Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed.
Speaker 2: It's spooky, Hey kooky.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming, it's.
Speaker 3: Way Wait a minute, Hey, I've.
Speaker 1: Said by ros dress. Hey boo, it's me Rod's dressful ass.
Speaker 1: I am in a good mood today because it is
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Speaker 1: been ghosted too. Hello, oh hello, Hello? Is this Eddie
Speaker 1: the Setti? Hi Eddie?
Speaker 3: How are you good? How are you good?
Speaker 1: You're in Hawaii?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I'm on the Big Island. Cool.
Speaker 1: You sent me one of my favorite stories ever.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. That means a lot to me,
Speaker 2: and I.
Speaker 3: Love that story.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so for people that might not know, you
Speaker 1: said the story a while ago about your grandfather. Wait,
Speaker 1: can you tell it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Sure, totally. So I had a couple friends over, my
Speaker 2: friend Stacey and my other friend Stacey, and we just
Speaker 2: like to hang out and do fun you know, witchy
Speaker 2: stuff or whatever, and so we decided to do a
Speaker 2: say once and we set it all up and did
Speaker 2: a circle and all this stuff, and we whatever said
Speaker 2: what you're supposed to say to call on the spirits,
Speaker 2: and we were just kind of waiting and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, the phone rang, and so you're supposed to
Speaker 2: like open the circle and close it. So that's what
Speaker 2: I did, and I go to answer the phone because
Speaker 2: it was at my house and nobody was on the phone.
Speaker 2: And then I went back to my room where my
Speaker 2: friends were, and I opened the circle and closed it.
Speaker 2: And they were like, did you hear that when you
Speaker 2: were in the living room And I said, no, what
Speaker 2: And they said they heard like a bird call or something,
Speaker 2: but it was really wild, like it was inside the room,
Speaker 2: and I didn't hear it. And so after that we
Speaker 2: didn't nothing happened, so we would just kind of called
Speaker 2: it a loss and did whatever. And then I don't
Speaker 2: know if it was that night, but it was really
Speaker 2: soon after that. All of a sudden, man was just
Speaker 2: at the foot of my bed in a brown suit
Speaker 2: looking at me. And I didn't feel nervous or scared
Speaker 2: or anything. I just felt like it was a family
Speaker 2: or I felt I at that time, I felt like
Speaker 2: it was me, or that it was like an older
Speaker 2: brother kind of thing, because it didn't look like my grandfather.
Speaker 2: It looked like a younger man. But I'm also named
Speaker 2: after my grandfather, so to me that later on made sense.
Speaker 2: But he would appear to me for a couple of times,
Speaker 2: a couple of nights.
Speaker 3: In a row.
Speaker 2: And my sister saw him too, and she said, you know,
Speaker 2: there's a man in your room and I said, I know,
Speaker 2: but I think he's good and he doesn't bother me
Speaker 2: and I feel comfortable with him there. And my sister said, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think he's good too. And then later that night
Speaker 2: I could just start to tell that he wanted to
Speaker 2: get in the bed with wey what and I know,
Speaker 2: but it didn't make me feel weird, and I just
Speaker 2: was like, okay, well, if you want to get into
Speaker 2: bed with we can, Like it was like a comforting thing.
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, but what do you mean? Like he was
Speaker 1: like looking at you like.
Speaker 2: I could just tell. I don't know, he was just
Speaker 2: now not like that. He was just looking at me,
Speaker 2: and I could just tell he wanted to get in
Speaker 2: the bed, and so I said, if you want to
Speaker 2: come into bed, you can, and he did, and after
Speaker 2: that he just kind of went away. I didn't really
Speaker 2: see him. But when I was growing up, my grandparents
Speaker 2: slept in separate rooms, and so when we would stay
Speaker 2: at my grandparents house, I used to sleep with my
Speaker 2: grandpa in his room, and my sister would sleep with
Speaker 2: my grandma, and so it just kind of like it
Speaker 2: took me a while to realize it was my grandpa,
Speaker 2: but it made sense later on. And then the brown
Speaker 2: suit that he was wearing, I inherited it, so a
Speaker 2: brown tuxedo actually gave left me a brown and a
Speaker 2: black tuxedo. And it just tripped me out, Like it
Speaker 2: took me a while to realize it was him, but
Speaker 2: it was such a trip be like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: that was him wearing this suit that I have and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is really pretty safe. Opened up so many
Speaker 1: conversations in my life and in my life since you
Speaker 1: sent me that story, because I really it's baffled my mind.
Speaker 1: How can there be a suit physically in this earth?
Speaker 1: But then also like the ghost of that suit.
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I would like to know that too.
Speaker 1: Also, it makes me so happy anytime I hear these
Speaker 1: stories about people that can go. They can be in
Speaker 1: the afterlife at their youngest, you know, at their prime,
Speaker 1: or you know, they can choose, and that's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And what was kind of crazy is at
Speaker 2: that same time when my sister and I were talking
Speaker 2: about the man. She said, you know, I think he's
Speaker 2: good and I said yeah, and she and I said,
Speaker 2: you know, there's like a little girl in your room.
Speaker 2: And my sister said, yeah, she's like evil or bad
Speaker 2: or something, and it was and that's the vibe that
Speaker 2: I got from it, too, And it was just kind
Speaker 2: of weird because for me, I can like picture what
Speaker 2: they look like in my head, like I just get
Speaker 2: a picture of what they look like. But she was
Speaker 2: saying she could like see them, like it was a
Speaker 2: person really standing there, and she could see the little girl,
Speaker 2: which kind of was creepy because I was in her
Speaker 2: room one time and looking at this old mirror that
Speaker 2: she had. And I've heard too that sometimes, especially with
Speaker 2: really old antique mirrors, especially if it was like the
Speaker 2: only mirror that person owned, sometimes their spirit like could
Speaker 2: travel with it or their energy or I don't know,
Speaker 2: so I don't know if that was the case of this.
Speaker 2: But there was this big mirror and I was looking
Speaker 2: into it, and all of a sudden, I looked under
Speaker 2: my sister's bed and there was nothing there, but I
Speaker 2: felt like there was like a tiger crouching ready to
Speaker 2: pounce on me and I ran out of my sister's room.
Speaker 2: It was like such a terrifying feeling. It just made
Speaker 2: she just made you feel that way, and it was
Speaker 2: such a terrifying, scary feeling. And she was, I don't know,
Speaker 2: she looked like she was from the sisties. Me and
Speaker 2: my sister were both describing her. And she had like
Speaker 2: blonde ringlets, like thick curls, and she had like a
Speaker 2: little white dress and those Mary Jane shoes that are
Speaker 2: you know, white with the black, and she just looked
Speaker 2: like a little fifties girl. But she just had a
Speaker 2: really bad vibe.
