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Speaker 1: Hi. I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling. Railvalry. No, no, sibling.

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Speaker 1: You don't do that with your mouth, Revelry. That's good, Ollie, Oliver.

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Speaker 1: We're an asthmen right now. Yeah, Wilder just came in. Wilder.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think Wilder, my oldest, has this for

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Speaker 1: those of you who don't know, has his first math test.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like this, you know, remote learning math test.

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Speaker 1: It's his first one, and and I mean, let's face it,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't. He's not fucking good at math, and neither

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Speaker 1: am I. And he's supposed to meet with his teacher.

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Speaker 1: And he comes in right now and he's like, Dad,

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Speaker 1: like I think, I know it all, Like I don't

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Speaker 1: want to meet with her, and I'm like, dude, no,

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Speaker 1: you have to. There's no you have no choice. You've

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Speaker 1: got no choice. You got to meet with your teacher.

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Speaker 1: You got to call or you gotta do this, you

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Speaker 1: gotta do that. But I know what I'm doing, and

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Speaker 1: I just don't want to deal with it anymore. What

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Speaker 1: do you mean I don't want I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to do school. I did school. I feel

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Speaker 1: like I'm back in fucking school. Oh, you're talking about yourself,

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Speaker 1: not your kids. Yeah, no, I'm saying I just want

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Speaker 1: to say, you know what, go you go, you do it,

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Speaker 1: you get whatever grade you get. I don't what am

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Speaker 1: I doing? Like last night, i wanted to watch the

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Speaker 1: football game, and now I've got to google how to

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Speaker 1: multiply mixed fractions because I'm not that hard. First of all,

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Speaker 1: multiplying mixed fractions is not that different. You do it,

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Speaker 1: you could, Okay, So so here's a great idea. You

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Speaker 1: could call Rider and ask Rider to be his tutor

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Speaker 1: for like fifteen months the blind blind. Actually, Rider's doing

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Speaker 1: much better in Mathews days. What you're saying, Oliver, what

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Speaker 1: I'm hearing you say is that you don't want to

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Speaker 1: be accountable to your children's schooling, which is a little lazy,

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Speaker 1: But I get it, and I feel like maybe what

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Speaker 1: you could do is incentivize them and it might take

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Speaker 1: a little bit of that pressure off. So so like

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Speaker 1: what I just I've incentivized the shit out of him. Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe you need to incentivize him differently with what I've

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Speaker 1: I've got, I've got a new room, you know. I

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Speaker 1: mean there's so much stuff you are, well, this is

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Speaker 1: it's my thing. Fear and bribery. It's the parenting book.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we all think that there's a way to

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Speaker 1: do it, and everyone reads these books on how to

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Speaker 1: be a parent, But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: it's fear and bribery. You know, if you do this,

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Speaker 1: down to. So I find that that didn't work for

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Speaker 1: me with Writer, and what did work with Rider was

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Speaker 1: actually engaging in what you're saying is really annoying, which

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Speaker 1: is having to constantly sit down and talk about you know,

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Speaker 1: I think one of the things that kids do all

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Speaker 1: tell the craziest little white lies. I know, I did it,

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Speaker 1: I know you did it. Like they weren't even white lives.

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Speaker 1: They weren't even like little they weren't even like little lies.

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Speaker 1: They were like, you're just a you were just a

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Speaker 1: pathological lie. You were just like a sociopath. But that's

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Speaker 1: a whole other that's a whole other podcast. No. But

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Speaker 1: you know, wired to achieve at I'm more interested in

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Speaker 1: bribes won him a gold medal. That's right, that's right,

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Speaker 1: what what are taxes? No idea, but you know, like

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Speaker 1: even just jury duty, like having to figure out what

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to check in and if you're supposed when

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Speaker 1: can I can I say something with jury dutey. I

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Speaker 1: don't think you're going to go to jail or they're

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you're like, you know, I've been to you know,

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Speaker 1: You're going to be so targeted. This is creepy. You've

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Speaker 1: You're supposed to go do jury duty, that is like,

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Speaker 1: Patriotic duty? Are you involved in? Right now? Well? I

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Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow go to jury of course. I love that.

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Speaker 1: Gwyneth is the person that comes up in your mind.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Gwyneth goes to jury duty. Yes, Ollie, this

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Speaker 1: of Oliver please and what he's doing right now so

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Speaker 1: was together. You didn't you didn't want it, you didn't. Well,

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00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: the thing that we're not addressing is that Sean's a

425
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: red and yet a redheaded child is not like you know,

426
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: It's like you see a mangy street badger, like a

427
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: badger on the ground and he's got some trash in

428
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: his mouth and he's looking at you and he's like,

429
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 1: I'm going to pick your life up. You don't want

430
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: to touch it, but I'm cute. Do you want it?

431
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 1: And you're like, I don't want it, but I'll take it.

432
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: And then you bring it home and you realize you're like,

433
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: I've got a dirty badger in my house. This is

434
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:58,479
Speaker 1: a nightmare. That is actually what it's like growing up

435
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: with a with a with the redhead. And so you know,

436
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: you guys got on the redhead again, which is weird

437
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: really like nobody actually and my sister is blonde. He

438
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: was blonde. We've just covered the bases and my my

439
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: mom's sides hall Italians. I don't know, like it's it's

440
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: a strange situation where where I came from. But wait, wait,

441
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: so Jesse Jesse, so he bugged the shit out of

442
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: you basically until he was fifteen or sixteen years old.

443
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: I mean you were just like this little fucker is

444
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: just get out of my way. That's when I remember

445
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: really clicking. Like we were homies, like I thought when

446
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: we were younger, like you were obviously like you you

447
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: loved me, and you were you were there for me

448
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: and all these things, but we weren't like kicking it

449
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: socially like you had your group of friends. We're a

450
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: lot older. And then I think the skate ramp really

451
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: tied us together though. Yeah, like you and our buddies

452
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: were in high school and like, uh, you know, wearing

453
00:26:54,680 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: Primus T shirts and like you'd come, that's exactly what

454
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: we're doing. I remember that. But Sean, weren't you born

455
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: with a health condition? Mm hmm. Yeah. It's called tetrology flow.

456
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: It's a congenital heart defect and I had I had

457
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: a couple of surgeries to correct it. That was that

458
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: was like real early though, like right when I was born.

459
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: So did that affect Jesse how you sort of played

460
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: with him? No? And that was you know, so so

461
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: both are Sean and then our sister as well. Like

462
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: when we were young, both spent quite some time in

463
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: the hospital, and you know, it was pretty extensive. I

464
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: think my parents stayed at the Ronald McDonald house for

465
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: quite some time, and you know, we were in and

466
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: out and during that whole time, it's still pretty young.

467
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: I was living a lot with my aunt and would

468
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: like check in the hospital. And then you know, Sean

469
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: Carey were so young when they happened. By the time

470
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: they got to like four and five, they we're just

471
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: normal and it wasn't it wasn't that much of a consideration.

472
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: And you know, I think our parents, like our dad

473
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: is is I mean, he's one of a kind. And

474
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: like living with like a sense of fear is not

475
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: really like something that was a part of our family dynamics.

476
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: So you know, our mom would get worried, but we

477
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: didn't really live with that, Like it wasn't a stigmatism

478
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: that held over. That's interesting. That's interesting. Now, Now do

479
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: you think it's a bigger question because obviously you guys

480
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: are not fearless. Everyone has fear, but to be able

481
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: to do what you've done, Sean, and even you, Jesse,

482
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have probably a fearlessness. I mean, do

483
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: you think that that is innate and you're born with

484
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: that or do you think it's sort of how you

485
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: were raised or it's a combination of both. I don't

486
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: like Sean, I don't know, like because we talked about

487
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: this from times in time, but it's it's I want

488
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: to say, it's so much fearlessness. I think it's just

489
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: like you know, like awareness if you will, Like Sean,

490
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: what's you say, Like, it's just more about like you

491
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: know yourself so well and you know your body and

492
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: then you can just you know, you just end up

493
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: like feeling it out. Yeah, yeah, I think it's both.

494
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: I think it's like I think it's like, you know,

495
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: Mom and Dad didn't really like I mean, Mom was

496
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: much more you know, worried than Rag was about things,

497
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: and he he kind of like like she would start

498
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: to go a place like can he do this, and

499
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: he'd be like, you know, like let's see, yeah, let's

500
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: here too, Like he would rogers. Like Dad's like the

501
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: kind of guy that would go. Him and our grandpa

502
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: would go out to San Diego Harbor on a little

503
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: dinghy in the middle of the night and dive down

504
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: like into the ocean on the with a flashlight and

505
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: night and like yeah and like basically poached, yeah home,

506
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: like covered in blue ink and who who does that?

507
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: You know, like how do you how would you start there?

508
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: Like Oliver? You know they would poach the traps, Oh

509
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: for sure, Yeah they were. They were my dad. You know,

510
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: his life revolves around the beach. You know, he loves

511
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: the ocean. I'm actually named Sean after uh, the South

512
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: African surfer Sean Thompson. Jesse's named after Jesse Takamura. There

513
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: just because that was a big baby, A big baby

514
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: on the island, A big, big white baby in the

515
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: Hawaiian hospital, Big Howey baby. The big round, very hung baby.

516
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: You know. He he always loved being in the water

517
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: and surfing and and diving in these things. And he

518
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: used to dive for like abaloni and stuff. So on

519
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: occasion he would go out and like dive and poach

520
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: the traps with my grandpa. But you know, they were

521
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: they were those characters like when when they set up

522
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: the trampoline, my Mom's like, you can't do flips. There's

523
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: no there's no flips. You can jump up and down,

524
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: but don't do a flip. And my dad like did

525
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: a backflip. Well he's gonna break the rules. I'm gonna

526
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: break the you know what I mean. And yeah, and

527
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: so he would kind of like set the tempo as well.

528
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: But we never really lived I think in that fear

529
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: state of like, oh, like don't worry about it. And

530
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: then as we grew up in that kind of environment,

531
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: I think it just became instilled in us because I

532
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: never really think about my heart condition until you know,

533
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: or now I do a little bit more. I'm like,

534
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I won't do this or that, but

535
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: it rarely comes into my life because it's not something

536
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: I was trained to constantly think about and and but

537
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: mind you, like, I feel very very fortunate that my

538
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: condition allows me to do these things. You know, I

539
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: know some people with the same condition, and everything's different

540
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: for other people's. It's just like some people get affected

541
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: by the flu much, you know, more severely than others.

542
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: I think my maybe a rarer condition where I just

543
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: bounce back and uh had the fight in me. So

544
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I definitely am thankful for what I

545
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: can do, and I know some of my limitations, but

546
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: at that time it definitely wasn't like, you know, every

547
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: single thing we did that was like micromanaged by our parents.

548
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: Definitely not the case, right, But limitations, I mean, how

549
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: do you what are you? What are your limitations? I

550
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: mean you've pretty much done at all as far as

551
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: cardiovascularly and putting your putting your body on the line.

552
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: You know. I was told I can't scuba dive. Oh

553
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: really that was kind of it. Cat, don't stay in

554
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: the sauna too long and don't scuba dive, And I

555
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: was like, when the heck am I gonna scuba dive?

556
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 1: And it doesn't it does. I don't know what it

557
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: is about, Like it's something about like a CEO two

558
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: bubble getting into your bloodstreams. I don't know, some some

559
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: random anomaly that would happen, and so I was like, oh, whatever,

560
00:32:53,480 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: who cares, And now you know it really heard it is.

561
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: It really bums me out, like because I've met and

562
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: my friends with scuba diving and they're down there petting

563
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: you know, sharks and porpoises and things, and I'm like

564
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: floating on the surface with seagulls. Just it's just the

565
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: same thing as like Jimmy Kimmels, yes exactly, Yes, he

566
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: actually called me to come on the show and talk

567
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: about it when when he found out. It was a

568
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: very heavy moment listening to Jimmy do his opening speech

569
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: and explaining the situation what his family's going through, and

570
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: he's like, I had to hand my beautiful newborn baby

571
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: to someone to go be cut open and operated on,

572
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And just this whole thing

573
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: kind of flashed in front of my eyes of like

574
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: what my parents actually went through at that time, because

575
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: you know, I remember it being a part of my history.

576
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: But like Jesse said, as we got older, it just

577
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: kind of like, hey, look, you know, kid's doing great.

578
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: We won't hold him back. And then you know, to

579
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: get these checks or these moments in life where you

580
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: get perspective. I was really blown and away, you know,

581
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: how he was handling it and how my parents, you know,

582
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: handled it. And I remember calling my mom after and

583
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: thanking her for you know, growing teaching me the lesson

584
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: she did and letting me kind of find my own

585
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: boundaries and all that. It was just such a heavy situation.

586
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, Jimmy's got any questions, just have him

587
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: called me, you know. I was like, okay, you know, yeah,

588
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: why don't you guys? It really does say a lot

589
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: about your parents, you know, even just to have the

590
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: freedom you're trampoline and all of those, all the stories

591
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: that you're telling and just feeling like never feeling like

592
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: you had any or were any different than your brothers

593
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: are needed to be played with differently, Like, that's a

594
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: such a gift that your parents were able to let go. Sure,

595
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard because you know, we're parents, and

596
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: it's hard because you want to protect your kids always,

597
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: that's just an instinct. But at the same same time,

598
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: you have to let them do their thing. You have

599
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: to let them fall and fail and live and live.

