WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Coaching Confident Corners

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<v Speaker 1>Get the popcorn ready. It's gonna be a show and

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<v Speaker 1>Ron will fleep. It doesn't get any better than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Unleash the far. Today, the NFL sent out a memo

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<v Speaker 1>Ron Wolfley official letterhead from the NFL where they put

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<v Speaker 1>dates on offseason events. They actually define their offseason calendar.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all that. Yeah, the Rookie Mini Caamp, the offseason workouts,

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<v Speaker 1>they Randatory Mini Camp, all the above. Obviously, they forgot

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<v Speaker 1>to put a date out there for the original Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>Night Football. The Big Red Raid presented by Santan Ford

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<v Speaker 1>in Gilbert. We are Santan Ford and we do have

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<v Speaker 1>plenty to talk about. Oh, I don't know, Ron Wolfley.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a draft class out there. There's an international player

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<v Speaker 1>has been allocated to the Cardinals. We have existing Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>changing numbers to single digits. We had a run on

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<v Speaker 1>long snappers in the draft, I mean, all the wolf

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<v Speaker 1>So much to talk about, including an in depth conversation

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<v Speaker 1>coming up with the coach of the cornerbacks assistant Greg Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>who has a couple of Day three corners who certainly

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<v Speaker 1>don't test like Day three quarters and or talk like

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<v Speaker 1>Day three cornerbacks, Greg Williams, right around the corner here

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<v Speaker 1>on the big Red Ring. Yeah, Paully can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>actually talk to Greg Williams. But it is very, very

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<v Speaker 1>interesting right here we are the free agent period. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, for all intents and purposes, is over.

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<v Speaker 1>In the draft, now is over, and what is the

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<v Speaker 1>next step in the off season. It is getting some

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<v Speaker 1>of these rookies assimilated, of course, to the offense, to

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<v Speaker 1>the defense. It's getting some of these new guys assimilated

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And it's so interesting, Paully, because I never

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<v Speaker 1>thought you could get better in the off season, not

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<v Speaker 1>the National Football League. You gotta put the mouthguard in,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta put the shoulder pads on the helmet. If

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have the mouthguard in, you can't get better

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<v Speaker 1>in the National Football League. Well, I believe that until

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Breston. I don't know if you remember it, Paully

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and seven to two thousand and eight. The

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<v Speaker 1>transformation that happened in the off season does Steve Breston

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<v Speaker 1>was profound and that totally changed my opinion as to

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not you can actually get better in the

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<v Speaker 1>off season. Nobody, and I mean nobody in mind. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what seventeen years as a Cardinal sideline reporter got yelled

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<v Speaker 1>at as a rookie more than Steve Breston by Kurt Warner.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot tell you how many times as a rookie,

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt would come to the sideline and just starts screaming Steve,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Steve would be hin under the gatorade table.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just but you're right. By the time

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<v Speaker 1>he got to year number two, he was a different player. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a heck of a player until he injured

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<v Speaker 1>his knee for a few Mollie, it was incredible. It

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<v Speaker 1>really was a transformation. Once again, I forget how many

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<v Speaker 1>receptions he had, Maybe it was eighteen in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and seventy at seventy seven the next year, he went

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<v Speaker 1>from ninety two yards receiving. This is in my head,

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<v Speaker 1>I kid you not. I'm not looking at anything, at

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<v Speaker 1>anything ninety two yards in two thousand and seven to

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand and six in two thousand and eight. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine that, Paul, I mean a thousand yard receiver

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<v Speaker 1>when you had ninety two yards receiving the year previous.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the year where the Cardinals had three one

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<v Speaker 1>thousand yard receivers, Anquan Bolt and Steve Preston and Todd

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<v Speaker 1>Haley almost got punched at the end of Week sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>because remember they ran a few plays to Steve Preston

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<v Speaker 1>in a game that was out of hand, and the

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<v Speaker 1>opposing coaching staff it might have been Seattle, I can't remember,

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<v Speaker 1>they did not take kindly to the Cardinals getting the

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<v Speaker 1>ball to Steve Preston and getting him that thousand yards

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<v Speaker 1>at their expense and a lotsided loss. What is the

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<v Speaker 1>point of all of this? These new additions, especially the

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<v Speaker 1>young guys. They can get better in an off season.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we got to just execute the off season. That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>About fifty nine minutes from now, Wolf will not be

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<v Speaker 1>able to find his car keys. He won't remember where

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<v Speaker 1>he put his sunglasses, but he did remember the rookie

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<v Speaker 1>yardage from Steve Breston for two thousand and seven. We

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<v Speaker 1>are often running on the fig red rage presented by

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<v Speaker 1>Santan Boord and Gilbert. We are Satan for it is time.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the car. A big decision forthcoming for the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Red the Arizona Cardinals, Same Big Cardinals. We're gonna gild

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<v Speaker 1>every day. This kid is an athletic great, a monster

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<v Speaker 1>in a great pick. I think the Cardinals kind of start.

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<v Speaker 1>Rundo might be the most dynamic player in this entire draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Rundal More, we'll get the first job and much more

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<v Speaker 1>this kid. After three days of the twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>NFL draft of Cardinals, at the end of it all

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<v Speaker 1>have seven new players are Victor d and Cage again

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<v Speaker 1>Interla winked pleasure and it's seven Collins with a second

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<v Speaker 1>about it just a little montage their courtesy Bear Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Almohundro the Cardinals Draft Class two thousand and twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the Big Red Range presented by satan Ford

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<v Speaker 1>and Gilbert. We are Satan Ford, Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley,

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<v Speaker 1>And this time a week ago, going into the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>wolf remember you and Dave were racing to get the

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<v Speaker 1>name Zaven Collins out of your mouth, right, both of

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, We're going with him. I mean, who would

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<v Speaker 1>think here on May six, the Arizona Cardinals wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>an official answer from Larry Fitzgerald yet as to his future,

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<v Speaker 1>but they do have a middle linebacker who's nearly six five,

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<v Speaker 1>two sixty and he's coming in and the comps are

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere from Tremaine Edmonds to a Brian or Lacker. All

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<v Speaker 1>I know was on draft night with mister Pash we

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<v Speaker 1>were doing the coverage wolf I wrote MLBMI board and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, the m equals mean, give me a middle

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker who's mean, who can actually set the tone and

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<v Speaker 1>fill the gaps in that front seven and just snuff

