, it creates a sense of

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.239
<v Speaker 1>technology as a whole, not just social media, but it

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>creates a sense um this connection even though we think

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 1>we are being connected and there's long long written studies

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 1>about about this over the past ten years, that we're

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 1>further apart than we ever have been as a society

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:43.879
<v Speaker 1>and in the dating world, it's absolutely true. Like we

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 1>it used to be that you would you put effort in.

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Now all I have to do is swipe right to

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:53.359
<v Speaker 1>show my interest. Seriously, No, no, absolutely so. I think

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 1>that's definitely a good point too. I mean, why I

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:56.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like we know so much about each other and

0:35:56.960 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 1>yet we're all still so disconnected to one another, right So, Um,

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:02.400
<v Speaker 1>sending a text message on a screen is so much

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>more impersonal than than either calling someone up or meeting

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 1>them face to face, because, like you said, I don't

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>think anyone would say some of these ridiculous things face

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 1>to face that they would be saying over text. No,

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>no way, no way, it doesn't. It doesn't happen that way. Um.

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:18.799
<v Speaker 1>And it because it's so disconnected. It sets up what

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:22.760
<v Speaker 1>has no choice but to be a predatory or hot

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:26.719
<v Speaker 1>or not environment. Uh. It gives people the ability to

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of shop around for a while, create false expectations, uh,

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:34.439
<v Speaker 1>and then disappear on people. That's why ghosting and breadcrumbing

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 1>have become these huge issues where you just kind of

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 1>play the field technologically, and then you find somebody who

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 1>addresses a few of your needs and just drop everybody

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 1>else without even so much as a goodbybe it was

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:49.319
<v Speaker 1>nice to meet you. So, Charles, do you find yourself

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 1>dealing mostly with like, married couples that have been in

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 1>long term relationships? Do you find yourself dealing with any um,

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, struggling perspective couples, anything like that. My client

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 1>base is really really the diverse. So I've worked with

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 1>mary couples. I worked with married uh men by themselves,

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 1>married women by themselves, uh, lots of daters, people who

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 1>are trying to rEFInd themselves after a broken relationship. I've

0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>even flown out to a number of cities and acted

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:19.319
<v Speaker 1>as kind of a makeshift hitch as a wingman on

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 1>dates many times. So I it kind of covers the

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 1>whole spectrum of love and relationships. So you can kind

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 1>of consider yourself the real life date doctor in a

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of ways. I wouldn't. I wouldn't say that The

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:35.720
<v Speaker 1>New York Times said I was Carrie Bradshaw on the pitch.

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:39.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I could that. Those are two

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:42.399
<v Speaker 1>pretty big shoes to spell Okay, I guess. I mean

0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 1>you said you've been published five times some bestsellers. You

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 1>obviously are hosting these TV shows. That's all amazing stuff.

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Well it's been a lot of fun, but I tell

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:52.400
<v Speaker 1>you what, it all pales in comparison to the people

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 1>that I helped every day. And I know it sounds tripe,

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:57.279
<v Speaker 1>but I don't care. Like people get into this industry

0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:00.080
<v Speaker 1>for a variety of reasons. Some people want to be this,

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 1>some people want to make money. Some people want to

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 1>feel that their egos pain stroked on a daily basis.

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:08.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't care about any of that. Like, I get

0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 1>letters in that just blow me away with people who

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 1>have taken words that I've said and applied them to

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 1>their life and they've made real shift and changes for themselves.

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 1>And forgive me if that's all I really care about.

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, the books and the TV it's fantastic.

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm blessed and honored, but it just really gives me

0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:29.359
<v Speaker 1>a broader platform to help people get out of their

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:31.840
<v Speaker 1>own way. That's perfect, Charles. I think it's safe to

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 1>say that you're definitely in it for the right reasons,

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's rare nowadays. Well, I appreciate that absolutely well, Charles,

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 1>thank you again for you taking the time to call in.

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:41.279
<v Speaker 1>I definitely appreciate the advice. I'm sure the listeners will

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:43.880
<v Speaker 1>appreciate all the advice as well. And um, best of

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 1>luck to you and maybe we can can recap later

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 1>on in the year as well. Oh for sure, my pleasure.

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having me, and I'd like to thank you sir.

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 1>All Right, Charles Orlando, host of seven year Switch, Take

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:57.360
<v Speaker 1>care have a good day. So unfortunately this week we

0:38:57.400 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 1>won't be able to do a segment of do you

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Suck at Dating? But we will be taking some emails

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 1>and I tweeted out an email address I suck at

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Dating at ihart media dot com and we we got

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:10.399
<v Speaker 1>a bunch And I appreciate you guys taking the time

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 1>too and the bravery honestly to email some of your

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 1>dating uh follies and allowing me to share them um

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:19.320
<v Speaker 1>on air here. So Sarah says, my biggest dating problem

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 1>is that I can never get guys that I'm interested

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 1>in to want to be in a committed relationship with me.

