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Speaker 1: has his own mic. Now, Hi, Wow, it's I said,
Speaker 1: this show is becoming a full experience. You're gonna I
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna say. You're gonna say this show
Speaker 1: becomes more and more Howard Stern by the episode and
Speaker 1: shout out to Howard Love I mean, but I will
Speaker 1: say shout out to Nick. To Nick. I was just
Speaker 1: on Howard certain wrap up show, and I want to say,
Speaker 1: what's up to those folks? I had so much fun.
Speaker 1: Oh and I just got to know with Mtayline, previous
Speaker 1: guest of the wrap up show. Yes, his episodes are
Speaker 1: fabulous and he was singing everybody's praises over there at
Speaker 1: Stern there loves you guys over there, we love you.
Speaker 1: They're an army of great folks. And I will say, um,
Speaker 1: I'm happy that We talked about that because it put
Speaker 1: me in a good place for a second. What do
Speaker 1: you mean, what do you do you know about? And
Speaker 1: I should be flying high? You should be flying I
Speaker 1: should be flying high. Is the winner of culture. But
Speaker 1: I was going to say, but I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: flying high. I'm feeling really um, what's going on. I
Speaker 1: can't believe we lost the real war, which is Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1: She she beat us, put out an album that is
Speaker 1: no the jury is not out bit and we are
Speaker 1: not talking about how it is a done deal and
Speaker 1: this album is a full It's not her, it's not
Speaker 1: her best. It doesn't matter if it's her. If it's
Speaker 1: not her best, it's still very good. Listen. I read
Speaker 1: an interview. I read an interview interview today with because
Speaker 1: basically she's she's pulling a Beyonce. She's not doing any
Speaker 1: interviews for this album cycle. But her uh you know,
Speaker 1: go to music VIEWO director is Joseph Cohn. Yes, Joseph,
Speaker 1: this crazy looking Korea man who is a visionary whatever.
Speaker 1: But he was sort of he's sort of been her
Speaker 1: mouthpiece this whole time, and he I will say, I
Speaker 1: like came after her culture for being like a pseudo
Speaker 1: white did you said, I don't think so, honey, a
Speaker 1: c L you Taylor Swift. I think just her legal
Speaker 1: team is obviously very misguided. But Joseph Khan seemed to
Speaker 1: leave me with the impression that she is not She's
Speaker 1: not the enemy. She's an enemy. I am bopping and
Speaker 1: swooping and stomping. And we saw her at the SNL
Speaker 1: after party, Yes we did. That was crazy anyway, Now
Speaker 1: look we have another star in our midst Oh what
Speaker 1: what go? Okay? You guys were at the SNL after party,
Speaker 1: but somehow only Dave Mazzoni got all up in that.
Speaker 1: There was a long story. There was a long story.
Speaker 1: I thought, I trained you better than this fucking choreographers
Speaker 1: in your way. No, no, don't do don'tever. He is
Speaker 1: so much more than mostly a choreo. Um no, listen.
Speaker 1: I would have felt like a sham if I had
Speaker 1: gone out there and took a picture with her. I
Speaker 1: would have felt like a sham. It would have because
Speaker 1: I've took so much ship, and so is bo and
Speaker 1: so have I. But I came up with the perfect
Speaker 1: thing to vote to have said to her at once,
Speaker 1: what would you have said? Bow and we've been like, Hi,
Speaker 1: are you the girl from the UPS Trucks? And we
Speaker 1: both would have laughed, and we both would have laughed.
Speaker 1: She would have laughed here would have found it funny.
Speaker 1: There is why I'm going to assert why Dave Mazzoni
Speaker 1: was able to go up to Taylor Swift in the
Speaker 1: two of you were not confident in looks. There's that
Speaker 1: I'm going to say that you guys fundamentally would approach
Speaker 1: that situation as colleagues and would be annoyed that she
Speaker 1: did not recognize like your collegial status in Dave Mazzoni
Speaker 1: is able because of looks and confidence and simply be okay. Here,
Speaker 1: here's what happened. There's some speckstory to it, though, so
Speaker 1: so Matt and Dave met us at the afterparty. I
Speaker 1: was at the taping and I brushed shoulders with her
Speaker 1: and we made eye contact in these narrow halls of
Speaker 1: eight age, and oh my god, I felt this. No, no no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this stopped Matt's being an as I
Speaker 1: felt I felt this, I felt this look from her.
Speaker 1: I was like, she she knows I've talked about her,
Speaker 1: she knows, but she absolutely does that's wonderful, wonderful that
Speaker 1: feeling so well, why didn't somebody leverage Chadrick Hall? He
Speaker 1: was the whole reason why there was a picture even taken.
Speaker 1: So apparently, and I will spill tee now see will
Speaker 1: be spilt. So we were at the S party, Taylor
Speaker 1: famously performed physical guest. Tadrick was there because Toddrick, I guess,
Speaker 1: and Taylor are real I r L friends And Toadrick,
Speaker 1: what are those phone messages? I need to understand? You
Speaker 1: know it's him gushing alright. So so Tadrick was kind
Speaker 1: of being like her keeper in a sense, like he
Speaker 1: was like three steps behind her the whole time, like
Speaker 1: making sure she didn't spend too much time with one person,
Speaker 1: Like you could tell kind of tell if she wanted
Speaker 1: to move van, she'd kind of throw a look to
Speaker 1: Toddrick and she she'd be swept away. So Toddrick, I
Speaker 1: guess his old friends with Ariel's boyfriend. So they were
Speaker 1: talking to Toddrick almost immediately when we got there, and
Speaker 1: I was like, how the fund do they know Tondrick call?
Speaker 1: So that was their point and so then they kind
Speaker 1: of got swooped in and they were sort of in
Speaker 1: this Ki books, confidence, ability to maintain a relationship at
Speaker 1: least Ariel, those big those are the big three. She did.
Speaker 1: She did. Taylor did set her martini down on our table. Though.
Speaker 1: When she was taking the picture and we looked at
Speaker 1: it, it it was like a Vaca martini with like a
Speaker 1: lemon twist, and we were like, that's Taylor Swift and
Speaker 1: I will say this, I will say this. There's one
Speaker 1: more of this. One of the thing. Dave Massoni, when
Speaker 1: he met Taylor Swift, promoted our show at UCB East
Speaker 1: Game Show to her, described it and said the words
Speaker 1: you should come. He's a goddamn professional. Okay, wait, hold on,
Speaker 1: we don't even know who we have to introduce your
Speaker 1: as don let's introduce. Let's go through the credit. Let's
Speaker 1: just the credit. So, um, listen, you can hear him back.
Speaker 1: He has wrestled back the hosting duties from Louis Vitel.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine he gave it away easily. Again. I
Speaker 1: got a little comfortable, um so of Pop Rocket Mother
Speaker 1: Our Dragon Mother. Really, Um, this is one of the
Speaker 1: best podcast. I mean, Boone and I were on it
Speaker 1: when we were in l A. We had such a
Speaker 1: blast true intellectuals on that seriously amazing. We felt like
Speaker 1: the true little dumb pieces of corn colonels that we are. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: you were. We talked about such emotionally and intellectually stimulating
Speaker 1: topics as the finale of Girls You know, it was
Speaker 1: very stimulated. I didn't know it could be sating. Yes,
Speaker 1: so um and obviously the host of the amazing show
Speaker 1: on True TV talk show The Game Show making its return.
Speaker 1: This is such a fun show, you guys, and listen
Speaker 1: to me right now. If you queers thought that the
Speaker 1: first time Tiffany Hattrish told that story, I saw it
Speaker 1: live on the first episode of Talked to the Game
Speaker 1: Show and I lost my mind. I was like, who
Speaker 1: is this person? Tiffany what Hattish? Bitch? And then she
Speaker 1: was on Girls Shop and just the host of us
Speaker 1: in No Wow. Truly a small world, small world. It
Speaker 1: all goes back to a writer for the Mindy Project
Speaker 1: and really just cultural icon in our eyes. His name
Speaker 1: good to be here. Look, okay, so as somebody who
Speaker 1: has lived in l A for quite some time and
Speaker 1: has had some downtimes in his career, like the specter
Speaker 1: of being pet gay too famous women has been presented
Speaker 1: and there there are just those moments. I spent one
Speaker 1: evening essentially being the pet gay to Rumor Willis as
Speaker 1: she was courting Thank God, zach Efron. Uh, and it
Speaker 1: was just like, I'm I was surprised. I've not told
Speaker 1: you guys this story before because I love this story
Speaker 1: too much. It essentially just comes down to he had
Speaker 1: gained like thirty pounds of muscle to do that movie
Speaker 1: where like Dear John or something like that, the one
Speaker 1: where he was coming back from the war. I did
Speaker 1: not really I like was around him for like two
Speaker 1: hours before I realized it was zac Efron. It was
Speaker 1: he started freestyle rapping. He was like, um, I can
Speaker 1: freestyle rap about anything, give me a topic, and Rumor
Speaker 1: said Scooby Doo. And then he freestyle rapped for five
Speaker 1: minutes and never mentioned anything remotely related to Scooby Doo.
Speaker 1: And like at that point I was like because I
Speaker 1: was shitfaced, and I was like, this might be Zach Effron.
Speaker 1: And then I went We were back at her place
Speaker 1: and she like did the thing of like giving me
Speaker 1: the hundred dollar bill to tip the driver and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, which were very much the like you and
Speaker 1: my pet gay sort of things. And then like zach
Speaker 1: I Fron turned to me and was like, where do
Speaker 1: we make drinks? And I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: like I'm not a concierge. Um no. But it was
Speaker 1: also like it was reasonable for him to expect that
Speaker 1: I was failing. The thing is that I went in
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm going to figure out if
Speaker 1: this is zac Efron or not. So then I asked
Speaker 1: him where do you live? And he dodged, and then
Speaker 1: I said, because I'm not unfamiliar with zac Efron's Wikipedia page,
Speaker 1: I said, I said, are you have Jewish? And he said, well,
Speaker 1: it's my dad's dad, so I'm like a third Jewish. Oh.
Speaker 1: I was like, that is someone who learned fractions on
Speaker 1: a sound stagey he he learned his school in Orlando, Florida.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing he did invoke seventy three questions and
Speaker 1: it was mask drag. It was like that, like the
Speaker 1: night that I was with him, he just like he
Speaker 1: wanted to prove to you that he could take beer
Speaker 1: bottle tops off so hard that he just kept opening
Speaker 1: beer bottles when no one needed to be My god,
Speaker 1: what is it's not evenstant need exactly what you said
Speaker 1: to prove my stilenity. He speaks in that fake low voice.
