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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. We are experiencing technical difficulties.

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Speaker 2: This is the Bobby Cast.

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to episode four seventy seven. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: Rascal Flats. So it's a special episode and we've had

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Speaker 1: these guys in over the past ten years and now

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Speaker 1: they're back together again, so we thought we'd kind of

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Speaker 1: walk down that trail together. Now. If you remember, they

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Speaker 1: were about to go on a farewell tour in twenty

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Speaker 1: out on the road and say goodbye because well they

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Speaker 1: were breaking up. And then they just went ahead and

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Speaker 1: broke up and decided they do stuff individually. So that's

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Speaker 1: what they did. So you had Gary who went out

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Speaker 1: and performed solo and did a Christian album, and he

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Speaker 1: Jodahn who took some time to work on his health.

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Speaker 1: And so what we did is we went back through

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Speaker 1: the archives and a lot of this is from when

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Speaker 1: I was talking to them individually from the past decade.

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Speaker 1: And I want to start first with Jada Marcus. Jay

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Speaker 1: has dark hair. He's one of the two cousins. Jay

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Speaker 1: plays what like bass guitar, he plays a little bit

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Speaker 1: of everything. He's super savant as far as music comes.

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Speaker 1: But this is Jay talking about how Rascal Flats came

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Speaker 1: together back in the day, what Nashville was like when

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Speaker 1: they first started out, and he shared what he thought

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Speaker 1: the future of the band was gonna be, like, we'll

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Speaker 1: go to back to the beginning of the Flats or

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Speaker 1: Rascal Flats, not the Rascal Flats. So if everybody's listening

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Speaker 1: right now, I'll call him the Rascal Flats, dear God.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna we're gonna move past college. We'll get

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Speaker 1: back to that in a minute. You're in town and

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Speaker 1: you have a cousin that you guys weren't super close.

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Speaker 3: We weren't growing up, but we lost touch, right, and

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Speaker 3: which is Gary?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And Gary had been winning some karaoke competitions. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I kept hearing grumblings back home when I would

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Speaker 2: And I'd be like, really, that's new.

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't that I was being mean about it,

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Speaker 3: the Christian band. And then somebody told me that he

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Speaker 3: That's kind of cool. And it was lost on me

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Speaker 1: And then my mom.

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Speaker 3: Called me one day and she goes, now, your cousin

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Speaker 3: Gary's gonna call you and you need to listen to

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Speaker 1: I was like, Mom, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: The last thing I want to do is tell some

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Speaker 3: to She called Judy Gary's mother, Jude Babe. They were

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Speaker 3: She said, well, listen, I've already told Jude Babe that

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Speaker 3: And he lived on my couch. I had a one

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Speaker 1: So you guys are playing show as a printer's alley

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Speaker 3: A week, Yeah, and doesn't even exist anymore in the

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Speaker 1: Now. So you go and you say, hey, Gary, we're

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Speaker 3: we'd go in and hear him sing, and he would

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Speaker 1: The guy that you were singing, the guy that was

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Speaker 1: putting a stage together. Would you put a band together?

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Speaker 3: So we put a band together.

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Speaker 1: So you're playing with Shelley right at this time too, right,

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Speaker 1: like as your main you can playing with Shelley right.

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Speaker 1: You're playing keys?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're running the band, you're playing keys, and

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Speaker 1: you had hired a guitarist, which was Joe Done. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, he didn't start playing with us right away. A

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Speaker 3: I've got a fever, and I'm sorry to do this

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Speaker 3: I said, I've been telling you about my cousin anyway

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he go right to work throwing papers. So

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Speaker 3: But then we got up there together in the first

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Speaker 1: So Shane that original guitar players the name right. It

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Speaker 1: basically got Wally pipped, and Wally Pip played first Bays

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Speaker 1: he didn't do anything wrong. I know he got hurt.

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Speaker 1: And here it comes, lou Gary was gonna fill in

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Speaker 1: and then here it's now the lou Gary world. I know,

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Speaker 1: what does Shane say about that?

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Speaker 3: Shane's still a buddy of ours. We still see him

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Speaker 3: out playing with different artists and playing guitar, but he,

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Speaker 3: you know, he obviously gives us massive amounts of crap

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Speaker 3: that was really awkward. I was like, I think we're

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Speaker 3: definitely tell you this too, God that there was a

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Speaker 3: special chemistry in a blend that we had that was

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Speaker 3: not common what.

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Speaker 1: Was happening in Nashville at that time? Though you got

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Speaker 1: But so as you're deciding where to go to school,

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Speaker 3: this was the year two thousand and six. He said,

438
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 3: We've sold more records this year than anybody in this room.

439
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,440
Speaker 3: And it stopped me in my tracks. And he wasn't

440
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,919
Speaker 3: saying it to be boastful or to like be you know,

441
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 3: braggadocious about it. He was saying, can you believe what

442
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,399
Speaker 3: we've done outside of just being in country music? And

443
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 3: it was overwhelming to me. I never will forget that night,

444
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 3: in that moment that we shared during the commercial break there, which.

445
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 1: Is the two of us, it was so cool. Did

446
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,439
Speaker 1: you guys get crap for being a mainstream success from

447
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:47,159
Speaker 1: any of the Nashville you know, hardcore of country folks.

448
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:48,439
Speaker 1: Not really.

449
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 2: No, No, To be honest, we didn't.

450
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 1: We had.

451
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 2: I mean people I felt like were you.

452
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 3: Know, except for the moment there when the song was

453
00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 3: released Murder on music Row and they talked about pop

454
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 3: coming over and infiltrating country. It was a little bit

455
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 3: of a movement there, but most people rallied around us

456
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 3: and got behind us.

457
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 1: And you know, there was a batch of us.

458
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 3: Doing something different in Keith Urban and US and Shadaisy

459
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 3: at the time, and a few people that were putting

460
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 3: poppier elements into the country music, and I feel like

461
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 3: they welcomed it. And it was you know, some of

462
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 3: the critics, of course, derided us early on and we

463
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 3: got a bad rap, but most of the people in

464
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 3: the music industry were kind of excited that there was

465
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 3: kind of a new movement coming along.

466
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 4: You know.

467
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 1: Blessed the Broken Road another song that crept into my life.

468
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 3: We had that sweet spot where you're kind of in

469
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 3: a deel, you know, and you just sit there in

470
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 3: it and soak it all up, because it seems like

471
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 3: you have a moment in time where you put a

472
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,199
Speaker 3: song out it resonates with people, and you have your

473
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,959
Speaker 3: fingers crossed, and you put another one out and it

474
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 3: resonates with people. It was such a magical time for us.

475
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 3: We had about ten years there that were just phenomenal.

476
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 3: And it's a testament to the songwriters in this town too,

477
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,719
Speaker 3: because the songs we were able to get our hands on,

478
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 3: the writers that were sitting in rooms writing for us,

479
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 3: that knew what we wanted to say, how we wanted

480
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 3: to sing, it really had their fingers on the pulse

481
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 3: of who Rascal Flats was.

482
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 1: I can't thank them enough. Was there ever a point

483
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: with you guys, you three, that you're like, this is

484
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: probably it. We're done.

485
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 3: When Lyric Streets shut down in twenty ten, we sat

486
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 3: around in my man room and looked at each other

487
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 3: and we're like, do we have anything left to say?

488
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 3: Even I mean, it's been a great ten year run.

489
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 3: We were getting ready to either quit or make a

490
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 3: management change, and a lot of things were going to change,

491
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 3: and we knew it and it was going to be tough,

492
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 3: and we sat around and considered whether or not it

493
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 3: wasn't time to lay Rascal Flats down, and I think

494
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 3: after an hour or so of talking with each other,

495
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 3: it was just like, it hurts me to think about

496
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 3: the last time that I'll look over to my right

497
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 3: and not see Gary beside me. When I think about

498
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 3: that day, it makes me emotional. I don't know when

499
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 3: that day will be, but I wasn't ready to face it.

500
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 3: And to think about never making music with the two

501
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 3: of them again. Boy, it's something that even though we

502
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,239
Speaker 3: were in twenty years and we love each other like

503
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 3: brothers and we've certainly fought like brothers before. I love

504
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 3: those guys with all my heart. And we've done some

505
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 3: things that a lot of people will never see or

506
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: never be able to do. And we've been in the

507
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 3: trenches together, and we know each other in ways that

508
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 3: our own wives don't even know us. And to think

509
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 3: about not having that anymore, I think all of us

510
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: were not ready, and we were willing to stay together

511
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 3: because we felt like we had more to say and

512
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 3: more to do, and we still do. I don't know

513
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 3: that it's going to come to a close anytime soon.

