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Speaker 1: This is John, this is Sam, your og Okay Storytime

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Speaker 1: podcast hosts, and we have some spectacular stories coming up.

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Speaker 1: But real quick, we get a two minute break from

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Speaker 1: our lovely sponsors keeping this ship sailing. My husband has

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Speaker 1: kids with another woman, and I just discovered it.

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Speaker 2: Now here's a secret. Your marriage is over.

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Speaker 1: I can't even wrap my head around what's happening right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to try and be as rational as possible.

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Speaker 1: The background, we met thirteen years ago and fell madly

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Speaker 1: in love. We still are what everyone calls the perfect couple,

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Speaker 1: and up until the other nights, I believed it. By

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Speaker 1: r slash of Okay Storytime star Bread. So we talk

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Speaker 1: openly and honestly. I thought about everything. We are best friends,

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Speaker 1: have amazing, spicy sleep, travel twice a year, and have

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Speaker 1: made an amazing home together. We don't have any children,

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Speaker 1: something we decided before getting married for various reasons. Ah,

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Speaker 1: but he made a decision somewhere else. Yes, apparently we

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Speaker 1: were both so happy with the decision because we have

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Speaker 1: such a good life just us, the three cats and

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Speaker 1: a dog. I've been nothing but thrilled with our relationship

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Speaker 1: and the life we've built. When we met, I knew

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Speaker 1: that he had an ex wife. He didn't like talking

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Speaker 1: about her, but I know she was pretty awful, emotionally abusive, controlling,

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Speaker 1: and I think even a bit physically harmful too. She

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Speaker 1: had an affair leading up to their divorce. She really

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Speaker 1: did a number on him, and he was single for

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Speaker 1: a long time until he started dating again, which was MEO.

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Speaker 1: I've always since there was something he couldn't quite tell me.

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Speaker 1: He's always a cheerful guy around people and even with me,

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Speaker 1: but once I heard him crying in the shower. And

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Speaker 1: sometimes I'll come into a room and he'll just be

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Speaker 1: staring at a wall looking absolutely depressed.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh man.

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Speaker 1: When I talked to him, he'll say something sweet, like

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Speaker 1: he was thinking about what his life would be like

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Speaker 1: if you ever met me, or if he lost me.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was weird because I don't think like that,

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Speaker 1: but I believed him, because why wouldn't I. But we

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Speaker 1: have the next section, Sofia, because that was the background. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what This new section is titled what the

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Speaker 1: Truth Comes Out?

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Speaker 2: Ouch, oh man, that's what it's titled The Truth Comes Out.

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Speaker 2: It's here, it's hot off the presses.

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Speaker 1: It's hot off the presses. Are we actually physically hot?

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Speaker 2: Actually physically hot too.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's cool it down. Let's crank the temperature down

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Speaker 1: in here. Toasty toasty story. Well, last weekend we were

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Speaker 1: at his family's house for a big get together. They

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Speaker 1: with his brother, but this time we were really putting

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Speaker 1: them back. Normally he is really happy, friendly, wasted. This

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Speaker 1: time he was argumentative and stand offish. I let him

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Speaker 1: for ages. When I went looking for him. He was

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Speaker 2: Know, we know, we know, we know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So my question now is did he abandon the

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Speaker 1: It seems a little that comment suggests that he was

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Speaker 3: Well, we all know, a deadbeat dead classic is it's like, oh, oh, suddenly,

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Speaker 1: Now I wish I would have.

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Speaker 2: This this was from before.

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Speaker 1: It's possible. It's possible it could have been a kid

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Speaker 2: Okay, so ex wife, this is shocking news. But at

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Speaker 1: Or is it oh? Or is it oh?

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Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, I had two children with my ex wife.

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Speaker 1: You know what they say the mistress, you know, is

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Speaker 1: That's right. What The son was five and the daughter

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Speaker 1: she asked that my husband give up his rights and

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Speaker 1: but that's the idea. We talked the whole day, but

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Speaker 1: I just can't understand. The children are not children anymore.

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Speaker 1: The girl just turned eighteen. It was her birthday that

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Speaker 1: even a good idea. How could he give up his children?

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Speaker 1: How could he allow someone so unstable to raise them?

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Speaker 1: That's another good point. How could he lie to me

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Speaker 1: upset about that. Yeah, I think that's.

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Speaker 2: It's a very valid thing to be upset about. You

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Speaker 2: But the thing that affecting you is that he lied.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and now it's like, what else has he lied

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they all lied to you too, Dang.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I can trust him to lie

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Speaker 1: because he was deeply ashamed. I don't think that's good enough.

