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Speaker 1: R and B Money.

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Speaker 2: We are.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Ja Valachi. We are the authority on.

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Speaker 3: All things R and B.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, My name is Tank and this ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, this is the R and B Money Podcast,

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Speaker 1: the authority on all things R and B. Here we

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Speaker 1: tell the truth about R and B. We get to

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the bullshit. Okay, all right, but first

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Speaker 1: of all, let me make an introduction. This man, it's him.

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Speaker 1: And we don't call a lot of hims hymns because

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Speaker 1: we hymns. But this man been himmen and not them

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Speaker 1: on a high level. Yeah, for a long time. So

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Speaker 1: we wanna take our hat off to him. Mister James.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Hello and.

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Speaker 1: Brother, brother James found Le Roy Man.

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Speaker 4: This is great to be here with you guys. Thank you. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the name of the podcast feels appropriate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do what's crazy. First of all, congratulations on your

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Speaker 1: on your jewelry.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: As we spoke earlier, we like to wear our kids

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Speaker 1: tuition that that's what that's what we we like to

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Speaker 1: wear our kid just in case we will turn it in. James,

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Speaker 1: first of all, thank you brother for being here with us.

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Speaker 4: Man, thanks for having me. I love it.

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Speaker 1: Shouting it up. We're gonna we're gonna dive into the

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Speaker 1: history that is James faunt le Roy, the mind, the

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Speaker 1: mind that is James fount le Roy. I just want

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Speaker 1: to say, push your girl. I just want to. I

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Speaker 1: just want to. I just want to say that, and

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Speaker 1: then we can go back and start digging into history.

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Speaker 1: But that's.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they won, they won one in things.

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Speaker 6: Listen, brother, Yeah, that was that was golden edge of

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Speaker 6: my songwriting experience. And that was even I haven't writing

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Speaker 6: with Justin for years and years before that. Justin Timberlay,

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Speaker 6: the great and honorable he we have been writing for

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Speaker 6: years before we matter of fact, we wrote Mirrors six years.

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Speaker 4: Before we started the album.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, like literally we have been writing for so

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Speaker 6: long and so you know, that was like one of

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Speaker 6: the best experiences in my life period in writing or

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Speaker 6: doing anything like working on the album.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like it. Yeah, y'all had a good time.

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Speaker 6: It was crazy, man. Niggas hungry too. I had just

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Speaker 6: recently spent all my money right before that happened.

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Speaker 1: Because start Spey. Yeah you know what, I spent the money. Okay, anyway,

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Speaker 1: James let's go back to the beginning, right, give me,

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Speaker 1: give me the moment where either you felt it or

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Speaker 1: somebody pointed out to you, this kid right here is special,

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Speaker 1: he's got some Well.

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Speaker 4: I knew I was different my whole life, like probably

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Speaker 4: all of us.

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Speaker 6: You know, you could just just observing and see that

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Speaker 6: you're different. And then as far as music is concerned,

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Speaker 6: I didn't grow up singing or in church. I thought

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Speaker 6: niggas who sang was soft, and I didn't want to

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Speaker 6: feel or be perceived that way.

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Speaker 4: I was doing a lot of fighting at that time

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Speaker 4: and other things like that.

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Speaker 6: And so when I started singing and like seeing the

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Speaker 6: reception and like kind of I mean, honestly, it's a

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Speaker 6: story I tell all the time because people be like,

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Speaker 6: what got you starting in business?

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Speaker 4: And really what it was? It was just a really

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Speaker 4: long story. But long story short.

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Speaker 6: Somebody asked me to be in like a Black History

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Speaker 6: Month program. I did one line, you know, slid out

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Speaker 6: then slid back into the lineup. And when I came out,

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Speaker 6: all these everybody just jumped up and started screaming. All

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Speaker 6: these girls ran up to me in high school in

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Speaker 6: the ninth grade, and so when the girls ran up

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Speaker 6: to me after, I was like, oh I do this now,

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Speaker 6: this is this is what I was like, Oh, now

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Speaker 6: that's that's what I do. You asked me, Then I

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Speaker 6: things in my life, Like I I didn't know songwriting

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Speaker 6: asked me, many things in my life people something you know,

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Speaker 6: right now on that gig. He was like, do you

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Speaker 6: write songs? I was like, hell yeah, what you're talking about?

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Speaker 4: I had never written anything in my life.

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Speaker 6: Matter of fact, why he said that was because I

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Speaker 6: wrote like a parody song about what was going on

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Speaker 6: with us, and I sang to everybody like as a joke,

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Speaker 6: and he was like, ha ha, that's very funny. But

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Speaker 6: when you say us the fifteen hundred gigs fifty fifteen.

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Speaker 4: It was the first fifteen hundred gig.

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Speaker 6: It was a showcase for this act who had like

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Speaker 4: I ended up getting fired from that first gig. Of

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Speaker 4: course you do for showing off during rehearsals. But I

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Speaker 6: But I couldn't do well when I met Lawrence even

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Speaker 6: like because I rapped, because you know, like I told

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Speaker 6: you before singing, I didn't identify I was singing growing up.

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Speaker 4: So I was rapping. I was killing everybody in my raps.

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Speaker 6: Eminem had just came out at that time, so I

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Speaker 4: Really like vulgar and you know, violent.

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Speaker 6: And I was battle rapping every chance I could for money,

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Speaker 4: I was really serious about battle rapping.

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Speaker 6: And when I met Lawrence, I was I had just

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Speaker 6: finished murdering somebody in the parking lot of the youth

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Speaker 6: church at West Angeles. Okay, murdered him too, like rumor

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Speaker 4: And then Lorence was like don't you sing too? And

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Speaker 4: that's when I was like hell yeah.

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Speaker 6: And so after I started, you know, writing songs, which

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Speaker 6: Beat CD, which I always laughed because beat CD CDs

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Speaker 6: they had and I was just.

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Speaker 4: Like, how did that even happen? Like did you borrow

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Speaker 4: this for someone?

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Speaker 6: Because one day they called me after I had written

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Speaker 4: And I was like, I don't have another one. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: They was like, we need to be CD back because

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Speaker 4: we going to this meeting. So I drove up there

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Speaker 6: Right before I got there, I was arguing on the phone,

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Speaker 4: And I just sat on my car and was like

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Speaker 4: They was like what you're gonna do?

