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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to our number two of the Drive here

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio. He is Matt Williamson. I am

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Speaker 2: Dale Lolly and it is time for the Fantasy Football

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Speaker 2: Focus and Matt. We finished in the money once again.

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Speaker 2: We got the fourteen points we needed out of Garrett Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Would have been fifteen if he didn't fumble. We lost

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Speaker 2: the point for a fumble there. We would have finished

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Speaker 2: fully in the money as it was, because there were

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Speaker 2: several other teams tied with us for the last spot

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Speaker 2: in the money. Were tied with us because they all

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Speaker 2: played the same lineup. We did the same lineup we

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Speaker 2: did because you're listening.

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Speaker 3: Right now, Decimal, and we appreciate you, folks. Appreciate you listen.

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Speaker 3: We all kind of boguard each other here a little bit, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, if we if so true or false, if

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Speaker 3: Wilson doesn't fumble or catches one more ball before we

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Speaker 3: all finish with we're all we're all happy sharing the

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Speaker 3: last spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's all right, Okay, we won that's all

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Speaker 2: that matters. We won. We finished with Uh, it was

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Speaker 2: tough week. We had one hundred and twenty two point

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Speaker 2: eight two points.

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Speaker 3: And you're welcome.

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Speaker 2: By the way, it should have been higher than should

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Speaker 2: have had higher than that. Brandon Cooks had to go

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Speaker 2: one catch for seven yards, and then Mike McCarthy came

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Speaker 2: out to nancudal. I'm not worried about anybody's fantasy football team.

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Speaker 2: How about winning the game?

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Speaker 3: Mike. Yeah, I hate when coach you say that, Like,

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Speaker 3: who cares about it? I mean, but we're not even

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Speaker 3: asking about our fantasy football team. We're wondering why you're

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Speaker 3: starting receiver isn't.

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Speaker 2: Doing Why your guy who had been a big part

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Speaker 2: of your offense the last three weeks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, didn't catch a ball until garnage time late. And

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Speaker 3: there's always reasons. I mean, maybe they rolled coverage, picking's

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Speaker 3: direction this way. Then it was a game.

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Speaker 2: I get to they did that for the case when

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Speaker 2: c Lamb went crazy.

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Speaker 3: And he's catching one hundred and fifty five, you're.

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Speaker 2: Throwing balls to everybody else and you don't incorporate Cooks

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Speaker 2: at all.

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Speaker 3: No, that's been Ferguson and Lamb only. Yeah, so I'm

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Speaker 3: done with them, done with him anyways. Looking at this

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Speaker 3: week's waiver wire pickups, Yes, there's a big one out.

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Speaker 2: There's a big one. There's a couple of several big

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Speaker 2: ones there. Uh, Russell Wilson's roster because of the bye

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Speaker 2: week dropped forty six percent the leagues.

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Speaker 3: Well, it looks like there's a good chance Stafford, Kyler, Dobbs,

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Speaker 3: I'm missing another one. Levis you know at least are

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Speaker 3: starting for now or likely Fields is returning. So I

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Speaker 3: think last week was Army Geddon for quarterbacks, and you

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Speaker 3: would have killed to have Ruth.

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Speaker 2: But if you're, if you're you know, in a situation

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Speaker 2: where you got somebody hurt. Russell Wilson's on pace this

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Speaker 2: year to run for four hundred and twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: Yards, I'd say he's been fine for fantasy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's been better than he's certainly better

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Speaker 2: than he was last year. He's better, he's better. He's

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Speaker 2: a better fantasy quarterback right now than he is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's quarterbacks not alone in that a

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Speaker 3: guy come in to town similar to that.

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Speaker 2: Jordan Loves a perfect example example. But Sam Howe, Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 2: these these guys who are on bad football teams that

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Speaker 2: are behind a lot that run that run.

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Speaker 3: Goal fantasy goal, absolutely are. That's a great lesson and

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Speaker 3: just so happens this week. Maybe you drafted Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 3: in the second round and you never picked up a

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Speaker 3: second one and he's off right or Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: You know, which is the way to do it, folks,

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Speaker 2: if you draft there. There's a guy in our league

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Speaker 2: who drafted Patrick Mahomes in the first round, which.

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Speaker 3: It was like the eleventh pick though, but if you

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Speaker 3: adore him, great whatever.

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Speaker 2: He drafts him in the first round, then in the

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Speaker 2: eighth round he drafts another quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Why you're never never.

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Speaker 2: Gonna You're gonna play Patrick Mahomes every week. I said

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Speaker 2: this to him last Friday. He's, well, I need him.

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Speaker 2: When Mahomes is on the by pick somebody up.

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Speaker 3: It's one week. I guess you're happy about it if

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Speaker 3: Mahomes gets hurt, but you're giving up that's your things, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: cheer Woarth receiver, that's you know, maybe you're starting tight end.

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Speaker 2: He then came around and drafted a defense or a kicker. No,

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Speaker 2: a defense in the ninth round and a defense in

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Speaker 2: the eleventh round, we go sixteen rounds.

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Speaker 3: Come on, people, don't do that. Be better than that,

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Speaker 3: don't do that.

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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield owned in forty eight percent of leagues.

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Speaker 3: Fine, I mean there's a lot of people who have

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Speaker 3: killed dev Mayfield last week. They can't run it. They

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Speaker 3: got two good receivers, they throw the ball a lot. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: they can't run it.

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Speaker 2: Will Levis rostered in forty five percent of league.

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Speaker 3: I'm interested. I mean I had big time quarterback problems

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Speaker 3: and I was not going to pick him up before

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Speaker 3: the Steeler game. Short week. Only saw one. Now I'll

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Speaker 3: take my chances with him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was not his second week A round

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Speaker 2: was not what it was the first.

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Speaker 3: I thought he played better.

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Speaker 2: Four touchdowns was not sustainable. That's not who he's going

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Speaker 2: to be.

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Speaker 3: He's the opposite example. I thought his game versus Steelers

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Speaker 3: was the better of the two NFL games, but it

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Speaker 3: was the worst of the fantasy game. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Taylor Heineke rostering in eleven percent of leagues.

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Speaker 3: I can't get excited about that offense.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they do throw more with Heineke in there,

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Speaker 2: they do.