514
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 3: I think we will all three have things we want

515
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 3: to do individually as we get older and have opportunities to.

516
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 3: But I don't see us ever really going away and

517
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 3: and having an official, quote unquote breakup.

518
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: Do you ever think about a sideband.

519
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 3: I'm in one already, and it's tough to be in

520
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 3: that one sometimes in the time that it takes in

521
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 3: the commitment level, I've thought about maybe doing side projects, things.

522
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: Like that side band that you're in. Why do I

523
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: know this or do I know this is a secret?

524
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I mean I'm in Rascal Flats.

525
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: In the commitment I was like, how do I not know?

526
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: No, No, I I don't have I mean, I certainly

527
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 3: love making music on any level, and you're producing music

528
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 3: by the way, Yeah, well, I open up a Christian

529
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 3: label back in October, so I've got artists signed there

530
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 3: to that label that I'll be releasing records on. So

531
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 3: there my time commitment there with that new thing and

532
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 3: my life is pretty substantial. So I'm going to try

533
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 3: to make sure that's as successful as it can possibly be.

534
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: And I want to continue making music and producing for

535
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: other people.

536
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: And I've had I've had the.

537
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: Chance to do a lot of great things, and you know,

538
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 3: I'm made a really great point in my life now

539
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 3: to where I really really enjoy everything that I'm doing

540
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 3: right now, and I'm not just doing it because I

541
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 3: have to.

542
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 6: You know, the Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome

543
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 6: back to the Bobby Cast.

544
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: So then a few months later, I sat down with

545
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: lead singer Gary Lavaux. Now this has been four or

546
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: five years ago, and this is for Gary and I

547
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: were actually really close friends. And it's interesting because he

548
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: did not know the future of Rascal Flats when we

549
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: were having this conversation because it was just the beginning

550
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: of COVID and I was like, what is even going

551
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: to happen? He knew they were going to break up

552
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: kind of, but he didn't know if they were going

553
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: to tour it. You'll hear this, but again he talked

554
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: about the early days moving to Nashville, forming Rascal Flats,

555
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: even a solo project, and who he thinks the best

556
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: country singers of all time are, and a whole bunch more.

557
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: You know, I saw you guys. You're doing some promotion

558
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: now for the new EP July thirty first, which we're

559
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: going to play this whole interview thing on the radio

560
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: show This is long form podcast to count down a

561
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: lot of things. So I saw you guys doing promotion

562
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: on one of those morning talk shows like Good Morning

563
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: America or something Today's show. Were you guys together virtually

564
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: or do you come in on the different boxes?

565
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 5: Jill Don and I were together. Jay was in Hilton

566
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 5: Head playing golf.

567
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: And are you like Jay, we're doing promotion. Least you

568
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: can do is come hang out.

569
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly by what we said. But he wouldn't

570
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 5: doing it.

571
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: So it's the whole virtual thing is weird because it

572
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: doesn't really feel like it counts, even though it does.

573
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 4: No.

574
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: I know, I was doing American Idol with the whole

575
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: last five episodes, and I'm doing it from my house.

576
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: I swear to god, I didn't wear pants for network television.

577
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't on the Today Show.

578
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: You're not now?

579
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 4: No, I know. It's just it's so comfortable now.

580
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: The new EP, how they Remember You? We released July

581
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: thirty first, and when I was thinking about EPs, have

582
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: you guys put out just an EP in a long time?

583
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 3: Never?

584
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: Because I would think you guys are just full straight

585
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: ahead album guys yeap. What was this? What made you

586
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: think about putting out a smaller project?

587
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 5: Well, because we were actually had this other project going on,

588
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 5: and then we were we had these songs like kind

589
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 5: of left over from projects that we really liked but

590
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 5: never had the chance to and this Quarantine thing kind

591
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 5: of put it where we were kind of looking at

592
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 5: and we were like, man, we should finish these out.

593
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 5: And so it just came up to h and then

594
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 5: Dan Huff got another song that he really liked, how

595
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 5: They Remember You, which is the new single, and then

596
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 5: so we just kind of put it all on an

597
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 5: EP and we had seven and we were like, let's

598
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 5: just go with seven. So Borshett it was like, yep,

599
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 5: it's great. So Big Machine put it out. Well it

600
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 5: will be.

601
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: Up and that's new right you being with Scott war

602
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: shout out Big Machine? Is that new ish?

603
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 4: No, we've been there for ten years.

604
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: E been there that long.

605
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 4: Yeah. Wow, we got lost because of Tailor. Thanks Bobby.

606
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot. Wasn't there a fourth member?

607
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

608
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 4: Guy for hearing and then he went to cooking. It

609
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 4: was weird.

610
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: So you got seven try, but seven's almost a record

611
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: to be fair, Yeah, it is. I mean it's like

612
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: it's somewhere, it's like the purgatory of EP to LP.

613
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, the whole game's changed. Who knows what

614
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 5: to do anymore? Some people were just doing singles. People

615
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 5: want to do records. I mean, you know, I missed

616
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 5: the whole body of work. But to be honest, nobody

617
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 5: really wants the whole body of work.

618
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: I agree, even my favorite artists like I would rather

619
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: now consume a couple of songs a month, yep, and

620
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: have them consistently come at me a couple of time,

621
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: because what happens with me, just as a music fan,

622
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: first and foremost, is that you give me thirteen tracks

623
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: and I'll go through it once and not give some

624
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: songs the fair credit, just the acknowledgement they deserve, because

625
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta hear a song two or three times

626
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: you really love it, and I won't do that because

627
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: I'd be like, thirteen tracks, it's just too much overwhelming.

628
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 4: Yep, I know, yep.

629
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 5: And then the artwork nothing really, you know, everything that

630
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 5: you used to love about music or can't wait for

631
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 5: a new thing to come out and just kind of

632
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 5: it's disappeared.

633
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: You're one of the best singers in town and your

634
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: your voice is still so pure. Have you felt your

635
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: voice get lower higher through the last fifteen twenty years?

636
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: Does it move at all?

637
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 4: You know, it really has.

638
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 5: I think it's gotten stronger for some weird reason.

639
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 4: I don't know. I can hit things now easier than

640
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 4: I could before. I don't know.

641
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: Why do you think that is?

642
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's just kind of like a muscle,

643
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 5: you know, It's just like any kind of athlete. And

644
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 5: I think the more you use it correctly and it

645
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 5: stretches and all that kind of good stuff, it just

646
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 5: kind of I don't know, I've just been blessed with

647
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 5: being able to not lose much.

648
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: How old were you when it started to be Wow,

649
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: Gary's actually better than the other kids, or I don't know,

650
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: seventeen year olds.

651
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 5: You know, I don't even really know, because I mean,

652
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 5: like I did some but I was still into sports

653
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 5: that I really wasn't even thinking about music really, you know.

654
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 5: And then but like high school, I'll do like I

655
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 5: would be in the musicals like South Pacific and Guys

656
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 5: and Dolls and all that, and these show choir kind

657
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 5: of things, and I always ended up getting like the

658
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 5: you know, like the lead or I have a solo

659
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 5: part in something and it was you know, I was

660
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 5: probably better than average, but.

661
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: But it wasn't blown away crowd and they walked out

662
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: like they weren't like, holy crap, what you want. I

663
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 1: guess you weren't La Vox, right, But the Gary freaking

664
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: was killing everybody that was. That wasn't a thing early.

665
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, maybe, but I think the soccer was my

666
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 5: big thing, So I think that kind of overshadowed the

667
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 5: music thing.

668
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 4: I was soccer. Huh, yep.

669
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: Do you think you could go and play? I guess

670
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: really wasn't MLS. And did you try to play in

671
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: college or no?

672
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 4: No, I didn't.

673
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 5: I had I had a scholarship to Taylor University and

674
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 5: didn't take it. My stepdad at the time had started

675
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 5: an electric company, so I was doing that and I'm like,

676
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 5: this is going to be mine one day, all this,

677
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 5: you know, so I just I started making money, and

678
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 5: you know, started making that five seventy five an hour.

679
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 4: I thought I was big balling.

680
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy to hear about how much you

681
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: love sports.

682
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 7: Now.

683
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: I've heard stories about you and how good of an

684
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: athlete you still are, and I guess you don't show

685
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: it a lot. But one of my dear friends was

686
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: Clarence is your manager yep, And he was I don't

687
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 1: know if it was boxing or something, and he was like,

688
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: we were on the tour.

689
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 4: Bus, oh yeah, on boxing problem.

