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Speaker 1: Thank you all. Ding Dong Lost Culture and guests who

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Speaker 1: has his own mic. Now, Hi, Wow, it's I said,

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Speaker 1: this show is becoming a full experience. You're gonna I

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Speaker 1: know what you're gonna say. You're gonna say this show

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Speaker 1: becomes more and more Howard Stern by the episode and

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Speaker 1: shout out to Howard Love I mean, but I will

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Speaker 1: say shout out to Nick. To Nick. I was just

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Speaker 1: on Howard certain wrap up show, and I want to say,

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Speaker 1: what's up to those folks? I had so much fun.

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Speaker 1: Oh and I just got to know with Mtayline, previous

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Speaker 1: guest of the wrap up show. Yes, his episodes are

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Speaker 1: fabulous and he was singing everybody's praises over there at

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Speaker 1: Stern there loves you guys over there, we love you.

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Speaker 1: They're an army of great folks. And I will say, um,

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Speaker 1: I'm happy that We talked about that because it put

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Speaker 1: me in a good place for a second. What do

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Speaker 1: you mean, what do you do you know about? And

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Speaker 1: I should be flying high? You should be flying I

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Speaker 1: should be flying high. Is the winner of culture. But

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Speaker 1: flying high. I'm feeling really um, what's going on. I

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Speaker 1: can't believe we lost the real war, which is Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 1: She she beat us, put out an album that is

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Speaker 1: this album is a full It's not her, it's not

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Speaker 1: her best. It doesn't matter if it's her. If it's

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Speaker 1: an interview. I read an interview interview today with because

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Speaker 1: basically she's she's pulling a Beyonce. She's not doing any

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Speaker 1: this crazy looking Korea man who is a visionary whatever.

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Speaker 1: But he was sort of he's sort of been her

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Speaker 1: not the enemy. She's an enemy. I am bopping and

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Speaker 1: what go? Okay? You guys were at the SNL after party,

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Speaker 1: but somehow only Dave Mazzoni got all up in that.

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Speaker 1: I thought, I trained you better than this fucking choreographers

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Speaker 1: here's what happened. There's some speckstory to it, though, so

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Speaker 1: you can feel here and everything she does, like she

426
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Speaker 1: seems like she's the kind of actress who never plays

427
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Speaker 1: far from herself because she probably can't. But also like

428
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Speaker 1: that's fine because we love we got Jupiter ascending queens here?

429
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Speaker 1: Are there any Jupiter ascending queens here? Jupiter sending is

430
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Speaker 1: so good? Is good? No? Like it is? We gotta

431
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 1: smoke and watch that. It is profoundly about Transnis, Like

432
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Speaker 1: if I had watched it when I was like eleven

433
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Speaker 1: or twelve years old, I would have fucking plots and

434
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Speaker 1: given my life to it. It's not good, but I mean,

435
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: Eddie Redmaid looks like the most beautiful woman in the world,

436
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: a fucking, a fucking original ip like I give my

437
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Speaker 1: life for same. Same these days still gets for like

438
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: when Star Wars comes out and everything. But but here's

439
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Speaker 1: what I was saying about Mila in the end credits

440
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: of Bad Moms, which I just watched again the other day,

441
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 1: which we saw and we were a study, and we

442
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 1: were gagged for bad moms. We love bad moms, And

443
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: at the end when they're all talking with their moms,

444
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: that made me really feel very close to all of them.

445
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Speaker 1: And I already have been a Christina Applegate stand since

446
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Speaker 1: seven years old. I deeply, I have long maintained that

447
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: brunette Christina Applegate provides you with all of you. Jennifer

448
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: Aniston needs at half the cost. My god, that's rule

449
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Speaker 1: of culture number three. A brunette Christina Applegate provides you

450
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: with a the Jennifer Aston needs at half the cost.

451
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Speaker 1: Guy I saw I saw Bad Moms like across the

452
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Speaker 1: way on an airplane. I was like, what is that?

453
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Speaker 1: And I have not let myself watch it because I

454
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: love a mass market comedy so much, but I was

455
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: not aware of it when it came out, and it

456
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 1: makes me fear that it is going to be like

457
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Speaker 1: not good a simulation of a good broadcast. I will

458
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Speaker 1: tell you this, It's not as funny as Bridesmaids, but

459
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: literally nothing is. And it's actually it's actually funny. It's

460
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Speaker 1: funny and um or did you not like it? I

461
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: liked it? No, we all liked we all liked it.

462
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Speaker 1: I am I have to. I have to point out

463
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Speaker 1: this weird thing I have with Bad Moms. It's not

464
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Speaker 1: a thing at all, but it was just something that

465
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Speaker 1: like was a blip on my radar. I haven't heard

466
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Speaker 1: this like all like you. You watch the credits, the

467
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Speaker 1: opening sort of packages like three different Chinese production companies,

468
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: and like I'm like, oh, is this what Hollywood might

469
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Speaker 1: be in like a decade or so is like a

470
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: bunch of like Chinese, specifically Chinese production companies bank rolling

471
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Speaker 1: all these alright, but also, let me tell you not

472
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Speaker 1: a bad thing. Look having one's ear to the ground

473
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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. There once was a time when I

474
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Speaker 1: would say, like and having this being marketable in China

475
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Speaker 1: or India, like you would say that, they would be like, no, no,

476
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Speaker 1: that doesn't matter, that doesn't matter. A challenge, um, and

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Speaker 1: it is kind of interesting and exciting. Yeah, pretty great

478
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: that I didn't realize that that it was like Chinese

479
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Speaker 1: production companies that made that movie. And yeah, and I

480
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Speaker 1: sort of framed that as like a hang up. It's

481
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: not a hang up at all. I'm just saying, like,

482
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Speaker 1: this is a thing I'm noticing, and it starts. I

483
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: did notice that I didn't recognize the production company. There

484
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: was another there's another movie that I saw. I think

485
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Speaker 1: it might have been A Baby Driver that also had

486
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Speaker 1: all these these these Chinese credits. No, no, it was

487
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: Edge of seventeen. We have to talk about Hayley Steinfeld. No, no, no, no, no, no,

488
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Speaker 1: we're saving that for the show. No, but we're gonna

489
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Speaker 1: talk about it right now. Do you read Chinese? And

490
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Speaker 1: I can't read to the characters. I can read like

491
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: maybe five percent of the characters, and they're all the sudden.

492
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: Because that's the thing where like there's no acquiring skills.

493
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Speaker 1: You just have to learn the characters individually and then

494
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Speaker 1: and just know their meanings paired with other characters. It's

495
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 1: truly an insane language. Like I started to pick up

496
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Speaker 1: Korean recently and I was literally doing and I got angry.

497
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: I started I just started to like learn like the alphabet,

498
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Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, the fact that there's a

499
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Speaker 1: phonetic alphabet is so unfair. I'm like, I was, I

500
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: was mad. I was like, oh, like my upbringing learning

501
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: this other language, like my quote unquote mother tongue or whatever,

502
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: is like so much harder than the Korean kids in Denver,

503
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: and they're and they're everywhere in Denver, um who just

504
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 1: grew up speaking Korean and just like being able to

505
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: read it so easily. And I was like why, like

506
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: why is that anyway? The factors they have an alphabet

507
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: but Um of seventeen all the huge Chinese. Yeah. So

508
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 1: Bowen referenced Edge of seventeen recently as like one of

509
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: those new coming age movies that's like actually good that

510
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: even the critics pointed to him, they said, hey, this

511
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: want to see. And I was interested because Hailey Stein

512
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: felt to someone I've always been like mildly interested in.

