WEBVTT - Creature Feature Crossover 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:12.600 Spooky. All right, we're done. Um, Hello everybody, welcome back 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:14.440 to the show that this is on the week that 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:17.279 this is, which is the spooky week of the year 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:22.479 where things are spooky. Today, my guest Katie Golden. Katie, 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:26.439 say hello to the audience. Hello, audience, now say goodbye. 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:31.600 Okay by audience. Now tell the audience that acts of 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:35.680 industrial sabotage are always morally justified in defense of the 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:44.320 climate uh acts of Wait, okay, so are you do 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:46.400 you guys have a team of lawyers that I can 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:50.040 access or absolutely, they say it's fine. They say it's fine. 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:54.840 If you tell people that then you know, industrial sabotui 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:58.600 or whatever. He said, it's cool. I love it, all right, everybody. 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:00.520 I wouldn't have made that kind of aim, but but 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:03.960 you heard Katie, so you know, there you go. We've 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.800 now made a full throated defense of the Niger Delta Avengers. 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.560 That is true. That is an upcoming episode. Chris, Um, Katie, 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:12.880 what do you? What do you do? What do we? 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:14.959 What are we? What are we? What are we? What 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:20.600 are we? What are We're all? Star? Dust Robert, Okay, 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:25.759 well that sounds soothing. Actually, Well well, first, Katie of 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:29.520 of of the Golden's is the host of Creature You 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:32.240 right for some more news. You're the host of Creature feature. 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:37.679 Jesus Sophie, you gotta remember these things. Um M, everything's 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:41.119 always beful. What are we? What are we doing today? 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:45.120 What do you got? What? What are what's happening? I mean, 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:51.600 this is your podcast. But I thought, all right, fine, 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:54.560 it's my podcast. Now, welcome to it could happen. We 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:58.320 are hosted by Katie. I thought we could talk. I 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:01.000 thought we could talk about animals because I like animals. 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:04.120 All right, you got a spooky thing about an animal 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.560 for us? Yeah, I thought, because the theme of your 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:11.240 podcast seems to be, you know, sort of the future 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:15.400 and how things could get pretty fucky in the future, 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:19.720 and I thought, there are some examples of things getting 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:24.480 fucky with animals in the current present. That seems to 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:29.600 it could maybe be a bit of a crystal ball 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:33.520 for things that could happen in the future with climate change. 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:37.480 That is kind of spooky. All right, let's do it. 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:43.119 Have you guys heard of the saiga antelope? I mean, 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.880 I've heard of antelopes, and I've heard of the saiga, 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.919 And I guess I'm not surprised that there's antelopes in 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.760 the Saiga. Do me a quick favor and just google 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.880 Siga antelope and just take a gander. Take them all 0:02:55.960 --> 0:03:02.040 in as I I'll describe them to the audio. Oh wow, Yeah, 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:07.000 they are kind of some of the cutest, dufiest little 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:11.320 in the world. Little little they have the best little face. 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:15.079 I know, it's weird. It looks like just too it's 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:18.280 just a big nose. Yeah, it's just a big ridiculous nose. 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.760 My god, that nose looks silly. They must be endangered 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.800 because they look they look like they're terrible at staying alive. 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:28.760 Their their faces all nose. It's like someone's whole face 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:30.919 was just a nose, like someone struck an ant eater 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:34.920 to Like, Yeah, they look delicious. I'm just gonna say it. 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.960 I would hunt them and eat them. They kind of 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:43.200 like did it with Voldemort's nostrils in the Harry Potter movie. 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:49.440 But like long, Yeah, they look ridiculous. Yes, they like 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:53.200 a Star Wars animal. Yea. Some of them they're patterning 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:55.440 makes it look like they have tear drop tattoos under 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.640 their eyes, which I think means they've all killed someone 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:02.520 in prison. If I'm remembering go hard correctly. Yeah. Anyways, 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.760 want are you going to tell something that is happening 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:10.400 with them? Katie? Yes? Are they racist? Are these racist antelope? Katie, 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:13.720 We're gonna milkshake duct these antelopes. Yeah, they're they're all 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:16.680 um as far as I know, they're not too racist. 