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Speaker 1: What now, Well, what's going to happen right now is

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Speaker 1: I'm going to turn to my trust. Did co hosts

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Speaker 1: Dakota and Sophia Okay, please respond with your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I mean I don't think that's a reasonable answer,

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Speaker 3: Good enough answer. Yes, I agree, I think it's reasonable,

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Speaker 3: but it's not. Yeah, it's not great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's a good enough answer.

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Speaker 1: Like I didn't tell you this because I knew you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'sed of it. It's like you should, you should

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Speaker 2: be ashamed of it. Yeah, yeah, like these aren't.

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Speaker 4: The thing is, we.

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Speaker 2: Read a lot of stories where someone's giving up their kids,

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Speaker 2: or like they give up their parental rights when the

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Speaker 2: baby's born. This isn't. He gave up the parental rights

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Speaker 2: when the baby's born. These were three and five year

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Speaker 2: the two year old, but definitely the five year olds

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I question if there was criming involved, criming criming, yes,

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Speaker 3: I just I don't know why he would be like,

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Speaker 3: oh no, eighteen years man. It's like, well, yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: kind of the whole point, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Like you didn't even get in contact with his son

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Speaker 1: Great point? Like why?

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Speaker 2: I mean maybe why was he waiting for both of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of suspicious stuff here, very much so,

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Speaker 5: a lot of answers, are a lot of questions that

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Speaker 1: Oh boy o boy o boy, oh boy, oh boy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I've been dealing with my anger towards the situation. I

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Speaker 1: can't say I'm over it, but really it's only been

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Speaker 1: The whole giving up his kids thing is that makes

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Speaker 1: I think they did, but they didn't know much about it.

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Speaker 2: That's still crazy to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that they would be like, Yo, what's going.

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Speaker 2: On happened here? What happened to your two and five

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Speaker 1: Where's your kids? Where did they go? The wife really

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Speaker 1: Apparently they were not made to feel welcome by her.

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Speaker 1: After finding out about my husband's children, he's felt like

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Speaker 1: The one main thing holding him back was not wanting

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Speaker 3: You did this was all behind her back, the whole things,

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Speaker 1: The whole thing. So he did some proper searching on Facebook,

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Speaker 1: But he found the girl and she replied, and they

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Speaker 1: here's what he learned. His son is in prison on

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Speaker 1: substance related charges. He is one year in on a

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Speaker 1: three year sentence. I'm sorry, but like if I was

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Speaker 1: the husband and I heard that, I'm like, I don't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is my fault.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you left your children with like a crazy person.

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Speaker 1: I read ahead and it gets worse, Sophia. As for

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Speaker 3: Yes, which is I wanted to say, perfect opportunity for

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Speaker 2: And it seems like they've learned the same tricks that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you were lied to the contractor her marriage has changed.

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Speaker 3: My concern would be she's like, we did I didn't

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it is an important asset you're gonna lose,

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Speaker 1: it totally fair. He took her shopping as promised. There

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, yes, I think it might also be the

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Speaker 3: I was saying it was probably it could have been well,

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Speaker 2: The dad's absence, and the mom being awful. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, good to call out. Yes, it's not

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Speaker 2: Him not being there and leaving them with the crazy person.

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Speaker 1: You know I didn't catch that Potras, but we'll agree

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Speaker 2: You to go to concur There we go, CPS. CPS.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, why are we leaving a child in these conditions?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, Obie says, as forgetting to know her, I

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Speaker 1: He wasn't able to visit the sun yet. So Monday

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Speaker 2: No, you didn't sign up for that. Leave and then

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Speaker 2: you know what, maybe that is what he needs to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not bad that he wants to take the

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Speaker 1: He wants to keep her close rather than renting her

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're being flung, you know, like a lot of

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Speaker 1: They wake up the next day and he's like, so

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Speaker 2: Are you to do it?

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Speaker 1: Are you ready to it? Are you are you ready

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Speaker 1: It may be selfish, but I've asked him what my

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Speaker 2: Your life will change, your life will try not only

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Speaker 2: it's going to be crying at night for your to

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Speaker 2: There's so many things that happen when you have a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do not one hundred percent sure of this.

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Speaker 1: It does seem like they have a like upstairs, completely

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Speaker 1: separate unit.

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Speaker 2: But still I mean still crying.

