1 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Soon. 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast with Jaguars senior writer John Osher. 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 3: All Right, welcome into this week's Ozone podcast, and I'm 4 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 3: excited to be joined by one of the few local 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 3: guys I've recovered. We were just talking high school sports 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 3: before we went on. Uh, Darius Williams, who played high 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 3: school with Creekside, now cornerback for the Jaguars. I appreciate 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 3: you doing that. That's my first question. You know, it's 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 3: got to be in a way a dream to play 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: for your hometown team. What has that been like? 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: Obviously came to the games when I was younger. 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 4: I was able to serve some some money, You get 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 4: some tickets, you got all my friends. But you know, 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 4: it's it's definitely another thing just just playing at home. 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 4: You know when now my family can just drive down 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 4: the road come see me play rather than take a 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 4: flight or drive or whatever the case may be. So uh, 18 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's always fun and being back home 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 4: and just knowing the city that you grew up in. 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: Big Jaguars fan growing up followed him a little bit, 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: or how would you describe that? 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 4: Noah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say I was a big 23 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 4: Jaguars fan. I would come, Like I said, if I could, 24 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 4: you know, dig up some money to come on. But 25 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 4: uh no, of course I was. I was like a 26 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 4: La Dani and Thomason fan. Okay, man Adrian Peterson. 27 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: So I was followed players more than teams. 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: Correct. 29 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: Now, how did you go from following those guys to 30 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 3: play in corner or or are you running back in 31 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: high school? 32 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 33 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: I did. 34 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: I played a little running back high school. 35 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 4: I played both corner and running back in high school, 36 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 4: but I mean running back. You know, I figured I'm 37 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 4: more of a defensive guy. I'd rather be I'd rather 38 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 4: hit somebody than be hit. So that was my transition. 39 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 4: And obviously my high school coach showed me, you know, 40 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 4: you you got a real good shot, you know, going 41 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 4: to college football playing defense. 42 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: Okay, now we'll get to that in a little bit, 43 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: because your story is fascinating. I know you've told them before, 44 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: but it's such an interesting path. But the l but 45 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: two interceptions the last couple of weeks, what's been going 46 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: right for you? Is that circumstance? Are you playing or 47 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: how would you describe? 48 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 4: Uh No, I just think you know, I'm I'm you 49 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 4: know I'm in my position not to say that, you know, 50 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 4: any other position isn't, but obviously want to do us 51 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 4: best for the team at all times. But you know, 52 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 4: I'm a lot more comfortable. I feel like I could 53 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 4: see a whole lot more stuff at corner, and I 54 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 4: feel like we just were being taught, you know, the 55 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 4: game plans being broken down to us, and we're just 56 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 4: able to go out there and put whatever we see 57 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 4: on film onto the field. 58 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 3: Got now, both of them terrific plays. Pick six gets 59 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: maybe a little more publicity. But which was the better 60 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: play in your opinion? Or maybe it's not a fair. 61 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 4: Question, right, You know, I wouldn't. I wouldn't really say 62 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 4: one was better than the other. I just think, you know, 63 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 4: whenever I could try to make a play, you know, 64 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 4: when when the team needs a play, and I like 65 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 4: that was probably more Buffalo. 66 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: It was kind of a standstill. 67 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 4: I wouldn't even have the greatest game then, but it 68 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 4: was kind of just kind of like a standstill and 69 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 4: was able to make a play, not even thinking that 70 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 4: the offense would just go down the field. 71 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: But you know, it ended up ping. It's giving us 72 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: a lot of momentum. 73 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: Now, stand still there was some wrestling for the ball 74 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: with that play right right? How did that go? Can 75 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 3: you take me through those couple of seconds. 76 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I just at one point, you know, I 77 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 4: just was running. Obviously we're in a deep post the 78 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 4: other side of the field. I just saw the ball, 79 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 4: so I just really turned to the receiver. So Stefan 80 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 4: went up for it. I didn't even think he was 81 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 4: right there. I just thought I was gonna be the 82 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 4: main one thought. 83 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 3: I jumped before him a little bit of a tie, right, 84 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: and I felt. 85 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: His hands on it. 86 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 4: Like it just was like, oh shoot, like we all 87 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 4: know how offense, like, we all know the game is right, 88 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 4: so if we both come down with this thing. That 89 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 4: was the only thing I was thinking, like literally right 90 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 4: there in that second, I was like, if we both 91 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 4: come down with this. 92 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: It's going to him so soon I gotta win. 93 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 4: Like as soon as it hit the ground, I just 94 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 4: tried to rip like as hard as I could. 