1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Bridgewater is a production of iHeart Radio three D audio 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: and Grim and Mild from Aaron Bankey. Headphones recommended for 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: a full exposure. Listen with headphones. Listener discretion advised. Once 4 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: we've finished circling the whole lake, I'll officially have done 5 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: every trail of Freetown. And why do you like doing this? 6 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: Come on, look at this place. It's gorgeous mother nature 7 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: and all our splendor. Sure, if you like that sort 8 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: of thing, trust me, it'll grow on you. I just 9 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: see endless trees. Central Park had plenty of those. I 10 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: don't need miles and miles of it. Okay, But what 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: Central Park haunted? No way, Freetown State Forest is hella haunted. 12 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: People see all sorts of weird stuff in here. I mean, 13 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: take this, like, apparently in the seventies they found blood 14 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: and strange symbols all over this rock cliff. A lot 15 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: of it has been covered over in graffiti now, but 16 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: if you look closely, you can still see some carvings. 17 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: And they say when it rains, the rocks get slick 18 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: with red, like they're weeping blood. See right right up there, 19 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: I think you can see some carvings. Oh yeah, there, 20 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: Look Uh, dude, where'd you go? No, seriously, you're freaking 21 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: me out. Okay, this isn't Bunny Daniel, damn it. You 22 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: scared me. You shouldn't mess around with this stuff. What 23 00:01:49,680 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: is it? All right? I think I found something? Okay, 24 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: come on in, settle down and find a seat. I 25 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: see we have some more folks in class today. It's 26 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: maybe a few seniors who remembered that they need a 27 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: history class to graduate. Perhaps, well, you're in the right place. 28 00:02:53,440 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: Folklore and Fact an exploration into unusual America a pretty 29 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: interesting way to get a history credit, if I do 30 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: say so myself. Now, don't worry if you're just joining us. 31 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: You didn't miss anything too important in the first class. 32 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: We just had the chance circle and the blood packed. 33 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: But if you can promise me your firstborn, I can 34 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: promise you that you'll get a passing grade. Soundfair, okay, 35 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: But in all seriousness, the reading list that I handed 36 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: out in the last class is online, and you can 37 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: just let me or my t a VIP and vipp 38 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: and stand up. Let us know if you have a 39 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: hard time chasing down any of the texts. Actually, don't 40 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: let me know. Let Vippen know. Okay, so folklore and fact. 41 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: Why we're all here? I see a couple of familiar 42 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: faces from last semester's witchcraft class. High couldn't get enough 43 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: of the occult? Huh, Well, I get it. I have 44 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: dedicated my life to this stuff because human beings, we 45 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: are fascinated by the strange and the unusual, the inexplicable. 46 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: We like to get into the dark and the cobb 47 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: corners of our world. Scary stories and urban myths and 48 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: folklore and all of these things. They're there because they 49 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: they help us explore the gruesome truths of humanity in 50 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: a safe environment, because stories can't hurt us. Now, some 51 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: might argue that ghosts and monsters can hurt us, but 52 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: the veracity of folklore isn't important, because, of course none 53 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: of it is true. And I realized that might be 54 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: a disappointment to some of you. But no, this class 55 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: is not going to be an exploration into the validity 56 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: of any supernatural claims. This is an academic class. Our 57 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: pursuit this semester is not paranormal, but anthropological. What can 58 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: legends throughout time tell us about history? About people? Why 59 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: did the sale of which trials happen? In that time, 60 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: and in that place, and with those people. Why is 61 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: Area fifty one such an enticing mystery for Americans in 62 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: the twentieth century and the twenty one century. Why do 63 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: people of southeastern Massachusetts believe that this area is a 64 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: magnet for supernatural activity? That's right, Our first topic this 65 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: semester starts right here in Bristol County. Four decades this 66 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: area has been a hotbed for paranormal sightings, everything from 67 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: Bigfoot and UFOs to cult activity and animal sacrifice. In 68 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies, there was a renowned cryptozoologist, Lauren Coleman, 69 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: who gave this other worldly corner of southeastern Massachusetts its 70 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: other name, the Bridgewater Triangle. I'm sure most of you 71 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: have heard of the Bermuda Triangle. It's a large patch 72 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: of the ocean where boats have gone missing and wormholes 73 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: have been reported an alien spotted. The Bridgewater Triangle is similar, 74 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: though it's much smaller in scope. It comprises about two 75 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: square miles. We've got towns, we've got wilderness, couple of farms, 76 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: but our triangle has a greater variety of sightings and happenings. 