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Speaker 3: Hey is the Cleveland Browns Preview Show Your chance to

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Speaker 3: get an in depth preview of the week ahead in Maria.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network.

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Speaker 3: Here are your hosts, kN Carman named Girard Cherry.

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Speaker 4: Eight months passing the blink of an eye, and we

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Speaker 4: welcome you to the very first Cleveland Brown's preview show

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Speaker 4: of the twenty twenty three season. Good evening friends, Ken

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Speaker 4: Carman alongside of Gerrod Cherry, and we welcome you getting

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Speaker 4: ready because Girard, we gotta put on all our finery

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Speaker 4: this weekend. Buddy, we got one of the bells of

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Speaker 4: the ball. Getting ready for the twenty twenty three NFL

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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame and Shriman at the Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 4: of Fame. As Joe Thomas will go into the hall

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Speaker 4: seven point fifteen. But Girard, we are just a couple

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Speaker 1: Hey, you should because football is officially here and we

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Speaker 4: And it's time to get going because it's time for

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Speaker 5: There I go.

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Speaker 4: We're not able to start out of the box. But

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Speaker 4: to the twenty twenty three season and recapping a big offseason,

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Speaker 4: Maybe Gerard was at the coaches, Jim Schwartz, Bubba van Trone,

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Speaker 1: No doubt about it. And I'm glad you phrased a

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Speaker 4: Week in the camp nine days with the Greenbrier, the

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Speaker 1: My thoughts on the entire team? Was that on because one,

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Speaker 1: Well, it's really simple. Whenever you've been designated as a

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 4: Are you going to sleep well on Sunday? Probably through Monday,

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Speaker 2: there is plenty of ups and downs, and in those

437
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Speaker 2: down moments, maybe you don't want to talk about your day.

438
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Speaker 2: Maybe on a Saturday, my leg's hurt and I don't

439
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 2: want to go walk around the mall just because I

440
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,880
Speaker 2: got the day off. And so I think that support

441
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Speaker 2: that I got from her at home was second to none,

442
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Speaker 2: and it was a huge part of me being able

443
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Speaker 2: to go out and give my teammates and the fans

444
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Speaker 2: absolutely the best that I can and give them. And

445
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Speaker 2: then once the kids came along, they were such a

446
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Speaker 2: huge part of my why. And I talked to youth

447
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 2: groups and I talked to youth football teams, and I

448
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 2: always say, like, you just got to find your why,

449
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 2: your reason that is more than just self serving about

450
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Speaker 2: why you're going to go out and dig deep in

451
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Speaker 2: those moments when it's tough, because that's the difference really

452
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 2: between greatness and being just an okay player is when

453
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 2: things get tough, how you're able to dig down inside

454
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Speaker 2: of yourself and get better than you even thought was possible.

455
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Speaker 2: And for me it was. You know, the end of

456
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Speaker 2: my career, we struggled like we did not have many wins.

457
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys probably don't know much about that,

458
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Speaker 2: But for two years we won one game, and it

459
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 2: was a tough task to get everything you got to

460
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 2: every game and every practice and study the way you

461
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Speaker 2: should even though the season was already lost, like sticking

462
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Speaker 2: around till six thirty or seven at night and watching

463
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Speaker 2: film because I felt like I owed it to my teammates,

464
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Speaker 2: I owed it to the fans to give everything I got,

465
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Speaker 2: no matter what the odds were. And it was not easy.

466
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Speaker 2: But when I went home after a tough game, whether

467
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 2: I didn't play my best or we lost again, and

468
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Speaker 2: I did play my best, and I felt like I

469
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Speaker 2: didn't have any impact on the outcome because of my position.