600
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: But but but but it goes against your sort of

601
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: natural impaternal for me, maternal for Kate instinct to sort

602
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: of say, well wh wh wh whoa whoa whoa whoa.

603
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know what, fuck it as long

604
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: as they're not going to die, and you know, meaning

605
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: like don't run out in the street, but hey, take

606
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: a spill, take it, or like jump off, jump on

607
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: trampolines that have no path, cool, normal, stop just stop.

608
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: E helix is this is a This is a bittersweet

609
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: ad for me to read right now because I've been

610
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: living in Colorado, as most people know who listen to

611
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: this podcast, and my helix Mattress is all alone in

612
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, although I have a testimonial from a friend.

613
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: Friend Mark Rose and Alison are my best friends and

614
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: they are living at my house right now while I

615
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: am away. They're on my helix and they are honestly

616
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: loving it. Mark called me yesterday and he goes, dude,

617
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: what's up with this mattress. It's amazing and this is

618
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: no bullshit, and I'm like, oh, it's a helix. Luck.

619
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 1: Their sex life gone like off the charts like yours

620
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: an air well. I said, look, you got to at

621
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: least tell me the first time that you make love

622
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: in my on my helix. I don't know if that

623
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: makes me feel great of like having people make love

624
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: in my bed, like that's my bed. You know. Mattress

625
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: holds energy, Oliver, it better be really good energy they're

626
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: putting in there. Yeah, but they have good sex, so

627
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: my helix will absorb their beautiful sexual energy. So here's

628
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: what you do. Let me explain it because I'm a pro.

629
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: They make it really easy. You take a quiz and

630
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,640
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631
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: suits you. Okay, some people they you know, side sleepers,

632
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,480
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633
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:10,200
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634
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Speaker 1: so you weren't high school together. How old were you

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Speaker 1: when he left eleven? When he left college. Yeah, I

691
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Speaker 1: didn't go to college, but we I just left. You

692
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693
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Speaker 1: out of here, Like I'm I'm out of here. So,

694
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Speaker 1: I mean, we grew up snowboarding. It was such a

695
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Speaker 1: big part of our lives, you know, to get even

696
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Speaker 1: at the point of me turning eighteen, like we had

697
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Speaker 1: had a whole history, almost four years of snowboarding, competitive snowboarding,

698
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: traveling road tripping together. We had a we had a

699
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Speaker 1: family van. We'd all get to get in and go

700
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Speaker 1: from contest to contests, and I think we skipped a

701
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: little rung in the ladder because Jesse started to snowboard

702
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: first and I started to snowboard after him, then my sister,

703
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: then my dad, then finally my mom go and now

704
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: that we all snowboard, it became like our thing. So

705
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: like instead of our parents yelling at us from the

706
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: sideline of a soccer field or any traditional sport where

707
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: they're they're just sitting watching, this is like they were

708
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: there with us participating. So we go up ride together

709
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: and then on the weekend there'd be like these little

710
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: amateur contests and then once I was entered in a contest,

711
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: and you know, I did pretty well, I think I

712
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: did pretty well or I wanted it was a race,

713
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: and then Jesse also entered and did pretty pretty well,

714
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: and and it just became our thing where we would

715
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: go up, have a day of free riding and do

716
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: a competition and like head home and that was like

717
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: our weekend, every single weekend fun. And then once things

718
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: kind of took off and I man the whole. I

719
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: think Jesse. Jesse had a couple of sponsors. I had

720
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: a couple of sponsors and like things took off and

721
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: it just became like, Okay, now there's like interests in

722
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: our kids have talent, we're gonna we're gonna hit the

723
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: road and start doing these events. But Jesse and I

724
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: like that's when we really started to come together as

725
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: a family. I think, you know, we were with each

726
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: other every single day and our parents did the one

727
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: thing that we loved to do. That's pretty cool, that's

728
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: really cool. You so you guys did this while you

729
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: were in school? Oh yeah, yeah, So how did you

730
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Speaker 1: get your school work done? Or did you just did

731
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: did you comeol? Did that work out? I mean how hard?

732
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: That's the honest, Like, you know, a we would You know.

733
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: The thing is is that so we didn't grow up

734
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: in the mountains, right, We grew up in San Diego,

735
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Speaker 1: and then our closest mountain was about like two and

736
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: a half hours away. It's called snow Summit. And so

737
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: what our parents will do is basically we do school

738
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: on Friday. We'd drive up Friday night. We'd try to

739
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: snowboard that night right if we could, and we had

740
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Speaker 1: like a little cabin that they rented. Well first, actually

741
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: we just would go to Motol six and that was

742
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: that was something we love motel cable like a cable,

743
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,160
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744
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Speaker 1: watch like Beavis and butt Heads, Like there's TV in

745
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746
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: so many channels, and so we would do that and

747
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: sometimes we'd sleep in the parking lot. You know, we

748
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: just kind of like made it work. Our parents really

749
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: just made it work, which was incredible. But you know,

750
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: the whole thing is that we would leave Friday, we'd

751
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: get up there, we'd have only Saturday and Sunday to ride,

752
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: like that's it. Where everyone else that lived up there,

753
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: you know, they could just do it when they wanted.

754
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: We were just so hyper focused on a small amount

755
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: of time. And then they jam us back on Sunday

756
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: night and we'd like home to school like our faces

757
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: all sunburned, just like you're like, whoa, well, hell was

758
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Speaker 1: your weekend, you know, and we would just be snowboarding

759
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: like that. And then when things got more serious, like

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Speaker 1: talk about you know, a miracle or fate or whatever.

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00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: But like right when things got serious for my career especially,

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Speaker 1: you know, it just so happened that our school principal

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Speaker 1: mister Swinterton was an avid skier from Utah, so he

764
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,000
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765
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: for it. Like that's great. I heard it's dumping over there.

766
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: You should go. I'll fait, we'll figure it out. We'll

767
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: put you in a different class when you come back.

768
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: I was like really, like, I'd be like, hey, I'm

769
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: in a good Japan for like three weeks, Like what

770
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: do you think He's like, sounds awesome? Really yeah, So

771
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: like I was put in this special class where i'd

772
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: like make up my work, and like you know, he

773
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: just really helped me out. It wasn't until middle school

774
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: where things got a little rocky because like middle school

775
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: they kind of break you in for high school where

776
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: you have, you know, you have to get your own

777
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,880
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778
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: little bit more and and the teachers aren't so nice

779
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: and responsible for you. They're like, yeah, well whatever, you

780
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: figure it out, you get back to you know, and

781
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: they kind of break you in for high school and

782
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: at that time, you know, I'm now I don't have

783
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: mister Swinterton to back me. And at that point I

784
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 1: was like, okay, well this is getting to a place

785
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: where it's more serious, I have sponsors, I might have

786
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: been making money at that point or just gone pro.

787
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: So it was like, hey, let's let's do independent study.

788
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: So that's that's when that all kind of kicked off.

789
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: And and that's kind of like, I don't know, Yeah,

790
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: that's kind of like when I left. It was kind

791
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: of like right when you went into middle school. Yeah,

792
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: that's when I moved up to like Tahoe, But you

793
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: weren't gone for long. Well, I mean it's just so nice,

794
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: wet room. You know, you had the snacks, getting the

795
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: vibe of how this basically you didn't really leave you

796
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: just like you just saw your Absolutely was a man

797
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: on my own. I had my own Costco card, so

798
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: that was a big step. Yeah, you're like, I am

799
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: my own. Why why did you move to Tahoe. You're

800
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: just like, I'm out here, I'm going to I'm going

801
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: to Tahoe where the snow is. Snowboarding, I mean that

802
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: was that was definitely so you know how we grew up.

803
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: Snowboarding was definitely it was just a little differ. Friend.

804
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: Sean was very like competitions and I was a little

805
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: bit more about just uh like freestyle or like just

806
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: just doing it non competitively. And so we just had

807
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 1: these two different routes and Tahoe was just a place

808
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: to be to do that. M hm, Right, And how

809
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: long were you there before you went back home? Let's

810
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: just you know, for a little while you're there. I

811
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: definitely put in some time. I think I did. I

812
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: did two years, I think two years. And then and

813
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: then I don't know why, but I felt this like

814
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: team that I had to go to college, like it

815
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: was like a responsible thing to do. And so I

816
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: went to college for a semester and then I was like, nope, yeah,

817
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: this is this is not terrible. This is where did

818
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: you study all your art and everything? Or is it

819
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: just was that just a passion of yours? That was?

820
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: You know? That was like right when I know, I know,

821
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: I know, we talk all the time. I just remember

822
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: you always being very artistic. You would you would always

823
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: like be doing something. You were always like painting or

824
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: drawing or something. Yeah, that was always I think that

825
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: was always there. And then right around that time too,

826
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: I hurt myself pretty bad, and so I was back

827
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: at home. I was hurt. I took a drawing class

828
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: and that was like, you know you had to do community.

829
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, wait wait, you can't say you're hurt

830
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 1: and not say how you got hurt. So you got hurt.

831
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: I want I want to know what details? Yeah, totally.

832
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: I mean I wish I could make this sound like

833
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: a die hard moment, you know, just like oh, and

834
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: then there was the German right and I was on

835
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: the grenade. Ye, no, I was. I was snowboarding. I

836
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: was trying to trick on a handrail. So like you know,

837
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: you can snow at the resort and you can snowboard,

838
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: or you can also go snowboarding kind of in the

839
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: streets when it snows, and we'd love to look for

840
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: stairs and the handrails and so you slide down them.

841
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: And so I was doing this rail and the way

842
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 1: I fell, I felt like sitting down in my butt

843
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: kind of like slipped like the this kind of just

844
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 1: slipped out, and uh, I was just I was out,

845
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: like I couldn't feel my legs for a little. It's

846
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: pretty nervous. And ended up just tearing like a bunch

847
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: of stuff in my lower back and so recovering back

848
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: at home, which also included like a bunch of ice

849
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: cream this is like a professional athlete recovery diets of

850
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: ice cream and chocolate had jam runs. I remember I

851
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: would go play in his room and he and I

852
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: under his bed would be all the various bowls. I

853
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: was a healthy child. Put him under his bed, guys,

854
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: a healthy child. Was that the Willy Wonka gig where

855
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: we just we watched Willy Wonka, like over and over

856
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: and over tough. It got really weird. I feel like,

857
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: really really weird. And I remember you were just like

858
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: down to let me be around. So I was like, Okay,

859
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: I'll watch this with you again. He started over you, guys,

860
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: this is this is like I don't even know how to.

861
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how our parents didn't like kick us

862
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: over to like a psychiatritism, like it was a full

863
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: year of Willy Wonka just twice a day, like the

864
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: gene wildlike at least so amazing and one of the

865
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: great movies, by the way, one of the great movies. Right, yeah,

866
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: we can just put on the list. And I'm so

867
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 1: all right. So you checked out. You were in Tahoe

868
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: Ish and you're still boarding, but you're but you don't

869
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: board competition wise, like you're you're not doing you're not

870
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 1: a soulful border. I'm a soul Yeah, soul border soul

871
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: boarder what I like what we'd like to say. Yeah.

872
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: But at that time, too, Sean, you were I mean

873
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: you were still doing the amateur contest right, yeah, probably,

874
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: and it was like right around you were like eleven

875
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: or twelve s all the stack chili, like winning all

876
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: that good booty. The other thing about these contests that

877
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: we did growing up is like they just had the

878
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: craziest crisis. I do remember that, Like, because you couldn't

879
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 1: win money and being amateur, so they give you they'd

880
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: give you various prizes from the sponsors of the event,

881
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 1: and the sponsors were pretty outrageous and one was one.

882
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: So you'd walk up and my mom would always get

883
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: pissed because like she'd be like I'd win the I'd

884
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: win the event, or Jesse, Jesse win and you'd go

885
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: pick a prize and there's this big table full of

886
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: all these prizes. There's a snowboard, there's a skateboard, there's

887
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: a jacket, there's all this stuff. And at the time,

888
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: you know, like my Mom's like get the jacket. We

889
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 1: can we can give you a jacket or we can

890
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: sell it, we can sell it somebody, you know, pay

891
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: for gas, you know, and and like we'd be up

892
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: there like and then we'd always grab the box of

893
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 1: stag chili, a variety pack with all different They're like no,

894
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: and so you know, and we're sitting there eating the

895
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: chili in the van and uh, but did you guys,

896
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: did you have a name for the van? You call

897
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: it the Yeah, yeah, it wasn't very clever. It was

898
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: motor homes for mo I. Like the story of it

899
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: was pretty great because they found I don't know how

900
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: they found it, but it was. It was apparently used

901
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: down near the border as like a stakeout van, and

902
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: whoever was in there watching for people crossing the border,

903
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: you know, he he had a lot of cats and

904
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: the cats had fleas, and like we got this van.

