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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Buck Sexton and you're listening to the

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Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon Podcast, part of the Clay Travers and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton podcast Network. Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. First

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Speaker 1: and foremost, we are praying for our brothers and sisters

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Speaker 1: in Israel. As you know, Hamas carried out the worst

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Speaker 1: terror attack on Israel in its history. These monsters kidnapped children,

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Speaker 1: women and elderly, then posted pictures in videos of them

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Speaker 1: on social media. They are now threatening to broadcast the

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Speaker 1: brutal murders of innocent children. Israel is at war, and

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Speaker 1: yet there are no rules in a war with terrorists.

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Speaker 1: These are war crimes, and they are crimes against one

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Speaker 1: of our greatest allies. I want to be clear, any

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Speaker 1: American siding with Hamas in this conflict is a traitor

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Speaker 1: to our country, to our way of life, and to

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Speaker 1: our freedom. Sit safely in our homes, unaware of how

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Speaker 1: many terrorists have slipped into our own country under this

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Speaker 1: irresponsible administration. An open border puts US in as much

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Speaker 1: danger as Israel. These monsters are out there chanting gas

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Speaker 1: the Jews and death to America. There can be no

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Speaker 1: mercy for terrorists Americans who are confused about this put

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Speaker 1: all of us in danger. Elected officials who waiver should

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Speaker 1: be voted out of office to discuss this in more detail.

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Speaker 1: I am pleased to welcome and have with me today

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Speaker 1: founder of Polaris National Security, also an intelligence officer in

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Speaker 1: the US Navy Reserves, Morgan Ortegas. Thank you, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for talking to us about this in such

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Speaker 1: a sad day here in the United States and in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tudor, thank you so much for having me on

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Speaker 2: and for highlighting this. It has been an incredibly emotional

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Speaker 2: a few days. I was actually supposed to be in

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Speaker 2: Israel right now. I landed in Katar, and I was

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Speaker 2: in the Middle East. I landed Saturday morning, didn't sleep

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Speaker 2: I thought, what am I seeing here? You know, you're

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Speaker 2: so used to Hammas, you know, doing some sort of

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Speaker 2: terror attack against Israel, but nothing of this scale. And

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Speaker 2: as it started to unfold and we saw how bad

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Speaker 2: these attacks are. You know, every day it gets worse.

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Speaker 2: I think, first of all, you made such a great

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Speaker 2: point about you know, people who would try and side

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Speaker 2: there's no well, let's talk about both sides of the issue.

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Speaker 2: None of that. There was a massive terrorist attack where

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Speaker 2: the most Jews were killed since the Holocaust, and that

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Speaker 2: one's and that and those attacks on Saturday, that should

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Speaker 2: of us to know that we have constantly said never again,

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Speaker 2: and unfortunately, never again happened over the weekend. Some of

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Speaker 2: the reports Tutor that I'm seeing this morning, and I think,

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Speaker 2: want to I want to look away. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to talk about this, but we must. And I twenty four,

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Speaker 2: which is Israeli cable news channel, had firsthand reporting from

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Speaker 2: some idea of soldiers who went into to Rid kibbutz

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Speaker 1: I mean, how can when you say these things, when

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Speaker 1: These are war crimes. This is not a situation where

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Speaker 1: If this is what you're.

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Speaker 2: Doing, that's absolutely right. I don't know how you could

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Speaker 2: You're cheering for terrorists. You know. We have freedom of

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Speaker 2: but we should also be able to expose it, to

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Speaker 2: let me first of all say that I felt an

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Speaker 2: and I just want to thank you, know you and

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Speaker 2: You know, last night, before I went to bed, which

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Speaker 2: your Jewish friends and people who are listening, you know,

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Speaker 2: to know, you know, you know, theoretically that people want

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Speaker 2: the Holocaust, and but to know that that type of

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Speaker 2: hate still exists today. You know, I said this yesterday

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Speaker 1: Frank, I think there's also a naivete in the United States.

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Speaker 1: We do feel safe. We are ignorant to the fact

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Speaker 1: I think we are ignorant to the fact that this exists.