470
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Speaker 2: And you walk through that door and you're dejected, but

471
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, your four year old daughter she

472
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Speaker 2: runs up and she gives you a big hug, and

473
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Speaker 2: she lifts you up, and she gives you that reason

474
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Speaker 2: to continue on. That was such a key part of

475
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Speaker 2: the second half of my career, and so that's why

476
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Speaker 2: for me it was a no brainer when I found

477
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Speaker 2: out that now the presenter gets to do a video

478
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Speaker 2: that's recorded in advance, so I don't have to stand

479
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Speaker 2: my kids up there and have them give us speech

480
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Speaker 2: in front of twenty five thousand people, which I'm not

481
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Speaker 2: sure how that would go, because we all know the

482
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Speaker 2: ones of us that have had kids like they can

483
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Speaker 2: be really great at home, but all of a sudden

484
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Speaker 2: you put them on the stage, there's a lot of

485
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Speaker 2: stags right there. So it was really special for me

486
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Speaker 2: to be able to tell them that because they were

487
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Speaker 2: the biggest part of my NFL career and they were

488
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Speaker 2: the reason why all those years. To be able to

489
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Speaker 2: have them as a person center, it was so special

490
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Speaker 2: and so emotional, and I'm so excited for that day

491
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Speaker 2: to see him up there with me and Joe.

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Speaker 1: That's excellent. And I said it earlier, and I'll say,

493
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Speaker 1: why we have you on air with us? That what

494
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Speaker 1: you went through far as the losing and be able

495
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Speaker 1: to display that level excellence unless you play the game,

496
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Speaker 1: people really can't comprehend how much and how herculean that

497
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Speaker 1: type of effort is. So again, I'll applaud you, man,

498
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Speaker 1: because I get it. I understand how it is losing

499
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Speaker 1: what you feel like afterwards. With that being said, Joe,

500
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Speaker 1: as soon as you found out what was going to

501
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Speaker 1: happen with you in the Hall of Fame, when did

502
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Speaker 1: you start thinking about your speech and what you wanted

503
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Speaker 1: to convey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so obviously that's the big question everybody wants to

505
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Speaker 2: talk about. Is you know the speech the speech? Did

506
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Speaker 2: you do the speech? Did you have help with the speech?

507
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: Who helped you write it? Like? Are you nervous? Because

508
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 2: that is kind of the moment that people are going

509
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Speaker 2: to remember for a long time. And so for me,

510
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Speaker 2: the biggest thing was, all right, you get you know,

511
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Speaker 2: seven or eight minutes, what do you want to convey?

512
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Speaker 2: What's your number one message? And you always want to have, like,

513
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 2: you know, some humor in there. You want to have

514
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Speaker 2: a nice message if there's kids listening, or maybe people

515
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 2: that aren't even football people but they want to take

516
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Speaker 2: something away. But more than anything, I just want to

517
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Speaker 2: express the gratitude to the fan base in Cleveland, to

518
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: my coaches, my teammates, my family and friends that were

519
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Speaker 2: a huge part of that process from when I started

520
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Speaker 2: playing football for the Junior Lanswers in seventh grade through

521
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Speaker 2: my eleventh season for the Cleveland Browns, because especially as

522
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Speaker 2: a lineman, like there's so much gratitude to my heart,

523
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Speaker 2: because I could not have been here on the doorstep

524
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Speaker 2: of being enshrined in the Hall of Fame without all

525
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Speaker 2: of those people, without the Browns fans who continually showed

526
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Speaker 2: up and gave us that energy, gave us that motivation,

527
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 2: gave us that reason why we should go out and

528
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Speaker 2: give our best effort. Which as a fan, it's just

529
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: as hard to show up when your team stinks, to

530
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Speaker 2: continue to wear that orange and brown. And I get that.

531
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Speaker 2: You know now that I'm a full time fan, I'm

532
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Speaker 2: not playing anymore football. It's tough when your team is losing.

533
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Speaker 2: But Browns fans they always stuck with it. They always

534
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 2: stuck with our team. They stuck with me personally, and

535
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Speaker 2: for me expressing that thankfulness, that gratitude, that's the number

536
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Speaker 2: one thing I hope we can convey on Saturday.

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Speaker 4: Joe, You're a pleasure as always. We can't thank you

538
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Speaker 4: enough for the time as always, have a wonderful week.

539
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Speaker 4: We look forward to talking to you on Saturday. Down

540
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Speaker 4: and Canton Buddy.

541
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Speaker 2: Thanks Sered, Thanks Ken. I appreciate you guys having me

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Speaker 2: on tonight.