77 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: So if you can think of a bit of folklore 78 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: or paranormal legend. Chances are someone has reported experiencing it 79 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: in the Bridgewater Triangle. Go ahead, draw something out. What 80 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: have you got? Uh? Ghosts child's play? Of course, more 81 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: than that can count alien abduction. H seventies chock full 82 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: of of UFOs, which is ditto with the Satanic rituals 83 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: in the woods. Seventies were a very interesting time. Come on, 84 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: we're splashing in the shallow end here. Let's let's get 85 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: to the weird stuff. Come on, what have you got? 86 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: Give me your best shot? Basilisks? Basilisks? Now we're talking 87 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: not really no vasilisks, but there have been several settings 88 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: of giant snakes, some of which were actually verified as 89 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: giant snakes. What all right? What else? Fairies? Good? No, 90 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: no fairies. Strictly speaking, though, there have been plenty of 91 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: encounters with strange, small humanoid creatures luring unsuspecting hikers into 92 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: the woods. It sounds like the workings of the Fay 93 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: Realm to me. Now, for the next several weeks, we're 94 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: going to be looking at all of these and more. 95 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: Given the diversity of the supernatural activity and this part 96 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: of the country, we're going to be using the Bridgewater 97 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: Triangle as a framework to study specific legends and to 98 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: talk about how they made their way into this area 99 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: and into the fabric of the local culture. Not to 100 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: mention we live here, so it's going to be a 101 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: little bit more fun, yes, Professor Bradshaw. Yeah, Mike, Mike. 102 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: What about disappearances? Uh, Well, as with most of these places, 103 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: the paranormal activity in this area is largely just fabricated 104 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: and harmless. Bigfoot isn't going around murdering people, but people 105 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: have disappeared. Yes, it's a large area. All sorts of 106 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: crime have happened, disappearances, kidnappings, accidents, murders. Yeah, it's often 107 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: easier for people to blame that on ghosts or cults 108 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: or uh or giant snakes. But that psychological impulse, that 109 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: is something that we will be studying in depth. Your 110 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: dad went missing, right, excuse me in Freetown, State Forest. 111 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: I grew up here and my grandma never let me 112 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: go hiking because of a cop that disappeared. In the seventies, 113 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: Have you said that's when a lot of weird stuff 114 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: was happening. Um, yeah, yeah, yeah. Every every semester always 115 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: has one local who's up on the on the family legend. Yes, 116 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: my father did go missing when I was a child, 117 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: and it was related to some cult activity. There's nothing supernatural. 118 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: It was just your just your run of the mill 119 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: seventies satanic group. They murdered him. Uh no, I can't 120 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: say that his body was never found. It's a cold case. 121 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: But well, forty years go by and you assume the 122 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: guy isn't coming back. Okay, thank you. Now that we've 123 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: gotten past that little bit of history, it's still a 124 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: cold case, even with the badge they found. I'm sorry 125 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: the cops they found a badge in the woods a 126 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: few days ago, the day before yesterday. I think, I'm okay, 127 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: I'm what what are you talking about? I read about 128 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: it on Reddit and where I read it? Yeah, there's 129 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: a whole Bridgewater Triangle subreddit. Okay, what was it saying? 130 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: There's someone who posts a lot whose girlfriend or boyfriend 131 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: or something works for the police, and they said they 132 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: found your dad's old police badge in the woods. They 133 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: might open up the case again. Huh. I had not 134 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: heard anything about that. What do you think happened to him? 135 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: I think that reddit is about as reliable as reports 136 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: of the UFOs, right, well, Mike, that was an interesting diversion. 