1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to James Drivetime with John Osier Herson and Brian 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: sexty sixty Jangs Drivetime. It starts right now. Good morning, 3 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: and welcome to Jags Drive Time. The first of the 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: out of season. It's been off of about a month 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: and we're just getting cranked back up here as we 6 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: approached the start of the new league year, free agency, 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: the draft and everything that is the off season. I'm 8 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: Brian Sexton along with John Ozier and John. It's been 9 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: relatively quiet and before we jump into big things, it'll 10 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: probably stay relatively quiet. Yeah, I expect it will stay 11 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: quiet until well next week's combine and then as you 12 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: start approaching in March fifteenth of the league year, this 13 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: is probably the last super quiet Drive Time and then 14 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: as you approached mark fifteenth, which is free agency, you 15 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: will start hearing things ramp up and then away we go. 16 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: All right, let's jump into big things this morning. It 17 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: will start with R and R and that's Calvin Ridley 18 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: and reinstatement. Last week Wednesday, the fifteenth of February, was 19 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: the first day that he could apply for reinstatement. There's 20 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: no set date for what the announcement will be made 21 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: but all Jaguar's eyes are focused on the acquisition the 22 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: general manager Trent Bulky made at the trade deadline last fall. 23 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: We've been waiting to see when this might happen. Then 24 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: the obvious will be asked next week at the combine, 25 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: when and what can you expect to get from Calvin Ridley. 26 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: The Combine will give us those answers. And by the way, 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: the show will emanate with John and J P. Shadrick 28 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: from the Combine on Wednesday when Doug Peterson and Trent 29 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: Bulky are speaking. Next week. Big thing too, and this 30 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: is a big one for the Jaguars, and that is 31 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: restructure contracts in the salary cap. Now take center stage. 32 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: It's the nerd time, the egghead time, if you will, 33 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: of the football season. Then that's when numbers are crunched 34 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: and contracts are valued and decisions have to be made. 35 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: And we'll go over that in just a few moments. 36 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: There are some decisions the Jaguars can make. We'll give 37 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: you a couple of theoretical right now today. As it stands, 38 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: according to spot track, which is one of several contract 39 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: websites out there, the track NFL team web Team Salary Caps, 40 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: the Jaguars are roughly thirty two million dollars over and 41 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: all numbers that we share with you here today are 42 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: rough estimations. And finally, big thing three, This is a 43 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: really big one, and that is when the Jaguars restocked 44 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: the roster. They're not going to do it in March 45 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: like they've done in years passed around here through free agency. 46 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: It'll be the NFL Draft in April. And you can 47 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: be sure that's where trend Bulky and the college scouting 48 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: staff are really focused on using the draft. He said 49 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: it in his post season Draft dat Draft postseason news 50 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: comp Prince that this was going to be an important 51 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: transition for the franchise from one that uses free agency 52 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: to one that uses the draft. And those are big ideas, 53 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: big things, big topics as we work through the Jaguars 54 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: and the start of the new league year. And let's 55 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: go right to the restructuring side of a john, which 56 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: is the interesting part. Because the Jaguars are over the cap. 57 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: They've got to get by the fifteenth, by four o'clock 58 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: on the fifteenth, they've got to get under the salary cap. 59 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: They don't have to get a far piece under it, right, 60 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: but they've got to get under it. And so when 61 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: you look at guys like this, and here are four 62 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: players that I chose by their age, by their salary 63 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: camp number, and by their production last year. So Christian 64 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: Kirk and z A. Jones both had career years. Foyer 65 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: alukun right at nineteen million dollars is a huge cap figure, 66 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: and he led the league in tackles for the second 67 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: consecutive year, and then fully Foughtukasi did not have the 68 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: huge impact year, but big guys up front come at 69 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: a premium, and he's twelve point seven five cap number. 