Speaker 1: Guys, I want to show you something. Yes, good cure
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Speaker 1: You name Jeff and Mandy. Jeff, Yeah, all right, Well
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Speaker 1: I just noticed you kind of scratching your armpit a
Speaker 1: little bit, which leads to my pre show chatter. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: do you shave your armpits or do any kind of time? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna recommend you start. I know, I can't believe
Speaker 1: you shave your armpits. It's just extra work for no,
Speaker 1: like if if if it's it's culturally acceptable for you
Speaker 1: to have armpit here, just have armpit because but it's, dude,
Speaker 1: you sweat a lot less, there's less of a smell.
Speaker 1: You need a way less yodorant. It's but you have
Speaker 1: to shave your armpits all the time. It takes two
Speaker 1: seconds you're in the shower, two seconds you're done. Listen,
Speaker 1: takes me two seconds. You're a pretty hairy guy, aren't you. No, No, no, hay, okay,
Speaker 1: I'd recommend it. I'm just throwing that out there. It's
Speaker 1: pretty wonderful. Also, it is probably not very likely that
Speaker 1: for Will, anybody ever sees your armpits anyway, You don't
Speaker 1: not like a tank top guy. No. So as far
Speaker 1: as like anyone knowing that you shave your armpits, nobody
Speaker 1: really knows. So when you say, writer, well it's culturally
Speaker 1: acceptable for Will to have hairy armpits, no one even
Speaker 1: knows me in a tank top, it looks like somebody
Speaker 1: weirdly pressed a thing of toothpaste, Like it's just this
Speaker 1: weird shaped thing with the head on the top, and like, oh,
Speaker 1: that doesn't work. So yeah, so do you just get
Speaker 1: in the shower and like nare from the neck down? No,
Speaker 1: I don't nare, but I shave and it's not the
Speaker 1: neck down. It's like, really, I don't have to worry
Speaker 1: about the chest area, the man chest. I've never had
Speaker 1: the vpube, so I've never had to worry about this,
Speaker 1: but the armpits I started so bodybuilders do it, which
Speaker 1: clearly I am. Yeah, and I was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give this a shot and I and it's life changing.
Speaker 1: It's like you don't yeah, there's like no smell. It's amazing. Writer.
Speaker 1: I think what you're thinking of is is the first
Speaker 1: time weird, because yeah, there's a lot of hair there
Speaker 1: the first time, so you may want to do like
Speaker 1: a trimming down and then a shave with a razor,
Speaker 1: so like you would use a beard trimmer or a
Speaker 1: hair trimmer to like get the length gone. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and then but then after that as far as like
Speaker 1: stubble and what regrows if you do it every day
Speaker 1: or every other day. Yeah, it's it's you don't need
Speaker 1: more work in my life. I don't, you know, I don't.
Speaker 1: It's very hard enough for the guas shaw it is. Daniel.
Speaker 1: I was like, what do you call it the quashawa? Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: I just like you know, And I also don't mind
Speaker 1: if women don't shave their armpits or shave their legs,
Speaker 1: Like that's a thing for me too. Yeah, Like I
Speaker 1: remember girls like shaving their legs at the age of thirteen.
Speaker 1: I remember being like why because if anything, then it's
Speaker 1: like stubbly or like rough, and like it's weird. Um.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's never like hair. Body hair is not
Speaker 1: a problem for me. It's never been one of those things.
Speaker 1: You're also not a stinky man. No, that's good. That's good. Thanks. No,
Speaker 1: Daniel's right there. The first time is weird, especially since
Speaker 1: I did it on video for only fans, But the
Speaker 1: rest of it was totally normal after that. Keeping it
Speaker 1: up after that was fine. I do wish I had
Speaker 1: trimmed my armpit hair a little bit before a key
Speaker 1: scene in the movie Cabin Fever about this has been
Speaker 1: this photograph it's like screenshot of me. It's like how
Speaker 1: a scene opens with me with my armpits like up,
Speaker 1: and like at that time, I just didn't care, Like
Speaker 1: I never cared about my body. I never cared about
Speaker 1: my body hair. I just didn't. I was just like whatever.
Speaker 1: And in retrospect, like when you're an actor, you kind
Speaker 1: of gotta care a little bit about your Your appearance
Speaker 1: actually kind of matters, you know, like that's part of
Speaker 1: your job. And like, clearly I just didn't give a
Speaker 1: crap about you do any nanscaping? Do you do any manscaping? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: a little bit, but like one it's a month or
Speaker 1: you know, like every once in a while. It's not
Speaker 1: like a daily routine. Yeah, well, I sent writer. I
Speaker 1: know this answer because I sent write a writer and
Speaker 1: I wear natural deodorant. We don't wear anything that has
Speaker 1: like a luminium in it and whatever, and so writer
Speaker 1: or no, no don't work. No, it doesn't wear. Some
Speaker 1: stuff out there. I don't want to like bash brands,
Speaker 1: but there's some stuff out there that definitely does not work, yes,
Speaker 1: that I've used. Well, so what do you wear? Then?
Speaker 1: What can I get? Because of course i'd love to
Speaker 1: have a deodorant that doesn't have a luminium or something,
Speaker 1: and it's so, what can I wear? Well, I'll actually
Speaker 1: send it to you because I sent it to Writer
Speaker 1: because Writer and I had talked about our natural deodorant
Speaker 1: wearing and the one we were using, which in my opinion,
Speaker 1: only works for a short period of time, and then
Speaker 1: I feel like I need to reapply it, and then
Speaker 1: I don't really want to have to do that. And
Speaker 1: then I found one that is a cream that I
Speaker 1: love and it comes in a glass jar and it
Speaker 1: has a wood a little wood spoon that you scoop
Speaker 1: it out and put it on, and it is it's
Speaker 1: with there's charcoal in it. It is in rereadible. You
Speaker 1: can go all day, you don't smell, you don't sweat.
Speaker 1: I really really like it, and so I sent it
Speaker 1: to Writer and Writer was like, a cream not for
Speaker 1: me in my armpit hair, not for me? And I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, never mind, So I'll send it to
Speaker 1: you well, because thank you for you will get caught
Speaker 1: my armpit hair. I'm smooth as glass. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: welcome to pod Mee's world. I'm Danielle Fishel. I'm Harry
Speaker 1: Rider Strong and I'm smooth as glass for Dill. So
Speaker 1: welcome to this episode, which is season two episode thirteen, Cyrano,
Speaker 1: which originally aired January sixth, nineteen ninety five. The synopsis
Speaker 1: is that Sean and Corey are strong armed into helping
Speaker 1: Frankie charm Gloria, the girl of his dreams. The problem
Speaker 1: is Gloria just happens to be Harley Kiner's current girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Also Alan buys Amy a bad gift. It was directed
Speaker 1: by David Traynor. It was written by Susan Astell Jansen.
Speaker 1: It is guest starring Danny McNulty as Harvey Harley kin
Speaker 1: Blake Soaper is Joseph Joey, the rat Epstein Ethan Supple
Speaker 1: is Frankie Stacchino, and Mathea Webb as Gloria. And uh,
Speaker 1: we can jump right into our recap unless either of
Speaker 1: you have any specific memories you want to talk about
Speaker 1: off the bat. I don't, I know. No. I did
Speaker 1: want to say for our for our fans out there
Speaker 1: who follow our Instagram account, to show that I do
Speaker 1: hold on to everything. I'm in the exact same Whalers Jersey.
Speaker 1: There you go. That was just posted, So now here
Speaker 1: you are and I wanted you to know I remember
Speaker 1: that jersey so well. It was a favorite of yours
Speaker 1: back then. I probably still a favorite of yours, Still
Speaker 1: still love it. Yeah. So um. We are in mister
Speaker 1: Turner's classroom. Mister Turner is teaching Cyrano de Bergerac, a
Speaker 1: story of an unattractive yet well spoken man who, added
Speaker 1: to the Boy Meets World book clubs the literary reference YEMM.
Speaker 1: He uses his better looking friend as a vessel to
Speaker 1: profess love to the woman of his dreams. To Anga
Speaker 1: thinks that is sweet and noble, but the rest of
Speaker 1: the cast calls Cyrano a loser, or rather a dip,
Speaker 1: which we said so much. I am so uncomfortable with
Speaker 1: this word. Were you guys weird to help by it?
