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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast. Mrs Randy Moss, Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the League Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by a

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Speaker 1: room full of heroes, Chris Westling, Mark Sessler and Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: What's up, boys, Happy to be in here on my

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Speaker 1: so called off day. A lot of heroes here. You know.

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Speaker 1: None of us ate lunch because the news has been

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Speaker 1: flowing fast today West here on his off day working.

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Speaker 1: It's it's regular. Still my favorite thing. And welcome back

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Speaker 1: Mark after your absence. Thank you. I had noticed while

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Speaker 1: it was going on Twitter that you had lent to

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Speaker 1: speculation that I had been released in some sort of

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Speaker 1: final roster cut than we had to get down to three,

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Speaker 1: right I did. Yeah, I did not begin that speculation,

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Speaker 1: thing probably in the world right now is Chris Westling

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Speaker 1: off days. West in the office today in his khaki shorts.

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Speaker 1: I just want to go over a list before we

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Speaker 1: Settler's off day. Um, and get let me know West

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Speaker 1: if I miss anything for your off days and involves

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Speaker 1: beer and just check check check alright, shuffle board, not really,

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Speaker 1: just film study? It is that I I have. I'm

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Speaker 1: being raised. There are no many Malemen running around. I've

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Speaker 1: never seen Dan right out things ahead of time in preparation.

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Speaker 1: And that was He had that list, and that was

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Speaker 1: we have a good show today. Ka Rich behind the glass,

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Speaker 1: welcome k Rich. How are you today? All as well? Guys?

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Speaker 1: Excited for week one? Right around the corner, k Ridge

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Speaker 1: you didn't sound that excited about it, didn't that excited?

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Speaker 1: This is the k Rich is very feisty. She'll let

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Speaker 1: be jumping off the walls. All right, So we have

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Speaker 1: a big show. We're gonna talk about the Thursday night opener,

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Speaker 1: which finally football is upon us Ravens and Broncos. We

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Speaker 1: do a little news with k Rich. We're gonna finally

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Speaker 1: make our Super Bowl picks and basically talk about our

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Speaker 1: final four. But yeah, we should definitely start with real

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Speaker 1: football coming back tomorrow night in Denver, the Super Bowl champions,

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Speaker 1: the defending champions, Ravens against the Broncos. Who wants to

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Speaker 1: start out, well, we should start with the big news.

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Speaker 1: it's another thing to be missing Champ Bailey, your Hall

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Speaker 1: Not to mention that Elvis Dumerville, you know, coming off

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Speaker 1: Why not? All right, I'll start. I think the Broncos win.

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Speaker 1: But I think the Broncos are gonna be very good

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Speaker 1: a team that shouldn't be under the radar with Manning

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Speaker 1: too much. But second late, I know now love him.

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Speaker 1: Uh he is finding he is correct because before the

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Speaker 1: Panthers figured out what how to kind of get their

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Speaker 1: run game going, they you know, we wrote a post

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Speaker 1: about this last year. They basically run endless stuff out

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Speaker 1: of shotgun and read read zone option plays and basically

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Speaker 1: had very little effective is trying to channel it through

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton and they got back to basics. And that's

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Speaker 1: what Smith was talking about that you know, Chud got

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Speaker 1: too cute and it happened number one on that Week

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Speaker 1: three game against the Giants, which was a disaster for

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Speaker 1: Caroline on multiple levels. And but it's a guy, you

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Speaker 1: know saying basically, oh, Mike Schula is gonna come in

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Speaker 1: and save us. I'll wait for about three weeks to

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Speaker 1: hear what Smith has to say about Mike Schula. If

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Speaker 1: he's still alive, he might be taped to a chair

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Speaker 1: getting pushed. Well. Probably the most offensive thing Smith said

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Speaker 1: was that Chadynsky was just auditioning for other head coaching jobs,

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Speaker 1: that he was putting basically his own personal career interests

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Speaker 1: ahead of the team, and that in and by the way,

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Speaker 1: just for fun, just for Mark especially, I'll give you

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Speaker 1: one more Brown's headline, Brown's kicker, Billy Kundiff replacing a

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Speaker 1: legend like Phil Dawson quote is a good thing that

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Speaker 1: we'll come back to. Um Okay, okay, Rich, that's it

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Speaker 1: for the news right, all right, So our last top

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Speaker 1: Thank you kay, Rich. That was great, twelve out of ten.

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Speaker 1: As always our last topic, we're gonna do our Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl pick. It's time all season we're gonna be doing.

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll do some variation of our weekly picks,

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Speaker 1: and our debut of the weekly picks will beyond Thursday

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Speaker 1: on the on the site that around the League blog.