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Speaker 6: And my cousin had a beauty salon like two three

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Speaker 6: beautys line called my mom or something, and it was like, nah, man,

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Speaker 6: We went to Canam for them to meet Teddy Riley,

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Speaker 6: and then I wrote my third song ever with Teddy Riley,

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Speaker 6: and I learned so much from just that ex This

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Speaker 6: is before I met Tyrese even by the way, I

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Speaker 6: learned so much from that experience. Actually, that song I

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Speaker 6: wrote with Teddy Riley ended up being the first thing

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Speaker 6: I got paid money for because Snoop Dogg bought it

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Speaker 6: and put it on this song compilation album. It was

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Speaker 6: the song that that damn in one of the two

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Speaker 6: know it actually happened.

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Speaker 4: In that story of the heard it was.

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Speaker 6: Remember it was remember Me and Storm where the names

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Speaker 6: of the songs and you know the rest of his history.

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Speaker 1: Wow, so can Am, which which we know very well.

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Speaker 5: We had a room in Canada.

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Speaker 4: That's that's a lot of history in Canon.

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Speaker 1: So is this right here, writing this song with Teddy

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Speaker 1: Riley and you getting in that car, Is that where

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Speaker 1: fifteen hundred begins?

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Speaker 6: No, fifteen hundred was already they were a Snoop Dogg's

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Speaker 6: band at that time, so they were Snoop Dogg's band

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Speaker 6: for years, and they were Lupe Fiasco's band, and now

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Speaker 6: they're literally Lorence's parents with Beyonce or j Z are.

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Speaker 4: Both on know.

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Speaker 1: Of course somebody.

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Speaker 6: Out there right now. So the band has grown exponentially.

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Speaker 6: But at that time, you know.

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Speaker 5: You just hit us with the t I work.

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Speaker 4: I had to. Yeah, see how I got my hands like.

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Speaker 7: I got your hands, King, When you start putting your

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Speaker 7: fingers again, I see what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the band is still thriving.

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Speaker 6: And now it's like multiple bands and keep on the

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Speaker 4: So the band is still really going strong.

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Speaker 1: So give me how you get to the second floor

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Speaker 1: with Tyre that the adminst the real story, man, this

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Speaker 6: We Okay, So I'm gonna I'm gonna try to condense

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Speaker 6: it because it's somewhat long, but this is what happened,

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Speaker 6: and this is why, especially when you're starting out, you

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Speaker 6: But it was it was like there was a famous

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Speaker 6: like megachurch pastor who had a young girlfriend that I

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Speaker 6: don't remember her name, but I guarantee you I know

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Speaker 6: this woman.

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Speaker 4: And so Lawrence was doing this pastor of favor and

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Speaker 4: having us work with this woman.

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Speaker 1: She was an artist.

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Speaker 6: She was an artist, and so we did a bunch

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Speaker 6: of songs with her. And I don't even remember what

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Speaker 4: It's blurring in my mind.

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Speaker 6: But I did some songs with her, and then that

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Speaker 6: was it, because you know, you meet so many artists

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Speaker 4: So I wasn't even really thinking about it. But then.

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Speaker 6: Which I got the story from her, and I think

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Speaker 6: Steve Russell mightave it. This happened in Steve Russell's room

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Speaker 6: on the third floor in this story, and so they

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Speaker 6: was writing a song. She told me this sh They

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Speaker 4: Oh, this is on the.

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Speaker 6: Third floor, and Tyreese was like trying to get this

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Speaker 6: And he was like, alright, well, if I can't get

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Speaker 6: And I s I don't remember this lady's name, but

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Speaker 6: cause I said, I didn't grow up in church. But

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Speaker 1: So were there any records that came out of the

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Speaker 4: Which that's when I hear people's version of the story.

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Speaker 6: and I think one was from Tyreese. I forgot who

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Speaker 4: And so like the first one was like.

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Speaker 6: Hey man, I got this crazy opportunity for you. I

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Speaker 6: I got this opportunity for you. The next one, Man,

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Speaker 4: Then Glenn called me and said, hey, man, I fell asleep.

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Speaker 6: And they heard your songs and they want.

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Speaker 4: You to go up there. So that's how it happened.

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Speaker 6: So it wasn't even nobody around me when I found

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Speaker 4: Anyways, that's how that happened.

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Speaker 6: So then there was like this moment after that where

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Speaker 2: The third floor, moving on up to the east side.

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Speaker 2: So when you get to the third floor, nowhere. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: which is since you're so mysterious, it's another cloudy story.

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Speaker 2: I've heard many versions of that, cloudy stories because you

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Speaker 1: Don't say don't correct nobody.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: You guys are absolute legends. And so this thank you brother,

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Speaker 6: that's what brought me out.

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Speaker 4: You feel me.

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Speaker 1: And I remember my brother called me. My brother, Bob

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Speaker 5: He's like, nick I love it's this kid, this kid

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Speaker 8: He is cold.

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Speaker 1: He cold cold, like he just kept saying he coked.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, who are you talking about. He's like, man,

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Speaker 2: you just got to hear his songs. Because at this

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Speaker 2: the second time. I was gone to Yeah, I left

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Speaker 2: for the second I just left. No, you hadn't left yet.

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Speaker 4: You don't know he left. He was gone. I was

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Speaker 2: So I'm working on my album though. I'm working on

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Speaker 5: Bob is like, you gotta let this young boy play

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Speaker 1: He is everything right.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, cool, I'm gonna come up there

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Speaker 2: because I'm like, I'm gonna come back and do records

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Speaker 2: I hear the notorious Storm.

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Speaker 1: I want Storm. I got a bad record. Everybody wants

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Speaker 1: my goddamn Storm.

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Speaker 2: I want the rat right, And James is like, which

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Speaker 2: I respected about him because young writers, you know, they

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Speaker 2: get excited. You know how this shit goes. Young writers

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Speaker 2: get excited. They're like, whoever wanted and got the check?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you, like, he like, bro, this is

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Speaker 1: And I'm not even thinking from no other than mindset.

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Speaker 2: I'm stuck on a record which artists gets stuck on,

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Speaker 2: only have hearing everything else. He's playing for me, And

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Speaker 2: I think James started to like it because but I did.

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Speaker 2: I was just like, I just want the record. I

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Speaker 2: I said, yeah, I listen, but I won't Storm.

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Speaker 1: It's like I want the record.

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Speaker 5: He's like, James James said, this one is perfect for you.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, I know James thinks, but I want this record.

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Speaker 2: And that was my initial meeting with James and just

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Speaker 2: the jump, bro, No, from the jump, And I know

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Speaker 5: I didn't think so because I love the record.

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Speaker 6: I love Bob so much that when when his brother

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Speaker 4: I love this nigga automatically.

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Speaker 6: So you know, and then you turn out to be

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Speaker 4: What do you want to know about the song.

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Speaker 1: Inception?