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<v Speaker 1>out the run game. And this guy checks a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of boxes, Zavan Collins. Yeah, PAULI. Going into the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>there were a lot of people that thought Zaban Collins

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<v Speaker 1>would be somewhere in the twenties, you know, anywhere from

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four twenty five. I heard as high as twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one maybe in there, but he really seemed to climb

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<v Speaker 1>up some draft boards as we neared the draft, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals took him there obviously at number sixteen. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the fact he's a box player that's six five

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<v Speaker 1>and two hundred and sixty pounds, you know me, Paullly,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. You know, here's a guy that hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to stick his face into the fire and

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be physical. I think a stronger version of

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings linebacker Anthony bar Think of Anthony Bar right, here's

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Barr six five. Anthony Barr is a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>weighs two hundred and forty five, two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five pounds somewhere in there. And yet Anthony Barr plays

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<v Speaker 1>on the week side inside for the most part, and

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<v Speaker 1>they'll move him on the line of scrimmage and bring

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<v Speaker 1>him off the edge as well. I think Zaven Collins

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<v Speaker 1>is like Anthony Barr, except he's going to be playing

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<v Speaker 1>with a little bit more, but he'll be playing that

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<v Speaker 1>Mike linebacker, but you can still take Zaven Collins and

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<v Speaker 1>move him to the edge and bring him off the edge,

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<v Speaker 1>just like Anthony bar Paul. They asked him what's his

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<v Speaker 1>favorite aspect of playing defense. He said, well, other than

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<v Speaker 1>the takeaway, it's tackle for loss. I loved hearing that.

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<v Speaker 1>It just it tells you about his mentality. Yeah, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>And we talked Avants Joseph about this and he brought

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<v Speaker 1>it up on his own. The biggest need for the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals on defense, arguably other than maybe corner at this

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<v Speaker 1>point and trying to figure that out, was run defense.

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<v Speaker 1>They finished in the bottom third. So if you're adding

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<v Speaker 1>a jj wad who led the NFL and tackles for

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<v Speaker 1>losses against the run, and now you get his Zaven Collins.

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<v Speaker 1>But in addition to that, Wolf, when I heard about

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<v Speaker 1>his ability to cover the running back and the tight end,

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<v Speaker 1>and look, Jordan Hicks has been a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>for the ears on a Cardinals the last couple of years,

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<v Speaker 1>but he has struggled at times. It's been a mismatch

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<v Speaker 1>when he's had to cover the back out of the

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<v Speaker 1>backfield or tight ends down the seam. And if you're

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<v Speaker 1>telling him he Zaven Collins has the athleticism and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the size to be that guy that goes a long

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<v Speaker 1>way for advanced Joseph and his game planning, no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>about it, BULLYE. And that was a weird thing about

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Hicks as well. When he came in. He had

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<v Speaker 1>the reputation of being a guy that was a really

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<v Speaker 1>good cover mic backer and he has struggled with And

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<v Speaker 1>I think he'd be the first one to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that I love this because I think Jordan Hicks also

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be if he's given the opportunity, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's going to be an excellent mentor to Zaven Collins. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>once again, I'm not saying that he's going to capitulate

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<v Speaker 1>the position. I'm not all right Jordan Hicks to me,

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<v Speaker 1>if he's given that opportunity, I think Jordan Hicks is

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<v Speaker 1>going to compete and it's not going to be easy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do see him being an excellent mentor. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a brilliant individual. He really is any good dude as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could see him passing on a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge to Zavid Collins well. And whether it's Zaven Collins

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<v Speaker 1>or the round two pick Rondale Moore. Every chance is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be had for these guys to get into

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<v Speaker 1>that rotation early. And that's not us, that's the head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>Cliff Kingsbury. We knew we had to get better than

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<v Speaker 1>us for please with how that thing ended last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and we wanted to improve through the draft. And Steve

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<v Speaker 1>made that crystal clear to the coaching staff and personnelity

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<v Speaker 1>depart in those first two picks. Need to play player

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<v Speaker 1>earl and play a lot and that was the mission.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel good about where it's at. And let's

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<v Speaker 1>face a wolf, Rondale Moore would not be an Arizona

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinal if Andy Isabella had panned out in round two

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<v Speaker 1>two years earlier. Cliff Kingsbury is still searching, seemingly for

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<v Speaker 1>that blazer, that guy who can really run and make

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<v Speaker 1>people miss in space underneath and and from all accounts,

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<v Speaker 1>Rondale Moore is that guy. He was that guy in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen, a first team All America. This kid is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely he is electric. He's small, polly something you know

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<v Speaker 1>all about being dominionative of yourself, but he's electric, just combustible.

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<v Speaker 1>And of all the picks the Cardinals made over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the one that I'm most into over the draft, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the one that I'm most interested in seeing

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<v Speaker 1>what he's gonna do because he is a game changer.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a guy that can run by people. We've seen

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<v Speaker 1>this before, but you tell me that he can run

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<v Speaker 1>by lineup in the slot and run a poet stover

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<v Speaker 1>the top and you can throw it down the field

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<v Speaker 1>and beat somebody and show that once every four games

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<v Speaker 1>on tape. I'm telling you right now, ball home. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole puncher in coverage, and the guys that will

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<v Speaker 1>fill those holes will be DeAndre Hopkins and AJ Greene

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<v Speaker 1>and Christian Kirk. You see the tweet from Dez Bryant,

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<v Speaker 1>former Cowboys Pro Bowl receiver. It was five hours before

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<v Speaker 1>round two. He tweeted out Rondale Moore instant impact. Wherever

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, remember this tweet and tweet Dez Bryant. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see. Obviously, the Cardinals like what they picked up

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<v Speaker 1>in round two. In other years when they got the

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<v Speaker 1>likes of an Ant, Kuan Bolden, Buddha Baker at Carlos

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<v Speaker 1>Dansby Klis, guys like that. Let's talk about the corners

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<v Speaker 1>on Day three and a safety as well with the

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<v Speaker 1>Corners coach Correig Williams. Next, then the Big Red Rage

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<v Speaker 1>presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. With one and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six pick in the twenty twenty one NFL Draft, the

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona Cardinals selected Marco Wilson, cornerback, Florida smart player too,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what they valued. Rundale Moore graduated for doing

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half years and Zavan Collins was a

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<v Speaker 1>high school valedictorian. Marco Wilson aptitude tests off the chart,

