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Speaker 1: Welcome to stuff you should know from how Stuff Works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm British Josh.

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Speaker 1: There's American Chuck, and there's neutral Swizzerland Jerry, which, by

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Speaker 1: the way, now we're saying Swizzerland Switzerland. I just decided

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Speaker 1: because it's close to the end of the year and

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Speaker 1: I'm about to die of exhaustion. I love it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: On the Friendly Fire Movie podcast, Ben Harrison, you know Ben,

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Speaker 1: he says, uh, Nazis, Yeah, the Nazis. That's like kind

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Speaker 1: of like a throwback. It's like the greatest generation way

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Speaker 1: of saying yeah. And I know he does it as

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Speaker 1: an affectation, but now I got it from him, and

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Speaker 1: he got it from god knows where his great grandpa Nazi. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a pretty great way to because there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of occasion to say the word Nazi a lot. Hell,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned this, uh, And why did you say you

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Speaker 1: were British? Because I say geodesic and you say geodesic

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Speaker 1: and we just looked it up, which I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: like the first time in years the lady said geodesic

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Speaker 1: and I was like, yes, or in America geodesic and

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Speaker 1: I said, we're both right, but then she didn't say

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Speaker 1: though it was British, it could be like whatever South African.

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Speaker 1: I guess, well africannor is not English. Well, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. We're so far off course already.

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Speaker 1: Jerry's just got Roman coming through her nose. She thought

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Speaker 1: that was so funny. Um, thanks for the last, Jerry. Well,

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Speaker 1: we are talking about geodesic desik. Maybe we should just

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Speaker 1: say that every time, saying both. I'm sure people would

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Speaker 1: love that. I'm gonna say geodesic because that's what I've

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Speaker 1: always said. Okay, great, I'm gonna say geodesic. That's fine. Um,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about domes, geodesic domes and um. If you

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Speaker 1: have ever seen a weird contraption of a circular house,

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Speaker 1: a ball house, you might call it a sphere house.

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Speaker 1: You've seen a geodesic, don't. If you've ever been to

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Speaker 1: Epcot um i went when he was a kid, you've

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Speaker 1: seen a geodesic don't. They're all over the place. Do

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Speaker 1: you all right? Do you like these as like people's

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Speaker 1: houses in a neighborhood or wherever? No? I don't either,

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Speaker 1: But I don't. I mean, I'm not gonna yuck. Anybody's yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm so. I mean, when reading and researching,

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Speaker 1: like they're cool and there are a lot of great advantages,

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Speaker 1: then that will go over. But I just don't care

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Speaker 1: for them. Aesthetically. I don't either. And actually, if you

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Speaker 1: if you um read a quote from Buckminster Fuller, the

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Speaker 1: guy who actually didn't invent you deseic domes, we'll get

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Speaker 1: in all that. Anyway. He said, one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: they never took off is because they're weird looking. They

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Speaker 1: just are and and well, I'm not gonna say that.

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Speaker 1: I really tell me later, Okay, Yeah, I just don't

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Speaker 1: care for him. You know. It's like I'm a crap usman,

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Speaker 1: California craftsman, bungalow type guy, which is about the opposite

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Speaker 1: of a geodesic that it's pretty angular for sure, And

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Speaker 1: the geodesic dome is angular. Everybody put your laptops away,

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Speaker 1: geometry nerds, but it's not rectangular, and a craftsman is

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Speaker 1: definitely rectangular. Like you can even make a case the

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Speaker 1: roof is not a triangle. It's a rectangle on its side.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I just made that case. How's it going? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: pretty good? I also, and although I probably will never

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Speaker 1: live in one, I do love a modern, uh like

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Speaker 1: it's not really like ultimately where I would want to

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Speaker 1: live for the rest of my life. Well, okay, so

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Speaker 1: I don't want to feel like I'm like in Finland

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Speaker 1: in the winter or something like that. That's not I'm

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Speaker 1: talking mid century American actually built for a family, and

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Speaker 1: like the mid fifties early sixties. I love it. The

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Speaker 1: wall that doesn't even really need to be there. You

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Speaker 1: can see right through it because it's like wood spindles,

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Speaker 1: and that's what I like, not ultra motern, mid century

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Speaker 1: But you still you don't think you could live in

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Speaker 1: one of those, because I traft we had to get

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Speaker 1: all new stuff. Like if we started over, like if

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Speaker 1: our if our god for a bit of our house

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Speaker 1: like that, But like the stuff that we have doesn't fit,

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Speaker 1: Like you know understood, Grandma's antique bar doesn't really go

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Speaker 1: was a bit of a booze hound. Huh. Well, they

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Speaker 1: And then we turned it to a bar and it

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Speaker 1: talking again about geodesic domes. And there was a period

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Speaker 1: these geodesic domes. And it's not like they were living

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Speaker 1: it was a dome. Yeah. There was one near where

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Speaker 1: Like that had some impact on who you are today.