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Speaker 3: He'd be I mean distant last of the ones. We

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Speaker 3: mentioned yea at running back well leading the wag is

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Speaker 3: Keaton Mitchell and we talked a little bit about this. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Day played eleven snaps or eleven right, But I think

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Speaker 3: if you're horribor, you're intrigued with the speed, the difference

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Speaker 3: he is than Gus Edwards. Putting him and Lamar on

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Speaker 3: the field together, he did. Look I think he's moving

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Speaker 3: past Justice Hill. But it's always hard to tell these

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Speaker 3: things and blowout. He's five nine and eighty eight pounds,

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Speaker 3: I know, and I heard people tell him.

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Speaker 2: He's not going to block anybody.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he's not going to block anybody. No, I mean

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Speaker 3: I hear talking. You know what's difference between him and

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Speaker 3: a chan? I'm like a chance a real running back.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's little too, but.

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Speaker 2: He ran between the tackles at Texas A and yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he breaks tackles and things like if he's on

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Speaker 3: the waiver wire. I am putting a claim in for Mitchell.

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Speaker 3: But the question is if you have one hundred fab dollars,

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Speaker 3: how much are you using on him? Now? You know

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Speaker 3: what I mean? Ten bucks? I mean, and then you

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Speaker 3: won't get him and you won't get it any won't

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Speaker 2: I'll be happy let somebody else get him, because he's

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Speaker 2: going to be for every game you're chasing the points.

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Speaker 2: He's not going to have another game like that. He's

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Speaker 2: not sneaking up on anybody from here on that. When

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Speaker 2: he's on the field. Now, when he's on the field,

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Speaker 2: the opposing team is going to identify him. He's getting

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Speaker 2: the football, Oh yeah, because he got the ball nine

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Speaker 2: out of eleven snaps that he was on the field.

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Speaker 3: The other thing is, so he's in a good offense.

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Speaker 3: He's a big play guy. And I bet ninety nine

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Speaker 3: percent of the rosters out there have somebody worse than

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Speaker 3: him on their problem, you know what I mean. Problem

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Speaker 3: Maybe not an eighteen league or whatever, but there's somebody

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Speaker 3: on my roster.

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Speaker 2: I can dumb, but I'm not picking him up and starting.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I would not even there. I mean,

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Speaker 3: maybe is a flex and if you're really hit hard

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Speaker 3: with buys and injuries.

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Speaker 2: Zach Sharbonnay rostered in forty five percent of the league, rather.

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Speaker 3: Shar than Mitchell. Yeah, like Charbona should not be on

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Speaker 3: any way for Wire, he's.

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Speaker 2: Getting he's outtouched Kenneth Walker. Uh, three to one in

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Speaker 2: red zone targets or goal line targets.

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Speaker 3: Last, he's getting all the third down work too.

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Speaker 2: He's getting all the third down winning work.

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Speaker 3: And what's his face? Pete Carroll keeps raving about him.

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Speaker 3: We're really impressed with this young man. I don't think

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Speaker 3: it's a knock on Walker. It's just sharbon Ay is

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Speaker 3: proving to be a good NFL back. Yeah, as we

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Speaker 3: thought he would be.

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Speaker 2: Ty J. Spears still only rostered in forty one percent

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Speaker 2: of the leagues. I just don't get it.

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Speaker 3: I think he out touched or out snapped Henry against

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Speaker 3: the Steelers, right, he played more.

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Speaker 2: It's like every week, every week, right, because again he's

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Speaker 2: the passing down back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're behind all the time if he's out

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Speaker 3: there grabbing.

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Speaker 2: Other guys. Elijah Mitchell, Tank Bigsby, Kenneth Gamewell, Game Boll

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Speaker 2: actually got some run this past week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he did. I keep waiting on Bigsby, but it's

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Speaker 3: not gonna happen. He needs an injury, and it's you

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Speaker 3: know now that could happen. They're using I mean at

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Speaker 3: other backs like that that just need an injury. I

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Speaker 3: mean at n is getting the most work of anyone

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I mean, if if that's what you're if

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Speaker 2: that's what Bigsby's going to get, if something happens the ATN. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm very intrigued.

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Speaker 3: Then. I'm not always a huge handcuff guy. But if

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Speaker 3: you do own at N.

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Speaker 2: You better handcuff.

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Speaker 3: You'd sleep better picking up. That's a good offense.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna run the football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he'd be a starter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're Trevor Lawrence. If Trevor Lawrence owner, you

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Speaker 2: want at N to get hurt because they're leaning on

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Speaker 2: the running game way.

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Speaker 3: Too much there they are like Lawrence is a much

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Speaker 3: better NFL than fantasy player. Yeah, sign close. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Leonard Fournette roster in thirty one percent of the leagues,

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Speaker 2: I can't go there. He's yeah, all right, Like you're

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Speaker 2: gonna pick a guy up. He's on the practice squad.

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Speaker 3: He's also I bet he's chubby. I just bet he's chubby.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just not known for his work ethic.

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Speaker 2: Devin Singletary's right, certain fifty one percent of the.

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Speaker 3: League's He's not for me, but he might be their

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Speaker 3: lead guy.

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Speaker 2: He played thirty four snaps I'm sorry this past week

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Speaker 2: was twenty five to twenty three.

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Speaker 3: It's not Pierce's backfield though, Oh no.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry they had twenty. He played fifty four out

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Speaker 2: of seventy two snaps this past week.

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Speaker 3: It's a ton. Yeah. If you're a back that's on

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Speaker 3: the field for fifty some snap, didn't do anything with him. No,

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's good.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he is either.

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Speaker 3: But you needed. You can't just leave on the waiver witere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I used. It's better than you know. If you're

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Speaker 2: carrying a guy like Roshawn Johnson, go pick him.

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Speaker 3: Up, yeah, or a third defense.

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Speaker 2: If Khalil, if Khalil Herbert Herbert got released in your league,

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Speaker 2: pick him up.

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Speaker 3: A I think it's like sixty forty with him in formal.

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Speaker 2: It turns into a fifty to fifty foremost played really well.

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Speaker 2: It's I think it's all Herbert and Foreman and they

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Speaker 2: Wide receiver Tank Dell rostered in forty seven percent of

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Speaker 3: He might be a wide receiver. Two he might be. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm seriously considered starting him this week.