905
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: It was like this red, rusty coloration and and it

906
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: was we had I remember pulling the flea bombs with

907
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: with Roger and throwing him in the van to like

908
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: kill all the fleas. And then they took the van

909
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: to Tiawana to have it re upholstered. Obviously obvious. Yeah,

910
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: for the amount of money as possible and then brought

911
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: it back over and and then my dad like somehow

912
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: installed He's he's the pretty handy guy, but like he

913
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: it'll work, but on occasion. And so he somehow rigged

914
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: it to have like a propane tank outside and like

915
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: a little stove in there, and like some running water

916
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: here and there, and then and and that became like

917
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: the family, dude, isn't it's so great though, I mean,

918
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: the memories, it's just it's it's like I'm nostalgic and

919
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm not even a part of your family. I'm like,

920
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: oh man, I remember that too, like I know it.

921
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: Just I think what you're feeling, Allie is like a

922
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: connection to the mountain. It's just speaks to me. It's

923
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: like in my heart. I love it so much. Just

924
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: the energy of the mountains. That's that's what I'm feeling.

925
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: I think, you know is a beautiful skier like a

926
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: like a yeah, what's it's like? What you like? Beautiful

927
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 1: swan floating down the mountains? Trash marshmallows. If I'm a

928
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: trash badger, then what is he? I was going to

929
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: I was going to compliment you. I never compliment you.

930
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: I was just going to compliment you and see now

931
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: it's been it's like Karmik now I can't do it.

932
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: I know she can't do it. This would have been

933
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 1: one of the first complient I was to say, Oliver

934
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: has this way of skiing. He's the guy that you

935
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: see when you're on the chair lift or the gondola

936
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: and you're like, he must be like an instructor or

937
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: a ski patrol or something. You know, he's like that

938
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: kind of confidence shines through. Yeah, he's got I wish

939
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: I had more balls, though, Dude. Watching what you've done

940
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: and the ship that you've pulled off, it's like, how

941
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: do you even begin that ship? It's crazy to me,

942
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 1: just you know, the confidence and again just the nuts

943
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: and something got easier actually because they they we we

944
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: you know, kind of revolutionize the sport by using airbags

945
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 1: like what stunt men used in Hollywood, and they blow

946
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: up these big bags of air with multi layers, and

947
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: the the air disperses when you hit the top and

948
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: it kind of catches you safely somewhat. I mean, nothing's

949
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: full proof. I've been to the mountains where like the

950
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: the lifties, the guys that run the resort or whatever,

951
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're they're like younger dudes and they're

952
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 1: hanging or girl you know, girls and guys, and sometimes

953
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: they're from other countries and like they're just chit chat,

954
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: hanging out, and like they didn't realize that the generator

955
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: ran out and the things slowly deflating. I hit it,

956
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: and I hit the bottom. I'm like, oh, like things

957
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,479
Speaker 1: go wrong, or the wind picks it up and moves

958
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 1: it to the left slightly and you miss the thing.

959
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: It's just a lot can go wrong. But you know

960
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: before that, you had to give it just the old Hey,

961
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: here we go. Yeah, let's try it. How many times

962
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: on the bag? How confident do you have to be

963
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: on the bag to then actually put it? Put it

964
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: on the put it, put it to the snow, you

965
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It really depends. It's just kind

966
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: of like it's like a It's like a numbers game

967
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: at that point. And like how consistent am I? Like

968
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: when I wake up and first attempt, does that went on?

969
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: Or does it take me like three tries to get

970
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: to a point where I'm like warmed up and then

971
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: knowing that like, okay, cool. If I was going to

972
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 1: try it today, I'm definitely going to try it on

973
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: their on the first try. I try it on the

974
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: third try. But you want to get it to where

975
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: like there's been a week straight where you wake up

976
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: you've barely you know, stretched and done anything, and you

977
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: can drop that trick no problem onto the bag perfect

978
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: and you're just kind of feeling it. And then you

979
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 1: would take it to the actual wall. And especially with

980
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: the tempting tricks, like before you had to just kind

981
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: of work up to it and try it, and that

982
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: was that was heavy. You would take a lot of hits,

983
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: and now the tricks. It just happened at this perfect

984
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: time where you know, I was actually, God, I was

985
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: probably twenty two, i want to say, and I was

986
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: going for my second Olympics and I had called one

987
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: of my sponsors and said, hey, you know what, it's

988
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: getting crazy for me. At the resort. People are standing

989
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: on the side of the half pipe trying to get

990
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: selfies with me while I'm in the air, Because like

991
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: you could just show up with the resort and buy

992
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: a lift ticket and come, yeah, there's no like half pipe.

993
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: There's no yeah, there's no like it's not like NBA,

994
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: Like you're just like it's like if you could drive

995
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: your car onto the track and and be next to

996
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: Jeff Gordon like hey, and like trying to get the

997
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: second turn. And so it's it's distracting, and it's it's

998
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: a lot, and then it's hard to film at that

999
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: time too. Plus when the sun, you know, is going

1000
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: over the mountain side, like certain times of the day,

1001
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: it's better to hit certain walls, like this wall's shaded

1002
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: and then this one's in the sun, or or switches around.

1003
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: And if you really want the afternoon sunny wall, you

1004
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: can't do it at the resort because the halfpipe is

1005
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: chewed up by then. It's been you know, the general

1006
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: public has just been going through there all day long,

1007
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: and it's it's snow, it's soft and melts. You get it,

1008
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: you know, when it's chundery at the end of the

1009
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: day and you can't really do your tricks. So this

1010
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: was like, Hey, this perfect scenario where we're gonna be

1011
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: in a private setting that's safer, we can film do

1012
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: all these things. And then I had this idea of like, man,

1013
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: if we're going to go to this great length of

1014
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: building this halfpipe, you know, I spent a summer skateboarding

1015
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: at this place called Camp Woodward out in Pennsylvania, and

1016
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: they know it's the it is the best place on

1017
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: Earth thing. I was. I don't know how old that was.

1018
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: I was probably like eleven or something. It's literally like

1019
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: the most amazing skate park you've ever been to. And

1020
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: there's like ten different skate parks you can go to,

1021
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: all various levels of you know, difficulty, and attached to

1022
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: it is a gymnastics camp. So like, I don't even know.

1023
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: I think I may have gotten like my first kiss

1024
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: out there, second kiss. I was like, yeah, the best

1025
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: place on earth, you know. And but I remember that story.

1026
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,959
Speaker 1: That's a whole nother story. But this this I remember

1027
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: watching the gymnastics going down and seeing that they were

1028
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: jumping into foam blocks and I was like, oh, wow,

1029
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: that's really interesting. And then later on Travis Pastrana started

1030
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: doing his training for double backflips on a motorcycle into

1031
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: a phone pit m hm, and I was like, why

1032
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: don't we do that? Why don't we bring a phone

1033
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: pit up to the mountain and cut off the end

1034
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,959
Speaker 1: of the halfpipe and I'll jump out of the pipe

1035
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: into the into the phone and uh and and that

1036
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: then later turned into so I could safely like try

1037
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: my tricks and then go back up and do it

1038
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: in the half pipe. This had never been done before,

1039
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: and it changed the sport and the phone pit. Man,

1040
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: it was really difficult, Like it's really heavy, it's hard

1041
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: to get up there. What's the container made out of

1042
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: that holds the blocks? Do the blocks? If the blocks

1043
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: get wet, they freeze at night? Like, there's a lot

1044
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: of variables. So the air bag invention was much much better,

1045
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: and it's and it's a lot a lot easier and

1046
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: safer to use. But that really changed the sport. So

1047
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: now trying tricks you do have the comfort of using

1048
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: an airbag. But the side or the kicker of it

1049
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: all is that the tricks got a lot harder. Yeah,

1050
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: and it's partly my fault, but you know, a lot

1051
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: my fault because I was I was pushing the envelope.

1052
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: Hey hey, Jesse, when did you you see your little

1053
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: brother and be like, okay, wait a minute, like this

1054
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: this shit is real. Yeah, I mean it was pretty clear.

1055
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: Like I want to say, like our first year riding together,

1056
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: snowboarding's like you know, you know, when you first learned,

1057
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: it's just hard. Yeah, And back then too, like there

1058
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: was never equipment that was like as good as it

1059
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: is now. So you know, like my snowboard weighed twenty pounds.

1060
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: It was like a rental board basically, and Sean was

1061
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: snowboarding in ski boots on like just some like janky

1062
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: snowboard that was like made by the liftop right, Like

1063
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: it was just like not what you see now. But

1064
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: then with that, like it was just we just accelerated

1065
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: so quickly, I mean, and being like what was really

1066
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: unique about snow Summit too at that time, how we

1067
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: grew up. It's like what Sean was getting to is

1068
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: like the park builder for Snow Summit happens to be

1069
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 1: like the best park builder in the world, and this

1070
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: is where he grew up like honing his So like

1071
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: we grew up in this, you know, not the greatest

1072
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: mountain setting, but it was, I mean the best place

1073
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: to be in the entire world at that time if

1074
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: you wanted to. That's like that's like Outliers. It's the book.

1075
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: It's the Malcolm Gladwell book where they're like, you know,

1076
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: the things that actually set you up for to be

1077
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: like the greatest or the great success are a series

1078
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: of things like would you have would you have been

1079
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: able to get there if you say, didn't have a

1080
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: park like that, you know, to to start. I mean,

1081
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: you know, after reading that book, I applied a lot

1082
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: of it to my life. And I sat there thinking, wow, well,

1083
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: you know what, Snow Summit had a toe rope at

1084
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: the half pipe itself. So toe rope is like you know,

1085
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: you guys would call out, but for the people listening,

1086
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a miniature chairlift. Would you say,

1087
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: it's just a rope with little little you know, hooks

1088
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: on it that you grab onto. It's so hard to

1089
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: use grab onto it, like that's the fying contraption. Does

1090
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: this look good? You think we're done? Yeah, we're done?

1091
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: This is fine. Yeah either yeah, you either like ride

1092
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: up with it or you you fall and it drags

1093
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: you out there, your clothes get hooked and drags you

1094
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: up the side of the hill. But I was sitting

1095
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: there thinking like, Okay, if you grew up in Saint

1096
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: Vermont or Colorado or wherever, and you had to take

1097
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: the chair lift to take a lap for the half pipe,

1098
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: and I only had to take the tow rope, I'm

1099
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: probably getting in you know, four or five runs or

1100
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 1: what if you had to hike the halfpipe. You know,

1101
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm probably getting in you know, four or five runs

1102
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: compared to your one run. And that's like every single

1103
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: day that I'm on the mountain. And the days that

1104
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: we actually rode were so frequent because California has that

1105
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: beautiful sunny weather. You know, if if you were in

1106
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: Vermont says like well below freezing, you're taking the chair lift,

1107
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: like it's very intimidating to go, Okay, I'm gonna try this,

1108
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: you know, scary trick next round where I'm in California

1109
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: where a lot of the pros are now you're yeah,

1110
01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: just like having having a good one. Yeah, six years old,

1111
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: just shirt off. I think I was a dirty, trash, badger, loose.

1112
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: So but Jess Jesse, so you you're obviously when you

1113
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: guys are, when you guys are boarding, right, you're better

1114
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: because you're older and you're better and you're better and

1115
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: you're better. Was there the moment that all of a

1116
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: sudden you're like, this little fucker, Sean has just overtaken me.

1117
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean, or do you still think you're better? Do

1118
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: you still think you're better let's just get a couple

1119
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: of things straight, guys. It was, you know, it was

1120
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: it was all kind of within a couple of years,

1121
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: like we just noticed our transition. Like with riding at

1122
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: this resort too, it's it's super busy, right, like we're

1123
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: only riding on the weekend where everyone else is riding

1124
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: as well. So we had to ride in groups, like

1125
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: it would be five of us and we'd all be

1126
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: about like six feet apart, and we'd all be hitting

1127
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: the jumps and you just kind of like one goes right,

1128
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: one goes left. And then you know, it started to

1129
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: be where like Sean just kept landing like he was

1130
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: always the one that was like landing and going on

1131
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: to the next jump. And so it was just this

1132
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: like evolution and then all of a sudden you started

1133
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: showing like competing in just like winning more and more

1134
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: and more. And then it just like it just flipped

1135
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: and you could just tell, you know, like you you

1136
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: had a couple of injuries though you had you had

1137
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: the a c L and some things, and and there

1138
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: I think there was a point where you slightly went

1139
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: like I don't know if I want to do this.

1140
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: You can just you can just say, I turned into

1141
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: an artist. I just went you artists on the Uh,

1142
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: that was the cutie. It's like Elliott Smith. A lot

1143
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: of like dark rooms and we can talk about it.

1144
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: It's fine. The jeans were tight, you know, attitude was huge,

1145
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 1: it was it was a time and brewing your own

1146
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: beer in the in the closet. You said, dud cab

1147
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: for cutie. That just like that just like put all

1148
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: in perspective for me. It's right. It's you say that.

