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Speaker 1: Oh, it is Wednesday. It is thanks Giving Eve. Joel Klatt,

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Speaker 1: Greg Cosell, Blazing five. Yeah, Thanksgiving, Blazing five. In one hour,

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Speaker 1: we are live, little chilly today in Chicago, perfect winter

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Speaker 1: football weather. It is the Herd wherever you may be

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Speaker 1: and however you may be listening. So tomorrow Lion's host

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Speaker 1: of packers that'll make the Blazing five Kansas City at

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Speaker 1: Dallas may get forty five million viewers. That's at four

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Speaker 1: thirty Eastern. And I was thinking about this this morning. Actually,

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Speaker 1: it's the first time in a long time that I'd

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Speaker 1: rather talk about the Cowboys on field product. It's actually underrated.

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Speaker 1: In previous years, we talked about Mike McCarthy's job security,

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Speaker 1: Micah Parsons podcast, Dak's contract, No Cowboys offense number one

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. The on field product it's good. Devonte

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Speaker 1: Williams top ten running back, Dak PFF's number two quarterback,

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Speaker 1: two star receivers, one of the top third down offenses.

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Speaker 1: The offensive line is young, getting better, has surrendered. The

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Speaker 1: fourth viewis sacks one of the better three and out teams,

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Speaker 1: fifth Sewest in the league. Good thing about that, And

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Speaker 1: with a new kickoff rule and the field goal range

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Speaker 1: of Brandon Aubrey, they're like two twelve yard plays from points.

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Speaker 1: They're scoring on almost half of their drives. Add this

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Speaker 1: to the best two minute offense in the league. Add this,

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Speaker 1: knew the best quarterback in the league against the Blitz.

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Speaker 1: It's not Matt Stafford. It's not Josh Allen, it's dot

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. It's not Jared Goff, it's not Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: It's Dak Prescott. Great against the Blitz. Top three in

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Speaker 1: pressures running the ball, two star receivers, best field goal

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Speaker 1: kicker in the sport. Made aggressive trades to solve their defense.

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Speaker 1: Their defense was the second worst in the league. Then

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Speaker 1: they made those Kenny Clark Quinn Williams deals. You know,

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Speaker 1: the last two weeks, it's the seventh best defense. And

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Speaker 1: go ask Philadelphia. You can't run on them. For years,

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Speaker 1: I was a cowboy critic, and there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: people in my business that you know, they'll hammer Dallas

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Speaker 1: because they know it gets clicks. I hammerd Dallas because

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Speaker 1: I thought they were poorly run. But you can't hammer

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Speaker 1: them now, and they may not beat Kansas City tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: For two first round picks, aggressive trades. Number one offense

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Speaker 1: top ten run game, offensive line, not great in pass protection,

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Speaker 1: but emerging is a much better run offensive line. I know.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think shot number is gonna work. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was a week week higher. It's the best I've

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Speaker 1: seen dak in a long time. So Kansas City probably

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Speaker 1: the better team. Home teams do very well on Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: either way, I think Dallas against Kansas City tomorrow it's

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Speaker 1: a real game, and I would not have said that

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Speaker 1: a year ago. Right, last five years, how many times

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Dallas and you think you know Dallas could

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Speaker 1: win this thing. Well, Dallas's offense right now is a

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Speaker 1: lot better than Kansas City's, and it's not particularly close.

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Speaker 1: Here's DAK on facing the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: We got to win every game at this point, and

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Speaker 3: the Philly game doesn't mean anything right now. Nothing that's

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Speaker 3: put us in the position to be must win games.

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Speaker 3: We've got the guys, we've got the plan, we've got

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Speaker 1: So, speaking of quarterback, the Bears toughest game of the

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Speaker 1: year at Philadelphia Eagles off a loss, will be in

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Speaker 1: a surly mood. This is something I've given a lot

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of criticism from people on the internet

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Speaker 1: that don't like the fact that, like Caleb Williams is

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Speaker 1: completing like fifty nine and a half percent of his throws.

