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Speaker 1: In the Lab, a Texans podcast that takes a different

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Speaker 1: look at things. Drew Doherty and John Harris have their

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Speaker 1: lab coats and goggles on and the Bunsen burners burning.

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Speaker 1: Here's Drew.

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Speaker 2: Welcome one, Welcome all. This is in the Lab. I'm

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Speaker 2: Drew Doherty and we've got a fun one today. It's

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Speaker 2: action pack jam packed because we've got a lot of

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Speaker 2: people to talk with. Will Anderson Junior, the defensive end.

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Speaker 2: He gets weird with me right off the bat. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna hit him with some weird ones. But before we

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Speaker 2: get into that, I want to make sure you subscribe

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Speaker 2: and send questions on Twitter at Doherty Drew at Jay

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Speaker 2: Harris Football. We love hearing from you. But we're gonna

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Speaker 2: talk to Will. We're also gonna hook up with John

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Speaker 2: Harris to our weekly in the Lab. Then gonna go

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Speaker 2: get some Denver insight and for that we're gonna call

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Speaker 2: upon a guy who used to play for the Broncos

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Speaker 2: as well as for the Texans. His name's Nick Ferguson,

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Speaker 2: defensive back. Spent a decade in the NFL from two

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Speaker 2: thousand through two thousand and nine. And after we talk

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Speaker 2: with Nick, gonna chit chat with Phil Malani. He works

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Speaker 2: for the Denver Broncos. Broncos TV does a lot of

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Speaker 2: what similar stuff that I do, so he's a perfect

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Speaker 2: guy to chitchat with about what's going on in Denver.

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Speaker 2: But first up, Will Anderson Junior, rookie defensive Then it's

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Speaker 2: my first time to interview him since I was standing

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Speaker 2: next to him and next to on the other side

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Speaker 2: of me, CJ. Stroud in Kansas City moments after those

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Speaker 2: two picked second and third overall soup. With all that

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Speaker 2: in mind, naturally, here was my first question out of

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Speaker 2: the gate, Will Anderson Junior. Let's get serious or let's

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Speaker 2: not get serious. You got a barbell forty five pounds.

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Speaker 2: How many toddlers if they were to hold onto that barbelle?

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Speaker 3: Do you think you could bench press?

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Speaker 4: Are we talking about bench press? I didn't even vented

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Speaker 4: the curbine probably.

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Speaker 3: And toddler's weigh what twenty five pounds roughly?

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Speaker 4: I would probably say three on each side. What's that?

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Speaker 3: I bet you could do more than that, you think?

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Speaker 2: So six six toddlers with the barbelle h you crack

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Speaker 2: out about thirty reps with those?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know about thirty.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of weightlifting, what's your favorite what's your favorite exercise

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Speaker 2: to do in the gym with that one.

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Speaker 4: I'm a big lower body guy, so like I like squats, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I really do, and like enjoy like power clean, hand clean,

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Speaker 4: things like that, Like just things that like just keep

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Speaker 4: my body moving, like my lower body, of course, and

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Speaker 4: just keep it as explosive as possible. I find those things,

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Speaker 4: you know, more fun to do than everybody.

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Speaker 3: What are you on the inside?

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Speaker 2: Maybe when they say, okay, it's time to do this one,

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Speaker 2: you're like, I'm gonna do it, but I'd rather do

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Speaker 2: something different.

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Speaker 4: I would say, bitch for sure, bench for sure. It's

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Speaker 4: been like that since high school.

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Speaker 3: I gotcha. There's various two clear camps.

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Speaker 2: When it comes to what I've I've asked the player,

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Speaker 2: there's this question. Some of them love bench, some of

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Speaker 2: them love squat. It's it's like one of the other.

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Speaker 2: So complete this sentence. When Blank talks, I am listening.

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Speaker 4: Well, my mom talks. I'm listening.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when's last time you talked with her?

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Speaker 4: Yesterday? Right before she left her and my dad went

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Speaker 4: my dad did, and of course they came down for

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Speaker 4: the game. But you know, she's always just trying to

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Speaker 4: keep me involved in the community, helped me out in

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Speaker 4: any way possible, you know, just to always remember where

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Speaker 4: a phenomenal mom.

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Speaker 2: Where would we be without our mothers? It's a it's

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Speaker 3: Where would we be without our sisters? I got two sisters,

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Speaker 3: You've got some sisters. What's something that your sisters remind

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Speaker 4: Probably just being annoying, just being annoying.

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Speaker 3: You mean, you're more annoying than they are, or they're

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Speaker 4: They're they're more annoying than me. They're just like little Hyaenas,

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Speaker 4: Like it's so many of them, you know how Hyena's

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Speaker 4: like they're always around. That's how my sisters.

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Speaker 3: Lik so you're the lion and they're the hyenas.

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Speaker 2: Huh okay, okay, Well with that in mind, you love

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Speaker 2: the hyenas. Your sisters, which teammate would you never let

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Speaker 2: date one of your sisters?

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Speaker 4: I will probably say I don't know. That's a good question.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of different because it's like everybody here is

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Speaker 4: But always in college, I almost definitely say Brian.

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Speaker 3: Branch Okay, no, I know who is. Yeah, No, that's good.

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 2: That's a good answer. And that's all we got to say. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we just brought up lions, we just brought up hyaenas.

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Speaker 2: Let's say you can have any animal in the wild.

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Speaker 2: It can be your pet. It's never gonna go crazy,

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Speaker 2: Like it's never gonna the tiger doesn't go tight, never

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Speaker 2: gonna go crazy. You don't have to worry about picking

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Speaker 2: up it's poop. What would you want as a pet?

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Speaker 2: Any animal all time?

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Speaker 4: Any animal all time. Oh, that's a good question. I

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Speaker 4: would probably say a wild dog. Yeah, yeah, Like they're

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Speaker 4: very instinctive, Like I watch a lot of animal playing

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Speaker 4: and they're very smart dogs. And I think if you

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Speaker 4: That'd be really good dogs, like super dogs. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: like super dogs. Yeah, I got you.

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Speaker 3: Do you have dogs yourself?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I have a whole bunch of dogs.

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Speaker 3: Really? What types?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, how many you got?

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Speaker 4: Seven?

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Speaker 3: You have seven dogs? Do they walk you or do

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Speaker 3: you walk them?

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Speaker 4: They walk me, but they walk with my dad right now.

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Speaker 3: Do you have to be careful like getting your arm

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because they just pull like they're very strong, big

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Speaker 4: and they're still puppies right now, so like it's crazy

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they snugly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're really good, like like they're not like aggressive

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those are like the best type of dogs. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: just hanging around you on the couch all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you wave your finger on the field after a

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Speaker 2: big play. What's the inspiration because there's a lot different

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Speaker 2: people that have done that. The pass where'd you get

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Speaker 2: your inspiration for that one.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I didn't really give it from nobody.

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Speaker 4: I think it just it was just like already, like

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Speaker 4: like just a part of my game. Like I don't know,

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Speaker 4: like I just started doing it in college. Yep, like

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Speaker 4: the first time my freshman year. Is something happened. I

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Speaker 4: just did it, and I just stuck with it and

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Speaker 4: I just do it all the time. But like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was just natural.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, being to HOUSTONI was seen to Kenba Mutumbo do

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Speaker 2: that on the court, saw JJ do it on the

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Speaker 2: football fields. It's fun to see that. We're gonna speak

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Speaker 2: this into existence. So last week, sitting in that chair

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Speaker 2: across from me was Blake Cashman. He goes out he

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Speaker 2: has nineteen tackles. Okay, the week before Noel Brown one

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty plus just rips up the Bengals. So

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Speaker 2: we're speaking things into existence. You're gonna have a monster game.

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Speaker 2: You are going to score a touchdown this week? When

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Speaker 2: you score, how will you celebrate? Will Anderson?

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Speaker 4: Ooh? I like that. In my head, I want to

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Speaker 4: do a backflip, but physically I cannot do a backflip.

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Speaker 4: So I probably celebrated my teammates and probably spiked the ball.

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Speaker 3: Good spike.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So when you saw Tyreek Hill do the backflip

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Speaker 4: That was crazy. That was insane. Yeah, that's like just

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Speaker 4: could do that.

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Speaker 3: Pads and a helmet on.

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Speaker 4: He's doing that.

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Speaker 3: Just in general, he's doing that and with pads and

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Speaker 3: a helmet. Who's been the.

