WEBVTT - Celebrating Sir Charles 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:04.800 Charles Barkley in bronze A mighty good look now on 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:08.080 Legends Walk at the seventy six Ers Training Complex. I 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:12.399 hope y'all appreciate my love of Philadelphia. My heart will 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:15.720 always be here in Philadelphia. We'll talk with Barkley and 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:19.360 the sculptors behind the design of his new statue with Charles, 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:21.759 you know, he has to come through with thunder. This 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:26.560 sculpture has to have his presence, It has to show him. 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:29.200 This man was a little bit different in the sense 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:33.680 of how he approached the game. Celebrating Sir Charles. On 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:42.040 this episode of the broadcast, What's Good out There, seventy 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:46.440 six Ers pod people, I'm Brian Seltzer. Grates you with 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:50.519 you on the podcast. As always on this episode of 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:53.280 the podcast, Yes, we are going to dive in to 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:58.200 the Legends Walk sculpture unveiling for a one Sir Charles 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:02.320 Round Bound of Rebound Barkley A great event held at 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:06.679 the seventy Sixers Training Complex on Friday the thirteenth. Charles 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:12.440 was in the house his family, former coaches, teammates, seventy 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:18.440 Sixers executives and staffers who all touched Charles in some 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.600 way shape or form during his time with the seventy 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:25.800 Sixers in the mid nineteen eighties to early nineteen nineties, 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:30.280 a great tenure that laid the foundation for a Hall 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.640 of Fame career for Charles Barkley. So we're gonna talk 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.440 with Barkley. We're also going to speak with the artists 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:39.360 who designed and sculpted the new statue of Charles Barkley 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:44.399 on Legend's Walk. But first, our customary reminder that if 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:47.520 you are not yet a subscriber or a follower of 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:51.520 the podcast, we encourage you to become one right away. 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:55.279 Where just about everywhere you can find pods these days, 0:01:55.880 --> 0:02:04.880 Apple podcasts, Google podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, SoundCloud, tune in overcast, pocketcasts, Deezer. 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:07.960 Just type in Sixers podcast Network and that will take 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:11.600 you to our feed. So yes, we've got interviews with 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:15.760 Charles himself and the design and sculpting team behind the 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:19.320 new statue of Charles Barkley on the way. But first 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.160 I wanted to play some highlights from the ceremony for 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.880 Charles held at the seventy Sixers training complex last week 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:31.040 before his sculpture was formally unveiled on Legend's Walk. I 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:34.040 don't know if I haven't been that skinny. We're gonna 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:37.800 hear from managing partner Josh Harris, co managing partner David Blitzer, 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.880 general manager Elton Brand, and the head coach of the 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:44.800 seventy sixers Brett Brown, putting the significance of Charles Barkley 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:48.160 in their own words, I'm really very, very excited to 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:52.400 be able to honor Charles Barkley, or Sir Charles, or 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:56.200 Street Beef or the round Mound rebound. For you old 0:02:56.200 --> 0:03:01.640 timers that are in the in the audience, Charles, You've 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:05.680 stood for excellence your entire career versus an NBA player 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.680 and now is a leading voice in our sport. Whether 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:10.840 you like it or not, today you are a role model. 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:14.080 I grew up really worshiping him because he was different. 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.600 He was different as a player, he was different as 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.400 a person. He was always real. You talk me to 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:23.160 three bees when it comes to speeches, be brief, brother, 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:27.360 So I'm gonna work on it. It's truly a tremendous 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:30.040 honor to celebrate someone that I looked up to and 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:34.720 emulate it in my game every day. Simply, we are 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.920 privileged to have you a part of our past. You 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:41.600 are referenced often. Your statue is not taken for granted. 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.920 It's not something that just sticks it. We referenced that, 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.320 and for me personally to be able to sit here 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.960 and say that in front of you is a tijuana 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:55.480 a montage about the man, the round Man, Charles Barkley, 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:59.360 And following the unveiling of a sculpture on Legend's Walk, 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.800 we had the opportunity to chant with Charles about what 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.600 the honor means to him, his time with the seventy 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.920 Sixers and the legacy he hopes to leave behind. Why 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:10.760 don't we start with you just walking us through what 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:14.040 your day has been like so far. Tell us about 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:18.800 that here's been a fine day. It's amazing. I really 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:24.080 appreciate the Sixers honoring me. You know, Philadelphia means a 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.320 great deal, you know, to come here as a twenty 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:29.360 one year old kid had never been out of the 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:34.680 South before, and the city welcomed me with open arms. 