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Speaker 1: And it's Drink Chas motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper.

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Speaker 1: Miami hippop pioneer. What up is d J e FN?

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Speaker 1: Together they drinking up with some of the biggest players

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Speaker 1: Drink up, motherfuck motherfuck would it could be? Hopefully what

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Speaker 1: up is d J e F? This militum motherfucking podcast.

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Speaker 1: I know what I'm saying it wrong, this is crazy

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Speaker 1: Ward Radio. I know what I'm saying this motherfucking drink

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Speaker 1: Chat motherfucker two year anniversary at least now. The Nightest

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Speaker 1: Guess is one of my personal w UM favorite lyricists.

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Speaker 1: Um the guy has had countless uh things that he's

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Speaker 1: his life. Him rhyme. He's probably the only person who

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Speaker 1: like nine thousand records together and not one like the

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Speaker 1: But let's take it from the beginning. So how is

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Speaker 1: So what you want from the very beginning, like, how

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Speaker 1: make some bro. I started rapping. I was playing basketball

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Speaker 1: This's an honor to talk to you. And he was like, yo, man,

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Speaker 1: It was hard to resist that. Yeah, you see, but

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Speaker 1: mean it's it's just something. It's one of the things

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like that his album and Marshall's

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Speaker 1: part that that bothers me when I look at that

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Speaker 1: You don't think you don't think it would have been

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440
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Speaker 1: Oh yeahs dope too. At that time, it was like

441
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: Sean was like a big independent seller, you know what

442
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 1: I mean. But he didn't have a major record. He

443
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: was like he was, he's a legend, you know what

444
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But when Marshall got his deal, it was

445
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 1: like the first in years, you know, it was like

446
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 1: since like, um, what was it not multily from the time.

447
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: It's a competitive city, man, it's a competitive city. So

448
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: I ran into a lot of problems. So I watched

449
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: a couple of your interviews, UM and UM to do

450
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: my research. And the thing that nobody really UM pointed

451
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: out is your glasses game is happy. Thank you man.

452
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: You have on custom card frames with Heaven, which is

453
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: the name of your studio. Correct and my correct, you

454
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: are correct. I've never seen car t air frames. I

455
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: watched rap Radar interview and I said, look at these guys.

456
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: They didn't even point out out, they didn't take no

457
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: mention to this guy's classes. These are called diamond cut body,

458
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: look like that all those prescriptions or those just fly

459
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: These are just fly. Yes, yes, I could have gotten

460
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: my prescription and them. I just didn't want to wait

461
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: for him. When I see them, I had to wear

462
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 1: them immediately because I knew that this style he just

463
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 1: came out, and I wanted to be the first one.

464
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: I still ain't see nobody with him. I see you

465
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: all right, right off? Listen, he said, I was the

466
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: first one with him, So let's make sure that that's

467
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: not I'm sure somebody don't try to the first figure.

468
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: I was looking like, damn, those are different. Okay, So

469
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: now you and him, something happens where there's a fallout.

470
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: Now for this brief moment was a heartbreaking for me

471
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 1: because again, I don't I've met you. I met him,

472
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: but I don't really know you guys, but I understand

473
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: the relationship from you guys in the public's eyes. Did

474
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: you guys have this falling out? Why wasn't this falling

475
00:25:51,760 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: out even happen? Um? Okay, the biggest the biggest part

476
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: of it was communication, I would say, lack thereof, you know,

477
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: like we didn't get the opportunity to say to each

478
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: other how we felt about the situation. It was so

479
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: many people, so many people kind of like instigating it

480
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: and saying what they could say. The kind of like

481
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: fuel it did it. I think it turned it got

482
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 1: a little bit easier for him to just not deal

483
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: with it at all. Then to try to deal with

484
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: it and please all of these people. And on my end,

485
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: it was like I wasn't doing my part to keep

486
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: it peaceful. I was kind of fueling it too, because

487
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: at that time, I felt like I was kind of

488
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: like defending myself. I was standing up for myself. You

489
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying our fans, because our fans is

490
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: a little bit slow. And I'm sorry to hate when

491
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: I say that. They hate when I say that, because yeah, So,

492
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: what what we were saying is that when the problems occurred,

493
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: there was other people who came in who fueled your mind,

494
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: fueled his mind. Is that what it was because the

495
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: situation was between it was between me and his crew

496
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: detoiled right now? What Na, that's the thing too, Like, yeah,

497
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: it kind of it kind of during like to tell

498
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: end of it, it kind of turned into me me

499
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: versus Proof. It kind of got perceived that way just

500
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: because of how vocal he is, how popular he is,

501
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: and how popular I was at the time. Within that situation,

502
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: it really stems back from an issue between me and Bizarre.

503
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: That's what That's what it comes down to. Bizarre Bizarre,

504
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: Me and Bizarre both went to the same high school.

505
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: He was real cool. Well he wasn't real cool, but

506
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: he was. He knew my big brother, my big brother's age.

507
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: They didn't like each other, you know what I mean.

508
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: So you remember I told you nobody knew how wrapped, right,

509
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: So this nigga Bazarre was like the man in high

510
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: school and rapping. So as soon as he left, he

511
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: found out that I was rapping now right, you don't

512
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: like that. He didn't like that, so he came back

513
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: like I don't like that. So yeah, he wasn't no

514
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: no hating ship and that he's just a competitive Yeah,

515
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: so he he came back and I was at the

516
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: part he approached me and ship to battle, you know

517
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So we battled like that was my

518
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: first time actually like knowing the niggasm. We battled, right,

519
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: We did that. So years later I would see him

520
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: at the hip hop shop. I'll see him out. So

521
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: we was cool. When I started hanging with him, everything

522
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: changed with me and everybody, you know what I mean.

523
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: So it was just like once everybody started getting deals,

524
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: everybody was so competitive instead of supportive. That's why I

525
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: always try to teach, not teach, but always try to

526
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: like advocate unity within our community in Detroit with the

527
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: young artist, because when we started getting deals, we were

528
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: the first batch of nigga's getting deals in Detroit in years.

529
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: So instead of us unified with each other, we all

530
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: just competed with each other. Happens in Miami, happened York,

531
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,239
Speaker 1: happens in Queen. So just it just so happened with

532
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: this certain situation. We were competing with each other too

533
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: close under the same umbrella, and it put him in

534
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: put him in the position where he pretty much had

535
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: to choose, you know what I'm saying. So, um, it

536
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: could have been it could have been rectified, but nobody

537
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: was taking those steps. Everybody was just standing their ground,

538
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, so once you do

539
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: that and you don't funk with the communication, everybody around

540
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: is trying to fuel it. They just make it worse

541
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: and worse, worse and worse and worse and worse. So

542
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: every time we've seen each other, they got more and

543
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: more weird. You know what I'm saying. Niggas were saying

544
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: this about each other. Niggs was saying that about each other.

545
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: And I can't blame nobody because I know I did

546
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: my part and the next thing, you know, this record

547
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: got made then I made it was the first thing

548
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: they dissed you first. It was detwolve this you first

549
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: they put out the first record, but not am You

550
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: and M didn't have no it was everybody else and

551
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,239
Speaker 1: M never had a problem. Me and Mr Porter never

552
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: had a problem being Proof never had a problem. It

553
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: was something between and me and bizarre And then it

554
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: just grew. I just grew into something that it shouldn't

555
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: have been, you know what I mean, How did you

556
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: fix it? I think it was time, you know what

557
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Like a lot of time went by, nobody's

558
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: speaking to each other. Then when we finally uh was

559
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: improof passing. That was one of the things. That was

560
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: one of the things. I mean, seeing him in that coffin, man,

561
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: it was just like, yeah, yeah, God blessed. Seeing him

562
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: in that coffin was just like, it's just too surreal,

563
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like at one point I

564
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: thought I didn't like him at one point, but seeing

565
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: him in that coffin and it broke my heart so much,

566
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: and seeing them all in the front row and seeing

567
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: what the family went through and all of these different

568
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: feelings and emotions. It just it makes you feel like

569
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: life is short, Like what the funk are we beating for?

570
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So, I mean that was

571
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: one of the things. I think that was one of

572
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: the things that helped Marshall kind of because me improof,

573
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: me improof pieced it up way before he passed. He

574
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: was like real cool. We went back on tour together

575
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: and ship like that. Poof was like one of the

576
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: happiest guys. I don't know, like he was always was

577
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: happy every time. I forget what strip club I shot.

578
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: I filmed. I keep I hate saying shot. Um. I

579
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: filmed in Detroit. Um it was about an eight mile

580
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: and I did the movie. Um what what was the movie?

581
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: Not hard movie? No, no, nothing hard movie. It was,

582
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: um Jerry Ride. Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm enjoy Ride Detroit.

583
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: I was out there. I holed to joint and before

584
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: I get to the Joe buttons, Joe button and all

585
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: that stuff, checking in. Checking in was basically almost invented

586
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: by Detroit niggers. Right. How I visualized checking in was

587
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: this was my homies anyway, So check my niggas is

588
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: my niggas. I never felt landing in Detroit and say Yo,

589
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: nig I'm here because that's what they required. They asked me.

590
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: They didn't demand it. They they say nigga checking in,

591
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: nigga mother. They they just say yo, nigga, when you

592
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: in my city. I want to know because I know

593
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: that there's other grammy niggas running around this city that

594
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: might get you because they know you work with me.

595
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: So I've always came to Detroit and I've always and

596
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: most of the time these niggles to be busy anyway,

597
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: So these niggas are, But Detroit is kind of like

598
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: the people who patterned that checking in. What do you

599
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: feel about that right now? Because this is this is

600
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: a big controversy about checking in. Yeah, I don't know.

601
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: I don't understand why such a controversy. I think it's

602
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: just a lot of people they're they're measuring stick on

603
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: what respect is. It's just completely different. It's just completely different,

604
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I learned respect in

605
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: the household, like my dad was. My dad ran the

606
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: house with the iron fist, you know what I mean.

607
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: So I got punched in the face at home before

608
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: I ever could get punched in the face in the street.

609
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that. I think that should happen

610
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: to every kid. I should happen every get punch in

611
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: your face? Is the fact we spreading it or drink kids,

612
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: you get punch in the base. Everyone including your own,

613
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: get punch in the base. Once. Let's go. When you

614
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: go to somebody's city, you're going to the house. I

615
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: said here as a girl, girls should not. It's like

616
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: it's like it's like, you know, somebody, if somebody come

617
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: to your house. Man, you know, like if I go

618
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 1: to somebody's house, I'm thinking, damn, man. The first thing

619
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: I do is I look at the carpet, like should

620
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: I be taking my shoes off? This guy got white carpet.

621
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: Let me take my shoes. I can go to your

622
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: house for five thousand years, and I still will ask

623
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: you can I go to the frigerator? Yes, Like I

624
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: still be like yo, I will never go on someone's frigerator.

625
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: Like I sort of go. I can go to your house,

626
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: I said, I sort of. I still ask you can

627
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: I use the bathroom? Like that's just who I am.

628
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: Not everybody has that common sense, but not everybody was

629
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: He's right, customs. I don't know before I even messed

630
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: up I mean, like, yo, bru, when I go to

631
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: somebody and you know what else, it was like that

632
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: Styles piece. I came to my crib, this nigga cleaned

633
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: up a mess that he didn't even make, like I'm

634
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: just out there. And that's how the styles he was

635
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: a killer. Off top the nigga came. I was like

636
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: the hold on ory and this thing. I was like

637
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: just just like some bottles I had from drinking, and

638
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: like I was going to clean it up. But he

639
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: got the first thing he did. He walked in my

640
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: house and say, oh, scoose me. He didn't, he didn't

641
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: say somebody's violing, and he just picked this shut up.

642
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: I said, this nigga's like killer because anything is that's

643
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: nice like that oh his other side. And so I

644
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: knew that on top of me being a screen nigger,

645
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, you know what i mean, I'm

646
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: sorry I went I went a little crazy. Kay? What

647
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: that was? That was my new son was a great

648
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: nigga's uh. I mean yeah, I think it's just a

649
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: respect thing. I totally understand it. Just because I'm from Detroit.

650
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 1: Maybe if I came from somewhere else, the lines would

651
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: be a little skewed. Maybe I would look at it like,

652
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: damn what they're trying to say, you know what I mean?

653
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: So I understand why some people don't understand, but I mean,

654
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: everything ain't for you to understand. No, But the thing

655
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: about it is Royce, right, you being from being from

656
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: not even from Detroit, you being from hip hop. And

657
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: you know when I got an album called The Warrior

658
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: Port and I have a partner who's from Queensbridge and

659
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: it's from left right, and you go to Queensbridge and

660
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: left right because your record label tells you you gotta

661
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: go out there and go promote in this restaurant and

662
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: then go promote and this guy's and I gotta retail store.

663
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: One of the first things you shouldn't do. It's called

664
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: the two Motherfucker's, you know from that spot. So I

665
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: gotta say your Royce, man, it's like reflect, reflect, I'm

666
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: not even going out there right now, and you can

667
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: make a decision right from there and then but now

668
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: you don't make that call, and ship happens. This is

669
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: the reason why, Like I'm just I'm just debating the cost.

670
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: But do you think that's the same context that they're

671
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: using it now? Just to be devils. Yeah, I didn't

672
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: think that case. I checked in with you for the

673
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: for the whole time. I got my drugs from you

674
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: for twelve years straight. Let's make the norm I used

675
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: to spend in Miami. I try to. I said, you

676
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: know what, I drop's gonna give me the dry He'll

677
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,040
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678
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: it personally gigs and what I wanted to see, you

679
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 1: brought it too. God makes a lot of time about

680
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that. But no, let me people can

681
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: say that was checking antie. I know, no, I'm gonna

682
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: say that when I landed in Miami and I said,

683
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: when I'm landing in Miami and I wanted to do yeah,

684
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: I hate you. You you what you're saying, that's called

685
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: checking what I'm trying to do. Devil's an avocate, the

686
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: devil's advocate. The context is different because you're saying you

687
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: check them with people you knew. These people now are

688
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 1: arguing over checking when people they don't know. Well, guess

689
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: what if you go to a person city, that's exactly

690
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. This is their city. You don't know

691
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: these people in the city. You have to meet them.

692
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: You have meeting. It is different, you know what I'm saying,

693
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: especially if you're gonna continue to go to that city.

694
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: It's nothing wrong with saying your trick, trick, what's up,

695
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: chad of boys with something? I know, I'm old school.

696
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: I know. You know what I'm saying. You know it's

697
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: so very old school, you know what I mean, But

698
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: it is not wrong. You know what's up. I'm here,

699
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna eat over here. I'm going to be

700
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,920
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701
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: happened in the city and then you're gonna rush to

702
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,680
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703
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: You know they're gonna call after you, so you might

704
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,279
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705
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,880
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706
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707
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,680
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00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,160
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Speaker 1: because they don't have to be nice. Could be whatever

749
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: it could be, whatever, you know, whatever the people from

750
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: that city wanted to be. That's what it could be.

751
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: That's what people don't realize. It's like right. So so now,

752
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: Joe butten, you guys were actually beefing right before y'all

753
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: started slaughter House. You guys are actually coming at each other.

754
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: Not not not technically. I mean, he didn't come at me.

755
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 1: He didn't come back at me. I was firing off

756
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: on him on my mixtape because he started. He just

757
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: dissed me for no reason. That's how he is, big

758
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: him up. He's a bergo. That's how we are. I'm sorry.

759
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: I'm sorry this in case Joe Thaw was coming that

760
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: had my hurgos and he just dissed me for no reason. Bro,

761
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta call out of nowhere, like, hell,

762
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: you you know this is Joe Button nigger. I was like,

763
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: Joe Button, Oh, you didn't know him. I had never

764
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: met him, because I felt like all y'all knew each

765
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,479
Speaker 1: other in the mind. Man, Bro, I didn't know Joe.

766
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know him. I wasn't following

767
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: him like I wasn't. I'm not gonna say I wasn't

768
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: a fan because I did. Um. My wife liked his

769
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: first album. She used she used to play it, so

770
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: I used to hear some of the songs. Yea pump

771
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: it up, AM when I used to hear some of

772
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: the songs and be like, you know, this is a

773
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: crap like this. So I was aware that he was

774
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: a high level with MC. I was aware, but I

775
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't like following his his his independent initially started y'all

776
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: to even start sparring, bro, What did he say? I

777
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't did this thing. I got myself in this situation, bro,

778
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: where I was in the battle with Mr Fab. Y'all

779
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: talked about it on here before Mr I was in

780
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: the battle with Mr Fab. He smoked me, smoked me,

781
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: smoked me. So Joe was supposed to be there. I

782
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: didn't know I was gonna be in the battle. I

783
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: wasn't prepared to battle because I can't free stop, so

784
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: I ain't had nothing written for it. So I was

785
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: just doing like regular raps and ship Yeah, shout out

786
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: the chuck from all hip hop. Because he told me

787
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't coming to a battle. He told me something

788
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: totally different than when I got there. I was just yeah.

789
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: So Joe never showed up. I was supposed Mr Bab

790
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: said he put on the show. He said he put

791
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: slowed the house together. He's one of the he's one

792
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: of the kind of like the kid he kind of

793
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: like the catalyst continue and shot. So you know, so

794
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: the whole time, you know, like if Joe would have

795
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: showed up, he was the one, because the whole place

796
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: was just like Joe. Yeah, he kept saying, he kept

797
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: saying he was on his way. This nigga kept telling

798
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: Chuck he was on his way, knowing he wasn't coming.

799
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: So the whole places like built up in that and

800
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: we took some from all hip from all hip hop.

801
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: My nigga's my nigg even though he lied to me.

802
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: So he blatantly knew that it was a battle because

803
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: he knew I wouldn't be in it, like Fante Fante

804
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: was in it, and then Fante pulled out at the

805
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: last minute. So I knew something was fishing because everybody

806
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: kept pull little brother. Yeah. I didn't even know Mr

807
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: Fab at that point, so it was like they told

808
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: he was definitely unknown. He was unknown, So I'm like,

809
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm not knowing this nigg is a freestyle wizard, you know. Yeah,

810
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: that's my kid. Yeah, So it's like so I'm like

811
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm like they like, you're just gonna rhyme versus you're

812
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: gonna rhyme versus and the crowd is gonna judge him.

813
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: I get there. Craig g as the host that should

814
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: have been a flat specialist all the time queens Bridge

815
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: by the way, all the battles, he was like you ready,

816
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: you got your raps ready for the battle. I'm like, yo,

817
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm not here the battle. And he was looking at

818
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: me like like he knew. He knew, you know what

819
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it was like and then Joe kept

820
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: saying he was on the way. He never showed up,

821
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like they was like Joe's

822
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: brother had just got shot or some ship like that.

823
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: So it ended up just being me and Mr Fab

824
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: No other contestants was directly at you. No, no, he freestyles.

825
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: Know if if he would have directed his raps at me,

826
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: which he could have did because he's a freestyler, he

827
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: would have killed me even worse. So he held back

828
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: and saying I told him, don't direct no raps at

829
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: I told him before that. I was like, bro, I

830
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: come in to battle. You know what I'm saying, don't

831
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: face me, say nothing about me. And he was just like,

832
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: all right, cool, I respect that we shook hands. He

833
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: was cool, so he wrapped his raps, but he was

834
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: he was kicking battle raps, but he wasn't saying my name.

835
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: So I just remember him saying something like I get

836
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: you shot like Choe Brother did or something, you know

837
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like it was like he was freestyling.

838
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: So he was already talking about Joe Brother is just

839
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: good man, you know what I'm saying. So all while

840
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: he rapping, I'm sitting and thinking to myself, this is bad.

841
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: This is bad. So I'll go. I get to Mike

842
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: and I'm rapping Versus off of my album that I

843
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: worked I was working on at that time. In the

844
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: crowd was just like, all right, we came to see

845
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 1: a battle, you know what I'm saying. So it's hot.

846
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: But literally the only person in the room who don't

847
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: realize who don't realize the battle so so so you know,

848
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: like halfway through fab Mr Fab first verse, I realized, Okay,

849
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna win this so um

850
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: because that I was told you will win up like

851
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: a prize to win determined though the crowd, judge crowd.

852
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: It was a pro New York crowd. This is the

853
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: reason why I actually to all the respect to was.

854
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: That's the reason why I took a liking to Mr

855
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: fab was because he had an l a accent, uh

856
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: you know California actually excuse me, and he had all

857
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: this and he kind of like challenged everybody in the crowd,

858
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: and I was just like, all right, cool. That was

859
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: dope to me because he was the exact opposite of

860
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: what we're used to seeing, Like I like, I'm a

861
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 1: fan of about a rap. I don't want to battle

862
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: nobody though. He was like he had on the shirt

863
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: I think he had on the shirt with like airbrush

864
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: on it and shape. He just didn't look he didn't

865
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: look like nobody that I felt like compete with me

866
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: and wrapping, you know what I mean. So I was

867
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: just looking at him like all right, I should be

868
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: all right, it's just me and this guy. You know

869
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I've never heard of him, you

870
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like the nigger start rapping? And

871
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: how did how did you and Joe? That is that

872
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: how you meet? You and Joe became cool? Yeah? Because okay,

873
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: so look so after he won that battle, you know,

874
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 1: it was footage of it, so it went on YouTube. Joe,

875
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: knowing he didn't show up, goes and looks at the footage.

876
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: So I guess maybe he was a fan of me

877
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: before and he felt like, oh Royce fell off because

878
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: look how he looked in this battle. So you know,

879
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: Joe came just keep his feelings to itself. He got

880
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: to go public and say the ship and this ain't

881
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: even podcast Joe, this is just it's just troublemaker Joe.

882
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: So he um. He went in interview with DJ Envy

883
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: and he said some ship about the battle and talked

884
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: about how I looked like ship in the battle, and

885
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: Envy was agreeing with him, like yeah, he didn't look

886
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: realty bad, you know what I'm saying. Like, so there's

887
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: this whole conversation about how bad I looked in the battle,

888
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: and I don't have no mic to be able to

889
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: clarify what really happened. It was just an l I

890
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: just had to take. So um. And then Joe makes

891
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: a song and then in the song he's like, uh

892
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: something something something something about Mr fab because him and

893
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: Mr Fad was having words too, and he was like

894
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: and Royce failed the funk off. So I ain't gonna

895
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: mention him and none, no, no, done. My phone blew

896
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: up like crazy to tell me about the song. So

897
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: I'm like this niggod, this nig is actually saying my

898
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: name didn't show up for the battle that he did.

899
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: He didn't show la that's what you're saying. Yeah, So

900
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 1: I'm just taking ls all across the board at this point.

901
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: So like, so, um, I did, like what the m

902
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: c s do? You know what I'm saying. I picked

903
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: up a pen and I told myself, I'm not gonna

904
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: let up on Joe Button until he responds. He's not

905
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: gonna say my name. You like five records, right, I

906
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: can't remember how many. I didn't write no records about him.

907
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: I just because at that point it was like in

908
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: my mind it was like I got I want to

909
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: beat him. I want to beat him. So like whatever

910
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna battle somebody, I never just I never just

911
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: shoot the full clip immediately out the gate. I'll say

912
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: a line, if you respond, if you respond to it,

913
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna go. You know what I'm saying, I

914
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: really right now, that's the young girl. So I mentioned

915
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 1: his name a few times on my mixtape Bar exam

916
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: and he did some interviews, he said some more stuff.

917
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: Whatever the case, it didn't seem like that he really

918
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: wanted the battle. I ended up finding out later that

919
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 1: he was just like he was gonna respond. He wrote

920
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: some ship. He just never put it out. So, um,

921
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: the ship that I was dissing him on, he heard

922
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: that and he was a fan of that. So I

923
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: guess he heard it and was like, oh, so this

924
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: nigga didn't fall off. And his boys was telling him, man,

925
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: I don't think you should dis him, and Keno was

926
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 1: telling me stop dissing him. I don't think you should

927
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: dis him. Y'all should work together. So this nigga caused

928
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: me out of nowhere. I'm I'm at the hospital. My

929
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: first daughter is being born. So he Um, we get

930
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 1: on the phone, Joe called, Yeah, and Joe because Keno

931
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: told me, he was like yo, he he reached out

932
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: to me through Chuck, who look like the guy. I

933
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: don't sense to up. I don't sex to up set up.

934
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: Chuck set me up, fab killed me, and then Joe

935
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: didn't show up. He sold me out. So so um,

936
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: we get on the phone and he's like, yo, man,

937
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: what's up? Man? Like I want to. I got this song.

938
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: I want to. I want to. I want you to

939
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: get on. I started to be like, yo, what's up

940
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: with that ship? You've been talking? You know what I'm saying.

941
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 1: But I just was like, I'm in the hospital about

942
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: to have my first girl. Keo was like Keno was like,

943
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: you shouldn't. You shouldn't be dissing him because I wrote

944
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: some more ships I was about to put out and

945
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: he was like, no, I don't put that out. You

946
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't put that out. So I didn't want to feel

947
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: like I was a troublemaker because I think I was

948
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: fighting a lot at that time. So I was just like,

949
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: all right, man, I just pretended like nothing never happened,

950
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: because that's how Joe is. If you don't like bring it,

951
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: bring it up to him, he won't talk about it

952
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: because it's nothing to him, Like it's not. I took

953
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: it personal. He didn't. I took the ship real personal.

954
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: I was mad, you know, me and my little brothers

955
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: to talk about like my seat of snigger, you know

956
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like he's totally oblivious to him. It's

957
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: just rap, you know what I'm saying. So I learned

958
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: that about him. Once I got to know him, so

959
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 1: I was like, well, who's gonna be on the song?

960
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm putting you Crooked Eye Joel Ortiz.

961
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, that should sound like a

962
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: slaughter House. And he was like, oh shoot, I think

963
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call the song that. So I went, I

964
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: left the hospital. I left the hospital that night, went

965
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: later diverse real quick, came right back to the hospital

966
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: and sent it to him. He put it out the

967
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 1: next day, and that's how slaughter House was for him.

968
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm not I thought, we're just gonna have to be

969
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: seven questions later. How you put the grove together? That

970
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: that's an amazing that's an amazing story, best ship I've

971
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: ever heard. Look at that and it works. But you

972
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: know what I learned from that, man, It's like, you

973
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: gotta stop taking everything personal. Yep, you have to keep

974
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: you gotta keep an open mind about relationships. Sometimes we

975
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: don't run around on everybody's dick, but don't close yourself

976
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: off from people. I did that for many years. Once

977
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: I started collaborating with people and being open to just

978
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: getting to know other sides of people instead of judging

979
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: them before you really get to know him. I got

980
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: to meet some good people. I learned a lot from collaborating,

981
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 1: and I achieved a lot of successful ship just standing

982
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: next to people and playing my playing my position, and

983
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: also being willing to learn from people. You know what

984
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You think you would have made that same

985
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: decision without the people around you that was telling you,

986
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: you know, just do it played a part. But I

987
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: think I had I was. I was at the right age.

988
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: I had been through enough. You know, I certainly didn't

989
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: want to have problems with nobody at that point, you

990
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But you know, I still I'm competitive.

991
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 1: I'm an m C. I'm certainly not the type of

992
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: MC you could just say my name, you know what

993
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Like we're gonna you say my name. We're

994
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: gonna battle all year. How honored are you so? Um

995
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: be on the list of people that they say that

996
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: Eminem didn't body on the record, they said they the

997
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 1: list that he bodied people on the record, It's phenomenal.

998
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: I'm honored just to work with him, man, You know,

999
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 1: I'm honored. I'm honored to work with him. Every time

1000
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: we do something. Every time we do something, I still

1001
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: feel it's the same with Preme. I never really like, goddamn,

1002
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: make some noise for me, we get into that, let's

1003
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: don't work. Yeah, I mean, I just I just you know,

1004
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: when we started working with each other, it was just

1005
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: respect for each other as m c S. I didn't

1006
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: have no idea he was gonna become what he what

1007
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 1: he became, you know. So um, once we started working

1008
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: and he became like this phenomenon and yeah he was

1009
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: body and everybody, you know, like when he was doing

1010
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: a lot of features with people, that was like his thing.

1011
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: But um, I don't know, man, I kinda we used

1012
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: to do songs. I just didn't used to feel like

1013
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: I always felt like he killed me on every song.

1014
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah I did. I didn't realize people was gonna

1015
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: be like, yo, you're the only person who body marshal

1016
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,720
Speaker 1: on songs or you still test the time. I couldn't.

1017
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: I can't think on one time my body, not one time. Well, um,

1018
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: now let me ask you the life long hip hop

1019
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: question all time, and I want you to take yourself

1020
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: out of your friendship mode. And I'm just I'm asking

1021
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 1: the hip hop fan who had the better verse? Are

1022
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: in a game that's been an ongoing conversation here. Come on,

1023
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: if you was drinking right now, this is every time

1024
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: I'll give you a shot, but I'm not gonna take

1025
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 1: a shot. I'm drinking this delicious mindstanding you drink. Hopefully

1026
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: they shot over picked them up. But come on, or

1027
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: we really need you to keep it real because this

1028
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: is I know you did other podcast before, we've seen it.

1029
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: We get it. Listen, you're on the real podcast. Okay,

1030
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,200
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1031
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Speaker 1: get drunk and here legendary hip hop stories. Let's actually

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Speaker 1: help people out there. If you can't, we we feel

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Speaker 1: the drink Champs Army could help contribute to this fundraising

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Speaker 1: goal and fundraise from the Listen In campaign will support

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Speaker 1: the next round of global outreach. You can help start

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Speaker 1: Keep Hearing Foundation reach goal by the donating to the

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Speaker 1: listen in campaign today. To give the gift of hearing,

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Speaker 1: I g N dot org. Go to listen in campaign

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Speaker 1: dot org to give the gift of hearing today. Yes, please,

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Speaker 1: we'll put it to you like this, my nigga. First

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Speaker 1: of all, the real answer is there is no There

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00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: is no answer to that question. It's like asked. It's

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00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: like asking somebody better between big and it's keep. It's

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00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: based off your your preference. They provided you two different

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00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: things that you can't really compare now. If you want

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00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: to go if you want to go deeper, I'm a

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00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: whole stand that retigate whole versus light work for whole,

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00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: light work, light work, light work, kind of listen that

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00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 1: m verse light work. Me and M did that song

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00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: and just threw it away. We did the song. It

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00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: was like you was the actually that was my record.