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Speaker 2: Most challenging offensive lineman you've ever faced NFL college anywhere.

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Speaker 4: I would say my freshman year, Notre Dame. Like those

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Speaker 4: But they were really good, like as a unit, like

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Speaker 4: we was on a roll that year of having sacks

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Speaker 4: So like that's that's one old line I always remember, Like, dang,

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Speaker 4: they were tough to beat. So yeah, I would say them.

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: The fighting Irish are sticking out to you before you

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Speaker 2: go to bed at night, what's the very last thing

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Speaker 4: Pillow before I go to bed at night. I was

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Speaker 4: just kind of like a cliche answer, because I have

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Speaker 4: a like a set routine. I like watch film right

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Speaker 4: my film, I turned my thing on, I hit my

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Speaker 4: night light, okay, and I turn the brightness down on

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Speaker 4: my TV, and I turned on Hulu and I turn

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Speaker 4: on like the Simpsons or Family Guy. I gotta have

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Speaker 4: a little bit of noise. So that's kind of really

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Speaker 4: what I do, because, yeah, I gotta have some noise,

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Speaker 4: and I gotta have a little bit of light in

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Speaker 4: my room. Can't do pitch dark.

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Speaker 2: That's fascinating you say the Simpsons. Is it possible if

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Speaker 2: you like the Simpsons? Is it really possible to have

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Speaker 2: a favorite Simpsons character? Or is it like five favorite

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Speaker 2: Simpsons characters.

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Speaker 4: It's just I'm not really like a into it like that.

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Speaker 4: It's just something that I just turn yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: what are you into? I like animal playing so like

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Speaker 4: I really just like like not g o wild stuff

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Speaker 4: like that. Like Netflix has this thing like called like

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Speaker 4: seventy two like Deadly Animals or something like that that

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Speaker 4: I always watch and it's very fascinating. So it's cool.

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Speaker 3: What's the one animal you never want to be near? Ever?

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Speaker 4: A komodo dragon? Like a line it is, but like

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Speaker 4: a komodo or dragon like they're crazy like and they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's wrap this up. Christmas is coming,

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Speaker 4: I always say all of them? All of them. They're

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Speaker 3: Oh, Mom, Dad and the honey. It's Will Anderson. Thanks

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Speaker 3: so much for the time. Best of luck to you.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate it, Thank you, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff from Will Anderson Junior having a fun rookie season,

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Speaker 3: Weird and have fun like that.

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Speaker 2: All right, flipping the Script's time to go one on

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Speaker 2: in the lab. Darn it, John, Texans are coming off

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Speaker 2: a loss first time since October thirtieth. That was a

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Speaker 3: That's ty Cotton.

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Speaker 2: If you think about it, what's been going on around

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Speaker 4: Never.

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Speaker 5: I don't care if it's the last play, I don't

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Speaker 5: I will not sit here and tell you the officiating

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Speaker 5: enough to win. I don't know if I would say, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 5: the Jags were definitely the better team. They executed a

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Speaker 4: But I don't.

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Speaker 5: Feel like, oh yeah, the Jags are so much better,

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Speaker 5: think there's a happy media to be found between these

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Speaker 5: still feel like the Texans, in really their C minus game,

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Speaker 5: we're that close to going overtime. Yeah, potentially, unless Trevor

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Speaker 5: they're that close to taking over time playing their C

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Speaker 3: And John, what if I told you.

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Speaker 5: If I told you, oh, here we go, what.

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Speaker 2: If I told you on Sunday morning, say eleven o'clock,

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Speaker 2: good to see you. Texans today are going to win

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Speaker 2: the turnover battle. Texans today are not even going to

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Speaker 3: CJ. Stroud check it out.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna throw two touchdowns, he's going to run for another.

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Speaker 2: He's going to finish with a passer rating of one sixteen,

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Speaker 2: What if I told you those things on Sunday morning, What.

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Speaker 5: If I told you, yeah, I would have felt really

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Speaker 5: It happens for every quarterback. Mahomes does it all the time.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he did.

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Speaker 5: A lot of yet to say a lot of people

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Speaker 5: But the offensive line there were there were sometimes where

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Speaker 5: that's not that's not pressure. He's just going to an

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Speaker 5: weird day. Drew to your point, CJ threw for a

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Speaker 5: I felt like with you know, the pressures, the quarterback

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's fast forward to this week. Russell Wilson

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Speaker 3: And they're pre there.

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Speaker 2: It's back like you can't really you don't just get

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Speaker 3: Wind your way in.

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Speaker 2: And I remember hearing the crowd chanting the play clock,

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Speaker 2: thinking why would they be doing that, because they're only

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Speaker 2: going to give the Texans the idea or if Texans

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Speaker 3: That the play clock.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, they're doing it for their own and

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Speaker 3: I was stunned by that. Russell Wilson looks good.

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Speaker 2: So with all that in mind, on Monday morning, who

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Speaker 5: Well, we're recording us on Tuesday, of course, so well,

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Speaker 5: on an injury report, but you just never know. But

438
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Speaker 5: those are to be the two that I would go

439
00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,080
Speaker 5: with as my cream of the croppers against the Broncos.

440
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Speaker 3: What do you say of the crop I think it's

441
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Speaker 3: going to be.

442
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Speaker 2: I think it's there's gonna be a Dulton Schultz day

443
00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,800
Speaker 2: just based off of the spinning of the wheel, because

444
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,000
Speaker 2: I think I think we're at the point now where

445
00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,920
Speaker 2: Nico Collins and Tank Dell, no matter what, we're gonna

446
00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,880
Speaker 2: have between them five big catches.

447
00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:16,800
Speaker 3: Minimum per game.

448
00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,480
Speaker 2: So I think it's gonna be someone else as well

449
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,560
Speaker 2: stepping up. And we've seen Schultz do this before. We've

450
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,880
Speaker 2: seen him does he have five touchdowns since like this

451
00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,000
Speaker 2: the win streak started, So I kind of think I

452
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,840
Speaker 2: kind of think it's gonna be adult Schultz type of day.

453
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Speaker 3: I just I don't know.

454
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Speaker 2: I just I kind of it's either that and or

455
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,560
Speaker 2: the combo of Singletary and Damian Pierce because Texans didn't

456
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 2: face very good run defenses in the two games leading

457
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,760
Speaker 2: up to the Jacksonville game, and Jacksonville has a great

458
00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 2: run defense, and I kind of think they were able

459
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 2: to flourish. I kind of think Singletary was able to

460
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,680
Speaker 2: flourish against the Bengals and then the next week get

461
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,840
Speaker 2: that hundred yard game because those run defenses on paper

462
00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:02,160
Speaker 2: had struggled. They really had their troubles bottling guys up.

463
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,160
Speaker 2: You can run on the Broncos. And if you can

464
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 2: do that, because we know the explosiveness is always going

465
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,400
Speaker 2: to be there in the passing game, I think that

466
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 2: that sets up nicely for it. I think the Texans

467
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 2: can do and that's I think the Texans can certainly

468
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:16,440
Speaker 2: win this game.

469
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Speaker 3: I mean, they've beaten better teams.

470
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Speaker 2: They had a hiccup last weekend, but hey, you hit

471
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Speaker 2: a pass to Tank Dell early go on the one

472
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 2: that the phantom I legal shift was called. And I'm

473
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Speaker 2: with you. You know, you can't blame the refs. They

474
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 2: didn't help, they weren't good, but you didn't lose because

475
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,439
Speaker 2: the rest you just didn't play a great game. And

476
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 2: that being said, that's what's encouraged me the most is

477
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 2: they did not play a great game. And like you said,

478
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 2: a few more inches they're going to overtime, you know,

479
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 2: a few more inches that that thing sneaks over the

480
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,240
Speaker 2: crossbar and they're going in overtime. And I like my

481
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 2: chances with the Texans there and overtime. So I think

482
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 2: it's a Dulton and or running backs cream of the

483
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 2: crop type of day.