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Speaker 6: Okay, so we just had Steve here too. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 6: what was he talking about? Because he came in halfway

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Speaker 1: Exactly know he said that. He said that, he said,

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Speaker 1: he said, and he was angry. He was like, I

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Speaker 6: He wrote, like, you know, in the biggest parts of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Heid, he said, And when he framed where

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Speaker 1: he got that from. It was it was crazy. You know,

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Speaker 1: Steve's a doll up. You know what I'm saying. In

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Speaker 1: doing that, you know what I'm saying. But it started

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Speaker 6: All right, So this is how I haven't from my.

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Speaker 4: Came out.

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Speaker 6: I don't think anybody knows this that I've heard say

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Speaker 6: But I came out of the bathroom and I heard

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Speaker 6: this And he was like, I'm working on theme music

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Speaker 6: for this conference for the families of unsolved murders. And

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Speaker 6: it was a woman standing there, and I was like, okay,

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Speaker 6: that's what I said. I was like, oh wow, okay,

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Speaker 6: well have a good time.

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Speaker 4: And I was coming back.

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Speaker 6: I was like, all right, well, I hope everything pans

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Speaker 6: was like, also, what's this and Bluetooth was like this

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Speaker 6: get up.

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Speaker 1: Here that. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: He asked Bluetooth and the woman to lead coolitely, and

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Speaker 6: then he was like, all right, we gotta write this

445
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 6: song for Whitney Houston because you know, I think maybe

446
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 6: Babyface or I forgot exactly.

447
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 4: What the connection was, but.

448
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 6: She was supposed to be coming into work or something

449
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 6: like that. And I was like, all right, cool. So

450
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 6: I sat there and started listening to it. I wrote

451
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 6: the verse. I like, was like, what do you think

452
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 6: of this? He was like, no, it's not gonna work.

453
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 6: Let's take it to the A room. We went into

454
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 6: the A room and set everything up. He got on

455
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 6: his computer to like start answering emails, and he was like,

456
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 6: all right, let's rewrite that that verse.

457
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 4: He don't even know this, and I was like, okay, cool.

458
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,479
Speaker 6: So I sat there and I like did like this

459
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 6: on the keyboard and then I was like you ready,

460
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 6: and I sang him.

461
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:12,479
Speaker 4: The exact same verse from the back room Veda, and

462
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 4: he was like, I love it. That's great, and so

463
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 4: I went in there something.

464
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: Yes, that's what it is, right, because it's like sometimes

465
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: you can hear something and sometimes you can't. Yeah, you

466
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, and I've never seen it

467
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: happen that closer. Yeah, yeah, less It's taken weeks for me,

468
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: but that happened.

469
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 5: He's like, after these emails, this nigga won't remember.

470
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 6: That's exactly what I thought. It worked, And so then

471
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 6: I recorded the verse. You know, I've just come up

472
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 6: a lot in different interviews over the years. The concept

473
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 6: I was thinking was that it was people on two

474
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 6: different I didn't say that to it then, because I

475
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 6: have found out already by that time that you didn't

476
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,479
Speaker 6: need to I didn't need to explain all that, just

477
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 6: this is what I think we should do. And so

478
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 6: I had that part. And then me and Harvey worked

479
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 6: together because especially like the tag Harvey wrote, he wrote

480
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 6: a lot of the hook actually, and then so me

481
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 6: and him wrote that hook together. I wrote the verses,

482
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 6: and then that was the song. It wasn't even space

483
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 6: for a B section. And then that's when Steve came

484
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 6: in and was like, uh uh hold.

485
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: On, yeah, I need to get on.

486
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 4: He said, you know what y'all need and he literally

487
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 4: put his hands in it and.

488
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 6: I was like, soh And then he wrote.

489
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 4: The majority of the lyrics.

490
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 6: I think maybe I wrote the last line is B

491
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 6: section or something like that, but he.

492
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 4: Wrote the words in the melody, maybe even for the

493
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 4: whole thing. I don't remember. It was a long time ago,

494
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 4: but that's how that song came to be.

495
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 6: And then that, like I said, it was four Whitney

496
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 6: Houston initially, and then that didn't happen, so it was

497
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 6: my song for like five minutes, which I didn't I

498
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 6: was like, I didn't even want this to be my song,

499
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 6: but it was my song for like five minutes. And

500
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 6: then that was also around the time we were working on

501
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 6: Chris Brown on his second album.

502
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 8: Which another classic record ended up doing like what What's that?

503
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: What's that? What's that?

504
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 8: Record?

505
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: That was?

506
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 4: Oh well, I wrote like five or six songs on there.

507
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 6: Take You Down was the classic, which he talked about

508
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 6: Steve in concept. Steve came up with that he heard

509
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 6: his kids saying take you Down around the house and

510
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 6: we had this whole discussion about Chris Brown being old.

511
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 4: Enough to talk about fuck you.

512
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 6: Like that week and so that I ended up writing

513
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 6: a majority of that song, but like you know, it

514
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 6: was me, Steve Harvey, Chris Brown. It was actually hilarious day.

515
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 6: The power went out like three times. Niggas was mad

516
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 6: because the wouldn't let him in the room because everybody

517
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 6: was like hearing that it was sounding like some money yeah,

518
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 6: and wanted to come inside the room.

519
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 4: And we got enough.

520
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got enough. We've all been there.

521
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 6: So because of that and Jordan Spark, they had a

522
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 6: relationship with American Idols, so he worked with all the

523
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 6: people and Jordan Sparks I think was sig signed the

524
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 6: same label as Chris Brown, and we had just did

525
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 6: all these songs with him, so that all that conversation

526
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 6: worked together. They were planning on giving a song to

527
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 6: Jordan Sparks and then someone somewhere was like, let's add

528
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 6: Chris Brown to the song, and boom, that was my

529
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 6: first hit. This dude told me you're gonna make a

530
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 6: million dollars, just random man.

531
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 4: I saw somewhere. I was a record executive. He was like,

532
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 4: oh yeah, that's.

533
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 6: A million dollars, and I was like, nigga, shut up

534
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 6: my face until I got that murder money.

535
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: That dude was on the s got that money, What

536
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: did you buy?

537
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 6: I about everything, man, about Bro, because I think I'm

538
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 6: so smart too, And I always tell people that being

539
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 6: an intellectual person is different from having the wisdom and

540
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 6: experience of dealing with money coming from a low socio

541
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 6: economic background. So as smart as I was, I bought everything.

542
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 6: Like I had two pairs of shoes at a time

543
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 6: growing up, and I've always been in the clothes and

544
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 6: fly ship my whole life.

545
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 4: Like my mom used to be like, why why are

546
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 4: you like this? Why do you want all of this?