690
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: And they were like, we got and I guess you

691
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: would put on some gloves and we're just kind of

692
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: just you know, dicking around. And he was like, you

693
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: would not believe how fast his breaking hands are. And

694
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: he was like deceivingly, Levox is one of the best

695
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: athletes you know of all, because it's a weird thing

696
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: to be such a good athlete and such a great singer.

697
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: I look at guys like you, or a Sam Hunt

698
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: or a and Go or even a Chuck Wicks, like

699
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: the guy is a great athlete and a good looking guy.

700
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: You guys have and I have nothing. You guys have

701
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: all the elements and I have nothing. And I just

702
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: look at you all and go here I am fingernails

703
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: keeping the mountain, trying to climb. You guys got your

704
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: little trolley and just right up with all the skills,

705
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: like God just gifted you so many.

706
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 5: Oh that's not true at all, that's not true at all.

707
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 5: But I know what you're saying, like that not for me,

708
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 5: but like the Sam Haunts and the Chuck with they're

709
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 5: they're really good at everything and they're and they look

710
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 5: good and yeah, and they look great.

711
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: Now.

712
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 4: See, I would put me in that category, but I

713
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 4: don't know.

714
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: I did put you in the category.

715
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 4: I wrote it down for you that thank you.

716
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: Oh.

717
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 8: No.

718
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: One of the tracks quick Fast in a Hurry Rachel

719
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: walmax On, who I just love love her. She's such

720
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: a great singer. So when you were putting together the record,

721
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: there's only one one feature on here, why Rachel?

722
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 5: It was just one of those things, like, I mean,

723
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 5: she opened she did like a couple of shows for us,

724
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 5: opened up and and like I went out there and

725
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 5: we were all kind of watching, and I was like, God, I.

726
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 4: Had no idea. She can blow. She can absolutely kill it.

727
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 5: And then so we're just like we should quick Fast

728
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 5: in a Hurry was kind of fresh on our minds,

729
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 5: you know, and we had just kind of tracked it

730
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 5: and we were just like, man, we should ask Rachel.

731
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 4: She'd be into it.

732
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 5: And Clarence manages her too, so you're like, just keep

733
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 5: it all in the family.

734
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 4: And she crushed it.

735
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: Who do you see in town now where you go? Man,

736
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: they can just sing like if you were doing a

737
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: mount Rushmore of current. Let's say we got to put

738
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: some perimeters on this. They've had to have had a

739
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: hit in the past five years. Okay, so I'm going

740
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: to eliminate any of the nineties guys that maybe you

741
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: saw on the upper end when you were coming in.

742
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: Who can really sing Mount Rushmore? Four people?

743
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 5: Boy, that's tough. Carrie Underwook can really sing Rachel Trifle.

744
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: Let me stop being carry a truffall. She goes into studio,

745
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: doesn't allow them to touch her voice? Do you know that?

746
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 4: Really?

747
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm asking you. I've heard that.

748
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 4: Have you heard that? No, I haven't heard that, Garth,

749
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 4: I've heard that.

750
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: Do you allow them to touch your voice?

751
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

752
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 5: Heck yeah, I want to be great really yeah, but

753
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 5: that's you know, but just kind of like tone stuff

754
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 5: like how much verb and all that, and I mean,

755
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 5: but I'll take pitch corrector all.

756
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: Day, but you don't need pitch corrector. Well, you know,

757
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: sometimes you have perfect pitch.

758
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 4: It's pretty close. It's pretty close.

759
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: All right, you got Carrie, go ahead, you got three

760
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: more Carrie.

761
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 4: Ronnie Dunn.

762
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: Mmm, good one.

763
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 5: I mean for a country country singer, Hey, I put

764
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 5: Luke Combs in there.

765
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would too.

766
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, and.

767
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 5: See there's some that just haven't had a hit in

768
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 5: front the last five years, but I would put I

769
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 5: don't wanna miss some.

770
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 1: But oh, you're gonna miss a lot. So I think

771
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: it's okay because there's so many.

772
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 4: No, I'm gonna put Bobby Bones.

773
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: There's a lot of pitch corector. When I go in

774
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: to do it's just pitch director. I don't even I

775
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: just call in and I'm like, hey, just take this.

776
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: I don't even have to go. I just slam it on. There.

777
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: Are you guys not gonna say goodbye on the tour?

778
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 4: You know? Not for now?

779
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know what's happening. It's just, you know,

780
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 5: every state's different now that states that were in Phase

781
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 5: three you're going back to phase two. And you know

782
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 5: it's just crazy. I mean, who who knows? I mean,

783
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 5: I don't know.

784
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 4: You know, I know.

785
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 5: Jay's doing his own thing. Joe Don's right in a

786
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 5: bunch and you know, and I'll just tell you that

787
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 5: you know and everybody that I'm so I'm doing a

788
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 5: solo record.

789
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,959
Speaker 4: I'm working on a solo record right now.

790
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: Is that breaking news?

791
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 4: That's breaking news?

792
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: I knew it already, but I keep I keep such

793
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: a good secret.

794
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 4: M so low.

795
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: So wait what is that? I'm gonna ask you about that?

796
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: So you're doing a solo record? What and what it was?

797
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: I feel like, what's the So.

798
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 5: I'm doing a first I'm going to do a solo

799
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 5: I'm doing a solo Christian record.

800
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 4: It's been a dream record.

801
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 5: Of mine forever and I'm halfway done with that now

802
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 5: and it's I'm so excited about it. It's just gonna

803
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 5: be great. And I think I'm going to do a

804
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 5: solo country record right after that.

805
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 4: Wow.

806
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: Ye Now what kind of expectation do you put on

807
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: yourself in the solo country world where you've had You're

808
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: as successful as you could have possibly been, Like, you

809
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: can't be bigger than the flats? Yeah, So now it's you.

810
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: How do you like? What is the goal with you? Same? Yeah?

811
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 4: I mean the same. I'll just see where God takes it.

812
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 5: But there's just there's you know, it's you know, sometimes

813
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 5: it's difficult for the three of us to agree on

814
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 5: songs to cut and things that I really believe in

815
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 5: most of the time it would work out.

816
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 4: But there's you.

817
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 5: Know, there's just I think, you know, I mean, I

818
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 5: feel the responsibility in the in the calling to continue

819
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 5: to keep singing if Flats does or not. So, but

820
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 5: there's songs that I really believe in that I love

821
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 5: and they're you know. I mean, I don't know if

822
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 5: they'll be different from Flats because I was the lead

823
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 5: singer of Flat, so I mean, they're all all kind

824
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 5: of sound like that, but and maybe not all the

825
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 5: harmony stuff on there. But there's songs that I really

826
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 5: truly believe in that I love that I think are

827
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 5: giants and I think that the world needs to hear.

828
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 5: I mean, I think they're you know, I think they're

829
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 5: really really good. And I've already got some recorded for that.

830
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 5: So I'm just excited. I'm excited about doing my own thing,

831
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 5: and you know, and it's excited to see what happens,

832
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 5: you know, if the Flats get together at some point

833
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 5: when everything clears off. I mean, I don't know, we'll see,

834
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 5: but I'm going to continue to work and I feel

835
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 5: like that's that's been my calling and what I need

836
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 5: to continue to do.

837
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: And do you know those guys well as anyone. If

838
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: let's say a vaccine happens with Corona in March of

839
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: next year, you guys decide to go out and play

840
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: ten shows, and just this is just a hypothetical. Will

841
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: they be cool with you singing your solo songs up

842
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: there if it's out? Yeah?

843
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, h yeah they would. Yeah.

844
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 5: I mean we also, I mean we get along great.

845
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 5: We just don't know what's happening. And you know, everybody

846
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 5: kind of you know, you know, a couple of the

847
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 5: guys wanted to do their own thing early on, and

848
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 5: it just this Corona thing.

849
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 4: It's it's just weird. It kind of gave us a

850
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 4: year off before we were going to take a year off,

851
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 4: you know. Yeah. So I don't know, it's just just

852
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 4: the way it worked out.

853
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: Before I moved, I guess that's about three moves ago.

854
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: But I was living in a condo and you looked

855
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: out the window right on the printer's alley.

856
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 4: Yep.

857
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: So when you first moved to town, did you guys

858
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: play any of those Printer's alley spots?

859
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 4: Yep?

860
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 5: Right there, Fiddling Steel we played there, but we played

861
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 5: all of them, but our main gig was like Mondays

862
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 5: and Tuesdays the fiddling steel, and then we would play

863
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 5: Barbers and we played Lonnie's Western Room.