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Speaker 1: And this is why I give this so much thought,

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Speaker 1: and this is my favorite part about sports, the constant changes.

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Speaker 1: I talked about this the other day that college basketball

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Speaker 1: What's happening with the NFL is that mobility is no

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Speaker 1: young offensive coaches are using motion double what they did

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying you can run your way to

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Speaker 1: win games in the playoffs. But it's like how I

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Speaker 1: But the only thing in twenty twenty five guaranteed about

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Speaker 1: with massive college debt. AI the phone, Google. There is

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Speaker 1: so much information out there now that you don't have

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Speaker 1: to sit through a college lecture and pay seventy four

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Speaker 1: the place to go, but it's not the be all,

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Speaker 1: end all. And that's how I look about Caleb's completion percentage. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: three years? Zero playoff wins, the days of Drew Brees,

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Speaker 1: No throw it downfield, a lot of motion, get out

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Speaker 1: I understand that it matters to some degree. But we

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Speaker 1: that I remember when I was younger, high school and

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Speaker 1: college memorization was a really cool thing. I'd memorize the

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Speaker 1: Google happened. Sorry, he'd take me thirty seconds. I'll find

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Speaker 1: the answer. So John Elway, he was ahead of the curve.

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Speaker 1: He won two Super Bowls. In both playoff runs, he

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Speaker 1: completed fifty five percent of his throws. So RG three

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Speaker 4: Accuracy is a myth, all right. Accuracy to me is

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Speaker 4: think his sixty one percent completion percentage comes from is

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Speaker 4: more so the fact that he is willing to take

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Speaker 4: more chances to have big plays occur, which drives down

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Speaker 4: think that's who Caleb Williams is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he has. Listen, it's great that

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Speaker 1: Williams and nobody's disagreeing with that. But again, mobility is

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Speaker 1: it's not a luxury, it is a requirement. I mean

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff, that is that is old now and he's

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Speaker 1: still in the prime of his career. That's old school.

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Speaker 1: He didn't move. I mean Stafford really old school, all right,

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Speaker 1: j Mack. We got a lot of stuff today, college

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Speaker 1: football playoffs out, b Yu's not happy, Miami's really mad.

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Speaker 1: Belichick rumors, they're interesting, Belichick, I do, but I do

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Speaker 1: not buy the Belichick stuff at all at all, And

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Speaker 1: I'll explain why. But you went to the Lakers Clippers

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Speaker 5: Luca was phenomenal, you know, I think he had twenty

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Speaker 5: four points in the first quarter. He really hates the Clippers, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: does not like them, dating back to his days in Dallas.

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Speaker 5: Who's talking trash to them a lot. I noticed Kawhi Leonard.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if anybody caught this. He like didn't

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Speaker 5: he's talking about, well, we need more talent.

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Speaker 6: We got to get the.

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Speaker 5: Right rotations in Clippers seemed to be falling apart at

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Speaker 5: the scenes. Couldn't happen to a nicer group of guys.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 6: I do know some guys on the coaching staff.

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Speaker 5: I don't want them to lose their jobs, but yeah,

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Speaker 5: Kawhi James Harden feels like it's over.

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Speaker 1: College football's newest playoff picture came out last night. People

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Speaker 1: get worked up. Miami doesn't like it that they beat

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame early in the year, and now they trail

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I do think Notre Dame today would beat Miami,

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Speaker 1: screen for our television audience. Notre Dame's at nine, Miami

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Speaker 1: is at twelve. Again, it's very close. Miami should probably

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Speaker 1: beat pitt this weekend, which Notre Dame just hammered by

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Speaker 1: So before they squawk too much, but here is a

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Speaker 1: memo to college football fans. You got to stop holding

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Speaker 1: on In nineteen eighty eight. College football is now about

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Speaker 1: forty percent NFL players get paid millions. There's free agency,

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Speaker 1: it's called the portal and headheads important, but not as important.