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:21.719 They have some problematic views on like, you know, gender abortion. Yeah, 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:25.200 that's I mean, all antelope have really regressive attitudes towards 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:30.320 women's reproductive health, I mean frustrating. Yeah, yeah, it's a 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.160 but these guys look like Star Wars animals. To me, 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.160 they kind of look like a Star Wars animal named 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:39.400 like a grass honker or something. Yeah, they look extremely fake. 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.560 It's looks like a guy you'd meet at the bar 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:47.719 where the Aliens played jizz. Yes, that type of music 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:51.480 that Katie's doing is canonically and if you and if 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:53.240 you are if you, if you are a musician who 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.960 plays jiz, you are a jiz whaler. And the best 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:00.320 thing about that is that I know all of the 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.839 thought that George Lucas put to that was, Oh, someone 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:05.680 asked what the type of music they played in the 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:08.919 jazz Jazz is a real kind of music. Let me 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:12.920 just put an eye in the vowel. Now, well, that's 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:16.400 gonna be the day for me. He didn't even put 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:20.680 an apostrophe in which it could have it could have, 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:26.200 it could have been, didn't even the effort wasn't there 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:31.320 because okay, sorry no, I could talk about this for hours. 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:35.000 I just the differences between J. K. Rowling and and 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:39.360 George Lucas as creators who both made very popular fiction 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.080 franchises and want people to think they thought about them 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:45.080 more than they did, is absolutely hysterical because J. K. 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:48.520 Rowling does that by creating all these convoluted backstories, and 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.320 George Lucas replaced the A and jazz with an eye 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:58.480 and didn't realize that a thing. Right, what an incredible person. 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:03.000 It is pretty good. Sorry, Katie, No, it's fine. It's fine. 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:06.120 So these Psyga antelope a k. A. Jiz whalers are 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:12.760 found in the grasslands and semi deserts in Central Asia, Russia, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, Uzbekistan, 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.520 and Turkmenistan. They actually used to have a much wider range, 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.560 but because of all the Roberts out there wanting to 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:26.800 taste their delicious, delicious meat, h hunting just that nose 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:30.760 on a plate. Their population declined and it's now limited 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:34.440 to a small territory. So yeah, so there's still enough 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.920 for meat to eat a couple. No, Robert, if you 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:44.479 try to kill one, I'll kill you first. Siga antelope hunting, 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:46.440 we have to we have to protect the jiz whalers. 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:50.120 They look they look stupid as shit. It can't possibly 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.880 be good at stuff. Actually, what that knows? I bet 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:56.760 their senses are. They could do a lot of interesting things. Yeah, anybody, 0:06:56.839 --> 0:07:01.600 let Katie tell the story. You interpreting fox go, Sorry, 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:06.520 we all got not so it's okay, it's I understand 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:08.599 the excitement about these guys. Um. I do want to 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.240 paint a mental picture for the audience just so they 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.920 get like why people are freaking out. So they have 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.800 this elephant, like imagine a little antelope, and they're they're small. 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:22.000 They're about two to three ft tall, about six pounds. Yeah, 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.960 they're little babies. And it looks like you took like 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:28.280 a cute little deer and just glued like a big 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.800 elephant nose to it. It's not as long as an 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.480 elephant trunk, but it's sort of a like a It 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:38.120 curls under like an elephant seal nose stuck to a 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:43.400 little deer, and that snout is called a proboscis, And yeah, 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.560 it's a they're kind of a they have sort of 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:50.480 a light tan white coat. Uh, they can get really 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:54.840 fluffy in the winter. Uh. They have these really huge 0:07:55.000 --> 0:08:01.080 tubular nostrils on that nose, and that gigantic honker helps 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:04.880 them filter dirt as the huge herds sort of trample 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:08.480 on the ground and kick up dirt clouds um. And 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:12.200 it can also act as an ac unit that cools 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:16.320 the Saga antelopes blood. So as blood flows through it, 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.120 you have this spacious chamber and it cools the blood 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:22.800 and it recirculates. And then in the winter it can 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.680 act as a space heater that warms the air before 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:30.240 they breathe it in so ac heater. Yeah, filter system. 