513
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: After she got was it MASCAR nomination for she? Ascar

514
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: nomination for that? And you know, in Pitch Perfect, and

515
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: then she released interesting that master very much about masturbation song,

516
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Speaker 1: um gotta lovest else. Hey, we recently learned she's a Republican. Right,

517
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: Oh that's what. How did you know? Did you tell

518
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Speaker 1: you I forget Lewis Vertell or one of you on

519
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Speaker 1: I am it must have been Lewis. Then Joe told

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00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: us that he we won't say how he knows, but

521
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: confirmed that she voted for Trump Calabasas like answer is

522
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: just the West Valley. It is a different and magical place,

523
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: and apply she talked openly about it on the set

524
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: of Pitch Perfect, thing about how she was voting for

525
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: Trump and she's like barely Filipino, also fucking Jewish, right,

526
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: like she's a jew of color technically Filipino Jewish. And

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00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: you know what, guy, it was me. It was, oh

528
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: my god, that's how wasted I am of like up

529
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: here at all times, I was the one that said,

530
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: as you. I was like, gud, we have horrible news.

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00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: Thank you for apprising me of that. Matt. I still

532
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: have not seen Edge of seventeen because there is a

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00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: way that I will get like frightened of these things

534
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: that could be something I enjoyed greatly, or just like pointing.

535
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: I'm the same way. Whenever there's like a big I'm

536
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: like that would get out. I'm like that with Ladybird

537
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: right now. Whenever there's like a big thing everyone's talking about,

538
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, let me take a second and I will

539
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: see it. I still haven't. No, I won't even say that.

540
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: What come on, come on, I still haven't seen other

541
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: people because I know I'm going to enjoy it so

542
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: much and I know it's going to affect me so

543
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: deeply that I'll be out for in a weekend. It's

544
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: also one of the other fascinating things about it, my friends,

545
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: is just realizing how like the telling game mail stories

546
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: is about silence in such significant ways that figuring out

547
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: how to tell them is interesting. Brian Louder and Slight

548
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: Magazine are Slate once said that he questioned whether it

549
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: was possible to tell like emotionally relevant gay mail stories

550
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: without some elements of fantasy to them. And I love

551
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: that a great deal, um, because like other people is

552
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: so good. Okay, I have to tell you. In Other People,

553
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: there is a moment where Jesse what's his name sits

554
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: behind um Molly Shannon while she puts on makeup and

555
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: he talks to her while she is getting ready to

556
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: go to this party that they're having at their house.

557
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: And it was like a thing from my life that

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00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: I had never seen represented me. That was like the

559
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: like I hate I have a passionate hatred of fucking

560
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: representations of boys and their dogs or dad's throwing footballs

561
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: with their son, fuck you and your head normative like

562
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: like normality. But seeing this equivalent of that from my life,

563
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: I was just like wrecked. I think you're saying that

564
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: I can smell the hair spraying. Yes, yes, the most

565
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: glamorous woman in the world is Katrina Clara. She is

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Speaker 1: she is and you and yeah, and specifically hairsprayed for

567
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: you just because of what your mom did does. Yeah,

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00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: I mean we literally had a salon, a little salon

569
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: hair yeah, she's we had. It was like a gay

570
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: boys dream. We had like a little salon in her

571
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: house where she would have clients and she'd work out

572
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: of the house a couple of days a week, and

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00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,959
Speaker 1: then she works in the shop as well, like one

574
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: of two days a week, and uh, I would just

575
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: have that room to do my hair in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen called me by your name yet? Or

577
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: if you like not, have you read it. I'm reading

578
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: it now, and I'm i gotta say, I'm not fully

579
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: on board yet with just the pacing of it, because

580
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm just like, there, it's just tense staring there there.

581
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: Nothing has happened yet. Apparently there's a peach scene that

582
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be waiting for you. No, but I mean,

583
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: that's the horrible thing about our stories is that there

584
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: is so much fear involved because there's so much like

585
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: like pausing and everything. Um, it's it's all of it

586
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: is just waiting. That's yeah, that's that's part of like

587
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: the gay narrative is just like some repression of a moment. Sorry,

588
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm like I was trying to remember the thing that

589
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: that I when I'm saying it was this that like

590
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: when they made a movie version of The Handman's Tail,

591
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: it was terrible and when they made the TV version,

592
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: it's great. The difference is v O. The difference is

593
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: being inside of her head and realizing she's still a

594
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: person like you. And I feel like with a with

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00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: a novel, when you're dealing with law intense looks, you're

596
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: able to sort of like fill it up Henry Jane

597
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: style with like what people, what's going on inside? But

598
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: like when it's a fucking movie like so frequently look.

599
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: My opinions on looking are very well recorded, but I like,

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00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't want this boring gay story where nothing happens

601
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: and people are scared all the time. I don't need realism.

602
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: We live in every fucking day. We're tired of it.

603
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: So that's what it is. It's just every gay narrative

604
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: needs some element of fantasy. People give us some bomb best,

605
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, come on, it's rule number sixteen

606
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: of culture. Give us some bomb best. Come on, guy,

607
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: let's finally get to the question. No, I feel like

608
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: it's too late for that. I feel like we need

609
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: to take a break because we literally at the moment

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Speaker 1: where we get back. When we get back, bitch, that

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00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: is when we have to ask Guy Brandon the the

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00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: you know, pinnacle question of this podcast, and because we've

613
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: been having too much goddamn fun, we're not going to

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00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: get there. And then he says he has a question

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Speaker 1: for us. Oh, I can't wait for something. But before

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Speaker 1: we get to our break, let's read a five star review.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do this, um, you know, we're gonna try

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Speaker 1: something out I think a little bit new. These are

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Speaker 1: some five star reviews from our Apple podcast page. Guys,

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Speaker 1: please leave us a fin I hope that you will

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Speaker 1: leave us a five star review, because you, guys, we want,

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Speaker 1: we wanted to be seen out there in the world,

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Speaker 1: you know, get us out there, help us get visible. Honey.

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Speaker 1: This is um a review submitted by Ka with many

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Speaker 1: exclamation points. The title of this review is barbar. It's

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Speaker 1: a reference to our Christian Bartlett episode five stars. This

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Speaker 1: podcast regularly makes me laugh out loud. For a dead inside,

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Speaker 1: black souled monster like me, that's saying quite a bit. Ca. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you, car and thank you for submitting your review

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Speaker 1: like a true barbar bitch. Now we we love you

631
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Speaker 1: so much. Let's cut to our break. We'll be right

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Speaker 1: back with Guy Brandow Yes, and we're back with Guy

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Speaker 1: sure Are and before we took the break, we we

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Speaker 1: did tease that we would ask this question. Let's ask

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Speaker 1: the question you ask so, um, guy brand Um, this

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Speaker 1: is the question that we ask every guest that appears

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Speaker 1: upon lost cultures. Thus, I'm entirely unfamiliar with that happens

638
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: upon ared for it in any way. Well, um, we'd

639
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: like to ask you, what is the culture that you know?

640
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: It's the culture that when you when you opened the

641
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: door one day, there it was, you know, it was

642
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: it was a little package of culture and it said

643
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: you picked it up and shook it from ear to

644
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: ear and you said, whatever is inside here, this is

645
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: going to be what sets me on a journey, and

646
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: that that journey is culture. That journey is your individual culture.