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Speaker 2: missing from your statement, governor, Jews and terrorism. She couldn't

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Speaker 2: call it terrorism, like, what's an affected community? Say what

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Speaker 2: like everybody goes back and forth. But the statement should

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Speaker 1: a Tutor Dixon podcast. And it's not just the Israeli community.

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Speaker 1: We have eleven Americans over there who have been absolutely

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Speaker 1: We just don't know. This is an attack against America

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes, thank you for bringing that up to my knowledge. Lestie.

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Speaker 2: And don't forget Tutor, we have probably two hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: What is the hesitation? I mean, what is the fear

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Speaker 2: Listen, she certainly, as you an ambassador, can talk about this,

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Speaker 2: as you said firsthand experience, there can be a ceasefire

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Speaker 2: after the Hamas threat is eliminated. Sure, then we can

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Speaker 2: talk about a ceasefire. But I think we're a long

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Speaker 2: way from that. You know that I worked for President Trump,

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Speaker 2: and one of the things that has been so hard

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Speaker 2: were talking about kabble in Afghanistan and that disaster withdraw

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Speaker 2: it was so hard in that moment. It's been so

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Speaker 2: hard to watch the Russian you know, war in Ukraine

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Speaker 2: because these are things that you know wouldn't have happened

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Speaker 2: and didn't happen under President Trump and under his leadership.

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Speaker 2: And you know, when I look at at the end

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Speaker 2: of the Trump administration and those final months leading up

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Speaker 2: to the election, what did we do. Well, We signed

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Speaker 2: the inc on the Abraham Accords, the first peace deals

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Speaker 2: between Israel and Arab States in twenty six years. So

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Speaker 2: Trump handed Biden peace in the Middle East, right, he

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Speaker 2: handed him historic peace deals.

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Speaker 1: And what did you see?

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Speaker 2: Within three months Hamas had started attacking Israel. And now

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Speaker 2: you see three years into Biden's presidency. You see the

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Speaker 2: worst attack on the Jewish people since the Holocaust that

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Speaker 2: never ever would have happened under President Trump.

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Speaker 1: And so well, that's he's come out. He's come out,

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Speaker 1: and he said that he's been very bold about saying, Look,

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Speaker 1: Ukraine didn't wouldn't have happened under my administration, and this

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Speaker 1: attack from Hamas would not have happened under my administration.

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people, obviously folks on

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Speaker 1: the on the right side of the aisle, are going, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we want that back. Look, we didn't have war, we

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Speaker 1: didn't have any of our service members dying, we didn't

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Speaker 1: have this disastrous pull out from from Afghanistan, We did

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Speaker 1: not have all of these embarrassing catastrophes under the Trump administration.

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Speaker 1: Is it possible that a Trump administration comes back in

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Speaker 1: and these things really do start to get cleaned up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he has said he has the ability to

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Speaker 1: go in and negotiate and stop some of this, and

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Speaker 1: I think you've made it clear that this happens not

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Speaker 1: only through negotiation, but sanction and being tough. And the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration has been very weak, very wobbly on the

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Speaker 1: world stage. What does it look like if a Trump

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Speaker 1: administration goes back in there, how does this get cleaned

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Speaker 1: up quickly?

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Speaker 2: You know? The analysis paralysis is what you really see

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Speaker 2: coming out of this National Security Council and out of

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Speaker 2: this White House. And if you look tutor at all

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Speaker 2: the articles when you read about you know, why why

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Speaker 2: does did Biden slow walk the aid to Ukraine? For example?

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm one of the people that are old

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Speaker 2: enough to remember when Trump, President Trump gave military and

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Speaker 2: lethal aid to the Ukrainians and then Joe Biden and

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Speaker 2: his team stopped that aid and they said, well, we

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Speaker 2: will only give lethal aid to the Ukrainians if Putin invades.

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Speaker 2: And so when you look at every article, they always

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Speaker 2: say things like, well we would do X, but we

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Speaker 2: don't want to provoke Putin, right, And it's the same thing.