438
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh, one hundred percent. And it's again it

439
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: all goes back to the main point of like, she

440
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: didn't ask for this or sign up for this. She

441
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: can't bear the burden of your mistakes. Yeah, that's that's

442
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: not This might be a situation of like, yeah, you

443
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 1: don't want her, you want to be able to keep

444
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 1: an eye on her. Well, maybe you should have thought

445
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 1: of that eighteen years ago. Yeah. I would be willing

446
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 1: to accept some less time from him, but I don't

447
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: want to play grandma. What do you guys think? Is

448
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 1: there any way the situation can work. The more I

449
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: think about it, the more I honestly can't see life

450
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: without my husband. He really is my other half. I'm

451
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 1: still mad at him for the deceit, but I don't

452
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 1: think I could actually ever leave him. Taking on a

453
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 1: mother slash grandmother role, though, is something I really don't

454
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: want for myself. I mean, if it's possible to have

455
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: them living on the same property as me having a

456
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Speaker 1: relationship with my husband, but me without even work, or

457
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Speaker 1: do I just need to suck it up and expand

458
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 1: my family just really quick before we get into update

459
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Speaker 1: number three, No, you don't. This is not your mess,

460
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 1: not your responsibility.

461
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 2: I think that Op needs to realize that her husband

462
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 2: may be her other half, but this will not go away.

463
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 2: He has opened the door to a relationship with his

464
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 2: daughter and his son. I think we haven't really heard

465
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 2: much about the sun, but he's opened that door. And

466
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 2: though you can't close it, he can't just you know,

467
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: I mean, like you could try and back out, but

468
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 2: they're still they are aware of him. They'll probably go

469
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 2: to keep reaching out to him. If he stopped, yes

470
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 2: giving them money, they might harass it. Like, we don't

471
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen, but they're not gonna go away.

472
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: And so you have to kind of make a choice

473
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 2: of do am I okay with that, because he's already

474
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 2: made his choice do it?

475
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: But ladies and gentlemen, we haven't updated to this much

476
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: less cute saga. Okay, update number three. So it's been

477
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: about a month now. We were going to counseling twice

478
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: a week, and we were fighting one hundred times more

479
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: in the past couple of months than the rest of

480
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: our thirteen years together. Combat yea, yeah. I was quite

481
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: firm with him about not letting her move in with

482
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Speaker 1: us and not sending cash. Stand your ground. I thought

483
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: that we should help in other ways, like helping with

484
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 1: baby supplies, tuition, and counseling. He's pretty adamant on getting

485
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: her close by. We finally agree that she and the

486
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: baby could come visit for a week. He wouldn't mention

487
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: living together to her yet, it would be time to

488
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: get a feel of if it could work. He used

489
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: a hole getting her apartment cleaned and painted as a reason.

490
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: So pregnant, pregnant, so pregnant, her and the baby didn't

491
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 1: have to be around chemicals of paint fumes. Okay, that

492
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: makes sense. Like take her away from the paint all right, Yeah,

493
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 1: that made sense. She was reluctant and insisted she'd be fine,

494
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: but eventually agreed. The mother stayed with her boyfriend. The

495
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: flat was all set up for her. We borrowed his

496
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: brother's old baby stuff and baby proofed the space. I

497
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: made it a point to be open minded and not judgmental,

498
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 1: because I know this girl has had a rough upbringing.

499
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: She arrived on the Saturday, a week before the one passed.

500
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: Husband picked her up from the airport. They came to

501
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: the main house first, husband carrying the baby and the suitcase.

502
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,959
Speaker 1: She hardly mumbled a hi, hi when I greeted her,

503
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: and it didn't even look at me. She was looking

504
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 1: all over the house with almost a sneer. Is that

505
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 1: another dog?

506
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: This whole story has just been about dogs.

507
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the dog imagine. We wake up and

508
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: the whole thing was a dream about dogs.

509
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 2: I keep having dreams about bed bugs and it's frightening.

510
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: Oh you should stop that.

511
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: I know it's scary. I keep waking on, like checking

512
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: my bed. Someone was talking about bed bugs.

513
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: Wait, but what happens in these dreams about bed bugs?

514
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 2: They like eat you alive. Even so there's just bed

515
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 2: bugs in my bed.

516
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: There's jest bugs in your bed. Yeah, and then you

517
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: like wake up and you're like, there's bugs in my bed.

518
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

519
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: So now I was showing I was showing his daughter around,

520
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 1: and while in the kitchen, before I had a chance

521
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: to offer something, she opens the fridge. I thought that

522
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,479
Speaker 1: was strange, but I let it go. She asked where's

523
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 1: the coke? And when I told her we didn't have any.

524
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: She let out a huge sigh. So my husband told

525
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: her he wanted to take her to stock the fridge

526
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: where she is staying, and she said that she was

527
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 1: tired and she'll give him a list. After this, she

528
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: goes to the apartment to rest. Husband runs off to

529
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: get the list of junk food that she's given him.