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Speaker 4: Thank you Joe Thomas, Hall of Famer joining us live

544
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Speaker 4: on this show tonight as we get you ready for

545
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Speaker 4: Thursday night against the New York Jets and Hall of

546
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Speaker 4: Fame game, and then Saturday the Hall of Fame enshrinement

547
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Speaker 4: down and can When we come back, we'll take a

548
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Speaker 4: preview of the AFC and NFC East where the NFL

549
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Speaker 4: networks may be thinking there's a slide coming for the Fish.

550
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Speaker 4: We'll preview it coming up next on the Cleveland Browns

551
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Speaker 4: Preview show on the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network.

552
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Speaker 2: This is Brown's quarterback, just Sean Watson, This.

553
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Speaker 6: Is Brown's kicker Cage or this is whya teller, and

554
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Speaker 6: you are listening to the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network.

555
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 6: University Hospitals is your hometown medical team and official healthcare

556
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Speaker 6: provider for the Cleveland Browns.

557
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Speaker 4: Well, I wouldn't call it necessarily going around the FC

558
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Speaker 4: North and going around the league right now, they're gerrat

559
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Speaker 4: even though I am looking forward to it, and we're

560
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Speaker 4: gonna do that coming up in the next segment, but

561
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Speaker 4: we have to preview some divisions here and we get

562
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Speaker 4: to the AFC and the NFC East to start things off,

563
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Speaker 4: because remember we have four preview shows this year, as

564
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Speaker 4: we could get ready for the Jets and then we'll

565
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Speaker 4: get ready for Washington, Philly and everybody else. Is going

566
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Speaker 4: to be a lot of fun. But we start off

567
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Speaker 4: with some factor fiction here. First, the Bill's window under

568
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 4: this current regime factor fiction to contend for a championship

569
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Speaker 4: has closed. Not Josh Allen's window, but the team's window

570
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Speaker 4: as they are currently constructed. Fact or fiction, Friend.

571
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Speaker 1: I am going to go with fact. Something's not right

572
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Speaker 1: in Buffalo. And the reason why I say that is

573
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Speaker 1: you got Leslie Fraser, one of the nicest human beings

574
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Speaker 1: you can find on the face of the earth, who's

575
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Speaker 1: involved in the National Football League, says he would rather

576
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Speaker 1: go be a consultant somewhere than stay on the squad.

577
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Speaker 1: That didn't sit quite right with me. And then you

578
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 1: look at Diggs. I mean, dude, you have made it

579
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: deep into the playoffs and you're not happy and have

580
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: you really addressed your running back issue quite right yet?

581
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Speaker 1: So and we saw what happened once Vaughn got hurt

582
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Speaker 1: and he's up there in age. So I think the

583
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 1: windows closed. Now can the Dolphins or the Jets do

584
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Speaker 1: what's necessary to surpass them. I'd actually say yes and

585
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Speaker 1: say yes and further on cubmentute the window was closed.

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Speaker 4: Uh, I don't think so. I think that this is

587
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Speaker 4: the year that they can strike now. Their offense. Their

588
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 4: offense just looks. I mean, we make such a big

589
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Speaker 4: deal here, and I'm as guilty as anybody here. I

590
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 4: do fall under the spell that I mean, Nick Chubb's

591
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Speaker 4: not trying to cast a spell on me, but I

592
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 4: fall fall under the spell of you know what, Nick

593
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Speaker 4: Chubb to get more carries and more carries and being

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Speaker 4: able to run the football. And I look up in

595
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Speaker 4: Buffalo and I'm like, man, they would kill to have

596
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Speaker 4: a running back to just take some of the heat

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Speaker 4: off of Josh Allen. I mean, the design runs that

598
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Speaker 4: they have. I'm just thinking, I know he's a stallion,

599
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Speaker 4: but you're gonna get that guy really hurt and he

600
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 4: played with an injury last year. I think that this

601
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 4: is probably the last hurrah, as this team is currently compromised.

602
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Speaker 4: I thought that I defended Stefan Diggs after the playoff game.

603
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Speaker 4: I thought that he was a passionate man, and I

604
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Speaker 4: still think that there's passion there. But some stinks if

605
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Speaker 4: they're not able to get this thing done, and I

606
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Speaker 4: think there could be a separation coming up here very soon.