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:38.680 And then for the opportunity to play with a doctor 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:42.560 j and msim Alone and Bobby Jones, Maurice Cheeks, Andrew, Tony, 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:48.080 Clint Richardson, Clement Johnson. Guys like that, Bobby Jones, who's 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.040 one of the most amazing man I ever been around. 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.200 It was a great situation, you know, because a lot 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:58.040 of times and Billy Cunningham was a great coach also, 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.680 but they taught me more about life than about basketball. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.679 And I was so lucky that a guy like Moses Malone, 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:10.360 who's the most influential person in my basketball career, you know, 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.239 he you know, I asked him one day, it wasn't 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.680 wasn't not it wasn't getting to play, and he said 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:21.280 I was fat and I was lazy, and it's strong obviously, 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.880 but I said, what do you mean. He says, you 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.920 can't play basketball out of shape and at three hundred pounds, 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:34.599 And for a guy that greeted basketball to take the 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:40.839 time to get me in shape, it meant the world 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.640 to me. And he made me lose fifty pounds and 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:49.120 the rest is history, obviously. But if if a guy 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:53.600 liked that didn't care, I wouldn't be sitting here today. 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:57.680 So I was just lucky to come to a great situation. 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:01.680 This is nothing away from the Nie Smith Hall of 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.200 Fame because that is one of the ultimate individual liners 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:07.480 in the sport. You get a jacket there nowadays here 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:11.239 you have a sculpture and artistic embodiment of your likeness 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.760 while you were playing, when you were walking up to 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.839 take the cover off the statue, where you're feeling anxious, 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:18.839 where you're curious, and then when you saw the sculpture, 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.120 when I think of it, well, it's interesting you ask 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:25.440 me that question, because the guy did a fantastic job. 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.080 The guy did a fantastic job it. I said, it 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:33.880 looks like me, but you know, so I got a 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:39.120 statue at my college and the first time I saw 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:44.400 it was awful. Look nothing like me, and it's not 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.479 You're not putting that thing up anywhere. So I say, 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.000 the first time I saw this this thing was when 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:53.240 they asked the unveiled it, and I thought the artists 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:56.800 did a fantastic job. It looks like me. But I 0:06:56.839 --> 0:07:01.719 think the main thing is just the honor the Sixers 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:06.360 did not have to do it. I sincerely thank them 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:11.360 from the bottom of my heart. But it's just a 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:18.080 really cool thing, you know. So every time these guys come, 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.400 they get to see it, but they also get to 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.760 see dog Moses and all those other guys. So it's special. 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.440 And like I said, Philadelphia means a great deal to 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.920 me and I will always be thankful for this city. 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:34.920 It's awesome. What was it like being able to mingle 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.760 and interact with so many people from your life and 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:41.160 your time here in Philadelphia throughout the day, former teammates, 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.720 former coaches, staff members. What was that like? Well, it 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.480 was special because they could have been doing something else. 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.720 You know, we don't see each other that much anymore. 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:55.840 We all live with scout it all over the world. 0:07:56.360 --> 0:08:00.440 You know, sports aren't like people think it is, like 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:02.680 you might play with guys, but once a season over, 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.800 you don't see them in again until the next season. 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:08.320 You know, a lot of guys go back to their 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:13.200 hometown and things like that. So when you see these guys, 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.640 you know, Johnny Dawkins, I'm watching his success as a 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:21.200 college coach now is British special. One of my old teammates, 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.640 Joe Henderson, was great to him. See my old coaches, 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.600 the old actually the old owner of the seventy sixers. 