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<v Speaker 1>smart player with there of course athletic of Villaina. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he should be known for more than throwing the shoe

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<v Speaker 1>against La Shoe. He's a good player, trained by his

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<v Speaker 1>father who was a college defensive back. His brother Quincy

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson also in the NFL. Good bloodlines, good intellects. Charles Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah preceded by Peter Schreger, NFL Network Kara Chris, Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Kara Chris with the pick all part of that Day

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<v Speaker 1>three parade of players coming to the Arizona Cardinals and

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<v Speaker 1>Wolf This is just me. But if I'm a rookie

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<v Speaker 1>corner looking to make a team and make a name

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<v Speaker 1>for myself. Is there any better opportunity here in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one than the Arizona Cardinals and what you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at on defense right now? No, you got that right,

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<v Speaker 1>POUI with Vans Joseph in his scheme, they play an

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<v Speaker 1>awful lot of man cover man, walk up over a

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver and put your hands on them. And the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who directly coaches them up is joining us now

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<v Speaker 1>on the big Red range presented by Santan Ford in

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<v Speaker 1>Gilbert third season coaching corners for the Cardinals is twelfth

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<v Speaker 1>year coach in the NFL. The Corners coach Greg Williams

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<v Speaker 1>on board, coach, how are we doing tonight? I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>good man. I appreciate you guys having me onf No,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, coach, We really appreciate it, heared. Just tell

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<v Speaker 1>us what does it take? What does it take from

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<v Speaker 1>a coach's perspective to be a good press man corner?

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<v Speaker 1>What it takes as a guy with supreme confidence really,

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<v Speaker 1>because as you know, man, you're out there on an island,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know it's it's so much exposure that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be able to put place behind you, bad

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<v Speaker 1>place behind you and also put the good places behind you.

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<v Speaker 1>So you need a guy that has supreme confidence and

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<v Speaker 1>the supreme belief in itself to go out there. And

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<v Speaker 1>then obviously the talent. I mean, you got to be

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<v Speaker 1>talented to play in this league anyway, So you got

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<v Speaker 1>to have that. That's approved requisite. You know what, It's

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting you bring that up right off the top,

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<v Speaker 1>because a couple of weeks ago here in the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Red Rage, we had the pleasure of talking with Frank Sanders,

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<v Speaker 1>a long time receiver for the years, on a Cardinal's

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<v Speaker 1>former round two pick, and then one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>he said about bringing in rookie corners we anticipated this

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<v Speaker 1>was that receivers in the NFL, we'll welcome young corners

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<v Speaker 1>to the league by trying to steal their confidence, in

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<v Speaker 1>the words of Frank Sanders, And well, we remember that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then listen to Tay Gowan when he's talking to

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<v Speaker 1>the media, because if you want belief in yourself, listen

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<v Speaker 1>to him after he was picked in round six. Don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been counting out my whole life. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>show on a big platform that I could play, and

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm about to sold Doca Domino on the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be a Tom Brady o the corners. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I needed this. I needed this in my home, my journey,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the way I'm gonna pros the game. So

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say thank you for the way. Actually, So, coach,

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<v Speaker 1>is that what you were talking about, that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>confidence say, I'm going to be the Tom Brady of corners. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously he's got that confidence. But it's It's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>about him is once you get to know him, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just what he says. He actually uh, he actually

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<v Speaker 1>lives at you know what I mean. Uh, even even

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<v Speaker 1>talking to him in the last few days, just putting

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<v Speaker 1>installs in and talking to him, he's he backs it

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<v Speaker 1>up by his work ethic. So it's not just talk.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of guys can talk it, but you really

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<v Speaker 1>have to believe it and you have to walk the walk.

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<v Speaker 1>And so far since I've known this young man, he

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<v Speaker 1>has what it takes to actually walk the walk when

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<v Speaker 1>it when it comes to that top of confidence. Coach,

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<v Speaker 1>what are your thoughts on Marco Wilson and getting him

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth prom We thought right away VJ and

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<v Speaker 1>myself and Marcus Robertson as we watched him, we knew

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<v Speaker 1>that he had, uh talent, you know he had. He

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<v Speaker 1>has a skill set just like some of the other

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<v Speaker 1>elite corners that went earlier in the draft. And Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a matter of getting consistent. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>think that he has that in him obviously the bloodline

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<v Speaker 1>that he has. Uh. I was with the Coats when

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<v Speaker 1>we drafted his brother, who I am still so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still friends with to this day. And UH and respect

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<v Speaker 1>because he was very knowledgeable about the game. So we

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<v Speaker 1>know his background and the kind of work ethlete that

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna bring. So we think with Marco and and

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<v Speaker 1>and say we think their best ball is ahead of him.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're Marco Wilson and you walked into

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<v Speaker 1>Florida and you started as a true freshman at eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>years of age. Look at all the sec receivers who

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<v Speaker 1>just went in this draft, right, So if there's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who could really threaten to get some early playing time,

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<v Speaker 1>I would think it would be a guy like Marco Wilson. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Marco's gonna come in and he's I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe he's gonna be too big for him at all.

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<v Speaker 1>He's obviously proven that this guy's he's and if you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he played a lot of a lot of good football

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<v Speaker 1>in high school as well, so he's he's been around it,

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<v Speaker 1>he's played it. And then, like he said, he's started

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<v Speaker 1>and he played a ton of games in the SEC.

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<v Speaker 1>So he'll be facing receivers that he saw and that

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<v Speaker 1>he saw on Saturdays. He'll be seeing some of these

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<v Speaker 1>same guys on Sunday. So it's not gonna be too

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<v Speaker 1>big for him. He's gonna He's got a nice, quiet

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<v Speaker 1>confidence about himself. And that's kind of what we looked

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<v Speaker 1>at when Steve was asking about these guys and the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of guys he wanted to be Cardinals. Uh, those

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<v Speaker 1>are the type of type of characteristics that he was

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<v Speaker 1>looking for. And I think both of those guys really, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they really have that kind of characteristics about them. And Coach,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of conversation in regard to Marco

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson about him throwing a shoe against LSA. What are

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on that overall? Coach, Um, I knew about

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<v Speaker 1>the shoe just because you know, I watched the news,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched Sports Center, but when we watched the coaches copy,

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<v Speaker 1>when I when I was evaluating his game film. U

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<v Speaker 1>watched the tape. He does a lot of good things