70 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: These are four guys that you could work with and extend, 71 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: and I think people might recall Jaguars and the Bengals 72 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: are the only two teams currently that don't have a 73 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: dollar pushed forward into the twenty twenty four or twenty 74 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: twenty five stalary cap. Basically, they pay it, they claim it, 75 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: they pay as they go. But that has to change. Yeah, 76 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: one thing before we get started on this. There's not 77 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: much to say about Calvin Ridley. He's the top one, right. 78 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: What I would say to people who are who are saying, 79 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: why haven't we heard any news on this? Reinstatements are 80 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: the one area where you rarely hear things until they 81 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: actually happen. Sometimes with news in the NFL, you hear 82 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: like sneak news, you hear, hey, I'm hearing from the 83 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: league office. It's not unusual that you're not hearing anything 84 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: on Calvin Ridley as there's not much more to say 85 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: about him. So I kind of wanted to get that 86 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: out of the way first. Well, let's just do one 87 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: thing real quick, and if we could get David Choe, 88 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: our producer director, to throw up the numbers in case 89 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: people are wondering why the Calvin Ridley acquisition is so interesting. 90 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: He has twenty eight touchdowns, and remember in twenty twenty 91 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: one he only played five games before he took that 92 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: break for mental health. He has twenty eight touchdowns in 93 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: forty nine career games played. He has twenty eight touchdowns 94 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: in thirty five starts. Yeah, so he's been hugely productive. 95 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: And in twenty twenty the last full season he played, 96 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: you can see what he did yea, and everyone knows 97 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: thirteen hundred yards and nine touchdowns would be a huge 98 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: increase for what Doug Peterson and Trevor Lawrence want to do. 99 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a fascinating thing that I think you 100 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: have to watch this with I'm gonna say skepticism, but 101 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: you have to watch him early next year because I 102 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: believe he'll be reinstated. Everybody does how much the layoff 103 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: has hurt. It is an extended layoff. I don't think 104 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: you can necessarily look at him as he's going to 105 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: step in and be a big time one immediately, but 106 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,239 Speaker 1: I think you can assume that he's going to help 107 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: this thing and give them elements. And if he is 108 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: that big time one boy wedden acquisition, well look. And 109 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: one more thing to say about this is that's why 110 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: I think folks are wondering will he be here when 111 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: the off season program begins in early April. Yeah, I 112 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: can't imagine he's not. I mean, because that gives him 113 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: a better chance to be more productive by the time 114 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: you get to September. Yeah, I can't imagine he won't be. 115 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: He's applied for reinstatement. And now this is all just 116 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: assuming logic comes into play, and oftentimes in the off 117 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: season it does. The Jaguars need to know and if 118 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: if you're going to reinstate Calvin Ridley, which they have 119 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: reportedly he's applied for it. From a league perspective, if 120 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: you're going to reinstate him, then you want to The 121 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: league likes success stories. If you're going to reinstate him, 122 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: you want to reinstate him before the off season program begins. 123 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: Because if you're going to reinstate and then you say, Okay, 124 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: he's ready come back, well be fair to him and 125 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: let him come back, give me a shot and have 126 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: as much success as possible. I can't imagine it not 127 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: playing out that way, Brian, all right, So now let's 128 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: go to a big thing too and restructure and put 129 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: back up those numbers. When you're looking at the production 130 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: that you had from Christian Kirk and Zay Jones in particular, 131 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: they both have big cap numbers. You both you expect 132 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: both of them will be a part of your program 133 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: going forward for several years. With Calvin Ridley, so there's 134 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: plenty of room there. There's room with Foya Loui Khan 135 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: and fully fought to Kassi. What's interesting is those are 136 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: about it from from total restructures, I guess you could 137 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: redo Cam Robinson. Well, you can also redo the guys 138 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: that are Ray Sewn Jenkins, Roy Robinson Harris, see not Agnete. 139 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: That's where I'm going with this, because there are some 140 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: guys that you may not be able to keep right right. 