Speaker 3: About her, huh.
Speaker 1: And so we never.
Speaker 2: Really found out anything about her, but we ended up
Speaker 2: moving out of that place.
Speaker 1: But do you believe that your grandfather looking young in
Speaker 1: his tuxedo and the Tiger girl both came from this
Speaker 1: the incidents with the Staceys.
Speaker 2: We think so, yeah. Even though I mean we tried
Speaker 2: to do everything right and we had our little salt
Speaker 2: circle and all that stuff, I think that is what
Speaker 2: kind of like opened up for it. Which I'm really
Speaker 2: grateful that my grandfather could, you know, say, we were
Speaker 2: really close and he would all and growing up a
Speaker 2: lot of times we would just stay at our grandparents'
Speaker 2: house because my mom was working a lot and my
Speaker 2: dad wasn't really around, and so it was just like
Speaker 2: they were kind of like our parents, my grandparents, and
Speaker 2: so my grandpa would always walk us to the beach
Speaker 2: and stuff. So I'm really grateful that he that I
Speaker 2: got to see him again. But it was really kind
Speaker 2: of creepy weird that that little girl happened to come
Speaker 2: around at that time.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, I love the Grandpa's story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about.
Speaker 1: The haunted Ferbie story?
Speaker 2: So that so that was I mean, I was probably
Speaker 2: only like ten or eleven, and it was when Ferbie's
Speaker 2: were it just came out. And I'm the oldest. So
Speaker 2: I have a younger sister two years younger, and a
Speaker 2: younger brother who's two years younger than her, and we
Speaker 2: got the furby and it was just kind of like
Speaker 2: we were all sharing it and we would play with
Speaker 2: it and try to teach you know, need to teach
Speaker 2: it how to talk over time and whatever. But we
Speaker 2: had a week to so at that time, when I
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe my sister got the Ferbie and I
Speaker 2: think I got a week board for Christmas because I
Speaker 2: asked for it, and it was a glow and the
Speaker 2: dark wee two board. So I was feeling that because
Speaker 2: we were playing with the Wiiji board is what happened
Speaker 2: with the ferbie. But after a while we stopped playing
Speaker 2: with it because I realized that everybody that was talking
Speaker 2: to us through the Weiji board like died a really horrible, scary,
Speaker 2: crazy way. I just only remember talking to this kid
Speaker 2: who said he was like four or five, and he
Speaker 2: said it. He said his name was Stu, and we
Speaker 2: would all the kids would come over in our we
Speaker 2: lived in this apartment and all the kids in the
Speaker 2: apartment complex would come over and do the Weiji board,
Speaker 2: would live and we So it was this kid, stew
Speaker 2: and he was four and he was he was killed,
Speaker 2: he said, and it was just like really sad talking
Speaker 2: about So we stopped kind of playing with it. But
Speaker 2: one day we woke up in the middle of the
Speaker 2: night and I was watching my brother and sister and
Speaker 2: my mom was working a late shift, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, the Ferbie's in the closet and we just
Speaker 2: hear the ferbie talking and I it was saying like
Speaker 2: hello or whatever, but it wouldn't shut up. It was
Speaker 2: we thought it was off, so we went to go
Speaker 2: get it, and we opened the closet and it's talking
Speaker 2: and talking and talking, and we're like, Okay, this is
Speaker 2: too weird. So we turn it off, and it didn't
Speaker 2: stop talking, and so we took I had to unscrew
Speaker 2: the bottom and take the batteries out of it. And
Speaker 2: when we took the batteries out of it, it just
Speaker 2: started making the super loud static like kind of sound
Speaker 2: and it was so loud and it was so creepy,
Speaker 2: and we dropped it and it did that for like
Speaker 2: several minutes with no batteries in it or anything. And
Speaker 2: so after that, I don't think we ever played with
Speaker 2: that ferbi again.
Speaker 1: Because, oh god, ferbies are just creepy. In general. They
Speaker 1: still make those, right it.
Speaker 2: Heard like other Hunted stories of them. It's creepy.
Speaker 1: Do they still make ferbies?
Speaker 2: I don't think so, I hope not.
Speaker 1: Those were sort of the original Alexa in a way
Speaker 1: you would just hear a voice talking. I used to
Speaker 1: have a great relationship with my furbie. Well, I love
Speaker 1: that you were a little kid that played with the
Speaker 1: glow and the dark Ouiji board, because obviously I was
Speaker 1: too the one that you could just buy a toys
Speaker 1: r U.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's what it was. It was like some toy
Speaker 2: store and I think for Christmas we all got to
Speaker 2: pick out our own toy and that's what I picked out.
Speaker 2: And actually, since I started listening to your show and
Speaker 2: I was messaging my mom and so some of the
Speaker 2: things that I like, since I moved to Hawaii. I
Speaker 2: just moved here, you know, with like a small suitcase
Speaker 2: or whatever, and my mom still had some of my
Speaker 2: stuff on the mainland. But she I asked her if
Speaker 2: she still had the wiki board because I wanted it,
Speaker 2: and she said no. That was the first thing that
Speaker 2: I got rid of when you moved out of the house.
Speaker 2: I didn't want. But I'm thinking so, unfortunately the Wheki
Speaker 2: board has gone.
Speaker 1: You know, but it's probably for the best.
Speaker 2: It probably is. Yeah, after hearing your Ouiji boards story,
Speaker 2: I think I'm okay.
Speaker 1: Wait, so is Charlie your dad's ghost friend.
Speaker 2: Yeah. When we were I don't know, it was like
Speaker 2: probably when I was like seven or eight. My parents
Speaker 2: had got a divorce and my dad moved to this big,
Speaker 2: old Victorian house that he was fixing up, and it
Speaker 2: was like five bedrooms and actually have more of that
Speaker 2: story that I because I just talked to my dad
Speaker 2: about it too, but and I had to make sure
Speaker 2: that it was real, and he wasn't like just telling
Speaker 2: you know. Anyways. So all of a sudden, we're just
Speaker 2: in the living room whatever, watching TV, and then my
Speaker 2: dad or we just hear this like loud crash upstairs,
Speaker 2: like a wall got knocked over or like a bunch
Speaker 2: of lumber got knocked over something weird, which my dad
Speaker 2: was doing construction, so that's what we thought it was.