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Speaker 2: Quinton Johnston rostered in twenty nine percent of the leagues. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And much less confident with him, but he's going to

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Speaker 2: Elijah Moore rostered in forty eight percent of leagues. I

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Speaker 3: And what happened too is when they traded People's Jones Tillman,

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Speaker 2: There's just not enough there in their passing game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's get twenty nine catches for two hundred and

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Speaker 2: The Mario Douglas owned in thirty five percent of leagues.

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Speaker 3: He's there number one for what it's worth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was five catches for fifty five yards.

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Speaker 3: Classic, that's what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: No, he's not the next coming of the boy. They

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Speaker 2: He's essentially he is one Del Robinson, maybe slightly better

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're both in terrible situations. Yeah, let's someone else.

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Speaker 2: Have we talked about this guy? On Monday? Khalil Shakir

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Speaker 3: Interested. I mean, he's gonna have some down games, but

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Speaker 2: Why Johnny Mingo rostered question?

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Speaker 3: Heiro will probably end up in the end zone three

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Speaker 2: You know, you just got to guess which you know

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Speaker 3: As for Mingo, it needs to be time for him now, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, like you're not going anywherewhere, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying theland's gonna get benched, but

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Speaker 2: Jayden Reed rostered in twenty percent of leagues.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I mean Watson's hurt. Yeah, I don't know Watson's

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Speaker 2: I still nothing. I don't want to They don't want

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Speaker 3: Other than Aaron Jones. I don't think I want anything

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Rashad Bateman rostered in twenty percent of leagues. I

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Speaker 3: It's better than it was, but it's not good. Same

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Speaker 2: Flowers had one catch last week?

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Speaker 2: Odell p one target?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you caught this too late in

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Speaker 2: Like O'Dell's not good. I don't think that's a completely

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Speaker 2: wasted fifteen million dollars. Yes, not that we're surprised by that.

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Speaker 3: No, we said that before.

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Speaker 2: Michael Wilson rostered in twelve percent of leagues and Ron

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Speaker 2: Delmore rushed in eight percent of leagues. With Kyler Murray

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Speaker 3: A little bit more so than some of the names

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Speaker 3: the ball presumably. I think Marky's brown stock jumped. Of

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Speaker 2: I think Michael Wilson could be a dude.

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Speaker 3: I think Tyler's gonna put up decent numbers. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Uh tight ends cade Oughton rostered in five percent.

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Speaker 3: There, I know you've got two touchdowns. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: His route participation is ninety six percent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I knew it was good and it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's out there a lot hunter Henry thirty eight

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Speaker 3: He looks okay, but no ceiling at all.

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Speaker 2: No, no, not at all. You're hoping for a touchdown?

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Speaker 2: What you're hoping for?

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Speaker 3: There?

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Speaker 2: Looking at this week's schedule for a streaming defenses Thursday

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Speaker 2: names Yeah, Carolina at Chicago.

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Speaker 3: The problem is all the bad teams played bad.

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Speaker 2: Are you interested in Chicago at home against Carolina?

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Speaker 3: Like I don't even think like Burns is playing. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think you got to go say no on both

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Speaker 2: Uh? Probably not on a Thursday night.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was good news, but that's too early

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Speaker 3: which is unfortunate because you'd love to play someone against Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis plays New England in Frankfurt. You're firing up Indianapolis

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's even a top five one this week.

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Speaker 2: It might be again, Yeah, they were last week.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I want New England's they'll be on

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Speaker 2: That started to really fall apart.

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Speaker 3: New England's deal'll be on the field for like thirty

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Speaker 2: Houston is at Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: No on Houston.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's against the Bucks, but I know it's frightening.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're probably in the top twelve vents all

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Speaker 2: They don't throw any interceptions, doesn't t interceptions?

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Speaker 3: Good point? Uh? New Orleans a ton of sacks either. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I guess you could do worse, Like would you rather

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Speaker 2: They're gonna blitz like crazy, you know that there.

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Speaker 3: Could be a big play. Yeah. I don't mind starting

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Speaker 2: D green Bay at Pittsburgh Steelers. You're gonna play the

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Speaker 3: Defense, I want green Bay's. Yeah, I'm much suggesting the

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Speaker 3: Steelers are gonna drop thirty on them now. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Tennessee is at Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 3: Both Yeah, yeah, I mean Tampa has put a lot

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Speaker 3: of points too, But I don't think they're scary.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either. And you get a

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Speaker 3: They a ton of plays either. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh. San Francisco at Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: Not Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: Party's been throwing the ball to the other team a

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Speaker 2: I like it, but I don't know if I want

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure on San fran I mean, if you

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Speaker 2: And they're not top five this week.

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Speaker 3: No, they're worse than usual coming off of buye.

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Speaker 2: If they haven't been good in the last three or four.

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Speaker 3: Weeks, No, they haven't, And starting teams against the Niners

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Speaker 2: No. Cleveland at Baltimore, Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: Baltimore's right number one.

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Speaker 2: You got to start Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: That's an easy one.

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Speaker 2: Do you start the Browns defense against the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: That's like the litmus test, you know, is that it's

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Speaker 3: you start them against a tough opponents.

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Speaker 2: In Baltimore on the road? I don't think I do.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's been many sacks for Baltimore taking sacks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Would you start the Browns with the Niners.

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Speaker 2: That's a good question.

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Speaker 3: They're right next to each other.

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Speaker 3: I didn't. The Browns do though, No, or the Niners.

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Speaker 2: Atlanta at Arizona.

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Speaker 3: Not the Cards ever, but Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, rusty quarterback coming back after not playing for a year.

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Speaker 3: And there's a chance he doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Detroit at the Chargers. Detroit's been in every

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: The Jets defense did a good job on them last night.

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Speaker 3: I let's say Herbert threw for like one twenty five

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Speaker 2: They never put the ball in matters a way because

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Speaker 3: How about the Chargers? Do you though? They're getting sacks

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Speaker 2: And they're good against the run better.

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Speaker 3: Than Yes, that could be a shootout, though I would

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Speaker 2: La golf going back home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't love either one.

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Speaker 2: This is actually the defensive player of the week Giants

445
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Speaker 2: and Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but like DFS, that's going to be.

447
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Speaker 2: Like, oh, the Cowboys defense might break the record for DFS.

448
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Speaker 3: How many Parsons sacks are going to Oh my god,

449
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Speaker 3: I mean they might get the eight to ten sacks.