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Speaker 1: But how minute to how small, but seeing that every

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Speaker 1: They had a lot of hippie credit. Yeah, they were

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Speaker 1: going to it and looking back, they were probably super

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Speaker 1: cool people. Probably they were wearing berkin stocks way before

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Speaker 1: anybody else is wearing berkin stocks. So let's talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about the first geodesic dome, a little geodesic history. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there is a very famous optics company called zeissure Um

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Speaker 1: But his whole jam was like, well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: and we'll get into all those but first and foremost,

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Speaker 1: They thought since they wanted to enclose their courtyard, the

425
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: central courtyard and rotunda that they'd built, um, that it

426
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: was gonna have to be a traditional dome with buttresses

427
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: and supports and like heavy walls and all. That The

428
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: problem was because the court was so far across. I

429
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: think it was more than thirty meters ninety ft across. Um.

430
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: Anything that they built would probably collapse the walls of

431
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: this very sturdy rotunda building. So they had a problem.

432
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: And when they called buck Mr Fuller, I don't know

433
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: how who got in touch with who. Um, it was

434
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: pretty brazen for him to say, what what you said?

435
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: He said that he can get this done below cost,

436
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: in time, it's gonna be super light. And he proved

437
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: the world wrong, his doubters wrong, at least when he

438
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: built the first geodesic dome over and it was pretty awesome. Also,

439
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: we didn't mention he was a freshman, a freshman college dropout. Um,

440
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: so he's self taught and he just came along and

441
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 1: showed the world of engineering basically a brand new type

442
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: of structure and incredibly elegantly efficient type of structure. He

443
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: just showed the world it could be done. Yeah, some

444
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: people are just born with like a certain kind of brain.

445
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: That's why he deserves his own episode for sure. So

446
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: the forward, uh dumb was was great for a while

447
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: until nine two when it was leaking and they said, hey,

448
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: this thing is leaking, we need to do some repair work.

449
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: So they were doing that and they were waterproofing and

450
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: weatherproofing the panels and they were using a waterproof see

451
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: through transparent waterproof sealer. But to make it easier to spray,

452
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: they heated it up, which makes sense, but unfortunately those

453
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 1: vapors ignited from a propane heater. This thing caught on fire,

454
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: and I get the idea that it was like the

455
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: whole thing was done in like an hour. Yeah, because

456
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: they sealed a lot of it with the waterproofing, the

457
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: highly flammable waterproofing stuff. So when a little bit called

458
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: it was vapors caught, the whole dome caught fire. And

459
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: it was made of like aluminum in plastic, so it

460
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: just went up like a match. And they were decorating

461
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: for the Christmas fantasy exhibit below in the courtyard. All

462
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: that stuff caught on fire. It burned, the whole roof

463
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: tunded down. Imagine there's nothing more flammable than Christmas decorations

464
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: in the early night a chance. Yeah, it was really sad.

465
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: Everyone got out of there, which is good, but by

466
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: the time the fire department got there, it was too late.

467
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: It was toast fifty ft flames like I can't imagine

468
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: what that scene looked like, and it burned the whole

469
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: building down. Like this was actually a tourist attraction. And

470
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: do you imagine going to Dearborn, Michigan to see the Yes,

471
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: that's what people did. I think it's seen like eighteen

472
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: million visitors in like it's twenty or thirty years of operation.

473
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: And this this waterproofing fixed burned the whole thing down

474
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: at Christmas time. So this I love how this article

475
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: kind of brushes over it says no matter buck Mr

476
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: Fuller's geodesic dome had shown that it could be done. Yeah,

477
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: it bears a little more digging in that for sure,

478
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: but it is true like he had shown the world

479
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 1: there's this thing, and we should start making them because

480
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: they are efficient, cheap, affordable and highly transportable. And apparently

481
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: next the next people to call was the military because

482
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: they wanted to start using them as like antarctic basis

483
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: or to cover radar dishes, that kind of thing. Yeah,

484
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: he very famously too in nineteen sixty seven, at now

485
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: was this the World's Fair? There's this a different thing.