647
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: This is not your standard phrasing, your standard phrasing. Is

648
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: what made you realize cultures for you? And after having

649
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: like parsed this question significantly to myself and trying to

650
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: figure out what, like where is the starting point when

651
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: do we say, like I jumped off the rails of

652
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: conventional humanity. Uh, The answer that I had very much

653
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: prepped that like what made me realize culture was for

654
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: me was Deborah gene Brandim the City, California. Um. But

655
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: since you have said what culture, I suppose I have

656
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 1: to give you another answer. No, no, no, whatever answer

657
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: you want, honey, I will not be responsible for you

658
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: listening about to this and saying, wow, I didn't represent

659
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: myself culturally in the way that I would like, because that,

660
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: like so many people do, come here with like a

661
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: concrete text. And when I was thinking about it, I

662
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: thought a lot about um like uh like Greek mythology,

663
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,479
Speaker 1: I thought about a lot. I thought about the Lord

664
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: of the Rings. But I also very significantly thought about

665
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: like it used to be before cable that old movies

666
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: were shown on UHF stations in the summertime. Do you

667
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: know anything about that? None of those words mean anything

668
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: to you. Don't know, I don't know. Okay, So there

669
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: were there were stations that were your networks, your NBC,

670
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: your ABC, your CBS. This is before Fox, and then

671
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: you would have like three other channels that were just

672
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: like whatever the funk they could put together, like it

673
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: was where you watched your cartoons after school. Um. And

674
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: then during the summertime when there was not like network

675
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 1: stuff being shown, the ones in Sacramento which show old movies.

676
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: But because it was Sacramento. They could not they couldn't

677
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: afford all about Eve, like they couldn't afford the Philadelphia story.

678
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: And so the two I will particularly say are arsenic

679
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: and old Lacey and bell Book and Candle. I will

680
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: say Arsenic and old Lace does not hold up. No,

681
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't. It doesn't carry Grant movie The Woman You're

682
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: Going to Love The premise nobody. This guy lives in

683
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: Brooklyn and he goes to take his new bride to

684
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: meet his two aunts. And his two aunts are serial murders.

685
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: They're putting, they're putting poison. They get they get older

686
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: bachelors and who they think are sad, and then they

687
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: like believe that they are humanly euthanizing them. And then

688
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: they have his brother, who believes he is Teddy Roosevelt

689
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: bury them in the basements. It's kind of like get Out,

690
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 1: Yes it is. Wow, it's all that's sort of connecting

691
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: back to get Out. That's fun. No. I was actually

692
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: thinking about it today because, like the original play was

693
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: read as sort of like a commentary on the tension

694
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: between America wanting to be so libertine and like our

695
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: dark history, and I was sort of like interesting what

696
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: is a racialized, arsenic and old lace. Let's step forward.

697
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about bell book and candle. Okay, I'm

698
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: not familiar. What is bell book and candle? Okay. So

699
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: it's in the mid nineteen fifties. Kim Novak is a

700
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: sassy witch who lives in the West Village. Jimmy Jimmy

701
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: Stewart lives in her building, and she finds out that

702
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: he is engaged to the girl who was her bully

703
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: at Vassar or Radcliffe. Like it's we're talking about college

704
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: bully from a seven sister school because let us remember

705
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: most Ivy League schools do not let women in until

706
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: the eighties. Um, So she has a spell making him

707
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: fall in love with her. It's a nine teen fifties movie.

708
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: So in the end she does realize that being in

709
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: love is more important than being a witch, and it

710
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: all falls apart and is terrible. But guys, the like

711
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: which culture is all sort of like like beat nick

712
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: West Village underground bar, like it's the coolest fucking thing

713
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: you've ever seen, and Kim Novak is just like never

714
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: not being glorious and wearing capri pants like it's just

715
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: she saunters like a cat. Every fucking moment elsa Lanchester

716
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: and her minemy Gangold, who are like, yes, like it

717
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: is just classic biddies and like as a child on

718
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: like a sweaty sweaty like Sacramento Valley, like evening in

719
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: the summertime was just like this is like raw glamour

720
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: like to me. To me like witchcraft and French breeding

721
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: felt like things that were just out of reach that

722
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: all women understood. So how do you fall load the

723
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: like pop culture which is ever since you Stevie Nicks fan? Yes,

724
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: I love pop culture, which is I hate when whiches

725
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: go away from us. I love when which is returned

726
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: to us, which is are returning? I like we had

727
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: long vampire period that I had no taste for. No,

728
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: but also even true blood they had witches, which is no.

729
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: I think witches have been a perennial sort of have

730
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: had this perennial appeal for just since time and memorial. Um,

731
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: I feel like witches have always been with us, wouldn't

732
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: you say? I would bowen gang like they eben flow

733
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: along with everything else. Female agency. Female agency has its

734
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: moments in pop culture and then they go away. Practical

735
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: magic was a beautiful moment, but you point me to

736
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: good witches of the early two thousands, Sabrina, Sabrina, I

737
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: don't know if that counts. It was from the nineties,

738
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: wasn't it. I guess you can tell you guys. Can

739
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: I sell you guys? A spoiler from um from Talk

740
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: Show The Game Show season one point five it's not

741
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: technically a second season. Uh, Melissa john Hart and Caroline

742
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: Rain did the show together? No, it was just twin

743
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: things of In the middle of my interview completely on prepped,

744
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: I brought up an interview she did one time where

745
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: she talked shit at ABC for overpromoting Clueless the TV

746
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: show and not Sabrina the Teenage which and it was

747
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: one of the most baller moments I've ever seen from her,

748
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: and she like clearly loosened up when that happened. But

749
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: then watching her compete against Caroline right was one of

750
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: the most satisfying things to talk about that. Okay, so

751
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: what happened show that we can temn about it. That's

752
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,959
Speaker 1: all I want to know is how Melissa john Hart

753
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: and Caroline Race shows off show down? What about Ann Zelta? Oh,

754
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: Beth Beth Roderick was not pressed. She wasn't available. Wait

755
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: they were on the same episode. Passed for a moment

756
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: because I need to we need to properly discuss the

757
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: piece of culture that you guys have brought to me

758
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: meant the most to name, right, This is the question

759
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: you don't want to ask. He's come with a demand

760
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: to the studio. Yes, can we can? We guess? First?

761
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: Is I don't? I don't know? Guess guess I like

762
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: I like gamifying anything. What piece of culture have we

763
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: brought That's one of the rules of culture. Isn't it

764
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: that culture? UM? That experience, that experience. What piece of

765
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: culture have we introduced to God that he has loved?

766
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: Trying to think he's reached out about any particular thing, anatomy,

767
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: I have reached out, not to you guys. What Oh

768
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: my god, you know what? I give up? Okay, well,

769
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: what if I want to know? I want to know um.

770
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: On an earlier episode of this podcast, you referred to

771
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: two people as being I believe you personally met. Matt

772
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: Rodgers referred to two people as being the finest sketch

773
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: performers in New York. Do you remember at all? Oh

774
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: my god, Gosh, Warms in New York? Was it Darcy

775
00:41:52,520 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: and Michael. No, it's uh Brita and Maven. My god, yes, okay,

776
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: so yep, Brin and Maven McNerney. The parents are Beth

777
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: Newell and Peter McNerney. You can follow them on Instagram,

778
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: and they have glorious performer children. I look, I do

779
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: not give a shit about your dog. I don't care

780
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: if you're captain something in doorable, I don't care at all.