Speaker 1: Has anyone done a good seventy three questions other than
Speaker 1: Sarah Jessica Parker, y Don did a good one, and
Speaker 1: Stone did a really good one. Nicole Kimmins was very
Speaker 1: Nicole Kimmen, and I love I loved Reese Witherspoon's being
Speaker 1: very Nicole Kidman's true. I won't say that that makes
Speaker 1: it good. No to me, as long as it's authentic,
Speaker 1: it is good ends up on her ranch and by
Speaker 1: her stables. I hate when she pretends she's super Australian
Speaker 1: like it's it definitely is on an Australian ranch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we's fine. Speaking of the Taylor Swift one was very like, um,
Speaker 1: what did you give to you? A new singer, get
Speaker 1: a good lawyer, get a good blog, whatever. Honestly, whenever
Speaker 1: you seek little peaks of her in that old Taylor,
Speaker 1: whenever you see little peaks of like what we know
Speaker 1: as Taylor now, which is like, honestly, I guess more
Speaker 1: of a real person, and that she's like kind of
Speaker 1: a bit um. I want that. I kind of love it.
Speaker 1: I want I I kind of love that she said
Speaker 1: get a good lawyer, because you know what that was
Speaker 1: her real answer. But you get Okay, you guys cut
Speaker 1: your teeth on the fall virginity of people who are
Speaker 1: pretending to be super nice and now you're experiencing like
Speaker 1: Disneys women, which do you prefer business women? Now? Business women? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because now I know it's now I know too much.
Speaker 1: Um So, two very talented comics in l A. Test
Speaker 1: Barker and uh Barbara m. Barbara Gray have a podcast
Speaker 1: that is just about analyzing Britney Spears is Instagram and
Speaker 1: my my core damazone just turned to Sandy. My core
Speaker 1: issue with Britney Spears is like I always want to
Speaker 1: know that it's a bit who can take care of herself,
Speaker 1: and like she legally can't take care of right, right
Speaker 1: right right? I know? I mean, yeah, that's that's the
Speaker 1: thing is. It's like now that now that I we
Speaker 1: have them literally putting themselves on Facebook live for seventy
Speaker 1: two hours, it's like, yeah, sure, like show so you
Speaker 1: really fucking are I think the media is too sensitive
Speaker 1: now for these people to keep up these ruses. I
Speaker 1: think that Taylor's it's convenient that Taylor shift got called
Speaker 1: out when she did, because literally, I think in the
Speaker 1: last two or three years you were able to keep
Speaker 1: up of aneer, whereas now you're not. Like, I don't
Speaker 1: think she could continue. She very clearly couldn't continue the
Speaker 1: princess thing, and because she was like a walking, breathing
Speaker 1: Disney princess that was the whole brand, but that obviously
Speaker 1: couldn't continue. It wasn't real. So now it's I hate
Speaker 1: our fictions of young womanhood that are meant to soothe dads,
Speaker 1: which was her whole thing, Which was her whole thing there.
Speaker 1: I think it was on like the Verge or something.
Speaker 1: It was this gigantic essay that was the title of
Speaker 1: It was just a unified theory on Taylor Swift, which
Speaker 1: was just reconciling both this like sweet, affable, likable side
Speaker 1: to her that was also like paired with this like cold,
Speaker 1: almost fishistic business person and like the parts that we're
Speaker 1: fascinating were obviously the parts about her being this very
Speaker 1: cunning business She has this quote where she was no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is the first profile they ever done on her,
Speaker 1: and Rolling Stone was she was baking cookies for her
Speaker 1: fans because they were over at the house listening. Do
Speaker 1: you know this story? She was baking cookies for her
Speaker 1: fans who were over at the house listening to cut
Speaker 1: from her new album, and she pulls out this tray
Speaker 1: of gorgeous looking cookies and then she's so excited she's
Speaker 1: about to go to the fridge to get the milk.
Speaker 1: She opens the fridge. There's no milk, but there is
Speaker 1: a bottle of half and half, and she goes, oh, wow,
Speaker 1: Mom did that. That wasn't me Mom bought that or like,
Speaker 1: and it was supposed to convey this thing of like
Speaker 1: she like, just as soon as the veneer cracks on,
Speaker 1: like this perfect curated thing, it's like it's like a
Speaker 1: fucking like, I don't I don't want to ust roll,
Speaker 1: but it's like a no, no, no, it's like it's
Speaker 1: like a get out thing. It's alwa, just not get out.
Speaker 1: You need to see get out. It's it's like the
Speaker 1: flashes being like sort of like the flash bulbus sort
Speaker 1: of going in her eye and she's like, oh, some
Speaker 1: thing the matrix is off. You know, yeah it was.
Speaker 1: It was incredible. It's incredible. It is the thing of
Speaker 1: however much we wind about being gay guys, like never
Speaker 1: having to have the full obligation of womanhood and like
Speaker 1: satisfying someone's expectations of you. There's this britishard historian who
Speaker 1: has the line um men act women appear, and it
Speaker 1: is just so devastating to sort of like understand what
Speaker 1: it is to try to be Taylor Swift when you
Speaker 1: have this obligation of appearing. Oh no, trust me, I don't.
Speaker 1: And I don't think I envy her. I think I
Speaker 1: envy like, you know, obviously how much money she has
Speaker 1: to have that she can do whatever she wants, but
Speaker 1: also she can't. So now i'msten into the new album
Speaker 1: and it's got these uh, you know, casual references to
Speaker 1: like we met up in a dive bar in the
Speaker 1: East Village and I'm like, no, you didn't know. You
Speaker 1: didn't because I went We went to this after party
Speaker 1: the other the other night, and it was like, she
Speaker 1: couldn't have been more like protected there, but there were
Speaker 1: still groups of people out. We were leaving the bar
Speaker 1: and it was a group with people with reputation signs.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, this never stops for you.
Speaker 1: That rumor that she was carried out in a fucking
Speaker 1: trunk I was like in a box that she got
Speaker 1: carried out of her apartment in a box. There was
Speaker 1: no way that was true. But the fact that we
Speaker 1: live in a world where people were like entertaining that
Speaker 1: is real. Like, well, she wanted to skip the fans,
Speaker 1: so she got carried out in the fucking box. That's
Speaker 1: her life. I am very much of the opinion that
Speaker 1: you never become that famous without inviting it upon yourself.
Speaker 1: Like there, she could be Carlie j ray Jepson if
Speaker 1: she wanted to be, but she didn't. She wanted to
Speaker 1: be the princess of America, and this is what you get.
Speaker 1: She wanted to be the most powerful person in the world,
Speaker 1: and she is. And honestly, that's what's crazy. But I
Speaker 1: will say that mixed with Okay, I'm gonna be more
Speaker 1: of my real self is interesting to me because have
Speaker 1: you listened to the new album at all? Okay, so
Speaker 1: she's singing about getting fucked for the first time, she
Speaker 1: sing about she's cursing for the first time, and she's
Speaker 1: being uh like knowingly petty and bitchy for the first time,
Speaker 1: whereas it was always like fuck you, I'm the best.
Speaker 1: And it's because I'm righteous and I know that at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I'm right, like but now
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I funked up because these are the
Speaker 1: mistakes I'm making. It's a pattern and I know that.
Speaker 1: But like the defensive definitely on a lot of it,
Speaker 1: like she still is who she is, but there's shades
Speaker 1: of gray now pretending to be dark. It seems like
Speaker 1: it would be annoying. I have to listen. I do
Speaker 1: love waiting for you guys. You have no idea. But
Speaker 1: on the podcast Lady to Lady I did several years
Speaker 1: before Lemonade call the Coming of Lemonade, I referred to
Speaker 1: it as the post divorce album because I under and
Speaker 1: overestimated Beyonce. But like having that actually come was just
Speaker 1: so like, oh God, you learned a lesson you like
Speaker 1: you here. This is full of less and that are
Speaker 1: on top of the astounding pop skills that you had
Speaker 1: before that. But I also want to say my favorite
Speaker 1: subgenre of songs is songs where women talk about the
Speaker 1: female orgasm or just sort of the the idea of
Speaker 1: like nobody does it better here you come again, but
Speaker 1: like um son of a Preacher man that are that
Speaker 1: sort of like deepen special relations. Here You Come Again?
Speaker 1: About having an orgasm? Um uh yeah, Like it's about
Speaker 1: like you're something up my mind and filling up my senses.
Speaker 1: It's like trying to get away from him. It's I've
Speaker 1: had to drinks now where you come? Yeah yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's like but it's talking about how his body is
Speaker 1: able to do things to her that nobody else's can,
Speaker 1: and so she can't get away my senses. Is there
Speaker 1: a better description of an orgasm than filling up my senses?
Speaker 1: There isn't Like she's an amazing lyricist that Dolly she
Speaker 1: did not write Here You Come Again. Yes, that was
Speaker 1: one of the fewest she didn't one of the great
Speaker 1: They rest upon me. Like why why I am always
Speaker 1: distanced from hipster culture? Is that? Like I like the
Speaker 1: Dolly Parton song that she didn't write. You know what
Speaker 1: it was that really discredits your hipster know, I just
Speaker 1: mean it, it's part of it is part of the
Speaker 1: enormous castle of poppy sensibilities Like that make me somebody
Speaker 1: who doesn't care about your singer songwriter status. I want
Speaker 1: a Swedish computer to write all of your songs. Because
Speaker 1: that was her quote unquote crossover song. That was her
Speaker 1: pop song Are You Come Again? Yes, that was the first,
Speaker 1: so much was it was, But she too had to
Speaker 1: cross over from country music because she was country country,
Speaker 1: old opery. She was a grand old opry come on,
Speaker 1: come on, and she had to before she got to
Speaker 1: nine to five, and like being played on radio and
Speaker 1: like being in films with Jane Fonda. You know, she
Speaker 1: was tree country and she needed and that song came
Speaker 1: at a time where she was trying to cross over
Speaker 1: to new fans. It was she still show Attack in
Speaker 1: many ways the original Taylor Swift because you know, they
Speaker 1: say Dolly Partner is hiding quite a bit of course.
Speaker 1: Oh and you guys, like you heard Rosie talking about Waitney,
Speaker 1: didn't you? Oh? Everyone? What did Rosie specifically said saying
Speaker 1: everyone knew you of all people bow and yang? She
Speaker 1: understand the persistent power of the closets. Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, I read this, do you want
Speaker 1: going to be truly? Do you want me to truly read? Now?
Speaker 1: Truly read? How many times did you have to come
Speaker 1: out gone twice? I know I'm just being in as
Speaker 1: I love what I have learned from you guys, about
Speaker 1: this show. I feel like I could steal your mom's identity,
Speaker 1: Like what do I know about Bowen's mom? That she
Speaker 1: would have been the surgeon general of China? She had
Speaker 1: stay that is all. But Katrina clarities like she's been revealed.
