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Speaker 1: Hi. I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

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Speaker 3: Relationships and what it's like to be siblings.

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Speaker 1: We are a sibling, Railval No, no, sibling. You don't

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Speaker 1: do that with your mouth, Ravelry.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I can't believe this. I'm finally back to do

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Speaker 4: a podcast. I've I've just wrapped my show for Netflix,

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Speaker 4: and I've been so excited to come back. And then

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Speaker 4: of course, the second I'm like, yeah, let's do this,

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Speaker 4: I can come back, my brother's like I can't make it.

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Speaker 4: So I am solo today, which I I'm actually excited about.

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Speaker 4: I don't get to do this very often. And I

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Speaker 4: am interviewing a sabling pair that I'm very excited to

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Speaker 4: talk to, Megan Trainer and Ryan Trainor and just super

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Speaker 4: fitting as my album is out right now and I'm

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Speaker 4: sort of entering this whole new stratosphere for me that

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Speaker 4: I get to talk to some musicians who are about

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Speaker 4: to go out on a tour and has an album

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Speaker 4: coming out. So, without further ado, let's let in Megan

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Speaker 4: and Ryan Trainer. You guys, I'm so happy this worked out.

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Speaker 4: My brother is okay, he's fine. Okay, he's fine. He

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Speaker 4: had a last minute thing he had to do and

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Speaker 4: I was bummed. But it's so funny because I've I've

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Speaker 4: been out, so I've been like working and haven't been

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Speaker 4: able to do any podcasts, and oll of Her has

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Speaker 4: been doing a bunch of them and then finally I

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Speaker 4: come back and he's like, I can't or like soloing

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Speaker 4: through life right now?

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Speaker 2: We do it all the time.

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Speaker 1: That's why, especially I've been so busy recently. So Ryan's

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Speaker 1: been just going live for our podcast. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of nice, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: It's nice to be like, oh, I can't be there,

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Speaker 1: but the show won't like end, you know.

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Speaker 2: Stop.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, where are you guys right now? You're in like

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Speaker 4: some sort of getting drives in the background.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. We I'm in the middle of moving and I'm

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Speaker 1: doing a music video tomorrow same day as moving day. Okaynighting.

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Speaker 1: That's just how things landed. And so this is a mess.

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Speaker 1: We got some moving boxes.

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Speaker 2: Behind me, so you're you're a moving house.

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Speaker 1: I'm moving into a different house on the same day

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Speaker 1: of doing a music video for my song called Whoops.

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Speaker 2: And now you have an album coming out, like, yes,

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Speaker 2: like in a week.

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Speaker 1: It's called Timeless. Yes, are you so excited? Oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: so excited. I'm so busy. I don't really know what

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Speaker 1: day it is and what's going on. But it's great.

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Speaker 1: I love glorious, I love your music.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. It's been so much fun.

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Speaker 4: But man, let me tell you, I mean respect to

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Speaker 4: anyone who enters the music industry.

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Speaker 2: It is a wild, wild ride.

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Speaker 4: It's one thing to like love music and want to

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Speaker 4: make music, and it's another thing to then make it

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Speaker 4: and then put it out there and then have to

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Speaker 4: follow through with touring and promoting. And it's it's Megan.

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Speaker 3: Megan's always like Ryan, I wish you were this singer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, I always see you and I

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Speaker 1: just write the song way too hard.

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Speaker 3: I have a blast on that. You know, I'm taking pictures,

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Speaker 3: I'm traveling all as well. You do too much work?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like, stop doing so much, But I don't

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Speaker 1: know what.

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Speaker 2: That's not how it works, bro I. So so let's

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Speaker 2: sort of.

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Speaker 4: Like we always start with when we get into sort

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Speaker 4: of the sibling dynamic with just like the basics, like

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Speaker 4: how many of them are you?

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Speaker 2: How many trainer siblings are there.

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Speaker 1: There's three of us and I'm in the middle. There's

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Speaker 1: another boy who's a year and a half younger than

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Speaker 1: me or two younger than me. So we were all

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Speaker 1: like a year apart. We're very close in age, and

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Speaker 1: we're very close now and growing up we wasn't so close.