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Speaker 1: College football the last three years has morphed into about

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Speaker 1: for that, but it's now a vanity drug for hair retention. Okay,

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Speaker 1: college football is, you know, mostly still college football but

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Speaker 1: not entirely. Yes, head to head matters in the NFL

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Speaker 1: as a tiebreaker. Nobody's saying it doesn't matter, but it's

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Speaker 1: not that big of a deal and you don't need

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Speaker 1: it very often. And yes, Miami's nine to two and

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame's nine and two, and Miami beat him in August, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, in August, Arch Manning was the number

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Speaker 6: This is the herdline news, all right, Colin.

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Speaker 5: You see the Ravens are seven point favorites at home

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Speaker 6: I don't think the Ravens dominate here. I don't know

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the line has moved. I thought it was one

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Speaker 1: What is the lesson learned from what they did? So

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Speaker 1: If you do not know, Remember they didn't give up

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Speaker 5: So if this were a court case, you would be

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Speaker 1: cold weather. And I think Buffalo has shown its hand

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Speaker 1: more than once. This Buffalo team is good. They're not

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Speaker 1: very good. Well wait, they're not great. They're good.

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Speaker 5: Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson just went up and down

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Speaker 5: the field on the Steelers.

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Speaker 6: Why won't the Buffalo Bills do that?

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Speaker 1: With Josh Allen and James cook because the Chicago Bears

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Speaker 1: have a better offensive line and a better run game

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Speaker 1: and a better quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Wait wait, wait, take that back.

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Speaker 5: Come on, they do not have a better quarterback than

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Speaker 5: the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: Please don't say no, no, no, I'm saying that the Bears

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Speaker 1: went up and down the field. The Bears are better

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Speaker 1: than the Steelers.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's clear, Ok, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: But I'm what I'm saying is Pittsburgh. And we said

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Speaker 1: it's a month ago. It's the hardest team to figure

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Speaker 1: out in the league. Week to week can get a

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Speaker 1: totally different team, I mean, honestly great terrible bat feat

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Speaker 1: the Colts, hammer the Seahawks, and then they can be awful.

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Speaker 1: So when they play poorly or lose, they almost always,

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Speaker 1: especially at home as an underdog, play really well, Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: may lose. I'd take the hook all day long. Interesting

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Speaker 1: jmckle the news.

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Speaker 6: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping that.

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Speaker 2: The herd line news.

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Speaker 1: So there is a headline of story that NFL teams

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Speaker 1: are eyeing Bill Belichick. Okay, I would not hire Belichick.

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Speaker 1: Go look at his Carolina staff, friends and family. Go

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Speaker 1: look at his last New England staff. Read treads. I

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Speaker 1: would not hire Belichick, but there's a bigger thing at

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Speaker 1: play here. Pete Carroll, defensive coach gets hired at seventy four, Raiders'

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Speaker 1: biggest mess in the league Belichick's Patriots when he got

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Speaker 1: to seventy years old, embarrassing worst staff in the league.

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Speaker 1: Older Ron Rivera, Washington nearly sixty hired by Washington mess.

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Speaker 1: Love E Smith defensive coach hired in his sixties, lasted

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Speaker 1: one year in Houston. But yet old offensive coaches Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton sixty one, Andy Reid sixty seven, Bruce Arians won

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl at sixty eight, Horbas in his sixties.

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Speaker 1: Why is that? Why do old defensive coaches Pete Carroll

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Speaker 1: and Belichick and Ron Rivera and Lovey Smith. It's awful,

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Speaker 1: And yet the league right now is being run by

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Speaker 1: offensive coaches, some young, but even the old offensive coaches

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Speaker 1: are having great success. Why would that be? Because offensive

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Speaker 1: coaches are creators, and they're innovators. They're more curious. Go

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Speaker 1: look at any study. Curious people age better. Offensive coaches

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Speaker 1: spend an off season innovating, creating. Andy Reid will send

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Speaker 1: me plays on the phone, won't tell me when he's

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Speaker 1: used them who against But that's what offensive coaches do.