Speaker 1: I can trace her family back to Greece. That's crazy,
Speaker 1: I can't. I feel like I feel like I've picked
Speaker 1: up the same this the same sort of textured story
Speaker 1: of guys sort of upbringing too. But it's just I
Speaker 1: have no entry I have no entry point in today.
Speaker 1: I can't just walk up to sacrament like walk into
Speaker 1: your mom's house in Sacramento and be like, hello, I
Speaker 1: know so much about no one's allowed to walk into
Speaker 1: my mother's I text I was one of the many
Speaker 1: fags that texted you right after I saw Ladybird. I said,
Speaker 1: you have to go see it, did you? Yes? It
Speaker 1: meant so much to me that you did that. Uh,
Speaker 1: that movie like hit me hard. I didn't see It's
Speaker 1: always well it was. It was fascinating because like, um,
Speaker 1: nobody ever talked about Sacramento ever, and then other people
Speaker 1: comes out, which is like very set in Sacramento, and
Speaker 1: then Ladybird, which is even more Sacramento. Um, and that
Speaker 1: Greta Gerwiggs reading of Sacramento is so deeply rooted and
Speaker 1: Joan Diddy and is like the smartest thing ever and
Speaker 1: the sort of like withholding class, conscious, practical mother that like,
Speaker 1: it just sort of really hit me hard. And I
Speaker 1: immediately called my mom and started to fight with her.
Speaker 1: I just immediately called my mom and was like, we're
Speaker 1: going to fight for a while. But it was but
Speaker 1: it was comforting in a way. No, it was wonderful.
Speaker 1: That movie is so funny, it's so good. It doesn't
Speaker 1: make you a little bit mad. That credit cardwick is
Speaker 1: able to a little bit everything. Yeah, and it's you know,
Speaker 1: I did a movie with Greta Wait was this? I
Speaker 1: have done I stories about that movie. Can we get
Speaker 1: into that. We'll talk about later. She played one of
Speaker 1: Natalie Portman's friends and it was the three of us.
Speaker 1: That cast is fucking insane. The least interesting person in
Speaker 1: that cast is the male lead. Yes, I mean what, No,
Speaker 1: he's terrible. He's a horrible person. I hated working for him.
Speaker 1: The lowest point in my professional career was going from
Speaker 1: a situation where after that movie, Ashton Kutcher was actively
Speaker 1: frightened with me. He was actively aware that a conversation
Speaker 1: with me, and I never tried to make it happen.
Speaker 1: I was just trying to be as nice to the
Speaker 1: famous person as I could, and I couldn't help but
Speaker 1: accidentally point out ridiculously stupid things that he had said.
Speaker 1: And we went from that to me having to work
Speaker 1: for his fucking production company for almost a year. I
Speaker 1: need to work for him. It was so terrible because
Speaker 1: then he got to come like when he's paying my rent,
Speaker 1: he gets to be big dog. Yeah yeah, wait, that
Speaker 1: makes me sad. That makes me feel like Mila Kunis
Speaker 1: isn't cool now, I think she's wonderful, Like to me,
Speaker 1: she seems wonderful. You really want to believe it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I love I love a good I learned English from
Speaker 1: The Prices Right Story or or Crystella Alonso. Just we
Speaker 1: need that, honestly. You know what made me think that
Speaker 1: Mila was actually a fucking jim Well, the fact that
Speaker 1: you can feel here and everything she does, like she
Speaker 1: seems like she's the kind of actress who never plays
Speaker 1: far from herself because she probably can't. But also like
Speaker 1: that's fine because we love we got Jupiter ascending queens here?
Speaker 1: Are there any Jupiter ascending queens here? Jupiter sending is
Speaker 1: so good? Is good? No? Like it is? We gotta
Speaker 1: smoke and watch that. It is profoundly about Transnis, Like
Speaker 1: if I had watched it when I was like eleven
Speaker 1: or twelve years old, I would have fucking plots and
Speaker 1: given my life to it. It's not good, but I mean,
Speaker 1: Eddie Redmaid looks like the most beautiful woman in the world,
Speaker 1: a fucking, a fucking original ip like I give my
Speaker 1: life for same. Same these days still gets for like
Speaker 1: when Star Wars comes out and everything. But but here's
Speaker 1: what I was saying about Mila in the end credits
Speaker 1: of Bad Moms, which I just watched again the other day,
Speaker 1: which we saw and we were a study, and we
Speaker 1: were gagged for bad moms. We love bad moms, And
Speaker 1: at the end when they're all talking with their moms,
Speaker 1: that made me really feel very close to all of them.
Speaker 1: And I already have been a Christina Applegate stand since
Speaker 1: seven years old. I deeply, I have long maintained that
Speaker 1: brunette Christina Applegate provides you with all of you. Jennifer
Speaker 1: Aniston needs at half the cost. My god, that's rule
Speaker 1: of culture number three. A brunette Christina Applegate provides you
Speaker 1: with a the Jennifer Aston needs at half the cost.
Speaker 1: Guy I saw I saw Bad Moms like across the
Speaker 1: way on an airplane. I was like, what is that?
Speaker 1: And I have not let myself watch it because I
Speaker 1: love a mass market comedy so much, but I was
Speaker 1: not aware of it when it came out, and it
Speaker 1: makes me fear that it is going to be like
Speaker 1: not good a simulation of a good broadcast. I will
Speaker 1: tell you this, It's not as funny as Bridesmaids, but
Speaker 1: literally nothing is. And it's actually it's actually funny. It's
Speaker 1: funny and um or did you not like it? I
Speaker 1: liked it? No, we all liked we all liked it.
Speaker 1: I am I have to. I have to point out
Speaker 1: this weird thing I have with Bad Moms. It's not
Speaker 1: a thing at all, but it was just something that
Speaker 1: like was a blip on my radar. I haven't heard
Speaker 1: this like all like you. You watch the credits, the
Speaker 1: opening sort of packages like three different Chinese production companies,
Speaker 1: and like I'm like, oh, is this what Hollywood might
Speaker 1: be in like a decade or so is like a
Speaker 1: bunch of like Chinese, specifically Chinese production companies bank rolling
Speaker 1: all these alright, but also, let me tell you not
Speaker 1: a bad thing. Look having one's ear to the ground
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. There once was a time when I
Speaker 1: would say, like and having this being marketable in China
Speaker 1: or India, like you would say that, they would be like, no, no,
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter, that doesn't matter. A challenge, um, and
Speaker 1: it is kind of interesting and exciting. Yeah, pretty great
Speaker 1: that I didn't realize that that it was like Chinese
Speaker 1: production companies that made that movie. And yeah, and I
Speaker 1: sort of framed that as like a hang up. It's
Speaker 1: not a hang up at all. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: this is a thing I'm noticing, and it starts. I
Speaker 1: did notice that I didn't recognize the production company. There
Speaker 1: was another there's another movie that I saw. I think
Speaker 1: it might have been A Baby Driver that also had
Speaker 1: all these these these Chinese credits. No, no, it was
Speaker 1: Edge of seventeen. We have to talk about Hayley Steinfeld. No, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we're saving that for the show. No, but we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about it right now. Do you read Chinese? And
Speaker 1: I can't read to the characters. I can read like
Speaker 1: maybe five percent of the characters, and they're all the sudden.
Speaker 1: Because that's the thing where like there's no acquiring skills.
Speaker 1: You just have to learn the characters individually and then
Speaker 1: and just know their meanings paired with other characters. It's
Speaker 1: truly an insane language. Like I started to pick up
Speaker 1: Korean recently and I was literally doing and I got angry.
Speaker 1: I started I just started to like learn like the alphabet,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, the fact that there's a
Speaker 1: phonetic alphabet is so unfair. I'm like, I was, I
Speaker 1: was mad. I was like, oh, like my upbringing learning
Speaker 1: this other language, like my quote unquote mother tongue or whatever,
Speaker 1: is like so much harder than the Korean kids in Denver,
Speaker 1: and they're and they're everywhere in Denver, um who just
Speaker 1: grew up speaking Korean and just like being able to
Speaker 1: read it so easily. And I was like why, like
Speaker 1: why is that anyway? The factors they have an alphabet
Speaker 1: but Um of seventeen all the huge Chinese. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: Bowen referenced Edge of seventeen recently as like one of
Speaker 1: those new coming age movies that's like actually good that
Speaker 1: even the critics pointed to him, they said, hey, this
Speaker 1: want to see. And I was interested because Hailey Stein
Speaker 1: felt to someone I've always been like mildly interested in.
Speaker 1: After she got was it MASCAR nomination for she? Ascar
Speaker 1: nomination for that? And you know, in Pitch Perfect, and
Speaker 1: then she released interesting that master very much about masturbation song,
Speaker 1: um gotta lovest else. Hey, we recently learned she's a Republican. Right,
Speaker 1: Oh that's what. How did you know? Did you tell
Speaker 1: you I forget Lewis Vertell or one of you on
Speaker 1: I am it must have been Lewis. Then Joe told
Speaker 1: us that he we won't say how he knows, but
Speaker 1: confirmed that she voted for Trump Calabasas like answer is
Speaker 1: just the West Valley. It is a different and magical place,
Speaker 1: and apply she talked openly about it on the set
Speaker 1: of Pitch Perfect, thing about how she was voting for
Speaker 1: Trump and she's like barely Filipino, also fucking Jewish, right,
Speaker 1: like she's a jew of color technically Filipino Jewish. And
Speaker 1: you know what, guy, it was me. It was, oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's how wasted I am of like up
Speaker 1: here at all times, I was the one that said,
Speaker 1: as you. I was like, gud, we have horrible news.
Speaker 1: Thank you for apprising me of that. Matt. I still
Speaker 1: have not seen Edge of seventeen because there is a
Speaker 1: way that I will get like frightened of these things
Speaker 1: that could be something I enjoyed greatly, or just like pointing.
Speaker 1: I'm the same way. Whenever there's like a big I'm
Speaker 1: like that would get out. I'm like that with Ladybird
Speaker 1: right now. Whenever there's like a big thing everyone's talking about,
Speaker 1: I'm like, let me take a second and I will
Speaker 1: see it. I still haven't. No, I won't even say that.
Speaker 1: What come on, come on, I still haven't seen other
Speaker 1: people because I know I'm going to enjoy it so
Speaker 1: much and I know it's going to affect me so
Speaker 1: deeply that I'll be out for in a weekend. It's
Speaker 1: also one of the other fascinating things about it, my friends,
Speaker 1: is just realizing how like the telling game mail stories
Speaker 1: is about silence in such significant ways that figuring out
Speaker 1: how to tell them is interesting. Brian Louder and Slight
Speaker 1: Magazine are Slate once said that he questioned whether it
Speaker 1: was possible to tell like emotionally relevant gay mail stories
Speaker 1: without some elements of fantasy to them. And I love
Speaker 1: that a great deal, um, because like other people is
Speaker 1: so good. Okay, I have to tell you. In Other People,
Speaker 1: there is a moment where Jesse what's his name sits
Speaker 1: behind um Molly Shannon while she puts on makeup and
Speaker 1: he talks to her while she is getting ready to
Speaker 1: go to this party that they're having at their house.