530
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: He gets to come for dinner hours later. I made

531
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: dinner for us at night. I didn't cook like I

532
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: would for my husband and myself because we typically eat

533
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: very healthy and I know it's not gonna be everyone's tastes.

534
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: I figure you can't go wrong with meat and three

535
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: veg I was wrong. She looked at the food like

536
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: I had put roadkill on the table. After much prying

537
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: about what she prefers, there was a lot of doesn't

538
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: matter and whatevers. She listed off things like Maka's macus

539
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: like McDonald.

540
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 3: Ah, that is an Australian thing, shout out, Sonny, shout

541
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 3: out like maccus, sausage rolls, pies, fish and chips, only

542
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 3: only to go Food's husband.

543
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: Offered to get her something, which she accepted. As soon

544
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: as he left, she said she was going back to

545
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: her space. I was okay with this. The rest of

546
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: the week was mostly her being in the apartment. Here

547
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: are some things that happened. I'm trying my best with

548
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: just the list to just list the facts unbiased, but

549
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: it probably won't come out that way. We've been forewarned.

550
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: Here we go screaming baby most nights, so Topie's point,

551
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: the baby can be heard through the walls. A husband

552
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 1: went once to see if he could help, and she

553
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: had headphones on, laying on bed and baby was on

554
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: the crib with a spoiled diaper. Oh. On two occasions,

555
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: the motion lights went on, so I looked outside. A

556
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: guy went up to her flat. How does she know

557
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: anyone here? It wasn't the same guy two times, so

558
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: she had two strange men. Men go into the apartment.

559
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: Oh no, they're doing something. Oh no, husband gets to

560
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: go for her every meal. I tried again to make

561
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: something she liked, fried chicken and chips. Uh. She ate it,

562
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: but said KFC was better.

563
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: Stop like just letting her have whatever she wants. She's

564
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 2: living in your house. Yeah, Like, okay, if you want

565
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 2: to buy yourself, but this is what we're eating tonight. Yeah,

566
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: you can buy yourself something else, but.

567
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 1: By cook for you and you tell me straight up KF,

568
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: she's better.

569
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 3: It's the last night you spend in my house or

570
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: the last night I spend in your presence.

571
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: This is true. This is true. Husband sat down with

572
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: her to have a serious talk about her future and

573
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: how he'd help her with schooling and work. She laughed

574
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: and said a A I'm a mother, that that is

575
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: a job, and school isn't gonna help me do that.

576
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: She firmly believes that she has no duty to make

577
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: a living to support her family, that it's perfectly acceptable

578
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: to live off the dole, which I think is live

579
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: off the government support. I believe she didn't clean up

580
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: after herself at all. When he went to check on her,

581
00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: food containers were everywhere and its stank of baby poo icky.

582
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: She turned down every attempt to go out and do anything.

583
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: It was her first time in the city that people

584
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: come all over the world to see Sydney not as

585
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: good as Brisbane. I'm just guessing, I al Melbourn, Bet Melbourn.

586
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: She left a hamper of dirty clothes outside my front door.

587
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: The only thing she didn't have in her flat was laundry.

588
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: I didn't think she need she'd need it for a week,

589
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: but she could have asked to use it. I put

590
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: them back in front of her door, unwashed, never heard

591
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: more about it. Refused meeting husband's family, so her grandparents, uncle,

592
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: Aun's cousins. They were really keen to meet her and

593
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: the baby. She insulted me twice about my lifestyle in

594
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: the very limited interactions we had, along with a snide

595
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: remark and not understanding things. Because I'm not a mother,

596
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: you would get it. Yeah, I found there's more. There's

597
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,479
Speaker 1: more points. I found husband crying one night after bringing

598
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: her food. Well, well, she went home this past weekend.

599
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: That's the end of our list. Who so now the

600
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: highlight reel of the week is over. The week is over. Oh,

601
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: we're back. She knows there's an open offer to help

602
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: her get her life on track with schooling, counseling, finding work,

603
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: et cetera. She doesn't want any of it. He was

604
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: most pushing for counseling, hoping that the rest will follow.

605
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: She thinks it's absolutely ridiculous and won't consider it. She

606
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 1: definitely won't be living with us. I'm really happy we

607
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: did this, at least because we're of one mind about

608
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: her now. So now the husband is also like, okay,

609
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 1: she can't live with us. Yeah, thank god, Hey it's Sam.

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Speaker 1: She went home to a clean house, not that it'll

613
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Speaker 1: stay that way. He told her to contact him if

614
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: she needs anything, but that he's not going to send cash.