137 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: Let's let's get back to the task at hand, shall we. Yeah, Hello, hey, 138 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: mom oh Jeremy, what a what a pleasant surprise? Hi? Um? 139 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: Have you gotten a call from the Freetown police? What? No? No? 140 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: Is everything? Okay? Are you? Are you okay? No? No, 141 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: I'm fine, I'm fine. It's just Um, there was a 142 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: kid in my lecture today. Oh oh, of course your 143 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: semesters to get how is it going? Um, it's fine whatever, 144 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: That's not why I called. One of my students said 145 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: that they found Dad's badge in the woods. Mom Um, Well, 146 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: what exactly do you mean when they closed Dad's case, 147 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: did they find anything, any evidence of a body or anything. 148 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: You know, your father is dead, right, he died forty 149 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: years ago, Mom, I know. But did the station ever 150 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: give you any of his personal effects. We got the 151 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: things from his locker at the station, an extra uniform, 152 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: a picture, he kept, a view and his badge wasn't 153 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: in there. No. I assumed it was on and when 154 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: he went missing, and you haven't heard anything. No one 155 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: tried to get in touch with you. It was a 156 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: long time ago. It doesn't change anything. I know, I 157 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: know it doesn't. I just would just be nice to have. 158 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: He'll just be a moment. Thank you. Can I get 159 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: you anything? Water? Coffee? Wow? Full service around here? Slow day? Right? 160 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: Mr Bradshaw? Yes, hello, are you Captain Haddock? Please call 161 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: me Martin? Right, Martin, you're Thomas Bradshaw's boy. That's right. 162 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: He was a very good man. You're dad. I've only 163 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: been on the Force of Gear when he went missing. 164 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: You found something? Yes, yes, we did. Come on through. 165 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: Please take a scene. Did you really find my father's badge? Yeah? 166 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: Yeah we did. Why was I not informed? Oh? We 167 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: had to put it through evidence and processing verify it 168 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: was his talkular witnesses. So what did happen? Who found it? 169 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: A couple of hikers? It was just under asson at ledge. 170 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: That's the one that's by the water, right, yep. What 171 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: else did they find? Nothing? Just the badge must have 172 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: washed up in the recent storm. Right. So now that 173 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: we've processed it, you're welcome to it. Well, uh, thank you, 174 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: thank you, Martin. No problem. I'm sorry that I don't 175 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: not more to tell you. That's okay. I wasn't actually 176 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: expecting anything. It'll be good to have a little piece 177 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, that's all right, I will see myself out. 178 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, have a good day's son yep YouTube. What 179 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: the hell excuse me, Mr Bradshawn. No, I was just 180 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: in there, I know, but the Captain has just got 181 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: into a meeting. Is there something I can help you with? 182 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: What the hell is this? I'm sorry, sir, I don't 183 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: see this badge is pristine. Okay, it's forty years old 184 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: and they just found it in the woods. Once it 185 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,239 Speaker 1: was processed through evidence, they cleaned it off. For you, 186 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: what they cleaned it off? How they clean it off 187 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: with a time machine? Look at this? That badge looks 188 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: practically brand new. If it's been in the forest for 189 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: four decades, then why is there nowhere and tear. There's 190 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: no erosion, there's no decay leather and metal, and there's 191 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: no mold, no rust. That he's odd. Yeah, I need 192 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: to talk to Captain Haddock. I'm sorry, sir, he's in 193 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: meetings for the rest of the day. Then can I 194 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: talk to the hikers who found the badge? We can't 195 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: give out that information, I can. I can try to 196 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: talk to Captain Haddock for you. If you leave me 197 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: your number, I'll follow up Okay, what's your name? Officer 198 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: Aboutista Sarah? Alright, thank you all for spartiste. I know 199 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm sounding alarmist, but this is strange. Yeah, what's strange? 200 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: Look at this? Oh finish love it? Yeah? Yeah, but 201 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't look very ventured, does it. It's badge went 202 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: missing in with my father. Oh yeah, this is the 203 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: one they found in the woods. Thomas Bradshaw always your dad. 204 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, except this doesn't look like it was found 205 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: in the woods. It looks four years old, not forty. 