864
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 4: We'd play all those down there.

865
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: What does that mean? You would play them? Like talk

866
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 1: about them? What's a Monday night?

867
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 4: So Monday night?

868
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 5: Well, when I first moved to town, it was Jay

869
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 5: set up by the cigarette machine with a little keyboard

870
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 5: and we had some tracks like well they call me

871
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 5: the Farm and that's my name. We'd sit there and

872
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 5: sometimes the security guard was the only person that would

873
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 5: be in there. But we would play there from nine

874
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 5: to three on Mondays and Tuesdays. Then we started building

875
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 5: a following. Then we met and Joe Don came in

876
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 5: and then but we played from nine to three, take breaks,

877
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 5: and then we'd take a break, and then we'd go

878
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 5: to barbers across the street and play over there and

879
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 5: sit in a carry out I and then we just

880
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 5: stayed in the alley. We're gonna be somewhere every night

881
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 5: playing music.

882
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: What does that mean to develop a following when you're

883
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: playing small bars with without social media? Like? What is that?

884
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: Just the same people coming to see you?

885
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, just same people would come in. They knew when

886
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 5: we were playing. And what was great back then too,

887
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 5: was like Mark Chestnut, Toby Keith and all that. So

888
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 5: when everybody was off the road, everybody would go to

889
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 5: Printer's Alley and hang. So he might be playing with

890
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 5: Mark Chestnut's guitar player, you know, Toby Keith's drummer, you

891
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 5: know Martina McBride's you know, acoustic player. It was just

892
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 5: a I mean, it's what country music was.

893
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 4: You know. Then they knocked it.

894
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 5: All down and built you know, the condo I used

895
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 5: to look condo that you used to live.

896
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: What was the final straw that made you come to Nashville?

897
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: You know what?

898
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 5: I was sitting in my mom's kitchen and how old

899
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 5: I was twenty I was twenty seven and I was

900
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,959
Speaker 5: sitting in my mom's kitchen and I was singing along

901
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 5: with the radio, and I was like, it just hit me.

902
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 5: And at that moment, I just kind of looked up

903
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 5: and I said, God, I feel like you give me

904
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 5: some type of gift to sing, and I'm so sorry

905
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 5: that I haven't used it. It was just the weirdest thing.

906
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 5: And I was like, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna

907
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 5: do it. So I took out because I worked for

908
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 5: the Board of Developmentally Disabled for ten years. It's right

909
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 5: out of high school. So I had to leave that job,

910
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 5: you know, state job, sold everything and moved to town.

911
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 5: And but that's what it was in my kitchen. I'd

912
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 5: really I sold everything through everything in my truck, moved

913
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 5: moved to Nashville.

914
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: Were you dominating karaoke competitions back off?

915
00:40:59,040 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 4: Yeah?

916
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, because that was the extra hundred bucks, you

917
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 5: know if you won. I was like, you know, if

918
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 5: I had to hit three on Friday, I'd be extra

919
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 5: three hundred dollars, you know, then Saturday, and then there

920
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 5: was one place on Sunday.

921
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 4: But then they caught on.

922
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 5: So if you won too much, then you couldn't win anymore,

923
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 5: you know, so then you had to start venturing out.

924
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: You go it on the East, uh fake mustache, out

925
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 1: of town clothes. So you and Jay obviously are related

926
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: with Joe Don. Did Jay find Joe Don? Who's Who's

927
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: what was that?

928
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 4: So Jay was the.

929
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 5: Band leader for Shelley, right, and then he hired uh

930
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 5: Joe Don to play guitar for Shelley And so he

931
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 5: had j been telling me about Joda on how you

932
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 5: Know High ten and how Grady scenes and plays. So

933
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 5: he came down at the Filling Steel Guitar Bar one

934
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 5: night and our guitar player didn't show up, so he

935
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 5: invited jod On in and we did h Church on

936
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 5: the Cumberland Road. It was the first song we ever did,

937
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 5: and the rest was history. We were like, wow, I

938
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 5: don't know what that was, but that was I mean,

939
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 5: it was just it was incredible. So we asked him and.

940
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 4: That was that.

941
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: How quickly until you had a name?

942
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 5: Though it took a while because we were because I

943
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 5: think Jaybert and I were going by Deuces Wild and

944
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 5: then there was three of us in there, so deuces

945
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 5: Wild didn't make any sense. And then you know it

946
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 5: was hard to come up with a name. And uh

947
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 5: but we we sat there and we were thinking, so

948
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 5: we're ok Ohio because Joe nas from Oklahoma. It's just terrible.

949
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 4: And then so it was awful.

950
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 5: And so this piano player named Jelly Roll was in

951
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 5: town or was playing with us, and he was like, man,

952
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 5: back in the sixties, I used to have a band

953
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 5: called Rascal Flats. And we're like, what's it mean, Jelly

954
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 5: He was like, hell, I don't know, no idea. We

955
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 5: were like all right, So we literally rode on a napkin, uh,

956
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 5: and we paid him five hundred bucks for the name,

957
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 5: so if it did work, we could get sued later.

958
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 4: So that's the story.

959
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: And how quickly that you guys were like, Okay, we're

960
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: going to do this until you actually started to make

961
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: any sort of money from it into tea bigger than

962
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: just a bar, meaning a record label.

963
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 4: How it was.

964
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: Did that happen pretty quick? When people heard of you?

965
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, there was a see so I moved

966
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 5: to town February ninety eight and we got signed in

967
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 5: ninety nine. And then but we were humping I mean,

968
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 5: we were killing it every night. We were playing somewhere

969
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 5: every night. And then yeah, so but we were working

970
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 5: for tips only and then we got paid forty bucks

971
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 5: a night and then so the first real money was

972
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 5: was when we signed our deal with Lyric Street Records.

973
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: Yep, do you guys ever baby act for anybody as

974
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 1: that third act where they really were like, hey, we'll

975
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: look out.

976
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 5: For you, you know what all of them did really

977
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 5: and that was like our first tour ever was Jody

978
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 5: Messina and Jody kind of did that for us. And

979
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 5: then it was Toby Keith. Toby really took us under

980
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,959
Speaker 5: his wing. And then Brooks and Done. I mean, really,

981
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 5: you go out there and try to steal everything that

982
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 5: they've got their fans, you learn so much. And then

983
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 5: Brooks and Done and then I mean they all kind

984
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 5: of took us under their wing and really showed us

985
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 5: the ropes and you know, how to put a tour

986
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 5: together and how to treat fans.

987
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 4: And you know, because we were on that the Brooks and.

988
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 5: Done thing where they had jugglers and stuff all day long,

989
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 5: you know, so yeah, we I mean we learned from

990
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 5: all of them. All of thems kind of kind of

991
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 5: took them and took us under their wing and really

992
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 5: showed us the ropes. And they were I forget who

993
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 5: it was that told us. They were like, see all

994
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 5: those fans out there, you need to go steal every

995
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 5: single one of them.

996
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: Oh that's cool, we'll try. That's cool.

997
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 4: And that's what we told everybody that's open for us

998
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 4: since then.

999
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: The how they remembew the EP when it comes out.

1000
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: Why do you name song PEP different people give me

1001
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 1: different ones? Why do you name the whole project after

1002
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: a song?

1003
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 4: You know? I don't know. I guess just because it's easy.

1004
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 5: It's the first thing and it's hard to encompass, like

1005
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 5: because all of it has a different feel and the

1006
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 5: whole body of work feels different, you know.

1007
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 4: Let's you know, but something like the.

1008
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 5: Craftmanship record that would have been the other time Spent record.

1009
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: You guys had seven Do you have seven songs on

1010
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: this thing? Did all? Is it a rule that three

1011
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: of three of you have to agree on the song

1012
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: or two or three? What's the what's the dynamic there?

1013
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 5: Pretty much? Yeah, pretty much? And then but I'll get

1014
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 5: in there sometimes just come in. I just I hate

1015
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 5: the song.

1016
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 4: I'm not doing it.

1017
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: You ever done that to a song? It ended up

1018
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: being a massive hit where it's like I don't know

1019
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: if this is the one.

1020
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 4: I'm sure there, I'm sure there.

1021
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 5: Jay's probably been the worst at that Jays because he's

1022
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 5: like songs like no, I'm not doing that, you know,

1023
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 5: like like Sarah Beth, you know about skin.

1024
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 4: I don't want to sing about cancer. I don't want

1025
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 4: to do you know, it's a tough subject. I don't

1026
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 4: want to sing about it.

1027
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 5: It's a hit, and it's happened a couple other times

1028
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 5: we were like, hey, Jay whatever other songs that you hate, man.