484
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Speaker 5: And I think also that's a good choice Drue, because

485
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,159
Speaker 5: I think one of the other things too. I mean,

486
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,920
Speaker 5: I think the Broncos gotten some pressure from some young

487
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 5: guys out on the edge. I don't think they're the

488
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 5: most dynamic pass rushing team in the league, but they're

489
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 5: They're good, and Zach Allen is going to be a problem,

490
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,639
Speaker 5: there's no doubt about that. I think one of the

491
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 5: things that can really help, especially if the run game

492
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 5: isn't quite all that, is get the ball to your

493
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 5: running backs. They're a number There are number of times

494
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 5: there was a handful of times in which the running

495
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 5: backs are kind of floating out. Why just you want

496
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 5: a check down route, like, hey, I'm over here on

497
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 5: the sideline, you can do it to me and there's

498
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 5: nobody over here. And I think you can have a

499
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 5: few more of those that just takes the pressure off

500
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 5: of CJ of you know, check check, check, nothing. All right,

501
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 5: you guys take it. I don't want to keep taking

502
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 5: these hits. You guys take it, And all of a sudden.

503
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 5: Now you've got Damian Pearson Devin Singletary of the ball

504
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 5: in space. You don't have to just throw screens to them.

505
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 5: You know their checkdowns are okay and and checkdowns to

506
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 5: them are are good. It's one thing you and I

507
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 5: have been talking about is getting the running backs a

508
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 5: little bit more involved in the past game. And maybe

509
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 5: that's another layer of the onion to pull back, is

510
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 5: that they can be more involved in the past game,

511
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 5: to give them another i don't know, six to eight

512
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 5: touches of between them in the passing game as opposed

513
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,120
Speaker 5: to just pounding their head up against the brick wall

514
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 5: like they were last weekending as Jacksonville all right.

515
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Speaker 2: Twitter Question of the day, with Andre Johnson being named

516
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 2: a Pro Football Hall of Fame semi finalist, your favorite

517
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,719
Speaker 2: Andre Johnson play of all time was?

518
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Speaker 5: I still think it's the Washington game at twenty ten.

519
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 4: Yep.

520
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 5: I mean, that was such a trudge uphill because of

521
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 5: how bad that game started. But I've always loved talking

522
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 5: to Andre about that play because he's so matter of

523
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 5: fact about it, and I always loved talking to about

524
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 5: it because he's just you know how he you know

525
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 5: how he speaks I mean it's just well, that guy

526
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 5: was in the way and I had to go up

527
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 5: and get the ball and that was it. I mean,

528
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 5: it really was. But there's a lot, there's a lot

529
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 5: that went into that play when you, you know, break

530
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 5: it down, which I think you I did that on

531
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 5: a film room a long long time ago. We did,

532
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 5: And there was so much to that play that kind

533
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 5: of showed the greatness of Andre Johnson, you know, just

534
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 5: the smarts, the route running and then the athleticism at

535
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 5: the end to finish in a big, massive, huge spot

536
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 5: and the Texas get that win. So to me, twenty

537
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 5: ten against Washington is always one of my faves.

538
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 3: Great choice, I love it.

539
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 2: Mine is a touchdown two thousand and nine at the

540
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals.

541
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 3: I was up in that press box.

542
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 2: It's up in a corner and it was in the

543
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: opposite corner of where that touchdown happened.

544
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 3: And I don't know what it was.

545
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 2: I think it was a reflection in the glass or something.

546
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: But when that one defender bounced off of him and

547
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: laying on his back simultaneously, when that happened, there was

548
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 2: like a light shooting straight up from out of that guy,

549
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 2: like a blue Flash.

550
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 3: I'm not joking really, and I've never heard this.

551
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 2: I joke was like, that's uh, that must have been

552
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: his soul leaving his body. But it was just it

553
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: all kind of happened, and I was like, holy moly. Yeah,

554
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: but yeah, that's my favorite one. It's there's so many

555
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: you could choose from. The walk off against Jacksonville.

556
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 3: Is a big one. Yeah.

557
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 5: Jeremiah Bell two thousand and eight Miami is a massive one.

558
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 4: Man.

559
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love telling that story. That was That was

560
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 5: the hurricane ike here and then Texans were they were

561
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 5: over to start the year. And I'm watching that game

562
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 5: up in the prist box and you know, I got

563
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 5: the I got the hal paster for that day to

564
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 5: go do my job, and so I'm you know, it's

565
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 5: getting late. It's just frustrating. I'm like a man. So

566
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 5: I actually had stopped to talk to somebody and I

567
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 5: look up and it's a fourth down play. I'm like,

568
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 5: all right, well, I'll watch this fourth down play and

569
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 5: then I'll get out of here. And Andre goes up

570
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 5: over Heremiah Bell steals the ball away from him, and

571
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, this is now interesting. I need

572
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 5: to stay and watch the end of this and thankfully

573
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 5: I did because Matt Schopp took it in. Texans got

574
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 5: to win. You felt the good leaving the building that day, like,

575
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 5: oh man, that yere Amia Bell catch. Over a year

576
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 5: am I? Oh you do you say? Oh yeah, year

577
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 5: Amia Bell. Everybody remembers that catch in two thousand and

578
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 5: eight against all That was awesome.

579
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 3: Love it.

580
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 2: Always loved talking with you. Can't wait to see the

581
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: Texans get back at it against the Denver Broncos. It's

582
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: a big game. It's fun to be playing big games

583
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: this late in the season. It's gonna be December. John

584
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: and the Texans are squarely in the playoff hunt. I

585
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,479
Speaker 2: think they're going to be in the playoffs, and I

586
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: love it. Football is so much fun again around here.

587
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: And I love talking about fun football with you.

588
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, man, absolutely Tree appreciate it. Brother, Good ting you,

589
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 5: good seeing you.

590
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: And now it's time to hear from a former Texan

591
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 2: in Nick Ferguson, playing in the NFL for a decade,

592
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: spent the last two years of his NFL career as

593
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 2: a safety with the Texans. In eight and nine, he

594
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 2: was a teammate of Andre Johnson's. He was a team

595
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: made of Demico Ryans. He actually coached for just a

596
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 2: teenc tiny bit out in San Francisco with Ryan's and

597
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: now he lives in Denver, covers the Bronco as a

598
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: team for which he used to play, and he's got

599
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: the perfect insight on this matchup, everything going on in Houston,

600
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 2: and a whole lot more. Here is some of my

601
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: conversation with Nick Ferguson. There is maybe no better person

602
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: to talk to about this Denver Broncos versus Houston Texans

603
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: matchup that a guy who played for both of them.

604
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: He's living in the Denver area now, but he's still

605
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 2: piped into everything going on here. Talking about long time

606
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: NFL defensive back Nick Ferguson, one of my favorite Houston

607
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: Texans of all time. When I joined the team and

608
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: started working here in two thousand and nine, you're a

609
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: safety here, dB here, and you would come out sometimes

610
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: in pregame we're in a Darth Vader mask, and I

611
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 2: like that.

612
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 3: That was different. So Nick, how the heck are you?

613
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 3: My friend?

614
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 6: I'm doing well, man. I hope you guys doing well

615
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 6: down in Houston. I know you guys are doing well

616
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 6: down in Houston. Is kind of sitting back here in

617
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 6: Denver watching everything unfold, and it's funny that you bringing

618
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 6: up the Dark Vader mask. I would say this, that's

619
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 6: when a lot of my Nick Ferguson personality that now

620
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 6: shines now actually started believe it or not. So Yeah,

621
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 6: I think that the Houston Texas organization for that.

622
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had some fun times with you. We did

623
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 2: What's in the Locker and you pulled out all sorts

624
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: of shenanigans and we did that. That video is floating

625
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 2: around somewhere. I'm gonna try and dig it up in

626
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: conjunction with this, but before we get into the matchup,

627
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 2: before we get into the coaching stuff. You're also the

628
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: perfect guy to talk to you about this because this

629
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 2: morning the news comes out one of your former teammates,

630
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 2: Andre Johnson, a Pro Football Hall of Fame semi finalist.

631
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: I'm biased. I think you should have gotten in earlier.

632
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: I've written about how the ten guys in front of

633
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 2: him yardage wise, career receiving, yardage wise, they're all valt

634
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: They're all Hall of famers. The three who aren't should

635
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 2: be in. They will be in some day. Larry Fitzgerald,

636
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: Steve Smith, Junior and Reggi Wayne, They're all Hall of famers,

637
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: but Andre belongs with them because you look at the

638
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 2: numbers and you dive a little deeper and he stacks.

639
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 3: Up with them.

640
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: But in your opinion, with your facts and what you saw,

641
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: why is Andre Johnson a Pro Football Hall of Famer

642
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 2: in your mind?