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00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: He produced it right and he produced it, right, So

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00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: your versus was whole with Hold. Water was taking my

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00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: verses out and Hold. He sent it to Hold with

1084
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: holes in it, and Hold just wrapped and filled it in.

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00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: Damn right, damn right, you fucking sucking up the whole poet.

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00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: You came here for a reason. Don't hit them, Okay.

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00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: So that describe subscribe how this happens you. You guys

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00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: do the record. Jay Z flies to Detroit, I imagine,

1089
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: no California. They sent the records, sent it, sent it

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00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: and m sends Jay there. It's just just what it was,

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00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: the same as act record. Yeah, he had been asking,

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00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: He had been asking them, and they've been both. Their

1093
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: schedules was crazy, so they kept missing each other. So

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00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: um he asked him. Him called me, was like, Yo,

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00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm thinking about giving jay Z this Renegade record.

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00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: What you think would you be cool with that? And

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00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: I just felt like it was cool to he even

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00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: asked me because technically it wasn't my record no more.

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00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: We we did two records, and I was supposed to

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00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: just pick one of them for me to use the

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00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: other one, but you know what I mean, Like Renegade

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00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: was just something we felt like we can, we could

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00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: do better. I felt like we could do better, you know,

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00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: So we took my verses off, took my listen, you yo,

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00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying we was right. I'm not saying it

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00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: was right. I just I'm just saying, maybe maybe they

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00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: just said that's what you basically said. Listen. Maybe it's

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01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: maybe we just had like a maybe I had like

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01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: a picture in my head, or maybe I had something

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01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: in my mind that I felt like we needed to

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01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: be doing at that time. And maybe I was just

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01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: trying to shape ship according to my album, but I wasn't.

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01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I felt like it was good. It became

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01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: great when they did it, when we were doing it,

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01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: I felt like it was good, you know what I mean.

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01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: Like I didn't think it. I didn't think it was that,

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01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So my part of the

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01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: hook got taken out, My verses got taken out, and

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01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: he sent it to Jay like that. We still and

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Speaker 1: when Jay says his part, that's never been afraid to

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Speaker 1: say what's on my mind? I mean, I still I

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01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: still said that. I said that part, but my version

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Speaker 1: of it. Old took it and rewrote his part to

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Speaker 1: say Cove's way but it was the same words, just

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Speaker 1: never been afraid to say just the same words. It's

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, because he was like because jigga, jigga like

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01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: that part. At first it was because royce'ster can't get

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Speaker 1: Detroit and I'm just saying this to Mr kiss my

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Speaker 1: asses Justice. So he just switched. As the version exists somewhere,

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Speaker 1: what's all long? Would you? Yeah? Well that put that

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Speaker 1: up doubt Now what what what do you feel about

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01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: the ghost right and ship? Because it's very favorite stories.

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01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: You ghost writing for a lot of people? Really, I

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01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: think he mentioned a couple of them already. Yeah, I

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01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: mean everybody who who I wrote without? It's pretty much

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01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: public knowledge. I tweeted this the other day too. I

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01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: never secretly wrote for nobody, contrary to popular belief. I

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01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: don't know why people think that, but I really haven't.

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01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: So who did you write for? Publicly? I wrote for Puff,

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01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: that's right, Hen't afraid to say that? Not Yeah, I

1141
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: wrote for Dre I wrote them. Afraid to say that

1142
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: I wrote the message on the chronic album I wrote.

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01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: I wrote tell Me with Christina Aguilera for Puff on

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01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: the Space Hold On You A R and B Burgers Too.

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01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: Version I thought you made Christina. I said, what on

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01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: the song that I know? I thought you make you

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01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: wrote with Christina Alara. I'm like, Nick, what's the one? Okay?

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01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: I wish, but um, yeah, I wrote that. I wrote

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01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: up the original Exploment. Oh yeah, yeah, I wrote yeah

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Speaker 1: with some of the Ship that I wrote on Dre

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01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: album that didn't make the album. Some of that is

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01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: like on he said, the original Explosion record another I

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01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: took a I'm trying. Is there anybody else? I don't

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01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: think I wrote for nobody else? Oh yeah, bro, for

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01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: who cannabis? Cannabis? Say that? Oh yeah, who, Who's who?

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01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: You write for cannabis? Come on? He got serious. I

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01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: totally forgot all about that. Man. It's something serious, right,

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01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: it was. I was in I was in the lab

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Speaker 1: one time. Oh my god, he's gonna he's gonna want

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Speaker 1: to kill me for this. But I was in the

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Speaker 1: lab with cannabis back in the day and ships and

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01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: he um, I don't know, man, he must have reached

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01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 1: like a point in his life man where he just

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01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: kind of like throwing his hands up with this ship.

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01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: So he was like, we were like working on the

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01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: song and ship, and I laid my verse, and he

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01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, man, that ship sounds crazy. And he

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01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: was like should You can probably just go ahead and

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01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 1: write the whole song if you want to. And I

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01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: was like, what you know, you hear somebody say some

1171
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: ships just can't quite believe it, so you make him

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01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: repeat it just to make sure you ain't tripping. So

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01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: I was like you, what'd you say? So he basically

1174
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: was asking me to write the whole song, so I

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01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: would just I was like, listen, bro, you a legend.

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01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: Bro Like, I started just talking him off the edge,

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01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: talking to him off the ledge, and I was just

1178
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: in my mind thinking to myself, I can't do this.

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01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: You know, like you cannabis, my nigger, You're a cannabis.

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01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: So it's just like we end up we did. We

1181
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: did the song, and he ended up writing his verse.

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01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: But if he if he, if I would have wrote it,

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01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: he would have let me this cannabis is cannabis, of course.

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01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: And before the battle that he did, this is what

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01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying after this is this is post post alien cannabis.

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01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: That's that's the good the alien is. When he had

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01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: he had the battle with no rhymes, cannabis, Oh my god,

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01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: did you see that for this. Come on, man, let's

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01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: not that's my man. I love him, I know, I know,

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Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, but he did this before. It

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01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: was before that. It was before. It was a while back.

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01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: It was a while back. It has to be before that.

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01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: So cannabis actually the writers wrong. I forgot all about it.

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01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: This just brought it back to my testa. Man. I

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01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: wanted to forget it. Keno got un. I'm saying out

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01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,439
Speaker 1: to cannabis to take cannabis, want to take in a way.

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01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: But Royce did get asked to right as around one day.

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01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that's it. That's one time. That's

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Speaker 1: just kind of crazy. Bro. Now, slaughter House, you and

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01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 1: Joey have this little quarrel. How does joe I mean, uh,

1201
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: we don't understand the song, but and then we understand

1202
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: that the name of the song was actually called slaughter

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01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: How do y'all take it serious? From there? How do

1204
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: y'all say all? You know what? It went so fast, bro,

1205
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: we um as soon as the reaction happened to the

1206
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: song that was back, I was just starting to become

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01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: a little bit in that savvy. Joe was already in

1208
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: that savvy from from the gate. He had a really

1209
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: really really good understanding how to market things via the Internet,

1210
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: and just he was he had a good day, he

1211
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 1: had a good gage, just when things were special verses,

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01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: when they were just regular verses and it didn't matter

1213
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: at all. So he hit me back with Keeno on

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01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: the three way again. So he says, he says, yo,

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01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: he said, he said, you see that. You see the reaction, right,

1216
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: And I was like, I kind of seen it a

1217
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: little bit. He was like, yeah, man, we gotta do

1218
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: more ship, We got to do more stuff. I was like,

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01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: all right, man, I'm cool. I'm cool with that. He

1220
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: was like I told him. I was like me and

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01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,439
Speaker 1: you should me and you should do some more ship,

1222
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: like we should do an album or something. And Keno

1223
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: was like, all, y'all nigga should do an album. Y'all

1224
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: all should do it. He's saying the house. So I

1225
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, now, at that time, I'm

1226
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 1: gonna go even deeper. I forgot about this. Yeah, I

1227
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: was a drunk. So at that time I heard of

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01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: Joe l Ortiz and I was aware that he was

1229
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: a monster, right crooked. I was aware that he was

1230
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: a monster Crooked I didn't really like because I asked

1231
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: that negg to do a song and he told me, yeah,

1232
01:06:58,280 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 1: he never did it. So I took that ship first.

1233
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's how I used to be. That's

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01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: how I used to be. I used to take everything personal,

1235
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 1: all right, all right, so um and Crook that is

1236
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: coming off of death Row. Yeah now he was yeah,

1237
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: yeah it was it was was he still yeah, it

1238
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 1: was kind of okay. Yeah. So um, I was like,

1239
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: all right, man, whatever we could do that. So we

1240
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: started every time I would go to New York. She

1241
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: basically wasn't feeling that idea. No, I was not that

1242
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't feeling it just wasn't like now I was.

1243
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: I was in to do whatever. I was in to

1244
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: do whatever. But my first impulse, my first instinct was

1245
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: for me and Joe to do more ship. So when

1246
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: when it when it came, like, when the idea came,

1247
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: now you should stay working with all of them, yeah,

1248
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: just do it do it like that, like okay, So

1249
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 1: I was like cool. I was cool with that idea too,

1250
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: but I just knew I had to kind of like

1251
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: get to know dudes and ship like that. So what

1252
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: we did was we ran an idea by everybody, and

1253
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: everybody was with it. So we were just all whenever

1254
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: we were playing times to go to New York and

1255
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 1: then we would meet up at Joe's crib talk about

1256
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: forming a group on camera and ship like that and

1257
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 1: let the internet kind of follow ship as it manifested

1258
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: itself organically into whatever it was gonna be, you know.

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01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: So and then it was like, in the meantime, we'll

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01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: we'll continue to do music together. So the next song

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01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 1: we did was a song called Onslaught, And that's when

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01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 1: we realized that, you know, like, because I was at

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01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 1: the very beginning when we all of us felt like

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01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 1: we want to each of us felt like we want

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01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 1: to have the best verse on every song. So that's

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01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: when we got a dose motherfucking Crooked Eye. He came

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01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: in late, heard our verses, laid his ship, and I

1268
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: was just like, all right, man, well if he had

1269
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 1: the best version over, you know what I'm saying. So,

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01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean it just started working like that. So before

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01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: we even did the album, we was already doing the

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01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: Rock the Bells tour. We was already touring together as

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01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: a group. So I had heard that um I had

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01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: read obviously, I forget what your magazine that it was like,

1275
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 1: uh uh, Slaughterhouse was Eminem's version of the Firm, Like

1276
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,759
Speaker 1: I forget what. Yeah, but keep in mind they were

1277
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: successful independently before I'm assuming before m even thought about

1278
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 1: sign firm. Yeah, as soon as um, as soon as

1279
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: we put the album out on EAT one. In the

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01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: first album I thought the first album was on Yeah,

1281
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 1: that's the second second they were touring. I remember, y'all. Yeah,

1282
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: I saw like a lot of stuff on the internet

1283
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: that y'all, it was really successful independently. Yeah, we pretty much. Um,

1284
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 1: we found the sailing, We found our sailing independently. Yeah,

1285
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 1: I'm told with Tech nine, right, we put the shout

1286
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: out the Tech nine that's my guy. We put the

1287
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: album out on EAT one, and there's a number one

1288
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: independent album in the country and makes a noise of

1289
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 1: that guy, Darren. So when we did that, when we

1290
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 1: did that, that got the attention to Shape, That got

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01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 1: the attention of all the major labels. And that he

1292
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: was already like, no, friends with the people from Shady

1293
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:12,600
Speaker 1: he was friends with them. No, not really, And just

1294
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: sit backtrack a little bit. Why hadn't you had a

1295
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,679
Speaker 1: project on Shady. I mean we talked about it because

1296
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 1: me and Marshall stopped talking. So that was the reason

1297
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: why it was gonna happen. If that hadn't happened, Oh well, yeah,

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01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 1: I think so, because uh he he established that company

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01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: a little bit after I saw him. You remember, like

1300
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: I got a deal right after him. It was like yeah,

1301
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 1: and I saw good Man said I'm used to it,

1302
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: so we we um he got a deal, he got

1303
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: his deal. I started working with him, and I immediately

1304
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 1: signed this deal with Tommy Boy. Seeing me, they're saying,

1305
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 1: I'm sorry when I got When I got to deal

1306
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: with Tommy Boy, I never had a problem getting a

1307
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: deal again. After that, I went right to Sony. After

1308
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: time By dropped me, I went to Sony and got

1309
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: another million dollars, you know what I'm saying. So I

1310
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: did that. By that time, Shady was already established, but

1311
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 1: I never was in a position where it was like, yeah,

1312
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: I need a record deal. He executive produced my album

1313
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: on Sony, so he was always a part of it,

1314
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: but we just never did it on his on his label.

1315
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: So after we stopped talking, ship, so many years went by,

1316
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: so much happened in his life, so much happened in

1317
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: my life. So when we formed slaughter House, that when

1318
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: we signed the deal with Shady with slaughter House, that

1319
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: was me and M's first time actually sitting down like

1320
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: in this manner. We talked on the phone a couple

1321
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: of times, but just the way we're sitting and talking

1322
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: now and just reflecting as men. It was after the

1323
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: slaughter House deal. Yeah, but how many other niggas was hey,

1324
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: and let's just keep it real, Hayden, Like who like,

1325
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 1: you know, because all of them niggas know that you know,

1326
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: ever House, Like I mean, like I mean this is

1327
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: because I know a lot of niggs were like, damn,

1328
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 1: like you noticed, we don't bro you know what? Many

1329
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: everybody was just so happy, just so happy to be. Yeah.

1330
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: It was kind of like we was in our We

1331
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: was in this in this situation in our lives where

1332
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 1: it was like Motherfucker's had wrote us off years ago,

1333
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 1: you know, So it was like it was like another

1334
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: shot at this ship on a major scale, you know

1335
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,719
Speaker 1: what I mean. So everybody was just happy to everything

1336
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 1: we went through individually to form this group out of nowhere.

1337
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: We didn't plan it. It just happened. And now we're

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01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: sitting in the room with this motherfucker who was like

1339
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 1: a megastar. Hey, you know, man, Like you can't really

1340
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 1: gauge how anybody feels their first time sitting around him,

1341
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 1: because whenever I'm around them and I see people meet

1342
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: him for the first time, they're never theirselves. People weirdest

1343
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: funk around him, man. So it's like it's all yeah, man,

1344
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: it's like it's crazy to see some Beatles, you know

1345
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 1: that type of yeah. So it was just, you know,

1346
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: definitely no, definitely, no hate. Everybody was just everybody was happy. Man.

1347
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: So now Joe Biden again, he has a show. His

1348
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: show is lit. He can choose to use his platform

1349
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 1: in a way where if his opinion matters, and his

1350
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: opinion because swayed people a certain way, he shouldn't, but

1351
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: he doesn't. Eminem drops this album, Joe goes on, and

1352
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: Joe says, I don't remember. I don't want to word

1353
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 1: for word his words, so I don't remember. But it basically,

1354
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: in power phrasing, he's saying this album is not m

1355
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: it's not good. Everyone is mad. If he sent goes on,

1356
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: he threatens him, say he's gonna get an ask whipping,

1357
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: and you as a sort of house brother, you as

1358
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: a brother to Eminem, you as a friend of Eminem

1359
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: and as a friend of Joey. Where do you stand

1360
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: in that? How do you feel at that very moment?

1361
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 1: I mean told him how I felt. I'm kind of

1362
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: like man told I told Joey how I felt about it?

1363
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 1: You know, like has one second? Let me interrupt for

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01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: a quick Drink Champs message. Did you know that every

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Speaker 1: single episode of Drink Champs and I'm talking to you,

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1382
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm at a point man where I don't really like

1383
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: talking about it, and we're gonna talk about it. But

1384
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you why before. Every time I

1385
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 1: say something about it, man, it's like this, the topic

1386
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: excelf itself grows new legs again. Like Joey got this

1387
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:28,759
Speaker 1: thing man, where he can't stop. He can't stop mentioning

1388
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 1: things for views, even at the expense of like how

1389
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 1: his friends feel and ship like that, Like he caught

1390
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 1: up in his world right now. So it's like, that's

1391
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 1: not really my character, it's not my personality. It's like

1392
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: to keep talking about something that's not even really it's

1393
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: not important to him. He hasn't talked about it, you

1394
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like Joe went on there and

1395
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 1: he said something about the song. It's a song, Um

1396
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: that input out. Joe said a bunch of badshit about

1397
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 1: the song. I felt like Joe went a little too hard,

1398
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: especially especially knowing you have a deal with this. Yeah,

1399
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I feel like he entitled

1400
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: to his opinion. You know, he's entitled to his opinion.

1401
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 1: It's very difficult to talk about it and talk about

1402
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: the execution of it without it looking like you're trying

1403
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 1: to tell him he can't have his opinion, you know

1404
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like I'm always real careful

1405
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 1: with what I um, what I say, and what I

1406
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 1: don't say in regards to him, you know what I mean,

1407
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:26,600
Speaker 1: Because this is like the sting looming now, where's like

1408
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: every time I say something, everybody is like looking at

1409
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 1: me like I'm just rights again, keeping keeping for the

1410
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: white boy, like being being too loyal that they're trying

1411
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 1: to say. Yeah. But the thing about it is when

1412
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 1: we have a sense of history, we have to sort

1413
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 1: of respect that history. Meaning it's like, and I'm gonna

1414
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 1: say this, and I'm probably sure he's gonna be mad

1415
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 1: for saying me saying this, but trag is my man,

1416
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: right and trash. You know, he recently called me about

1417
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 1: something said and I immediately said sorry because I didn't

1418
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 1: mean to say what I said what it got us

1419
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: or what I said and so immediately I said sorry,

1420
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: And I think he didn't even was expecting that. I

1421
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 1: think he was just like, oh ship what like he

1422
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: wanted me to be the old normy where I was

1423
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 1: like and I was so so what I'm what I'm

1424
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 1: trying to say is you, on one hand, jokes should

1425
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 1: have he should have his opinion. But on the second hand,

1426
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,759
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a sort, it's a sign

1427
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 1: of disloyalty. It's a sign because at the end of

1428
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: the day. And if I'm just use you for example,

1429
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 1: because you just came from the bathroom, right, if and

1430
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 1: you open up a pizza shop, right, your piece is hard, right,

1431
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:56,719
Speaker 1: I appreciate what I'm just saying. Please just use PiZZ Sorry,

1432
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna over there on Wednesdays because my brother,

1433
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 1: because I'm your brother, and I'm gonna just open up,

1434
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 1: like if you ever asked me, you know, how do

1435
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,680
Speaker 1: you like the pizza, then I'm gonna tell you, not

1436
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 1: in front of people though, from the public, and no, no, no,

1437
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 1: if it's a camera around, But guess what, as a brother,

1438
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna still go to a

1439
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 1: piece of shop on Wednesdays. That's just it was one

1440
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 1: of those things where it was like, Okay, when I

1441
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: when I first seen it, loyalty wasn't really what popped

1442
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 1: into my head. It was more like a respect respect thing,

1443
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, respecting loyal brother. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1444
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 1: so um than just you know, the verbis has been

1445
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 1: like the verbiage that's been used. It's been sparkling all

1446
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 1: kinds of different different conversations and opening up all kinds

1447
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 1: of different new narratives and ship like that. It's just

1448
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 1: been like it's like a it's like a playground for

1449
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: like semantics and you know what I'm saying, like twisting

1450
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 1: words around and ship like that. But the very rawest

1451
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: way look at it, it's just you use the wrong

1452
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: words talking about somebody. You don't have to be loyal,

1453
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 1: just be respectful, not just with Marshall, with anybody, you

1454
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like there's a difference in me

1455
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 1: saying I'm not feeling that than me saying that ship

1456
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,719
Speaker 1: trash throw it in rice, you know what I'm saying.

1457
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: It's like, so when I looked at that, it wasn't

1458
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, Marsha was mad. It was ill because I

1459
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 1: didn't really even talk to him about it like that.

1460
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: Not that big of a deal, But it's just kind

1461
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 1: of unfortunate to see somebody that you cool with to

1462
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 1: do that kind of ship at this juncture in our careers,

1463
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's just like, damn, it's

1464
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 1: like you're just throwing relationships away for no reason, you

1465
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's just like, it's just

1466
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: from where I was sitting, how I felt it just

1467
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: so happened. It Right after it happened, I go on

1468
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 1: this press run and it's it's getting brought up to

1469
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 1: me and I'm mentioning it, and I guess I'm not

1470
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 1: being as as careful as I could have been with

1471
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 1: the words I'm choosing, you know what I'm saying. So

1472
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 1: that's why it keeps turning into the conversation over and

1473
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: over again. But at the end of the day, it's

1474
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 1: not that big of a deal. It's just he gave

1475
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 1: his opinion, he did it his way, it got received

1476
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 1: a certain way. I've seen it. I picked up on it.

1477
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: I told him how I felt about it, and that

1478
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: was really it. It wasn't really Yeah, we'll see, that's bizarre.

1479
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 1: You know, it's a it's a personal thing. We don't

1480
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:22,759
Speaker 1: like niggas. Don't like niggas talking like that about their friends.

1481
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: I'm the same way about all my friends or even

1482
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: when Joe, you know, like that's my that's my nigga.

1483
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: So it's like when he did the battle, um, when

1484
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 1: when he did my battle, the shady battle, the shady

1485
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 1: battle with hollow the dun huh shop. I looked the

1486
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 1: world right and they face and Ebro asked me in

1487
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 1: front of the whole world, who just won that. I

1488
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 1: was like, ship Joe did. Now, I'm not gonna lie

1489
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 1: you out of your mind. You I'm gonna tell you

1490
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:56,600
Speaker 1: what it wasn't it was. It wasn't a soul that

1491
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 1: could get me to say that my nigga just lost it.

1492
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 1: All that's because you were the lawyer said that's it.

1493
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. So it's like, pardon me for

1494
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: looking at it like that. It's just the type of

1495
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 1: person that I am. But don't mean I'm right. It

1496
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 1: just mean that's how I feel. You know what I'm saying.

1497
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 1: Nothing's gonna sway my judgment from that, So right, I

1498
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 1: respect that man. That's grown man talk. You know what

1499
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And you know, as a journalist, you know,

1500
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 1: I had to look at and and um, you know,

1501
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 1: thinking what Joe but Come was coming from. But um,

1502
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 1: you know, and I respect to shut out of him,

1503
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:30,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But sometimes it's just like,

1504
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 1: you know, my opinion with my family is just gonna

1505
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 1: be my opinion with my family. And and that's just

1506
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 1: basically it, you know what I mean. I want to

1507
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 1: respect him. I understand what he does. I actually acknowledge

1508
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 1: what he does. And I actually think what he do

1509
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: is is dope and his world, you know what I'm saying,

1510
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 1: He's on his world and when we get the same

1511
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 1: and but you know, when it comes to family, I

1512
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 1: would rather keep family business within family. Like there's a

1513
01:21:57,960 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 1: whole bunch of ship I can tell you about the

1514
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 1: poem right down. I'm gonna wait until next week. The

1515
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 1: first time I seen that's between me and then that's

1516
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 1: my brother. I love him, and that's that's it's gonna ride.

1517
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 1: And he canna tell you a bunch of ship about me,

1518
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 1: And that's great. The first time I saying Capone, you know,

1519
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 1: I never met him. I never met Capone. The first

1520
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: time I seen him was here in Miami, way back

1521
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:20,799
Speaker 1: in the day when they used to rent the scooters

1522
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: when we came here. I've seen him, bro. He was

1523
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 1: wow wilding out on the police, wilding out on the police,

1524
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 1: and he got arrested. Goddamn it, that's like the middle

1525
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 1: then you can rest was he was wilding out on

1526
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 1: the pet arrested. And I'm gonna tell you something. The

1527
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 1: police are scared of ship. They're scared of ship. Remember

1528
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 1: that he was crazy. Remember that you here with me

1529
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 1: when that when Capone was down here wilder, They're gonna

1530
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 1: shoot you out here, right. That's let's sake some looise

1531
01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 1: for those days when you could talk about I don't

1532
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 1: know that and be black. But nowadays, drosprepable is not

1533
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 1: happening that sweet Let's be quiet and know that's real, man,

1534
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 1: because Ferguson how you feel about things like that, man, U,

1535
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, being a black man, like you know, I'm

1536
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 1: being honest with you. I said this on the podcast

1537
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Um. One time I just left

1538
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 1: my house and I had it to the store. My

1539
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 1: wife was like, I'll drive You's like all right, cool.

1540
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 1: I jumped in the drain of my wife. My wife

1541
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: put on a hoodie, she had no makeup, and she

1542
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:43,640
Speaker 1: sincerely just drove to the store on a hoodie. I

1543
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,639
Speaker 1: can't do that as a black man. As a black man,

1544
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 1: if I get in a car, I got the Yeah. Like,

1545
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 1: I literally looked at my wife. I hated on my

1546
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 1: wife for twelve seconds. Yeah, I was like, I kind

1547
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 1: of hate you. You know, she's a Latina's you know,

1548
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 1: she's Cubans Puerto Rican and the cops don't people funk

1549
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 1: about her having a hoodie on, and that ship fucked

1550
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 1: me up. I mean, it's it's it's it's disheartening, man,

1551
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,560
Speaker 1: it's disheartening. It's it's just and it's it's not just

1552
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 1: now happening, man. Like if you think back, if you

1553
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 1: think back then when Iced team made cop Killer, because

1554
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 1: these guys from these errors, man, they put their lives

1555
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 1: on the line, like Iced Tea took the cops to

1556
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 1: war for us so we can have more freedom in

1557
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 1: our speech. Yeah, so cop Killer, cop Killer came from

1558
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 1: cops killing black kids, you know what I mean. So

1559
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: this is something that always was going on. We just

1560
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 1: got the internet, so we were privy to the information

1561
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 1: faster and you can't that you can't sneak that ship

1562
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 1: past us. We see more of it. I mean, it's

1563
01:24:55,800 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: happening more, but it's always fucking existing, bro always. My

1564
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 1: big brother, My big brother just got arrested. Um, he

1565
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: had a gun on him. He was at the liquor store.

1566
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 1: The first thing I thought of was like, shoot, that

1567
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: could have been way worse. He could have died because

1568
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, they just they seen him

1569
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: walking to the door and they just ran down on him,

1570
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:19,560
Speaker 1: grabbed him up. Said he looked like he had a

1571
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 1: pistol on him. Grab him up and he had a

1572
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 1: pistol on him. What if he to try to run?

1573
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 1: The shot him, you know what I mean? So it's

1574
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:29,560
Speaker 1: God bless. Now, being from Michigan, I would like you

1575
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 1: to describe the Flint what a crisis and what because

1576
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people think that this is still unresolved.

1577
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: It's still unresolved. A lot of people think this is

1578
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 1: actually like an Instagram thing. A lot of people don't

1579
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 1: think this is real. A lot of people think that

1580
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: this is like color correction. This is um what's it

1581
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 1: called photo shop? Can you describe or what's what's going on?

1582
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,600
Speaker 1: Off there to your nomics. You want me to describe it,

1583
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: like you want me to run down, like what's going

1584
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 1: on or what where they are with it? Is they're

1585
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 1: getting better? You know, it's not it's it's it's definitely

1586
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 1: not getting better. It's it's definitely a it's a corrupt

1587
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 1: it's a corruption situation. It's a political thing. Yeah, of course,

1588
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 1: of course, just like with anything else. And I don't

1589
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 1: really know what the funk we could do to rectify it.

1590
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people donated money. I'm not

1591
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 1: so sure where the money went, you know what I mean, Like,

1592
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know where they are with fixing it.

1593
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Like the world is so fucked

1594
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 1: up and there's so much stuff happening. It's kind of

1595
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 1: hard to keep up with everything that's sucked up, you know,

1596
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 1: Like Detroit is just coming we're just coming back from bankruptcy. Man,

1597
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 1: it's a city. There's so much going on. There's so

1598
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 1: much going on in our story. But I remember I

1599
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 1: went to Detroit one night and I went to like

1600
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 1: a casino and it was lit. And then I drove

1601
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 1: off the casino for six blocks there was no lights.

1602
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 1: Six blocks straight. I was like, oh, I thought it

1603
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 1: was lined up. Ever, I was like, oh, they on it,

1604
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 1: get us like somebody's coming from somewhere and six and

1605
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 1: then and then it looked back up again, and I

1606
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 1: was like, this is amazing. But no one never put

1607
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 1: that on the news back then. No one never, like,

1608
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 1: because they don't want to expose the whole They called

1609
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 1: motor City for a reason. The whole industry was destroyed

1610
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 1: in that area, and they don't want to put that

1611
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 1: on the news and destroys the old country. You know,

1612
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 1: we we own a resurgence right now. You know, usually

1613
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 1: when things get that bad, only good ship can happen

1614
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 1: after that. That's right. So that's right. We got a

1615
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 1: lot of we got a lot of artists doing their thing,

1616
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 1: a lot of artists deals, a lot of artists getting recognition.