486
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: They just didn't call it World's fair, right. The Universal

487
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: Exposition in Montreal UH in sixty seven very famously had

488
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: a two ft tall dome uh and he was he

489
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: was really trying to push the limits of what you

490
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: could do. Like he he dreamed of enclosing part of

491
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: Manhattan and a dome and ing, we could give you

492
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: clean air and climate control and it'll pay for itself

493
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: over time because you won't have to use snowplows and

494
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: all these other like things that cost money. It seems ghastly,

495
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: almost like a burnse In type of of idea. Well

496
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: it would, I mean there would definitely be a certain

497
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: class of people that lived in that thing. Yeah, but

498
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: it's done. If he'd be like, we'll do it overall

499
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: of you know queens, right, Well, yeah, it was lower.

500
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 1: It was twenty second to sixty two I think from

501
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: river to river in Manhattan. Wow, it was. It was

502
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: gonna be huge. And he did say it could pay

503
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: for itself just from snow removal, not having to snow removal,

504
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: but imagine not having precipitation ever. It's just it's it's wrong,

505
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: there's something wrong with that. But it really captures the

506
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: can do engineering spirit of of mid century America for sure. Yeah.

507
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you can do a cool experiment with like

508
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: a biosphere type of thing, but you don't want Manhattan

509
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: covered by a dome, you know, all the all the smells,

510
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: maybe t Peeka or something like that. And that's one

511
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: of the problems, is all the smells apparently, like did

512
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: they just fill up that dome? There's nothing to stop it, right, Yeah,

513
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: the sewer gas accumulating at the top and eventually exploding. Yeah,

514
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: no good the ghostbusters running around shooting off pro tom

515
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: packs inside that thing. No good man, it's been a

516
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: while since a g B ref. Should we take a break,

517
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: all right, we'll be right back, chuck. Alright, So the

518
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: sixties and seventies come along. He's been doing a sing

519
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: in the fifties, and this is when the uh, the

520
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: counterculture and the anti mainstream sort of vibe was hitting,

521
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: and so it was sort of prime sort of primed

522
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: for these things to come into fashion. And they did,

523
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: just for regular old houses. Yeah, they didn't sweep the nation, no,

524
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: but you know, there were enough people looking for ways

525
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: to very blatantly thumb their nose that they established look

526
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: at my round house basically, yeah, and and and again,

527
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: like it really does. It does provide a lot of

528
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: um benefits that other ones don't. Right, So, like because

529
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: it's a it's a sphere, and it's basically one big room. Well, yes,

530
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: but you can build rooms inside of you can't UM.

531
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: But the heat in the um, the air distribution is

532
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: really efficient, so it's very cheap to heat and cool.

533
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: I think that the average number that people are reported

534
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: was about a thirty savings in um energy cost. That

535
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: sounds totally made up, it does, but I saw as

536
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: high as fifty, and it seems like the world said, no,

537
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: we'll go a third UM. And so you've got heating

538
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: and cooling efficiencies, like you were saying, because it's a round,

539
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: it's not trying to stop wind like cool wind, hot

540
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: wind when it runs into your house. If it's a

541
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: rectangular house craftsman, mid century modern, who cares it runs

542
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: into it and it's going to transfer heat or cold

543
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: into your house? Yeah, in my case right through my windows,

544
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: and okay, yeah, it's a great, great example. The thing

545
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: is is you don't want that heat or that cool

546
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: in there usually, so you're gonna have to spend a

547
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: lot of money to artificially pump it out right through

548
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: a c um with with a geodesic dome. The the

549
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: wind kind of just moves around it. It's super aerodynamic,

550
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: so it's not just running into this flat surface and

551
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: trying to go through. It's just like, yeah, excuse me,

552
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: I'll just go around. Yeah, and that's why they're great

553
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: in Antarctica. Um, they can withstand whatever kind of weather

554
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: they throw they Antarctica A and I have seen some

555
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: of these at the beach. Um. Again, they're not like

556
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: the coolest looking beach house, but you see him, you know,

557
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: you'll see like quaint old beach house, cape cod geodesic

558
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: dome and then like mcmanchin and I imagine they do

559
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: very well at the beach. Yeah, because after a hurricane,

560
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: if a hurricane is bad enough, you see empty lot,

