WEBVTT - Episode 126 w/ Royce da 5'9" 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.880 And it's Drink Chas motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper. 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:19.279 He's like, that's your boy in o R. He's a 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:22.680 Miami hippop pioneer. What up is d J e FN? 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.640 Together they drinking up with some of the biggest players 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:30.560 in the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.600 sorts for drunk fact drink Chas motherfucking poda. Every day 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.800 is New Year's e. That's it's time for drink Champs. 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:46.159 Drink up, motherfuck motherfuck would it could be? Hopefully what 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:48.360 this should be? This is your boy in R. What 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.519 up is d J e F? This militum motherfucking podcast. 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.120 I know what I'm saying it wrong, this is crazy 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:57.280 Ward Radio. I know what I'm saying this motherfucking drink 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:06.160 Chat motherfucker two year anniversary at least now. The Nightest 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:10.319 Guess is one of my personal w UM favorite lyricists. 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:17.640 Um the guy has had countless uh things that he's 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:21.600 accomplished to this game. Started out in Tommy Boy Records, 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.319 turned down a dr DRE deal that could have changed 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:29.759 his life. Him rhyme. He's probably the only person who 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:33.600 ever rhyme next side to Embinem and they didn't say 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:35.959 that Emmine embodied them. And I'm telling hither, they got 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:39.440 like nine thousand records together and not one like the 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:41.320 nigga said that he bought it. Maybe it's a couple 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:44.040 and maybe it's not. But I mean every record of 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.800 the Eminem rhyme and anybody they say that he demolishes them. 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:50.120 He's probably the only guy that stands a chance. He 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:53.280 said with part of a legendary rat group that even 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:55.440 they were beefing at one point, and then they came 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:58.800 together and they made What's for the better cause of 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.000 hip hop. Let's big of the Lord House and the 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.360 case you guys don't know. Then he made another group 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:07.400 with a legendary dj't and they made two. I was 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:16.080 not one prime, but it's fantastic. And then he goes 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:20.680 on funk Master Flex. Let me write my sweat. I'm 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:25.239 sweating at the beginning, and sweat because because it's almost 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:30.880 I respect him. And he goes on Funk Flex and 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:33.600 it was crazy because a lot of my younger homies 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:35.120 and a lot of my people, they were coming up 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:38.160 to me and they were showing me this footage and 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:42.600 they were shocked, and I wanted to respect their shocknus, 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:48.120 but I also wanted to say this ain't nothing no like, 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.000 and you know, I don't want to be disrespectful to 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:52.640 what you did, but I'm like, this dude been doing 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:56.120 this for years. So in case you don't know who 0:02:56.200 --> 0:03:05.160 we're talking about, we told my motherfucking voice to find ken. 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:10.240 You have such a rich hip hop history, and so 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.519 I want to take it from the beginning. I want 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:17.000 the fans to actually understand your flight, your struggle, how 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:20.359 you got to this very moment right here. So but 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.640 because I just I just took it from the beginning 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.000 and I fast folded you very bad. I'm so sorry. 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.120 But let's take it from the beginning. So how is 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.800 a young Royce keep getting into this game? Well, let 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:36.320 me just give you, oh yes, please please please what 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.240 one you got? You got what size? Don't worry about myself. 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:46.240 So let's take it from the very right. Yes, yes, okay, 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:48.680 So what you want from the very beginning, like, how 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.640 what is your start? What is your origins? How how 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:55.520 does this happen? Well, I come from Detroit, shout out 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.480 to Detroit. Absolutely, yeo, man, I started. It's crazy because 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:00.280 I just bumped into my man's scam up and knowing 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:04.040 scam for the long family that he created the drink Champs. No, goddamnit, 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:13.000 make some bro. I started rapping. I was playing basketball 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:17.919 in high school. I started writing my own raps probably 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:21.400 some time around the eleventh grade. And I never told nobody, 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.080 But why you said writing your own wraps? It sounds 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.880 I was helping you before that. Oh yeah, you might 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:28.760 have been reciting other than you were hearing me. Let 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:32.080 me make sure clear everybody, because you know, people gonna 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:37.080 be out there like what. I started off mimicking people, 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.240 so like l L co J, I'm bad, like used 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.440 to like I memorized the whole video choreography and everything, 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:48.159 so my bad choreography and everything I'm bad was choreography. 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:50.640 B Yeah, I didn't think about it like you were 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:55.400 doing that, you know queens, and we didn't look at 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:59.120 it like that. That's the technically way of because they 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.320 were doing that was for My father used to have 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:03.599 his friends and shipped over and he used to be 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:07.080 like Ryan, Dude, I'm bad bad, So I set the 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:08.919 stool up and I wrapped the ship and I'll be 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:11.880 doing all the moves and that's like how I started 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.839 running up like I could eat forty bringing yellow tape. 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.520 I used to wrap that ship exactly like forty like 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:21.640 exactly why So like that, That's how I fell in 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:25.320 love with hip hop. So I started writing wraps for 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:28.760 myself to say for myself sometime around in high school. 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.080 So when niggas used to be doing cipherst and ship, 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.440 I never would tell nobody that I was writing. Right, 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:36.400 So right around twelfth grade, me and one of my 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.040 boys went to the hip Hop Shop in Detroit. I've 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:40.919 been at the hip hop shop and they had no 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:44.640 security there. Picked them up the hipop shop for those 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:46.960 the hip hop shop. This this like like s O 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:51.360 B S. It's like a real underground thing. So this 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.159 is the first time I came to a club and 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:57.359 they actually had no security nowhere. Like like I'm not 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.520 I don't care about security. What I'm just saying, like 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.720 I'm just used to that, and these niggas they just 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:04.120 they just was in there. Rhyme. Bro. It's like a 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:09.240 it's a clothing store the street from Um, it's a 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.800 chicken spot. I love a chicken from from the hip 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.960 hop shop. Yeah, on my bucket. He went to a 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:18.560 different hill what's the st Andrews, what's the street? I 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:22.280 love that Chicken the Coros Street. I'm a hood nigga. 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:27.160 You can tell that's what everybody doing it and they're 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:30.720 like yo, sweetwater. But yeah, so this this is like 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.599 so this is like my first time seeing this is 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.159 before the internet was like popping and ship. This is 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.919 my first time seeing niggas battle and like rap about 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.360 what you're wearing battle back and for I've never seen 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.039 that before. So I'm looking at els I eminem Proof 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:47.800 these niggas is like, how old are there this time? 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.520 They probably in their twenties. I'm still a teenager. When 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.760 not els I, I was still young. And this is 0:06:53.760 --> 0:07:01.440 the which is this is mart He's malans for me. Yeah, 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.960 this is where like that our whole generation came from. 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:07.239 It's kind of like birth from there. I didn't flourish 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:10.160 there though, because, like they Proof was the host. He 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:13.360 had to Mike passing. Yeah, he had to Mike passing 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.840 it around. So you get to Mike and you can 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.160 wrap and you got like a few seconds to kind 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.480 of like captivate the crowd or DJ here to put 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.600 this gone music on, and you gotta pass the money 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.120 it's like the public. So when I when I first 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:29.200 got like the courage to rap there, after I went 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.920 a couple of times, I got goned, so I got 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.200 gone and I ain't never wrapped there again. So I 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.400 started going to this other place called the Ebony Showcase. 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.800 After that I got a little bit older. The environment 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:42.600 was a little bit different. You wasn't standing around the 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.440 circle of killer a smcs. It was more like just 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:47.440 a crowd looking at you. And then stage was a 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:49.960 little elevated. So when I wrapped there, I got a 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.000 better response. If it wasn't for the BNY Showcase, I 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:55.360 never would have because that gave your confidence back. Hip 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.280 hop shop almost broke me, okay, but let me ask you. 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:01.040 Let me ask you that because, um, for artists that's 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.120 starting out right now, and they had that same experience 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.640 with you, where maybe they had the wrong DJ, maybe 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.480 they played the wrong beasts at the time, I said 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:11.880 the wrong rap, and you said, how how does the 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:16.240 artist bounce back from that? Because um, I think my 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.880 first show I ever did suck too. But I just 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:20.240 had a gun on me, and I just felt like 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.040 everybody knew I had a gun on me. And I 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.320 was like you're gonna bounce if you're going to bounce. 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.400 So but I was like, I don't expect every artist 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:29.520 to do that. So how do you bounce back from 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:31.840 whose first show is supposed to be really good? New 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.560 one's first show is good? Come on? One part of pain? Dude, 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:36.679 we don't But as an artist, we don't know that. 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:39.120 It's just like anything, man Like, like I told you, 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:43.480 I came up playing basketball boxing. It all applies as confidence. 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.959 It's all confidence. You have to figure out a way 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:47.959 to keep your confidence up and not be inside your 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:49.760 own head, not kind of you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.120 you can't let nothing break you. Mr lee Can you 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:58.839 open that? Mr leaad you look at he looks his job. 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:03.880 Mr Lea, you open up? So all right? So now, 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:08.240 so don't I understand this? Correct that you your first 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:14.079 look in the game is Tommy Boy. Um yeah, but 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:18.000 you actually didn't drop an album? No? I mean wait, 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.439 so he was here signing Tommy Boy. Yeah, that's the 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.280 best year in my life. Wait what year is it, 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.319 Tommy Boy? Deal? This is an album and if it's 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:31.480 thanks and you were going by Royce at this time? Bro? Yeah, 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.600 as a DJ, I don't really remember this. No, I remember, 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:38.680 I remember the announce I think it was thought it 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:43.520 was more like I don't think it was ninety eight 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.200 bro okay, but it could have been, like you know, 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:50.439 it could have been eight is somewhere late nineties, okay, nineties, 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:55.280 early two thousand's. Um, I went out. I started staying 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:56.720 in New York with a friend of mine and we 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:58.880 started trying to shop a deal. At that time, you 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:00.800 had to get a record deal that was like that 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:04.719 was like it was there was yeah. So I went 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.160 and took meetings with all the labels Tommy Boy included 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:11.120 played on my demo. Basically I turned down by all 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.080 of them. So I went out there and started working 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:16.280 with Dre and that's when we started writing for the 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.240 Chronic album. This is my second This is another question, 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:23.440 but I'm glad we will take care. Okay, a relative 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:27.360 This is prior to m messing with Dre. Yes, because 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.120 see what happened. Wait wait, I didn't know that because 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:41.080 and I'd be drunk at already excuse um, yes, yes, 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:44.440 if you have this is blowing my mind. This is 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:48.880 I got already you think that I didn't know. I 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:54.920 thought you were going to dre through. I was okay, okay, 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:56.360 my bad. So I kind of skipped over that. So 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.520 let me let me walk you through it. Okay, ahead, 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:00.640 and if I if I start getting scot a brain 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:05.320 and I gotta go back out, scatter brain, definitely welcome here. 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.400 I met Mark. I've seen Marshall the first time I 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:08.880 went to the hip hop shop, but I didn't meet 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:14.520 him until ninety seven. So I was doing this acapella 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:18.400 on stage and I said this whack ass rap. I 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.560 know you. I'm gonna keep calling all my old raps whack, 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:22.640 but they was kind of cool back then. So I 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.640 said this, I said this line. I said, I'm Iller 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:27.959 Thant standing in front of a guerrilla holding the banana. 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.439 That was around cannabis time. That's when cannabis kind of 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:38.000 like killing the future. Yeah, so my man, my man 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.800 um introduced me and uh Me and Marshall on ship. 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.640 So he was like, yo, did you just say yeah? 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:45.640 He was like, did you just say you Iller Than't 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:47.600 standing in front of a guerrilla holding the banana. I 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:49.560 was like yeah, Like we both thought that was ill. 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.960 So it was like we should work. So we started 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:53.480 talking on the phone and ship like that and We 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:55.600 eventually got into the studio. So we did a song 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:59.640 called bad Me's Evil, which became a group. Yeah, so 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:04.600 Marshall said that to you or who said that to you? 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.240 What about the line about the banana? Oh? I said 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.560 the line on stage and then he said something to 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:13.120 me about saying the line because he was at the Yeah, 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.199 he was at the show. He was selling his local 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:19.760 slimshady Oh. Yeah, but he already put out the Infinite Project. Okay, 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:21.760 I had all that ship. But we never met. We 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.680 never officially. I knew exactly who he was. He didn't 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.800 know what was So we got in the studio. We 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:31.080 did Bad Metivil the song, but it was just two 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:35.319 local dudes getting together working on some ship. He what 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.079 was he trying to body him? Because I feel like 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:41.320 you'd be trying to body I feel like I'm just 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:43.320 like I feel like you'd be acting like you don't 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:48.080 have like but you get on the record, nig like 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.080 as a fan, I'm a fan, like I feel like 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:54.560 you like the Floyd Mayweather this ship and were getting 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.679 the boxing too. Was I respect your boxing game that 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.599 I appreciate that? Yo. We we remember being in the 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:01.800 studio was a long time ago, humble may Weather, that's 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:06.800 it's your name. Thank you, We thank a dope name. 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.000 I remember, I remember being able to. I remember being 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:10.880 in the lab and some of my niggas was in 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:15.040 the studio and the vibe and there was that the 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.880 white boy's body and me see, I was always this 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.000 is the beginning. Yeah, this is when we did bad 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:23.360 me see with the first song. Yeah, because they was 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.040 always used to me wrapping better than everybody in the studident. 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.640 So this nigga comes in with the song concept already, 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.240 He telling me what I should say on the hook. 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:34.760 Keep telling me. He teaching me about the way words 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:36.920 roll off the tongue and ship like that, because I 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:40.000 remember like he wrote the hook and it was like 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.559 when we hit the trees till we look like Vietnamese people. 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.839 So I kept saying, we hit the trees, We hit 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:47.679 the trees till we looked like and he was like, yo, 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:51.120 you gotta combine we and hit we hit the trees. 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:52.960 He was like, it rolled off the tongue better. Like 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.720 he was teaching me ship. He wasn't even thinking about 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:58.000 yea so and then when he laid his verse, they 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.600 was kind of like, dam it sound like he rapping 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:02.240 better than you. You You know what I'm saying. I remember 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:04.760 that being the vibe in the studio. So shortly after 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.079 that he got his deal with Dre. So the way 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.720 we started binding was we was always talking on the 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:11.720 phone and every time I record something, send it out 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:12.959 there to him, you know what I'm saying, so he 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.560 could listen to it. So when he played Dre everything 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.680 he had on his demo, out of all of the 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:19.680 features he had on the Dre was like, Yo, that 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:21.520 one song right there is the one you should put 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:26.400 on the album, which was featuring me. Right this nigger 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.520 was playing Drede my demo and I didn't even know it. 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:30.840 So I'm at my mom's crib. I'm standing in my 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.320 mom's crib at the time, and I'm in the room. 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:34.760 I don't know what I'm doing. I'm in my room 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:36.880 and ship my dad just coming the room like, hey, 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:40.480 it's a doctor Dre on the phone for you. No, 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:44.560 gotting a point now, It's not it's your dad. Your 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.600 dad knows that this could be Dr Dre, Dr Dre 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:49.680 or is he one of those guys that don't know 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:54.160 at all? No, my dad young, because the way he 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:56.640 said it I knew it was Dre the way he 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:58.640 said it, because you know, he know Dre, he know 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:01.080 his voice. He probably was like, Yo, this nigga sounds 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:05.120 like the doctor Tred that I see on TV. But 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.000 that's how Dre is. He just called, yo, how you know? 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.880 How you doing this? Royce? There? Doctor Dre. You know 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:11.440 what I'm saying. So he's like, it's a doctor Dre 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:13.360 on the phone. So I'm like what. So I get 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.560 the phone hello and he's like, Yo, what's up? It 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:19.440 is Dre. That's never met him, never met a celebrity 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:22.080 in my life, and how long did it? Just called 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:26.600 my mom's house? That is really Dre? Immediately expect nor 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:33.880 the media. So I'm like, yo, man, how you doing? 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.000 This's an honor to talk to you. And he was like, yo, man, 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:39.400 I really like your ship. He was like, M been 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:41.360 playing me some ship and M didn't tell me he 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.960 was playing it, so that's why I didn't. I didn't know. 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.800 He was the last thing I was expecting. So he 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:48.880 was like, I want you to come out to Cali, 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:50.640 you know if you can, and I've never been to 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.520 Cali before either, and help me out with some ship 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:57.240 that were doing so I flew out there and I 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:00.920 started writing, and then I also had to re record 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:04.120 my vocals on M song for his album. So that's 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:06.520 because it wasn't up to PAF with Dre's because we 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:08.240 just did it. We did we did it at my 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.280 man's studio. But we were just babies, man. You know 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.080 what I'm saying, Like when he got that deal, he 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:16.880 turned into d standards of recording. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:18.760 he's so yo. I mean that's how I ended up 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.960 starting to work on the chronic, start bonding with him more, 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.240 start being MS hype man. Now when all this ship 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.640 starts transpiring, you know, the business is small, man, Like 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:31.160 we're getting around real fast. So all the labels was like, yo, 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:35.480 you want to do another meeting? Tommy Boy included. So 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.080 when I went out there to talk to Tommy that yeah, 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.680 I played with my nigga. Listen, I played the voice. 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:47.160 It was hard to resist that. Yeah, you see, but 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.720 but what but in your heart? Let me ask you 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:54.760 something because a lot of people don't understand this that 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:59.400 sometimes like I heard Drey offered you two fifty? Is 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.360 this correct? And time girl? For you? One point to 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:05.359 something around the area in that ballpark. Man. I just 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.480 remember it was they kept saying a million dollars. Okay, 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.520 you don't kid, point nothing, A million dollars point whatever. 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.520 He was like, all I kept hearing with million dollars, 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:18.520 A million dollars, so that he was offering that no, no, 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:22.840 they got the bank. I'm thinking penalty, my bad. Tommy 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:30.080 Boy crack time, Tommy Boys the Father company exactly, so 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.719 I knew they was cracking the I was meeting directly 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:36.280 with Tom Silverman. It was like, it was like, so, 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.440 it is that one of your biggest regrets that you 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.560 went for the money and you didn't go for the opportunity. No, not, 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:43.800 not really a regret, man, It's not really regret. I 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:45.720 mean it's it's just something. It's one of the things 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.320 you think about as an adult, like, wow, if I 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:50.040 was a little bit more mature, you know how this 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.800 business is. Man, It's like, you don't know, it was 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:54.879 a little more mature. I was a little bit more mature, 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.400 I probably would have done certain things different. You would 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:01.720 have would a lot of times, like a lot of 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:04.520 times when I go for the money play, it's really 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.800 not the play every single time. It's when I go 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:10.159 for the passion play. It always works out for me. 