607
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Speaker 4: And now people are calling for your guy, Jerad and

608
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Speaker 4: and Sean McDermott up there wondering if he is the

609
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Speaker 4: guy that can get them over the hump. And we've

610
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Speaker 4: seen before in the NFL there's guys that to take

611
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Speaker 4: guys to a certain level and then maybe they need

612
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Speaker 4: somebody to finish it off. I'm not sure I like

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Speaker 4: Sean McDermott. I'm sure you like Sean McDermott. I'm sure

614
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Speaker 4: you might get a little defensive of HM out here

615
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Speaker 4: you out on that, but uh, I think that maybe

616
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Speaker 4: next year is the time to have that conversation. I

617
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 4: still think they got a crack at it this season.

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Speaker 1: Drive right. I don't think Little Red is the problem.

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Speaker 1: And they probably said, who the hell is little Red?

620
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Speaker 1: Well that's what well. Annie Reid is called big Red.

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Speaker 1: Mc dermott was called little Red because he was always

622
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Speaker 1: around him. With that being said, when I play with

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, I don't think he's the problem. And on

624
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: time about the way in which he handled the Hamling

625
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: situation lets me know that he's not the issuing problem.

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Speaker 1: It's just something going on with this team. Because, like

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Speaker 1: I said, that little tantrum and it was even little

628
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: that digs through that speaks volume to me, Like you

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Speaker 1: don't talk to your quarterback for a couple of months.

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Speaker 1: I understand guys want their separation, but when you're the

631
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Speaker 1: wide receiver, the number one guy, the alpha receiver, and

632
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Speaker 1: you're not talking to a QB, that's that level acrimony.

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Speaker 1: It can get removed because dudes can forget and move forward.

634
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Speaker 1: But I also know too that once those things start

635
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Speaker 1: going AWRYE, that you'll start pointing fingers again if you

636
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: never truly work it out. And I fear for the

637
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: Bills that that going to be the issuing problem this season.

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Speaker 4: I really I think I agree with you on a

639
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Speaker 4: lot of that. I just think that I lucked at

640
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Speaker 4: that this way with Golden State in basketball for so

641
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 4: many years, a team that that is that good can

642
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 4: can make other teams feel the pressure and have a

643
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 4: tendency to overcorrect and make mistakes and break up those teams,

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Speaker 4: And I wonder if Buffalo's dealing with that right now

645
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Speaker 4: with Kansas City, I mean, you're dealing with He's definitely

646
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Speaker 4: gonna be the best of the generation to play the position,

647
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Speaker 4: probably and Patrick Mahomes and could end up being the

648
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Speaker 4: best to ever do it by the time it's all

649
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Speaker 4: said and done, the level of success that they've seen,

650
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Speaker 4: and I think that Buffalo would be better served to

651
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Speaker 4: take care of their business first. But when you put

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Speaker 4: that type of pressure on a football team, knowing that

653
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 4: Kansas City and going anywhere, they're big and bad and

654
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 4: they're going to be right around the corner lurkering for

655
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 4: everybody there, I think that that tends to put a

656
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 4: lot of pressure on teams. I wonder if if Cincinnati

657
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 4: if they feel that heat because of what happened with

658
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 4: Kansas City in the postseason last year. But that's another

659
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 4: con for when we go around the AFC North coming

660
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 4: up here in a couple of weeks. Factor fiction, Aaron

661
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 4: Rodgers is still a top five quarterback in this league.

662
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: Go yeah, I don't, and I don't see how I

663
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: do with his cow or quarterback play in fresh off

664
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Speaker 1: winning with an MVP with a year or two ago

665
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: that you put him the fiftieth ranked player in the

666
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: National Football League. That's absurd to me. And I'm and

667
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: he granted he with the cow so I'll give him

668
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: some love. But for me, for people to say that

669
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: he's the fiftieth best player, that's just crazy to me.

670
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: So no, I'm gonna give Aaron Rodgers his right due,

671
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: and that the dude is a top five quarterback. Who know?

672
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: Can he still I'll ask you, can he still throw

673
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,479
Speaker 1: the football effectively? Is he still mobile?

674
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 4: I think he can. I think he can't. The argument's well,

675
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: he fell off a little bit last year. Well he's

676
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 4: falling off of two MVP seasons. What's real with the guy?