Speaker 2: And he's like, okay, guys, stay down here, because he
Speaker 2: had just got to this house and he went goes
Speaker 2: upstairs and he's gone for like five or ten minutes,
Speaker 2: and then he comes back downstairs and he just is
Speaker 2: very calm, and he's like, okay, guys, I just want
Speaker 2: to let you know that there is a man name
Speaker 2: here named Charlie. But he's nice and you don't need
Speaker 2: to worry about it, and he is a spirit, but
Speaker 2: he just wanted you to know that he's here in house.
Speaker 2: And we were just like, well, okay, Like he was
Speaker 2: so calm and whatever about it that we didn't think
Speaker 2: about it. But one so I actually like physically met
Speaker 2: Charlie one night, and I had to ask my dad
Speaker 2: what he looked like to make sure because anyway, because
Speaker 2: my dad would have my dad was always having fun
Speaker 2: and partying and he always had a lot of friends over.
Speaker 2: But one day I woke up and I go downstairs,
Speaker 2: and the Wizard of ozes on TV. And it was
Speaker 2: in that paint Victorian house and there's this man sitting
Speaker 2: on the couch and he was totally like eighties style,
Speaker 2: like kind of like boy George looking, with like black
Speaker 2: pants and like a roughly black top and a dangly earring,
Speaker 2: which are now coming back.
Speaker 1: In style, right, okay.
Speaker 2: And so he was watching the end of the Lizard
Speaker 2: of Oz and I just I mean I was young,
Speaker 2: like seven, and I just walked in and I was like,
Speaker 2: oh hi, and he just looked at me and he
Speaker 2: it was part of the Wizard of ozwear Dorothy saying
Speaker 2: goodbye to everyone and saying, oh, I'm miss you most
Speaker 2: of all, and he's like, oh, I always cry at
Speaker 2: this part, and he just started crying. And I just remember, I,
Speaker 2: you know, I was a kid, and I just remember laughing.
Speaker 2: It was kind of like trying to comfort him or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I was just like, oh, he really does cry
Speaker 2: every time. And I just remember, you know, watching the
Speaker 2: rest of the movie and it was the end anyways,
Speaker 2: and then I went back to bed, and so I
Speaker 2: talked to my dad about it, and I was like,
Speaker 2: so was Charlie.
Speaker 3: Was this real?
Speaker 2: Did this really happen or was that many of your friends?
Speaker 2: And It's like, yeah, that was Charlie. And I said,
Speaker 2: you know, what did Charlie look like? Because I think
Speaker 2: I actually ran into him one night. But it was
Speaker 2: so weird because he was like a real person.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like a.
Speaker 2: Spirit or anything. He looked like he was sucking time
Speaker 2: in his outfit or whatever.
Speaker 1: Which, No, was your grandfather the same, Like your grandfather
Speaker 1: looked just like a human like every.
Speaker 2: Day when I was it was more kind of like
Speaker 2: I could see his I could see him, but I
Speaker 2: could more see him in like my mind like I
Speaker 2: couldn't I could physically my sister could physically see him,
Speaker 2: like he was just right there. I could see like
Speaker 2: his outline, I could see what he was wearing, but
Speaker 2: in my head I could really kind of more picture
Speaker 2: what you look like. Yeah, So that was pretty interesting
Speaker 2: because it took me. Actually, I just realized it the
Speaker 2: other day, but I was like, oh my god, I
Speaker 2: think that was Charlie when I was writing this stuff.
Speaker 1: So watching the Wizard of Oz, I know that kind
Speaker 1: of fella with a danglar hearing watching the Wizard of
Speaker 1: Oz crying.
Speaker 3: Charlie.
Speaker 1: We know him, we know Charlie.
Speaker 2: He was probably like, I see you, little boy. You're
Speaker 2: gonna be okay, Charlie.
Speaker 1: Hi is this Liz from Chicago?
Speaker 4: Hi? Hi?
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 4: I'm great?
Speaker 1: How are you so good? Are you ready to be
Speaker 1: on a podcast?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Well I want to hear your ghost story about your
Speaker 1: grandma's house.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, there's lunch. I can just start from being
Speaker 4: really young.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, let's do the whole thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay. So my grandma lives a few blocks away
Speaker 4: from me, so when my mom was still working, we
Speaker 4: were pretty much raised by her through there every day
Speaker 4: and my brother and I used to play in the
Speaker 4: basis and we'd be playing like I don't know, barbies
Speaker 4: or something, and he'd go up ferries and I would
Speaker 4: just feel horrible down there, just terrible energy. I would
Speaker 4: run up after him like please don't leave me, like
Speaker 4: like not good, and obviously as children, nobody ever said
Speaker 4: anything to us like, oh, if there's spirits here and things.
Speaker 1: But it only felt that way when he wasn't there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, nobody, nobody said anything. But obviously people knew
Speaker 4: when we grew older. And I remember sitting at the
Speaker 4: kitchen table doing my homework sometime in elementary school, and
Speaker 4: my grandma would left so get groceries, and I was alone,
Speaker 4: and I heard Elizabeth from the upstairs to her house
Speaker 4: and I said, yeah, Grandma, and I got no response.
Speaker 4: I just didn't think anything of it. I don't know,
Speaker 4: I was a child.
Speaker 1: Was it her voice?
Speaker 4: It was her voice exactly to a tea. It was
Speaker 4: my grandma. And I responded like something could happen. And
Speaker 4: ten minutes later she walked from the door, and I
Speaker 4: was like, hold on. So actually a few years later,
Speaker 4: we were all sitting my whole family, my aunt, my mom,
Speaker 4: my dad, everybody was sitting at the diningue table for Christmas,
Speaker 4: and I had brought that story up and my aunt
Speaker 4: just turned white. She was like, that exact thing has
Speaker 4: happened to me, but in my grandfather's in.
Speaker 1: Your grandfather's house.
Speaker 4: No, my grandfather's voice calling her name.
Speaker 1: Oh and his voice what yes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so whatever is upstairs can mimic my grandparents' voices.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's like an impressionist like jim Jimmy Fallon.
