1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: All right, and there he is Marcus Tims kind enough 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: to join the program here on foul Territory, the newest 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: member of the coaching staff for the Kansas City Royals. Marcus, 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: great to be with you. Thanks for taking the time. 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Why did this make sense for you? Welcome to the show. 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: Thanks for you guys for having me. 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: Why did the Royals assistant or second hitting coach? Not 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: assistant but second hitting coach? Why did that make sense 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: for you? Right now? 10 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: You know, I've been doing this long enough now and 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: I am just willing to to help any organization try 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 3: to win with my experiences and my expertise on the 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: hitting side. Like I said, I've been doing it for 14 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 3: a while. They have too me in place and just 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 3: being able to assist him and to to help. 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: The hitters to try to get better. 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 4: Marcus, you been doing it for a while. Come on 18 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 4: like you? 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 5: I mean you There is I can go through on 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 5: my rolodex of texts from you. I mean it is 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 5: every year you get a new job at different places. 22 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 5: What the heck is going on? 23 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 4: Like? 24 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 5: Why why do you feel like the hitting coach position? 25 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 5: Because we've asked other guys this, why do you feel 26 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 5: like the hitting coach position is something that is so 27 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 5: just well, you know what, team hit good, you're fired, 28 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 5: Team hit bad, You're fired. Why do you feel like 29 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 5: that is the case? And do you ever I know 30 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 5: you get sick of it, but do you feel like 31 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 5: there's an answer that's out there unless you're unless you're 32 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 5: k Long or I'm trying to think who else sites 33 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 5: are kept a job for a little while, but nobody knows. 34 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 5: You know, there's people who are like I hated Kevin 35 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 5: Sitz as a hitting coach. I hated k Long as 36 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 5: a hitting coach, Like is it because it's such an 37 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 5: easy position to get rid of? 38 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: Like what is it? You know, I'm trying to find 39 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: find the root of it? 40 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: Actually I have no idea, man, But I just I 41 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: continue to just try to do my job and and 42 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: and try to help help help players. But you know, 43 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: I've had some situations where the manager was let go 44 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: and I was part of the staff. You know, in Chicago, 45 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 3: the manager let go, was let go, held me over 46 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: to the next year, then I was let go again. 47 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 3: But I keep getting jobs. Man, I guess I'm doing 48 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: something right for somebody. 49 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: I think you're doing a lot right for a lot 50 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: of people. Let me ask you this, because you played 51 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: ten years in the show, how has the position changed 52 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: since you had hitting coaches to when you became one? 53 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: The game is different now? How do you handle that 54 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: that transition? 55 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, the game is different, you know. 56 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 3: I go back to Yeah, like when I played, like 57 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 3: there's only one hitting coach for thirteen guys or twelve 58 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 3: guys or whatever it was. 59 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: But now there's a lot of different different moving parts now. 60 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: You know, you have a lot of the new things 61 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 3: in the cages, a lot of the technology. Now you 62 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: have two hitting coaches, in some cases you have three, 63 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: just having the personnel in the cages with the with 64 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 3: the hitting coaches to be able to evolve with the game, 65 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: but to make sure you have somebody ready. 66 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: For each each each each type hitter you have. 67 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 4: Marcus, what's your philosophy on hitting? 68 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 6: How do you blend analytics and and and the old school? 69 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 4: Wait? 70 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 6: What what's your what's your big thing that when you 71 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 6: go into a job that you try to say to 72 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 6: to the hitters. 73 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: Number one thing for me, aj is it's getting to 74 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: know my players. Crashing has been around me. I'm not 75 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 3: a cookie cutter. I think in this game. I've evolved 76 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: over the years of just just making sure each player 77 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: know their strengths and try to maximize their strengths. And 78 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 3: I think when you do that, you can get the 79 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 3: best out of a group of guys. So so as 80 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: a philosophy, that terminology is thrown around a lot, But 81 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: for me, it's just each guy is totally different, and 82 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: I try to get the best out of each guy 83 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: and what they bring to the table. And so when 84 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: it comes to philosophy, man, that word is thrown around 85 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: a lot, but I just try to make sure I'll 86 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: get the best out of each guy. 87 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 5: I've seen it. I've seen it, so I can, I can, 88 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 5: I can. I can agree with that. But my question 89 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 5: is I played in Kansas City. Kansas City is a 90 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 5: different type of stadium. Can you take your same approach? 