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Speaker 1: But right now we're gonna do Super Bowl picks. Uh West,

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Speaker 1: do you want to start out? Who do you have

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Speaker 1: your final four? And who wins it? All? Sure? I'll

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Speaker 1: start you know, I was um watching a lot of

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Speaker 1: Texans film last night, and the more I watched him,

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Speaker 1: the more I liked him. Shop is still a question mark.

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Speaker 1: But J. J. Watt is the best player on the

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Speaker 1: field almost every time he takes the field, and he's

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Speaker 1: just in the backfield on every play. It's it's incredible.

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Speaker 1: You throw in Cushing, DeAndre Hopkins. Uh. Jonathan Joseph is healthy.

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Speaker 1: I watched him shut down A. J. Green for the

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Speaker 1: entire first half of that playoff game. Um, you've got

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Speaker 1: um Bentaate is healthy. He wasn't last year. So you've

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Speaker 1: got two new weapons on offense that you didn't have

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Speaker 1: for the most of last year. And you've got too healthy.

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Speaker 1: Two out of your three best defenders are healthy this year.

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Speaker 1: The Texans are going to roll through the NFC or

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Speaker 1: the a f C South, I think. Um, so they

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Speaker 1: play the Broncos. Broncos go to the Super Bowl. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, I feel like the Broncos offense can go

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Speaker 1: two thousand and seven Patriots and their defense by the

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Speaker 1: time Von Miller gets back will be good enough. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I think people forget that the Broncos had the best

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Speaker 1: defense in the NFL for the final three months of

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Speaker 1: last season after they got off to a slow start.

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Speaker 1: So I've got Broncos and in the NFC, I've got

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Speaker 1: Packers over Seahawks just because I trust Aaron Rodgers more. Um,

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Speaker 1: I feel like the Packers upgraded at running back and

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Speaker 1: in on defense. I just, you know, even if the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks have a better roster, I trust the Packers to

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Speaker 1: come through in the playoffs. And I've got Broncos over

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Speaker 1: Packers in the Super Bowl little nineties seven rematch right there.

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Speaker 1: I like that, uh Sel, what do you got? I

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Speaker 1: uh mentioned right off the top that I thought that

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Speaker 1: Denver would lose this game against the Ravens and people

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Speaker 1: would start to freak out. But I think they'll quickly realize,

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Speaker 1: as West has mentioned, that Denver's offense is good enough

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Speaker 1: to harry whatever issues they have on defense. I also

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Speaker 1: think that we overrate players being out for the start

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Speaker 1: of seasons in the sense that by the time von

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Speaker 1: Miller is back, you know, there's plenty of room for

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Speaker 1: Denver to make up whatever was lost. Count It might

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Speaker 1: be it's a strange form of it. Maybe I have

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Speaker 1: them getting to the a f C title game against

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Speaker 1: New England and I've mentioned already that Tom Brady is

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Speaker 1: my m v P pick, and Uh, I believe that

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Speaker 1: New England will beat Denver in one great last Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady versus Peyton Manning duel and go to the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl against the winner of the Seahawks and the Bears.

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Speaker 1: I think the Bears are going to win a playoff

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Speaker 1: game over potentially a higher seeded team, get into the

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Speaker 1: NFC Title Game, but fall to Seattle, and then I'm

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Speaker 1: going to have New England topping Seattle in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: One last Belichick, Brady Crown, did you listen to our podcast? Uh?

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Speaker 1: The other day Monday? Again? There was no I was busy. Please,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about our theory that you love

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Speaker 1: the Bears and Mark Trestman so much? Because Mark Trestman

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Speaker 1: is the coach that reminds you the most of Mark Sessler.

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Speaker 1: That spelled with a ce, spelled with a sea spelled

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Speaker 1: the noble way. Um, I'm not sure I know enough

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Speaker 1: about him to say that he reminds me of me,

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Speaker 1: But a little nugget from his past. When Cleveland last

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Speaker 1: won a division title pre Belichick, it was an eighty

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Speaker 1: nine with Bud Carson and our offensive coordinator was Mark Trestman,

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Speaker 1: and he got a lot out of that offense, and

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Speaker 1: I never forgot him since I'm not sure that I

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Speaker 1: see like a personality blueprint. All roads lead back to Brea. Okay, Dan,

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Speaker 1: not Flora park Corea. Um, okay, my pick. You know what.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. By the way, Cessler. I believe

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Speaker 1: that we get one last Brady Manning Bowl and it

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Speaker 1: would be the fourth one in January. And uh, at

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Speaker 1: least that's what I hope happens, and we ie we

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Speaker 1: kind of got robbed of this past January. I think

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Speaker 1: it happens this year. I think, um, this time, the

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Speaker 1: Broncos get over the hump. I think they beat the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: who I think will be good but won't be better

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Speaker 1: than what Manning has put together this year. That's a

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Speaker 1: great team and they will also. I also have Seattle

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Speaker 1: going into the NFC Title Game, but I have them

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Speaker 1: beating the Redskins. I almost had. I almost did it.