1149
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: I immediately know the guy you're talking about. This guy

1150
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: that's who we're talking about, this guy night seeing. But

1151
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: I'm amazed at how it's so seamlessly kind of transition,

1152
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: because you slowly like were like getting into other things.

1153
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: And then and then I started to really excel at

1154
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: competing and getting sponsors, and I decided to go pro,

1155
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: and I was getting notoriety. And then it got very

1156
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: like uncool to be with mom and dad on the

1157
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: road still, and it was getting hard for them to

1158
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: keep their jobs and travel with me. And then you

1159
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: were almost old enough to rent a car at that point. Yeah. Yeah,

1160
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: I had just dropped out of college and they're like,

1161
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: you know what, you guys should travel the world together,

1162
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: just became what we call the team manager. So he

1163
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: worked technically for Burton Snowboards and became my team manager,

1164
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: so my travel companion, and he'd helped me do these things.

1165
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: But simontanis with my did you guys get into like

1166
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: did you have oh my gosh, we were super sleep

1167
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: at night. Yeah. As the team manager, Jesse, you have

1168
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: to make sure of those things, you know what I mean,

1169
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: you know what. They gave me a credit card, so

1170
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 1: we were fine, great, great, great, great, thank God for time, Sean,

1171
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: where you were like, Jesse, you you have to like

1172
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: get this together. He was pretty responsible, like we we

1173
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 1: would get it done, but then at times like it

1174
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: would just get like it would seem like it was

1175
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: going pretty well and then it would just go, oh

1176
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: my god, and like you know, like I totaled the

1177
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: rental car in New Zealand trying to do donuts in

1178
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 1: the in the driveway, and and then you had to go, yeah,

1179
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: I crashed the car. Sorry. Because he's on the insurance,

1180
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: so he's like, yeah, I crashed the car. What happened?

1181
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I don't know. I lost and then

1182
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: they put us in that horrible It was like a

1183
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: Geo Metro, but we had to actually make it to

1184
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: the top of this like muddy like dirt road, you know,

1185
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: mountaintop in New Zealand, and in a tiny little car

1186
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: with the steering wheel on the other side, and like

1187
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: we would get to the top of the mountain and

1188
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: it'd all be frozen by the end of the day.

1189
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: That would turn into this deep mud and we'd just

1190
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: be like scraping the car bottom all the way down

1191
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: the mountain to get back to where we needed to go.

1192
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 1: And then you know, like you well, I was still

1193
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 1: in school, so I was doing my homework. Oh really

1194
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: you yeah, because I had to do like algebra, and

1195
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: like you were great at mass in ninth grade or

1196
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: tenth grade. Yeah, maybe like ninth or tenth. Yeah, it

1197
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 1: was around that time, and Jesse, you were responsible enough

1198
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: to say, Sean, you've got to do your algebra, Like

1199
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean, do you not see this face Like yes, no, Oliver,

1200
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: are not buying this for all the listeners I had

1201
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: an answer to. So we were more we were more

1202
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: just like mischief friends on the road. But man, it

1203
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: was it was really fun. What great memories I know,

1204
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 1: like that is that's special ship that's cool. That's really

1205
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 1: showed up in the banana costume at four am in Japan. Again,

1206
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: I don't know who we're talking about. That was like,

1207
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 1: what is happening? Don't want to talk about it. The

1208
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: great thing too about it was just like, uh, I'm

1209
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 1: like trying to just like move this along, I know,

1210
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 1: but like, uh, you know, the the truth of it

1211
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 1: was too is like I think I was. Yeah, it

1212
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: was just like a little bit more responsible and there

1213
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: was just some level of trust. But you know, I

1214
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: was still snowboarding a ton, so we could snowboard together.

1215
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: We could travel together pretty easily. I couldn't rent rental

1216
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: cars from every company, but I could rend them from

1217
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: enough comes to like get us through. And it also

1218
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: so happened that like Sean and I like could you know,

1219
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: like I could help him with his work, and we

1220
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: could I can help up with homework. Like we just

1221
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: kind of like found this thing. You filled a lot

1222
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 1: of roles at that point. You were like family for

1223
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 1: me on the road. You were also like team managers,

1224
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,759
Speaker 1: so you're like renting cars and getting to the hotel

1225
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: and being responsible. You also like were really into photography,

1226
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: so you were shooting photos of me that you were

1227
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: then like selling to magazines into back to the sponsors

1228
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 1: and you had your own like thing going there and

1229
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: then and then I was getting signature products that you know,

1230
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 1: needed design and you know, a pro model snowboard boot

1231
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: or a promodel snowboard that needed graphics and designs, and

1232
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 1: I would turn to Jesse. So he became like kind

1233
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 1: of my my go to on everything and coach because

1234
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,919
Speaker 1: you knew how to snowmore. You were incredibly talented at snowboarding,

1235
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: It's just your stronger suit wasn't competition, but you would

1236
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: sit and help me like plan the run and keep

1237
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 1: an eye of the other competitors and see what they

1238
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 1: were doing. So your role was so like involved that

1239
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 1: I just like, now thinking back about it, you were

1240
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 1: doing a lot, right, So naturally you've given him half

1241
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:17,560
Speaker 1: of your money, right of course, Sean, when did you know,

1242
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: Like when did it hit you that you were like,

1243
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 1: I can do things that I'm not seeing anybody able

1244
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: to do on these mountains. I think that all happened

1245
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: when I was when I was really young, probably like

1246
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 1: eight or something like that. I like, I like dropped

1247
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: in the vert ramp at our local YMCA, and they

1248
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,600
Speaker 1: had a skate park there, and just so happened that, like,

1249
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, just so happened that the snow Summit had

1250
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: a toe rope. Just so happens. We grew up twenty

1251
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 1: minutes from skate park that Tony Hawk would go skate. Yeah,

1252
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 1: And so just as much as I was a snowboarder

1253
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:53,759
Speaker 1: on the mountain, I come home and every single weekday

1254
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: after school, if I was either on the trampoline, I

1255
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 1: was always at the skate park. And you know, I

1256
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 1: fell in love with skating, and I realized that, like

1257
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 1: I could do things that my friends couldn't. And and

1258
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, when I was a kid, we would I

1259
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 1: had a bicycle and we all got bikes for Christmas,

1260
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: and we build a jump here and there, and then

1261
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: I would jump over a trash can or over two

1262
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 1: trash cans, and like we should line up the neighborhood kids, yep,

1263
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 1: and see how many I could jump up, and you know,

1264
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: we got to like six seven kids, and then it's

1265
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 1: like okay. But like I remember, I remember Mom and

1266
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: Dad just watching this happen, like oh yeah, he's got it.

1267
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,600
Speaker 1: So I just remember like being like I can do

1268
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: this I can do things that my friends can't and

1269
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: and complete confidence about it. So it was a young

1270
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: age that I knew that. And then at that same

1271
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: young age when I started snowboarding, I you know, had

1272
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 1: interest from sponsors. I got sponsored by Burton when I

1273
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: was around like seven years old, so I was already

1274
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: feeling somewhat special and like had a path, and then

1275
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: I just really leaned into it. And then with the

1276
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 1: guidance from Jesse and and think like when his friends

1277
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: were right with us on the mountain and himself he's

1278
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 1: seven years older, so I'm trying to learn all the

1279
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 1: tricks that they're learning, but I'm seven years younger and

1280
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 1: now I dropped to my age bracket and no wonder

1281
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 1: a lot of the kids couldn't hang with the tricks

1282
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 1: I was doing in the time. So it was definitely

1283
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 1: like an interesting how did you? How did you check?

1284
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 1: How did you check yourself? You know, I mean how

1285
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 1: did you? Cause you seem you seem like a you know,

1286
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,719
Speaker 1: I don't know you that well, but you're a pretty centered,

1287
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 1: grounded dude. Like, but when you're getting that much attention

1288
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 1: at that young of an age, does your brother check you?

1289
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: I mean, do your parents check you or does your

1290
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: head get big. I mean, did you ever have the

1291
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,679
Speaker 1: moment where like I'm the I'm the shit? Nobody really

1292
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: nobody really cared, remember that, Jesse. Yeah, we're in like

1293
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: if you were the star on the football team. You were,

1294
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: you were getting praised. You know. We were like the

1295
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: misfit family that had like a trampoline and a skate

1296
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 1: ramp in their backyard and they're getting the cops called

1297
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: on them because people are like throwing parties and stuff.

1298
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: So like we weren't really like it's I was like

1299
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 1: today known too, Like we were growing by the beach,

1300
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 1: you know, we were we weren't like what that we

1301
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: were doing in the weekends. You know, no one knew

1302
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 1: one of my friends skateboarded or snowboarded. Maybe some of

1303
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: Jesse's friends that were older and like into the scene,

1304
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: but like none of my friends. So you were like

1305
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 1: you were by thirteen, traveling the world like totally sponsored.

1306
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 1: Were you making like a good living? Oh yeah, he

1307
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 1: was like I'm the shit. I woke up. I was like,

1308
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 1: shut up, mom. Yeah. They were like only a few

1309
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: moments where I like flex the power that I I had,

1310
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: But rarely. You know, there was one trip. All I

1311
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 1: remember it is like I didn't want to drive home

1312
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: in the van and I had made I had made

1313
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: money on the trip or something, and I was just like,

1314
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 1: I want to fly home. And my mom's like, are

1315
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 1: you kidding me? And I was like, no, I want

1316
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 1: to fly home. So there are may be like two

1317
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,560
Speaker 1: or three times as a kid when that when that

1318
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 1: went down where I was like, you know what, like

1319
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: I'm tired, I'm exhausted. I just want to get home.

1320
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 1: And and they would kind of make an exception here

1321
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: and there, but for the majority I was I was

1322
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: part of the family, and in our in our community

1323
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: didn't celebrate me the way I was celebrated on the mountains.

1324
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:28,560
Speaker 1: So I had two different lives. And and then you know,

1325
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,560
Speaker 1: through success, things got different, you know, and and and

1326
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: and my my craft is obviously different than than the

1327
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 1: world of acting and things where like I literally get

1328
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 1: to stand on a podium in the first place. So

1329
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, those are very you know, those glory moments

1330
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: that you dream about and hope for and and and

1331
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: even that, though I do look back on my old

1332
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 1: contests and go, oh, this could have been better. That

1333
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: could have, you know, and and it's never as sweet

1334
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 1: as I picture in my head, and it's I think

1335
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 1: it's just like a perfection thing that you always strive

1336
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: for that you're never going to get to. But but yeah,

1337
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: they're there were those times where things really took off,

1338
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 1: and and when Jesse and I started traveling the world

1339
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 1: and you go from a van to like a hotel

1340
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 1: room of your own, and then a hotel sweet to like,

1341
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: oh hey we got like you know, the sponsor rented

1342
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 1: out the whole floor. Everybody's here. We're doing these big

1343
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: dinners and these things like we weren't allowed to order

1344
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 1: soda at the mountain, you know, growing up? You know

1345
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: how old were both of you guys when you realized that,

1346
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: like you could that like what this did for your

1347
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: girl game? Sorry you you broke up there? What I

1348
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 1: think you c I think Jesse never really had a problem. Yeah,

1349
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 1: you were a pretty smooth criminal. I had the red

1350
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: hair and the like, I don't know, I was deep

1351
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 1: in the last just like crying alone. I'd go to

1352
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 1: a hotel room and black out the windows and then

1353
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: just write a poem about it. Drew this picture of me, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1354
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:08,799
Speaker 1: I think I was. I was pretty late bloomer on everything.

1355
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,759
Speaker 1: I was. I was scared. I was intimidated by talking

1356
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: to girls and so and and the thing that I

1357
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 1: realized at one point is that like it dawned on

1358
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 1: me that they they would approach me, and so I

1359
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 1: just had to go on defense and like just talk

1360
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 1: like but but that was I don't know. I don't

1361
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,560
Speaker 1: even think I had like first kiss till I was

1362
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 1: like eighteen or something. It was late. Wow. Yeah, I

1363
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 1: was shoy. I was pretty. I was pretty, like I

1364
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 1: don't think eighteen, No, that's wrong. It was probably like

1365
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 1: I was like you were, yeah, we were. You were

1366
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 1: just like, oh wait wait wait no, would ward happened?

1367
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: That happened? Oh yeah, yeah that was that was with

1368
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 1: a gymnast. But but then it didn't. Yeah, but then

1369
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 1: it then nothing. You know, like I was too. I

1370
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 1: was too and my my, my buddy initiated that whole situation.

1371
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: So I just kind of like was I was like,

1372
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,560
Speaker 1: you're pond. I was helping him. Yeah, he had the

1373
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 1: like blonde hair and the blue eyes. He was from

1374
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, he was killing it. I was just

1375
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:13,799
Speaker 1: like his buddy, And now look at you the second

1376
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 1: Sexy Beast. Yeah, so okay, so now now you guys

1377
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 1: travel the world, and then what age did you go pro?

1378
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 1: I would pro at thirteen and then started making money

1379
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: at fourteen. That's when the first real big deal came through.