643
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 6: Well, the way that he approached the game, if it

644
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 6: was one of those things, and I say it now,

645
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 6: even when the guys covered, he's open, and that kind

646
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 6: of personified, you know, Andre Johnson to a flaw and

647
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 6: looking at our team and saying, okay, well, what was

648
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 6: the guy that every defense is saying, well, we need

649
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 6: to stop that guy. Andre Johnson was that wide receiver.

650
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 6: He was wide receiver one, and he made some exceptional catches.

651
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 6: Obviously that those battles, but between him and Courtland Finnegrin,

652
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 6: obviously everyone remembers those. Me being a teammate on the

653
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 6: sideline for all of that, I remember that. But just

654
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 6: knowing that Dre was one of those silent guys. He

655
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 6: didn't really say a lot. He just did a lot

656
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 6: on the football field, and it was hard to stop

657
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 6: him no matter where he was, no matter where Coach

658
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 6: Kobe had lined him up.

659
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good stuff. I kind of point that out

660
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: in this little piece I wrote. You know, all the

661
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: guys in front of him, I think eight of them

662
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: played with a guy who at one point when they

663
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: played with a Hall of Fame quarterback, and I think

664
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: the other two played with guys who were Pro Bowl

665
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: quarterbacks for at least four or five seasons. Matt Schaub

666
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: find quarterback for a good chunk of Andre's existence here

667
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 2: in Houston. But he only went to two Pro Bowls,

668
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: So lots of lots of stats behind that. But I

669
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 2: like hearing your your aspect on it because you had

670
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: to cover him in practice or try to cover him

671
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 2: in practice.

672
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Speaker 6: And yeah, much much better word.

673
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm not DENI great. You're a great, You're

674
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: a fine, fine NFL defensive back. But you, like many,

675
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: you had your struggles with Andre Johnson.

676
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 4: Over the years.

677
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into this matchup, because you and

678
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: I had a lot of fun about nine ten months

679
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: ago when the Broncos and the Houston Texans were in

680
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: the head coaching search. You had to talk me off

681
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: a ledge a few times. You would, you would joke

682
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 2: with me, but I think it's safe to say each

683
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: side got the guy they wanted, wouldn't you say, Demiico

684
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: Rance the Texans and Sean Payton there with Denver.

685
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, they did. And for me, you know, being a

686
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 6: little biased, I played with Demiko and I coached with

687
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 6: Fan Francisco. I just know everything that he embodies. I

688
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 6: know that if he had came into this team, they

689
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 6: would be great on both sides of the ball. You

690
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 6: guys are experiencing that right now in Houston. So I

691
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 6: was a little biased. I was a little disappointed that

692
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 6: the Broncos organization did not go that way. But both

693
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 6: teams got the guys that they wanted to. And when

694
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 6: you look at the fact that Dimico was drafted in Houston,

695
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 6: seldom do we see former players becoming head coaches, but

696
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 6: even those numbers of low, a guy was drafted going

697
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 6: back to the team that drafted him and now he's

698
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 6: leading them. So great job by the Texas organization being

699
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 6: able to school Dimiko up. And then also you look

700
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 6: at here in Denver with Sean Payton. The Broncos were

701
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 6: looking at turn the page away from Nathanie hack It

702
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 6: and they needed someone who can kind of get Russell

703
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 6: Wilson back on track and more importantly, get the offense

704
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 6: back in somewhat of a rhythm. And Sean Payton proved

705
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 6: to be that guy and known as though the team

706
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 6: didn't start out well, they started off one in five

707
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 6: and they ripped off five wins in a row, being

708
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 6: one of the hottest teams in the NFL right now.

709
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 6: So once again both organizations got the coaches they needed

710
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 6: to lead their teams.

711
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Speaker 3: No doubt.

712
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: I want to get into that in a moment. One

713
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: last thing about Demiko. You you bring up how you

714
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: coached with him. So obviously you saw what a leader

715
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: he was as a player, but you had a different

716
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: insight into him when you talk about that coaching because

717
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: he was a young coach at that point. What did

718
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: you see there that made you think, Okay, he's clearly

719
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: got a feuar. I mean you probably thought that anyways,

720
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: but just from the coaching side of things, what kind

721
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: of emboldened that idea that, man, this guy's going to

722
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Speaker 2: be a success.

723
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Speaker 6: Well, it goes back to our playing days. Obviously, Minko

724
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 6: being a Mike linebacker. That's kind of the leader of

725
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 6: the d and you just saw it then how guys

726
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 6: kind of gravitated towards him is a player to player approach,

727
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 6: and he was one of those guys that knew the

728
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 6: playbook up and down. And watching him with San Francisco

729
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 6: it was great. It was almost like seeing that same guy,

730
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 6: but just in a different role. When you look at

731
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 6: the development of Fred Warner, who's out there in San Francisco,

732
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 6: a lot of like Fred. That has to go to

733
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 6: Demiko because Demico could relate to what Fred Warner was

734
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 6: going through as a young Mike linebacker, both on and

735
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 6: off the field. And his ability to teach. That's a

736
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 6: valuable asset to have because if you look up the

737
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 6: coach in the Webster Dictionary, the first word in defining

738
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 6: coach should be teacher. And there's a lot of coaches

739
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 6: out there, but they all can't teach, and you're just

740
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 6: having that peer to peer relationship with your players. It

741
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 6: is something I have to tell you my experience in

742
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 6: NFL as a as a coach and as a player.

743
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 6: Most coaches don't subscribe to you because the idea is

744
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 6: that you know at some point you have to cut

745
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 6: a player. So you have to start with making sure

746
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 6: that there is not a big relationship or tie to

747
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 6: that particular player. Dimiko is a total opposite. Those guys

748
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 6: love him and that's why you see, you know, game

749
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 6: in and game out, those Texan players are not just

750
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 6: playing for one another. They're not just playing for the city.

751
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 6: They're playing for their head coach.

752
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 3: You brought him up, man, Russell Wilson. He's playing really well.

753
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: Twenty touchdowns, just four picks, completing sixty eight percent of

754
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: his passes. What the heck is different about Russell this

755
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: year versus the Russell Wilson the Texans saw last year

756
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: in Week two, which he got the win, they beat

757
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: the Texans. But he's not not the guy now that

758
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: he was then. What's different? Is it purely just the coaching.

759
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: I mean, what's changed.

760
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 6: Its Russell getting back to Russell. When he came here

761
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 6: and n Daniel Hackett took over, Russ picked up some

762
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 6: weight because he was thinking, Okay, well I'm getting older,

763
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take some hits, so I have to bulk

764
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 6: up a little. But to me, that took Russ out

765
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 6: of the game that we kind of known him to be.

766
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 6: As far as that quarterback playing the Seattle guy that

767
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 6: can get outside of the pocket. Now he's not that same guy,

768
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 6: and all you know, both of you and I know,

769
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 6: as you get older, you change and you have to evolve.

770
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 6: But he dropped him weight and he said, well, I'm

771
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 6: going to try to get back to the old Russell

772
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 6: Wilson win. The last year when there were opportunities for

773
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 6: Russell to scrambled, he didn't take advantage of those opportunities.

774
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 6: Now he's saying, well, the holes are going to open

775
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 6: up based on the rush lanes. I'm just gonna take

776
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 6: what the defense gives me and try to extend plays.

777
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 6: So he's making better plays as far as using his

778
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 6: feet to extend drives. And Russell has always been a

779
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 6: cerebral quarterback when you look at his ball placeman as accuracy,

780
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 6: those things have always been there. And I see it

781
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 6: with a lot of young quarterbacks who come into the

782
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 6: league who are considered to be that dual threat quarterback

783
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 6: where they're trying to prove to everyone that they can

784
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 6: be that statue as quarterback. And what I say to

785
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 6: that is just like, don't worry about that, do you.

786
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 6: Your athleticism got you to the league, puts you in

787
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 6: a position that you're in don't abandon that. That's why

788
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 6: when I look at CJ. Stroud, he reminds me of

789
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 6: those early Seattle days with Russell Wilson, the way that

790
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 6: he loses ground, to gain ground, to break, get outside

791
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 6: the pocket against those edge rushers, and just how he

792
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 6: manipulates the pocket. The one thing I do, I don't

793
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 6: fixate so much on the guy's arm because every year

794
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 6: we hear about arm talent. The first thing when I

795
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 6: watch CJ. My eyes go to his feet, right, because

796
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 6: I feel as though your feet make your better quarterback

797
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 6: running and throwing the ball. So he has exceptional feet.

798
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 6: And that's why when I look at both CJ now

799
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 6: and what Russell was before and what Resident was trying

800
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 6: to bring back to this Broncos offense, it's that footwork

801
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 6: and those are things that are important.