Speaker 1: And it was like a thing from my life that
Speaker 1: I had never seen represented me. That was like the
Speaker 1: like I hate I have a passionate hatred of fucking
Speaker 1: representations of boys and their dogs or dad's throwing footballs
Speaker 1: with their son, fuck you and your head normative like
Speaker 1: like normality. But seeing this equivalent of that from my life,
Speaker 1: I was just like wrecked. I think you're saying that
Speaker 1: I can smell the hair spraying. Yes, yes, the most
Speaker 1: glamorous woman in the world is Katrina Clara. She is
Speaker 1: she is and you and yeah, and specifically hairsprayed for
Speaker 1: you just because of what your mom did does. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we literally had a salon, a little salon
Speaker 1: hair yeah, she's we had. It was like a gay
Speaker 1: boys dream. We had like a little salon in her
Speaker 1: house where she would have clients and she'd work out
Speaker 1: of the house a couple of days a week, and
Speaker 1: then she works in the shop as well, like one
Speaker 1: of two days a week, and uh, I would just
Speaker 1: have that room to do my hair in the morning.
Speaker 1: Have you seen called me by your name yet? Or
Speaker 1: if you like not, have you read it. I'm reading
Speaker 1: it now, and I'm i gotta say, I'm not fully
Speaker 1: on board yet with just the pacing of it, because
Speaker 1: I'm just like, there, it's just tense staring there there.
Speaker 1: Nothing has happened yet. Apparently there's a peach scene that
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be waiting for you. No, but I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the horrible thing about our stories is that there
Speaker 1: is so much fear involved because there's so much like
Speaker 1: like pausing and everything. Um, it's it's all of it
Speaker 1: is just waiting. That's yeah, that's that's part of like
Speaker 1: the gay narrative is just like some repression of a moment. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm like I was trying to remember the thing that
Speaker 1: that I when I'm saying it was this that like
Speaker 1: when they made a movie version of The Handman's Tail,
Speaker 1: it was terrible and when they made the TV version,
Speaker 1: it's great. The difference is v O. The difference is
Speaker 1: being inside of her head and realizing she's still a
Speaker 1: person like you. And I feel like with a with
Speaker 1: a novel, when you're dealing with law intense looks, you're
Speaker 1: able to sort of like fill it up Henry Jane
Speaker 1: style with like what people, what's going on inside? But
Speaker 1: like when it's a fucking movie like so frequently look.
Speaker 1: My opinions on looking are very well recorded, but I like,
Speaker 1: I don't want this boring gay story where nothing happens
Speaker 1: and people are scared all the time. I don't need realism.
Speaker 1: We live in every fucking day. We're tired of it.
Speaker 1: So that's what it is. It's just every gay narrative
Speaker 1: needs some element of fantasy. People give us some bomb best,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, come on, it's rule number sixteen
Speaker 1: of culture. Give us some bomb best. Come on, guy,
Speaker 1: let's finally get to the question. No, I feel like
Speaker 1: it's too late for that. I feel like we need
Speaker 1: to take a break because we literally at the moment
Speaker 1: where we get back. When we get back, bitch, that
Speaker 1: is when we have to ask Guy Brandon the the
Speaker 1: you know, pinnacle question of this podcast, and because we've
Speaker 1: been having too much goddamn fun, we're not going to
Speaker 1: get there. And then he says he has a question
Speaker 1: for us. Oh, I can't wait for something. But before
Speaker 1: we get to our break, let's read a five star review.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do this, um, you know, we're gonna try
Speaker 1: something out I think a little bit new. These are
Speaker 1: some five star reviews from our Apple podcast page. Guys,
Speaker 1: please leave us a fin I hope that you will
Speaker 1: leave us a five star review, because you, guys, we want,
Speaker 1: we wanted to be seen out there in the world,
Speaker 1: you know, get us out there, help us get visible. Honey.
Speaker 1: This is um a review submitted by Ka with many
Speaker 1: exclamation points. The title of this review is barbar. It's
Speaker 1: a reference to our Christian Bartlett episode five stars. This
Speaker 1: podcast regularly makes me laugh out loud. For a dead inside,
Speaker 1: black souled monster like me, that's saying quite a bit. Ca. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, car and thank you for submitting your review
Speaker 1: like a true barbar bitch. Now we we love you
Speaker 1: so much. Let's cut to our break. We'll be right
Speaker 1: back with Guy Brandow Yes, and we're back with Guy
Speaker 1: sure Are and before we took the break, we we
Speaker 1: did tease that we would ask this question. Let's ask
Speaker 1: the question you ask so, um, guy brand Um, this
Speaker 1: is the question that we ask every guest that appears
Speaker 1: upon lost cultures. Thus, I'm entirely unfamiliar with that happens
Speaker 1: upon ared for it in any way. Well, um, we'd
Speaker 1: like to ask you, what is the culture that you know?
Speaker 1: It's the culture that when you when you opened the
Speaker 1: door one day, there it was, you know, it was
Speaker 1: it was a little package of culture and it said
Speaker 1: you picked it up and shook it from ear to
Speaker 1: ear and you said, whatever is inside here, this is
Speaker 1: going to be what sets me on a journey, and
Speaker 1: that that journey is culture. That journey is your individual culture.
Speaker 1: This is not your standard phrasing, your standard phrasing. Is
Speaker 1: what made you realize cultures for you? And after having
Speaker 1: like parsed this question significantly to myself and trying to
Speaker 1: figure out what, like where is the starting point when
Speaker 1: do we say, like I jumped off the rails of
Speaker 1: conventional humanity. Uh, The answer that I had very much
Speaker 1: prepped that like what made me realize culture was for
Speaker 1: me was Deborah gene Brandim the City, California. Um. But
Speaker 1: since you have said what culture, I suppose I have
Speaker 1: to give you another answer. No, no, no, whatever answer
Speaker 1: you want, honey, I will not be responsible for you
Speaker 1: listening about to this and saying, wow, I didn't represent
Speaker 1: myself culturally in the way that I would like, because that,
Speaker 1: like so many people do, come here with like a
Speaker 1: concrete text. And when I was thinking about it, I
Speaker 1: thought a lot about um like uh like Greek mythology,
Speaker 1: I thought about a lot. I thought about the Lord
Speaker 1: of the Rings. But I also very significantly thought about
Speaker 1: like it used to be before cable that old movies
Speaker 1: were shown on UHF stations in the summertime. Do you
Speaker 1: know anything about that? None of those words mean anything
Speaker 1: to you. Don't know, I don't know. Okay, So there
Speaker 1: were there were stations that were your networks, your NBC,
Speaker 1: your ABC, your CBS. This is before Fox, and then
Speaker 1: you would have like three other channels that were just
Speaker 1: like whatever the funk they could put together, like it
Speaker 1: was where you watched your cartoons after school. Um. And
Speaker 1: then during the summertime when there was not like network
Speaker 1: stuff being shown, the ones in Sacramento which show old movies.
Speaker 1: But because it was Sacramento. They could not they couldn't
Speaker 1: afford all about Eve, like they couldn't afford the Philadelphia story.
Speaker 1: And so the two I will particularly say are arsenic
Speaker 1: and old Lacey and bell Book and Candle. I will
Speaker 1: say Arsenic and old Lace does not hold up. No,
Speaker 1: it doesn't. It doesn't carry Grant movie The Woman You're
Speaker 1: Going to Love The premise nobody. This guy lives in
Speaker 1: Brooklyn and he goes to take his new bride to
Speaker 1: meet his two aunts. And his two aunts are serial murders.
Speaker 1: They're putting, they're putting poison. They get they get older
Speaker 1: bachelors and who they think are sad, and then they
Speaker 1: like believe that they are humanly euthanizing them. And then
Speaker 1: they have his brother, who believes he is Teddy Roosevelt
Speaker 1: bury them in the basements. It's kind of like get Out,
Speaker 1: Yes it is. Wow, it's all that's sort of connecting
Speaker 1: back to get Out. That's fun. No. I was actually
Speaker 1: thinking about it today because, like the original play was
Speaker 1: read as sort of like a commentary on the tension
Speaker 1: between America wanting to be so libertine and like our
Speaker 1: dark history, and I was sort of like interesting what
Speaker 1: is a racialized, arsenic and old lace. Let's step forward.
Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about bell book and candle. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: not familiar. What is bell book and candle? Okay. So
Speaker 1: it's in the mid nineteen fifties. Kim Novak is a
Speaker 1: sassy witch who lives in the West Village. Jimmy Jimmy
Speaker 1: Stewart lives in her building, and she finds out that
Speaker 1: he is engaged to the girl who was her bully
Speaker 1: at Vassar or Radcliffe. Like it's we're talking about college
Speaker 1: bully from a seven sister school because let us remember
Speaker 1: most Ivy League schools do not let women in until
Speaker 1: the eighties. Um, So she has a spell making him
Speaker 1: fall in love with her. It's a nine teen fifties movie.
Speaker 1: So in the end she does realize that being in
Speaker 1: love is more important than being a witch, and it
Speaker 1: all falls apart and is terrible. But guys, the like
Speaker 1: which culture is all sort of like like beat nick
Speaker 1: West Village underground bar, like it's the coolest fucking thing
Speaker 1: you've ever seen, and Kim Novak is just like never
Speaker 1: not being glorious and wearing capri pants like it's just
Speaker 1: she saunters like a cat. Every fucking moment elsa Lanchester
Speaker 1: and her minemy Gangold, who are like, yes, like it
Speaker 1: is just classic biddies and like as a child on
Speaker 1: like a sweaty sweaty like Sacramento Valley, like evening in
Speaker 1: the summertime was just like this is like raw glamour
Speaker 1: like to me. To me like witchcraft and French breeding
Speaker 1: felt like things that were just out of reach that
Speaker 1: all women understood. So how do you fall load the
Speaker 1: like pop culture which is ever since you Stevie Nicks fan? Yes,
Speaker 1: I love pop culture, which is I hate when whiches
Speaker 1: go away from us. I love when which is returned
Speaker 1: to us, which is are returning? I like we had
Speaker 1: long vampire period that I had no taste for. No,
Speaker 1: but also even true blood they had witches, which is no.