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.119 But when you when you're young, when you're young, you 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.840 don't even you don't even have a full understanding of 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.840 what your passion is yet, you know, like I didn't 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:20.760 have the foresight to be able to see the Dredre 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:23.720 was starting a real movement. He was starting something that 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.080 you want to be a part of the music, you 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.800 know what I'm saying, Like that his album and Marshall's 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:31.399 album and then that Chronic tour was a movement. It 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:34.080 was the biggest thing moving. The big thing about it 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:37.080 was the thing about it was you. But I'm sorry 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:38.959 to say this. I don't want you to feel bad 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:44.360 about your mistaken but you actually fit in the aftermath. 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:48.400 You're actually went alone there. That's that's That's the only 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:50.679 part that that bothers me when I look at that 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.280 history is that I look at him like I know 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:55.480 because to you, I'm thinking, like you, if I'm a 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.240 kid from the hood, that's seven hundred and fifty thousand 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:01.280 more than what I'm hid. But the thing is, you 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:05.399 would have probably made triple that I absolutely would have. 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:07.439 You don't think you don't think it would have been 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:10.120 a fifty fifty look what happened with rock Kim being 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:13.360 on their buster Eve. That's that's a good point, I mean, 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:19.000 and I'm sure he probably took that because that's the 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:22.600 one thing about aftermath is you can be the star 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:26.560 there or you can be the fucking guy that's on well, 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.680 I know, playing third base coach. I know for a 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:33.240 fact by my experiences were working with Dre, I definitely 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:35.800 would have made better music, right Like the music that 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:37.960 I came up with on Tommy Boy it was good, 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:41.960 but as a producer, right like I would have, I 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:43.960 would have made the album that defined me at the 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.640 early age. That's one that's one benefit that I think 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:50.399 I I missed out on, you know. But looking at 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:53.600 it in retrospect too, though, man, it's like if he 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:56.159 just if he just would have told me, like, yo, 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:58.199 I don't think you should do that, I would have 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:03.600 a m yeah, either one of them. Either one of them. 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:05.400 Nobody around me made me feel like I was making 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:09.399 a bad decision at one point. Something that's like it 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:10.919 was just like, all right, what do your album over there? 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:14.240 I wish I was your friend back there? What you 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:19.800 have about like yo, listen? And I got that, like 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:24.760 I started to realize that going for the money, sometimes 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:33.280 you're happy for three weeks. Yeah, you learn. I'm from Detroit, man, 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:36.719 Like I had a terrible time. You know. 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So I watched 0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:10.639 a couple of your interviews, UM and UM to do 0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:15.080 my research. And the thing that nobody really UM pointed 0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:19.680 out is your glasses game is happy. Thank you man. 0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:24.639 You have on custom card frames with Heaven, which is 0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:27.800 the name of your studio. Correct and my correct, you 0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:32.560 are correct. I've never seen car t air frames. I 0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:35.080 watched rap Radar interview and I said, look at these guys. 0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:38.040 They didn't even point out out, they didn't take no 0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:41.800 mention to this guy's classes. These are called diamond cut body, 0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:44.680 look like that all those prescriptions or those just fly 0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:54.880 These are just fly. Yes, yes, I could have gotten 0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:56.480 my prescription and them. I just didn't want to wait 0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:58.399 for him. When I see them, I had to wear 0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:00.679 them immediately because I knew that this style he just 0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:02.400 came out, and I wanted to be the first one. 0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:04.520 I still ain't see nobody with him. I see you 0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:08.679 all right, right off? Listen, he said, I was the 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:12.280 first one with him, So let's make sure that that's 0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:15.800 not I'm sure somebody don't try to the first figure. 0:25:15.880 --> 0:25:20.600 I was looking like, damn, those are different. Okay, So 0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:30.000 now you and him, something happens where there's a fallout. 0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:34.800 Now for this brief moment was a heartbreaking for me 0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:38.919 because again, I don't I've met you. I met him, 0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:41.399 but I don't really know you guys, but I understand 0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:47.040 the relationship from you guys in the public's eyes. Did 0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:51.720 you guys have this falling out? Why wasn't this falling 0:25:51.760 --> 0:26:00.720 out even happen? Um? Okay, the biggest the biggest part 0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:05.399 of it was communication, I would say, lack thereof, you know, 0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:08.960 like we didn't get the opportunity to say to each 0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:12.520 other how we felt about the situation. It was so 0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:16.159 many people, so many people kind of like instigating it 0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:19.320 and saying what they could say. The kind of like 0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:22.400 fuel it did it. I think it turned it got 0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:25.360 a little bit easier for him to just not deal 0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:27.600 with it at all. Then to try to deal with 0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:30.800 it and please all of these people. And on my end, 0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:33.120 it was like I wasn't doing my part to keep 0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:35.600 it peaceful. I was kind of fueling it too, because 0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:37.560 at that time, I felt like I was kind of 0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:39.879 like defending myself. I was standing up for myself. You 0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:41.960 know what I'm saying our fans, because our fans is 0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:44.000 a little bit slow. And I'm sorry to hate when 0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:48.800 I say that. They hate when I say that, because yeah, So, 0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:53.200 what what we were saying is that when the problems occurred, 0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:57.520 there was other people who came in who fueled your mind, 0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:02.399 fueled his mind. Is that what it was because the 0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:07.040 situation was between it was between me and his crew 0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:12.800 detoiled right now? What Na, that's the thing too, Like, yeah, 0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:15.760 it kind of it kind of during like to tell 0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:18.679 end of it, it kind of turned into me me 0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:22.119 versus Proof. It kind of got perceived that way just 0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:24.439 because of how vocal he is, how popular he is, 0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:28.480 and how popular I was at the time. Within that situation, 0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:33.000 it really stems back from an issue between me and Bizarre. 0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:36.640 That's what That's what it comes down to. Bizarre Bizarre, 0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:38.560 Me and Bizarre both went to the same high school. 0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:41.639 He was real cool. Well he wasn't real cool, but 0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:44.280 he was. He knew my big brother, my big brother's age. 0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:46.920 They didn't like each other, you know what I mean. 0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:50.720 So you remember I told you nobody knew how wrapped, right, 0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:54.320 So this nigga Bazarre was like the man in high 0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:57.440 school and rapping. So as soon as he left, he 0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:00.880 found out that I was rapping now right, you don't 0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:04.240 like that. He didn't like that, so he came back 0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:09.359 like I don't like that. So yeah, he wasn't no 0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:11.760 no hating ship and that he's just a competitive Yeah, 0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:13.840 so he he came back and I was at the 0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:16.840 part he approached me and ship to battle, you know 0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:18.679 what I'm saying. So we battled like that was my 0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:23.000 first time actually like knowing the niggasm. We battled, right, 0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:25.159 We did that. So years later I would see him 0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:26.639 at the hip hop shop. I'll see him out. So 0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:30.680 we was cool. When I started hanging with him, everything 0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:32.680 changed with me and everybody, you know what I mean. 0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:36.040 So it was just like once everybody started getting deals, 0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:39.240 everybody was so competitive instead of supportive. That's why I 0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:43.240 always try to teach, not teach, but always try to 0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:47.200 like advocate unity within our community in Detroit with the 0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:50.720 young artist, because when we started getting deals, we were 0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:54.760 the first batch of nigga's getting deals in Detroit in years. 0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:57.200 So instead of us unified with each other, we all 0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:03.040 just competed with each other. Happens in Miami, happened York, 0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:05.239 happens in Queen. So just it just so happened with 0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:09.160 this certain situation. We were competing with each other too 0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:12.160 close under the same umbrella, and it put him in 0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:14.560 put him in the position where he pretty much had 0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:18.040 to choose, you know what I'm saying. So, um, it 0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:20.000 could have been it could have been rectified, but nobody 0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:22.560 was taking those steps. Everybody was just standing their ground, 0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:25.000 you know what I mean. So, so once you do 0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:28.400 that and you don't funk with the communication, everybody around 0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:30.440 is trying to fuel it. They just make it worse 0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:32.120 and worse, worse and worse and worse and worse. So 0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:33.640 every time we've seen each other, they got more and 0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:35.400 more weird. You know what I'm saying. Niggas were saying 0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:37.640 this about each other. Niggs was saying that about each other. 0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:39.400 And I can't blame nobody because I know I did 0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:42.560 my part and the next thing, you know, this record 0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:44.800 got made then I made it was the first thing 0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:47.680 they dissed you first. It was detwolve this you first 0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:50.160 they put out the first record, but not am You 0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:53.600 and M didn't have no it was everybody else and 0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:56.239 M never had a problem. Me and Mr Porter never 0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:59.280 had a problem being Proof never had a problem. It 0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:02.320 was something between and me and bizarre And then it 0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:05.600 just grew. I just grew into something that it shouldn't 0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:07.520 have been, you know what I mean, How did you 0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.640 fix it? I think it was time, you know what 0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:14.000 I mean, Like a lot of time went by, nobody's 0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:16.960 speaking to each other. Then when we finally uh was 0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:20.400 improof passing. That was one of the things. That was 0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:24.120 one of the things. I mean, seeing him in that coffin, man, 0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:27.920 it was just like, yeah, yeah, God blessed. Seeing him 0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:29.960 in that coffin was just like, it's just too surreal, 0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:32.800 you know what I mean, Like at one point I 0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:36.080 thought I didn't like him at one point, but seeing 0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:38.280 him in that coffin and it broke my heart so much, 0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:42.040 and seeing them all in the front row and seeing 0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:45.000 what the family went through and all of these different 0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:48.720 feelings and emotions. It just it makes you feel like 0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:50.640 life is short, Like what the funk are we beating for? 0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:53.400 You know what I mean? So, I mean that was 0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:54.640 one of the things. I think that was one of 0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:58.040 the things that helped Marshall kind of because me improof, 0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:01.080 me improof pieced it up way before he passed. He 0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:03.200 was like real cool. We went back on tour together 0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:05.080 and ship like that. Poof was like one of the 0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:07.200 happiest guys. I don't know, like he was always was 0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:11.320 happy every time. I forget what strip club I shot. 0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:14.480 I filmed. I keep I hate saying shot. Um. I 0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:17.520 filmed in Detroit. Um it was about an eight mile 0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:22.960 and I did the movie. Um what what was the movie? 0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:25.800 Not hard movie? No, no, nothing hard movie. It was, 0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:31.200 um Jerry Ride. Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm enjoy Ride Detroit. 0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:34.880 I was out there. I holed to joint and before 0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:37.440 I get to the Joe buttons, Joe button and all 0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:44.800 that stuff, checking in. Checking in was basically almost invented 0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:52.360 by Detroit niggers. Right. How I visualized checking in was 0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:58.320 this was my homies anyway, So check my niggas is 0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:02.280 my niggas. I never felt landing in Detroit and say Yo, 0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:05.200 nig I'm here because that's what they required. They asked me. 0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:07.760 They didn't demand it. They they say nigga checking in, 0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:10.440 nigga mother. They they just say yo, nigga, when you 0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.280 in my city. I want to know because I know 0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:16.720 that there's other grammy niggas running around this city that 0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.080 might get you because they know you work with me. 0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:23.680 So I've always came to Detroit and I've always and 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.800 most of the time these niggles to be busy anyway, 0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:30.880 So these niggas are, But Detroit is kind of like 0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:36.920 the people who patterned that checking in. What do you 0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:38.680 feel about that right now? Because this is this is 0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:41.400 a big controversy about checking in. Yeah, I don't know. 0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:43.880 I don't understand why such a controversy. I think it's 0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:49.600 just a lot of people they're they're measuring stick on 0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:54.400 what respect is. It's just completely different. It's just completely different, 0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:56.880 you know what I mean. Like I learned respect in 0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:59.720 the household, like my dad was. My dad ran the 0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.720 house with the iron fist, you know what I mean. 0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:05.600 So I got punched in the face at home before 0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:07.360 I ever could get punched in the face in the street. 0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:09.640 I mean, I think that. I think that should happen 0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.360 to every kid. I should happen every get punch in 0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:17.240 your face? Is the fact we spreading it or drink kids, 0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:20.200 you get punch in the base. Everyone including your own, 0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:23.280 get punch in the base. Once. Let's go. When you 0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.720 go to somebody's city, you're going to the house. I 0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:29.240 said here as a girl, girls should not. It's like 0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:31.480 it's like it's like, you know, somebody, if somebody come 0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:33.400 to your house. Man, you know, like if I go 0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:36.479 to somebody's house, I'm thinking, damn, man. The first thing 0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:38.000 I do is I look at the carpet, like should 0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:41.400 I be taking my shoes off? This guy got white carpet. 0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:42.880 Let me take my shoes. I can go to your 0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.480 house for five thousand years, and I still will ask 0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:47.480 you can I go to the frigerator? Yes, Like I 0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:50.120 still be like yo, I will never go on someone's frigerator. 0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:52.120 Like I sort of go. I can go to your house, 0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.560 I said, I sort of. I still ask you can 0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:57.000 I use the bathroom? Like that's just who I am. 0:33:57.160 --> 0:33:59.760 Not everybody has that common sense, but not everybody was 0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:09.800 He's right, customs. I don't know before I even messed 0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:11.680 up I mean, like, yo, bru, when I go to 0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:13.399 somebody and you know what else, it was like that 0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:17.680 Styles piece. I came to my crib, this nigga cleaned 0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:21.080 up a mess that he didn't even make, like I'm 0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:23.319 just out there. And that's how the styles he was 0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:25.560 a killer. Off top the nigga came. I was like 0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:27.759 the hold on ory and this thing. I was like 0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.600 just just like some bottles I had from drinking, and 0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:32.279 like I was going to clean it up. But he 0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:34.120 got the first thing he did. He walked in my 0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:36.759 house and say, oh, scoose me. He didn't, he didn't 0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:39.000 say somebody's violing, and he just picked this shut up. 0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:43.160 I said, this nigga's like killer because anything is that's 0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:48.759 nice like that oh his other side. And so I 0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:51.160 knew that on top of me being a screen nigger, 0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:52.759 and I'm like, yo, you know what i mean, I'm 0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:55.400 sorry I went I went a little crazy. Kay? What 0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:57.719 that was? That was my new son was a great 0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.759 nigga's uh. I mean yeah, I think it's just a 0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:06.480 respect thing. I totally understand it. Just because I'm from Detroit. 0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:09.439 Maybe if I came from somewhere else, the lines would 0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:11.239 be a little skewed. Maybe I would look at it like, 0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:12.560 damn what they're trying to say, you know what I mean? 0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:16.279 So I understand why some people don't understand, but I mean, 0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.879 everything ain't for you to understand. No, But the thing 0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:24.640 about it is Royce, right, you being from being from 0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:27.400 not even from Detroit, you being from hip hop. And 0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:30.080 you know when I got an album called The Warrior 0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:36.360 Port and I have a partner who's from Queensbridge and 0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:39.360 it's from left right, and you go to Queensbridge and 0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:43.120 left right because your record label tells you you gotta 0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:46.200 go out there and go promote in this restaurant and 0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:50.120 then go promote and this guy's and I gotta retail store. 0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.600 One of the first things you shouldn't do. It's called 0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:57.759 the two Motherfucker's, you know from that spot. So I 0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:02.080 gotta say your Royce, man, it's like reflect, reflect, I'm 0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:05.120 not even going out there right now, and you can 0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:07.839 make a decision right from there and then but now 0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:10.680 you don't make that call, and ship happens. This is 0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:14.600 the reason why, Like I'm just I'm just debating the cost. 0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:17.000 But do you think that's the same context that they're 0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:19.239 using it now? Just to be devils. Yeah, I didn't 0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:22.320 think that case. I checked in with you for the 0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:24.319 for the whole time. I got my drugs from you 0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:30.319 for twelve years straight. Let's make the norm I used 0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:32.840 to spend in Miami. I try to. I said, you 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:35.480 know what, I drop's gonna give me the dry He'll 0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:38.040 give me the way, he'll ednie gigs, he won't bring 0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:41.200 it personally gigs and what I wanted to see, you 0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:48.439 brought it too. God makes a lot of time about 0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:51.239 what I'm saying that. But no, let me people can 0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:53.680 say that was checking antie. I know, no, I'm gonna 0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:55.839 say that when I landed in Miami and I said, 0:36:57.120 --> 0:37:00.400 when I'm landing in Miami and I wanted to do yeah, 0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:04.200 I hate you. You you what you're saying, that's called 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:07.000 checking what I'm trying to do. Devil's an avocate, the 0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:09.480 devil's advocate. The context is different because you're saying you 0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:12.200 check them with people you knew. These people now are 0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:14.760 arguing over checking when people they don't know. Well, guess 0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.320 what if you go to a person city, that's exactly 0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:19.799 what's gonna happen. This is their city. You don't know 0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:22.120 these people in the city. You have to meet them. 0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:24.399 You have meeting. It is different, you know what I'm saying, 0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:27.640 especially if you're gonna continue to go to that city. 0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.680 It's nothing wrong with saying your trick, trick, what's up, 0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:32.640 chad of boys with something? I know, I'm old school. 0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:34.719 I know. You know what I'm saying. You know it's 0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:36.920 so very old school, you know what I mean, But 0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:38.640 it is not wrong. You know what's up. I'm here, 0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.239 but I'm gonna eat over here. I'm going to be 0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:43.920 over there, like all right. Cool, Because now if something 0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:45.840 happened in the city and then you're gonna rush to 0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:48.680 them after, then it's like, Nigga, you should have said that. 0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.680 You know they're gonna call after you, so you might 0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:54.279 as gonna say from the beginning. 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That's what it could be. 0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:38.680 That's what people don't realize. It's like right. So so now, 0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:44.399 Joe butten, you guys were actually beefing right before y'all 0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:48.600 started slaughter House. You guys are actually coming at each other. 0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:51.880 Not not not technically. I mean, he didn't come at me. 0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:54.919 He didn't come back at me. I was firing off 0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:58.000 on him on my mixtape because he started. He just 0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:01.000 dissed me for no reason. That's how he is, big 0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:06.839 him up. He's a bergo. That's how we are. I'm sorry. 