1617
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 1: Big big up, big up, my brochean. It's like, you know,

1618
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 1: and it's it's a lot the areas are improving, you

1619
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it's a good it's a

1620
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 1: good place to buy real estate. You know, it's just

1621
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 1: it's just turning. It's turning back into that beautiful motown

1622
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 1: fielded it used to be. That's in our lineage. Okay,

1623
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,559
Speaker 1: so I gotta come more questions before I go, because

1624
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 1: I'll take a bathroom break. I seemed to go a

1625
01:27:55,040 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: bathroom break. It's cheating, um, But this is one of

1626
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:04,720
Speaker 1: the funniest questions I've been wanting to ask forever. Right now,

1627
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm not talking status. I'm not talking money. Who's the

1628
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 1: most famous rapper in the world. I say Snoop Dogg

1629
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 1: in the world, in the world. Now, I'm not talking Look,

1630
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:26,640
Speaker 1: jay Z, PAULF and m they're all famous, and but

1631
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: that that's all. We're talking money. No, No, you just

1632
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 1: meaning this. You're man, who's the most famous rapper currently? Period?

1633
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: Because if you're talking fame, you gotta that's Snoop is

1634
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 1: the most every Snoop is one of Snoop is one

1635
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: of the most iconic. For sure. I'm I'm not saying

1636
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,520
Speaker 1: like like like business wise. I'm saying you're saying recognizable.

1637
01:28:56,560 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 1: You're recognizable. It's gotta be Snoop man. Come on, Royce,

1638
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 1: go rode me, Royce, come on, Chris Eminem though you

1639
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 1: think about it, let me think about it. Bro I

1640
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 1: don't think about it. But now it's not gonna be

1641
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 1: not right now, right, I don't think right now now,

1642
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 1: right now, right now in general is now everybody is

1643
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:28,720
Speaker 1: grandmother says something about Snoop doggy Dog's not generational. You

1644
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,799
Speaker 1: just mean it's kind of his famous. Everyone knows what snoopid.

1645
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 1: You would be hard pressed if somebody didn't recognize Drake anywhere. No, no, okay,

1646
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 1: I don't agree. I don't know. I don't agree. He's

1647
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 1: still like ten years in the game, so you have

1648
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 1: to have ten years of listening to music. Snoop is yeah,

1649
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 1: of course, of course Stoopid is up there. But I

1650
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 1: don't know why. I say, Eminem Marshall, Marshall, Marshall King,

1651
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 1: but Kanye is still kind of his kind and definitely nothing.

1652
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 1: That's what. No one knows who the fund he is

1653
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 1: in Marshall Marshall can't even he can't even wear like

1654
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 1: a costume and not get recognized. I think all they

1655
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 1: have to see it's like his chain in his nose

1656
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 1: and they know. And I'm telling you from the country's

1657
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:16,600
Speaker 1: I've been to. No but I think I think Snoop

1658
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 1: is a good choice. Though brout there listen his hands

1659
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 1: in is first off, he's probably one of the most

1660
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:29,719
Speaker 1: famous people ever, right, I think he went diamond in Ireland.

1661
01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 1: There was something crazy like what I'm saying is even

1662
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:36,640
Speaker 1: him he has a particular crowd. Jay Z has a

1663
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 1: particular crowd. Snoop doesn't. He's like ungentrified. I don't know

1664
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 1: if that's the word. I'm pretty sure we know what

1665
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 1: you mean. Yeah, I still think it's I think Emmin

1666
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 1: and stop actually are I think is this is this

1667
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:56,440
Speaker 1: just limited to two artists because we had this conversation

1668
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 1: partist hip hop, we had this conversation. We had this

1669
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 1: conversation about celebrities period. I want to see what you

1670
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:03,840
Speaker 1: mean these people we were gonna get. That's I mean

1671
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 1: a little different though you're all ready for this Barack Obama.

1672
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 1: It's the most recognizable person, yes, okay, I agree in

1673
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 1: this motherfucker in years. Yes, there is no there is

1674
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 1: nobody that's more recognized. He's the most missed right now. Yeah,

1675
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 1: but I still think Snoop is the most Listen his

1676
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 1: voice too, his voice too, Listen, Sloop. Everyone knows who

1677
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 1: we are. They're like they like even if your grandma's

1678
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 1: corner like Snoopy, Snoop like a cool like Jade, look

1679
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:50,600
Speaker 1: at me jade pop, and they did the best financially,

1680
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 1: you know best financially, but they all got reach still

1681
01:31:56,240 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 1: level of finances and kind of fell back. Snoop just never.

1682
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 1: Snoop does all kinds of different genres of music and

1683
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 1: he got it. Just drive the gospel album he's killing.

1684
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 1: Just make noise for Snoop the week from Bill Red

1685
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 1: Sloop driving the Gospel out. Drenk Champs alumni, Drink Champs

1686
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 1: and alumni, thank you for being the part of Drink

1687
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:24,799
Speaker 1: Champs early. But um, I just for me, for me personally,

1688
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 1: I think Snoop is the most famous. I think his

1689
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 1: neck and neck him and them. I think I think

1690
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 1: his neck and neck with him and Barack about rappers. Bro,

1691
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 1: you're going to a whole the world, all right, But

1692
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 1: I just say there, but he said, he said in general,

1693
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying Snoop and Rock is neck and neck. They

1694
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 1: can both go to Hawaii and Snoop by your mom

1695
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 1: before Barack. I'm just throwing it out there. I'm just

1696
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you be I've been with Snoop everywhere

1697
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 1: like I have to, but the only place they don't

1698
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 1: marvel was in l A. Because they're just like I

1699
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 1: think it was. Yeah is that listen listen the other day, right,

1700
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 1: it must be three hundred and sixteen pounds, right, So yeah,

1701
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 1: So I used to place that I moved to a

1702
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 1: jogged every day six six like almost six years. I

1703
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 1: tried to just jogging, right And when I first moved there,

1704
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,639
Speaker 1: all these guys they would love to see me. Yo,

1705
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 1: I just jogged in yesterday. The things is likely what

1706
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 1: was this? That? What is? But what I'm trying to

1707
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 1: say is they get tired of everybody. But what I'm

1708
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 1: trying and if you understand what I just said, they

1709
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 1: get used to you. They so I'm nothing to see

1710
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 1: these guys right now, I jogged birthday on you show.

1711
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,679
Speaker 1: Once you show them you accessible, that's it it because

1712
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 1: maybe you become you become a person now you that

1713
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 1: hip hop? Yeah, of course you know a after they

1714
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 1: get like after they get used to you, they really

1715
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 1: just like you actually either have to have another hustle,

1716
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 1: another scheme, another oil. They don't they really don't funk

1717
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 1: with you. They like that with the verses, the songs.

1718
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 1: Even when I got a car, like the first car

1719
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:27,640
Speaker 1: I bought, when I started making money again, it was

1720
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 1: like I was driving it and it was like, damn,

1721
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:32,680
Speaker 1: they go Royce that car. Two weeks later it was like,

1722
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 1: I ain't nothing but a cart car, ain't I'm saying. So,

1723
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:40,599
Speaker 1: it's just like you put out a song, they loved

1724
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 1: the song, put you put it out again. It's kind

1725
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 1: of in the same chamber. Then it's like, all right,

1726
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 1: now what else can you do? But that ever bothered

1727
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 1: you about rap? When you where after they get used

1728
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 1: to you, you're not really as appreciated because even whole

1729
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:58,759
Speaker 1: like hold four for fourth, it was as a dope album,

1730
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:00,680
Speaker 1: but they gave one week go than a half a

1731
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 1: week or two. They moved on this. This is the

1732
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 1: generation we live and it's the disposable. But I don't

1733
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 1: think it exclusive to hip hop right now. I think

1734
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:13,760
Speaker 1: that's yeah, yeah, I'm just saying that. Yeah, they don't

1735
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 1: bother me at all, you know what I mean? Like,

1736
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 1: if anything, it gives you a better understanding of what

1737
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:21,640
Speaker 1: you're dealing with, and you you know you can you

1738
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 1: learned man that it's not really it's much about you

1739
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 1: what you think it is as artists, it's more about

1740
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:32,640
Speaker 1: the service you could provide. I would say, you know,

1741
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:34,679
Speaker 1: but you know you know, I don't think what we're

1742
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 1: realizing that's happening right now. We could literally put out

1743
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 1: something wait a second, and put it out again. Yeah,

1744
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 1: that's the crazy motherfucker's new. People will be like, oh,

1745
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 1: this is a new ship that just came out. Now

1746
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:49,719
Speaker 1: you're not gonna say it's news, but you can literally

1747
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,599
Speaker 1: put it out again, and it's like it's new guys.

1748
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:57,120
Speaker 1: Algorithms are changing and it's just hitting new people. And

1749
01:35:57,280 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 1: that's something that I think people aren't realizing that's happening

1750
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:01,560
Speaker 1: right now. You don't know because we're not We're not

1751
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 1: the ones making the technology, because you know why, I

1752
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what you mean, what what it means

1753
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 1: is like back in the days, we just thought the

1754
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 1: record and you would know within that first month or

1755
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 1: two if this record is reacted or not, and then

1756
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 1: you would move on. You would say I'm moving to

1757
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 1: the next single, or you say I'm gonna keep pushing

1758
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 1: this tell us all six of months later. But here's

1759
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 1: the crazy thing. We I just threw out the record,

1760
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 1: what for real? And I'm thinking, okay, it did fair

1761
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:33,559
Speaker 1: then decent, you know, we gotta whatever, And the guys

1762
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 1: just like so I keep pushing to drop the video

1763
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:39,680
Speaker 1: with me, and for which this is, this is, this

1764
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 1: is right now, this recond this is this is so

1765
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 1: I said, and the guys that said please, we don't

1766
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 1: actually want to drop the video. So I'm like, why,

1767
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 1: like because we have seven million streams on the actually

1768
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 1: record and once we dropped the video like the ship drop,

1769
01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 1: and I was just like, the moment is not the

1770
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:04,600
Speaker 1: error I come not know. I'm a dinosaurs saying, we

1771
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:08,479
Speaker 1: got to realize this. I don't have a plaque. I'm

1772
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 1: middle rolled, I'm right in the middle of my rollout

1773
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 1: right now, and I'm learning new ship because you know,

1774
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 1: just introducing the whole streaming aspect into it, it just changes.

1775
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 1: It changes everything from what it used to be. When

1776
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 1: I first got to the bas we survived like three

1777
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 1: different three different So when they told me that, they're like,

1778
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:32,720
Speaker 1: they're like because because I couldn't believe it, Like I

1779
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:35,560
Speaker 1: was like, they weren't in the rush to come to

1780
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:37,719
Speaker 1: put out the video I'm talking about we're like almost

1781
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 1: like six seven months away away, and they're like, he'll

1782
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 1: look glory through because in their minds they're like, fun,

1783
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 1: let's just keep getting the streams it pays other and

1784
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 1: I understand it, but I just don't understand it because

1785
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 1: how much I'm traditionally trained how the business ran. And

1786
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:00,680
Speaker 1: I realized I was a dinosaur. I should the funk up.

1787
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 1: I shut the funk up. And I was like, all right, cool,

1788
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But at the same time,

1789
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:08,640
Speaker 1: so now hold on, hold on, hold on, you keep

1790
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:12,720
Speaker 1: it going. I see you take a piss. I ain't

1791
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:18,760
Speaker 1: gonna You're gonna move Royce out to take a pisall. Yeah,

1792
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 1: I want to forget. So scams down here, Scam, just

1793
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:27,680
Speaker 1: just walk over at least over here. So this is

1794
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 1: my brother, Scam. You guys know each other. Can you

1795
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 1: tell me a little something about how you met scam? Scam?

1796
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 1: You gonna tell you? Tell us how you met each other.

1797
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 1: I don't even remember. Oh you know what, I'll tell

1798
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 1: you what I do remember? Shaky Green Game? Was it

1799
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 1: game Records? Right when they was doing Bad Meat to EV?

1800
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:54,800
Speaker 1: Weren't even talking about those projects too? Were those independent joints?

1801
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:58,720
Speaker 1: Just Vinyl? Yeah, just find with but you had like

1802
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:02,760
Speaker 1: singles with just saying just you by yourself? Um? Yeah,

1803
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:06,160
Speaker 1: well actually and this during the timing, boy, this is

1804
01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:08,839
Speaker 1: this is during my next deal, the Sony deal. Okay,

1805
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 1: so um yeah, one of the one of the one

1806
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 1: of the singles from off of there. What we would

1807
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 1: do was I did the album before I gave it

1808
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 1: to Sony and then Shaky Green from Gang Records. He

1809
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 1: had the rights to do the singles from off the album,

1810
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 1: so he had like this vinylity he would do where

1811
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:28,280
Speaker 1: he would put like the half naked girls on the

1812
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 1: on the cover. I thought there was a point coming

1813
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:35,759
Speaker 1: trade up like that. You know, they were actually porn

1814
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 1: stars on the cover. I don't know if it was

1815
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 1: something sometimes it was on my cover. DJ. I enjoyed

1816
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:44,640
Speaker 1: getting those those records. Yeah, that was that was that

1817
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:51,679
Speaker 1: was the plan. That was amazing records. You doing CrossFit

1818
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 1: right now. I was trying to man, I was trying

1819
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:58,719
Speaker 1: to up up. So um, you can't interrupt. I'm so sorry. Definitely,

1820
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 1: I will not CONTI he was finishing up. But we're

1821
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:05,720
Speaker 1: bringing up out him and scamming to each other. So

1822
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:09,640
Speaker 1: I remember, I mean, I'm seeing the past and you

1823
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like Detroit, scam scared Miami, Carol City, Man,

1824
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:21,640
Speaker 1: how did you meet? What type of listen documentary? But

1825
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 1: scam got a whole story with M and everything that

1826
01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:27,680
Speaker 1: goes on. So so all right, I mean me and him.

1827
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 1: He wasn't from New York, so he was just like

1828
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 1: none of us met M. Follows your lawyer, right yeah?

1829
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:38,760
Speaker 1: He was like, uh yeah, all of that. He was

1830
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 1: the undergrounds lawyer, like all the underground dudes. Is he

1831
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:48,320
Speaker 1: your lawyer too? Nah? He? Um, I met Paul through

1832
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:52,280
Speaker 1: M two. He was he was a M's lawyer and um,

1833
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 1: M should started taking off. He he just start focusing

1834
01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:58,000
Speaker 1: on management full time. He actually worked at the firm.

1835
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 1: Um cutlers at him. Yeah, with DEO set up lawyer.

1836
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah no you know yeah, yeah, so THEO was my

1837
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 1: lawyer and he worked at the front. Paul worked at

1838
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 1: the firm. Yeah. Did you you got to meet though

1839
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:17,920
Speaker 1: when you took him to the source, right, Na, Na,

1840
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:23,599
Speaker 1: I'm Royce just came through. I don't know, I don't

1841
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 1: know what you was you traveling with us when he

1842
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 1: was starting. Na. We we did a couple of stops

1843
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 1: when he before he got the deal, Like when he

1844
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:35,599
Speaker 1: went to Swaye. I was with ya all that night.

1845
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:42,280
Speaker 1: Y'all went up the stretching Bob. But they Paul kind

1846
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 1: of wanted it to be like just Detroit and the

1847
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 1: excluded Miami or he thought of he was New York Paul. Yeah, no,

1848
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:55,120
Speaker 1: he just he was a yeah, they were pro Detroit.

1849
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, you can't even had them,

1850
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:01,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But like he was saying,

1851
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:04,479
Speaker 1: when you when you were younger, you like, what the

1852
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:09,479
Speaker 1: fuss they got wrapped him? But you know, yeah, I

1853
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 1: see what they was trying to do, you wrapped or

1854
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 1: he was just he had a song. That song that's

1855
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:17,840
Speaker 1: I even got the underground ship that you do with scam.

1856
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:23,800
Speaker 1: That understand he's talking about scam. Oh that's the all

1857
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 1: moment right there. And not to get too deep into it,

1858
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 1: but you too source right, Yeah, I mean Rige Morales

1859
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 1: unsigned hype that Riggs was in scam. Regor's was going on,

1860
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 1: you're not paying for bills no more. Let's card to

1861
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 1: be around. Come on, let's look my guy. Ain't Juli

1862
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:50,519
Speaker 1: agree one? He was like, Yo, you want to you

1863
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 1: want to you know, rush on this before Stress magazine

1864
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 1: puts it out shout to Stress, you know what saying.

1865
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 1: Rigor was boom, you did it rand next month and

1866
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:00,920
Speaker 1: then it was just like, but you took him over them. Yeah,

1867
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 1: me and took the stuff over there, took them to

1868
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 1: to get on side the hype. This is, this is

1869
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:12,040
Speaker 1: very deep allegations. No, it's not allegations. This is this

1870
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 1: is my brother, so it's very deep. Paul was just

1871
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 1: passing the bar or I think he was just passing

1872
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 1: the bar rick Posada. He was the and R e lecturer.

1873
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 1: He hooked me up with him, and Paul didn't really

1874
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:29,080
Speaker 1: know the underground like that. So you want smoke brouse,

1875
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:35,080
Speaker 1: I think that's a silver Chad's the case. Man. You

1876
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 1: know this is you know this eminem Stands is like Barbies.

1877
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing it out there. They were the first

1878
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:44,439
Speaker 1: Barbies stands. You don't want the Stands in your comments

1879
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 1: right now. You better make sure everything you say is correct.

1880
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know what I'm saying. The bottom line,

1881
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:56,000
Speaker 1: he didn't really know the underground, dude, so he gave

1882
01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:58,040
Speaker 1: it to me. You know what I'm saying. I heard it.

1883
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 1: And you know the Detroit Cats they say things kind

1884
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 1: of like Miami. They say Finnim get stuck stole. I

1885
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 1: never heard nobody that wasn't from Miami. To say any

1886
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 1: of that is true, Royce, you finna get stuff stolen

1887
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 1: and stuff because I just don't give a fuck, you

1888
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I was like, Okay, I

1889
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:18,640
Speaker 1: can tell he was white, just like Front of Tonality.

1890
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 1: But I was like, Yo, it was dope, but this

1891
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 1: is you're hearing it from Paul showing it too. You yeah, yeah,

1892
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 1: And I was like, Yo, if it's dope, I get that.

1893
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 1: Everybody need to get to you know what I'm saying.

1894
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 1: Then he took it a stretch stretching Bob. So how

1895
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 1: did you already have these connects with Oh, that's just

1896
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:37,000
Speaker 1: with my art, Like I was just in New York

1897
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 1: just because you know he did damn I had to

1898
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:43,040
Speaker 1: tape and and then what stretching Bob making print calls?

1899
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:45,080
Speaker 1: I actually had that tape. No, but you know, he

1900
01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:47,840
Speaker 1: did the artwork for be Trying in Life trip called

1901
01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:51,120
Speaker 1: Quest goddamn It. And he did the first album all

1902
01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 1: the artwork inside goddamn It. So how did you go

1903
01:44:54,200 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 1: from doing underground work with scam Scam? How did you

1904
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 1: go from getting to do the to to doing the artwork.

1905
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:09,679
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. No, we was, We was hanging

1906
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 1: out and you said, fucking I'm not gonna be an artist.

1907
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:16,479
Speaker 1: I could actually design. There was no separation between church

1908
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 1: and state. For me. That's I'm art for music. I'm

1909
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:21,559
Speaker 1: all that ship and was a skater. He was he's

1910
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:26,640
Speaker 1: a skater, Yeah, a skater. Skate No not, he just

1911
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 1: said he told me that about a little bit. Folasco man,

1912
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:42,959
Speaker 1: a little bit Folasco. I never I don't live in Fiansco.

1913
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 1: He's that one Flasco A little bit, a little bit,

1914
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. But I tell you one thing, me

1915
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:53,439
Speaker 1: and him and him was in Tom Squares arguing about

1916
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:56,599
Speaker 1: whether jay Z was doping not so. At the time

1917
01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:59,639
Speaker 1: of jay z Oh Ship, this was like very important

1918
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:02,840
Speaker 1: when he was still running college radio before like like

1919
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:08,560
Speaker 1: like well like all the underground stations they used to

1920
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:12,040
Speaker 1: play I understand what you're saying. I forgot dead President

1921
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:16,640
Speaker 1: Death President like a little after that. But they was like,

1922
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 1: I was like, you know whatever, But he checked me,

1923
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 1: and he's checked you both of that, mainly him. He

1924
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:24,960
Speaker 1: was just like, yo, I see it in his face.

1925
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 1: He checked you. Definitely checked. He was like, but what

1926
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:29,720
Speaker 1: what what do you know? What? What songs you know?

1927
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:31,479
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't need to know anything.

1928
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 1: I know the singles, You're like, you don't need to

1929
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:36,400
Speaker 1: listen to it. So after that, I made it a

1930
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:39,599
Speaker 1: point to always listen to some ship before I talk

1931
01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:42,000
Speaker 1: about it. You know what I'm saying. It was from

1932
01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:44,680
Speaker 1: from that and that That's just always been my philosophy

1933
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 1: ever since that. A lot of times I had to

1934
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 1: come back and be like, oh, I see what they

1935
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:51,360
Speaker 1: were talking about. You know what I'm saying. Reasonable, that

1936
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 1: was like a bible. Man, It's like a bible. I

1937
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:59,560
Speaker 1: fought for that album all barbershops. But boy said, I

1938
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't get back to the most genuine hip hop question

1939
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 1: ever in hip hop because you said earlier, dodge the question,

1940
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:11,880
Speaker 1: Okay has down if you had to pick one unequivarate, Really,

1941
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 1: it's not because it's your man. Is did not because

1942
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:17,439
Speaker 1: the guy you grew up with it for the sake

1943
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:19,360
Speaker 1: of hip hop. If you had to save hip hop,

1944
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 1: he had to say who had the better verse? Oh

1945
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:28,719
Speaker 1: I dodged the question. Yeah, he didn't want to renegade

1946
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 1: Joy because I got want more for him too. Because

1947
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:32,920
Speaker 1: I just want you to I want you to answer

1948
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:36,639
Speaker 1: it again. I want you to reiterate, Okay, you want

1949
01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:40,760
Speaker 1: to go down that your hit past that away renegade

1950
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 1: M one renegade like I I like him verse, I

1951
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:50,160
Speaker 1: like MS versus better right, because how he was rapping

1952
01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:53,320
Speaker 1: on it is what I just prefer. Okay, but it's

1953
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:56,320
Speaker 1: you can't really say it's better than holes verse because

1954
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 1: a lot of hood people relate to holes first. More

1955
01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 1: because what m was saying was super lyrical that it

1956
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:05,639
Speaker 1: kind of went over a lot of people's hat. Okay,

1957
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:11,919
Speaker 1: what was the better disrecord, nas etha or whole takeover comes?

1958
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 1: That's a loaded question, BROO, don't know what that means?

1959
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:18,800
Speaker 1: Can I D I don't know. You better ask it

1960
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 1: right because I'm from queen what Okay, relationship with Chance

1961
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 1: I love that was? That was that bias? That was

1962
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:33,240
Speaker 1: Let let me tell you something. And I had the

1963
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 1: longest argument in the studio with Jlek about this ship

1964
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:41,400
Speaker 1: your jail electronic. Let me just tell you something. And

1965
01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 1: when you love you, you are new rock him, You

1966
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:48,160
Speaker 1: are new nas Why are you dodging a dipping needs

1967
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:51,679
Speaker 1: to take place and put your crown on. We don't

1968
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:53,880
Speaker 1: understand that, We don't know that, but we want to

1969
01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 1: encourage you wherever you at to put your motherfucking crown

1970
01:48:57,120 --> 01:48:59,719
Speaker 1: on and take fucking hip hop the way you're supposed

1971
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:02,479
Speaker 1: to take hip hop. Motherfucker, it's yours. Make some noise

1972
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:07,920
Speaker 1: for that, and that's a great brother talk right there.

1973
01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:11,720
Speaker 1: I apausized, scared. No, it's all good. I agree. I'm

1974
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:24,640
Speaker 1: listening either one right one w O na ye like

1975
01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:29,920
Speaker 1: like as in past are Ether one in the battle

1976
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:33,000
Speaker 1: that was the napalm bomb, So that song has to

1977
01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:35,280
Speaker 1: get this respect as the best. Wait, I feel like

1978
01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:37,679
Speaker 1: you're sending this up for the wrong way, and it's

1979
01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:42,599
Speaker 1: very political way. He's sober, continue and we're talking about

1980
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:50,560
Speaker 1: the best record ether one right take over. If we

1981
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:57,880
Speaker 1: just analyzing songs, it had way more lines this we

1982
01:49:57,960 --> 01:50:03,200
Speaker 1: would disagree. I just really it's a great record. Though

1983
01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:08,880
Speaker 1: a great record, NAS had better execution and better timing,

1984
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:12,560
Speaker 1: and that those are two Those are two elements in

1985
01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 1: battles that are so important that people overlook. You mean,

1986
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:21,800
Speaker 1: you can why super Ugly wasn't taking because it wasn't

1987
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:24,920
Speaker 1: the wrong thing to say that at that time. Yes,

1988
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:28,839
Speaker 1: that's why I would murder move battle somebody. He wins

1989
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:31,760
Speaker 1: sometimes and it's not because he's being more lyrical is

1990
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:34,639
Speaker 1: because he's saying the right ship. You know what I'm saying.

1991
01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:37,720
Speaker 1: It ain't always about being has something to do with it,

1992
01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:40,160
Speaker 1: always about being the better MC. A lot of people

1993
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:42,720
Speaker 1: don't like the Ether beat a lot of people, I think,

1994
01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:45,400
Speaker 1: and I think the way that they positive like they

1995
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:49,000
Speaker 1: did all the right. I like it because because of

1996
01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:51,400
Speaker 1: what Nas did to it. I like because Nas did

1997
01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:54,519
Speaker 1: to it, and I like it because he also made

1998
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:58,240
Speaker 1: jokes about it, because battling should be that serious. When

1999
01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:01,240
Speaker 1: he called him j J Evans, you called you that

2000
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:04,080
Speaker 1: ship was sold, took it back. It was it was

2001
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:07,519
Speaker 1: snapping on on and at Homes took it so serious.

2002
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:12,360
Speaker 1: And I, hands down think Ether is better than UH

2003
01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 1: take Over. And I think it's better than Super Army.

2004
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:18,320
Speaker 1: And I love jay Z, I love Rockefeller. They've been

2005
01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:21,080
Speaker 1: cutting me checks for over twenty years. I don't want

2006
01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:25,000
Speaker 1: to stop our relationship at all. Yeah, but I also

2007
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 1: have to be truthful, and I think that they respect

2008
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:30,320
Speaker 1: my truthfulness. Ether was more effective. It was more effective,

2009
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 1: and because it is, and if you don't remember, I

2010
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 1: see a lot of people wasn't really around that day

2011
01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:40,519
Speaker 1: those days, but Nas was receiving blows from every single

2012
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:44,960
Speaker 1: plus you get. You can't that NAS was the underdog

2013
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 1: at that point as well. I can't say the other dog.

2014
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:51,240
Speaker 1: I gotta say that game at that point. But let

2015
01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 1: me finish. I gotta say that when to your acknowledgement,

2016
01:51:55,600 --> 01:51:57,920
Speaker 1: he was the other dog because Jay was right there

2017
01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 1: trying to beat it, trying to be right above him

2018
01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 1: at the left was now he was not at that

2019
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 1: He tried to tell you something, it's all hip hop

2020
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:09,599
Speaker 1: and pinion. This is not at that point in time.

2021
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:12,280
Speaker 1: At that point in time, I was on Columbia with Nas,

2022
01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:16,400
Speaker 1: people were treating. When his name came up, it was

2023
01:52:16,479 --> 01:52:20,360
Speaker 1: coming up in the context of like he finished. So

2024
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:24,439
Speaker 1: then that's what I'm saying. He was was like running ship. Yeah,

2025
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:26,720
Speaker 1: that's jay Z was running ship. So it was like,

2026
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 1: that's the reason why he took the shot of the

2027
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:30,080
Speaker 1: par take over. He was coming when he was coming,

2028
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:32,200
Speaker 1: and he felt that too. When he was coming at night,

2029
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:36,599
Speaker 1: he was everybody was like, Nas just finished, got hold

2030
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 1: of coming at him, hold his bulletproof at that time.

2031
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:42,800
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying that the press. The part that

2032
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 1: you forget is that when when Takeover came out, Nas

2033
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:50,559
Speaker 1: waiting like two or three months and people were dissing

2034
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:52,880
Speaker 1: him for it, and back then you were supposed to

2035
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:55,679
Speaker 1: respond immediately, just like how this right now, I don't

2036
01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:58,600
Speaker 1: think he was gonna respond that he did. It was

2037
01:52:58,840 --> 01:53:01,280
Speaker 1: it wasn't going to be effective because it took Listen

2038
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:04,360
Speaker 1: to me, now, I sat back and kill and then

2039
01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:09,360
Speaker 1: when the finally came out, it did, and it was.

2040
01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:12,400
Speaker 1: It was the exact thing like when I seen Meek

2041
01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:17,160
Speaker 1: and Drake battling and I heard um Rick Ross say

2042
01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:21,479
Speaker 1: to me, yo, you don't have to respond immediately, wait

2043
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:25,320
Speaker 1: and take your time, and me still did what he did.

2044
01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:29,519
Speaker 1: I reminisced of that very moment of nas just sitting

2045
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:32,240
Speaker 1: back and just he just not saying nothing, and he

2046
01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:35,639
Speaker 1: waited and he like I heard the original ether case

2047
01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 1: you not. I said this on the podcast that one

2048
01:53:40,120 --> 01:53:43,080
Speaker 1: he um I feel like he went to personally, that

2049
01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:47,920
Speaker 1: was the angry version right about this. He heard about this.

2050
01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:52,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't good. It was good, but it was angry.