677
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're not playing to an m VP level,

678
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 4: there's only there. They only give away one of them

679
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 4: knows it's it's pretty hard to do. So I still

680
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 4: think he's probably a top five quarterback in this league.

681
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 4: I just I think we're so focused on the incomes.

682
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 4: And we saw this with Peyton Manning. We wondered with Tom.

683
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 4: Tom still played pretty well and I know he was

684
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 4: beat up at the land.

685
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: And then I gotta stop him. Well this two things.

686
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 4: Hold on, Hold on hold on, hold on, hold on.

687
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 4: What I meant by pretty well is when you saw

688
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 4: Peyton Manning at the end, you knew he was a

689
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 4: shell of his former self. Tom was never a shell

690
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 4: of his former self. That's what I meant by played

691
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 4: pretty well. Tom wasn't gonna be excuse me, I'm talking

692
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 4: to him like I was the one who cardpooled with him.

693
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 4: Tom Brady wasn't gonna be the same quarterback he was

694
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 4: when he was thirty, when he was forty.

695
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 5: Four years old.

696
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 4: That's all I was saying, carpool buddy, That's all I

697
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 4: was pointing out.

698
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 5: What was the other thing you gave me? Side eyes?

699
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: I gave you sign oye with this whole Patrick Mahomes narrative,

700
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is not surpassing what Tom Brady's done. So

701
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: let's get that straight too.

702
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 4: What well, Obviously I hope the Browns could get in

703
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: his way, But right now, I mean, the guy looks

704
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 4: it's like a juggernaut, Gerrod. I don't know what else

705
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 4: to tell you, bud Uh.

706
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: Potentially it's really you couldn't see the scoff I made

707
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: you when you said that.

708
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 5: No, I didn't.

709
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 4: I didn't to be honest with you, O though you're

710
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 4: you're kind of small in the screen right now, I

711
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 4: only have you on half the computer going on. Uh,

712
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 4: let me go further here, resigning factor fiction. Resigning Daniel

713
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 4: Jones was a mistake for the New York Giants.

714
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: Uh fiction. He played at a higher level. He really did.

715
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: What were they gonna find out there? He got them

716
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: to a place where they made the playoffs. Now, granted

717
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: sat Quanas and that forty million that you've given him

718
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: annually should someone that should be going my way, And

719
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: I get his argument that being Barkley, but no, give

720
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: Jones credit. Ken. He definitely played at a higher level

721
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: and improved. And you saw a similar situation take place

722
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: with Alan. Remember Allen's first year he wasn't that effective,

723
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: but when you think about him getting with Dabo and

724
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: what that did for his career, he took off after that,

725
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: and maybe the same thing would be the case for

726
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones.

727
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he. I think we saw the very

728
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 4: best to Daniel Jones. I'm trying. I'm gonna be nice

729
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 4: because I'm on the net work right now. I don't

730
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 4: think much of Daniel Jones at all, and I thought

731
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 4: they had to do what they had to do. There

732
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 4: wasn't a better quarterback out there in the market for them.

733
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 4: I know they could have tried to get Aaron Rodgers

734
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 4: if they wanted to. So I know I can't come

735
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 4: up with an alternative for what the Giants.

736
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 5: Had to do.

737
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 4: They had to do what they had to do, and

738
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 4: they had to sign Daniel Jones. But I'm sitting there thinking, boy,

739
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 4: you get forty million dollars a year to the backup

740
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 4: running back behind Sakuon Barkley. That's fantastic anyway. So I

741
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 4: think that I hate to say fiction because I think

742
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 4: it in true things in truth fashion. I think it's

743
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 4: fact because I don't think much of Daniel Jones as

744
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 4: a quarterback. But I'll go ahead and agree with you.

745
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 4: Because of that, and because of the circumstance, I'll say fiction.

746
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 4: Either neither or both. Either neither or both. Stefan Diggs

747
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 4: and Bill Belichick are both still with their current teams

748
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 4: one year from.

749
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: Now, either neither of both, either.

750
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 5: Neither of both. Stefan Diggs.