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Speaker 3: We were kids. We're very close. Middle school, yeah, some

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Speaker 3: of high school and then you know, I was like,

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Speaker 4: I was like, please be my bestie. What's the age, Stip,

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Speaker 4: who are you the oldest? You're the oldest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the oldest. I'm a year in five days.

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Speaker 3: Younger, almost Irish twins.

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Speaker 2: And then the and then your younger brother.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty eight, so he's two years younger than me.

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Speaker 1: We're pretty close. My mom was twenty four when she

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Speaker 1: started having kids and my dad was forty three. So

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Speaker 2: Cute And then so okay, so where did you guys?

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Speaker 2: Where were you raised?

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Speaker 1: Nantucket Island?

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, this is like the all American like

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Speaker 4: like clambakes all day long, like Fridays.

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Speaker 1: And fish days. Yeah, and like if you didn't wear

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Speaker 1: white pants, you weren't invited, and I was always wearing

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Speaker 1: black leggings.

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Speaker 4: Wait wait, I'm actually really surprised, but I didn't realize

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Speaker 4: anyone really actually grew up on Nantucket. It sort of

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Speaker 4: feels like the place where you vacation. Nor people go

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Speaker 4: and they have their summer homes, but they live in

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Speaker 4: Boston or they live like.

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Speaker 1: That baffles us because like I'm like, oh, I want

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Speaker 1: to get as far as possible, you know, Like I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, California has palm trees. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: like nice weather.

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Speaker 2: But that's probably was pretty idyllic growing up.

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Speaker 1: The safety part of it was nice until like like

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Speaker 1: we never had to worry about locking our house or

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Speaker 1: break ins or locking door.

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Speaker 3: Always played in the neighborhood and we're like running all

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Speaker 3: over the neighborhood is a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of like kidnaps or murders.

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Speaker 3: And we knew Mom was always on edge because she

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Speaker 3: watched the Lifetime every day. Anytime we went to the

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Speaker 3: Cape to the mall, that was a big trip for us,

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Speaker 3: she would drag me into the women's restroom. I'm eleven,

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Speaker 3: I'm like six feet tall. I'm just like, I'm so

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Speaker 3: sorry my mom doesn't want me to get taken.

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Speaker 1: The cap cod was big city for us, you know,

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Speaker 1: like we didn't have a mall growing up, so we

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Speaker 1: were like the mall tho was Disneyland.

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Speaker 3: Fridays at the mall was like.

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Speaker 1: We were in California, like Disneyland.

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Speaker 4: Wait, this is so this is so isolated, like we

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Speaker 4: did not. We basically grew up the opposite. We were like,

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Speaker 4: like we traveled all over the world and we were

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Speaker 4: much more you know, I mean, I couldn't imagine. It's

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Speaker 4: also like island life could kind of make you go

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Speaker 4: a little crazy, right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, And there's not like places for teens to

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Speaker 3: And in the woods we already get a couple of palaces,

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, isn't that what happens when you

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Speaker 4: start to become teenagers. I would think that in those

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Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunately for our parents. Yeah, parents, they were the best.

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Speaker 1: We were good. You were crazy, but we didn't get caught,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like we were safe. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you were like so charming you convinced the cops to.

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Speaker 2: Let you go.

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Speaker 3: I was great at talking to the police. Yes, but

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Speaker 3: they were also like my friends already knew you there,

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Speaker 1: Ryan, Like some days you would avoid the grocery store

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Speaker 1: so I was like I can't pick up like my tampons.

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Speaker 1: They're like, what am I going to do?

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Speaker 4: You know this is so so how so how often

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Speaker 4: did you get off the island as kids?

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Speaker 1: If it was like sports?

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Speaker 3: Maybe they took us on amazing vacations, but it always

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Speaker 1: Cape, then a two hour drive Boston.