2051
01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:56,240
Speaker 1: So you can't really appreciate a lyricist being angry, Like

2052
01:53:56,360 --> 01:53:59,519
Speaker 1: a lyricist should never be angry. A lyricist knows that

2053
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 1: you at it. That's why your flex rest out. You're

2054
01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:04,200
Speaker 1: sitting there and you're going like this and you're laughing

2055
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:08,360
Speaker 1: and between them balls. It's like when I'm watching I

2056
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:10,840
Speaker 1: like when I'm watching battles and the battle that could

2057
01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:16,320
Speaker 1: provide like the comedy exactly be conversational. Takeover. Takeover was

2058
01:54:16,439 --> 01:54:18,640
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. It was like a

2059
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:23,160
Speaker 1: flow now. It was just all in different pockets conversation

2060
01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:26,759
Speaker 1: on either you know what I'm saying, Like your argument

2061
01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:30,679
Speaker 1: four Ether or four Takeover, I think either was. Ether

2062
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:34,480
Speaker 1: was more effective. Takeover. It was more like a record.

2063
01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:41,040
Speaker 1: When you say it's a great record, it's it's just

2064
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 1: the truth. It's a great record. It is a takeover.

2065
01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:46,640
Speaker 1: Takeover is going Takeover as a part of a classic album. Bro,

2066
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:49,160
Speaker 1: that's a classic song. That ship is going down to

2067
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 1: history forever. But you gotta pick one. You gotta pick

2068
01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:54,160
Speaker 1: one now. I just told you Ether is more effective.

2069
01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:56,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. If I'm putting on, if

2070
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm putting on, if I'm putting on one or the

2071
01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:01,200
Speaker 1: other in my car, I'm probably gonna play Ether more

2072
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm listening to the Blueprint, might not

2073
01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:07,080
Speaker 1: skip go straight to take Over. You know what I'm

2074
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 1: saying like, that's a whole classic album. So I pick

2075
01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:14,480
Speaker 1: I picked either. Yeah, I would pick Ether too. It

2076
01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:21,240
Speaker 1: just makes some voice to pick a Hope was my

2077
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:25,360
Speaker 1: man as well. And I tried to do this. No, no,

2078
01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:28,080
Speaker 1: this is hip hop. Can you put that back into

2079
01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 1: their police I definitely want to come on. This is

2080
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:33,160
Speaker 1: pure hip hop fans ship, and this is pure hip

2081
01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 1: hop discussion ship like a lot of us. Like, the

2082
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:41,880
Speaker 1: craziest thing is everyone is mad at me because I

2083
01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:45,040
Speaker 1: don't say that embody j on Reddy Game. He didn't

2084
01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 1: body him don't body and didn't say it again. People

2085
01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:57,600
Speaker 1: feel like I should admit that Jay got bodied. I

2086
01:55:57,640 --> 01:56:00,280
Speaker 1: don't feel like that because and I just know that

2087
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:02,240
Speaker 1: if I was to say, yo, I related to Jay

2088
01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:05,360
Speaker 1: Z's verse a little bit more than him, it's because

2089
01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:07,800
Speaker 1: I would get a lot of hate, right. And the

2090
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:12,000
Speaker 1: thing about it is I was against the wall awkward lefty,

2091
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:16,080
Speaker 1: you know, the ship that he was saying, the ship

2092
01:56:16,160 --> 01:56:19,480
Speaker 1: that m was saying. I knew it was lyrical ship,

2093
01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:23,520
Speaker 1: but I actually didn't live that me personally, I didn't

2094
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:29,280
Speaker 1: live you know, I didn't live what he was saying. Well,

2095
01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:32,560
Speaker 1: when Jay said I boxed the wall boxing lefty. But

2096
01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:35,160
Speaker 1: I realized if I was to ever say that publicly,

2097
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:39,320
Speaker 1: I seemed like a jay Z writer as opposed to

2098
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:43,280
Speaker 1: and my fucking five fox with him and them, I

2099
01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:47,040
Speaker 1: know his ship just as good as him. But this record,

2100
01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 1: I feel like, this is what I say, and it

2101
01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:53,560
Speaker 1: makes me seem like a foul not a foul dude.

2102
01:56:53,600 --> 01:56:55,800
Speaker 1: It makes me seem like I don't want to keep it.

2103
01:56:55,880 --> 01:57:01,160
Speaker 1: Real is, when I look at a masterpiece record, I

2104
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:03,680
Speaker 1: don't care a butt who has the better verse? Yeah

2105
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:07,560
Speaker 1: you shouldn't. You shouldn't. It's a masterpiece record. So people

2106
01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:10,080
Speaker 1: ask me every day who had the better verse or

2107
01:57:10,120 --> 01:57:12,480
Speaker 1: bad from TV? And you know what I really say,

2108
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:17,040
Speaker 1: in my heart, bad from TV the best verse. It's

2109
01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:19,680
Speaker 1: because if you're taking one of them out and you

2110
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:21,760
Speaker 1: say one of them is more important than that, that

2111
01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:26,280
Speaker 1: record is. It's not a class no more. If you

2112
01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:28,840
Speaker 1: ask the best of who shot your with the firm

2113
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:32,440
Speaker 1: all these classic records with you know, Symphony and all

2114
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 1: these classic records. Anyway, let me not get into it.

2115
01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:36,680
Speaker 1: And you say who you's got the best verse? You

2116
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:40,840
Speaker 1: actually take away from the actual record. It's just fun

2117
01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:42,560
Speaker 1: to do as a fan, you know, trying to get it.

2118
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:45,480
Speaker 1: These monsters on the same song. It's like, that's what

2119
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:48,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna do. You your favorite, but maybe what you're

2120
01:57:48,280 --> 01:57:50,360
Speaker 1: saying is like the best or whatever. It's like it's

2121
01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:52,080
Speaker 1: all subjected at the end of day. I get it.

2122
01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:53,800
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you actually take

2123
01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:56,680
Speaker 1: away from the actually record when you're not saying because

2124
01:57:56,720 --> 01:57:59,840
Speaker 1: if you say alright, cool, you take that record away,

2125
01:57:59,880 --> 01:58:03,040
Speaker 1: it's that record and not still a classicsoutely you know

2126
01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:05,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that's the thing is I started

2127
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:08,080
Speaker 1: to realize that. I started to realize I was always

2128
01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:11,840
Speaker 1: a fan until I became a fan artist, because as

2129
01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:14,520
Speaker 1: an artist, I still was a fan. I still like

2130
01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:16,840
Speaker 1: to listen to this ship. I don't give a funk.

2131
01:58:17,120 --> 01:58:20,520
Speaker 1: If I was platinum and you were fucking you know, um,

2132
01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:23,640
Speaker 1: you know you sold three records. If I was in

2133
01:58:23,840 --> 01:58:26,200
Speaker 1: your ship, I'm gonna dig get ship. That's just who

2134
01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:29,320
Speaker 1: I am, you know what I'm saying. So I'm I

2135
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:31,960
Speaker 1: don't know, man. I went in a little crissy a

2136
01:58:32,040 --> 01:58:33,800
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, this is the first time I had

2137
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:41,600
Speaker 1: green cups. This is the same Patrick Sting. So now, Pride,

2138
01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:44,640
Speaker 1: how the fund did you and the cream even initially

2139
01:58:44,840 --> 01:58:48,240
Speaker 1: DJ motherfucking Familiar, DJ motherfucking Man. So now how do

2140
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:52,360
Speaker 1: you I mean we um ever since we did like

2141
01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:54,440
Speaker 1: the first Ship, when we did Boom way back in

2142
01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:57,960
Speaker 1: the day, it was like people was kind of like

2143
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:00,720
Speaker 1: a classic record brother, thank you man. People kind of

2144
01:59:00,760 --> 01:59:03,360
Speaker 1: like you hold on, I gotta ask you Orice. That

2145
01:59:03,480 --> 01:59:06,360
Speaker 1: was on your album Boom, Yeah, that was your beat, bro,

2146
01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:10,640
Speaker 1: where this is freestyle? Boom was your beat? Damn, Bro,

2147
01:59:11,720 --> 01:59:14,000
Speaker 1: he don't even know what I'm saying. When I when

2148
01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:15,680
Speaker 1: I got to the studio when Prime, when me and

2149
01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:19,280
Speaker 1: Prim was working, He's supposed to work. He was making

2150
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:25,120
Speaker 1: the Boom beat for seeing that. Damn know this star continue.

2151
01:59:25,160 --> 01:59:32,360
Speaker 1: I didn't even know we were going there now it hurts. Yeah.

2152
01:59:32,440 --> 01:59:35,200
Speaker 1: So I get to the studio and he's making the beat.

2153
01:59:35,240 --> 01:59:37,960
Speaker 1: So I'm like, damn, I'm happy. I'm like this is

2154
01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 1: the beat. I'm I'm thinking the lines. I'm right, I'm

2155
01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:44,160
Speaker 1: jumping down. He was like, no, I'm making this for Funority,

2156
01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:46,840
Speaker 1: Nori and component them, And I'm like, I'm looking around,

2157
01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:52,520
Speaker 1: like Ship that's used to be a DA was looking

2158
01:59:52,520 --> 01:59:55,440
Speaker 1: around like where they at? You know what I'm saying,

2159
01:59:55,680 --> 01:59:59,120
Speaker 1: You're just so you know, please remember exactly where you

2160
01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:02,160
Speaker 1: was at. You know, I hate it Premier the first

2161
02:00:02,200 --> 02:00:05,560
Speaker 1: time I worked because we paid him off front. We

2162
02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:07,760
Speaker 1: was just so much fans. They were like, yo, he

2163
02:00:07,800 --> 02:00:11,080
Speaker 1: wants his money up front. He was like Garret. And

2164
02:00:11,200 --> 02:00:15,520
Speaker 1: then he just wouldn't just see us every day. He

2165
02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:17,640
Speaker 1: would be like, y'all working on a beat for you.

2166
02:00:17,960 --> 02:00:19,680
Speaker 1: And this is back in the days where you can't

2167
02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:23,920
Speaker 1: tweet it, you can working for you. I thought he

2168
02:00:24,080 --> 02:00:31,320
Speaker 1: was getting me, my dude, but I'm not saying he's

2169
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:36,240
Speaker 1: from Brooklyn. You know, this is this is what they know. Yes,

2170
02:00:36,320 --> 02:00:38,480
Speaker 1: this is what they knowing the I'm like, oh, he

2171
02:00:38,680 --> 02:00:42,160
Speaker 1: might be getting me. And he would call me, like

2172
02:00:42,560 --> 02:00:45,160
Speaker 1: I'll call you on on on Tuesday, He'll call me

2173
02:00:45,280 --> 02:00:50,440
Speaker 1: on Thursday. It just didn't seem right. So I actually

2174
02:00:50,520 --> 02:00:53,480
Speaker 1: came to the studio. Sorry please right now. Actually came

2175
02:00:53,520 --> 02:00:55,920
Speaker 1: to the studio. And this, this is what hurt my

2176
02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:58,880
Speaker 1: feelings even more, was I walked in the studio. He

2177
02:00:59,000 --> 02:01:04,240
Speaker 1: was like, and he's playing He's not playing, He's not

2178
02:01:04,440 --> 02:01:07,400
Speaker 1: he's not playing ship off for this, He's actually making

2179
02:01:07,440 --> 02:01:10,280
Speaker 1: it live and he's like this, And I went like this,

2180
02:01:12,240 --> 02:01:15,040
Speaker 1: And then when I sat down, I didn't beat. Then

2181
02:01:15,080 --> 02:01:26,120
Speaker 1: they said, and he rates the beating. I want you know,

2182
02:01:26,920 --> 02:01:29,640
Speaker 1: because the thing about me is if I'm not bopping

2183
02:01:29,680 --> 02:01:32,480
Speaker 1: this because I'm writing like I'm righting in my head.

2184
02:01:32,640 --> 02:01:35,360
Speaker 1: But don't get me wrong, I'm not a full potential

2185
02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:38,680
Speaker 1: bar right in the head. So I get six in

2186
02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:41,560
Speaker 1: my head. I go like this, but I might get

2187
02:01:41,640 --> 02:01:45,280
Speaker 1: quiet on you. I might get quiet maybe like right.

2188
02:01:46,640 --> 02:01:53,760
Speaker 1: And then they looked at me and he said, and

2189
02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:57,160
Speaker 1: he got my full check, so I'm like, y'all hold up.

2190
02:01:58,120 --> 02:02:00,600
Speaker 1: And then he played in another one, and then the

2191
02:02:00,760 --> 02:02:04,120
Speaker 1: poem did the same as he erased that one too,

2192
02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:13,040
Speaker 1: and then it was the third one that he was

2193
02:02:13,080 --> 02:02:15,240
Speaker 1: like boom. He was like, yeah, I like this, and

2194
02:02:15,320 --> 02:02:17,680
Speaker 1: it was like yo, boom. And this was by this time,

2195
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:20,200
Speaker 1: it's four o'clock in the morning. We're all beat. It's

2196
02:02:20,240 --> 02:02:23,720
Speaker 1: like your tomorrow morning, you're coming here and we'll happen.

2197
02:02:24,120 --> 02:02:26,320
Speaker 1: And then that's tomorrow morning. He came in and that's

2198
02:02:26,360 --> 02:02:29,280
Speaker 1: what he put in all the scratches, which this is

2199
02:02:29,320 --> 02:02:35,440
Speaker 1: the invincible, but but that that that that was the

2200
02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:38,480
Speaker 1: first he had droned, be ready for y'all listen. I

2201
02:02:38,560 --> 02:02:42,960
Speaker 1: was probably you know listen, you know Listen, I'm so

2202
02:02:43,120 --> 02:02:47,320
Speaker 1: happy that you told me this because listen previous my brother. Right,

2203
02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:51,480
Speaker 1: but that first week of our relationship, I thought he

2204
02:02:51,680 --> 02:02:55,000
Speaker 1: really tried to be like I thought he really bullshitted

2205
02:02:55,120 --> 02:02:57,720
Speaker 1: me because like we were going and he was just like,

2206
02:02:57,840 --> 02:03:02,000
Speaker 1: it's not the night. And then I would see Biggie

2207
02:03:02,040 --> 02:03:05,200
Speaker 1: and Junior Mafia and I'm like, I sure, it's not tonight, nigger.

2208
02:03:05,560 --> 02:03:08,400
Speaker 1: You know this is this is big becoming big, and

2209
02:03:08,520 --> 02:03:12,360
Speaker 1: then Jay but I'm continued, so you are Ceah. I

2210
02:03:12,400 --> 02:03:14,600
Speaker 1: mean that that was basically if I went in there,

2211
02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:17,600
Speaker 1: he said he was making a beat for y'all. So

2212
02:03:17,680 --> 02:03:20,240
Speaker 1: I had just put I put a prime together. Just

2213
02:03:20,360 --> 02:03:27,280
Speaker 1: give me that props, the rules, the rule, you know,

2214
02:03:28,600 --> 02:03:30,920
Speaker 1: we put them together ahead. I'm sorry, I'm I'm sorry,

2215
02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:32,720
Speaker 1: right yeah, I mean that's the that's that's the day

2216
02:03:32,760 --> 02:03:34,520
Speaker 1: that we did Boom, and that was like one of

2217
02:03:34,600 --> 02:03:36,640
Speaker 1: the first things we did together. So it just so

2218
02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:40,040
Speaker 1: happened like after I when I kept doing albums, you know,

2219
02:03:40,120 --> 02:03:42,960
Speaker 1: we kept in touch and we got cool. You know

2220
02:03:43,000 --> 02:03:44,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I didn't expect for us to

2221
02:03:44,520 --> 02:03:47,720
Speaker 1: get cool. So we had like a lasting relationship from

2222
02:03:48,360 --> 02:03:53,840
Speaker 1: whatever that was nine whatever it was all the way

2223
02:03:53,880 --> 02:03:56,600
Speaker 1: up until now so and Premiers a realized dude, Like

2224
02:03:56,880 --> 02:03:59,000
Speaker 1: once you have a relationship with him, yeah, I mean

2225
02:03:59,040 --> 02:04:01,120
Speaker 1: we got to point where were just friends, you know

2226
02:04:01,160 --> 02:04:04,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like he executive produced one of

2227
02:04:04,440 --> 02:04:07,320
Speaker 1: my albums before a car Streethart. So we worked. Yeah,

2228
02:04:07,360 --> 02:04:09,920
Speaker 1: we worked pretty much in every capacity. You know, he

2229
02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:12,040
Speaker 1: did ship a slaughter House, you know what I mean.

2230
02:04:12,120 --> 02:04:14,440
Speaker 1: So it was like, this is like the obvious next

2231
02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:16,280
Speaker 1: step for me and him if we were gonna take

2232
02:04:16,440 --> 02:04:20,720
Speaker 1: you know, take the creativity any further. So, um, my man,

2233
02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:25,680
Speaker 1: Mike Haran had an idea yeah, yeah, yeah, So he

2234
02:04:25,800 --> 02:04:29,520
Speaker 1: had an idea to to take for somebody who was

2235
02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:33,880
Speaker 1: like a master a chopping shopping samples, having them pull

2236
02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:37,720
Speaker 1: music from one source and making an album like that.

2237
02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:40,680
Speaker 1: So the idea was initially for slaughter House because Mike

2238
02:04:40,840 --> 02:04:44,440
Speaker 1: is an r over there shady, So that was the idea.

2239
02:04:44,480 --> 02:04:46,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna use Adrian Young. This is a whole It

2240
02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:48,680
Speaker 1: just came out of nowhere and use Adrian Young, and

2241
02:04:48,720 --> 02:04:50,920
Speaker 1: he was like popping. Remember when Timberland did Adrian Young

2242
02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:54,640
Speaker 1: sample being it was a magnet Carter. So, um, it

2243
02:04:54,760 --> 02:04:56,160
Speaker 1: was like all right, cool, so we're gonna do this.

2244
02:04:56,280 --> 02:04:57,760
Speaker 1: I thought the idea was crazy. I thought it was

2245
02:04:57,800 --> 02:04:59,960
Speaker 1: a great idea, so we bought it the slaughter house.

2246
02:05:00,480 --> 02:05:02,440
Speaker 1: They wasn't really super excited about it, but you could

2247
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:04,400
Speaker 1: tell they was willing to work and do it. We

2248
02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:07,000
Speaker 1: all got on the call with Adrian and Ship. Adrian

2249
02:05:07,040 --> 02:05:09,840
Speaker 1: sent a couple of ideas. I rapped right on the

2250
02:05:09,880 --> 02:05:11,600
Speaker 1: ship sent it out to them, and they didn't move.

2251
02:05:13,040 --> 02:05:16,720
Speaker 1: When Crookett don't move immediately on something because he threw

2252
02:05:16,880 --> 02:05:18,520
Speaker 1: verses like that, you know what I'm saying. So if

2253
02:05:18,520 --> 02:05:20,880
Speaker 1: he ain't sent in the verse immediately, I know, okay,

2254
02:05:20,920 --> 02:05:23,120
Speaker 1: they're probably not that crazy about the idea. And how

2255
02:05:23,120 --> 02:05:25,920
Speaker 1: I work with slaughter houses this, if everybody is crazy

2256
02:05:25,960 --> 02:05:28,560
Speaker 1: about the idea, whatever were about to do is gonna

2257
02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:33,120
Speaker 1: be classic. If everybody just showing up to work, you

2258
02:05:33,240 --> 02:05:35,400
Speaker 1: never know how it's gonna turn out. So I just

2259
02:05:35,480 --> 02:05:37,080
Speaker 1: felt like I didn't want to ruin the idea. I

2260
02:05:37,120 --> 02:05:39,400
Speaker 1: didn't want to twist their arms and kind of like

2261
02:05:39,520 --> 02:05:41,160
Speaker 1: forced him to do some ship that they wouldn't really

2262
02:05:41,280 --> 02:05:43,720
Speaker 1: that into. Because I got I'm the dude in the group.

2263
02:05:43,760 --> 02:05:45,720
Speaker 1: We got the relationship with everybody. I can talk everybody

2264
02:05:45,720 --> 02:05:47,960
Speaker 1: in the group into doing whatever, you know what I'm saying.

2265
02:05:48,040 --> 02:05:49,839
Speaker 1: So I didn't want to put them in that position.

2266
02:05:50,720 --> 02:05:53,720
Speaker 1: So I took the idea to print what do you

2267
02:05:53,800 --> 02:05:55,800
Speaker 1: think about doing it? Because he was already open to

2268
02:05:55,920 --> 02:05:58,400
Speaker 1: do it for Slaughterhouse? What do you think about just

2269
02:05:58,480 --> 02:06:02,800
Speaker 1: me and you doing it? And he was like all right.

2270
02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:04,920
Speaker 1: So we started out just as idea as an EP

2271
02:06:05,480 --> 02:06:10,400
Speaker 1: and then we recorded like four songs and Keno was like, man,

2272
02:06:10,440 --> 02:06:14,680
Speaker 1: we we need more. You know what I'm saying. He

2273
02:06:14,800 --> 02:06:17,120
Speaker 1: was like, we need more. So I talked preim and

2274
02:06:17,320 --> 02:06:19,440
Speaker 1: doing a few more, and then eventually I got on

2275
02:06:19,520 --> 02:06:20,760
Speaker 1: the phone with him and was like, what if we

2276
02:06:20,880 --> 02:06:23,800
Speaker 1: just called ourselves something else besides just stej a Premier

2277
02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:25,840
Speaker 1: Royce to five nine. So that's when I was like,

2278
02:06:25,880 --> 02:06:28,600
Speaker 1: why don't we call ourselves Prim's make the PRR capital

2279
02:06:29,160 --> 02:06:32,360
Speaker 1: for Premium Royce and then prime you know what I'm

2280
02:06:32,360 --> 02:06:33,920
Speaker 1: saying that. He was just like all right, cool, and

2281
02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:38,240
Speaker 1: then from there were just a group okay, But then

2282
02:06:42,120 --> 02:06:45,800
Speaker 1: what happens this guys come out with Part one. People

2283
02:06:45,960 --> 02:06:49,880
Speaker 1: hear it, well, hip hops this understand what's going on

2284
02:06:50,040 --> 02:06:52,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people slept on it. But then you

2285
02:06:52,760 --> 02:07:01,600
Speaker 1: go upstairs the Master Flex Hot nineties seven and you

2286
02:07:05,800 --> 02:07:09,800
Speaker 1: but you're doing it's such a comfortable level. It's like

2287
02:07:10,040 --> 02:07:13,360
Speaker 1: I could look at it and say, that's a real m. See,

2288
02:07:13,960 --> 02:07:15,320
Speaker 1: like a lot of people would be like he she

2289
02:07:15,520 --> 02:07:19,760
Speaker 1: went this little thing. She was just like, you're looking

2290
02:07:19,800 --> 02:07:23,160
Speaker 1: at you just the way you You were just telling

2291
02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:25,480
Speaker 1: like you used to this, like this is what I do.

2292
02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:33,440
Speaker 1: But and it made me actually like, look at how

2293
02:07:33,520 --> 02:07:36,040
Speaker 1: many people started to respect you from that moment, as

2294
02:07:36,120 --> 02:07:39,000
Speaker 1: if you ain't been doing this for years. But there

2295
02:07:39,080 --> 02:07:42,360
Speaker 1: was so many people like y'all did you shep rice then?

2296
02:07:42,760 --> 02:07:45,040
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, damn, but how did you feel

2297
02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:47,960
Speaker 1: at that moment? Like I knew I wanted to do

2298
02:07:48,120 --> 02:07:51,040
Speaker 1: my best, you know what I'm saying, Like, and I

2299
02:07:51,160 --> 02:07:53,240
Speaker 1: got into it. I got to a point in my career, man,

2300
02:07:53,280 --> 02:07:55,080
Speaker 1: where I just start telling myself and like, I don't

2301
02:07:55,120 --> 02:07:58,240
Speaker 1: want to really do nothing else if I can't make

2302
02:07:58,280 --> 02:08:00,520
Speaker 1: an impact when I do it. So basically what I'm

2303
02:08:00,560 --> 02:08:03,760
Speaker 1: telling myself is do your best with no matter what

2304
02:08:03,880 --> 02:08:06,280
Speaker 1: you do, just put your best foot forward. So when

2305
02:08:06,320 --> 02:08:10,000
Speaker 1: Flex hit me about coming up there, which everybody had

2306
02:08:10,040 --> 02:08:11,840
Speaker 1: pretty much been spamming, I'm saying Yo, you need to

2307
02:08:11,880 --> 02:08:14,120
Speaker 1: get Royce up there. After Tarik did what he did,

2308
02:08:14,120 --> 02:08:16,960
Speaker 1: after Black Thought did what he did up it was like,

2309
02:08:17,080 --> 02:08:19,200
Speaker 1: it's not really too many other mcs you can call

2310
02:08:19,880 --> 02:08:22,880
Speaker 1: to go up there and do something even remotely close

2311
02:08:22,920 --> 02:08:25,480
Speaker 1: to the magnitude of what that man did. So he

2312
02:08:25,640 --> 02:08:27,160
Speaker 1: was just hitting me like, Yo, you know it's time.

2313
02:08:27,200 --> 02:08:29,360
Speaker 1: You know it's time. And I just kept telling him like, look, man,

2314
02:08:29,960 --> 02:08:33,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come up there when the time is right,

2315
02:08:33,440 --> 02:08:34,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm still working on

2316
02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:36,880
Speaker 1: an album, working on like a bunch of different things

2317
02:08:36,920 --> 02:08:39,360
Speaker 1: at the same time. I promise you, bro, as soon

2318
02:08:39,400 --> 02:08:41,600
Speaker 1: as I'm ready for rollout, I'm coming to see you,

2319
02:08:41,720 --> 02:08:44,000
Speaker 1: I promise you. And then, you know, when when I

2320
02:08:44,200 --> 02:08:45,800
Speaker 1: finally got done with the albums and I had a

2321
02:08:45,880 --> 02:08:47,600
Speaker 1: little bit of breathing room and I had some time

2322
02:08:47,640 --> 02:08:50,760
Speaker 1: to like memorize a few things, I was like, fucking

2323
02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do it. What was it like ten

2324
02:08:53,760 --> 02:09:04,120
Speaker 1: minutes something like that. But mind you, the first time

2325
02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:09,240
Speaker 1: was successful. It was a successful yea, independent It wasn't.

2326
02:09:09,280 --> 02:09:13,240
Speaker 1: It wasn't like like the thing about it was the

2327
02:09:13,360 --> 02:09:16,080
Speaker 1: second if I felt like this is me personally just

2328
02:09:16,200 --> 02:09:19,000
Speaker 1: looking from the outside, there was I felt like from

2329
02:09:19,080 --> 02:09:22,080
Speaker 1: that freestyle on like it was like the industry went

2330
02:09:22,240 --> 02:09:26,680
Speaker 1: back and like rediscovered there that particularly discovery discography. It

2331
02:09:26,880 --> 02:09:29,760
Speaker 1: was like you know what, and then now brob Want

2332
02:09:29,840 --> 02:09:31,920
Speaker 1: is a classic. And now I'm just saying that this

2333
02:09:32,040 --> 02:09:35,440
Speaker 1: is just the way these fans are they from. Yeah,

2334
02:09:35,480 --> 02:09:38,880
Speaker 1: we we you know, we're speaking, we speaking. We're speaking

2335
02:09:38,920 --> 02:09:43,680
Speaker 1: to a whole different demographic of people, like different, they're different.

2336
02:09:43,720 --> 02:09:46,600
Speaker 1: Now you're speaking to people that want beats and rhymes,

2337
02:09:46,920 --> 02:09:51,680
Speaker 1: and unfortunately those people are not at the forefront. The forefront.

2338
02:09:51,720 --> 02:09:54,960
Speaker 1: People want to do the name they yeah, they want

2339
02:09:54,960 --> 02:09:58,480
Speaker 1: to just say they want to do was that dance?

2340
02:10:01,240 --> 02:10:06,720
Speaker 1: What was that? I wasn't listening to this Yeah yeah,

2341
02:10:07,480 --> 02:10:10,080
Speaker 1: yeah I was. I can't do this, ship man, whatever

2342
02:10:10,160 --> 02:10:19,320
Speaker 1: you do, I can't do it. I'm I was up. Yeah,

2343
02:10:19,560 --> 02:10:22,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, it's a different generation, man, this is

2344
02:10:22,320 --> 02:10:28,040
Speaker 1: a different generation. But um, what did you love? All right? Um?

2345
02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:30,920
Speaker 1: What do you love about the new generation? Like I

2346
02:10:31,240 --> 02:10:34,200
Speaker 1: heard you big up Big Sean. I like that, you know, um,

2347
02:10:34,480 --> 02:10:38,280
Speaker 1: you know you're being the older G from Detroit at

2348
02:10:38,360 --> 02:10:40,800
Speaker 1: him being a younger G from Detroit, And I love

2349
02:10:40,880 --> 02:10:42,320
Speaker 1: with Big Sean is doing. Me and him had a

2350
02:10:42,400 --> 02:10:45,880
Speaker 1: little crazy ship. But if you know, I'm done, We're done.

2351
02:10:46,240 --> 02:10:49,880
Speaker 1: We saw each other. But um, but I like the

2352
02:10:50,040 --> 02:10:54,640
Speaker 1: fact that you co signed your younger generation. Why isn't

2353
02:10:54,720 --> 02:10:57,160
Speaker 1: that more of that happening in the hip hop where

2354
02:10:57,200 --> 02:11:00,360
Speaker 1: people just see their their younger geez and say, you

2355
02:11:00,400 --> 02:11:02,440
Speaker 1: know what, I'm a I'm a big big that up

2356
02:11:04,280 --> 02:11:08,160
Speaker 1: me personally, man, I learned. I learned how important it

2357
02:11:08,280 --> 02:11:14,240
Speaker 1: is so um to get support from your peers, you know,

2358
02:11:14,520 --> 02:11:17,040
Speaker 1: like this, the few the few people that supported me

2359
02:11:17,120 --> 02:11:21,000
Speaker 1: when I was young, like the way it affected me.

2360
02:11:21,080 --> 02:11:24,960
Speaker 1: It spoke abundantly to me, Like Bumby did that. He

2361
02:11:25,040 --> 02:11:27,200
Speaker 1: called me out of nowhere. I never met him before.