547
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 6: You ain't never had ship because I used to be

548
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 6: having like two hundred dollars shirts and ship when I

549
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 6: was broke.

550
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 4: Because I was like, this is this is me, this

551
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 4: is who I am. I don't know what to tell you.

552
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 4: And so I bought everything. Man.

553
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 6: I bought hundreds and hundreds of pairs of shoes, about

554
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 6: so many watches, about a mansion.

555
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: Off the first chock, Yes, my numbers are adding.

556
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 4: I bought the cars knocking.

557
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: What you sign up for?

558
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 4: The Oh my god, Bro got the first everything we.

559
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 5: Knew you had the bucket that the battery would was

560
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 5: the first.

561
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 4: Car I was. I bought.

562
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 6: The X six before it came out. Yeah, got that

563
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 6: didn't have serious X series. It wasn't even and then

564
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 6: I got a three series.

565
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just bought them two cars.

566
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 5: Money is what you're saying.

567
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 6: The rest of my life to even post the story,

568
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 6: I continue, I just had a Rose Roy's like, that's

569
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 6: a BMW. So I've been BMW's this whole time. If

570
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 6: y'all want to throw a little something to a fellow

571
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 6: black man working, yeah, yes, I spent it all man,

572
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 6: And I just remember being broke in my mansion and.

573
00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: How long I wan to take you to go?

574
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,959
Speaker 6: It took some time cause I got, you know, like

575
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 6: a nice amount of money because I you know what

576
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 6: I'm saying. I had figured I really was in the

577
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 6: studying too, so I had learned why they gave you

578
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 6: how much money and who gave it to you. So

579
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 6: I got multiple millions of dollars at the time, I

580
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 6: was in a million dollar range of checks. But I

581
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 6: learned guys at home. I learned about pro advances and

582
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 6: you know, like how they calculate posting checks and you know,

583
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 6: just how to get more money, which I also learned

584
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 6: through my manager at the time, because when I got

585
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 6: that the first big check, I didn't have a manager,

586
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 6: and the second one, which was right after, so those

587
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 6: were both spent together. But Jay Brown was one of

588
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 6: my first managers, so he got me. You know, I

589
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 6: think he it was one check that I was gonna

590
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 6: get anyway, you know what I'm saying. And then but

591
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 6: the first actual check I got was cause he was

592
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 6: bold enough to go in there and asked for that

593
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 6: much money.

594
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 4: And boy, it's just record world record spending, like just

595
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 4: gone records. You know.

596
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 6: It was everything I could think of. It was like

597
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 6: thousand dollars, chairs and ship in my living room. I

598
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 6: had all the bear bricks, I had swords.

599
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 4: It was just everything. It was like blank check.

600
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: I can see I can see James living like in

601
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: the very museum type.

602
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 6: That's how I'm living now, y'all. If y'all wondering how

603
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 6: afford Oh yeah, I learned a lot from that first time.

604
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 6: I learned so much, dude, because, like you know, like

605
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 6: before I went broke, like on the way to broke,

606
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 6: I switched business managers, thinking that that was gonna be

607
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 6: the answer.

608
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 4: Boy, they let.

609
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 6: They because business management, and this is obviously so many

610
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 6: things around the music business and including the music business,

611
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 6: are predatory, but business managers, the managers, just the vast

612
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 6: majority of the people we come in contact with our predators,

613
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 6: not only because there's an easy target for them to

614
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 6: take advantage of, but also because they know it's gonna be.

615
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 4: A new you coming in every week.

616
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, literally every day it's a new nigga like you.

617
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 6: So they could care less. So those guys really like,

618
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 6: you know, because I really was asking him to. I

619
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 6: was like, I cannot afford this, can I? I tried

620
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 6: my best.

621
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, I had one of those conversations

622
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: really early on. I think I maybe nineteen or twenty,

623
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: after my first big check. Once again, shout out to

624
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: Justin Timberlake. That's my that's my nigga for life. I

625
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: get this check in sync, do this big publishing deal.

626
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: I get a new business manager. I never had a

627
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: business manager. And this man tells me I call him.

628
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 8: I'm like, I just seen this new card.

629
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 5: It just came out. I don't even I don't I

630
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 5: saw it somewhere the crazy I think it was Troy

631
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 5: Carter's he had the only one.

632
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 8: It was the Bentley GT.

633
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: The off the press.

634
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: I needed it, and he said to me, he said,

635
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: you can afford it, but if you buy it, I quit.

636
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: Oh wow, because I can't help. You're not going to

637
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: listen to me.

638
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 4: Yeah. Now my business manager was like it too.

639
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 5: She was like, you know, I like that card.

640
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: Come pick me up with a couple of those. They

641
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: was trying to tell me how to get jury and ship.

642
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

643
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 6: So that's all the business managers I ever had. Still,

644
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 6: you know, so and so again while I was broke,

645
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 6: I still was like ship. You know what I'm saying,

646
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 6: There's none of this, None of this is making me

647
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 6: better or worse, you know what I mean. So my

648
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 6: goal has always been and still is to just develop

649
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 6: myself as a human being and as a songwriter and

650
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 6: just get better till I'm till I'm done, till the

651
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 6: end of this journey.

652
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: Bro That's a very important thought that none of this

653
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: is making me better or worse because we get caught

654
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 2: up in that. Everybody, especially in this business or in

655
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: any business where you know, where the money makes you

656
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 2: feel the accomplishment.

657
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 6: That's because people treat you like that too. You know

658
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, people treat us. Which that's another thing

659
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 6: I try to tell people all the time, and I

660
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 6: forget what you said that made me think about it.

661
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 6: But you know, I have like, let's say, like five

662
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 6: hundred unique releases or something like that.

663
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 4: I got a lot, a lot of songs.

664
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 6: Because I had the historically ridiculous MDRC that's a minimum

665
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 6: Delivery Release commitment.

666
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have like thirty songs or something. Some thirty

667
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 4: was like it was like four. Look it was like four.

668
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 6: It was three, then four, then another four and then ten,

669
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 6: then another ten and I finished it. And that's why

670
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 6: I got so many songs because I had to to

671
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 6: get out of that deal, and so throughout that process,

672
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 6: I want to give a big shout out to Mark

673
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 6: Pitts because he's the only an R that's ever bought

674
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 6: one of my songs like that I ever played a

675
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 6: song for and they was like, I'm gonna use this song.