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Speaker 1: That's why so many of them are not all, but

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Speaker 1: so many are good. In September or offensive coaches are exceptional.

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Speaker 1: Off of buy new tricks to show off. Offensive coaches

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Speaker 1: age better. Curious, innovative people age better. So if you're

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Speaker 1: going to hire a defensive coach Chris Shula, Rams, Jesse Minner, Chargers,

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Speaker 1: Demico Ryans, Mike McDonald, Jeff Hafley, the Green Bay guy,

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Speaker 1: go ym. You see it time and time again, older

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Speaker 1: defensive coaches, because what do defensive coaches teach? Brute force

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Speaker 1: and aggression. Offensive coaches creativity, ingenuity, innovation that not only

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Speaker 1: ages people better, it ages coaches better. Carolina their offense

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Speaker 1: last in the acc by all means, let's bring him

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Speaker 1: to pro football. So Mike Tomlin has not won a

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Speaker 1: playoff game in his fifties. A lot of these defensive guys,

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Speaker 1: it's about brute force and aggression and rigidity. They're authoritarian.

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Speaker 1: Those people don't age as well in any industry. They don't.

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Speaker 1: The offensive guys are creators and innovators, and they're curious.

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid aging well, Bill Walsh good later in life

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton still money, Bruce Arians at sixty eight, like

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Speaker 1: I Apparently the Giants do not have any interest in

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Speaker 1: Belichick because they don't want Jordan Hudson and Belichick on

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Speaker 1: the back page of the New York Tabloids. Eric Mangini

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Speaker 1: talked about that last week.

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Speaker 13: If Bill Belichick had sat out a year another year

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Speaker 13: and been available, I think this would have been a

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Speaker 13: really interesting story and he could have gone full circle.

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Speaker 13: And I that's not a great fit either because of

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Speaker 13: his age and some of the personnel issues he's had.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have been on this for a long time

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Speaker 1: that I would hire offensive coaches over defensive coaches for

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Speaker 1: a lot of reasons. One of them is the rules

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Speaker 1: now all lean offense. And the truth is quarterback has

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Speaker 1: become more valuable in the league, So get the guys

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Speaker 1: that have better relationships with quarterbacks. Right. The reason Brady

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Speaker 1: left New England was because of Belichick. He couldn't draft players,

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Speaker 1: he couldn't get offensive guys for him, and you know,

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Speaker 1: there was a certain rigidity and he was just worn

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Speaker 1: out from him. Remember his wife and the documentary. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't get respect. Just at least give him respect. But

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Speaker 1: hiring an old defensive coach in the NFL, Lovey Smith

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Speaker 1: and Pete Carroll and old Bill Belichick and Ron Revere.

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Speaker 1: It's always the same. If you're gonna go d go young,

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Speaker 1: go Current Blazing five top of next hour. Actually I

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Speaker 1: don't do Blazing Five's usually on Thanksgiving because it's a

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Speaker 1: weird wonky week. But there's a lot of good numbers.

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Speaker 1: I like the numbers. Live in Chicago, it's the hurd.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays

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Speaker 6: The greatest rivalry in sports is here.

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Speaker 5: Top rank defending national champion Ohio State heads to the

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Speaker 5: Big House looking to snap Michigan's five.

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Speaker 6: Game win streak. In the game.

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Speaker 5: hour big noon kickoff live from ann Arbor. Then it's

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Speaker 5: Michigan Ohio State at noon only on five.

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Speaker 1: All right, So early NBA basketball. We addressed this yesterday,

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Speaker 1: the pace of play in the NBA. The game is

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Speaker 1: so much better, so much more athletic, so much more skilled,

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Speaker 1: so much faster than years ago. So NBA stars and

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Speaker 1: NBA players don't play any defense. Early last night, the

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Speaker 1: Lakers shot fifty eight percent. The Clipper shot fifty two percent.