Speaker 1: I was, what does it? What does it mean? I
Speaker 1: don't know, I've never heard it. I just it's like
Speaker 1: the second came out of my mouth. I was like,
Speaker 1: did I just say dick? Like I was right? And
Speaker 1: then we kept saying it, and I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: I've heard people being called like a drip, like you
Speaker 1: call somebody a drip in like nineteen forties insults speak,
Speaker 1: But I've never heard dip before except this content dippy,
Speaker 1: like you're like, you're a dip. I guess it's more
Speaker 1: an amount of poetic than anything else where. It's like,
Speaker 1: you're just so awkward. In the scene, I kept being like,
Speaker 1: I'm weirded out by the use of this word. I'm
Speaker 1: not comfortable with it. I feel like where you're swearing
Speaker 1: without swearing. I know. I didn't like it either. I
Speaker 1: didn't like it. It just made my skin crawl. I
Speaker 1: was like, this was a big mistake, like because they
Speaker 1: could have gone with any you know what were we
Speaker 1: calling him? We were calling him a I don't know what,
Speaker 1: a loser basically, right, there's there's a whole variety of
Speaker 1: words we could have been using, but we kept going
Speaker 1: on dip and it's repeated like five times. I was like, ooh,
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I know. I I felt the
Speaker 1: same way. And it was like somebody said moist seventy
Speaker 1: five times in a scene. I was like, wow, that word.
Speaker 1: But you know about when we were when we were
Speaker 1: filming this, I know how I I don't remember, but
Speaker 1: I know invariably what I felt like was that this
Speaker 1: must be a word that adults use all the time.
Speaker 1: Because I always felt that way, like everything that we
Speaker 1: were told to say or that was in the script,
Speaker 1: you know, we were I always felt disempowered. I was
Speaker 1: always sort of like, well, smarter people than me, with
Speaker 1: a lot more knowledge than me, wrote these things, so
Speaker 1: they know what they're talking about, and so I would
Speaker 1: take that as sort of truth. So, like, I guarantee
Speaker 1: you in my mind, saying he's a big dip and
Speaker 1: they're a dip or whatever over and over was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: that must be slang that you know, forty year olds
Speaker 1: use all the time, And now I can look at
Speaker 1: it and be like, no, no, it's not. I never
Speaker 1: heard anybody else say that, no ever, not once. Before
Speaker 1: we move on, I'd just like to say, very quickly, Danielle,
Speaker 1: I am now to the point of the show or
Speaker 1: two things. One I don't remember the episodes at all,
Speaker 1: and two, I'm far more comforted when Tapanga is in
Speaker 1: the scene. Yeah, so when we open up and there's
Speaker 1: two there's that three shot and it's Tapanga and then
Speaker 1: Corey and then Sean, it's like that's the that's a
Speaker 1: comfort feeling for me. It's like, Okay, we're back. So
Speaker 1: it was very nice to see you in this episode again,
Speaker 1: and thank you when we get into it more because
Speaker 1: it's it's very nice and comforting. Thank you. I agree
Speaker 1: that three shot. When that happens, there's a there's a
Speaker 1: like a cool I know where we are, like, I know,
Speaker 1: I know what's going to I know what's going on.
Speaker 1: Even though Topanga disappears very early on whatever, I don't
Speaker 1: even need to stick around through the episode. But there
Speaker 1: is something like, ah, the show is when ye, well,
Speaker 1: the three characters in a line are perfectly descriptive. You know,
Speaker 1: It's like Sean's in the back, yep, Corey's somewhere in
Speaker 1: the middle, and Topanga's right right everything, and it's like
Speaker 1: so it's like it describes the entire story and and
Speaker 1: and this the spectrum of the characters are laid out
Speaker 1: perfickly and whenever you turn back around to explain something
Speaker 1: to us, this is a great dynamic. Yeah. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: still want the classroom to be the other way. I know,
Speaker 1: still uncomfortable, but you know, but this helps, this helps. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree. So Tapanga and Sean banter back and forth,
Speaker 1: and Topanga eventually says boys will never understand passion romance
Speaker 1: and women men will spend half their life confused and
Speaker 1: the other half paying alimony and b versus girl episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of men just don't get
Speaker 1: these ways. That's all this episode is, and we'll get
Speaker 1: into that later. I hate what they're doing with Alan
Speaker 1: in this episode is so just men will never understand women.
Speaker 1: Women understand everything, and men are just stupid eyes. Do
Speaker 1: they still be this on sitcoms? I don't know, but
Speaker 1: it was such a sitcom thing in such a sitcom thing,
Speaker 1: and it was such a nineties sitcom thing. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: just curious, I mean because I know that it continued
Speaker 1: into other shows, but I feel like, I mean, Kevin
Speaker 1: James's entire career exactly based on that premise. It was
Speaker 1: so funny. I was watching this was Sue last night.
Speaker 1: She's like, of course, I mean, she goes Everybody Loves
Speaker 1: Raymond should have been called Everybody Loves Raymond except his
Speaker 1: wife because she's like, he's just I hate this guy
Speaker 1: I'm with and he's lucky to be with. It was
Speaker 1: just it's such a like and it we'll get into
Speaker 1: it later, but it's so not Alan and Amy. It
Speaker 1: just wasn't what they were. They were the awesome hip parents,
Speaker 1: and they just reduced it and and they loved each other
Speaker 1: and they respected one another with I don't understand my
Speaker 1: wife of seventeen, You're like, oh yeah, sorry, but Tony's
Speaker 1: tie in this scene was marvelous. It was marvelous, and
Speaker 1: they're actually teaching, like the episode is. We've talked about
Speaker 1: this in a couple of episodes recently, yes, where the
Speaker 1: story is not integrated at all. They just teach something
Speaker 1: and then it moves on, whereas this one is like
Speaker 1: the book is perfect with Cyrano and what the storyline
Speaker 1: it really well. I do think I think that this
Speaker 1: is an episode that was clearly created because right like
Speaker 1: this is this is them seeing a guest cast, seeing
Speaker 1: a character characters Danny too, and recognizing, oh, we can
Speaker 1: write something for these people. And while I think it's
Speaker 1: a great episode and are not a great episode, I
Speaker 1: do like the episode. It's a little bizarre how much
Speaker 1: it's focused on the bullies, Like it's you know, it
Speaker 1: becomes like Harley's character arc is more important than anybody else's,
Speaker 1: which is just a It just felt a little bizarre.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this feels like a different show suddenly,
Speaker 1: so here's the question, is it bizarre or god bless
Speaker 1: my dad? Was he right? And they were going to
Speaker 1: make the bullies a much bigger part of the show.
Speaker 1: And I mean, now they're getting girlfriends, they're getting storylines,
Speaker 1: they're getting backstories. I think they wanted to write to
Speaker 1: older characters. I think they definitely wanted to write to
Speaker 1: you know. And I think they saw these actors being amazing,
Speaker 1: and they were like, how can we give them an
Speaker 1: episode at least, you know? And I think I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that this is one of the
Speaker 1: episodes is why so many people love their characters, you know,
Speaker 1: because they weren't in that many more like and yet
Speaker 1: developed such a part of the show for people. So
Speaker 1: I think it's because of this episode. But I definitely
Speaker 1: felt a little weird, Like I definitely was like, well,
Speaker 1: now I don't know what what whirld I'm in like,
Speaker 1: And I wonder if they felt that too, and they
Speaker 1: were like, all right, well we did that. Now let's
Speaker 1: go back to the sort of safer ground of you know.
Speaker 1: But whatever a show can grow, show can change, So
Speaker 1: it should have kept going in that direction. And maybe
Speaker 1: your dad was right, Maybe it should have maybe ye
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe I shouldn't be here at his name,
Speaker 1: cunninghamed you out of there? Yeah they did. Chucky cunningham
Speaker 1: me out of there upstairs in my basketball and you
Speaker 1: never saw me again? Or oh man, Well, mister Turner
Speaker 1: says men and women see romance differently, and that men
Speaker 1: have trouble figuring out what women find romantic. And then
Speaker 1: we're in the Matthew's backyard. Alan is hiding a giant
Speaker 1: wrap gift for Amy at mister Phoenie's house. Alan, who
Speaker 1: was wheeling it out of Phoenie these reveals it's a
Speaker 1: trash compactor for their anniversary. Phoenie, who was slightly disturbed,
Speaker 1: says diamonds might have been a better way to go
Speaker 1: for a gift. Alan says Amy has been wanting the
Speaker 1: compactor for years, so Phoenie wishes him a happy anniversary
Speaker 1: and hopes they have others. Are either of your wives
Speaker 1: women who want some kind of romantic, extra thoughtful gift
Speaker 1: over like, would they find a practical gift fine and happy?