1380
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: And that's when things got very very serious. I mean

1381
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 1: I made some money here and there before that because

1382
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: my mom would drive us up to LA and I

1383
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 1: was a stunt double on a on a Disney show

1384
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: called The Jersey and I was dropping that dropping early

1385
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 1: work early. This is the only one that's on the screen. Really,

1386
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, I've done my share, but uh, you know,

1387
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: and and so I I started this like savings account,

1388
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 1: and I was familiar with like making money at the time.

1389
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: But then I got this big deal when I was fourteen.

1390
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 1: And that's when if anybody thought we were kind of crazy,

1391
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 1: We're like, you guys are crazy. We're we're really doing

1392
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 1: something special here because at that point, I had this

1393
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:21,560
Speaker 1: really bad crash with another vert skateboarder named Bob Burnquest

1394
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 1: and I broke my hand, I broke my foot, and

1395
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 1: I fractured my skull. In one gradd fourth grade, right

1396
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 1: like you were, there was an MTV Sports and music festival.

1397
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: I think I was like a ten or eleven years

1398
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 1: old shame. And my mom was just you know, they're devastating, like,

1399
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 1: oh my god, how could this happen? And we were

1400
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 1: doing a doubles routine on the ramp, which isn't something

1401
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,719
Speaker 1: you normally do, and we got confused on our routine

1402
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 1: and we crashed. And so I get home and I

1403
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 1: got a cast on my arm and my leg and

1404
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: the fracture of my skull put a human tone on

1405
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,679
Speaker 1: my forehead and the blood running around my forehead drained

1406
01:18:56,720 --> 01:19:00,600
Speaker 1: in my eyes, so these giant, bloodshot black eyes. And

1407
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: I pull up to school and the teacher just sees

1408
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 1: me and starts crying at the side of me because

1409
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 1: I look like I got in a car accident or something,

1410
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 1: and which is very similar and uh. And I get

1411
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,560
Speaker 1: in the classroom and looking at everybody, and I'm like,

1412
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 1: why is everybody so dressed up? My buddy's hair was

1413
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 1: all combed and parted, and I had a collared shirt on.

1414
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: It was picture day. I had no idea my so

1415
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 1: like in the corner of the class woass camel Carmel

1416
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 1: Valley Elementary School, like photo and it's an amazing picture.

1417
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 1: But oh dude. But but the community kind of turned

1418
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 1: on us slightly at that time because they're like, you're

1419
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 1: letting your cardiac kid do these dangerous sports. Look at him,

1420
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 1: just look at what happened. Look what your your parenting

1421
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 1: got you. And and it was like fun and games

1422
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 1: until that happened. And that's when we kind of we

1423
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: got closer as a family because we knew what we

1424
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 1: were doing was really special. We knew that was like

1425
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 1: an isolated incident and and you know, we took necessary

1426
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 1: precautions to be safe if I was wear a helmet

1427
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: and I was riding, you know, within my abilities and stuff,

1428
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: and they didn't push me. And so anyways, but it

1429
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 1: became more difficult to you know, be you know, we

1430
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 1: didn't celebrat it this much. It wasn't celebrated. It was

1431
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 1: definitely like a battle. We had to battle the school district.

1432
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: And my parents never felt like they fit in at

1433
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,719
Speaker 1: the PTA meetings and stuff, and we were like really

1434
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,640
Speaker 1: involved in the community. My mom would go to all

1435
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 1: the meetings and stuff, and and so then like the

1436
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 1: dynamic definitely changed in our neighborhood at that point. But

1437
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 1: you guys became a stronger unit. It sounds like, right, oh,

1438
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 1: for sure, that's the family really like like, oh, well,

1439
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: if you guys are going to be against us, then

1440
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 1: we don't really need you, We just need us. Yeah. Yeah,

1441
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 1: And there's like there's such a culture around the Well

1442
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 1: what about the gold medal, dude, I mean, was that

1443
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: is that number one? I mean, there's so many number ones,

1444
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure, but yeah, that one. Man. I was nineteen

1445
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 1: two thousand and six, I won. I won the gold

1446
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 1: in Torino for the half pipe and it was nuts.

1447
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean that that was the moment that really like

1448
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:05,560
Speaker 1: shines in my memory as the biggest kind of like

1449
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 1: hurdle we cleared as a family, you know, and that's

1450
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:09,719
Speaker 1: what it meant to me. I got to the bottom

1451
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 1: of crying and my whole family's crying, and it just

1452
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 1: dawned on me that the like the teachers that were

1453
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 1: like screaming at my parents for having me missed school

1454
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:24,560
Speaker 1: at times, and the you know the countless hour you know,

1455
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 1: hours spend on the mountain and missing you know, my

1456
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 1: sister loved snowboarding, but stopped at a certain point, and

1457
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:32,640
Speaker 1: then they had to kind of divide the family of

1458
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 1: like who's going to go with Shawn up to the mountain,

1459
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 1: and who's going to go to the soccer game? Or

1460
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 1: we even going to go to the soccer game? Can

1461
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: she catch a ride with her friend? You know, it

1462
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:42,560
Speaker 1: became what's the priority and so much sacrifice, but not

1463
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: only myself but every member my family. And at that

1464
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 1: time when I won, it was like, man, I didn't

1465
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: win like we won. We did it. We won like

1466
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 1: this crazy sport that everybody mocked us, and everybody's said

1467
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 1: it wasn't going to be anything. And you know, I'm

1468
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 1: Olympical medalists, and and my mom said something to me.

1469
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 1: She's like, you you will forever be introduced as Sean White,

1470
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 1: the gold medalists, and forever that that title will follow you.

1471
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:13,600
Speaker 1: And I didn't really understand how big the Olympics was,

1472
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 1: thank god, because I've been terrified until afterward, you know.

1473
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 1: And uh so that was an amazing moment for the

1474
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 1: whole family. I felt like, wow, man, because that's Jesse. Yeah, yeah,

1475
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: that everybody's so crazy. You know, I hoped out for

1476
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,520
Speaker 1: that one. I want to hear it, Jesse from your perspective,

1477
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 1: what was that like for you watching him achieve that

1478
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 1: it was a trip. I mean, so you know the

1479
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 1: same feelings, like we as a unit were all there.

1480
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,560
Speaker 1: I was there, our parents were up in the bleachers,

1481
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 1: Like we have this communications system, so I would look

1482
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 1: at them, I'd give them the like the nod and

1483
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 1: then you know, me knowing Sean so while and knowing

1484
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 1: how the snowboards, you know, I was like there and

1485
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 1: I knew how he was going to do. And so

1486
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: we had this whole moment where you know, Sean had

1487
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 1: come down, our parents like in the bleachers, rushed through

1488
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 1: security like hop the fan. You know, it's a bunch

1489
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 1: of Italians and like no, and like our parents are

1490
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 1: just out of the way, jump out. They hop over

1491
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 1: the fence and we're all like there, and it became

1492
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:20,640
Speaker 1: you know, Sean, we haven't even really talked about it

1493
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: from from my perspective, but like, yeah, again, it was

1494
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:25,560
Speaker 1: almost like we were back in the band, Like it

1495
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: was just us and it was it was really special.

1496
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 1: Like those are just some of those memories that we

1497
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 1: all have and they own something differently, but around that

1498
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 1: one moment, yeah, it was. It was great. It's amazing.

1499
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 1: I got the chills. I'm tearing up my nipples got hard.

1500
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,599
Speaker 1: That's when I know. That's when I know that this story,

1501
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 1: that's when I know. Classic story we tell and it's

1502
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 1: crazy when both of Oliver's nipples get yeah, usually fell

1503
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 1: far apart. It's usually just one wow wow. I love

1504
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 1: that stuff so much. But Jesse, from your perspective actually,

1505
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 1: because you know, when Sean says this was a collective win,

1506
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 1: and you hear that a lot from athletes, but when

1507
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Sean right now, it feels like that's real,

1508
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 1: Like those that really is flooding your mind. It's not

1509
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 1: just sort of hyperbole, right, this is really happening to you.

1510
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 1: On the flip side of that, though, Jesse, did you

1511
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: feel like this was part of your win as well?

1512
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: I mean, oh yeah, like the you know, Sean Sean

1513
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 1: kind of talked about a little bit, but like us

1514
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 1: growing up and doing these sports, like there was definitely

1515
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 1: moments where like the neighborhood shuns you, like everybody just

1516
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: tells you you're crazy. And that wasn't just a Sean.

1517
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: That was all of us. That was like our parents

1518
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 1: walking around and other parents being like, you know, there

1519
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 1: they are like this was this was probably Hi. Yeah, again,

1520
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 1: you know there was money, but it wasn't like understood,

1521
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 1: like it wasn't mainstream these sports like how they are today.

1522
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,679
Speaker 1: You know, there's no Taco about the was at that time,

1523
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: and so uh that's it made it Taco bell money,

1524
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 1: the double Decker money, Taco money. Yeah, and so yeah,

1525
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 1: it definitely meant the same to all of us. I think,

1526
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 1: I think, I though Sean has the metal, like I

1527
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: think we all shared. But you you, you were doing

1528
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 1: all the all the all the you know, the you

1529
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 1: know at this point now there's like multiple signature lines

1530
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 1: and products and like in majority, you know, at least

1531
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 1: you know, four out of the five were past selling lines,

1532
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, and Jesse was doing all of that. So

1533
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 1: like it was just a success on many levels. And

1534
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 1: then and then you were you know, you're you're technically

1535
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 1: were my coach at the time. Do you remember when

1536
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 1: I almost blew it? I fell in my qualifying run,

1537
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: and I remember not being nervous, like, oh noil the

1538
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 1: next one, and you came up and you're like what

1539
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 1: are you doing? Oh my god? Only I was like

1540
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 1: I got it. And then and then you're like, well

1541
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 1: you better like get up there, and I was like

1542
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 1: and then I got on the chair and I was like,

1543
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 1: holy ship, he's right. What if I drag a hand

1544
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 1: or something like this? This would because at this point

1545
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 1: I've aced every single I won every single qualifying event

1546
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 1: up to the Olympics, and I'm like favorited to win.

1547
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 1: It's all teed up, and I was like, wow, I

1548
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 1: let this idea of like, wow, what if I blow it?

1549
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 1: Right now? I remember that, I remembering in my head

1550
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:27,719
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god. And I luckily

1551
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 1: pulled through and and and it all worked out for

1552
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,560
Speaker 1: the best and I won. But yeah, man, like just

1553
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 1: the just the family has always been such a huge

1554
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: part of my life, and we're still such a close group.

1555
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 1: And it's all because it's nowhere, you know. And I

1556
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 1: think my mom, you know, her, her endless bragging finally

1557
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 1: had its its moment, you know, because she she could

1558
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 1: not not tell anybody that I would I won the goal,

1559
01:26:56,120 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 1: right Pete the ups guys dropping off the box, Oh

1560
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: it's okay. It must be something from my son who

1561
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 1: won the goals. She'd get the steaks for like half price.

1562
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my son who's an Olympic gold medal. He

1563
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 1: gave us this rabbi for you know, like because I

1564
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: told them you won the goal. She really likes the

1565
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 1: angles to getst the deals. It's pretty good. And so

1566
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 1: her bragging finally came in, and well not finally. She

1567
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 1: she's just that old school like she just gets along

1568
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 1: and goes and talks to people at it. You know,

1569
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 1: it's in this day and age we like send the

1570
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 1: message and kind of maybe meet up never. And so

1571
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 1: she she's just that personality type. And so she was

1572
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 1: out bragging after after the games in Torino and bought

1573
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 1: this like jacket, Like this jacket, I can't believe it's

1574
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 1: three hundred dollars so expensive. Is ridiculous, like complaining, and

1575
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 1: and she's like, but I guess I have to buy

1576
01:27:56,479 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 1: it because my son won the goals this and she

1577
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: brags to this guy and the guy's like, oh, who's

1578
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: your son, and she's like, gos Sean White, you know.

1579
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 1: And it turned out to be a guy named Charlie

1580
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 1: Eversall who who his father, Dick Everet just he's the

1581
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 1: man out of nowhere. She comes back, she's like, I

1582
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 1: got us a flight on the NBC jet to go home.

1583
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you talking about? She said, I

1584
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: met this guy Charlie something, and like his dad's like

1585
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 1: a pretty big deal at the game. So like we're

1586
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:29,720
Speaker 1: gonna go home with them, and so we ended I'm

1587
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,839
Speaker 1: like really like because we actually got to the Olympics

1588
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 1: and never thought of booking flights home and so we're

1589
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 1: like there's no flights, Like, how are we getting out

1590
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 1: of here? And and so that's how how I ended

1591
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 1: up mad eversall family and we all went on the

1592
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 1: plane home together with them. So her bragging really got us.

1593
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 1: It did. Hey, would you would you? Would you say

1594
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:55,480
Speaker 1: your worst fall on the snowboard, at least in competition?