561
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: empty lot, dome, empty lot, and apparently that's that's it's anecdotal,

562
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: but that's the been reported that geodesec domes can make

563
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: it through substantial hurricanes when the rest of the houses

564
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: around it did not. Yeah, it makes sense. Um. Some

565
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: of the disadvantages is like we're joking about the smell,

566
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: but it's really true smell and sound. If you've just

567
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: got a big globe that you're inside, are really going

568
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: to move around. Uh, there's not a ton of privacy,

569
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: even though you can build out sort of like living

570
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: in aloft, you know, you can build out rooms, but

571
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: if your rooms don't have a ceiling, although I guess

572
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: you could do that too, you could, but then you're like, well,

573
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, like why I'm I even in a exactly

574
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: uh light as well. Um, that's a big one. Yeah,

575
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, like the little light on your router that's

576
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: like really bright at night. Imagine that just being distributed

577
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: throughout your entire house. Yeah. No, good, No, that's not

578
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: a good one. Plus, I mean, if you look at

579
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: any piece of furniture that's ever been created in the

580
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: history of humanity, it's all meant for rectangular structures. Yeah,

581
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: unless it's some sort of custom piece for a geodesic tone,

582
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: which is very expensive. Yeah, you have to get all

583
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: this stuff made yourself. And the same goes true for uh,

584
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: Like the construction world is set up for square uh,

585
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: so fixtures and and plumbing and pipes and all that

586
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: stuff has to be sort of uh and contractors get

587
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: scared away from these sayings, Oh yeah, they won't come

588
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: near it. Yeah unless you're just a specialist. Sure, and

589
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: you're probably like the highest paid contractor in the world

590
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: who works like once a year. Yes, um, but those

591
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: same disadvantages are also advantages, right, Like you have a

592
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: lot more floor space. Yeah, but sometimes it's wasted. It

593
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: can be like if you've got a a big long couch,

594
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: you've got a bunch of space behind it that's just

595
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: sitting there a little, a little semi circle behind you.

596
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: That's why a lot of and I think this is

597
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: the reason why I'm not super hip on geodesic Jones

598
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: is um. A lot of the stuff is just kind

599
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: of out in the center of the room right right,

600
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: and it looks adrift or un anchored. That's a good

601
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: thing about a wall or a corner or something like that.

602
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: It provides a visual anchor to your stuff. No one

603
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: can sneak up on you. No, that's maybe that's why

604
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I'm like, what's what's behind me?

605
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: Do you like your back against the wall in a restaurant? No?

606
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: I don't care about that, man, do you? Yeah? Really,

607
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: you're afraid you're gonna get what? Are you a gangster

608
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: or something? Now? I don't think I'm gonna get whacked.

609
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: It's just I just feel exposed. And Emily is very sweet.

610
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: She's usually like, go ahead and take the seat, but

611
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: lately she's been like no, that's mine. Oh yeah, nothing, man,

612
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: it's just the time we're living in. She's doing it.

613
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: So do you sit there and like turn around every

614
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: time somebody comes in the waiter comes in and a

615
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: punch of my chain around and punch of don't touch

616
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: my stuff. Uh. Rain, We talked about rain. Um, it

617
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: can be problematic. H And it says in here that

618
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: flat roofs are the best. What they mean are flat

619
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: roofs at an angle because the truly flat roof it's

620
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: not good. Frank Lloyd Wright did a bunch of those,

621
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: and they were his. His houses were could be very problematic.

622
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: He had the very famous exchange. I can't remember the

623
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: the person, but it was some very very wealthy, sort

624
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 1: of noteworthy person. Frank Lloyd Wright built in a house

625
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: and he called and complained and said, the waters is

626
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: now dripping onto my desk, and supposedly Frankloyd Wright said,

627
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: moved the desk. And that sounds like frankly right, Yeah

628
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: for sure. I don't know if that's a true story,

629
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: but true. Um, so with with the with a shingle roof,

630
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: even with the flat roof, like a flat roof is

631
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: not moving water, but it's probably not coming down. There's

632
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: not as many places for it to come down with

633
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: a geodesic dome. Every place where your struts, the sides

634
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: of the triangle come together at an angle at the nodes,

635
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: there is a point where water can get in and

636
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: actually can get in along where one triangle goes into another.