0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:08.759 I'm sorry this in case Joe Thaw was coming that 0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:11.839 had my hurgos and he just dissed me for no reason. Bro, 0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:13.640 I was like, I gotta call out of nowhere, like, hell, 0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:15.640 you you know this is Joe Button nigger. I was like, 0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.359 Joe Button, Oh, you didn't know him. I had never 0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:20.680 met him, because I felt like all y'all knew each 0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:23.479 other in the mind. Man, Bro, I didn't know Joe. 0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:25.480 I didn't know. I didn't know him. I wasn't following 0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:28.000 him like I wasn't. I'm not gonna say I wasn't 0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:31.120 a fan because I did. Um. My wife liked his 0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:34.200 first album. She used she used to play it, so 0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:37.080 I used to hear some of the songs. Yea pump 0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:38.239 it up, AM when I used to hear some of 0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:39.560 the songs and be like, you know, this is a 0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:41.880 crap like this. So I was aware that he was 0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.000 a high level with MC. I was aware, but I 0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:47.759 wouldn't like following his his his independent initially started y'all 0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:50.560 to even start sparring, bro, What did he say? I 0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:52.960 wouldn't did this thing. I got myself in this situation, bro, 0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:55.359 where I was in the battle with Mr Fab. Y'all 0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:57.319 talked about it on here before Mr I was in 0:41:57.320 --> 0:41:59.839 the battle with Mr Fab. He smoked me, smoked me, 0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:03.040 smoked me. So Joe was supposed to be there. I 0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:04.520 didn't know I was gonna be in the battle. I 0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:07.080 wasn't prepared to battle because I can't free stop, so 0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:08.520 I ain't had nothing written for it. So I was 0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:13.120 just doing like regular raps and ship Yeah, shout out 0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:14.799 the chuck from all hip hop. Because he told me 0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:17.600 I wasn't coming to a battle. He told me something 0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:21.000 totally different than when I got there. I was just yeah. 0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:23.839 So Joe never showed up. I was supposed Mr Bab 0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:27.640 said he put on the show. He said he put 0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:31.759 slowed the house together. He's one of the he's one 0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:34.320 of the kind of like the kid he kind of 0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:43.120 like the catalyst continue and shot. So you know, so 0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:45.239 the whole time, you know, like if Joe would have 0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:48.440 showed up, he was the one, because the whole place 0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:52.839 was just like Joe. Yeah, he kept saying, he kept 0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:54.719 saying he was on his way. This nigga kept telling 0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:56.680 Chuck he was on his way, knowing he wasn't coming. 0:42:57.320 --> 0:42:59.360 So the whole places like built up in that and 0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:01.839 we took some from all hip from all hip hop. 0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:05.000 My nigga's my nigg even though he lied to me. 0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:09.000 So he blatantly knew that it was a battle because 0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:12.360 he knew I wouldn't be in it, like Fante Fante 0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:14.920 was in it, and then Fante pulled out at the 0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:17.120 last minute. So I knew something was fishing because everybody 0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:20.560 kept pull little brother. Yeah. I didn't even know Mr 0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:23.000 Fab at that point, so it was like they told 0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:25.719 he was definitely unknown. He was unknown, So I'm like, 0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:29.560 I'm not knowing this nigg is a freestyle wizard, you know. Yeah, 0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:32.080 that's my kid. Yeah, So it's like so I'm like 0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:35.200 I'm like they like, you're just gonna rhyme versus you're 0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:37.319 gonna rhyme versus and the crowd is gonna judge him. 0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:41.800 I get there. Craig g as the host that should 0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:47.640 have been a flat specialist all the time queens Bridge 0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:50.920 by the way, all the battles, he was like you ready, 0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:52.759 you got your raps ready for the battle. I'm like, yo, 0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:54.880 I'm not here the battle. And he was looking at 0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:58.000 me like like he knew. He knew, you know what 0:43:58.040 --> 0:43:59.759 I'm saying. So it was like and then Joe kept 0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:01.960 saying he was on the way. He never showed up, 0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:03.760 you know what I'm saying. Like they was like Joe's 0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.680 brother had just got shot or some ship like that. 0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:10.320 So it ended up just being me and Mr Fab 0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:17.400 No other contestants was directly at you. No, no, he freestyles. 0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:21.000 Know if if he would have directed his raps at me, 0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:23.320 which he could have did because he's a freestyler, he 0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:25.359 would have killed me even worse. So he held back 0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:28.480 and saying I told him, don't direct no raps at 0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:31.200 I told him before that. I was like, bro, I 0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:34.200 come in to battle. You know what I'm saying, don't 0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:37.080 face me, say nothing about me. And he was just like, 0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:39.520 all right, cool, I respect that we shook hands. He 0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:42.040 was cool, so he wrapped his raps, but he was 0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:44.839 he was kicking battle raps, but he wasn't saying my name. 0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:47.279 So I just remember him saying something like I get 0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:49.640 you shot like Choe Brother did or something, you know 0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:51.840 what I'm saying. Like it was like he was freestyling. 0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:54.239 So he was already talking about Joe Brother is just 0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:56.640 good man, you know what I'm saying. So all while 0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:58.719 he rapping, I'm sitting and thinking to myself, this is bad. 0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:01.680 This is bad. So I'll go. I get to Mike 0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:04.200 and I'm rapping Versus off of my album that I 0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:06.480 worked I was working on at that time. In the 0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:08.680 crowd was just like, all right, we came to see 0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:11.760 a battle, you know what I'm saying. So it's hot. 0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:14.239 But literally the only person in the room who don't 0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:26.120 realize who don't realize the battle so so so you know, 0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:30.440 like halfway through fab Mr Fab first verse, I realized, Okay, 0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:33.200 I'm not gonna I'm not gonna win this so um 0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.480 because that I was told you will win up like 0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:40.040 a prize to win determined though the crowd, judge crowd. 0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:41.920 It was a pro New York crowd. This is the 0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:48.920 reason why I actually to all the respect to was. 0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:50.600 That's the reason why I took a liking to Mr 0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:54.759 fab was because he had an l a accent, uh 0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:58.520 you know California actually excuse me, and he had all 0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:01.520 this and he kind of like challenged everybody in the crowd, 0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:04.040 and I was just like, all right, cool. That was 0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:07.640 dope to me because he was the exact opposite of 0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:09.719 what we're used to seeing, Like I like, I'm a 0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:12.320 fan of about a rap. I don't want to battle 0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:17.400 nobody though. He was like he had on the shirt 0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:20.080 I think he had on the shirt with like airbrush 0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:23.000 on it and shape. He just didn't look he didn't 0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:25.680 look like nobody that I felt like compete with me 0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:27.040 and wrapping, you know what I mean. So I was 0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:28.560 just looking at him like all right, I should be 0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:29.880 all right, it's just me and this guy. You know 0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:31.880 what I'm saying, Like I've never heard of him, you 0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:34.759 know what I'm saying, Like the nigger start rapping? And 0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:39.880 how did how did you and Joe? That is that 0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:42.400 how you meet? You and Joe became cool? Yeah? Because okay, 0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:45.120 so look so after he won that battle, you know, 0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:47.760 it was footage of it, so it went on YouTube. Joe, 0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:50.719 knowing he didn't show up, goes and looks at the footage. 0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:53.719 So I guess maybe he was a fan of me 0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:57.040 before and he felt like, oh Royce fell off because 0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:59.400 look how he looked in this battle. So you know, 0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:01.719 Joe came just keep his feelings to itself. He got 0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:04.080 to go public and say the ship and this ain't 0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:07.360 even podcast Joe, this is just it's just troublemaker Joe. 0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:11.120 So he um. He went in interview with DJ Envy 0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:14.839 and he said some ship about the battle and talked 0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:17.160 about how I looked like ship in the battle, and 0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:19.080 Envy was agreeing with him, like yeah, he didn't look 0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:20.839 realty bad, you know what I'm saying. Like, so there's 0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:23.360 this whole conversation about how bad I looked in the battle, 0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:25.600 and I don't have no mic to be able to 0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:28.120 clarify what really happened. It was just an l I 0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:31.600 just had to take. So um. And then Joe makes 0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:34.480 a song and then in the song he's like, uh 0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:37.320 something something something something about Mr fab because him and 0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:39.160 Mr Fad was having words too, and he was like 0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:41.080 and Royce failed the funk off. So I ain't gonna 0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:44.120 mention him and none, no, no, done. My phone blew 0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:45.759 up like crazy to tell me about the song. So 0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:48.880 I'm like this niggod, this nig is actually saying my 0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:51.799 name didn't show up for the battle that he did. 0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:55.520 He didn't show la that's what you're saying. Yeah, So 0:47:55.560 --> 0:47:57.720 I'm just taking ls all across the board at this point. 0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:04.160 So like, so, um, I did, like what the m 0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:05.480 c s do? You know what I'm saying. I picked 0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:08.880 up a pen and I told myself, I'm not gonna 0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:14.400 let up on Joe Button until he responds. He's not 0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:17.440 gonna say my name. You like five records, right, I 0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:20.080 can't remember how many. I didn't write no records about him. 0:48:21.040 --> 0:48:22.759 I just because at that point it was like in 0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:24.040 my mind it was like I got I want to 0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:26.800 beat him. I want to beat him. So like whatever 0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:29.279 I'm gonna battle somebody, I never just I never just 0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:32.640 shoot the full clip immediately out the gate. I'll say 0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:36.279 a line, if you respond, if you respond to it, 0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:39.960 then I'm gonna go. You know what I'm saying, I 0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:45.960 really right now, that's the young girl. So I mentioned 0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:48.760 his name a few times on my mixtape Bar exam 0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:52.680 and he did some interviews, he said some more stuff. 0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:55.200 Whatever the case, it didn't seem like that he really 0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:57.520 wanted the battle. I ended up finding out later that 0:48:57.640 --> 0:48:59.439 he was just like he was gonna respond. He wrote 0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:03.839 some ship. He just never put it out. So, um, 0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:06.840 the ship that I was dissing him on, he heard 0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:08.279 that and he was a fan of that. So I 0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:10.160 guess he heard it and was like, oh, so this 0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:12.799 nigga didn't fall off. And his boys was telling him, man, 0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:14.920 I don't think you should dis him, and Keno was 0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:17.399 telling me stop dissing him. I don't think you should 0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:20.040 dis him. Y'all should work together. So this nigga caused 0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:24.520 me out of nowhere. I'm I'm at the hospital. My 0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:33.520 first daughter is being born. So he Um, we get 0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:36.919 on the phone, Joe called, Yeah, and Joe because Keno 0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:39.040 told me, he was like yo, he he reached out 0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:44.840 to me through Chuck, who look like the guy. I 0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:47.680 don't sense to up. I don't sex to up set up. 0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:51.000 Chuck set me up, fab killed me, and then Joe 0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:54.160 didn't show up. He sold me out. So so um, 0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:55.799 we get on the phone and he's like, yo, man, 0:49:55.840 --> 0:49:57.680 what's up? Man? Like I want to. I got this song. 0:49:57.760 --> 0:49:59.040 I want to. I want to. I want you to 0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:01.719 get on. I started to be like, yo, what's up 0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:03.680 with that ship? You've been talking? You know what I'm saying. 0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:06.919 But I just was like, I'm in the hospital about 0:50:06.960 --> 0:50:12.200 to have my first girl. Keo was like Keno was like, 0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:14.160 you shouldn't. You shouldn't be dissing him because I wrote 0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:16.239 some more ships I was about to put out and 0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:17.520 he was like, no, I don't put that out. You 0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:20.040 shouldn't put that out. So I didn't want to feel 0:50:20.040 --> 0:50:21.440 like I was a troublemaker because I think I was 0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:23.920 fighting a lot at that time. So I was just like, 0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:26.880 all right, man, I just pretended like nothing never happened, 0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:29.600 because that's how Joe is. If you don't like bring it, 0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:32.840 bring it up to him, he won't talk about it 0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:35.080 because it's nothing to him, Like it's not. I took 0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:37.640 it personal. He didn't. I took the ship real personal. 0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:39.560 I was mad, you know, me and my little brothers 0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:41.120 to talk about like my seat of snigger, you know 0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:44.120 what I'm saying, Like he's totally oblivious to him. It's 0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:45.799 just rap, you know what I'm saying. So I learned 0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:47.319 that about him. Once I got to know him, so 0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:49.439 I was like, well, who's gonna be on the song? 0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:54.360 He was like, I'm putting you Crooked Eye Joel Ortiz. 0:50:55.360 --> 0:50:56.680 And I was like, man, that should sound like a 0:50:56.719 --> 0:50:58.799 slaughter House. And he was like, oh shoot, I think 0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:02.160 I'm gonna call the song that. So I went, I 0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:05.879 left the hospital. I left the hospital that night, went 0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:08.480 later diverse real quick, came right back to the hospital 0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:10.000 and sent it to him. He put it out the 0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:16.720 next day, and that's how slaughter House was for him. 0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:21.960 I'm not I thought, we're just gonna have to be 0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:25.960 seven questions later. How you put the grove together? That 0:51:25.960 --> 0:51:30.200 that's an amazing that's an amazing story, best ship I've 0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:35.680 ever heard. Look at that and it works. But you 0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:37.360 know what I learned from that, man, It's like, you 0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:40.680 gotta stop taking everything personal. Yep, you have to keep 0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:44.239 you gotta keep an open mind about relationships. Sometimes we 0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:48.000 don't run around on everybody's dick, but don't close yourself 0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:50.680 off from people. I did that for many years. Once 0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:53.600 I started collaborating with people and being open to just 0:51:54.280 --> 0:51:57.200 getting to know other sides of people instead of judging 0:51:57.239 --> 0:51:59.480 them before you really get to know him. I got 0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:02.120 to meet some good people. I learned a lot from collaborating, 0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:05.240 and I achieved a lot of successful ship just standing 0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:08.040 next to people and playing my playing my position, and 0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:10.200 also being willing to learn from people. You know what 0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:11.879 I'm saying. You think you would have made that same 0:52:11.920 --> 0:52:14.280 decision without the people around you that was telling you, 0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:17.000 you know, just do it played a part. But I 0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:19.080 think I had I was. I was at the right age. 0:52:19.320 --> 0:52:21.799 I had been through enough. You know, I certainly didn't 0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:23.920 want to have problems with nobody at that point, you 0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:27.279 know what I mean. But you know, I still I'm competitive. 0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:29.800 I'm an m C. I'm certainly not the type of 0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:31.600 MC you could just say my name, you know what 0:52:31.640 --> 0:52:33.520 I mean, Like we're gonna you say my name. We're 0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:41.560 gonna battle all year. How honored are you so? Um 0:52:41.760 --> 0:52:43.759 be on the list of people that they say that 0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:46.440 Eminem didn't body on the record, they said they the 0:52:46.840 --> 0:52:50.720 list that he bodied people on the record, It's phenomenal. 0:52:51.360 --> 0:52:53.279 I'm honored just to work with him, man, You know, 0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:55.919 I'm honored. I'm honored to work with him. Every time 0:52:55.920 --> 0:52:57.759 we do something. Every time we do something, I still 0:52:57.840 --> 0:53:02.000 feel it's the same with Preme. I never really like, goddamn, 0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:08.839 make some noise for me, we get into that, let's 0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:12.480 don't work. Yeah, I mean, I just I just you know, 0:53:12.520 --> 0:53:14.160 when we started working with each other, it was just 0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:17.560 respect for each other as m c S. I didn't 0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:19.759 have no idea he was gonna become what he what 0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:26.280 he became, you know. So um, once we started working 0:53:26.320 --> 0:53:29.560 and he became like this phenomenon and yeah he was 0:53:29.640 --> 0:53:31.520 body and everybody, you know, like when he was doing 0:53:31.560 --> 0:53:33.520 a lot of features with people, that was like his thing. 0:53:33.719 --> 0:53:37.879 But um, I don't know, man, I kinda we used 0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:39.480 to do songs. I just didn't used to feel like 0:53:39.960 --> 0:53:41.600 I always felt like he killed me on every song. 0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:44.279 Oh yeah I did. I didn't realize people was gonna 0:53:44.280 --> 0:53:46.360 be like, yo, you're the only person who body marshal 0:53:46.400 --> 0:53:49.720 on songs or you still test the time. I couldn't. 0:53:49.880 --> 0:53:53.160 I can't think on one time my body, not one time. Well, um, 0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:57.560 now let me ask you the life long hip hop 0:53:57.719 --> 0:54:02.440 question all time, and I want you to take yourself 0:54:02.640 --> 0:54:06.560 out of your friendship mode. And I'm just I'm asking 0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:14.879 the hip hop fan who had the better verse? Are 0:54:15.000 --> 0:54:19.400 in a game that's been an ongoing conversation here. Come on, 0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:23.560 if you was drinking right now, this is every time 0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:26.000 I'll give you a shot, but I'm not gonna take 0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:31.879 a shot. I'm drinking this delicious mindstanding you drink. Hopefully 0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:37.160 they shot over picked them up. 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You can help start 0:57:01.800 --> 0:57:05.680 Keep Hearing Foundation reach goal by the donating to the 0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:09.360 listen in campaign today. To give the gift of hearing, 0:57:09.680 --> 0:57:13.080 go to listen in campaign dot org. That's l I 0:57:13.360 --> 0:57:16.520 S T N I N C A M P A 0:57:17.120 --> 0:57:21.360 I g N dot org. Go to listen in campaign 0:57:21.440 --> 0:57:26.439 dot org to give the gift of hearing today. Yes, please, 0:57:27.640 --> 0:57:29.600 we'll put it to you like this, my nigga. First 0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:33.960 of all, the real answer is there is no There 0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:36.920 is no answer to that question. It's like asked. It's 0:57:36.960 --> 0:57:43.240 like asking somebody better between big and it's keep. It's 0:57:43.280 --> 0:57:47.320 based off your your preference. They provided you two different 0:57:47.360 --> 0:57:49.840 things that you can't really compare now. If you want 0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:52.360 to go if you want to go deeper, I'm a 0:57:52.440 --> 0:57:56.360 whole stand that retigate whole versus light work for whole, 0:57:56.680 --> 0:58:04.560 light work, light work, light work, kind of listen that 0:58:04.840 --> 0:58:07.919 m verse light work. Me and M did that song 0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:10.560 and just threw it away. We did the song. It 0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:15.120 was like you was the actually that was my record. 0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:18.200 He produced it right and he produced it, right, So 0:58:18.360 --> 0:58:22.560 your versus was whole with Hold. Water was taking my 0:58:22.640 --> 0:58:25.600 verses out and Hold. He sent it to Hold with 0:58:25.680 --> 0:58:28.200 holes in it, and Hold just wrapped and filled it in. 0:58:29.800 --> 0:58:33.560 Damn right, damn right, you fucking sucking up the whole poet. 0:58:36.120 --> 0:58:44.640 You came here for a reason. Don't hit them, Okay. 0:58:44.840 --> 0:58:48.160 So that describe subscribe how this happens you. You guys 0:58:48.440 --> 0:58:52.360 do the record. Jay Z flies to Detroit, I imagine, 0:58:53.160 --> 0:58:57.280 no California. They sent the records, sent it, sent it 0:58:58.280 --> 0:59:01.480 and m sends Jay there. It's just just what it was, 0:59:01.520 --> 0:59:04.040 the same as act record. Yeah, he had been asking, 0:59:04.120 --> 0:59:06.800 He had been asking them, and they've been both. Their 0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:09.640 schedules was crazy, so they kept missing each other. So 0:59:09.800 --> 0:59:14.160 um he asked him. Him called me, was like, Yo, 0:59:14.280 --> 0:59:17.120 I'm I'm thinking about giving jay Z this Renegade record. 0:59:17.160 --> 0:59:19.480 What you think would you be cool with that? And 0:59:19.520 --> 0:59:21.080 I just felt like it was cool to he even 0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:23.440 asked me because technically it wasn't my record no more. 0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:27.520 We we did two records, and I was supposed to 0:59:27.560 --> 0:59:30.000 just pick one of them for me to use the 0:59:30.040 --> 0:59:32.040 other one, but you know what I mean, Like Renegade 0:59:32.160 --> 0:59:33.800 was just something we felt like we can, we could 0:59:33.840 --> 0:59:36.120 do better. I felt like we could do better, you know, 0:59:36.200 --> 0:59:47.080 So we took my verses off, took my listen, you yo, 0:59:48.240 --> 0:59:50.960 I'm not saying we was right. I'm not saying it 0:59:51.080 --> 0:59:54.160 was right. I just I'm just saying, maybe maybe they 0:59:56.600 --> 1:00:00.880 just said that's what you basically said. Listen. Maybe it's 1:00:00.920 --> 1:00:02.720 maybe we just had like a maybe I had like 1:00:02.760 --> 1:00:05.120 a picture in my head, or maybe I had something 1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:06.920 in my mind that I felt like we needed to 1:00:06.960 --> 1:00:10.360 be doing at that time. And maybe I was just 1:00:10.360 --> 1:00:14.320 trying to shape ship according to my album, but I wasn't. 1:00:14.360 --> 1:00:17.040 I mean, I felt like it was good. It became 1:00:17.120 --> 1:00:19.000 great when they did it, when we were doing it, 1:00:19.040 --> 1:00:20.800 I felt like it was good, you know what I mean. 1:00:20.840 --> 1:00:22.560 Like I didn't think it. I didn't think it was that, 1:00:22.760 --> 1:00:25.200 you know what I mean. So my part of the 1:00:25.240 --> 1:00:27.760 hook got taken out, My verses got taken out, and 1:00:27.760 --> 1:00:31.080 he sent it to Jay like that. We still and 1:00:31.160 --> 1:00:33.720 when Jay says his part, that's never been afraid to 1:00:33.800 --> 1:00:36.320 say what's on my mind? I mean, I still I 1:00:36.440 --> 1:00:39.680 still said that. I said that part, but my version 1:00:39.720 --> 1:00:42.800 of it. Old took it and rewrote his part to 1:00:42.960 --> 1:00:47.120 say Cove's way but it was the same words, just 1:00:47.320 --> 1:00:49.320 never been afraid to say just the same words. It's 1:00:51.280 --> 1:00:59.800 oh yeah, because he was like because jigga, jigga like 1:00:59.840 --> 1:01:02.960 that part. At first it was because royce'ster can't get 1:01:03.000 --> 1:01:05.640 Detroit and I'm just saying this to Mr kiss my 1:01:05.760 --> 1:01:08.800 asses Justice. So he just switched. As the version exists somewhere, 1:01:10.400 --> 1:01:17.600 what's all long? Would you? Yeah? Well that put that 1:01:17.680 --> 1:01:24.720 up doubt Now what what what do you feel about 1:01:24.720 --> 1:01:30.440 the ghost right and ship? Because it's very favorite stories. 1:01:30.680 --> 1:01:35.080 You ghost writing for a lot of people? Really, I 1:01:35.080 --> 1:01:38.800 think he mentioned a couple of them already. Yeah, I 1:01:38.800 --> 1:01:42.560 mean everybody who who I wrote without? It's pretty much 1:01:42.600 --> 1:01:44.920 public knowledge. I tweeted this the other day too. I 1:01:45.040 --> 1:01:48.680 never secretly wrote for nobody, contrary to popular belief. I 1:01:48.680 --> 1:01:51.520 don't know why people think that, but I really haven't. 1:01:52.120 --> 1:01:54.680 So who did you write for? Publicly? I wrote for Puff, 1:01:54.960 --> 1:01:58.680 that's right, Hen't afraid to say that? Not Yeah, I 1:01:58.680 --> 1:02:00.840 wrote for Dre I wrote them. Afraid to say that 1:02:00.880 --> 1:02:03.160 I wrote the message on the chronic album I wrote. 