Speaker 1: I think witches have been a perennial sort of have
Speaker 1: had this perennial appeal for just since time and memorial. Um,
Speaker 1: I feel like witches have always been with us, wouldn't
Speaker 1: you say? I would bowen gang like they eben flow
Speaker 1: along with everything else. Female agency. Female agency has its
Speaker 1: moments in pop culture and then they go away. Practical
Speaker 1: magic was a beautiful moment, but you point me to
Speaker 1: good witches of the early two thousands, Sabrina, Sabrina, I
Speaker 1: don't know if that counts. It was from the nineties,
Speaker 1: wasn't it. I guess you can tell you guys. Can
Speaker 1: I sell you guys? A spoiler from um from Talk
Speaker 1: Show The Game Show season one point five it's not
Speaker 1: technically a second season. Uh, Melissa john Hart and Caroline
Speaker 1: Rain did the show together? No, it was just twin
Speaker 1: things of In the middle of my interview completely on prepped,
Speaker 1: I brought up an interview she did one time where
Speaker 1: she talked shit at ABC for overpromoting Clueless the TV
Speaker 1: show and not Sabrina the Teenage which and it was
Speaker 1: one of the most baller moments I've ever seen from her,
Speaker 1: and she like clearly loosened up when that happened. But
Speaker 1: then watching her compete against Caroline right was one of
Speaker 1: the most satisfying things to talk about that. Okay, so
Speaker 1: what happened show that we can temn about it. That's
Speaker 1: all I want to know is how Melissa john Hart
Speaker 1: and Caroline Race shows off show down? What about Ann Zelta? Oh,
Speaker 1: Beth Beth Roderick was not pressed. She wasn't available. Wait
Speaker 1: they were on the same episode. Passed for a moment
Speaker 1: because I need to we need to properly discuss the
Speaker 1: piece of culture that you guys have brought to me
Speaker 1: meant the most to name, right, This is the question
Speaker 1: you don't want to ask. He's come with a demand
Speaker 1: to the studio. Yes, can we can? We guess? First?
Speaker 1: Is I don't? I don't know? Guess guess I like
Speaker 1: I like gamifying anything. What piece of culture have we
Speaker 1: brought That's one of the rules of culture. Isn't it
Speaker 1: that culture? UM? That experience, that experience. What piece of
Speaker 1: culture have we introduced to God that he has loved?
Speaker 1: Trying to think he's reached out about any particular thing, anatomy,
Speaker 1: I have reached out, not to you guys. What Oh
Speaker 1: my god, you know what? I give up? Okay, well,
Speaker 1: what if I want to know? I want to know um.
Speaker 1: On an earlier episode of this podcast, you referred to
Speaker 1: two people as being I believe you personally met. Matt
Speaker 1: Rodgers referred to two people as being the finest sketch
Speaker 1: performers in New York. Do you remember at all? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Gosh, Warms in New York? Was it Darcy
Speaker 1: and Michael. No, it's uh Brita and Maven. My god, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so yep, Brin and Maven McNerney. The parents are Beth
Speaker 1: Newell and Peter McNerney. You can follow them on Instagram,
Speaker 1: and they have glorious performer children. I look, I do
Speaker 1: not give a shit about your dog. I don't care
Speaker 1: if you're captain something in doorable, I don't care at all.
Speaker 1: I like myself a nice three year old. Makes me
Speaker 1: feel very very creepy to be looking at the children
Speaker 1: of somebody I didn't know. So I like said to Beth, Hello,
Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know your children are the greatest
Speaker 1: sketch performers in New York. And like they aren't so
Speaker 1: funny funny, they are so great. And like Brin like
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure it out today and like
Speaker 1: he thinks that are so in age. He's like and
Speaker 1: he's just he's just such a character. He's just like
Speaker 1: a suave three year old, just suavely letting you know
Speaker 1: how it's going. And then like and then you go
Speaker 1: to Maven, who is that agent of chaos and you
Speaker 1: never know what's going to happen, and I have to
Speaker 1: tell you the most exciting moment in my pop culture
Speaker 1: life was an incident at the party where he was
Speaker 1: he was doing a little bit like, uh, Maven needs
Speaker 1: a time out, and he's like very much like telling
Speaker 1: his little powder to his parents, trying to manipulate things,
Speaker 1: and then Maven, who I did not know could speak,
Speaker 1: screams know at him, and it was just like ship
Speaker 1: I went there to be like a reunion episode where
Speaker 1: An interviews everyone about that moment. Honestly, he also had
Speaker 1: a really sassy moment recently where he said, um, I'm
Speaker 1: not going He was just like he kept repeating, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to be nice to my friend or or
Speaker 1: I'm we have to find miss Emily says that hitting
Speaker 1: is okay, I'm going to hit my friend. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Bran is on record. They were like, really, if we
Speaker 1: call your teacher, she's going to okay and she go
Speaker 1: he goes yeah, like he's I'm trying to think about
Speaker 1: what because it's like classic comedy duo and like he's
Speaker 1: a little bit Jennifer Saunders like I'm trying to find it.
Speaker 1: You keep talking, but just like he's like he's always
Speaker 1: got powder going and I love like it's it's so
Speaker 1: vaudeville that there's one who talks and talks too much
Speaker 1: and one who can't talk. Well, you have to follow
Speaker 1: um Peter McNerney at mcnan at m I c N
Speaker 1: E n and then Beth hers is. And the thing is,
Speaker 1: you got to Beth for the short form content, you
Speaker 1: got to Peter for the long term concept. Dethel b
Speaker 1: E t h N E W l L. All right
Speaker 1: now I have to find really quickly. I want to
Speaker 1: say Brenn has been has has been documented as saying
Speaker 1: the words I don't think so, honey, No he did,
Speaker 1: he said it. He said, Wait, what are you looking for?
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the comedy sense of Bill. Cities of
Speaker 1: Peter and Beth are are like their capabilities are so
Speaker 1: evident from the way they just know how much of
Speaker 1: them to capture and when to go to the other one.
Speaker 1: We're both amazing. It's the edit and the content in
Speaker 1: a perfect marriage. And oh god, yeah, you know what.
Speaker 1: I never realized that it was the spot vilion thing
Speaker 1: of like one doesn't speak and then one is always,
Speaker 1: always always speaking, always talking. Then maybe pours a beer
Speaker 1: on somebody. Oh my god, maybe maybe. I thought it's
Speaker 1: interesting that you say maybe is sort of this agent
Speaker 1: of chaos, because I feel like maybe is just the past.
Speaker 1: You hate your friends? She said, you could hit your friends. Yes,
Speaker 1: she said, just said your friends fast. I don't think
Speaker 1: she said that. I think she said no hitting your friends.
Speaker 1: She said, should we asked her on my day? Should
Speaker 1: we asked her if she said that, yes, send me
Speaker 1: your to talk to me and my friends and get
Speaker 1: my friend. The conversation ends of the declarative sentence, not
Speaker 1: a response to any of that's been said. It's just
Speaker 1: I'm done with this conversation, and just to refresh the
Speaker 1: thesis of it was I'm going to continue hitting my friends.
Speaker 1: But I was respond to your point because yes, for
Speaker 1: such a long time, Maven was a pansy. But like
Speaker 1: like her as a younger child, her growing rage, like,
Speaker 1: I just look forward to the forms that it takes. Also,
Speaker 1: she's her mouth is always somewhat wet. There's probably jelly
Speaker 1: on her somewhere. They're two amazing kids, they really are.
Speaker 1: I one time there was some early videos of brit
Speaker 1: I was act at the comedic capability. I was like
Speaker 1: this is how did you become aware of them? Because
Speaker 1: I'm good friends with the parents, so I mean through no, no, no.
Speaker 1: We do UM Story Pirates, which is a company that
Speaker 1: takes stories that kids right, and you know what, it's
Speaker 1: rule number thirteen culture bitch. It's not just for the
Speaker 1: viewers now, Peter McNerney, they turned them into pieces of theater.
Speaker 1: We take kids, they write stories were trying to pieces
Speaker 1: of theater. Peter McNerney is the associate artistic director of
Speaker 1: this company. And my first contact with Brynn was when
Speaker 1: he was like six months old. He's on his high
Speaker 1: chair and this was the first comedic moment that I
Speaker 1: think is on record is um Peter. Peter does like
Speaker 1: a little thing with his mouth and then Bryn copies
Speaker 1: him and does it like six months old, and then
Speaker 1: Peter laughs and Bryn laughs, and just I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: there's no meeting thing there, but the fact that he's
Speaker 1: able to repeat something back to his father, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: get out. It's amazing. It's like, it is wonderful. What
Speaker 1: makes children like the things that hit them as laughter?
Speaker 1: And I wonder how much of them are copied or
Speaker 1: how much of them are just sort of like two
Speaker 1: things that shouldn't go together are now happening. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: which is comedy. Yes, Yes, Okay, let's let's have this
Speaker 1: conversation kids. Yes or no. I would say for me no,
Speaker 1: because I feel like I would know now at twenty
Speaker 1: seven that I would want them at some point, at
Speaker 1: the height of your fertility exactly. I'm in my sexual prime.
Speaker 1: By the way, the male sexual prime is so that
Speaker 1: means we're all out of it. Dang. Yes, I was
Speaker 1: implying you were a woman. I wasn't trying any way
Speaker 1: to comment your male sexuality. No, I would be just
Speaker 1: entering my sexual prime, which is of course from But
Speaker 1: the thing is is like it is nice that as
Speaker 1: a man you can have them whenever, but also you
Speaker 1: shouldn't have them whenever. No. I well, I always kind
Speaker 1: of come from myself. My dad had me when he
Speaker 1: was thirty five, and so that's always like, well, I
Speaker 1: have time. You know. My parents were eighteen and nineteen
Speaker 1: when my sister was born, and there is that, like
Speaker 1: there's such weirdness around the fact that like they were
Speaker 1: never adults without children, like it is that's crazy those
Speaker 1: people can have children. My grandmother was seventeen, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that was just how things worked. It was like, that's
Speaker 1: what women are for seventeen Yeah, I can't imagine. I
Speaker 1: can't imagine either, he can. God, the lost culture rests
Speaker 1: public need a sense of healing after trash talking that
Speaker 1: came around Culture Wars, because God knows, I loved Culture
Speaker 1: Wars and I loved playing the game of hostility. But
Speaker 1: they were you were a team, and it was really hurtful. No.
Speaker 1: I specifically took opposite sides on two different questions in
Speaker 1: ways that tore me up. Yes, yes, I took Race
Speaker 1: Honey over Allison. Um there was Allison, right, she got
Speaker 1: too sick to compete, and so Mitro Juhari sweet Mitra
Speaker 1: took her place. Yes, but but probably because you said that. Yes, Um,
Speaker 1: then you picked Sam over Dave. But then I took
Speaker 1: Sam over Day. Why would you ever do that? Tore
Speaker 1: me apart? Because Sam Tigger is just a well of chaos.