Speaker 1: Would they be happy with it? Or would your wife
Speaker 1: want something else? Again? Watching this with my wife last night,
Speaker 1: she churned me. She's like one of the best gifts
Speaker 1: you ever got me was that vacuum cleaner I asked
Speaker 1: you for. Yeah, yeah, she loves it. So she's like
Speaker 1: very non romantic that said, she does. You know I've
Speaker 1: given sometimes with both of us, it's like whenever we've
Speaker 1: given each other, like a very transactional gift, like that
Speaker 1: thing that you ask for that helps you do whatever,
Speaker 1: there is something a little like yeah about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we prefer experiences. The most of what we do is
Speaker 1: like getting rite each other something on our birthdays, like
Speaker 1: we rte each other a note, you know, a nice card,
Speaker 1: and that's always more important than whatever we buy. But yeah,
Speaker 1: Christmas time there's always like a super practical gift of course,
Speaker 1: and another one. But yeah, no, Sue is very romantic.
Speaker 1: I mean she likes the regular stuff, you know, she
Speaker 1: likes jewelry, she likes perfume, she likes shoes, she's but
Speaker 1: she's also very practical. So it's like we need this
Speaker 1: and I want it. Oh great, awesome, we got a
Speaker 1: new washing machine. Huge gift. That's that's amazing. Yeah. Have
Speaker 1: you guys ever had a trash compactor? Though? Yes? Really
Speaker 1: growing up? See I had one growing up and it's
Speaker 1: my parents still have it, and no one can figure
Speaker 1: out where the garbage goes in their house. It's always
Speaker 1: a big fact because because the door locks shut when
Speaker 1: it's compacting, and then it likes so like people can't
Speaker 1: access it's like this weird cabinet drawer. It's I mean,
Speaker 1: I always thought it was kind of normal growing up,
Speaker 1: and now I like, go back to my parents house
Speaker 1: and I have to explain if anybody's there visiting. I'm like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just give me your garbage. I'll figure it out for
Speaker 1: you because it's so weird. Well, we'll get into a
Speaker 1: weird garbage thing a little later in the episode that
Speaker 1: also makes no sense whatsoever. Oh, okay, I love the garbage.
Speaker 1: Good garbage conversation. We do love a good garbage conversation.
Speaker 1: It's so Then we are in the Matthew's kitchen and
Speaker 1: Alan calls up to Amy for their dinner reservations, and
Speaker 1: Eric and Corey are sitting in a kitchen when they
Speaker 1: realize it's their parents' anniversary. They hand Alan money to
Speaker 1: put their names on the card for Amy's gift. Amy
Speaker 1: comes down wearing a very cool pantsuit. She looks like
Speaker 1: a magician's assist. Love it. I thought this was so
Speaker 1: ahead of its time. I was like, oh, yes, for like,
Speaker 1: this would be like a great like red carpet outfit
Speaker 1: for someone. It look like she was at a circus.
Speaker 1: To me, I thought it was keeping a lying it
Speaker 1: was Sarah Margot. It's killing it. I was just like, yes,
Speaker 1: she's making even more interesting. Yeah, like she's taking bold
Speaker 1: choices and yeah, and I literally wrote, that's a magician's assistant.
Speaker 1: I think it looks great. So I thought it looked
Speaker 1: really cool. Um so uh ame. Allan is very excited.
Speaker 1: He's got a cute little jump about him, but Amy
Speaker 1: seems disappointed. Eric reads the card and says the gift
Speaker 1: is just from Alan, just Allen, nobody else, and Alan
Speaker 1: asks if she likes it, and she says. She says
Speaker 1: a trash compactor would be a lovely gift for say
Speaker 1: a Tuesday. Alan goes into like Tim Allen home improvement
Speaker 1: camp by caveman bit why wrong, oog no sleep in
Speaker 1: cave tonight. He knows he messed up, Phoene was right.
Speaker 1: Amy walks off disappointed. Also, is she getting him a gift?
Speaker 1: Apparently not? Yeah, Also, everybody else knows. Even Eric at
Speaker 1: seventeen knows it's a bad gift. Only Allen, yeah, doesn't
Speaker 1: get that this is a bad gift. Like really, the
Speaker 1: only only guy there who doesn't get it is the
Speaker 1: one who's been married to her for seventeen years on.
Speaker 1: It's just so lame and lazy. Yeah, it's just it
Speaker 1: just goes right back into that same sitcom trope. And
Speaker 1: that was the cool thing about them is they weren't
Speaker 1: that at all. It's just the easy I mean, this
Speaker 1: is like we are two stages over from Home Improvement,
Speaker 1: which is killing the number one show. Everyone loves it.
Speaker 1: So I just think they just, you know, they're they're
Speaker 1: they're caving to the lowest common denomena with the caveman voice.
Speaker 1: It's so bad. It's so I was just like a
Speaker 1: such a waste of rusty. It's such a waste of
Speaker 1: rusty to take to take that character that way. You know,
Speaker 1: Tell you guys a funny story. My parents met when
Speaker 1: they were fifteen. They are now divorced, but they were
Speaker 1: married for thirty years. They met when they were fifteen,
Speaker 1: after they had been dating for like a year maybe
Speaker 1: two years. For some holiday promise rings were very big
Speaker 1: back then, which is like the ring you get somebody
Speaker 1: before an engagement ring. It's like I promise that we're getting.
Speaker 1: We're going in that direction. And my mom all of
Speaker 1: her friends had promised rings. They were all in long
Speaker 1: term relationships. My mom was convinced for whatever the upcoming
Speaker 1: event was, if it was an anniversary or a Christmas
Speaker 1: I don't know that she was getting a promise ring.
Speaker 1: And she was like, I know it, it's coming. And
Speaker 1: my dad brings her a big box and her thought was,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, how cute. He put my ring in
Speaker 1: a big heavy box. It was a big heavy box
Speaker 1: and she opened it up and it was a bowling
Speaker 1: ball because they used to go bowling, and really cute,
Speaker 1: really sweet gift. And she was absolutely devastated and she
Speaker 1: burst into tears and he had no idea why. He
Speaker 1: was like, I don't understand, like you like bowling. Right,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that's a maybe a better storyline
Speaker 1: for a sixteen year old. Yeah, maybe better than for
Speaker 1: Alan Matthews married for seventeen years, you know exactly as
Speaker 1: I also think there's ways to do this same storyline,
Speaker 1: but just make it more clever, right, I agree, there
Speaker 1: could have I mean, and I feel like our show
Speaker 1: has done that before, where it has this sort of
Speaker 1: oblivion gatory storyline, but the characters are slightly elevated above it.
Speaker 1: You know, they could have been like her reaction is
Speaker 1: just to shut down, and then his reaction is to
Speaker 1: fall into caveman boys. What if they end up laughing
Speaker 1: about this or finding a way to like, you know,
Speaker 1: create the take the same situation, like you bought a
Speaker 1: dumb gift that didn't isn't what I really wanted and
Speaker 1: then make it funny or add layers to it instead
Speaker 1: of just making that the entire thing a lesson. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: Or every year Amy gets him the perfect gift and
Speaker 1: he keeps trying to strive to do it, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: how can you get the how can you one upper?
Speaker 1: That's what it's about, as opposed to this was just
Speaker 1: so I wo got wrong gifts, like oh god, really,
Speaker 1: I know. Yikes. Well, we're in the school hallway. Gloria
Speaker 1: new character Alert is trying to kiss Harley, but he
Speaker 1: said he's not in the mood and asked why she
Speaker 1: kept him waiting outside her house last night, And they
Speaker 1: are written like West Side Story Kid is so New
Speaker 1: York fiftiest kind of like, where is this? Where is
Speaker 1: this coming from? Where is this coming from? So what
Speaker 1: is happening here? So I know Michael Jacobs and the
Speaker 1: fellow writer's minds like, this is what adolescence is, which
Speaker 1: which is because I guess there watching those shows right,
Speaker 1: Happy Days kind of, I guess, But it's it is Greece,
Speaker 1: it is Bye Bye Birdie and West Side Story it's
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's frankly, just to me, that's just the
Speaker 1: hookiest thing I've ever seen. The great She's awesome, He's awesome. No,
Speaker 1: as far as the performances and the commitment, you know,
Speaker 1: Danny is just so good. But he and he, he
Speaker 1: is able to inhabit this character in I mean, all
Speaker 1: of them are able to inhabit these characters in such
Speaker 1: ways that really they shouldn't like Why why these characters
Speaker 1: are written this way in this tone is just kind
Speaker 1: of ridiculous to me, Like it's so, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't disagree, it was so it was there's a
Speaker 1: lot about this episode that just took you out of
Speaker 1: the kind of the normal show. And I didn't dislike you.