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Speaker 1: It was a defensive atrocity, but there were two takeaways

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Speaker 1: and two takeaways Laker Clippers number one. The Kawhi Leonard

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Speaker 1: experiment has been a disaster. I mean, forget the fact

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Speaker 1: that La loves stars and personality and riz he's got none.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's I mean O Tawny McVeigh, Freddie Freeman,

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Speaker 1: Lebron and Luca. Look at the stars in La and

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Speaker 1: then there's Kawhi Leonard. If you want to be a

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Speaker 1: quiet superstar, go play in San Antonio. You and Tim

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Speaker 1: Duncan were perfect. He's just he has not sold tickets

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Speaker 1: or merch. I mean, Kawhi in La is honestly got.

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Speaker 1: It feels I got. Wearing a cowboy hat in Manhattan,

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Speaker 1: you can do it. I think there's a guy in

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Speaker 1: Times Square in his underwear that wears a cowboy hat

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Speaker 1: in Manhattan, but it feels weird. That just doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: The second thing, and this isn't a criticism, it's a reality.

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Speaker 1: The Lakers are dead last in the NBA and three

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Speaker 1: point shooting and bench scoring and can't protect the rim.

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Speaker 1: But they're really fun to watch because JJ Redicks an

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Speaker 1: excellent offensive coach. Luca is the best offensive player in

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Speaker 1: the world. Last night Austin and Luca and Lebron. Now

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Speaker 1: it should be noted the Clippers and Jazz are terrible

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Speaker 1: defensive teams. But just remember happiness is linked to expectations.

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Speaker 1: This has no bench, not shooting threes, the low average defense,

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Speaker 1: and atrocious defending the rim. This team has to make

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Speaker 1: a move at the trade deadline, and I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: what that move will be. But the people who now

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Speaker 1: own the organization are really, really smart. But the Lakers

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Speaker 1: are fun. But I want you to listen. I mean,

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Speaker 1: my takeaway in this whole Kawhi thing is LA is

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Speaker 1: a personality town. They like their they like their teams

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Speaker 1: to have personality. The Lakers are showtime Lakers. The Celtics

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Speaker 1: on the other side of the country were tough and feisty.

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Speaker 1: Big East Basketball was tough and physical, and pat Riley's

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Speaker 1: Knicks were tough and physical. And the Detroit Pistons were

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Speaker 1: the bad boys LA Showtime. The Fabulous Forum, Staples Center,

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Speaker 1: Crypto Arena. And here's who the Clippers. Here's who the

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Speaker 1: Clippers have as their centerpiece.

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Speaker 11: Rethinks the difference with this group where it's been such

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Speaker 11: a struggle to kind of sustain some of the blows

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Speaker 11: you guys are taken earlier.

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Speaker 8: You just got to get the right line ups on

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Speaker 8: the corridor. I guess, you know, get some more talent,

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Speaker 8: play play with better timing, and you see what happens.

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Speaker 1: You say, like, get more talents that like internally.

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Speaker 8: Externally what I'm saying like playing better. Maybe we all

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Speaker 8: just got to play better, make shots, mottle ball a

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Speaker 8: little bit more, trust one another, and just get better.

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I mean, you got the hoodie on,

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Speaker 1: just put some dark shades on. I mean, it just

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Speaker 1: doesn't work. I'm sorry. It's you know, if you live

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, I mean, I guess the Clipper tickets

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Speaker 1: are cheaper. But I mean there's one team right now

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Speaker 1: that's fun to watch and appears to have fun and

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Speaker 1: they like each other. And it's Luca, it's Lebron, it's

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Speaker 1: Austin Reeves, it's Ruey, even DeAndre eight and who's moody?