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Speaker 3: Yep, and then fly out from Boston. So we went

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Speaker 3: to Hawaii. That was amazing, wed fly Yeah, Boston, LA.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe that was the best Christmas gift ever. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They were like my mom did a scavenger hunt we like,

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Speaker 1: had to solve the riddle and it was like, we're

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Speaker 3: It was like very rarely did we go. We would

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you'd take a boat, you know. Like when

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Speaker 2: I thought it was the coolest thing ever.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm like, I don't want to get on this plane.

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Speaker 2: I wonder, like I want, are your parents still together?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: You guys had like the best possible child ever, like

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Speaker 4: to be that inside, to be like to grow up

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Speaker 4: be the best thing for them. Do you ever like

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Speaker 4: look back on it and think, why am I not

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Speaker 4: giving this to my kids?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: I would never.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I want to isolate them in a

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Speaker 1: But not on the island. I would never. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: do that just because I don't know. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: a lot of things. I feel. I feel like we

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Speaker 1: had to learn the hard way of like I don't

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Speaker 1: know getting out into the world, and the world is scary.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people stay because they're just like I

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Speaker 1: We didn't have highways, you know, we didn't have traffic lights. Like,

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Speaker 1: tall buildings scare me, big trees scare me.

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Speaker 3: Like I get excited by kind of like the big

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Speaker 3: city for a moment, and then I'm ready to leave.

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Speaker 3: But Megan is just like when we're in New York City,

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Speaker 3: She's just it's it's too much to humans.

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Speaker 1: There's too many things.

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Speaker 2: No, no, No, are your parents still in Nantucket?

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Speaker 1: No? I jogged him out here. Like my dad they

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Speaker 1: were jewelers together, and they like made jewelry and sold

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Speaker 1: it on Nantucket. But and my dad was like, I'm

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Speaker 1: And I was like, what if you were tired and

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Speaker 1: you came out here and helped me every day? And

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Speaker 1: my mom is My mom is now my assistant, and

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Speaker 1: my dad hangs up all the art in our house

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Speaker 2: What about you, Ryan.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the deal. I don't pick something up. I go,

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Speaker 3: I just like to have a really good time. I'm

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Speaker 3: I am so happy to be talking to you and

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Speaker 3: I'm so honored and like it's crazy to me, but

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Speaker 1: He studied them a few episodes.

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Speaker 3: I was ready to have someone like understand me, because

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Speaker 2: We understand you.

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Speaker 1: No, Yeah, I dragged him along for everything, and but

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Speaker 2: Come on.

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Speaker 1: My younger brother produces.

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Speaker 2: Oh so he so younger brother.

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00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 1: You brother makes tracksst Yeah, he's a lyricist and that

442
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 1: dude can make crazy cool beats.

443
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 3: I'm a good hang.

444
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,479
Speaker 2: Well, it's like that is like Alie. I always hit Alie.

445
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 2: He's such a he's such a great writer and he's

446
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,199
Speaker 2: such a good poet that I'm like, you should be

447
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 2: writing lyrics.

448
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, people, like a lot of people are like, I

449
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,239
Speaker 1: don't know how you do it. It's so hard. I'm like,

450
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 1: once you figured out once, like it's kind of just

451
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 1: a pattern, and then you got it, and then it's

452
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 1: just like, how what's another way of saying this?

453
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 4: You know?

454
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean writing a good song is actually pretty hard.

455
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 1: Oh it's so hard, but it's so hard, but I

456
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: try to convince people it's easy though. I'm like, come on,

457
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 1: joining it, we can do it together.

458
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 2: It is the most fun. But you know, it's funny,

459
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 2: like all things need to come together to make a

460
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 2: great song, you know, No, no, I I.

461
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 3: Just Megan doesn't. Megan doesn't understand the gift that she has.

462
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 3: So she writes these in a day, and I'm like,

463
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,880
Speaker 3: how the fun did you just? I'm doing a couple

464
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 3: of words, okaying, melodies.

465
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 1: Praises it was good.

466
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 4: Some people, some people have that like very prolific ability,

467
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 4: you know, where they can with music, where you know,

468
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 4: you just get in like a zone and you can write,

469
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 4: like in one day, just all of a sudden, you

470
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 4: have a fully formed, really interesting song.