1:02:03.480 --> 1:02:06.680 I wrote tell Me with Christina Aguilera for Puff on 1:02:06.680 --> 1:02:08.880 the Space Hold On You A R and B Burgers Too. 1:02:10.640 --> 1:02:15.640 Version I thought you made Christina. I said, what on 1:02:15.680 --> 1:02:17.400 the song that I know? I thought you make you 1:02:17.440 --> 1:02:21.720 wrote with Christina Alara. I'm like, Nick, what's the one? Okay? 1:02:22.080 --> 1:02:25.120 I wish, but um, yeah, I wrote that. I wrote 1:02:25.200 --> 1:02:30.400 up the original Exploment. Oh yeah, yeah, I wrote yeah 1:02:30.800 --> 1:02:32.160 with some of the Ship that I wrote on Dre 1:02:32.280 --> 1:02:33.800 album that didn't make the album. Some of that is 1:02:33.840 --> 1:02:38.160 like on he said, the original Explosion record another I 1:02:40.600 --> 1:02:45.520 took a I'm trying. Is there anybody else? I don't 1:02:45.520 --> 1:02:49.480 think I wrote for nobody else? Oh yeah, bro, for 1:02:49.560 --> 1:02:58.720 who cannabis? Cannabis? Say that? Oh yeah, who, Who's who? 1:02:58.840 --> 1:03:08.000 You write for cannabis? Come on? He got serious. I 1:03:08.080 --> 1:03:12.920 totally forgot all about that. Man. It's something serious, right, 1:03:13.360 --> 1:03:15.040 it was. I was in I was in the lab 1:03:15.120 --> 1:03:17.040 one time. Oh my god, he's gonna he's gonna want 1:03:17.040 --> 1:03:18.080 to kill me for this. But I was in the 1:03:18.120 --> 1:03:22.200 lab with cannabis back in the day and ships and 1:03:22.280 --> 1:03:25.440 he um, I don't know, man, he must have reached 1:03:25.440 --> 1:03:27.120 like a point in his life man where he just 1:03:27.200 --> 1:03:29.360 kind of like throwing his hands up with this ship. 1:03:29.480 --> 1:03:30.960 So he was like, we were like working on the 1:03:31.000 --> 1:03:32.880 song and ship, and I laid my verse, and he 1:03:32.960 --> 1:03:36.280 was like, yeah, man, that ship sounds crazy. And he 1:03:36.400 --> 1:03:38.600 was like should You can probably just go ahead and 1:03:38.600 --> 1:03:42.040 write the whole song if you want to. And I 1:03:42.120 --> 1:03:44.760 was like, what you know, you hear somebody say some 1:03:44.800 --> 1:03:47.320 ships just can't quite believe it, so you make him 1:03:47.320 --> 1:03:49.800 repeat it just to make sure you ain't tripping. So 1:03:49.840 --> 1:03:52.680 I was like you, what'd you say? So he basically 1:03:52.680 --> 1:03:54.320 was asking me to write the whole song, so I 1:03:54.360 --> 1:03:57.520 would just I was like, listen, bro, you a legend. 1:03:57.560 --> 1:04:00.360 Bro Like, I started just talking him off the edge, 1:04:01.520 --> 1:04:02.960 talking to him off the ledge, and I was just 1:04:03.200 --> 1:04:05.040 in my mind thinking to myself, I can't do this. 1:04:05.160 --> 1:04:07.760 You know, like you cannabis, my nigger, You're a cannabis. 1:04:08.560 --> 1:04:10.360 So it's just like we end up we did. We 1:04:10.400 --> 1:04:12.200 did the song, and he ended up writing his verse. 1:04:12.240 --> 1:04:14.600 But if he if he, if I would have wrote it, 1:04:14.600 --> 1:04:18.160 he would have let me this cannabis is cannabis, of course. 1:04:18.280 --> 1:04:21.320 And before the battle that he did, this is what 1:04:21.320 --> 1:04:27.800 I'm saying after this is this is post post alien cannabis. 1:04:28.160 --> 1:04:30.640 That's that's the good the alien is. When he had 1:04:30.760 --> 1:04:33.800 he had the battle with no rhymes, cannabis, Oh my god, 1:04:34.040 --> 1:04:36.240 did you see that for this. Come on, man, let's 1:04:36.240 --> 1:04:38.480 not that's my man. I love him, I know, I know, 1:04:38.560 --> 1:04:41.480 but I'm just saying, but he did this before. It 1:04:41.520 --> 1:04:43.360 was before that. It was before. It was a while back. 1:04:43.400 --> 1:04:45.280 It was a while back. It has to be before that. 1:04:45.840 --> 1:04:49.200 So cannabis actually the writers wrong. I forgot all about it. 1:04:49.200 --> 1:04:51.200 This just brought it back to my testa. Man. I 1:04:51.240 --> 1:04:57.200 wanted to forget it. Keno got un. I'm saying out 1:04:57.200 --> 1:05:00.439 to cannabis to take cannabis, want to take in a way. 1:05:00.600 --> 1:05:04.720 But Royce did get asked to right as around one day. 1:05:03.600 --> 1:05:06.520 I'm just saying that that's it. That's one time. That's 1:05:07.880 --> 1:05:14.520 just kind of crazy. Bro. Now, slaughter House, you and 1:05:14.680 --> 1:05:22.200 Joey have this little quarrel. How does joe I mean, uh, 1:05:22.600 --> 1:05:25.720 we don't understand the song, but and then we understand 1:05:25.720 --> 1:05:27.920 that the name of the song was actually called slaughter 1:05:28.600 --> 1:05:30.480 How do y'all take it serious? From there? How do 1:05:30.560 --> 1:05:34.640 y'all say all? You know what? It went so fast, bro, 1:05:34.960 --> 1:05:38.840 we um as soon as the reaction happened to the 1:05:38.880 --> 1:05:42.840 song that was back, I was just starting to become 1:05:42.880 --> 1:05:45.640 a little bit in that savvy. Joe was already in 1:05:45.680 --> 1:05:49.560 that savvy from from the gate. He had a really 1:05:49.600 --> 1:05:53.040 really really good understanding how to market things via the Internet, 1:05:53.680 --> 1:05:57.280 and just he was he had a good day, he 1:05:57.320 --> 1:05:59.960 had a good gage, just when things were special verses, 1:06:00.000 --> 1:06:02.200 when they were just regular verses and it didn't matter 1:06:02.280 --> 1:06:07.240 at all. So he hit me back with Keeno on 1:06:07.240 --> 1:06:09.880 the three way again. So he says, he says, yo, 1:06:10.040 --> 1:06:12.200 he said, he said, you see that. You see the reaction, right, 1:06:12.240 --> 1:06:13.480 And I was like, I kind of seen it a 1:06:13.520 --> 1:06:15.880 little bit. He was like, yeah, man, we gotta do 1:06:15.920 --> 1:06:18.040 more ship, We got to do more stuff. I was like, 1:06:18.080 --> 1:06:21.320 all right, man, I'm cool. I'm cool with that. He 1:06:21.400 --> 1:06:23.760 was like I told him. I was like me and 1:06:23.760 --> 1:06:25.439 you should me and you should do some more ship, 1:06:25.520 --> 1:06:28.320 like we should do an album or something. And Keno 1:06:28.480 --> 1:06:31.600 was like, all, y'all nigga should do an album. Y'all 1:06:31.600 --> 1:06:37.040 all should do it. He's saying the house. So I 1:06:37.120 --> 1:06:39.960 was like, I was like, now, at that time, I'm 1:06:39.960 --> 1:06:42.240 gonna go even deeper. I forgot about this. Yeah, I 1:06:42.280 --> 1:06:45.720 was a drunk. So at that time I heard of 1:06:45.800 --> 1:06:48.600 Joe l Ortiz and I was aware that he was 1:06:48.640 --> 1:06:52.960 a monster, right crooked. I was aware that he was 1:06:53.000 --> 1:06:56.200 a monster Crooked I didn't really like because I asked 1:06:56.200 --> 1:06:58.160 that negg to do a song and he told me, yeah, 1:06:58.280 --> 1:06:59.960 he never did it. So I took that ship first. 1:07:01.280 --> 1:07:03.880 I mean, yeah, that's how I used to be. That's 1:07:03.880 --> 1:07:05.640 how I used to be. I used to take everything personal, 1:07:08.280 --> 1:07:10.960 all right, all right, so um and Crook that is 1:07:11.000 --> 1:07:14.200 coming off of death Row. Yeah now he was yeah, 1:07:14.280 --> 1:07:17.360 yeah it was it was was he still yeah, it 1:07:17.440 --> 1:07:20.080 was kind of okay. Yeah. So um, I was like, 1:07:20.080 --> 1:07:22.400 all right, man, whatever we could do that. So we 1:07:22.440 --> 1:07:24.920 started every time I would go to New York. She 1:07:24.960 --> 1:07:27.360 basically wasn't feeling that idea. No, I was not that 1:07:27.440 --> 1:07:31.680 I wasn't feeling it just wasn't like now I was. 1:07:31.960 --> 1:07:33.920 I was in to do whatever. I was in to 1:07:34.000 --> 1:07:37.960 do whatever. But my first impulse, my first instinct was 1:07:38.000 --> 1:07:40.520 for me and Joe to do more ship. So when 1:07:40.640 --> 1:07:42.760 when it when it came, like, when the idea came, 1:07:42.760 --> 1:07:45.760 now you should stay working with all of them, yeah, 1:07:45.800 --> 1:07:47.560 just do it do it like that, like okay, So 1:07:47.600 --> 1:07:49.240 I was like cool. I was cool with that idea too, 1:07:49.960 --> 1:07:51.320 but I just knew I had to kind of like 1:07:51.400 --> 1:07:53.840 get to know dudes and ship like that. So what 1:07:53.840 --> 1:07:56.280 we did was we ran an idea by everybody, and 1:07:56.320 --> 1:07:58.800 everybody was with it. So we were just all whenever 1:07:59.400 --> 1:08:01.120 we were playing times to go to New York and 1:08:01.120 --> 1:08:04.280 then we would meet up at Joe's crib talk about 1:08:04.440 --> 1:08:06.680 forming a group on camera and ship like that and 1:08:07.000 --> 1:08:09.920 let the internet kind of follow ship as it manifested 1:08:09.920 --> 1:08:13.360 itself organically into whatever it was gonna be, you know. 1:08:13.480 --> 1:08:15.400 So and then it was like, in the meantime, we'll 1:08:15.640 --> 1:08:18.080 we'll continue to do music together. So the next song 1:08:18.160 --> 1:08:22.720 we did was a song called Onslaught, And that's when 1:08:22.760 --> 1:08:25.880 we realized that, you know, like, because I was at 1:08:25.880 --> 1:08:27.840 the very beginning when we all of us felt like 1:08:27.880 --> 1:08:29.559 we want to each of us felt like we want 1:08:29.560 --> 1:08:31.639 to have the best verse on every song. So that's 1:08:31.680 --> 1:08:36.280 when we got a dose motherfucking Crooked Eye. He came 1:08:36.280 --> 1:08:40.240 in late, heard our verses, laid his ship, and I 1:08:40.320 --> 1:08:42.280 was just like, all right, man, well if he had 1:08:42.320 --> 1:08:45.680 the best version over, you know what I'm saying. So, 1:08:46.640 --> 1:08:49.080 I mean it just started working like that. So before 1:08:49.120 --> 1:08:52.320 we even did the album, we was already doing the 1:08:52.400 --> 1:08:55.360 Rock the Bells tour. We was already touring together as 1:08:55.400 --> 1:08:59.960 a group. So I had heard that um I had 1:09:00.040 --> 1:09:03.280 read obviously, I forget what your magazine that it was like, 1:09:03.880 --> 1:09:11.479 uh uh, Slaughterhouse was Eminem's version of the Firm, Like 1:09:11.520 --> 1:09:13.759 I forget what. Yeah, but keep in mind they were 1:09:13.880 --> 1:09:18.320 successful independently before I'm assuming before m even thought about 1:09:18.360 --> 1:09:21.680 sign firm. Yeah, as soon as um, as soon as 1:09:21.680 --> 1:09:23.200 we put the album out on EAT one. In the 1:09:23.200 --> 1:09:28.559 first album I thought the first album was on Yeah, 1:09:28.640 --> 1:09:32.320 that's the second second they were touring. I remember, y'all. Yeah, 1:09:32.360 --> 1:09:34.120 I saw like a lot of stuff on the internet 1:09:34.160 --> 1:09:38.240 that y'all, it was really successful independently. Yeah, we pretty much. Um, 1:09:38.280 --> 1:09:41.439 we found the sailing, We found our sailing independently. Yeah, 1:09:41.560 --> 1:09:44.599 I'm told with Tech nine, right, we put the shout 1:09:44.600 --> 1:09:47.160 out the Tech nine that's my guy. We put the 1:09:47.160 --> 1:09:50.240 album out on EAT one, and there's a number one 1:09:50.280 --> 1:09:52.360 independent album in the country and makes a noise of 1:09:52.400 --> 1:09:58.240 that guy, Darren. So when we did that, when we 1:09:58.280 --> 1:10:00.760 did that, that got the attention to Shape, That got 1:10:00.760 --> 1:10:04.760 the attention of all the major labels. And that he 1:10:04.840 --> 1:10:08.000 was already like, no, friends with the people from Shady 1:10:08.000 --> 1:10:12.600 he was friends with them. No, not really, And just 1:10:12.960 --> 1:10:14.960 sit backtrack a little bit. Why hadn't you had a 1:10:15.000 --> 1:10:18.679 project on Shady. I mean we talked about it because 1:10:18.680 --> 1:10:20.960 me and Marshall stopped talking. So that was the reason 1:10:20.960 --> 1:10:25.960 why it was gonna happen. If that hadn't happened, Oh well, yeah, 1:10:26.120 --> 1:10:30.720 I think so, because uh he he established that company 1:10:31.000 --> 1:10:32.800 a little bit after I saw him. You remember, like 1:10:32.840 --> 1:10:36.160 I got a deal right after him. It was like yeah, 1:10:36.160 --> 1:10:37.680 and I saw good Man said I'm used to it, 1:10:38.120 --> 1:10:40.360 so we we um he got a deal, he got 1:10:40.360 --> 1:10:42.479 his deal. I started working with him, and I immediately 1:10:42.520 --> 1:10:52.599 signed this deal with Tommy Boy. Seeing me, they're saying, 1:10:52.600 --> 1:10:55.559 I'm sorry when I got When I got to deal 1:10:55.640 --> 1:10:59.519 with Tommy Boy, I never had a problem getting a 1:10:59.560 --> 1:11:01.519 deal again. After that, I went right to Sony. After 1:11:01.600 --> 1:11:03.200 time By dropped me, I went to Sony and got 1:11:03.240 --> 1:11:05.400 another million dollars, you know what I'm saying. So I 1:11:05.560 --> 1:11:08.479 did that. By that time, Shady was already established, but 1:11:08.560 --> 1:11:10.559 I never was in a position where it was like, yeah, 1:11:10.560 --> 1:11:13.400 I need a record deal. He executive produced my album 1:11:13.439 --> 1:11:15.240 on Sony, so he was always a part of it, 1:11:16.040 --> 1:11:18.000 but we just never did it on his on his label. 1:11:18.320 --> 1:11:22.400 So after we stopped talking, ship, so many years went by, 1:11:22.520 --> 1:11:24.360 so much happened in his life, so much happened in 1:11:24.400 --> 1:11:27.439 my life. So when we formed slaughter House, that when 1:11:27.479 --> 1:11:30.200 we signed the deal with Shady with slaughter House, that 1:11:30.280 --> 1:11:34.200 was me and M's first time actually sitting down like 1:11:34.400 --> 1:11:36.479 in this manner. We talked on the phone a couple 1:11:36.479 --> 1:11:38.080 of times, but just the way we're sitting and talking 1:11:38.160 --> 1:11:41.200 now and just reflecting as men. It was after the 1:11:41.240 --> 1:11:44.519 slaughter House deal. Yeah, but how many other niggas was hey, 1:11:44.560 --> 1:11:47.160 and let's just keep it real, Hayden, Like who like, 1:11:47.280 --> 1:11:49.720 you know, because all of them niggas know that you know, 1:11:49.960 --> 1:11:55.080 ever House, Like I mean, like I mean this is 1:11:56.240 --> 1:11:58.240 because I know a lot of niggs were like, damn, 1:11:59.040 --> 1:12:03.040 like you noticed, we don't bro you know what? Many 1:12:03.360 --> 1:12:07.320 everybody was just so happy, just so happy to be. Yeah. 1:12:07.360 --> 1:12:09.280 It was kind of like we was in our We 1:12:09.439 --> 1:12:11.439 was in this in this situation in our lives where 1:12:11.479 --> 1:12:14.559 it was like Motherfucker's had wrote us off years ago, 1:12:14.880 --> 1:12:16.639 you know, So it was like it was like another 1:12:16.680 --> 1:12:20.000 shot at this ship on a major scale, you know 1:12:20.000 --> 1:12:22.719 what I mean. So everybody was just happy to everything 1:12:22.800 --> 1:12:25.559 we went through individually to form this group out of nowhere. 1:12:25.640 --> 1:12:27.880 We didn't plan it. It just happened. And now we're 1:12:27.880 --> 1:12:30.000 sitting in the room with this motherfucker who was like 1:12:30.120 --> 1:12:33.000 a megastar. Hey, you know, man, Like you can't really 1:12:33.080 --> 1:12:37.280 gauge how anybody feels their first time sitting around him, 1:12:37.280 --> 1:12:39.519 because whenever I'm around them and I see people meet 1:12:39.600 --> 1:12:44.479 him for the first time, they're never theirselves. People weirdest 1:12:44.479 --> 1:12:47.920 funk around him, man. So it's like it's all yeah, man, 1:12:47.960 --> 1:12:51.519 it's like it's crazy to see some Beatles, you know 1:12:52.360 --> 1:12:54.640 that type of yeah. So it was just, you know, 1:12:55.240 --> 1:12:58.519 definitely no, definitely, no hate. Everybody was just everybody was happy. Man. 1:12:58.800 --> 1:13:04.000 So now Joe Biden again, he has a show. His 1:13:04.120 --> 1:13:08.240 show is lit. He can choose to use his platform 1:13:09.160 --> 1:13:14.680 in a way where if his opinion matters, and his 1:13:14.800 --> 1:13:18.040 opinion because swayed people a certain way, he shouldn't, but 1:13:18.200 --> 1:13:26.200 he doesn't. Eminem drops this album, Joe goes on, and 1:13:26.400 --> 1:13:30.960 Joe says, I don't remember. I don't want to word 1:13:31.040 --> 1:13:34.160 for word his words, so I don't remember. But it basically, 1:13:34.439 --> 1:13:37.040 in power phrasing, he's saying this album is not m 1:13:38.240 --> 1:13:42.200 it's not good. Everyone is mad. If he sent goes on, 1:13:43.240 --> 1:13:45.519 he threatens him, say he's gonna get an ask whipping, 1:13:46.439 --> 1:13:49.080 and you as a sort of house brother, you as 1:13:49.120 --> 1:13:52.160 a brother to Eminem, you as a friend of Eminem 1:13:52.560 --> 1:13:55.200 and as a friend of Joey. Where do you stand 1:13:55.320 --> 1:13:57.920 in that? How do you feel at that very moment? 1:13:59.600 --> 1:14:01.800 I mean told him how I felt. I'm kind of 1:14:01.880 --> 1:14:05.479 like man told I told Joey how I felt about it? 1:14:05.560 --> 1:14:08.960 You know, like has one second? Let me interrupt for 1:14:09.000 --> 1:14:12.800 a quick Drink Champs message. Did you know that every 1:14:12.880 --> 1:14:15.080 single episode of Drink Champs and I'm talking to you, 1:14:15.200 --> 1:14:18.880 Drink Champs Army, every single episode of Drink Champs is 1:14:18.960 --> 1:14:21.960 now on Spotify. 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Follow us on Spotify 1:14:58.200 --> 1:15:02.720 as well. But check out Drink Champs the podcast on Spotify. 1:15:03.200 --> 1:15:07.160 They're streaming it right now, so don't wait. Michael being Bone, 1:15:09.520 --> 1:15:11.120 I'm at a point man where I don't really like 1:15:11.280 --> 1:15:13.000 talking about it, and we're gonna talk about it. But 1:15:13.479 --> 1:15:16.800 I'm just gonna tell you why before. Every time I 1:15:16.840 --> 1:15:19.559 say something about it, man, it's like this, the topic 1:15:19.680 --> 1:15:23.960 excelf itself grows new legs again. Like Joey got this 1:15:24.080 --> 1:15:28.759 thing man, where he can't stop. He can't stop mentioning 1:15:28.880 --> 1:15:32.479 things for views, even at the expense of like how 1:15:32.640 --> 1:15:34.880 his friends feel and ship like that, Like he caught 1:15:34.960 --> 1:15:37.720 up in his world right now. So it's like, that's 1:15:37.720 --> 1:15:40.240 not really my character, it's not my personality. It's like 1:15:41.120 --> 1:15:43.439 to keep talking about something that's not even really it's 1:15:43.479 --> 1:15:46.040 not important to him. He hasn't talked about it, you 1:15:46.080 --> 1:15:48.320 know what I'm saying. Like Joe went on there and 1:15:48.360 --> 1:15:51.320 he said something about the song. It's a song, Um 1:15:51.680 --> 1:15:54.960 that input out. Joe said a bunch of badshit about 1:15:54.960 --> 1:15:57.280 the song. I felt like Joe went a little too hard, 1:15:58.439 --> 1:16:01.000 especially especially knowing you have a deal with this. Yeah, 1:16:01.000 --> 1:16:03.320 I mean, I feel like I feel like he entitled 1:16:03.320 --> 1:16:05.360 to his opinion. You know, he's entitled to his opinion. 1:16:06.040 --> 1:16:09.760 It's very difficult to talk about it and talk about 1:16:09.800 --> 1:16:12.000 the execution of it without it looking like you're trying 1:16:12.040 --> 1:16:14.680 to tell him he can't have his opinion, you know 1:16:14.720 --> 1:16:17.519 what I'm saying. So it's like I'm always real careful 1:16:17.600 --> 1:16:20.479 with what I um, what I say, and what I 1:16:20.560 --> 1:16:22.840 don't say in regards to him, you know what I mean, 1:16:22.920 --> 1:16:26.600 Because this is like the sting looming now, where's like 1:16:26.680 --> 1:16:28.920 every time I say something, everybody is like looking at 1:16:29.000 --> 1:16:32.080 me like I'm just rights again, keeping keeping for the 1:16:32.120 --> 1:16:35.519 white boy, like being being too loyal that they're trying 1:16:35.560 --> 1:16:39.840 to say. Yeah. But the thing about it is when 1:16:39.960 --> 1:16:42.880 we have a sense of history, we have to sort 1:16:42.920 --> 1:16:47.479 of respect that history. Meaning it's like, and I'm gonna 1:16:47.479 --> 1:16:49.960 say this, and I'm probably sure he's gonna be mad 1:16:50.040 --> 1:16:52.880 for saying me saying this, but trag is my man, 1:16:53.120 --> 1:16:59.439 right and trash. You know, he recently called me about 1:16:59.520 --> 1:17:03.800 something said and I immediately said sorry because I didn't 1:17:03.800 --> 1:17:05.840 mean to say what I said what it got us 1:17:05.920 --> 1:17:09.200 or what I said and so immediately I said sorry, 1:17:09.240 --> 1:17:12.160 And I think he didn't even was expecting that. I 1:17:12.240 --> 1:17:14.360 think he was just like, oh ship what like he 1:17:14.439 --> 1:17:16.400 wanted me to be the old normy where I was 1:17:16.479 --> 1:17:19.840 like and I was so so what I'm what I'm 1:17:19.840 --> 1:17:27.519 trying to say is you, on one hand, jokes should 1:17:27.560 --> 1:17:30.599 have he should have his opinion. But on the second hand, 1:17:30.760 --> 1:17:33.759 it's a it's a it's a sort, it's a sign 1:17:33.880 --> 1:17:38.160 of disloyalty. It's a sign because at the end of 1:17:38.200 --> 1:17:41.880 the day. And if I'm just use you for example, 1:17:41.920 --> 1:17:44.320 because you just came from the bathroom, right, if and 1:17:44.439 --> 1:17:51.080 you open up a pizza shop, right, your piece is hard, right, 1:17:51.120 --> 1:17:56.719 I appreciate what I'm just saying. Please just use PiZZ Sorry, 1:17:57.280 --> 1:18:00.280 I'm still gonna over there on Wednesdays because my brother, 1:18:00.400 --> 1:18:03.240 because I'm your brother, and I'm gonna just open up, 1:18:03.760 --> 1:18:05.600 like if you ever asked me, you know, how do 1:18:05.680 --> 1:18:08.680 you like the pizza, then I'm gonna tell you, not 1:18:08.760 --> 1:18:12.400 in front of people though, from the public, and no, no, no, 1:18:12.439 --> 1:18:15.840 if it's a camera around, But guess what, as a brother, 1:18:16.640 --> 1:18:18.280 I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna still go to a 1:18:18.320 --> 1:18:23.040 piece of shop on Wednesdays. That's just it was one 1:18:23.080 --> 1:18:25.640 of those things where it was like, Okay, when I 1:18:25.880 --> 1:18:30.360 when I first seen it, loyalty wasn't really what popped 1:18:30.400 --> 1:18:33.120 into my head. It was more like a respect respect thing, 1:18:33.360 --> 1:18:37.400 you know what I mean, respecting loyal brother. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:18:37.520 --> 1:18:41.400 so um than just you know, the verbis has been 1:18:41.479 --> 1:18:45.559 like the verbiage that's been used. It's been sparkling all 1:18:45.640 --> 1:18:49.639 kinds of different different conversations and opening up all kinds 1:18:49.640 --> 1:18:51.680 of different new narratives and ship like that. It's just 1:18:51.840 --> 1:18:54.519 been like it's like a it's like a playground for 1:18:54.640 --> 1:18:57.000 like semantics and you know what I'm saying, like twisting 1:18:57.040 --> 1:18:59.599 words around and ship like that. But the very rawest 1:18:59.680 --> 1:19:03.360 way look at it, it's just you use the wrong 1:19:03.479 --> 1:19:06.920 words talking about somebody. You don't have to be loyal, 1:19:07.560 --> 1:19:11.240 just be respectful, not just with Marshall, with anybody, you 1:19:11.320 --> 1:19:13.360 know what I mean. Like there's a difference in me 1:19:13.520 --> 1:19:17.519 saying I'm not feeling that than me saying that ship 1:19:17.600 --> 1:19:19.719 trash throw it in rice, you know what I'm saying. 1:19:19.760 --> 1:19:22.439 It's like, so when I looked at that, it wasn't 1:19:22.479 --> 1:19:24.560 you know, Marsha was mad. It was ill because I 1:19:24.600 --> 1:19:26.519 didn't really even talk to him about it like that. 1:19:26.840 --> 1:19:29.320 Not that big of a deal, But it's just kind 1:19:29.320 --> 1:19:32.880 of unfortunate to see somebody that you cool with to 1:19:33.040 --> 1:19:35.439 do that kind of ship at this juncture in our careers, 1:19:35.680 --> 1:19:37.960 you know what I'm saying. It's just like, damn, it's 1:19:38.000 --> 1:19:40.840 like you're just throwing relationships away for no reason, you 1:19:40.880 --> 1:19:42.720 know what I'm saying. So it's just like, it's just 1:19:42.800 --> 1:19:45.200 from where I was sitting, how I felt it just 1:19:45.280 --> 1:19:47.400 so happened. It Right after it happened, I go on 1:19:47.520 --> 1:19:50.439 this press run and it's it's getting brought up to 1:19:50.520 --> 1:19:52.920 me and I'm mentioning it, and I guess I'm not 1:19:53.040 --> 1:19:54.880 being as as careful as I could have been with 1:19:55.240 --> 1:19:57.040 the words I'm choosing, you know what I'm saying. So 1:19:57.560 --> 1:20:00.880 that's why it keeps turning into the conversation over and 1:20:00.960 --> 1:20:02.320 over again. But at the end of the day, it's 1:20:02.360 --> 1:20:04.559 not that big of a deal. It's just he gave 1:20:04.680 --> 1:20:07.360 his opinion, he did it his way, it got received 1:20:07.400 --> 1:20:09.280 a certain way. I've seen it. I picked up on it. 1:20:09.640 --> 1:20:11.240 I told him how I felt about it, and that 1:20:11.360 --> 1:20:16.120 was really it. It wasn't really Yeah, we'll see, that's bizarre. 1:20:16.320 --> 1:20:19.080 You know, it's a it's a personal thing. We don't 1:20:19.160 --> 1:20:22.759 like niggas. Don't like niggas talking like that about their friends. 1:20:23.000 --> 1:20:24.880 I'm the same way about all my friends or even 1:20:24.920 --> 1:20:27.080 when Joe, you know, like that's my that's my nigga. 1:20:27.160 --> 1:20:30.120 So it's like when he did the battle, um, when 1:20:30.280 --> 1:20:32.360 when he did my battle, the shady battle, the shady 1:20:32.360 --> 1:20:34.960 battle with hollow the dun huh shop. I looked the 1:20:35.000 --> 1:20:37.960 world right and they face and Ebro asked me in 1:20:38.040 --> 1:20:41.760 front of the whole world, who just won that. I 1:20:41.920 --> 1:20:44.200 was like, ship Joe did. Now, I'm not gonna lie 1:20:44.280 --> 1:20:52.360 you out of your mind. You I'm gonna tell you 1:20:52.400 --> 1:20:56.600 what it wasn't it was. It wasn't a soul that 1:20:56.720 --> 1:20:59.320 could get me to say that my nigga just lost it. 1:21:00.160 --> 1:21:02.519 All that's because you were the lawyer said that's it. 1:21:02.680 --> 1:21:04.760 That's all I'm saying. So it's like, pardon me for 1:21:04.840 --> 1:21:06.439 looking at it like that. It's just the type of 1:21:06.479 --> 1:21:08.000 person that I am. But don't mean I'm right. It 1:21:08.120 --> 1:21:09.599 just mean that's how I feel. You know what I'm saying. 1:21:09.640 --> 1:21:14.000 Nothing's gonna sway my judgment from that, So right, I 1:21:14.160 --> 1:21:16.720 respect that man. That's grown man talk. You know what 1:21:16.760 --> 1:21:20.000 I'm saying. And you know, as a journalist, you know, 1:21:20.080 --> 1:21:22.960 I had to look at and and um, you know, 1:21:23.320 --> 1:21:26.559 thinking what Joe but Come was coming from. But um, 1:21:26.840 --> 1:21:28.599 you know, and I respect to shut out of him, 1:21:28.640 --> 1:21:30.600 you know what I mean. But sometimes it's just like, 1:21:31.560 --> 1:21:33.880 you know, my opinion with my family is just gonna 1:21:34.040 --> 1:21:36.680 be my opinion with my family. And and that's just 1:21:36.880 --> 1:21:39.519 basically it, you know what I mean. I want to 1:21:39.560 --> 1:21:43.120 respect him. I understand what he does. I actually acknowledge 1:21:43.200 --> 1:21:45.280 what he does. And I actually think what he do 1:21:45.479 --> 1:21:48.240 is is dope and his world, you know what I'm saying, 1:21:48.240 --> 1:21:51.360 He's on his world and when we get the same 1:21:51.880 --> 1:21:54.880 and but you know, when it comes to family, I 1:21:54.920 --> 1:21:57.960 would rather keep family business within family. Like there's a 1:21:57.960 --> 1:21:59.400 whole bunch of ship I can tell you about the 1:21:59.479 --> 1:22:05.120 poem right down. I'm gonna wait until next week. The 1:22:05.160 --> 1:22:07.120 first time I seen that's between me and then that's 1:22:07.160 --> 1:22:09.559 my brother. I love him, and that's that's it's gonna ride. 1:22:09.640 --> 1:22:11.120 And he canna tell you a bunch of ship about me, 1:22:11.200 --> 1:22:13.240 And that's great. The first time I saying Capone, you know, 1:22:13.280 --> 1:22:16.639 I never met him. I never met Capone. The first 1:22:16.680 --> 1:22:19.160 time I seen him was here in Miami, way back 1:22:19.160 --> 1:22:20.799 in the day when they used to rent the scooters 1:22:20.840 --> 1:22:24.040 when we came here. I've seen him, bro. He was 1:22:24.400 --> 1:22:28.360 wow wilding out on the police, wilding out on the police, 1:22:28.400 --> 1:22:30.920 and he got arrested. Goddamn it, that's like the middle 1:22:33.400 --> 1:22:38.519 then you can rest was he was wilding out on 1:22:38.600 --> 1:22:41.519 the pet arrested. And I'm gonna tell you something. The 1:22:41.560 --> 1:22:44.840 police are scared of ship. They're scared of ship. Remember 1:22:45.000 --> 1:22:49.000 that he was crazy. Remember that you here with me 1:22:49.080 --> 1:22:52.760 when that when Capone was down here wilder, They're gonna 1:22:52.760 --> 1:22:57.439 shoot you out here, right. That's let's sake some looise 1:22:57.479 --> 1:23:02.479 for those days when you could talk about I don't 1:23:02.479 --> 1:23:09.720 know that and be black. But nowadays, drosprepable is not 1:23:10.400 --> 1:23:14.760 happening that sweet Let's be quiet and know that's real, man, 1:23:14.840 --> 1:23:19.360 because Ferguson how you feel about things like that, man, U, 1:23:19.520 --> 1:23:21.400 you know, being a black man, like you know, I'm 1:23:21.479 --> 1:23:23.400 being honest with you. I said this on the podcast 1:23:23.640 --> 1:23:27.840 a couple of times. Um. One time I just left 1:23:27.880 --> 1:23:29.840 my house and I had it to the store. My 1:23:29.920 --> 1:23:32.040 wife was like, I'll drive You's like all right, cool. 1:23:32.360 --> 1:23:35.040 I jumped in the drain of my wife. My wife 1:23:35.080 --> 1:23:39.360 put on a hoodie, she had no makeup, and she 1:23:40.080 --> 1:23:43.640 sincerely just drove to the store on a hoodie. I 1:23:43.760 --> 1:23:46.639 can't do that as a black man. As a black man, 1:23:47.479 --> 1:23:57.080 if I get in a car, I got the Yeah. Like, 1:23:57.200 --> 1:23:59.240 I literally looked at my wife. I hated on my 1:23:59.439 --> 1:24:02.439 wife for twelve seconds. Yeah, I was like, I kind 1:24:02.439 --> 1:24:06.120 of hate you. You know, she's a Latina's you know, 1:24:06.280 --> 1:24:10.840 she's Cubans Puerto Rican and the cops don't people funk 1:24:10.880 --> 1:24:15.439 about her having a hoodie on, and that ship fucked 1:24:15.520 --> 1:24:18.800 me up. I mean, it's it's it's it's disheartening, man, 1:24:18.960 --> 1:24:21.560 it's disheartening. It's it's just and it's it's not just 1:24:21.720 --> 1:24:23.880 now happening, man. Like if you think back, if you 1:24:24.000 --> 1:24:26.320 think back then when Iced team made cop Killer, because 1:24:26.720 --> 1:24:29.479 these guys from these errors, man, they put their lives 1:24:29.520 --> 1:24:31.680 on the line, like Iced Tea took the cops to 1:24:31.720 --> 1:24:34.960 war for us so we can have more freedom in 1:24:35.000 --> 1:24:41.639 our speech. Yeah, so cop Killer, cop Killer came from 1:24:42.240 --> 1:24:45.320 cops killing black kids, you know what I mean. So 1:24:45.520 --> 1:24:47.800 this is something that always was going on. We just 1:24:47.840 --> 1:24:50.200 got the internet, so we were privy to the information 1:24:50.320 --> 1:24:53.599 faster and you can't that you can't sneak that ship 1:24:53.680 --> 1:24:55.800 past us. We see more of it. I mean, it's 1:24:55.800 --> 1:25:01.920 happening more, but it's always fucking existing, bro always. My 1:25:02.000 --> 1:25:04.320 big brother, My big brother just got arrested. Um, he 1:25:04.400 --> 1:25:06.080 had a gun on him. He was at the liquor store. 1:25:06.200 --> 1:25:08.880 The first thing I thought of was like, shoot, that 1:25:08.920 --> 1:25:11.400 could have been way worse. He could have died because 1:25:11.400 --> 1:25:13.479 it was like, you know, they just they seen him 1:25:13.479 --> 1:25:17.280 walking to the door and they just ran down on him, 1:25:17.920 --> 1:25:19.560 grabbed him up. Said he looked like he had a 1:25:19.600 --> 1:25:21.000 pistol on him. Grab him up and he had a 1:25:21.040 --> 1:25:22.720 pistol on him. What if he to try to run? 1:25:23.360 --> 1:25:25.599 The shot him, you know what I mean? So it's 1:25:26.160 --> 1:25:29.560 God bless. Now, being from Michigan, I would like you 1:25:29.760 --> 1:25:36.280 to describe the Flint what a crisis and what because 1:25:36.520 --> 1:25:38.920 a lot of people think that this is still unresolved. 1:25:39.080 --> 1:25:41.160 It's still unresolved. A lot of people think this is 1:25:41.280 --> 1:25:44.080 actually like an Instagram thing. A lot of people don't 1:25:44.120 --> 1:25:46.280 think this is real. A lot of people think that 1:25:46.520 --> 1:25:49.439 this is like color correction. This is um what's it 1:25:49.560 --> 1:25:55.280 called photo shop? Can you describe or what's what's going on? 1:25:55.360 --> 1:25:58.600 Off there to your nomics. You want me to describe it, 1:25:59.200 --> 1:26:00.880 like you want me to run down, like what's going 1:26:00.920 --> 1:26:03.920 on or what where they are with it? Is they're 1:26:03.920 --> 1:26:06.599 getting better? You know, it's not it's it's it's definitely 1:26:06.680 --> 1:26:09.479 not getting better. It's it's definitely a it's a corrupt 1:26:09.880 --> 1:26:13.160 it's a corruption situation. It's a political thing. Yeah, of course, 1:26:13.320 --> 1:26:15.800 of course, just like with anything else. And I don't 1:26:15.840 --> 1:26:18.240 really know what the funk we could do to rectify it. 1:26:18.280 --> 1:26:20.640 I know a lot of people donated money. I'm not 1:26:20.800 --> 1:26:23.400 so sure where the money went, you know what I mean, Like, 1:26:23.520 --> 1:26:25.439 I don't I don't know where they are with fixing it. 1:26:25.840 --> 1:26:27.599 I don't know, man, Like the world is so fucked 1:26:27.640 --> 1:26:29.920 up and there's so much stuff happening. It's kind of 1:26:30.000 --> 1:26:33.960 hard to keep up with everything that's sucked up, you know, 1:26:34.160 --> 1:26:36.960 Like Detroit is just coming we're just coming back from bankruptcy. Man, 1:26:37.080 --> 1:26:40.360 it's a city. There's so much going on. There's so 1:26:40.479 --> 1:26:42.760 much going on in our story. But I remember I 1:26:42.800 --> 1:26:45.680 went to Detroit one night and I went to like 1:26:45.800 --> 1:26:49.000 a casino and it was lit. And then I drove 1:26:49.040 --> 1:26:52.599 off the casino for six blocks there was no lights. 1:26:54.200 --> 1:26:57.280 Six blocks straight. I was like, oh, I thought it 1:26:57.840 --> 1:27:00.160 was lined up. Ever, I was like, oh, they on it, 1:27:00.240 --> 1:27:05.000 get us like somebody's coming from somewhere and six and 1:27:05.000 --> 1:27:07.840 then and then it looked back up again, and I 1:27:08.000 --> 1:27:10.840 was like, this is amazing. But no one never put 1:27:10.920 --> 1:27:13.519 that on the news back then. No one never, like, 1:27:13.640 --> 1:27:16.360 because they don't want to expose the whole They called 1:27:16.439 --> 1:27:19.439 motor City for a reason. The whole industry was destroyed 1:27:19.479 --> 1:27:20.720 in that area, and they don't want to put that 1:27:20.800 --> 1:27:22.720 on the news and destroys the old country. You know, 1:27:22.800 --> 1:27:25.120 we we own a resurgence right now. You know, usually 1:27:25.160 --> 1:27:28.200 when things get that bad, only good ship can happen 1:27:28.320 --> 1:27:30.400 after that. That's right. So that's right. We got a 1:27:30.439 --> 1:27:32.439 lot of we got a lot of artists doing their thing, 1:27:32.560 --> 1:27:35.160 a lot of artists deals, a lot of artists getting recognition. 