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Speaker 1: He's happy these days? All right, So a really interesting game.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay is going to play the Detroit Lions. It's

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Speaker 1: a fox tomorrow. It's the early game. So one of

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Speaker 1: the things that's happened with green Bay. Last year, at

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Speaker 1: this time, green Bay was eight and three and felt

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Speaker 1: very good about himself. This year, it's seven to three

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Speaker 1: and one, and nobody likes the Packers. The cheeseheads are

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Speaker 1: freaking out and a lot of the people freaking out

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Speaker 1: with green Bay. The reason they're freaking out is green

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Speaker 1: Bay is doing the opposite of the Steelers. They've pivoted.

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Speaker 1: Number one, their defense is much better than their offense.

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Speaker 1: That hasn't been the case in forever. Number two is

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Speaker 1: they took a huge swing with a Micah Parsons deal.

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Speaker 1: Packers don't do that. Number three, they haven't done this

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Speaker 1: in twenty years. They took a wide receiver, a flashy

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Speaker 1: player in the first round. So they're doing things that

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Speaker 1: green Bay doesn't do. But they were eight and three

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Speaker 1: at this time last year. They're seven to three and

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Speaker 1: one and nobody likes them. And I'm like, but they

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Speaker 1: even hired a college football head coach to run their defense.

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Speaker 1: That's been a big hit. The Mica deal works. The

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Speaker 1: wide receiver they drafted is good. Their defense is better

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Speaker 1: than their offense. It's just a different version of the

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Speaker 1: Packers for the last thirty years. There's one team in

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Speaker 1: professional football on the planet that always gets quarterback, right,

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Speaker 1: little Green Bay, and they still got a good quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I always think Love plays more like far that he

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Speaker 1: does Aaron Rodgers more of a let it rip. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: he wins. Sometimes it's a little cringe. But he's talented.

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Speaker 1: But I think that everybody's getting worked up over Green

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Speaker 1: Bay this year and it's just a different Green Bay

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Speaker 1: and they've pivoted, And you know, I think it's vital

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Speaker 1: in any business, even for us personally, to be current,

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Speaker 1: stay ahead of stuff, no sum tech, get rid of

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Speaker 1: the rigidity, open up, be smart, try to see around corners.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay is just different and they're doing stuff they

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: I like Detroit tomorrow, but it's not because I don't

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Speaker 1: like Green Bay. It's because the Lions are excellent at home.

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Speaker 1: Here's Dan Campbell on facing Micah Parsons.

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Speaker 7: He's a dynamic player, He's a dynamic rusher. Scott plays hard,

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Speaker 7: He's got a quick first step, he's powerful, he's quick.

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Speaker 7: You have to stop this guy and he'll just keep coming.

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Speaker 1: So just to give you an example of how different

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Speaker 1: thirty years. Points per game allowed is eighteen eighteen in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Or excuse me, points per game allowed by

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Speaker 1: the Packers eighteen points a game. That's their best in

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Speaker 1: fifteen years. Yards per game allowed, it's the best in

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Speaker 1: twenty nine years. Yards and plays allowed best since ninety six.

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Speaker 1: So usually Green Bay's top numbers are all offensive. In fact,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers had one really good defense anyone in Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl right, So I think Green Bay's fine. It's a

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Speaker 1: different version of Green Bay. Every data point tells you.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love is good. They don't run the football nearly

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Speaker 1: as well as they'd like to, but they pass it fine.

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Speaker 1: I think the Tucker Craft injury is substantial. He is

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Speaker 1: a looks like a ten year Pro Bowl type tight

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Speaker 1: end to me. But they've still got musk Grave. They're

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Speaker 1: still fine. Wed receiving group is very good. Here's the

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Speaker 1: schedule for the weekend. We are doing a blazing five

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Speaker 1: at the top. I actually think it's a decent weekend

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Speaker 1: for lines, and I do think the public is smarter

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Speaker 1: than it's ever been, so it's hard to get good lines,

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Speaker 1: the Seahawk line initially better than it is now. J Mac,

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Speaker 1: I always ask you, there's an upset every weekend. Give

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Speaker 1: me look at your upset, upset being four four and

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Speaker 1: a half points.