Speaker 4: Ghost just really trying to start a career. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then a few years later, my grandparents had left
Speaker 4: to go to Ireland, where my grandfather was from, and
Speaker 4: my brother and I were house sitting and he had
Speaker 4: gotten permission to have a house party, and he was
Speaker 4: really popular in high school, so he had like a
Speaker 4: bunch of people over maybe thirty people in the basement
Speaker 4: of my grandma's house, and my brother's ex girlfriend had
Speaker 4: been looking for her. Friends couldn't find her for hours,
Speaker 4: and finally found her in the pitch black in the
Speaker 4: laundry room, talking to the dryer. Yeah. Yes, Well, a
Speaker 4: little backstory about that dryer is that my my grandma's
Speaker 4: dog absolutely hated the dryer, Like what if you opened
Speaker 4: up the door to the basement, he would run downstairs
Speaker 4: and attack it, like, scratch it, bite the dryer to
Speaker 4: the point where we had to get a new one
Speaker 4: because the door had fallen off it. He hated it.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so she had asked your friends like what
Speaker 4: are you, like, what are you doing here? And she said,
Speaker 4: there's a little boy in here and he's really sad
Speaker 4: and he wants you to wash the blanket and what
Speaker 4: what do you mean? Watched the blankets? But but nobody
Speaker 4: had known at that time is that the night before
Speaker 4: my brother's friend had gotten really drunk and had thought
Speaker 4: that the trunk of my grandma's handmade blanket was washroom
Speaker 4: and had pete all over them. So yeah, so that
Speaker 4: little girlst point in the basement had told her to
Speaker 4: washed with my kids because she was apparently very upset
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 1: Was this the first time that the little ghost boy
Speaker 1: made an appearance.
Speaker 4: Talking to somebody that I know of? Yes, I know
Speaker 4: that my cousins have seen things in the bament when
Speaker 4: they visited, but I've never seen the little ghost boy.
Speaker 4: I've always kind of felt that there was a little
Speaker 4: boy downstairs, which is what the energy was down there,
Speaker 4: but I had never seen him before. Okay, I know, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's yeah. So everybody left the party after that because
Speaker 4: nobody felt right down there anymore.
Speaker 1: And so actually at the party, everyone like you guys
Speaker 1: were like, just so you know, there is no little
Speaker 1: boy that's a ghost and then everyone freaked out and left.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, she was like in trance. It was. She
Speaker 4: was just standing in the dark, staring at the drier
Speaker 4: and talked to it and just didn't think anything was
Speaker 4: strange about that. She was just talking to somebody.
Speaker 1: Oh was she doing drugs?
Speaker 4: No, hopefully not.
Speaker 1: So what's the story with the house? Now?
Speaker 4: So one my grandma and my grandpa were in Ireland.
Speaker 4: My mom had actually got in the house staged, but
Speaker 4: I don't think it helped much. I don't really go
Speaker 4: there that Austin anymore because it really just makes me
Speaker 4: very uncomfortable. My grandma lives there alone, and she's just
Speaker 4: she's like, oh, yeah, little thing's happen here and there,
Speaker 4: and just doesn't say anything other than that.
Speaker 1: But but she doesn't know who the little boy is.
Speaker 4: No, she she had told me a story when I
Speaker 4: was younger about a little boy that had lived there
Speaker 4: named Justin and when a few years after she had
Speaker 4: moved in there, she had found his name just carved
Speaker 4: into their brand new windows green. And that's the only
Speaker 4: story she'll tell me, which is very creepy.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what's going on in the upstairs of this house?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 4: When my mom was a teenager. She said that there
Speaker 4: used to be something that would open the door of
Speaker 4: her room and walk in at night, and she could
Speaker 4: hear it creaking the floor and would come up to
Speaker 4: her and just start saying horrible things to her, like
Speaker 4: in her ear, like you're gonna die, Everyone's gonna die.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna kill you. And even to this day, she'll
Speaker 4: sleep with the pillow and a blanket over her face
Speaker 4: because of just force of habit of trying to not
Speaker 4: hear what it was saying to her. And after she
Speaker 4: moved out, my aunt had moved into her room and
Speaker 4: the same thing was happening to her point where one
Speaker 4: time she was laying in her bed and the bed
Speaker 4: had actually started to come off of the ground and
Speaker 4: start shaking.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I know what would you do if
Speaker 1: that happened. I don't even know.
Speaker 4: I just trying to think of these stories. And like
Speaker 4: my like my aunt, she's just like an office worker,
Speaker 4: like corporate lady. She's you know, and we're just sitting around.
Speaker 4: She's like, yeah, like, but guy started levigating under me what.
Speaker 1: You were telling me that you then moved to one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty year old Chicago Landmark. What happened there?
Speaker 4: Yes, So when I was twelve years old, my family
Speaker 4: moved to one hundred and fifty year old Chicago Landmark
Speaker 4: and it's a beautiful house. But when I was younger,
Speaker 4: I was laying in my bed one night, and I
Speaker 4: have the habit of looking at my phone and seeing
Speaker 4: what time it is. So I look and marked the time,
Speaker 4: and then I turn over, and not moments later, I
Speaker 4: heard in my ear super loud, and I didn't think
Speaker 4: much of it because I just I dismissed things very easily.
Speaker 4: But then a few seconds later, so I sprung up,
Speaker 4: I turned around and grabbed my phone at only five
Speaker 4: minutes the past, so I knew I was in the sleep.
Speaker 4: I turned on all the lights in my house and
Speaker 4: went downstairs, turned on the TV, everything, and did not
Speaker 4: sleep in my room for a good month after that.
Speaker 4: It was terrifying.
Speaker 1: What kind of voice, Like, do you think that was
Speaker 1: a little ghost kid or what?
Speaker 4: I'm not sure it was. It was a whisper, but
Speaker 4: it was kind of an aggressive whisper, like just exactly
Speaker 4: how I did it. It burned into my brain.
Speaker 1: So, what's the history of that house?
Speaker 4: So it was the first example of like stick architecture Chicago,
Speaker 4: but it was built by a preacher, so built by
Speaker 4: a Catholic man. I'm not sure anything else that's happened
Speaker 4: in there, but I haven't really wanted to look into it. Honestly,
Speaker 4: I don't really want to know. But other than that,
Speaker 4: it's just a fairly normal, really old house.
Speaker 1: Did other things happen while you guys lived there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this one I think was slightly more drumbed
Speaker 4: other things because I did freak out. But I was
Speaker 4: going into our attic, which as very steep there is
Speaker 4: going up, and I was going to get a suitcase
Speaker 4: to go stay at my friend's cottage for a week.
Speaker 4: And I got up to like the third or fourth there,
Speaker 4: and I heard really loud, stopping footsteps come up from
Speaker 4: behind me.
Speaker 1: Oh behind past me.
Speaker 4: Yes, this was six in the morning. Nobody else was awake,
Speaker 4: and I turned around. There was nobody there, and I
Speaker 4: sprinted down the stairs and I went immediately into my parents' room,
Speaker 4: following my eyes out. Please tell me one of you
Speaker 4: just try to mess with me, please please please. My
Speaker 4: parents are like stealing bag looking at me. What are
Speaker 4: you talking about? Please go back to that and oh,
Speaker 4: I don't make my dad go up there and get
Speaker 4: the suitcase for me because I could not.
Speaker 2: Go back up there.