1029
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: That'd be great.

1030
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 4: Let the Yeah.

1031
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 1: So you and Jamie Fox have been friends for a while.

1032
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 4: Huh m hmm, yep, long time.

1033
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: You guys just sit around Jamie's house singing.

1034
00:45:58,920 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 4: We did all the time.

1035
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: You know, how'd you guys become friends?

1036
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 5: He I got a deal offered to me by Capitol

1037
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 5: Records in early on, like a pop deal, And so

1038
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 5: I went to LA and my old manager at that

1039
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 5: time used to work for Jamie, and so ended up

1040
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 5: going there, staying there, and uh after I turned that

1041
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 5: deal down, I ended up just staying living with Jamie

1042
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 5: for a few months, just staying with him.

1043
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 4: And then we're just and he had just lived together.

1044
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 5: Just started the w he started, just started the Jamie

1045
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 5: Fox Show on the WB and so he was just

1046
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 5: getting going. I mean, his comedy stuff was happening. But

1047
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 5: he's truly one of the most he might be the

1048
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 5: most talented person I've ever seen. He's great at absolutely everything.

1049
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 5: I mean not just great, but I mean sets the

1050
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 5: bar for I mean comedy talent, I mean his the

1051
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 5: way he plays piano, and I mean he's just and

1052
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 5: and he loves music. He loves country music. He loves

1053
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 5: all genres of music and he can act. I mean,

1054
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 5: it's just it's not fair. It's not fair at all.

1055
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: It sounds like he's a good dude too. He's a

1056
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: great dude, which sucks you kind of.

1057
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 4: Want to hate someone. Yeah, he's from Texas.

1058
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: I never liked you, yeah, because it's just you have

1059
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: it all.

1060
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 4: You just you have it all. Yeah, and I'm covening. Yeah,

1061
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 4: I'm envious and I'm covening you.

1062
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: Life is the Highway was never a single, right, It

1063
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: just became a smash kind of because people liked it,

1064
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: which is rare.

1065
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 4: Yep.

1066
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Cars movie, yeah, you know, and then radio

1067
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 5: picked it up because it was just doing so good

1068
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 5: and just kind of they played it.

1069
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 4: But it was never a.

1070
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 1: Single, and really one of the songs that I would

1071
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: assume you guys are associated most with, depending on what

1072
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 1: the age group.

1073
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.

1074
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's funny because I was just just doing a

1075
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 5: singing with a buddy of mine, Jonathan mcgreynod's in the

1076
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 5: Christian world. The gospel world is amazing. He's the same way,

1077
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 5: so talented, so gifted, not fair, coveting, nine neighbor, that's

1078
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 5: what I'm doing on with him too, because it's just ridiculous.

1079
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 5: But anyway, his his assistant who knows nothing about country music,

1080
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 5: never even heard of Rascal Flask But new Life's the Highway.

1081
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, Life's the Highway, the original version. Don't tell me,

1082
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: is it like Eddie cock now who sings lives Highway?

1083
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: Tom Conchran. I get Eddie money and Tom Cochran mixed

1084
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: up because to me, the same person, what's the most

1085
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: profitable song you guys have put out.

1086
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 4: For me?

1087
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 5: The ones I wrote fast Guards, Freedom and I Melt

1088
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 5: and Bob that Head and Summer Nights and all that.

1089
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 5: But you know, I mean, all in all broke, it's

1090
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 5: got to be broken Road or what hurts the most.

1091
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: If someone says, hey, Gary, what are you gonna want

1092
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: you to come? Like my cousin's having a little wedding

1093
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: here and he's you're really important to him, and he says,

1094
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: you sing two songs? Any two songs at the wedding?

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00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 4: What do you pick? Broken Road? In my wish? I mean,

1096
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 4: those are always the ones that they ask it is.

1097
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody asked me to.

1098
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 4: I tried on moving on once but that didn't work.

1099
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably not a.

1100
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 4: Good it wasn't.

1101
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you still get excited because you know the

1102
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: new project's coming out, you get excited it's gonna come

1103
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: out or is it just another day like it's just

1104
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: part of the bro I'm.

1105
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 4: So fired up.

1106
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 5: I'm so excited, more excited that I've been in a

1107
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 5: long time. I'm so excited to have you know, I

1108
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 5: love everything that we did with Flats and being a

1109
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 5: part of that and all of that, and who knows

1110
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 5: what will happen in the future, but I'm so excited

1111
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 5: about just having my own songs that I picked that

1112
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 5: I hand you know, hand picked and helped co produce

1113
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 5: and using you know, different It's just fresh, it's new,

1114
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 5: and it's exciting, and you know it's just uh.

1115
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 4: And singing about the Lord is gonna be awesome.

1116
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 5: I mean, it's been a dream record since I was

1117
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 5: a kid, so, you know, and then the country stuff,

1118
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 5: the country record that'll come after that is you know,

1119
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 5: I mean, I've already got some cut for that that

1120
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 5: just they're great, They're great songs. We live in town

1121
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 5: with the greatest songwriters in the world.

1122
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 6: So right here, hang tight, the Bobby Cast will be

1123
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 6: right back. Welcome back to the Bobby.

1124
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: Cast and finally the guys came back together. And maybe

1125
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: you heard this, but when they were in our studio room,

1126
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: it was the first time those three guys had been

1127
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: together in the same room in five years. And they

1128
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: gave us life updates. They talked about how insanely successful

1129
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: their career was from Rascal Flats back in the day.

1130
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: They did talk about their life as a Highway twenty

1131
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: fifth anniversary retort they're going to do starting in February

1132
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 1: of next year, their favorite songs to play live jodhn Sobriety,

1133
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: and so much more.

1134
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 3: So.

1135
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: Here's the clip of these guys all back together on

1136
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: the Bobby Bones Show. Now, Rascal Flax, we'll look at

1137
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: you guys back together. What a sight to say. You know,

1138
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: I've been screaming about this for about a year now

1139
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: and I don't take credit for it, but I take

1140
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: credit for it. Congratulations, I got you back together. Let's go.

1141
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 1: I'm not getting any percentage though. Uh Let's let's start

1142
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: with you. Gary. When was the call made that we

1143
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: should do this thing again.

1144
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 5: It was a couple of months ago.

1145
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, yeah, I think my wife called you

1146
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 3: and said, you've got to get him out of there.

1147
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 5: Alice Allison called and I said, okay, all right, let's roll.

1148
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: So was it we should do this, Let's feel it

1149
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: out and see if we can everything can align, or

1150
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: and Joe don I'll come to you. Or was it like, yeah,

1151
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: we feel good, let's go a little bit of all that.

1152
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 8: You know, our management talked about it. We leaned on

1153
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 8: them because they know way more than we do with

1154
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 8: how the landscape is today. I mean it's been five years,

1155
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 8: you know, And yeah, and they felt like next year

1156
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 8: in February through April would be good.

1157
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: Did you miss it? Everybody? Did you miss each other?

1158
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: Did you miss wow?

1159
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 4: What?

1160
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: What did you miss? Well?

1161
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 3: I mean I miss playing music. I miss some of

1162
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 3: my most favorite memories in my life. My adult life

1163
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 3: is being on stage with these guys. So yes, when

1164
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 3: it was yanked away from us in twenty twenty, pandemic

1165
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 3: hit and everybody was kind of at a loss. Not

1166
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 3: to be able to put a proper exclamation point on

1167
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 3: our career really hurt. And so you know, I've said

1168
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 3: it my entire life. Gary is one of the best

1169
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 3: singers I've ever heard, and it's really sucks not to

1170
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 3: be standing next to that every night. So I think

1171
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 3: it was a perfect opportunity for us to go out

1172
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 3: and celebrate twenty five wonderful years together. And I'm looking

1173
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 3: forward to seeing our fans because they've given us more

1174
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 3: than we could have ever imagined or hoped for.

1175
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: So the tour has not called it farewell tour, which,

1176
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: by the way, you know we're doing two days with

1177
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: you guys on this show. So tomorrow tickets are on

1178
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: sale and go to Rascal Flats dot com get tickets

1179
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 1: at ten am Eastern war remind you tomorrow as well.

1180
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 1: But it's not called that. Hey, this is our last run.

1181
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: This is called the Life of a Highway tour. So

1182
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: maybe we're not Maybe this isn't a farewell Gary.

1183
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1184
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 2: Are you exactly you got I wanted?

1185
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 5: You got us together?

1186
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 4: How you're our agent?

1187
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1188
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, you made me buy a hat when I came in.