Speaker 1: I wasn't like this is the worst episode ever, but
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, that's jarring. Oh that's jarring. The
Speaker 1: big part of it is just how Harley is clearly
Speaker 1: twenty five. I mean he just comes across as such
Speaker 1: a grown up. Yeah, and you know, and then all
Speaker 1: the other sort of like, oh, they're gonna go beat
Speaker 1: us up, Like what does it look away? Really like
Speaker 1: this big guy is walking around the hallways and beating
Speaker 1: people up, Like, I just want a little more clarity.
Speaker 1: I want them a little bit more reality, some sense
Speaker 1: sense that like this actually exists in the world. Instead
Speaker 1: it's it's so cartoony. Yeah, but you know, yeah, we
Speaker 1: know it's a sit I mean we keep saying it's
Speaker 1: a sitcom. We know it's a sitcom. We know it's
Speaker 1: a sitcom for younger people. But that does not stop
Speaker 1: you from eventually looking and going, maybe this is a
Speaker 1: little far with the kind of voices and the way
Speaker 1: even they're dressed, and I mean they're literally the only
Speaker 1: thing they're not doing snapping and breaking into song, which
Speaker 1: they should have. That would have been great. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think we're literally I mean, I think part of what
Speaker 1: we're reacting to is just them being centered to you know,
Speaker 1: it's like it's fine when they are like, oh, the
Speaker 1: camera catches them on the side of the hallway and
Speaker 1: they have there. They're like half a page run, right,
Speaker 1: But now that we're doing a whole episode around these characters,
Speaker 1: I find it tonally jarring, Like their lack of reality,
Speaker 1: their lack of groundedness. Besides Danny's performance when he's with
Speaker 1: Betsy later, which is great, yeah, I mean, but the
Speaker 1: character itself, the activities of these characters is just absurd,
Speaker 1: and so it's hard. It's hard to have that be
Speaker 1: the center of the entire episode. It was so Gloria
Speaker 1: says he honked last night and didn't even come to
Speaker 1: the door, which was rude, and Harley says he didn't
Speaker 1: go in because her father was hanging by the door.
Speaker 1: She says that was her mother. Harley says, well, then
Speaker 1: he definitely doesn't want to meet her father. Joey jumps
Speaker 1: in to try to stop their fighting, but they brush
Speaker 1: him off. Harley asks why Frankie's been so quiet and
Speaker 1: he he says he's just trying to have some quiet time.
Speaker 1: And then Corey and Sean are making their way down
Speaker 1: the hall. Is so good in this episode. That moment
Speaker 1: is just like just yeah, just he's so committed and yeah,
Speaker 1: he's so believable as exactly this guy. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: really a great moment. And uh, Corey and Sean are
Speaker 1: walking down the hall and they say that the mac
Speaker 1: and cheese has more grease than Harley's hair, and then
Speaker 1: they run into Harley and then we get that big
Speaker 1: cute gasp from the two of you, that kind of
Speaker 1: what do you call this? The screech the gap? I
Speaker 1: trying to remember how it was written in the script.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I think it's I would call it
Speaker 1: a gasp. Yeah. I also love how you're shocked to
Speaker 1: run into Harley where the place he always is, Like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing here? Harley tells Corey to touch
Speaker 1: his hair, and though Corey says it's dry as a bone,
Speaker 1: he slips and falls trying to lean against the lockers.
Speaker 1: Harley gives him a quarter to call parents and say goodbye.
Speaker 1: Corey tries to avoid beating a beating with some jokes,
Speaker 1: So you guys try to fly out of the hallway
Speaker 1: like angels. Gloria asks Harley if he's sure he wants
Speaker 1: to beat Cory up. She thinks he's funny. Sean sweet
Speaker 1: talks Gloria, and then Glory convinces Harley to go easy
Speaker 1: on the boys, and then Harley instead just gives Frankie
Speaker 1: the okay to beat up Corey and Sean like a pinata,
Speaker 1: and then we are You. Guys are pushed into the
Speaker 1: school cafeteria. Frankie has moved them into the lunchroom, and
Speaker 1: Corey and Sean are trying to get out of a beating.
Speaker 1: Frankie gives them two options. First is that they die,
Speaker 1: and the second is that they do him a favor. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the boys pick number two, and Frankie says, I Frankie Stacchino,
Speaker 1: am in love. Oh, Frankie wants Corey and Sean to
Speaker 1: help him woo her. She's the most beautiful woman he's
Speaker 1: ever seen. You are great, So Funny's a great bit. Yes,
Speaker 1: it was awesome. I love it. I felt like we
Speaker 1: could have had that same bit that was me in
Speaker 1: the opening when talking about dip what what what what
Speaker 1: is this word? Yeah, but loved that with the with
Speaker 1: the wooing so cute. By the way, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you see the posters behind but there seems at
Speaker 1: this school to always be a PEP rally. Oh it's
Speaker 1: almost every episode. There's a PEP rally on Thursday. Har
Speaker 1: admit something. I don't know what a PEP rally. I
Speaker 1: don't need you've never been to Danielle with all your
Speaker 1: high school pep rallies. I mean, there were things that
Speaker 1: we did in the school auditorium that were like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what is pep. Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 1: Like it was you'd go to the gym and the
Speaker 1: different classes would be there and the cheerleaders would come
Speaker 1: out and they would rally the school spirit for the
Speaker 1: big game or the big whatever. But you'd have a
Speaker 1: couple of year. It wasn't like a PEP rally every week, right,
Speaker 1: So it was I mean you'd sit there and you'd,
Speaker 1: you know, the freshman you would yell stuff at the
Speaker 1: sophomore is a softig and then you do like a
Speaker 1: school kind of whatever. And now I think you also
Speaker 1: grew up in West Side story. I did not. I
Speaker 1: wish that would have been cool. I do remember there
Speaker 1: being like assemblies, that's what we called them. There would
Speaker 1: be a school assembly and everyone like a fun get
Speaker 1: together everybody yelling, and maybe I missed school. I only
Speaker 1: was in school, you know, on our hiatus weeks and
Speaker 1: then from March until June. So it's possible they had
Speaker 1: them and I just wasn't around for its. Yeah, Or
Speaker 1: maybe I did go to a bunch of them all.
Speaker 1: Maybe people from high school reach out to me. Have
Speaker 1: you just seen me at a PEP rally? Maybe I
Speaker 1: was there and I just don't remember. They were a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. But when I show up to him now,
Speaker 1: people look at you weird. Yeah, they're like you in
Speaker 1: the trench coat. Yeah, exactly. So Frankie knows that Corey
Speaker 1: is a good talker, and girls seem to dig Sean,
Speaker 1: who is having trouble understanding what the word WU means.
Speaker 1: Corey says Harley might be able to help him more
Speaker 1: with this, more than they can do. So Frankie says, okay,
Speaker 1: no problem, I'll go ahead and kill you. Sean says
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to die before he knows what woo means.
Speaker 1: So cute, I'm telling you the dumb Sean thing. This
Speaker 1: this episode has this weird dynamic. It's like Corey and
Speaker 1: Sean in a voice I was I was always confused
Speaker 1: as to like, why we're treated as one character when
Speaker 1: we're not really different and we have different skill sets,
Speaker 1: and it's I thought it was obvious that, like, I
Speaker 1: can flirt with Gloria in that last scene, and so
Speaker 1: I'm going to be the one to flirt and like,
Speaker 1: but then Corey's the one who has the whole serrano
Speaker 1: lesson at the end. I was just confused. I think
Speaker 1: I'm just handling you as a unit. It's like, Corey
Speaker 1: and Sean do this. Now, Corey and Sean do that. Now,
Speaker 1: You're just I think the truth is they wanted it
Speaker 1: to just be Ben because it's Corey show and it
Speaker 1: has to be boy. But it doesn't make any sense
Speaker 1: that Corey is good at talking to girls. It doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense. He's super awkward. He doesn't know how
Speaker 1: to do this. Yeah, he can't have him be it.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a super big purpose in getting Fran
Speaker 1: together with Gloria, but he is. He is part of
Speaker 1: the resolution for Harley about his parents. So it's almost like, Sean,
Speaker 1: help me fall help this girl fall in love with me.