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:34.120 It's really a cool nose, which is why it was 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:39.520 absolutely horrifying when entire herds of the Saga antelope started 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:43.560 dropping dead on mass within like days of each other, 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:50.640 just like a biblical plague. So there are photos. What's 0:08:51.480 --> 0:09:01.360 properly unbelievable. You're so embarrassing sometimes, Katie, I'm so sorry. No, 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:04.680 it's it's it's fine. Um, I'm I mean, I don't 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.800 know how else to sort of add levity to just 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.760 the most adorable little antelope in the world just all 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:16.640 suddenly dying. Uh. There. So there are photos in Kazakhstans 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:21.200 of in Kazakhstan of these fields just littered with these 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:24.200 white lumps, and when you zoom in you realize they're 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:29.000 all saga antelope corpses just covering the ground. It's pretty 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.600 bone chilling. It kind of looks okay, this is a 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:36.240 little bit. Uh. It kind of looks like a cult death, 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:41.600 a mass cult death, like Jonestown antelope. Oh boy. I 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:43.960 was gonna say, when you go grenade fishing, but yeah, 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:50.480 same kind of idea grenade fishing. Yeah, what does you 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:52.440 drop a grenade in a lake and then it kills 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.000 all the fish and they float to the top so 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:57.400 you can Okay, I thought it was like you were 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:02.440 fishing for like running around a field going like that 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:05.360 a grenade. If you go fishing in a lake where 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:08.600 people go grenade fishing, you may in fact catch a grenade. 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:13.760 But but two grenades with one stone. Wow, kind of 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.280 I'm having this image of bobbing for apples, but like 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:27.600 above the apple yu with lakes in Iraq? Is it 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:31.480 because they've got grenades in them? Yeah? I don't really, 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:38.120 that's how you fish. Yeah, okay, yeah, I'm still obsession 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:42.840 looking at these pictures. Okay, so what what caused all this? 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.319 This this nightmare plague that killed all of the all 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.880 of the weird nos the gonzo antelope, right, the gonzo antelope. 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:52.240 It was kind of a mystery. So in two hundred 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:56.600 thousand siged died off in that year alone, and literally 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:02.559 not that many, So I got that. Yeah, it was 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.319 like the it wiped out the majority of the global 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:09.320 population because they were already endangered. Um. Yeah, they just 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:13.120 like keeled over died without explanation, and so researchers were 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:20.640 obviously horrified and confused and slightly curious and start that's left. 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:26.880 Yeah yeah, so they're like a hundred thousand left. Um. 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:30.199 And so they started investigating the mass deaths and they 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:34.280 found that the cause was a bacterial infection of pastor 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:40.200 Ella multosita type B bacteria, which is really catchy name um. 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:46.119 And it caused hemorrhagic septicemia um, which is a horrible 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:50.160 I looked up the symptoms. It's like internal bleeding and 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.880 just it's like the worst cold ever, but also with 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:58.360 your organs bleeding inside, which doesn't sound great. It sounds 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:04.560 and honestly looks captain trips, like the plague from Stephen 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:07.240 King's The Stand that killed all of the people. Like 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.880 just this horrible plague that makes everybody bleed out and 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:13.880 drop where they're standing. Yeah, that's essentially what it happened. 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.200 What happens also with a lot of snot like a 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:21.280 lot of ye that's also very captain trips. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:28.000 I mean maybe that yeah yeah, so meat fun. So yeah. 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:33.200 What is thought to have happened is that basically, this 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:37.720 bacteria pastor Ella has often been found in siga antelope 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:41.120 large noses. They're also found in other like a yellow 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.600 noses that have big these big sort of proboscus noses, 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.440 and it lives in there. But it's normally not a 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.840 problem because the immune system is able to fight it 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:55.040 off fine and maintains his balance. But the climate, I 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.120 don't know if you guys have heard, but climate is 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:00.680 kind of getting weird, like that is something I've I've 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:04.920 heard of, Yeah, learning about it. It may be it 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:06.960 may be changing from what it used to be. A 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:11.440 little bit. Yeah, it's called change of climate kind of 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.880 on a global scale, everything getting slightly warmer, Yeah, usually 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:25.440 climate hottening climate. Because of climate hottening, this bacteria, it 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:30.240 had much more ideal, uh, kind of of an environment 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:34.360 to grow. So inside the beautiful proboscis of the antelope, 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.719 you can imagine, it's moist, it's warm, it's great. It's 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:41.000 