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<v Speaker 1>on tape. So as you watch the game and you're

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<v Speaker 1>watching all the plays he's making on tape, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the tape on the coaches copy it cuts off before

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<v Speaker 1>he throws the shoe. So you just watched the coaches copy,

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<v Speaker 1>you get all the good plays without the throwing of

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<v Speaker 1>the shoe. So I knew about what happened, but but

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<v Speaker 1>it was I was, I was already I was already

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<v Speaker 1>convinced by the skill set that I saw throughout the game.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're not worried about good game. Yeah, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>worried about him having an emotional issue where he you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, emotion on the football field. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that's necessarily a bad thing unless it makes you do

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<v Speaker 1>something dumb. I mean, Wolf, you're the guy. You're the

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<v Speaker 1>guy through the dog biscuits and the dog bones back

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<v Speaker 1>at the dog pound in Cleveland when you're on the understand, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly my point. It takes one to no one

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. Well, I mean coach seriously, though, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it really sounds like he's learned a lesson to hear

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<v Speaker 1>him talk about it and talk about how you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be in control of your emotions at all times,

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<v Speaker 1>and how silly mistakes can affect not just you but

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<v Speaker 1>other people. I mean, if you're gonna learn that less

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<v Speaker 1>in college is the time to do it, I would presume, yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>And and and talking to him, talking to him. I

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<v Speaker 1>know Steve had a chance to speak with him over zoom.

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<v Speaker 1>So did Advanced Joseph. So did I. We did that

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<v Speaker 1>on a couple of separate occasions. H get to know him,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know that it wasn't a malicious act. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't to hurt his teammates. He's not an out of

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<v Speaker 1>control guy. And we did our due diligence and talking

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<v Speaker 1>to down there in Gainsville, and you can't find one person,

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<v Speaker 1>one person you know that's within that building that had

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<v Speaker 1>something negative to say about his personality. So that convinced

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<v Speaker 1>us right there, boy, coach, I would love to hear

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about your corner back room, if you would,

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<v Speaker 1>when you talk about Malcolm Butler and Robert Alfred. A guy,

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<v Speaker 1>that man, Robert Alfred, if they can just keep him healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see him go out and ball

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<v Speaker 1>out here talk about your cornerback room and the veterans

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<v Speaker 1>in it. I really like how how we put it together.

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<v Speaker 1>Just from a standpoint, Murphy's coming into his own right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we expect big things from him this year.

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<v Speaker 1>But you guys saw Robert Alfred from a training camp

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<v Speaker 1>standpoint over the last two years. Unfortunately the fan base

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't had a chance to see it in games. But

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<v Speaker 1>we expecting big things from him, he told the last

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<v Speaker 1>two years, just from his performance and what he brings

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<v Speaker 1>from a tenacity level, um, you know, to to our

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<v Speaker 1>team into our secondary. I mean, this guy is energy

0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:12.800
<v Speaker 1>and a bottle, you know what I mean. If you

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<v Speaker 1>if you're ever around him, he is always on coach

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely absolutely absolutely, he's he's He's a dog in the

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<v Speaker 1>epitomy of the word. That's that's, that's what he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he still plays with that lte. He plays with

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<v Speaker 1>a chip on his shoulder. I'm a small school guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Regardless of where he was drafted. He still plays with

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<v Speaker 1>kind of that small school chip on his shoulder, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what made him as successful as he's been. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you remember this guy's playing in the Super Bowl and

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<v Speaker 1>played pretty well, and it's one of the big questions

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<v Speaker 1>for you on Malcolm Butler is to try and figure out, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>at age thirty one, can he really check in shadow

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<v Speaker 1>and travel a guy, a premier number one receiver and

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<v Speaker 1>handle that all by himself. Is that something he's known

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<v Speaker 1>for doing, or you're gonna have to change the scheme accordingly.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's being in the two places that he's

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<v Speaker 1>been in New England and Tennessee, He's had a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to be in multiple schemes. Uh, So I think he

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<v Speaker 1>can adapt to whatever we want him to do and

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<v Speaker 1>whatever will help the team win. Obviously, you guys have

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<v Speaker 1>seen vans as defenses. They're they're multiple and he'll do

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<v Speaker 1>uh well, we'll do what it takes, uh, game permitting,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, game plan permitting, and so if he has

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<v Speaker 1>to do what he can. But he's he's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>another guy that uh you know, for the for the

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<v Speaker 1>time that I've known him, he's willing to do anything

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<v Speaker 1>that you ask him to do, whether it's to stay

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<v Speaker 1>right they left or travel. Uh, he's done it all

0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and he's he's more than willing to do that in

0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:42.399
<v Speaker 1>this game as well. Well. Coach, Thank you for the

0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:44.800
<v Speaker 1>time I tell you when you hear Marco Wilson and

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<v Speaker 1>take Allen talk about how they love to watch film

0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.399
<v Speaker 1>with Durell Reevas and take Allan likes to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>himself at being on Gowan Island. You know it's intriguing

0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:56.480
<v Speaker 1>if nothing else, no doubt about that. So we thank

0:21:56.520 --> 0:22:00.119
<v Speaker 1>you for the time and the insight. No, I appreciate you, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Paul, thank you Gran. I appreciate you guys

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<v Speaker 1>having me on right on coach. Look forward to talking

0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:09.680
<v Speaker 1>to you down the road. Okay, absolutely, you gotta take care, okay, man,

0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Well if how many dog biscuits did you throw at

0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:15.360
<v Speaker 1>the dog pel in the day, it was just one

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<v Speaker 1>dollar took right there, That's all it took. In a

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<v Speaker 1>time out, Paul, I picked it up. I threw it

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<v Speaker 1>into the crowd as a rookie, and we got bombarded.

0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:29.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Paul, hundreds of dog biscuits crashing down into

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<v Speaker 1>our huddle. Still, guy, you picking it out of their

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<v Speaker 1>ear after in the shower, it was proven you got

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<v Speaker 1>treated like Josel two. We just got treated by Yankees fans,

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<v Speaker 1>big red rage. Back right after this. We're the sixteenth pick.

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<v Speaker 1>The Arizona Cardinals select Zavin Shicker Better twenty three David Collins.

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<v Speaker 1>That dude's an animal, six three, two sixty linebacker, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best linebackers and all the cops football. What

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<v Speaker 1>I liked about him was having size, football acumen, instincts, coverability.