Speaker 1: Sean and Corey get me out of the problem it's
Speaker 1: going to cause with Harley, Oh, they're a good talker.
Speaker 1: So because that is the way it ends up working out,
Speaker 1: and that's what he says. You're a good talker, and
Speaker 1: you're you're a good talker and you're really good with girls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so maybe that's what it is. It's like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so he got Cyrano and Syrano's lawyer, right, which is
Speaker 1: a way better way of phrasing yeah, that would have
Speaker 1: been you. Yeah, because it's the idea that he because
Speaker 1: he's not a good talker in the sense that it's
Speaker 1: it's that he's a good thinker, arguer or yeah, debater
Speaker 1: maybe yeah, yeah, a good lawyer. That's it is. It's
Speaker 1: a good lawyer. Yeah. And I think part of the
Speaker 1: reason they couldn't set it up better is because they
Speaker 1: wanted it to be a reveal who the girl was,
Speaker 1: because they could if he came right out and said, listen,
Speaker 1: I need your help to keep this under wraps, or
Speaker 1: exactly if he came right out and said, I've got
Speaker 1: a crush on Harley's girlfriend, I'm going to need your
Speaker 1: help having her fall in love with me, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to need your help when Harley finds out, Like
Speaker 1: that's a great setup for what your each of your
Speaker 1: roles are, but it isn't as good of a reveal
Speaker 1: that the girl he's in love with is Gloria. So
Speaker 1: we're in the matthews living room. Alan peeks down the
Speaker 1: stairs to see if Amy is in the kitchen. She is.
Speaker 1: He nervously says he helped Morgan clean her room and
Speaker 1: he cleaned out the gutters. He's obviously very much trying
Speaker 1: to save face. Alan asks Amy how she's doing, and
Speaker 1: she chops the lettuce with a sharp knife. She's not happy,
Speaker 1: won't even talk about what's bothering her. Apparently didn't talk
Speaker 1: about it all night. Yeah, I mean that's it's like you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's now all of a sudden between Alan and Amy.
Speaker 1: There's no communication, right, He's like a little child and
Speaker 1: out exactly, which is so not them. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: won't harp on it, but it really bothered me the
Speaker 1: whole episode. It just was a complete change for me. Yep,
Speaker 1: it's cheap. Alan says he will take the trash out,
Speaker 1: and he then bolts, and then we're in the Matthew's
Speaker 1: backyard mister Finnie's gardening and says the trash bag Alan
Speaker 1: is holding sure looks like a fluffy, non compacted bag
Speaker 1: of garbage. Alan says he won't be installing the compactor
Speaker 1: in this lifetime, admitting she did not like it. He says,
Speaker 1: the garbage conversation I wanted to have, Oh, okay, who
Speaker 1: just sits down and takes the bag of garbage that
Speaker 1: they're holding and puts it on their lap? Who does that?
Speaker 1: Who just holds a big bag of garbage on their conversation.
Speaker 1: It's a very tiny bag of garbage. It's enough to
Speaker 1: where most people would be like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna do, take the nasty garbage from the kitchen,
Speaker 1: mind you, with all the slimy stuff, right, and hold
Speaker 1: it on my lap while I have a conversation. It
Speaker 1: just it was it was like, what is he doing?
Speaker 1: It was very strange. Oh, I mean true. Maybe they
Speaker 1: had a composter, so maybe he didn't have slimy stuff
Speaker 1: in his trash. Maybe it's just maybe he was composting
Speaker 1: his food. I don't know, I have no I have
Speaker 1: no backup for that. Alan says he doesn't understand the
Speaker 1: trash compactor cost more than her engagement ring, and she
Speaker 1: asked for it. Phoene says that's not an argument he
Speaker 1: would recommend using, and mister Phoenie sarcastically says the gift
Speaker 1: was a no brainer because Amy asked for it and
Speaker 1: Alan went out and got it. He explains to Alan
Speaker 1: that it was the easy way out because he didn't
Speaker 1: have to sit around and think about Amy or the
Speaker 1: things that he loves about her. Alan says, yeah, he
Speaker 1: missed that exit for sure. Alan asks if there's a
Speaker 1: way he can back up, and then Phoenie says, on
Speaker 1: the husband Highway, there's very little forward traffic, just millions
Speaker 1: of well intentioned men backing up frantically. I did like
Speaker 1: having Phoenie given us Oh, I love it. Felt this
Speaker 1: felt this felt very like one of the better Phoenie
Speaker 1: moments from season two. Yeah, the set was cheap, but
Speaker 1: having Bill dispense advice, it's just it's so good. But
Speaker 1: the next thing he says is pretty amazing, and I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that I ever heard it, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if we ever get into it anymore. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: he alludes to the fact that he was married. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think we do get into it because I think
Speaker 1: people have mentioned that he had a wife, Like we
Speaker 1: developed that later, but this time, well, I think they
Speaker 1: must come up. It must come up when Phoenie starts
Speaker 1: dating the Dean. I'm sure there's some sort of history
Speaker 1: about why he's never been in you know, yeah, why
Speaker 1: it's been why we've never seen him in a relationship,
Speaker 1: or you know those kinds of things. Um. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: Phoene admits he's been on that highway before, and he
Speaker 1: closes out a really nice scene between Rusty and Belle
Speaker 1: that felt really good. Yeah. Well, then we're in the
Speaker 1: Matthews showing with the garbage. That's right. Then we're in
Speaker 1: the Matthews living room. Eric says high to an entering
Speaker 1: Corey and Sean, who walk into the house with Frankie.
Speaker 1: When Eric sees the enforcer in his house, he is terrified.
Speaker 1: Frankie used to steal his lunch money at school. Actually
Speaker 1: not as lunch money, as lunch lunch. Yes, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I actually love this little finding little background out about Eric.
Speaker 1: That and I love my Charlie Brown sweater. I loved
Speaker 1: that Charlie Brown sweater. Oh, I wore that forever. Interesting
Speaker 1: that Ben and I are in like hunting jackets, like
Speaker 1: we both are wearing like thirties Pennsylvania hunting jackets. It's
Speaker 1: very bizarre. But you also noticed that the entire episode,
Speaker 1: my leather Jacket is on Hartley. Yeah, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: isn't it crazy. It's they're trying to find They're trying
Speaker 1: to find this jacket at home at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I didn't realize it was on him the whole time. Like,
Speaker 1: and the fact that I inherited it is so bizarre.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of tells a story of its own.
Speaker 1: The jacket and I've got a pinky ring on the
Speaker 1: man jewelry has officially started for me. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, you said, you've said that many episodes ago.
Speaker 1: We are deep in man jewelry. Yeah, we're getting there.
Speaker 1: I would give just about anything to find your leather jacket.
Speaker 1: To find this leather jacket, the the Eric Harley, whoever Sean,
Speaker 1: whoever stole it. I mean, I wonder. I wish so
Speaker 1: badly that we had a picture of the inside of it,
Speaker 1: that there could be like listen. So the truth is
Speaker 1: not any version of it because I ended up I
Speaker 1: had I went out and bought my own version of
Speaker 1: the jacket, was the same brand from the same store,
Speaker 1: and it had, but mine was greener because it was
Speaker 1: more war Stop stop, stop, stopped. Are you telling me
Speaker 1: right now that the one that was stolen is not
Speaker 1: the one we see on TV. No, one that was
Speaker 1: stolen is the one we see on TV because I
Speaker 1: treated mine. Remember, we had to give them something, right,
Speaker 1: So in the Disney vault somewhere is the jacket that
Speaker 1: was mine, which is basically the same. It had laces
Speaker 1: on the side, had lace up sides. It was kind
Speaker 1: of cooler in that way, but otherwise it was virtually
Speaker 1: the same jacket. Was the same brand brand, Yes, because
Speaker 1: what I did is I went to Sarah or at
Speaker 1: that point it would have been Julie, I guess, and said,
Speaker 1: where I know? How do they know? I knew where
Speaker 1: to get it, at what store in LA that they
Speaker 1: had this brand of vintage leather jackets. I bought the
Speaker 1: exact same jacket I had in my personal life for
Speaker 1: like years, and then when the show ended, I wanted
Speaker 1: the one from the show, so I traded it in.