2362
02:11:28,080 --> 02:11:29,800
Speaker 1: I just I was it was way back in the day.

2363
02:11:29,800 --> 02:11:32,560
Speaker 1: I was like releasing freestyles and ship online and it

2364
02:11:32,680 --> 02:11:34,280
Speaker 1: was kind of like tearing it up, you know what

2365
02:11:34,320 --> 02:11:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And he called me Mr Porter hit me

2366
02:11:37,600 --> 02:11:40,560
Speaker 1: was like, yo, Bumby is looking for you. So I'm like, oh, ship.

2367
02:11:40,680 --> 02:11:42,120
Speaker 1: So I get on the phone with Bunn and Bun

2368
02:11:42,320 --> 02:11:44,800
Speaker 1: is basically like, look, I don't want nothing. I'll just

2369
02:11:44,880 --> 02:11:47,280
Speaker 1: call him to let you know that you're doing good

2370
02:11:47,320 --> 02:11:50,000
Speaker 1: out there. So whatever you're doing Just keep doing that

2371
02:11:50,120 --> 02:11:52,600
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be all right right there, he said.

2372
02:11:53,080 --> 02:11:55,120
Speaker 1: He said, if you ever need anything for me, this

2373
02:11:55,320 --> 02:11:57,160
Speaker 1: is my number. And I just want you to know

2374
02:11:57,280 --> 02:11:58,720
Speaker 1: that I support you and I want you to keep

2375
02:11:58,720 --> 02:12:02,320
Speaker 1: doing what you're doing. And that ship, like y'all took

2376
02:12:02,360 --> 02:12:03,880
Speaker 1: a page from his book and was like, Yo, this

2377
02:12:04,000 --> 02:12:06,120
Speaker 1: is how I want to be. So when I started

2378
02:12:06,120 --> 02:12:08,280
Speaker 1: getting a little bit up there in age and the

2379
02:12:08,400 --> 02:12:10,520
Speaker 1: younger artists, I wanted to be viewed by them as

2380
02:12:10,640 --> 02:12:13,320
Speaker 1: that I don't want to be. This just looked at

2381
02:12:13,400 --> 02:12:15,280
Speaker 1: is this old bider guy who got a problem with

2382
02:12:15,440 --> 02:12:17,320
Speaker 1: not being able to have alarm light all the time.

2383
02:12:17,360 --> 02:12:19,680
Speaker 1: You can't. I can't let go of what he used

2384
02:12:19,720 --> 02:12:22,320
Speaker 1: to be or what he his capabilities could have been.

2385
02:12:22,800 --> 02:12:25,440
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm really happy with

2386
02:12:25,600 --> 02:12:27,960
Speaker 1: my journey and I want to I wanna I want to.

2387
02:12:28,120 --> 02:12:30,320
Speaker 1: I want the way that I moved and my energy

2388
02:12:30,400 --> 02:12:32,800
Speaker 1: to reflect that ship. You know what I'm saying. When

2389
02:12:32,840 --> 02:12:34,560
Speaker 1: I was when I was talking a bun, I felt

2390
02:12:34,600 --> 02:12:36,480
Speaker 1: like I was talking to a nigger who was comfortable

2391
02:12:36,520 --> 02:12:38,960
Speaker 1: in his skin. You know what I'm saying, Like, that's

2392
02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:40,720
Speaker 1: what success is to me. You know what I'm saying.

2393
02:12:40,920 --> 02:12:44,040
Speaker 1: So that's why he shows big. That's one of the reasons.

2394
02:12:44,120 --> 02:12:47,400
Speaker 1: And then you know, like Detroit is we always lack unity,

2395
02:12:47,720 --> 02:12:49,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So everything that happened, yeah,

2396
02:12:50,000 --> 02:12:52,080
Speaker 1: every everything that happened with me and detwelve and ship

2397
02:12:52,240 --> 02:12:54,400
Speaker 1: like that, and how it affected me and M's personal

2398
02:12:54,440 --> 02:12:58,480
Speaker 1: relationship and how it affected our success and the way

2399
02:12:58,560 --> 02:13:03,080
Speaker 1: we reviewed. Feel like every generation that came after us

2400
02:13:03,160 --> 02:13:05,200
Speaker 1: needs to look at us, what came out of it,

2401
02:13:05,960 --> 02:13:07,800
Speaker 1: Look at us. What can you learn from it? How

2402
02:13:07,880 --> 02:13:09,560
Speaker 1: can we make the city better, How can we do

2403
02:13:09,680 --> 02:13:11,960
Speaker 1: better as a city, And how can you do better

2404
02:13:12,040 --> 02:13:14,160
Speaker 1: as an artist? When your city is in the know

2405
02:13:14,320 --> 02:13:16,440
Speaker 1: as well? Like in the city, when your city knows

2406
02:13:16,520 --> 02:13:18,520
Speaker 1: how to do better, you'll do better, you know what

2407
02:13:18,600 --> 02:13:20,960
Speaker 1: I mean. So we got to support each other, you

2408
02:13:21,000 --> 02:13:23,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like that's just part of it.

2409
02:13:23,280 --> 02:13:25,920
Speaker 1: And even you look at like the way Miami, you know,

2410
02:13:26,000 --> 02:13:28,440
Speaker 1: when Miami came together and they you know, Calid had

2411
02:13:28,480 --> 02:13:31,120
Speaker 1: everybody on records at the same time, and he was

2412
02:13:31,200 --> 02:13:33,640
Speaker 1: pushing unity and ship like that, and how much it

2413
02:13:33,800 --> 02:13:36,360
Speaker 1: helped the culture, how much it helped Miami is a

2414
02:13:36,400 --> 02:13:41,760
Speaker 1: city and little she from from Detroit So what happened

2415
02:13:42,080 --> 02:13:45,520
Speaker 1: because recently I've seen that the city of Detroit gave

2416
02:13:45,720 --> 02:13:50,960
Speaker 1: Cardi B. Yeah, the Detroit Citizen of the Year water,

2417
02:13:51,120 --> 02:13:54,040
Speaker 1: So what was it? It gave her Citizen of the

2418
02:13:54,160 --> 02:13:57,800
Speaker 1: year like that they gave her. I'm one point one point.

2419
02:13:58,280 --> 02:14:02,800
Speaker 1: They gave her what on my point? Where talking about

2420
02:14:02,840 --> 02:14:04,680
Speaker 1: look at this, let me look at little I can't

2421
02:14:04,680 --> 02:14:07,760
Speaker 1: remember the name of the world. It was like it

2422
02:14:07,880 --> 02:14:11,400
Speaker 1: was like it was like the Detroit. It was a

2423
02:14:11,480 --> 02:14:13,600
Speaker 1: Detroit a war. Like if you ain't from Detroit, you

2424
02:14:13,840 --> 02:14:17,440
Speaker 1: you ain't. You shouldn't witness spirited Detroit. Spirited Detroit. I'm

2425
02:14:17,520 --> 02:14:21,200
Speaker 1: fucking that's that's damn the same thing. Yeah, you gotta

2426
02:14:21,240 --> 02:14:24,560
Speaker 1: be from the mode motherfucking city, but she's not. And

2427
02:14:24,640 --> 02:14:27,160
Speaker 1: I love Let me just go this out there. I

2428
02:14:27,400 --> 02:14:32,680
Speaker 1: love Cardi being Cardi B. As my sister graduates album.

2429
02:14:35,160 --> 02:14:38,640
Speaker 1: Were looking at Cardi bees first time she was ever

2430
02:14:38,800 --> 02:14:42,400
Speaker 1: on screen. You can look at the Towel Down video

2431
02:14:42,520 --> 02:14:45,000
Speaker 1: if you want to revote TV. Right now, we will

2432
02:14:45,000 --> 02:14:48,200
Speaker 1: be playing a clip of the Towel Down video featuring

2433
02:14:48,280 --> 02:14:52,320
Speaker 1: Normy feature in French Montana when push your Tea and

2434
02:14:52,560 --> 02:14:56,720
Speaker 1: two chains and Cardi B is actually in my video

2435
02:14:57,160 --> 02:14:59,120
Speaker 1: the first time you ever see it. So I love

2436
02:14:59,200 --> 02:15:01,160
Speaker 1: the ship out of So this is this is not

2437
02:15:01,280 --> 02:15:05,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But Cardi B did get the actual

2438
02:15:05,440 --> 02:15:09,200
Speaker 1: spirit of Spirit of Detroit Awards. And what happened was

2439
02:15:09,600 --> 02:15:13,200
Speaker 1: the city of Detroit ropted. They really didn't like that.

2440
02:15:13,680 --> 02:15:16,520
Speaker 1: And as much of a support I am a Cardi

2441
02:15:16,560 --> 02:15:19,320
Speaker 1: Bill as much I love it, I felt like just

2442
02:15:19,480 --> 02:15:22,840
Speaker 1: the Detroit I did understood it because Detroit. Let's just

2443
02:15:22,920 --> 02:15:25,280
Speaker 1: be clear, it should have went to a person from Detroit.

2444
02:15:25,360 --> 02:15:28,120
Speaker 1: If it's a Detroit spirit, Yes, it's the mind frame.

2445
02:15:28,880 --> 02:15:30,960
Speaker 1: It's the mind frame of the people in Detroit, like

2446
02:15:31,080 --> 02:15:33,120
Speaker 1: some of the people in Detroit. That has to change

2447
02:15:34,080 --> 02:15:36,400
Speaker 1: before we could like really get to where we need

2448
02:15:36,480 --> 02:15:39,360
Speaker 1: to be as a city. Not individually. You know, I'm

2449
02:15:39,400 --> 02:15:41,920
Speaker 1: gonna always achieve whatever I'm gonna achieve his Roice, you

2450
02:15:41,960 --> 02:15:43,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But just us as a city,

2451
02:15:44,480 --> 02:15:46,839
Speaker 1: you know, we got the whole Detroit versus Everybody movement.

2452
02:15:47,520 --> 02:15:48,880
Speaker 1: And like I was saying on that clip that I

2453
02:15:48,960 --> 02:15:51,560
Speaker 1: put on my Instagram, until everybody is in the right

2454
02:15:51,640 --> 02:15:53,920
Speaker 1: mind frame, those are just letters on the on the shirt.

2455
02:15:54,640 --> 02:15:57,360
Speaker 1: It don't really mean nothing. If we're not kind of

2456
02:15:57,440 --> 02:15:59,280
Speaker 1: like standing by, like if you if you want to

2457
02:15:59,320 --> 02:16:01,880
Speaker 1: just look at it for what it is. None of

2458
02:16:01,920 --> 02:16:04,960
Speaker 1: these awards really mean anything, you know what I mean,

2459
02:16:05,080 --> 02:16:09,600
Speaker 1: So it's like you're giving it the CARDI b. I'm

2460
02:16:09,640 --> 02:16:13,400
Speaker 1: sure there's people in Detroit whom are deserving of it,

2461
02:16:14,680 --> 02:16:19,240
Speaker 1: and they can somehow help boost their confidence into doing

2462
02:16:19,320 --> 02:16:24,560
Speaker 1: something else. The whole city. It's the perfect word. The morale.

2463
02:16:24,760 --> 02:16:26,680
Speaker 1: The morale is low in Detroit. That's what That's what

2464
02:16:26,800 --> 02:16:30,120
Speaker 1: we're missing. So little things like that, looking out for

2465
02:16:30,280 --> 02:16:32,480
Speaker 1: our own first like other cities do, looking out for

2466
02:16:32,520 --> 02:16:34,520
Speaker 1: our own first, will help boost the morale and out

2467
02:16:34,560 --> 02:16:36,120
Speaker 1: of help get us what we need to see. I

2468
02:16:36,240 --> 02:16:38,520
Speaker 1: understood why they gave it a ward, because what they're

2469
02:16:38,520 --> 02:16:40,760
Speaker 1: trying to say it's just coming from nothing and making

2470
02:16:40,840 --> 02:16:43,800
Speaker 1: something out of it. But I also understood you guys

2471
02:16:43,879 --> 02:16:46,560
Speaker 1: stance when he was like yo, you know, because you guys,

2472
02:16:47,080 --> 02:16:55,880
Speaker 1: these guys, but they were just like, you know what,

2473
02:16:56,400 --> 02:17:00,440
Speaker 1: dis awards should have stayed in Detroit to Troit. That's

2474
02:17:01,560 --> 02:17:04,840
Speaker 1: the award is own let her own city. Sheree deserves

2475
02:17:04,879 --> 02:17:06,320
Speaker 1: to be the spirit of New York. Let her get

2476
02:17:06,440 --> 02:17:08,480
Speaker 1: let me. That's what I'm saying, Like it's the title.

2477
02:17:08,560 --> 02:17:11,240
Speaker 1: That doesn't make really sense. Now, worts what kind of

2478
02:17:11,320 --> 02:17:16,000
Speaker 1: watches that? Okay, I thought that was a blow because

2479
02:17:16,480 --> 02:17:18,840
Speaker 1: because that's a Gucci jacket. That's correct. You guys are

2480
02:17:18,879 --> 02:17:23,760
Speaker 1: talking man rich world coming, very rich, come all right,

2481
02:17:24,160 --> 02:17:27,040
Speaker 1: very rich over. Thank you. Yeah, man, I'm gonna be honest.

2482
02:17:29,520 --> 02:17:31,840
Speaker 1: You got the post. He was like the first nigga

2483
02:17:32,360 --> 02:17:35,240
Speaker 1: that had the Panamera. I'm gonna be honest. No, I

2484
02:17:35,360 --> 02:17:38,160
Speaker 1: was the first nigga with to CE seven vet see um.

2485
02:17:38,840 --> 02:17:42,040
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that is. Corvette Corvette, Corvette

2486
02:17:42,440 --> 02:17:44,720
Speaker 1: see seven when they first changed the body type. Okay,

2487
02:17:45,120 --> 02:17:47,440
Speaker 1: so I got mine, and you know every that's a

2488
02:17:47,560 --> 02:17:49,720
Speaker 1: white boy call just throwing it out. Not Detroit, No,

2489
02:17:51,200 --> 02:17:58,040
Speaker 1: not from New Yorker, I don't care. So all right, cool,

2490
02:17:58,120 --> 02:18:01,039
Speaker 1: So because I'm from Detroit, this is one time we're

2491
02:18:01,080 --> 02:18:04,800
Speaker 1: being from Detroit. Worked in my favorite one time. So

2492
02:18:05,040 --> 02:18:07,040
Speaker 1: since we don't have a lot of celebrities in Detroit,

2493
02:18:07,400 --> 02:18:09,840
Speaker 1: we got this list that you can get on. So

2494
02:18:10,000 --> 02:18:12,160
Speaker 1: just dude to on this Ferrari dealership who I'm cool with.

2495
02:18:12,680 --> 02:18:15,680
Speaker 1: He got me on this list where he was like,

2496
02:18:15,760 --> 02:18:17,400
Speaker 1: if you was on this list and Callie, you would

2497
02:18:17,440 --> 02:18:19,040
Speaker 1: be on the list with like Robert de Niro and

2498
02:18:19,120 --> 02:18:22,600
Speaker 1: names like that. So I got like the fifth Corvette

2499
02:18:22,680 --> 02:18:24,760
Speaker 1: off the assembly line, so I was like the first.

2500
02:18:24,800 --> 02:18:27,040
Speaker 1: I was. I had it before anybody could even lease it.

2501
02:18:28,879 --> 02:18:31,240
Speaker 1: I was the first one. Just like how you say

2502
02:18:31,320 --> 02:18:33,920
Speaker 1: with these glasses. I was driving it because I had

2503
02:18:34,000 --> 02:18:35,680
Speaker 1: rigs on it before anybody even seen it. So I

2504
02:18:35,760 --> 02:18:37,640
Speaker 1: was I was driving that. People thought it was a

2505
02:18:37,680 --> 02:18:39,240
Speaker 1: Ferrari that was putting up next to me, like Yo,

2506
02:18:39,280 --> 02:18:41,560
Speaker 1: what the fund is that? It's a Corvette. It's called

2507
02:18:41,560 --> 02:18:44,120
Speaker 1: a C seven. So I just think everybody should know

2508
02:18:44,120 --> 02:18:45,440
Speaker 1: that I was the first. You killed it. I'm going

2509
02:18:45,440 --> 02:18:48,400
Speaker 1: on my car deal on top and we're like, yo,

2510
02:18:48,440 --> 02:18:54,720
Speaker 1: what the fun is going on? Yeah? Yeah, yeah makes

2511
02:18:54,760 --> 02:19:05,160
Speaker 1: a soil roye. Yes, sir. Hip hop it started out

2512
02:19:05,200 --> 02:19:11,359
Speaker 1: in the park. M hm. You've seen every fucking shape

2513
02:19:11,400 --> 02:19:14,440
Speaker 1: of hip hop. You've seen it. You see from where

2514
02:19:14,440 --> 02:19:19,440
Speaker 1: it is now, you see from where it's going. What's

2515
02:19:19,480 --> 02:19:22,640
Speaker 1: your favorite part of hip hop? My favorite part of it?

2516
02:19:23,959 --> 02:19:28,600
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter anything, you mean, when you break down

2517
02:19:28,720 --> 02:19:31,640
Speaker 1: like rapping, graffiti, break dance and ship like that, it

2518
02:19:31,720 --> 02:19:34,080
Speaker 1: don't even it don't even matter. Yeah, I think that.

2519
02:19:34,160 --> 02:19:36,800
Speaker 1: I think bars is always gonna be my favorite no

2520
02:19:36,920 --> 02:19:41,040
Speaker 1: matter no matter what my ages, I never grow out

2521
02:19:41,120 --> 02:19:45,360
Speaker 1: of dope. Bars bars are like that's that's like my

2522
02:19:45,480 --> 02:19:49,160
Speaker 1: favorite component. That's why you know, like to me, bars

2523
02:19:49,320 --> 02:19:52,840
Speaker 1: is like technique. It's what you're saying, but it's also

2524
02:19:52,879 --> 02:19:55,560
Speaker 1: the technique is to flow. That's why I prefer M's

2525
02:19:55,600 --> 02:19:59,600
Speaker 1: renegade versus over holes. I relate to homes more you

2526
02:19:59,760 --> 02:20:04,720
Speaker 1: just him a technical standpoint. I prefer M because how

2527
02:20:04,800 --> 02:20:06,360
Speaker 1: I fell in love with hip hop, you know, like

2528
02:20:06,480 --> 02:20:08,480
Speaker 1: I fell in love with the cadences and the technique

2529
02:20:08,560 --> 02:20:10,360
Speaker 1: somebody coming with a new voice, Like when Snoop came

2530
02:20:10,400 --> 02:20:13,680
Speaker 1: out with that fucking voice doggy style, I mean, should

2531
02:20:13,680 --> 02:20:18,320
Speaker 1: he change that change? Yeah? He was like we all

2532
02:20:18,400 --> 02:20:23,160
Speaker 1: like it was something brand Yeah. So that's my favorite

2533
02:20:23,160 --> 02:20:27,280
Speaker 1: aspect of it, you know, like something new with styles Drake.

2534
02:20:27,360 --> 02:20:29,240
Speaker 1: Drake is real dope with that man like coming with

2535
02:20:29,360 --> 02:20:31,560
Speaker 1: like new flows and ship I think gets you kind

2536
02:20:31,600 --> 02:20:35,240
Speaker 1: of back excited about Dan. But I'm not standing up

2537
02:20:35,240 --> 02:20:42,640
Speaker 1: the stage. He's he's something else beyond an MC after that,

2538
02:20:42,920 --> 02:20:45,840
Speaker 1: Like he's he definitely could spit and he can make

2539
02:20:46,000 --> 02:20:52,360
Speaker 1: songs altogether. What I'm saying, so word the greatest Box

2540
02:20:52,480 --> 02:20:56,199
Speaker 1: up all times. I'm gonna go with Sugar Ray Robinson

2541
02:20:56,280 --> 02:21:02,640
Speaker 1: without even thinking Sugar Ray Robinson killed a man in

2542
02:21:02,680 --> 02:21:06,440
Speaker 1: the ring. Who you got he killed somebody in the ring? Yeah. See.

2543
02:21:06,760 --> 02:21:10,160
Speaker 1: And I'm disagreeing with you, not because I think you're wrong.

2544
02:21:11,080 --> 02:21:13,280
Speaker 1: I'm disagreeing with you because I just want to base

2545
02:21:13,520 --> 02:21:16,240
Speaker 1: the greatest box of all time for all the fights

2546
02:21:16,320 --> 02:21:19,120
Speaker 1: that I've seen in my own eyes. Okay, so this

2547
02:21:19,240 --> 02:21:22,000
Speaker 1: is the reason why I don't pick Ali. I picked

2548
02:21:22,040 --> 02:21:25,840
Speaker 1: Floyd Maywell. That's the greatest of all time in my opinion, Okay,

2549
02:21:27,000 --> 02:21:31,080
Speaker 1: because I've seen all his fights, like all the Allies fights,

2550
02:21:31,640 --> 02:21:35,080
Speaker 1: I probably seen them. But if I wasn't alive to

2551
02:21:35,200 --> 02:21:37,680
Speaker 1: see someone live through those moments, I didn't live. So

2552
02:21:37,879 --> 02:21:42,240
Speaker 1: I can't feel like like I lived through Tyson's all

2553
02:21:42,440 --> 02:21:45,000
Speaker 1: the Tyson's moments, but I also lived through all the

2554
02:21:45,080 --> 02:21:51,359
Speaker 1: Tyson's just you know, he's down, so I can't technically

2555
02:21:51,560 --> 02:21:57,119
Speaker 1: root for him. I love him, but Floyd, I felt

2556
02:21:57,160 --> 02:22:01,080
Speaker 1: like I grew up with him. We went through puberty

2557
02:22:01,160 --> 02:22:07,360
Speaker 1: together and then we actually was grown people together, and

2558
02:22:07,640 --> 02:22:11,360
Speaker 1: he hasn't disappointed me. I do not want him to

2559
02:22:11,480 --> 02:22:15,160
Speaker 1: go to have one fight in the UFC. Do not.

2560
02:22:17,080 --> 02:22:18,720
Speaker 1: If if that they could do that, I might cry.

2561
02:22:19,320 --> 02:22:26,120
Speaker 1: Listen to me, I do not. I don't think he's

2562
02:22:26,160 --> 02:22:32,320
Speaker 1: gonna do it what I didn't. He might be one

2563
02:22:32,360 --> 02:22:41,560
Speaker 1: more seven, not one Floyd to ever fight you f C.

2564
02:22:41,879 --> 02:22:44,360
Speaker 1: I think it might be trolling. Man. We won. Were

2565
02:22:44,440 --> 02:22:48,400
Speaker 1: from the boxing community. They came into our world one time.

2566
02:22:48,840 --> 02:22:51,360
Speaker 1: We won. Let's get our one and done and that's it.

2567
02:22:52,600 --> 02:22:54,840
Speaker 1: Like I used to play handball, I'll beat your handball once.

2568
02:22:54,879 --> 02:22:57,480
Speaker 1: So let's sit and whatever. That's it. You won't get

2569
02:22:57,560 --> 02:23:01,920
Speaker 1: a remac. I got a gun. What do you want

2570
02:23:01,959 --> 02:23:03,480
Speaker 1: to do from here? They're gonna try and hurt that

2571
02:23:03,560 --> 02:23:05,200
Speaker 1: boy over there if you go. I'm trying to tell

2572
02:23:05,240 --> 02:23:07,760
Speaker 1: it because it's not gonna be McGregor. McGregor is a

2573
02:23:07,879 --> 02:23:11,080
Speaker 1: thumb now. He threw ship at these other people, so

2574
02:23:11,200 --> 02:23:13,160
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be with Greg's some other day that's

2575
02:23:13,240 --> 02:23:18,360
Speaker 1: focused that don't want pussy, right, and that's gonna go

2576
02:23:18,440 --> 02:23:22,120
Speaker 1: on the ring. You're gonna kick the ship and I

2577
02:23:22,160 --> 02:23:24,800
Speaker 1: don't want that. That's an l for boxing. Man. We

2578
02:23:24,840 --> 02:23:28,720
Speaker 1: can't take that. We can't tell you. So, so me

2579
02:23:28,800 --> 02:23:31,160
Speaker 1: and you are green, we agree, But your greatest of

2580
02:23:31,160 --> 02:23:34,800
Speaker 1: all time. That's Sugar Ray, Sugar Ray Robinson, Robinson, I

2581
02:23:34,840 --> 02:23:37,480
Speaker 1: mean boxing, it's a lot like it's a lot like

2582
02:23:37,600 --> 02:23:39,440
Speaker 1: hip hop. Man, that s got to be. Don't watch

2583
02:23:39,480 --> 02:23:41,160
Speaker 1: a lot of hip hop because you have mad people

2584
02:23:41,280 --> 02:23:43,600
Speaker 1: hype you up. But when you actually go on that booth,

2585
02:23:43,680 --> 02:23:50,520
Speaker 1: it's only you that's okay, Joshua or Wilder man easily.

2586
02:23:50,560 --> 02:23:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm picking Wilder easy, easy work. I knew men you

2587
02:23:54,400 --> 02:23:59,560
Speaker 1: get along. I knew that's easy work. That's easier Anthony

2588
02:23:59,640 --> 02:24:02,720
Speaker 1: josh with Anthony josh easy work, though, that's easy work. No,

2589
02:24:03,040 --> 02:24:05,840
Speaker 1: I can't say this easy work, easy work. Joshua is

2590
02:24:06,000 --> 02:24:09,640
Speaker 1: hitting hard. Listen, listen, this ain't no knock on Joshua's

2591
02:24:09,640 --> 02:24:14,160
Speaker 1: punching power. Bro Please Deontay Wilder, Deontay Wilder, gotta hear

2592
02:24:14,240 --> 02:24:17,960
Speaker 1: that guy. He got a different kind of make He

2593
02:24:18,080 --> 02:24:21,000
Speaker 1: make a lot of mistakes, but so do Anthony Joshua.

2594
02:24:21,480 --> 02:24:24,400
Speaker 1: They both make a lot of technical boxer mistakes. But

2595
02:24:24,560 --> 02:24:27,200
Speaker 1: Deontay got a fire in him. Okay, what was the

2596
02:24:27,280 --> 02:24:33,560
Speaker 1: last fight on Wilder? Hat um? He just would you

2597
02:24:33,640 --> 02:24:36,200
Speaker 1: see there was a couple of mistakes that Wilder made.

2598
02:24:36,360 --> 02:24:38,640
Speaker 1: Louise or Chiz is a better boxing you're a better

2599
02:24:38,680 --> 02:24:42,560
Speaker 1: boxing But but the mistakes that Wilder made, could it

2600
02:24:42,600 --> 02:24:48,439
Speaker 1: be detrimental to to Joshua because josh was very technical.

2601
02:24:49,200 --> 02:24:52,680
Speaker 1: Just keep it real. Look, he's not Ortiz. Like if

2602
02:24:52,720 --> 02:24:55,000
Speaker 1: he would have made those mistakes with Joshua, it might

2603
02:24:55,080 --> 02:24:57,640
Speaker 1: have it might have cost him. I'm just keeping it real.

2604
02:24:57,760 --> 02:25:03,160
Speaker 1: Like Deontay want to win, man, he got it. That's

2605
02:25:03,480 --> 02:25:06,320
Speaker 1: the day. At the end of the day, I'm they

2606
02:25:06,640 --> 02:25:08,760
Speaker 1: make it the way the way that the state that

2607
02:25:08,800 --> 02:25:11,240
Speaker 1: the heavyweight division is in, it makes you focus on

2608
02:25:11,360 --> 02:25:14,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like they both they both make they

2609
02:25:14,480 --> 02:25:16,480
Speaker 1: both make mistakes. It's not gonna come down to who

2610
02:25:16,520 --> 02:25:19,160
Speaker 1: the better boxing. It's gonna come down to who land first,

2611
02:25:19,879 --> 02:25:23,080
Speaker 1: who wanted more. But Deante got a right hand that

2612
02:25:23,240 --> 02:25:25,840
Speaker 1: we have not seen in boxing probably since Tommy Hearns.

2613
02:25:26,280 --> 02:25:28,880
Speaker 1: And they end in the heavyweight division. But and this

2614
02:25:29,040 --> 02:25:33,119
Speaker 1: is the UK's first actual champion and its first actually

2615
02:25:33,240 --> 02:25:37,320
Speaker 1: black champion take a champaign. There's something about that. They

2616
02:25:37,360 --> 02:25:40,280
Speaker 1: are eighty thousand deep at his fucking They can't fight

2617
02:25:40,360 --> 02:25:42,720
Speaker 1: for him, they can't fight for him. But but but Royce,

2618
02:25:42,800 --> 02:25:47,680
Speaker 1: let's just be clear, that's something that's crazy because Joshua

2619
02:25:47,800 --> 02:25:51,960
Speaker 1: can actually say I'll fight you, but in London. You

2620
02:25:52,160 --> 02:25:54,320
Speaker 1: beat him in London. But what I'm trying to say

2621
02:25:54,480 --> 02:25:58,120
Speaker 1: is we don't actually know that feeling when everybody is

2622
02:25:58,160 --> 02:26:01,880
Speaker 1: coming out boying, you get how to performing that. I

2623
02:26:01,920 --> 02:26:05,800
Speaker 1: mean as artists, as artists, unless we have real beef

2624
02:26:05,879 --> 02:26:09,080
Speaker 1: with somebody, like you can't go to Poland and these

2625
02:26:09,200 --> 02:26:13,560
Speaker 1: the whole Poland buoy you. Yeah, he got this fight happens.