1:27:35.439 --> 1:27:38.680 Big big up, big up, my brochean. It's like, you know, 1:27:38.760 --> 1:27:41.240 and it's it's a lot the areas are improving, you 1:27:41.320 --> 1:27:42.800 know what I mean, Like it's a good it's a 1:27:42.880 --> 1:27:45.360 good place to buy real estate. You know, it's just 1:27:45.479 --> 1:27:48.200 it's just turning. It's turning back into that beautiful motown 1:27:48.600 --> 1:27:51.360 fielded it used to be. That's in our lineage. Okay, 1:27:51.400 --> 1:27:53.559 so I gotta come more questions before I go, because 1:27:53.560 --> 1:27:55.000 I'll take a bathroom break. I seemed to go a 1:27:55.040 --> 1:28:01.000 bathroom break. It's cheating, um, But this is one of 1:28:01.040 --> 1:28:04.720 the funniest questions I've been wanting to ask forever. Right now, 1:28:04.920 --> 1:28:11.560 I'm not talking status. I'm not talking money. Who's the 1:28:11.680 --> 1:28:18.160 most famous rapper in the world. I say Snoop Dogg 1:28:18.360 --> 1:28:21.320 in the world, in the world. Now, I'm not talking Look, 1:28:21.439 --> 1:28:26.640 jay Z, PAULF and m they're all famous, and but 1:28:26.760 --> 1:28:29.519 that that's all. We're talking money. No, No, you just 1:28:29.600 --> 1:28:40.320 meaning this. You're man, who's the most famous rapper currently? Period? 1:28:40.600 --> 1:28:45.320 Because if you're talking fame, you gotta that's Snoop is 1:28:45.400 --> 1:28:49.559 the most every Snoop is one of Snoop is one 1:28:49.600 --> 1:28:53.360 of the most iconic. For sure. I'm I'm not saying 1:28:53.560 --> 1:28:56.520 like like like business wise. I'm saying you're saying recognizable. 1:28:56.560 --> 1:29:01.360 You're recognizable. It's gotta be Snoop man. Come on, Royce, 1:29:01.400 --> 1:29:06.920 go rode me, Royce, come on, Chris Eminem though you 1:29:06.960 --> 1:29:08.920 think about it, let me think about it. Bro I 1:29:09.000 --> 1:29:13.519 don't think about it. But now it's not gonna be 1:29:14.280 --> 1:29:18.920 not right now, right, I don't think right now now, 1:29:19.160 --> 1:29:22.040 right now, right now in general is now everybody is 1:29:23.280 --> 1:29:28.720 grandmother says something about Snoop doggy Dog's not generational. You 1:29:28.800 --> 1:29:31.799 just mean it's kind of his famous. Everyone knows what snoopid. 1:29:31.800 --> 1:29:37.200 You would be hard pressed if somebody didn't recognize Drake anywhere. No, no, okay, 1:29:38.439 --> 1:29:42.800 I don't agree. I don't know. I don't agree. He's 1:29:42.840 --> 1:29:45.160 still like ten years in the game, so you have 1:29:45.280 --> 1:29:49.720 to have ten years of listening to music. Snoop is yeah, 1:29:49.920 --> 1:29:52.040 of course, of course Stoopid is up there. But I 1:29:52.080 --> 1:29:55.479 don't know why. I say, Eminem Marshall, Marshall, Marshall King, 1:29:57.280 --> 1:30:01.240 but Kanye is still kind of his kind and definitely nothing. 1:30:01.320 --> 1:30:03.920 That's what. No one knows who the fund he is 1:30:03.960 --> 1:30:06.960 in Marshall Marshall can't even he can't even wear like 1:30:07.040 --> 1:30:10.000 a costume and not get recognized. I think all they 1:30:10.040 --> 1:30:11.599 have to see it's like his chain in his nose 1:30:11.640 --> 1:30:13.240 and they know. And I'm telling you from the country's 1:30:13.240 --> 1:30:16.600 I've been to. No but I think I think Snoop 1:30:16.640 --> 1:30:20.280 is a good choice. Though brout there listen his hands 1:30:20.320 --> 1:30:25.760 in is first off, he's probably one of the most 1:30:25.840 --> 1:30:29.719 famous people ever, right, I think he went diamond in Ireland. 1:30:30.479 --> 1:30:33.559 There was something crazy like what I'm saying is even 1:30:33.720 --> 1:30:36.640 him he has a particular crowd. Jay Z has a 1:30:36.720 --> 1:30:42.760 particular crowd. Snoop doesn't. He's like ungentrified. I don't know 1:30:42.840 --> 1:30:45.120 if that's the word. I'm pretty sure we know what 1:30:45.200 --> 1:30:48.679 you mean. Yeah, I still think it's I think Emmin 1:30:48.800 --> 1:30:53.160 and stop actually are I think is this is this 1:30:53.320 --> 1:30:56.440 just limited to two artists because we had this conversation 1:30:56.560 --> 1:30:59.200 partist hip hop, we had this conversation. We had this 1:30:59.280 --> 1:31:01.880 conversation about celebrities period. I want to see what you 1:31:01.960 --> 1:31:03.840 mean these people we were gonna get. That's I mean 1:31:03.840 --> 1:31:08.360 a little different though you're all ready for this Barack Obama. 1:31:08.960 --> 1:31:12.400 It's the most recognizable person, yes, okay, I agree in 1:31:12.479 --> 1:31:16.080 this motherfucker in years. Yes, there is no there is 1:31:16.160 --> 1:31:19.320 nobody that's more recognized. He's the most missed right now. Yeah, 1:31:27.439 --> 1:31:31.160 but I still think Snoop is the most Listen his 1:31:31.360 --> 1:31:38.080 voice too, his voice too, Listen, Sloop. Everyone knows who 1:31:38.160 --> 1:31:41.400 we are. They're like they like even if your grandma's 1:31:41.439 --> 1:31:46.519 corner like Snoopy, Snoop like a cool like Jade, look 1:31:46.600 --> 1:31:50.600 at me jade pop, and they did the best financially, 1:31:51.000 --> 1:31:56.040 you know best financially, but they all got reach still 1:31:56.240 --> 1:32:01.240 level of finances and kind of fell back. Snoop just never. 1:32:01.880 --> 1:32:04.400 Snoop does all kinds of different genres of music and 1:32:04.960 --> 1:32:09.479 he got it. Just drive the gospel album he's killing. 1:32:09.600 --> 1:32:14.240 Just make noise for Snoop the week from Bill Red 1:32:14.400 --> 1:32:18.920 Sloop driving the Gospel out. Drenk Champs alumni, Drink Champs 1:32:18.960 --> 1:32:21.080 and alumni, thank you for being the part of Drink 1:32:21.160 --> 1:32:24.799 Champs early. But um, I just for me, for me personally, 1:32:24.920 --> 1:32:27.439 I think Snoop is the most famous. I think his 1:32:27.520 --> 1:32:29.880 neck and neck him and them. I think I think 1:32:29.920 --> 1:32:34.040 his neck and neck with him and Barack about rappers. Bro, 1:32:34.360 --> 1:32:36.080 you're going to a whole the world, all right, But 1:32:36.280 --> 1:32:38.479 I just say there, but he said, he said in general, 1:32:39.040 --> 1:32:41.800 I'm saying Snoop and Rock is neck and neck. They 1:32:41.840 --> 1:32:44.240 can both go to Hawaii and Snoop by your mom 1:32:44.640 --> 1:32:50.479 before Barack. I'm just throwing it out there. I'm just 1:32:50.640 --> 1:32:54.200 I'm just telling you be I've been with Snoop everywhere 1:32:54.920 --> 1:32:57.320 like I have to, but the only place they don't 1:32:57.360 --> 1:32:59.040 marvel was in l A. Because they're just like I 1:32:59.160 --> 1:33:03.400 think it was. Yeah is that listen listen the other day, right, 1:33:04.680 --> 1:33:08.080 it must be three hundred and sixteen pounds, right, So yeah, 1:33:09.200 --> 1:33:13.360 So I used to place that I moved to a 1:33:13.560 --> 1:33:17.200 jogged every day six six like almost six years. I 1:33:17.320 --> 1:33:20.800 tried to just jogging, right And when I first moved there, 1:33:21.520 --> 1:33:24.639 all these guys they would love to see me. Yo, 1:33:27.240 --> 1:33:33.400 I just jogged in yesterday. The things is likely what 1:33:33.640 --> 1:33:38.240 was this? That? What is? But what I'm trying to 1:33:38.280 --> 1:33:41.840 say is they get tired of everybody. But what I'm 1:33:41.840 --> 1:33:44.960 trying and if you understand what I just said, they 1:33:45.040 --> 1:33:48.760 get used to you. They so I'm nothing to see 1:33:48.800 --> 1:33:57.800 these guys right now, I jogged birthday on you show. 1:33:58.000 --> 1:34:00.679 Once you show them you accessible, that's it it because 1:34:00.720 --> 1:34:03.800 maybe you become you become a person now you that 1:34:04.000 --> 1:34:09.479 hip hop? Yeah, of course you know a after they 1:34:09.560 --> 1:34:12.519 get like after they get used to you, they really 1:34:12.800 --> 1:34:15.519 just like you actually either have to have another hustle, 1:34:15.600 --> 1:34:19.400 another scheme, another oil. They don't they really don't funk 1:34:19.439 --> 1:34:21.920 with you. They like that with the verses, the songs. 1:34:23.520 --> 1:34:25.880 Even when I got a car, like the first car 1:34:25.920 --> 1:34:27.640 I bought, when I started making money again, it was 1:34:27.720 --> 1:34:29.519 like I was driving it and it was like, damn, 1:34:29.560 --> 1:34:32.680 they go Royce that car. Two weeks later it was like, 1:34:32.760 --> 1:34:38.240 I ain't nothing but a cart car, ain't I'm saying. So, 1:34:38.320 --> 1:34:40.599 it's just like you put out a song, they loved 1:34:40.600 --> 1:34:42.880 the song, put you put it out again. It's kind 1:34:42.920 --> 1:34:45.519 of in the same chamber. Then it's like, all right, 1:34:45.600 --> 1:34:48.240 now what else can you do? But that ever bothered 1:34:48.280 --> 1:34:50.840 you about rap? When you where after they get used 1:34:50.880 --> 1:34:55.760 to you, you're not really as appreciated because even whole 1:34:56.000 --> 1:34:58.759 like hold four for fourth, it was as a dope album, 1:34:59.000 --> 1:35:00.680 but they gave one week go than a half a 1:35:00.720 --> 1:35:03.120 week or two. They moved on this. This is the 1:35:03.200 --> 1:35:05.880 generation we live and it's the disposable. But I don't 1:35:05.880 --> 1:35:07.760 think it exclusive to hip hop right now. I think 1:35:07.800 --> 1:35:13.760 that's yeah, yeah, I'm just saying that. Yeah, they don't 1:35:13.760 --> 1:35:15.519 bother me at all, you know what I mean? Like, 1:35:15.600 --> 1:35:19.120 if anything, it gives you a better understanding of what 1:35:19.240 --> 1:35:21.640 you're dealing with, and you you know you can you 1:35:21.920 --> 1:35:25.040 learned man that it's not really it's much about you 1:35:25.160 --> 1:35:28.080 what you think it is as artists, it's more about 1:35:29.360 --> 1:35:32.640 the service you could provide. I would say, you know, 1:35:33.200 --> 1:35:34.679 but you know you know, I don't think what we're 1:35:34.720 --> 1:35:38.320 realizing that's happening right now. We could literally put out 1:35:38.479 --> 1:35:42.519 something wait a second, and put it out again. Yeah, 1:35:42.640 --> 1:35:44.920 that's the crazy motherfucker's new. People will be like, oh, 1:35:45.000 --> 1:35:46.519 this is a new ship that just came out. Now 1:35:46.560 --> 1:35:49.719 you're not gonna say it's news, but you can literally 1:35:49.760 --> 1:35:52.599 put it out again, and it's like it's new guys. 1:35:53.640 --> 1:35:57.120 Algorithms are changing and it's just hitting new people. And 1:35:57.280 --> 1:35:59.479 that's something that I think people aren't realizing that's happening 1:35:59.600 --> 1:36:01.560 right now. You don't know because we're not We're not 1:36:01.640 --> 1:36:03.519 the ones making the technology, because you know why, I 1:36:03.560 --> 1:36:06.000 don't know exactly what you mean, what what it means 1:36:06.000 --> 1:36:07.519 is like back in the days, we just thought the 1:36:07.560 --> 1:36:10.000 record and you would know within that first month or 1:36:10.000 --> 1:36:13.000 two if this record is reacted or not, and then 1:36:13.520 --> 1:36:15.320 you would move on. You would say I'm moving to 1:36:15.400 --> 1:36:17.400 the next single, or you say I'm gonna keep pushing 1:36:17.439 --> 1:36:21.920 this tell us all six of months later. But here's 1:36:21.920 --> 1:36:24.280 the crazy thing. We I just threw out the record, 1:36:24.360 --> 1:36:29.000 what for real? And I'm thinking, okay, it did fair 1:36:29.120 --> 1:36:33.559 then decent, you know, we gotta whatever, And the guys 1:36:33.680 --> 1:36:37.000 just like so I keep pushing to drop the video 1:36:37.080 --> 1:36:39.680 with me, and for which this is, this is, this 1:36:39.800 --> 1:36:43.200 is right now, this recond this is this is so 1:36:43.479 --> 1:36:46.240 I said, and the guys that said please, we don't 1:36:46.439 --> 1:36:48.840 actually want to drop the video. So I'm like, why, 1:36:49.280 --> 1:36:52.000 like because we have seven million streams on the actually 1:36:52.040 --> 1:36:56.360 record and once we dropped the video like the ship drop, 1:36:56.560 --> 1:36:58.280 and I was just like, the moment is not the 1:36:58.479 --> 1:37:04.600 error I come not know. I'm a dinosaurs saying, we 1:37:04.680 --> 1:37:08.479 got to realize this. I don't have a plaque. I'm 1:37:08.560 --> 1:37:10.439 middle rolled, I'm right in the middle of my rollout 1:37:10.520 --> 1:37:12.400 right now, and I'm learning new ship because you know, 1:37:12.560 --> 1:37:15.880 just introducing the whole streaming aspect into it, it just changes. 1:37:16.280 --> 1:37:18.439 It changes everything from what it used to be. When 1:37:18.439 --> 1:37:23.840 I first got to the bas we survived like three 1:37:24.200 --> 1:37:30.000 different three different So when they told me that, they're like, 1:37:30.360 --> 1:37:32.720 they're like because because I couldn't believe it, Like I 1:37:32.840 --> 1:37:35.560 was like, they weren't in the rush to come to 1:37:35.640 --> 1:37:37.719 put out the video I'm talking about we're like almost 1:37:37.760 --> 1:37:41.360 like six seven months away away, and they're like, he'll 1:37:41.360 --> 1:37:44.360 look glory through because in their minds they're like, fun, 1:37:44.520 --> 1:37:47.760 let's just keep getting the streams it pays other and 1:37:47.800 --> 1:37:50.880 I understand it, but I just don't understand it because 1:37:51.560 --> 1:37:58.000 how much I'm traditionally trained how the business ran. And 1:37:58.200 --> 1:38:00.680 I realized I was a dinosaur. I should the funk up. 1:38:01.400 --> 1:38:03.559 I shut the funk up. And I was like, all right, cool, 1:38:04.080 --> 1:38:05.840 you know what I mean. But at the same time, 1:38:05.880 --> 1:38:08.640 so now hold on, hold on, hold on, you keep 1:38:08.680 --> 1:38:12.720 it going. I see you take a piss. I ain't 1:38:12.720 --> 1:38:18.760 gonna You're gonna move Royce out to take a pisall. Yeah, 1:38:19.200 --> 1:38:24.320 I want to forget. So scams down here, Scam, just 1:38:24.479 --> 1:38:27.680 just walk over at least over here. So this is 1:38:27.720 --> 1:38:31.040 my brother, Scam. You guys know each other. Can you 1:38:31.160 --> 1:38:35.960 tell me a little something about how you met scam? Scam? 1:38:36.040 --> 1:38:38.000 You gonna tell you? Tell us how you met each other. 1:38:40.400 --> 1:38:42.519 I don't even remember. Oh you know what, I'll tell 1:38:42.520 --> 1:38:47.920 you what I do remember? Shaky Green Game? Was it 1:38:48.040 --> 1:38:51.040 game Records? Right when they was doing Bad Meat to EV? 1:38:51.200 --> 1:38:54.800 Weren't even talking about those projects too? Were those independent joints? 1:38:55.320 --> 1:38:58.720 Just Vinyl? Yeah, just find with but you had like 1:38:58.800 --> 1:39:02.760 singles with just saying just you by yourself? Um? Yeah, 1:39:03.120 --> 1:39:06.160 well actually and this during the timing, boy, this is 1:39:06.240 --> 1:39:08.839 this is during my next deal, the Sony deal. Okay, 1:39:09.080 --> 1:39:11.439 so um yeah, one of the one of the one 1:39:11.479 --> 1:39:14.320 of the singles from off of there. What we would 1:39:14.360 --> 1:39:17.400 do was I did the album before I gave it 1:39:17.520 --> 1:39:20.160 to Sony and then Shaky Green from Gang Records. He 1:39:20.240 --> 1:39:23.200 had the rights to do the singles from off the album, 1:39:23.720 --> 1:39:25.920 so he had like this vinylity he would do where 1:39:25.960 --> 1:39:28.280 he would put like the half naked girls on the 1:39:28.400 --> 1:39:30.080 on the cover. I thought there was a point coming 1:39:30.240 --> 1:39:35.759 trade up like that. You know, they were actually porn 1:39:35.920 --> 1:39:38.519 stars on the cover. I don't know if it was 1:39:38.880 --> 1:39:42.040 something sometimes it was on my cover. DJ. I enjoyed 1:39:42.080 --> 1:39:44.640 getting those those records. Yeah, that was that was that 1:39:44.760 --> 1:39:51.679 was the plan. That was amazing records. You doing CrossFit 1:39:51.760 --> 1:39:53.479 right now. I was trying to man, I was trying 1:39:53.520 --> 1:39:58.719 to up up. So um, you can't interrupt. I'm so sorry. Definitely, 1:39:58.800 --> 1:40:02.240 I will not CONTI he was finishing up. But we're 1:40:02.280 --> 1:40:05.720 bringing up out him and scamming to each other. So 1:40:07.000 --> 1:40:09.640 I remember, I mean, I'm seeing the past and you 1:40:09.640 --> 1:40:14.720 know what I'm saying, like Detroit, scam scared Miami, Carol City, Man, 1:40:14.840 --> 1:40:21.640 how did you meet? What type of listen documentary? But 1:40:21.720 --> 1:40:23.840 scam got a whole story with M and everything that 1:40:23.920 --> 1:40:27.680 goes on. So so all right, I mean me and him. 1:40:29.280 --> 1:40:31.120 He wasn't from New York, so he was just like 1:40:31.640 --> 1:40:35.760 none of us met M. Follows your lawyer, right yeah? 1:40:36.040 --> 1:40:38.760 He was like, uh yeah, all of that. He was 1:40:38.840 --> 1:40:43.439 the undergrounds lawyer, like all the underground dudes. Is he 1:40:43.520 --> 1:40:48.320 your lawyer too? Nah? He? Um, I met Paul through 1:40:48.479 --> 1:40:52.280 M two. He was he was a M's lawyer and um, 1:40:52.680 --> 1:40:55.439 M should started taking off. He he just start focusing 1:40:55.479 --> 1:40:58.000 on management full time. He actually worked at the firm. 1:40:59.080 --> 1:41:02.120 Um cutlers at him. Yeah, with DEO set up lawyer. 1:41:02.240 --> 1:41:07.800 Yeah no you know yeah, yeah, so THEO was my 1:41:07.920 --> 1:41:10.120 lawyer and he worked at the front. Paul worked at 1:41:10.120 --> 1:41:14.160 the firm. Yeah. Did you you got to meet though 1:41:14.200 --> 1:41:17.920 when you took him to the source, right, Na, Na, 1:41:19.320 --> 1:41:23.599 I'm Royce just came through. I don't know, I don't 1:41:23.640 --> 1:41:25.880 know what you was you traveling with us when he 1:41:25.960 --> 1:41:30.360 was starting. Na. We we did a couple of stops 1:41:30.439 --> 1:41:33.040 when he before he got the deal, Like when he 1:41:33.080 --> 1:41:35.599 went to Swaye. I was with ya all that night. 1:41:35.680 --> 1:41:42.280 Y'all went up the stretching Bob. But they Paul kind 1:41:42.280 --> 1:41:45.920 of wanted it to be like just Detroit and the 1:41:46.400 --> 1:41:50.439 excluded Miami or he thought of he was New York Paul. Yeah, no, 1:41:50.720 --> 1:41:55.120 he just he was a yeah, they were pro Detroit. 1:41:55.320 --> 1:41:58.280 Like you know what I'm saying, you can't even had them, 1:41:59.320 --> 1:42:01.800 you know what I'm saying. But like he was saying, 1:42:01.880 --> 1:42:04.479 when you when you were younger, you like, what the 1:42:04.520 --> 1:42:09.479 fuss they got wrapped him? But you know, yeah, I 1:42:09.560 --> 1:42:11.400 see what they was trying to do, you wrapped or 1:42:11.479 --> 1:42:15.160 he was just he had a song. That song that's 1:42:15.560 --> 1:42:17.840 I even got the underground ship that you do with scam. 1:42:18.160 --> 1:42:23.800 That understand he's talking about scam. Oh that's the all 1:42:23.920 --> 1:42:28.080 moment right there. And not to get too deep into it, 1:42:28.160 --> 1:42:32.880 but you too source right, Yeah, I mean Rige Morales 1:42:33.000 --> 1:42:38.120 unsigned hype that Riggs was in scam. Regor's was going on, 1:42:38.240 --> 1:42:40.080 you're not paying for bills no more. Let's card to 1:42:40.120 --> 1:42:48.040 be around. Come on, let's look my guy. Ain't Juli 1:42:48.080 --> 1:42:50.519 agree one? He was like, Yo, you want to you 1:42:50.600 --> 1:42:53.040 want to you know, rush on this before Stress magazine 1:42:53.080 --> 1:42:55.360 puts it out shout to Stress, you know what saying. 1:42:55.439 --> 1:42:57.800 Rigor was boom, you did it rand next month and 1:42:57.840 --> 1:43:00.920 then it was just like, but you took him over them. Yeah, 1:43:01.320 --> 1:43:04.240 me and took the stuff over there, took them to 1:43:04.560 --> 1:43:07.080 to get on side the hype. This is, this is 1:43:07.280 --> 1:43:12.040 very deep allegations. No, it's not allegations. This is this 1:43:12.120 --> 1:43:16.120 is my brother, so it's very deep. Paul was just 1:43:16.280 --> 1:43:19.240 passing the bar or I think he was just passing 1:43:19.320 --> 1:43:22.559 the bar rick Posada. He was the and R e lecturer. 1:43:22.640 --> 1:43:24.960 He hooked me up with him, and Paul didn't really 1:43:25.000 --> 1:43:29.080 know the underground like that. So you want smoke brouse, 1:43:30.160 --> 1:43:35.080 I think that's a silver Chad's the case. Man. You 1:43:35.160 --> 1:43:38.000 know this is you know this eminem Stands is like Barbies. 1:43:38.479 --> 1:43:40.800 I'm just throwing it out there. They were the first 1:43:40.880 --> 1:43:44.439 Barbies stands. You don't want the Stands in your comments 1:43:45.200 --> 1:43:48.200 right now. You better make sure everything you say is correct. 1:43:50.760 --> 1:43:53.080 I'm just saying, you know what I'm saying. The bottom line, 1:43:53.080 --> 1:43:56.000 he didn't really know the underground, dude, so he gave 1:43:56.040 --> 1:43:58.040 it to me. You know what I'm saying. I heard it. 1:43:58.640 --> 1:44:01.200 And you know the Detroit Cats they say things kind 1:44:01.240 --> 1:44:05.400 of like Miami. They say Finnim get stuck stole. I 1:44:05.520 --> 1:44:07.880 never heard nobody that wasn't from Miami. To say any 1:44:07.920 --> 1:44:11.360 of that is true, Royce, you finna get stuff stolen 1:44:11.400 --> 1:44:14.000 and stuff because I just don't give a fuck, you 1:44:14.040 --> 1:44:16.120 know what I'm saying. So I was like, Okay, I 1:44:16.160 --> 1:44:18.640 can tell he was white, just like Front of Tonality. 1:44:19.040 --> 1:44:21.160 But I was like, Yo, it was dope, but this 1:44:21.240 --> 1:44:24.000 is you're hearing it from Paul showing it too. You yeah, yeah, 1:44:24.320 --> 1:44:26.439 And I was like, Yo, if it's dope, I get that. 1:44:26.479 --> 1:44:28.200 Everybody need to get to you know what I'm saying. 1:44:28.280 --> 1:44:31.479 Then he took it a stretch stretching Bob. So how 1:44:31.520 --> 1:44:34.880 did you already have these connects with Oh, that's just 1:44:35.160 --> 1:44:37.000 with my art, Like I was just in New York 1:44:37.120 --> 1:44:39.400 just because you know he did damn I had to 1:44:39.479 --> 1:44:43.040 tape and and then what stretching Bob making print calls? 1:44:43.400 --> 1:44:45.080 I actually had that tape. No, but you know, he 1:44:45.160 --> 1:44:47.840 did the artwork for be Trying in Life trip called 1:44:47.880 --> 1:44:51.120 Quest goddamn It. And he did the first album all 1:44:51.160 --> 1:44:54.040 the artwork inside goddamn It. So how did you go 1:44:54.200 --> 1:45:02.240 from doing underground work with scam Scam? How did you 1:45:02.320 --> 1:45:07.479 go from getting to do the to to doing the artwork. 1:45:07.560 --> 1:45:09.679 That's what I'm saying. No, we was, We was hanging 1:45:09.680 --> 1:45:12.840 out and you said, fucking I'm not gonna be an artist. 1:45:12.880 --> 1:45:16.479 I could actually design. There was no separation between church 1:45:16.560 --> 1:45:18.760 and state. For me. That's I'm art for music. I'm 1:45:18.840 --> 1:45:21.559 all that ship and was a skater. He was he's 1:45:21.560 --> 1:45:26.640 a skater, Yeah, a skater. Skate No not, he just 1:45:26.680 --> 1:45:31.960 said he told me that about a little bit. Folasco man, 1:45:32.720 --> 1:45:42.959 a little bit Folasco. I never I don't live in Fiansco. 1:45:43.040 --> 1:45:45.760 He's that one Flasco A little bit, a little bit, 1:45:46.000 --> 1:45:49.000 a little bit. But I tell you one thing, me 1:45:49.080 --> 1:45:53.439 and him and him was in Tom Squares arguing about 1:45:53.640 --> 1:45:56.599 whether jay Z was doping not so. At the time 1:45:56.680 --> 1:45:59.639 of jay z Oh Ship, this was like very important 1:46:00.040 --> 1:46:02.840 when he was still running college radio before like like 1:46:05.920 --> 1:46:08.560 like well like all the underground stations they used to 1:46:08.600 --> 1:46:12.040 play I understand what you're saying. I forgot dead President 1:46:12.560 --> 1:46:16.640 Death President like a little after that. But they was like, 1:46:16.920 --> 1:46:19.479 I was like, you know whatever, But he checked me, 1:46:20.200 --> 1:46:22.880 and he's checked you both of that, mainly him. He 1:46:23.000 --> 1:46:24.960 was just like, yo, I see it in his face. 1:46:25.040 --> 1:46:27.439 He checked you. Definitely checked. He was like, but what 1:46:27.600 --> 1:46:29.720 what what do you know? What? What songs you know? 1:46:30.120 --> 1:46:31.479 And I was like, I don't need to know anything. 1:46:31.520 --> 1:46:33.120 I know the singles, You're like, you don't need to 1:46:33.160 --> 1:46:36.400 listen to it. So after that, I made it a 1:46:36.520 --> 1:46:39.599 point to always listen to some ship before I talk 1:46:39.640 --> 1:46:42.000 about it. You know what I'm saying. It was from 1:46:42.160 --> 1:46:44.680 from that and that That's just always been my philosophy 1:46:44.760 --> 1:46:46.479 ever since that. A lot of times I had to 1:46:46.560 --> 1:46:48.559 come back and be like, oh, I see what they 1:46:48.560 --> 1:46:51.360 were talking about. You know what I'm saying. Reasonable, that 1:46:51.520 --> 1:46:55.840 was like a bible. Man, It's like a bible. I 1:46:56.000 --> 1:46:59.560 fought for that album all barbershops. But boy said, I 1:46:59.600 --> 1:47:03.400 wouldn't get back to the most genuine hip hop question 1:47:03.520 --> 1:47:07.160 ever in hip hop because you said earlier, dodge the question, 1:47:07.439 --> 1:47:11.880 Okay has down if you had to pick one unequivarate, Really, 1:47:12.720 --> 1:47:15.080 it's not because it's your man. Is did not because 1:47:15.120 --> 1:47:17.439 the guy you grew up with it for the sake 1:47:17.439 --> 1:47:19.360 of hip hop. If you had to save hip hop, 1:47:20.360 --> 1:47:25.000 he had to say who had the better verse? Oh 1:47:25.040 --> 1:47:28.719 I dodged the question. Yeah, he didn't want to renegade 1:47:28.800 --> 1:47:31.280 Joy because I got want more for him too. Because 1:47:31.439 --> 1:47:32.920 I just want you to I want you to answer 1:47:32.960 --> 1:47:36.639 it again. I want you to reiterate, Okay, you want 1:47:36.640 --> 1:47:40.760 to go down that your hit past that away renegade 1:47:42.000 --> 1:47:46.320 M one renegade like I I like him verse, I 1:47:46.439 --> 1:47:50.160 like MS versus better right, because how he was rapping 1:47:50.200 --> 1:47:53.320 on it is what I just prefer. Okay, but it's 1:47:53.520 --> 1:47:56.320 you can't really say it's better than holes verse because 1:47:56.320 --> 1:47:58.960 a lot of hood people relate to holes first. More 1:47:59.160 --> 1:48:02.519 because what m was saying was super lyrical that it 1:48:02.600 --> 1:48:05.639 kind of went over a lot of people's hat. Okay, 1:48:05.960 --> 1:48:11.919 what was the better disrecord, nas etha or whole takeover comes? 1:48:12.640 --> 1:48:15.439 That's a loaded question, BROO, don't know what that means? 1:48:16.000 --> 1:48:18.800 Can I D I don't know. You better ask it 1:48:19.000 --> 1:48:25.800 right because I'm from queen what Okay, relationship with Chance 1:48:25.920 --> 1:48:30.479 I love that was? That was that bias? That was 1:48:31.160 --> 1:48:33.240 Let let me tell you something. And I had the 1:48:33.360 --> 1:48:36.519 longest argument in the studio with Jlek about this ship 1:48:38.800 --> 1:48:41.400 your jail electronic. Let me just tell you something. And 1:48:41.439 --> 1:48:44.479 when you love you, you are new rock him, You 1:48:44.560 --> 1:48:48.160 are new nas Why are you dodging a dipping needs 1:48:48.680 --> 1:48:51.679 to take place and put your crown on. We don't 1:48:51.760 --> 1:48:53.880 understand that, We don't know that, but we want to 1:48:53.960 --> 1:48:57.040 encourage you wherever you at to put your motherfucking crown 1:48:57.120 --> 1:48:59.719 on and take fucking hip hop the way you're supposed 1:48:59.760 --> 1:49:02.479 to take hip hop. Motherfucker, it's yours. Make some noise 1:49:02.520 --> 1:49:07.920 for that, and that's a great brother talk right there. 1:49:08.479 --> 1:49:11.720 I apausized, scared. No, it's all good. I agree. I'm 1:49:11.960 --> 1:49:24.640 listening either one right one w O na ye like 1:49:25.880 --> 1:49:29.920 like as in past are Ether one in the battle 1:49:30.000 --> 1:49:33.000 that was the napalm bomb, So that song has to 1:49:33.040 --> 1:49:35.280 get this respect as the best. Wait, I feel like 1:49:35.320 --> 1:49:37.679 you're sending this up for the wrong way, and it's 1:49:37.880 --> 1:49:42.599 very political way. He's sober, continue and we're talking about 1:49:42.640 --> 1:49:50.560 the best record ether one right take over. If we 1:49:50.720 --> 1:49:57.880 just analyzing songs, it had way more lines this we 1:49:57.960 --> 1:50:03.200 would disagree. I just really it's a great record. Though 1:50:05.240 --> 1:50:08.880 a great record, NAS had better execution and better timing, 1:50:09.720 --> 1:50:12.560 and that those are two Those are two elements in 1:50:12.680 --> 1:50:16.280 battles that are so important that people overlook. You mean, 1:50:16.400 --> 1:50:21.800 you can why super Ugly wasn't taking because it wasn't 1:50:21.800 --> 1:50:24.920 the wrong thing to say that at that time. Yes, 1:50:25.120 --> 1:50:28.839 that's why I would murder move battle somebody. He wins 1:50:29.040 --> 1:50:31.760 sometimes and it's not because he's being more lyrical is 1:50:31.800 --> 1:50:34.639 because he's saying the right ship. You know what I'm saying. 1:50:35.240 --> 1:50:37.720 It ain't always about being has something to do with it, 1:50:38.240 --> 1:50:40.160 always about being the better MC. A lot of people 1:50:40.200 --> 1:50:42.720 don't like the Ether beat a lot of people, I think, 1:50:42.760 --> 1:50:45.400 and I think the way that they positive like they 1:50:45.479 --> 1:50:49.000 did all the right. I like it because because of 1:50:49.040 --> 1:50:51.400 what Nas did to it. I like because Nas did 1:50:51.479 --> 1:50:54.519 to it, and I like it because he also made 1:50:54.640 --> 1:50:58.240 jokes about it, because battling should be that serious. When 1:50:58.240 --> 1:51:01.240 he called him j J Evans, you called you that 1:51:01.360 --> 1:51:04.080 ship was sold, took it back. It was it was 1:51:04.200 --> 1:51:07.519 snapping on on and at Homes took it so serious. 1:51:08.200 --> 1:51:12.360 And I, hands down think Ether is better than UH 1:51:12.560 --> 1:51:15.280 take Over. And I think it's better than Super Army. 1:51:15.680 --> 1:51:18.320 And I love jay Z, I love Rockefeller. They've been 1:51:18.360 --> 1:51:21.080 cutting me checks for over twenty years. I don't want 1:51:21.120 --> 1:51:25.000 to stop our relationship at all. Yeah, but I also 1:51:25.080 --> 1:51:27.080 have to be truthful, and I think that they respect 1:51:27.160 --> 1:51:30.320 my truthfulness. Ether was more effective. It was more effective, 1:51:30.479 --> 1:51:32.720 and because it is, and if you don't remember, I 1:51:32.800 --> 1:51:35.160 see a lot of people wasn't really around that day 1:51:36.080 --> 1:51:40.519 those days, but Nas was receiving blows from every single 1:51:40.720 --> 1:51:44.960 plus you get. You can't that NAS was the underdog 1:51:45.040 --> 1:51:47.920 at that point as well. I can't say the other dog. 1:51:48.000 --> 1:51:51.240 I gotta say that game at that point. But let 1:51:51.320 --> 1:51:55.360 me finish. I gotta say that when to your acknowledgement, 1:51:55.600 --> 1:51:57.920 he was the other dog because Jay was right there 1:51:58.080 --> 1:52:01.080 trying to beat it, trying to be right above him 1:52:01.160 --> 1:52:03.960 at the left was now he was not at that 1:52:05.280 --> 1:52:07.400 He tried to tell you something, it's all hip hop 1:52:07.439 --> 1:52:09.599 and pinion. This is not at that point in time. 1:52:09.840 --> 1:52:12.280 At that point in time, I was on Columbia with Nas, 1:52:13.760 --> 1:52:16.400 people were treating. When his name came up, it was 1:52:16.479 --> 1:52:20.360 coming up in the context of like he finished. So 1:52:20.479 --> 1:52:24.439 then that's what I'm saying. He was was like running ship. Yeah, 1:52:24.600 --> 1:52:26.720 that's jay Z was running ship. So it was like, 1:52:26.800 --> 1:52:28.360 that's the reason why he took the shot of the 1:52:28.479 --> 1:52:30.080 par take over. He was coming when he was coming, 1:52:30.120 --> 1:52:32.200 and he felt that too. When he was coming at night, 1:52:32.280 --> 1:52:36.599 he was everybody was like, Nas just finished, got hold 1:52:36.600 --> 1:52:39.200 of coming at him, hold his bulletproof at that time. 1:52:39.880 --> 1:52:42.800 That's what I'm saying that the press. The part that 1:52:42.840 --> 1:52:48.040 you forget is that when when Takeover came out, Nas 1:52:48.080 --> 1:52:50.559 waiting like two or three months and people were dissing 1:52:50.640 --> 1:52:52.880 him for it, and back then you were supposed to 1:52:52.920 --> 1:52:55.679 respond immediately, just like how this right now, I don't 1:52:55.720 --> 1:52:58.600 think he was gonna respond that he did. It was 1:52:58.840 --> 1:53:01.280 it wasn't going to be effective because it took Listen 1:53:01.360 --> 1:53:04.360 to me, now, I sat back and kill and then 1:53:04.439 --> 1:53:09.360 when the finally came out, it did, and it was. 1:53:09.920 --> 1:53:12.400 It was the exact thing like when I seen Meek 1:53:12.439 --> 1:53:17.160 and Drake battling and I heard um Rick Ross say 1:53:17.200 --> 1:53:21.479 to me, yo, you don't have to respond immediately, wait 1:53:22.080 --> 1:53:25.320 and take your time, and me still did what he did. 1:53:26.280 --> 1:53:29.519 I reminisced of that very moment of nas just sitting 1:53:29.560 --> 1:53:32.240 back and just he just not saying nothing, and he 1:53:32.400 --> 1:53:35.639 waited and he like I heard the original ether case 1:53:35.680 --> 1:53:39.920 you not. I said this on the podcast that one 1:53:40.120 --> 1:53:43.080 he um I feel like he went to personally, that 1:53:43.160 --> 1:53:47.920 was the angry version right about this. He heard about this. 1:53:48.360 --> 1:53:52.120 It wasn't good. It was good, but it was angry. 1:53:52.439 --> 1:53:56.240 So you can't really appreciate a lyricist being angry, Like 1:53:56.360 --> 1:53:59.519 a lyricist should never be angry. A lyricist knows that 1:53:59.680 --> 1:54:02.360 you at it. That's why your flex rest out. You're 1:54:02.360 --> 1:54:04.200 sitting there and you're going like this and you're laughing 1:54:04.520 --> 1:54:08.360 and between them balls. It's like when I'm watching I 1:54:08.439 --> 1:54:10.840 like when I'm watching battles and the battle that could 1:54:10.840 --> 1:54:16.320 provide like the comedy exactly be conversational. Takeover. Takeover was 1:54:16.439 --> 1:54:18.640 like you know what I'm saying. It was like a 1:54:18.720 --> 1:54:23.160 flow now. It was just all in different pockets conversation 1:54:23.240 --> 1:54:26.759 on either you know what I'm saying, Like your argument 1:54:26.920 --> 1:54:30.679 four Ether or four Takeover, I think either was. Ether 1:54:30.880 --> 1:54:34.480 was more effective. Takeover. It was more like a record. 1:54:36.560 --> 1:54:41.040 When you say it's a great record, it's it's just 1:54:41.120 --> 1:54:43.360 the truth. It's a great record. It is a takeover. 1:54:43.600 --> 1:54:46.640 Takeover is going Takeover as a part of a classic album. Bro, 1:54:47.280 --> 1:54:49.160 that's a classic song. That ship is going down to 1:54:49.280 --> 1:54:51.720 history forever. But you gotta pick one. You gotta pick 1:54:51.800 --> 1:54:54.160 one now. I just told you Ether is more effective. 