781
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: I like myself a nice three year old. Makes me

782
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: feel very very creepy to be looking at the children

783
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: of somebody I didn't know. So I like said to Beth, Hello,

784
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know your children are the greatest

785
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: sketch performers in New York. And like they aren't so

786
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: funny funny, they are so great. And like Brin like

787
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure it out today and like

788
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: he thinks that are so in age. He's like and

789
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: he's just he's just such a character. He's just like

790
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: a suave three year old, just suavely letting you know

791
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: how it's going. And then like and then you go

792
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: to Maven, who is that agent of chaos and you

793
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: never know what's going to happen, and I have to

794
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: tell you the most exciting moment in my pop culture

795
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: life was an incident at the party where he was

796
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: he was doing a little bit like, uh, Maven needs

797
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: a time out, and he's like very much like telling

798
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: his little powder to his parents, trying to manipulate things,

799
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: and then Maven, who I did not know could speak,

800
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: screams know at him, and it was just like ship

801
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: I went there to be like a reunion episode where

802
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: An interviews everyone about that moment. Honestly, he also had

803
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: a really sassy moment recently where he said, um, I'm

804
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: not going He was just like he kept repeating, I'm

805
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: not going to be nice to my friend or or

806
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm we have to find miss Emily says that hitting

807
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: is okay, I'm going to hit my friend. Oh my god,

808
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: Bran is on record. They were like, really, if we

809
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: call your teacher, she's going to okay and she go

810
00:43:54,400 --> 00:44:00,280
Speaker 1: he goes yeah, like he's I'm trying to think about

811
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: what because it's like classic comedy duo and like he's

812
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: a little bit Jennifer Saunders like I'm trying to find it.

813
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: You keep talking, but just like he's like he's always

814
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: got powder going and I love like it's it's so

815
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,959
Speaker 1: vaudeville that there's one who talks and talks too much

816
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 1: and one who can't talk. Well, you have to follow

817
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: um Peter McNerney at mcnan at m I c N

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00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: E n and then Beth hers is. And the thing is,

819
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: you got to Beth for the short form content, you

820
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: got to Peter for the long term concept. Dethel b

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00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: E t h N E W l L. All right

822
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: now I have to find really quickly. I want to

823
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: say Brenn has been has has been documented as saying

824
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: the words I don't think so, honey, No he did,

825
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: he said it. He said, Wait, what are you looking for?

826
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the comedy sense of Bill. Cities of

827
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: Peter and Beth are are like their capabilities are so

828
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: evident from the way they just know how much of

829
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: them to capture and when to go to the other one.

830
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: We're both amazing. It's the edit and the content in

831
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: a perfect marriage. And oh god, yeah, you know what.

832
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: I never realized that it was the spot vilion thing

833
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: of like one doesn't speak and then one is always,

834
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: always always speaking, always talking. Then maybe pours a beer

835
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: on somebody. Oh my god, maybe maybe. I thought it's

836
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: interesting that you say maybe is sort of this agent

837
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: of chaos, because I feel like maybe is just the past.

838
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: You hate your friends? She said, you could hit your friends. Yes,

839
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: she said, just said your friends fast. I don't think

840
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: she said that. I think she said no hitting your friends.

841
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: She said, should we asked her on my day? Should

842
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: we asked her if she said that, yes, send me

843
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: your to talk to me and my friends and get

844
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: my friend. The conversation ends of the declarative sentence, not

845
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: a response to any of that's been said. It's just

846
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm done with this conversation, and just to refresh the

847
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: thesis of it was I'm going to continue hitting my friends.

848
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: But I was respond to your point because yes, for

849
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: such a long time, Maven was a pansy. But like

850
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: like her as a younger child, her growing rage, like,

851
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: I just look forward to the forms that it takes. Also,

852
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: she's her mouth is always somewhat wet. There's probably jelly

853
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: on her somewhere. They're two amazing kids, they really are.

854
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: I one time there was some early videos of brit

855
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: I was act at the comedic capability. I was like

856
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: this is how did you become aware of them? Because

857
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm good friends with the parents, so I mean through no, no, no.

858
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: We do UM Story Pirates, which is a company that

859
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: takes stories that kids right, and you know what, it's

860
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: rule number thirteen culture bitch. It's not just for the

861
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: viewers now, Peter McNerney, they turned them into pieces of theater.

862
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: We take kids, they write stories were trying to pieces

863
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: of theater. Peter McNerney is the associate artistic director of

864
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: this company. And my first contact with Brynn was when

865
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: he was like six months old. He's on his high

866
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: chair and this was the first comedic moment that I

867
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: think is on record is um Peter. Peter does like

868
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: a little thing with his mouth and then Bryn copies

869
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: him and does it like six months old, and then

870
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: Peter laughs and Bryn laughs, and just I mean, maybe

871
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: there's no meeting thing there, but the fact that he's

872
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: able to repeat something back to his father, Oh my god,

873
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: get out. It's amazing. It's like, it is wonderful. What

874
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: makes children like the things that hit them as laughter?

875
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: And I wonder how much of them are copied or

876
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: how much of them are just sort of like two

877
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: things that shouldn't go together are now happening. Yes, yes,

878
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: which is comedy. Yes, Yes, Okay, let's let's have this

879
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: conversation kids. Yes or no. I would say for me no,

880
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 1: because I feel like I would know now at twenty

881
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: seven that I would want them at some point, at

882
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: the height of your fertility exactly. I'm in my sexual prime.

883
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: By the way, the male sexual prime is so that

884
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: means we're all out of it. Dang. Yes, I was

885
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: implying you were a woman. I wasn't trying any way

886
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: to comment your male sexuality. No, I would be just

887
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: entering my sexual prime, which is of course from But

888
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: the thing is is like it is nice that as

889
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: a man you can have them whenever, but also you

890
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: shouldn't have them whenever. No. I well, I always kind

891
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: of come from myself. My dad had me when he

892
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: was thirty five, and so that's always like, well, I

893
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: have time. You know. My parents were eighteen and nineteen

894
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: when my sister was born, and there is that, like

895
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: there's such weirdness around the fact that like they were

896
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: never adults without children, like it is that's crazy those

897
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: people can have children. My grandmother was seventeen, Yeah, that's

898
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: that was just how things worked. It was like, that's

899
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: what women are for seventeen Yeah, I can't imagine. I

900
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: can't imagine either, he can. God, the lost culture rests

901
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: public need a sense of healing after trash talking that

902
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 1: came around Culture Wars, because God knows, I loved Culture

903
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: Wars and I loved playing the game of hostility. But

904
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: they were you were a team, and it was really hurtful. No.

905
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: I specifically took opposite sides on two different questions in

906
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,919
Speaker 1: ways that tore me up. Yes, yes, I took Race

907
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 1: Honey over Allison. Um there was Allison, right, she got

908
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: too sick to compete, and so Mitro Juhari sweet Mitra

909
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: took her place. Yes, but but probably because you said that. Yes, Um,

910
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: then you picked Sam over Dave. But then I took

911
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: Sam over Day. Why would you ever do that? Tore

912
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: me apart? Because Sam Tigger is just a well of chaos.

913
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: I like. I love it. I love that the Brooklyn

914
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: Faget comedy scene is rich enough that we can have

915
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: like absurdist of his skill level. But I love that

916
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: he's still a gay comic enough that he can I

917
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,439
Speaker 1: don't think so, Honey, with the best of them. There

918
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: you go, but not still not as well as Dave

919
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: Sam has his foot and a bunch of has many feet,

920
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: a bunch of legs and feet, and a bunch of

921
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: different little territories and sensibilities and what have you, and

922
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: t six seeds in all. All right, Well, I would

923
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: like to, I guess, come out and say that if

924
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: anything that I said really hurt you, if I ever

925
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 1: hurt you in the trash talking of culture two seventeen,

926
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: I apologize because now I know I didn't need to

927
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: say anything because I was going to win the whole time.