751
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go with the current either because

752
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: I could see a scenario where Diggs is certainly not

753
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: with the Bills and you keep hearing these reports that

754
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: and I think, I think it's kind of crazy, but

755
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: you never know. And Robert Craft could be like, you

756
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: know what, Bill, we had a good run. It was

757
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: twenty plus years. It's time to start all over. That's

758
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: always a possibility, hard press believe. So I'm gonna have

759
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: to say either.

760
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 4: I don't know how. I mean, if they can get like,

761
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 4: say they go eight to nine this year. Like I

762
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 4: saw Adam Rank had his AFC East predictions, he has

763
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 4: the Jets of very good thirteen and four. I think

764
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 4: he has Buffalo maybe nine and eight, the Dolphins at

765
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 4: eleven and six, and then he has the Patriots at

766
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 4: eight and nine. If they finish eight nine, maybe Bob

767
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 4: Kraft goes to Bill Belichick and him to step away.

768
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 4: But if he doesn't, I don't think Bob Kraft's gonna

769
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 4: fire him, now, you know better than I do.

770
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: Sorry me, Jonathan won't. That doesn't mean Jonathan won't do it.

771
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: I mean, ultimately can it may start like this?

772
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 5: Yeah?

773
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: Right, you're well, how about we bring a GM in.

774
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: As soon as that happens, I'm going I quit. That's

775
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: my bello chick impression. Quit.

776
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 5: How old is he is he seventy.

777
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: Gotta be the see. Yeah, I think I wonder.

778
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 4: If him and Nick Saban are the same age or

779
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 4: he's a year older than Nick Saban. And I know

780
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 4: Nick Saban, I think has crossed over to seventy, so

781
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 4: I think they're around the same age. But it's it's

782
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 4: a tough league, and you know, I like to see

783
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 4: guys kind of go off into the sunset. But usually

784
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 4: did things end badly because if they weren't bad, they

785
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 4: wouldn't end.

786
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: So so that Don Shula.

787
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and very like they let Don walk away. And

788
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 4: you know, my dad will get very defensive of that. Yeah,

789
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 4: I understand my dad will get very defensive of that.

790
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 4: All right, coming up next, I got a couple more

791
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 4: questions for you, and then of course we'll go around

792
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 4: the league and uh, why it was so good for

793
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 4: the Browns to get away to the fabulous Greenbrier in

794
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 4: West Virginia. It's coming up on the Cleveland Browns Preview

795
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 4: show on the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network.

796
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 3: This is the Cleveland Browns Preview Show the University Hospitals

797
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns Radio Network. Here are your hosts, Kim Carman

798
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: and Gerrod.

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00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 4: Jerry tom betson Hall of Fame Stadium Coming up Thursday night,

800
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 4: eight pm. Kickoff Browns Game Day Live with You at

801
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 4: four pm from Canton, all along the University Hospitals Cleveland

802
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 4: Browns Radio Network. Just a couple of questions and we'll

803
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 4: go around the league here, Jerrod, one, is Philadelphia the

804
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 4: most complete team in the NFL?

805
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: Boy?

806
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 4: I love this offense, I love this defense, and I'm

807
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 4: glad I didn't say anything stupid about Jalen Hurts. I

808
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 4: really liked him. I liked his leadership at OU after

809
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 4: he left Alabama. And right now I'm coming up looking

810
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 4: looking pretty good on that one.

811
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: Right now, buddy, you're looking very smart. And I was

812
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: saying a lot.

813
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 5: Of stupid things. That wasn't one of them.

814
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: Yes, no, sir, and I say yes. I say yes.

815
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: And as I've been giving, I believe ultimately, because the

816
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: Chiefs been in that situation with the Super Bowl on

817
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: the line, that they were just better prepared for it

818
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: in comparison to the Eagles. But I do think they're

819
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: the most complete team and I will not be surprised

820
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: if they find themselves in the NFC Championship and also

821
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. Again, that would

822
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: not surprise me, though it's a hard thing to do,

823
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, it wouldn't surprise me.

824
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 4: It's it's so weird, Girod because I listened to John Ritchie,

825
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 4: who does radio over in Philadelphia, and what they they're

826
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 4: as sharp as an edge as a razor's edge out

827
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 4: there in Philly and in that football team and the

828
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 4: standard they hold. Now, they're all excited because the Kelly

829
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 4: Green's coming back, and they were having a tailgate for

830
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 4: the team shop and open it up and everything, and

831
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 4: they love their Kelly Green, and they certainly love their Eagles.