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:30.760 But also you know there's three or four guys who 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.480 worked for the Sixers, and actually Scott Rigo and Adda 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:38.360 Lumpkin are still there. And I saw Running Robina today 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:42.120 who I hadn't seen in a minute. But you know, 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:46.439 the one thing that I said in my speech, nobody's 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:51.240 successful by themselves. And I want to repeat that. Nobody 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:58.960 is successful by themselves. So, as I said, everybody who 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:03.360 went to college with me, who coached me my first 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.240 excuse me. I want to go back to high school. 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:09.040 Every player who played with me in high school, every 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:13.120 player who played with me in college, eight years in Philly, 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:15.960 four years in Phoenix, four years in Houston, every coach 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.640 I ever played for, they get a little piece of 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:24.160 the statue. And because, like I said it, life is 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:28.480 a journey, and there's so many people who've been on 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:34.640 this journey with me. It's amazing. One of the themes 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.160 of the speeches that were given before you got up 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.280 to the podium and spoke was just the generosity of 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.240 your spirit. What's the origin of that? Where does that 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:51.120 come from? Man? I just be nice. You know, you 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:55.880 know you do something stupid like dribble of basketball. You know, 0:09:55.960 --> 0:10:00.480 like I say, there's like three real jobs in the world. Teacher, firing, policeman, doctor. 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.520 You know, I'm not a teacher, I'm not a filming 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.600 and all the police. When those jobs are really important 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.680 and significant, we make a lot of money to dribble 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:12.440 stupid basketball around, get to travel the country in the world, 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.880 you know, work for seven months a year, get three 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:20.600 or four months vacation with the luckiest people in the world. 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:26.720 And I think you should always sign autographs. I think 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.480 you should always take pictures. Is it a pain sometimes? 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.840 Of course it is. But you have to look at 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:36.199 the big picture to be able to dribble a basketball 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.080 and have the things that have happened to me in 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:43.280 my life. Man, I'm just a lucky dude. So I 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:47.320 try to always be cordial to everybody and don't take 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:51.000 myself too serious, and then to build off that. I 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.720 know that when guys are playing, it's probably not something 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.280 that's on the forefront of their mind. But as you're 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:58.520 working your way through your life post plane crew, do 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:00.440 you think much about, like what you want the legacy 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.040 of Charles Barkley to be? You know, if someone had 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:07.240 to write up what your legacy was, well, I don't 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:11.280 think about that too much. What I think about is 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:17.960 when you die, people say, oh, sorry, he's gone. He 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.640 was a good dude. I mean, because you don't want 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.360 to be one of those people says glad he gone. 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:26.439 I mean, and I don't mean that to be more 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.600 better whatever. I don't want people to cry for a 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.040 week when I kill over. I'm not afraid of death. 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:35.080 I know it's coming, but I mean, let's be realistic. 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:39.800 When some people die, we're glad they're gone. That's just 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:45.760 I want people to say, oh, good dude, and that's it. 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.680 But like I said, I don't want to my legacy 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:51.560 is when I kill over. I don't want people to 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:53.679 be able to say I don't want them having part 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:58.680 said I'm glad he's gone. Charles Barkley hard to find 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:03.280 too many people like Chuck and just really a lot 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:06.040 of fun and awesome to have the opportunity to sit 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:09.640 down with him and talk the day of his sculpture 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:13.160 unveiling on Legend's Walk here at the seventy six ers 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.960 Training Complex, And it really was amazing that the recurring 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:22.200 theme for virtually everyone who spoke in tribute to Charles 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.640 up on the podium during the ceremony last week, the 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.959 recurring theme was one of Charles just always giving back, 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:33.640 never being too big. Despite all of his fame and success, 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:38.760 he has this genuine, good natured wanting to make others 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:43.120 feel good. Aspect of his personality that he's carried with 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:47.560 him really for the majority of his life. Just a 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:52.760 really excellent guy. Hey, some really exciting news from seventy 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:55.400 six Ers land In recent days. The team has announced 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:57.959 the details for its annual Blue and White Scrimmage. It's 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.240 gonna be held Saturday, October fifth at one o'clock at 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:04.440 seventy Sixers Field House in Delaware in Wilmington. It's the 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.400 home of the Sixers ge League affiliate, the Delaware Bluecoats. 