Speaker 1: Are your parents still there?
Speaker 4: My parents? Yeah, we also live there. I actually there.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well keep me updated if you have
Speaker 1: some real spooky stuff happening.
Speaker 4: Oh, I hope that.
Speaker 1: There's a ghost in my house. Hi is this Patrick?
Speaker 3: It is? Is this raw?
Speaker 1: This is ros Hi Patrick?
Speaker 5: Where are you?
Speaker 3: I am very severely landlocked in the middle of Missouri.
Speaker 1: Wow, you're pretty experienced with ghosts.
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Say it again, You're pretty experienced with ghosts.
Speaker 3: I hear it right, pretty pretty much. I'm a I'm
Speaker 3: a giant nerd. I don't think anybody is an expert
Speaker 3: in it, but it's I'm a I call myself a
Speaker 3: para nerd quite often.
Speaker 1: So if they did consider people experts, would that be you?
Speaker 3: Uh No, not even then, because I fail at a
Speaker 3: lot of things, but I'm interested in Like, I try
Speaker 3: a lot of things, a lot of spirit communication techniques,
Speaker 3: and I get h you know, I move on from
Speaker 3: one thing to the next thing. You know. I read
Speaker 3: a book about channeling and then try that, and then
Speaker 3: I move on to this other thing and try that,
Speaker 3: and I fail at most of them. But I've I've
Speaker 3: you know, I've had some cool experiences.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean, nobody knows anything for sure, but
Speaker 1: that seems like you've had some evidence.
Speaker 3: Well I do. I get kind of OCD about it,
Speaker 3: so I get sucked into it. I've read a lot
Speaker 3: of books. I used to read a lot more before
Speaker 3: you know, smartphones became a thing.
Speaker 1: But wait, what's like the best book about ghosts? Because
Speaker 1: I've been trying to read a ton of books about them.
Speaker 1: Do you have any recommendations?
Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, I have so many recommendations. I kind
Speaker 3: of go to, you know, most of the books by
Speaker 3: psychics and mediums, which I am a sucker for. And
Speaker 3: the first one, the first book that did it for
Speaker 3: me was at book by James Van Prague, which is
Speaker 3: Ghosts among Us. And I don't know that that's necessarily
Speaker 3: the best one, but it was the first one for me.
Speaker 3: It really kind of started off what I've always called
Speaker 3: my spiritual shift, which like several people I've heard on
Speaker 3: your show that are either running away from some kind
Speaker 3: of dogma, you know, religious background. It was the first
Speaker 3: book that was kind of opened my eyes and I
Speaker 3: was like, Oh my gosh, so this is what is
Speaker 3: going on? And I all of a sudden didn't fear death,
Speaker 3: and I just then I started a fascination for me
Speaker 3: on you know, what is life like on the other side? Yeah,
Speaker 3: look like you know, what's my house going to look like?
Speaker 3: Do I get to design it? Do I get to
Speaker 3: you know, like I tell the questions never end?
Speaker 1: Okay, ghost among us, I'll check that out. Can you
Speaker 1: tell me your ghost story?
Speaker 3: I will tell you my ghost story. Are you ready?
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm ready? Creep me out.
Speaker 3: Okay. So, as we've already discussed, I I poke around
Speaker 3: the paranormal a lot, and especially four or five years ago,
Speaker 3: I was poking around a lot. I don't have a
Speaker 3: lot of experiences. I'm also a fairly skeptical person. I
Speaker 3: consider myself kind of fifty percent fifty percent. I wanted
Speaker 3: to be real and I'm looking for it all the time,
Speaker 3: and I'm obsessed with this idea of spirit communication. Well,
Speaker 3: four or five years ago, I was heavily involved in
Speaker 3: several events. So in one week, for example, I had
Speaker 3: been helping a family with some paranormal experiences in their home,
Speaker 3: and I was brought in to do some things with that.
Speaker 3: And so that had lasted a couple of days.
Speaker 4: What was happening to.
Speaker 3: Them, I'm sorry say it again.
Speaker 1: What was happening to them?
Speaker 3: They had some experience in what there were two teenage
Speaker 3: daughters in that house, and one of the daughters continued
Speaker 3: to have what they felt be beings come out of
Speaker 3: a closet in her bedroom. And they'd also had some
Speaker 3: experiences down their hallway. And it was one of those
Speaker 3: weird things, like it's not a historic house. It's just
Speaker 3: kind of a suburban seventies probably eighties family house, you know,
Speaker 3: two story houses. So I didn't have a lot of
Speaker 3: I didn't feel like I got a lot of experiences there.
Speaker 3: I had some what I think are evp there, but
Speaker 3: I think the experiences they had were not super comfortable
Speaker 3: to them, like nothing was really they just didn't like it.
Speaker 3: And so, and that was like two nights before the
Speaker 3: story that I'm getting ready to tell you. So I
Speaker 3: was doing that investigation, and I was also doing some
Speaker 3: seance experiments with a medium friend of mine, and I
Speaker 3: was organizing them. She was being the medium, but I
Speaker 3: was kind of guiding the event and putting together some
Speaker 3: topics and trying to reach out to specific people on
Speaker 3: the other side, and so I was just involved in
Speaker 3: a lot, and so I was tired. And there was
Speaker 3: a night where I was sleeping. My parents just happened
Speaker 3: to be in our home with us because they were visiting,
Speaker 3: and my husband and I are sleeping, and that day,
Speaker 3: I think we'd had one of those seance experiences. And
Speaker 3: it's in the middle of the night. I wake up.
Speaker 3: I'm on my Okay, this is dorky, but I have
Speaker 3: to explain it to you. So I'm on the right
Speaker 3: side of the bed, my husband's on the left, and
Speaker 3: I'm sleeping on my left side, so you know, I'm
Speaker 3: facing my husband, and I wake up just like instantly.
Speaker 3: And I would love to tell you it was three
Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning, because I know you love that,
Speaker 3: but I simply don't remember. So it was, but it
Speaker 3: was like in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1: We'll say it was.
Speaker 3: Sure, okay. And the first thing that I felt was
Speaker 3: I was really cold. I was really cold, and my
Speaker 3: heart was racing, and my analytical mind was telling me, okay.
Speaker 3: I instantly started thinking of reasons why I could feel
Speaker 3: this way. First of all, it was weird that I
Speaker 3: just woke up immediately in the middle of the night,
Speaker 3: and I started thinking, we like, am I having a
Speaker 3: heart attack? Like, you know, are men not supposed to
Speaker 3: sleep on whatever side? Or is my arm falling asleep?