206 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: No offense. But you sound like Becca who and Becca 207 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: retired police officers. She comes in here every couple of 208 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: months with some new theory about your dad. I guess 209 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: she worked the case back in eighty and final cracked 210 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: in the head. The stories. Some of the older guys 211 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: around here though about it sounds like she was crazy 212 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: from the start, Officer McDermott, don't you have work to do? Right? Sorry, 213 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry about him. He doesn't have the brain to 214 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: mouth filter the rest of us do sorright? Uh? Well, 215 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: can you tell me about Ann Becker? Jeremy, I'm sorry, 216 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: I don't understand what you're saying. This badge it looks 217 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: like it was just in Dad's pocket. It's like it's 218 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: like I'm holding this evities in my hand. It still 219 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: feels warm. I mean, I can practically smell his aftershave 220 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: on it. Well, you still love dressing up in your 221 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: dad's uniform. It's a surprise. All of that is rushing back. 222 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: What if these hikers, what if they were lying. What 223 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: if they found something else with the badge, something that 224 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: was maybe covering it or protecting it from the elements 225 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: or something. Why would they do that? I don't know, 226 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: but I'm telling you this badge has not been out 227 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: in the wilderness since I don't know. Apparently there's a 228 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: retired police officer who was on the original case and 229 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: hasn't let it go, And I'm gonna just go try 230 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: and talk to her tonight and see what she thinks. 231 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: I don't know why you want to dredge up such 232 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: ancient history because his murder never got solved. I don't know. 233 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: Maybe you're okay with that, but I'm not. I thought 234 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: you made peace with it, Jeremy. I did too. I 235 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: thought I did. I just this, Mom. You know, this 236 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: is what I do when I don't understand something. I 237 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: learn everything I can about it. That's why I became 238 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: an academic. I know, I know, you know. One of 239 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: the officers down at the station said that this retired 240 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: cop was a bit off her rocker. But I still 241 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: think it's it's worth seeing for myself. What did you 242 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: say her name was? Again? Uh? Anne Becker? Mom? Do 243 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: do you know her? Don't talk to Anne Becker? Why 244 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: that woman doesn't know what she's talking about to understand. 245 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: She is unstable and a liar. And I won't have 246 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: you asking her any questions. Okay, Mom, what the hell 247 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: are you talking about? You listen to me, Jeremy. Don't 248 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: go digging up your father's grave in this way. Mom, 249 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: I'm not digging up my Please. Okay, Honey, I have 250 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: to go. Your dad just put lunch on the table. 251 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: My stepdad. I wish you could just move here, Jeremy, 252 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: maybe if you were close by. I can't. Mom. You 253 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: know that there's nothing for you in Free Town. Jeremy, 254 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: there's there has been, Mom, I can't. I can't just leave. Well, 255 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: we just come for a visit soon, right, Some California 256 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: sunshine might do you good. Okay, Okay, but I thank 257 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: you for calling. It was it was nice to hear 258 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: your voice, Jeremy. Yeah, you know you too. Oh hey, sorry, 259 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: I didn't think you'd still be in your office this late. 260 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: Should I come back? Oh hey they've been No, no, 261 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: you can come on in. I pulled out those records 262 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: that you asked for. Sorry, what records? The UFO ones 263 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: history of sightings in North America? Remember, yes, right, UFOs 264 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: not exactly my strong suit. Yeah, you know, I'm kind 265 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: of surprised you're actually teaching them the semester, not to 266 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: mention dedicating a whole chapter of the book to them. Yeah, 267 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: it's a bit different from the usual religious and regional stories. 