1:54:54.920 --> 1:54:56.560 You know what I'm saying. If I'm putting on, if 1:54:56.560 --> 1:54:58.960 I'm putting on, if I'm putting on one or the 1:54:59.040 --> 1:55:01.200 other in my car, I'm probably gonna play Ether more 1:55:02.120 --> 1:55:05.120 if I'm if I'm listening to the Blueprint, might not 1:55:05.240 --> 1:55:07.080 skip go straight to take Over. You know what I'm 1:55:07.080 --> 1:55:11.160 saying like, that's a whole classic album. So I pick 1:55:11.240 --> 1:55:14.480 I picked either. Yeah, I would pick Ether too. It 1:55:14.600 --> 1:55:21.240 just makes some voice to pick a Hope was my 1:55:21.360 --> 1:55:25.360 man as well. And I tried to do this. No, no, 1:55:25.840 --> 1:55:28.080 this is hip hop. Can you put that back into 1:55:28.080 --> 1:55:30.520 their police I definitely want to come on. This is 1:55:30.600 --> 1:55:33.160 pure hip hop fans ship, and this is pure hip 1:55:33.160 --> 1:55:38.400 hop discussion ship like a lot of us. Like, the 1:55:38.480 --> 1:55:41.880 craziest thing is everyone is mad at me because I 1:55:41.960 --> 1:55:45.040 don't say that embody j on Reddy Game. He didn't 1:55:45.080 --> 1:55:51.440 body him don't body and didn't say it again. People 1:55:51.560 --> 1:55:57.600 feel like I should admit that Jay got bodied. I 1:55:57.640 --> 1:56:00.280 don't feel like that because and I just know that 1:56:00.360 --> 1:56:02.240 if I was to say, yo, I related to Jay 1:56:02.360 --> 1:56:05.360 Z's verse a little bit more than him, it's because 1:56:05.440 --> 1:56:07.800 I would get a lot of hate, right. And the 1:56:07.920 --> 1:56:12.000 thing about it is I was against the wall awkward lefty, 1:56:12.800 --> 1:56:16.080 you know, the ship that he was saying, the ship 1:56:16.160 --> 1:56:19.480 that m was saying. I knew it was lyrical ship, 1:56:19.840 --> 1:56:23.520 but I actually didn't live that me personally, I didn't 1:56:23.600 --> 1:56:29.280 live you know, I didn't live what he was saying. Well, 1:56:29.320 --> 1:56:32.560 when Jay said I boxed the wall boxing lefty. But 1:56:32.640 --> 1:56:35.160 I realized if I was to ever say that publicly, 1:56:35.360 --> 1:56:39.320 I seemed like a jay Z writer as opposed to 1:56:39.880 --> 1:56:43.280 and my fucking five fox with him and them, I 1:56:43.400 --> 1:56:47.040 know his ship just as good as him. But this record, 1:56:47.280 --> 1:56:49.520 I feel like, this is what I say, and it 1:56:49.600 --> 1:56:53.560 makes me seem like a foul not a foul dude. 1:56:53.600 --> 1:56:55.800 It makes me seem like I don't want to keep it. 1:56:55.880 --> 1:57:01.160 Real is, when I look at a masterpiece record, I 1:57:01.240 --> 1:57:03.680 don't care a butt who has the better verse? Yeah 1:57:03.800 --> 1:57:07.560 you shouldn't. You shouldn't. It's a masterpiece record. So people 1:57:07.600 --> 1:57:10.080 ask me every day who had the better verse or 1:57:10.120 --> 1:57:12.480 bad from TV? And you know what I really say, 1:57:12.560 --> 1:57:17.040 in my heart, bad from TV the best verse. It's 1:57:17.520 --> 1:57:19.680 because if you're taking one of them out and you 1:57:19.800 --> 1:57:21.760 say one of them is more important than that, that 1:57:21.880 --> 1:57:26.280 record is. It's not a class no more. If you 1:57:26.360 --> 1:57:28.840 ask the best of who shot your with the firm 1:57:29.680 --> 1:57:32.440 all these classic records with you know, Symphony and all 1:57:32.480 --> 1:57:34.720 these classic records. Anyway, let me not get into it. 1:57:34.880 --> 1:57:36.680 And you say who you's got the best verse? You 1:57:36.800 --> 1:57:40.840 actually take away from the actual record. It's just fun 1:57:40.920 --> 1:57:42.560 to do as a fan, you know, trying to get it. 1:57:43.360 --> 1:57:45.480 These monsters on the same song. It's like, that's what 1:57:45.520 --> 1:57:48.280 you're gonna do. You your favorite, but maybe what you're 1:57:48.280 --> 1:57:50.360 saying is like the best or whatever. It's like it's 1:57:50.400 --> 1:57:52.080 all subjected at the end of day. I get it. 1:57:52.120 --> 1:57:53.800 But at the end of the day, you actually take 1:57:53.840 --> 1:57:56.680 away from the actually record when you're not saying because 1:57:56.720 --> 1:57:59.840 if you say alright, cool, you take that record away, 1:57:59.880 --> 1:58:03.040 it's that record and not still a classicsoutely you know 1:58:03.080 --> 1:58:05.720 what I'm saying. And that's the thing is I started 1:58:05.760 --> 1:58:08.080 to realize that. I started to realize I was always 1:58:08.120 --> 1:58:11.840 a fan until I became a fan artist, because as 1:58:11.920 --> 1:58:14.520 an artist, I still was a fan. I still like 1:58:14.640 --> 1:58:16.840 to listen to this ship. I don't give a funk. 1:58:17.120 --> 1:58:20.520 If I was platinum and you were fucking you know, um, 1:58:21.240 --> 1:58:23.640 you know you sold three records. If I was in 1:58:23.840 --> 1:58:26.200 your ship, I'm gonna dig get ship. That's just who 1:58:26.280 --> 1:58:29.320 I am, you know what I'm saying. So I'm I 1:58:29.400 --> 1:58:31.960 don't know, man. I went in a little crissy a 1:58:32.040 --> 1:58:33.800 little bit. Yeah, this is the first time I had 1:58:33.840 --> 1:58:41.600 green cups. This is the same Patrick Sting. So now, Pride, 1:58:42.120 --> 1:58:44.640 how the fund did you and the cream even initially 1:58:44.840 --> 1:58:48.240 DJ motherfucking Familiar, DJ motherfucking Man. So now how do 1:58:48.320 --> 1:58:52.360 you I mean we um ever since we did like 1:58:52.480 --> 1:58:54.440 the first Ship, when we did Boom way back in 1:58:54.480 --> 1:58:57.960 the day, it was like people was kind of like 1:58:58.200 --> 1:59:00.720 a classic record brother, thank you man. People kind of 1:59:00.760 --> 1:59:03.360 like you hold on, I gotta ask you Orice. That 1:59:03.480 --> 1:59:06.360 was on your album Boom, Yeah, that was your beat, bro, 1:59:06.880 --> 1:59:10.640 where this is freestyle? Boom was your beat? Damn, Bro, 1:59:11.720 --> 1:59:14.000 he don't even know what I'm saying. When I when 1:59:14.040 --> 1:59:15.680 I got to the studio when Prime, when me and 1:59:15.720 --> 1:59:19.280 Prim was working, He's supposed to work. He was making 1:59:19.320 --> 1:59:25.120 the Boom beat for seeing that. Damn know this star continue. 1:59:25.160 --> 1:59:32.360 I didn't even know we were going there now it hurts. Yeah. 1:59:32.440 --> 1:59:35.200 So I get to the studio and he's making the beat. 1:59:35.240 --> 1:59:37.960 So I'm like, damn, I'm happy. I'm like this is 1:59:38.000 --> 1:59:40.920 the beat. I'm I'm thinking the lines. I'm right, I'm 1:59:41.000 --> 1:59:44.160 jumping down. He was like, no, I'm making this for Funority, 1:59:44.280 --> 1:59:46.840 Nori and component them, And I'm like, I'm looking around, 1:59:47.000 --> 1:59:52.520 like Ship that's used to be a DA was looking 1:59:52.520 --> 1:59:55.440 around like where they at? You know what I'm saying, 1:59:55.680 --> 1:59:59.120 You're just so you know, please remember exactly where you 1:59:59.280 --> 2:00:02.160 was at. You know, I hate it Premier the first 2:00:02.200 --> 2:00:05.560 time I worked because we paid him off front. We 2:00:05.720 --> 2:00:07.760 was just so much fans. They were like, yo, he 2:00:07.800 --> 2:00:11.080 wants his money up front. He was like Garret. And 2:00:11.200 --> 2:00:15.520 then he just wouldn't just see us every day. He 2:00:15.560 --> 2:00:17.640 would be like, y'all working on a beat for you. 2:00:17.960 --> 2:00:19.680 And this is back in the days where you can't 2:00:19.760 --> 2:00:23.920 tweet it, you can working for you. I thought he 2:00:24.080 --> 2:00:31.320 was getting me, my dude, but I'm not saying he's 2:00:31.360 --> 2:00:36.240 from Brooklyn. You know, this is this is what they know. Yes, 2:00:36.320 --> 2:00:38.480 this is what they knowing the I'm like, oh, he 2:00:38.680 --> 2:00:42.160 might be getting me. And he would call me, like 2:00:42.560 --> 2:00:45.160 I'll call you on on on Tuesday, He'll call me 2:00:45.280 --> 2:00:50.440 on Thursday. It just didn't seem right. So I actually 2:00:50.520 --> 2:00:53.480 came to the studio. Sorry please right now. Actually came 2:00:53.520 --> 2:00:55.920 to the studio. And this, this is what hurt my 2:00:55.960 --> 2:00:58.880 feelings even more, was I walked in the studio. He 2:00:59.000 --> 2:01:04.240 was like, and he's playing He's not playing, He's not 2:01:04.440 --> 2:01:07.400 he's not playing ship off for this, He's actually making 2:01:07.440 --> 2:01:10.280 it live and he's like this, And I went like this, 2:01:12.240 --> 2:01:15.040 And then when I sat down, I didn't beat. Then 2:01:15.080 --> 2:01:26.120 they said, and he rates the beating. I want you know, 2:01:26.920 --> 2:01:29.640 because the thing about me is if I'm not bopping 2:01:29.680 --> 2:01:32.480 this because I'm writing like I'm righting in my head. 2:01:32.640 --> 2:01:35.360 But don't get me wrong, I'm not a full potential 2:01:36.600 --> 2:01:38.680 bar right in the head. So I get six in 2:01:38.800 --> 2:01:41.560 my head. I go like this, but I might get 2:01:41.640 --> 2:01:45.280 quiet on you. I might get quiet maybe like right. 2:01:46.640 --> 2:01:53.760 And then they looked at me and he said, and 2:01:53.880 --> 2:01:57.160 he got my full check, so I'm like, y'all hold up. 2:01:58.120 --> 2:02:00.600 And then he played in another one, and then the 2:02:00.760 --> 2:02:04.120 poem did the same as he erased that one too, 2:02:09.920 --> 2:02:13.040 and then it was the third one that he was 2:02:13.080 --> 2:02:15.240 like boom. He was like, yeah, I like this, and 2:02:15.320 --> 2:02:17.680 it was like yo, boom. And this was by this time, 2:02:17.680 --> 2:02:20.200 it's four o'clock in the morning. We're all beat. It's 2:02:20.240 --> 2:02:23.720 like your tomorrow morning, you're coming here and we'll happen. 2:02:24.120 --> 2:02:26.320 And then that's tomorrow morning. He came in and that's 2:02:26.360 --> 2:02:29.280 what he put in all the scratches, which this is 2:02:29.320 --> 2:02:35.440 the invincible, but but that that that that was the 2:02:35.520 --> 2:02:38.480 first he had droned, be ready for y'all listen. I 2:02:38.560 --> 2:02:42.960 was probably you know listen, you know Listen, I'm so 2:02:43.120 --> 2:02:47.320 happy that you told me this because listen previous my brother. Right, 2:02:48.040 --> 2:02:51.480 but that first week of our relationship, I thought he 2:02:51.680 --> 2:02:55.000 really tried to be like I thought he really bullshitted 2:02:55.120 --> 2:02:57.720 me because like we were going and he was just like, 2:02:57.840 --> 2:03:02.000 it's not the night. And then I would see Biggie 2:03:02.040 --> 2:03:05.200 and Junior Mafia and I'm like, I sure, it's not tonight, nigger. 2:03:05.560 --> 2:03:08.400 You know this is this is big becoming big, and 2:03:08.520 --> 2:03:12.360 then Jay but I'm continued, so you are Ceah. I 2:03:12.400 --> 2:03:14.600 mean that that was basically if I went in there, 2:03:15.440 --> 2:03:17.600 he said he was making a beat for y'all. So 2:03:17.680 --> 2:03:20.240 I had just put I put a prime together. Just 2:03:20.360 --> 2:03:27.280 give me that props, the rules, the rule, you know, 2:03:28.600 --> 2:03:30.920 we put them together ahead. I'm sorry, I'm I'm sorry, 2:03:31.000 --> 2:03:32.720 right yeah, I mean that's the that's that's the day 2:03:32.760 --> 2:03:34.520 that we did Boom, and that was like one of 2:03:34.600 --> 2:03:36.640 the first things we did together. So it just so 2:03:36.760 --> 2:03:40.040 happened like after I when I kept doing albums, you know, 2:03:40.120 --> 2:03:42.960 we kept in touch and we got cool. You know 2:03:43.000 --> 2:03:44.480 what I'm saying, Like I didn't expect for us to 2:03:44.520 --> 2:03:47.720 get cool. So we had like a lasting relationship from 2:03:48.360 --> 2:03:53.840 whatever that was nine whatever it was all the way 2:03:53.880 --> 2:03:56.600 up until now so and Premiers a realized dude, Like 2:03:56.880 --> 2:03:59.000 once you have a relationship with him, yeah, I mean 2:03:59.040 --> 2:04:01.120 we got to point where were just friends, you know 2:04:01.160 --> 2:04:04.360 what I'm saying. It's like he executive produced one of 2:04:04.440 --> 2:04:07.320 my albums before a car Streethart. So we worked. Yeah, 2:04:07.360 --> 2:04:09.920 we worked pretty much in every capacity. You know, he 2:04:10.000 --> 2:04:12.040 did ship a slaughter House, you know what I mean. 2:04:12.120 --> 2:04:14.440 So it was like, this is like the obvious next 2:04:14.480 --> 2:04:16.280 step for me and him if we were gonna take 2:04:16.440 --> 2:04:20.720 you know, take the creativity any further. So, um, my man, 2:04:20.840 --> 2:04:25.680 Mike Haran had an idea yeah, yeah, yeah, So he 2:04:25.800 --> 2:04:29.520 had an idea to to take for somebody who was 2:04:29.600 --> 2:04:33.880 like a master a chopping shopping samples, having them pull 2:04:34.080 --> 2:04:37.720 music from one source and making an album like that. 2:04:37.840 --> 2:04:40.680 So the idea was initially for slaughter House because Mike 2:04:40.840 --> 2:04:44.440 is an r over there shady, So that was the idea. 2:04:44.480 --> 2:04:46.600 We're gonna use Adrian Young. This is a whole It 2:04:46.720 --> 2:04:48.680 just came out of nowhere and use Adrian Young, and 2:04:48.720 --> 2:04:50.920 he was like popping. Remember when Timberland did Adrian Young 2:04:50.960 --> 2:04:54.640 sample being it was a magnet Carter. So, um, it 2:04:54.760 --> 2:04:56.160 was like all right, cool, so we're gonna do this. 2:04:56.280 --> 2:04:57.760 I thought the idea was crazy. I thought it was 2:04:57.800 --> 2:04:59.960 a great idea, so we bought it the slaughter house. 2:05:00.480 --> 2:05:02.440 They wasn't really super excited about it, but you could 2:05:02.480 --> 2:05:04.400 tell they was willing to work and do it. We 2:05:04.480 --> 2:05:07.000 all got on the call with Adrian and Ship. Adrian 2:05:07.040 --> 2:05:09.840 sent a couple of ideas. I rapped right on the 2:05:09.880 --> 2:05:11.600 ship sent it out to them, and they didn't move. 2:05:13.040 --> 2:05:16.720 When Crookett don't move immediately on something because he threw 2:05:16.880 --> 2:05:18.520 verses like that, you know what I'm saying. So if 2:05:18.520 --> 2:05:20.880 he ain't sent in the verse immediately, I know, okay, 2:05:20.920 --> 2:05:23.120 they're probably not that crazy about the idea. And how 2:05:23.120 --> 2:05:25.920 I work with slaughter houses this, if everybody is crazy 2:05:25.960 --> 2:05:28.560 about the idea, whatever were about to do is gonna 2:05:28.560 --> 2:05:33.120 be classic. If everybody just showing up to work, you 2:05:33.240 --> 2:05:35.400 never know how it's gonna turn out. So I just 2:05:35.480 --> 2:05:37.080 felt like I didn't want to ruin the idea. I 2:05:37.120 --> 2:05:39.400 didn't want to twist their arms and kind of like 2:05:39.520 --> 2:05:41.160 forced him to do some ship that they wouldn't really 2:05:41.280 --> 2:05:43.720 that into. Because I got I'm the dude in the group. 2:05:43.760 --> 2:05:45.720 We got the relationship with everybody. I can talk everybody 2:05:45.720 --> 2:05:47.960 in the group into doing whatever, you know what I'm saying. 2:05:48.040 --> 2:05:49.839 So I didn't want to put them in that position. 2:05:50.720 --> 2:05:53.720 So I took the idea to print what do you 2:05:53.800 --> 2:05:55.800 think about doing it? Because he was already open to 2:05:55.920 --> 2:05:58.400 do it for Slaughterhouse? What do you think about just 2:05:58.480 --> 2:06:02.800 me and you doing it? And he was like all right. 2:06:02.880 --> 2:06:04.920 So we started out just as idea as an EP 2:06:05.480 --> 2:06:10.400 and then we recorded like four songs and Keno was like, man, 2:06:10.440 --> 2:06:14.680 we we need more. You know what I'm saying. He 2:06:14.800 --> 2:06:17.120 was like, we need more. So I talked preim and 2:06:17.320 --> 2:06:19.440 doing a few more, and then eventually I got on 2:06:19.520 --> 2:06:20.760 the phone with him and was like, what if we 2:06:20.880 --> 2:06:23.800 just called ourselves something else besides just stej a Premier 2:06:23.880 --> 2:06:25.840 Royce to five nine. So that's when I was like, 2:06:25.880 --> 2:06:28.600 why don't we call ourselves Prim's make the PRR capital 2:06:29.160 --> 2:06:32.360 for Premium Royce and then prime you know what I'm 2:06:32.360 --> 2:06:33.920 saying that. He was just like all right, cool, and 2:06:34.000 --> 2:06:38.240 then from there were just a group okay, But then 2:06:42.120 --> 2:06:45.800 what happens this guys come out with Part one. People 2:06:45.960 --> 2:06:49.880 hear it, well, hip hops this understand what's going on 2:06:50.040 --> 2:06:52.640 a lot of people slept on it. But then you 2:06:52.760 --> 2:07:01.600 go upstairs the Master Flex Hot nineties seven and you 2:07:05.800 --> 2:07:09.800 but you're doing it's such a comfortable level. It's like 2:07:10.040 --> 2:07:13.360 I could look at it and say, that's a real m. See, 2:07:13.960 --> 2:07:15.320 like a lot of people would be like he she 2:07:15.520 --> 2:07:19.760 went this little thing. She was just like, you're looking 2:07:19.800 --> 2:07:23.160 at you just the way you You were just telling 2:07:23.280 --> 2:07:25.480 like you used to this, like this is what I do. 2:07:27.520 --> 2:07:33.440 But and it made me actually like, look at how 2:07:33.520 --> 2:07:36.040 many people started to respect you from that moment, as 2:07:36.120 --> 2:07:39.000 if you ain't been doing this for years. But there 2:07:39.080 --> 2:07:42.360 was so many people like y'all did you shep rice then? 2:07:42.760 --> 2:07:45.040 And I'm just like, damn, but how did you feel 2:07:45.040 --> 2:07:47.960 at that moment? Like I knew I wanted to do 2:07:48.120 --> 2:07:51.040 my best, you know what I'm saying, Like, and I 2:07:51.160 --> 2:07:53.240 got into it. I got to a point in my career, man, 2:07:53.280 --> 2:07:55.080 where I just start telling myself and like, I don't 2:07:55.120 --> 2:07:58.240 want to really do nothing else if I can't make 2:07:58.280 --> 2:08:00.520 an impact when I do it. So basically what I'm 2:08:00.560 --> 2:08:03.760 telling myself is do your best with no matter what 2:08:03.880 --> 2:08:06.280 you do, just put your best foot forward. So when 2:08:06.320 --> 2:08:10.000 Flex hit me about coming up there, which everybody had 2:08:10.040 --> 2:08:11.840 pretty much been spamming, I'm saying Yo, you need to 2:08:11.880 --> 2:08:14.120 get Royce up there. After Tarik did what he did, 2:08:14.120 --> 2:08:16.960 after Black Thought did what he did up it was like, 2:08:17.080 --> 2:08:19.200 it's not really too many other mcs you can call 2:08:19.880 --> 2:08:22.880 to go up there and do something even remotely close 2:08:22.920 --> 2:08:25.480 to the magnitude of what that man did. So he 2:08:25.640 --> 2:08:27.160 was just hitting me like, Yo, you know it's time. 2:08:27.200 --> 2:08:29.360 You know it's time. And I just kept telling him like, look, man, 2:08:29.960 --> 2:08:33.280 I'm gonna come up there when the time is right, 2:08:33.440 --> 2:08:34.920 you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm still working on 2:08:35.000 --> 2:08:36.880 an album, working on like a bunch of different things 2:08:36.920 --> 2:08:39.360 at the same time. I promise you, bro, as soon 2:08:39.400 --> 2:08:41.600 as I'm ready for rollout, I'm coming to see you, 2:08:41.720 --> 2:08:44.000 I promise you. And then, you know, when when I 2:08:44.200 --> 2:08:45.800 finally got done with the albums and I had a 2:08:45.880 --> 2:08:47.600 little bit of breathing room and I had some time 2:08:47.640 --> 2:08:50.760 to like memorize a few things, I was like, fucking 2:08:50.760 --> 2:08:53.680 I'm gonna go do it. What was it like ten 2:08:53.760 --> 2:09:04.120 minutes something like that. But mind you, the first time 2:09:04.320 --> 2:09:09.240 was successful. It was a successful yea, independent It wasn't. 2:09:09.280 --> 2:09:13.240 It wasn't like like the thing about it was the 2:09:13.360 --> 2:09:16.080 second if I felt like this is me personally just 2:09:16.200 --> 2:09:19.000 looking from the outside, there was I felt like from 2:09:19.080 --> 2:09:22.080 that freestyle on like it was like the industry went 2:09:22.240 --> 2:09:26.680 back and like rediscovered there that particularly discovery discography. It 2:09:26.880 --> 2:09:29.760 was like you know what, and then now brob Want 2:09:29.840 --> 2:09:31.920 is a classic. And now I'm just saying that this 2:09:32.040 --> 2:09:35.440 is just the way these fans are they from. Yeah, 2:09:35.480 --> 2:09:38.880 we we you know, we're speaking, we speaking. We're speaking 2:09:38.920 --> 2:09:43.680 to a whole different demographic of people, like different, they're different. 2:09:43.720 --> 2:09:46.600 Now you're speaking to people that want beats and rhymes, 2:09:46.920 --> 2:09:51.680 and unfortunately those people are not at the forefront. The forefront. 2:09:51.720 --> 2:09:54.960 People want to do the name they yeah, they want 2:09:54.960 --> 2:09:58.480 to just say they want to do was that dance? 2:10:01.240 --> 2:10:06.720 What was that? I wasn't listening to this Yeah yeah, 2:10:07.480 --> 2:10:10.080 yeah I was. I can't do this, ship man, whatever 2:10:10.160 --> 2:10:19.320 you do, I can't do it. I'm I was up. Yeah, 2:10:19.560 --> 2:10:22.280 what I'm saying, it's a different generation, man, this is 2:10:22.320 --> 2:10:28.040 a different generation. But um, what did you love? All right? Um? 2:10:28.560 --> 2:10:30.920 What do you love about the new generation? Like I 2:10:31.240 --> 2:10:34.200 heard you big up Big Sean. I like that, you know, um, 2:10:34.480 --> 2:10:38.280 you know you're being the older G from Detroit at 2:10:38.360 --> 2:10:40.800 him being a younger G from Detroit, And I love 2:10:40.880 --> 2:10:42.320 with Big Sean is doing. Me and him had a 2:10:42.400 --> 2:10:45.880 little crazy ship. But if you know, I'm done, We're done. 2:10:46.240 --> 2:10:49.880 We saw each other. But um, but I like the 2:10:50.040 --> 2:10:54.640 fact that you co signed your younger generation. Why isn't 2:10:54.720 --> 2:10:57.160 that more of that happening in the hip hop where 2:10:57.200 --> 2:11:00.360 people just see their their younger geez and say, you 2:11:00.400 --> 2:11:02.440 know what, I'm a I'm a big big that up 2:11:04.280 --> 2:11:08.160 me personally, man, I learned. I learned how important it 2:11:08.280 --> 2:11:14.240 is so um to get support from your peers, you know, 2:11:14.520 --> 2:11:17.040 like this, the few the few people that supported me 2:11:17.120 --> 2:11:21.000 when I was young, like the way it affected me. 2:11:21.080 --> 2:11:24.960 It spoke abundantly to me, Like Bumby did that. He 2:11:25.040 --> 2:11:27.200 called me out of nowhere. I never met him before. 2:11:28.080 --> 2:11:29.800 I just I was it was way back in the day. 2:11:29.800 --> 2:11:32.560 I was like releasing freestyles and ship online and it 2:11:32.680 --> 2:11:34.280 was kind of like tearing it up, you know what 2:11:34.320 --> 2:11:37.400 I'm saying. And he called me Mr Porter hit me 2:11:37.600 --> 2:11:40.560 was like, yo, Bumby is looking for you. So I'm like, oh, ship. 2:11:40.680 --> 2:11:42.120 So I get on the phone with Bunn and Bun 2:11:42.320 --> 2:11:44.800 is basically like, look, I don't want nothing. I'll just 2:11:44.880 --> 2:11:47.280 call him to let you know that you're doing good 2:11:47.320 --> 2:11:50.000 out there. So whatever you're doing Just keep doing that 2:11:50.120 --> 2:11:52.600 and you're gonna be all right right there, he said. 2:11:53.080 --> 2:11:55.120 He said, if you ever need anything for me, this 2:11:55.320 --> 2:11:57.160 is my number. And I just want you to know 2:11:57.280 --> 2:11:58.720 that I support you and I want you to keep 2:11:58.720 --> 2:12:02.320 doing what you're doing. And that ship, like y'all took 2:12:02.360 --> 2:12:03.880 a page from his book and was like, Yo, this 2:12:04.000 --> 2:12:06.120 is how I want to be. So when I started 2:12:06.120 --> 2:12:08.280 getting a little bit up there in age and the 2:12:08.400 --> 2:12:10.520 younger artists, I wanted to be viewed by them as 2:12:10.640 --> 2:12:13.320 that I don't want to be. This just looked at 2:12:13.400 --> 2:12:15.280 is this old bider guy who got a problem with 2:12:15.440 --> 2:12:17.320 not being able to have alarm light all the time. 2:12:17.360 --> 2:12:19.680 You can't. I can't let go of what he used 2:12:19.720 --> 2:12:22.320 to be or what he his capabilities could have been. 2:12:22.800 --> 2:12:25.440 You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm really happy with 2:12:25.600 --> 2:12:27.960 my journey and I want to I wanna I want to. 2:12:28.120 --> 2:12:30.320 I want the way that I moved and my energy 2:12:30.400 --> 2:12:32.800 to reflect that ship. You know what I'm saying. When 2:12:32.840 --> 2:12:34.560 I was when I was talking a bun, I felt 2:12:34.600 --> 2:12:36.480 like I was talking to a nigger who was comfortable 2:12:36.520 --> 2:12:38.960 in his skin. You know what I'm saying, Like, that's 2:12:39.000 --> 2:12:40.720 what success is to me. You know what I'm saying. 2:12:40.920 --> 2:12:44.040 So that's why he shows big. That's one of the reasons. 2:12:44.120 --> 2:12:47.400 And then you know, like Detroit is we always lack unity, 2:12:47.720 --> 2:12:49.960 you know what I mean. So everything that happened, yeah, 2:12:50.000 --> 2:12:52.080 every everything that happened with me and detwelve and ship 2:12:52.240 --> 2:12:54.400 like that, and how it affected me and M's personal 2:12:54.440 --> 2:12:58.480 relationship and how it affected our success and the way 2:12:58.560 --> 2:13:03.080 we reviewed. Feel like every generation that came after us 2:13:03.160 --> 2:13:05.200 needs to look at us, what came out of it, 2:13:05.960 --> 2:13:07.800 Look at us. What can you learn from it? How 2:13:07.880 --> 2:13:09.560 can we make the city better, How can we do 2:13:09.680 --> 2:13:11.960 better as a city, And how can you do better 2:13:12.040 --> 2:13:14.160 as an artist? When your city is in the know 2:13:14.320 --> 2:13:16.440 as well? Like in the city, when your city knows 2:13:16.520 --> 2:13:18.520 how to do better, you'll do better, you know what 2:13:18.600 --> 2:13:20.960 I mean. So we got to support each other, you 2:13:21.000 --> 2:13:23.240 know what I mean. Like that's just part of it. 2:13:23.280 --> 2:13:25.920 And even you look at like the way Miami, you know, 2:13:26.000 --> 2:13:28.440 when Miami came together and they you know, Calid had 2:13:28.480 --> 2:13:31.120 everybody on records at the same time, and he was 2:13:31.200 --> 2:13:33.640 pushing unity and ship like that, and how much it 2:13:33.800 --> 2:13:36.360 helped the culture, how much it helped Miami is a 2:13:36.400 --> 2:13:41.760 city and little she from from Detroit So what happened 2:13:42.080 --> 2:13:45.520 because recently I've seen that the city of Detroit gave 2:13:45.720 --> 2:13:50.960 Cardi B. Yeah, the Detroit Citizen of the Year water, 2:13:51.120 --> 2:13:54.040 So what was it? It gave her Citizen of the 2:13:54.160 --> 2:13:57.800 year like that they gave her. I'm one point one point. 2:13:58.280 --> 2:14:02.800 They gave her what on my point? Where talking about 2:14:02.840 --> 2:14:04.680 look at this, let me look at little I can't 2:14:04.680 --> 2:14:07.760 remember the name of the world. It was like it 2:14:07.880 --> 2:14:11.400 was like it was like the Detroit. It was a 2:14:11.480 --> 2:14:13.600 Detroit a war. Like if you ain't from Detroit, you 2:14:13.840 --> 2:14:17.440 you ain't. You shouldn't witness spirited Detroit. Spirited Detroit. I'm 2:14:17.520 --> 2:14:21.200 fucking that's that's damn the same thing. Yeah, you gotta 2:14:21.240 --> 2:14:24.560 be from the mode motherfucking city, but she's not. And 2:14:24.640 --> 2:14:27.160 I love Let me just go this out there. I 2:14:27.400 --> 2:14:32.680 love Cardi being Cardi B. As my sister graduates album. 2:14:35.160 --> 2:14:38.640 Were looking at Cardi bees first time she was ever 2:14:38.800 --> 2:14:42.400 on screen. You can look at the Towel Down video 2:14:42.520 --> 2:14:45.000 if you want to revote TV. Right now, we will 2:14:45.000 --> 2:14:48.200 be playing a clip of the Towel Down video featuring 2:14:48.280 --> 2:14:52.320 Normy feature in French Montana when push your Tea and 2:14:52.560 --> 2:14:56.720 two chains and Cardi B is actually in my video 2:14:57.160 --> 2:14:59.120 the first time you ever see it. So I love 2:14:59.200 --> 2:15:01.160 the ship out of So this is this is not 2:15:01.280 --> 2:15:05.200 what I'm saying. But Cardi B did get the actual 2:15:05.440 --> 2:15:09.200 spirit of Spirit of Detroit Awards. And what happened was 2:15:09.600 --> 2:15:13.200 the city of Detroit ropted. They really didn't like that. 2:15:13.680 --> 2:15:16.520 And as much of a support I am a Cardi 2:15:16.560 --> 2:15:19.320 Bill as much I love it, I felt like just 2:15:19.480 --> 2:15:22.840 the Detroit I did understood it because Detroit. Let's just 2:15:22.920 --> 2:15:25.280 be clear, it should have went to a person from Detroit. 2:15:25.360 --> 2:15:28.120 If it's a Detroit spirit, Yes, it's the mind frame. 2:15:28.880 --> 2:15:30.960 It's the mind frame of the people in Detroit, like 2:15:31.080 --> 2:15:33.120 some of the people in Detroit. That has to change 2:15:34.080 --> 2:15:36.400 before we could like really get to where we need 2:15:36.480 --> 2:15:39.360 to be as a city. Not individually. You know, I'm 2:15:39.400 --> 2:15:41.920 gonna always achieve whatever I'm gonna achieve his Roice, you 2:15:41.960 --> 2:15:43.840 know what I mean. But just us as a city, 2:15:44.480 --> 2:15:46.839 you know, we got the whole Detroit versus Everybody movement. 2:15:47.520 --> 2:15:48.880 And like I was saying on that clip that I 2:15:48.960 --> 2:15:51.560 put on my Instagram, until everybody is in the right 2:15:51.640 --> 2:15:53.920 mind frame, those are just letters on the on the shirt. 2:15:54.640 --> 2:15:57.360 It don't really mean nothing. If we're not kind of 2:15:57.440 --> 2:15:59.280 like standing by, like if you if you want to 2:15:59.320 --> 2:16:01.880 just look at it for what it is. None of 2:16:01.920 --> 2:16:04.960 these awards really mean anything, you know what I mean, 2:16:05.080 --> 2:16:09.600 So it's like you're giving it the CARDI b. I'm 2:16:09.640 --> 2:16:13.400 sure there's people in Detroit whom are deserving of it, 2:16:14.680 --> 2:16:19.240 and they can somehow help boost their confidence into doing 2:16:19.320 --> 2:16:24.560 something else. The whole city. It's the perfect word. The morale. 2:16:24.760 --> 2:16:26.680 The morale is low in Detroit. That's what That's what 2:16:26.800 --> 2:16:30.120 we're missing. So little things like that, looking out for 2:16:30.280 --> 2:16:32.480 our own first like other cities do, looking out for 2:16:32.520 --> 2:16:34.520 our own first, will help boost the morale and out 2:16:34.560 --> 2:16:36.120 of help get us what we need to see. I 2:16:36.240 --> 2:16:38.520 understood why they gave it a ward, because what they're 2:16:38.520 --> 2:16:40.760 trying to say it's just coming from nothing and making 2:16:40.840 --> 2:16:43.800 something out of it. But I also understood you guys 2:16:43.879 --> 2:16:46.560 stance when he was like yo, you know, because you guys, 2:16:47.080 --> 2:16:55.880 these guys, but they were just like, you know what, 2:16:56.400 --> 2:17:00.440 dis awards should have stayed in Detroit to Troit. That's 2:17:01.560 --> 2:17:04.840 the award is own let her own city. Sheree deserves 2:17:04.879 --> 2:17:06.320 to be the spirit of New York. Let her get 2:17:06.440 --> 2:17:08.480 let me. That's what I'm saying, Like it's the title. 2:17:08.560 --> 2:17:11.240 That doesn't make really sense. Now, worts what kind of 2:17:11.320 --> 2:17:16.000 watches that? Okay, I thought that was a blow because 2:17:16.480 --> 2:17:18.840 because that's a Gucci jacket. That's correct. You guys are 2:17:18.879 --> 2:17:23.760 talking man rich world coming, very rich, come all right, 2:17:24.160 --> 2:17:27.040 very rich over. Thank you. Yeah, man, I'm gonna be honest. 2:17:29.520 --> 2:17:31.840 You got the post. He was like the first nigga 2:17:32.360 --> 2:17:35.240 that had the Panamera. I'm gonna be honest. No, I 2:17:35.360 --> 2:17:38.160 was the first nigga with to CE seven vet see um. 2:17:38.840 --> 2:17:42.040 I don't even know what that is. Corvette Corvette, Corvette 2:17:42.440 --> 2:17:44.720 see seven when they first changed the body type. Okay, 2:17:45.120 --> 2:17:47.440 so I got mine, and you know every that's a 2:17:47.560 --> 2:17:49.720 white boy call just throwing it out. Not Detroit, No, 2:17:51.200 --> 2:17:58.040 not from New Yorker, I don't care. So all right, cool, 2:17:58.120 --> 2:18:01.039 So because I'm from Detroit, this is one time we're 2:18:01.080 --> 2:18:04.800 being from Detroit. Worked in my favorite one time. So 2:18:05.040 --> 2:18:07.040 since we don't have a lot of celebrities in Detroit, 2:18:07.400 --> 2:18:09.840 we got this list that you can get on. So 2:18:10.000 --> 2:18:12.160 just dude to on this Ferrari dealership who I'm cool with. 2:18:12.680 --> 2:18:15.680 He got me on this list where he was like, 2:18:15.760 --> 2:18:17.400 if you was on this list and Callie, you would 2:18:17.440 --> 2:18:19.040 be on the list with like Robert de Niro and 2:18:19.120 --> 2:18:22.600 names like that. So I got like the fifth Corvette 2:18:22.680 --> 2:18:24.760 off the assembly line, so I was like the first. 2:18:24.800 --> 2:18:27.040 I was. I had it before anybody could even lease it. 2:18:28.879 --> 2:18:31.240 I was the first one. Just like how you say 2:18:31.320 --> 2:18:33.920 with these glasses. I was driving it because I had 2:18:34.000 --> 2:18:35.680 rigs on it before anybody even seen it. So I 2:18:35.760 --> 2:18:37.640 was I was driving that. People thought it was a 2:18:37.680 --> 2:18:39.240 Ferrari that was putting up next to me, like Yo, 2:18:39.280 --> 2:18:41.560 what the fund is that? It's a Corvette. It's called 2:18:41.560 --> 2:18:44.120 a C seven. So I just think everybody should know 2:18:44.120 --> 2:18:45.440 that I was the first. You killed it. I'm going 2:18:45.440 --> 2:18:48.400 on my car deal on top and we're like, yo, 2:18:48.440 --> 2:18:54.720 what the fun is going on? Yeah? Yeah, yeah makes 2:18:54.760 --> 2:19:05.160 a soil roye. Yes, sir. Hip hop it started out 2:19:05.200 --> 2:19:11.359 in the park. M hm. You've seen every fucking shape 2:19:11.400 --> 2:19:14.440 of hip hop. You've seen it. You see from where 2:19:14.440 --> 2:19:19.440 it is now, you see from where it's going. What's 2:19:19.480 --> 2:19:22.640 your favorite part of hip hop? My favorite part of it? 2:19:23.959 --> 2:19:28.600 It doesn't matter anything, you mean, when you break down 2:19:28.720 --> 2:19:31.640 like rapping, graffiti, break dance and ship like that, it 2:19:31.720 --> 2:19:34.080 don't even it don't even matter. Yeah, I think that. 2:19:34.160 --> 2:19:36.800 I think bars is always gonna be my favorite no 2:19:36.920 --> 2:19:41.040 matter no matter what my ages, I never grow out 2:19:41.120 --> 2:19:45.360 of dope. Bars bars are like that's that's like my 2:19:45.480 --> 2:19:49.160 favorite component. That's why you know, like to me, bars 2:19:49.320 --> 2:19:52.840 is like technique. It's what you're saying, but it's also 2:19:52.879 --> 2:19:55.560 the technique is to flow. That's why I prefer M's 2:19:55.600 --> 2:19:59.600 renegade versus over holes. I relate to homes more you 2:19:59.760 --> 2:20:04.720 just him a technical standpoint. I prefer M because how 2:20:04.800 --> 2:20:06.360 I fell in love with hip hop, you know, like 2:20:06.480 --> 2:20:08.480 I fell in love with the cadences and the technique 2:20:08.560 --> 2:20:10.360 somebody coming with a new voice, Like when Snoop came 2:20:10.400 --> 2:20:13.680 out with that fucking voice doggy style, I mean, should 2:20:13.680 --> 2:20:18.320 he change that change? Yeah? He was like we all 2:20:18.400 --> 2:20:23.160 like it was something brand Yeah. So that's my favorite 2:20:23.160 --> 2:20:27.280 aspect of it, you know, like something new with styles Drake. 