Speaker 3: And am I getting ready to you know? Do I
Speaker 3: need to call nine to one? What's going on? But
Speaker 3: then that kind of shifted to fear a little bit,
Speaker 3: and I could just tell that even though I had
Speaker 3: never had an experience like this, I could tell that
Speaker 3: something was in the room with me. I could It
Speaker 3: wasn't a very good feeling. And so I start in
Speaker 3: my mind, I'm thinking, oh, imagine the white light, ah,
Speaker 3: imagine the angels bring him down, protect me. And all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, roz omg. All of a sudden, a
Speaker 3: hand grabs me on my right shoulder. So I'm on
Speaker 3: my left side, thinking this through with my husband, and
Speaker 3: a hand reaches over the bed and I instinctively, and
Speaker 3: I know people are going to think I'm Craig Gray.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm not a great, great person. I
Speaker 3: instinctively grab for this hand and I grab the hand,
Speaker 3: I feel the hand.
Speaker 1: I did a cold.
Speaker 3: Dead feeling hand, and it retreats as I grab for it,
Speaker 3: and so I'm so shocked and I immediately get kind
Speaker 3: of pulled to my back. So I went from my
Speaker 3: side to my back, And of course, now I'm freaking
Speaker 3: out a little bit, because you know, every kid's nightmare
Speaker 3: in the world that something's under your bed and grabs
Speaker 3: for you. But I start thinking, Oh, I'm sitting there
Speaker 3: going okay, what just happened? Am I awake?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: My gosh, yes, I'm pretty sure I'm awake. I'm like
Speaker 3: pinching myself, and I'm also trying not to wake up
Speaker 3: my husband because he rolls his eyes with this kind
Speaker 3: of thing.
Speaker 1: But you're not feeling like you weren't feeling sleep paralysis, right.
Speaker 3: No, And I've heard you talk about that a lot,
Speaker 3: and I've discussed that on my show a lot, and
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what I think about that altogether. I
Speaker 3: don't know, like there's this sleep hypnagogic state of your
Speaker 3: sleep and hypnopompic state, you know, when you're coming in
Speaker 3: and out of sleep. Could it have been that possibly?
Speaker 3: But I was pretty damn awake.
Speaker 1: Did you contact with the hand, like, did you actually
Speaker 1: grab the hand or it pulled away?
Speaker 3: My left hand reached over to my right shoulder and
Speaker 3: grabbed the hand as it retreated. I know it was cold,
Speaker 3: and I could feel it retreating intuitively, and I'm not
Speaker 3: saying I'm an intuitive person at all, but intuitively, I
Speaker 3: remember it as like a cold, black hand, like a
Speaker 3: dead hand.
Speaker 1: Was it wrinkly? And so what was it wrinkly?
Speaker 3: It was kind of wrinkly. Yeah, And so I'm lying
Speaker 3: there in my bed and I don't get chicken often
Speaker 3: when it comes to ghosts. I get chicken when it
Speaker 3: comes to real people. But I didn't get out of bed,
Speaker 3: and I'm still ashamed of myself for that. And what
Speaker 3: I did was I grabbed my iPhone and I turned
Speaker 3: it to the recorder the voice memos, and I pressed record.
Speaker 3: And you know, my parents were in the house with me,
Speaker 3: my husband was sleeping. I was like, I am not
Speaker 3: about to cause a scene, and so I just hold
Speaker 3: it up into the air and I'm like.
Speaker 5: Is there anybody here?
Speaker 3: Anybody want to talk with me? For like five minutes
Speaker 3: and the next day I didn't hear anything, but oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, I've never ever had anything like that happen.
Speaker 3: And of course I think it's cool because I'm always
Speaker 3: poking my nose around looking for stuff like this, but
Speaker 3: it's just weird. I've always told people that I've never
Speaker 3: believed in like demons, and I'm not sure what I
Speaker 3: think about real negative I mean, I think negative people
Speaker 3: can become negative ghosts. But it's just bizarre. And did
Speaker 3: I carry that home with me because of all of
Speaker 3: this stuff that I was involved in, either the family's
Speaker 3: house that I was helping with, or was it something
Speaker 3: from a seance?
Speaker 1: Who were you contacting?
Speaker 3: We at the seance were contacting like mediums and people
Speaker 3: like experts in spirit communication who have passed on over
Speaker 3: the years, So I'm not sure what you like people
Speaker 3: groundbreaking researchers and mediums over the years. I don't even
Speaker 3: remember some of the name that we had reached out to.
Speaker 3: And nothing really hugely eventful happened there either, So that's
Speaker 3: the other thing that's weird. It's like, I don't feel
Speaker 3: like anything really happened to both of these things.
Speaker 5: But that's what I think.
Speaker 1: I think. I hear these stories often where people are
Speaker 1: doing seances, they're doing Ouiji boards, and then nothing happens
Speaker 1: until the middle of the night right later, and I'm telling.
Speaker 3: I'm telling, I've been at a wija board for years.
Speaker 5: I did.
Speaker 3: I'm not one of those people that experimented with it
Speaker 3: growing up. You know, everybody has that one party that
Speaker 3: sleepover where they had the Ouiji board, and that that
Speaker 3: wasn't me. And a good friend of mine is a
Speaker 3: ouija expert who you should totally talk to you, by
Speaker 3: the way, Karen A Dolman, and she's kind of guided
Speaker 3: me through doing some ouija board stuff. But for five
Speaker 3: or six years, I sat at the ouija board countless
Speaker 3: times and for hours nothing ever happened. Nothing. So like
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying, Like I fail at these things
Speaker 3: a lot, but I really badly want things to happen. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that night it did. I just didn't plan on
Speaker 3: it happening in that way.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: I think that sometimes you know they're not going to
Speaker 1: be there on commands, Like you can't always just call
Speaker 1: someone and they answer. So it's like you, who knows,
Speaker 1: I don't know how ghosts work. Maybe they were in
Speaker 1: the bathroom when you were doing the Ouigi board and
Speaker 1: that a couple hours later, you know they've washed their
Speaker 1: hands and they're like, hey, remember how you wanted to
Speaker 1: hang out with me, and then they put their hand
Speaker 1: on you.
Speaker 3: God, I hope they washed their hands, I know. But
Speaker 3: you know, I've always said too that I never want
Speaker 3: to assume. I hate when people talk about like, oh,
Speaker 3: it was a shadow person, and thanks to paranormal TV,
Speaker 3: we hear shadow person and we think, oh, it's a
Speaker 3: demon and we've got to get rid of it. And
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, how how do you know that it's
Speaker 3: not aunt? You know, Bertha, And that's the only way
Speaker 3: she could muster up enough energy to reach out to you.