268 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: Actually took a quick skim of all these and there's 269 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: not a unifying origin point any where. Yeah, well, I 270 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I guess UFO sightings have been 271 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,239 Speaker 1: in the collective imagination for long enough that I think 272 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: the trend has become culturally significant. I mean, if you 273 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: think about it, the lack of an origin point can 274 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: probably tell us just as much about our society as 275 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: a whole as uh as you know, localized folklore steeped 276 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: in religious beliefs can. Plus UFOs have been sighted in 277 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: the Bridgewater Triangle, Will you go on and just say 278 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: whatever it is you're gonna say. No, I was you know, 279 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't saying anything of it. Come on, 280 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: just spit it out, Okay, the last lecture section today? Yeah, 281 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: what was did you? I mean? Was he? Are you okay? Yeah? 282 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,479 Speaker 1: I'm okay. You know how this place is the smallest 283 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: town in the world. Well, everyone knows everyone else's business, 284 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: and I just gotta roll with it. Yeah it No, 285 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: I get that. But it was the first time someone 286 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: knew your business before you. Yeah, I guess that was new. 287 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: And and what you left the lecture hall pretty quickly 288 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: after class. Yeah, I went to get my father's badge. 289 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: That student who, uh my god, what's his name? Mike? Mike? Uh, 290 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: Mike was right. Some hikers found my dad's badge in 291 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: the woods. It's um, I don't know. I guess it's 292 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: actually nice to have a little bit of him after 293 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: all these years. I'm I'm really sorry, professor. No, really 294 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: don't be. I'd lived my entire life without my father 295 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: at this point. Don't even know what to miss. I 296 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: don't think that's how it works. Nothing. Well, I'm glad 297 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: you got some closure or or momento. I don't know. 298 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: I guess you weren't really expecting any answers. Huh, nope, 299 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: I'm not sure I'll ever have any answers. Who are you? 300 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: What do you want? Mrs Becker? I won't ask you again? 301 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: Who are you? And what do you want? My name 302 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: is Jeremy Bradshaw. Oh my god? So you are have 303 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: Have we met a very very long time ago? How 304 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: old are you now? Fifty? Actually? But thanks? I was 305 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: never good with kids. They all look the same to me. 306 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: We met when I was a kid. You don't remember, Huh, 307 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm sorry, trust me, I shouldn't be sorry. 308 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: Better off? Why Okay, So, now that I know who 309 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: you are, do you want to come in and tell 310 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: me what you want? Um? Yeah, that does look like 311 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: it's about to rain. Um. You worked on my dad's case. 312 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: I was on the force at the time. Yeah. When 313 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: did you retire? Nearly fifteen years ago. I did my 314 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: twenty years of service, a couple of years at the desk, 315 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: and then got out. It wasn't the friendliest career for 316 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: a woman, you know, especially in the eighties and nineties 317 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: and especially after. Yeah, I can imagine, but you still 318 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: go back there every couple of months. Who told you 319 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: that I was down at the station earlier today picking 320 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: up this h Where did you get this? Some hikers 321 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: founded in the woods. Oh and what else did they find? Nothing? 322 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: Mrs Beckers never married. That it matters. I just just 323 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: call me Anne and are you still looking into my 324 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 1: father's case? That case is closed? Yeah, but that's not 325 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: what I asked. What do you want from me? I 326 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: just want to know why you've come back to the 327 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: station recently. I just talked to Officer Batista Maria. She's 328 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: a nice girl, smart, yeah, she she told me that 329 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: you've been trying to get Captain Haddock to reopen the case. 330 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: You remember the Satana panic, don't you. Yeah? Of course, 331 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: Evangelical Christians spreading fear about Satanic rituals throughout America. It's 332 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: an interesting conspiracy phenomenon, actually, because well, I would think 333 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: the thing that would interest you about it is the 334 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: fact that it's what they blamed your dad's disappearance on. Yeah, 335 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: but he was investigating a Satanic cult, wasn't he that 336 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: was active in the free Time Forest. He wouldn't have 337 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: been the first person to get lost in there. And 338 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: it's completely plausible that the cult found him and murdered him. 339 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: But either way, blame me and on the cult. It 340 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: makes sense. There's nothing about what happened to Thomas that 341 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: makes sense. You think that you understand these words, but 342 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: I I have lived next to them for forty five years. 