Speaker 1: So it's still sitting in a vault somewhere, that version,
Speaker 1: which would be the same brand. But no, I was
Speaker 1: on a plane the other day and I saw somebody
Speaker 1: wearing a woman wearing a jacket that from behind was
Speaker 1: this leather jacket. I almost was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I have to ask her what brand it is, But
Speaker 1: then she turned around and it had like the more
Speaker 1: traditional biker callers, like the biker jacket callers. And that's
Speaker 1: what so great about it as a jacket is that
Speaker 1: it's a biker jacket that doesn't have those weird zipper
Speaker 1: open collar things. It's more just a regular like, yeah,
Speaker 1: leather jacket on the front. Sarah might still has a
Speaker 1: biker jacket quality. Well. We also did have a conversation
Speaker 1: about going to the vault. We may need to revisit
Speaker 1: that Disney Vault conversation. We're going to be able to
Speaker 1: find it. We'll figure it out, okay. And if you
Speaker 1: if somebody does have it, if they're if they're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't believe I stole this thing,
Speaker 1: just let's just send a picture of it and let
Speaker 1: us know it's okay with today. By the way, even
Speaker 1: if you didn't steal it, if it was in a
Speaker 1: pawn shop, you bought it, you bought in a vintage
Speaker 1: clothing store, I found it, you know, whatever, We're not
Speaker 1: gonna We're not gonna accuse you of stealing it, even
Speaker 1: if you are the thief um. Corey and Sean reassure
Speaker 1: Eric everything is fine, but Eric quickly goes upstairs after
Speaker 1: being called tuna, which is so cute, Tuna on wheat. Also,
Speaker 1: tuna was what he ed Helm's character calls Jim in
Speaker 1: the office, So even years before that became famous, Eric
Speaker 1: was tuna. First love it and know that that's huge.
Speaker 1: I love it. Sean asks if Frankie has ever tried
Speaker 1: to talk to the girl he likes, and Frankie just stutters,
Speaker 1: finding this idea very scary. Corey holds up a pillow
Speaker 1: to his face to pretend he's the girl, and Sean
Speaker 1: feeds lines to Frankie to say like, I can't take
Speaker 1: my eyes off you, and Corey responds in a high
Speaker 1: pitched voice behind the pillow, thank you. That's very nice.
Speaker 1: He's so funny in the scene. Ethan is so funny
Speaker 1: in the scene, just how nervous he is and all
Speaker 1: the when they first say you know, you've got to
Speaker 1: You've got to talk to me, He's like, nah, I
Speaker 1: don't have it too much shirts because I tried to
Speaker 1: record a little bit, but Indy was not into it.
Speaker 1: But when we watched this episode together and the only
Speaker 1: real laughs for Andy were Ethan. Everything out of Ethan's mouth,
Speaker 1: Indy loved. Not only that, he also said out loud, oh,
Speaker 1: so this is like the book that they were talking
Speaker 1: about at the beginning. He like, you will it was
Speaker 1: very good, like very clear, he understood, like this is
Speaker 1: what that's what you know, that dynamic. The story is
Speaker 1: reflecting the book that the teacher was talking about. So
Speaker 1: really did its job. But no, Ethan was Indy's favorite
Speaker 1: by far. Everything out of his mouth got a law
Speaker 1: Yeah he is, He's wonderful. So good. Well. Sean says
Speaker 1: that Frankie is doing great, and Frankie says the guys
Speaker 1: need to come help him, and Corey jokes, what are
Speaker 1: you gonna do? Hide us in your locker? Optic optical flip.
Speaker 1: It was so nice to see. I know, I loved it.
Speaker 1: Corey and Sean are smushed into Frankie's locker, which is
Speaker 1: now apparently Frankie's locker. It's been every originally it's been Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's basically the it's the best blocking Let's be honest,
Speaker 1: it's the best locker location for blocking. It's the locker
Speaker 1: room of requirement. Yes, exactly, so um it is a
Speaker 1: rotating locker. Gloria comes up to Frankie and they start talking. Corey,
Speaker 1: in the darkness of the clothes locker, asks if asks
Speaker 1: if that voice sounds familiar, without fully knowing who the
Speaker 1: girl is. Sean starts feeding great lines to Frankie, but
Speaker 1: Frankie is doing terribly because he can't quite hear them,
Speaker 1: which is a very funny bit. Yeah, and then Sean
Speaker 1: yells out I love you, and Frankie's says it, only
Speaker 1: to then go off script from what Shaun is saying
Speaker 1: and he woos her perfectly what Yeah, he knows. Frankie
Speaker 1: and Gloria decide to go get a burger together, and
Speaker 1: Corey realizes that they just set Frankie up with Harley's
Speaker 1: girlfriend and that is bad news. And then there's like
Speaker 1: a great suspenseful music cue just starts with like What's
Speaker 1: gonna happen music, and then we're in the school hallway.
Speaker 1: Corey and Shaun are panicking thinking about what Harley will
Speaker 1: do to them after he finds out what they did.
Speaker 1: Sean says, no one saw them, there were no witnesses,
Speaker 1: and without that, it's all just circumcised evidence. Wow, I
Speaker 1: know this joke felt very right adult. Yeah, I'm glad
Speaker 1: they slipped it in there. Yeah, it was a good joke.
Speaker 1: It was a good joke. Sean thinks about getting plastic
Speaker 1: surgery or dressing up as their female cousins to hide
Speaker 1: like his uncle Mary does, which is a great joke too.
Speaker 1: All the richness of Sean's life, We're just starting to
Speaker 1: really get every end of the uncles. I love the uncles.
Speaker 1: Harley comes down the hallway and asks, didn't I tell
Speaker 1: Frankie to kill you? And then asks if they've seen Gloria.
Speaker 1: Sean says no, they were in the locker the whole time,
Speaker 1: and Harley asks the whole time of what. This leads
Speaker 1: them to run away, but Harley grabs them as they
Speaker 1: enter the boy's bathroom, and then we're in Chubbies, which
Speaker 1: is the only place anyone who wants to grab a
Speaker 1: burger would possibly go. Yeah, of course, of course there
Speaker 1: was no vis in this world. You're right, exactly, There's
Speaker 1: only Chubbies. So Gloria and Frankie are sitting down and
Speaker 1: Frankie's reciting lines of poetry to her, and Gloria is
Speaker 1: loving it. Harley is standing with Corey and Seawan now
Speaker 1: at the entrance and says he feels betrayed by Gloria
Speaker 1: and Frankie. He feels vulnerable, so he feels like he
Speaker 1: may have to kill someone. Harley kicks everyone out of
Speaker 1: Chubbies except for Frankie, La, Sean and Corey, and Frankie
Speaker 1: says he can explain, and he then just says exactly
Speaker 1: what he did. He stole his girl, but he is
Speaker 1: but a pawn of love Glorias as Frankie made her
Speaker 1: feel special for a change and said nice things to her.
Speaker 1: Harley argues that he buys stuff for her three tires
Speaker 1: because the guy came back, which that was funny. I
Speaker 1: thought that a funny. There's more, I'm wondering about why
Speaker 1: and Sean are in the scene. Yeah, yeah, what are
Speaker 1: we doing here? It's like, what am I here for? Well?
Speaker 1: But then the worst part about this is we go
Speaker 1: from here to the Matthews kitchen and Corey shows up
Speaker 1: like twenty minutes later, and you're like, what, but there
Speaker 1: were they together? It's now it's bizarre. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a reach. And I do love Chubby set so much
Speaker 1: though I know it's interesting because what I think part
Speaker 1: of my love for it is that I loved acting
Speaker 1: in Chubbies more than I like watching it. Does that
Speaker 1: make sense, Like yeah, but I think it's because you
Speaker 1: always had a place to be, Like we have those boots,
Speaker 1: the counter, you had like the high set high tables. Yeah,
Speaker 1: flood in front of you, so there's always kind of
Speaker 1: raising the beast. The hallway is the hardest thing to
Speaker 1: act in, right, The hallway was like that's why they
Speaker 1: had to create lockers and like empty space. It's empty
Speaker 1: space you got to fill with your whole body and
Speaker 1: you got to stand there and you know. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: it's funny because now I think my favorite set as
Speaker 1: far as watching is the kitchen. I love scenes in
Speaker 1: the kitchen. Um just it's clean, it's open, like Chubbies
Speaker 1: is a little too crowded and a little too like
Speaker 1: too many of the same colors on top of one another,
Speaker 1: so you don't feel the depth that you actually had
Speaker 1: in that place. It is very brown. It's very brown
Speaker 1: and red and red, and yeah, it doesn't feel deep.