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Speaker 2: Dallas's defense might score three times in this game. It's

451
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Speaker 2: gonna be de Vito, right, I think, I mean Barkley could.

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Speaker 3: I guess Barkley could.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I probably would start Barkley. I know what de

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Speaker 2: Vito is. Yeah, he's not an NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 3: No, I think you have to play Barkley. Of course,

456
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Speaker 3: you don't play the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Washington at Seattle, Seattle, Seattle, you get to play.

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Speaker 2: You're not playing Washington's defense.

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Speaker 3: That's an easy one.

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Speaker 2: No. Uh, do you fire up the Vegas defense again?

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Speaker 2: Jets at Raiders? Maybe a Sunday night game. By the way,

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Speaker 2: what are what things? So the game of the week

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Speaker 2: on Fox at four thirty it's brutal is Giants Cowboys?

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Speaker 3: Right? Giants Cowboys? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yuck?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And then the night game on NBC is Jets at Raiders?

468
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Speaker 2: And what in the world have have has the country

469
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Speaker 2: done to deserve this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I kind of understand that because Aaron Rodgers change it,

471
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Speaker 3: they say change it. But the Thursday Nighters Bears Panthers too,

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Speaker 3: which I guess when you make the schedule, Fields versus

473
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Speaker 3: Young might be fun. Why do we have to watch

474
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Speaker 3: all these bad games? Oh?

475
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Speaker 2: It's awful.

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Speaker 3: What game were we just talking about?

477
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Speaker 2: Those Jets at Raiders? You fire up to both.

478
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sold that the Raiders are going to

479
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Speaker 3: drop thirty on everybody with eight.

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Speaker 2: No, that was a giant specific I.

481
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Speaker 3: Don't know that. You know, the head coach all of

482
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Speaker 3: a sudden means you're going to drop thirty on everybody.

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Speaker 2: And then finally, the Monday night matchup is Denver at Buffalo.

484
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Speaker 2: Do you trust Buffalo's defense the way it's.

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Speaker 3: Been playing at their building? Yeah, Okay, it's not great.

486
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Speaker 2: It's not great. There are probably eight or nine different

487
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Speaker 2: options here that I would play.

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Speaker 3: Ahead of them. Yeah. Yeah. Sean Payton coming off of bye,

489
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Speaker 3: I think too, you know, scheming it up against a

490
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Speaker 3: questionable group right now? Yeah, yeah, So you would think

491
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Speaker 3: the Bills pass rusher would be better. I mean, like

492
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Speaker 3: Von Millers, you have a sack this year.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he does.

494
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Speaker 3: He doesn't play very much. No, no, no, you think

495
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Speaker 3: I know the Bills are gonna put points.

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Speaker 2: So some interesting streamers, there's some there's some slam dunk streamers,

497
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Speaker 2: and you know they're not streamers. They are already in.

498
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Speaker 3: Your league, Dallas.

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Speaker 2: That's the problem. Yeah, the streamers you're probably looking at.

500
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Speaker 3: But the ones that are in every league aren't great either, though,

501
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Speaker 3: that's a great one.

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis is a good one.

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Speaker 3: Who's playing the Cardinals again?

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Speaker 2: Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: I don't love their d.

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Speaker 2: But Grady Jarrett's out. I don't know if I want

507
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Speaker 2: to play them. Maybe the Chargers against the Lions.

508
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Speaker 3: We were just talking about in the waiver wire segment though.

509
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Speaker 3: There was two Cardinal receivers as well as McBride from

510
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Speaker 3: a year ago.

511
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Speaker 2: That's once Kyler gets his legs.

512
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Speaker 3: Back owners back this week. And I don't think he

513
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Speaker 3: is really.

514
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 2: They haven't activated him.

515
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 3: Okay, but their offense might be acceptable.

516
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Seattle's a strong play this week.

517
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 3: A real strong player. Yeah yeah, yeah, so that's true too.

518
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 3: I like Seattle.

519
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you're looking. And they just got embarrassed.

520
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Speaker 3: Less there at home, right. Yeah, yeah, that's a real

521
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Speaker 3: good one.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. That's Washington going to cross country too.

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Speaker 3: I forget where I read it, but they were. I

524
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Speaker 3: think their upcoming schedule is good too, Like I think

525
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Speaker 3: you can pick them up and use them the next

526
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Speaker 3: three or four weeks pretty well.

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Speaker 2: Probably, So anyway, we're gonna get to another break. He

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Speaker 2: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lallie. That was the

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Speaker 2: it's Tuesday. That means it's Power rankings day, all right.

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Speaker 2: I will take a look here at Eric ed Holmes

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Speaker 2: power rankings on NFL dot com.

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Speaker 3: And uh, thirty two to one. Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Would you consider if you were doing power rankings right now,

542
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Speaker 2: would you consider the quarterback situations of some of these teams?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I mean like the Giants would be thirty

544
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Speaker 3: two for me. Has to be based it off the

545
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Speaker 3: veto and they don't want to how they play. Yeah,

546
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Speaker 3: I mean they've they've earned it.

547
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Speaker 2: They're not thirty two on this list.

548
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Speaker 3: Would you put the account Kyler though, that's a good question,

549
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Speaker 3: you know, like the accounts now because he hasn't played yet. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's what I mean. Yeah, how about Stafford, like where

551
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 3: the Rams are so different?

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Speaker 2: I mean you have with yeah, without I don't think

553
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Speaker 2: you bang them completely because he's going to be back.

554
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Speaker 3: You know, he's back. Yeah, they're like, who do you

555
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Speaker 3: count as the Bears quarterback?

556
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Speaker 2: I mean you have to look at this. Fields is

557
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Speaker 2: going to be back at some point. But these other

558
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 2: teams that have lost, like Daniel Jones is out for

559
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Speaker 2: the rest.

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Speaker 3: Of the year, right right, right, right right, And these

561
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Speaker 3: aren't projections though. It's how good you are right right now,

562
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Speaker 3: you know. And there's a couple there's a lot of

563
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Speaker 3: them that are in flux with who's gonna be the quarterback?

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Speaker 2: So at thirty thirty two holding steady are the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think they'll go up. They were atrocious so

566
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Speaker 3: lest they've earned it. Yeah, I mean the kids hard

567
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Speaker 3: to fight them. They right now have the first overall pick.

568
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Speaker 3: I mean they've been really bad.