2:20:27.360 --> 2:20:29.240 Drake is real dope with that man like coming with 2:20:29.360 --> 2:20:31.560 like new flows and ship I think gets you kind 2:20:31.600 --> 2:20:35.240 of back excited about Dan. But I'm not standing up 2:20:35.240 --> 2:20:42.640 the stage. He's he's something else beyond an MC after that, 2:20:42.920 --> 2:20:45.840 Like he's he definitely could spit and he can make 2:20:46.000 --> 2:20:52.360 songs altogether. What I'm saying, so word the greatest Box 2:20:52.480 --> 2:20:56.199 up all times. I'm gonna go with Sugar Ray Robinson 2:20:56.280 --> 2:21:02.640 without even thinking Sugar Ray Robinson killed a man in 2:21:02.680 --> 2:21:06.440 the ring. Who you got he killed somebody in the ring? Yeah. See. 2:21:06.760 --> 2:21:10.160 And I'm disagreeing with you, not because I think you're wrong. 2:21:11.080 --> 2:21:13.280 I'm disagreeing with you because I just want to base 2:21:13.520 --> 2:21:16.240 the greatest box of all time for all the fights 2:21:16.320 --> 2:21:19.120 that I've seen in my own eyes. Okay, so this 2:21:19.240 --> 2:21:22.000 is the reason why I don't pick Ali. I picked 2:21:22.040 --> 2:21:25.840 Floyd Maywell. That's the greatest of all time in my opinion, Okay, 2:21:27.000 --> 2:21:31.080 because I've seen all his fights, like all the Allies fights, 2:21:31.640 --> 2:21:35.080 I probably seen them. But if I wasn't alive to 2:21:35.200 --> 2:21:37.680 see someone live through those moments, I didn't live. So 2:21:37.879 --> 2:21:42.240 I can't feel like like I lived through Tyson's all 2:21:42.440 --> 2:21:45.000 the Tyson's moments, but I also lived through all the 2:21:45.080 --> 2:21:51.359 Tyson's just you know, he's down, so I can't technically 2:21:51.560 --> 2:21:57.119 root for him. I love him, but Floyd, I felt 2:21:57.160 --> 2:22:01.080 like I grew up with him. We went through puberty 2:22:01.160 --> 2:22:07.360 together and then we actually was grown people together, and 2:22:07.640 --> 2:22:11.360 he hasn't disappointed me. I do not want him to 2:22:11.480 --> 2:22:15.160 go to have one fight in the UFC. Do not. 2:22:17.080 --> 2:22:18.720 If if that they could do that, I might cry. 2:22:19.320 --> 2:22:26.120 Listen to me, I do not. I don't think he's 2:22:26.160 --> 2:22:32.320 gonna do it what I didn't. He might be one 2:22:32.360 --> 2:22:41.560 more seven, not one Floyd to ever fight you f C. 2:22:41.879 --> 2:22:44.360 I think it might be trolling. Man. We won. Were 2:22:44.440 --> 2:22:48.400 from the boxing community. They came into our world one time. 2:22:48.840 --> 2:22:51.360 We won. Let's get our one and done and that's it. 2:22:52.600 --> 2:22:54.840 Like I used to play handball, I'll beat your handball once. 2:22:54.879 --> 2:22:57.480 So let's sit and whatever. That's it. You won't get 2:22:57.560 --> 2:23:01.920 a remac. I got a gun. What do you want 2:23:01.959 --> 2:23:03.480 to do from here? They're gonna try and hurt that 2:23:03.560 --> 2:23:05.200 boy over there if you go. I'm trying to tell 2:23:05.240 --> 2:23:07.760 it because it's not gonna be McGregor. McGregor is a 2:23:07.879 --> 2:23:11.080 thumb now. He threw ship at these other people, so 2:23:11.200 --> 2:23:13.160 it's not gonna be with Greg's some other day that's 2:23:13.240 --> 2:23:18.360 focused that don't want pussy, right, and that's gonna go 2:23:18.440 --> 2:23:22.120 on the ring. You're gonna kick the ship and I 2:23:22.160 --> 2:23:24.800 don't want that. That's an l for boxing. Man. We 2:23:24.840 --> 2:23:28.720 can't take that. We can't tell you. So, so me 2:23:28.800 --> 2:23:31.160 and you are green, we agree, But your greatest of 2:23:31.160 --> 2:23:34.800 all time. That's Sugar Ray, Sugar Ray Robinson, Robinson, I 2:23:34.840 --> 2:23:37.480 mean boxing, it's a lot like it's a lot like 2:23:37.600 --> 2:23:39.440 hip hop. Man, that s got to be. Don't watch 2:23:39.480 --> 2:23:41.160 a lot of hip hop because you have mad people 2:23:41.280 --> 2:23:43.600 hype you up. But when you actually go on that booth, 2:23:43.680 --> 2:23:50.520 it's only you that's okay, Joshua or Wilder man easily. 2:23:50.560 --> 2:23:54.360 I'm picking Wilder easy, easy work. I knew men you 2:23:54.400 --> 2:23:59.560 get along. I knew that's easy work. That's easier Anthony 2:23:59.640 --> 2:24:02.720 josh with Anthony josh easy work, though, that's easy work. No, 2:24:03.040 --> 2:24:05.840 I can't say this easy work, easy work. Joshua is 2:24:06.000 --> 2:24:09.640 hitting hard. Listen, listen, this ain't no knock on Joshua's 2:24:09.640 --> 2:24:14.160 punching power. Bro Please Deontay Wilder, Deontay Wilder, gotta hear 2:24:14.240 --> 2:24:17.960 that guy. He got a different kind of make He 2:24:18.080 --> 2:24:21.000 make a lot of mistakes, but so do Anthony Joshua. 2:24:21.480 --> 2:24:24.400 They both make a lot of technical boxer mistakes. But 2:24:24.560 --> 2:24:27.200 Deontay got a fire in him. Okay, what was the 2:24:27.280 --> 2:24:33.560 last fight on Wilder? Hat um? He just would you 2:24:33.640 --> 2:24:36.200 see there was a couple of mistakes that Wilder made. 2:24:36.360 --> 2:24:38.640 Louise or Chiz is a better boxing you're a better 2:24:38.680 --> 2:24:42.560 boxing But but the mistakes that Wilder made, could it 2:24:42.600 --> 2:24:48.439 be detrimental to to Joshua because josh was very technical. 2:24:49.200 --> 2:24:52.680 Just keep it real. Look, he's not Ortiz. Like if 2:24:52.720 --> 2:24:55.000 he would have made those mistakes with Joshua, it might 2:24:55.080 --> 2:24:57.640 have it might have cost him. I'm just keeping it real. 2:24:57.760 --> 2:25:03.160 Like Deontay want to win, man, he got it. That's 2:25:03.480 --> 2:25:06.320 the day. At the end of the day, I'm they 2:25:06.640 --> 2:25:08.760 make it the way the way that the state that 2:25:08.800 --> 2:25:11.240 the heavyweight division is in, it makes you focus on 2:25:11.360 --> 2:25:14.400 what I'm saying. Like they both they both make they 2:25:14.480 --> 2:25:16.480 both make mistakes. It's not gonna come down to who 2:25:16.520 --> 2:25:19.160 the better boxing. It's gonna come down to who land first, 2:25:19.879 --> 2:25:23.080 who wanted more. But Deante got a right hand that 2:25:23.240 --> 2:25:25.840 we have not seen in boxing probably since Tommy Hearns. 2:25:26.280 --> 2:25:28.880 And they end in the heavyweight division. But and this 2:25:29.040 --> 2:25:33.119 is the UK's first actual champion and its first actually 2:25:33.240 --> 2:25:37.320 black champion take a champaign. There's something about that. They 2:25:37.360 --> 2:25:40.280 are eighty thousand deep at his fucking They can't fight 2:25:40.360 --> 2:25:42.720 for him, they can't fight for him. But but but Royce, 2:25:42.800 --> 2:25:47.680 let's just be clear, that's something that's crazy because Joshua 2:25:47.800 --> 2:25:51.960 can actually say I'll fight you, but in London. You 2:25:52.160 --> 2:25:54.320 beat him in London. But what I'm trying to say 2:25:54.480 --> 2:25:58.120 is we don't actually know that feeling when everybody is 2:25:58.160 --> 2:26:01.880 coming out boying, you get how to performing that. I 2:26:01.920 --> 2:26:05.800 mean as artists, as artists, unless we have real beef 2:26:05.879 --> 2:26:09.080 with somebody, like you can't go to Poland and these 2:26:09.200 --> 2:26:13.560 the whole Poland buoy you. Yeah, he got this fight happens. 2:26:13.959 --> 2:26:16.959 And I'm just talking about because because Wilder, because Wilder 2:26:17.560 --> 2:26:21.680 is young. Still, let's just be clear, like how old 2:26:21.720 --> 2:26:24.520 are you don't have to answer that I'm forty two, 2:26:24.840 --> 2:26:30.840 I'm not forty. I'm forty and I'm forty. That's but 2:26:31.000 --> 2:26:33.720 what I'm saying is as a person that's twenty seven, 2:26:33.920 --> 2:26:36.320 I'm not saying that said I don't even know the age. 2:26:36.959 --> 2:26:41.000 But we all think we mature. You don't really mature. 2:26:41.040 --> 2:26:44.680 On to thirty five. Thirty five is after that you're like, man, 2:26:45.760 --> 2:26:48.800 fun everything, I'm want to go to costcos today. This 2:26:48.959 --> 2:26:51.880 is the thirty five. You actually have to get hit 2:26:51.959 --> 2:26:59.879 that thirty five. Everybody here thirty five. It looks like yeah, okay, alright, 2:27:00.240 --> 2:27:03.000 good look you're not You're in the Costles days. All right, 2:27:03.680 --> 2:27:05.720 so when you're a thirty file, you're a cop. But 2:27:06.920 --> 2:27:10.320 what I'm trying to say is I think that Josh 2:27:11.520 --> 2:27:20.920 who he was born in I gotta take my story back. Then, 2:27:21.560 --> 2:27:23.920 I don't understand what I was trying to go. I 2:27:23.959 --> 2:27:28.160 thought he was twenty five, he's not. He's on the team. 2:27:28.320 --> 2:27:31.120 And then wasn't Anthony Josh ahead google that Now you 2:27:31.280 --> 2:27:34.320 might be Josh was only like he only like twenty 2:27:34.440 --> 2:27:43.360 oh right, yeah, no, he a beast Anthony josh with 2:27:43.440 --> 2:27:45.480 a beast man. Please don't think that. I'm not saying that. 2:27:46.280 --> 2:27:53.080 But Deonte just recently want to fight. But I didn't 2:27:53.120 --> 2:27:54.560 watch that fight because I knew he was gonna win. 2:27:54.560 --> 2:27:58.040 As I knew he's gonna win it, did you? Yeah, 2:27:58.080 --> 2:28:01.440 of course? Okay, it's the fight we're talking about, the 2:28:01.520 --> 2:28:05.520 Joseph Parker fight, right Okay, oh yeah, they ain't that 2:28:06.840 --> 2:28:12.879 after there was much you though, there's much more yellow 2:28:13.000 --> 2:28:16.760 though they don't much the other four years of wal 2:28:17.320 --> 2:28:20.600 So now we're going on a while. Though Wilder bro 2:28:21.120 --> 2:28:24.080 against the Joshua, of course, I think he's gonna he's 2:28:24.080 --> 2:28:28.800 gonna stop him. Cannello just got caught. What did he 2:28:28.840 --> 2:28:31.160 get called for Rice. He was taking some ship called 2:28:31.200 --> 2:28:36.280 cli clim Bauteral. It disappoints me, Rice, Yeah, mom my mom. 2:28:36.400 --> 2:28:39.879 The only cool we we were boxing fans. I'll look 2:28:39.959 --> 2:28:42.039 at your Twitter feed and this is that's how. That's 2:28:42.040 --> 2:28:44.360 how I know your real boxing thinking. I was looking 2:28:44.400 --> 2:28:48.280 at Twitter freedom like this Nickels saying everything. I don't know. 2:28:49.160 --> 2:28:54.240 Are you not disappointed of Cannello? Some ship called cli 2:28:54.480 --> 2:28:58.480 clim Bauteral steroid. I don't even want to try to 2:28:58.560 --> 2:29:01.320 impeat what that's calls. It's some kind of steroid. I 2:29:01.360 --> 2:29:05.480 don't know exactly what it does. But twice, Yeah, man, 2:29:05.520 --> 2:29:09.000 I was disappointed. I was disappointed. Go over twice the fighter. 2:29:09.440 --> 2:29:14.480 They're not fighting now. They just canceled it. Fu he 2:29:14.560 --> 2:29:18.520 suspended Canello like one of my favorite fighters too. Yeah. 2:29:20.440 --> 2:29:27.240 Am how you say how you saying this Spanish call 2:29:27.320 --> 2:29:33.520 them that's buddy. How How disappointed was you? I'm disappointed. 2:29:33.560 --> 2:29:34.880 I mean, that's like one of the only fights that 2:29:34.959 --> 2:29:38.560 I really want to I want not a little besides, 2:29:38.680 --> 2:29:43.560 you know, like Spence Verse Crawford. You got Spence versus Crawford, 2:29:44.320 --> 2:29:49.320 My home girl, Spence Spence Girl Spence Verse. In my opinion, 2:29:49.480 --> 2:29:54.320 the new may Weather. He's the main Weather. Don't play around. Well. 2:29:54.360 --> 2:29:57.320 I think Tarance Crawford is the new Mayweather. I think 2:29:57.480 --> 2:30:02.560 Terrice Crawford is a beast here beast too. That's my 2:30:02.640 --> 2:30:09.080 guy guy as well. But each other Charon's Cowford is 2:30:09.120 --> 2:30:13.240 fighting who well I'm saying, I'm just talking about the pass. No, no, no, 2:30:13.400 --> 2:30:14.800 I'm sorry. I don't want I don't want people to 2:30:14.840 --> 2:30:17.400 think that. No, that's not happening yet. But you know, 2:30:17.560 --> 2:30:19.400 like when you look at every division, you see what 2:30:19.560 --> 2:30:21.680 the super fighter that movie I was supposed to be. 2:30:22.360 --> 2:30:24.280 So sometime in the future, that fight is gonna have 2:30:24.360 --> 2:30:27.480 to happen. They can't avoid each other because they they 2:30:27.600 --> 2:30:30.120 movements are too powerful. They running through everything moving, you 2:30:30.160 --> 2:30:32.199 know what I'm saying. And it's the same with Canelo, 2:30:32.240 --> 2:30:36.680 Triple G, Wilder, Joshua, those are like everything that's happening 2:30:36.720 --> 2:30:39.240 in these divisions are leading up to these fights. So 2:30:39.920 --> 2:30:42.280 and especially with how good the Canelo the Triple G 2:30:42.440 --> 2:30:45.360 first fight was, It's like, yo, bro, you just funked 2:30:45.400 --> 2:30:48.600 up the opportunity. Who did you think won that fight? 2:30:48.720 --> 2:30:50.840 In the opinion, I gave it to get I gave 2:30:50.879 --> 2:30:52.880 it the Triple G I gave it a triple g. 2:30:53.680 --> 2:30:56.960 I gave I gave it a triple I'm not. I 2:30:57.120 --> 2:31:00.880 was rooting for Cannelo though. I If they fighting, it's 2:31:00.879 --> 2:31:03.480 not rude for nobody. If they fight again, Canella's gonna 2:31:03.480 --> 2:31:08.840 stop him. He's gonna stop him, stop him if they fight. 2:31:09.040 --> 2:31:12.880 If they fight again, I'm on that, I think. And 2:31:12.959 --> 2:31:16.280 then now that so, now, are you familiar with the 2:31:16.400 --> 2:31:18.560 steroid that they saying that they caught him with. I 2:31:18.680 --> 2:31:20.680 heard of it before. I'm not. I'm not familiar with 2:31:22.760 --> 2:31:25.880 because the weed, because they do put steroids in the meat, 2:31:25.959 --> 2:31:29.960 so that's a valid Yeah, that's a that's an excuse 2:31:30.320 --> 2:31:32.320 they got cold. He got cold it twice. So yeah, 2:31:33.440 --> 2:31:36.840 heats a lot of them. He eats a lot of meat. 2:31:38.200 --> 2:31:41.800 That was you're gonna say, if one's this is a 2:31:41.920 --> 2:31:48.240 poss friendly podcast, you can say pausing, No, I just 2:31:48.320 --> 2:31:51.039 really want to know, because I don't want to It's 2:31:51.080 --> 2:31:53.920 like when somebody calls somebody a snitch. People call people 2:31:53.920 --> 2:31:57.640 a snitch and they don't have no fucking you know, 2:31:58.360 --> 2:31:59.959 like back in the days, you can't call him by 2:32:00.000 --> 2:32:02.320 that you out of the paperwork. You have to show 2:32:02.400 --> 2:32:04.720 these people this is what these snitch is the days 2:32:04.760 --> 2:32:08.320 snitch is obviously snitch too, But now there's anybody who 2:32:08.400 --> 2:32:11.560 said anybody's a snitch and everybody has to looking on it. 2:32:12.320 --> 2:32:14.760 So when you say that, I think they have the 2:32:14.879 --> 2:32:19.200 actual information for sure. As I said, he's a lot 2:32:19.280 --> 2:32:22.520 of meat. Yeah. No, I'm not saying plar. I'm saying 2:32:22.840 --> 2:32:27.240 to the people like, if cano is that, show me 2:32:27.959 --> 2:32:31.240 what it is. Obviously it has to be something real 2:32:31.360 --> 2:32:33.480 because they say this is the second time they caught 2:32:33.560 --> 2:32:37.080 him with Yeah, I mean it's from what I hear, 2:32:37.760 --> 2:32:39.959 like just looking at interviews from guys like Freddie Roach 2:32:40.000 --> 2:32:43.720 and Ship, they're basically saying that that's always their excuse, 2:32:43.800 --> 2:32:45.560 like the Mexican fighters and ship like that, when they 2:32:45.600 --> 2:32:48.400 get caught doing something, they always they got their excuse 2:32:48.440 --> 2:32:50.560 ready already. So I don't know if he really was 2:32:50.640 --> 2:32:52.320 doing it or not. I just know that ship don't 2:32:52.360 --> 2:32:58.640 look good. I suspended happening. Um what happened? Um? But 2:32:58.800 --> 2:33:03.760 the guy who had to the ship dude die? Oh 2:33:03.920 --> 2:33:09.080 that was they did, like uh not and prior not 2:33:09.680 --> 2:33:12.200 and prior yeah they said he was, but do you 2:33:12.240 --> 2:33:15.800 talk about when he fought a lection he didn't die 2:33:15.840 --> 2:33:20.560 though he didn't die of him. Yeah, he stood out 2:33:21.040 --> 2:33:24.080 and he had he had the ship on this. They 2:33:24.160 --> 2:33:26.040 was accusing them and taking something. They were saying it 2:33:26.120 --> 2:33:30.120 was something they caught. They caught some audio from the 2:33:30.160 --> 2:33:34.880 actual audio says, give the take this bottle, the other bottle, 2:33:34.920 --> 2:33:36.879 give me the other bottle is a real box of Yeah, 2:33:36.879 --> 2:33:38.520 they gave him, They gave him that bottle. He drank 2:33:38.560 --> 2:33:40.440 out of that bottom because he just came out the 2:33:40.520 --> 2:33:41.879 round and he was tired. But then when he gave 2:33:41.959 --> 2:33:45.600 him a special bottle, he came out smack into energy 2:33:45.640 --> 2:33:47.480 and he just came out and just so what that 2:33:47.560 --> 2:33:51.879 bottle have we don't know, We don't know to It's 2:33:51.920 --> 2:34:00.720 like the olive you time to really also minds the 2:34:00.840 --> 2:34:06.560 muscle cells and muscle proteins ands, which is why I 2:34:06.600 --> 2:34:15.000 also sounds like a great energy drink. Not to be confused, 2:34:15.640 --> 2:34:27.240 of course, it sounds fantastically horrible. So the boxing generation, 2:34:28.000 --> 2:34:32.240 what do you see it going from there? Um, First 2:34:32.240 --> 2:34:34.280 of all, I think boxing is in a great place 2:34:34.400 --> 2:34:37.320 right now. First off, I just want you to cut 2:34:37.400 --> 2:34:40.160 you off. And we have a podcast called a Drink 2:34:40.240 --> 2:34:43.600 Champions Network, and we would like you to be our 2:34:43.720 --> 2:34:47.960 boxing podcasts like for real we want you to be, 2:34:48.600 --> 2:34:52.240 you know, the guy that files the fights cap so, 2:34:52.560 --> 2:34:55.480 but I'm just saying, like I just watch all of them, 2:34:55.640 --> 2:34:58.040 watch all and that's that's so dope because the thing 2:34:58.080 --> 2:35:01.360 about it is your legend. So you're a legend hip hop. 2:35:01.959 --> 2:35:04.840 So everybody can like actually sit back and say, you 2:35:04.920 --> 2:35:07.760 know what I mean, that's what I did because I 2:35:07.840 --> 2:35:10.840 looked and my father is a boxer. So that's the 2:35:10.920 --> 2:35:13.360 reason why I'm so much into it. And the way 2:35:13.440 --> 2:35:17.080 you're talking, you're talking like me, I'm like, I think 2:35:17.120 --> 2:35:19.520 I know more than everybody. It's just me. It's just 2:35:19.600 --> 2:35:22.200 who I am. You know. And when when he I 2:35:22.400 --> 2:35:24.720 think I told more than everybody or I know more 2:35:24.760 --> 2:35:26.720 than everybody, and then this thing is talking like me, 2:35:26.840 --> 2:35:35.160 I'm like, he's dangerous. I'm seeing somebody who's me, Like, 2:35:35.240 --> 2:35:39.120 who's me? It's not me. So instead up, instead of 2:35:39.200 --> 2:35:41.520 trying to compete with you, I immediately want to get 2:35:41.560 --> 2:35:44.240 down with you because that's something that hip hop. That's 2:35:44.280 --> 2:35:45.920 what we have to do. The thing is we have 2:35:46.080 --> 2:35:49.280 to start doing other hustles. And right there, right right there, 2:35:49.400 --> 2:35:53.000 I can see you go into ah and every boxing match, 2:35:53.600 --> 2:35:56.520 regardless of it's in Barclay's it's just such a such 2:35:56.720 --> 2:35:58.640 and you're just covering the boxing match or some hip 2:35:58.680 --> 2:36:01.240 hop ship. You don't gotta be in a world. You 2:36:01.280 --> 2:36:03.200 don't gonna be in the world and doing like you 2:36:03.480 --> 2:36:10.200 being unifor listen, nigga ship win damn you. We don't 2:36:10.240 --> 2:36:12.240 even gotta We weren't gonna funk with them like we 2:36:12.400 --> 2:36:15.520 just you'd be behind the scenes the boxing nigga of 2:36:15.840 --> 2:36:19.400 our fucking generation point to us, they don't even gotta 2:36:19.400 --> 2:36:22.360 funk with us, like the boxing generation. This hip hop 2:36:22.440 --> 2:36:25.360 funk with us. That's it. Like like I watched Bill Moore, 2:36:25.440 --> 2:36:28.560 I don't funk with news, but I watched Bill Moore. 2:36:29.200 --> 2:36:31.160 I don't funk with news. I don't turn him off 2:36:31.200 --> 2:36:37.240 and go to c CBS or CNN, Fox, you know, 2:36:37.560 --> 2:36:39.280 or Fox and see him what he just said was 2:36:39.400 --> 2:36:43.160 the truth. No, I just funk with his facts, whatever 2:36:43.240 --> 2:36:48.280 his facts is. I'm working with that. I'm sorry, that's 2:36:48.400 --> 2:36:54.320 part of the problems. Definitely create the solution. Let's create 2:36:54.360 --> 2:37:02.560 the solution. This watch right in the bathroom where I 2:37:05.200 --> 2:37:18.879 think no talk. Sorry, sorry, sadist, such thing I talk 2:37:18.959 --> 2:37:25.200 about this mop shadow box of the check he said 2:37:27.120 --> 2:37:31.080 was probably want to know. I'm just trying to get 2:37:31.080 --> 2:37:33.000 off the dockroom. But this looks like Poppy on the 2:37:33.040 --> 2:37:36.880 shop side, like I'm just scared again, I tell you, 2:37:37.000 --> 2:37:39.360 and coming like that. This thing is fucking but on 2:37:39.520 --> 2:37:42.320 you from the door. He's sucking throwing puncheon. So when 2:37:42.360 --> 2:37:45.240 I go I go to my dad, I'm like throwing 2:37:45.320 --> 2:37:47.600 out punches and ships. Yea the bun until you could 2:37:47.600 --> 2:37:51.800 be mad weird, that's like that'sch I'm like, what who 2:37:51.879 --> 2:37:54.480 fuses that? And that was a porter ricking box. And 2:37:54.560 --> 2:37:56.320 then he went up to him and he's a pictures 2:37:56.360 --> 2:37:59.920 and he came sat with us my psssts from not 2:38:00.520 --> 2:38:03.200 just so you know that. You know, that's what all 2:38:03.440 --> 2:38:06.600 real boxes do. At some point, they'll be hanging out 2:38:06.680 --> 2:38:08.560 with you. They'll be chilling and they'll just get up 2:38:08.600 --> 2:38:13.520 and shadow even like what the fucking role with this bicker, 2:38:13.959 --> 2:38:17.640 I'll kick you, don't listen. I'm a real boxing fan. 2:38:18.040 --> 2:38:20.600 I hung out with everybody from the niggas test here, 2:38:21.080 --> 2:38:23.440 so the niggas just there and they all just at 2:38:23.520 --> 2:38:29.160 one point it was like throw the combinations just be 2:38:29.280 --> 2:38:32.600 walking somewhere, the walking to the bathroom. You're like, yo, nigger, 2:38:36.560 --> 2:38:40.920 I swear to God this is that's not abnormal at all. 2:38:42.240 --> 2:38:48.200 Sometimes you don't no, no, but but people, let me 2:38:48.280 --> 2:38:51.760 just say you something. People who write rhymes and they 2:38:51.920 --> 2:38:55.880 had they are a little bit more crazier than the 2:38:56.120 --> 2:39:00.520 most And I don't mean crazier like what I mean 2:39:00.640 --> 2:39:06.520 is you're talking about yeah big jay, like they're a 2:39:06.560 --> 2:39:10.040 little bit more like for elmetric, for lack of a 2:39:10.120 --> 2:39:14.640 better word, I want to say weirder because right around 2:39:15.160 --> 2:39:17.680 usually you're supposed to say pulling it on, remember that 2:39:17.840 --> 2:39:21.119 line and put it jotted down. But when you're you're 2:39:21.240 --> 2:39:28.000 superseded that smartness, you also supersede that weirdness where it's 2:39:28.160 --> 2:39:31.240 like kind of because just think about it, even when 2:39:31.240 --> 2:39:35.360 you write the rhynd, you're looking weird as fuck because 2:39:35.400 --> 2:39:37.800 you can't even communicate with somebody while you're doing it. 2:39:39.200 --> 2:39:45.920 Like somebody said, with something up to it yeah yeah, 2:39:46.280 --> 2:39:49.879 and you and they know you want to rolling talking 2:39:49.920 --> 2:39:53.200 to yourself. You're actually talking to yourself, so you're just 2:39:53.480 --> 2:39:56.440 weird as opposed to when you fit it on paper, 2:39:56.560 --> 2:39:58.920 you put it on your phone. I go right on 2:39:59.000 --> 2:40:03.520 line and like yeah cheese that yes you know I 2:40:03.640 --> 2:40:09.120 want yes, I would like like blue cheese, okay, cool, 2:40:09.280 --> 2:40:11.200 and you keep it going. But when you write in 2:40:11.280 --> 2:40:16.960 your head, you gotta block out everything. You gotta block 2:40:17.040 --> 2:40:21.440 out because if anybody say anything, you're gonna forget that. 2:40:21.520 --> 2:40:26.560 You said the Dutch Master Blue right Ryan section two. 2:40:27.080 --> 2:40:30.720 What you're gonna do a body with who you're gonna 2:40:30.840 --> 2:40:33.440 You're gonna forget all that. So you have to just 2:40:33.560 --> 2:40:36.320 stay there and you just stay focused. But then you're 2:40:36.360 --> 2:40:38.720 not writing it down, so you have to stay focused. 2:40:38.800 --> 2:40:43.280 To you, it's a weird thing. The weird. I salute 2:40:43.280 --> 2:40:46.400 to everybody. Gon do it, salute everybody who does. I 2:40:46.440 --> 2:40:47.840 had to do that. I had to do that ship 2:40:47.879 --> 2:40:50.000 when you have to start learning how to write your 2:40:50.000 --> 2:40:52.360 wrong when I first got sober, when I first started 2:40:52.400 --> 2:40:55.039 writing again sober because there had been so many years 2:40:55.840 --> 2:41:04.160 I couldn't write. I want to hear the sober. Yeah, 2:41:04.200 --> 2:41:06.320 that ship was almost six years ago. And it was like, 2:41:06.959 --> 2:41:10.160 what about you have a muslimoia right now? Right? You 2:41:10.280 --> 2:41:15.600 have oils Muslim oiers, brother, Like that's like, that's that's 2:41:15.640 --> 2:41:21.520 like Agyptian, It's like something like that. You know my 2:41:21.560 --> 2:41:24.800 old school Muslim oil niggers? Is that? Am I correct 2:41:24.879 --> 2:41:27.879 on a But it's something similar, something similar. All right, 2:41:27.959 --> 2:41:30.240 keep you going. I mean when I got when I 2:41:30.320 --> 2:41:33.039 got sober, it was like I had to teach myself, 2:41:33.400 --> 2:41:36.440 not teach myself, but get myself back accustomed to writing 2:41:36.520 --> 2:41:39.480 and doing ship without drinking. But can you tell us 2:41:39.560 --> 2:41:41.800 what this? What you how you got to the place 2:41:41.920 --> 2:41:45.280 to become sober? Oh ship? I mean, I just was 2:41:45.360 --> 2:41:48.480 making you know, everything that was wrong, every single thing 2:41:48.600 --> 2:41:54.080 that was wrong in my life, the path from that lead, 2:41:54.160 --> 2:41:58.199 the liquor, everything. It just affected my decision making across 2:41:58.240 --> 2:42:00.840 the board, you know what I'm saying, like all my decisions, 2:42:00.920 --> 2:42:03.480 like the people I chose to be around. I think 2:42:03.480 --> 2:42:07.960 it pointed at me that was sucked up because I know, 2:42:09.080 --> 2:42:12.800 because he knows you're a chance you can afford you. 2:42:13.560 --> 2:42:16.680 I know you can attest to that. I didn't have 2:42:16.800 --> 2:42:25.119 nobody to say, you know, so the people. I chose 2:42:25.200 --> 2:42:29.040 this around myself with the chicks, I chose this around myself. 2:42:29.080 --> 2:42:30.240 You know what I'm saying. It was just it was 2:42:30.360 --> 2:42:33.120 just everything was bad. Like the last thing, did you 2:42:33.160 --> 2:42:35.120 see the media takeout? Ship from the Chick exposed me 2:42:35.200 --> 2:42:38.360 on media take out? Damn, You're gonna remind me to 2:42:38.440 --> 2:42:41.039 remember this because I know I saw it. Yeah, yes, 2:42:41.600 --> 2:42:44.920 so that ship happened. It was just too much happen happening. Yeah, 2:42:46.080 --> 2:42:55.960 I was having the three some of chess girls the 2:42:56.000 --> 2:42:59.120 worst living is like let me, let's not get so 2:42:59.720 --> 2:43:04.360 if something, I'm sorry, Yeah, so, um, I'm I'm drunk 2:43:04.400 --> 2:43:06.160 and fuck you know what I'm saying. So it's like 2:43:06.240 --> 2:43:08.880 I'm I'm I'm sucking the one girl and then the 2:43:09.000 --> 2:43:11.720 um the other girls recording me but I don't, I 2:43:11.800 --> 2:43:15.200 don't know. And then like I'm sleep, I'm passed out 2:43:15.200 --> 2:43:17.039 on the couch and she's taking pictures of me while 2:43:17.080 --> 2:43:21.720 I'm sleep, you know what I'm saying. So time went by. 2:43:22.000 --> 2:43:23.760 I think she was mad at me because I wasn't 2:43:23.760 --> 2:43:25.280 like answering the phone and some ship, you know what 2:43:25.320 --> 2:43:28.000 I'm saying. But um, she ended up. I don't know 2:43:28.040 --> 2:43:30.360 if she sold him or whatever. She gave the pictures 2:43:30.400 --> 2:43:33.320 and ship the media take out. So I get a 2:43:33.400 --> 2:43:39.800 call from my side, chick mad cursing me out because 2:43:39.800 --> 2:43:42.360 I'm on media takeout. My wife don't even know, you know, 2:43:42.400 --> 2:43:44.240 I was saying, like, so now I got my side 2:43:44.360 --> 2:43:46.800 chick mad at me for some ship that I did. 2:43:47.040 --> 2:43:48.880 And then I got to be the one to tell 2:43:48.959 --> 2:43:51.560 my wife. And then I got into so much ship, 2:43:51.680 --> 2:43:53.600 got caught doing so much ship for my wife. My 2:43:53.680 --> 2:43:56.800 wife wasn't even as mad as my side chick. Like 2:43:56.920 --> 2:43:58.960 everything was just off, you know what I'm saying. It 2:43:59.040 --> 2:44:01.640 was just like I was like, I gotta make some changes, man, 2:44:02.160 --> 2:44:04.840 And then it was just like my marriage was ruined, 2:44:05.200 --> 2:44:08.920 was getting ruined. I was at a financial high in life, 2:44:09.640 --> 2:44:13.200 but I was just at a time more morally, I 2:44:13.320 --> 2:44:15.960 was underground. I was buried. You know what I'm saying, 2:44:16.160 --> 2:44:18.600 No more morals, no more integrity is a man, you 2:44:18.680 --> 2:44:20.240 know what I'm saying. Like you look at the word 2:44:20.320 --> 2:44:23.320 loyalty and it's like people break that word down and 2:44:23.440 --> 2:44:27.560 they they put they turn it into so many different parts, 2:44:27.640 --> 2:44:29.720 Like it ain't just one word, Like would you ever 2:44:29.840 --> 2:44:32.680 fuck your man's girl? No, you wouldn't think about it. 2:44:32.760 --> 2:44:34.960 Not that you're drunk is but you're cheating on your 2:44:35.000 --> 2:44:36.560 wife in a minute, you know what I'm saying. And 2:44:36.600 --> 2:44:39.360 it's like this is horrible, which is fucking horrible. I 2:44:39.760 --> 2:44:49.440 just don't get married. You just nigga. Literally my karma, 2:44:49.560 --> 2:44:51.600 My karma is, it's it's instant with you know what 2:44:51.640 --> 2:44:53.760 I'm saying like it's instant. Were you ever the salvage 2:44:53.800 --> 2:44:58.199 the marriage? Yeah, okay, Coradulus, Yeah, so I mean should 2:44:58.200 --> 2:44:59.640 I woke up one day in the hotel room and 2:44:59.680 --> 2:45:01.280 I was like, it's time to stop, you know what 2:45:01.280 --> 2:45:03.880 I'm saying. And I felt like and this is after 2:45:04.000 --> 2:45:07.160 Marshall had already became so he was years in because 2:45:07.200 --> 2:45:09.760 you and him used to get drunk together. Correct, Yeah, 2:45:09.840 --> 2:45:13.920 he he didn't. He was never really a drinker like that, 2:45:14.000 --> 2:45:18.920 but he was popping pills and we got drunk together, 2:45:19.080 --> 2:45:20.640 you know, plenty of times. You know what I'm saying. 2:45:21.120 --> 2:45:23.200 I mean, ship all my friends was pretty much my 2:45:23.320 --> 2:45:26.600 drinking buddy. He doesn't say, It's like, that's pretty much 2:45:26.640 --> 2:45:28.880 what my life was. But the only difference is I'm 2:45:28.879 --> 2:45:31.320 an addict, Like I'm wired like an addict. So you know, 2:45:31.400 --> 2:45:33.640 when we're sitting around having fun, y'all is just drinking 2:45:33.680 --> 2:45:35.640 and having fun. When the drink Champs interview is over 2:45:35.720 --> 2:45:38.200 and you go home and chill, I'm still love drinking. 2:45:38.200 --> 2:45:41.080 I can't stop. Damn. That's me right now. I think 2:45:41.160 --> 2:45:46.840 that not we already have to go there, Hey, b no, 2:45:47.000 --> 2:45:49.200 but we balanced it. We do work out. We do 2:45:49.440 --> 2:45:52.360 know we we take, we take days out of drinking, 2:45:52.440 --> 2:45:55.400 and we take saying we cannot because we're fucked up. 2:45:55.440 --> 2:45:57.760 I kid you not and your baby show. You got 2:45:57.760 --> 2:46:00.280 a baby shop, put my baby shop. I want to 2:46:00.320 --> 2:46:02.640 put your business on the street. I want to put 2:46:02.680 --> 2:46:05.160 your business on the streets. I finally found out that 2:46:05.240 --> 2:46:13.240 my partner, Dick worked sound I know, even royal and 2:46:13.360 --> 2:46:15.720 business for twenty years, he said. And he said, and 2:46:16.120 --> 2:46:19.640 I was like, this nigga ship ain't working because I 2:46:19.760 --> 2:46:24.759 got len pregnancies. He said, this is a pause friendly shows. 2:46:25.720 --> 2:46:29.560 So I said, well, I'm glad to know that she 2:46:29.760 --> 2:46:32.280 is ship is working. Glad to know you gotta you 2:46:32.360 --> 2:46:33.960 got you got a baby on the way. About this 2:46:34.200 --> 2:46:36.680 reveal to agenda, I won't do that. And the baby 2:46:36.680 --> 2:46:38.920 shop was private too, and the baby was private too. 2:46:38.920 --> 2:46:52.720 I won't say where it is, but voice so hip hop, man, 2:46:54.080 --> 2:46:56.360 did you think that hip hop would be where it's at? 2:46:57.000 --> 2:47:03.280 And what I'm saying is because listening to you, I 2:47:03.280 --> 2:47:05.680 imagine you come from the same place that hip hop 2:47:06.160 --> 2:47:08.200 where we are. When you had to have lyrics, that 2:47:08.360 --> 2:47:11.200 was the first thing of your outfit, Like before you 2:47:11.320 --> 2:47:14.879 care about having an Adidas, before you care about how 2:47:14.959 --> 2:47:18.160 the likes. At least you had your lyrics straight. Yeah, 2:47:18.720 --> 2:47:22.119 then you were worried about your outfit. Right now, people 2:47:22.200 --> 2:47:25.120 worry about the outfit, They worry about the rember, about 2:47:25.160 --> 2:47:29.000 everything else but the lyrics. The lyrics last. Right now, 2:47:29.080 --> 2:47:32.840 I think, unfortunately, can you stand this arrow hip hop? 2:47:33.000 --> 2:47:35.640 I choose to deal with it. It's me. Yeah, I 2:47:35.760 --> 2:47:37.360 choose to deal with it too. I don't think all 2:47:37.440 --> 2:47:41.160 of it is for me, right you know what I mean? So, Dog, 2:47:41.240 --> 2:47:45.920 I'm real Like I'm I'm good at being okay with ship. 2:47:46.320 --> 2:47:48.520 You know what I'm saying. Like, I realized if it's 2:47:48.560 --> 2:47:50.960 not for me, it ain't up to me to get 2:47:51.000 --> 2:47:52.880 all upset. It's up to me to just find a 2:47:52.920 --> 2:47:54.440 ship that I like to listen to, and just to 2:47:54.560 --> 2:47:57.000 listen to that ship, you know what I'm saying. Like, 2:47:57.760 --> 2:48:00.240 that's the luxury we're at today, though, we could find 2:48:00.280 --> 2:48:04.520 whatever we want everything every he's a DJ, he should 2:48:04.520 --> 2:48:06.840 be DJ in every party. I think he's that stubborn 2:48:07.000 --> 2:48:09.400 that he don't want a DJ because you don't want to. 2:48:10.200 --> 2:48:13.400 This is my opinion. Remember, remember going back to what 2:48:13.480 --> 2:48:16.920 we were talking to, Listen, we have one of the 2:48:17.000 --> 2:48:19.920 most hottest shows in the world. They wanted to DJ everywhere. 