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.640 Tickets are free, but to secure them, you've got to 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:14.000 sign up for the sixth Man fan newsletter that's going 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.440 to have all the information about how to sign up 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.120 for free tickets to the Sixers Blue and White Scrimmage 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:23.000 at seventy Sixers Fieldhouse in Wilmington, Saturday, October fifth at 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.800 one o'clock. To sign up for the Sixers sixth Man 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:30.440 Fan Newsletter, go to Sixers dot com slash sixth Man. 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.199 The other interview we have for you on this episode 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:39.840 of the podcast is a conversation with three guys who 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:45.600 really formed the brain trust behind the design, execution, installation 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:50.360 of the Charles Barclay sculpture on Legends Walk from Fisher Sculpture. 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:54.400 It's Chad Fisher, co founder and lead sculptor on the project. 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.480 His father Fran another one of the co founders of 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:01.439 Fisher Sculpture, and Doug crew Girl, who was the assistant 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:06.240 of Chad Fisher on this project. Official Sculpture has created 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:10.360 each of the now eight statues on seventy six Ers 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.680 Legends Walk. And we started the conversation with Chad and 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.480 I asked him how was it that his family's company 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.400 got to be involved in this initiative in the first place. 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:25.760 We got involved when Moses Malone passed. We have friends 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:30.320 over at NFL Films and they suggested that we should 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.800 reach out to the seventy six Ers because they will 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:38.200 probably do a statue for Moses. And so we reached 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:42.240 out and said, you know, if there's any interest in 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:46.160 doing a statue of Moses, we would like to participate somehow, 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.480 some way of honoring him. My dad. You know, we're 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:53.560 from the Philadelphia area. My dad porn in Philly, so 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:57.320 you know, we're pretty we have an emotional connection to 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:01.560 the Sixers and you know, four or five or five teams, 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:06.120 you know, and uh, it was it was important not 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:10.200 only to my father and to myself to honor Moses 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:14.560 if possible, UM bringing the championship, and you know, my 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:19.600 dad always talked about him and Julius, and so when 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.640 we reached out UM, we then had a meeting with 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:28.240 Chris and Chris Heck and Katie O'Reilly and they proposed 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:34.280 doing a walk outside of their new facility which was 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:38.600 being built, which would honor all other retired numbers and 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:42.680 it would be called their Legends Walk. And at first like, 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:46.880 it's great, you know, um that that's that's going to 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.880 be incredible. Why don't we do well, are we going 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:52.840 to do portraits of them? Like how do you want 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:55.400 to organize this? And they said no, we would actually 0:15:55.440 --> 0:16:00.320 like to have the full figure in this space, just 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.880 outside of one of the buildings. And it's like, oh wow, 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:08.680 we get an opportunity to actually make the figure in motion, 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:10.680 so it's not just doing a portrait. We get to 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:22.880 compose these little harmonized I guess designs of basketball players 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:26.360 that hasn't been done before. So because really, you know, 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:29.000 there may be a basketball player here or there at 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.680 a stadium or you know, at a facility, but to 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:36.000 have this what Christ has described as an outside gallery 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:41.200 for the seventy six ers was phenomenal. So as soon 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.840 as that conversation took place, we got started and it's like, 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:49.480 how can we You know, we're all about harmony, so 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:53.480 we wanted to have each figure in harmony. But then 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.440 we also wanted them to be unique in their own way, 0:16:56.520 --> 0:17:00.240 so they'd have their own anatomy, their own personality, and 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:05.200 each one would be a piece of art in itself, 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:11.919 but also they would be one unit of legends that 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:16.440 any viewer could observe and see differences and similarities within them. 