91 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 5: Because all you talked about was just getting. 92 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: To know the guys. 93 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 5: You didn't you didn't say, well, you know what, you know, 94 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 5: we got to get this dip, we got to get 95 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 5: this in the slot, all this stuff you said, getting 96 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 5: to know the guys. But don't you also feel like 97 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 5: there's some preconceived ideas, Like you look at this line 98 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 5: and you're like, Wow, these guys they didn't strike out 99 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 5: at all. The Blue Jays they didn't strike out at all. Okay, 100 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 5: there's a comparison there. You're like, Ah, you know what, 101 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 5: you guys got to hit a few more dingers, and 102 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 5: they say, have you hit in Kaufman in the last 103 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 5: fourteen years? The ball does not travel? Like how much 104 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 5: do you have to shift that because of where you're 105 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 5: getting a job? Because you went to Chicago before you 106 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 5: had zero you know, besides talkman, you didn't have many 107 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 5: big league hitters, so you had to shift your approach 108 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 5: on that too. 109 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 3: I think just with you know, in the game of baseball, 110 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: you have nine guys on the field, right, not everybody's 111 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: the same. So so for me, it's it's like, Noah, 112 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 3: Kaufman is a big ballpark. You know, you're gonna have 113 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 3: your bobbers, You're gonna have guys that get on base. 114 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: So we have to make sure we maximize each guy 115 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: that's in that line up their strengths. And if you're 116 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: not a guy who's gonna hit the ball out of 117 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: the ballpark, you got to get on basics score runs 118 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 3: for they're the guys. So it's all about blending that 119 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: blending that together, and that's what you make a good, 120 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 3: good lineup with a team like what. 121 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 2: We have in Kansas City to put. 122 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 4: Out there every night. 123 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: Marcus, everybody has a guy now, right, So many of 124 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: the guys that you are mentoring and coaching have their 125 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: own private hitting coach. How do you manage that and 126 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: how do you make sure that what you're saying is 127 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: kind of getting in because they have a lot of information, right, 128 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: how do you work that? 129 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 3: Getting to know my guys Like if gods have a 130 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: hitting guy a line I've always been been open. I'm 131 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: open because at the end of the day, they're going 132 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: to go listen to these guys. I've been doing this 133 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: for a while and they're going to go listen to 134 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 3: these guys. They have their hear So for me, I'll 135 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: make sure I try to get out and go see 136 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: the guys who they're working with and try to build 137 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: a relationship with those guys. 138 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: It's a two way street, right, if they're. 139 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 3: Going to continue to listen to them, I got to 140 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: get my ego out of the way and go see 141 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: these guys. And then because I'm with them every single day, 142 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: So so for me, I don't do myself, as with 143 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: any justice by not going to see guys. So I 144 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 3: like going to see who they're working with, so I 145 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: can have a good feel for guys when they do come. 146 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 2: Come to our come to our ballpark. 147 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 5: Right when you look ahead, I mean you you've played, 148 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 5: you've played, You've coached on so many teams. Do you 149 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 5: ever look at it and go, yeah, sure, I'll go 150 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 5: to the Royals. I want to see what Bobby with 151 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 5: Junior is all about. Like I've seen it six times 152 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 5: throughout the year. Are there any players in the league 153 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 5: where you're like, I'm kind of impressed with that guy, 154 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,679 Speaker 5: and is Bobby with one of those guys Crassy? 