141 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: So if you take Ray Robertson Harris, who has an 142 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: eight million dollar cap figure right Jamal Agnew, I'm sorry, 143 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: Barge and Harris would save you eight million, This is 144 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: outright cut. This is not restructure. Agnew four and a half, 145 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: Jenkins six, Shack Griffin, who I think we all expect, 146 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: we'll give you thirteen. You could pick up the cap 147 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: room you need right there. That's thirty one and a half. 148 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: But the first three I believe you can also work 149 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: with their con totally can't, totally can. There's two ways 150 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: to go, I guess, is what I'm trying to say. 151 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: One is you could just massively cut and try to restock, 152 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: or you can restructure. There's two ways to do that. 153 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: One is with the guys that you know are going 154 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: to be here, and one are with guys that you'd 155 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: like to keep for a couple more years yet, and 156 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: I think the key is Christian and Zay to me 157 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: seem very logical in this, and we don't really know 158 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: for sure how Trent Backy thinks about this because most 159 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: gms don't really lay out their whole plan on this, 160 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: so we have to sort of assume where they're going 161 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: and sort of what his philosophy is. So it absolutely 162 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: stands reason some of that Christian Kirk you looked at 163 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: him this year, you can easily see him being what 164 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: I call a life or free agent, and many free 165 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: agents aren't. Many free agents are signed essentially now for 166 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: two years, and then with the option of being able 167 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: to let those guys go, they almost sign two year 168 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: deals and then fans get mad when they get released. 169 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: Oh they screwed up the cap. Well, it's not because 170 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: a lot of those guys were signed for two years. 171 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: Christian and Zay played like guys, like you say, long 172 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: term guys, So they are guys where you can all 173 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: of a sudden find some money push it out. Also 174 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: with those two guys, I was gonna say particularly Christian, 175 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: but really both of them, they gave no signs this 176 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: year of being take the money and run guys. You 177 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: don't want to extend guys who you think are near 178 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: the end or who aren't motivated. Both of those guys 179 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: want to be here, want to be part of it, 180 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: so they make so there's options restructure. Right, there's these 181 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: four guys and the other three we mentioned, Roy Robertson, 182 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: Harris Jamal Agnew and ray Sean Jenkins. Guys, we assume 183 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: you'd want to have around or there's restructure and release. Right, 184 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: let some guys go make room for other guys that 185 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: you want on the roster. That's the key conversation that 186 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: Balky and Doug Peterson and their stabs have either already 187 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: have or are in the middle of having right now. Yeah, 188 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: And I think realistically they've had these conversations since these 189 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: contracts were signed. Remember when they did the cat the 190 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: last two off seasons, Tim Watson, Trent Baky, they were 191 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: already looking at Okay, what are our scenarios if this 192 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: player plays well, If this player plays well, they do 193 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: it all the time. Production has to factor into it. 194 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: There's been I've got a lot of questions because there's 195 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: been so much talk about the cap and there's been 196 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: so much talk in the media and here about them 197 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: being up against the cap. Oh, why did they screw 198 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: this up? It's not even remotely screwed up. No, they're 199 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: in an excellent cap shape. Right, you can't compete in 200 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: this league anymore and not have a few quote cap issues. 201 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: You can't have a clean cap except in those couple 202 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: of years where you're trying to clean it so that 203 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: you can go unclean it, right, you know, so you can't. 204 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: This was in no way a screw up. This was 205 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: trying to get back to competitive and they did that 206 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: last season. I think it bears it bears saying here 207 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: that where roberts and Harris, Jamal agg Knew, Rayshawn Jenkins, 208 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: and to a degree, shot Griffin, but we'll leave him 209 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: out of this. But Roy Robertson, Harris, Jamal agg Knew, 210 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: and ray Shawn Jenkins were guys that when you signed 211 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: them in twenty twenty one, they were essentially two year 212 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: gap exactly right. But all three of them played so well, 213 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: especially down the stretch, for this football team. Now you 214 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: start thinking a little differently instead of releasing them and 215 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: picking up for these guys, it's almost twenty million dollars 216 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: if you release them. Now you start thinking about how 217 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: far out can we reasonably push the money so that 218 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: we still get production and we still have these guys 219 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: on the roster, but we don't overextend ourselves. They