2:48:20.120 --> 2:48:22.160 You know, you want to say, I don't want to 2:48:22.160 --> 2:48:25.480 play this ship. I want to play old school ship. 2:48:25.600 --> 2:48:37.160 He's too busy making babies. Man. I want to say, 2:48:37.440 --> 2:48:44.160 we keep doing so we were talking about earlier, but 2:48:44.360 --> 2:48:46.440 motherfucker's get they get used to ship, you know what 2:48:46.480 --> 2:48:50.160 I'm saying, Like, lyricism was so important for so long, 2:48:50.480 --> 2:48:52.720 we just got used to it. In order for hip 2:48:52.760 --> 2:48:55.600 hop to evolve, people had to open up new doors, 2:48:56.000 --> 2:48:57.560 you know. So it's a little hard for us to 2:48:57.640 --> 2:49:00.680 accept that lyricism is in the fourth front in terms 2:49:00.720 --> 2:49:02.920 of like and music, but it's also you know, it's 2:49:02.959 --> 2:49:06.000 making us mature as listeners to but it's still it's 2:49:06.040 --> 2:49:08.960 still there because the difference between now and before is 2:49:09.040 --> 2:49:10.880 that it's not like you said, it's not on the forefront, 2:49:11.680 --> 2:49:14.040 but there's still lyricists. There's young cats that are still 2:49:14.120 --> 2:49:19.039 pushing lyrical ability. They're still like we got Denzel Curry, 2:49:19.680 --> 2:49:22.160 we got Kendrick. He might be not the youngest cat, 2:49:22.280 --> 2:49:25.640 but he's in that young and to me, he's like 2:49:25.720 --> 2:49:27.600 one of the us I've ever seen in my lifetime. 2:49:27.720 --> 2:49:31.520 The people, the people who are truly on top and 2:49:31.640 --> 2:49:35.080 have had the best careers from this generation, you know, 2:49:35.200 --> 2:49:39.720 like Kendrick Cole. Guys like that. They're to dare the lyricists, right, 2:49:39.800 --> 2:49:43.119 but listen, lys, but you you you when you're get 2:49:43.160 --> 2:49:45.879 in the gym and you're good in it because well 2:49:45.920 --> 2:49:48.480 all overweight, all of us right at one point and 2:49:48.520 --> 2:49:50.400 then we got in the gym. We got our ship together. 2:49:50.760 --> 2:49:54.480 But we're in the gym. You can't front. You do 2:49:54.680 --> 2:49:59.560 not turn off? He says, you do not, or you 2:49:59.680 --> 2:50:02.680 do I do not. I leave it on when it 2:50:02.760 --> 2:50:06.320 comes on, my off turn on. I'll leave it on. 2:50:06.800 --> 2:50:13.360 Google's actually in the Kanye in the studio. Yeah, studio, 2:50:13.840 --> 2:50:15.960 the gym, I mean the gym. I'm sorry, sorry, I 2:50:16.080 --> 2:50:18.680 think you turn on. Gucci Gang want to come on car? No, No, 2:50:18.920 --> 2:50:20.800 I don't. I see you got a porch pran to marrow. 2:50:20.879 --> 2:50:34.680 It's very nice white. He's gonna give y'all listen when 2:50:34.720 --> 2:50:38.400 you wear it in the car and good game come 2:50:38.480 --> 2:50:41.080 up and you got on GOOCHI because I also watched. 2:50:41.200 --> 2:50:45.280 You're tired. You're very Gooccie Gang too, You're very and 2:50:45.360 --> 2:50:48.520 then let's come on good and you're as I think 2:50:48.560 --> 2:50:52.199 it's cool. It's a cool song song you. I don't 2:50:52.280 --> 2:50:54.760 turn it off even when I'm in like Googi Gang, 2:50:55.400 --> 2:50:57.960 even even like it happen and like the club and 2:50:58.000 --> 2:51:01.520 ship like that, and you don't really want to hear 2:51:01.600 --> 2:51:04.640 like no super super lyrical shop wants in the club 2:51:05.640 --> 2:51:09.200 responsible ignorance music. That's what you're an adult. Music should 2:51:09.200 --> 2:51:16.880 be like that, though, that's a good one. Music should 2:51:16.879 --> 2:51:18.920 be like that though. Music should be like a soundtrack 2:51:19.000 --> 2:51:21.360 to every single thing that could possibly go onto your life. 2:51:21.600 --> 2:51:23.640 It should be music for everything. It should be music 2:51:23.720 --> 2:51:26.800 for every movie, just like watching movie, you know what, 2:51:27.240 --> 2:51:29.840 Like I prefer lyrics, you know what I mean? But 2:51:30.000 --> 2:51:32.800 also you know, like I like tons of different styles 2:51:32.879 --> 2:51:36.120 of music, different kinds of different genres, you know what 2:51:36.200 --> 2:51:38.560 I'm saying. So you can pick something out of any 2:51:38.879 --> 2:51:41.080 anything that these young dudes are doing. Some of it 2:51:41.280 --> 2:51:43.320 is just like not not tolerable. You can't listen to it. 2:51:43.400 --> 2:51:45.400 But should I just turn it off? I think there's 2:51:45.440 --> 2:51:47.720 different conversations when you're talking about like if you want 2:51:47.720 --> 2:51:50.640 to talk about the upliftment of hip hop culture. Yeah, 2:51:51.000 --> 2:51:54.560 I mean I think those are different conversations. Good you 2:51:54.640 --> 2:51:57.640 goddamn it. And this is drink chap, motherfucker podcast. We 2:51:57.800 --> 2:52:03.520 did we had to do the wrong before we get 2:52:03.560 --> 2:52:08.320 about it here, before we get about it. So is 2:52:08.400 --> 2:52:11.280 it difficult for you to be around environments as a 2:52:11.360 --> 2:52:14.520 person that's sober, because we want our fans to know 2:52:14.720 --> 2:52:18.400 that you can listen to us sober as well, just 2:52:18.520 --> 2:52:21.200 because we're getting inviriated that we're doing all this. This 2:52:21.360 --> 2:52:24.480 is about hip hop history. You're saying about us getting 2:52:24.600 --> 2:52:28.960 drunk or whatever. And we had Joe on there and 2:52:29.080 --> 2:52:30.600 now we have you on You and y'all both have 2:52:30.720 --> 2:52:36.680 similar stories being you know, recovering. Um, how hard is 2:52:36.720 --> 2:52:40.600 it to maintain an everyday society after you make that switch. 2:52:41.320 --> 2:52:43.520 It's not difficult for me, now, you know when I 2:52:43.600 --> 2:52:47.600 first when I first got sober, I didn't I didn't trust. 2:52:49.120 --> 2:52:51.120 I didn't trust being in a certain environment. So I 2:52:51.200 --> 2:52:53.360 just didn't allow myself to be in those environments. Like 2:52:53.400 --> 2:52:55.280 I was about to We're just about to do a 2:52:55.280 --> 2:52:57.800 slaughterhouse store. When I got sober, I had to call 2:52:58.000 --> 2:52:59.879 all the guys in the group individually and just tell 2:53:00.080 --> 2:53:03.600 that I couldn't go, because, yeah, we weren't able to 2:53:03.640 --> 2:53:06.520 do because I didn't know. I didn't know what sobriety was. 2:53:07.000 --> 2:53:08.600 I didn't know if it was a situation where if 2:53:09.080 --> 2:53:10.640 some liquor what I want something? You know what I'm saying, 2:53:10.680 --> 2:53:12.520 like the should be like dangling and stake in front 2:53:12.560 --> 2:53:15.080 of my face and steps. Is that what you did? Yeah, 2:53:15.160 --> 2:53:20.080 you automatically do with steps And he was a patron guy. Yeah, 2:53:20.120 --> 2:53:23.320 my last went through different I went through. I went 2:53:23.360 --> 2:53:26.320 through different phases in my in my drunkardness. But I 2:53:26.400 --> 2:53:29.600 had a legendary drunkard that means he drank. Give us 2:53:29.640 --> 2:53:31.920 the legendary drink of this story. I mean I started 2:53:31.920 --> 2:53:34.840 out with the first drink I ever drink was Jack 2:53:34.920 --> 2:53:40.240 Daniels with Dre with Dr Dre Jack Daniels, Dr Dre, 2:53:40.640 --> 2:53:44.760 Dr Doctor Drake. That sounds to the studio I was saying. 2:53:45.120 --> 2:53:51.240 I was what you're saying that Dr Dre out together. 2:53:51.400 --> 2:53:55.440 I didn't realize the way I worded it. What's you're 2:53:55.440 --> 2:54:04.480 gonna name this episode? Name? You had to cause friendly good? Yeah. 2:54:04.560 --> 2:54:06.959 So I started out with Jack Daniels and then um, 2:54:08.000 --> 2:54:11.039 I started drinking Riccardi with Marshall. Just Riccardi straight, that's 2:54:11.080 --> 2:54:13.560 all we're drinking and Riccarti straight. I always I'm a 2:54:13.640 --> 2:54:16.600 Cardi Lemon, just a Cardi Cardy Lemon was next, No, 2:54:16.720 --> 2:54:18.600 don't do it, don't do it, don't go there, And 2:54:18.680 --> 2:54:20.840 I was about to say I'd never ever in my 2:54:21.040 --> 2:54:23.959 drinking career drink mixed drinks. The moon is the worst. 2:54:25.360 --> 2:54:28.880 You never drink. You're a real rock ship, isn't in 2:54:28.920 --> 2:54:31.440 the way. I'm sorry, I don't. I don't mean to 2:54:31.520 --> 2:54:33.640 sounds like an alcoholic that's trying to bring you back. 2:54:34.000 --> 2:54:36.200 But you do it because I love me. This sound 2:54:36.320 --> 2:54:38.920 like that guy you understanding that m ain't have been 2:54:38.959 --> 2:54:42.800 the problem. Is you just gonna way too hard man. 2:54:42.959 --> 2:54:48.880 You might have had needed some self of water. Like yeah, 2:54:56.000 --> 2:54:58.440 I love saying I'm suggesting that right now. I'm not 2:54:58.640 --> 2:55:01.520 suggested that I love you, Grace, and I really respect you. 2:55:01.560 --> 2:55:04.160 I should have gone really really do. But I'm just saying, 2:55:04.400 --> 2:55:10.600 I'm just yeah, maybe another light not in this one. 2:55:11.160 --> 2:55:14.840 You know, there's two things I didn't understand with drinking. 2:55:15.879 --> 2:55:18.960 Why people wanted their liquor to taste good. No, it 2:55:19.040 --> 2:55:21.640 never tastes good. But that's what the mixing, that's what 2:55:21.760 --> 2:55:25.160 the mixed drinks is for. You go to you go 2:55:25.280 --> 2:55:27.080 to a bar and they put he's right, they put 2:55:27.160 --> 2:55:28.880 this much right. But I never then they put a 2:55:28.920 --> 2:55:30.640 bunch of ship in to try and make it taste better. 2:55:30.640 --> 2:55:32.920 I always tell people it never tastes good. It feels 2:55:33.000 --> 2:55:35.680 good the first one. Yeah, it's like it's like you 2:55:35.760 --> 2:55:43.120 can't right. So I'm on my six years about to 2:55:43.120 --> 2:55:49.800 be so why didn't I didn't understand why people wanted 2:55:49.840 --> 2:55:51.760 it to taste good. And I didn't understand why people 2:55:51.800 --> 2:55:54.320 would just go have a couple of drinks. If you're 2:55:54.320 --> 2:55:56.200 not gonna get sucked up what you're drinking for, I'm 2:55:56.240 --> 2:55:57.760 not I'm not gonna lie. That's what I do know. 2:55:57.879 --> 2:56:01.520 You drink to get sucked up. That's all right. What's 2:56:02.200 --> 2:56:05.840 what's do you? So? It's I see you cut it 2:56:05.920 --> 2:56:08.920 off at one point, I see you feel yourself. But 2:56:09.000 --> 2:56:12.760 then I see yeah, I see like getting enough an 2:56:12.760 --> 2:56:15.120 you way. But then I also see you tell people 2:56:15.480 --> 2:56:26.040 you want to him also ready to people just walks 2:56:26.080 --> 2:56:30.160 through and you said people fuck you. I'm like, yeah, 2:56:30.520 --> 2:56:36.800 what's going on? You're like, fuck you, Pitt bouck you. 2:56:38.480 --> 2:56:42.960 I'm like, why am I here? Why did you invite 2:56:43.000 --> 2:56:45.920 me out to the ton of the Sun. And everyone 2:56:46.040 --> 2:56:50.800 knows I'm not lying, just saying you understand that you 2:56:50.959 --> 2:56:55.960 gotta be very under the water. I know that that's 2:56:56.000 --> 2:56:59.640 a sun. Let me you haven't tell you. Let me 2:56:59.680 --> 2:57:02.920 just say went out on something. That is right, guys 2:57:02.920 --> 2:57:08.600 of asshole man when you lock thing though, right, there's 2:57:08.640 --> 2:57:13.480 like different levels of clubs. They got the clubs where 2:57:14.000 --> 2:57:17.720 it's like everybody go to, like then there's the clubs 2:57:17.760 --> 2:57:23.160 where everybody can go to. Okay, So I mean on 2:57:23.360 --> 2:57:36.320 the age over age midle a, no age. So you 2:57:36.440 --> 2:57:39.760 go and you go to the joint and I walk 2:57:39.879 --> 2:57:47.200 in it like the context that tell us thing that 2:57:47.440 --> 2:57:53.160 the DJ said, get what I'm saying, What did that mean? 2:57:53.520 --> 2:58:02.640 Take off your story. I'm from New York City, wants 2:58:02.640 --> 2:58:07.200 to find where am I. I don't know that he 2:58:07.360 --> 2:58:09.560 was in the Miami for a couple of years already. No, 2:58:09.720 --> 2:58:11.960 this is this is kind of like my first night. 2:58:14.840 --> 2:58:17.520 Get that a lot. I remember that ship for the 2:58:17.600 --> 2:58:21.160 rest of my lady. Get down that lot said that 2:58:21.240 --> 2:58:26.680 in the said Spanish is this I did learn that's 2:58:26.720 --> 2:58:31.720 man and then people who just walked through. But you 2:58:31.760 --> 2:58:34.160 know there's backstory to that. I don't know the backstory. 2:58:36.959 --> 2:58:39.720 This is my story. This is my story. He pleas 2:58:39.800 --> 2:58:44.240 letting me my story or so I don't know the backstory. 2:58:44.360 --> 2:58:48.200 I listen to a little backstory. All I know is 2:58:48.280 --> 2:58:56.720 he walked through and he did not say hot, yeah yeah, 2:58:56.840 --> 2:59:03.040 and took a couple of more get and the thing 2:59:03.360 --> 2:59:07.320 walked over and saying I'm gonna fuck you up right 2:59:07.560 --> 2:59:12.640 now that the security is teach the chef, he's a chef. 2:59:14.080 --> 2:59:21.080 It was purple no, but teas like, yeah, what are 2:59:21.120 --> 2:59:24.360 you doing the family bro? No, Beca's hound drunk you 2:59:24.480 --> 2:59:30.560 word teachers like please, here's no one did not see 2:59:31.480 --> 2:59:38.720 the fucking what would you drinking? But that's not happened, 2:59:43.480 --> 2:59:48.680 not so it's not exactly what happened. Like if you're 2:59:48.879 --> 2:59:56.000 supressionally making true this my story. What was saying a 2:59:56.080 --> 3:00:03.600 lot of people like put it in here. You know what, 3:00:03.720 --> 3:00:06.240 I'm gonna agree with that. I got a friend of 3:00:06.320 --> 3:00:12.360 your version of its funny. That's funny. But but he 3:00:13.360 --> 3:00:16.680 but did you does your virgen contain I'm gonna fuck you? 3:00:16.920 --> 3:00:30.880 Want I don't know what. Let's let's change whatever the 3:00:30.959 --> 3:00:33.680 reason why I don't know you. That's not what this is. 3:00:34.200 --> 3:00:37.480 This is a supportive movie. When you see Royce Ords 3:00:37.560 --> 3:00:40.240 moving this interview, Rys like, man, I love drink chat 3:00:40.560 --> 3:00:43.840 drink chats me up. They do whatever, But there's a 3:00:43.920 --> 3:00:48.600 couple of clips where we we weren't funny, and that's 3:00:48.640 --> 3:00:52.400 what the the fucking whole audience looks at. So people 3:00:52.640 --> 3:00:55.320 think they're like yo. But the thing about it is, 3:00:55.440 --> 3:00:57.480 it's something that I just told somebody the other day 3:00:58.320 --> 3:01:02.959 is don't this for the two percent of what's wrong? 3:01:03.760 --> 3:01:09.000 Pick me up for the ninety eight percent for what's right. Like, 3:01:09.120 --> 3:01:12.800 if I'm doing something ninety eight percent that's right and 3:01:12.879 --> 3:01:15.520 it's only two percent that's wrong. How dare you call 3:01:15.600 --> 3:01:19.040 me about the two percent? Why not call me and 3:01:19.160 --> 3:01:23.920 say that nine percent you're kicking out its greg. They 3:01:24.000 --> 3:01:28.080 got the whole hood happy, you know. But the person 3:01:28.200 --> 3:01:32.240 called me about the two percent and they made me 3:01:32.520 --> 3:01:35.480 just think of that made me just express that. So 3:01:35.800 --> 3:01:38.200 the thing about hip hop is hip hop. We don't 3:01:38.240 --> 3:01:41.560 give our people they flowers while they can smell them, 3:01:42.200 --> 3:01:45.400 They trees while they can hell them, They thoughts what 3:01:45.560 --> 3:01:48.640 they can think of them, and they drinks while they 3:01:48.720 --> 3:01:53.120 can drink them. And the thing is, you know, God 3:01:53.200 --> 3:01:57.920 bless the dead, Craig mac A, love Buck, Stark Sky, 3:01:58.080 --> 3:02:00.680 all these people. These people passed away, and now people 3:02:00.720 --> 3:02:03.120 want to post pictures of the that's not what we 3:02:03.200 --> 3:02:05.480 want to do and drink chance. We want to post 3:02:05.560 --> 3:02:09.240 pictures of you. Why are you fucking alive? We want 3:02:09.280 --> 3:02:11.280 to pick you up? Why are you fucking a lie? 3:02:12.920 --> 3:02:15.600 And most of the people that we interview don't even 3:02:15.720 --> 3:02:19.720 really have something going on but to us, and it's you, 3:02:20.160 --> 3:02:26.680 what you did, it's bigger. You're on And so it 3:02:26.840 --> 3:02:30.000 hurts me sometimes when I see people and I tell them, 3:02:30.040 --> 3:02:31.960 I said, Yo, listen, I see you about to drop 3:02:32.040 --> 3:02:36.880 the album. Come funk with us, come see us. They're 3:02:36.920 --> 3:02:39.480 listen to their record label and they'll go see such 3:02:39.560 --> 3:02:42.720 and such or such and such. And it doesn't matter 3:02:42.840 --> 3:02:45.360 because I think about this. We don't need you first, 3:02:46.240 --> 3:02:49.200 We need you when you're right. You know what I'm saying. 3:02:49.600 --> 3:02:51.959 But the thing is, it makes me know what level 3:02:52.160 --> 3:02:56.039 the artist is on, what we're gonna do, what's what's 3:02:56.040 --> 3:03:05.440 your be a beast? Future future future legend, future legend 3:03:06.800 --> 3:03:09.000 always say when I when I when when people bring 3:03:09.080 --> 3:03:11.720 tank up, I always say that nigger, he punches with conviction. 3:03:12.600 --> 3:03:14.760 He throws every punch like you're trying to kill you. 3:03:16.120 --> 3:03:17.960 I love those kind of fighters. That's that fire I'm 3:03:18.000 --> 3:03:19.840 talking about. They can't be taught I take out that 3:03:19.959 --> 3:03:24.760 fire Wilder. Yeah, so one of the same hands down 3:03:24.840 --> 3:03:28.320 Deonte Wilder is taking out Anthony Joshua and that is there. Well, 3:03:28.320 --> 3:03:30.360 you can never say a hundred percent hands down in 3:03:30.400 --> 3:03:32.840 the heavyweight division, and the heavyweight division is you know, 3:03:33.000 --> 3:03:36.840 it's taking your back, but taking your back voice. I 3:03:36.879 --> 3:03:39.959 would say, put your money on Deonte okay, but now 3:03:40.280 --> 3:03:42.520 your money what would you what would you bet? I'm 3:03:42.520 --> 3:03:44.800 putting my money on Deontae. If I'm betting, all right, 3:03:45.080 --> 3:03:47.640 I'm talking about one to ten, how much money would 3:03:47.640 --> 3:03:50.480 you put one in ten on the I put I'll 3:03:50.480 --> 3:03:54.320 say ten. I'm confident. I'm confident that he was. He 3:03:54.440 --> 3:03:57.000 just got he got more fire, man, he got more fire. 3:03:58.160 --> 3:04:00.360 What is this fight is supposed to take place June job? 3:04:00.560 --> 3:04:04.000 They still haven't they have enough. They ain't signed on 3:04:04.080 --> 3:04:13.480 the fight each other yet. Huh. Well, listen, man, Royce, 3:04:14.080 --> 3:04:16.360 I want to thank you for coming down, sit down, 3:04:17.000 --> 3:04:19.360 and you know, you know, for for me, I want 3:04:19.360 --> 3:04:25.080 to salute you because um, I forget who are your 3:04:25.120 --> 3:04:27.720 people's but I wanted to ask them and say, yo, 3:04:27.800 --> 3:04:32.080 you know, should we stop drinking or should we stop smoking? 3:04:33.080 --> 3:04:35.240 Or some type of ship and there was like, race 3:04:35.360 --> 3:04:38.160 is good. They can sit right to fucking there and 3:04:38.240 --> 3:04:41.000 y'all can do whatever. So before we get up out 3:04:41.040 --> 3:04:44.560 of here, how did you develop that type of tolerance 3:04:44.640 --> 3:04:48.440 where you could actually, you know, sit around people that's 3:04:48.480 --> 3:04:52.320 indulging and you're not indulged. Yeah, you just it's it's sobriety. 3:04:52.360 --> 3:04:54.680 One of the things with sobriety is just about learning yourself, 3:04:55.520 --> 3:04:58.320 you know what I'm saying, Like learning exactly what you 3:04:58.440 --> 3:05:00.480 can can't stand. Like when I first got sober, I 3:05:00.520 --> 3:05:02.120 thought I was gonna have to be exactly like how 3:05:02.240 --> 3:05:05.119 him do his ship, Like it ain't nobody around him 3:05:05.200 --> 3:05:08.200 drinking and smoking. Like yeah, you kind of not saying 3:05:08.240 --> 3:05:12.640 that he's isolating himself, but we don't go around him drinking, 3:05:12.760 --> 3:05:13.920 you know what I'm saying, Like I try. I was 3:05:14.000 --> 3:05:16.160 traveling with him while I was still drinking, and I 3:05:16.320 --> 3:05:19.480 never drink around him, you know. So like when I 3:05:19.720 --> 3:05:22.040 got sober and I went around Slaughterhouse, they did the 3:05:22.120 --> 3:05:25.200 same thing. But I'm sober, my nigga, so I could 3:05:25.240 --> 3:05:27.880 tell when you're hiding drinks, hiding the bottle, and you 3:05:27.920 --> 3:05:29.520 know what I'm saying, when y'all got drinks, But y'all 3:05:29.560 --> 3:05:31.600 just don't want me to see it. If anything, that 3:05:31.600 --> 3:05:33.400 ship makes me feel more weird about it. You know 3:05:33.440 --> 3:05:35.440 what I'm saying, because you reminded me that I'm the 3:05:35.480 --> 3:05:37.720 motherfucker who's different from everybody. You know what I'm saying, 3:05:37.800 --> 3:05:40.600 Like it makes me feel better when everybody is just themselves. 3:05:41.640 --> 3:05:44.400 Do what works. You're mentally strong to be a yeah, 3:05:44.400 --> 3:05:45.960 because if you if we're working with each other and 3:05:46.040 --> 3:05:47.920 we're doing some ship, I want you to be in 3:05:48.080 --> 3:05:50.280 your element. You let me get my element, and I 3:05:50.360 --> 3:05:52.360 want you to be a young man saying with the 3:05:52.400 --> 3:05:54.760 interviews and ship, man, if this is what y'all doing here, 3:05:54.840 --> 3:05:56.440 you know what I mean? Like I talk to people 3:05:56.480 --> 3:05:58.200 and tell them I'm coming, I'm excited. I'm like, yo, 3:05:58.240 --> 3:06:00.320 I'm about to go funk with Nori. You know, how 3:06:00.360 --> 3:06:02.440 can you do that? But you don't drink? Don't mean 3:06:02.480 --> 3:06:06.600 I gotta drink. I think I personally text you and 3:06:06.680 --> 3:06:09.200 told you that, like it please, that's not what we do, 3:06:09.440 --> 3:06:11.720 like you know, like the thing is, the thing is, 3:06:12.200 --> 3:06:15.160 I'm sorry. We want to praise our artist, you know 3:06:15.200 --> 3:06:19.880 what I'm saying. Or so many people they want to 3:06:19.959 --> 3:06:22.680 wait for you to die. You'd be hurt or you 3:06:22.840 --> 3:06:25.840 to go through something tragic for people to actually be like, 3:06:25.920 --> 3:06:29.320 your voice is dope. Yeah, and that's why I was 3:06:29.400 --> 3:06:33.680 so I was so happy when you, um he said 3:06:33.720 --> 3:06:36.080 something about Fat Joe recently. He was like, how long 3:06:36.160 --> 3:06:39.640 we're gonna keep continuing to ignore that Fat Joe was 3:06:39.760 --> 3:06:42.520 just out here relevant? And then Fat Joe came and 3:06:43.000 --> 3:06:46.440 he and he said, yo, yo, this is a lyrical giant. 3:06:46.760 --> 3:06:49.199 I forget what he said. You know, I'm paraphrasing, of course, 3:06:49.600 --> 3:06:51.840 but he backed you up back, and I was just like, 3:06:52.360 --> 3:06:54.480 this is what hip hop is supposed to be. This 3:06:54.640 --> 3:06:56.680 is exactly what it's supposed to be. The thing is, 3:06:57.080 --> 3:06:59.760 we're so competitive with each other, and we forgot to 3:06:59.800 --> 3:07:02.240 beg the people that were actually fans up. Yeah, you 3:07:02.280 --> 3:07:05.640 say something good about somebody, you automatically we don't want that. 3:07:05.800 --> 3:07:09.640 That's that's what drink chances. That's what drink chance is established. 3:07:09.680 --> 3:07:12.920 It's taking away that dick right up. Like, I have 3:07:13.160 --> 3:07:16.840 no problem with telling you boys, I think you're a 3:07:16.920 --> 3:07:22.040 lyrical giant. I think that you know, aside from from 3:07:22.280 --> 3:07:26.160 from from from you know, like the actual success and 3:07:26.240 --> 3:07:29.039 the money and there's no dispects all up. But you're 3:07:29.160 --> 3:07:32.720 up there with M and Jay and you're lyrically you 3:07:33.240 --> 3:07:35.200 know what I'm saying, You're up there with them. And 3:07:35.320 --> 3:07:38.040 the thing about it is that takes nothing away from 3:07:38.080 --> 3:07:43.000 me from begging you up. So fucking what, Yeah, you 3:07:43.360 --> 3:07:46.200 you deserve it, you know what I'm saying. You deserve it. 3:07:46.320 --> 3:07:49.000 And the thing about hip hop is so many people 3:07:49.040 --> 3:07:51.680 they don't give a funk about saying people people in 3:07:51.760 --> 3:07:55.040 hipop aren't comfortable enough in their skin, you know what 3:07:55.080 --> 3:07:58.080 I'm saying. And it's like everything is contingent upon other 3:07:58.120 --> 3:08:01.400 people's opinion of you. So you put that being worried 3:08:01.400 --> 3:08:04.280 about them and seeking validation from those people. You put 3:08:04.360 --> 3:08:08.160 that ahead of just being a good, genuine person, you 3:08:08.200 --> 3:08:10.200 know what I'm saying. And it takes the people with respect, 3:08:10.280 --> 3:08:12.480 like how you got you? You can take the steps 3:08:12.920 --> 3:08:15.800 forward and big people up because they're not gonna come 3:08:15.840 --> 3:08:18.240 at you a certain way. You already developed a certain respect, 3:08:18.720 --> 3:08:20.040 you know what I'm saying. And it's the same here 3:08:20.120 --> 3:08:21.960 when it comes to lyricism. I feel like I can 3:08:22.480 --> 3:08:26.920 compliment anybody because I've already established myself as respected as 3:08:26.959 --> 3:08:29.680 a lyricist. So when they hear it coming from somebody 3:08:29.760 --> 3:08:32.160 like me, they look at it different. That's why I 3:08:32.200 --> 3:08:34.600 said what I said about Fat Rio, you know what 3:08:34.600 --> 3:08:39.840 I mean, Like his longevity is inspiring to me. Man, 3:08:40.240 --> 3:08:43.000 he's like one of my He's like one of my idols. 3:08:43.200 --> 3:08:47.280 I had conversations. I had conversations on the phone with people. 3:08:47.600 --> 3:08:50.119 I had conversations on the phone with Keeno about industry 3:08:50.160 --> 3:08:52.880 ship and there's certain things that I'm not supposed to 3:08:52.920 --> 3:08:56.160 be able to accomplish in my age statistically and this 3:08:56.320 --> 3:08:58.760 music ship, and then you turn around and you see 3:08:58.800 --> 3:09:02.840 Fat Joe do it. There's always an exception to the rule. Always. 3:09:02.959 --> 3:09:06.200 I think Dream Champs is that examples. No, he's right though, 3:09:06.280 --> 3:09:10.040 but yeah, it's all your boat, right right, yeah, proposed 3:09:10.080 --> 3:09:12.160 to the same thing. So seeing this show, to seeing 3:09:12.160 --> 3:09:13.760 this show pop off of you and ship like that, 3:09:13.879 --> 3:09:16.920 that's equivalent to Fatrow coming with lean back, right. It's 3:09:16.959 --> 3:09:19.560 like it's incredible because it's not. It's not supposed to 3:09:19.640 --> 3:09:23.240 happen if you ask the critics and the thing about 3:09:23.280 --> 3:09:26.960 our our shows. So sorry, um think about our show. 3:09:27.080 --> 3:09:29.920 It should be a cheat cold for the people whose season, 3:09:30.480 --> 3:09:34.200 meaning the people that like everybody yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 3:09:34.240 --> 3:09:40.440 yeah yeah yeah yah I don't I don't relax, I 3:09:40.480 --> 3:09:44.440 don't listen. I don't want to make excuses like we're 3:09:44.600 --> 3:09:46.800 here for the people who have been here ten years 3:09:46.840 --> 3:09:49.480 and more, who put their grind in. So now, if 3:09:49.480 --> 3:09:51.920 you want to promote your little sisters, you know what 3:09:51.959 --> 3:09:54.400 I'm saying, uh single, and you want to come on 3:09:54.560 --> 3:09:57.600 here and you want to you open up if you 3:09:57.640 --> 3:10:05.800 want to promote your gator. They just started rapping. Yeah 3:10:05.840 --> 3:10:10.520 it's alligator. Got alligator. I'm just saying, I'm just making 3:10:10.560 --> 3:10:13.280 it up right now. You gotta alligator and you want 3:10:13.320 --> 3:10:16.160 to because this this shouldn't be the cheat cold for 3:10:16.320 --> 3:10:20.400 niggas that got ten and twelve and fifteen years and 3:10:20.480 --> 3:10:23.040 more in this game, because you know what, you have 3:10:23.240 --> 3:10:25.760 the regular radio station when you're a new guy. You 3:10:25.840 --> 3:10:28.480 have the regular SoundCloud when you're a new guy. But 3:10:28.600 --> 3:10:31.880 this should be a platform when you seasoned. You know 3:10:31.959 --> 3:10:35.200 what season me? Season me? These motherfucker's seizes you and 3:10:35.240 --> 3:10:37.680 then put you in the frigerator. Nigga, now lets you 3:10:37.879 --> 3:10:42.640 back overnight. I got that. And then they take your 3:10:42.720 --> 3:10:47.480 monkey ass out and then they fry you that season 3:10:47.800 --> 3:10:51.360 that means you have to stay in the frigerator. Colds 3:10:53.120 --> 3:10:54.920 for a certain amount of time. I just want to sit. 3:10:55.160 --> 3:11:00.040 This is the movie. Sorry, movie, but this is what 3:11:00.080 --> 3:11:02.160 do you mean when you say season in the hip hop? 3:11:02.480 --> 3:11:06.480 You had to go through a certain freezer with the 3:11:06.600 --> 3:11:09.879 season and knowing you and you can't even get frozen, 3:11:10.400 --> 3:11:16.920 You're not season. This is real. You gotta go through 3:11:17.000 --> 3:11:19.680 this in the hip hop and then after you come 3:11:19.720 --> 3:11:22.560 through that. This is the reason why I always pushed 3:11:22.560 --> 3:11:25.960 the hip hop union. It's because after you go through 3:11:26.040 --> 3:11:29.680 that freezing and after you wake up that next day 3:11:29.720 --> 3:11:32.560 and they put you in the oven hip hop to 3:11:32.680 --> 3:11:34.320 take care of you for the rest of your life. 3:11:35.120 --> 3:11:37.600 And that's the thing about it. The thing about it, 3:11:37.720 --> 3:11:40.640 there's so many people who gave a blood, sweat and tears. 3:11:40.920 --> 3:11:44.320 They did it, They went platinum, and they fucking homeless 3:11:44.440 --> 3:11:47.800 right now. They're working in McQuary's and mccary's doesn't even 3:11:47.920 --> 3:11:51.840 exist no more. So that lets you know where they're working. 3:11:53.959 --> 3:11:57.640 They're working in wal Mark. This is real. Ship. If 3:11:57.720 --> 3:12:00.520 you gave ten years and your your life to hip 3:12:00.560 --> 3:12:05.160 hop and you really came out there, you you really worked. 3:12:05.959 --> 3:12:09.959 Our union should it should be a union in places 3:12:10.520 --> 3:12:14.480 that at least that at least helps the only other 3:12:14.760 --> 3:12:19.440 corporation in the world that doesn't have a union is boxing, 3:12:20.000 --> 3:12:22.560 and boxing is the most brutal sport in the world. 3:12:22.760 --> 3:12:27.920 Is this what we're saying about an entertainment company? This 3:12:28.360 --> 3:12:31.320 entertainment we ain't beating each other up. I mean, we 3:12:31.400 --> 3:12:33.000 beat each other up because that's what we choose to. 3:12:33.400 --> 3:12:36.040 But this should be a hip hop So I am 3:12:36.160 --> 3:12:40.160 gonna keep continuing doing this podcast and keep it there 3:12:40.320 --> 3:12:43.560 until we find because U t A and forget who 3:12:43.640 --> 3:12:45.640 else who reached out to us to help us with 3:12:45.760 --> 3:12:48.959 this hip hop union, A couple of people, but until 3:12:49.040 --> 3:12:51.600 we actually get this because I'm God bless you. I 3:12:51.600 --> 3:12:55.119 don't ever wanna you know, you know, I'm not gonna 3:12:55.120 --> 3:12:57.400 work blessing to day. But that's all something happens to 3:12:57.400 --> 3:13:03.000 you tomorrow. Royce. You went to your level where you 3:13:03.040 --> 3:13:04.879 had to get sober and you had to do something 3:13:05.520 --> 3:13:08.400 why And then you know what happens is the whole 3:13:08.440 --> 3:13:12.520 world says, well, M should have stepped up, a right nigga. 3:13:12.600 --> 3:13:15.200 Let me, let me let me just say something. Let 3:13:15.240 --> 3:13:18.640 me be fair about this. Yeah, M should step up, 3:13:19.440 --> 3:13:21.640 but you know who should step up first? Hip hop? 3:13:22.800 --> 3:13:28.080 The community. You gave your blood sweating tears to us. 3:13:29.120 --> 3:13:31.120 It should be like a gil like. It should be 3:13:31.200 --> 3:13:34.400 like any time any nigger in our community he get 3:13:34.520 --> 3:13:38.680 locked up, and it ain't right. It ain't murder, it ain't, 3:13:39.080 --> 3:13:42.640 it ain't, it ain't something. It's all a crime that 3:13:42.760 --> 3:13:45.480 we can respect. He was selling. We get that, nigga. 3:13:47.080 --> 3:13:49.280 It's a crime that we can respect. Let's get him. 3:13:50.480 --> 3:13:53.119 But if you was to get sick right now, poplex 3:13:53.280 --> 3:13:57.560 so sorry, there wouldn't be nothing to come to you 3:13:57.800 --> 3:14:02.040 but them but a Paul hos of But your own people, 3:14:03.000 --> 3:14:05.760 and that's kind of not their responsibility. After you give 3:14:05.879 --> 3:14:09.280 us seventeen years of your life. Yeah, I'll see what 3:14:09.320 --> 3:14:12.160 you're saying. You understand what I'm saying. I think you 3:14:12.520 --> 3:14:15.360 give us seventeen years of your life. It should be 3:14:15.560 --> 3:14:18.960 a union that just says, oh Royce is sick, or 3:14:19.040 --> 3:14:21.440 shut the funk up, everybody, move the fun back, my nigga. 3:14:21.440 --> 3:14:25.600 When I got sober, I didn't even have health insurance insurance. 3:14:27.040 --> 3:14:30.240 It's something new to people. I didn't even I didn't 3:14:30.240 --> 3:14:32.760 even have health insurance. I had a ton of money 3:14:33.160 --> 3:14:35.879 or no health insurance. That's just that's the nice thing 3:14:35.959 --> 3:14:38.640 we think about. It's like, but it's the first thing 3:14:38.680 --> 3:14:42.560 that poplishes is like it's a big business and it's 3:14:42.600 --> 3:14:44.280 like a lot of money to be made, but it's 3:14:44.360 --> 3:14:46.840 like you get no information when you come into this ship. 3:14:47.480 --> 3:14:50.199 Everything you learn is based off of making mistakes. Unless 3:14:50.240 --> 3:14:53.000 you blessed enough to be around somebody you can kind 3:14:53.040 --> 3:14:54.520 of like point you in the right direction. But you 3:14:54.680 --> 3:14:58.640 learn everything off of error, and statistically most people don't 3:14:58.640 --> 3:15:03.840 survive those errors. Damn. So it's not hip hop is 3:15:03.879 --> 3:15:05.440 not set up for you to succeed, to set up 3:15:05.480 --> 3:15:09.640 for you to fail, for sure. Absolutely well, please don't 3:15:09.640 --> 3:15:13.240 say hip hop, say the business, the business entertainment, because 3:15:13.600 --> 3:15:15.840 hip hop it's made for you to be whoever the 3:15:15.920 --> 3:15:17.280 funk you want to be. You just gotta be who 3:15:17.320 --> 3:15:19.840 the fun you want to be there. But the business 3:15:20.440 --> 3:15:28.360 is definitely yeah, yeah, goddamn listen, I'm gonna stop up. 3:15:28.959 --> 3:15:30.880 We did the artists do they drop? So their own 3:15:31.080 --> 3:15:34.000 shout out to looks now that's right now and um 3:15:34.200 --> 3:15:36.200 yeah yeah I loves now. And then we'll do the 3:15:36.280 --> 3:15:38.720 picture together. Yeah, and the drop, let's do it. No, no, 3:15:38.920 --> 3:15:40.960 the drop, I want real start doing the artist by 3:15:41.000 --> 3:16:05.680 the s