155 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 3: I always watched the best player on each team. I've 156 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: always done it even when I was playing. You know, 157 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: I was a role guy as a player, so every 158 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 3: team that came in, I would always get out and 159 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: see how those guys took VP, you know, watch their 160 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 3: at bast So Bobby, Bobby's been great, man. I've been 161 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 3: blessed to be around some of the best hitters in 162 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 3: the game, and I don't take that lightly. But I'm 163 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: still even though even those guys Crassy, they want to 164 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 3: be coached, So I got to try to find whatever 165 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 3: it is Bobby watch from me needs for me and 166 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 3: just try to be able to extra set of os 167 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 3: for him to try to get them better. 168 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: If you were a pitcher, you say that you've been 169 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: around the best guys in the game in terms of hitting. 170 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: If you were a pitcher, who would you not want 171 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: to face right now? That's active. 172 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: You can't put me on a spot like that. 173 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: You don't even have to pick a Royal, pick some 174 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: other team. 175 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just there's there's a lot of guys out there, 176 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: and you know, you can go from top. You know, 177 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: the top guys is just one of the m vps 178 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: in both leagues. I've had both of those guys and 179 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: and I've seen the work that they put in behind 180 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: behind the you know, behind the closed doors. But uh, 181 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: it's tough. I can't pick one guy because I'm sure 182 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: they're listening and they'll get out. But I'm blessed to 183 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: be able to be around some really good talented players. 184 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 4: All Right, I'm gonna make you pick. I'm gonna make 185 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 4: you pick, but I'm gonna make you pick a different one. 186 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 4: All right. 187 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say it's show hey better than Aaron 188 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 5: Judge at hitting. Should Cal have gotten more of a 189 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 5: consideration than what he did for MVP He got thirteen 190 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 5: of the thirty votes and your boy, a a Ron 191 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 5: Judge got seventeen. 192 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I am Cal did a hell of a job. 193 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: He did a really, really good job. 194 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 3: But I just just mean knowing Aaron and what he 195 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: brings to that team over in New York, I just 196 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: think that I think they got it right. You know, 197 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: I enjoyed watching Cal. I thought he did it one 198 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 3: heck of a job. But I still thought Aaron Aaron 199 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: asked him out because of the numbers he. 200 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 7: Put up. 201 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 5: All right, working with Connor Dawson. Did you know Connor 202 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 5: at all before you got this job? 203 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: Haven't? Haven't. Haven't met him yet. Just talked to him 204 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: on the phone briefly, and I'm gonna get with him. 205 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: Here in the next couple of days and we'll start 206 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: picking each other's brain and see how we can we 207 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: can help the hitting department down there. 208 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 5: What do you think, because we just talked to Jase Tingler, 209 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 5: who's going to be most likely a bench coach or 210 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 5: some kind of crazy name for Tony V. Tell him 211 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 5: a guy like Hunter Dawson's been around based bore, he's 212 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 5: been around pro ball. 213 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 4: What things is he going to run into today? He's 214 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 4: gonna have a struggle with. 215 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 5: At the big league level being the head guy without 216 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 5: ever being the head guy. Because you've been both. You 217 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 5: were you were you, You've been the assistant, you've been 218 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 5: a second coach. But you know, whatever the name is, 219 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 5: you've seen all the roles. What do you feel like 220 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 5: somebody coming in it's never been the head hitting coach 221 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 5: can struggle with that. You can help him nip that 222 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 5: in the bud right away. 223 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 3: It's just the experience in a dougout crass, it gets fast, 224 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 3: you know, you know, watching the game, watching you know, 225 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 3: reading players swings and stuff like that. But I'm just 226 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 3: gonna be able to help him, you know, with the games, 227 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 3: the speed of it. He's never done it. He's mentioned 228 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 3: that to me. He's like, Marcus, I'm gonna use your 229 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 3: experience to help me out. So that's what I'll be 230 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 3: there for because it does get fast. Because as a 231 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: head guy had an assistant, I got thrown out of 232 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 3: the game and then all of. 233 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: A sudden he's he's out in the dugout by himself. 