615
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: He will order the things online she needs and send

616
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: it to her. He had a great time cleaning up

617
00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: the flat a week's worth of Dirney diapers. We've had

618
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: a good week. I think we can finally move past

619
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: this with the help of a therapist. We have such

620
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: a great life, and I was afraid that would come

621
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: crumbling down. It seems more manageable now. I know there

622
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: will be more drama to come, though. The sun is

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Speaker 2: Do it?

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Speaker 1: Okay, man, But before we get into the end of

630
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: the story, First, off, wow yowser, Hey, yay yai I krumba.

631
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: We've had a lot of yows's today.

632
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a yow's a day. Yes, just a

633
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: yaousa quite frank yaosa Wednesday.

634
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am like, ah, it seems like Opie really

635
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: doesn't want to lose lose this dream life she's built

636
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: with her husband.

637
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: But it's just like she like, it's not the same.

638
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: It's been built on this lie. And he's trying to

639
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: go back and fix this lie eight like thirteen years

640
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: too late. Yeah, and thinking that he can throw money

641
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: at stuff and it'll be fine. It won't be and

642
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: they're not gonna go away. And you think that everything's

643
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: going to return to normal, but it's I don't know,

644
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: it's changed. Yeah, and you can't unchange it.

645
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: This is true. This is true. What do we do

646
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: about baby? Maybe consider get sixteen years to the Uh

647
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: what'd you say? I said?

648
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: I say, I think you gotta get the baby out

649
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 3: of there. Now that sounded real, saying yes, she's not

650
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 3: taking care of the baby.

651
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: She doesn't know how to take care of this child.

652
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: I like, in some manner, you have to get the

653
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: baby out of there.

654
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would get maybe, especially because it sounds like

655
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: he has the funds too. I would get a like

656
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: lawyer specializing in like CPS child law and start to understand,

657
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: like what does it look like? What does that process

658
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: look like? And again back to Dakota's mentioned from the

659
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: very beginning of this whole story, you got your chance

660
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: at redemption. You could raise the children, the babies. Yeah,

661
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And not that it that'll

662
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: never erase what you've done, but at least you'll be

663
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: giving these kids a better life.

664
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely.

665
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: Let's get into the finale of the story. LASONO. I

666
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: know a lot of people think I shouldn't forgive the lies,

667
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: but I've decided to not let the one, although huge

668
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: mistake he made outweigh all the wonderful things he does

669
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: every day mistake. I would Shaye his more than one mistake.

670
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: You lie to you for the whole time.

671
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would count every day that the lie stood

672
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: as a mistake.

673
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: Deay, So thirteen years worth of mistakes. Yeah, that's that's

674
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: that's I think. I agree. But hey, some people are forgiving.

675
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: I guess people be forgiven. Thanks again to everyone that

676
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: followed me through this. When she did say something really rude.

677
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: It helped me, uh to not get too angry by

678
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: thinking what we'll reddit think of this one? Edits all right,

679
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: It's time for me to close up a strowaway account.

680
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: There were a lot of kind, supportive comments and a

681
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 1: lot of harsh but needed advice, But the mean comments

682
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: on my character are getting to me. I honestly did

683
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: things to the best of my ability, and I don't

684
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: see the point of lying and saying it was a

685
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: lovely visit. I believe my actions were good, even if

686
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: perhaps my words weren't. However, what I said here doesn't

687
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: have didn't have any impact on anyone involved in the situation.

688
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: I guess I don't have thick enough skin for the internet.

689
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: But lesson learn.

690
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: Cheers, cheers, cheers, and uh man.

691
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: That's the end of that story, Sophia. But we have

692
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: wood most story. We have one more story.

693
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: My friend confessed her attraction to a married man. It's

694
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: my husband.

695
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: Oh oh, divorce.

696
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: You can't have that one.

697
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: I was at a.

698
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: Dinner outing with friends. My friend Mary is very attractive

699
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: and kept getting hit on. She usually can have any

700
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: man she wants. She shows a lot of cleavage and

701
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: has big front airbags. This is nothing new for her,

702
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: but we're all kind of jealous of her. By the

703
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: way this comes from, she wants my husband and if

704
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: you want to smit your own stories, go to the

705
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: r slash Okay, storytime, separate it. So I met her

706
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: after I married my husband through her sister, who I

707
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 2: knew in college. This is not a small town by

708
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: any means. We live in a big city with population

709
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: in the millions. But I guess it's a small world.