0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:07.119
<v Speaker 1>This guy's got rare and unusual dreaming skills for a

0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:09.720
<v Speaker 1>guy who's only six foot five, two hundred and sixty five.

0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I only dream to Arizona and being in that organization,

0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:17.640
<v Speaker 1>with that community, with everything there to something that I've

0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:23.000
<v Speaker 1>dreamed of, and we could college Savan Collins Cardinal's first

0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:26.040
<v Speaker 1>round picks, Zavan Collins meaning the media, Zavan Collins is

0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:30.960
<v Speaker 1>draft night phone call going viral and just the reaction

0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:34.360
<v Speaker 1>and you see how much football means to the young

0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 1>man and his family, especially mom who raised him. And

0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:41.879
<v Speaker 1>so now you have Zaven Collins coming in and given

0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:45.119
<v Speaker 1>every chance from what we can tell, to compete from

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<v Speaker 1>day one to be the number one middle linebacker. Not

0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 1>saying it's going to be easy, but there will be opportunities.

0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:53.720
<v Speaker 1>There's no doubt about it. It's a big red rage

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:56.359
<v Speaker 1>presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford,

0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley special thanks again at cornerbacks coach

0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Greg Williams for joining us. But as far as Zaban

0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:05.639
<v Speaker 1>Collins goes, especially when you think of Round one this

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:08.960
<v Speaker 1>year and then Round one last year, Ron Wolfley, parry

0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:12.400
<v Speaker 1>them up with Isaiah Simmons. What did we talk about

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:14.440
<v Speaker 1>the last couple of months, right, If you could get

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 1>that combination right in the middle back when the Cardinals

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:23.240
<v Speaker 1>had Carlos Dansby and Daryl Washington, most recently Tampa with

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Devin White and Lavante David Man. If you can get

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:29.160
<v Speaker 1>that dynamic duo in the middle of your defense, that's

0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:31.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot for an offense to think about. Yeah, no

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 1>doubt about it. BALLI, you know, I think back to

0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Navarrel Bowman and Patrick Willis. I really knew those two

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>guys are Luke Keekley and Thomas Davis PAULI. When you

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>have two inside linebackers that are three down linebackers that

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:48.240
<v Speaker 1>do not come off the field, it is a massive

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:51.680
<v Speaker 1>advantage to a defensive coordinator and to a defense overall.

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:54.600
<v Speaker 1>It is paul to have two guys that will not

0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:57.480
<v Speaker 1>come off the field, and the reason why is because

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:00.840
<v Speaker 1>it speaks to their athleticism. It's speaks to the fact

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:03.600
<v Speaker 1>that not only will they stick their face into the fan,

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 1>not only are they physical in rundown situations, but they

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:09.920
<v Speaker 1>stay on the field when you try to throw the

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:13.119
<v Speaker 1>ball in third and obbious pass situations. It is a

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:16.639
<v Speaker 1>huge advantage, especially in today's NFL, where's so much of

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:19.479
<v Speaker 1>the time you're gonna get eleven personnel, one back, one

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:22.760
<v Speaker 1>tight end, three wide receivers. Now all of a sudden,

0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:25.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what, You've got six blockers when you count

0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 1>the five down, the five offensive linemen of course, and

0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 1>then the tight end, Polly, that's six to block six

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 1>because you're gonna go nickel for the most part in

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the National Football League, which means you're gonna have four down,

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 1>two inside linebackers in five dbs, including three corners. That's

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 1>exactly what the Arizona Cardinals are going to do. And

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 1>if you tell me Zaven Collins can master that, and

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.160
<v Speaker 1>that's a tall order, Polly, But if you can tell

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 1>me he can master third and obbious pass situations and

0:25:56.880 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 1>all the calls, all the checks that come with that.

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:03.240
<v Speaker 1>With Isaiah Simmons on the field, man, it is a

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:06.719
<v Speaker 1>huge advantage for Vance Joseph and the Cardinals. I mean,

0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 1>think about when the sneaky Kyle Shanahan starts going up

0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 1>tempo right or Sean McVay, and what are they trying

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:15.680
<v Speaker 1>to do. They're trying to limit your substitutions. Yes, they're

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:19.399
<v Speaker 1>trying to get that personnel mismatch. And so all of

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, to your point, exactly right, if you have

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>those guys who have that athleticism to be able to

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:29.200
<v Speaker 1>be on the field and be true three down linebackers, yeah,

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:33.120
<v Speaker 1>advantage your defense. And it was interesting on Cardinals Draft

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Central on Draft Night last Thursday night, team owner Michael

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Bidwell told us that there they were in the draft

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<v Speaker 1>room and they were starting to sweat a little bit

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:42.359
<v Speaker 1>because New England was coming up and they had a

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 1>bad feeling that Zavian Collins might be in the crosshairs

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.639
<v Speaker 1>a Bill Belichick and the Patriots war room well to

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:52.119
<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals benefit, and we talked about this with five

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:55.439
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks going in the first fifteen picks, sure enough there

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 1>was Mac Jones, and sure enough, a little bit later,

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots shared with the Cardinals if the quarterback wasn't there,

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 1>zaven Collins would be going to New England instead. He's

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 1>coming to the Cardinals. And here Steve kind the GM

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:11.119
<v Speaker 1>talking about where Zaven Collins is rated on the Cardinals

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 1>big board. We really liked him. Our coaching staff, our

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:18.119
<v Speaker 1>scouting staff, everybody as a whole had him as one

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>of our higher rated defensive players in the entire draft.

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>He also had an Alpha tag, which for us, the

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Alpha Berg tag is given to players that have rare

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 1>leadership qualities, great instincts, great field for the game, our

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:35.679
<v Speaker 1>tremendous locker room guys, and Zaven Collins is certainly one

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>of them. Steven went on to say that maybe five

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:42.200
<v Speaker 1>or six players in an entire draft class will get

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 1>that Alpha tag, and Zaven Collins was one of those guys.

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 1>And Wolf I defy anyone who watched the Arizona Cardinals

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 1>last year and saw Week sixteen when they had a

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:54.920
<v Speaker 1>lack of energy and intensity inexplicable with the playoffs in

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 1>line Week seventeen, go back to Week four at Carolina.