234 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 3: After the game he comes in, he's like, man, that 235 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 3: was really fast, So just making sure he can help 236 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: help him slow. 237 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 4: The game down. 238 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: Marcus, how do you challenge or how do you balance 239 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: rather the duties that you're going to have. Obviously being 240 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: the second hitting coach, you're gonna be working with Connor, 241 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: You're going to be doing some things. But do you 242 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: do it based on guy's approach, personality, similarities, who you 243 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: know who needs the work at the time. How will 244 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: you manage the workload? How does that work? 245 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: We haven't really talked about it yet Atlanta, but we will. 246 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 3: But it's got a bit process and we have to 247 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 3: make sure that that we're buttoned up to make sure 248 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 3: like once the guys get in there, we're ready to 249 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: go and be able to give the guys what they need. 250 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 4: Can you still hit? They're gonna let you. 251 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 5: You're gonna you're gonna get in there and show the 252 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 5: boys because I've seen that, I've seen that swing. I'm 253 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 5: glad the oblique stayed together. But can you still swing it? 254 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 5: I mean, you're only forty eight. The gray on your 255 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 5: chin looks like that feels like it might be a 256 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 5: little bit more. But being a hitting coach, So I 257 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 5: try to let the guys swing it. 258 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 4: Man. 259 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 3: But I got a bad hip now, so I can't 260 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 3: can't do too much. I can't run, but my hands 261 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 3: still work, so that never leaves me. But no, I'm 262 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: just just now. I'm just here for the boys, man, 263 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 3: and try to give them whatever they need to try 264 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: to help them be the best players that. 265 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: They can do. 266 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: Marcus, so much of the game today, and you certainly 267 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: know better than I is. You know, strikeout or home run, 268 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: there's there's three, there's three possible outcomes, right, But the 269 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: thing is, I wonder what your approach is. I know 270 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: that JJ with the Royals obviously wants to you want 271 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: to work on average for a team, but you also 272 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: want to work on power. What is your philosophy in 273 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: terms of you know, it's okay to strike out? A 274 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: lot of it now is let's hit home runs. Like 275 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: what's your philosophy around offense and how it should be? 276 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody think it's okay to strike out. And I 277 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 3: hear that a lot, and people say, and I have 278 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 3: buddies that like, they don't care about striking out. I 279 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 3: have an eight year old son. He doesn't want to 280 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 3: streak it out so that narrative is out there. And 281 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: just for me, I think when gods talk about power, 282 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 3: you have to know what part of the zone that 283 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: you you perform well in and it's up to us 284 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: to you some of the numbers, some of the metrics 285 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 3: to make sure we give these guys the right information 286 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: because you can't go up there and cover the whole play, 287 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: you know, And that's the thing I think guys get 288 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 3: in trouble with when you're trying to hunt for power, 289 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 3: because I always say, if you chase power, you're going 290 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 3: to chase pictures. So for me, it's all about letting 291 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: my guys know what part of the zone they do 292 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 3: damaging and what they don't, because you got to make 293 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: sure you maximize what you do well. And I think 294 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 3: that's going to help moving forward. But when people say 295 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 3: guys don't care about striking out, I don't. I don't 296 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: think so because I did have Aaron Judge in New 297 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 3: York and he hated striking out. And I know the 298 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 3: numbers were open, but the numbers have started to come 299 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 3: down over over quite the last few years. Have an experience. 300 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 3: So for me, when people say guys don't care about 301 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 3: striking out. I don't think that that's not fair because 302 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: you've played this game. You don't like walking back to that, Doug, 303 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: because it's a lonely good. 304 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 5: Straight AJ says is we say it all the time 305 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 5: on the show, striking out sucks. 306 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 4: Nobody wants to strike out. 307 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 5: But I know you've meld into the you know, the 308 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 5: old school approach with the new school, and I know 309 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 5: you got a little bit of a temper. Have you 310 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 5: ever broken one of the iPads? When you see dudes 311 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 5: using too many of them? 312 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: I'm a big fan. 313 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of make sure the guys watched 314 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 3: the game, chrasy, you know me, I think sometimes that 315 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 3: the iPad is a devil, but you know they have it, 316 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 3: they're gonna use it. I'm just I'm just trying to 317 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 3: make sure you guys are using it the right way. 318 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 4: You know. 319 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of like, yeah, you can look 320 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: at it. You're like, as soon as I get it, 321 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: if you look at it and your and your timing 322 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: is off, don't even look at anything else because you're 323 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 3: gonna go down a rabbit hole that you don't need to. 324 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: So I think just using it the right way. But yeah, 325 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: sometimes the iPads. 