moister with fester inside the nose right exactly. And so 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.200 when it gets more humid on the outside, more hot 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:47.000 and humid, that nose increases in temperature as well, and 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:52.120 it became the perfect incubator for hosting this bacteria such 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:57.600 that it overwhelmed the antelopes immune system and literally they 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.920 just started dropping like flies from this in action, like 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:05.760 an entire herd dying within a couple of days. When 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:07.840 when you first mentioned this, you're talking about how they 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:09.480 can use their nose as like an air conditioner. I 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:11.680 was thinking like, oh, maybe maybe these animals will be 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.280 like well adapt to climate change so they can stuff regulate. 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.120 But no, of course not. Of course it's not a 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:21.360 good story. Um Now, I think that's what's so creepy 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.479 about climate change to me is there's like the obvious 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.680 effects are things like more fire, we get real hot 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:32.040 and we die because it's too hot. But things like oh, 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:36.200 this means bacteria loves loves living life and like starts 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.520 eating us from the inside out. Like that's not a 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:43.000 really I guess intuitive consequence of global warming, but it 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:46.680 is one of the things that seems to be likely 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.680 to happen. So it's really creepy. Well it's fun is 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:52.200 when you started this and talked about like a whole 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.960 herd of of of these antelopes dropping at once, I 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:56.640 thought it was going to be like, oh, another one 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.280 of those like horrible sulfur bubbles that killed like the 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:03.040 cities where of animals in a matter of seconds because 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:06.120 a bunch of ice melted um. And I'm not sure 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.560 which is creepier. Actually this is worse moment, Like they 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.920 died in like horrible pain. Yeah, I don't think the 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:17.840 sulfur wasn't painful, but yeah, but they're both horrifying. The 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.920 sulfur is at least faster. They're both very frightening. And 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.520 it's also both things that like oh yeah that could 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.440 that could that could drop some people that could just 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.640 jump right across. There's there's a couple of ways this 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:30.520 could go bad for us. This is the thing me 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:32.320 and Robert was looking a little bit into to put 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.120 together the first five scripted episodes of The Daily As 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.680 we in a few books we read, there were there 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.160 were there were sections, like large sections about how this 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:44.480 is gonna basically just make plagues be a thing forever. Now, Yeah, 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:46.120 this is gonna be hard for people to really get 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.640 their heads around. But imagine a plague hit in in 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:51.480 in the twenty onet century. How scary that would be 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.400 just really trying to get your head around that global plague. Yeah, 0:15:54.520 --> 0:16:00.640 people drop into frightening, you know. So the coronavirus on viruses, 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:04.680 technically it's not a plague, right because it's not bati bacteria. 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:10.960 It's yeah, it's viral. A lot of people a plague 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:14.600 like it's it's it's both both both Like viral pathogens 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:18.280 bacterial pathogens are with with globalization, can spread it much faster, right, 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.800 And now with global warming there's gonna be more breeding 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.360 ground for literally new bacterias. And this is and with 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:25.960 with stuff melting in the ice captain all the kind 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.000 of stuff. There's just a lot of reasons to just 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.920 assume that Yeah, we're just gonna kind of live with 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.640 plugues constantly being a problem now, Like it's that's just 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.520 the were there there. There never is going to be 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:41.320 a post COVID nineteen world. It's just this forever. COVID 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.840 was just the first plague that really got through the 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.000 defenses that we're never going to hold up to the 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:50.280 damage we're doing to the climate. Like there were a 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:52.640 couple of plagues beforehand that like we we were able 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:54.600 to kind of tamp down on get a lit on, 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.960 and COVID was just the system actually finally shattering and 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.560 it's never gonna get fixed. And the leagues you're just 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:03.520 gonna get play gear and uh, it'll be fun. But 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:08.080 on the other side, on the upside, here's some mats. Okay, Yeah, 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:23.600 on the upside, capitalism we are back. I've unfortunately I've 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:25.840 got to the point where I'm scrolling through these pictures 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:31.320 where I've now found the mountain of dead animals. Yeah, 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:34.680 it's real, fucking the stand ship. Yeah, it's a lot 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:36.800 of them, a lot of them dead, just in giant pile. 