802
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting you bring that up.

803
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: Don't know how much you got to see of the

804
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 2: Texans game this last Sunday, but CJ. Stroud had to

805
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: move around quite a bit inside the pocket, outside the pocket,

806
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: and his foot work was really impressive. I mean, he

807
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: was under duress for much of the day but didn't

808
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: throw pick, played pretty darn well, and his footwork like

809
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: you mentioned, we've heard others. Steve Smith Senior brought it

810
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,959
Speaker 2: up in the pre draft process. We've heard from James

811
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: Palmer out there in Denver as well. With the NFL network.

812
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: He's brought up how many people were so impressed with

813
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: that footwork. But it really kind of came to the

814
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 2: four last weekend. And at times he'll be judicious and

815
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: he will run with the ball, but he's not just

816
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 2: doing it every single time or really really frequently, but

817
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 2: he's smart about it, kind of like what we're hearing

818
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: from you about Russell Wilson, didn't he.

819
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, he is, And I watched that Jacksonville game and

820
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 6: he did a great job, you know, moving and sliding

821
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 6: in the pocket, giving his receivers an opportunity to get open.

822
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 6: And they did a great job for him just not

823
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 6: just running around and just stopping like we see most

824
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 6: wide receivers do. They continue to work to get to

825
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 6: that second in that third progression route. And for me,

826
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 6: when I look at some of the decision makings that

827
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 6: CJ He's making right now, it has to kind of

828
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 6: remind you of what Patrick Mahomes is. Mahomes is always

829
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 6: making those off schedule plays and usually when you see

830
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 6: start to scramble, the idea is that he's scrambling to run.

831
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 6: Last week against Jacksonville, he was scrambling to buy a

832
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 6: time so while we can get open, like he was

833
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 6: scrambling to his left. And now he did this kind

834
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 6: of like Pearett move and then tang Dell Will saying, well, listen,

835
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna keep running. I'm just gonna stop here

836
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 6: and give him a target to throw. And he found

837
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 6: him right inside the end zone. That's why the Texans

838
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 6: chemistry right now offensively is off the charts.

839
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 2: All right, tell me more about this chemistry that Wilson

840
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 2: has with his pass catchers, not just his receivers, but

841
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 2: tight ends and so on and so forth.

842
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: What's he doing well and what are they what are

843
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 3: they bringing out of him?

844
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: That's kind of made this offense start clicking and start

845
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: winning ball games five in a row.

846
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 3: That's that's not easy to do.

847
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 6: No, it's not easy to do. And the same thing

848
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 6: that's happening in Houston where CJ. Shroud and his wide

849
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 6: receivers now which start and see that evolution and that

850
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 6: adaptation come together with the Broncos and the wide receivers.

851
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 6: Last year, I didn't see a lot of receivers working

852
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 6: to get open. It was usually if the rock was

853
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 6: at five or ten yards, they ran that route, they stopped,

854
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 6: they saw the quarterback scramble, and they just flashed their hands.

855
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 6: You can't do that anymore. I mean, defensive players are

856
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 6: so much better now than they were when I play.

857
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 6: So you have to work to get open, constantly moving

858
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 6: because you know you have a quarterback that can get

859
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 6: you the ball. There was a pass that Russell threw

860
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 6: to Adam Truntman and the tight end and it was

861
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 6: first rule out of bounds, but Trumpman made a great

862
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 6: catch for Russell put the ball where only his guy

863
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 6: could make the reception. And that's kind of been the

864
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 6: difference with this team. Everyone now working together, one COmON

865
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 6: go And I know it sounds crazy because you think

866
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 6: this is what you should do. Anyway, No, when you

867
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 6: are one and five, you start feeling sorry for yourself.

868
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 6: You start thinking about and I messed up here, and

869
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 6: I messed up there. And this is a mental game.

870
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 6: It's more mental than it is physical. But now the

871
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 6: mental aspect is now changing for the Denver Broncos team

872
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 6: and where they didn't have confidence before. They have a

873
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 6: lot of confidence now.

874
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 3: It really is wild.

875
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 2: I mean mid October you look at that that team

876
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: and you say, okay, well you're gonna play in December.

877
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 2: That's that's a w because they're gonna fold up. They're

878
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: gonn fold up their tents and they'll be done. Russ's finished,

879
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: and they have done the exact opposite. We're talking with

880
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: Nick ferguson, longtime NFL safety, played ten years in the

881
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: league from two thousand through two thousand and nine, finished

882
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 2: up here with the Houston Texans, played for the Broncos

883
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 2: as well as the Jets. Nick, what about the run game?

884
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 2: How much is that helping things out? How much is

885
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: it not helping? What have you seen there on the

886
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: ground in Denver?

887
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 6: Well, they say that the run game is a quarterback's

888
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 6: best friend, and it is true. Down in Houston, you

889
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 6: got Devin Singretary who's been I guess a workhods for

890
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 6: you guys, and that outlet pass. So when you look

891
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 6: at what the Bronx are doing and Sean Payton is

892
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 6: trying to deploy, he's trying to deploy that same type

893
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 6: of philosophy, use your backs hand the ball off. And

894
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 6: I know that there's this idea in the NFL just

895
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 6: run the ball. See, I don't subscribe to that because

896
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 6: just running the ball is not a solution. You have

897
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 6: to be creative in how you choose the running ball.

898
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 6: Last week against the Cleveland Browns, a tough defense, one

899
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 6: of the top defense in the NFL, they ran the ball.

900
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 6: They found success. So they found kind of holes and

901
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 6: weaknesses in the defense, and they used to they tried

902
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 6: to export them, and export them they did. And you have,

903
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 6: you know, three running backs, three running backs who have

904
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 6: a different style of running that you can can the

905
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 6: ball up to. So Margi p Ryan has been great

906
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 6: as an outlet pass catcher for Russell Wilson. You also

907
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 6: look at Javonte look at Jakwon McMillan. Excuse me, not

908
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 6: Jaquan McMillan. But you look at these running backs and

909
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 6: they're able to put the ball in their hands and

910
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 6: allow them to matricu lead the ball down the field.

911
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 6: So it's exceptional a group of running backs that they.

912
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 4: Have all right.

913
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: Ember on the other side of the ball, the defense

914
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: nick is twenty ninth in the NFL and points per

915
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: game allowed, so they're struggling. There're giving up about twenty

916
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: five plus. What are you seeing from them? You don't

917
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: have a bad defense and still win five games in

918
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: a row. What's going well for them? What are some

919
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 2: kind of spots that the Texans might be able to exploit?

920
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 6: You think, Well, the thing that's going well for the

921
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 6: Broncos defense is they're now starting to play like a

922
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 6: cohesive union. Obviously, everyone goes back to that Miami Dolphins

923
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 6: game where the Dolphins put up seventy points. It's not

924
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 6: that same team. Some of the issues that were plaguing

925
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 6: them before they've now fixed, and this is a more

926
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 6: aggressive defense. When you watch them play, you got guys

927
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 6: running sideline. The sideline, you know, Alex Singleton, who is

928
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 6: the team's leading tackler for the second year in a row.

929
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 6: That's the guy that kind of distraw that stirs the

930
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 6: drink that that's the guy that kind of gets everything

931
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 6: gone because he is that tone setter for the defense.

932
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 6: So now they're playing together as a unit. Communication has

933
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 6: gotten so much better than it was in that Miami

934
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 6: Dolphins game and earlier in the season. So those are

935
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 6: some of the things that have definitely helped his team.

936
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 6: But The biggest thing is turnovers. Early in the season,

937
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 6: they were not getting turnovers. They were not getting those

938
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 6: fifty to fifty balls. Now they're getting fifty to fifty balls.

939
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 6: And this is how crazy it's been for them. I mean,

940
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 6: the Browns put their tight end at the quarterback position

941
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 6: for someone like a quarterback sneak, he fumbles the ball

942
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 6: and they get they recover that fumble. Early on in

943
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 6: the season, they were not making those types of plays.

944
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 6: The ball wasn't bouncing in their way. So that's something

945
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 6: that has gone well for them. If you're saying, okay,

946
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,959
Speaker 6: well where have they needed to show up, it's on

947
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 6: their run defense. We've seen teams being able to run

948
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 6: on the Broncos defense. But here's the thing. Last week

949
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 6: against the Browns, they did a great job against four

950
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 6: and Kareem Hunt. But if you design, and I know

951
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 6: coach Slowan's gonna find a way to design and scheme

952
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 6: some run plays to get Devils Singletary involved in an offense.