676
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 6: So of all them five hundred songs, four hundred and

677
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 6: ninety nine of them songs were not shopped, not played

678
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 6: in a label, no management, It was all. You know,

679
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 6: there's a sizeable amount that I did at the underdogs

680
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 6: like probably twenty or something like that, and then the

681
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 6: rest was all through the artists like Rihanna walked it

682
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 6: to me one day, Beyonce had Tata called me. That's

683
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 6: how I met Tata, who I loved too. That was

684
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 6: like family, just all of these all. Man, I was

685
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 6: one of the best and rs on the earth too.

686
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 4: By the way, I just want to say that too.

687
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 4: He's got a really good year.

688
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 6: But m yeah, man, like it really has always been

689
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 6: about just developing myself and just really like how can.

690
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 4: I be better?

691
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 5: M hmm. I gotta ask you about.

692
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 8: What the hell were you thinking in the beginning of Click.

693
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 5: Bro.

694
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: That is the coldest.

695
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 5: Shout out to hip boy. What the hell would the

696
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 5: way you come in on that record?

697
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 1: Yeah?

698
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 4: I was one at that time.

699
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 6: That was in Hawaii, in the ancient times of Kanye's

700
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 6: remaining blackness and uh.

701
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 4: And uh.

702
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 6: That was when we were working in Hawaii and I

703
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 6: was in a room. I actually wrote that intro to

704
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 6: the audio of the beat, so it wasn't a capella

705
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 6: when I did it.

706
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 4: Okay, and it was nothing on it.

707
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 6: There was no raps, there was nothing, so I didn't

708
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 6: know what they were going to talk about or anything.

709
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 4: And I just, you know, all my songs the same thing.

710
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 6: Like I feel like, you know, there's there's a select

711
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 6: few that are great people that care about the things

712
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 6: I care about in music.

713
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 4: But like I just always.

714
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 6: Felt like I'm on my own trajectory of like how

715
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 6: I'm growing and what I'm trying to accomplish. So I'm

716
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 6: comparing myself to the ship. I think it's great, right,

717
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So that's why I'm like,

718
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying on there is talking about

719
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 6: just like the plight of the black man and.

720
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: What are the dollar? What did the dollar?

721
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 4: You dying? Yeah, you know what I mean.

722
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 6: And that's like you know, from Marvin Gaye, Curtis Mayfield,

723
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 6: Stevie Wonder. I'm like, you know, this is how you do.

724
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 6: This is what we're doing. We're expressing an idea in

725
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 6: the most fly attractive way we can sing it. And

726
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 6: so that's all I was thinking, was like, you know,

727
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 6: I didn't know Kanye at the time, so I was

728
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 6: like super excited to be there and I just was

729
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,959
Speaker 6: like I'm gonna do my best. I got something to say,

730
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 6: and this, this is this is the best I could do.

731
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 6: So I was just going ham on everything they gave me.

732
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 6: And then it was his idea to make an a cappella.

733
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 6: He cut the the beat and put that ship in

734
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 6: the intro like that.

735
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he shined you out.

736
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a flower to give.

737
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 4: L a Oh man, I love that song, dude. I

738
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 4: love Tai.

739
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 6: And Kendry everybody in the song. Shout out to dmo.

740
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: Man, I said, what is going on?

741
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 4: I didn't write that.

742
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 6: I wrote my verse on it, but you are on

743
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 6: it the hook, I think, which a lot of things

744
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 6: over time have kind of started to float in the

745
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 6: direction of how I sound, which I love to death,

746
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 6: by the way, Yes, and so a lot of things

747
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 6: sound like me, and a lot I hear I hear

748
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 6: from people on a regular basis. You know, people are

749
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 6: still to this day everybody, which I'm like, guys, it's

750
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 6: fucking everybody.

751
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 4: So you don't have to tell me every time so much.

752
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, anymore, we copy your thing.

753
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 6: I like the fact that because I studied you so

754
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 6: for you to even say that is really too much

755
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 6: for me to process right now. But what am I

756
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 6: even talking about? Let's just do my whole ship off

757
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 6: and so I am a very l a person.

758
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 4: I love Los Angeles.

759
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 6: I grew up as a hood, as a human being

760
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 6: can grow, Okay, the roads that grew from concrete ghetto,

761
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 6: That's how I grew up. And so like having the

762
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 6: opportunity to and I know him tied forever. I knew

763
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 6: time when he was Tyan Corey, when he was a

764
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 6: neo soul artist, and so I was just so I've

765
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 6: always been like a fan of his talent, but I

766
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 6: was so proud and excited with his career, you know,

767
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 6: started taking the shape that it is today.

768
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 4: And so if he.

769
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 6: Asked me to do anything, I'm gonna be like, hell, yeah,

770
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 6: what's up. But then that was amazing on top of that.

771
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 6: And so again, like it's just certain circumstances and music

772
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 6: that brings something different out of you. And I think

773
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 6: that song, like like I said, d Mile and all

774
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 6: these different factors that just really made that song the

775
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 6: perfect place for me to be myself. And like talk

776
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 6: about the city I grew up in. There's gang banging

777
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 6: references in the verse, you know, like it's just really

778
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 6: you know, like that was a chance to really like

779
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 6: put myself into what I was doing because usually when

780
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 6: I'm writing this for someone else, somebody else, and so

781
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 6: I love that song. Man, that's that's one of my

782
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 6: favorite songs I worked on are Yeah, and then they

783
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 6: put Brandy on it.

784
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's that's not cool, that's crazy. That's gonna

785
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: do all that. That's the Chaco absolutely. So now you

786
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: you jumped to it because I was gonna yeah, yeah,

787
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: because I listen. If I don't bring it up, my

788
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: daughter is gonna be mad. My baby girl gonna be mad.

789
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: No more.

790
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 4: Oh man, what I like talking about changing your life?

791
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: What I like?

792
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 4: Man?

793
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: Twenty four K album?

794
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 4: Like how what do you want to know?

795
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 7: No?

796
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

797
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: Man, yeah because the Stereotypes Oh yeah, our guys, I

798
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 2: remember I said it before. I remember they're the first

799
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 2: person to ever tell me about Bruno.

800
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

801
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 5: At the time, Tank and I had a room at

802
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 5: the studio. What was the studio?

803
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: It was track record there used to be track record,

804
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: and then what's the name bought it. Yeah, and then Paramount,

805
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: one of those guys.

806
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 2: We had a room up there. Tank and I and

807
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 2: Oak and Pop and Stereotypes.

808
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: Had like the treehouse the Treehouse room amazing, And I

809
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: used to just watch Bruno walk in the parking lot,

810
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: just changed smoke cigarettes.

811
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,479
Speaker 2: And then in one day Ray and Ray and John

812
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: was like, listen, that guy is incredible.

813
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 4: Man, bruh, he's the same.

814
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: So hearing what you guys created with that Bruno Mars album,

815
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 2: man and and I said it, that's what I like.