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Speaker 2: At thirty one the Carolina Panthers.

570
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Speaker 3: Arizona also doesn't have very many good players.

571
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 2: No, there's that.

572
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 3: I mean, at least the Giants have like Thomas and

573
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Speaker 3: Lawrence and couple dudes. Yeah, right right.

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Speaker 2: Thirty one is the Panthers holding steady? Thirty are the

575
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Speaker 2: Giants holding steady?

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Speaker 3: I mean those are the three I think that are

577
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Speaker 3: really have a case.

578
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Speaker 2: Well, there's a fourth team here at twenty nine down

579
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Speaker 2: a spot, the Patriots.

580
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Speaker 3: I think the Patriots beat those other teams.

581
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Speaker 2: They have the worst record in the AFC.

582
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they're bad. I just I think they're

583
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Speaker 3: not Giants bad.

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick is not gonna he will. Bill Belichick will

585
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Speaker 2: not be the head coach of the New England Patriots

586
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: True or false, I'm gonna say true. I mean, this

588
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 3: isn't gonna get better this year. No, I mean that, No,

589
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 3: it's not.

590
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: And this is what he built.

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Speaker 3: He's the GM. The thing is, they have a ton

592
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Speaker 3: of cap space, and what if they have a top

593
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Speaker 3: five pick.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing though, if you're if you're Robert Kraft,

595
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Speaker 2: do you trust Bill Belichick the GM to get it

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Speaker 2: right because he dot this?

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Speaker 3: No, No I don't. But so that's a massive seismic decision.

598
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 2: Now you go to Belichick and you say, Bill, we

599
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Speaker 2: want I'm gonna hire somebody else to be in charge

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Speaker 2: of the draft and player personnel, and Belichick says, I

601
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Speaker 2: don't think I know. I don't want that.

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Speaker 3: I think all those conversations, I think that I.

603
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Speaker 2: Think I deserve Morris. I don't think he's the coach.

604
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Speaker 2: I think I lean towards No.

605
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Speaker 3: But if I were him, I'd be interested in coming back,

606
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Speaker 3: if I had Drake made in front of me and

607
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Speaker 3: a ton of cap space. But it's not your decision.

608
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 2: It's not your decision. And all those years of getting

609
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,239
Speaker 2: guys on the cheap because what we want to come

610
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 2: there with and play with Tom bradycause we'll have the

611
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Speaker 2: chance to win. Nobody wants to play in New England. No,

612
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Speaker 2: it's the same reason the players revolted against Josh McDaniels,

613
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Speaker 2: right right, If it's not fun to play the game

614
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Speaker 2: to win?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a terrible situation.

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Speaker 2: At twenty eight up a spot the Chicago.

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Speaker 3: Bears, Okay, I'd take them over all the ones you've mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Twenty seven down six spots the Rams.

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Speaker 3: As currently constructed on the if they had to play

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Speaker 3: a game on the number seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, scored three points last week against a bad Green

622
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Speaker 2: Bay team. Yeah, they were hideous, And folks, these Packers

623
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Speaker 2: are bad. They are bad at twenty six up a

624
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Speaker 2: spot because they beat the Patriots or the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 2: They're four and five somehow, that foreign amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're four and five. Their offense isn't terrible.

627
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 2: At twenty five up a spot, the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: They stop taking obscene in money they did. Yes, there's

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Speaker 3: only three less, only three. That tells you a lot

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Speaker 3: about the Patriots too. They okay, who was a twenty.

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Speaker 2: Five up a spot are the Raiders?

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00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? They should be treading the right direction. They also

633
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 3: have more than two wins.

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00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 2: They're four and five at twenty four Denver? Is Denver

635
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Speaker 2: better than the Raiders? The Denver's three and five right now.

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00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 3: Last time we saw him, they beat the Chiefs. I

637
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 3: mean that's the last thing we've seen of them. I

638
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 3: don't think they're good.

639
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: I don't think they are either.

640
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Speaker 3: I would say the Raiders offense, say O'Connell, though, Yeah,

641
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 3: they're better than the Raiders. I mean, Wilson's a lot

642
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 3: better than O'Connell, right, yeah, I guess yeah, I got

643
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 3: part is.

644
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 2: At twenty three up two spots the Packers.

645
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 3: I'm glad they only bump them too.

646
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: I mean that was like you jam the Rams down

647
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 2: six spots and you move the pack the packers up

648
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: two based off not win.

649
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 3: But the Rams will stay I mean like next week

650
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 3: at this time, the Rams won't move probably if so,

651
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: it's a spot or two because they don't play. And

652
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 3: then if Stafford plays two weeks from now, they'll.

653
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: Be back back ahead.

654
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: They'll move up six spots.

655
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,719
Speaker 2: Right, that's twenty two holding steady.

656
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 3: The Titans, Yeah, they're better than everyone we've mentioned though.

657
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: At twenty one, down one spot. Tampa Bay Okay, dropping fat.

658
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: They were in the top ten at one point.

659
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 3: You said they're in a five game losing screen.

660
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: Right, they were three and another they're now three and five.

661
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, they're not great either.

662
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 2: At twenty down three spots the Falcons.

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00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 3: Real quick, Rams and Bucks. We've lumped them together all

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Speaker 3: offseason because they both recently won a Super Bowl. They

665
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Speaker 3: have no middle class or depth because they went this

666
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: is the time, ye they.

667
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Speaker 2: Went for it. Now, they're going to be bad for

668
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Speaker 2: the next five years, if not longer.

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Speaker 3: As the season goes on, that stuff gets exposed though,

670
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Speaker 3: you know, like they don't have the depth.

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Speaker 2: Atlanta down three spots at twenty Indianapolis up four spots

672
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Speaker 2: to nineteen.

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Speaker 3: They're definitely the best team yet, I mean they're better

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Speaker 3: in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, eighteen down five spots because they had the Eric

676
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: at Hoolme had them way too high before and he's

677
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Speaker 2: moved them back down again.

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Speaker 3: Are they Jets enough?

679
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: It's not low enough. They're bad. They're worse than cults.

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00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 3: Are way better than that. Yeah. Okay. Are the Jets

681
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 3: definitely better than the Patriots?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 3: I mean they are, but they might be in that neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: I mean their defense will keep them in a game

686
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: against the page. The Patriots is constructive right now, stink.