953
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 6: From a run game standpoint, maybe he may be able

954
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 6: to find some room.

955
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: You know, the Jaguars have a really good run defense,

956
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: and the Texans ran into that and didn't have too

957
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: much success, But the two previous weeks they get one

958
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 2: hundred yards out of Devin Singletary each time going against

959
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: weaker run defenses, you know, statistically speaking, So it stands

960
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: to reason, looks like the Texans have a chance to

961
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: get things going because Damian Pierce has gotten integrated back

962
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: into the mix as well.

963
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 3: So it's it's a nice, nice comba.

964
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: You saw some of Damian Pierce last year in Denver

965
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: and what he could do as a rookie.

966
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I mean when you have dynamic backs like

967
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 6: the Texans have, the idea is to find ways to

968
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 6: set them up perfectly. Coach Slowek has done a great

969
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 6: job thus far. I'm sure he's gonna use those guys

970
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 6: in a multitude of different ways. And we saw last

971
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 6: week against Jacksonville the screen game was worked. That was

972
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 6: one of the go tos and kind of a stressful

973
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 6: leaguer for CJ Strout not allowing him to kind of

974
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,479
Speaker 6: forcing him into making a mistake just dump the ball

975
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,959
Speaker 6: off to Devas Santary and let him do the work.

976
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 6: So I'm sure he's going to dial up a couple

977
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 6: of things. And once again I was coaching with coach

978
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 6: loow in San Francisco, he spent a lot of time

979
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 6: around Kyle Shanahan and looking at how Kyle is used

980
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 6: see him. See, I'm sure that coach Slogan is looking

981
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 6: to do the same thing with his running backs.

982
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up, because, like you mentioned,

983
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 2: you coached with Slok a little bit there in San Francisco.

984
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 2: You practiced against that Shanahan Kubiak offense all those years

985
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 2: as a player in Denver and Houston. We give Jamiko

986
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: Ryans a lot of credit for the success. And yes

987
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: he has been mouth to mouth resuscitation for this franchise,

988
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: but also helping things out. How big a deal do

989
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: you think Bobby Slowak's offense has been for this team.

990
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 6: It's a huge help for the team. But more important

991
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 6: defense when you're off can move the ball down the field.

992
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 6: You know, they can sustain the drive, two minute drive,

993
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 6: four minute drive. It helps out your defense. It keeps

994
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 6: them on the side line, it keeps them fresh. So

995
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 6: when they go out there against opposing offense, those guys

996
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 6: like Will Anderson, they can come off the edge, they

997
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 6: can really get after the quarterback. And then knowing as though, okay,

998
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 6: if you start the trail and you look at the

999
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 6: games that the Texas have played this season, you know

1000
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 6: there have been moments that where the Texas have been ahead.

1001
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 6: There are moments that they've been behind, but they've been

1002
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 6: able to to that game. I mean, when you look

1003
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 6: at the Jacksonville game, right it was one of those

1004
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 6: games where whatever team had the ball last was probably

1005
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 6: gonna win the ball game. The Texan had the ball,

1006
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 6: they were moving down the field, but it was just

1007
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 6: that sack on CJ. Stroud that kind of took him

1008
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 6: out of the field goal range. If he's not sacked,

1009
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 6: now they move the ball down and field goal range,

1010
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 6: and then now they kick the game winning field goal.

1011
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 6: This is one of those things and evolutions that you're

1012
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 6: seeing with this offense that you really don't see, and

1013
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 6: that's been an extraordinary thing. You have a rookie head coach,

1014
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 6: you have a rookie offensive coordinator, and you have a

1015
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 6: rookie quarterback. They're not supposed to be where they are

1016
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 6: right now. They're not, so they're shocking a lot of people,

1017
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 6: but people around the league are starting to get over

1018
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 6: the initial shock and say, you know what, it's time

1019
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 6: to take this team serious and they can play some real.

1020
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: Good football, and for a real good stretch of that

1021
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 2: at least six to seven games, you had a rookie

1022
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: center in Jared Patterson, and then on top of that,

1023
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: you've had a rookie wide receiver Tank Dell doing what

1024
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 2: he's doing. Rookie wide receivers don't usually have the success

1025
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: the guy like Dell is having. As a former defensive back,

1026
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: how much of a headache is it knowing that that

1027
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 2: guy's out there, Knowing that Nico Collins, who's big, fast,

1028
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: plays with a real controlled violence, that you got tight

1029
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: Adulton Schultz in there, a veteran like Robert Woods and

1030
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: Noah Brown might not be back, but he's had a

1031
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: couple of hundred and fifty yard games. What's it like

1032
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: as a dB knowing that there's all those threats of

1033
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: different variety that you got to face.

1034
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 6: It's a big headache. And I don't think they build,

1035
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 6: uh created a bigger aspen that you can take trying

1036
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 6: to defend all those guys. But that's the thing when

1037
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 6: you have a rookie quarterback. And don't get me wrong

1038
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 6: with CJ. Strouts, with every townsend, I thought he was

1039
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 6: coming out of Ohio State, but you have to put

1040
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 6: pieces around him, and having a veteran guy like Robert

1041
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 6: Woods to kind of lead that wide receiving corps, it

1042
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 6: is so important. I mean, you mentioned Nico Collins who

1043
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 6: is extraordinary with oide receiver, and you have Dalton Schultz,

1044
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 6: ad you tight end and Drew bek who played here

1045
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 6: tight end with the Broncos. But you look at Tank deal.

1046
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 6: I mean, the chemistry that those two have created over

1047
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 6: the past couple of weeks has been extraordinary. And when

1048
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 6: I watched film on this team, the first thing I

1049
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 6: think about I go back. I said, well, you got

1050
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 6: coach slayk who spent time in San Francisco, who does

1051
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 6: Tank Dale reminded me of based on how he moves

1052
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 6: around and how they get him involved in the offense.

1053
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 6: Immediately go to Deebo Sammy's Now they're not putting him

1054
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 6: in the backfield, right, They're moving him around to set

1055
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 6: him up so both he and CJ. Stroud can complete

1056
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 6: some of those passes. There's a lot of rhythmic passes,

1057
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 6: and that's what you want to do for your quarterback.

1058
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 6: You don't want to stress him out, you don't want

1059
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 6: to make things difficult because the game is already tough

1060
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 6: within itself. Try to get him into a rhythm by

1061
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 6: him a go to guy, go to route, and then

1062
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 6: start matriculating the ball down the field and that chemistry.

1063
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 6: Once again, it's so important if there was a such

1064
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 6: thing as a safety net for CJ. Stroud when in

1065
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 6: tight situations, he's gonna look for Tankdale. That's not to

1066
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 6: say that none of the other wide receivers have developed

1067
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 6: the chemistry, but everyone has a go to person and

1068
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 6: Tank Dell has become that for CJ. Strout.

1069
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: It's been so much fun to watch, Nick. It seems

1070
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 2: like almost every pass CJ. Stroud throws, it's down just

1071
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 2: in front of the guy so that he doesn't have

1072
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 2: to break stride and he's got some space. And when

1073
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: you get space and you're going at near full speed,

1074
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: dangerous things you're gonna happen in a good way for

1075
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: your offense, aren't they, Nick Ferguson.

1076
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely. Once again, this is the thing that makes CJ.

1077
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 6: Stroud such a great quarterback. And I know individuals will

1078
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 6: toss his name out as far as being an MVP,

1079
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 6: and he's playing in that particular way, especially for a

1080
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 6: young guy, because a lot of things that he's doing,

1081
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 6: Drew usually you do in your second and maybe in

1082
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 6: your third year, he's doing them in his first year.

1083
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 6: So I got to give him a lot of credit. Obviously,

1084
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 6: you get a coaching staff a lot of credit, but

1085
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 6: I got to give the player a lot of credit

1086
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 6: because what you're talking about is really important because sometimes

1087
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 6: rookie quarterbacks they want to show how strong their arms are,

1088
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 6: so for guys who run on a shallow route, they're

1089
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 6: trying to zip that ball in. He's throwing with a

1090
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 6: lot of touch, and you can tell by his pregame

1091
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 6: warm ups that you know those touch passes are so important.