1189
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 2: How much does it was?

1190
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 5: Seventy five dollars? See, we got to go work. Yeah,

1191
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 5: you try to say it's about hurricane relief, and you know,

1192
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 5: I just want to put it in his pocket.

1193
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. That's hurricane relief.

1194
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 4: Yes, I get it.

1195
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: So maybe this this thing just is awesome and you

1196
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: love doing it, maybe you just keep going. Is there

1197
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: a chance this is not the end?

1198
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 3: I think that's why we didn't call it a farewell tour.

1199
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 3: We're going to see how these twenty two shows go.

1200
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 3: We're gonna stick our toe back in the water, and

1201
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 3: if the fans seem to love it and we feel

1202
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 3: like there's a demand there, who knows what will happen.

1203
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 3: Right now, the focus is on February and March and

1204
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 3: next year.

1205
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: Have you Jodana, you rehearse at all? All three of

1206
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: you guys? Have you done anything musically?

1207
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 4: Yeah? You know what.

1208
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 8: We did some auditions for some new band mates actually

1209
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 8: last Tuesday and it went great, the three new guys and.

1210
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,720
Speaker 2: Of your Body guy that's taking my places.

1211
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 8: I was hoping we could just AI this stuff like holograms,

1212
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 8: but no. But the rehearsals went great, and it was

1213
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 8: nice to be back with Jay and our drummer Jim Riley,

1214
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 8: who's been with us for twenty five years the whole

1215
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 8: time he was there, and just to play through the

1216
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 8: music again. I mean, it's you know, it's a lot

1217
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 8: of music and blessed to have some songs that I

1218
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 8: think were.

1219
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: Impactful, rushed people where you rusted. Oh yeah, but I

1220
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: mean you guys have played I know Gary been doing shows.

1221
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: You haven't seen you do shows, but.

1222
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: It's been playing keys most of the time.

1223
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 3: Then getting getting my fingers back on the bass again

1224
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 3: and get into that music was it was surreal and frightening.

1225
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: Did you practice before you guys, did your your deal

1226
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: together or do you just show up and be like,

1227
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out as we go. We've done this

1228
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: lot many times.

1229
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 3: The night before I kind of listened back through the

1230
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 3: music and kind of played around for this is the

1231
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 3: first time the three of us have been together in

1232
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 3: the same room in five years.

1233
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: Wait together at the same time.

1234
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 8: No, Gary, wasn't there actually classic kicking things all right?

1235
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: Perfectly classic Gary.

1236
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, he couldn't make it. But working through musically,

1237
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,439
Speaker 8: is there what we need to do? And hire those

1238
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 8: new band guys And it worked out great. But uh

1239
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 8: it like Jay was saying, yeah, I I've got a

1240
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 8: lot of cobwebs in these hands. You know, it's been

1241
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 8: a while. I've kind of gotten away from music for

1242
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 8: you know, a lot of different reasons. And but I'm

1243
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 8: back and I'm definitely trying to practice as much as

1244
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 8: I can at the house. And my son Jagger is sixteen.

1245
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 8: He's eating alive with music and he's actually gotten me

1246
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 8: back into, you know, jamming with him, which has been fabulous.

1247
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: Gary, do you practice singing at all?

1248
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 4: Are you good?

1249
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: You know i'd sing all the time?

1250
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 5: Good?

1251
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 4: I do? I really? I do?

1252
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 7: Know?

1253
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 1: You literally do? I realize, Like Gary's been at my

1254
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: house and he's like singing, and I'm like, wow, he

1255
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: really does what I would do if I could sing

1256
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: like that. It's all the time. Does your wife ever

1257
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: really say, hey, yo, bro, we're good?

1258
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah all the time? Yeah, like we got it,

1259
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 5: we got it, We're good.

1260
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 4: You love it?

1261
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: You still love you love it?

1262
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 5: I do, man, I do.

1263
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1264
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 5: I feel like that's what God's called me to do.

1265
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 5: So I just you know, I'm not going to stop

1266
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 5: him from doing what he's what He's given us. And

1267
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 5: you know, we're so excited to see all the fans

1268
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 5: and all the demand has been crazy, so it's been, Uh,

1269
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a blast.

1270
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: What's this like for you three guys sitting here? I

1271
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: didn't realize was the first time in five years because

1272
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: I think I'd be a little nervous if we hadn't

1273
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: done this and we're like, let's say me, Amiy and

1274
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: Lunchbox that have been together, we've been together twenty something years.

1275
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, after they said that, I thought, I can't

1276
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 7: imagine not seeing y'all or being in the same room

1277
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 7: for five years and then suddenly at an interview or

1278
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 7: coming on the show, this being the first time y'all

1279
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 7: are sitting together and us doing that. Like, I'm trying

1280
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 7: to think how I would feel, well, nervous driving up here.

1281
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I'll be very honest about that.

1282
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1283
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 8: I missed being around These guys are two of the

1284
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 8: funniest people I've ever been around in my life, and

1285
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 8: just so many memories, so many wonderful memories. And it

1286
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 8: hasn't all been rosy. I'm not gonna, you know, sugarcoat it,

1287
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 8: but it's it's so good to be back in the

1288
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 8: same room together and see Gary and hug him and

1289
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 8: be together again. It's really special.

1290
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: Like, like, what songs do you even like to play?

1291
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: You have so many? Like what's so because I think

1292
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: I like the ballads? Yeah, yeah, because I like the

1293
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: feel ballads?

1294
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: Yeah I do too.

1295
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 4: Well, we've got plenty.

1296
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: You do have a lot.

1297
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 3: We had to force ourselves to put up tempo singles

1298
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 3: out so everybody wouldn't fall asleep, and they came to

1299
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 3: a show.

1300
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 5: A medley of mids and a medle.

1301
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: Ballance, so good night. Let me ask this extremely cliche question, then,

1302
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: what's the one song you're looking forward to playing live?

1303
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: I want a different answer from all three of you.

1304
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: Let's go to you first, Jay.

1305
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 3: Uh Bless the Broken Road. It's always been one of

1306
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 3: my favorites. I think it showcases are blend in our

1307
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 3: harm and he's just about as well as any song

1308
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 3: we've ever done.

1309
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: That's a good one. It's going to be a hit.

1310
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 4: Gary's the Highway.

1311
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: Oh she took my answer that song, and it's been discussed,

1312
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: but I think for younger listeners or fans of your

1313
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,479
Speaker 1: music to hear that song and they go, that song's awesome.

1314
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: It's from cars. It's a big hit. It was never

1315
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: actually a radio.

1316
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 5: Song, huh, It's true.

1317
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: It just it pops so hard that then people just

1318
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: started playing it randomly and is now maybe your most

1319
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:57,919
Speaker 1: streamed song ever.

1320
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 3: I think it started popping off on TikTok and then

1321
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 3: it just started going from there.

1322
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 2: You know.

1323
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: It's interesting how you talk about TikTok. Yeah, I saw

1324
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: you use that accent. Were you just singing with the highway?

1325
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and uh, Tom Cochran just got inducted into

1326
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 5: the Canadian Songwriters Hall of Fame, and so they called

1327
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 5: me and asked me that if I'd go out there,

1328
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 5: and thought I did, and he killed it.

1329
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 2: He named his farm flats farm that he bought.

1330
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, because he made so much money all

1331
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: you guys, Yeah, I wonder I just we.

1332
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 4: Just kept saying you're welcome all night. Just you're welcome.

1333
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 5: Tom.

1334
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: You think he made more money off you guys doing

1335
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: it than him doing it?

1336
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely helped.

1337
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, dang, that's pretty cool. Yeah, do you guys

1338
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: mechanical do you guys make mechanical world off that a

1339
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: little bit? But mostly goes to him.

1340
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 3: Mostly goes to him. Time we get the sound exchange money, but.

1341
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 5: It's in Canadians, it's loonies and tunies and that's what

1342
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 5: the what the conversion.

1343
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 7: Is one on that shall know what year that was

1344
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 7: and like what was it cars two.

1345
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: Thousand and six?

1346
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, good for you.

1347
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,959
Speaker 4: You know, you know what year he wrote it? Eighty

1348
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 4: eighty six, ninety one. That late. Yeah, I didn't realize.

1349
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: I thought it was like much younger than that. Okay,

1350
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: I have more questions about this because I like the

1351
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: dynamic here. We're back together, a bunch of friends. You

1352
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: got like all the Grammys, you have all the number

1353
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: one songs. What else is there to do? Or is

1354
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: what else to do? Just to celebrate what you've done?

1355
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:34,439
Speaker 2: Oh man?