2626
02:26:13,959 --> 02:26:16,959
Speaker 1: And I'm just talking about because because Wilder, because Wilder

2627
02:26:17,560 --> 02:26:21,680
Speaker 1: is young. Still, let's just be clear, like how old

2628
02:26:21,720 --> 02:26:24,520
Speaker 1: are you don't have to answer that I'm forty two,

2629
02:26:24,840 --> 02:26:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm not forty. I'm forty and I'm forty. That's but

2630
02:26:31,000 --> 02:26:33,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is as a person that's twenty seven,

2631
02:26:33,920 --> 02:26:36,320
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that said I don't even know the age.

2632
02:26:36,959 --> 02:26:41,000
Speaker 1: But we all think we mature. You don't really mature.

2633
02:26:41,040 --> 02:26:44,680
Speaker 1: On to thirty five. Thirty five is after that you're like, man,

2634
02:26:45,760 --> 02:26:48,800
Speaker 1: fun everything, I'm want to go to costcos today. This

2635
02:26:48,959 --> 02:26:51,880
Speaker 1: is the thirty five. You actually have to get hit

2636
02:26:51,959 --> 02:26:59,879
Speaker 1: that thirty five. Everybody here thirty five. It looks like yeah, okay, alright,

2637
02:27:00,240 --> 02:27:03,000
Speaker 1: good look you're not You're in the Costles days. All right,

2638
02:27:03,680 --> 02:27:05,720
Speaker 1: so when you're a thirty file, you're a cop. But

2639
02:27:06,920 --> 02:27:10,320
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say is I think that Josh

2640
02:27:11,520 --> 02:27:20,920
Speaker 1: who he was born in I gotta take my story back. Then,

2641
02:27:21,560 --> 02:27:23,920
Speaker 1: I don't understand what I was trying to go. I

2642
02:27:23,959 --> 02:27:28,160
Speaker 1: thought he was twenty five, he's not. He's on the team.

2643
02:27:28,320 --> 02:27:31,120
Speaker 1: And then wasn't Anthony Josh ahead google that Now you

2644
02:27:31,280 --> 02:27:34,320
Speaker 1: might be Josh was only like he only like twenty

2645
02:27:34,440 --> 02:27:43,360
Speaker 1: oh right, yeah, no, he a beast Anthony josh with

2646
02:27:43,440 --> 02:27:45,480
Speaker 1: a beast man. Please don't think that. I'm not saying that.

2647
02:27:46,280 --> 02:27:53,080
Speaker 1: But Deonte just recently want to fight. But I didn't

2648
02:27:53,120 --> 02:27:54,560
Speaker 1: watch that fight because I knew he was gonna win.

2649
02:27:54,560 --> 02:27:58,040
Speaker 1: As I knew he's gonna win it, did you? Yeah,

2650
02:27:58,080 --> 02:28:01,440
Speaker 1: of course? Okay, it's the fight we're talking about, the

2651
02:28:01,520 --> 02:28:05,520
Speaker 1: Joseph Parker fight, right Okay, oh yeah, they ain't that

2652
02:28:06,840 --> 02:28:12,879
Speaker 1: after there was much you though, there's much more yellow

2653
02:28:13,000 --> 02:28:16,760
Speaker 1: though they don't much the other four years of wal

2654
02:28:17,320 --> 02:28:20,600
Speaker 1: So now we're going on a while. Though Wilder bro

2655
02:28:21,120 --> 02:28:24,080
Speaker 1: against the Joshua, of course, I think he's gonna he's

2656
02:28:24,080 --> 02:28:28,800
Speaker 1: gonna stop him. Cannello just got caught. What did he

2657
02:28:28,840 --> 02:28:31,160
Speaker 1: get called for Rice. He was taking some ship called

2658
02:28:31,200 --> 02:28:36,280
Speaker 1: cli clim Bauteral. It disappoints me, Rice, Yeah, mom my mom.

2659
02:28:36,400 --> 02:28:39,879
Speaker 1: The only cool we we were boxing fans. I'll look

2660
02:28:39,959 --> 02:28:42,039
Speaker 1: at your Twitter feed and this is that's how. That's

2661
02:28:42,040 --> 02:28:44,360
Speaker 1: how I know your real boxing thinking. I was looking

2662
02:28:44,400 --> 02:28:48,280
Speaker 1: at Twitter freedom like this Nickels saying everything. I don't know.

2663
02:28:49,160 --> 02:28:54,240
Speaker 1: Are you not disappointed of Cannello? Some ship called cli

2664
02:28:54,480 --> 02:28:58,480
Speaker 1: clim Bauteral steroid. I don't even want to try to

2665
02:28:58,560 --> 02:29:01,320
Speaker 1: impeat what that's calls. It's some kind of steroid. I

2666
02:29:01,360 --> 02:29:05,480
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what it does. But twice, Yeah, man,

2667
02:29:05,520 --> 02:29:09,000
Speaker 1: I was disappointed. I was disappointed. Go over twice the fighter.

2668
02:29:09,440 --> 02:29:14,480
Speaker 1: They're not fighting now. They just canceled it. Fu he

2669
02:29:14,560 --> 02:29:18,520
Speaker 1: suspended Canello like one of my favorite fighters too. Yeah.

2670
02:29:20,440 --> 02:29:27,240
Speaker 1: Am how you say how you saying this Spanish call

2671
02:29:27,320 --> 02:29:33,520
Speaker 1: them that's buddy. How How disappointed was you? I'm disappointed.

2672
02:29:33,560 --> 02:29:34,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like one of the only fights that

2673
02:29:34,959 --> 02:29:38,560
Speaker 1: I really want to I want not a little besides,

2674
02:29:38,680 --> 02:29:43,560
Speaker 1: you know, like Spence Verse Crawford. You got Spence versus Crawford,

2675
02:29:44,320 --> 02:29:49,320
Speaker 1: My home girl, Spence Spence Girl Spence Verse. In my opinion,

2676
02:29:49,480 --> 02:29:54,320
Speaker 1: the new may Weather. He's the main Weather. Don't play around. Well.

2677
02:29:54,360 --> 02:29:57,320
Speaker 1: I think Tarance Crawford is the new Mayweather. I think

2678
02:29:57,480 --> 02:30:02,560
Speaker 1: Terrice Crawford is a beast here beast too. That's my

2679
02:30:02,640 --> 02:30:09,080
Speaker 1: guy guy as well. But each other Charon's Cowford is

2680
02:30:09,120 --> 02:30:13,240
Speaker 1: fighting who well I'm saying, I'm just talking about the pass. No, no, no,

2681
02:30:13,400 --> 02:30:14,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't want I don't want people to

2682
02:30:14,840 --> 02:30:17,400
Speaker 1: think that. No, that's not happening yet. But you know,

2683
02:30:17,560 --> 02:30:19,400
Speaker 1: like when you look at every division, you see what

2684
02:30:19,560 --> 02:30:21,680
Speaker 1: the super fighter that movie I was supposed to be.

2685
02:30:22,360 --> 02:30:24,280
Speaker 1: So sometime in the future, that fight is gonna have

2686
02:30:24,360 --> 02:30:27,480
Speaker 1: to happen. They can't avoid each other because they they

2687
02:30:27,600 --> 02:30:30,120
Speaker 1: movements are too powerful. They running through everything moving, you

2688
02:30:30,160 --> 02:30:32,199
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And it's the same with Canelo,

2689
02:30:32,240 --> 02:30:36,680
Speaker 1: Triple G, Wilder, Joshua, those are like everything that's happening

2690
02:30:36,720 --> 02:30:39,240
Speaker 1: in these divisions are leading up to these fights. So

2691
02:30:39,920 --> 02:30:42,280
Speaker 1: and especially with how good the Canelo the Triple G

2692
02:30:42,440 --> 02:30:45,360
Speaker 1: first fight was, It's like, yo, bro, you just funked

2693
02:30:45,400 --> 02:30:48,600
Speaker 1: up the opportunity. Who did you think won that fight?

2694
02:30:48,720 --> 02:30:50,840
Speaker 1: In the opinion, I gave it to get I gave

2695
02:30:50,879 --> 02:30:52,880
Speaker 1: it the Triple G I gave it a triple g.

2696
02:30:53,680 --> 02:30:56,960
Speaker 1: I gave I gave it a triple I'm not. I

2697
02:30:57,120 --> 02:31:00,880
Speaker 1: was rooting for Cannelo though. I If they fighting, it's

2698
02:31:00,879 --> 02:31:03,480
Speaker 1: not rude for nobody. If they fight again, Canella's gonna

2699
02:31:03,480 --> 02:31:08,840
Speaker 1: stop him. He's gonna stop him, stop him if they fight.

2700
02:31:09,040 --> 02:31:12,880
Speaker 1: If they fight again, I'm on that, I think. And

2701
02:31:12,959 --> 02:31:16,280
Speaker 1: then now that so, now, are you familiar with the

2702
02:31:16,400 --> 02:31:18,560
Speaker 1: steroid that they saying that they caught him with. I

2703
02:31:18,680 --> 02:31:20,680
Speaker 1: heard of it before. I'm not. I'm not familiar with

2704
02:31:22,760 --> 02:31:25,880
Speaker 1: because the weed, because they do put steroids in the meat,

2705
02:31:25,959 --> 02:31:29,960
Speaker 1: so that's a valid Yeah, that's a that's an excuse

2706
02:31:30,320 --> 02:31:32,320
Speaker 1: they got cold. He got cold it twice. So yeah,

2707
02:31:33,440 --> 02:31:36,840
Speaker 1: heats a lot of them. He eats a lot of meat.

2708
02:31:38,200 --> 02:31:41,800
Speaker 1: That was you're gonna say, if one's this is a

2709
02:31:41,920 --> 02:31:48,240
Speaker 1: poss friendly podcast, you can say pausing, No, I just

2710
02:31:48,320 --> 02:31:51,039
Speaker 1: really want to know, because I don't want to It's

2711
02:31:51,080 --> 02:31:53,920
Speaker 1: like when somebody calls somebody a snitch. People call people

2712
02:31:53,920 --> 02:31:57,640
Speaker 1: a snitch and they don't have no fucking you know,

2713
02:31:58,360 --> 02:31:59,959
Speaker 1: like back in the days, you can't call him by

2714
02:32:00,000 --> 02:32:02,320
Speaker 1: that you out of the paperwork. You have to show

2715
02:32:02,400 --> 02:32:04,720
Speaker 1: these people this is what these snitch is the days

2716
02:32:04,760 --> 02:32:08,320
Speaker 1: snitch is obviously snitch too, But now there's anybody who

2717
02:32:08,400 --> 02:32:11,560
Speaker 1: said anybody's a snitch and everybody has to looking on it.

2718
02:32:12,320 --> 02:32:14,760
Speaker 1: So when you say that, I think they have the

2719
02:32:14,879 --> 02:32:19,200
Speaker 1: actual information for sure. As I said, he's a lot

2720
02:32:19,280 --> 02:32:22,520
Speaker 1: of meat. Yeah. No, I'm not saying plar. I'm saying

2721
02:32:22,840 --> 02:32:27,240
Speaker 1: to the people like, if cano is that, show me

2722
02:32:27,959 --> 02:32:31,240
Speaker 1: what it is. Obviously it has to be something real

2723
02:32:31,360 --> 02:32:33,480
Speaker 1: because they say this is the second time they caught

2724
02:32:33,560 --> 02:32:37,080
Speaker 1: him with Yeah, I mean it's from what I hear,

2725
02:32:37,760 --> 02:32:39,959
Speaker 1: like just looking at interviews from guys like Freddie Roach

2726
02:32:40,000 --> 02:32:43,720
Speaker 1: and Ship, they're basically saying that that's always their excuse,

2727
02:32:43,800 --> 02:32:45,560
Speaker 1: like the Mexican fighters and ship like that, when they

2728
02:32:45,600 --> 02:32:48,400
Speaker 1: get caught doing something, they always they got their excuse

2729
02:32:48,440 --> 02:32:50,560
Speaker 1: ready already. So I don't know if he really was

2730
02:32:50,640 --> 02:32:52,320
Speaker 1: doing it or not. I just know that ship don't

2731
02:32:52,360 --> 02:32:58,640
Speaker 1: look good. I suspended happening. Um what happened? Um? But

2732
02:32:58,800 --> 02:33:03,760
Speaker 1: the guy who had to the ship dude die? Oh

2733
02:33:03,920 --> 02:33:09,080
Speaker 1: that was they did, like uh not and prior not

2734
02:33:09,680 --> 02:33:12,200
Speaker 1: and prior yeah they said he was, but do you

2735
02:33:12,240 --> 02:33:15,800
Speaker 1: talk about when he fought a lection he didn't die

2736
02:33:15,840 --> 02:33:20,560
Speaker 1: though he didn't die of him. Yeah, he stood out

2737
02:33:21,040 --> 02:33:24,080
Speaker 1: and he had he had the ship on this. They

2738
02:33:24,160 --> 02:33:26,040
Speaker 1: was accusing them and taking something. They were saying it

2739
02:33:26,120 --> 02:33:30,120
Speaker 1: was something they caught. They caught some audio from the

2740
02:33:30,160 --> 02:33:34,880
Speaker 1: actual audio says, give the take this bottle, the other bottle,

2741
02:33:34,920 --> 02:33:36,879
Speaker 1: give me the other bottle is a real box of Yeah,

2742
02:33:36,879 --> 02:33:38,520
Speaker 1: they gave him, They gave him that bottle. He drank

2743
02:33:38,560 --> 02:33:40,440
Speaker 1: out of that bottom because he just came out the

2744
02:33:40,520 --> 02:33:41,879
Speaker 1: round and he was tired. But then when he gave

2745
02:33:41,959 --> 02:33:45,600
Speaker 1: him a special bottle, he came out smack into energy

2746
02:33:45,640 --> 02:33:47,480
Speaker 1: and he just came out and just so what that

2747
02:33:47,560 --> 02:33:51,879
Speaker 1: bottle have we don't know, We don't know to It's

2748
02:33:51,920 --> 02:34:00,720
Speaker 1: like the olive you time to really also minds the

2749
02:34:00,840 --> 02:34:06,560
Speaker 1: muscle cells and muscle proteins ands, which is why I

2750
02:34:06,600 --> 02:34:15,000
Speaker 1: also sounds like a great energy drink. Not to be confused,

2751
02:34:15,640 --> 02:34:27,240
Speaker 1: of course, it sounds fantastically horrible. So the boxing generation,

2752
02:34:28,000 --> 02:34:32,240
Speaker 1: what do you see it going from there? Um, First

2753
02:34:32,240 --> 02:34:34,280
Speaker 1: of all, I think boxing is in a great place

2754
02:34:34,400 --> 02:34:37,320
Speaker 1: right now. First off, I just want you to cut

2755
02:34:37,400 --> 02:34:40,160
Speaker 1: you off. And we have a podcast called a Drink

2756
02:34:40,240 --> 02:34:43,600
Speaker 1: Champions Network, and we would like you to be our

2757
02:34:43,720 --> 02:34:47,960
Speaker 1: boxing podcasts like for real we want you to be,

2758
02:34:48,600 --> 02:34:52,240
Speaker 1: you know, the guy that files the fights cap so,

2759
02:34:52,560 --> 02:34:55,480
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, like I just watch all of them,

2760
02:34:55,640 --> 02:34:58,040
Speaker 1: watch all and that's that's so dope because the thing

2761
02:34:58,080 --> 02:35:01,360
Speaker 1: about it is your legend. So you're a legend hip hop.

2762
02:35:01,959 --> 02:35:04,840
Speaker 1: So everybody can like actually sit back and say, you

2763
02:35:04,920 --> 02:35:07,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean, that's what I did because I

2764
02:35:07,840 --> 02:35:10,840
Speaker 1: looked and my father is a boxer. So that's the

2765
02:35:10,920 --> 02:35:13,360
Speaker 1: reason why I'm so much into it. And the way

2766
02:35:13,440 --> 02:35:17,080
Speaker 1: you're talking, you're talking like me, I'm like, I think

2767
02:35:17,120 --> 02:35:19,520
Speaker 1: I know more than everybody. It's just me. It's just

2768
02:35:19,600 --> 02:35:22,200
Speaker 1: who I am. You know. And when when he I

2769
02:35:22,400 --> 02:35:24,720
Speaker 1: think I told more than everybody or I know more

2770
02:35:24,760 --> 02:35:26,720
Speaker 1: than everybody, and then this thing is talking like me,

2771
02:35:26,840 --> 02:35:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's dangerous. I'm seeing somebody who's me, Like,

2772
02:35:35,240 --> 02:35:39,120
Speaker 1: who's me? It's not me. So instead up, instead of

2773
02:35:39,200 --> 02:35:41,520
Speaker 1: trying to compete with you, I immediately want to get

2774
02:35:41,560 --> 02:35:44,240
Speaker 1: down with you because that's something that hip hop. That's

2775
02:35:44,280 --> 02:35:45,920
Speaker 1: what we have to do. The thing is we have

2776
02:35:46,080 --> 02:35:49,280
Speaker 1: to start doing other hustles. And right there, right right there,

2777
02:35:49,400 --> 02:35:53,000
Speaker 1: I can see you go into ah and every boxing match,

2778
02:35:53,600 --> 02:35:56,520
Speaker 1: regardless of it's in Barclay's it's just such a such

2779
02:35:56,720 --> 02:35:58,640
Speaker 1: and you're just covering the boxing match or some hip

2780
02:35:58,680 --> 02:36:01,240
Speaker 1: hop ship. You don't gotta be in a world. You

2781
02:36:01,280 --> 02:36:03,200
Speaker 1: don't gonna be in the world and doing like you

2782
02:36:03,480 --> 02:36:10,200
Speaker 1: being unifor listen, nigga ship win damn you. We don't

2783
02:36:10,240 --> 02:36:12,240
Speaker 1: even gotta We weren't gonna funk with them like we

2784
02:36:12,400 --> 02:36:15,520
Speaker 1: just you'd be behind the scenes the boxing nigga of

2785
02:36:15,840 --> 02:36:19,400
Speaker 1: our fucking generation point to us, they don't even gotta

2786
02:36:19,400 --> 02:36:22,360
Speaker 1: funk with us, like the boxing generation. This hip hop

2787
02:36:22,440 --> 02:36:25,360
Speaker 1: funk with us. That's it. Like like I watched Bill Moore,

2788
02:36:25,440 --> 02:36:28,560
Speaker 1: I don't funk with news, but I watched Bill Moore.

2789
02:36:29,200 --> 02:36:31,160
Speaker 1: I don't funk with news. I don't turn him off

2790
02:36:31,200 --> 02:36:37,240
Speaker 1: and go to c CBS or CNN, Fox, you know,

2791
02:36:37,560 --> 02:36:39,280
Speaker 1: or Fox and see him what he just said was

2792
02:36:39,400 --> 02:36:43,160
Speaker 1: the truth. No, I just funk with his facts, whatever

2793
02:36:43,240 --> 02:36:48,280
Speaker 1: his facts is. I'm working with that. I'm sorry, that's

2794
02:36:48,400 --> 02:36:54,320
Speaker 1: part of the problems. Definitely create the solution. Let's create

2795
02:36:54,360 --> 02:37:02,560
Speaker 1: the solution. This watch right in the bathroom where I

2796
02:37:05,200 --> 02:37:18,879
Speaker 1: think no talk. Sorry, sorry, sadist, such thing I talk

2797
02:37:18,959 --> 02:37:25,200
Speaker 1: about this mop shadow box of the check he said

2798
02:37:27,120 --> 02:37:31,080
Speaker 1: was probably want to know. I'm just trying to get

2799
02:37:31,080 --> 02:37:33,000
Speaker 1: off the dockroom. But this looks like Poppy on the

2800
02:37:33,040 --> 02:37:36,880
Speaker 1: shop side, like I'm just scared again, I tell you,

2801
02:37:37,000 --> 02:37:39,360
Speaker 1: and coming like that. This thing is fucking but on

2802
02:37:39,520 --> 02:37:42,320
Speaker 1: you from the door. He's sucking throwing puncheon. So when

2803
02:37:42,360 --> 02:37:45,240
Speaker 1: I go I go to my dad, I'm like throwing

2804
02:37:45,320 --> 02:37:47,600
Speaker 1: out punches and ships. Yea the bun until you could

2805
02:37:47,600 --> 02:37:51,800
Speaker 1: be mad weird, that's like that'sch I'm like, what who

2806
02:37:51,879 --> 02:37:54,480
Speaker 1: fuses that? And that was a porter ricking box. And

2807
02:37:54,560 --> 02:37:56,320
Speaker 1: then he went up to him and he's a pictures

2808
02:37:56,360 --> 02:37:59,920
Speaker 1: and he came sat with us my psssts from not

2809
02:38:00,520 --> 02:38:03,200
Speaker 1: just so you know that. You know, that's what all

2810
02:38:03,440 --> 02:38:06,600
Speaker 1: real boxes do. At some point, they'll be hanging out

2811
02:38:06,680 --> 02:38:08,560
Speaker 1: with you. They'll be chilling and they'll just get up

2812
02:38:08,600 --> 02:38:13,520
Speaker 1: and shadow even like what the fucking role with this bicker,

2813
02:38:13,959 --> 02:38:17,640
Speaker 1: I'll kick you, don't listen. I'm a real boxing fan.

2814
02:38:18,040 --> 02:38:20,600
Speaker 1: I hung out with everybody from the niggas test here,

2815
02:38:21,080 --> 02:38:23,440
Speaker 1: so the niggas just there and they all just at

2816
02:38:23,520 --> 02:38:29,160
Speaker 1: one point it was like throw the combinations just be

2817
02:38:29,280 --> 02:38:32,600
Speaker 1: walking somewhere, the walking to the bathroom. You're like, yo, nigger,

2818
02:38:36,560 --> 02:38:40,920
Speaker 1: I swear to God this is that's not abnormal at all.

2819
02:38:42,240 --> 02:38:48,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't no, no, but but people, let me

2820
02:38:48,280 --> 02:38:51,760
Speaker 1: just say you something. People who write rhymes and they

2821
02:38:51,920 --> 02:38:55,880
Speaker 1: had they are a little bit more crazier than the

2822
02:38:56,120 --> 02:39:00,520
Speaker 1: most And I don't mean crazier like what I mean

2823
02:39:00,640 --> 02:39:06,520
Speaker 1: is you're talking about yeah big jay, like they're a

2824
02:39:06,560 --> 02:39:10,040
Speaker 1: little bit more like for elmetric, for lack of a

2825
02:39:10,120 --> 02:39:14,640
Speaker 1: better word, I want to say weirder because right around

2826
02:39:15,160 --> 02:39:17,680
Speaker 1: usually you're supposed to say pulling it on, remember that

2827
02:39:17,840 --> 02:39:21,119
Speaker 1: line and put it jotted down. But when you're you're

2828
02:39:21,240 --> 02:39:28,000
Speaker 1: superseded that smartness, you also supersede that weirdness where it's

2829
02:39:28,160 --> 02:39:31,240
Speaker 1: like kind of because just think about it, even when

2830
02:39:31,240 --> 02:39:35,360
Speaker 1: you write the rhynd, you're looking weird as fuck because

2831
02:39:35,400 --> 02:39:37,800
Speaker 1: you can't even communicate with somebody while you're doing it.

2832
02:39:39,200 --> 02:39:45,920
Speaker 1: Like somebody said, with something up to it yeah yeah,

2833
02:39:46,280 --> 02:39:49,879
Speaker 1: and you and they know you want to rolling talking

2834
02:39:49,920 --> 02:39:53,200
Speaker 1: to yourself. You're actually talking to yourself, so you're just

2835
02:39:53,480 --> 02:39:56,440
Speaker 1: weird as opposed to when you fit it on paper,

2836
02:39:56,560 --> 02:39:58,920
Speaker 1: you put it on your phone. I go right on

2837
02:39:59,000 --> 02:40:03,520
Speaker 1: line and like yeah cheese that yes you know I

2838
02:40:03,640 --> 02:40:09,120
Speaker 1: want yes, I would like like blue cheese, okay, cool,

2839
02:40:09,280 --> 02:40:11,200
Speaker 1: and you keep it going. But when you write in

2840
02:40:11,280 --> 02:40:16,960
Speaker 1: your head, you gotta block out everything. You gotta block

2841
02:40:17,040 --> 02:40:21,440
Speaker 1: out because if anybody say anything, you're gonna forget that.

2842
02:40:21,520 --> 02:40:26,560
Speaker 1: You said the Dutch Master Blue right Ryan section two.

2843
02:40:27,080 --> 02:40:30,720
Speaker 1: What you're gonna do a body with who you're gonna

2844
02:40:30,840 --> 02:40:33,440
Speaker 1: You're gonna forget all that. So you have to just

2845
02:40:33,560 --> 02:40:36,320
Speaker 1: stay there and you just stay focused. But then you're

2846
02:40:36,360 --> 02:40:38,720
Speaker 1: not writing it down, so you have to stay focused.

2847
02:40:38,800 --> 02:40:43,280
Speaker 1: To you, it's a weird thing. The weird. I salute

2848
02:40:43,280 --> 02:40:46,400
Speaker 1: to everybody. Gon do it, salute everybody who does. I

2849
02:40:46,440 --> 02:40:47,840
Speaker 1: had to do that. I had to do that ship

2850
02:40:47,879 --> 02:40:50,000
Speaker 1: when you have to start learning how to write your

2851
02:40:50,000 --> 02:40:52,360
Speaker 1: wrong when I first got sober, when I first started

2852
02:40:52,400 --> 02:40:55,039
Speaker 1: writing again sober because there had been so many years

2853
02:40:55,840 --> 02:41:04,160
Speaker 1: I couldn't write. I want to hear the sober. Yeah,

2854
02:41:04,200 --> 02:41:06,320
Speaker 1: that ship was almost six years ago. And it was like,

2855
02:41:06,959 --> 02:41:10,160
Speaker 1: what about you have a muslimoia right now? Right? You

2856
02:41:10,280 --> 02:41:15,600
Speaker 1: have oils Muslim oiers, brother, Like that's like, that's that's

2857
02:41:15,640 --> 02:41:21,520
Speaker 1: like Agyptian, It's like something like that. You know my

2858
02:41:21,560 --> 02:41:24,800
Speaker 1: old school Muslim oil niggers? Is that? Am I correct

2859
02:41:24,879 --> 02:41:27,879
Speaker 1: on a But it's something similar, something similar. All right,

2860
02:41:27,959 --> 02:41:30,240
Speaker 1: keep you going. I mean when I got when I

2861
02:41:30,320 --> 02:41:33,039
Speaker 1: got sober, it was like I had to teach myself,

2862
02:41:33,400 --> 02:41:36,440
Speaker 1: not teach myself, but get myself back accustomed to writing

2863
02:41:36,520 --> 02:41:39,480
Speaker 1: and doing ship without drinking. But can you tell us

2864
02:41:39,560 --> 02:41:41,800
Speaker 1: what this? What you how you got to the place

2865
02:41:41,920 --> 02:41:45,280
Speaker 1: to become sober? Oh ship? I mean, I just was

2866
02:41:45,360 --> 02:41:48,480
Speaker 1: making you know, everything that was wrong, every single thing

2867
02:41:48,600 --> 02:41:54,080
Speaker 1: that was wrong in my life, the path from that lead,

2868
02:41:54,160 --> 02:41:58,199
Speaker 1: the liquor, everything. It just affected my decision making across

2869
02:41:58,240 --> 02:42:00,840
Speaker 1: the board, you know what I'm saying, like all my decisions,

2870
02:42:00,920 --> 02:42:03,480
Speaker 1: like the people I chose to be around. I think

2871
02:42:03,480 --> 02:42:07,960
Speaker 1: it pointed at me that was sucked up because I know,

2872
02:42:09,080 --> 02:42:12,800
Speaker 1: because he knows you're a chance you can afford you.

2873
02:42:13,560 --> 02:42:16,680
Speaker 1: I know you can attest to that. I didn't have

2874
02:42:16,800 --> 02:42:25,119
Speaker 1: nobody to say, you know, so the people. I chose

2875
02:42:25,200 --> 02:42:29,040
Speaker 1: this around myself with the chicks, I chose this around myself.

2876
02:42:29,080 --> 02:42:30,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It was just it was

2877
02:42:30,360 --> 02:42:33,120
Speaker 1: just everything was bad. Like the last thing, did you

2878
02:42:33,160 --> 02:42:35,120
Speaker 1: see the media takeout? Ship from the Chick exposed me

2879
02:42:35,200 --> 02:42:38,360
Speaker 1: on media take out? Damn, You're gonna remind me to

2880
02:42:38,440 --> 02:42:41,039
Speaker 1: remember this because I know I saw it. Yeah, yes,

2881
02:42:41,600 --> 02:42:44,920
Speaker 1: so that ship happened. It was just too much happen happening. Yeah,

2882
02:42:46,080 --> 02:42:55,960
Speaker 1: I was having the three some of chess girls the

2883
02:42:56,000 --> 02:42:59,120
Speaker 1: worst living is like let me, let's not get so

2884
02:42:59,720 --> 02:43:04,360
Speaker 1: if something, I'm sorry, Yeah, so, um, I'm I'm drunk

2885
02:43:04,400 --> 02:43:06,160
Speaker 1: and fuck you know what I'm saying. So it's like

2886
02:43:06,240 --> 02:43:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm sucking the one girl and then the

2887
02:43:09,000 --> 02:43:11,720
Speaker 1: um the other girls recording me but I don't, I

2888
02:43:11,800 --> 02:43:15,200
Speaker 1: don't know. And then like I'm sleep, I'm passed out

2889
02:43:15,200 --> 02:43:17,039
Speaker 1: on the couch and she's taking pictures of me while

2890
02:43:17,080 --> 02:43:21,720
Speaker 1: I'm sleep, you know what I'm saying. So time went by.