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Speaker 6: I see one.

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Speaker 1: I want to see if you picked.

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Speaker 5: I know you're gonna go with the Browns. That's fine,

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Speaker 5: I am, I am, yeah, not a huge shock the listen.

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Speaker 5: It's not a bad bet. It better not be the Raiders,

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Speaker 5: that's all I know. I'm heavy on the Chargers.

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Speaker 6: You know this is interesting.

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Speaker 5: This Bengals Ravens game is kind of sort of fascinating,

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Speaker 5: and we'll do it in headlines later. There's a lot

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Speaker 5: of stuff here that shows that the Bengals are going

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Speaker 5: to be able to play with them. And I know favorites,

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Speaker 5: big favorites, by the way, unbelievable number for you Colin

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Speaker 5: on Thanksgiving, favorites of seven or more. Yeah, twenty five

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Speaker 5: and one straight up like they are dominant. However, against

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Speaker 5: the spread, it gets a little more condensed. This is

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Speaker 5: the rivalry game, is it up? Can I take the

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Speaker 5: Packers as my upset or no?

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Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's one of them. I

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Speaker 1: like Detroit in MA game because of the history of favorites.

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Speaker 1: I mean Detroit had bad teams and often played really

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Speaker 1: well on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 5: So Detroit last week, remember they played an overtime game

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Speaker 5: against the Giants.

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Speaker 1: How many snaps did they? You know, jamiir, I.

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Speaker 6: Have that number for you.

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Speaker 5: The New York Giants ran seventy seven place, so their

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Speaker 5: defense is on the field all afternoon and they give

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Speaker 5: up six point seven yards were played to Jameis Winston,

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Speaker 5: one Dale Robinson and whoever is that else? Is that

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Speaker 5: Motley crew on the Giants. I don't love what I'm

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Speaker 5: seeing from the Lions defense. They got some guys in

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Speaker 5: the secondary banged up. Joseph's not one hundred percent, Arnold

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Speaker 5: is injured. That interior offensive line. Listen the Packers defense coming.

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Speaker 5: I want to save some of this for headlines, but

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Speaker 5: they're right there with the Texans defense and the Broncos. Statistically,

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Speaker 5: like yards per play, rushing yards defense, they're very, very good,

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Speaker 5: but they don't get the acclaim. I don't think the

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Speaker 5: Lions are gonna be able to run the football like

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Speaker 5: Gibbs went for two fourteen or whatever. He ain't sniffing

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Speaker 5: that against his Packers defense. You remember that season opener,

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Speaker 5: the Packers body bagged them.

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Speaker 6: I was not close.

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Speaker 1: I would be very careful drawing a lot out of

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants Lions game because I think Detroit

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Speaker 1: was looking ahead to Green Bay. I think you're looking

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Speaker 1: at Jamis Winston. It's hard to get the troops. I mean,

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Speaker 1: last week Detroit was so bad defensively, yet this year

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Speaker 1: they're top ten defensively at home. They just were looking

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Speaker 1: way ahead to Thanksgiving in Green Bay because that is

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Speaker 1: a big that is one of the bigger games of

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Speaker 1: the year. The loser in that game has got to

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Speaker 1: look themselves in the mirror. So I think you're taking

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Speaker 1: more out of the Giants performance against the Lions defense

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Speaker 1: than I am. I do believe you see this a lot.

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Speaker 1: There are look ahead games in college football and occasionally

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. I think Detroit's a much better defense

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Speaker 1: than what we saw.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they just haven't had a quality win since that

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Speaker 5: Ravens win on Monday Night Football. Remember, unless you count Tampa,

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Speaker 5: which is a flaming dumpster fire right.

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Speaker 1: Now, all right, Blazing five is coming up. Plus Joel Klatt,

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Speaker 1: Greg cosel J Max Gott his picks Thanksgiving tomorrow. HI

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Speaker 1: to everybody watching in an airport somewhere in North America.

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Speaker 1: It's the hurt