signed 220 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: pretty standard situations for their level of player coming in. 221 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: And when I say that, I don't mean to demean 222 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: them as players, but they were not the number one 223 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: guy at their position players when I signed with the Jags. 224 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: When you sign players, you expect to be starters and 225 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: expect to be good players. You do it for two 226 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: years and you and if you're Trent Ballky, you say 227 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: to yourself, I hope this guy's a problem for me 228 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: in two years. And those three guys are a lot 229 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: of credit to them. They played their way into being 230 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: problems for Rashn. Jenkins gave you two of the most 231 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: memorable plays in franchise history. And that's what you hope 232 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: for out of free agency. By the way, one quick thought, 233 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: and let's throw this up here real quick. It brings 234 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: us to a big thing three, which was restock the roster. 235 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: The last two drafts, you reasonably can pick out nine starters, right, 236 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: and that's what this team has to be focused on 237 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: doing at the end of April. In the draft, all 238 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: of those guys, without exception, you could say played an 239 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: important part in this season, some more than others, obviously, 240 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: but all of them were guys that you counted on 241 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: you got to do that again. We gotta have a 242 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: graphic that has another third of it next year with 243 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: three or four guys that restock this roster because you're 244 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: not going to do it through free agency, which Jaguars 245 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: fans this franchise has become accustomed to doing. That'll do 246 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: it for big things. When we come back, the Ozone 247 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: mail Bag joins us. Oh wait, he's already with us. 248 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:50,599 Speaker 1: I am the mail bag. We're back after this. This 249 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: brocas is friendly. Oh and welcome back to Jags Drive Time, 250 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: presented by Carshyield here on a Tuesday morning in February. 251 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: We'll be here on Tuesdays for most of the off season. 252 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: As I mentioned, next week, John will be at the 253 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: Combine in Indianapolis with J. P. Shadrick. This show, we'll 254 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: move to Wednesday because the head coach and the general 255 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: manager are both making their annual speaking presentation. What it 256 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: would Yeah, I think what's going on? I think I 257 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: hope Ridley's not as rusty as me. Doug and Trent, 258 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: I believe, talked Tuesday and they were kicking Drivetime. We 259 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: have to talk about the next day to Wednesday. But 260 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: whenever Doug and Trent talk, and I'm nine nine percent 261 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: sure it's Tuesday, around twelve thirty. Whenever they talk, we 262 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: will have their press conference live and now we will 263 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: be discussing it and covering it, so it'll be covered, 264 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: and then we'll come back the next day. All right, 265 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: So let's grab the ozone, And first out of the 266 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: gate is Brian from Wheeling, who wants to know. He says, Hey, look, 267 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: the Jags took the NFL by surprise last season and 268 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: did a lot better than expect. Can they do the 269 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: same or better knowing they're not a walk over? In 270 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: other words, you're not gonna surprise people in twenty twenty three. Yeah. 271 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm not as big on this theme when analyzing the 272 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: NFL as a lot of people, mainly because I don't 273 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: know if realistically just because the Jags weren't very good 274 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, I don't know that they surprised 275 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboys when they beat them out here. They were 276 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, they had film, they looked at it. I'm 277 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: not big on thinking that team. I mean, I know 278 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: teams get up for certain games in their own division, 279 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: but generally NFL teams don't go in saying, oh, we're gonna, 280 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, beat these guys. It's more about matchups, It's 281 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: more about game planning and scheming. Um. I think the 282 00:15:53,840 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: issue next year will be less for instan team. The Chargers, 283 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: they were looked him in the playoffs. They had already 284 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: beat him out there by twenty eight So let's not 285 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: denigrate what the Jaguars did by saying they overlooked him. 286 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: What will be a factor is there's a higher percentage 287 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: chance that you're playing contending teams next year because of 288 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: that first place schedule. When the Jaguars beat the Bills 289 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: in November of twenty twenty one, right, they surprised him. Sure, right, 290 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: that was the case because the Jaguars roster wasn't very good. 291 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: They weren't very well coached in twenty twenty one, and 292 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: as a result, the Bills probably looked at the tape 293 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: and said, look, if we just go execute our game 294 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: plan and do what we do with our quarterback against 295 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: that rookie, we win. And that wasn't the case. That's 296 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: not gonna be the case in twenty twenty three. Now. 297 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: The difference is people look at this roster and they 298 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: look at the head coach, and I think Doug is 299 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: the difference in a lot of these situations. It doesn't 300 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: matter whether you're surprised or not. You're going to have 301 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: to deal with him in his game plan. And I 302 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: thought he was so innovative in the way that he 303 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: approached it this year that it's Doug's game plan with 304 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: the talent you've got here that you have to contend with. Yeah, 305 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: and it's Trevor Lawrence. That's what I mean. You starting right, 306 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: starting to make plays above the ex's nose above and 307 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: in the second half of season that gave them significant 308 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: points and significant advantages in some games. Uh. Yeah, teams 309 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: are gonna about the Jags. But when this team got 310 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: good late in the season, teams already knew about right 311 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: line up and play with this coach in this quarterback, 312 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: you have to line up and play. You don't worry 313 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: about whether people are prepared for you or not. All right, ozone? 314 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: Question number two, it's John from the Land of Indian River. Ozon, 315 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: what's different about this Jaguars staff's approach and philosophy from 316 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: past Jaguars. Yeah, and I would picking these questions. You know, 317 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a a slow time, So I 318 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: went a little bit more philosophical, and this is low 319 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: and behold the question about philosophy. Um, you know when 320 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: I answered this in writing, it's a tricky subject because realistically, 321 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: when NFL people start talking about approach and philosophy, they 322 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: use sort of the same buzzwords. It's culture, it's motivation, 323 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: trans you know, all those things, mainly culture. So when 324 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: we say, well, Doug created a culture, well, I'll guarantee 325 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: you when the Colts hire their new coach, he's up 326 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: there talking about culture. Maron talked about culture, Urban and 327 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,959 Speaker 1: I are talked about. Everyone talks about culture. The difference is, 328 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: I think Doug Peterson the difference is in the ability 329 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: to have players buy into that. All staffs sort of 330 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: have the same approach and philosophy with pretty close. It's 331 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: do you have the you know, are you a man 332 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: that they want to follow if you're a coach? Doug 333 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: is that And I think that's the fundamental difference in 334 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: approach and philosophy is players look up at the front 335 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: of the room when that guy's talking and say, I 336 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: believe in that. If there's anything I can add to that, 337 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: it's that his fearless mentality right going forward on fourth down, 338 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: on his side of the fifty yard line, the plays 339 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: that he called the instincts that he has. Doug has 340 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: no fear. Not that coaches living fear on the sideline, 341 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: but some are more conservative, some play situational football differently 342 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: than Doug did. Doug was going to go for it 343 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: with his team, and he told us in the preseason, 344 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: John that he was going to use this season to 345 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: teach this team his philosophy and his approach. And of course, 346 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: as you just mentioned, these guys loved playing for him. 347 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: But a why do guys do that these days? And 348 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: there's still a backbone and a spine. You've got to 349 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: have to it. Meaning you know, when a player is 350 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: in Doug's office talking to him, is he getting the 351 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: same guy that he's getting when he's walking out to 352 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: the field. Is he getting the same guy when Doug's 353 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: in a bad mood and had a bad day and 354 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: heard that they did they did? Yeah, And you know 355 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: so again, approach and philosophy are words that everybody says. 356 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: Doug so far has shown that he's a guy that 357 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: these players believe in. I have no reason think that'll change, Lauren. 358 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: At our final ozone question for today comes to Justin 359 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: who comes from Justin to John from New York City, 360 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: And will the Dragons have a chance to evaluate Ridley 361 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: at all before the draft? Yeah, it's another tricky one 362 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: a little. I mean, I'm assuming that he gets in. 363 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that he'll be here April seventeenth when it starts. 