1092
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 6: I saw him warming up with the basketball looking like

1093
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 6: he's shooting free throws. You really don't see that in

1094
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 6: today's NFL with a lot of quarterbacks, but a lot

1095
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 6: of those kind of pregame rituals are now showing up

1096
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 6: in the game.

1097
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 2: Nick Ferguson, we appreciate the time. It's always great to

1098
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 2: talk with you. So much fun is being had in

1099
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 2: Denver and in Houston. Happy times here again for both

1100
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: those football teams. We will tee it up and see

1101
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: these guys square off at noon Sunday Inside Energy Staium.

1102
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 2: But Nick Ferguson, thanks so much for the time, my friend,

1103
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. Always cool talking with Nick Ferguson.

1104
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: He's one of my favorite Texans that I ever covered.

1105
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: He was one of the first Texans that I talked

1106
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 2: with in the locker room. He was always really cool

1107
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: to chitchat with. He wore the Darth Vader mask. Like

1108
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: I mentioned, he did a What's in Your Locker video

1109
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: which was a whole hell of a lot of fun.

1110
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: I remember my nephews there were little guys at the time,

1111
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 2: probably around eight to nine years old.

1112
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 3: That was their favorite video of.

1113
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 2: The Houston Texans for a good long while turning the page.

1114
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: Phil Milanie, he's another guy I love talking with. He

1115
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: works for the Denver Broncos, does basically what I do

1116
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: out there for them, and he's been with Denver for

1117
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 2: quite a long time, better part of the last decade

1118
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 2: really and longer. And Phil has a unique insight into

1119
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: what's going on with the Denver Broncos. They're good again too,

1120
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 2: winners of five straight. Like we talked about with Nick Ferguson.

1121
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: Here is my conversation with Phil. Phil when whenever I

1122
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 2: talk about you with others. I just kind of say,

1123
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 2: he basically does what I do. But for the Broncos,

1124
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 2: you know you can Yeah, you can write, you can

1125
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: do TV, you produce, you can do radio, you can

1126
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 2: do it all. I mean your podcast. What's your official

1127
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 2: title though, just so we're all clear.

1128
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 7: Like a reporter, producer. I guess it would be my

1129
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 7: official title. But yeah, I'm kind of like the Drew

1130
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 7: of the Broncos, except I'm not quite as funny.

1131
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I'm the Phil of the Texans.

1132
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 2: Let's just put it that way. You've been there, you've

1133
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: been there a while. What's the what was the first year?

1134
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 3: He started?

1135
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 7: Twenty thirteen, and so two of my first three years

1136
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 7: the Broncos went to the super Bowl.

1137
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 3: I was like, it's easy, how it is every year? Right,

1138
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 3: I can gets to this And so.

1139
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 7: A little bit of a Peyton Manning effect there.

1140
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 3: Not bad, not bad.

1141
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny when I look at this matchup coming

1142
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: up Sunday noon here at Energy Stadium. In a lot

1143
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 2: of ways, it's like looking in the mirror. It's a

1144
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 2: team with a new head coach. You've got quarterbacks who

1145
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 2: are playing really really well. Have kind of similar statistics.

1146
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 2: Can elude the pocket but still look downfield to throw

1147
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 2: most of the time. They're both playing at a really,

1148
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: really high level. You've got opportunistic defenses, pretty good on

1149
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 2: the turnover ratio. I think you guys are I can't look,

1150
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: but the Texans are top tennis I know for sure,

1151
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: but you guys have peeled off five wins in a row.

1152
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 2: Texans had a hiccup last week, but since Week three

1153
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 2: they've been playing excellent football. There's a lot of similarities

1154
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 2: in this matchup. Let's start with a quarterback though, Russell Wilson.

1155
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 2: This is not the Russell Wilson that the Texans saw

1156
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: week two of the twenty twenty two season. Looks like

1157
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 2: the old guy that was one of the tops in

1158
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 2: the NFL.

1159
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean this offseason he was really dedicated and

1160
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 7: he came back with like fifteen pounds later, and that's

1161
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 7: really made a big different for insu he you know

1162
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 7: you mentioned alluding to pass rush there, he's getting away

1163
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 7: from guys that last year it would have been a

1164
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 7: ten yard sack.

1165
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 4: You know.

1166
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 7: Last week, Miles Garrett, you know, leading the NFL and

1167
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 7: sacks is chasing him around and he can't quite on

1168
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,479
Speaker 7: one play, he can't quite get to Russ, and Russ

1169
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 7: is heading downfield and taking off. So yeah, he looks

1170
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 7: like vintage Russ. Really, he's making plays, he's leading fourth

1171
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 7: quarter comebacks. You know a lot of what Russ likes

1172
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 7: to do is sort of that what they call that

1173
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 7: second act where the first play, you know, the timing

1174
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 7: is not right whatever, then he takes off. He's scrambling

1175
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 7: all around and then boom, it's like a thirty yard

1176
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 7: play downfield. So yeah, this is the Russ that the

1177
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 7: Broncos thought that they were trading for.

1178
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 2: You know, you and I touched on this as we're

1179
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: getting ready and setting this whole interview up. But the

1180
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 2: vibes in the building, I imagine, are just night and day.

1181
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 2: What you've been through over the last what seven years,

1182
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 2: over the saying last five weeks versus the previous seven years.

1183
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,959
Speaker 7: Right, totally. I mean it's like, I'm like, where what's

1184
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 7: this feeling like? I don't like I do like a

1185
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,959
Speaker 7: postgame show for the Broncos, And I'm like.

1186
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 3: Wait, how do you do the wins again?

1187
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 7: You know, I'm taking a little bit of time to

1188
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 7: adjust to this, but you can certainly feel it in

1189
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 7: this locker room. There's a lot of confidence.

1190
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 3: You know, everybody's in a good mood.

1191
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 7: And yeah, I mean I think that if you're not

1192
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 7: really a Broncos fan or paying attention, maybe the only

1193
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 7: thing that you know about this team is that they

1194
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 7: give up seventy points to the Dolphins at the beginning

1195
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 7: of this year, you know, and since that point, though,

1196
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 7: this team has really changed things around. During this five

1197
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 7: game winning streak, They've beaten some really good teams. You know,

1198
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 7: they beat the Chiefs, they beat the Bills, they beat

1199
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 7: the Vikings, and then last week they beat the Browns.

1200
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 7: So it's not like they're just beating you know, a

1201
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 7: lot a bunch of teams with losing records. I mean,

1202
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 7: they're getting it done against some of the top teams

1203
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 7: in the NFL, and there's a lot of confidence that

1204
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 7: comes with doing that. And I think right now it

1205
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 7: really feels like the Broncos have turned a page turned

1206
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 7: the corner.

1207
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, you bring up that seventy point game, that's really

1208
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 2: if you look at the totality, that's you that's an

1209
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 2: outlier now and you take that game out and you

1210
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 2: take about then if you're On the other end, you

1211
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 2: take out the game in which the Broncos only allowed

1212
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: nine points, you use those, you average the rest of those.

1213
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 2: They're only giving up around twenty one to twenty two

1214
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: per I know it's officially if the whole season they're

1215
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 2: at twenty five, but you take out those two, it's

1216
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 2: a pretty solid defense. It's really good at getting takeaways.

1217
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 2: What is the strength in your mind of what they're

1218
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 2: doing defensively. That's kind of caused some of the success

1219
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: over the last five well.

1220
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 7: I think at the beginning of the season they had

1221
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 7: a couple of veteran pass rushers that were in the building,

1222
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 7: Randy Gregory Frank Clark, and they decided that they were

1223
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 7: going to move on from both of those guys and

1224
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 7: let the younger pass rushers give them some confidence, give

1225
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 7: them some more snaps out there. And it's really pay

1226
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 7: off because young guys like Baron Browning, Jonathan Cooper, Nick

1227
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 7: Benito off the edge.

1228
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 3: They've really come to life.

1229
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 7: Here over this five game winning streak, and they've done

1230
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 7: a great job getting pressure on the quarterback and that's

1231
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 7: led to some of these turnovers and they've had fifteen

1232
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 7: over the last four games here so that's like the

1233
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 7: most turnovers they forced in three games in four game

1234
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 7: stretch since nineteen eighty nine. So they've really been taking

1235
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 7: it away. Some of it's been lucky, but some of

1236
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 7: it's been like the mindset, like they're just like ripping

1237
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 7: at balls. They're playing really aggressive football. And definitely, I

1238
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 7: think those outside linebackers, those pass rushers, they've really been

1239
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,760
Speaker 7: the difference here. Of course, the stars on the defense

1240
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 7: are Patzertan and Justin Simmons in the secondary, but really

1241
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 7: the difference from the beginning of the year to right now,

1242
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 7: I think it's been that outside pass rush.