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Speaker 3: I mean the Patriots would kill for Garrett Wilson. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

688
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Speaker 3: And I'm not sure Wilson and mac Jones are that

689
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 3: much different.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At seventeen up two spots are the Vikings.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm fine with that. Yeah, I mean they're better

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Speaker 3: than Jets. Vikings versus Cults would be a conversation for me.

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Speaker 2: At sixteen up two spots are the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Yes, because the d I didn't think i'd say that.

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00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: At fifteen up one spot are the Texans.

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Speaker 3: I still think Houston's better than that. The Chargers are

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Speaker 3: better than Houston.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it'll play out of Yeah at fourteen

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00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: up a spot the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure people out there, like, didn't

703
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: you watch Texans Steelers five weeks ago.

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00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: That day and that in that field?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And if they played, if they played one hundred times,

707
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: the Steelers probably win sixty five of them.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It might be fifty to fifty, it.

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Speaker 2: Might be fifty. Where's the game at what most?

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Speaker 3: If they played one hundred times, I think that outcome

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Speaker 3: would be in the two percent outlier. Yeah, you know

712
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Thirteen up a spot the Saints, they'd be like five

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Speaker 2: spots lower for me.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they're better than the Colts, let

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Speaker 3: alone the Chargers, Texans Steelers.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I could put any NFC team

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Speaker 2: with a like record or a worse record ahead of

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Speaker 2: any of the AFC teams that have better records. These

720
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Speaker 2: mediocre Like we went through the the strength of victory

721
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Speaker 2: the other day, Saints strength of victory is awful.

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Speaker 3: They played these scheduling league. Yeah, yeah, they're not a

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Speaker 3: good football No, they would be much lower for me,

724
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Speaker 3: like five or six spots.

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Speaker 2: At least at twelve down two spots, the Seahawks.

726
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Speaker 3: Bad taste in your mouth, but I think they'll be fine.

727
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: At eleven down two spots the Bills.

728
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Speaker 3: Wow, pretty gutsy to put on that.

729
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: Dropping out of the top. Well, they're five and four,

730
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: they're two and three in their last their last five games.

731
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't think there's a lot of

732
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Speaker 3: shame in losing to that Bengals team, but that's where

733
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Speaker 3: they belong right now. The defense is bad.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I would bump this team ahead

735
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Speaker 2: of them though. At at ten up two spots.

736
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Speaker 3: Cleveland, Oh no, the Bills are better than the Bills.

737
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: Are better than the Browns.

738
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, who was right behind the Bills?

739
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Speaker 2: Seattle.

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00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 3: Seattle's better than the Browns too. Yeah.

741
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: They just played a couple of weeks ago in Seattle. Yeah,

742
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: smacked them around, not spacked around, but they won the game.

743
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Speaker 2: At nine up two spots, Cincinnati.

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00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: I would have them like it two for how they're

745
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: playing right now.

746
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Speaker 2: I would have them ahead of this next team because

747
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: at eight down two spots is Dallas.

748
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 3: They're better in Dallas. They're better than a lot of

749
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Speaker 3: teams right now.

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Speaker 2: I would have Cincinnati ahead of Miami too.

751
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I might have him ahead of the Niners.

752
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: At seven up, one spot are the Niners even though

753
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: they were off this.

754
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: Week, but they're in a three game losing three game losers.

755
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: I think they'll get it right.

756
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: At six down, three spots is Miami.

757
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 3: Here's one for you, Dallas or Miami.

758
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: They're like the same team.

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00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 3: I know they would I would take.

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00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: I would take Dallas because their defense is better. Miami's

761
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: defense does nothing for me.

762
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: No, I would too, but they would definitely be behind

763
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Speaker 3: sincey the Niners, I mean, since he's hard to play.

764
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Speaker 2: I do wonder if Miami in that game on Sunday

765
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: showed people a way to beat the Chiefs, even though

766
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: they didn't get it done. Just just blanket Kelsey, put

767
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: everybody else one on one, and if they beat you,

768
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Speaker 2: so be it. But we're gonna put three guys on Kelsey.

769
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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe, and just I mean I would give it

770
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Speaker 3: a shot, going.

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Speaker 2: For it because he can't get off of it anymore.

772
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Speaker 3: No, and those other receivers are all struggling a bunch

773
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Speaker 3: of jacks. Yeah, I mean, even Mahomes can't make them better.

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00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially if you have a pass rush to go

775
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Speaker 2: with it, which Miami couldn't. They couldn't do.

776
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: They're not running the ball well enough, yeah, to make

777
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: you pay for some stuff.

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Speaker 2: So it's six down three spots is Miami. Five up

779
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: two spots is Detroit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm fine with that. I still think

781
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: Cinci and the Niners are ahead of Detroit, but okay.

782
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: At four up one spot is Jacksonville five.

783
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Speaker 3: Game winning streak. They're in this neighborhood for sure. We

784
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 3: can do a nitpick if they're one spot too low

785
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 3: or too high, but they're in this neighborhood.

786
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: Three up one spot is Kansas City.

787
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, on neutral field right now, I'd still take the

788
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: Bengals over the Chiefs, but I mean they deserve their respect. Yeah,

789
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 3: they're a very good team.

790
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: At two holding steady is Baltimore and one is Philadelphia.

791
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: I agree with top two. Okay, I guess I probably

792
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 3: have Kansas. I think out of the Bengals, three Chiefs four.

793
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 2: So here's the thing about what the Steelers have done

794
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: thus far this season. They beat the Ravens, who are

795
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: number two.

796
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 3: Correct.

797
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: They lost to the Jags, who are number four. They

798
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: lost to the Niners, who are number seven. They beat

799
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: the Cowboys who are number I'm sorry. The Browns, I'm sorry,

800
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: we are number ten. They let's see here, lost of

801
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 2: the Texans, who are number fifteen.

802
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 3: They're all good teams.

803
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: These are all good teams, like you know, when you

804
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: start looking at the grand scheme of things. Now, they've

805
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: got a couple of wins against some bad teas, but

806
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: they've also got a couple wins against teams that are

807
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: considered top ten teams.

808
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, there's some serious football teams.

809
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: And they've played four games against the top ten and

810
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: they're two and two in those games.