Speaker 1: It's I want the set to be deeper looking at it,
Speaker 1: but when I was in it, I loved it. I
Speaker 1: loved food in Chubbies. And we haven't even ever seen
Speaker 1: the extension of Chubbies where the pool tables, like, we
Speaker 1: haven't even gotten there yet. But remember there was that
Speaker 1: whole other room. I didn't remember that until you just said.
Speaker 1: The other thing that was great about it is there
Speaker 1: were plenty of places to cross to you could there
Speaker 1: were there were ways in places for you to go
Speaker 1: when you needed to leave and then come back. That
Speaker 1: made sense. That felt good, like you had options as
Speaker 1: an actor and with what you could be doing there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I agree with you. So this was the
Speaker 1: first time that Indy really understood what multi camera is.
Speaker 1: He was like, he's like, he's like, Dad, it's just
Speaker 1: kind of bad. And I said, what do you mean
Speaker 1: and he said, well, the camera never moves. He's like,
Speaker 1: it's always like He's like, you know, never, He's like,
Speaker 1: when somebody looks over here, it doesn't the camera. It
Speaker 1: couldn't explain it exactly. And I was like, well, this
Speaker 1: is multi caam versus single cam and he was like,
Speaker 1: I think I And I was like, okay, So I
Speaker 1: drew a diagram after this episode and I drew it
Speaker 1: and didn't tell him what it was. I was like,
Speaker 1: what is that. He's like, that's the kitchen. I was like, right,
Speaker 1: I was like, this is where the cameras are. There
Speaker 1: was an he sitting in bleachers behind, you know, behind
Speaker 1: the cameras here, and he was like oh. And I
Speaker 1: think he finally got it because he's never been on
Speaker 1: a set or he was too young when he was so, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's never seen like the fact that there's no fourth wall,
Speaker 1: so his brain still I thought he got this based
Speaker 1: on our earlier conversations, but he really didn't. Didn't quite
Speaker 1: get wrap his head around it. It's hard, it's it's different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a whole different thing. So it makes perfect sense
Speaker 1: to us, right, Like has he ever had a play? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's been to plays, right, So that's basically I should
Speaker 1: have just been able to say, like, it's like when
Speaker 1: you're watching a play, right, right, Yeah, Like the camera
Speaker 1: is where you are when you're watching a play, right right. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Corey compares their argument the argument between Glory and
Speaker 1: Harley with his parents current trash compactor fight, and Harley
Speaker 1: asks how his parents m Harley asks if his parents
Speaker 1: are going to split up, and Corey says no, they
Speaker 1: always work it out, even though he doesn't know how.
Speaker 1: And here's a piece that I'll say. Now, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Maybe I just didn't give it enough thought, but I
Speaker 1: do not understand what the conclusion is that Harley comes
Speaker 1: to about his own relationship in this situation. And I
Speaker 1: wasn't sure whether or not that meant he was Did
Speaker 1: he feel like he always he has to stick it
Speaker 1: out with Gloria He obviously doesn't because at the end
Speaker 1: of the episode she's with Frankie. I do not understand
Speaker 1: what Harley ends up taking from them from this scene
Speaker 1: or the whole of it, the horrible episode, the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, Amy's Yeah, isn't it Isn't it supposed to
Speaker 1: be like it's about making your partner happy and what
Speaker 1: makes your partner happy, and this case was her being
Speaker 1: with someone else, so he let her go knowing that
Speaker 1: she was going to be happier with Frankie. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think the charitable reading is that he needed to have
Speaker 1: empathy and understanding of her mentality. The less charitable reading
Speaker 1: is men just don't understand women and they got to
Speaker 1: put their heads. Whole episode Woman's Mind, and how weird
Speaker 1: it is that women think differently than me. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: women always get women always get men. It's just the
Speaker 1: other way around. Okay, So we're in the Matthews kitchen.
Speaker 1: Harley knocks on the back door of the house and
Speaker 1: Amy answers. He says he's a school chum of her
Speaker 1: little squirmy or squirrelly son. And it's really here where
Speaker 1: you realize Danny is a contemporary of Amy and Allen
Speaker 1: and not a contemporary of Koran. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: you're like getting Phoenie in play makeup and costume jewelry.
Speaker 1: This was like a big pitch for the episode, right,
Speaker 1: He's like, how can we get the bullis to the house?
Speaker 1: And we have right Frankie at the house, and now
Speaker 1: we have Danny, and I think it's I think it's
Speaker 1: a noble idea. It's super awkward because he is so
Speaker 1: clearly Betsy's like contemporary, and they just he just reads
Speaker 1: because I think he was only twenty five twenty six,
Speaker 1: but he looks even older than that. Yeah, he feels
Speaker 1: his stage presence is so much confident. He just feels
Speaker 1: like a thirty to thirty five year old, and she
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's super awkward. Yeah, and it plays
Speaker 1: as a joke when he's with you and Ben, it
Speaker 1: plays is weird when he's with other adults because it's like, well,
Speaker 1: that's where you belong. Yeah, so it's yeah, it was
Speaker 1: very strange. Hell, he kills He's so he's wonderful. Harley
Speaker 1: asks Amy for advice about his relationship because he has
Speaker 1: no one else to turn to. It's four o'clock in
Speaker 1: the afternoon, which means his mom is out cold. Corey
Speaker 1: told him they have a similar fight going on right
Speaker 1: now and Harley needs some help. And then Eric, in
Speaker 1: a killer turtleneck yeah it was a white turtleneck, comes
Speaker 1: around the bat from the backyard and sees Harley in
Speaker 1: the kitchen from the backyard and runs into same save Amy. No.
Speaker 1: Amy says everything is under control and offers Harley more
Speaker 1: tea just to smidge. He responds, which is so cute.
Speaker 1: Amy sends Eric up Dares so she can continue privately
Speaker 1: chatting with Harley. Harley asks Amy what women want, and
Speaker 1: Amy says just to feel appreciated. He says, well, he's
Speaker 1: not good with feelings and emotions. And all that Ricky
Speaker 1: Lake stuff. Harley asks, if she's my girlfriend, then why
Speaker 1: does Gloria need to feel appreciated all the time? And then,
Speaker 1: perfectly timed, Alan comes in and says, that's how you
Speaker 1: show people you care about them, and Harley explains, well,
Speaker 1: if he needs to find out what she wants, well,
Speaker 1: Gloria wants Frankie now. So Corey frantically comes in and
Speaker 1: tells Harley to take him and spare his parents. Harley says,
Speaker 1: don't worry. Death takes a holiday and he leaves. He
Speaker 1: almost steals the teacup, which I didn't know if that
Speaker 1: was a purposeful thing, like I'm going to steal this
Speaker 1: cup or if he just okay, yeah, because then he
Speaker 1: turns around and he says, good eyes, eye, good eyes,
Speaker 1: Yeah you caught me. Yeah, so yeah, okay, I didn't
Speaker 1: yeah okay. Amy explains to a confused core that Harley
Speaker 1: just needed to get needed to get a little love advice,
Speaker 1: and then Alan pulls it out, a pearl necklace with
Speaker 1: eighteen pearls, one pearl for every year they've been married,
Speaker 1: and Amy says, that's very sweet, but they've only been
Speaker 1: married seventeen years and Alan says that it's an X
Speaker 1: one for the extra year that they weren't married, and
Speaker 1: she says, yeah, that was a good year. And then
Speaker 1: they get into a hot and heavy makeout kiss as
Speaker 1: Corey tries to figure out what that means. And no,
Speaker 1: she doesn't get him a gift. There's no gift for Alan.
Speaker 1: This is a scene that could have used a rewrite.
Speaker 1: Yeah really, I mean yeah, I mean, I feel like
Speaker 1: this scene reveals all the sort of weaknesses of the episode.