2891
02:43:22,000 --> 02:43:23,760
Speaker 1: I think she was mad at me because I wasn't

2892
02:43:23,760 --> 02:43:25,280
Speaker 1: like answering the phone and some ship, you know what

2893
02:43:25,320 --> 02:43:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But um, she ended up. I don't know

2894
02:43:28,040 --> 02:43:30,360
Speaker 1: if she sold him or whatever. She gave the pictures

2895
02:43:30,400 --> 02:43:33,320
Speaker 1: and ship the media take out. So I get a

2896
02:43:33,400 --> 02:43:39,800
Speaker 1: call from my side, chick mad cursing me out because

2897
02:43:39,800 --> 02:43:42,360
Speaker 1: I'm on media takeout. My wife don't even know, you know,

2898
02:43:42,400 --> 02:43:44,240
Speaker 1: I was saying, like, so now I got my side

2899
02:43:44,360 --> 02:43:46,800
Speaker 1: chick mad at me for some ship that I did.

2900
02:43:47,040 --> 02:43:48,880
Speaker 1: And then I got to be the one to tell

2901
02:43:48,959 --> 02:43:51,560
Speaker 1: my wife. And then I got into so much ship,

2902
02:43:51,680 --> 02:43:53,600
Speaker 1: got caught doing so much ship for my wife. My

2903
02:43:53,680 --> 02:43:56,800
Speaker 1: wife wasn't even as mad as my side chick. Like

2904
02:43:56,920 --> 02:43:58,960
Speaker 1: everything was just off, you know what I'm saying. It

2905
02:43:59,040 --> 02:44:01,640
Speaker 1: was just like I was like, I gotta make some changes, man,

2906
02:44:02,160 --> 02:44:04,840
Speaker 1: And then it was just like my marriage was ruined,

2907
02:44:05,200 --> 02:44:08,920
Speaker 1: was getting ruined. I was at a financial high in life,

2908
02:44:09,640 --> 02:44:13,200
Speaker 1: but I was just at a time more morally, I

2909
02:44:13,320 --> 02:44:15,960
Speaker 1: was underground. I was buried. You know what I'm saying,

2910
02:44:16,160 --> 02:44:18,600
Speaker 1: No more morals, no more integrity is a man, you

2911
02:44:18,680 --> 02:44:20,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like you look at the word

2912
02:44:20,320 --> 02:44:23,320
Speaker 1: loyalty and it's like people break that word down and

2913
02:44:23,440 --> 02:44:27,560
Speaker 1: they they put they turn it into so many different parts,

2914
02:44:27,640 --> 02:44:29,720
Speaker 1: Like it ain't just one word, Like would you ever

2915
02:44:29,840 --> 02:44:32,680
Speaker 1: fuck your man's girl? No, you wouldn't think about it.

2916
02:44:32,760 --> 02:44:34,960
Speaker 1: Not that you're drunk is but you're cheating on your

2917
02:44:35,000 --> 02:44:36,560
Speaker 1: wife in a minute, you know what I'm saying. And

2918
02:44:36,600 --> 02:44:39,360
Speaker 1: it's like this is horrible, which is fucking horrible. I

2919
02:44:39,760 --> 02:44:49,440
Speaker 1: just don't get married. You just nigga. Literally my karma,

2920
02:44:49,560 --> 02:44:51,600
Speaker 1: My karma is, it's it's instant with you know what

2921
02:44:51,640 --> 02:44:53,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying like it's instant. Were you ever the salvage

2922
02:44:53,800 --> 02:44:58,199
Speaker 1: the marriage? Yeah, okay, Coradulus, Yeah, so I mean should

2923
02:44:58,200 --> 02:44:59,640
Speaker 1: I woke up one day in the hotel room and

2924
02:44:59,680 --> 02:45:01,280
Speaker 1: I was like, it's time to stop, you know what

2925
02:45:01,280 --> 02:45:03,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I felt like and this is after

2926
02:45:04,000 --> 02:45:07,160
Speaker 1: Marshall had already became so he was years in because

2927
02:45:07,200 --> 02:45:09,760
Speaker 1: you and him used to get drunk together. Correct, Yeah,

2928
02:45:09,840 --> 02:45:13,920
Speaker 1: he he didn't. He was never really a drinker like that,

2929
02:45:14,000 --> 02:45:18,920
Speaker 1: but he was popping pills and we got drunk together,

2930
02:45:19,080 --> 02:45:20,640
Speaker 1: you know, plenty of times. You know what I'm saying.

2931
02:45:21,120 --> 02:45:23,200
Speaker 1: I mean, ship all my friends was pretty much my

2932
02:45:23,320 --> 02:45:26,600
Speaker 1: drinking buddy. He doesn't say, It's like, that's pretty much

2933
02:45:26,640 --> 02:45:28,880
Speaker 1: what my life was. But the only difference is I'm

2934
02:45:28,879 --> 02:45:31,320
Speaker 1: an addict, Like I'm wired like an addict. So you know,

2935
02:45:31,400 --> 02:45:33,640
Speaker 1: when we're sitting around having fun, y'all is just drinking

2936
02:45:33,680 --> 02:45:35,640
Speaker 1: and having fun. When the drink Champs interview is over

2937
02:45:35,720 --> 02:45:38,200
Speaker 1: and you go home and chill, I'm still love drinking.

2938
02:45:38,200 --> 02:45:41,080
Speaker 1: I can't stop. Damn. That's me right now. I think

2939
02:45:41,160 --> 02:45:46,840
Speaker 1: that not we already have to go there, Hey, b no,

2940
02:45:47,000 --> 02:45:49,200
Speaker 1: but we balanced it. We do work out. We do

2941
02:45:49,440 --> 02:45:52,360
Speaker 1: know we we take, we take days out of drinking,

2942
02:45:52,440 --> 02:45:55,400
Speaker 1: and we take saying we cannot because we're fucked up.

2943
02:45:55,440 --> 02:45:57,760
Speaker 1: I kid you not and your baby show. You got

2944
02:45:57,760 --> 02:46:00,280
Speaker 1: a baby shop, put my baby shop. I want to

2945
02:46:00,320 --> 02:46:02,640
Speaker 1: put your business on the street. I want to put

2946
02:46:02,680 --> 02:46:05,160
Speaker 1: your business on the streets. I finally found out that

2947
02:46:05,240 --> 02:46:13,240
Speaker 1: my partner, Dick worked sound I know, even royal and

2948
02:46:13,360 --> 02:46:15,720
Speaker 1: business for twenty years, he said. And he said, and

2949
02:46:16,120 --> 02:46:19,640
Speaker 1: I was like, this nigga ship ain't working because I

2950
02:46:19,760 --> 02:46:24,759
Speaker 1: got len pregnancies. He said, this is a pause friendly shows.

2951
02:46:25,720 --> 02:46:29,560
Speaker 1: So I said, well, I'm glad to know that she

2952
02:46:29,760 --> 02:46:32,280
Speaker 1: is ship is working. Glad to know you gotta you

2953
02:46:32,360 --> 02:46:33,960
Speaker 1: got you got a baby on the way. About this

2954
02:46:34,200 --> 02:46:36,680
Speaker 1: reveal to agenda, I won't do that. And the baby

2955
02:46:36,680 --> 02:46:38,920
Speaker 1: shop was private too, and the baby was private too.

2956
02:46:38,920 --> 02:46:52,720
Speaker 1: I won't say where it is, but voice so hip hop, man,

2957
02:46:54,080 --> 02:46:56,360
Speaker 1: did you think that hip hop would be where it's at?

2958
02:46:57,000 --> 02:47:03,280
Speaker 1: And what I'm saying is because listening to you, I

2959
02:47:03,280 --> 02:47:05,680
Speaker 1: imagine you come from the same place that hip hop

2960
02:47:06,160 --> 02:47:08,200
Speaker 1: where we are. When you had to have lyrics, that

2961
02:47:08,360 --> 02:47:11,200
Speaker 1: was the first thing of your outfit, Like before you

2962
02:47:11,320 --> 02:47:14,879
Speaker 1: care about having an Adidas, before you care about how

2963
02:47:14,959 --> 02:47:18,160
Speaker 1: the likes. At least you had your lyrics straight. Yeah,

2964
02:47:18,720 --> 02:47:22,119
Speaker 1: then you were worried about your outfit. Right now, people

2965
02:47:22,200 --> 02:47:25,120
Speaker 1: worry about the outfit, They worry about the rember, about

2966
02:47:25,160 --> 02:47:29,000
Speaker 1: everything else but the lyrics. The lyrics last. Right now,

2967
02:47:29,080 --> 02:47:32,840
Speaker 1: I think, unfortunately, can you stand this arrow hip hop?

2968
02:47:33,000 --> 02:47:35,640
Speaker 1: I choose to deal with it. It's me. Yeah, I

2969
02:47:35,760 --> 02:47:37,360
Speaker 1: choose to deal with it too. I don't think all

2970
02:47:37,440 --> 02:47:41,160
Speaker 1: of it is for me, right you know what I mean? So, Dog,

2971
02:47:41,240 --> 02:47:45,920
Speaker 1: I'm real Like I'm I'm good at being okay with ship.

2972
02:47:46,320 --> 02:47:48,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like, I realized if it's

2973
02:47:48,560 --> 02:47:50,960
Speaker 1: not for me, it ain't up to me to get

2974
02:47:51,000 --> 02:47:52,880
Speaker 1: all upset. It's up to me to just find a

2975
02:47:52,920 --> 02:47:54,440
Speaker 1: ship that I like to listen to, and just to

2976
02:47:54,560 --> 02:47:57,000
Speaker 1: listen to that ship, you know what I'm saying. Like,

2977
02:47:57,760 --> 02:48:00,240
Speaker 1: that's the luxury we're at today, though, we could find

2978
02:48:00,280 --> 02:48:04,520
Speaker 1: whatever we want everything every he's a DJ, he should

2979
02:48:04,520 --> 02:48:06,840
Speaker 1: be DJ in every party. I think he's that stubborn

2980
02:48:07,000 --> 02:48:09,400
Speaker 1: that he don't want a DJ because you don't want to.

2981
02:48:10,200 --> 02:48:13,400
Speaker 1: This is my opinion. Remember, remember going back to what

2982
02:48:13,480 --> 02:48:16,920
Speaker 1: we were talking to, Listen, we have one of the

2983
02:48:17,000 --> 02:48:19,920
Speaker 1: most hottest shows in the world. They wanted to DJ everywhere.

2984
02:48:20,120 --> 02:48:22,160
Speaker 1: You know, you want to say, I don't want to

2985
02:48:22,160 --> 02:48:25,480
Speaker 1: play this ship. I want to play old school ship.

2986
02:48:25,600 --> 02:48:37,160
Speaker 1: He's too busy making babies. Man. I want to say,

2987
02:48:37,440 --> 02:48:44,160
Speaker 1: we keep doing so we were talking about earlier, but

2988
02:48:44,360 --> 02:48:46,440
Speaker 1: motherfucker's get they get used to ship, you know what

2989
02:48:46,480 --> 02:48:50,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, lyricism was so important for so long,

2990
02:48:50,480 --> 02:48:52,720
Speaker 1: we just got used to it. In order for hip

2991
02:48:52,760 --> 02:48:55,600
Speaker 1: hop to evolve, people had to open up new doors,

2992
02:48:56,000 --> 02:48:57,560
Speaker 1: you know. So it's a little hard for us to

2993
02:48:57,640 --> 02:49:00,680
Speaker 1: accept that lyricism is in the fourth front in terms

2994
02:49:00,720 --> 02:49:02,920
Speaker 1: of like and music, but it's also you know, it's

2995
02:49:02,959 --> 02:49:06,000
Speaker 1: making us mature as listeners to but it's still it's

2996
02:49:06,040 --> 02:49:08,960
Speaker 1: still there because the difference between now and before is

2997
02:49:09,040 --> 02:49:10,880
Speaker 1: that it's not like you said, it's not on the forefront,

2998
02:49:11,680 --> 02:49:14,040
Speaker 1: but there's still lyricists. There's young cats that are still

2999
02:49:14,120 --> 02:49:19,039
Speaker 1: pushing lyrical ability. They're still like we got Denzel Curry,

3000
02:49:19,680 --> 02:49:22,160
Speaker 1: we got Kendrick. He might be not the youngest cat,

3001
02:49:22,280 --> 02:49:25,640
Speaker 1: but he's in that young and to me, he's like

3002
02:49:25,720 --> 02:49:27,600
Speaker 1: one of the us I've ever seen in my lifetime.

3003
02:49:27,720 --> 02:49:31,520
Speaker 1: The people, the people who are truly on top and

3004
02:49:31,640 --> 02:49:35,080
Speaker 1: have had the best careers from this generation, you know,

3005
02:49:35,200 --> 02:49:39,720
Speaker 1: like Kendrick Cole. Guys like that. They're to dare the lyricists, right,

3006
02:49:39,800 --> 02:49:43,119
Speaker 1: but listen, lys, but you you you when you're get

3007
02:49:43,160 --> 02:49:45,879
Speaker 1: in the gym and you're good in it because well

3008
02:49:45,920 --> 02:49:48,480
Speaker 1: all overweight, all of us right at one point and

3009
02:49:48,520 --> 02:49:50,400
Speaker 1: then we got in the gym. We got our ship together.

3010
02:49:50,760 --> 02:49:54,480
Speaker 1: But we're in the gym. You can't front. You do

3011
02:49:54,680 --> 02:49:59,560
Speaker 1: not turn off? He says, you do not, or you

3012
02:49:59,680 --> 02:50:02,680
Speaker 1: do I do not. I leave it on when it

3013
02:50:02,760 --> 02:50:06,320
Speaker 1: comes on, my off turn on. I'll leave it on.

3014
02:50:06,800 --> 02:50:13,360
Speaker 1: Google's actually in the Kanye in the studio. Yeah, studio,

3015
02:50:13,840 --> 02:50:15,960
Speaker 1: the gym, I mean the gym. I'm sorry, sorry, I

3016
02:50:16,080 --> 02:50:18,680
Speaker 1: think you turn on. Gucci Gang want to come on car? No, No,

3017
02:50:18,920 --> 02:50:20,800
Speaker 1: I don't. I see you got a porch pran to marrow.

3018
02:50:20,879 --> 02:50:34,680
Speaker 1: It's very nice white. He's gonna give y'all listen when

3019
02:50:34,720 --> 02:50:38,400
Speaker 1: you wear it in the car and good game come

3020
02:50:38,480 --> 02:50:41,080
Speaker 1: up and you got on GOOCHI because I also watched.

3021
02:50:41,200 --> 02:50:45,280
Speaker 1: You're tired. You're very Gooccie Gang too, You're very and

3022
02:50:45,360 --> 02:50:48,520
Speaker 1: then let's come on good and you're as I think

3023
02:50:48,560 --> 02:50:52,199
Speaker 1: it's cool. It's a cool song song you. I don't

3024
02:50:52,280 --> 02:50:54,760
Speaker 1: turn it off even when I'm in like Googi Gang,

3025
02:50:55,400 --> 02:50:57,960
Speaker 1: even even like it happen and like the club and

3026
02:50:58,000 --> 02:51:01,520
Speaker 1: ship like that, and you don't really want to hear

3027
02:51:01,600 --> 02:51:04,640
Speaker 1: like no super super lyrical shop wants in the club

3028
02:51:05,640 --> 02:51:09,200
Speaker 1: responsible ignorance music. That's what you're an adult. Music should

3029
02:51:09,200 --> 02:51:16,880
Speaker 1: be like that, though, that's a good one. Music should

3030
02:51:16,879 --> 02:51:18,920
Speaker 1: be like that though. Music should be like a soundtrack

3031
02:51:19,000 --> 02:51:21,360
Speaker 1: to every single thing that could possibly go onto your life.

3032
02:51:21,600 --> 02:51:23,640
Speaker 1: It should be music for everything. It should be music

3033
02:51:23,720 --> 02:51:26,800
Speaker 1: for every movie, just like watching movie, you know what,

3034
02:51:27,240 --> 02:51:29,840
Speaker 1: Like I prefer lyrics, you know what I mean? But

3035
02:51:30,000 --> 02:51:32,800
Speaker 1: also you know, like I like tons of different styles

3036
02:51:32,879 --> 02:51:36,120
Speaker 1: of music, different kinds of different genres, you know what

3037
02:51:36,200 --> 02:51:38,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you can pick something out of any

3038
02:51:38,879 --> 02:51:41,080
Speaker 1: anything that these young dudes are doing. Some of it

3039
02:51:41,280 --> 02:51:43,320
Speaker 1: is just like not not tolerable. You can't listen to it.

3040
02:51:43,400 --> 02:51:45,400
Speaker 1: But should I just turn it off? I think there's

3041
02:51:45,440 --> 02:51:47,720
Speaker 1: different conversations when you're talking about like if you want

3042
02:51:47,720 --> 02:51:50,640
Speaker 1: to talk about the upliftment of hip hop culture. Yeah,

3043
02:51:51,000 --> 02:51:54,560
Speaker 1: I mean I think those are different conversations. Good you

3044
02:51:54,640 --> 02:51:57,640
Speaker 1: goddamn it. And this is drink chap, motherfucker podcast. We

3045
02:51:57,800 --> 02:52:03,520
Speaker 1: did we had to do the wrong before we get

3046
02:52:03,560 --> 02:52:08,320
Speaker 1: about it here, before we get about it. So is

3047
02:52:08,400 --> 02:52:11,280
Speaker 1: it difficult for you to be around environments as a

3048
02:52:11,360 --> 02:52:14,520
Speaker 1: person that's sober, because we want our fans to know

3049
02:52:14,720 --> 02:52:18,400
Speaker 1: that you can listen to us sober as well, just

3050
02:52:18,520 --> 02:52:21,200
Speaker 1: because we're getting inviriated that we're doing all this. This

3051
02:52:21,360 --> 02:52:24,480
Speaker 1: is about hip hop history. You're saying about us getting

3052
02:52:24,600 --> 02:52:28,960
Speaker 1: drunk or whatever. And we had Joe on there and

3053
02:52:29,080 --> 02:52:30,600
Speaker 1: now we have you on You and y'all both have

3054
02:52:30,720 --> 02:52:36,680
Speaker 1: similar stories being you know, recovering. Um, how hard is

3055
02:52:36,720 --> 02:52:40,600
Speaker 1: it to maintain an everyday society after you make that switch.

3056
02:52:41,320 --> 02:52:43,520
Speaker 1: It's not difficult for me, now, you know when I

3057
02:52:43,600 --> 02:52:47,600
Speaker 1: first when I first got sober, I didn't I didn't trust.

3058
02:52:49,120 --> 02:52:51,120
Speaker 1: I didn't trust being in a certain environment. So I

3059
02:52:51,200 --> 02:52:53,360
Speaker 1: just didn't allow myself to be in those environments. Like

3060
02:52:53,400 --> 02:52:55,280
Speaker 1: I was about to We're just about to do a

3061
02:52:55,280 --> 02:52:57,800
Speaker 1: slaughterhouse store. When I got sober, I had to call

3062
02:52:58,000 --> 02:52:59,879
Speaker 1: all the guys in the group individually and just tell

3063
02:53:00,080 --> 02:53:03,600
Speaker 1: that I couldn't go, because, yeah, we weren't able to

3064
02:53:03,640 --> 02:53:06,520
Speaker 1: do because I didn't know. I didn't know what sobriety was.

3065
02:53:07,000 --> 02:53:08,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know if it was a situation where if

3066
02:53:09,080 --> 02:53:10,640
Speaker 1: some liquor what I want something? You know what I'm saying,

3067
02:53:10,680 --> 02:53:12,520
Speaker 1: like the should be like dangling and stake in front

3068
02:53:12,560 --> 02:53:15,080
Speaker 1: of my face and steps. Is that what you did? Yeah,

3069
02:53:15,160 --> 02:53:20,080
Speaker 1: you automatically do with steps And he was a patron guy. Yeah,

3070
02:53:20,120 --> 02:53:23,320
Speaker 1: my last went through different I went through. I went

3071
02:53:23,360 --> 02:53:26,320
Speaker 1: through different phases in my in my drunkardness. But I

3072
02:53:26,400 --> 02:53:29,600
Speaker 1: had a legendary drunkard that means he drank. Give us

3073
02:53:29,640 --> 02:53:31,920
Speaker 1: the legendary drink of this story. I mean I started

3074
02:53:31,920 --> 02:53:34,840
Speaker 1: out with the first drink I ever drink was Jack

3075
02:53:34,920 --> 02:53:40,240
Speaker 1: Daniels with Dre with Dr Dre Jack Daniels, Dr Dre,

3076
02:53:40,640 --> 02:53:44,760
Speaker 1: Dr Doctor Drake. That sounds to the studio I was saying.

3077
02:53:45,120 --> 02:53:51,240
Speaker 1: I was what you're saying that Dr Dre out together.

3078
02:53:51,400 --> 02:53:55,440
Speaker 1: I didn't realize the way I worded it. What's you're

3079
02:53:55,440 --> 02:54:04,480
Speaker 1: gonna name this episode? Name? You had to cause friendly good? Yeah.

3080
02:54:04,560 --> 02:54:06,959
Speaker 1: So I started out with Jack Daniels and then um,

3081
02:54:08,000 --> 02:54:11,039
Speaker 1: I started drinking Riccardi with Marshall. Just Riccardi straight, that's

3082
02:54:11,080 --> 02:54:13,560
Speaker 1: all we're drinking and Riccarti straight. I always I'm a

3083
02:54:13,640 --> 02:54:16,600
Speaker 1: Cardi Lemon, just a Cardi Cardy Lemon was next, No,

3084
02:54:16,720 --> 02:54:18,600
Speaker 1: don't do it, don't do it, don't go there, And

3085
02:54:18,680 --> 02:54:20,840
Speaker 1: I was about to say I'd never ever in my

3086
02:54:21,040 --> 02:54:23,959
Speaker 1: drinking career drink mixed drinks. The moon is the worst.

3087
02:54:25,360 --> 02:54:28,880
Speaker 1: You never drink. You're a real rock ship, isn't in

3088
02:54:28,920 --> 02:54:31,440
Speaker 1: the way. I'm sorry, I don't. I don't mean to

3089
02:54:31,520 --> 02:54:33,640
Speaker 1: sounds like an alcoholic that's trying to bring you back.

3090
02:54:34,000 --> 02:54:36,200
Speaker 1: But you do it because I love me. This sound

3091
02:54:36,320 --> 02:54:38,920
Speaker 1: like that guy you understanding that m ain't have been

3092
02:54:38,959 --> 02:54:42,800
Speaker 1: the problem. Is you just gonna way too hard man.

3093
02:54:42,959 --> 02:54:48,880
Speaker 1: You might have had needed some self of water. Like yeah,

3094
02:54:56,000 --> 02:54:58,440
Speaker 1: I love saying I'm suggesting that right now. I'm not

3095
02:54:58,640 --> 02:55:01,520
Speaker 1: suggested that I love you, Grace, and I really respect you.

3096
02:55:01,560 --> 02:55:04,160
Speaker 1: I should have gone really really do. But I'm just saying,

3097
02:55:04,400 --> 02:55:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm just yeah, maybe another light not in this one.

3098
02:55:11,160 --> 02:55:14,840
Speaker 1: You know, there's two things I didn't understand with drinking.

3099
02:55:15,879 --> 02:55:18,960
Speaker 1: Why people wanted their liquor to taste good. No, it

3100
02:55:19,040 --> 02:55:21,640
Speaker 1: never tastes good. But that's what the mixing, that's what

3101
02:55:21,760 --> 02:55:25,160
Speaker 1: the mixed drinks is for. You go to you go

3102
02:55:25,280 --> 02:55:27,080
Speaker 1: to a bar and they put he's right, they put

3103
02:55:27,160 --> 02:55:28,880
Speaker 1: this much right. But I never then they put a

3104
02:55:28,920 --> 02:55:30,640
Speaker 1: bunch of ship in to try and make it taste better.

3105
02:55:30,640 --> 02:55:32,920
Speaker 1: I always tell people it never tastes good. It feels

3106
02:55:33,000 --> 02:55:35,680
Speaker 1: good the first one. Yeah, it's like it's like you

3107
02:55:35,760 --> 02:55:43,120
Speaker 1: can't right. So I'm on my six years about to

3108
02:55:43,120 --> 02:55:49,800
Speaker 1: be so why didn't I didn't understand why people wanted

3109
02:55:49,840 --> 02:55:51,760
Speaker 1: it to taste good. And I didn't understand why people

3110
02:55:51,800 --> 02:55:54,320
Speaker 1: would just go have a couple of drinks. If you're

3111
02:55:54,320 --> 02:55:56,200
Speaker 1: not gonna get sucked up what you're drinking for, I'm

3112
02:55:56,240 --> 02:55:57,760
Speaker 1: not I'm not gonna lie. That's what I do know.

3113
02:55:57,879 --> 02:56:01,520
Speaker 1: You drink to get sucked up. That's all right. What's

3114
02:56:02,200 --> 02:56:05,840
Speaker 1: what's do you? So? It's I see you cut it

3115
02:56:05,920 --> 02:56:08,920
Speaker 1: off at one point, I see you feel yourself. But

3116
02:56:09,000 --> 02:56:12,760
Speaker 1: then I see yeah, I see like getting enough an

3117
02:56:12,760 --> 02:56:15,120
Speaker 1: you way. But then I also see you tell people

3118
02:56:15,480 --> 02:56:26,040
Speaker 1: you want to him also ready to people just walks

3119
02:56:26,080 --> 02:56:30,160
Speaker 1: through and you said people fuck you. I'm like, yeah,

3120
02:56:30,520 --> 02:56:36,800
Speaker 1: what's going on? You're like, fuck you, Pitt bouck you.

3121
02:56:38,480 --> 02:56:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, why am I here? Why did you invite

3122
02:56:43,000 --> 02:56:45,920
Speaker 1: me out to the ton of the Sun. And everyone

3123
02:56:46,040 --> 02:56:50,800
Speaker 1: knows I'm not lying, just saying you understand that you

3124
02:56:50,959 --> 02:56:55,960
Speaker 1: gotta be very under the water. I know that that's

3125
02:56:56,000 --> 02:56:59,640
Speaker 1: a sun. Let me you haven't tell you. Let me

3126
02:56:59,680 --> 02:57:02,920
Speaker 1: just say went out on something. That is right, guys

3127
02:57:02,920 --> 02:57:08,600
Speaker 1: of asshole man when you lock thing though, right, there's

3128
02:57:08,640 --> 02:57:13,480
Speaker 1: like different levels of clubs. They got the clubs where

3129
02:57:14,000 --> 02:57:17,720
Speaker 1: it's like everybody go to, like then there's the clubs

3130
02:57:17,760 --> 02:57:23,160
Speaker 1: where everybody can go to. Okay, So I mean on

3131
02:57:23,360 --> 02:57:36,320
Speaker 1: the age over age midle a, no age. So you

3132
02:57:36,440 --> 02:57:39,760
Speaker 1: go and you go to the joint and I walk

3133
02:57:39,879 --> 02:57:47,200
Speaker 1: in it like the context that tell us thing that

3134
02:57:47,440 --> 02:57:53,160
Speaker 1: the DJ said, get what I'm saying, What did that mean?

3135
02:57:53,520 --> 02:58:02,640
Speaker 1: Take off your story. I'm from New York City, wants

3136
02:58:02,640 --> 02:58:07,200
Speaker 1: to find where am I. I don't know that he

3137
02:58:07,360 --> 02:58:09,560
Speaker 1: was in the Miami for a couple of years already. No,

3138
02:58:09,720 --> 02:58:11,960
Speaker 1: this is this is kind of like my first night.

3139
02:58:14,840 --> 02:58:17,520
Speaker 1: Get that a lot. I remember that ship for the

3140
02:58:17,600 --> 02:58:21,160
Speaker 1: rest of my lady. Get down that lot said that

3141
02:58:21,240 --> 02:58:26,680
Speaker 1: in the said Spanish is this I did learn that's

3142
02:58:26,720 --> 02:58:31,720
Speaker 1: man and then people who just walked through. But you

3143
02:58:31,760 --> 02:58:34,160
Speaker 1: know there's backstory to that. I don't know the backstory.

3144
02:58:36,959 --> 02:58:39,720
Speaker 1: This is my story. This is my story. He pleas

3145
02:58:39,800 --> 02:58:44,240
Speaker 1: letting me my story or so I don't know the backstory.

3146
02:58:44,360 --> 02:58:48,200
Speaker 1: I listen to a little backstory. All I know is

3147
02:58:48,280 --> 02:58:56,720
Speaker 1: he walked through and he did not say hot, yeah yeah,

3148
02:58:56,840 --> 02:59:03,040
Speaker 1: and took a couple of more get and the thing

3149
02:59:03,360 --> 02:59:07,320
Speaker 1: walked over and saying I'm gonna fuck you up right

3150
02:59:07,560 --> 02:59:12,640
Speaker 1: now that the security is teach the chef, he's a chef.

3151
02:59:14,080 --> 02:59:21,080
Speaker 1: It was purple no, but teas like, yeah, what are

3152
02:59:21,120 --> 02:59:24,360
Speaker 1: you doing the family bro? No, Beca's hound drunk you

3153
02:59:24,480 --> 02:59:30,560
Speaker 1: word teachers like please, here's no one did not see

3154
02:59:31,480 --> 02:59:38,720
Speaker 1: the fucking what would you drinking? But that's not happened,

3155
02:59:43,480 --> 02:59:48,680
Speaker 1: not so it's not exactly what happened. Like if you're

3156
02:59:48,879 --> 02:59:56,000
Speaker 1: supressionally making true this my story. What was saying a

3157
02:59:56,080 --> 03:00:03,600
Speaker 1: lot of people like put it in here. You know what,

3158
03:00:03,720 --> 03:00:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna agree with that. I got a friend of

3159
03:00:06,320 --> 03:00:12,360
Speaker 1: your version of its funny. That's funny. But but he

3160
03:00:13,360 --> 03:00:16,680
Speaker 1: but did you does your virgen contain I'm gonna fuck you?