1356
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 3: You know what what I think eluded us that we

1357
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 3: never were able to take home was Entertainer of the Year.

1358
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 3: All those years that we sold, you know, wonderful amounts

1359
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 3: of tickets on all those tours, we never really took

1360
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 3: that trophy home at the ACMs or the CMA's.

1361
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: Sore spot, I mean from it's hard. It's hard you

1362
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: guys were you guys are the biggest thing in pop,

1363
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: not only in pop but country at the same time.

1364
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 3: Will it's it's I wouldn't say sore spot because we've

1365
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 3: been so blessed, but it's the one thing that I

1366
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 3: wish we would have been able to have achieved in

1367
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 3: our career.

1368
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: Do you think it's because there was jealousy because you

1369
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: guys had transcended where your rightful place was, and you

1370
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: didn't try to You didn't try to be this massive

1371
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: pop sensation. Do you think there was jealousy? And so

1372
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: I bet you were held back from that.

1373
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 3: There was a lot of hair envy. Let's be honest.

1374
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 3: Our hair was on point back then, wasn't Gray, you know, magnificent?

1375
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 5: The politics of the business, you know, who knows all

1376
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 5: we can do is we're in charge of trying to

1377
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 5: make and write and record great music and after that,

1378
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 5: who knows?

1379
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 4: You know?

1380
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 5: And for me, I think like Album of the Year two,

1381
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 5: you know, in two thousand and six, and we outsold

1382
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 5: everybody that put out a record in any genre in

1383
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 5: the entire world.

1384
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 3: That's one of my favorite memories. Sitting beside Gary at

1385
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 3: the Grammys in Los Angeles during a commercial break, he

1386
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 3: leaned over to me. It was just a moment that

1387
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 3: he and I shared together, and he whispered. He said, look,

1388
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 3: there's jay Z, there's Beyonce, there's Lady Gaga. And I

1389
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, this is pretty incredible. He said, Now

1390
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 3: I think about this. This year, We've sold more records

1391
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 3: than all of these people in this building. And it

1392
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 3: gave me chills and it was just he and I

1393
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 3: sharing that moment together because you know, two boys growing

1394
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 3: up in Columbus, Ohio, who would have ever dreamed that

1395
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 3: moment would come.

1396
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: And you still didn't win Album of the Year.

1397
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 5: No, no, you can get a performance, but Paisley played ticks.

1398
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 5: I'd like to kick you for true story. We're like,

1399
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 5: what's the most We couldn't even get a performance.

1400
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 4: That's funny.

1401
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in therapys was representing Country Let's go yesterday.

1402
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: I was in therapy talking about how I am. I

1403
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: have a very sore spot. I understand I've been blessed

1404
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: and all the same stuff you guys just said blah

1405
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: blah blah. But I am like so irritated that I

1406
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: haven't hosted the ACMs or CMAS yet. And I've been

1407
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: very close, like three times and on ACMs now I'm

1408
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: like second Banana, Reba doesn't. I'm there with her the

1409
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: whole time, but I'm not the host. But I think

1410
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: both can exist. Well, I'm really irritated and yeah, and

1411
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: and I think it's human nature.

1412
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 5: It's well and you would kill it.

1413
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 4: So I think it's it's time.

1414
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: But I mean it's it's weird that I could that

1415
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: you would think, wow, Rascal fights say they have done

1416
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: it all, all the hits. Yet still, when I asked

1417
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: the question, I kind of wanted to see where the

1418
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: human part of you went, like what is there to do?

1419
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: And it was, Oh, we didn't have Entertainer of the Year. Yeah,

1420
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: and I don't think anybody would have ever even known

1421
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: you didn't.

1422
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 7: Yeah I thought you did.

1423
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.

1424
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, just roll with it.

1425
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 8: It's pretty funny.

1426
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah we did.

1427
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, teach was awesome.

1428
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 3: When the Mandela effect we won. We want we did,

1429
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 3: we want it several times.

1430
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna ask this question in a sensitive way

1431
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: because I said some stuff and I said, I hope

1432
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: you guys tour. I've been saying it forever, but I said,

1433
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: when you do do this tour, don't put out any

1434
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: new music for a bit. What are you guys doing

1435
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: you do a new music? I just gotta be honest.

1436
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: I said that I want to come forth, and I

1437
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: was like, we want you to tour. You have to

1438
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: get back together like we demand it, but don't put

1439
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: out new music. When you do it, let's celebrate you.

1440
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: Then after that tour can put out new music.

1441
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 3: Well, as you well know, it gets harder and harder

1442
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 3: the longer you're together and the longer you were touring,

1443
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 3: because you compete against yourself. There's so many great songs

1444
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 3: in the catalog to play on radio that putting another

1445
01:02:58,120 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 3: new one out just to put a new one out

1446
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 3: is seems a little an exercise and futility.

1447
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: So you said you're not putting a new stuf.

1448
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 2: We're not.

1449
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: We're own to perfect.

1450
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1451
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: The only way I would say that, I think you

1452
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: need to after this tour. But I think this tour

1453
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: is about the celebration and you guys get back together.

1454
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know it's really to celebrate the fans

1455
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 5: forgiving us absolute career.

1456
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 4: I mean, this is the.

1457
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 5: Silver you believe. And we're not just talking about our

1458
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 5: hair color. I'm talking about twenty five years.

1459
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: What's like the moment you look back at jodn have

1460
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,439
Speaker 1: you guys' career and it could be at your height,

1461
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: or it could be when you first started to pop

1462
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: or when you first played your first show together that

1463
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: you look back and you're like, man, if there was

1464
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: like one moment they show, like show me a Rascal

1465
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: Flats moment they showed this moment, what would it be?

1466
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 8: Well, I mean it's like got a top ten list

1467
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 8: for that, you know. But in all honesty, I truly

1468
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 8: mean this. Our work with the Vanderbilt Children's Hospital through

1469
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 8: the years, it's been extraordinary. I mean, that's that's our legacy,

1470
01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 8: and just being able to have a platform, to be

1471
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 8: able to raise the kind of money we're able to

1472
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 8: raise for the hospital and to meet so many amazing families,

1473
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 8: so many amazing children. There's some sad situations obviously, but

1474
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 8: a lot of positive ones too.

1475
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: For me, that's like the ultimate you know, do you

1476
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: guys ever do Letterman?

1477
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, the coldest stage and in any theater in the.

1478
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 3: He picked the most random song off of our record

1479
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 3: because he didn't like any of our singles. He picked

1480
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 3: this I think Still Feels Good is the one that

1481
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 3: he wanted and.

1482
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: Played an album cut on the It was the title

1483
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: the album to.

1484
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 5: The ship there but.

1485
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: On the show what about Leno? Do you ever do Leno?

1486
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 7: Oh?

1487
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, right after Joe Don showed his rear end.

1488
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me that I got us on Leno? Where

1489
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: was your d got it? Got it?

1490
01:04:58,520 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1491
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 5: We did all of them. Conan, I mean, I don't

1492
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 5: there wasn't any that we didn't do.

1493
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've still got the plaque from Leno that says, hey,

1494
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 3: Rascal flats more butts, more showers.

1495
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: They give you a placticea to that.

1496
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's better than the year you just want

1497
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 3: to hanging right in my living room the butt.

1498
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'll just use an example like FGL. Eventually

1499
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: they'll get back together. Eventually. They don't like each other

1500
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: right now, yeah, but they'll get back together at some

1501
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: point because they miss it or they miss like I

1502
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: don't know, do you recommend that they like somehow try

1503
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: to keep some sort of relationship because eventually it's gonna

1504
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: happen regardless. You know.

1505
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 3: It's interesting. I've had a chance to sit down with

1506
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 3: the Restless Road guys and several different duos over the years,

1507
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 3: and especially the past four years, and my advice is

1508
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 3: always to nurture your relationship and take care of it first,

1509
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 3: because a lot of crap from the outside can get

1510
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 3: in and convolute it. And if you don't stay tight,

1511
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 3: and you don't stay honest with each other and care

1512
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 3: about each other, you run the danger of letting the

1513
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 3: business tear you apart and it's the truth of it.

1514
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 2: So with Gary and I it's a little different. We're families.

1515
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 3: We're families, so we've always found a way to stay

1516
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 3: connected and always found a way to care about each other.