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Speaker 2: You can go through any theater. Well, why do we

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Speaker 2: have the current appeasement policy towards China where every major

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Speaker 2: US official cabinet goes to China, goes to Beijing uninvited

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Speaker 2: to kiss the ring to the of the emperor. You know,

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Speaker 2: So we're doing this in every theater, right, not just

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Speaker 2: you know, not just with Russia, not just in the

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Speaker 2: Middle East, and so they're always worried about, well, if

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Speaker 2: we do X, then putin or Shijingping or Hamas or whomever,

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Speaker 2: or Ron, they will overreact if we do this. You

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Speaker 2: know that just a fundamentally different worldview than what we

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Speaker 2: had under Mike Pompeo, under President Trump. Listen, when Nikki

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Speaker 2: Hayley was at the UN when Pence was the vice president,

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Speaker 2: we all took our leadership. Of course, we were able

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Speaker 2: to be tough because we had a president that was tough,

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Speaker 2: and we said, you know what, we're going to do

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Speaker 2: the right thing and we'll see what the consequences are

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Speaker 2: when we moved the US. When President Trump moved the

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Speaker 2: US Embassy to Jerusalem, he said, wait a minute. The

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Speaker 2: law of the land states that the US Embassy must

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Speaker 2: be in Jerusalem, and Congress has to sign a waiver.

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Speaker 2: I think it was every six months, at least once

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Speaker 2: a year, Congress had to pass a waiver to keep

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Speaker 2: the US Embassy in Tel Aviv, as opposed to putting

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Speaker 2: it in Jerusalem, where the law of the Land said

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Speaker 2: it was supposed to be. Trump said, that makes no

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Speaker 2: sense to me. Everybody said you would start World War

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Speaker 2: three by putting the US embassy in Jerusalem. Spoiler alert

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Speaker 2: to your audience, tutor, we didn't start World War three.

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Speaker 2: They said the same thing whenever we stood for Israel

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Speaker 2: and their and sovereignty over the Goal on Heights, when

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Speaker 2: we stood by them, you know, over their settlements, all

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Speaker 2: of these issues and all these things. We said, we

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Speaker 2: are going to stand firm and strong with our allies

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Speaker 2: and friends. We're going to defend our allies and friends,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to punish our enemies. And when we

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Speaker 2: took out Kasum Sulimani, who was head of the Iranian

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Speaker 2: Coulds Force i RGC, Coulds Force, who's head of IERGC,

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Speaker 2: one of the world's leading terrorists, probably the world's leading

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Speaker 2: terrorist at the time, they definitely said we were going

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Speaker 2: to start World War three. Then right, we did not

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Speaker 2: because people knew, Wait a minute, this is a president,

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Speaker 2: this is a secretary of state, this is an administration

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Speaker 2: that actually means what they say. They're actually going to

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Speaker 2: follow through when they have a threat. And that's where

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Speaker 2: we need to get back to in our presence on

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Speaker 2: the world stage. In my opinion, you may not like it,

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Speaker 2: you may not agree with it, but you know where

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Speaker 2: we stand.

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Speaker 1: Well. I think that, like I said when we started

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Speaker 1: this podcast, if you don't agree with taking care of

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Speaker 1: our allies, then maybe are in the wrong country. This

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Speaker 1: is not the place for you. We have allies, we

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Speaker 1: take care of them, and we certainly do not support terrorists. Sadly,

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Speaker 1: Iran as the number one sponsor of terror in the world,

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Speaker 1: and we need to be aware of that. We need

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Speaker 1: to be aware of what they're willing to do to

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Speaker 1: their own people, let alone people outside of their country,

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Speaker 1: and it is a concern for the entire United States

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Speaker 1: of America. Morgan or Tegis, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: taking time to talk to us about this today. As

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Speaker 1: I said, we are praying for the people of Israel.

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Speaker 1: We will continue and we'll continue to follow this and

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Speaker 1: love to have you back as we get more in

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Speaker 1: detail as to what's happening over there in the Middle East.

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Speaker 2: Happy too, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Tutor, Yes, thank you, and thank you all for joining

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