928
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: Can I just I just can I just say it

929
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: was lovely to watch the process, just to see like

930
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: you've got all of your Long Island rage from all

931
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: of those boys who were mean to you, that it

932
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: is just like dying to come out in any moment. Uh,

933
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: And I love that process oriented peacemaker bow and Yang

934
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: was always trying to explain why things like when you

935
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: went into well, the picks I made were me trying

936
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: to avoid conflict. I was like, bitch, believe in your

937
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: own post. I was offended. He started. He was like, oh,

938
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: you know, but why, it's why At the end of

939
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: the day. I was team Bowing because I was like

940
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: conflict avoid and rules. Yeah, because you know what, like,

941
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't like this whole culture,

942
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: which is we don't want to root for people that

943
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: want to win that I wanted to win and guess

944
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: what I won again. I want again. I want Battle

945
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: of the Davits. I want a culture. I am so

946
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 1: much better than you, and it is so amazing for me.

947
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: Matt could do a favor. Don't want me because now

948
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: I'm mad the worst part of all of this better,

949
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: it's yet another it's yet another competition with which Matt

950
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: will relitigate. Yes I do. I do very much appreciate now, mad.

951
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: I have been in this business long enough that I

952
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: fear for people I truly love and respect who do

953
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: not believe in themselves to want to win at any costs,

954
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: and so I do very much. I do want to

955
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: say one thing drop back dropping a lot of this. Yes, okay,

956
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: I want to say one thing. Literally, I had people

957
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: asking me like, I was like, who do you who

958
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: are you rooting for? Like as like a joke, and

959
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: they're like, well, I'm rooting for bod because I think

960
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: that you'll take the loss a little bit better than Bowen.

961
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: I was like, if you knew how little we actually cared,

962
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: like we don't care who wins, it would have a

963
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: good fucking show. Bitch, I don't care who wins. I

964
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: truly give no ship. But people were like, I guess

965
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: they were believing the ship talk enough when they were

966
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: and this is maybe we shouldn't be revealing this because

967
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: we will should talk again, want to believe it and

968
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: be in there with it. But girl, we were okay,

969
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: there was no her feelings. And then that's when I realized,

970
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: oh no, I can't say the same things for the competitors.

971
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: And I hope that none of the competitors feel bad

972
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: that they might have lost a k a lost around

973
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: because they all were amazing like that when you guys

974
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 1: were doing the breakdowns. I enjoyed that episode so much,

975
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: like the backstory was so rich and beautiful. Um, but

976
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: I was just like, really, were I have to say

977
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: one thing about part one of Cultural Works. It's like,

978
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: after you guys did the breakdowns of everyone, I went

979
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: back and I really listened to uh before the storm,

980
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: these young girls, the young girls, which is in my opinion,

981
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 1: possibly the greatest I don't think so, honey, that's ever

982
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: been produced, not by the two of you. Uh. And

983
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: then just seeing Pat go down so hard, so hard

984
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: in that first round was really rough. And then to

985
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: know what happened, which is that he hasn't listened to

986
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: the second You haven't. You haven't, you haven't, you haven't

987
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: posted it yet. How would I knowsteners at a time

988
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: of this release, it hasn't oposed it and it is

989
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: well known who wins culture right, well, we basically just

990
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: spoiled it. I don't know. I don't, I don't want to,

991
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: don't don't you want to allow me to be a fan? Also,

992
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: if you guys need to build a fantasy team website

993
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: so hard before you do Culture Wars again, because maybe

994
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: we'll go out to l A and do Culture Wars

995
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 1: where I don't give a funk if they get offended

996
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: or not, because I don't know them. Like Lewis, we

997
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 1: Tell and I were talking about how much we need

998
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: you guys to come and do Culture Wars. We want

999
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: to come out there and do it, we really do,

1000
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: but I think I think we need to. How do

1001
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: you what do you think about this? We need to

1002
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 1: start with the regular I don't think so, honey. Yes,

1003
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: I think we just need to go out there and

1004
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: do and I don't think that. And then can I

1005
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 1: say something like, from the bottom of my heart to

1006
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: both of you. When I go to the Virgil or

1007
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: CB Sunset or wherever this actually takes place, and I

1008
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: see just how packed the place is, and then every

1009
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: faggot of note who was not booked for the show

1010
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 1: is in the audience, I will be jealous. I will

1011
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: be actively like two young men pretty, Oh my god,

1012
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: don't you ever? Don't you ever? You have a fucking

1013
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: joy show. Know, we emitted packets and we're around packets

1014
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: and jealousy. You told us he gave us hope. That's

1015
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: because there was a packet that referenced Lost Cultures does

1016
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: and what I assumed it was one of the two

1017
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: of you, And I was like, oh, this great packet.

1018
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 1: It's wonderful someone someone wrote a packet to your show

1019
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: in reference. Yes, it was, because it was because fucking

1020
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: star Rashida Crockett, who did end up getting hired from

1021
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 1: my shows as a fucking research monster, who, like for

1022
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 1: every person, had done like deep, deep research. And I

1023
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: was and what did what was do you remember the reference? Oh,

1024
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: it was that Rachel Bloom had said on this show

1025
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: that she loved peanut butter on toast for breakfast. So

1026
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: it was a pitch for a game that was in

1027
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: some way about peanut bar on toast. The fact that

1028
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: we helped this person get a job and and and

1029
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: lay here pennelists. Um, I will say that your shout

1030
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: outs on Pop Rocket gave us like the lasting boost

1031
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: that we like have been No. I was totally at

1032
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: the gym and a guy came up to me and said,

1033
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: I know his name is Nico's friend. Yes, And he

1034
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: was like, are you guy? And I was like yes,

1035
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: and he's like I'm a huge fan of Lost Culture

1036
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 1: Ristas and I was like oh. And then he explained

1037
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: how he learned about it from my podcast, of which

1038
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: he did not miss. I guy were at He pursued

1039
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 1: He he his media diet is all podcasts. He listens

1040
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: to everyone. I'm sure he listens to Pop Rocket. Religious

1041
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: have to say something I like After the election, I

1042
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: had a hard not able to listen to podcasts in

1043
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: any way. And my recent like car trip to Sacramento

1044
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: and Lost Culture Restas was my return to being able

1045
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: to listen. To my god, we were. We were Christina

1046
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: Yank Sandra's character catching a big fish after not being

1047
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: able to operate. Oh my god, I I do remember

1048
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: when she had like postraumatic stress and couldn't operate. Yes,

1049
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: and then she caught a fish and all of a

1050
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: sudden was better. Right. Um No, I wanted to say, guy,

1051
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: your shout outs on Pop Rocket were. Um, I think

1052
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: they were. They were a moment for me because I

1053
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: had never heard someone so actually described me and Matt

1054
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: in such a simple way. You described me as well.

1055
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: You described Matt of course in his like you know,

1056
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: he's a product of Long Island masculinity, and here he

1057
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: is now and he's the biggest of all faggots now,

1058
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: which is glorious, Like what a great one eighty, what

1059
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: a great heel turn musical theater? Yes, yes, I believe.

1060
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: And then for me you described me as part someone

1061
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: but part Crystal Carrington. And I was like, oh my god,

1062
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: and I fucking died because you are You are a

1063
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: fucking Joan. You're the Joan Collins to Mike Crystal. You're

1064
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: the Alexis to Mike Crystal. Oh and guy, that was

1065
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: very nice of you to to mention us A big

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00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: fan of the show, glad to finally be here, piste Off,

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00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: I was not able to be here for either Culture

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Speaker 1: Wars or I don't think so, Honey Lives. It makes

1069
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: me angry, but also it will drive us to come

1070
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: out there. When will be a good time for us

1071
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: to come out there to Los Angeles? Tell us, um,

1072
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: I mean anytime if you showed up, I mean like

1073
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: the danger but also the magic of showing up splashly

1074
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: in February. Well everyone's there for Pilot's season. That would

1075
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: be a little fierce. It would be. But where should

1076
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: we do it though? Because I don't want I want to.