1517
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 3: And I think we found a jode on somebody that

1518
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 3: feels as close as family. So you know, it's not

1519
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 3: all a Betta Roses. When you're in a band for

1520
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 3: twenty plus years and you've got three distinct personalities and

1521
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 3: different opinions, you're gonna have disagreements. But I feel like

1522
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 3: we did a very good job for the most of

1523
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 3: the amount of time we were together of trying to

1524
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 3: put our personal pursuits to the side and serving Rascal

1525
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 3: Flats as a whole. And I think that's why we

1526
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 3: were able to have that longevity. Now, we never had

1527
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 3: somebody that cared enough about us to say, why don't

1528
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 3: you guys take a year off, recharge yourselves, go and

1529
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 3: do some things that you guys want to do personally,

1530
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 3: get those out of the way, and then come back

1531
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 3: together in a more healthy environment. We got on the

1532
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 3: machine and the machine did not stop. So I've been

1533
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 3: grateful for the past few years because it's made me

1534
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 3: appreciate what we were able to do together and what

1535
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 3: kind of ride we were actually on together. And now

1536
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 3: I can come back to this and go, this is

1537
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 3: really really special and it's a big part of my

1538
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 3: life that I've missed extremely.

1539
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 2: Over the last few years.

1540
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 3: But I'm glad we had this time because Gary got

1541
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 3: to do what he should have been doing, his own music,

1542
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 3: his own shows. Joe don concentrated on his personal health

1543
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 3: and his well being, and I'm so proud of him.

1544
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 3: I have to say that what this man has come

1545
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 3: through on the other side of it is remarkable, and

1546
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 3: he's a completely different person, and I really really am

1547
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 3: proud of what he's been able to do. And then

1548
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 3: I got to do some things that I've always wanted

1549
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 3: to do. I always felt like I would be good

1550
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 3: on the other side of the business, and I've been

1551
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 3: able to try that with Red Street. So I think

1552
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 3: all of us are stronger now and we have a

1553
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 3: greater appreciation for it, maybe than we did in twenty twenty.

1554
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 1: Joe, No, I think I saw a tweet from you.

1555
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, Sobriety, I liked it, whatever it was,

1556
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 1: Oh thank you, Yeah, I remember liking it. Pushing a

1557
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: little heart so what is your situation now? How long

1558
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:00,040
Speaker 1: you've been so.

1559
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 8: Three years and it's kind of crazy. For my birthday,

1560
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 8: September thirteenth is my actual sober date as well, So

1561
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 8: we got three years and it's it's different, I'll tell

1562
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 8: you that. Grateful to be sober today and present and

1563
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 8: like and I never dreamed that was possible, and I

1564
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 8: wouldn't have been able to do that without this time off.

1565
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,600
Speaker 8: I mean, this past five years, I've just you know,

1566
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 8: I've needed it for a long time and it was

1567
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 8: just finally time and some really great friends in Nashville

1568
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 8: got me the help I needed and I'm forever grateful.

1569
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,640
Speaker 1: Once Gary was in my house and he spit in

1570
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 1: a mountain dew can. First he cut the top off,

1571
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: like the hillbilly he is, yeah, with the pocket knife,

1572
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,560
Speaker 1: and then he was there for a bit and he

1573
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 1: just spitting in the can, Spend in the can, spend

1574
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: the can, just left it And like a day later,

1575
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,759
Speaker 1: my wife's like, why is there a mountain dew can

1576
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: with a bunch of like dip spit in it?

1577
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, told her you should have told her you have

1578
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 5: an issue that you haven't been telling her.

1579
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: Oh that's the greatest memorabilia in Rascal Flat's history, like.

1580
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 2: I have on your man you carry spit tune.

1581
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: I think people don't understand how a country you guys

1582
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: are at times, because again you mentioned the hair earlier,

1583
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 1: like you guys were pretty.

1584
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think there were a lot of years

1585
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 3: you mentioned it where people didn't know what to make

1586
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 3: of us. We were a little on the pop side

1587
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 3: and scared some folks. But when we'd get into a

1588
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 3: conference room on the radio tour, people would I remember this,

1589
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 3: people would drill us and they'd go like, you guys

1590
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 3: don't really know country, and then we'd start singing Merle Haggers.

1591
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: Oh you're as hillbilly as as anybody around here. It's

1592
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:44,640
Speaker 1: just all the hair. Was like, Wow, you guys are

1593
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: so pretty.

1594
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 5: I feel pretty with our hair.

1595
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 1: Look at that.

1596
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 2: That's pretty right there.

1597
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah that's me. That's a that's a cutout. I like

1598
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: to look at myself and go okay. So here's all

1599
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: I want to say. Rascal Flats back on tour. Starting

1600
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 1: off in February, When do you start practicing together? When

1601
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:01,799
Speaker 1: do you start doing the rehearsal?

1602
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:03,600
Speaker 2: Boy in January?

1603
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: Any Pyro, Yeah, we've.

1604
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 3: Taken all of kisses stuff away from them now that's

1605
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 3: they're retired.

1606
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 5: All the bills and whistles?

1607
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: Have you done any of that? You gotta play all

1608
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 1: the hits, right? Can you get all the hits in?

1609
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: We figured we'd do a whole bunch of new material.

1610
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 1: And Letterman show. Can you play all the hits in

1611
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 1: one concert? All the number ones?

1612
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 3: I started kind of scratching out set list the other day,

1613
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 3: and it was fun because we've been away from it

1614
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 3: from a minute for a minute, so some new things

1615
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 3: occurred to me that I never really saw before, and

1616
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 3: they were sitting right in front of me. So I'm

1617
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 3: excited for us to get back in and start hammering

1618
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 3: away at it. And I hope Gary doesn't get mad

1619
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 3: at me for putting too many songs in a row

1620
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:45,759
Speaker 3: that he has to scream.

1621
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: What's the hardest song to sing for you? Gary?

1622
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 5: Oh?

1623
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: Every night you have to sing it. It's but either

1624
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: it gets difficult because you're doing it night after night,

1625
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: or it's just hard to do it once.

1626
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 5: I'm out be one.

1627
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably, that's always for sure.

1628
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 8: That's one of the highest ones.

1629
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 5: That's why we don't do it live.

1630
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 8: But they're all demanding.

1631
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:12,440
Speaker 2: I mean you mean we haven't we are doing that.

1632
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: You can do that Rolling Stones and they get people

1633
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 1: on the back to play the stuff. Yeah yeah, and

1634
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: just like do that. You ever heard somebody impersonate you

1635
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 1: or start to sing like you and they sound just

1636
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 1: like you?

1637
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's true. Shame d J does.

1638
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 1: But like you know the guy from Journey, Oh yeah,

1639
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: he sounds the guy. This things now sounds just like Yeah,

1640
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:35,719
Speaker 1: ever heard anybody online?

1641
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 3: This thing is just like hey, you know what the

1642
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 3: drummer Dean Castronovo is even better than our now is

1643
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 3: and singing in the Journey Oh yeah you know him?

1644
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, as a major like I wouldn't have

1645
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: known that.

1646
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 3: Well we he was. He's been in Journey for a

1647
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 3: long time. We did a Crossroads with him, and also

1648
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 3: the supergroup that I put together back in twenty twenty.

1649
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 3: He played drums on that record and it was remarkable

1650
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 3: to hear him sing that Journey stuff. I mean, they

1651
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 3: offered him the gig before Rnell and he was like, no,

1652
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 3: it's too hard on a singer.

1653
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: I want to tell everybody, tickets go on sell tomorrow,

1654
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: get them, and so yeah, get the life. As a

1655
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: Highway Tour. Go to Rascal Flats dot com. Laura Lane

1656
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 1: and Chris Lane coming out with you guys. Go watch

1657
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 1: them because if you go and they sell out every show,

1658
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 1: they'll do more shows. You heard it here for Thank

1659
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 1: you guys. I love to see you guys back together.

1660
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: I'm super happy for it and I'm really looking forward

1661
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 1: to seeing you guys back on the stage. So they

1662
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:36,719
Speaker 1: are Rascal Flats. Love you, Bobby, Thank you, and there

1663
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,759
Speaker 1: you have it. Thanks for listening to the special episode

1664
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 1: all about Rascal Flats. Go watch them if they come

1665
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: to town. It's such a fun, energetic show with so

1666
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: many songs that you know and also songs that you

1667
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: knew but you're like, oh yeah, I forgot they sang

1668
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 1: that one. It's awesome. All right, Thank you. Be sure

1669
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: to subscribe to the Bobbycast wherever you're listening, and also,

1670
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:55,719
Speaker 1: if you do not mind and you have a few seconds,

1671
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:56,839
Speaker 1: go rate this five stars.

1672
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 6: All right, Thanks guys, thanks for listening to Bobby Cast

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01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:04,160
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