811
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 3: And the version of the Niners they played way better

812
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 3: is the best team in the league. Yeah. Yeah, So

813
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 3: based off EPA, only the Colts, Titans, and Cardinals have

814
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: faced a more difficult slate of defenses than the Steelers. Yeah,

815
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: that adds up. I mean, Ravens are now phenomenal, you know, Niners, Brown.

816
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: I think if you look back at it, and this

817
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: was a few weeks ago, Pickett had thrown for more

818
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: yards against Cleveland than anybody else had. Picket had thrown

819
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: for more yards against Baltimore than anybody else had like

820
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 2: h and Pickett. I think at that point this was

821
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 2: like three week five or whatever, had thrown for more

822
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: yards against San Francisco than anybody else.

823
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: Interesting, and he's not exactly Dan Fouts. Yeah, in terms

824
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 3: of production.

825
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: But they were just destroying these other passing games.

826
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting, No, that played a lot like Yeah, they've

827
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 3: played four of the top ten teams and they're two

828
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: and two against those teams and they're halfway through the

829
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: season now a lot more.

830
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: This isn't guessing who's who are these top teams? Know

831
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: who your top teams? This is what it is.

832
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, their schedule's been tough.

833
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not quite as tough the rest of the way. No,

834
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: although you do now have to play the Bengals twice and.

835
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: Say you'd have loved to play the Bengals in week two,

836
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: right as suppose I have two of them looming. Yeah,

837
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 3: you know, but you know that's the whay it goes.

838
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: Anyways, we're gonna get to another break. He is Matt Williamson.

839
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Speaker 2: I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the drive. You're

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio. That was Eric Manholmes NFL Power

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Speaker 2: Rankings on NFL dot Com. We'll be back to finish

842
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Speaker 2: up the show right after this.

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844
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845
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,839
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846
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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson

848
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: and Matt we were talking about this before the show

849
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: today and people often ask is it the coach or

850
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: is it the quarterback?

851
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 3: It's an age old question. It's an age old question,

852
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: answerable one.

853
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: We're finding some things out about Mike Tomlin though that

854
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: it hasn't mattered. It hasn't mattered.

855
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 3: I mean he's gone through a lot of different quarterbacks,

856
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 3: including different versions of Ben right, you know, I mean

857
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: end of your career. Ben is not the one that

858
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 3: Tomlin inherited. No, that's that's undeniable.

859
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 2: So Bill Belichick's record, I'm just, I just they're the

860
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Speaker 2: most glare. I just I just googled this. Yeah, with

861
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Speaker 2: Tom Brady two forty nine and seventy five, without him

862
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 2: now eighty one and ninety four, he has more losses

863
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: without Brady than he did.

864
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 3: With Wow, that's stunning. I mean, I didn't think it

865
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: was to that point. How many years is it?

866
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Speaker 2: Ben, Well, you're taking his Cleveland Day as well. Yeah. Yeah,

867
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: But and that includes like a year like Matt Castle

868
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 2: started for him and he went.

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Speaker 3: Eleven and five the year the day a winning record that.

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Speaker 2: I had a winning record that year, so it's.

871
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they had a good team obviously. Yeah, there's I.

872
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: Mean twenty six and thirty now since Brady left after

873
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 2: and there's not many more wins coming this year.

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00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: So that's the most glaring example. But I also think

875
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: Sean Payton's.

876
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: Sean Payton's another example, right when he had Drew Brees.

877
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 2: Sean Payton's a genius, and I love it that Drew

878
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 2: Brees and Sean Payton doesn't know what he's doing.

879
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 3: If I look at Pete Carroll and say, that's a

880
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 3: lot like Commlin.

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00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, because there are examples of both.

882
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like end of Seahawks, Wilson was not

883
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 3: one of the best players in the league, right, I mean,

884
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 3: they got out at a great time. But I have

885
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 3: a problem with the Belichick Brady thing though, I mean

886
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 3: the people that say McDaniel all the disciples that lose, well,

887
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 3: they lose because Brady's there, or Belichick's overrated because he

888
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: has the best quarterback ever. I'm not willing to give

889
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Speaker 3: Brady that much credit. I mean, like, he might be

890
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 3: the best football player that ever lived, but he doesn't

891
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: win more than a handful of rings anywhere he went.

892
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Speaker 3: I mean, like, he wouldn't just elevate the Browns, the

893
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 3: team that I was a part of, we would not

894
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Speaker 3: have been super Bowl champs with Tom Brady.

895
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Speaker 2: He might have never gotten on the field for the Browns.

896
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Speaker 2: They might have never gotten to that situation.

897
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Speaker 3: Or even if he did in his prime, he got

898
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Speaker 3: traded to the worst team in the world.

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's one of the things that good. It's

900
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: one of like early Tom Brady was not the engine.

901
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: Of course, he was like pick it now. I mean,

902
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 3: I mean, like, yeah, so there's there.

903
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: So it took him four or five years to become

904
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 2: that guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And even if he was that guy and the

906
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 3: worst team in the league gave up nothing for him,

907
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 3: We'll give you a seventh round pick for Brady and Belichick.

908
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 3: The GM says, okay, and they do it. The worst

909
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: team in the league doesn't win the.

910
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl that year, right, he picked his spot with

911
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: Tampa perfectly. Yeah, yeah, he said, okay, that that's a

912
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: good defense. They've got weapons. They just need somebody to

913
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: come in and not throw or turn the ball over

914
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: forty times like Jamis Winz and didn't his last year there.

915
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Speaker 2: Don't do that. Cut the turnovers down to like ten,

916
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 2: and we'll be okay and get.

917
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Speaker 3: Me Gronk and ab and a couple other nice shiny

918
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: things and you know, right, But Sando did this study

919
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: not long ago, and he looked at all those quarterbacks

920
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: of that era, and by far, Rivers had the worst

921
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Speaker 3: support from defense and special teams and Brady had the best.

922
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: That matters, It matters, you know.

923
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Speaker 3: What I mean, Like, maybe Rivers doesn't win. What's Brady

924
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 3: have six rings with the Patriots or is it five

925
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Speaker 3: with the Patriots, six with the Patriots and a seventh

926
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Speaker 3: with Tampa. I bet Rivers wins four with Belichick, you

927
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Speaker 3: know what I mean? Or Ben wins five. It doesn't

928
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Speaker 3: mean Brady. I'm not cutting on Brady at all. And

929
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Speaker 3: I bet Patricia sure would have done better with Brady

930
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: and Detroit or whatever. But I don't I can't jump

931
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Speaker 3: on Belichick's a bad coach or overrated because of what's

932
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Speaker 3: happened the last couple of years. I'm just not there

933
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Speaker 3: in terms of I mean, his defenses were unbelievable for

934
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Speaker 3: twenty years.