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:21.480 So it has I have grown so much through this 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:26.280 project because it's been challenging on one end and it's 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:28.919 just been so satisfying on another end, and it's just 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:32.600 been wonderful. It is a really awesome point of pride 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.280 just speaking to someone who comes into the building day end, 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.920 day out, like you look forward to making that walk 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.199 at least I do, from the business office, which is 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.000 where I work, to the Basketball Operations building because you 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:46.240 get to have a glimpse of these statues and figurines 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:49.280 on a regular basis. And now, as you said, I mean, 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:51.280 this isn't the first one. We're starting to get up 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.560 there where I won't give away any spoilers, but after 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:57.199 the installation of Charles Barkley, there's two left in the series, 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:58.680 so we're kind of getting there and you can see 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:00.320 it all come together and fan I gotta because it 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:02.639 almost like, I don't know if bitter sweet is the 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.000 right word, but it really is. Now the whole vision 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:08.879 coming together with this project. It's both. It's interesting that 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:12.840 seeing the lineup and talking to the points of harmony 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:15.639 and how they all work together with the ball moving 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:19.080 up and down as you go through the lineup, it 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:21.400 is bitter sweet to see just the last two, which 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:26.800 we won't talk about yet to be installed shortly. But 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:31.080 it's been a wonderful journey with the Sixers. We're probably 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:35.840 four years into this from first discussion to today, and 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:45.720 it's been a wonderful experience. We have helped make the players, 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:50.919 the staff, and I think the fans see a different 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:54.359 aspect and Chad and our team has had the opportunity 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:59.119 to create true fine arts sculpture and bridge the gap 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:04.360 between worts and fine art sculpture and portray harmony excellent portraiture, 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:08.560 and it helps the fan base actually become fans of 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:13.280 good fine art no question, Chad. It starts with hal 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.919 Greer and then it goes through different eras and periods 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:19.480 of the seventy six ers in their history. Talking about 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:24.520 the sculptures on the Legends Walk, what distinguishes this specific 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:28.560 sculpture of Charles Barkley from the other installments in the series. 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:32.800 So with this one, yeah, and it does with Charles 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:35.359 that you know, he has to come through with thunder. 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:39.639 You know, like this sculpture has to have his presence. 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:42.560 Not only you know, it has to look like him, 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:46.440 but it also has to be you know, his movements, 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:49.119 So it has to have some personality, it has to 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.119 it had. The idea of the sculptures is to present 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:55.000 the souls of the figure, so they're just not mannequins. 0:19:55.040 --> 0:20:01.280 And that's where that's what differentiates fine art from other stuff, 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:04.879 which is it's not factory work. It's fine arts. So 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:09.840 they breathe and they have a soul. And with Charles, 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:11.800 it's like, you know, he has to come through with thunder, 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:14.600 he has to come through with power. You know, his anatomy. 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:17.600 I mean, he was just a very well built man. 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:21.040 I mean his his calves are huge, uh, you know, 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:24.480 and just like so I've analyzed Will and I've analyzed 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:28.199 how Greer, and I've analyzed like Bobby Jones, and then 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:33.640 you analyze Charles anatomy and his his caves are enormous. 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:36.760 I don't believe how big his arms are, Like, I mean, 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:41.359 he's very well built. And then the fact that he 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:46.680 had this athleticism and finesse. It's it was. It was 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:49.880 a delight going back through highlights and going back through 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:56.360 all of his different you know, uh, poster material photographs 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:59.640 with Chris and Katie and we worked with des Ron 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.719 and my going it's just and Jacqueline. It's just like 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:06.479 going through everything with the Sixers team of saying like 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:11.920 does this represent Charles's best and we it's really been 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:15.760 like a collaboration with the Sixers. It's like because it's 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:18.200 not like this is what we're doing. It's more of 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:22.040 been like, all right, let's do this, but like can 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:25.000 we push it a little bit? You know, how how 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:27.159 much can we take