1595
01:28:55,840 --> 01:29:00,600
Speaker 1: Was that face plant you did? I mean it was

1596
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 1: the most It looked gnarly as hell. I mean that

1597
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 1: was that almost it was. It was pretty. It wasn't

1598
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 1: the most painful, but it was the most like mentally

1599
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 1: scarring and jarring thing because it's my face. I'm like

1600
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:15,760
Speaker 1: looking in the mirror going, oh my god, what did

1601
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,560
Speaker 1: I do? Like I can take a beating and have

1602
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: bruises on my side, you know, like something like that.

1603
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 1: But when you look in the mirror, if you break something,

1604
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 1: it's like unless it's a compound, you know, it's not

1605
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 1: like a bone sticking out and you're looking at it going,

1606
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:32,759
Speaker 1: oh my god, you know, have you had no? Thankfully?

1607
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 1: You know I'm pretty You're pretty lucky, dude. I've made

1608
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 1: a whole her out of like being real lucky in

1609
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 1: my falls and not knocking. Yeah, for sure. And superstitious.

1610
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 1: Do you have and do you guys have any like

1611
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 1: you know you don't wear certain socks or you have

1612
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 1: to wear certain socks or did you have any Jess Well,

1613
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 1: I read in my notes that you guys do like

1614
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 1: a little kiss like on the lips before oh just

1615
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 1: becaides a kiss. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just the kids. Yeah,

1616
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 1: I mean I was gonna get there than you like,

1617
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 1: love you bro, love you bro for a while, Like yeah, Sean,

1618
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:22,599
Speaker 1: you were into the stakes for a while. I remember

1619
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:26,759
Speaker 1: that mine mine. I didn't have them until moms started

1620
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 1: doing weird stuff and then she superstitious. I got superstitious,

1621
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 1: and so like I'd come back to the room and

1622
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 1: like all of my stuff is like out of the

1623
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 1: closet and my bag is like completely packed, and I'm like, man,

1624
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 1: they like room services, they're really going the extra line

1625
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 1: or they want me out, like I don't know what's up,

1626
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 1: and and it happened again and again, and I was like,

1627
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 1: what's going on? And my Mom's like, oh, sorry, Like

1628
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 1: I sneak into your room and I fold up all

1629
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 1: your clothes and pack your entire bag so that you

1630
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 1: won't get injured and you'll be safe on the mountain

1631
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:59,680
Speaker 1: and you'll win. And I was like what, But I

1632
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:03,320
Speaker 1: won the last three events, so now I'm now I

1633
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 1: got to pack my whole bag up before I can

1634
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 1: go ride, Like, oh my god. So like I had

1635
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 1: like favorite shirts, I had to pack my bag up,

1636
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 1: or like for a while, I'd had to like I

1637
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 1: had to get in the bathtub and I had to

1638
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 1: like write out my run on the on the hotel

1639
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 1: stationery and then save it in order for the like

1640
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:25,759
Speaker 1: the run to come true or like just little weird things,

1641
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, but nothing, nothing too bizarre. And then like

1642
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:32,720
Speaker 1: someone told us like, yeah, it's it's the best thing

1643
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:34,719
Speaker 1: in the world to have a have a steak before

1644
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 1: you compete, and I was like really, So we tried

1645
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 1: it and I won the next day. So that just

1646
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:43,640
Speaker 1: became this thing of like, oh, I have to have

1647
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 1: some sort of like steak or something the not yet

1648
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: just the night before, and oddly enough I didn't I

1649
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 1: didn't have one in Russia when I lost. So ah,

1650
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 1: I blame this blameless stake. Jesse, you're a brand what

1651
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 1: do it You're a brand director? Yeah, yeah, So long

1652
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:09,599
Speaker 1: weird journey, but started really with Sean, like moving when

1653
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:12,639
Speaker 1: Sean got the opportunity to have like a clothing line.

1654
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 1: You know, it's just something that we naturally, like I

1655
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 1: was able to pick up and so really just was

1656
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:23,600
Speaker 1: fortunate how you know, how Sean had that place of

1657
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 1: growing up with snow Summit and we had that whole story.

1658
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:29,640
Speaker 1: For me, there was some similarities as well. Working with

1659
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 1: Burton Snowboards at the time was like such a great

1660
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 1: opportunity to also like learn how to design clothing, and

1661
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:40,880
Speaker 1: so took that and started drawing and then making something.

1662
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 1: So we made a boot and that did really well.

1663
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 1: In mind, you have like teaching myself all of this,

1664
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:47,560
Speaker 1: it's like how to design for dummies. So it was

1665
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 1: just like real haphazard and like just who and so

1666
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 1: ultimately like kind of got a little bit better at that,

1667
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:59,320
Speaker 1: and you know, that's just been my passion. That's just

1668
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 1: been where you had great ideas about everything I mean,

1669
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:06,639
Speaker 1: like when so when he says boot, like they were like, hey,

1670
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 1: we want to do a Sean White series Pro model

1671
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 1: snowboard boot. Like that's cool, but like what's it going

1672
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 1: to look like? And I'm like Jesse helped me, and

1673
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:18,679
Speaker 1: he's like, okay, well, like I've been seeing these things

1674
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 1: in these like high fashion magazines, like Chanelle had this

1675
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 1: like quilted puff sort of print that they were using

1676
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:26,680
Speaker 1: on their bags. He's like, what if we took this,

1677
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 1: did something similar and put it on like the panels

1678
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 1: of the boot, and like the thing like sold out

1679
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:35,560
Speaker 1: within minutes at the trade show, and it became this

1680
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 1: that we re released it, it sold out again and

1681
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:39,559
Speaker 1: then they're like, let's try a home and he had

1682
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 1: these really cool drawings that he did for the helmet

1683
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:44,679
Speaker 1: and then and then it kind of went from there.

1684
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 1: But as things grew, you know, I was getting you know,

1685
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 1: with success, we got more items and eventually clothing outerwear

1686
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:54,719
Speaker 1: line with Burton, and then from there it got deeper.

1687
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 1: Remember when like I mean we started going like you

1688
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 1: know what, like your ads are all right, but like

1689
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,679
Speaker 1: we to I started getting in my contracts like control

1690
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 1: over the visuals and and in the way I'm used

1691
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:09,960
Speaker 1: in the in the ads, and and then suggesting from

1692
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 1: from the beginning we were doing not only were you

1693
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:14,600
Speaker 1: shooting the photos, then we were like coming up with

1694
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 1: the ad concepts and the product development and every single

1695
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 1: thing in between. So that was like the early stages

1696
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:24,680
Speaker 1: of us, like and myself as well, like learning to

1697
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 1: design and learning how you know samples get made in

1698
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 1: the process of the whole thing. Yeah, but you know,

1699
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 1: you you always amaze me because like I would get

1700
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:37,679
Speaker 1: stumped all the time. But he was just this fountain

1701
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 1: of new ideas. And I think we were like we

1702
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 1: were so young, you know, like we're like too young

1703
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:46,799
Speaker 1: not to know any better, which is like that awesome

1704
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 1: place to be. And I think we just always had that, like,

1705
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:53,720
Speaker 1: you know, there was the way to do things, and

1706
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:56,560
Speaker 1: then there's a way to like not do things. But

1707
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 1: that way really never made sense anyways. You know, It's

1708
01:34:59,920 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 1: like why would I not do that, like just because

1709
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 1: you said so, you know, I think that was also

1710
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:07,680
Speaker 1: half the fun. And I mean, Sean, we both still are,

1711
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, to a degree like this a lot actually,

1712
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 1: and so you know, we would we would just take

1713
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:15,759
Speaker 1: that opportunity to We're like like just mess with everybody

1714
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 1: like it was a great time. Yeah, and like no parents,

1715
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 1: no rules, just kind of like the ability to create

1716
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 1: those those fun Were you guys the first to wear

1717
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:29,240
Speaker 1: like the skin tight snowboard parts? Were you? Did you

1718
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:33,640
Speaker 1: bust that out first? That was me? Yeah at X

1719
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 1: games at one point. And these questions, these are great questions.

1720
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 1: So the way, the way that that happened was the

1721
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 1: real story is that we put like at that point,

1722
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 1: we had all these designs and some of them like

1723
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 1: skewed more, you know, to like, hey, this is really

1724
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:53,680
Speaker 1: great design, but it's not really for the line. And

1725
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 1: we had all these stockpiled designs. And with with all

1726
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 1: this success and a lot of a lot of females

1727
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:01,760
Speaker 1: are actually I mean, you know, women were buying the

1728
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:05,040
Speaker 1: buying my promodel board in the smaller sizes because I

1729
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:07,679
Speaker 1: had a lot of fans, and they're like, why don't

1730
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 1: we come out with a women's line as well? So

1731
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 1: there was the men's and women's line, and then with

1732
01:36:12,479 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 1: the women's line came like these like tighter, stretchier pants.

1733
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 1: And at one point we were joking around, I had

1734
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 1: the idea I was like I should come out as

1735
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 1: Shauna or or Rocks whatever ideas. We had a lot

1736
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 1: of ideas and like, we should make up this character

1737
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 1: and she's because I had no way to promote the

1738
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 1: line because I didn't wear the women's stuff, and so

1739
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 1: I was like, why don't we come up with this character.

1740
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 1: It's just this young, this ripping girl, and no one's

1741
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:43,600
Speaker 1: ever seen or heard of her, seen her face, but

1742
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 1: she kills it and she and I put on all

1743
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 1: the women's clothing and uh, and when I did, I

1744
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 1: was like, man, these pants are actually like these are

1745
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 1: pretty nice. Yeah, these are pretty good. And uh, we

1746
01:36:57,360 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 1: had like a leather jacket in the men's line. I

1747
01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:02,599
Speaker 1: was like, dude, I should go tight pants leather jacket

1748
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 1: to the next event. And I was like nope, nope, yeah,

1749
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 1: I don't do it. I was really into rock and roll.

1750
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 1: I'd won a guitar at X Games. I got really

1751
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:15,640
Speaker 1: into playing guitar and rock music, and like all my

1752
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 1: heroes wore like tight jeans and the whole deal. So

1753
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 1: my off hill prosana didn't really meet my on hill

1754
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:24,599
Speaker 1: until that point. So I had like the long hair,

1755
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 1: I played guitar, and I like snowboarded in what I

1756
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 1: wore off the mountain. So that's that's how that kind

1757
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:34,720
Speaker 1: of came about. So if Jesse was in his room

1758
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 1: listening to Elliott Smith and Death Cab for Cutie, who

1759
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 1: were you listening to? Oh my god, I was in

1760
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 1: love with led Zeppelin, So you were like classic rock? Yeah? Yeah,

1761
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 1: like everything that my dad listened to in the car

1762
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 1: that I just didn't get. I was like, what is

1763
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:52,680
Speaker 1: I don't get it? You know, I didn't really dig

1764
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 1: music until I played guitar at like around sixteen, and

1765
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 1: the only introduction to music I had was like, you know,

1766
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:02,600
Speaker 1: movies like Grease and the Blues Brothers and stuff, and

1767
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:16,960
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's so you play, but you still play.

1768
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 1: You're really passionate about music. I do. Yeah, I love

1769
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 1: I love playing guitar. And it's it's been one of

1770
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 1: those things like it's kind of like speaking the language.

1771
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 1: You know, you can go play with other people and

1772
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 1: what kind of you know, like what kind of guitar

1773
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:31,160
Speaker 1: do you use? That kind of determines what kind of

1774
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:33,599
Speaker 1: style of music you're probably into, and what are your

1775
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 1: passions and stuff and and so that on the on

1776
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 1: this on this lie, like that's what was driving everything though,

1777
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:40,600
Speaker 1: even in the designs, I mean, Jesse, you'd be like,

1778
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 1: what bands are we into right now? Like what are

1779
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 1: they doing and and how can we like add that

1780
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 1: into the designs of the clothing that we're making, or

1781
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 1: the style of ad that we're doing, or things that

1782
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 1: kind of like go along with my lifestyle and stuff

1783
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:55,599
Speaker 1: that we're into. So that was like a big source

1784
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 1: of inspiration for everything. What about the younger snowboarders. Are

1785
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 1: there any that you look at and go, Okay, well

1786
01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:04,600
Speaker 1: that's the guy that's the guy to be now or

1787
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 1: are you still the guy to be? It's really strange.