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:00.640
<v Speaker 1>I get into this with Kyle all the time, leadership

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:03.880
<v Speaker 1>versus analytics, and I'm just saying, to deny that leadership

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>doesn't exist is to call the decision makers wrong. Yes,

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, So no, no, absolutely, Paul. You're right at

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 1>it right there. And you know I love Kyle. I

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 1>love him, but I argue with him as well. I'm

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 1>betty bety things. But that's okay. He's got his perspective

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 1>and I've got mine. I can just say right now

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:27.120
<v Speaker 1>what I love about this. Once again, Isaiah Simmons Isaiah

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 1>Simmons six four paul, two hundred and thirty five pounds.

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 1>And now you've got Zaven Collins at six five, two

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:36.120
<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty And by the way, did you see

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>the length he's got on him. I mean he is

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>unbelievably long. His arms are long. You were talking about

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>in a reach of eighty three inches, Paul, which is incredible.

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 1>You put Isaiah Simmons in his length on that week

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 1>side inside backer with Zaven Collins in his length, Man, Paul,

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you it's gonna be difficult to make some

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 1>of those throws, those quick throw across the middle. Hopefully

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>this is going to be something that again Zavian Collins

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 1>is going to pick this defense up early. I'm skeptical

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>of it, Paulie. And you know why I'm skeptical. Mike

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Backer is one of the most difficult positions to come

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>from college into the National Football League and know what

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 1>you're doing, not not just getting everyone else lined up,

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 1>knowing what your responsibilities are and what you're supposed to do,

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>all the checks, all the adjustments. It is a huge

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>task for a rookie to come in and do. But

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 1>you know what, the Cardinals think, he's got a chance

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>of doing just that. And you know what to Jordan

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Hicks credit, Not only did he does he know his position,

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>but he knows everyone else's position. So to your point,

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Hicks is a guy. If you talk to the

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 1>other guys in that defense, he's setting everybody up and

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 1>aligning everybody. So yes, it does go beyond your position.

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 1>But but well, the fact that he's a natural inside linebacker,

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 1>unlike a Hassan Reddick. Hassan Reddick can run somewhere in

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the four fours or a but he never played like

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 1>it because there was that hesitation. It was always a

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 1>half step or a step slow to react, and at

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 1>that point it doesn't matter, it's too late. Yes, Paully

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>was his eyes. Hassan Raddick. You know how much I

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 1>love and respect this kid. He worked so dug on

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>hard but it was his eyes that betrayed him all

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 1>the time coming off the edge. That's where he needs

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>to be, and I'm glad that that's where he's going

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 1>to play. But you know what's the Zaven Collins comparison

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 1>does not hold up at all, and it's because that's

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>where Zaven Collins played off the ball. He's an inside

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>linebacker that you could take and stick him on the

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>edge and bring him off the edge at some point

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>in time. I think we'll see that at some point

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 1>inside Paully, I think we'll see the Anthony bar An

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Anthony bar In a week side inside is not a

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 1>mic backer. But still every now and then, if you

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>want to get Zaven Collins some reps, especially early on,

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 1>you could totally have him line up opposite of a

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Chandler Jones. Well, we saw it on occasion last year

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>with Isaiah Simmons. You did. You saw him ug in

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:03.479
<v Speaker 1>the A gap and going, you saw him coming off

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the edge, you saw him in the slot at times.

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:08.719
<v Speaker 1>So there was a lot of talk about keeping Isaiah

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Simmons in one spot a year ago that did not materialize.

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 1>They did use him in a variety of roles. Think

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 1>about yeah, you get a ton of rops for the

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>most part. True, he didn't get a ton of rops

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 1>with Palli. I just want to say this quickly. I

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>love the fact that got a bunch of dogs in

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 1>that locker room, especially on the defensive side of the ball.

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>That's gonna help Zaven Collins the expectation as to how

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 1>you go about your business and how you're gonna play

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 1>this game. He's got dogs all around him. That's gonna

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>help him. Best case scenario, Russell Wilson comes the line

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>of scrimmage. He's got fifty five Chandler Jones. He's got

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>JJ Watt to think about. Oh there's Isaiah Simmons. Wait

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 1>a minute, Bodda Baker is showing blitz. I got this

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 1>six five, two sixty linebacker Zaven Collins snorting in the

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>A gap. There's a lot to think about if you're

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback before you snap the ball. We continue with

0:31:57.240 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 1>the Big Red Rage right after this with the forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine and twenty one NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinal select

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Rundale More receiver Perdue just talked about trying to get

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>faster over the top. I said that because there's a

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of buzz about them maybe trading up for Jaylen Waddle.

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>But Rondale Moore can't lie a little four and three.

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:22.480
<v Speaker 1>You can use him on some of these gadget plays.

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>You get him on the fly suite, jet suits, the

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 1>run after catch. Not only is he fast, he is

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>sturdy and strong, and once he breaks tackles and gets

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 1>out in the open field, he's gone on the wheel route,

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>double moves. He's gotten not only a second year, but

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 1>a third year down the field. Dinner and Daniel Jeremiah

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 1>there part of the NFL Network draft coverage talking about

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Rondale Moore the wide receiver out of Perdue, and you

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 1>can hear it. But when you see him in the

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 1>squat rack Ron Wolfley as a guy who measures five

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 1>to seven, a buck eighty one and he's squatting six

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 1>hundred pounds as a freshman at Perdue. Your reaction to

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>that here on the big Red Ray presented by santan

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Ford and Hiller, I've never seen anything like it. I

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>could you not five to seven to have that kind

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 1>of strength in your legs, to be put together like that,

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>It's truly incredible to behold. This is a guy that

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I think hopefully is going to have the kind of

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 1>impact that Cliff Kingsbury and the Arizona Cardinal's hope that

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 1>he's going to have on this offense. Get over the top, Paul.

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 1>If he can run by somebody, get over the top,

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>it is going to open up so much for DeAndre Hopkins,

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 1>so much for aj Green At Christian Kirk So we

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:32.960
<v Speaker 1>can tell you that he squat a six hundred pounds

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 1>as a freshman, and he ran an unofficial four two

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>nine at his pro day, the vertical of forty two

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 1>and a half. But maybe the best thing I heard

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 1>about Rondelmore was in the conversation in the Cardinals draft

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>room before the selection in round two. This is Cardinals

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>All Access and you get a lot of this coming

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 1>up on the next edition of Cardinal's Flight Plan. But

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>here Steve Kim and Cliff Kingsbury talking about Rondel Moore.