832
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 4: But listening to John Ritchie and a lot of those fans,

833
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 4: they're like, yeah, that's good. Now you gotta get back.

834
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 4: Like Nick Sirianni is not a savior to a great

835
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 4: portion of that fan base, they still hold him to

836
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 4: a very high standard, going, okay, you got these players,

837
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 4: Now get back to where you're supposed to go. Because Gerrod,

838
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 4: I gotta agree with you. There was a team that

839
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 4: I could think, and I know what I just said

840
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 4: about Patrick Mahomes. If there's a team I think that

841
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 4: could have the quote unquote Super Bowl hangover. I think

842
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 4: it's more of the Chiefs. I don't think it's more

843
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: of the Eagles. In this case. There's a lot of

844
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 4: holes in that Chief's football team that I think that

845
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 4: they're gonna have to rebuild with over the next couple

846
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 4: of years. I think the Eagles are ready to compete

847
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 4: for a Super Bowl this season, Buddy, I agree with you.

848
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 5: Right, go ahead, real quick, go ahead. Where we're gonna say.

849
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying we've seen before the Chiefs can that they've

850
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,959
Speaker 1: been bored before with football. Remember that time they like, yeah,

851
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: four or five games, losing here, losing there, and really

852
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: decided down the road. Okay, I guess we'll start playing

853
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: and I can see that happening again this year.

854
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 4: Pick your winner for each division, and why real quick,

855
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 4: the AFC and NFC.

856
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: East, AFC East. I am going to go with the Jets.

857
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: I'm buying into the hype. For some reason. You got

858
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers giving thirty five million dollars away to help

859
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: the team and trying to change the narrative. So and

860
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: that's a young team that needed a quarterback last year,

861
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 1: and had they had one, who knows where they would

862
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: have went. And then when you look at the NFC.

863
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: We just said it, it's the Eagles.

864
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right about that. All right, Moving on,

865
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 4: we go around the league, and this one is very

866
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 4: spirited here. Jonathan Taylor and Saquon Barklay. Are they really

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Speaker 4: gonna gain any ground for future running backs with what

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Speaker 4: they are or have done so far with those contract disputes?

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Speaker 1: No, unfortunately, no, it will not be the case. The

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Speaker 1: only thing that they could possibly do is by lamenting

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Speaker 1: is and I don't fault them for that. When you're

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Speaker 1: the best player on your team and you're not compensated

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Speaker 1: for that, this is gonna hurt your feelings because you

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Speaker 1: think it's a meritocracy, but you find out the hard

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Speaker 1: way that it's not the only thing that's gonna impact

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Speaker 1: the running back position of if kids stop playing it

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Speaker 1: and then use a shortage of them. But unfortunately, it

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Speaker 1: was an ample supply of guys that you can plug

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Speaker 1: in and be effective in the backfield, and that's what's

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Speaker 1: hindering them, even though these guys are game changers and

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Speaker 1: difference makers. Unfortunately, the position has been put in the

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Speaker 1: position to where you can argue there's no enough value

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Speaker 1: in it, and they can't do anything about it because,

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Speaker 1: simply put, the union's not that strong, and no is

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Speaker 1: gonna take up their calls in boycott because running backs

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Speaker 1: are unhappy about how they're getting paid. And that's just

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Speaker 1: the fact of the matter.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's been a lot of people over the

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Speaker 4: last couple of weeks who have come up with a

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Speaker 4: lot of big, big ideas and a lot of big

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Speaker 4: things to combat it. But when it comes down to

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Speaker 4: dollars and cents, I'm not in their pocket. I have

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Speaker 4: no idea, I have no idea what they can do.

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Speaker 4: And it's gotten to the point, Drod, I'll say this

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Speaker 4: real quickly. It's gotten to the point where I have

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Speaker 4: found myself rooting against some quarterbacks, like Justin Herbert gets

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Speaker 4: paid a boatload of money with the Chargers, and for

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Speaker 4: a second it's like, boy, what if he did bad,

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Speaker 4: doesn't matter. They would just find another quarterback. Teams will

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Speaker 4: just continue to invest in quarterbacks and invest a lot

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Speaker 4: of money because they control almost the entire outcome of

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Speaker 4: what teams do offensively. I know that it's not the

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Speaker 4: end all be all, but it's as close to it

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Speaker 4: as you can get on the field. So I don't

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Speaker 4: think if Justin Herbert were to do poorly, or Joe

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Speaker 4: Burrow were to turn into a pumpkin or anybody like that,

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Speaker 4: I don't think it would change the market for running backs.