816
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 2: And vasace on the floor and you know what I mean,

817
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 2: it was it's and it's there are l A references.

818
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

819
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if I wrote all the l A references, no,

820
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: because I always I just figured that I like that.

821
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 4: I really like people assumed I did everything good.

822
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 6: That's my That's one of my favorite things about being me,

823
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 6: is like thank you.

824
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't write that ship.

825
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 5: So you didn't write uh to get known to give

826
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 5: the color red the blues?

827
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: No, because that's.

828
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 4: A very mistaken. Phil wrote that.

829
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 6: Okay, Phil is hilarious and he's a pure genius. Just

830
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 6: both of them are just two hilarious geniuses. And they've

831
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 6: been working together the entire Bruno you know, like a

832
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 6: cent and I met I met Phil before I even

833
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 6: thought about being a writer.

834
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 4: So I met him when I was before they kicked

835
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 4: me out of college.

836
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 6: I met Phil because I was each like a I

837
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 6: was like a guest teacher in this charter school music

838
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 6: program and Phil came to talk to the students and

839
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 6: he was so funny. I just never got that, nigga.

840
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 6: And then you know, over a decade later, I ended

841
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 6: up getting pulled in. But that happened because I met

842
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 6: Bruno day one. Also fifteen hundred used to work in

843
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 6: Steve Lindsay's studio on Olympic and something in Hollywood, and.

844
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 4: That's when I met Bruno. Man.

845
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 6: I was re recording that song I wrote with Teddy Riley,

846
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 6: and he like busting the studio and I was like

847
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 6: what He still plays that shit from time to time.

848
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 6: But as far as the album, like, all I can

849
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 6: really just do is just be so thankful because you know,

850
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 6: you guys will know this very well, but songwriters and producers,

851
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 6: your lifespan is typically one to three years. Usually you

852
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 6: get one thing and that's it for you. Oh yeah,

853
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 6: an engineer really gonna have noticed this, But like you

854
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 6: get one to three years.

855
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 4: Of heat of a run.

856
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 6: Yeah right, I've been doing this for fifteen years now, professionally, what's.

857
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 4: You gonna do?

858
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: One of my many talents come show you many talents off.

859
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 4: Man, we ain't had no class started like this.

860
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, making this motherfucker.

861
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 5: Showing out.

862
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, top five, your top five?

863
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: Five?

864
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, your top five ll be.

865
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 5: All this be so.

866
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 3: Jas he's got a top five, top five, he's got

867
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: a he it's time.

868
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 4: Oh there you go, top five? Why yes, hallelu halleluj.

869
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, James finn leroy mm hmm. Your top five.

870
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 4: That was your class right there, if you was looking.

871
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: For top tive R and B singers.

872
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 4: All right, I'm prepared.

873
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 6: Let's see if I can remember this without using my list,

874
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 6: my memory, especially my short term memory.

875
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 4: It's rifles. No, don't let me open up.

876
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: No, I don't got it.

877
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 4: That's great, I got this right here on.

878
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, wrote that to write.

879
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 8: That, you know, good work.

880
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 5: You beat me to the boom.

881
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 4: Like, okay. Now Top five R and B songs.

882
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: Singers, singers. We're gonna start with the singers.

883
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 4: Singers, singers, singers.

884
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 6: I'm gonna just rip the band aid off. It's Stevie Wondering, Prince, Joe, Brandy,

885
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 6: and Lutha.

886
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: Come on.

887
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 4: Top five.

888
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: Lu both Brandy and Joe give you that. They're from

889
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: the same, They're from the same house there, cut from

890
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: that same Daryl cole Cloth, they're in that space, and

891
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: then you l on there Luther probably the most angelic

892
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: vocal of all times. Not gonna argue, the most straight

893
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: ahead angelic vocal, I'm not gonna argue of all times.

894
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: When they were doing a comparison of of Charlie Wilson

895
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 1: and and and Luther, and it's a tough comparison, right,

896
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: because you know, if you're just talking about, you know,

897
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: acrobatics and movements. Of course, Charlie Charlie Wilson can do

898
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: anything that Luther Vandros can do. Luther probably can't do

899
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: anything that Charlie can do. But there's a sound that

900
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: Luther has that is just that has not been duplicated.

901
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: The closest person to him ever And I hate to

902
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: give him this credit because we was at odds at times.

903
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: But I was so mad because he was singing the

904
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: Girls the Star screaming. I be like, he ain't got

905
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: no muscles, jahim all right.

906
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 4: I thought he was gonna say me, but that's cool.

907
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding. I knew it.

908
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he just walked on the stage and grab

909
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: fingertips and just sing the song, and I'd be so

910
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: upset because I'd be jumping around on speakers, doing backflips

911
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: and everything. He had. That's a great top five okay,

912
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: top five R and B song.

913
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 4: All right, let me go back into my list here.

914
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 4: Who all right? Shout out again? He said, Rod Temperton.

915
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 4: I met Rob Temperton before he died. He was really hilarious. Man,

916
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 4: it was a great experience.

917
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 6: He wrote my favorite R and B song ever, which

918
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 6: is Always in Forever by heat Wave, and that was

919
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 6: his first single he wrote, also heat He was all along.

920
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 6: That was the majority of the conversation because I don't

921
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 6: think he was expect for me to pull that out here,

922
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 6: and so we had a long conversation. Always and Forever

923
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 6: but Always in Forever by heat Wave. Make Me a

924
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 6: Believer by Luther Vangels. Yeah, you're gonna have to dig

925
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 6: into the crate. But boy, that girl by Stevie, Wondering

926
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 6: like This by Brandy from the full.

927
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: Moon album, Amazing Album.

928
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 4: Priceless by Joe Have you heard that song? Yep?

929
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, of course those are your top five.

930
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 4: You can hear it in my song, yes, yes, mm hmm. Okay,

931
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 4: all right, yeah, all right, so here we go.

932
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: We're not done with you, brother. We'd like to do

933
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: what we call R and B voultron, where you're gonna

934
00:50:55,719 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 1: put together your R and B artists. You're a perfect

935
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: R and B artist, where you're going to get the

936
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: vocal from the performance style, from the styling from and

937
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: the passion of that artist. What artists are you getting

938
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: the vocals?

939
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 4: I didn't write this down I got I'm gonna take

940
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 4: man hmmm mm hmm. And another m mm hm hmm.

941
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 8: Mario amazing voice, Mario singing.

942
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: I say, why is no Mario? Mario? Mario Mario from Baltimore.

943
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, who's what's next?

944
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: You should write him a song?

945
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 4: I would love to where you're at.