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Rondelmore good wide out kick returner, vertical jumped like forty

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>two and a half inches. He's a dog. But yeah,

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna come in and think he's the man, be

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:10.240
<v Speaker 1>a pro and the balls in his hands. He is special,

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 1>special median impact returnability. He'll be ready to all and well,

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:16.360
<v Speaker 1>if I know, we used that word a lot, the

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:19.840
<v Speaker 1>whole dog thing, but yeah, to be that size, you

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>better be a dog to excel. I had a conversation.

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I talked about this in Cardinals Underground, the podcast Just

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>a Quick Recap was a few years ago, and there

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 1>was sort of an unknown trying to make the Cardinals

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>as an undrafted slot receiver and he was looking good

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 1>early and one of the veterans told me, no, no,

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:39.879
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have that dog in him. Julian Edelman will

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 1>tear your face off. Wes Welker will attack you until

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing left. And so if you're telling me rondel

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 1>Moore has that mentality, now I'm that much more of

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>a believer. Yeah. No, that's a great observation, Ballie. Here's

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:56.800
<v Speaker 1>what really gets me about rondel Moore. He was the

0:34:57.000 --> 0:35:01.839
<v Speaker 1>first true freshman consensus All a American in Big Ten history. Paul.

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 1>I think about that for a minute now. Charles Woodson's

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 1>the first first true freshman Paul to have a consensus

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 1>All American in the Big Ten tag put on him

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<v Speaker 1>right there. This says three things to me about this kid.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got uncommon athletic ability. He's he's highly motivated, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's not afraid. Paul, that is so important right there.

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 1>He could care less about your reputation or the logo

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 1>on your helmet. He's gonna line up and compete with

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<v Speaker 1>everything he's got and the only thing your reputation or

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<v Speaker 1>logo might produce. And Rondale Moore is even more resolved.

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<v Speaker 1>I you know again, I can't wait to see this

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<v Speaker 1>kid play. But Paul, you know how I feel about

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 1>rookies overall. You gotta prove it to me. You've gotta

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 1>prove it to me. I've seen it over and over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again. And Rondale Moore has got to prove it.

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's the best thing that the Arizona Cardinals have

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>going form is this kid wants to prove it well.

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:05.359
<v Speaker 1>The GM Steve Kin was asked to break down, give

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<v Speaker 1>us scatter report, if you will, on Rondel Mora to Purdue.

0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 1>When you see his body type, you see a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who's all the shorter end, but really thick and muscled up,

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<v Speaker 1>really explosive, jumped forty two and a half inches, ran

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 1>four two nine six sixty three cone. Again, those numbers

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:23.319
<v Speaker 1>are off the charts very similar measurable wise, height, weight

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 1>and speed. And you look at those numbers. Guy like

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Tyreek Hill, a sort of in that form is explosive

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 1>enough to play outside, play, inside, reverses, screens, all the

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<v Speaker 1>different things. You want to get the ball in his

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 1>hands and let him create on the perimeter. Two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>it was when the Cardinals went to Kansas City, the

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 1>way the Cardinals defense reacted when Tyreek Hill went in motion. Okay,

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 1>So you can be such a distraction to a defense

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:52.360
<v Speaker 1>even when the ball's nod in your hands, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>that a you know, illusion of complexity if you have

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:56.800
<v Speaker 1>that sort of guy. So I think that sort of

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 1>player is very important to a Cliff Kingsbury. But Wolf

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<v Speaker 1>hits zoom out in the y receiver room for a minute. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think about that room right now? And

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<v Speaker 1>how Cliff Kingsbury is looking at it? And he got

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<v Speaker 1>some questions about using ten personnel more than ever perhaps, yeah,

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 1>exactly right now. I don't know if that's going to

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 1>be the case, Polly, I really don't. We'll have a

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:17.279
<v Speaker 1>front row seed to it, but I think it's it's

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:20.359
<v Speaker 1>hard to become more physical. I keep thinking of Steve

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:23.240
<v Speaker 1>Kim and what Steve Kim said, we have two goals

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<v Speaker 1>this offseason. It's to get more physical and bring leadership

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<v Speaker 1>into the locker room. Remember when he said that, Polly,

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:33.319
<v Speaker 1>there's two goals right there. It's hard to get more

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:37.800
<v Speaker 1>physical in ten personnel. It just is. Now. Listen, you've

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 1>got to have wide receivers in that room. There's no

0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 1>doubt a bond. I think the Arizona Cardinals. When you

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 1>talk about d hop you're talking about the best wide

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:47.439
<v Speaker 1>receiver in the league, if not one of the top

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 1>three wide receivers in the league. He's in that conversation.

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Let's put it that way. When you talk about DeAndre

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Hopkins and then you've got a J. Green that you're

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<v Speaker 1>bringing in on a one year contract, I think he's

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:01.279
<v Speaker 1>highly motivated. Would you say that AJ Green has done

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:04.239
<v Speaker 1>some things in the National Football League? Of course? And

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:07.280
<v Speaker 1>now you've got Christian Kirk is your number three receiver

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:09.879
<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna bring Rondell More in. Is this guy

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:13.799
<v Speaker 1>that is going to be explosive? Hey, listen, it's gonna

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>be a very very competitive room. But never forget to me.

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>This team, this offense, in particular, when you talk about

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 1>their improvement, you've got to start with being more physical,

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:28.319
<v Speaker 1>and that typically means running the ball, and that's where

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 1>big shots down the field happen. I mean, think of

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:35.400
<v Speaker 1>ba think of Bruce Harrians. This is his offense. His

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 1>entire philosophy is running the ball, banging it and then

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:41.239
<v Speaker 1>using play action to throw it down the field. And

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that's where Rondel Moore becomes even more dangerous,

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 1>not only a lateral threat, but vertically over the top.

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:51.840
<v Speaker 1>You get play action going and you start hurting some

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 1>teams running the ball in between the tackles. Man, I'll

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:57.840
<v Speaker 1>tell you what, throwing the ball over the top becomes

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot easier. Look, we know this and you cited it.

0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Two of the big things in the offseason leadership get

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 1>more physical. But Wolf, especially towards the end of last season.

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 1>We do the Coaches Show every week and Cliff Kingsbury

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:13.799
<v Speaker 1>would cite the need to improve the intermediate passing game.

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:17.960
<v Speaker 1>That underneath passing game. How often do they see the

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 1>two high safeties. Well, you tell me, you're the guy

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:23.879
<v Speaker 1>you know watches the film and the x's and oh's.