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Speaker 4: I think they would still treat running backs the way

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Speaker 4: they do right now is as sad as I am

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Speaker 4: to say it. When we come back, we'll preview the

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Speaker 4: Kevin Stefanski Show on Thursday and get you ready for

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Speaker 4: the Browns and Jets live from Canton, Ohio on Thursday night.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to the Cleveland Browns preview show on the

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Speaker 4: University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network.

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Speaker 7: This is Brown's running Bad Nicks Up, This is Brown's

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Speaker 7: Defensive Ben Miles Gertt.

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Speaker 1: This is Greg News from the Second and you are

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Speaker 1: listening to the University Hospitals.

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Radio Network.

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Speaker 1: University Hospitals is your hometown medical team, an official health.

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Speaker 4: Care provider of the Cleveland Browns. We got Browns Game

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Speaker 4: Day coming to you four pm live from Canton o'hio.

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Speaker 4: Gerald and I will be in the booth for that

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Speaker 4: one as we get you set for the Browns and

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Speaker 4: Jets on Thursday, six pm. The Cleveland Browns kickoff show

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Speaker 4: eight o'clock kickoff and then postgame with Jeff Phelps and

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Speaker 4: Tyvis Powell coming to you. Is we get you ready

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Speaker 4: for Game one of the twenty twenty three pre season

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Speaker 4: the Jets in your Cleveland Browns from Tom Benson Hall

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Speaker 4: of Fame Stadium, Gerad. Of course, we have the Kevin

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Speaker 4: Stefanski Show on Tuesday night Nathan's ger Own Gerrod Cherry Gods,

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Speaker 4: to be joined by coach Tafanski and Browns quarterback Kellen

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Speaker 4: mand for Thursday, Jirod quickly, what are we looking at,

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Speaker 4: my friend? What are we watching for?

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Speaker 1: It's really simple. You're watching for the guys who right

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Speaker 1: now in backup roles, make a statement. Prove to me

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Speaker 1: why you should be on this football team. Because this

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Speaker 1: is gonna be an extremely difficult team to make. But

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Speaker 1: go out there, show up, show out, do your part,

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Speaker 1: not just to make this team, but the show the

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Speaker 1: rest of the league that you belong in the confines

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Speaker 1: of the National Football League.

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Speaker 5: Stand out.

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Speaker 4: Give me a name, Give me a name that either

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Speaker 4: can we can talk about making the back end of

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Speaker 4: this roster, or we can follow along as they go

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Speaker 4: and get a job somewhere else in the NFL. We

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Speaker 4: know a lot of this fifty three man rosters counted.

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Speaker 4: We know that a lot of this fifty three man

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Speaker 4: roster has already taken up. So let's call facts what

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Speaker 4: they are. But give me a name that we can

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Speaker 4: all make a big deal for and say that guy

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Speaker 4: deserves to be an NFL football player again four PM.

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Speaker 4: Brown's Game Day six pm on Thursday, with the Cleveland

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Speaker 4: Browns Kickoff Show. Kickoff coming up at eight, and then

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Speaker 4: the post game show with Jeff Phelps and Tyvas Powell

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Speaker 4: the Kevin Stefanski Show tomorrow night at seven. A big

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Speaker 4: thanks to executive producer Jason Gibbs and producer Meredith Kine

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Speaker 4: from a Buddy Gerard Cherry, I'm Ken Carmen. Thank you

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Speaker 4: for listening to the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network.

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Speaker 3: You've been listening to the Cleveland Browns preview Show. Join

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Speaker 3: us next week for more behind the scenes Brown's news

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Speaker 3: from Maria.

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Speaker 1: We always look at each game as how do we

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Speaker 1: win this game?

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Speaker 2: What does this game call for?

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Speaker 7: Cleveland Browns radio network.