3161
03:00:16,920 --> 03:00:30,880
Speaker 1: Want I don't know what. Let's let's change whatever the

3162
03:00:30,959 --> 03:00:33,680
Speaker 1: reason why I don't know you. That's not what this is.

3163
03:00:34,200 --> 03:00:37,480
Speaker 1: This is a supportive movie. When you see Royce Ords

3164
03:00:37,560 --> 03:00:40,240
Speaker 1: moving this interview, Rys like, man, I love drink chat

3165
03:00:40,560 --> 03:00:43,840
Speaker 1: drink chats me up. They do whatever, But there's a

3166
03:00:43,920 --> 03:00:48,600
Speaker 1: couple of clips where we we weren't funny, and that's

3167
03:00:48,640 --> 03:00:52,400
Speaker 1: what the the fucking whole audience looks at. So people

3168
03:00:52,640 --> 03:00:55,320
Speaker 1: think they're like yo. But the thing about it is,

3169
03:00:55,440 --> 03:00:57,480
Speaker 1: it's something that I just told somebody the other day

3170
03:00:58,320 --> 03:01:02,959
Speaker 1: is don't this for the two percent of what's wrong?

3171
03:01:03,760 --> 03:01:09,000
Speaker 1: Pick me up for the ninety eight percent for what's right. Like,

3172
03:01:09,120 --> 03:01:12,800
Speaker 1: if I'm doing something ninety eight percent that's right and

3173
03:01:12,879 --> 03:01:15,520
Speaker 1: it's only two percent that's wrong. How dare you call

3174
03:01:15,600 --> 03:01:19,040
Speaker 1: me about the two percent? Why not call me and

3175
03:01:19,160 --> 03:01:23,920
Speaker 1: say that nine percent you're kicking out its greg. They

3176
03:01:24,000 --> 03:01:28,080
Speaker 1: got the whole hood happy, you know. But the person

3177
03:01:28,200 --> 03:01:32,240
Speaker 1: called me about the two percent and they made me

3178
03:01:32,520 --> 03:01:35,480
Speaker 1: just think of that made me just express that. So

3179
03:01:35,800 --> 03:01:38,200
Speaker 1: the thing about hip hop is hip hop. We don't

3180
03:01:38,240 --> 03:01:41,560
Speaker 1: give our people they flowers while they can smell them,

3181
03:01:42,200 --> 03:01:45,400
Speaker 1: They trees while they can hell them, They thoughts what

3182
03:01:45,560 --> 03:01:48,640
Speaker 1: they can think of them, and they drinks while they

3183
03:01:48,720 --> 03:01:53,120
Speaker 1: can drink them. And the thing is, you know, God

3184
03:01:53,200 --> 03:01:57,920
Speaker 1: bless the dead, Craig mac A, love Buck, Stark Sky,

3185
03:01:58,080 --> 03:02:00,680
Speaker 1: all these people. These people passed away, and now people

3186
03:02:00,720 --> 03:02:03,120
Speaker 1: want to post pictures of the that's not what we

3187
03:02:03,200 --> 03:02:05,480
Speaker 1: want to do and drink chance. We want to post

3188
03:02:05,560 --> 03:02:09,240
Speaker 1: pictures of you. Why are you fucking alive? We want

3189
03:02:09,280 --> 03:02:11,280
Speaker 1: to pick you up? Why are you fucking a lie?

3190
03:02:12,920 --> 03:02:15,600
Speaker 1: And most of the people that we interview don't even

3191
03:02:15,720 --> 03:02:19,720
Speaker 1: really have something going on but to us, and it's you,

3192
03:02:20,160 --> 03:02:26,680
Speaker 1: what you did, it's bigger. You're on And so it

3193
03:02:26,840 --> 03:02:30,000
Speaker 1: hurts me sometimes when I see people and I tell them,

3194
03:02:30,040 --> 03:02:31,960
Speaker 1: I said, Yo, listen, I see you about to drop

3195
03:02:32,040 --> 03:02:36,880
Speaker 1: the album. Come funk with us, come see us. They're

3196
03:02:36,920 --> 03:02:39,480
Speaker 1: listen to their record label and they'll go see such

3197
03:02:39,560 --> 03:02:42,720
Speaker 1: and such or such and such. And it doesn't matter

3198
03:02:42,840 --> 03:02:45,360
Speaker 1: because I think about this. We don't need you first,

3199
03:02:46,240 --> 03:02:49,200
Speaker 1: We need you when you're right. You know what I'm saying.

3200
03:02:49,600 --> 03:02:51,959
Speaker 1: But the thing is, it makes me know what level

3201
03:02:52,160 --> 03:02:56,039
Speaker 1: the artist is on, what we're gonna do, what's what's

3202
03:02:56,040 --> 03:03:05,440
Speaker 1: your be a beast? Future future future legend, future legend

3203
03:03:06,800 --> 03:03:09,000
Speaker 1: always say when I when I when when people bring

3204
03:03:09,080 --> 03:03:11,720
Speaker 1: tank up, I always say that nigger, he punches with conviction.

3205
03:03:12,600 --> 03:03:14,760
Speaker 1: He throws every punch like you're trying to kill you.

3206
03:03:16,120 --> 03:03:17,960
Speaker 1: I love those kind of fighters. That's that fire I'm

3207
03:03:18,000 --> 03:03:19,840
Speaker 1: talking about. They can't be taught I take out that

3208
03:03:19,959 --> 03:03:24,760
Speaker 1: fire Wilder. Yeah, so one of the same hands down

3209
03:03:24,840 --> 03:03:28,320
Speaker 1: Deonte Wilder is taking out Anthony Joshua and that is there. Well,

3210
03:03:28,320 --> 03:03:30,360
Speaker 1: you can never say a hundred percent hands down in

3211
03:03:30,400 --> 03:03:32,840
Speaker 1: the heavyweight division, and the heavyweight division is you know,

3212
03:03:33,000 --> 03:03:36,840
Speaker 1: it's taking your back, but taking your back voice. I

3213
03:03:36,879 --> 03:03:39,959
Speaker 1: would say, put your money on Deonte okay, but now

3214
03:03:40,280 --> 03:03:42,520
Speaker 1: your money what would you what would you bet? I'm

3215
03:03:42,520 --> 03:03:44,800
Speaker 1: putting my money on Deontae. If I'm betting, all right,

3216
03:03:45,080 --> 03:03:47,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking about one to ten, how much money would

3217
03:03:47,640 --> 03:03:50,480
Speaker 1: you put one in ten on the I put I'll

3218
03:03:50,480 --> 03:03:54,320
Speaker 1: say ten. I'm confident. I'm confident that he was. He

3219
03:03:54,440 --> 03:03:57,000
Speaker 1: just got he got more fire, man, he got more fire.

3220
03:03:58,160 --> 03:04:00,360
Speaker 1: What is this fight is supposed to take place June job?

3221
03:04:00,560 --> 03:04:04,000
Speaker 1: They still haven't they have enough. They ain't signed on

3222
03:04:04,080 --> 03:04:13,480
Speaker 1: the fight each other yet. Huh. Well, listen, man, Royce,

3223
03:04:14,080 --> 03:04:16,360
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming down, sit down,

3224
03:04:17,000 --> 03:04:19,360
Speaker 1: and you know, you know, for for me, I want

3225
03:04:19,360 --> 03:04:25,080
Speaker 1: to salute you because um, I forget who are your

3226
03:04:25,120 --> 03:04:27,720
Speaker 1: people's but I wanted to ask them and say, yo,

3227
03:04:27,800 --> 03:04:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, should we stop drinking or should we stop smoking?

3228
03:04:33,080 --> 03:04:35,240
Speaker 1: Or some type of ship and there was like, race

3229
03:04:35,360 --> 03:04:38,160
Speaker 1: is good. They can sit right to fucking there and

3230
03:04:38,240 --> 03:04:41,000
Speaker 1: y'all can do whatever. So before we get up out

3231
03:04:41,040 --> 03:04:44,560
Speaker 1: of here, how did you develop that type of tolerance

3232
03:04:44,640 --> 03:04:48,440
Speaker 1: where you could actually, you know, sit around people that's

3233
03:04:48,480 --> 03:04:52,320
Speaker 1: indulging and you're not indulged. Yeah, you just it's it's sobriety.

3234
03:04:52,360 --> 03:04:54,680
Speaker 1: One of the things with sobriety is just about learning yourself,

3235
03:04:55,520 --> 03:04:58,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like learning exactly what you

3236
03:04:58,440 --> 03:05:00,480
Speaker 1: can can't stand. Like when I first got sober, I

3237
03:05:00,520 --> 03:05:02,120
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna have to be exactly like how

3238
03:05:02,240 --> 03:05:05,119
Speaker 1: him do his ship, Like it ain't nobody around him

3239
03:05:05,200 --> 03:05:08,200
Speaker 1: drinking and smoking. Like yeah, you kind of not saying

3240
03:05:08,240 --> 03:05:12,640
Speaker 1: that he's isolating himself, but we don't go around him drinking,

3241
03:05:12,760 --> 03:05:13,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I try. I was

3242
03:05:14,000 --> 03:05:16,160
Speaker 1: traveling with him while I was still drinking, and I

3243
03:05:16,320 --> 03:05:19,480
Speaker 1: never drink around him, you know. So like when I

3244
03:05:19,720 --> 03:05:22,040
Speaker 1: got sober and I went around Slaughterhouse, they did the

3245
03:05:22,120 --> 03:05:25,200
Speaker 1: same thing. But I'm sober, my nigga, so I could

3246
03:05:25,240 --> 03:05:27,880
Speaker 1: tell when you're hiding drinks, hiding the bottle, and you

3247
03:05:27,920 --> 03:05:29,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, when y'all got drinks, But y'all

3248
03:05:29,560 --> 03:05:31,600
Speaker 1: just don't want me to see it. If anything, that

3249
03:05:31,600 --> 03:05:33,400
Speaker 1: ship makes me feel more weird about it. You know

3250
03:05:33,440 --> 03:05:35,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because you reminded me that I'm the

3251
03:05:35,480 --> 03:05:37,720
Speaker 1: motherfucker who's different from everybody. You know what I'm saying,

3252
03:05:37,800 --> 03:05:40,600
Speaker 1: Like it makes me feel better when everybody is just themselves.

3253
03:05:41,640 --> 03:05:44,400
Speaker 1: Do what works. You're mentally strong to be a yeah,

3254
03:05:44,400 --> 03:05:45,960
Speaker 1: because if you if we're working with each other and

3255
03:05:46,040 --> 03:05:47,920
Speaker 1: we're doing some ship, I want you to be in

3256
03:05:48,080 --> 03:05:50,280
Speaker 1: your element. You let me get my element, and I

3257
03:05:50,360 --> 03:05:52,360
Speaker 1: want you to be a young man saying with the

3258
03:05:52,400 --> 03:05:54,760
Speaker 1: interviews and ship, man, if this is what y'all doing here,

3259
03:05:54,840 --> 03:05:56,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like I talk to people

3260
03:05:56,480 --> 03:05:58,200
Speaker 1: and tell them I'm coming, I'm excited. I'm like, yo,

3261
03:05:58,240 --> 03:06:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm about to go funk with Nori. You know, how

3262
03:06:00,360 --> 03:06:02,440
Speaker 1: can you do that? But you don't drink? Don't mean

3263
03:06:02,480 --> 03:06:06,600
Speaker 1: I gotta drink. I think I personally text you and

3264
03:06:06,680 --> 03:06:09,200
Speaker 1: told you that, like it please, that's not what we do,

3265
03:06:09,440 --> 03:06:11,720
Speaker 1: like you know, like the thing is, the thing is,

3266
03:06:12,200 --> 03:06:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We want to praise our artist, you know

3267
03:06:15,200 --> 03:06:19,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Or so many people they want to

3268
03:06:19,959 --> 03:06:22,680
Speaker 1: wait for you to die. You'd be hurt or you

3269
03:06:22,840 --> 03:06:25,840
Speaker 1: to go through something tragic for people to actually be like,

3270
03:06:25,920 --> 03:06:29,320
Speaker 1: your voice is dope. Yeah, and that's why I was

3271
03:06:29,400 --> 03:06:33,680
Speaker 1: so I was so happy when you, um he said

3272
03:06:33,720 --> 03:06:36,080
Speaker 1: something about Fat Joe recently. He was like, how long

3273
03:06:36,160 --> 03:06:39,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep continuing to ignore that Fat Joe was

3274
03:06:39,760 --> 03:06:42,520
Speaker 1: just out here relevant? And then Fat Joe came and

3275
03:06:43,000 --> 03:06:46,440
Speaker 1: he and he said, yo, yo, this is a lyrical giant.

3276
03:06:46,760 --> 03:06:49,199
Speaker 1: I forget what he said. You know, I'm paraphrasing, of course,

3277
03:06:49,600 --> 03:06:51,840
Speaker 1: but he backed you up back, and I was just like,

3278
03:06:52,360 --> 03:06:54,480
Speaker 1: this is what hip hop is supposed to be. This

3279
03:06:54,640 --> 03:06:56,680
Speaker 1: is exactly what it's supposed to be. The thing is,

3280
03:06:57,080 --> 03:06:59,760
Speaker 1: we're so competitive with each other, and we forgot to

3281
03:06:59,800 --> 03:07:02,240
Speaker 1: beg the people that were actually fans up. Yeah, you

3282
03:07:02,280 --> 03:07:05,640
Speaker 1: say something good about somebody, you automatically we don't want that.

3283
03:07:05,800 --> 03:07:09,640
Speaker 1: That's that's what drink chances. That's what drink chance is established.

3284
03:07:09,680 --> 03:07:12,920
Speaker 1: It's taking away that dick right up. Like, I have

3285
03:07:13,160 --> 03:07:16,840
Speaker 1: no problem with telling you boys, I think you're a

3286
03:07:16,920 --> 03:07:22,040
Speaker 1: lyrical giant. I think that you know, aside from from

3287
03:07:22,280 --> 03:07:26,160
Speaker 1: from from from you know, like the actual success and

3288
03:07:26,240 --> 03:07:29,039
Speaker 1: the money and there's no dispects all up. But you're

3289
03:07:29,160 --> 03:07:32,720
Speaker 1: up there with M and Jay and you're lyrically you

3290
03:07:33,240 --> 03:07:35,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You're up there with them. And

3291
03:07:35,320 --> 03:07:38,040
Speaker 1: the thing about it is that takes nothing away from

3292
03:07:38,080 --> 03:07:43,000
Speaker 1: me from begging you up. So fucking what, Yeah, you

3293
03:07:43,360 --> 03:07:46,200
Speaker 1: you deserve it, you know what I'm saying. You deserve it.

3294
03:07:46,320 --> 03:07:49,000
Speaker 1: And the thing about hip hop is so many people

3295
03:07:49,040 --> 03:07:51,680
Speaker 1: they don't give a funk about saying people people in

3296
03:07:51,760 --> 03:07:55,040
Speaker 1: hipop aren't comfortable enough in their skin, you know what

3297
03:07:55,080 --> 03:07:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And it's like everything is contingent upon other

3298
03:07:58,120 --> 03:08:01,400
Speaker 1: people's opinion of you. So you put that being worried

3299
03:08:01,400 --> 03:08:04,280
Speaker 1: about them and seeking validation from those people. You put

3300
03:08:04,360 --> 03:08:08,160
Speaker 1: that ahead of just being a good, genuine person, you

3301
03:08:08,200 --> 03:08:10,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And it takes the people with respect,

3302
03:08:10,280 --> 03:08:12,480
Speaker 1: like how you got you? You can take the steps

3303
03:08:12,920 --> 03:08:15,800
Speaker 1: forward and big people up because they're not gonna come

3304
03:08:15,840 --> 03:08:18,240
Speaker 1: at you a certain way. You already developed a certain respect,

3305
03:08:18,720 --> 03:08:20,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And it's the same here

3306
03:08:20,120 --> 03:08:21,960
Speaker 1: when it comes to lyricism. I feel like I can

3307
03:08:22,480 --> 03:08:26,920
Speaker 1: compliment anybody because I've already established myself as respected as

3308
03:08:26,959 --> 03:08:29,680
Speaker 1: a lyricist. So when they hear it coming from somebody

3309
03:08:29,760 --> 03:08:32,160
Speaker 1: like me, they look at it different. That's why I

3310
03:08:32,200 --> 03:08:34,600
Speaker 1: said what I said about Fat Rio, you know what

3311
03:08:34,600 --> 03:08:39,840
Speaker 1: I mean, Like his longevity is inspiring to me. Man,

3312
03:08:40,240 --> 03:08:43,000
Speaker 1: he's like one of my He's like one of my idols.

3313
03:08:43,200 --> 03:08:47,280
Speaker 1: I had conversations. I had conversations on the phone with people.

3314
03:08:47,600 --> 03:08:50,119
Speaker 1: I had conversations on the phone with Keeno about industry

3315
03:08:50,160 --> 03:08:52,880
Speaker 1: ship and there's certain things that I'm not supposed to

3316
03:08:52,920 --> 03:08:56,160
Speaker 1: be able to accomplish in my age statistically and this

3317
03:08:56,320 --> 03:08:58,760
Speaker 1: music ship, and then you turn around and you see

3318
03:08:58,800 --> 03:09:02,840
Speaker 1: Fat Joe do it. There's always an exception to the rule. Always.

3319
03:09:02,959 --> 03:09:06,200
Speaker 1: I think Dream Champs is that examples. No, he's right though,

3320
03:09:06,280 --> 03:09:10,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's all your boat, right right, yeah, proposed

3321
03:09:10,080 --> 03:09:12,160
Speaker 1: to the same thing. So seeing this show, to seeing

3322
03:09:12,160 --> 03:09:13,760
Speaker 1: this show pop off of you and ship like that,

3323
03:09:13,879 --> 03:09:16,920
Speaker 1: that's equivalent to Fatrow coming with lean back, right. It's

3324
03:09:16,959 --> 03:09:19,560
Speaker 1: like it's incredible because it's not. It's not supposed to

3325
03:09:19,640 --> 03:09:23,240
Speaker 1: happen if you ask the critics and the thing about

3326
03:09:23,280 --> 03:09:26,960
Speaker 1: our our shows. So sorry, um think about our show.

3327
03:09:27,080 --> 03:09:29,920
Speaker 1: It should be a cheat cold for the people whose season,

3328
03:09:30,480 --> 03:09:34,200
Speaker 1: meaning the people that like everybody yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

3329
03:09:34,240 --> 03:09:40,440
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah yah I don't I don't relax, I

3330
03:09:40,480 --> 03:09:44,440
Speaker 1: don't listen. I don't want to make excuses like we're

3331
03:09:44,600 --> 03:09:46,800
Speaker 1: here for the people who have been here ten years

3332
03:09:46,840 --> 03:09:49,480
Speaker 1: and more, who put their grind in. So now, if

3333
03:09:49,480 --> 03:09:51,920
Speaker 1: you want to promote your little sisters, you know what

3334
03:09:51,959 --> 03:09:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying, uh single, and you want to come on

3335
03:09:54,560 --> 03:09:57,600
Speaker 1: here and you want to you open up if you

3336
03:09:57,640 --> 03:10:05,800
Speaker 1: want to promote your gator. They just started rapping. Yeah

3337
03:10:05,840 --> 03:10:10,520
Speaker 1: it's alligator. Got alligator. I'm just saying, I'm just making

3338
03:10:10,560 --> 03:10:13,280
Speaker 1: it up right now. You gotta alligator and you want

3339
03:10:13,320 --> 03:10:16,160
Speaker 1: to because this this shouldn't be the cheat cold for

3340
03:10:16,320 --> 03:10:20,400
Speaker 1: niggas that got ten and twelve and fifteen years and

3341
03:10:20,480 --> 03:10:23,040
Speaker 1: more in this game, because you know what, you have

3342
03:10:23,240 --> 03:10:25,760
Speaker 1: the regular radio station when you're a new guy. You

3343
03:10:25,840 --> 03:10:28,480
Speaker 1: have the regular SoundCloud when you're a new guy. But

3344
03:10:28,600 --> 03:10:31,880
Speaker 1: this should be a platform when you seasoned. You know

3345
03:10:31,959 --> 03:10:35,200
Speaker 1: what season me? Season me? These motherfucker's seizes you and

3346
03:10:35,240 --> 03:10:37,680
Speaker 1: then put you in the frigerator. Nigga, now lets you

3347
03:10:37,879 --> 03:10:42,640
Speaker 1: back overnight. I got that. And then they take your

3348
03:10:42,720 --> 03:10:47,480
Speaker 1: monkey ass out and then they fry you that season

3349
03:10:47,800 --> 03:10:51,360
Speaker 1: that means you have to stay in the frigerator. Colds

3350
03:10:53,120 --> 03:10:54,920
Speaker 1: for a certain amount of time. I just want to sit.

3351
03:10:55,160 --> 03:11:00,040
Speaker 1: This is the movie. Sorry, movie, but this is what

3352
03:11:00,080 --> 03:11:02,160
Speaker 1: do you mean when you say season in the hip hop?

3353
03:11:02,480 --> 03:11:06,480
Speaker 1: You had to go through a certain freezer with the

3354
03:11:06,600 --> 03:11:09,879
Speaker 1: season and knowing you and you can't even get frozen,

3355
03:11:10,400 --> 03:11:16,920
Speaker 1: You're not season. This is real. You gotta go through

3356
03:11:17,000 --> 03:11:19,680
Speaker 1: this in the hip hop and then after you come

3357
03:11:19,720 --> 03:11:22,560
Speaker 1: through that. This is the reason why I always pushed

3358
03:11:22,560 --> 03:11:25,960
Speaker 1: the hip hop union. It's because after you go through

3359
03:11:26,040 --> 03:11:29,680
Speaker 1: that freezing and after you wake up that next day

3360
03:11:29,720 --> 03:11:32,560
Speaker 1: and they put you in the oven hip hop to

3361
03:11:32,680 --> 03:11:34,320
Speaker 1: take care of you for the rest of your life.

3362
03:11:35,120 --> 03:11:37,600
Speaker 1: And that's the thing about it. The thing about it,

3363
03:11:37,720 --> 03:11:40,640
Speaker 1: there's so many people who gave a blood, sweat and tears.

3364
03:11:40,920 --> 03:11:44,320
Speaker 1: They did it, They went platinum, and they fucking homeless

3365
03:11:44,440 --> 03:11:47,800
Speaker 1: right now. They're working in McQuary's and mccary's doesn't even

3366
03:11:47,920 --> 03:11:51,840
Speaker 1: exist no more. So that lets you know where they're working.

3367
03:11:53,959 --> 03:11:57,640
Speaker 1: They're working in wal Mark. This is real. Ship. If

3368
03:11:57,720 --> 03:12:00,520
Speaker 1: you gave ten years and your your life to hip

3369
03:12:00,560 --> 03:12:05,160
Speaker 1: hop and you really came out there, you you really worked.

3370
03:12:05,959 --> 03:12:09,959
Speaker 1: Our union should it should be a union in places

3371
03:12:10,520 --> 03:12:14,480
Speaker 1: that at least that at least helps the only other

3372
03:12:14,760 --> 03:12:19,440
Speaker 1: corporation in the world that doesn't have a union is boxing,

3373
03:12:20,000 --> 03:12:22,560
Speaker 1: and boxing is the most brutal sport in the world.

3374
03:12:22,760 --> 03:12:27,920
Speaker 1: Is this what we're saying about an entertainment company? This

3375
03:12:28,360 --> 03:12:31,320
Speaker 1: entertainment we ain't beating each other up. I mean, we

3376
03:12:31,400 --> 03:12:33,000
Speaker 1: beat each other up because that's what we choose to.

3377
03:12:33,400 --> 03:12:36,040
Speaker 1: But this should be a hip hop So I am

3378
03:12:36,160 --> 03:12:40,160
Speaker 1: gonna keep continuing doing this podcast and keep it there

3379
03:12:40,320 --> 03:12:43,560
Speaker 1: until we find because U t A and forget who

3380
03:12:43,640 --> 03:12:45,640
Speaker 1: else who reached out to us to help us with

3381
03:12:45,760 --> 03:12:48,959
Speaker 1: this hip hop union, A couple of people, but until

3382
03:12:49,040 --> 03:12:51,600
Speaker 1: we actually get this because I'm God bless you. I

3383
03:12:51,600 --> 03:12:55,119
Speaker 1: don't ever wanna you know, you know, I'm not gonna

3384
03:12:55,120 --> 03:12:57,400
Speaker 1: work blessing to day. But that's all something happens to

3385
03:12:57,400 --> 03:13:03,000
Speaker 1: you tomorrow. Royce. You went to your level where you

3386
03:13:03,040 --> 03:13:04,879
Speaker 1: had to get sober and you had to do something

3387
03:13:05,520 --> 03:13:08,400
Speaker 1: why And then you know what happens is the whole

3388
03:13:08,440 --> 03:13:12,520
Speaker 1: world says, well, M should have stepped up, a right nigga.

3389
03:13:12,600 --> 03:13:15,200
Speaker 1: Let me, let me let me just say something. Let

3390
03:13:15,240 --> 03:13:18,640
Speaker 1: me be fair about this. Yeah, M should step up,

3391
03:13:19,440 --> 03:13:21,640
Speaker 1: but you know who should step up first? Hip hop?

3392
03:13:22,800 --> 03:13:28,080
Speaker 1: The community. You gave your blood sweating tears to us.

3393
03:13:29,120 --> 03:13:31,120
Speaker 1: It should be like a gil like. It should be

3394
03:13:31,200 --> 03:13:34,400
Speaker 1: like any time any nigger in our community he get

3395
03:13:34,520 --> 03:13:38,680
Speaker 1: locked up, and it ain't right. It ain't murder, it ain't,

3396
03:13:39,080 --> 03:13:42,640
Speaker 1: it ain't, it ain't something. It's all a crime that

3397
03:13:42,760 --> 03:13:45,480
Speaker 1: we can respect. He was selling. We get that, nigga.

3398
03:13:47,080 --> 03:13:49,280
Speaker 1: It's a crime that we can respect. Let's get him.

3399
03:13:50,480 --> 03:13:53,119
Speaker 1: But if you was to get sick right now, poplex

3400
03:13:53,280 --> 03:13:57,560
Speaker 1: so sorry, there wouldn't be nothing to come to you

3401
03:13:57,800 --> 03:14:02,040
Speaker 1: but them but a Paul hos of But your own people,

3402
03:14:03,000 --> 03:14:05,760
Speaker 1: and that's kind of not their responsibility. After you give

3403
03:14:05,879 --> 03:14:09,280
Speaker 1: us seventeen years of your life. Yeah, I'll see what

3404
03:14:09,320 --> 03:14:12,160
Speaker 1: you're saying. You understand what I'm saying. I think you

3405
03:14:12,520 --> 03:14:15,360
Speaker 1: give us seventeen years of your life. It should be

3406
03:14:15,560 --> 03:14:18,960
Speaker 1: a union that just says, oh Royce is sick, or

3407
03:14:19,040 --> 03:14:21,440
Speaker 1: shut the funk up, everybody, move the fun back, my nigga.

3408
03:14:21,440 --> 03:14:25,600
Speaker 1: When I got sober, I didn't even have health insurance insurance.

3409
03:14:27,040 --> 03:14:30,240
Speaker 1: It's something new to people. I didn't even I didn't

3410
03:14:30,240 --> 03:14:32,760
Speaker 1: even have health insurance. I had a ton of money

3411
03:14:33,160 --> 03:14:35,879
Speaker 1: or no health insurance. That's just that's the nice thing

3412
03:14:35,959 --> 03:14:38,640
Speaker 1: we think about. It's like, but it's the first thing

3413
03:14:38,680 --> 03:14:42,560
Speaker 1: that poplishes is like it's a big business and it's

3414
03:14:42,600 --> 03:14:44,280
Speaker 1: like a lot of money to be made, but it's

3415
03:14:44,360 --> 03:14:46,840
Speaker 1: like you get no information when you come into this ship.

3416
03:14:47,480 --> 03:14:50,199
Speaker 1: Everything you learn is based off of making mistakes. Unless

3417
03:14:50,240 --> 03:14:53,000
Speaker 1: you blessed enough to be around somebody you can kind

3418
03:14:53,040 --> 03:14:54,520
Speaker 1: of like point you in the right direction. But you

3419
03:14:54,680 --> 03:14:58,640
Speaker 1: learn everything off of error, and statistically most people don't

3420
03:14:58,640 --> 03:15:03,840
Speaker 1: survive those errors. Damn. So it's not hip hop is

3421
03:15:03,879 --> 03:15:05,440
Speaker 1: not set up for you to succeed, to set up

3422
03:15:05,480 --> 03:15:09,640
Speaker 1: for you to fail, for sure. Absolutely well, please don't

3423
03:15:09,640 --> 03:15:13,240
Speaker 1: say hip hop, say the business, the business entertainment, because

3424
03:15:13,600 --> 03:15:15,840
Speaker 1: hip hop it's made for you to be whoever the

3425
03:15:15,920 --> 03:15:17,280
Speaker 1: funk you want to be. You just gotta be who

3426
03:15:17,320 --> 03:15:19,840
Speaker 1: the fun you want to be there. But the business

3427
03:15:20,440 --> 03:15:28,360
Speaker 1: is definitely yeah, yeah, goddamn listen, I'm gonna stop up.

3428
03:15:28,959 --> 03:15:30,880
Speaker 1: We did the artists do they drop? So their own

3429
03:15:31,080 --> 03:15:34,000
Speaker 1: shout out to looks now that's right now and um

3430
03:15:34,200 --> 03:15:36,200
Speaker 1: yeah yeah I loves now. And then we'll do the

3431
03:15:36,280 --> 03:15:38,720
Speaker 1: picture together. Yeah, and the drop, let's do it. No, no,

3432
03:15:38,920 --> 03:15:40,960
Speaker 1: the drop, I want real start doing the artist by

3433
03:15:41,000 --> 03:16:05,680
Speaker 1: the s