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:26.799
<v Speaker 1>But if you can start hitting a Rondale more underneath,

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 1>or a big body guy like an AJ Green. To me,

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 1>that's a remedy, that's an adjustment to the adjustment that

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 1>defense is seemingly made to the Cardinals offense last year. Yeah,

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:38.360
<v Speaker 1>there's no doubt about it, Polly. But it is going

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:41.280
<v Speaker 1>to be really interesting to see how they use Rondale

0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 1>More in particular, and I cannot wait to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know, Henry Ruggs the third last year was

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 1>the first wide receiver taken off the board. Why do

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:56.880
<v Speaker 1>you think that was, Polly? Speed? Speed, baby, the raider,

0:39:56.920 --> 0:40:00.759
<v Speaker 1>speed over the top. It kills even when he doesn't

0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:04.760
<v Speaker 1>have the ball, he's punching holes in a secondary holes

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 1>that are filled by talented receivers. And that's the Rondelle

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:11.919
<v Speaker 1>more impact to me, Even when he doesn't have the ball,

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna impact secondaries and coverages that look. Once upon

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:19.760
<v Speaker 1>a time, the Arizona Cardinals drafted an Kuon Boldman round two. Okay,

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:22.800
<v Speaker 1>but there have been other guys recently with measurables of

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:25.479
<v Speaker 1>the receiver position who didn't pan out, like a Chad

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Williams or a Keem Butler. We'll see about Annie Isabella.

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 1>So it all comes down to can you play a reminder?

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<v Speaker 1>Season four, Episode one of Cardinal's Flight Plan is available now,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Cardinals YouTube channel back with more on The

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford in Gilbert, Hello, Steve,

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 1>how's it going, Steve? We're gonna kill everyone. We're gonna

0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 1>kill everyone. We're gonna get a super bull ring so

0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:04.840
<v Speaker 1>big on our finger, Joe Dog wouldn't be able to

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:08.200
<v Speaker 1>jump over. I love it, man, I love it. We'll good.

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 1>We'll keep that attitude. Zaven, Michael did well. Congratulations, were

0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 1>so excited to make you a Cardinal. Enjoy the moment

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 1>with your finger money, Okay, enjoy it. All right, we're

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna put your name in now, you're welcome. Enjoy it.

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 1>That was emotional. Holy cow. All access coverage from the

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals draft room last Thursday night, the first round selection

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:40.880
<v Speaker 1>of Zaven Collins out of Tulsa, from a very small

0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 1>town in Oklahoma. You've got the full the full rundown

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 1>of that on episode two of Cardinals Flight Plan a

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 1>little bit later this month, The Wolf I might regret

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:51.800
<v Speaker 1>this year as we wrap up this edition at the

0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford and Gilbert, where

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 1>were you on draft night? And what was your phone

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 1>call all about? Yeah, that's good, bully right there. First

0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 1>of all, a couple of things I got to get

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 1>out here as safety tips on. My agent told me

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:07.879
<v Speaker 1>that I'd go somewhere from the fourth round as high

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 1>as the fourth round to the sixth round going into

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 1>this draft. And before the draft, I got a call

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:16.800
<v Speaker 1>from Bill Parcels. This is before the draft, Paul. I

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:20.319
<v Speaker 1>got a call from Bill Parcels that said, hey, listen, run,

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 1>if you don't get drafted, we'd like to go ahead

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 1>and sign you as an undrafted free agent. Can you

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:29.279
<v Speaker 1>imagine why? I mean, would you say Bill Parcells had

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:32.279
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of cred in nineteen eighty five. That's

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 1>a tad deflating. Yes. I was like, okay, Bill, And

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking to myself, my agents tell me four to

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:42.640
<v Speaker 1>six somewhere in there, and you're calling me before the

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 1>draft saying, hey, listen, you know, if you don't get drafted,

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 1>we'd love to sign you. Man. That blew my mind

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 1>right there. And you got to remember as well, ESPN

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:53.759
<v Speaker 1>only carried the draft into the third round, So sure enough,

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:56.800
<v Speaker 1>the ESPN gets out of it and the third round

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:59.400
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sitting there. I get a phone call and

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:04.160
<v Speaker 1>somebody says, oh, it's Larry Wilson, and I said, give

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:06.680
<v Speaker 1>me the phone and I picked. I said, who is

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:10.320
<v Speaker 1>this Ron, This is Larry Wilson with the Saint Louis Cardinals.

0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 1>We're getting ready to draft you. This is not Larry Wilson,

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:16.240
<v Speaker 1>just being quiet thought it was one of my buddies

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:19.800
<v Speaker 1>actually ripping on me. Right. He goes, no, No, this

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:23.279
<v Speaker 1>is Larry and we're getting ready to actually draft you.

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Here I had one hundred and four overall, and I

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 1>was so embarrassed, Paul. But you know what I was

0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 1>moving that day as well, I believe it or not.

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:35.839
<v Speaker 1>Great planning. Does that surprise you, Paul, that I had

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:38.800
<v Speaker 1>different things planned on the day I was going to

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:43.319
<v Speaker 1>be drafted. It was just incredible. The entire experience. I'll

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 1>never forget it, and especially it's special to me because

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 1>of Wilson making that call, no doubt, no doubt, the

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:52.839
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famer rest in piece Larry Wilson or Jim

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 1>on the Hunter relays how Roy Green, which is what

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:57.719
<v Speaker 1>five six years earlier before you came into the league,

0:43:57.760 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 1>said he didn't even have a phone in his storm

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 1>does that Henderson State in Arkansas. So he gave the

0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals and all the other teams a pay phone number

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:09.839
<v Speaker 1>located on the basketball players floor and told the guys

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:11.840
<v Speaker 1>on the basketball team, Hey, if that phone rings, and

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.400
<v Speaker 1>asked for me, come find me. Hey, PAULI when my

0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:18.279
<v Speaker 1>brother got drafted by the Pittsburgh Steelers in the fifth round, Mike,

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:20.719
<v Speaker 1>my sister was giving us all the thumbs down on

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>the phone and hung it up and said, it's some

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:26.960
<v Speaker 1>guy named Chuck Noll. She was disappointed it wasn't the bills.

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you believe that? Oh no, that's an all timer. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well if you waited to the very end of the show,

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:36.000
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