637
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot of places for water to penetrate the

638
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: geodesic dome. It's a water nightmare from what I can tell. Well,

639
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 1: let's put together from a lot of little panels. Yeah,

640
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: so let's let's just really briefly say that. So one

641
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: of the things, one of the reasons why people were

642
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: crazy for geodesic domes is you could put them together,

643
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: like we said in a day. Yeah, you can get

644
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: a color coded kit. You still can, and there are

645
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: companies out there that will send them to you, and

646
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: you can get your friends, get some good sixties speed

647
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: in the case of beer or two, and build your

648
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: house in a couple of days and not sleep the

649
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: entire time. Um. So, when you when you put these

650
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: things together, you're you're building the structure and then you're

651
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: coding the structure. It can be one kid I saw

652
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: as a greenhouse, it's a really great greenhouse. If you've

653
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: ever been on a jungle gym that was built after

654
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: the sixties, those dome ones geodesic don't um. But what

655
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: the structure can be made from, like a hollow tubing,

656
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: ply or um, two by fours, whatever, it can be, wood,

657
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: it can be whatever. And then usually the outside the

658
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: triangles that fill in over the structure concrete or plastic

659
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: or plywood or something like that. Then you want to

660
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: coat it. But all those different seals or those different seams,

661
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: they're all just water heaven um, which is again a

662
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: big problem. We probably problem number one practically speaking. Yeah,

663
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,479
Speaker 1: it's interesting now that I think about it. It's sort

664
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: of how tent design has gone over the years. Tints

665
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: used to be just like camping tents, just like triangles,

666
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: like a pup tent, and then the big dome tents

667
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: came into fashion, and then I think the secret was

668
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: to try and make dome tents with his few seems

669
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: as possible because that's where your water gets in, and

670
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: a few poles too, Yeah, just a couple of and

671
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: then maybe and then you got you got your tent.

672
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: You could be a tent designer. I did I want

673
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: to go ahead and trademark what I just said. Okay,

674
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: should we talk about some famous domes. I think we

675
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: should because that's always the best part. There's the Expo

676
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: six s one that, by the way, burned as well.

677
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: Now the structure stayed. They turned it into a biosphere

678
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: in the nineties. I believe so Brendan Fraser lists in

679
00:38:51,480 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: there and Stephen Baldwin sure man alive that's where he's been. Uh.

680
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: There is the in these to me, like if you

681
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: look up the how do you pronounce the one in Japan,

682
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: the Fukuoka Yahoo Oko Dome was at the full name

683
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: Yahoo Oku with an exclamation point because Yahoo is the

684
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: sponsor rights. Yeah, so that is a baseball stadium. But

685
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: when you look at these like I don't like, to me,

686
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: I think of Epcot. When you look at this baseball stadium,

687
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel I mean, it is a geodesic dome,

688
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: but it just doesn't feel like that kind of futuristic

689
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: like highly paneled triangular thing. Well, what's cool about it

690
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: is the dome part actually retracts in like twenty minutes.

691
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: And the reason to retracts so quickly is because it's

692
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: so lightweight comparatively speaking, yeah, so it's pretty sweet. There's

693
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: Thema Dome, yeah, which is a wood dome that just

694
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: does not sound sturdy to me. Yeah, what was it? Oh?

695
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: Our Skyscrapers episode? Was that that new Wood skyscraper somewhere? Uh?

696
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: Why do I want to say, like Nebraska? I thought

697
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: that was Japan too? Oh was it? I think? So

698
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: it's one of the two. Right, it's easy to get

699
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 1: him confused. Osaka Nebraska. They sound alike. Uh. The Tacoma

700
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: Dome is where the Sonics used to play. They're like

701
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant gonna love this. Oh man, so sad. Uh.

702
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: I wonder when a team leaves. I've always wondered if

703
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: they just because I know, like when the Browns left

704
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: and became the Ravens. You know, my stepfather was like

705
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: they were just dead to me. Wait what Yeah, that's

706
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: where the Ravens came from. They were the Cleveland Browns

707
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: where the Browns. The Browns aren't playing still, no, no, no,

708
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 1: they they the Browns had no There were no Browns

709
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: for years, and then they came back and said, we'll

710
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: give you a team again, Cleveland, and you can be

711
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 1: the Browns again. But he art model literally famously packed

712
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night, like their footage

713
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: of eighteen wheeler trucks at like two a um like

714
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: hauling stuff. You don't want to leave Cleveland, esk Lebron.