Speaker 1: I like. I love it. I love that the Brooklyn
Speaker 1: Faget comedy scene is rich enough that we can have
Speaker 1: like absurdist of his skill level. But I love that
Speaker 1: he's still a gay comic enough that he can I
Speaker 1: don't think so, Honey, with the best of them. There
Speaker 1: you go, but not still not as well as Dave
Speaker 1: Sam has his foot and a bunch of has many feet,
Speaker 1: a bunch of legs and feet, and a bunch of
Speaker 1: different little territories and sensibilities and what have you, and
Speaker 1: t six seeds in all. All right, Well, I would
Speaker 1: like to, I guess, come out and say that if
Speaker 1: anything that I said really hurt you, if I ever
Speaker 1: hurt you in the trash talking of culture two seventeen,
Speaker 1: I apologize because now I know I didn't need to
Speaker 1: say anything because I was going to win the whole time.
Speaker 1: Can I just I just can I just say it
Speaker 1: was lovely to watch the process, just to see like
Speaker 1: you've got all of your Long Island rage from all
Speaker 1: of those boys who were mean to you, that it
Speaker 1: is just like dying to come out in any moment. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I love that process oriented peacemaker bow and Yang
Speaker 1: was always trying to explain why things like when you
Speaker 1: went into well, the picks I made were me trying
Speaker 1: to avoid conflict. I was like, bitch, believe in your
Speaker 1: own post. I was offended. He started. He was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, but why, it's why At the end of
Speaker 1: the day. I was team Bowing because I was like
Speaker 1: conflict avoid and rules. Yeah, because you know what, like,
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't like this whole culture,
Speaker 1: which is we don't want to root for people that
Speaker 1: want to win that I wanted to win and guess
Speaker 1: what I won again. I want again. I want Battle
Speaker 1: of the Davits. I want a culture. I am so
Speaker 1: much better than you, and it is so amazing for me.
Speaker 1: Matt could do a favor. Don't want me because now
Speaker 1: I'm mad the worst part of all of this better,
Speaker 1: it's yet another it's yet another competition with which Matt
Speaker 1: will relitigate. Yes I do. I do very much appreciate now, mad.
Speaker 1: I have been in this business long enough that I
Speaker 1: fear for people I truly love and respect who do
Speaker 1: not believe in themselves to want to win at any costs,
Speaker 1: and so I do very much. I do want to
Speaker 1: say one thing drop back dropping a lot of this. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: I want to say one thing. Literally, I had people
Speaker 1: asking me like, I was like, who do you who
Speaker 1: are you rooting for? Like as like a joke, and
Speaker 1: they're like, well, I'm rooting for bod because I think
Speaker 1: that you'll take the loss a little bit better than Bowen.
Speaker 1: I was like, if you knew how little we actually cared,
Speaker 1: like we don't care who wins, it would have a
Speaker 1: good fucking show. Bitch, I don't care who wins. I
Speaker 1: truly give no ship. But people were like, I guess
Speaker 1: they were believing the ship talk enough when they were
Speaker 1: and this is maybe we shouldn't be revealing this because
Speaker 1: we will should talk again, want to believe it and
Speaker 1: be in there with it. But girl, we were okay,
Speaker 1: there was no her feelings. And then that's when I realized,
Speaker 1: oh no, I can't say the same things for the competitors.
Speaker 1: And I hope that none of the competitors feel bad
Speaker 1: that they might have lost a k a lost around
Speaker 1: because they all were amazing like that when you guys
Speaker 1: were doing the breakdowns. I enjoyed that episode so much,
Speaker 1: like the backstory was so rich and beautiful. Um, but
Speaker 1: I was just like, really, were I have to say
Speaker 1: one thing about part one of Cultural Works. It's like,
Speaker 1: after you guys did the breakdowns of everyone, I went
Speaker 1: back and I really listened to uh before the storm,
Speaker 1: these young girls, the young girls, which is in my opinion,
Speaker 1: possibly the greatest I don't think so, honey, that's ever
Speaker 1: been produced, not by the two of you. Uh. And
Speaker 1: then just seeing Pat go down so hard, so hard
Speaker 1: in that first round was really rough. And then to
Speaker 1: know what happened, which is that he hasn't listened to
Speaker 1: the second You haven't. You haven't, you haven't, you haven't
Speaker 1: posted it yet. How would I knowsteners at a time
Speaker 1: of this release, it hasn't oposed it and it is
Speaker 1: well known who wins culture right, well, we basically just
Speaker 1: spoiled it. I don't know. I don't, I don't want to,
Speaker 1: don't don't you want to allow me to be a fan? Also,
Speaker 1: if you guys need to build a fantasy team website
Speaker 1: so hard before you do Culture Wars again, because maybe
Speaker 1: we'll go out to l A and do Culture Wars
Speaker 1: where I don't give a funk if they get offended
Speaker 1: or not, because I don't know them. Like Lewis, we
Speaker 1: Tell and I were talking about how much we need
Speaker 1: you guys to come and do Culture Wars. We want
Speaker 1: to come out there and do it, we really do,
Speaker 1: but I think I think we need to. How do
Speaker 1: you what do you think about this? We need to
Speaker 1: start with the regular I don't think so, honey. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think we just need to go out there and
Speaker 1: do and I don't think that. And then can I
Speaker 1: say something like, from the bottom of my heart to
Speaker 1: both of you. When I go to the Virgil or
Speaker 1: CB Sunset or wherever this actually takes place, and I
Speaker 1: see just how packed the place is, and then every
Speaker 1: faggot of note who was not booked for the show
Speaker 1: is in the audience, I will be jealous. I will
Speaker 1: be actively like two young men pretty, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: don't you ever? Don't you ever? You have a fucking
Speaker 1: joy show. Know, we emitted packets and we're around packets
Speaker 1: and jealousy. You told us he gave us hope. That's
Speaker 1: because there was a packet that referenced Lost Cultures does
Speaker 1: and what I assumed it was one of the two
Speaker 1: of you, And I was like, oh, this great packet.
Speaker 1: It's wonderful someone someone wrote a packet to your show
Speaker 1: in reference. Yes, it was, because it was because fucking
Speaker 1: star Rashida Crockett, who did end up getting hired from
Speaker 1: my shows as a fucking research monster, who, like for
Speaker 1: every person, had done like deep, deep research. And I
Speaker 1: was and what did what was do you remember the reference? Oh,
Speaker 1: it was that Rachel Bloom had said on this show
Speaker 1: that she loved peanut butter on toast for breakfast. So
Speaker 1: it was a pitch for a game that was in
Speaker 1: some way about peanut bar on toast. The fact that
Speaker 1: we helped this person get a job and and and
Speaker 1: lay here pennelists. Um, I will say that your shout
Speaker 1: outs on Pop Rocket gave us like the lasting boost
Speaker 1: that we like have been No. I was totally at
Speaker 1: the gym and a guy came up to me and said,
Speaker 1: I know his name is Nico's friend. Yes, And he
Speaker 1: was like, are you guy? And I was like yes,
Speaker 1: and he's like I'm a huge fan of Lost Culture
Speaker 1: Ristas and I was like oh. And then he explained
Speaker 1: how he learned about it from my podcast, of which
Speaker 1: he did not miss. I guy were at He pursued
Speaker 1: He he his media diet is all podcasts. He listens
Speaker 1: to everyone. I'm sure he listens to Pop Rocket. Religious
Speaker 1: have to say something I like After the election, I
Speaker 1: had a hard not able to listen to podcasts in
Speaker 1: any way. And my recent like car trip to Sacramento
Speaker 1: and Lost Culture Restas was my return to being able
Speaker 1: to listen. To my god, we were. We were Christina
Speaker 1: Yank Sandra's character catching a big fish after not being
Speaker 1: able to operate. Oh my god, I I do remember
Speaker 1: when she had like postraumatic stress and couldn't operate. Yes,
Speaker 1: and then she caught a fish and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden was better. Right. Um No, I wanted to say, guy,
Speaker 1: your shout outs on Pop Rocket were. Um, I think
Speaker 1: they were. They were a moment for me because I
Speaker 1: had never heard someone so actually described me and Matt
Speaker 1: in such a simple way. You described me as well.
Speaker 1: You described Matt of course in his like you know,
Speaker 1: he's a product of Long Island masculinity, and here he
Speaker 1: is now and he's the biggest of all faggots now,
Speaker 1: which is glorious, Like what a great one eighty, what
Speaker 1: a great heel turn musical theater? Yes, yes, I believe.
Speaker 1: And then for me you described me as part someone
Speaker 1: but part Crystal Carrington. And I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: and I fucking died because you are You are a
Speaker 1: fucking Joan. You're the Joan Collins to Mike Crystal. You're
Speaker 1: the Alexis to Mike Crystal. Oh and guy, that was
Speaker 1: very nice of you to to mention us A big
Speaker 1: fan of the show, glad to finally be here, piste Off,
Speaker 1: I was not able to be here for either Culture
Speaker 1: Wars or I don't think so, Honey Lives. It makes
Speaker 1: me angry, but also it will drive us to come
Speaker 1: out there. When will be a good time for us
Speaker 1: to come out there to Los Angeles? Tell us, um,
Speaker 1: I mean anytime if you showed up, I mean like
Speaker 1: the danger but also the magic of showing up splashly
Speaker 1: in February. Well everyone's there for Pilot's season. That would
Speaker 1: be a little fierce. It would be. But where should
Speaker 1: we do it though? Because I don't want I want to.
Speaker 1: I want to do it at a good place. I
Speaker 1: mean something is I do imagine this in my head
Speaker 1: where where Like it's always been at the Virgil in
Speaker 1: my head. But I don't think that's big enough. Well,
Speaker 1: l A Lost Cultures does fans? You let us know
Speaker 1: in your five star review on iTunes where you want
Speaker 1: us to come. I have never been able to get
Speaker 1: the l A Game Lesbian Center to uh to toss
Speaker 1: their theater, which is magnificent and anything, but I haven't
Speaker 1: tried any realize how many does it hold? Oh that theater?
Speaker 1: Like then I get nervous about that makes me will
Speaker 1: be fine? I don't know. I don't know. Although Culture
Speaker 1: was fun because it was a fucking warehouse villain. It
Speaker 1: was crazy. Bone and I walked in and we were like, no,
Speaker 1: this is insane. It looks like it looks like the
Speaker 1: kind of place where they go and sv you and
Speaker 1: they're like, well, we found some part of her over here,
Speaker 1: and some pot are over over here. It's like a
Speaker 1: warehouse and a heist movie that are always the most fun.