Speaker 3: And then of course if you slip out and freak
Speaker 3: out over it and are convinced it's a demon, well
Speaker 3: then of course she's gonna think, oh, never mind, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna freak him out. I'm not going to try to
Speaker 3: reach out anymore. So I don't know what this was
Speaker 3: with me interpreting it wrong, or maybe it was a relative.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: You could have been or it could have been a
Speaker 1: shady person, and that's the only way they could manifest
Speaker 1: being a shadow.
Speaker 3: Or or really processing some weirdo dreams from being a
Speaker 3: middle school teacher. Some scary stuff there too.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure I can only imagine. Hi is this Christian?
Speaker 5: This is Hi?
Speaker 1: This is Ro's dress fleas.
Speaker 5: Nice to talk to you, Rob.
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 5: I'm living the dream? Ooh, where are you South Bend, Indiana?
Speaker 1: Oh? Interesting? Have you been to that Demon House? Do
Speaker 1: you know about that demon House from that Zach Baggins documentary?
Speaker 5: Ooh no, I don't.
Speaker 1: I forget where it is. It might be in like
Speaker 1: Gary or something. But there's like this super spooky there's
Speaker 1: a documentary about it. But we're not here to plug that.
Speaker 1: I want to hear about your ghost story.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I was listening to your last Listener episode
Speaker 5: and for some reason, I was just I had to
Speaker 5: send this to you. I have my own podcast and
Speaker 5: I haven't even shared it on my own podcast yet
Speaker 5: because I'm a little bit of an emotional person. So
Speaker 5: I'm trying to figure out how to do this right.
Speaker 5: But I was roach to you about my grandmother because
Speaker 5: I was very much a grandma's boy, spend this much
Speaker 5: time with her as I could, and uh, when I
Speaker 5: graduated high school, they moved to Missouri and it was
Speaker 5: just a couple of years after that that she ended
Speaker 5: up passing away. But when I was a little boy.
Speaker 5: She used to hold me and rock me and rub
Speaker 5: my back and my head like Grandma's do, and tell
Speaker 5: me that I had gypsy in me. And I had
Speaker 5: no clue what that meant, but that's what she would
Speaker 5: say to me. And as I got a little older
Speaker 5: and I figured out what the gypsy culture was and
Speaker 5: all of that, I said to my brother, I was like,
Speaker 5: you remember when Grandma used to say we had gypsy
Speaker 5: in us? And he was like, she never said anything
Speaker 5: like that to me, and I was like, that's weird. So,
Speaker 5: you know, fast forward several years. It's about a year
Speaker 5: after she passed away. And she was always super into Christmas,
Speaker 5: and so I think that made me super into Christmas.
Speaker 5: I love overdoing lights on the outside, overdoing things on
Speaker 5: the inside of the house. And it's kind of my
Speaker 5: little homage to her. But I was in my dorm room,
Speaker 5: uh in college, and my roommate was away at home,
Speaker 5: and she appeared before me. Uh huh. It was I
Speaker 5: couldn't see her face, I couldn't make out details. My
Speaker 5: grandma was a big lady, and she wore the colored mumoo.
Speaker 5: I could see the moo moo. I could see the
Speaker 5: shape of her. I could see the shape of her face,
Speaker 5: but I couldn't make out any distinguishing facial features or
Speaker 5: anything like that. And she asked me to pass on
Speaker 5: some Christmas gifts for.
Speaker 1: Was this like in the middle of the night or
Speaker 1: what were you doing?
Speaker 3: This is midday.
Speaker 5: I was sitting watching TV. I don't even remember what
Speaker 5: I was watching at the time, but I was just
Speaker 5: watching a show in the middle of the day. I
Speaker 5: wasn't doing anything. I was just hanging out in my
Speaker 5: dorm room. And that stopped like that was the first thing.
Speaker 5: Was my TV like shut off. And then she started
Speaker 5: to appear before me, and so, being a good student,
Speaker 5: I had paper and pencil nearby. She told me who
Speaker 5: she wanted messages for, and she had these, excuse me,
Speaker 5: very specific things that she wanted said, and so I
Speaker 5: started writing them down as quickly as I could. And
Speaker 5: then when she got down and give me a message,
Speaker 5: she just kind of faded away, and then ROZ the
Speaker 5: TV turned on back on and the show was exactly
Speaker 5: where it left off. Who. So it was like time stopped.
Speaker 4: WHOA.
Speaker 5: Now my wife tells me that I'm full of it,
Speaker 5: but I swear this truly happened so and so I
Speaker 5: decided to pass on these messages. And the first thing
Speaker 5: I do is I call my uncle who moved to
Speaker 5: Missouri with my grandmother and now both my grandparents are
Speaker 5: deceased at this point, and I said, don said Uncle Blad.
Speaker 5: I said, this is gonna sound really crazy. I gotta
Speaker 5: tell you something. Grandma came to me and he just
Speaker 5: goes huh. And I was like, she told me to
Speaker 5: tell you to relax. He goes, oh, okay, like he
Speaker 5: completely understood what I was saying. And that freaked me out.
Speaker 5: So then I was like, well, the next logical person
Speaker 5: tells her other child, which is my mom. And I
Speaker 5: saw I go home one night one time around Christmas,
Speaker 5: I said, Mom, I said, I called uncle Bud.
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you as well.
Speaker 5: Grandma came to me and she told me that she
Speaker 5: wants you to know that she wants you to have
Speaker 5: a merry x miss And she was very very precise
Speaker 5: that I couldn't say Christmas. I had to tell you Xmas.
Speaker 5: And my mom lost it, just sobbing and said, when
Speaker 5: I was a little girl, she always wrote Xmas on
Speaker 5: Christmas cards. She would never write out Christmas. And she
Speaker 5: said so that's definitely a sign I completely believe you.
Speaker 5: And at this point I was really freaked out. Like
Speaker 5: I said, I was an emotional person. I think I
Speaker 5: probably went and cried for a little while. And then
Speaker 5: I went to my brother and I was like, I'm sorry, man,
Speaker 5: I lost the list. Grandma had a message for you,
Speaker 5: but I don't have it, and he goes, that's why
Speaker 5: she told you had gypsy in you, and I was like,
Speaker 5: he's right, so gosh, and so you know, I thought
Speaker 5: that was just the end of it, like I passed
Speaker 5: on these messages. But it was just later that year
Speaker 5: that my girlfriend was playing with a Wuiji board at
Speaker 5: the how she lived at, and I decided I was
Speaker 5: gonna go over there for the evening and hang out
Speaker 5: with everybody at her house. And so I knew they
Speaker 5: were doing this, so I quietly snuck in and just
Speaker 5: kind of stood like there were probably twenty people surrounding
Speaker 5: the board. There were two or three people on the
Speaker 5: board holding the pointer, and the board starts spelling out
Speaker 5: the moment I get there, Hello Chris. Now nobody at
Speaker 5: this point called me Chris because I became Christian while
Speaker 5: I was in college, and so everybody's like, who's Chris,
Speaker 5: who's this Chris? Like, there's nobody here. His name is Chris,
Speaker 5: but my grandmother used to call me Chris. So again
Speaker 5: a little freaked out, I kind of left. Nobody knew
Speaker 5: I was there. I just went ahead and left. And
Speaker 5: then nothing happened then, so that was a gosh, what
Speaker 5: maybe two thousand. Nothing had happened until this last Christmas.