95 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: Okay, that's just one of those moments that you know, 96 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: when are you talking to NFL player, Sometimes you just 97 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: got to make a play, and that was one of 98 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: those moments. Right now, A pick six. Take me through 99 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: the moment when you know it's six, meaning you play 100 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 3: a long time, there's only so many pick sixes that 101 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: you get. What kind of moment is that? 102 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a great moment. Yeah. 103 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 4: I mean obviously as soon as I picked it, you know, 104 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 4: I tried to hit straight our sideling because I knew 105 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 4: nobody's gonna be there. But obviously just just having a 106 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 4: pick six is just big, just big energy for the team. Sure, 107 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 4: you know, and I think too that kind of kind 108 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 4: of drops another team off, like their morale goes down 109 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 4: a little bit. And that's really the best part of it, 110 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 4: is just bringing a minimum and dropping the morale. 111 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: Now did you enjoy the Andy's room celebration. 112 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: With Oh yeah, it was real cool. 113 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 3: Now it again to me through it for people who 114 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 3: don't know after Darius's uh pick six, they didn't and 115 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 3: your room celebration, I assume that that was in your 116 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 3: wheelhouse growing up toy story right, absolutely? Okay, so when 117 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 3: they come to you with that beforehand, take me through that. 118 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 3: Did Zay come to you guys with it saying you 119 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 3: guys got to do this? 120 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: No, it was actually Ciscom. 121 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 4: So Cisco told us like, look, we got this toy 122 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 4: story theme going on, So he was like, like, whoever 123 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 4: scores He basically threw out there. He's like, whoever scores 124 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 4: got to do the andy, you gotta walk from the 125 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 4: room and everybody plays dead. 126 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 3: Now did everybody know immediately what he was talking about? Yeah, okay, 127 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 3: so all you guys had grown up on it. Toy 128 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 3: story is part of you when you're six or seven 129 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 3: years old. 130 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, everybody knew. So from the spot on, 131 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 4: everybody's like, oh, yeah, that's what we're doing. 132 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 3: Okay, that's pretty cool. I mean, that's that's I'm too 133 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 3: old for it. But my son, you know, of course, 134 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 3: he's twenty seven best in you guys age, he also 135 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: would have gotten it immediately. So that was a very 136 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: very cool thing. Why is the defense playing so well 137 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: together this year? 138 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 4: I just think, you know, it always comes probably with 139 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 4: that second year. You know, that first year, you know, coach. 140 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: You're just trying to figure out players, vice versa. 141 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 3: And two. 142 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: I just think we. 143 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 4: Got a taste of what we actually could be from 144 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 4: last year. So I think we're all just trying to 145 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 4: ride off that momentum, right off that high and now. 146 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: We know when we believe, you know, we could be 147 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: a defense, and. 148 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 4: I think it's just all and that's just our team 149 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 4: in general, and I think it's all just coming together. 150 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,679 Speaker 3: So don't want to circle back on that. You said 151 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 3: the interception gets Buffalo and maybe not the greatest game 152 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: before that for you, How does a corner do that? 153 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 3: Meaning have a couple of plays. It's a tough league 154 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 3: for your position, and yet you come back and you've 155 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: got to maintain confidence. It's easy to say that, but 156 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: how do you do it? 157 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: Right? I mean, that's that's how you got to be built. 158 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 4: So you can't you can't think it's either a feast 159 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 4: or famine, like you either a dog or you're not, 160 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 4: so like regardless of you know, obviously you know. 161 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: The game is good. 162 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 3: Coaches are good. 163 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 4: They know how to scheme up stuff, they know how 164 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 4: to do stuff. So you just all always one play 165 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 4: can change the game, you know, and you always just 166 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 4: got to stay in the game. There's there's not ever 167 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 4: a reason why you think like you gotta be down, 168 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 4: you can't make a play, and then you got teammates 169 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: that are gonna pick you up. 170 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: Like I got some of the best players on our team. 171 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 4: We got great edge rushers, we got great secondary guys. 172 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: We got Tyson Cambell on the other side, so we 173 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 4: got guys that can pick up everybody else, right, So 174 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 4: there's no reason, like number one is just to let 175 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 4: them down by thinking you're just having a bad game. 176 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: So you always just got to stay in it. 177 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: So it's one thing to give up a play, but 178 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 3: it's worse to have that play cause you to give 179 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: up other plays. 180 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 4: Right, and then just to think like you would let 181 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 4: your team, Like I'm never gonna think like I'm always 182 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 4: gonna try to fight to the last minute, Like I'm 183 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 4: not gonna think to ever let my team down because 184 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 4: something's bad happening. And then me too, I'm thinking if 185 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 4: these people know, like if they think that they can 186 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 4: pick on me and they're just having their way with me, 187 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: and like it's gotta keep coming. So I got it, 188 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 4: Like if I tap in, I can make a play, right, 189 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 4: and I can just make the play when it counts. 