935
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Speaker 2: I do think Belichick the GM, I think apart is awful, awful.

936
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Speaker 2: Like if we were ranking gms in the league right now,

937
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 2: he's in the bottom ten. Some of the money that

938
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 2: they've spent on on bad things, that's again. So but

939
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: to bring this back around to the Steelers, the.

940
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Speaker 3: Second round pick for Mohammed Sanu, Yeah, you know that

941
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 3: one's like, well, Bill Smart.

942
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Speaker 2: But Belichick, Oh, he's going to He's going to Belichick

943
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: must see something.

944
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, all of us in the media kind of look

945
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Speaker 3: at each other funny.

946
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Speaker 2: Like you got a second pick from maybe they got

947
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: lucky with Wes Welker. You know, it's right, you know

948
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Speaker 2: some of the things that happened.

949
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Speaker 3: I mean, they give a fifth round pick for Randy

950
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: Moss that way.

951
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 2: But it comes into play this week with the Steelers

952
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: playing the Packers. Yea, who they get they were exam Yeah,

953
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 2: we're done with Aaron Rodgers. We're going to move on,

954
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: moving on from a A great quarterback is not easy.

955
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Speaker 3: So how good Where would the Packers beating the power

956
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: ranks with Rogers?

957
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Speaker 2: With the healthy Aaron Rodgers. I mean, they're three and

958
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Speaker 2: five right now, they're probably five and three, I would say.

959
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 3: At least at least, and they've also played a very

960
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 3: easy schedule thus far. If he's the normal Aaron Rodgers

961
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Speaker 3: or what we thought he was going to be for

962
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Speaker 3: the Jets, I bet they win at least six games.

963
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Speaker 2: I mean, looking here at there, what's happened for them

964
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Speaker 2: this year? So they lost to this where we at here?

965
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Speaker 2: They beat the Bears in Week one thirty eight twenty,

966
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Speaker 2: lost to the Falcons twenty five to twenty four. In

967
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 2: Week two, lost to the They beat the Saints in

968
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Speaker 2: Week three eighteen seventeen.

969
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 3: They stone played a good team.

970
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: Lost to the Lions thirty four to twenty. Lost to

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Speaker 2: the Raiders seventeen thirteen. I guarantee they don't lose that

972
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Speaker 2: game to the Raiders with Aaron Rodgers a quarterback.

973
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Speaker 3: And maybe they beat the Lion. I mean I don't know,

974
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Speaker 3: maybe that's too strong.

975
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: Lost to the Broncos nineteen seventeen. I guarantee that doesn't happen.

976
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Speaker 2: Lost to the Vikings twenty four to ten. That was

977
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Speaker 2: still Kirk Cousins there, and then beat the Rams twenty

978
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Speaker 2: to three.

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Speaker 3: I didn't go through their schedule. I just did.

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Speaker 2: They might be five and they might be six and two.

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Speaker 3: They played one good team, the Lions. I mean, we

982
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Speaker 3: just did the power ranks for s Fields. They got

983
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Speaker 3: Houston a.

984
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Speaker 2: Really bad schedule. Yeah, it's so bad, and they're three

985
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Speaker 2: and five.

986
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Speaker 3: They're three and five. Yeah, and without Stafford too. I

987
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Speaker 3: mean the Lions are the only good team they've played. Yeah,

988
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 3: I mean I knew the EPA stuff, but they would.

989
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 2: Certainly be better with the healthy Aaron Rodgers.

990
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 3: They might be a seven win team. Yeah. I mean

991
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 3: they're beating the Raiders in Denver. Yeah.

992
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: That's what the great quarterback does for your team. And

993
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 2: so the question again is asked, is it the coach

994
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 2: or is it the quarterback? It's always about the Jimmys

995
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: and Joe's.

996
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: Both are super, super important. And there's no doubt that

997
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: the Landry Staubach, Noel Bradshaw, Walsh, Montana Belichick, Brady, I mean.

998
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Speaker 2: When those marriages happened, then then.

999
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 3: Happened, Yeah, right, Mahomes and read you know. But it's

1000
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Speaker 3: still like one or the other. Yeah, I'll take Mahomes.

1001
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Speaker 2: I'll take the I'll take the Jimmy's and Joe's over

1002
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Speaker 2: the extras and O's.

1003
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Speaker 3: So if there's a thirty third franchise and the owner

1004
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 3: is said, you can have Andy Reid or Pat Mahomes,

1005
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Speaker 3: I'm taking Pat Mahomes times a thousand, and he's awesome,

1006
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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nothing against Andy Reid.

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Speaker 3: He's awesome.

1009
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Speaker 2: But there are you know, five or six other coaches

1010
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Speaker 2: out there that I could get.

1011
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet Lafleur would do well with Mahomes.

1012
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Tomm would do great with with Mahomes. You know,

1013
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll will do great with Mahomes, would do great

1014
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: with Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: But Lafleur to me, might be showing that he's an

1016
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 3: average starting coach. They're average the fifteenth, the sixteenth, you

1017
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Speaker 3: know where.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Tom he can't elevate.

1019
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Speaker 3: Right. If they have Mahomes, they might be undefeated, right,

1020
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Speaker 3: they might be unfeed with Rogers. That's a garbage schedule.

1021
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Speaker 2: That's really bad.

1022
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Speaker 3: I mean, probably lose the Lions. Other than that, they

1023
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Speaker 3: should be favored in every one of those games with

1024
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Speaker 3: Rogers or Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so that's what we'll see this weekend. That's

1026
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Speaker 2: gonna do it for the show today, Matt. That's a

1027
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Speaker 2: little food for thought for people out there. But anyways,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna we'll be back again tomorrow. Of course we

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Speaker 2: have a regular scheduled.

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Speaker 3: Show the Floor of One with Duck Hodges.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say zero go there you go. Anyways, that's

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Speaker 2: going to do for the show today. So for my

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Speaker 2: partner Matt Williamson, for Brian Lamartine here on site keeping

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Speaker 2: us on the air, I'm Dale Lolly. We thank you

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