326 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: I've wanted to put a couple in the traps for. 327 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: Marcus. 328 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: You're still in this game for a good reason. Best 329 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: of luck to you in the new position with the 330 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: Kansas City Royals. Best of luck to the Royals. I'm 331 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: moving forward into the twenty twenty six season. Thanks for 332 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: being with us. We appreciate your time. 333 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 2: Thank you God for having it. 334 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 7: You know, I felt like I was one of the 335 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 7: best defenders ever out there in center field, and I said, 336 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 7: you know, I'm very confident in my defensive ability and 337 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 7: put me up against anyone, and I want to see 338 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 7: if that could translate into coaching and knowing what I 339 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 7: know now is I'm very good at it, and uh, 340 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 7: you know, I'm the one that you would want in 341 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 7: front of your players coaching them up if I'm being honest, 342 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 7: and which I am. So here's what I would love 343 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 7: to do. I would love to maximize my potential and 344 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 7: I don't want to commit to one organization necessarily. I 345 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 7: want to see how many organizations out there would love 346 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 7: to have me around for like five days at a time. Ideally, 347 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 7: I would love to show up to spring training and 348 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 7: get stuff locked in where I'm showing up five days 349 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 7: at a time and treat me as if I'm employed 350 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 7: by you guys, because I'm going to give it my 351 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 7: all for the five days that I'm there, and I 352 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 7: know in that amount of time, I can go through 353 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,239 Speaker 7: everything with the outfitters and get them routines, throwing program, 354 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 7: the way we go about drill's batting practice. All this 355 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 7: stuff is so crucial and so overlooked in so many ways. 356 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 7: And the way I went about these things or why 357 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 7: I had the product on the field throughout my whole career, 358 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 7: and I know other guys can achieve much more if 359 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 7: if we do the little things right on them backfields 360 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 7: and spring training when no one's watching and setting the 361 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 7: precedent early on so and then throughout the season. You know, 362 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 7: if I need to go visit Double A or your 363 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 7: Triple A or whoever, you know, just one of those things, 364 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 7: I will go work. I will go work for days 365 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 7: at a time whatever is needed during the season. This 366 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 7: past year I did three days and that was perfect. 367 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 7: And I just want to be viewed as like a 368 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 7: get right coach. 369 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: I love that. First of all, good for Kevin Kiermeyer 370 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: put himself out there. I can appreciate that a lot. 371 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: The guy doesn't need to work and he wants to 372 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: continue to be in this game that we all love 373 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: so much. AJ I'll start with you, how many guys 374 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: out there want what Kevin Kiermeyer seems to want? Maybe 375 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: you know outfield guys that want to. 376 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 6: Work on their agent, a free agent coaching job where 377 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 6: you just bounce and do whatever you want. 378 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 4: Sign me up. No, we're commercial. 379 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: We're a commercial right now, right, we're commercial? 380 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 4: Right? What the fuck is he talking about? 381 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 6: Like I want to go to spring training and then 382 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 6: what what the fuck are we talking about? 383 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: Like? 384 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to go from spring training and spring training. Yeah, sure, 385 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 6: show me your secrets, and then show me your secrets, 386 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 6: and then show me your secrets and then one day 387 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 6: maybe I'll be a coach on one team and I 388 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 6: can use all these secrets to help this Like what 389 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 6: are we talking about? 390 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: It doesn't work. 391 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 6: We can just be like, hey, I want to go 392 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 6: to this spring training for five I want to go 393 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 6: to Arizona for two weeks and spend three teams. And I'm 394 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 6: gonna go to Florida for three days for two weeks. 395 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 6: You know, I'll meet with four or five teams, and 396 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 6: then I like, what the sorry, what the fuck are 397 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 6: we talking about.