this to the edge of the 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:30.440 engineering and the anatomy to make this the best work 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:34.480 of art possible? And so Charles, Yeah, he's coming through 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:37.760 with some power. That's the idea is to his differential 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:43.560 is just it has to be. It has to show him, 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:47.600 you know, as he stepped on the court that this 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:50.120 man was a little bit different in the sense of 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:54.360 how he approached the game. These probably aren't the finest 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:56.679 details of the piece, but Doug, something that jumped out 0:21:56.720 --> 0:21:59.040 to me was even down to like the seventy Sixers 0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:02.560 logo on the warm up shorts for Charles that in 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:04.560 the pose on this sculpture when he's going up for 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:06.720 the tomahawk dunk, like the shorts are raised and you 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:10.119 can see the Sixers logo. The detail on the sneakers 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:12.840 give us some insight. Dug on more of what Chad 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:15.240 was talking about, the depths that you guys go to 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:19.040 and researching the subjects that you're sculpting, the lengths do 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.320 you go to to make sure that all the details 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:23.760 are there in the piece. Well, I've only been working 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:28.000 with Chad for a few projects now, but I've already witnessed, yeah, 0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:33.480 just how intensely he researches things, and he goes as 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:35.920 far as to order, you know, pairs of shoes off 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:38.920 at eBay that he finds that are the exact match 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:41.600 of the shoes he's looking for. And really I've seen 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:45.560 stacks and stacks of photocopies of every angle he can 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:48.080 find of, you know, the subject matter to make sure 0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:52.240 the portraits right on, and the whole stance and position 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:55.840 of everything. So yeah, the details are what early makes 0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:59.560 it true to that person and the whole era and 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:03.879 the sport itself. So that's amazing, Like that something that 0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:06.119 just the layman and myself would never think of. Of course, 0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:08.680 like yeah, you order the shoes, it's just going to 0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:11.240 give you that much a better sense of what these 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:15.239 guys are wearing. What is it like for you? And 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:17.159 I can ask guys, since since you guys have been 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:19.359 with it from the start, Chad and France, what's it 0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:22.480 like for you the day of the sculpture unveiling when 0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:24.720 you're here. I know you've brought family in the past, 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:27.600 you obviously are a family, but to be here to 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:30.480 see I would presume some of your heroes having this 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:34.119 moment and being honored in this way. What is that 0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:39.760 day like for you? Guys? It's very specials and the 0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:44.399 Sixers make it special, you know, um, you know we 0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:48.000 they're open to inviting my kids and it becomes this 0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:52.199 whole thing of teaching. It's a teaching point for me 0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:56.840 as a father and and the history of the game, 0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:05.399 what basketball represent and what um human achievement represents, and 0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:11.160 why these players are being revered with a bronze statue, 0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:15.440 Like what did they do? Um and so um? When 0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:17.679 I was when it was Julius Irving, I was showing 0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:23.399 my kids um different YouTube videos and different images and 0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:26.119 him dunking from the foul line, and you know, just 0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:29.960 showing them as much as possible who this man was 0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.720 to the history of the game with the ABA, how 0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:37.560 he changed. My daughters are now playing basketball within their 0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:42.159 school be just it really has an effect. And you know, 0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:45.000 the cities are great because they're they're just so warm 0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:49.560 to my family and so that's been wonderful. But I 0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:51.920 remember my daughter when I said, you know, mister Irving, 0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:53.560 do you mind taking a picture with my family? My 0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:59.159 daughter's like he touched me. So they they've learned to 0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:04.679 look at them with admiration as I did because of 0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:07.760 the way my father spoke with them. And whether it's 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:13.480 the earlier figures like Hal Greer, who has unfortunately passed 0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:17.280 since his statue, but he was able to see himself 0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:22.360 immortalized in bronze and I think that's a really special 0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:25.879 moment for you know, you see your when you question 0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:28.919