364 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: But the draft is April twenty eight, and the first 365 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: two the first two weeks of the offseason program are 366 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,719 Speaker 1: conditioning meetings, rehab. So in terms of on the field 367 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: with Pat, you know, any kind of pads, no, But 368 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: the reality is they know what he is, they have 369 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: an idea about what kind of shape he's in. They've 370 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: done due diligence on that front. Remember when you analyze 371 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: this and when you worry about it as a fan. 372 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: They gave up a fourth and a fifth conditional turns 373 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: into fifth. I mean, minimal risk involved with his trade 374 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: for the possible payout. And from everything you hear from 375 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: people who know Calvin, from Christian Kirk is good friends 376 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: with Calvin. He says, Look, this guy's dedicated, he's you know, 377 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: he's on point. There's no reason to believe he won't 378 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: come in and be physically ready to go. It would 379 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: be some rust. Yeah, they won't be able to evaluate 380 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: him on the field, but all of that stuff. They 381 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: are as prepared as you can be in this situation, 382 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: and they are as informed at as you can be 383 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: in this situation, or they wouldn't make the trade. And 384 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: I think it's reasonable to expect that they're not going 385 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: to do a lot of evaluating of him because of 386 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: the draft, right. I mean, this is not a team 387 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: that's receiver needy. Right. If there's somebody who's so good 388 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: and so highly graded on their board that they can't 389 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: pass them up, right, well, they're going to take that 390 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: player anyway. They'll make the evaluation about Ridley in August 391 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: about how he fits in and can help them in 392 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: September when the regular season starts, so justin they don't 393 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: need to be, you know, diving knee deep into the 394 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: evaluations in the first couple of weeks of the offseason program. 395 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: They'll be looking at conditioning and things of that nature, 396 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: and they'll worry more about what he brings in August 397 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: when he gets back. There's sort of a weird reception 398 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: Brian and I get it because we're so used to 399 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: around here of the offseason acquisition being such a big deal, 400 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: and Calvin really has the potential to be a big deal. 401 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: But it's not like they pushed all the chips in 402 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: on this and signed this guy to a mega deal. 403 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: This is a lower risk acquisition than christ and Kirk. Yeah, 404 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: in terms of what they gave up paying eleven million 405 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: dollars for him this year. Right, So this is a 406 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: very calculated move with big up, huge potential payout and 407 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: relatively little risks. So it could turn out to be 408 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: a shrewd Yeah. But really, as you said, this question 409 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: sort of implies that, oh my goodness, we have to 410 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 1: have a receiver or we're in big time trouble. We 411 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: need to evaluate this guy and if he's a step slow, 412 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: we gotta take one in the first round. It's not 413 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: that sort of pressure situation. No, not at all. Well, 414 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: there's the ozone mail bag, which be a regular part 415 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: of our program throughout the off season, and when we return, 416 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: we'll take a look around the AFC South. There's been 417 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: plenty of change and plenty coming. We'll do that when 418 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: we return your own Jags drive time. Well, let's see, 419 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: there's two new coaches and a new general manager and 420 00:23:55,520 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: all sorts of possibilities in the AFC South, but we 421 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: go around the division to take a look and see 422 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: at least from a thirty thousand foot view here on 423 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: Jaggi's Drive Time presented by Carshield. So let's start with 424 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: the Titans, who have a new general manager in rand 425 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: Carthon It. Remember when they fired their general manager last year. 426 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: They didn't win another game, right, and we were all 427 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: surprised when they let him go. Yeah, there's still something 428 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: we talked during the break. There's something about Vrabel and 429 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: about that team that still you've got to knock him 430 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: out before they're out. He's a really good coach and 431 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: we sort of saw that this year. They were whilst 432 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: what six in a row coming into this game, and 433 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: they still probably should have won the game, you know, 434 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: And I only say that because when you win on 435 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: a fumble return in the last three minutes of the game, 436 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure that the Titans are up there. We should 437 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: have won that game. Well. It was remarkable because Joshua 438 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: Dobbs had them in a position to win that ballgame 439 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: with everything that was on the line, with the long 440 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: losing streak, and it'd only been there for two weeks. 