471
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 2: You know.

472
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's usually how I do it, because I'm also

473
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 1: too lazy to go back and work on it again.

474
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 1: Oh really, it's good, let's be done.

475
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 2: It's perfect.

476
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 3: You also do something which I think.

477
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 4: Maybe you do have ADHD maybe the theme and the family.

478
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 3: She knows how to use it though, she like she

479
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 3: does her homework, so the night before she's like comes

480
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 3: up with the idea so that she shows up with

481
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 3: the writers and the producers the next day. So guys,

482
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Speaker 3: I have an idea of what do you think?

483
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always good, fully prepared if I'm running for

484
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 1: myself or someone else, Like if we finally get to

485
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: get in the studio together, I'll cry. I'll have a

486
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 1: whole course of an idea or like three ideas and

487
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 1: be like, if you hate this, we could do this

488
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 1: if not, because I never want to go in empty

489
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 1: and be like, so how are you feeling? And like,

490
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 1: may g it a tough therapy session? Like I'm like,

491
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: what if we did something fun and cool and like this?

492
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 1: You know?

493
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 4: I like that kind of that, like entering songwriting sessions

494
00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 4: with energy. It's like I'm there, but everybody's different. Like

495
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 4: I like powering through things me too, Like I don't

496
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 4: even if it's bad, it's like just power through it

497
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 4: and you can always go back and be like I

498
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 4: hated that lyric.

499
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 2: I hate the freezing.

500
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 4: You can kind of sit with it for a second,

501
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 4: but like get it done. Yeah, you know, And I

502
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 4: think when what for me at least when I that's

503
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 4: when things started to really click with writing, was like, oh,

504
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 4: just like write the bad lyric, just like.

505
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: Write it out, get it out, don't keep it in

506
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: and then and then you can kind of strip away,

507
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 2: or you can restructure, you can take the bridge and

508
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: be like, actually that's actually a better chorus. Like you know,

509
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 2: but don't stop. Oh yeah, very rarely in writing. Now

510
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: do I like stop writing the song? You know?

511
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: I need yeah, I need something finished so that when

512
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: I go to bed, then I can listen to it

513
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: all night till I fall asleep.

514
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: Is that kind of like did you get that for

515
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 3: like acting too? Of just like doing the scene over

516
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 3: and over and just be like I'm gonna just do it,

517
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 3: do it, do it?

518
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: And then also what do you like more acting or singing?

519
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 3: We have so many.

520
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: Questions, great question. I like them both. They're so different,

521
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 2: you know, even though like you can't you can you

522
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 2: bring certain things I think similarly.

523
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 4: To each, but but they're just so different, like to

524
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 4: me acting, you know you acting is it is as

525
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 4: much of a grind as say maybe being on tours.

526
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 4: But it's like even I think more of a grind,

527
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 4: you know, tour, like you get the day you can

528
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 4: like sit in the you know, you can you can

529
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 4: have you know, room service, and then you got to

530
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 4: go to sound check and then you you know, it's

531
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 4: a nighttime gig and you get energy and it's fun

532
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 4: and you might be tired after doing it for a while,

533
00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 4: but like you have more time to yourself, whereas I

534
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 4: depending on where.

535
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 2: You are in the cycle of your album.

536
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 4: But when you're on a movie like what I'm the

537
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 4: show I just did, I'm working thirteen to fifteen hour

538
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 4: days every day, all day. There's no like, there's no like,

539
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 4: you know, I'll get up at ten and how you.

540
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: Know amazing though, like what if your tie tie?

541
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 4: I mean I think I think that that's kind of

542
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 4: what if you like where you say, what do you

543
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 4: like better? It's like when I'm in that grind with

544
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 4: a team of people on a show and you love it.

545
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 4: There's nothing there's It's just so fun because the work

546
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 4: is good and the people are amazing.

547
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 2: The thing for me with music is that it is

548
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 2: my like number one love. Like I singing.

549
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 4: And writing and being in music is like where I'm

550
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 4: where I am happiest.