1077
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: I want to do it at a good place. I

1078
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: mean something is I do imagine this in my head

1079
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: where where Like it's always been at the Virgil in

1080
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: my head. But I don't think that's big enough. Well,

1081
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: l A Lost Cultures does fans? You let us know

1082
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: in your five star review on iTunes where you want

1083
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: us to come. I have never been able to get

1084
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: the l A Game Lesbian Center to uh to toss

1085
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: their theater, which is magnificent and anything, but I haven't

1086
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: tried any realize how many does it hold? Oh that theater?

1087
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: Like then I get nervous about that makes me will

1088
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: be fine? I don't know. I don't know. Although Culture

1089
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: was fun because it was a fucking warehouse villain. It

1090
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: was crazy. Bone and I walked in and we were like, no,

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00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: this is insane. It looks like it looks like the

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00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: kind of place where they go and sv you and

1093
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 1: they're like, well, we found some part of her over here,

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01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: and some pot are over over here. It's like a

1095
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,959
Speaker 1: warehouse and a heist movie that are always the most fun.

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01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: The thing I love most of it. Were you there? Well?

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01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: Fucking sorry, Why weren't you there? What else did you

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01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: have going on? God? What was I doing? Okay? Well,

1099
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: then obviously it wasn't very good. Okay were you doing traps?

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01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: Were you doing traps? No? No, I wasn't doing any traps.

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01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: What do you do instead of traps? What kind of

1102
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,959
Speaker 1: things are you into? What? What kind of music making

1103
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: am I into? Or what I thought you said? I

1104
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: thought you were saying traps. And in the physical exercise

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01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: I was was oh, no, no, no. As far as

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01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: the physical exercise, but it's mostly stage handing and downhill skateboarding.

1107
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,439
Speaker 1: Or this. Okay, okay, look it's and it's doing it's

1108
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: it's doing you plenty of favor. Can I can I

1109
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: tell you my opinion on skateboarders. Let the straight girls

1110
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: have them guys for whom that is true. Oh it's

1111
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: so real and masculine and all of that. Let let

1112
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: the straight girls. How don't speak for himself, let him speak.

1113
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: I'll just say that there is one gay downhill skateboarder

1114
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: out there who was a fantastic photographer and an amazing

1115
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: dude named Matthew Doubler, and you should check him out.

1116
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: He's all over Instagram, all over the place. The guy

1117
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: is a fucking shredder. You should check him out, honestly,

1118
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: for I do you think the gays will look up

1119
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: Matthew something Dublin, Matthew Maxwell Doubler, Maxwell Story Doubling. Can

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01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: I say something truly horrible when Tim Murray did his

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, about his bully from Ohio

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01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: which you couldn't see this, but he was doing Costom

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01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 1: Reveal on Costom Revealstom. Yeah, you couldn't see it, but

1124
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: I did go on Facebook and find his bully to

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01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: figure out whether he was actually bald hot or not?

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01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: And what's the verdict? Not really, I did that. I

1127
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: don't think I will look at this skateboarder. Look. I

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01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: think there's a sensitivity to them, really, but that's to

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01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: the skateboarders. The skateboarder. Do you think skateboarding is an

1130
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: art or something? I don't. I don't have any opinion

1131
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: either way. I just I remember many days, how's the

1132
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: days of watching these boys play Tony Hawk and just

1133
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: secretly pining for them? So you know that's that's my thing,

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01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: all right? Well, with that information, I think that it

1135
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: actually is time to move on to I don't think so. Honey,

1136
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: Now are you ready? Do you do you have one

1137
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: composed three options? Would like the two of you to

1138
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: look at them now and determine which one you would. Oh,

1139
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: you want us to look at the topics themselves? You

1140
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: know what? I don't want to. I think look at

1141
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: the topics these allow er. No, Well, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Sorry,

1142
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: we're just I think I would be most interested to

1143
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: hear this. Yeah, I love that. I think that's too.

1144
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: Think this will change minds. But first people what they are?

1145
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: All right? No? Okay, So the first one that we

1146
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: did not choose is the children have forgotten. See if

1147
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: this where the children have forgotten that sent we could

1148
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: do this. The children have forgotten the gun and Betty

1149
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: loose handbag. You have no idea what that is now?

1150
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. I mean, it's the

1151
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: greatest Alfree Wodd vehicle. I love Alfre word, but I

1152
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: don't know that. Yeah, no you don't because it's not

1153
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: available on streaming, it's out of print on DVD. It

1154
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: is gentle early nineties comedy where we said Penelope and

1155
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: Miller can totally be the front person for a movie

1156
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: and we were wrong. But it is the most watchable

1157
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: film you will ever see. And part of me is like,

1158
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: somebody needs to get the I P to this and

1159
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: turn it into a musical because it would be so

1160
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: into This one is people who watch Will and Grace

1161
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: but not Great News? Are you into great news? I'm

1162
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: a deep supporter of great news. Great news is very,

1163
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,959
Speaker 1: very funny. We're losing our Andrea Martin on difficult people.

1164
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: We need to conserve our Andrea Martin. It's super super

1165
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: funny like it is goofy, and I like, I deeply

1166
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: believe in funny sitcoms, and I think it's like that

1167
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: we have raised this zombie, this Revenant of willing Grace,

1168
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: and it is good and people are watching it and

1169
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: they're not investing in the funny comedies of today. Sure

1170
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,439
Speaker 1: like we're just gonna end up in a world who

1171
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: lose casual in Netflix's love and we will get what

1172
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: we deserve. Okay, yes that's fair. And you know what?

1173
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: It has a friend of the pod, Naomi Paragan rites

1174
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: for it, and then Tina fe plays the female Jack

1175
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: Donnegie of we mean, what else do you need? And

1176
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: Andrew Martin let's watch it. I didn't know that Naomi

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01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: Real's doing there. Um, so then he's done two voices

1178
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: for it thus far, really exciting little vo You take

1179
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: this and you're gonna go last okay, and the reveal

1180
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: will be in the actual I don't think somehow, Now

1181
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 1: are you gonna go? First time? Am I gonna go? For?

1182
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: You should go? Because I truly don't know. It's shocking

1183
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: that you never prepare. Okay, well, all right, well I'm

1184
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: just saying I don't think so, honey, Bowen that he

1185
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:05,439
Speaker 1: never prepares this never once, and maybe no it's not.

1186
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: But I'm also saying maybe it's why he consistently loses tournaments.

1187
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: Al Right, okay, al right, it hurts me when you

1188
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: do that. Well, I don't care that it does. Come

1189
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: to play indignant. Okay, here we go. This is I

1190
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: have a vicious I don't think so, this says Matt Rodgers.

1191
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: Is I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.

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01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. That Billy Eigner is too

1193
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: famous for us. Now, Bitch, I'm sorry, but I don't

1194
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: want to go to my Instagram and you're hanging out

1195
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: with Colton Haynes, who also was not for us, despite

1196
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: being one of us. Billy, I'm sorry, but it is

1197
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: difficult people being canceled because you were too famous for it.

1198
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: You all of a sudden, you're wearing really nice suits,

1199
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: being all sexy and handsome. It came out of nowhere.

1200
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: But I and you know I supported. All of a sudden,

1201
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 1: you are fucking Coulton hands on the American horror story. Bitch.

1202
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: That is a very famous, that is a very fancy

1203
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Billy was one of the fancy boys.

1204
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: We used to say we should ask Billy to be on.