710
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: After all, My husband also attended the same college and

711
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: we met through friends there, so it's not shocking that

712
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: he knows Mary. Mary and I are kind of close

713
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: friends now. So we had drinks and Mary was pretty wasted,

714
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 2: so were the rest of us. I suppose all these

715
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: hot guys kept hitting on her all night. Uh oh,

716
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 2: so when Mary shrugged it off and said, it's just

717
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 2: the cleavage tonight. Oh, but she was being modest. She

718
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 2: gets hit on when she's all covered up too. Anyway,

719
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: her front airbags became a topic and one of the

720
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: girls asked Mary if she had ever let anybody titty

721
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: f her. She said she loves her front airbags, and

722
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: although she was saving that for the her eventual husband.

723
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: She did let one guy just to her because she

724
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: was way too into him. She's like, I'm saving that

725
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: for marriage. But I did, Yes, I did. We asked

726
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: her what happened and she said She proceeded to give

727
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 2: us detail. It was crazy, spicy related experimentation and weekend

728
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: hotel rooms, but she said he's married now and wants

729
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 2: nothing to do with her.

730
00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: Oop.

731
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 2: She said she would have made I'm in a heartbeat,

732
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: but he would not commit for her. Then she added

733
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: that she had made advances, but he doesn't bite. We

734
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 2: all started teasing her about going after a married guy,

735
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 2: but we were all wasted, so it wasn't over the

736
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: top and we didn't lecture her. She also said that,

737
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: judging by her interactions with him, sometimes she thinks he's

738
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: gonna cave and take her to a hotel again, and

739
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,959
Speaker 2: f her brain that she was serious a buff.

740
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: Oh No.

741
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: One of the other girls got really quiet and kept

742
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 2: staring at me. Later, she told me Mary was talking

743
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: about my husband.

744
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,959
Speaker 1: Oh we knew that, but it's so crazy. Yeah yoay,

745
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: oh my gosh.

746
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 2: I was livid, but she wouldn't let me betray her

747
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: trust and confront Mary. I asked her to call Mary

748
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: on speaker and ask her. She asked her, in a

749
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 2: joking way, what possessed her to talk about wanting to

750
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: f my husband when I was sitting right there. Mary

751
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: laughed and said it was just the booth. I asked

752
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 2: my husband about Mary, and he said they had a

753
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: short fling that didn't last, but Mary described it as

754
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: having gone on for over two years. I didn't know

755
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: my husband in that timeframe, and he didn't know I

756
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: was friends with Mary's sister until shortly before our wedding,

757
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: when I invited her to a pre wedding dinner.

758
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: Okay, So, and just to be clear, from both of

759
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 1: their stories, it looks like their interactions were totally outside

760
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: of OPI in his relationship. Yes, okay, noted.

761
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: I didn't meet Mary until around the same time. I

762
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: asked him if Mary has ever made advances or flirted,

763
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: and to flat out deny any of this, he said,

764
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: she keeps a respectful distance. Now, I'm angry that my

765
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: husband didn't tell me he slept with Mary right when

766
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: I met her, but truthfully, I would have been angry

767
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: anyway because I'm kind of jealous of her. I also

768
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: don't know why she says it went on for so long,

769
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: and he described it as brief, like over a few weeks.

770
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 2: Mary insisted that night that she flirts with him and

771
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: has practically thrown herself at him, but that he hasn't bitten.

772
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: She also said she thinks it's a matter of time.

773
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 2: I didn't ask for details because we were all wasted

774
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 2: and I didn't know she was referring to my husband.

775
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how to handle this because my husband

776
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: insists he doesn't know what she's talking about. Now two

777
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: of my friends know, and they're telling me it was

778
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 2: all wasted talk and Mary was just talking out of

779
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 2: her butt. That I should just believe my husband and

780
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: leave it alone. Mary comes to my house for gatherings

781
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: all the time because we're actually close friends.

782
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 3: Now.

783
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 2: She also runs into my husband at the gym often

784
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: because they both work out with similar schedules. Oh, I'm

785
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: not sure how much to ask my husband. Can I

786
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 2: ask him to change gyms? Why is there such a

787
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 2: disconnect between what she remembers and what he described because

788
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: one of them is lying. This is driving me crazy

789
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: to another level. Could I have sat down with her

790
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 2: and ask her what all happened? And there is an update.

791
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 2: But John, yes, what do you think?

792
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 1: Listen? Uh As Sophia said, the matheint math the math

793
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: at maths, the timelines are and the stories are not aligning.

794
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: So someone there's some deception is going on and happening here.

795
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: I think you absolutely can sit down and basically be

796
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: like here. I think ideally don't jump first to like

797
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: uh oh, don't go to the gym, but rather be like,

798
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: I am uncomfortable at you guys, is like gym schedules

799
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: the line some much.

800
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: You never told me about your relationship.

801
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: You ever told me about all of this?

802
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 4: Like, dude, last night you said this was Riley's worst nightmare.