946
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that has to happen.

947
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 5: That has to happen.

948
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: It has to be a Mario record written by James follow.

949
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: He's still a song away and he's had big records,

950
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: but he needs a right now song from Final Roy.

951
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: I mean whole album whole? Are you just committed to

952
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: the whole album Mario? Yeah? We don't want no percentage,

953
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: you know.

954
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, unless you want to give me.

955
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: So Yeah, that's nice he's nasty on record performance style.

956
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 4: Performance wise, I'm gonna say the.

957
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: Future sex Justin mm.

958
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that person.

959
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: I think he was youthful. I was like, yeah, it's

960
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: just crazy. I saw that my first show and that's

961
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: all that Dallas.

962
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 5: Yes, when you came back.

963
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I need we're gonna have to we gotta

964
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 2: tell these promoters we're not going to give it to you.

965
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 5: Justin Olds all that ship we need all Justin.

966
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: Let's call are you using using your l ed wall

967
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: You're fifty ft.

968
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 6: L like yeah, man in the backyard right now, right

969
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 6: kids playing with that ship right now.

970
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 4: I can't take it from him and give it to you.

971
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: Styling of the artists, come on, man, you know you

972
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: the follower Yeah, Chris Brown mm hmm.

973
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 5: Yes, I've been mentioned it has multiple times.

974
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 4: That is a vultron, you know. But I mean, like,

975
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 4: since I'm just bulling things for people, Chris Brown fly, Yeah,

976
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 4: you fly, Yeah, no.

977
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: Doubt about it. Racks racks of flyness. Yeah, effortless too.

978
00:53:59,360 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: He just puts it on.

979
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, why should check out style Man's Thundercat. I don't

980
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 6: know if y'all looking into what he got on, but.

981
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 4: He's got the stylish nigga back there to check out.

982
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 1: Look at the style.

983
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can't wear anything that, niggas.

984
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But okay, nigga, the passion

985
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: of the artists, the heart of the artists.

986
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 5: M M.

987
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: Who mean it?

988
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 4: Who means it? Tank?

989
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: Wow?

990
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 4: Yes? Who has more sincere energy on this planet? Who

991
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 4: is more committed? You can't find.

992
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 6: We won't even know because the people who got that

993
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 6: can't don't sound like Tank. So we can't even here

994
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 6: through that ship us. But I will put the power

995
00:54:58,719 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 6: of Tank inside of this machine.

996
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 4: You better get the funk out the way, my brother. Yeah, No,

997
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 4: I'm serious.

998
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, not mad at that? Wow, not mad at that. Yeah,

999
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: but we're not gonna let you get out of here without.

1000
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 4: What is this?

1001
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no nickas. I ain't saying them now.

1002
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no name.

1003
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: Where you was? Who?

1004
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 3: What you mean?

1005
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:38,439
Speaker 1: Don't say? I ain't saying no.

1006
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta pay offering after that?

1007
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the offers coming.

1008
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred people. It's ten people with one hundred

1009
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 4: dollars in here right now. Oh man, I can feel it.

1010
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 4: I can feel it.

1011
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: I used to walk right out. Yeah, hey man, so

1012
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: listen you.

1013
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 4: Like it's nine now, because you're getting there.

1014
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 5: I've got yeah, I go nigga walked out. I ain't

1015
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 5: saying no names.

1016
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 8: Okay, the whole dang.

1017
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 5: You tell us a story funny and fucked up? Are

1018
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 5: funny a fucked up? The only rule is you can't

1019
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 5: say no names.

1020
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 4: Okay.

1021
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 5: Amongst your journeys, James follow Roy journeys.

1022
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 6: If y'all knew the things I have seen all these

1023
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 6: people that were talking about except Bno, Bruno keeps his

1024
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 6: closed environment.

1025
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 4: Shout out to Bruno's closed environment. And justin two. That's it.

1026
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 2: Though, right now, this is James follow fifteen hundred or nothing,

1027
00:56:59,400 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 2: one of the.

1028
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: Rate this songwriters. In my opinion of all time I

1029
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: have I assure that opinion. From here, from.

1030
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,479
Speaker 2: Now, from the beginning to the end of this whole

1031
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: thing that we got.

1032
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 5: James is a guy him. I ain't saying no names.

1033
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 6: It's so many stories. I can't even it's difficult to

1034
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 6: choose one. But and I'm like, can I even tell

1035
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 6: this story without the people involved knowing? But when you

1036
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 6: hear the story, you'll realize how much I care about

1037
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 6: if they know we're not. It's very little in case

1038
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 6: you don't pick it up by the end of the story.

1039
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 4: So one time now, mind you.

1040
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 6: Even though I was on the first fifteen hundred gig,

1041
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 6: but I was also the first person. Even though I

1042
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 6: was I was not playing anything anyway. I was singing

1043
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 6: background when I was doing gigs. So it was very

1044
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 6: easy for me to be like, I'm not doing that anymore.

1045
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 6: I'm writing songs now. But I did a lot of gain.

1046
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 6: I was like a professional background singer for like at

1047
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 6: least two years, two three years. I have done a

1048
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 6: lot of background gigs and I can do it. I

1049
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 6: would still do it if I had to. And this

1050
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 6: is one of those situations because part of the arrangement

1051
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 6: it was a really big opportunity for the band, first

1052
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 6: time doing this type of show.

1053
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 4: And part of the arrangement was, but we need James

1054
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 4: to also be involved, and I'm like, I don't, but

1055
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 4: I don't blame nothing. Why.

1056
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 6: It was like that's what we said, and I said,

1057
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 6: you know what, I'm there, I'm gonna do it, and

1058
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 6: so on this gig. You know, the band after we

1059
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 6: went through all these different like qualifying interviews because this

1060
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 6: was just a bigger opportunity then you know, we had

1061
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 6: had up to this point. And also we were very young,

1062
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 6: and usually the bands that do these kinds of things

1063
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 6: are like, you know, forty fifty years seasoned players, and

1064
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 6: so there was just a lot of talk about what's

1065
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 6: going on, so much so that they actually put a

1066
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 6: legendary musician like in the band, you know what I mean,

1067
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 6: like to basically run the band, you know, for the

1068
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 6: most part, because most of the old guys also they

1069
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 6: they're reading sheet music, which most of the young guys

1070
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 6: don't do that, and you know, so that was one

1071
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 6: of the points of like, well, can they read sheet music?

1072
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 6: It was like no, And so anyway, so they put

1073
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 6: this legendary man in the group. And the legendary man

1074
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 6: he he was used to legendary shit, and he had

1075
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 6: a very specific configuration. He liked that We tried our

1076
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 6: best to fit into.