343 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: Strange things were happening back then, and strange things are 344 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: happening again now, and all those fools down at the 345 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: station they won't admit it. Okay, I see what this is? 346 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: What what are you talking about? You know? I remember 347 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: all sorts of Kok's calling and coming to our home 348 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: and trying to convince my mother that her husband was 349 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: the victim of some sort of monster in the forest. Right, 350 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: I gotta say I would have thought a police officer 351 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: would be above that sort of wild theorizing. But I 352 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: guess I was wrong. Uh huh. So they told you 353 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: that I was crazy, right, didn't they? The police? They 354 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: said it back then too. When I didn't buy into 355 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: the panic, when I thought maybe there was more going on, 356 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: I was dismissed. Okay, what more or do you think 357 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: what's going on? I mean, you know that there's never 358 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: been any substantiated evidence of Satanic ritual abuse. Like you said, 359 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: it was the Christian fundamentalists. American value has gone completely haywire. 360 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: Paranoia getting the best of us. Paranoia got the best 361 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: of the Freetown police too. There was evidence of cult 362 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: activity in the woods, yeah, hippie gatherings mostly. All the 363 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: actual animal mutilations came later, though. That is just the 364 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: tip of the iceberg when it comes to what goes 365 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: on around here. Cool, So what do you think happened? 366 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: Packmuch got him? Maybe a thunderbird came and took him away. Well, 367 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot that we don't know about, 368 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: you know, monsters, wormholes, witchcraft. This is a strange place, 369 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: this part of the country. You know, just before Thomas 370 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: went missing, this area got a name for itself. Yeah, 371 00:25:54,080 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: the Bridgewater Triangle. Yeah, I teach folklore at the university. Now, 372 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: why would you want to go and do that after 373 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: growing up with all those cooks, turning your father's disappearance 374 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: into something so clearly wasn't okay? I should go? Thank you. Wait, 375 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: don't forget this. You might want to go to the lake. 376 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: Take a look around. I'm sure the police missed something. 377 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: Wait a second, how did you know that this was 378 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: found at the lake, well where else would have turned up. 379 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't I told you strange things are happening. Okay, 380 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: Can I just ask you what this? This doesn't look 381 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: like it's been in the woods for forty years, does it? 382 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: It sure doesn't. No, okay, Uh, I gotta go. Thanks 383 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: Miss Becker, and sorry, I will just here. It's my 384 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: home phone number. I still use a landline. No self 385 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: service out here. Have actually have the same tape machine 386 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: since the seventies. They don't make things like they used to. 387 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: M hmm, what's up? Oh? Well nothing, I just the 388 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: message light. It wasn't on when I got home, and 389 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: the phone hasn't wrung all evening. So maybe I finally 390 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: gave up the ghost after forty years. Maybe you need 391 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: to be careful, Bradshaw. Things aren't what they seem right. Well, 392 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: I will get out of your hair. Call me when 393 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: you want to know more you call? Well, sure, thanks, 394 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: Well it looks like you were right. It seems like 395 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: there is a storm on the way. You have one 396 00:27:48,760 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: unheard message? Yeah, what all right? And have more? Bridgewater 397 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: was created by Aaron Manky and written and directed by 398 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: Lauren Shippen, with executive producers Aaron Manky, Misha Collins, Matt 399 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: Frederick and Alex Williams. Supervising producer Trevor Young, Editing and 400 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: sound designed by Trevor Young and Matt Stillo, and music 401 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: by Chad Lawson, Starring Misha Collins as Jeremy Bradshaw, Melissa 402 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: Ponzio as Anne Becker, Karen Sony as Vipen Corona, Laurie 403 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: Allen as Nancy Collins, Cheryl Umania as Officer Bautista, Victoria 404 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: Grace as Katie, Frank's Will Wheaton as Captain Haddock, Hillary 405 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: Burton Morgan as Shelley Hoskins, Jonathan Joss as Joseph Hoskins, 406 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: sob Romy as Olivia Hoskins, Samuel Marty as Ethan Hoskins, 407 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: Kristin Bauer as Celeste, and Nathan Fillion as Thomas Bradshaw, 408 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: with additional voice acting by brigand Snow, Andrew Nowak, Julia Maurizawa, 409 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: Jarvis Johnson and Brielle Bresnan, Kristen de Mecurio, James Oliva, 410 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,959 Speaker 1: and Leron Amil. 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