1205
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey alive. And then I recently

1206
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: had to tell Bowen, no, the bitches to fancy. He

1207
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: is too fancy. Hanks that with Golden Hayes. All of

1208
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: a sudden, he has his high hair. He's giving you

1209
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: this like hot, like nineteen fifties retro sort of thing,

1210
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: sleeves rolled up. Literally, Billy come back to us. I

1211
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey till that one minute. You know what, Yeah,

1212
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: you're right, I think he is untouchable. Now he's become

1213
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: the person that he's made fun of. He's the abyss

1214
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: is stared backs, you know. But we love him still.

1215
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: He's wonderful. Uh he did talk to the Game show

1216
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: and was super super sweet and super super great. But

1217
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: I just want to say, what a get Nowadays, I

1218
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: look forward to playing this to a truly insufferable thirty

1219
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: three year old that Roger. I look forward to, like

1220
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: again the arms that your personal trainer has gotten for you,

1221
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 1: and the like the tense condescension that he'll give me,

1222
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: understanding understanding that I'm I might go for the gut

1223
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: about I knew you when girl, and like he's praying

1224
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: and it doesn't happen, but he's still skating on top

1225
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 1: of condescension. He's gonna toss me right aside. There is

1226
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,919
Speaker 1: no way, bitch, honestly. Also, no, this is not gonna happen.

1227
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why it's not gonna happen, because they're

1228
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: gonna go back to I don't think so, honey, And

1229
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna find me talking about all these celebrities. They're

1230
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: gonna find that I talk shit about Ellen an episode

1231
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: three with Sudi and they're gonna, well, we can't book

1232
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:36,479
Speaker 1: him on Ellen's And let me just re quote this again.

1233
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: Ellen has lost all her edge. She has lost her edge.

1234
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: I think, yes, it's pathetic. Who like, is she a

1235
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: comedian anymore? She's not a haircut she knows Ellen is,

1236
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: so she's an emojing. Al Right, here we go. I'm ready,

1237
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: you know what. I'm semi prepared for that. I'm happy

1238
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: to hear that this is Bowen yangs. I don't think so, honey,

1239
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 1: And time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Turtlenecks.

1240
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 1: My neck is too short for you. And listen, I

1241
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: have friends who pulled them off so well. Dave Mazzoni,

1242
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: professional choreographer. Dave Mazzoni has the swan like neck for it.

1243
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: My friend Matt over here has the neck for it.

1244
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: I don't have the neck for it. And you want

1245
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: to know what you don't want to You want to

1246
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 1: know why I've proven this out today because I thought

1247
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: I was gonna be bold and we're a new unique

1248
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: clow turtleneck that I that I bought this weekend and

1249
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: I wore to work, and I can no matter how

1250
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 1: I cuffed, it looked terrible. I looked like a fucking

1251
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what what even like like a little pokemon.

1252
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 1: I looked like a little digglet. I looked like a

1253
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: little digglet. And I can't pull off turtlenecks. And I

1254
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: if I can't have turtlenecks, then no one can. I

1255
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 1: don't think someone a turtlenecks. Why why should we cover

1256
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: up our necks? No one's giving nickis anymore. There's no

1257
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 1: practical utilitarian purpose for them anymore. And I don't think

1258
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: we should have them in fashion illegalized turtle necks, I say,

1259
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so many fucking turtle Next you know what.

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Speaker 1: Army Hammer wore one in the shoot and he looked

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01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: crazy at it. I don't think I do. I feel

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01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:13,600
Speaker 1: like I can visually, really viscerally, see visually really visceral. No,

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01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: see Army Hammer in one as of very recently, because yeah,

1264
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: he's doing all these interviews or call me by your name.

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01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: It looks amazing and that is the style. Now these

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01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: turned out to the leather jacket over it and pattern

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01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: pants Liniko. He said he's coming to I don't think

1268
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: so any and he was concerned about being cold, and

1269
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: he said, but don't worry. I brought a bunch of turtlenecks.

1270
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: He'll settle down with some nice lawyer and you'll always

1271
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: know you can't have two lawyers. Is he's a lawyer

1272
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: like you, guys, the best, like the best people to

1273
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: be fans of your work are gay lawyers, because it's

1274
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 1: like they got the money to show up and like

1275
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: the education to get the jokes. And it is like, OK,

1276
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 1: so there's this guy who listens to proper Rocket whose

1277
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 1: name is Dmitri Portnoy, and he was like, well, if

1278
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 1: somebody else is going to post it, I guess it will.

1279
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: And he fucking wrote the brief that like all of

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01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: the biggest First Amendment scholars in America like got him

1281
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: and some other lawyers to write a brief that was

1282
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 1: their opinion about the First Amendment for the Colorado Bakery case,

1283
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: and it was just like fuck you, Like like you're

1284
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: writing Kathleen Sullivan's brief, were like, you're a godgame superstar,

1285
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: why do you come to my show? Better that? Better

1286
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 1: that than the reverse. Just these like gays who are

1287
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 1: the smartest people in the world, who write for fucking

1288
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 1: Vulture and Slate and should be saving us from North Korea,

1289
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 1: but instead they're writing about how you know Mercedes were well,

1290
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:46,719
Speaker 1: did she really deserve the oscar in ninety two? Guys,

1291
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 1: I saw torch Song showed you last night and it

1292
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: was so good, And I have to say, um, a

1293
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 1: not great facelift has never fit more perfectly on a character.

1294
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 1: That's the second rave we've had for show. It's on

1295
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: this program. I just couldn't adore Michael Jury more. And

1296
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,799
Speaker 1: that's the second rape Drew d we had on last episode,

1297
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: and he raved up and down about about Michael Jury.

1298
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 1: I want to get Michael Lury on this show. That

1299
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 1: would be a great guy. I think Michael Urry. I

1300
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,600
Speaker 1: want to ask him about Ugly Betty. I want to

1301
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 1: ask him about Becky Newton. I want to ask him

1302
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,600
Speaker 1: about Cocktails and Classics, which which Drew was awesome on.

1303
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: I have to say I adore Becky Newton. I know

1304
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: that she's probably somewhere like on a procedural or something. Also,

1305
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,640
Speaker 1: I need you guys not understand that I was recurring

1306
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 1: on a multiicam that Michael Ury was on that was

1307
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 1: essentially died the week that I shot my first episode

1308
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 1: that it was so you can't connect the dots that way.

1309
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: Can I tell you what? We just audition for Ballers

1310
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 1: on HBO? Can you fucking imagine into the same stuff

1311
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 1: this week? And it's Ballers and HBO. We're just for

1312
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:02,879
Speaker 1: the well groomed assistant who has a twitch in his eye. Anyway,

1313
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: how did you do the twitch? Show me? No you

1314
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: do you go first? No? No, no, it wasn't even that,

1315
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't even that bad. It was more

1316
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: it was more like it was like that, you guys,

1317
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 1: this is hard podcasts. They are and literally you have

1318
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: to give people something to wonder about. Okay, this is

1319
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 1: guy Brandham's I don't think one of this is the

1320
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: selected topic, and he has he's ready to go. This

1321
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: is legend. I first of all, we should just stop

1322
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 1: and just gave his own book to stank face. He

1323
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 1: was like already ago. Bit, let's just say this is

1324
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 1: a huge moment that a lot of the listeners will

1325
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 1: be gaged just that this episode is even existing. Literally honestly,

1326
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 1: this is well, we'll talk about it, okay. Addresses guy Brandams.

1327
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. People

1328
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 1: who don't respect I don't think so, honey. Oh you

1329
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 1: love your cute little jokes. Oh he dresses like a

1330
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 1: short grandpa. Oh yes, I like said. He is probably

1331
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 1: a Republican, but he is a pop machine. He makes chams.