441 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: So the number one thing I wrote down for them. 442 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: Their number one priority is who's going to be their quarterback? 443 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: Fair quarterback? And you know it's it didn't look at 444 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: the end of the season like they had their air 445 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: apparent yet well the Dobbs started instead of Malik Willis. 446 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: So there's a big question. Well, and some of that is, Okay, 447 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: a young guy comes in, you see what he is, 448 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: and you're trying to win a game right now, but 449 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: you still like the future that that wouldn't panic me, 450 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: but it would make me feel real great either. So 451 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: are they a team that believes in him? That's a 452 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: huge step to make. On paper, if they went the 453 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: Malik Willis route, you would think, okay, rebuilding. But again, 454 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: there's something about the way they play. They know how 455 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: to play even if he's the quarterback. The Titans are 456 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: a team that feels to me like they're going to 457 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: be at least around five hundred going into December, and 458 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: you always got to worry about him. One other question, 459 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: you got to figure that there's a big decision on 460 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, right, not that you cut him or not, 461 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: but do you maximize what he's probably one of his 462 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: remaining one or two seems slower last year than he 463 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: was the year before, and that just happens with those 464 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: big bruising backs. So if you're gonna keep Derrick Henry 465 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: is your centerpiece, do you keep Ryan Tannehill because it 466 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: gives you the best chance to maximize Derrick Henry. Yeah, 467 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: it's that'll be interesting where you swing for an Aaron Rodgers. 468 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: They've got the cap room, you would think with a 469 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: new GM coming in to say you could easily say, hey, 470 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: we're going to try to ease Derrick Henry into retirement, 471 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: meaning over the next few years, not use him as much, 472 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,239 Speaker 1: to use him in spot. But he's a guy. If 473 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: you've got him on your team and it's third and three, 474 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna use it. So with a new GM, it 475 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: would be a little surprising historically if it was a 476 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: swing for the fences type thing. But they're a team 477 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: that typically believes going into every season that they have 478 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: a chance to get it done. Well. They reignited Tannehill's career, 479 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,479 Speaker 1: could they reignite Jimmy Garoppolo, who was with Ran Carthon 480 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: in San Francisco. Big questions in Nashville and some Patriots 481 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: feel there with Rabel so it wouldn't be a huge reach. Colts, 482 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: same question, right. Shane Styke in the new head coach, 483 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: and they've they got a quarterback issue, and they've they've 484 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: tried to play patchet with a variety of different players 485 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: since Andrew luck up and retired. They're near the top 486 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: of the draft. There are a couple of names up there. 487 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: The question is how good is their roster and what 488 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: do they do well a quarterback because their roster on 489 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: defense pret talented. Yeah, I wonder about the Colts because 490 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: of this. We sort of said for years that we 491 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: felt like the roster was great and the offensive line 492 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: was really great and all it needed was a quarterback. 493 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: And I wonder if if that sort of became the 494 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: thing that we all said, and over time it wasn't 495 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: as true if you follow it. Sometimes you follow the 496 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: Traffics saying, well, they got a great roster. Well, last 497 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: year they really didn't look like a great team, even 498 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: around Matt Ryan, and the offensive line did not perform 499 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:40,479 Speaker 1: as well as its reputation. So it strikes me that 500 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: this might be a year where the Colts. They have 501 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: had a lot of success over the last twenty five 502 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: years with young quarterback, highly drafted quarterback one year and 503 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, boom, they get back in it. 504 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: They got back in it quickly with Andrew Luck as 505 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: a rookie, and then it took his second year before 506 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: they got back into it. Feels like they're going to 507 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: number one overall, number two overall type quarterback. From a 508 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: Jaguars fans perspective, wouldn't you think that their quote luck 509 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: runs out with that and eventually they draft one that's 510 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: not great and I think