1077
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 3: Well.

1078
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 6: One of the things that did not fit into his

1079
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 6: structure where the background singers that we chose. Now, I

1080
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 6: didn't choose to sing background because at this point, this

1081
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 6: is when I was back rich, so this is post broke.

1082
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 4: Now the money too, I'm like, I'm like y'all niggas

1083
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 4: want me to do what? Okay? Okay, yeah, So I went.

1084
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 6: To do the gig anyway, But this legendary man, he

1085
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 6: had a really big issue with not being able to

1086
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:18,439
Speaker 6: have his background singers involved. I found out afterwards after

1087
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 6: we're all like, hey, what you guys gonna do after

1088
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 6: this great show?

1089
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 4: Because the show went really well. One of them was like, oh,

1090
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,479
Speaker 4: this is an older woman. By the way.

1091
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 6: One of them was like, oh, I'm going to the

1092
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 6: orgy and pulled out her Facebook orgy group and was

1093
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 6: like see.

1094
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 5: And I was like, okay, a Facebook orgy.

1095
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Facebook orgy group.

1096
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 6: That's what they're doing on Facebook yard.

1097
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 4: So I don't know what you want to do. That

1098
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 4: information you want to go with down you to stay

1099
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 4: away or now you know where to go.

1100
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 6: So I'm like, okay, I get it why he wanted

1101
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 6: to have his old freaks up there singing backgrounds, but

1102
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 6: I didn't understand why he was so adamant. You know, y'all,

1103
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 6: y'all done some of these gigs. You came in here,

1104
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 6: well you've been in the front, but you know you

1105
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,959
Speaker 6: can't even hear the background half the time. A huge,

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01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 6: huge gig and so I'm like, why is this nigga

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01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 6: so so pressed? He ended up firing I think, if

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01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 6: not all the background singers, most of the background singer. Yeah,

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01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 6: when I went off on him, she was like, this incredible,

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01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 6: incredible singer, much better than all of us, honestly, including

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01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 6: the old freaks, and she shouldn't have been fired. When

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01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 6: he fired her ass she went off on him, he

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01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 6: was like, I mean, we still laugh about the shit

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01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 6: to this day, because he was like, I mean, you know,

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01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 6: in show business you just never know. After he got

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01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 6: cussed out real bass.

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01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 4: So we still tell people you just never know and

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01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 4: show business baby, to this day. And so we go,

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01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 4: we at the gig. Here we go.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, all right, I hope everybody's happy because here

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01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 6: I am doing this stupid as shit I don't want

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01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 6: to do. Although I was so happy to be like

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01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 6: interact with the people on the gig and the artists

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01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 6: and even dealing with the older guys that was like like,

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01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 6: I think I won't listen.

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01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 4: Their names out of the legends, legends that I was really.

1127
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 6: Happy to interact with, and even this guy until this moment.

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01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 6: And so while were doing the show, he keeps looking

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01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 6: back at me. Now during the get we're getting ready

1130
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 6: for the thing, you know, we're doing the rehearsal for today,

1131
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 6: and he keeps looking at.

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01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 4: Me, and I'm looking back, like is this nigga looking

1133
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 4: at me?

1134
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 6: Because he keeps looking at me, and I'm like, I

1135
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 6: know I'm not singing bad because I'm not even singing.

1136
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 4: I'm letting the old freaks handle everything.

1137
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 6: I'm just doing. I'm mouthing the song. I think I

1138
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 6: sang on maybe two songs out of fifteen or something

1139
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 6: because I like those songs I was adding parts of

1140
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 6: didn't belong the whole night. Yeah, and so, but this

1141
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 6: wasn't that. I'm just sitting there not singing, acting like

1142
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 6: I'm singing. He keeps looking back at me and making

1143
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 6: all these faces and hand gestures and shit. So I

1144
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 6: just got up out of my chair and I went

1145
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 6: down there and I put my hand out to shake

1146
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 6: his hand, and he took my hand and I pulled

1147
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 6: that nigga so hard that his chest hit my hand

1148
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 6: and you can hear the air come out. It was like, oh,

1149
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 6: and then I also followed that up. I took the

1150
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 6: air out and put it back because I hit the

1151
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 6: nigga real hard on the back.

1152
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 9: At the same time, I got kids, I had to

1153
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 9: birth this nigga, right, so I was like, I was like,

1154
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 9: hey man, we already had this conversation.

1155
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 4: You know why I'm here.

1156
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 6: What we're gonna do is gonna get through this shit

1157
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 6: and we're not gonna do nothing weird. We're not doing

1158
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 6: no more weird shit because you don't want to find

1159
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 6: out what else can happen if you keep looking back

1160
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 6: here at me like this, and that Nigga's eyes got

1161
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 6: as big as his whole face. The whole face turned

1162
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 6: into two eyeballs. This nigga was just like because he's

1163
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 6: such a legend, so I know he wouldn't expect him

1164
01:03:58,920 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 6: and to say that.

1165
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what, that.

1166
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 6: Nigga didn't look back one more time for the He

1167
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 6: may never have looked back again.

1168
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 4: That nigga started moving forward in life. He took the rear.

1169
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: View mirrors and never talked about the past.

1170
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 4: And never looks back again. We got through that.

1171
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 6: Show real smooth, and you know that that's that was

1172
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 6: one of my stories.

1173
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 5: Nigga. That's that crazy.

1174
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: That's a great story.

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01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 4: Thank you God.

1176
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 5: Shout out to the old freaks.

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01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 4: Want to, she said aloud too, and she had the

1178
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 4: group up already. She didn't go to it's FBR.

1179
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 1: Already like a badge because he liked to get physical

1180
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: after the gig.

1181
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Speaker 5: Man, Oh that's great, that's great, that's great.

1182
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, lift him up off the ground just a

1183
01:04:59,520 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 4: little bit.

1184
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 2: Just you know, if any of you rappers your records

1185
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 2: everywhere it came from, you got a nick.

1186
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. James. First of all, thank you, brother man.

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01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 4: Thank you guys for having men imagine.

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01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were glad we're able to have these conversations

1189
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: and share that information and share your greatness, you know,

1190
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: continue to celebrate your greatness.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate thank you for coming outside. Bro, you don't

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01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: do this fair. Body is one hundred R and B

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Speaker 4: Changed neither, So don't be trying to like, you know,

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Speaker 4: relax and.

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01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: Doctor Tank, doctor Valentine, Valentine coming down to the school.

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Speaker 1: we are.

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Speaker 4: Don't be in the front row taking notes.

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Speaker 1: That is a that is a done deal. That's happening.

1202
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:00,240
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