803
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: I did. I did say that if.

804
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 6: My girl was going to the gym with some dude,

805
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 6: And I'm gonna be honestly, if that was happening, I'm

806
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 6: gonna be like, I'm gonna pick up a new workout.

807
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 4: I guess I'm working out too.

808
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let's work out together.

809
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 6: You have all three of us, Yep, I don't care,

810
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 6: and I'm gonna I'm gonna work day and nine to

811
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 6: make sure I love.

812
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 4: More than that guy and that he knows.

813
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: Oh, dude, if if Riley wasn't already competitive gym wise before,

814
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he would. He would be the swoolest man.

815
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: On He's so strong.

816
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 4: I'll be like waiting for him to skip a day

817
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 4: so I could go to the gym that day.

818
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: I make sure.

819
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 4: Oh, you got sick for two weeks. Wonder how that happened.

820
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I poisoned to you. Oh oh, but there is

821
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: an update.

822
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: Oh, let's go.

823
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: Let me begin by saying a few things about my husband.

824
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: He is very good looking and gets a lot of attention.

825
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 2: It's not just me saying it because he's my husband.

826
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: He does stick out for his looks. The other thing

827
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: is that he's an idiot and doesn't know what he's

828
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 2: being hit on, and he gets hit on a lot.

829
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: I also have a problem with jealousy because I'm insecure.

830
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: Sometimes I get mad at him because he gets too

831
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: much attention from women, and he never has any idea

832
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 2: why I'm mad at him. He drives me nuts because

833
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: he never changes things up. He gets coffee at the

834
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 2: same place, if he wants a burger, same place, if

835
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: he wants a bagel, same place, salad, same place. I

836
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 2: understand some of this, like haircuts, but he never goes

837
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: to a variety of places unless I practically force him

838
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: to the problem is that there happens to be girls

839
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 2: behind the counter. If there happens to be girls behind

840
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 2: the counter, they get the wrong idea that he's there

841
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: to see them, and he's sad. Girls give him their

842
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: number or email even oh he oh, even though he

843
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: wears a wedding band.

844
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like wondering. I was like, I mean, yeah,

845
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: he like likes getting the same coffee, but like, I mean,

846
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: that's not our crime. But it's like, oh, he goes

847
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: to the same likes the same. Oh God.

848
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: The other day I walked into a coffee shot with

849
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: him and the girl said high honeyboot him. Then she

850
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 2: complained that he had not been there in three weeks.

851
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 2: He's not like a model, but we live in a

852
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: big city where a lot of modeling agencies are headquartered.

853
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: And he looks better than models, I think, and many

854
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: women are great huh. He has the prettiest eyes, and

855
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: he's fit, but he doesn't know how to do his

856
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: hair and looks like a nerd most of the time.

857
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 2: But it works for his career and it works for me.

858
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 6: Dude, that sounds like Sam He's like, he doesn't know

859
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 6: what to do with his hair most of time, but

860
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 6: he looks better than most models, Am I right?

861
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: So funny?

862
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: Nice of you. Yeah, he's also too nice and women

863
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: take this the wrong way. I'm working on getting him

864
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: to be more of an ale to people. Yaykay, just

865
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: want him to be less nice without being a clown.

866
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: Now to the issue at hand, I asked him about

867
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 2: the discrepancy in timeline between him and Mary. He admitted

868
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 2: that it lasted months and probably more than a year.

869
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 1: Wait, I'll read that again.

870
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: He admitted that it lasted months and probably.

871
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: More than a year. That is more than months. That

872
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: is more than a year. My friend.

873
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: He was like, I admit it lasted months, well, which

874
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: was probably more like a year. But if we're thinking truthfully,

875
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 2: it was probably two years.

876
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 4: Anywhere from like three months to thirteen months.

877
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 6: I don't even know.

878
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: Any did he say the timeline initially?

879
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: No, he said weeks or he implied weeks, oh, but

880
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: that he remembers it all going by so quickly, but

881
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: he never thinks about it. So when I asked him

882
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 2: about it, he didn't think it was important. He doesn't

883
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: see his time with her as emotionally significant. Also says

884
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: he runs into her at the gym a lot, but

885
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: that he doesn't talk to her. Sometimes she walks up

886
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: and will point out that's some sloot is checking him out.

887
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: She calls all women that look his direction suos. I

888
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: asked him if he would change gym's and the look

889
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: on his face was worrisome. I don't think he wants to,

890
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: but he said he would if I really wanted to.

891
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 2: I'm afraid my jealousy is going to push him too far.

892
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: I confronted Mary, and she apologized and said that she

893
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: still has feelings for him.