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Speaker 1: I almost put the Redskins in the Super Bowl. Greg

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Speaker 1: kind of said something snarky when I first mentioned it,

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Speaker 1: and he talked me out of it. That's not true

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Speaker 1: that I didn't know you were thinking about the redket Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's what happened. And I almost did it, and then I,

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Speaker 1: you know, I hedged my bed a little bit and

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Speaker 1: I rethought things, and I said, let me play it

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Speaker 1: a little safer. So I'm gonna have the Seahawks getting

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Speaker 1: past the Broncos, and excuse me, see how it's getting

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Speaker 1: past the Redskins. And then I do see the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: beating the Broncos super Bowl champs. I look, I look

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Speaker 1: towards the organizations and the quarterbacks and the winning this

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Speaker 1: team over the last decade by I think it was

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Speaker 1: eleven games. Is the Newing and Patriots they still have

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Speaker 1: the same Well that's part of it. I really debated

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Speaker 1: whether to go with the Patriots or the Steelers as

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Speaker 1: my a f C team. I've been thinking about it

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Speaker 1: for two months, really that those were gonna be my finalist.

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Speaker 1: I finally went with the Patriots. The Steelers, not coincidentally,

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Speaker 1: the third best team over the last decade. I still

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Speaker 1: think they have one of the best head coaches, one

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Speaker 1: of the five best quarterbacks in the league. So those

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Speaker 1: are my two final teams. Got the Patriots going to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl because I think their defense is going

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Speaker 1: to be better than it has been in five or

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Speaker 1: six years. Really like the linebackers. I think they have

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Speaker 1: a lot of depth on the defensive line. And then

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Speaker 1: in the n FC again, one of the best teams

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Speaker 1: over the last decade, Green Bay Packers, the best quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the league. I try not to outsmart myself, So

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Speaker 1: I'm going Packers over Seattle. And I think Green Bay's

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Speaker 1: defense is going to be a weapon as good as

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Speaker 1: it's been um in the last couple of years, can

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Speaker 1: be a top ten defense. And so I have them

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Speaker 1: winning the Super Bowl and beating Tom Brady and give

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Speaker 1: him a third Super Bowl loss. What happens to England

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Speaker 1: if they win another? If they lose another Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: I think all Patriots fans would agree that they would rather,

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Speaker 1: you know, never make a Super Bowl again then then

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Speaker 1: go through that. I guess that's obvious enough, but it

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Speaker 1: would just be well, that must be a nice problem,

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Speaker 1: right right. I mean, I think in their heart of hearts,

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Speaker 1: a lot of Patriots fans when they lost to the

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Speaker 1: Ravens last year, thought, well, if they're gonna lose, it's

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Speaker 1: better now than than in another Super Bowl. Alright, those

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Speaker 1: are picks. I think they all seem to be I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't call them chalk, but they they seem to be

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Speaker 1: going with what the experts are saying for the most part.

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Speaker 1: But you know, get off our backs. Um packers is

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Speaker 1: kind of not a ton of people. Most people who

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Speaker 1: are going none of us went for hackers. Just a

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Speaker 1: tremendous stretch. Um all right. By the way, a couple

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Speaker 1: of a little housekeeping. We have some really good content

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Speaker 1: on the around the League block. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: anybody's noticed, Greg, you just put out the QB Index.

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Speaker 1: That's uh West. You have your running backs running back

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Speaker 1: power ranks should be up within and well by the

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Speaker 1: time you get this podcast, it will be they will

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Speaker 1: be that. Uh Cessler. You have your ten things that

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Speaker 1: you're looking forward to. I also rank long snappers, do that,

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Speaker 1: and I have my the final Hard Knocks recap the finale.

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Speaker 1: So check all those things out. Anything else we wanna

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Speaker 1: talk about before we go today, I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: say that I enjoyed I really enjoyed your Hard Knox

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Speaker 1: recaps all year, some of the finest work we put

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Speaker 1: out on around the league. That's the only reason I

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Speaker 1: brought it up. I was fishing for the compliment, I

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Speaker 1: got it, got there's a victory. Um okay, So on Friday,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back. We have the we're gonna review Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk big, big Week one preview. Uh I'm excited

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Speaker 1: about that. And uh that's it. So thank you the mailman,

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Speaker 1: the sizzler at the boss k Ridge, behind the glass,

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Speaker 1: and of course lie all the intent until Friday. I

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Speaker 1: would venture to guess that a nap at least a

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Speaker 1: dozen times in the fowerysh