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 1>After a few great dates, I always get hit with

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:27.839
<v Speaker 1>the line I think you're amazing, but I'm not looking

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:29.799
<v Speaker 1>for anything serious right now. I don't know if it's

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:31.879
<v Speaker 1>just a generational thing as and everyone wants to keep

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:34.160
<v Speaker 1>things casual or something that I'm doing or not doing.

0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:36.720
<v Speaker 1>What makes you decide that you want to be exclusive

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 1>with the girl? Is it something you know as soon

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 1>as you meet someone, or can it change over time

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 1>once you get to know her. Thank you for your input.

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:45.879
<v Speaker 1>So that's actually a good question. And I've I think

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 1>that that kind of boils down to labels, right, and

0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I've always kind of been a slave of two labels.

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I think I I need to have a conversation with

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 1>someone in order to be their boyfriend, right, So I

0:39:57.200 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 1>need to be able to sit down and say, hey,

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 1>let's let's be boyfriend girlfriend. Otherwise up until that point,

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:02.719
<v Speaker 1>we're kind of just dating, right. And I was thinking

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 1>about this the other day too. It is even looking

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>back to to Rachel season of The Bachelorette, like her

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:10.880
<v Speaker 1>and I never had a discussion about that, and like,

0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 1>as as real as all of the emotions and feelings

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 1>that I had for her were, I still don't think

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:17.319
<v Speaker 1>I would consider her my girlfriend at any point because

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 1>we never sat down and had that discussion, right, so

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:22.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe what Sarah saying is she needs to find

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 1>someone that wants to label a relationship with her as

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 1>a girlfriend boyfriend. If that's what she's looking for, maybe

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 1>that comes with need to be pursuing older men. Sounds

0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:32.239
<v Speaker 1>like she's probably dealing with a lot of younger men.

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:35.759
<v Speaker 1>The girl that I had this experience with, she she

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:37.719
<v Speaker 1>was a pursuer, I guess you could say. So. She

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 1>was very happily taking into her her hands to make

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 1>sure that we were doing things constantly together. And I

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 1>think that eventually I was like, Wow, this girl is great,

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I really enjoy spending time with her. Um, this

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 1>is definitely a relationship that I want to be exclusive

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 1>in and and have her be my girlfriend. Yeah. I mean,

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it just boils back down to even you

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 1>look back at her. Our guests Charles Peter um Patty.

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:01.760
<v Speaker 1>They also communication is one the most important things, and um,

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>that goes to to every level of the relationship, whether

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 1>it's just starting out or it's been you know, a

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:08.279
<v Speaker 1>fourty year marriage. I think that they're being open and

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 1>being clear about what you want and what you need

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:14.000
<v Speaker 1>and what you're looking for is is very important. Right. Well,

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 1>Sarah thank you for emailing. I look forward to I mean,

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:18.920
<v Speaker 1>hopefully Sarah, you take the five love Languages tests and

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 1>we can get another email from you next week and

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:22.840
<v Speaker 1>see exactly what you're looking for. All right, Well that

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:25.360
<v Speaker 1>was episode two of Help I Suck At Dating. I

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:28.360
<v Speaker 1>want to give one more big thank you to my guests.

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Peter Krauss, who was on my season in The Bachelort

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Great Guy, Love him to Death, Patti Stanger, host of

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:38.880
<v Speaker 1>The Million Dollar Matchmaker, Charles Orlando from seven Years Switch

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 1>on the f y I Network, and of course Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>for emailing. And that was that was great. Um. So

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<v Speaker 1>next week we're gonna get uncomfortable again and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to one of my exes, my high school sweetheart, Carmel,

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<v Speaker 1>who was the first love of my life. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm honest enough with myself to admit that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping to get her on I honestly haven't reached out

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<v Speaker 1>to her quite yet, but I hope I still have

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<v Speaker 1>her phone number. Um, but I'm excited. I hope that

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<v Speaker 1>she can, you know, maybe give you guys a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more insight into what it was like to date

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<v Speaker 1>me in high school. I don't know if she watches

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<v Speaker 1>the show, but maybe she should give She could give

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<v Speaker 1>her opinion on on kind of how I handle myself

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<v Speaker 1>on on Bachelor in Paradise and what I can do

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<v Speaker 1>to improve. I do know that she's married now, or

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<v Speaker 1>she might have just a very long term boyfriend. Either way,

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<v Speaker 1>she's been in a relationship for five or six years,

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<v Speaker 1>which is great. I'm very very happy for her, UM

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<v Speaker 1>hoping to have her on. I am also very hopeful

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<v Speaker 1>that we can get Brian on. Brian ABIs solo who

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<v Speaker 1>was the winner of the same season that I was

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<v Speaker 1>on with Bachette with Rachel, So Rachel's fiance Brian, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be great to have him on. He and

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel seemed to be very very happy together, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that any advice that he would have to offer

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<v Speaker 1>would be great, and I think that I could benefit

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<v Speaker 1>greatly from that. So I'm looking forward. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>guys tune in next week to help I suck at dating.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Dean Angler, and maybe next week I

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<v Speaker 1>will suck a little bit less. Follow help I suck

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