Speaker 1: The thing I love most of it. Were you there? Well?
Speaker 1: Fucking sorry, Why weren't you there? What else did you
Speaker 1: have going on? God? What was I doing? Okay? Well,
Speaker 1: then obviously it wasn't very good. Okay were you doing traps?
Speaker 1: Were you doing traps? No? No, I wasn't doing any traps.
Speaker 1: What do you do instead of traps? What kind of
Speaker 1: things are you into? What? What kind of music making
Speaker 1: am I into? Or what I thought you said? I
Speaker 1: thought you were saying traps. And in the physical exercise
Speaker 1: I was was oh, no, no, no. As far as
Speaker 1: the physical exercise, but it's mostly stage handing and downhill skateboarding.
Speaker 1: Or this. Okay, okay, look it's and it's doing it's
Speaker 1: it's doing you plenty of favor. Can I can I
Speaker 1: tell you my opinion on skateboarders. Let the straight girls
Speaker 1: have them guys for whom that is true. Oh it's
Speaker 1: so real and masculine and all of that. Let let
Speaker 1: the straight girls. How don't speak for himself, let him speak.
Speaker 1: I'll just say that there is one gay downhill skateboarder
Speaker 1: out there who was a fantastic photographer and an amazing
Speaker 1: dude named Matthew Doubler, and you should check him out.
Speaker 1: He's all over Instagram, all over the place. The guy
Speaker 1: is a fucking shredder. You should check him out, honestly,
Speaker 1: for I do you think the gays will look up
Speaker 1: Matthew something Dublin, Matthew Maxwell Doubler, Maxwell Story Doubling. Can
Speaker 1: I say something truly horrible when Tim Murray did his
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, about his bully from Ohio
Speaker 1: which you couldn't see this, but he was doing Costom
Speaker 1: Reveal on Costom Revealstom. Yeah, you couldn't see it, but
Speaker 1: I did go on Facebook and find his bully to
Speaker 1: figure out whether he was actually bald hot or not?
Speaker 1: And what's the verdict? Not really, I did that. I
Speaker 1: don't think I will look at this skateboarder. Look. I
Speaker 1: think there's a sensitivity to them, really, but that's to
Speaker 1: the skateboarders. The skateboarder. Do you think skateboarding is an
Speaker 1: art or something? I don't. I don't have any opinion
Speaker 1: either way. I just I remember many days, how's the
Speaker 1: days of watching these boys play Tony Hawk and just
Speaker 1: secretly pining for them? So you know that's that's my thing,
Speaker 1: all right? Well, with that information, I think that it
Speaker 1: actually is time to move on to I don't think so. Honey,
Speaker 1: Now are you ready? Do you do you have one
Speaker 1: composed three options? Would like the two of you to
Speaker 1: look at them now and determine which one you would. Oh,
Speaker 1: you want us to look at the topics themselves? You
Speaker 1: know what? I don't want to. I think look at
Speaker 1: the topics these allow er. No, Well, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Sorry,
Speaker 1: we're just I think I would be most interested to
Speaker 1: hear this. Yeah, I love that. I think that's too.
Speaker 1: Think this will change minds. But first people what they are?
Speaker 1: All right? No? Okay, So the first one that we
Speaker 1: did not choose is the children have forgotten. See if
Speaker 1: this where the children have forgotten that sent we could
Speaker 1: do this. The children have forgotten the gun and Betty
Speaker 1: loose handbag. You have no idea what that is now?
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. I mean, it's the
Speaker 1: greatest Alfree Wodd vehicle. I love Alfre word, but I
Speaker 1: don't know that. Yeah, no you don't because it's not
Speaker 1: available on streaming, it's out of print on DVD. It
Speaker 1: is gentle early nineties comedy where we said Penelope and
Speaker 1: Miller can totally be the front person for a movie
Speaker 1: and we were wrong. But it is the most watchable
Speaker 1: film you will ever see. And part of me is like,
Speaker 1: somebody needs to get the I P to this and
Speaker 1: turn it into a musical because it would be so
Speaker 1: into This one is people who watch Will and Grace
Speaker 1: but not Great News? Are you into great news? I'm
Speaker 1: a deep supporter of great news. Great news is very,
Speaker 1: very funny. We're losing our Andrea Martin on difficult people.
Speaker 1: We need to conserve our Andrea Martin. It's super super
Speaker 1: funny like it is goofy, and I like, I deeply
Speaker 1: believe in funny sitcoms, and I think it's like that
Speaker 1: we have raised this zombie, this Revenant of willing Grace,
Speaker 1: and it is good and people are watching it and
Speaker 1: they're not investing in the funny comedies of today. Sure
Speaker 1: like we're just gonna end up in a world who
Speaker 1: lose casual in Netflix's love and we will get what
Speaker 1: we deserve. Okay, yes that's fair. And you know what?
Speaker 1: It has a friend of the pod, Naomi Paragan rites
Speaker 1: for it, and then Tina fe plays the female Jack
Speaker 1: Donnegie of we mean, what else do you need? And
Speaker 1: Andrew Martin let's watch it. I didn't know that Naomi
Speaker 1: Real's doing there. Um, so then he's done two voices
Speaker 1: for it thus far, really exciting little vo You take
Speaker 1: this and you're gonna go last okay, and the reveal
Speaker 1: will be in the actual I don't think somehow, Now
Speaker 1: are you gonna go? First time? Am I gonna go? For?
Speaker 1: You should go? Because I truly don't know. It's shocking
Speaker 1: that you never prepare. Okay, well, all right, well I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I don't think so, honey, Bowen that he
Speaker 1: never prepares this never once, and maybe no it's not.
Speaker 1: But I'm also saying maybe it's why he consistently loses tournaments.
Speaker 1: Al Right, okay, al right, it hurts me when you
Speaker 1: do that. Well, I don't care that it does. Come
Speaker 1: to play indignant. Okay, here we go. This is I
Speaker 1: have a vicious I don't think so, this says Matt Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Is I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. That Billy Eigner is too
Speaker 1: famous for us. Now, Bitch, I'm sorry, but I don't
Speaker 1: want to go to my Instagram and you're hanging out
Speaker 1: with Colton Haynes, who also was not for us, despite
Speaker 1: being one of us. Billy, I'm sorry, but it is
Speaker 1: difficult people being canceled because you were too famous for it.
Speaker 1: You all of a sudden, you're wearing really nice suits,
Speaker 1: being all sexy and handsome. It came out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: But I and you know I supported. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you are fucking Coulton hands on the American horror story. Bitch.
Speaker 1: That is a very famous, that is a very fancy
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Billy was one of the fancy boys.
Speaker 1: We used to say we should ask Billy to be on.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey alive. And then I recently
Speaker 1: had to tell Bowen, no, the bitches to fancy. He
Speaker 1: is too fancy. Hanks that with Golden Hayes. All of
Speaker 1: a sudden, he has his high hair. He's giving you
Speaker 1: this like hot, like nineteen fifties retro sort of thing,
Speaker 1: sleeves rolled up. Literally, Billy come back to us. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey till that one minute. You know what, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, I think he is untouchable. Now he's become
Speaker 1: the person that he's made fun of. He's the abyss
Speaker 1: is stared backs, you know. But we love him still.
Speaker 1: He's wonderful. Uh he did talk to the Game show
Speaker 1: and was super super sweet and super super great. But
Speaker 1: I just want to say, what a get Nowadays, I
Speaker 1: look forward to playing this to a truly insufferable thirty
Speaker 1: three year old that Roger. I look forward to, like
Speaker 1: again the arms that your personal trainer has gotten for you,
Speaker 1: and the like the tense condescension that he'll give me,
Speaker 1: understanding understanding that I'm I might go for the gut
Speaker 1: about I knew you when girl, and like he's praying
Speaker 1: and it doesn't happen, but he's still skating on top
Speaker 1: of condescension. He's gonna toss me right aside. There is
Speaker 1: no way, bitch, honestly. Also, no, this is not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why it's not gonna happen, because they're
Speaker 1: gonna go back to I don't think so, honey, And
Speaker 1: they're gonna find me talking about all these celebrities. They're
Speaker 1: gonna find that I talk shit about Ellen an episode
Speaker 1: three with Sudi and they're gonna, well, we can't book
Speaker 1: him on Ellen's And let me just re quote this again.
Speaker 1: Ellen has lost all her edge. She has lost her edge.
Speaker 1: I think, yes, it's pathetic. Who like, is she a
Speaker 1: comedian anymore? She's not a haircut she knows Ellen is,
Speaker 1: so she's an emojing. Al Right, here we go. I'm ready,
Speaker 1: you know what. I'm semi prepared for that. I'm happy
Speaker 1: to hear that this is Bowen yangs. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: And time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Turtlenecks.
Speaker 1: My neck is too short for you. And listen, I
Speaker 1: have friends who pulled them off so well. Dave Mazzoni,
Speaker 1: professional choreographer. Dave Mazzoni has the swan like neck for it.
Speaker 1: My friend Matt over here has the neck for it.
Speaker 1: I don't have the neck for it. And you want
Speaker 1: to know what you don't want to You want to
Speaker 1: know why I've proven this out today because I thought
Speaker 1: I was gonna be bold and we're a new unique
Speaker 1: clow turtleneck that I that I bought this weekend and
Speaker 1: I wore to work, and I can no matter how
Speaker 1: I cuffed, it looked terrible. I looked like a fucking
Speaker 1: I don't know what what even like like a little pokemon.
Speaker 1: I looked like a little digglet. I looked like a
Speaker 1: little digglet. And I can't pull off turtlenecks. And I
Speaker 1: if I can't have turtlenecks, then no one can. I
Speaker 1: don't think someone a turtlenecks. Why why should we cover
Speaker 1: up our necks? No one's giving nickis anymore. There's no
Speaker 1: practical utilitarian purpose for them anymore. And I don't think
Speaker 1: we should have them in fashion illegalized turtle necks, I say,
Speaker 1: I don't think so many fucking turtle Next you know what.
Speaker 1: Army Hammer wore one in the shoot and he looked
Speaker 1: crazy at it. I don't think I do. I feel
Speaker 1: like I can visually, really viscerally, see visually really visceral. No,
Speaker 1: see Army Hammer in one as of very recently, because yeah,
Speaker 1: he's doing all these interviews or call me by your name.
Speaker 1: It looks amazing and that is the style. Now these
Speaker 1: turned out to the leather jacket over it and pattern
Speaker 1: pants Liniko. He said he's coming to I don't think
Speaker 1: so any and he was concerned about being cold, and
Speaker 1: he said, but don't worry. I brought a bunch of turtlenecks.