894
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: Oh, no, shocking, This is not good.

895
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 6: Also, the girls are twenty five and the husband is

896
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 6: thirty one.

897
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: Okay, No, she shocked me by telling me why we

898
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 2: shouldn't be friends, and she wants to stay away from

899
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: me and my husband because she'll never get over her

900
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 2: as long a spur in her life. Let's honestly, that's fair.

901
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 2: She yeah, she knows herself.

902
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, and she I mean she was honest. Yeah,

903
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, so I'll give her that.

904
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: She actually requested a transfer to the East Coast and

905
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: it was granted at her work. She'll be gone for

906
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: three years. That was easy loud. That was incredibly easy.

907
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: Op went, Hey, that wasn't cool, and she said, you're right,

908
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm not over him and I'm leaving for

909
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: three years.

910
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: All right. How was the quickest like snap transition I've

911
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: ever seen in the show?

912
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: Insane?

913
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: Hey, it's John here. We're gonna get back to the stories.

914
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: Put a quick three minute ad break from our sponsors

915
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: that keep the show going.

916
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: It was pretty friendly and she was respectful. He's not

917
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: leaving until late January twenty sixteen. Just one problem with

918
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: my conversation with Mary. I asked her for some details,

919
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: and this was a mistake. She asked me if I

920
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 2: was sure, and I said yes. She met him because

921
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: he was involved with a friend of hers. This girl

922
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: was a spicy dancer in a very upscale place that's

923
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: known around here. The spicy dancer brought in Mary for

924
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: a mono chatoin with my husband. This became a regular

925
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: practice until Mary developed feelings for him and stole them

926
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: away from spicy dancer girl. Details about the spicy sleep

927
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 2: stuff was worse than I thought sy. I also could

928
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 2: tell Mary was getting satisfaction out of telling me all

929
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 2: the details. I could tell she knew she had this

930
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: over me. I was like a willing hostage because I

931
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 2: didn't walk away from this conversation and she knew this,

932
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: so she took full advantage under the guise of honesty.

933
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: This made me feel worse and more inadequate. I always

934
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: thought we had a great, spicy sleep life, but now

935
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: I think it's only great for me. All this time,

936
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: I asked my husband about all the spicy sleep stuff

937
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: and he confirmed. I was annoyed and asked him why

938
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: he never told me about this stuff and why he

939
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: never told me about his history with Mary. He said

940
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 2: he was afraid of telling me about Mary. He didn't

941
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: think I'd take it well. He also said if Mary

942
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: had been inappropriate with him, he would have immediately sat

943
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: me down and told me. But I'm afraid he doesn't

944
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: know what inappropriate is. But you know it is appropriate.

945
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: What is that, Sophia listening to full episodes of stories

946
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: just like this? Just go to Spotify, Apple podcast, or

947
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio and search a book a story time correct, But

948
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: there is a little bit left to this story. Do

949
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: you have any final thoughts?

950
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, uh, messy. It seems like husband should

951
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: have told earth, because they're so involved with each other.

952
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: If it had been if Mary had been some person

953
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 2: that he never saw again, Yeah, don't necessarily need to

954
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: talk about that.

955
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: It was also the details explicitly, it's like, okay, you

956
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: don't have to Yeah, it doesn't mean you have to

957
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: list out like, Okay, here's every past part and all

958
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: the things.

959
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Mary is a person who's actively in your life. Yes,

960
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: that is something you need to disclose. Indeed, but that's

961
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: it that we're going to get into the last of

962
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: this story.

963
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: Let's do it.

964
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: I also asked him why he never told me he

965
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: was into all that stuff, the spicy sleep stuff you

966
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: did with Mary. I told him that I felt spicy

967
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 2: to sleep with me was boring for him. He said

968
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: he thinks spicy sleep is great with me. When he

969
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 2: talked about what Mary said about the things they did

970
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 2: with a spicy dancer and later alone with Mary, he

971
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 2: said that he never set out to do any of that.

972
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: He said it was stuff that happened as opposed to

973
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 2: stuff he went out to do. Not sure what the

974
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: difference is, and it's not much consolation right now. My

975
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: other friends didn't know and don't know two of my

976
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: friends know about Mary, and my husband the one who

977
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: gave me the heads up, and Mary's sister. Mary's sister

978
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: is married now too, so she kind of takes my side,

979
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 2: though she loves her sister and his beast friends with her.

980
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: Not much you can do then, Yeah, but that is

981
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 2: the end of that story and the end of this episode.

982
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: Wow.

983
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: Wow. So if you love us, make sure to subscribe.

984
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Speaker 1: We love you and see you tomorrow.