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:41.280 Like imagine the cutest Sesame street character, cuter than Snuffle 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:45.359 Up a guess, just lying in heaps, and that big 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:49.200 nose has to make him extra vulnerable to fucking horrible 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:54.760 nose bacteria. That's when we were just talking about it's 0:17:55.000 --> 0:18:00.119 literally big nose. That's just what we said, Kate, you 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.480 just explained that. I know. But it's so sad. It 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:07.040 is very sad. It's very sad. And there there's this 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:10.879 is not an isolated case that will never happen again. 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.840 Researchers warm that it's very likely stuff like this will 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:18.560 keep happening with climate change, and they're warning that reindeer 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:22.240 populations are at risk because reindeer actually also have a 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:24.399 really even though it doesn't seem like they have a 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.439 huge prick boss, because they have a very impressive nose. 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:31.800 It's very spacious. It also actually works like a little 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:35.240 space heater and warms up the air as they breathe 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:39.399 it in. It's pretty amazing. But those same characteristics that 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:43.479 are so beneficial to the reindeer now could actually become 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:46.680 very dangerous for them with climate change if this bacterial 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:51.199 growth happens. So we're looking at potential um, you know, 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:55.000 risk to reindeer population, and there's also a lot of 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:58.919 risk to farm animals as well, like for something similar 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:04.359 have to happen where this bacteria can infect farm animals 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:10.000 like cows and other types of ungulate farm animals. Uh. 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.359 And so you know, even if people don't care about 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:16.720 the adorable psycha antelope, which I guess would be just 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:23.080 psychopaths murders, you know. Uh, But like you know, we 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:28.399 also have very important species like you know, reindeer that 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:32.639 are keystone species and also you know our farm animals 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:35.520 that you know, Yeah, they're very for a lot of 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.600 people to basically how they live. Their lives are based 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:43.880 around cultivating these animals and hunting and raising it. Yeah. Yeah, 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:47.920 So I mean, in my opinion, every species, even if 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.680 no matter how obscured it is, it is typically something 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:53.919 very important for humans. It's just it's sort of the 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:57.240 like seven Degrees of Kevin Bacon. It's like you don't 0:19:57.320 --> 0:20:00.560 have to get too far away to realize that Evan Bacon, 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:05.080 like his survival is really important to the planet um. 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.080 Except instead of Kevin Bacon, it's like any animal. And 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:10.520 that is basically all ye, all animals and all ecosystems, 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:13.400 no matter even if you feel like they're not super important. 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:16.880 The way our world works and how ecoistms work. They're 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:21.520 all incredibly intrinsic and reliant on each other. So even 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:23.520 you know that's that we're seeing stuff about, like why 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:26.960 don't we just like turn entire deserts into solar fields 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:29.399 and be like, well, no, because the desert equisystem actually 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:32.720 very like if they serves a very important purpose, Like 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:35.360 you can't just be like, oh, deserts are too important, 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:38.000 Like no, like they have an actual ecoistm that's actually 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:40.800 very important to the surrounding areas. We can't just bulldoze 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:43.560 it and turn into a solar just sand garrison, which 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:47.359 is coarse and irritating, and it gets everywhere, It's everywhere. 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:52.840 Is that an actual quote from from episode two Attack 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:56.199 of the Clones by hearing Christensen playing Anakin Skywalker the 0:20:56.200 --> 0:21:01.960 padawan with with the rat tail. Yeah? Classic that. Yeah, 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.800 his rat tail. Amazing. The courage they used to have, 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:09.480 the courage of two three. How could Pat May not? 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:12.200 How could she not want that? How could you resist? 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.280 It's like that Ween song Every girl wants a guy 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:18.600 with a rat tail. Yeah, I'm just assuming if that 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:23.160 were a song it would be by Ween called it's 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:27.080 called a like a love Lover. I think that's right. 