715
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: But they were dead to him after that, And I

716
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: always wonder, like, if the Falcons left Atlanta and went

717
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: to Birmingham, they'd still be the same guys. I would

718
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be like, no, screw that team. No, That's

719
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: definitely how I went with. Yeah, they were Sattle was

720
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: not very happy about that. They were not. Supposedly they're

721
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: going to get another team. One of the Microsoft founders,

722
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: I guess was in the act is talking about bringing them.

723
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: Somebody from Microsoft is going to bring a team. They're saying,

724
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: what was it, Paul Allen? I don't think so. He

725
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: just passed away though, right, Maybe it was Paul Allen.

726
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: I mean he owned the Sonics, I think, but he

727
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: was from Microsoft. I'm just getting all confused now. No,

728
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: I think Paul Allen was Bill Gates partner. He died. Yeah,

729
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: I think he died kind of in the last like

730
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: six months. Well, maybe Seattle is not getting a basketball team,

731
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Okay, where did they go oh Oklahoma City? Right? Yeah, Oh,

732
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 1: it's so confusing everyone for two half sports guys like us,

733
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: you don't even make a full sports guy. Who's your

734
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: team this season? Well? I always read for the Hawks,

735
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: but it's just there a waste land. It's pretty bag.

736
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: So I don't even care. Who do Shrewder play for? Now?

737
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: Does he? Oh? I thought it was a different Western team,

738
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: you like Lebron in l A. Sure we should have

739
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: a sports show called the Worst Sports Show on the

740
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: Web kind of. This is a trailer for it. Uh

741
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: what about the Eden project? That? That one's pretty cool?

742
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: And aren't there two of these? And there one in

743
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: China as well? I think they're going to open one

744
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: in China. I think there's a third one they're opening,

745
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: but the one that the original ones in corn Cornwall,

746
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, canal cornhole in in the u K. God

747
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: knows how you pronounce that. I guarantee it's not Cornwall's

748
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: probably Cornwall maybe. Um, this one's really cool though. This

749
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: is one where you look it up and you're like,

750
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: this is what you should be doing. And within geodesic dome,

751
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: like uh experimentation, they build a diome or biome That's

752
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: one of the points of a geodesic dome is you

753
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: can create a different climate inside a larger climate. It's

754
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: a bubble. You're creating a climate bubble. That's what the

755
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: Eden Project did at least, and they have two of them.

756
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: They've got a tropical biome and then a smaller Mediterranean

757
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: biomes and they're just beautiful, lots of amazing plants and

758
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: waterfalls and just great stuff. Apparently it's a wonderful tourist attraction.

759
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: I would go. I think there's also a witchcraft museum

760
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: in Cornwall that I want to go to. Let's do it, man,

761
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: all right, we're going road trip. We gotta do a

762
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: UK tour again. Yeah, that was awesome, and then we'll

763
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: detour off to Cornwall. Maybe do a show there. How

764
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: many people are there Cornwall? Let us know if we

765
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: should do a show there. Let's do a live show

766
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: inside the tropical biome. That'd be cool. I wonder if

767
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: we could set that up. We could also do in

768
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: a upcut too well, do well do a geodesic dome tour?

769
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: Can we do one inside of the castle and the

770
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: magic can ask? You have connections there? Right? Yeah? Friend

771
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: Brandon that's right. Who built my site, the Josh clarkway

772
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: dot com. I know I'm gonna have to get in

773
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: touch with him as my kid gets older. I have

774
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: to finally drag Emily down there. He will happily help

775
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: you out. Here's a great guy. He help brother. Oh

776
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: and by the way, I'm glad you brought that up.

777
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: Congratulations to Brandon and Katie on the birth of their

778
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,479
Speaker 1: first ever child. Wo Yes, Cooper born into Disney Royalty. Yeah,

779
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: pretty much, it's pretty great. Congrats dudes. I wonder if

780
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: Cooper is going to go up and just be like,

781
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: yeah and take care to leave it. I go like

782
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: twice a week. Right, this is euro Disney. I wish

783
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: it Disney. Uh. Well, that is Spaceship Earth, of course,

784
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: is the one we're talking about there that we mentioned.

785
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: A hundred and eighty feet tall silver geosphere very much

786
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: the central sort of shining star of Epcot. That's why

787
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: everybody thinks of with Epcot on every shirt, well not

788
00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: every shirt. But did you know that God as an acronym? Chuck?

789
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: I did, but I remembered that from when I was

790
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: a kid, but I can't remember now. What is it?