1788
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's like ever since I've been in this,

1789
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 1: you know, pro and the sports, since it's like thirteen,

1790
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 1: it's just been a changing of the guard. There's always

1791
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:18,280
Speaker 1: like somebody new that kind of comes in and they

1792
01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 1: either like take the spotlight for a minute and then

1793
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:24,000
Speaker 1: seem to have trouble holding it, or you know, there's

1794
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 1: a lot of things that go on just in life

1795
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 1: in general that like pull your attention or you're on

1796
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:31,360
Speaker 1: the streak and you finally got the limelight. But with

1797
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 1: the limelight comes like sponsorship, and with sponsorship comes you know,

1798
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 1: obligations to do shoots and an expectation to win, and

1799
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 1: there's so many factors and things that like can weigh

1800
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:44,720
Speaker 1: on somebody that like, you know, say you were the

1801
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 1: like go lucky guy, like I hope I win and

1802
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 1: you don't have a care in the world, and you're like, cool,

1803
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. And you start winning and it's great,

1804
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, there's this expectation to

1805
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 1: win and you're not used to that, like it can

1806
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 1: crumble you. And then and then you start that slow

1807
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 1: decay of like losing an event and you're like, oh, whatever,

1808
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:03,559
Speaker 1: maybe that was a one off, and then you lose

1809
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 1: the next one. Your sponsors are like, wait a minute,

1810
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:07,120
Speaker 1: was this the right guy? You know, just a lot

1811
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 1: can happen, and or you start making money and you

1812
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:13,320
Speaker 1: start partying. I mean, there's a lot of Unfortunately, those

1813
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 1: are side effects of what can happen with you know,

1814
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 1: certain fame, and I'm sure in many different professions you

1815
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 1: see maybe somebody snag a big role and they're like, dude,

1816
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:26,880
Speaker 1: I made it. I'm a superhero in this movie, and

1817
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 1: you're like, Jesse, why do you think, why do you

1818
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 1: think Sean is sustained? Like from your perspective, how has

1819
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:39,880
Speaker 1: he remained It's funny as Sean, as you were talking

1820
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 1: about the skateboarding. I think it's because like Sean's a planner,

1821
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:45,200
Speaker 1: Like whether you want to admit it or not, Like

1822
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:49,519
Speaker 1: he's just like a real planner, sets the goals. You know.

1823
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 1: He had talked about early when he was young and

1824
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:54,640
Speaker 1: writing out his runs, and Sean, I remember doing that

1825
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:56,800
Speaker 1: with you, you know, like we would sit there and

1826
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:00,200
Speaker 1: you would write it out and then practice and like

1827
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 1: that would be it. And it's always about like always

1828
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 1: including a new trick and always thinking about like the

1829
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:10,519
Speaker 1: future and yeah, yeah, and and that's like, you know,

1830
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:12,640
Speaker 1: that's not like a common you know, I think a

1831
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 1: lot of people plan, but then they they have a

1832
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 1: hard time following through. You know a lot of people

1833
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 1: like pick up a language and then kind of like

1834
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 1: quit halfway through. And I think Sean, one of your

1835
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:23,519
Speaker 1: your superpowers, for real is is just that ability to

1836
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 1: like grind it out and uh like really put in

1837
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 1: the work. And so I mean Sean's had a pretty

1838
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 1: long career at this point. You know, I think there's

1839
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 1: been i mean a couple of waves of like new

1840
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 1: kids coming through and Sean, You've you've really competed against

1841
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 1: everybody at this point. Yeah, it was. It was very

1842
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 1: unnerving this last time around because they were like, I'm

1843
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:48,280
Speaker 1: so used to showing up at events and they're like

1844
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 1: the youngest competitor. Sean White's coming in and they're like

1845
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 1: the oldest competitor. Like I was like okay, and like

1846
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm at the Olympics and and uh, you know,

1847
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 1: I get off the chair and there's this guy that

1848
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 1: I used to compete with, and he kind of like,

1849
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:08,519
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, what's up. He's like, oh, I'm here.

1850
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 1: I'm a coach. Now I do this for this team.

1851
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 1: Been doing that for a couple of years. I got

1852
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 1: a kid, and I, you know, I was like, oh wow,

1853
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:16,280
Speaker 1: he's like what are you doing. I was like, I

1854
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 1: kind of look at my bid. I was like, I'm

1855
01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 1: still at it. I'm still giving it, you know. You know,

1856
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:26,679
Speaker 1: I guess, and I guess. It's the perfect lead into

1857
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, when when does it? When do you feel

1858
01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 1: like it might be over? And what what might be

1859
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:38,640
Speaker 1: next for the two of you's. You know, Yeah, I

1860
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:42,360
Speaker 1: mean I'm so pumped for Jesse's next chapter. I mean,

1861
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:50,640
Speaker 1: Newborn baby boy, Teddy the team money. He's awesome. I

1862
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 1: just I just I love being an uncle. I'm so

1863
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:57,679
Speaker 1: pumped at at having the family grow, and it's making

1864
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 1: me very I never really thought of, like in my

1865
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:06,320
Speaker 1: wildest wanting to have kids and now having my siblings.

1866
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:08,680
Speaker 1: My sister as well just had a baby girl, and

1867
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 1: it's just so awesome. It's just so so great to

1868
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 1: have the family round, giving you a little itch or

1869
01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:18,720
Speaker 1: a little like a little moment and like, Okay, I

1870
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 1: do want to look family at some point, and I

1871
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 1: feel like I'm jealous a little bit because I I

1872
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 1: feel left out a little. Like there was the there

1873
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 1: was this you know, like do you have the favoritism

1874
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:32,760
Speaker 1: in the family where like all of a sudden, like

1875
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:34,799
Speaker 1: my sister Kerrie and I would be like really close,

1876
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:37,000
Speaker 1: and then Jesse and I started traveling together. We were close,

1877
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 1: and she was left out, and then all of a sudden,

1878
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:41,680
Speaker 1: like Jesse went off to do this, and and and

1879
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:45,160
Speaker 1: and then we're back together doing our you know, like

1880
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:46,880
Speaker 1: we we kind of had these clicks and things, and

1881
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:50,280
Speaker 1: now like they're together with their kids and talking about like, oh, well,

1882
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 1: you know, soccer season's coming up. Yeah, Like like Oh yeah,

1883
01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 1: you got the Jumpy Castle. We got this a week

1884
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:04,160
Speaker 1: at the Jope Cast we went Spring Spring Turtle, Springboard Turtle,

1885
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 1: and I'm just sitting there like, I don't know. I

1886
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:12,800
Speaker 1: had like I felt like I connected with you guys once. Yeah.

1887
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 1: I just like I've already been yelled at by my

1888
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 1: sister like three or four times. Jesse's thankfully never done it.

1889
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:22,400
Speaker 1: But she's like, you don't understand because you don't have kids.

1890
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:27,600
Speaker 1: She has not four times already, Like you get it.

1891
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 1: They have to sleep at this time or it's the

1892
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:34,479
Speaker 1: world's over. I was like, like, oh my god, Like

1893
01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 1: can I watch Jack Ryan in the living room? That

1894
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:41,600
Speaker 1: baby makes up? It's just like it's the last episode.

1895
01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:47,040
Speaker 1: What's he gonna do, What's gonna happen. So it's definitely

1896
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 1: been wild, I mean for me competitively, like I don't know,

1897
01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm kind of like taking it one day

1898
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:56,720
Speaker 1: at a time. And and honestly, this spring I was

1899
01:44:56,960 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 1: planning on I mean, just like everybody else's plans. It

1900
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:03,439
Speaker 1: kind of yeah, with all this craziness, and I'm thankful

1901
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 1: to have my health and my family's health, but you know,

1902
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 1: I was planning on going in deep and doing a

1903
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:11,519
Speaker 1: lot of spring riding and seeing where that would put

1904
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:15,559
Speaker 1: me in contention to ride next season. So I'll definitely

1905
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 1: be dipping a toe next season, I think in possibly

1906
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:20,640
Speaker 1: some events. I just kind of have to see how

1907
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 1: everything plays out in the world and where we end up.

1908
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:25,759
Speaker 1: You know. So skating is not not really the focal

1909
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 1: point anymore. Snowbody definitely is. And I think I'm just

1910
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 1: like a happier guy right now, Like I love the

1911
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 1: family vibes. I think a lot of pressures taken off

1912
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:38,759
Speaker 1: me with this last Olympic win and now like just enjoying.

1913
01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 1: You know, I'm in my thirties and I'm just like

1914
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 1: really enjoying everything. I'm not so stressed and I'm loving

1915
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 1: this kind of moment in my life. So it's been great.

1916
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 1: All let's do the speed round, oh Man, one word

1917
01:45:52,400 --> 01:46:02,320
Speaker 1: to describe the other go Jesse Redhead read super I

1918
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:08,200
Speaker 1: would creative. Yeah, yeah, I think you're incredibly creative. When

1919
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 1: I think of you, I think of like, oh, that

1920
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:17,600
Speaker 1: guy's got ideas. That guy is he's drawing things and

1921
01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 1: only pastels like he's doing He's up to something. Yeah,

1922
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:36,320
Speaker 1: I mean for you, Sean, like I mean really speed

1923
01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:41,800
Speaker 1: round right, slow round? I mean honestly, like I just

1924
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 1: I don't really have it where I just feel like

1925
01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:46,680
Speaker 1: it's just like loving, Like I just see how much

1926
01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 1: you give to to like the people around you and

1927
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:52,599
Speaker 1: then also to our family, Like how much time you spend,

1928
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 1: you know, thinking about thinking about everyone that's close to you,

1929
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 1: And like I see how you are with Teddy and

1930
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:03,800
Speaker 1: with Charlie and our parents, and and I would like

1931
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:06,360
Speaker 1: you have a huge heart. And so I'm going to

1932
01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 1: lean into that one. Who's who's funnier? Oh, Sean? Am I?

1933
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 1: I mean I'm crazier? Am I funnier? Though you're pretty

1934
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 1: You got the rep. You've got like just a long

1935
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:26,479
Speaker 1: repertoire of like movie quotes and like the you got it,

1936
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:29,920
Speaker 1: you got like a solid list. I will say it's

1937
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:33,120
Speaker 1: a close tie, though, I would say if I'm winning,

1938
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 1: it's by a little Yeah. Who got in the most

1939
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:44,360
Speaker 1: trouble as a kid? I mean legal trouble? Yeah, redhead Sean. Yeah,

1940
01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:49,720
Speaker 1: the carre extinguisher, the pulling the e break on the

1941
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:54,519
Speaker 1: icy road, was driving, Yeah, that was a solid call.

1942
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:58,160
Speaker 1: He had to dig the car out with the snowboard

1943
01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 1: that I won in Sean. Why why why did you

1944
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 1: pull the e break? Sean? Why why would you do that?

1945
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 1: Why did you pull the e brake? Because we rented.

1946
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:10,840
Speaker 1: We rented all those Saturns because they'd only rent you,

1947
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:12,880
Speaker 1: they'd only give you. They wouldn't give you anything four

1948
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:15,560
Speaker 1: wheel drive because you weren't old enough and you have

1949
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:17,360
Speaker 1: to be like twenty five, should rent a car, like

1950
01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:19,640
Speaker 1: and get a nice car. So we get these like

1951
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:22,040
Speaker 1: not that Saturns. Not it was a wonderful car, but

1952
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:25,160
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't like a four wheel drive truck

1953
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 1: or something. And and they had the e break and

1954
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 1: Jesse's like ripping around, you know, like he's like, I

1955
01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 1: lived in Tahoe. Check this out. We'd like Tokyo drift

1956
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:38,519
Speaker 1: every corner. And so like I just think, like, oh cool,

1957
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:41,800
Speaker 1: Like my dad's gonna love this. And I pulled the

1958
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 1: e brake on him and he's like, oh my mother

1959
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:50,600
Speaker 1: of God, sliding into a ditch. I'm like, yeah, like

1960
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:56,800
Speaker 1: this is awesome. It's like what the hell, Oh my god,

1961
01:48:57,320 --> 01:49:00,840
Speaker 1: who's the better surfer? I mean, think you surf as

1962
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:04,439
Speaker 1: much as I do. Yeah, but I'm naturally talented. Naturally

1963
01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 1: It's more like a man but yeah, so there is

1964
01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:14,720
Speaker 1: that as well. I think we're similar. I think out

1965
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:19,080
Speaker 1: of all my board sports, I'm maybe the least talented

1966
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 1: on a surfboard, but I can I feel like I

1967
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:24,639
Speaker 1: can handle my own. Still, yeah, we still I think

1968
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:26,800
Speaker 1: we still got it. I mean, well, you may have

1969
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:28,800
Speaker 1: ping pong, I think I have. I think I have

1970
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 1: who's more competitive? You to make sure? I mean that

1971
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:38,000
Speaker 1: is like, uh, you don't play game. We don't play

1972
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:42,680
Speaker 1: board games, like we stopped that years ago. Yeah, you

1973
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 1: like clear a room. You're one of those who like,

1974
01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:48,360
Speaker 1: oh he's one of those annoying but also you got

1975
01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:51,519
Speaker 1: to know, like our dad is actually the worst. Like

1976
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 1: Roge would hold a grudge, like you'll get over it

1977
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:57,200
Speaker 1: after a day, but Roger would be like, we just

1978
01:49:57,280 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 1: turn it into fuel for the next time. How about

1979
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:04,720
Speaker 1: first celebrity crushed? Remember first Dora the Explorers? Yeah, where

1980
01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 1: were you? Obviably Pokemon Fine Cartoons, count Cartoon. Yeah, of course,

1981
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:13,240
Speaker 1: Jessica Rabbit. Wasn't it like who is it from? From

1982
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:18,360
Speaker 1: clueless like Alicia Silverstone? Yeah, that was that was like

1983
01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 1: actually we could go doubles on that. I mean, as

1984
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 1: odd as it sounds, that was probably mine as well.