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:34.119 That's right. So what's up with these animals? Yeah, you 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:36.520 want some more animals because I talked about how those 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:39.919 animals mostly all died. Oh I'm not. I'm just thinking like, 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:41.560 what's like, what's what like? Do you know, like what's 0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:46.840 happened with them since they all dropped? Thousand of them 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:52.840 left alive? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, they're not currently all dying 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:56.880 of this bacterial infection. I think, like some of them are. 0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:00.840 They apparently outside of the dangers and I guess outside 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:05.000 of the area where that's about the best you can 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:08.200 say for any species. Some of them aren't in the 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:12.440 danger area occurringly, but obviously that's going to change as 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:17.320 global warming progresses. So yeah, it's it's pretty grim. It's 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:19.720 also I think, you know, obviously, when you think about 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:23.280 these things, humans obviously don't have like these big snuffle 0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:25.840 off a guess noses, which is really sad because I'm 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:28.840 imagining us with it, and we're we'd all be dead. 0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:32.040 We would all be dead, but really, which would be 0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:34.720 better for the planet? So but we but we we 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:37.320 would we would be way better at whaling jizz And honestly, 0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:39.760 I feel we would be whaling the hell out of 0:22:39.840 --> 0:22:44.159 some jizz one man, one can dream would be nose 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:51.600 deep in a big old pilages. Oh wow, yeah, how 0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:59.959 would How does the Bible quantify jizz um cubits? Okay, 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:03.600 that's what Noah said, but he wanted to get on 0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:10.960 the arc. Yeah, God's like you must two jis of 0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:14.560 every kind. Well, Noah was big into Now we're just 0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:20.639 like drawing that it was ever about music. Alright, Sorry, Katie, No, 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:27.200 that's all right, I asked, So yeah, I mean I 0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:31.120 thought another thing we could talk about is how animal 0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:35.280 folklore is really important to pay attention to and to 0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:41.239 kind of listen to as both information and warnings for 0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:46.320 the future. Um, because we often dismiss folklore as like, oh, 0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:49.080 you know, these are just spooky stories that we tell 0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:52.720 around the campfire. They're just legends, they don't mean anything. 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:56.960 We're especially dismissive, I think when it comes to indigenous peoples. 0:23:57.000 --> 0:23:59.679 It's like, oh, your folklore, Oh that's so cute and quaint. 0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:02.480 But yeah, we we look at it as we we 0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:05.320 like really like infantilize it as like, oh, look at 0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:09.080 you primitive people still doing folklore, which is extremely extremely 0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:14.880 disrespectful and also like very naive about how things work 0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:18.040 when you look at how heavily engineered all of like 0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:21.800 the forests were in the entirety of the America's like 0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:24.280 from the Amazon of the up to the Pacific Northwest. 0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:26.760 It's a little like like the architect of a building 0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:28.800 comes in and says, hey, you can't knock out that 0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:30.960 retaining wall. The building is gonna collapse and we're gonna 0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:35.720 be like, oh, Mr Architect with his magic walls, and 0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:49.880 then the building collapses on us. You know, there's there's 0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:54.280 a bunche of paintings, like there's like drawings from like 0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:57.639 this is like the early sixteen hundreds of of people 0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:00.320 like in North America, and and it will be drawings. 0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:03.720 It's all these European guys standing on a tree and 0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:06.359 what they're watching is like it's it's one of one 0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:09.639 of the I forget exactly what tried. This is one 0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:11.560 of one of the people. Like they figured out how 0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:14.960 to have like a fire that's like it burns it 0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:18.159 like exactly, like like perfectly in this ring around the 0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:20.040 tree does not catch anything else inside of it, like 0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:22.439 and it's funny because it's like you look at this 0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:26.960 and it's like okay, like the people like, the people 0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:30.520 who are drawing this painting cannot do this, and it's 0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:33.879 like it's very clear that they're just like incredibly befuddled 0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:36.040 by this. But it's like, you know, it's it's it's 0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:38.560 just sitting there. And then all the people who paint, 0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:40.359 who paint that, you like, all the European artists who 0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:42.639 like do this each like no, no, no, it's fine. 0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:45.439 We don't know how they're doing this fire control stuff. 0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:51.480 But we're Europeans. Everything we every ignoring everything other people 0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:53.560