it's a Jaggers fans I've 511 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: got to believe eventually you don't hit a home run 512 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: with that spot, but we'll see if they do, then 513 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: they're the most blessed franchise in feederball, because you think 514 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: about it, that would be unprecedented. Or to have him 515 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: three right, because you have Luck was on his way right, 516 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: he was going to be a Hall of Famer and 517 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: then it sort of got squorely. But the pick, well, 518 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: I mean, all of a sudden, they're a contender immediately 519 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: with him and then Peyton Farvin Rodgers sort of did 520 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: it beyond that? Has anybody gone back to back quite 521 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: like that? Back to back to back? Um Jim or says, 522 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: leaving a charmed life. That happens. All right, Let's finish 523 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: with the Texans obviously. Look, Demiko Ryan's the new head coach, 524 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: former Texans linebacker. They have draft capital, they have salary 525 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: cap room, they have a ton of picks from the 526 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson trade. There's a real opportunity, which is why 527 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: he was interested in this job for them if they 528 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: can find the quarterback. All three of these teams in 529 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: the AFC South have quarterback as their number one question. 530 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: Where the Texans have, They've been through it too. They 531 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: waited a long time for this because it feels like 532 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: I had. They went from being a very consistent franchise, 533 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: always sort of contending and sort of being sort of 534 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: similar to the Titans in that sense where even if 535 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: they didn't have a great quarterback, and Deshaun Watson a 536 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: great but maybe not in that elite, you know, they 537 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: were always right there. You always had to worry about him, 538 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden everything went south, and 539 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: you know, they've had as bad a luck as bad 540 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: a results as they've made the league last two years. 541 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: So they've sort of in that sense the same way 542 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: the Jaguars sort of earned their surge last year. They've 543 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: earned their situation. I mean, they've been through it. It's 544 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: sort of hard to imagine them jumping to contending status 545 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: immediately because they have so many holes. Probably two years away. 546 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: As he said, the quarterbacks to be a question, and 547 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: there are a couple of quarterbacks at the top of 548 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: the draft, and we'll cover that had nauseum on future 549 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: editions of this show. Let's wrap it up when we 550 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: come back. You're watching Jags Drive Time on a Tuesday 551 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: in February with the combine coming next week, and of 552 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: course we'll have coverage. You're on Jaguars dot Com back 553 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: in a moment. Well, Magellan moves the freight every day 554 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: and you could move in with them. Have been voted 555 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: the coolest office base in Jacksonville, and they invite you 556 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: to apply online at Magellan Logistics dot com. Move the 557 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: freight with Magellan Transport. Bryan and John back to wrap 558 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: up the show. You checked Doug and Trent talk on Tuesday. Yeah, 559 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: they talked Tuesday, first day of the combine, twelve thirty 560 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: and one. Is That's what I'm saying, and then we'll 561 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: carry them discuss them Tuesday and then come back on 562 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: Wednesday with drift time and probably talk about what they 563 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: said again. Yeah, over and over and over and over again. 564 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: We'll be talking about the same scenarios, right, how the 565 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: Jaguars get to the salary cap, where they go in 566 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: terms of trying to bring back a guy like m 567 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor and Evan Ingram, and then start looking towards 568 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: the draft, and of course for the first time in 569 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: a couple of years, we'll be watching and trying to 570 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: see what twenty three teams in front of them are doing. 571 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: That will be more interesting than Hey, we know who 572 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna take first overall. Any the best thing, Ryan, 573 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way they can trade back 574 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: into the first round. There's no the North and Draft 575 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: night when they traded in the first Well, when you're 576 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: on site like I was last year and the guy's 577 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: not there for the second year in a row, you're like, God, 578 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: I hope they dropped back into the first run. So 579 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: I have something to do, and we did this year, 580 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: so we appreciated anything to do that's easy. I appreciate that. 581 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: All right, John Osan, enjoy your trip to Indianapolis. Looking 582 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: forward to and for our broadcast crew, Welcome back to 583 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: Jags Drivetime. We'll see you next Wednesday here on Drivetime