1243
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you brought up Simmons.

1244
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: I mean, how how valuable is that guy having him

1245
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 2: at the back end.

1246
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, he didn't play in that Miami game when they

1247
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 7: gave up seventy points. He was injured in that one,

1248
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 7: and you know when he comes back, you know, he's

1249
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 7: just sort of that leader. He gets everybody on the

1250
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 7: same page. When he does his press conferences, he probably

1251
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 7: says the word communication like fifteen times, you know, and

1252
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 7: you kind of roll your eyes, you know, every time

1253
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 7: he says it, because it's kind of a joke now,

1254
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 7: but it is a big deal. Where he's the guy

1255
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 7: who you feel confident with him back there, and he's

1256
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 7: sort of that center fielder type of safety where he's

1257
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 7: the ballhawk. He's just reading the quarterback's eyes and you know,

1258
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 7: he's been getting interceptions, you know, the last couple of

1259
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 7: years here at a really a high rate.

1260
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: All Right, we're ping ponging around here. Let's go back

1261
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 2: to the offensive side. Some of the pass catchers that

1262
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: are doing good things for Russell Wilson. You know, I'm

1263
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 2: an SMU Mustang, so Courtland Sutton, I'm a big fan.

1264
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 2: He's he's looking like the court and something that we

1265
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,959
Speaker 2: knew and you know knew it last teak.

1266
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's going on there?

1267
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 7: Well, he tours ACL in twenty twenty, and the last

1268
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 7: couple of years it's taken him some time to get

1269
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 7: that explosiveness back and then also sort of just trusting

1270
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 7: his body too, you know, the mental aspect of coming

1271
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 7: back from that injury. And I don't know what's gotten

1272
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 7: into him here, but he's turned into a touchdown machine.

1273
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 7: I'm not sure if it's like a Sean Payton type

1274
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 7: of thing where he just has this confidence about him now,

1275
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 7: but he's making a lot of contested catches. He's never

1276
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 7: been that guy who's been like a super impressive route

1277
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 7: runner or a guy who's like wide open often. But

1278
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 7: he's that bigger body type of guy that high points

1279
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 7: the ball, wins a lot of jump balls, makes a

1280
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 7: lot of contested catches, and he's developed this chemistry with

1281
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 7: Russell Wilson where hey, if it's a big third down

1282
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 7: or they're in the red zone, that's his go to guy.

1283
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 7: That's the guy that he trusts is going to come

1284
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 7: down with the ball. And I think it's led to

1285
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 7: eight touchdowns this season. So he's really been a different

1286
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 7: kind of player than the Broncos have seen the last

1287
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 7: three years.

1288
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 3: What are you seeing from the run game there? Oh?

1289
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 7: That's really it really all starts for this offense. This

1290
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 7: last offseason they went out and got Mike McGlinchey, Ben Powers.

1291
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 7: They really reinforced that offensive line and right now they're

1292
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 7: really healthy and they've been able to play a lot

1293
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 7: of football to all five of them together, and that's

1294
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 7: like really a cohesive unit and it's really led to

1295
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 7: a strong running game here. Javonte Williams he tore his

1296
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 7: ACL last year, but it didn't take him that long

1297
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 7: to come back. I mean, he didn't miss a game

1298
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 7: this year and really hit the ground running. He's the

1299
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 7: sort of that combo back where he's got some speed,

1300
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 7: but he's got that power too. So it really starts

1301
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 7: with the Broncos trying to establish the running game with

1302
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 7: with Javonte Williams, and then they have Samaj p Ryan

1303
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 7: that they brought in this last offseason.

1304
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 3: He's a bruiser.

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01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 7: I mean, I've not met a running back who looks

1306
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 7: the way he does. You know, He's just a huge guy.

1307
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 7: There's like this story about him and when he was

1308
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 7: at Alklahoma where this woman was trying to change her

1309
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 7: tire but she didn't have a jack, and so he

1310
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 7: just came over and like lifted the car up and

1311
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 7: she checked the tire. So like anytime anything Samaj he

1312
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 7: does that, that story tends to pop up. So and

1313
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 7: then they have this undrafted running back Julia McLoughlin, who's

1314
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 7: sort of that speedy kind of guy and he's a

1315
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 7: change of paceback that the last couple of weeks they

1316
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 7: haven't featured him as much just because they've been playing

1317
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 7: some really bruising defenses. But when he gets open in space,

1318
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 7: he's got the ability to really take it to the house.

1319
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 3: So overall, what would you say the Sean Payton effect

1320
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 3: has been on this team confidence.

1321
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 7: I really think that, Like I don't know what happened,

1322
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 7: I don't know how they started to believe, but like

1323
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 7: there was just such a change in the way that

1324
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 7: this team carries itself. I really think they've adopted his

1325
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 7: personality like more than anything. And you know, this training

1326
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 7: camp that they went through was much more difficult than

1327
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 7: they have gone through in the last couple of years

1328
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 7: around here, really sort of set the tone, set a

1329
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 7: message that hey, we're gonna work, We're gonna roll up

1330
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 7: our sleeves here, we're gonna get after it. And I

1331
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 7: think it took a little bit of time at the

1332
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 7: start of the season for everybody to buy in. But

1333
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 7: once they started winning some of these games, once they

1334
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 7: started seeing their hard work pay off, now they're like

1335
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 7: all in and they've got this confidence and they play

1336
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,439
Speaker 7: a really a physical style of football, and I think

1337
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 7: that that comes from Sean to the defense. You know,

1338
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 7: we mentioned the turnovers. They're just like a confident bunch

1339
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 7: right now. And I think anytime you win five games

1340
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 7: in a row, you sort of feel like that, and

1341
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 7: it's been a good role for this team. And you know,

1342
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 7: like we mentioned off the top here, these are two

1343
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 7: teams in very similar situations here where playing with a

1344
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 7: lot of confidence, and you know they're right neck and

1345
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 7: neck there for fighting for that wild card spot.

1346
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a game I don't think many people externally,

1347
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 2: maybe even internally had circled once the schedule came out,

1348
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 2: But here we are. It's going to be December Texans

1349
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 2: and Broncos or you know, one of them, both of

1350
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 2: them could be in the playoffs. It's not out of

1351
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 2: the realm of possibility. This is a massive game.

1352
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 3: Phil.

1353
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 7: It's so much fun seeing CJ. Stroud and what he's

1354
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 7: been able to do for you guys. I mean, it's

1355
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 7: it's really been amazing to see just what he's second

1356
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 7: in the league in passing yards just five interceptions I

1357
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 7: think this season, So I mean for a rookie to

1358
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 7: come in there, I mean, it's been a lot of

1359
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 7: fun to watch, you know, externally here, you know, I

1360
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 7: like seeing the young guys do well around the league,

1361
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 7: and just same with Lebron because there's a complete culture

1362
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 7: change and everything with the Texans it should be an

1363
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 7: exciting game. And you mentioned the seven years here with

1364
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 7: the Broncos, a lot of losing. Just to be talking

1365
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 7: about a meaningful matchup in December, that's exciting for us here.

1366
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 2: That used to be every single year for you guys,

1367
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 2: I mean going back to the seventies.

1368
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's.

1369
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 2: Good to see winning football again there in Denver and

1370
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 2: here in Houston.

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01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 3: Phil, I always enjoy talking with you.

1372
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 2: I look forward to seeing you this Sunday and then

1373
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 2: again in February at the Combine for our much longer

1374
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 2: sit down like we always have there in the media Center.

1375
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 2: But it's good to see my friend, and I appreciate

1376
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 2: you taking some time out for me. Thanks for having

1377
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 2: me on Dre. Always appreciate catching up, Okay, Douk, We

1378
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 2: sure do appreciate you listening. Make sure you subscribe to

1379
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 2: this podcast so it hits that inbox as quickly as

1380
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 2: possible every single Wednesday.

1381
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 3: Couldn't do it without you. We do it because of you.

1382
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 2: So chime in at Doherty Drew if you got any questions,

1383
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: and we'll do this again next week. Thanks to John,

1384
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 2: Thank you, ks to Phil Malaney, thanks to Nick Ferguson

1385
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 2: and of course, thank you to the great Will Anderson

1386
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: for doing that interview.