Speaker 1: But I think they were just too stoked on the
Speaker 1: idea of having Harley in the kitchen. They just thought
Speaker 1: that was so funny and there was so but it
Speaker 1: just doesn't work. It's just awkward. And sometimes the big
Speaker 1: aspirations of Boy Meats World, which are some of the
Speaker 1: things that have given us some of our best episodes,
Speaker 1: are also the things that then give us some of
Speaker 1: our worst episodes because we have we take on more
Speaker 1: than we can chow. We have a fantastic idea, like
Speaker 1: getting the bullies in the house, Well, how are we
Speaker 1: going to do that? Well, what's the story to that?
Speaker 1: And then we try to shoehorn stories into the script
Speaker 1: and we're like, but we still only have twenty two minutes,
Speaker 1: and so you know, I'm I'm happy that that we
Speaker 1: have big aspirations for our recombo. Yeah, we're super ambitious.
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes there we end up walking away going like
Speaker 1: huh hmm, I'm not really sure that made a whole
Speaker 1: lot of sense. But there are there are still aspects
Speaker 1: of this episode that are, you know, incredible. Danny's performances, unbelievable,
Speaker 1: story is awesome. The idea that Frankie comes to Corey
Speaker 1: and Sean and they have to act, that's a great idea.
Speaker 1: And then I think the next idea that that Harley
Speaker 1: needs love advice, yes, and goes to the God. That's
Speaker 1: a that's like a hat on a hat for me.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's the problem. It's like they just shouldn't
Speaker 1: have had that aspect, and I probably would have been
Speaker 1: like if it had been more about Frankie and Gloria
Speaker 1: staying together and Hart, I don't know, but something about
Speaker 1: like I want to throw something weird at you, because
Speaker 1: it would have been a great scene if essentially the
Speaker 1: scene between Alan and Bill was between Bill and Harley. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if it was Phoenie and Harley and somehow Phoenie who's
Speaker 1: who teaches everybody. Then you would have taken something away
Speaker 1: from Betsy, who finally did a moment. But it's you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, it's there would have been something
Speaker 1: kind of interesting about Hard Phoenie together. Or had this
Speaker 1: been a spinoff show, we could those could have been
Speaker 1: two episodes. Frankie's in love with a girl and needs
Speaker 1: Corey and Sean to help him fall in love with
Speaker 1: a girl, not Harley's girlfriend, just a girl, and there's
Speaker 1: there's another conflict about who the girlfriend is. And then
Speaker 1: in a separate episode, Harley's having relationship problems and he
Speaker 1: ends up needing to go to Phoenie or the Matthews
Speaker 1: to get that kind of advice. If these were two
Speaker 1: totally different episodes, yeah, it would have been amazing. But
Speaker 1: what what show is this? What is this nineteen fifties
Speaker 1: meets World? I was just about to say, if that
Speaker 1: second episode, the b storyline is he's got to figure
Speaker 1: out how to love his girlfriend before the Big Rumble,
Speaker 1: then I think it'd be great. It's like, we gotta
Speaker 1: go down the mills for the Big Rumble and I
Speaker 1: got to fall in love with my girlfriend. Yeah exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so's we're talking about the grease in his hair. Yeah, yeah, man.
Speaker 1: So then then we're in the tag in the school cafeteria.
Speaker 1: Mister Turner tells Corey he liked his paper on Syrra No,
Speaker 1: and Corey says he is syran No and points to
Speaker 1: Frankie and Gloria, saying he put them together. Corey explains
Speaker 1: he helped Frankie woo Gloria, then asks if there's any
Speaker 1: extra credit for his work. Turner says no, but he
Speaker 1: wants to know what Corey learned, and Corey tells mister
Speaker 1: Turner love is something you can't take for granted and
Speaker 1: don't buy them tires or major appliances, and mister Turner
Speaker 1: says he's wise beyond his years with the subject of love.
Speaker 1: Sean then runs into Cory and exclaims that the girls
Speaker 1: volleyball team is running laps and they run off together
Speaker 1: to go watch oh maybe well boys will be Boys.
Speaker 1: So yeah, not my not my favorite episode, not my
Speaker 1: least favorite episode certainly, no, um, but I think because
Speaker 1: the concept was so good, yeah, it fell a little
Speaker 1: flat for me. Yeah. Also, I think of the three
Speaker 1: of us, will you are definitely the most offended by
Speaker 1: a dumb man storyline. I don't know, you don't. I
Speaker 1: don't like it, don't like it. I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I don't. It's just it's so I did you like
Speaker 1: Home did you hate Home Improvement when it was on?
Speaker 1: Or did you like it back then? No? I get
Speaker 1: I mean I got what it was going for. It's
Speaker 1: just such a one sided look at men right that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, It's just it's just the and again
Speaker 1: being such a fan of sitcom, just always doing the
Speaker 1: trope of like the big schlubs key to have or
Speaker 1: they were both horribly flawed. That's the thing that was
Speaker 1: so great is you were both horribly flawed, and it
Speaker 1: was it was brilliant. Um, but after a while where
Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, my dumb husband and it's
Speaker 1: like I'll never get my wife. It's like, seriously, this
Speaker 1: is again, we're doing this. Yeah, And if they started
Speaker 1: the show that way, that would be one thing. But
Speaker 1: we've talked about how Alan Niemi's relationship was. They were
Speaker 1: the different parents, they were the cool parents. They were
Speaker 1: figuring out how to parent together. And now this couple
Speaker 1: that was figuring out how to parent together, don't even
Speaker 1: talk about their own relationship like it, right, he was
Speaker 1: just weird. I don't know it was me, but you're right.
Speaker 1: I don't like the dumb man storyline. Yeah it does.
Speaker 1: It does because I don't consider myself a dumb man,
Speaker 1: and my mom and dad were never like that. And
Speaker 1: you know, doing it once or twice on a sitcom
Speaker 1: where it's like, that's that's what you're doing. You're doing okay, great,
Speaker 1: when it's then every show is starting to get like that,
Speaker 1: it's like, really, this is what we're doing. And according
Speaker 1: to Jim and Kevin, Jane and everybody loves Rayman, it
Speaker 1: was all that like these women were these men are
Speaker 1: just lucky to have these women who they didn't understand
Speaker 1: it all and it's like, oh, okay, I've just seen it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. We talked about how like, uh, like Seinfeld
Speaker 1: or at any great sitcom right, so often is built
Speaker 1: around this idea of like stating a thesis within the
Speaker 1: first scene, right like this is the way you do
Speaker 1: X y Z or this always happens when this happens.
Speaker 1: And I feel like gender roles are the easiest thing
Speaker 1: to fall back on, right, like men always do this
Speaker 1: and women always do that, and then you play out
Speaker 1: in a scene a situation that either illustrates that or
Speaker 1: defies that, only to not defy it at all and
Speaker 1: to recapitulate the values that you started with. Um, I
Speaker 1: think it's lazy. I think it's true. It's such an
Speaker 1: easy sitcom thing. I mean, the reason why Seinfeld is
Speaker 1: so elevated is that their their thesis. Their theses were
Speaker 1: so bizarre. They're like and that was the point. It's like, yes,
Speaker 1: George or somebody would have a theory that we'd be
Speaker 1: like what you think, man hands is a thing or
Speaker 1: you know, so whatever, random thing, and that would become
Speaker 1: a storyline to you know, to their own detriment. And
Speaker 1: I think that, Um yeah, Like I think a lot
Speaker 1: of sitcoms just stay on that easy territory, like the
Speaker 1: gender role than is so easy. Well that's the thing
Speaker 1: we've talked about it being music and Seinfeld and great shows.
Speaker 1: They always played offbeat, they played you didn't you didn't
Speaker 1: know where it was going to go, and this when
Speaker 1: you get these it's kind of like, well, I bet
Speaker 1: you Alan's going to learn that how to listen to
Speaker 1: his wife and he's gonna buy or something nice at
Speaker 1: the end it was just like, yeah, it's it's going
Speaker 1: to be a creative. Yeah, yeah, it's it's And I
Speaker 1: know we have a ton to do when we invent
Speaker 1: the time machine, starting with inventing the time machine, right exactly. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, there's some stuff I'd like to switch about
Speaker 1: this and give Rusty more to do because I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just a waste of rusty in my opinion too,
Speaker 1: is you know? So Yeah, and Betsy for that matter, Well,
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