1985
01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:26,200
Speaker 1: I like she had those Arrowsmith music videos. Yeah, crazy,

1986
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:30,560
Speaker 1: I like that. And then what was your first like

1987
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:36,000
Speaker 1: real crush, real crush? Oh man uh I. I was

1988
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:39,400
Speaker 1: like head over heels for this, like Australian snowboarder girl.

1989
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:44,799
Speaker 1: She like showed up on the scene out of nowhere,

1990
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:50,439
Speaker 1: like beautiful blonde and blue blue eyes, and and I

1991
01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:53,960
Speaker 1: remember like it was a shocker because there wasn't you

1992
01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:55,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean, there there were there were you know,

1993
01:50:55,960 --> 01:50:58,840
Speaker 1: pretty girls that would come and and and and ride

1994
01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 1: on the mountain, but it wasn't like, you know, you're

1995
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:04,040
Speaker 1: so covered up by all this equipment and you didn't

1996
01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:06,280
Speaker 1: see what anybody really looked like in the mountains and

1997
01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:08,160
Speaker 1: the giant jackets on and stuff. And she kind of

1998
01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:11,960
Speaker 1: like came from sunny Australia and was like, you know,

1999
01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:14,120
Speaker 1: like this this this new girl on the scene. And

2000
01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:18,559
Speaker 1: I was like whoa. And that started my like all right,

2001
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:21,960
Speaker 1: I gotta get some courage here to start this. This

2002
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:24,120
Speaker 1: wanted too much. I gotta to do something about it.

2003
01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:28,320
Speaker 1: So I remember like pursuing her. What about you, Jesse,

2004
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:31,760
Speaker 1: big crush, I'm imagining Sean, You're like You're like I'm

2005
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:33,720
Speaker 1: gonna spray you like you just like sprayed her with

2006
01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:39,160
Speaker 1: some snow. Oh my god, I sprayed so many guys

2007
01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 1: with snow. That was like a move right the moment ever,

2008
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:50,599
Speaker 1: she she fell really hard. Well, at least I thought

2009
01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:53,479
Speaker 1: this was a great moment. She fell really hard, and

2010
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:55,320
Speaker 1: when we were riding down the mountain together and I

2011
01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:58,960
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'll fall you down, you know, along

2012
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 1: with all the other dudes, and uh. And she fell

2013
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:03,880
Speaker 1: and she hit her She wasn't wearing her gloves and

2014
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:05,679
Speaker 1: she hit her hand on the edge of the board

2015
01:52:05,720 --> 01:52:08,840
Speaker 1: and her fingers were like bleeding. And we were up

2016
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:14,240
Speaker 1: in mount Hood in Oregon, and I like kicked under

2017
01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 1: survival mode and like took my shirt off and like

2018
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:25,840
Speaker 1: wrapped her hand so beyond unnecessary. She's like, no, I'm

2019
01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:30,080
Speaker 1: gonna be okay, why is your shirt off. She's like

2020
01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:33,960
Speaker 1: creating like a created like a harness to like carry

2021
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 1: her down. She's like, I really don't need this bodyguard.

2022
01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:42,040
Speaker 1: I was like, I got this sheried her out of that. Yeah.

2023
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 1: Really my big moment, Jesse. I want to know about

2024
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:51,280
Speaker 1: your first crush. It was it was way younger Ramona

2025
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:55,479
Speaker 1: in like the third grade. Oh, we're talking early. Well

2026
01:52:55,600 --> 01:52:57,360
Speaker 1: we're talking young on this one. And she had that

2027
01:52:57,479 --> 01:53:01,519
Speaker 1: like Daria style haircut, you know, like straight bang and

2028
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:04,200
Speaker 1: it was short, like kind of nerdy. And I do

2029
01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:08,320
Speaker 1: remember I made her like the just the killer Valentine

2030
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:12,320
Speaker 1: just shaded that hard, you know, like real good, like

2031
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:16,600
Speaker 1: crafted it can set yeah, like set it in the

2032
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:21,400
Speaker 1: perfect You just take a little emotional poet from the beginning,

2033
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:24,760
Speaker 1: from the early day, setting yourself up for the heartbreak

2034
01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:27,120
Speaker 1: right out there. It was. It was a tough one.

2035
01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:29,720
Speaker 1: Dropped it in the paper bag, you know, we all

2036
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:33,599
Speaker 1: honestly dropped that, watched her, wasched her open it from

2037
01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:38,200
Speaker 1: afar and then just be like whatever, just like toss

2038
01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:43,400
Speaker 1: it to the side. Okay, who's more responsible? Oh, I

2039
01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:47,400
Speaker 1: mean yeah, that's me. Who's the better dancer? I mean

2040
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:52,160
Speaker 1: we have some moves dancing their dance moves. What we

2041
01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 1: do is move you do a little like you know, jingles,

2042
01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:02,760
Speaker 1: little steps here. There's no like actual it doesn't look good.

2043
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:07,120
Speaker 1: It doesn't look it's not good. Yeah, it's maybe Jesse.

2044
01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 1: I would say, who's the survivalist? It? Actually I like

2045
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:13,920
Speaker 1: this for a whole family, Like who in your family

2046
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 1: when the ship goes down, does everybody turn to or

2047
01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:28,439
Speaker 1: what who does everybody want to eat? Like, d no,

2048
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 1: you'd be like, just burn it, just burn it, burn it,

2049
01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 1: burn it. We'll need fire, just burn it, just burn everything.

2050
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:40,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I would handle my own

2051
01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:44,680
Speaker 1: pretty well. Like so, like, if you guys, you guys

2052
01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:47,360
Speaker 1: get lost in the wilderness, everyone says, okay, Sean, Like

2053
01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:52,720
Speaker 1: what no, no, no, no, just me, it's me, it's me. Yeah,

2054
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 1: there's no question about that, no one, no, there's no

2055
01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:02,960
Speaker 1: pretended here. We can eat the we can eat the

2056
01:55:03,080 --> 01:55:08,360
Speaker 1: bark and survive. Sean. You ate all the food, You

2057
01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:10,960
Speaker 1: ate all the food immediately. Why would you do that?

2058
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:15,040
Speaker 1: Why would you eat everything and leave all the sweaters behind?

2059
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:17,120
Speaker 1: Like why did you do any of that? Yeah? No,

2060
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 1: I am I am the Yeah that that is my

2061
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:27,640
Speaker 1: role without a doubt. Yeah, all right. Should we wrap

2062
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:30,720
Speaker 1: it up with the final two things. The first is

2063
01:55:31,240 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 1: what is one thing that you would alleviate from your siblings,

2064
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 1: something that you would want to kind of ease for them,

2065
01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:44,360
Speaker 1: that would make their life better or easier or what

2066
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:47,360
Speaker 1: have you. And then the second one is what is

2067
01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:49,520
Speaker 1: something that you would love to emulate, something that they

2068
01:55:49,640 --> 01:55:52,640
Speaker 1: have a quality that inspires you or something that you

2069
01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 1: wish you had in yourself. I mean, Sean, I'll go first.

2070
01:55:57,080 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 1: I think I think for you, the uh, you know,

2071
01:56:01,320 --> 01:56:05,400
Speaker 1: the ability to just like like decompress. I know, like

2072
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:09,160
Speaker 1: you know, the thing with Sean is like there's so

2073
01:56:09,240 --> 01:56:12,840
Speaker 1: much motivation and there's so much desire, but it's also

2074
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:15,560
Speaker 1: like a double edged sword. So the ability for you

2075
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:18,480
Speaker 1: to like like find time to just you know, turn

2076
01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:21,440
Speaker 1: it off would be I think just a gift that

2077
01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:26,200
Speaker 1: would give to you for sure. And then and then

2078
01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 1: the second question was was what I could emulate? Yeah,

2079
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:33,880
Speaker 1: what you would take from Sean that you wish you had, Yeah, right, uh.

2080
01:56:34,240 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 1: And And in that end, since Sean, I really like

2081
01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:42,800
Speaker 1: I admire your your strength on the other side, not

2082
01:56:43,080 --> 01:56:46,120
Speaker 1: just like physical, but also just like what you can

2083
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 1: what you can handle, and what you can put on

2084
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:53,920
Speaker 1: your shoulders and like focus and be able to take

2085
01:56:53,960 --> 01:56:57,040
Speaker 1: all that weight and still do what you do, like

2086
01:56:57,200 --> 01:56:58,800
Speaker 1: not just on the snowboard, but just like in life.

2087
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:03,440
Speaker 1: I think it's just very admirable. Mm hmm. Thank you,

2088
01:57:03,600 --> 01:57:06,320
Speaker 1: No I I I It's it's funny hearing you say that,

2089
01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:08,440
Speaker 1: because I literally I was sitting right when they asked

2090
01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:10,440
Speaker 1: the question. I was like, what would I take from

2091
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:16,320
Speaker 1: Jesse And it's kind of your ability to I mean,

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Speaker 1: you just kind of seem to like always make whatever

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Speaker 1: situation you're in a really positive and wonderful one. Like

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Speaker 1: you're always, you know, seem very content with like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm here today doing this with my family, or I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna set this this thing and do

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Speaker 1: it and just be super content with it and kind

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Speaker 1: of like enjoying those moments, you know, where I'm always

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Speaker 1: like looking for that next thing, you know, I always

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Speaker 1: I always kind of stir on what I have instead

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Speaker 1: of just fully enjoying it. And you're and you're caring

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Speaker 1: this for others, you know, Like I just feel like

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Speaker 1: you're always the one in the family that's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I love the family deeply, but you've always you know,

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Speaker 1: you're the oldest, well not the oldest Jessica, but within

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Speaker 1: our our family growing up together, and you always had

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Speaker 1: that kind of like that that love for all of

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Speaker 1: us that really shone through as the oldest, and you

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Speaker 1: kind of like took the lead on those things. And

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Speaker 1: I would love to be able to like emulate that

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Speaker 1: and have that and then oh, wait, are we I

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Speaker 1: I started with what Ika, Yeah, that's fine. Then the

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Speaker 1: things that you would take, the things that you would do,

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Speaker 1: something that you would alleviate from him. It's hard as

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Speaker 1: the outside, as you know, I'm not I'm not with

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Speaker 1: you every day with the family, you know, but just

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Speaker 1: like you seemed to kind of have it all. So

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Speaker 1: you seem like you're in a very you know, and

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Speaker 1: I know the grass is greener, but it just seems

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Speaker 1: like you got such a really a wonderful thing going.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know, I just love to relieve any

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Speaker 1: sort of like I don't know, family worry or stress

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Speaker 1: that you have. I know you, you know, you got

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Speaker 1: a lot on your shoulders with like the family and

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Speaker 1: your career, and if I could, you know, if I

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Speaker 1: could take that away and have you just feeling completely

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Speaker 1: you know, oh, everything's just you know, great, great, great.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, from the house looking in, it

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Speaker 1: looks pretty pretty wonderful. So Jesse, you're perfect. Yeah, R know,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that, Sean. What was your guys? If you

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Speaker 1: don't mind me asking mine for Oliver was to me,

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Speaker 1: would be up to alleviate any his his fear or

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Speaker 1: anxiety that you know that he to have the like

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Speaker 1: ultimate confidence in knowing that he belongs where he is

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Speaker 1: and that he deserves where he is, and that he

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Speaker 1: that just to take that fear factor away from it.

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Speaker 1: And then what I would want to emulate is funny

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Speaker 1: because it's similar. He has his where he is fearless

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Speaker 1: is in his sort of self deprecation. It's humor, is

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Speaker 1: wit and and I love how expressive he is and

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Speaker 1: that it just makes me laugh and it's so warm

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Speaker 1: and it's so fun to be around. And you know

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Speaker 1: that that little bit of self deprecation, I just I

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Speaker 1: think it's funny because what you what you wish I had,

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Speaker 1: is what I wish that I had from you, which

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Speaker 1: is that you know, ultimate confidence in yourself, you know,

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Speaker 1: knowing that you are in the place that you're supposed

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Speaker 1: to be. And and your drive, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: you your ability to want something and go after it

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Speaker 1: and accomplish it. You know, there's a lot that I want.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of ideas. I have amazing ideas. I'm

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Speaker 1: very creative, but I get I get stopped, I stop

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Speaker 1: myself short, I get overwhelmed by the process sometimes and

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Speaker 1: then quit, you know. So that's what I wish that

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Speaker 1: I had of Kate's, And then what I would take

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Speaker 1: away is probably I just wish that you sometimes could

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Speaker 1: just not have so many things to do, and to

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Speaker 1: be able to just be quiet and enjoy the moment

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Speaker 1: a little bit more, not worry about what's going to happen,

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Speaker 1: and not worry about what has happened, but to just

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Speaker 1: stay right in that pocket. And you do do that,

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Speaker 1: but for extended periods of time. You know, Thank you

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Speaker 1: for asking that, Sean, because I think it's like I

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Speaker 1: think we've gotten somewhere, you know, like that. Okay, you guys,

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Speaker 1: this is awesome. This was long. This is long. Sibling

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Speaker 1: Revelry is executive groups by Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: Producer is Alison Present editor is Josh Wendish. Music by

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Speaker 1: Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mark.