190 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: Gotcha. 191 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: Now you already know your story, but I'm gonna kind 192 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: of go over it and hit the high points Creek 193 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: side start. Then you went to Marietta College Division III, 194 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: went and tried out at UAB Craig had to ask 195 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: for the tryout and had a hard time getting. 196 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: It right right, didn't get it, didn't get it, didn't 197 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: get it, So how did you eventually get it? 198 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: Just kind of kept at it. 199 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 4: Whoever the coach was in twenty fourteen unfortunately got fired Bill, 200 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 4: but fortunately for you for me, Bill Clark came in 201 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 4: that spring and he was a brand new coach and everything, 202 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 4: and then he was on that made it. 203 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 3: Then they dropped the program. At this point, you're saying, 204 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: what the heck's going on? But you came back to 205 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: f SCJ for a short time and then went back 206 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: when UAB started again then undrafted. How do you stay through? 207 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: I mean, how do you keep going? And I know 208 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: you've asked that. I've talked about that before, but that's 209 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: a tough road. 210 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 4: I Mean, the real and truest answer I can give 211 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 4: is is I'm a big believer in faith. I'm a 212 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 4: big man of God. So one thing is just biggest, 213 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 4: It's big to trust. And that's all I did, really 214 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 4: was I just trusted in God, trust in the situation. 215 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 4: And I never let you know any any adversity or 216 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 4: anything that I was going through effect like what I 217 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 4: think that He has for me and what I know 218 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 4: that He has for me. And that's really the truest 219 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 4: answer I can give, sure, because that's that's what I do. 220 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: Like I'm read my Bible. I'm always faithful. 221 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 4: You know, adversities are goncome, things are gonna hit in 222 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 4: your life, and all I do is I just know 223 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 4: God is gonna be there, Like He's going to do 224 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 4: whatever I need when that time is right on him. 225 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: Now. At this point, during this your DEA, F, S, CJ, 226 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 3: and football must feel like a long way away. Are 227 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 3: you still thinking NFL? Or are you just thinking I 228 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 3: want to go play, I want to have my education 229 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 3: or where's your head at that point? 230 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 4: Yes, I was just really thinking like if the opportunity came, 231 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 4: which you know I was. I was really thinking like, nah, 232 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 4: I don't want to go to another school that was 233 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 4: number one, So I'm like three schools Like that's not me. 234 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 4: Like I'm more of like a like family orient a 235 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 4: guy when I stick with the same type team whatever 236 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 4: sing players. Uh So really I was thinking I don't 237 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 4: want to go that route. So I was like, if 238 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 4: the opportunity ever did present stuff, I don't know how, 239 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 4: but I was like, shoot, if it does, it does 240 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 4: if it doesn't, then I'm just focused on school. 241 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: I got you. So you weren't sure that you even 242 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 3: wanted to keep it going. You weren't ready to quit, 243 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 3: but you weren't sure that correct, But that was where 244 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 3: the path was taken yet. 245 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: Nice. 246 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 3: I got you at peace during that time with that. 247 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely okay, yeah, one hundred percent and UAB starts up 248 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: again and you're like, Okay, I'm gonna give this. 249 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 3: One more shot. 250 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 251 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 4: My coach call, he was like, first I was, I 252 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 4: was at my job and my co worker like, obviously 253 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 4: the programming just got cut maybe like four months before, 254 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 4: five months before that. 255 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: My co worker he was like, yeah, man, they brought 256 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: back ua B. I was like no. It was like 257 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: he was like, no, for really they brought it back. 258 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: I was like what. 259 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 4: Literally as soon as I stopped talking to him, my 260 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 4: old DC had called me and he was like, yo, 261 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 4: you just about the program back. 262 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: You want to come back? 263 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: And I was like so he was going back to yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, 264 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: I got you. I want to walker, So the same 265 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 3: coaching was going to be back correct, Okay, So he's 266 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: waiting for the opportunity, And did you think at that 267 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 3: point or I guess I said this way. At what 268 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: point during this because again you started getting pushed away 269 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 3: from it a little bit through no fault to your own, 270 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: at what point do you start thinking maybe the league 271 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 3: is possible. 272 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: I mean I didn't. 273 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 4: I didn't have my eyes really set just on the 274 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 4: NFL until I guess you could say twenty fourteen, before 275 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 4: the programming I could. 