791
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow and the name of the

792
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: geodesic dome is actually called Spaceship Earth and it was

793
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: directly influenced by Bucky Fuller. Um. Walt Disney was a

794
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: big futurist. That's why there's like tomorrow Land and all

795
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: that stuff, and why there's upcotton in general. Um. But

796
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: not only did he inspire Spaceship Earth. The name Spaceship

797
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: Earth comes from a Bucky Fuller essay kind of a

798
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: novella called an Operating Manual for a Spaceship Earth. You

799
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: can find the PDF for free on the web and

800
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: get a pretty good idea of Bucky Fuller's whole jam.

801
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: You know what I heard. I heard that that very

802
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: famous Walt Disney signature is not his signature and believe

803
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: that a cartoonist designer came up with that. It's too perfect.

804
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 1: I could totally see that. I'm not I'm not affected

805
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: by that. I'm okay with it. Oh really, he's not

806
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: just a big fraud now in your mind. Basically I

807
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: let him off the hook. Uh. If you want to

808
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: know more about g desic domes, go make friends with

809
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: a hippie. And since I said that, it's time for

810
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: listener mail. I'm gonna call one of our new young fans.

811
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: Got a very sweet email from Veronica. Hey, guys, I'm Veronica,

812
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: fifteen years old and I'm from Indianapolis, Indiana. I just

813
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: heard about Sarah, the thirteen year old super fan. Who's yeah,

814
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: Sarah's she's Miss carn Um, and I too, am a

815
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: super fan. I started listening when I was nine or

816
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: ten with my mom every once in a while. Then

817
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: I got an iPod and started listening to you regularly

818
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: when I was eleven. I love listening to the show

819
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: when I'm getting ready in the morning and I'm going

820
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: to school. We're going to sleep before bed. Every time

821
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: you guys do a tour announcement, I always hope you're

822
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: gonna say somewhere close, like within two hours of Indianapolis.

823
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: But I don't think that has ever happened. Dude, Cleveland

824
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: is not that far from Indianapolis. I took a break

825
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: from podcast for about two months, but I missed listening

826
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: to them, so I came back and now and back

827
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: regularly again. I just want to stop in and say hi.

828
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: If I'm lucky, I'll make it to the podcast, but

829
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: I don't expect it. Just keep being you, guys, because

830
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: I love to learn about the four different types of

831
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: cat hair, the fact that cinnamon is a type of

832
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: tree bark, perfume is made from whale vomit, and eurosol

833
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: is what makes poison ivy so itchy. Wow, my mom

834
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: really likes your beard, Chuck, and she hopes that someone

835
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 1: gives you some beard lights for Christmas. Oh. I saw those.

836
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 1: If you don't know what they are, they're just little

837
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: ornaments that you hang in your beard. Have you seen them?

838
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: And they light up super festive? Do you want some? Okay,

839
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: I cut most of my beard off. I just noticed

840
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: that it looks very trim. This is sort of like

841
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: the old days. Looks nice. Uh. And that is she

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Speaker 1: put a sign to Veronica, which is adorable. Thank Veronica,

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Speaker 1: so Veronica. I think we should. We were trying to

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Speaker 1: for nine oh boy and uh and give Indiana some love.

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Speaker 1: This year, we were like, I don't know, Salt Lake City, Phoenix,

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Speaker 1: and they were great. It's true. Well, to be honest,

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Speaker 1: Salt Lake City came out for us. They email us

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Speaker 1: there like, yes, please come. We got such an overwhelming

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Speaker 1: we should go to Indianapolis. I told her, if we do,

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Speaker 1: then we'll put her in mom on the guest lists.

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Speaker 1: Very nice, dumb, they're settled. We could We could go

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Speaker 1: to a show there where the cults play. Is it

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Speaker 1: the Colts? What do they play? Soccer? Yeah, but they

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Speaker 1: came from Baltimore. It then became the Ravens. It's just

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Speaker 1: so weird. Everyone's moving all over the place. Who's the

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Speaker 1: great leader of um the Pacers? Now Victor Um the

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Speaker 1: great leader? Yeah, great leader? Kim John Victor another coach? No, no,

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Speaker 1: he's like the captain. But yeah, he's a player. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, Ron artest fixer. Now Victor Borgia, Yes, Victor

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Speaker 1: Borgia is now anyway, we're going to list him to

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Speaker 1: once I remember his last name, because he's a Victoria player.

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