Speaker 1: He'll settle down with some nice lawyer and you'll always
Speaker 1: know you can't have two lawyers. Is he's a lawyer
Speaker 1: like you, guys, the best, like the best people to
Speaker 1: be fans of your work are gay lawyers, because it's
Speaker 1: like they got the money to show up and like
Speaker 1: the education to get the jokes. And it is like, OK,
Speaker 1: so there's this guy who listens to proper Rocket whose
Speaker 1: name is Dmitri Portnoy, and he was like, well, if
Speaker 1: somebody else is going to post it, I guess it will.
Speaker 1: And he fucking wrote the brief that like all of
Speaker 1: the biggest First Amendment scholars in America like got him
Speaker 1: and some other lawyers to write a brief that was
Speaker 1: their opinion about the First Amendment for the Colorado Bakery case,
Speaker 1: and it was just like fuck you, Like like you're
Speaker 1: writing Kathleen Sullivan's brief, were like, you're a godgame superstar,
Speaker 1: why do you come to my show? Better that? Better
Speaker 1: that than the reverse. Just these like gays who are
Speaker 1: the smartest people in the world, who write for fucking
Speaker 1: Vulture and Slate and should be saving us from North Korea,
Speaker 1: but instead they're writing about how you know Mercedes were well,
Speaker 1: did she really deserve the oscar in ninety two? Guys,
Speaker 1: I saw torch Song showed you last night and it
Speaker 1: was so good, And I have to say, um, a
Speaker 1: not great facelift has never fit more perfectly on a character.
Speaker 1: That's the second rave we've had for show. It's on
Speaker 1: this program. I just couldn't adore Michael Jury more. And
Speaker 1: that's the second rape Drew d we had on last episode,
Speaker 1: and he raved up and down about about Michael Jury.
Speaker 1: I want to get Michael Lury on this show. That
Speaker 1: would be a great guy. I think Michael Urry. I
Speaker 1: want to ask him about Ugly Betty. I want to
Speaker 1: ask him about Becky Newton. I want to ask him
Speaker 1: about Cocktails and Classics, which which Drew was awesome on.
Speaker 1: I have to say I adore Becky Newton. I know
Speaker 1: that she's probably somewhere like on a procedural or something. Also,
Speaker 1: I need you guys not understand that I was recurring
Speaker 1: on a multiicam that Michael Ury was on that was
Speaker 1: essentially died the week that I shot my first episode
Speaker 1: that it was so you can't connect the dots that way.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you what? We just audition for Ballers
Speaker 1: on HBO? Can you fucking imagine into the same stuff
Speaker 1: this week? And it's Ballers and HBO. We're just for
Speaker 1: the well groomed assistant who has a twitch in his eye. Anyway,
Speaker 1: how did you do the twitch? Show me? No you
Speaker 1: do you go first? No? No, no, it wasn't even that,
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't even that bad. It was more
Speaker 1: it was more like it was like that, you guys,
Speaker 1: this is hard podcasts. They are and literally you have
Speaker 1: to give people something to wonder about. Okay, this is
Speaker 1: guy Brandham's I don't think one of this is the
Speaker 1: selected topic, and he has he's ready to go. This
Speaker 1: is legend. I first of all, we should just stop
Speaker 1: and just gave his own book to stank face. He
Speaker 1: was like already ago. Bit, let's just say this is
Speaker 1: a huge moment that a lot of the listeners will
Speaker 1: be gaged just that this episode is even existing. Literally honestly,
Speaker 1: this is well, we'll talk about it, okay. Addresses guy Brandams.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. People
Speaker 1: who don't respect I don't think so, honey. Oh you
Speaker 1: love your cute little jokes. Oh he dresses like a
Speaker 1: short grandpa. Oh yes, I like said. He is probably
Speaker 1: a Republican, but he is a pop machine. He makes chams.
Speaker 1: He has given us as much good as like he's
Speaker 1: worth five spice girls like timber fucking Fireball. If you
Speaker 1: cannot respect a song called Sexy Beaches Hotels, you deserve
Speaker 1: to lose the ability to orgasm because you shouldn't have
Speaker 1: the capacity to joy. Your hate is needed. It is
Speaker 1: failure to provide you with the symbols of culture that
Speaker 1: you understand. If he were giving you standard like black
Speaker 1: hip hop guy, you would have his face tattooed on
Speaker 1: your thigh. But because he dresses like a small business
Speaker 1: owner from Palm Beach, You're life. No, I cannot. I
Speaker 1: canna deal with it. When when U fucking cho was
Speaker 1: making her chump over to America, who took care of her?
Speaker 1: It was you? You are better than pimple. But I
Speaker 1: do not think so, Honey. That's one minute his life.
Speaker 1: You love. That one made my day. That's the best
Speaker 1: one I've heard yet. That's one for the back. Wow,
Speaker 1: that was great. You know what Tonight I'm gonna go home,
Speaker 1: and before I shut my eyes, I'm gonna say, and
Speaker 1: you know what time of my life? Yeah? I mean, look,
Speaker 1: can I just say those Choper songs are not good,
Speaker 1: but are wonderful talking. I'm talking about exotic, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about in my city? Are they about? Like they are
Speaker 1: all sort of like thematically like in my city. He's
Speaker 1: talking about Miami and she is talking about Mumbai. Um sing, yes,
Speaker 1: she doesn't sing in her own movies. Also, I just
Speaker 1: need to say this to you and to everyone listening. Culturally, Bollywood,
Speaker 1: I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry is possibly the
Speaker 1: best romantic comedy I have ever seen. I will buy
Speaker 1: it for both of you on iTunes. It is three
Speaker 1: hours long, five musical numbers. It's almost entirely in English.
Speaker 1: It is the most fun rom com, like gay rom
Speaker 1: com was like one Legit Hot Guy. It's literally just
Speaker 1: called I never pronounced to check. It's called dostana. It
Speaker 1: means friendship, but it's they have to pretend to be
Speaker 1: apartments and a very layered hair. Prianka Chopra is the
Speaker 1: girl who couldn't live with two straight guys. I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it, I love it, I love it. You
Speaker 1: know what, Bollywood has been a blind spot in culture
Speaker 1: for me, and I need to you know what. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I need to get into Bollywood, I think, and
Speaker 1: I think Matt is going to be my partner in
Speaker 1: this because I'm just now getting I'm such a late
Speaker 1: arrival on K pop. But I love I have Brandon.
Speaker 1: Scott Jones Um just did a movie with as you
Speaker 1: were in it as well, you were in a movie
Speaker 1: with well, I mean we didn't share some but I
Speaker 1: was at the tablor Rooter with her. She was gorgeous,
Speaker 1: he said, prettier in person. Yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Scott Jen said that he did have some scenes to yes,
Speaker 1: and like she was pulling up a video of like
Speaker 1: her dancing or something, and he was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: didn't know you could dance. She was like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: a huge fucking bolly. That. The fact that they demand,
Speaker 1: they demand choreography out of all their fucking stars is
Speaker 1: the best professional. Okay, guy speaking, because I love when
Speaker 1: Because okay, we haven't we haven't listened to you on
Speaker 1: Pop Rocket for a while. What are your jams? Tell
Speaker 1: us jams? What are you what are you hitting the
Speaker 1: streets hard for? I mean, like these days, I'm very
Speaker 1: much all about Ladybird. It gave me life and jams, pies.
Speaker 1: It's just a lot of piple you guys like it
Speaker 1: really is. It's celebrate, it's sexy beaches, hotels, it is fireball.
Speaker 1: How about this. We're going to name some things and
Speaker 1: you tell us if they're your jam. Okay, you go
Speaker 1: as an example, Um pink Oh, it is my jam
Speaker 1: in all of its form, both as color and human being. Okay.
Speaker 1: Um Demi Levado new Demi Vado, Yes, definitely my jam.
Speaker 1: Um louis for tell a new host of Pop Rocket.
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate that It's like every time I
Speaker 1: like see you on Twitter that people are like quoting
Speaker 1: something glorious that he put together, I'm like, God, are
Speaker 1: they even gonna let me back? So, yes, it is
Speaker 1: my jam okay um, And I'll ask this because I'm
Speaker 1: surprised Matt hasn't Kelly new Kelly, I haven't listened. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's all we had time today for guy. Oh No.
Speaker 1: When I associated with Kelly Clarkson before, like one time,
Speaker 1: insidentially in conversation, I implied you might like her, and
Speaker 1: you prickled so hard. Yes you did that. You were
Speaker 1: very That's not the entirety of my identity. Well it's not,
Speaker 1: but I do love. And also I feel literally the
Speaker 1: entire episode of wrap Up Show that I was on
Speaker 1: over at Stern was because Kelly Clarkson was on that
Speaker 1: day and I did that. I was the Kelly Clarkson expert. Yes,
Speaker 1: that was why I was booked. Like, but I also
Speaker 1: will say I'm almost a little upset that we did
Speaker 1: all that ship. We talked about Taylor so much, and
Speaker 1: I have not had a chance to sit here and
Speaker 1: tell the listeners of Lost Cultures that I am personally
Speaker 1: offended and disappointed if you all haven't streamed Meaning of
Speaker 1: Life or bought Kelly Coxton's album Meaning of Life on
Speaker 1: iTunes or streamed it on Spotify, because it is so
Speaker 1: fucking good. There are some tracks on it which are
Speaker 1: so amazing. She sounds so much better than she ever has,
Speaker 1: which is crazy to even say, but it's the first
Speaker 1: time she sounds it alive in a week in her
Speaker 1: music and not bored. And I'm so happy. The new
Speaker 1: album is so good. And also it's been such a
Speaker 1: good time, good season for female pop releases because Taylor
Speaker 1: is very good. The Demi Lovito album is really good.
Speaker 1: I haven't really gotten through the Pink album, but I
Speaker 1: know that what I've heard is good, and the Kelly
Speaker 1: album is oh my god, it's so amazing, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: The only one that I can't really get into is
Speaker 1: Miley Young now to a couple of tracks. Um but yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's a good time for the ladies. Sure there
Speaker 1: you go. Um well anyway, but this is what I
Speaker 1: what I was getting out earlier before Guy started as
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, this, um, this is a huge.
Speaker 1: This is such a pleasure. We love you so much,
Speaker 1: Thank you. For doing the true. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for making the show. Thank you for making me aware
Speaker 1: of so many delightful people who I would have not
Speaker 1: known before. Honestly, it's a love fest here at last,
Speaker 1: culture ASTs, and that feels really good after all the
Speaker 1: blood letting that we've had. Um, we love Guy Brandam,
Speaker 1: we love you listening, We love you know hot engineer
Speaker 1: Will and we're so happy as his own Mike say goodbye,
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Goodbye everyone, well, goodbye bowen, um, goodbye, goodbye.
Speaker 1: We must close off. I guess we should. We should
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