276 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: I had it. I was walking on and had a. 277 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 4: Pretty good little season, and then when we came back, 278 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 4: they put me in like the number one jersey because 279 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 4: it's like you're like the best player on the team, 280 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: so or we're gonna give you that recognition. So I'm like, oh, 281 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: so they think highly of me. So you know, I 282 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 4: just was always praying. I was like, man, like I'm 283 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 4: gonna have a good year. 284 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: Whatever that year is. 285 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: That kind of thing can change your outlook, right. 286 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 4: Right, And I was just always saying like, I'm gonna 287 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 4: have a good year, like whatever it is. And that 288 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 4: year even started off a little rough, and then towards 289 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 4: the end of my like that last year I had, 290 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 4: it was just it just took off, and I just 291 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 4: remember everybody was like, man, you're gonna go to the league, 292 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 4: gonna go to the league. 293 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 3: You. 294 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 4: I was like, nah, Like, if it is like it 295 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 4: is and as will, then it is. But if it 296 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 4: isn't a will, and then I'm not gonna lie. I 297 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 4: remember a scout like he came and talked to me. 298 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 4: It was like, you know, you probably you probably won't 299 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,599 Speaker 4: be anything but a practice squad guy. Like he was 300 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 4: trying to be honest, which I respected, but at the 301 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 4: same time, he didn't really know me. So I was like, 302 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 4: you don't even know how hard I work. You don't 303 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 4: know what I put in and out. 304 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: On the field. 305 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 4: But he had told me it was like, yeah, you 306 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 4: you probably only gonna last, you know, a year on 307 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 4: practice squad in the league. And that really fired me 308 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 4: up because I'm like, in this world, like you. 309 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: Know, people are like. 310 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 4: Like they try to, I guess, label you before you 311 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 4: even before you even know you. So that really fired 312 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 4: me up. So once I got my opportunity for the Ravens, 313 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 4: I just took off with it. 314 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 3: Got you now, I assume the answer is very much so, 315 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 3: But how much does all that help you and shape 316 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: you as a person, player, et cetera. 317 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 4: I mean that's what you say, because like I said, 318 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 4: like I'm a big believer, So I always say, like, 319 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: you know, God's gonna label me and and now all 320 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 4: I do is work just for his glory, right and 321 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 4: then just for the glory of the team. So uh, 322 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 4: like you said, like, I'm always gonna put at work. 323 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 4: I'm always gonna try to do extra, even if it's 324 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 4: not to where people are seeing it. Like I don't 325 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 4: have to do stuff in public or do stuff to 326 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 4: have it be seen and let don't know that I'm working. 327 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 4: But I mean that's that's always my goal is to 328 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 4: be the best at whatever I do. 329 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 3: Got you being a part of this meaning the jag 330 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: Wars sort of rising a little bit or a lot 331 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: since for you guys got here being from here understanding 332 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 3: this team. What does it mean for you to be 333 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: a part of it right now? 334 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's special. 335 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 4: It's always special, you know, to be a part of 336 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 4: something that's that's bigger than even bigger than yourself. So, 337 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 4: I mean, we got guys that are gonna be out 338 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 4: here on this team for a long time, like like 339 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 4: sixteen sure, Uh, you know, we got Tyson Campbell. We 340 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 4: got guys that's just got legacies lead and you know, 341 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: it's it's always cool to help start a whole new road, 342 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 4: you know, especially with the Jags and like a little 343 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 4: history they had. But then again, you gotta think we're 344 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 4: not like you can't ever be just satisfied on what 345 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 4: we've done so far. So we're still chasing a whole 346 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: lot more. But it's it's fun to be a part of. 347 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: I think we do. It's it's real quick to call 348 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: it the zone five five very quick questions. What's your 349 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: current binge watch? Oh? 350 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 4: My current binge watch? I got a lot. I don't 351 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 4: know if I got just one. I'm on the I'm 352 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 4: on the challenge R now, I had a low key yeah, 353 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 4: probably wouldn't know. 354 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: This got Uh the last song you listened to in 355 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: the car on the way in this morning. 356 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: Of the Gospel song? 357 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: Uh? First Jaguars memory anything you're growing up? Any stand out? 358 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: Uh? Fred Taylor? For some reason, Fred Taylor. 359 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: He had some vivid memories. Best opponent you've ever played 360 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: as in team or player player? 361 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm a I'm a big fan of Mark Cooper. 362 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 4: I think if he if he just wanted to be 363 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 4: as crazy as he could. 364 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: Be, he would he would dominate. 365 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 3: Uh, A person or people most responsible for you. 366 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 4: Being here obviously, God, my family, friends, everybody all that support. 367 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Darius, I can't thank you enough on a on 368 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: a busy week coming back from Monday not to do this. 369 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: I enjoyed it, and I think the fans are gonna 370 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 3: enjoy listening to your New Zone podcast. Thank you very much, Yes, sir, 371 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: thank you