Speaker 5: This time, I was definitely sleeping and I had a
Speaker 5: dream that my grandfather, her husband, my grandpa John, had
Speaker 5: come to visit me, and I was just talking to him,
Speaker 5: catching him up on what they missed, and then he
Speaker 5: says to me, hey, kid, did you hear Grandma's back?
Speaker 5: And I gotta go, And then I woke up immediately
Speaker 5: sobbing because he was just there. So I don't know
Speaker 5: what that meant, that Grandma's back, but that is my
Speaker 5: grandma portion of story. I have other ghost stories, but
Speaker 5: I wasn't a haunted house here in South Bend not
Speaker 5: long ago.
Speaker 1: But wait, I want to hear those two.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just briefly, I was recording my own podcast. I
Speaker 5: do a beer podcast, craft beer podcast. We have a
Speaker 5: local one, so STUDI Baker cars were based out of
Speaker 5: South Bend and they built a mansion. The family did
Speaker 5: that owned it called the Typic a New Place and
Speaker 5: it's still standing and they put a brewery in it.
Speaker 5: So we were recording there and they, uh, and so
Speaker 5: they said, would you mind coming in at night? We
Speaker 5: know it's a little bit freaky around here at night,
Speaker 5: but would you guys mind coming in after hours? They're like, absolutely,
Speaker 5: I'll come in after hours. Like you could give me
Speaker 5: the keys, I'll go in by myself.
Speaker 3: But uh.
Speaker 5: One of the things that happens there is up on
Speaker 5: the third floor. They call it the ballroom. Up on
Speaker 5: the third floor, there's allegedly a ghost that likes to
Speaker 5: help people. It was a servant at the house, and
Speaker 5: it'll bring people like there's people who said they've been
Speaker 5: in a stall and they run out of toilet paper
Speaker 5: and then all a sudden, paper towel will appear by
Speaker 5: their feet and different things like this. So we're getting
Speaker 5: ready to leave and nothing had happened the entire time
Speaker 5: we were there, and I was like, Hey, I can
Speaker 5: use the restroom. Could you point me in the direction.
Speaker 5: They're like, go up to the third floor, and I'm like,
Speaker 5: that's the ballroom. That's where one of the ghosts are at,
Speaker 5: and they go all the lights off, so use your
Speaker 5: cell phone light. Oh they're sending me. Yeah right, they're
Speaker 5: sending me into a haunted area where there's no lights on,
Speaker 5: and then they're trying to explain to me where the
Speaker 5: light switch is at. And that wasn't happening. I wasn't
Speaker 5: gonna be able to find that. So I go up
Speaker 5: to the top of the stairs and roz there was
Speaker 5: one light on. It was the men's room light. I
Speaker 5: believe the ghosts turned on the light help me find where.
Speaker 3: I was going.
Speaker 1: Well that's a nice ghost right, Well, I think my
Speaker 1: belief though, Yeah, it could be way worse.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh god.
Speaker 1: But still I'd be so scared to be in a
Speaker 1: place I knew was haunted and I'd have to use
Speaker 1: my flashlight.
Speaker 5: It was a little weird, like I was like, no
Speaker 5: one's gonna walk me up there and flip on a light,
Speaker 5: like they know where they're going.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 5: But it doesn't scare me because I don't think. I
Speaker 5: don't think most ghosts are here to hurt us. I
Speaker 5: think a lot don't know that they're still here. Then
Speaker 5: there's a lot that do want to help people like
Speaker 5: they're just so, it's not my belief that many want
Speaker 5: to hurt us. There's obviously demons, but I think the
Speaker 5: majority of them are just here and they're not sure
Speaker 5: what to do with it yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean you've had some very lovely encounters
Speaker 1: with ghosts. It sounds like true, it's true, that's true.
Speaker 5: I am lucky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope it stays that way because I mean,
Speaker 1: I also have never really had any militious encounters with
Speaker 1: got but they're at there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are.
Speaker 5: I did have one that I thought hit me with
Speaker 5: a door one time at one of my friend my
Speaker 5: wife's friends' houses. As we walked in. They told us
Speaker 5: the door and naturally fall open, but somehow I got
Speaker 5: hit by it as I was walking in, and my
Speaker 5: wife was like, sure, the ghost was trying to keep
Speaker 5: you out. I was like, no, that's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying maybe it wanted us to know that
Speaker 5: it was.
Speaker 1: There, Like they had a confirmed ghost there.
Speaker 3: That y'all.
Speaker 5: So their stories like like just you saying that made
Speaker 5: all the hairs on my arms stand up. They heard
Speaker 5: people walking up and down their stairs. Their dog wouldn't
Speaker 5: go into the hallway that went led up to the bedrooms,
Speaker 5: kitchen cabinets and stuff opening up and things falling out,
Speaker 5: and it was They never had anybody investigate, which I
Speaker 5: always thought was weird.
Speaker 1: But do they still live there.
Speaker 5: They don't. I'm disappointed by that.
Speaker 3: I want to go back.
Speaker 5: They didn't tell us that they thought it was haunted
Speaker 5: till they moved out.
Speaker 1: After all that stuff happened, pots and pants, find out,
Speaker 1: dog not wanting to go places, doors, hitting people.
Speaker 5: Right, and you're going to invite us over for dinner
Speaker 5: and not tell us that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't live in that chaos. Well, thanks so
Speaker 1: much for talking with me. These are great stories. Thank
Speaker 1: you to all of our listeners, and again I would
Speaker 1: love to talk to you in the future. So if
Speaker 1: you have a ghost story that you'd like to tell
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Speaker 1: me this weekend in ox Nard, you know I'm there
Speaker 1: every month. I'll be back this weekend celebrating Valentine's Day
Speaker 1: weekend and that will be on what is this weekend?
Speaker 1: I guess it's the sixteenth. I'll be there this Sunday.
Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.
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