1332
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 1: He has given us as much good as like he's

1333
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 1: worth five spice girls like timber fucking Fireball. If you

1334
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,799
Speaker 1: cannot respect a song called Sexy Beaches Hotels, you deserve

1335
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 1: to lose the ability to orgasm because you shouldn't have

1336
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 1: the capacity to joy. Your hate is needed. It is

1337
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: failure to provide you with the symbols of culture that

1338
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: you understand. If he were giving you standard like black

1339
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 1: hip hop guy, you would have his face tattooed on

1340
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: your thigh. But because he dresses like a small business

1341
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: owner from Palm Beach, You're life. No, I cannot. I

1342
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: canna deal with it. When when U fucking cho was

1343
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: making her chump over to America, who took care of her?

1344
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 1: It was you? You are better than pimple. But I

1345
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 1: do not think so, Honey. That's one minute his life.

1346
01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: You love. That one made my day. That's the best

1347
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,799
Speaker 1: one I've heard yet. That's one for the back. Wow,

1348
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: that was great. You know what Tonight I'm gonna go home,

1349
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: and before I shut my eyes, I'm gonna say, and

1350
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 1: you know what time of my life? Yeah? I mean, look,

1351
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 1: can I just say those Choper songs are not good,

1352
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 1: but are wonderful talking. I'm talking about exotic, I'm talking

1353
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 1: about in my city? Are they about? Like they are

1354
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 1: all sort of like thematically like in my city. He's

1355
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: talking about Miami and she is talking about Mumbai. Um sing, yes,

1356
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 1: she doesn't sing in her own movies. Also, I just

1357
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 1: need to say this to you and to everyone listening. Culturally, Bollywood,

1358
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 1: I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry is possibly the

1359
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 1: best romantic comedy I have ever seen. I will buy

1360
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: it for both of you on iTunes. It is three

1361
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: hours long, five musical numbers. It's almost entirely in English.

1362
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: It is the most fun rom com, like gay rom

1363
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 1: com was like one Legit Hot Guy. It's literally just

1364
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 1: called I never pronounced to check. It's called dostana. It

1365
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: means friendship, but it's they have to pretend to be

1366
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: apartments and a very layered hair. Prianka Chopra is the

1367
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 1: girl who couldn't live with two straight guys. I love it.

1368
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: I love it, I love it, I love it. You

1369
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 1: know what, Bollywood has been a blind spot in culture

1370
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 1: for me, and I need to you know what. Yeah,

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01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 1: I I need to get into Bollywood, I think, and

1372
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 1: I think Matt is going to be my partner in

1373
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: this because I'm just now getting I'm such a late

1374
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: arrival on K pop. But I love I have Brandon.

1375
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 1: Scott Jones Um just did a movie with as you

1376
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: were in it as well, you were in a movie

1377
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: with well, I mean we didn't share some but I

1378
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 1: was at the tablor Rooter with her. She was gorgeous,

1379
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 1: he said, prettier in person. Yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah,

1380
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 1: Scott Jen said that he did have some scenes to yes,

1381
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 1: and like she was pulling up a video of like

1382
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: her dancing or something, and he was like, oh, I

1383
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 1: didn't know you could dance. She was like, yeah, I'm

1384
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 1: a huge fucking bolly. That. The fact that they demand,

1385
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: they demand choreography out of all their fucking stars is

1386
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: the best professional. Okay, guy speaking, because I love when

1387
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: Because okay, we haven't we haven't listened to you on

1388
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 1: Pop Rocket for a while. What are your jams? Tell

1389
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: us jams? What are you what are you hitting the

1390
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 1: streets hard for? I mean, like these days, I'm very

1391
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 1: much all about Ladybird. It gave me life and jams, pies.

1392
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: It's just a lot of piple you guys like it

1393
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 1: really is. It's celebrate, it's sexy beaches, hotels, it is fireball.

1394
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: How about this. We're going to name some things and

1395
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 1: you tell us if they're your jam. Okay, you go

1396
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: as an example, Um pink Oh, it is my jam

1397
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 1: in all of its form, both as color and human being. Okay.

1398
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 1: Um Demi Levado new Demi Vado, Yes, definitely my jam.

1399
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 1: Um louis for tell a new host of Pop Rocket.

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01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate that It's like every time I

1401
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: like see you on Twitter that people are like quoting

1402
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: something glorious that he put together, I'm like, God, are

1403
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 1: they even gonna let me back? So, yes, it is

1404
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 1: my jam okay um, And I'll ask this because I'm

1405
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 1: surprised Matt hasn't Kelly new Kelly, I haven't listened. Okay,

1406
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 1: that's all we had time today for guy. Oh No.

1407
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: When I associated with Kelly Clarkson before, like one time,

1408
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 1: insidentially in conversation, I implied you might like her, and

1409
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 1: you prickled so hard. Yes you did that. You were

1410
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 1: very That's not the entirety of my identity. Well it's not,

1411
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 1: but I do love. And also I feel literally the

1412
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: entire episode of wrap Up Show that I was on

1413
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 1: over at Stern was because Kelly Clarkson was on that

1414
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 1: day and I did that. I was the Kelly Clarkson expert. Yes,

1415
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 1: that was why I was booked. Like, but I also

1416
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 1: will say I'm almost a little upset that we did

1417
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: all that ship. We talked about Taylor so much, and

1418
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: I have not had a chance to sit here and

1419
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 1: tell the listeners of Lost Cultures that I am personally

1420
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,680
Speaker 1: offended and disappointed if you all haven't streamed Meaning of

1421
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 1: Life or bought Kelly Coxton's album Meaning of Life on

1422
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 1: iTunes or streamed it on Spotify, because it is so

1423
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 1: fucking good. There are some tracks on it which are

1424
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 1: so amazing. She sounds so much better than she ever has,

1425
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: which is crazy to even say, but it's the first

1426
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 1: time she sounds it alive in a week in her

1427
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: music and not bored. And I'm so happy. The new

1428
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 1: album is so good. And also it's been such a

1429
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 1: good time, good season for female pop releases because Taylor

1430
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 1: is very good. The Demi Lovito album is really good.

1431
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 1: I haven't really gotten through the Pink album, but I

1432
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 1: know that what I've heard is good, and the Kelly

1433
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 1: album is oh my god, it's so amazing, I'll tell you.

1434
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 1: The only one that I can't really get into is

1435
01:18:55,760 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 1: Miley Young now to a couple of tracks. Um but yeah,

1436
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 1: but it's a good time for the ladies. Sure there

1437
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: you go. Um well anyway, but this is what I

1438
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 1: what I was getting out earlier before Guy started as

1439
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, this, um, this is a huge.

1440
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 1: This is such a pleasure. We love you so much,

1441
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 1: Thank you. For doing the true. Thank you so much

1442
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 1: for making the show. Thank you for making me aware

1443
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 1: of so many delightful people who I would have not

1444
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 1: known before. Honestly, it's a love fest here at last,

1445
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 1: culture ASTs, and that feels really good after all the

1446
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 1: blood letting that we've had. Um, we love Guy Brandam,

1447
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,759
Speaker 1: we love you listening, We love you know hot engineer

1448
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 1: Will and we're so happy as his own Mike say goodbye,

1449
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:40,600
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Goodbye everyone, well, goodbye bowen, um, goodbye, goodbye.

1450
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 1: We must close off. I guess we should. We should

1451
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:57,759
Speaker 1: sing our song called Goodbye, Goodbye, goodbye, Oh, good bye, goodbyeye,

1452
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 1: good bye, hey hey hey, hey, hey hey goodbye. This

1453
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 1: has been a Forever Dog production executive produced by Brett Baham,

1454
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:23,519
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