551
00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: So I'm finding that even though it's it's it's new,

552
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: it's new. The process of this is new. But like

553
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 2: I've music's been, music is like everything to me, you know,

554
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 2: So that's mine I would say it's probably has always

555
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: been my number one, but now that I'm.

556
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 4: Actually doing it, it's like, I feel it's sort of

557
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 4: changed the way I feel about my life. I'm like

558
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 4: much happier and more I don't know, I feel like

559
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 4: I'm doing what I should be doing now more than ever.

560
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: We want to get into acting eventually, but my my

561
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: husband's an actor. He was in all like those spy

562
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: kids movies and a bunch of other stuff. And he

563
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: always laughs at me and he's like, you would hate acting,

564
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: And I was like, what do you mean. He's like,

565
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: you would crush it and you would be great, but

566
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: you would hate sitting there waiting for them to call

567
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: it you like, you would go nuts.

568
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 4: I still love the world. You sit there, you literally

569
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 4: sit there. I was thinking about it the other day

570
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 4: because I'm on the show with all these amazing people,

571
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 4: and I was like, God, if I didn't like these people,

572
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 4: i'd be miserable right now. But I but it's the

573
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 4: same thing, like you know when you're like in the

574
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 4: pocket with something and and I think this is where,

575
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 4: like any like all creative people kind of lean to

576
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: want to do both, whether it's acting or music, It's

577
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 4: like when you're in the pocket and nothing else is,

578
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 4: nothing else exists, You're just like super present and what

579
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 4: you're doing there's no better feeling. I think dancers feel

580
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 4: that too. I feel that in both. You know, I'll

581
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 4: have days when i'm acting where like I'll be doing

582
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 4: a scene and I'm just so focused in it that

583
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 4: when I'm done, I like, nothing feels better.

584
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: When you're down and you're like, I crush that Is

585
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: it like that?

586
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 4: It's well, it's more like it's more like feeling like

587
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 4: I feel like it's like gratitude.

588
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: It's like that thing where you're like, God, I'm just

589
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: so happy I get to do I get to do this,

590
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: you know.

591
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 4: And I think I feel the same when I'm singing,

592
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 4: Like I kind of blacked one time I'm doing all

593
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 4: this stuff.

594
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: I felt like I've been thrown into the fire. I

595
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: kind of blacked out.

596
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: I was like.

597
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 2: I just was like singing. I just was like in it.

598
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: And then when I was done, I looked.

599
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: At everyone I was like, was that okay? Like I

600
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: was like, I was like on the Boys, I feel

601
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: like you did that on the Voice, you like close

602
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: your eyes and you look so happy. I've only done

603
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: that blackout thing once. Like usually performance is like scary

604
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: for me, or I'm having fun, I'm getting through it.

605
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: One time, I fully blacked out and let go, and

606
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: it felt like like I've never had that feeling ever again.

607
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 1: And it was for Quincy Jones for his birthday. I sang,

608
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: you don't owe me, and I've never been more afraid

609
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: of anything in my life. Like I was like, why

610
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: am I invited? Why am I here? And Oprah was

611
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: in the front row. I was like, I'm gonna throw up.

612
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm so afraid. And I was like, just do the

613
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: very best you possibly can do, and I closed my

614
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: eyes and I remember I was like soaring, like I

615
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: was on so different kind of high at the end

616
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: because I was like I did it, you know, I

617
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: was like I wish. I was like, oh, that's what

618
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: everyone's talking about.

619
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: Isn't that amazing?

620
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: Though?

621
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 4: When you can disappear, when you're like when you when

622
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 4: that happens, it's just I.

623
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: Was like, am I gonna faint? Like this is sick.

624
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: It's so fun.

625
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny you just said Quincy's birthday Because

626
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 4: I remember when I was a little girl, my mom

627
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 4: sang at.

628
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: Once at one of Quincy's birthday and she.

629
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 4: You know that I got you under my skin, you know,

630
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 4: she's she's saying, I got cue under my skin.

631
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: And I remember her practicing.

632
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 4: In our living room and uh. And then not that

633
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 4: long ago, I saw her and Quincy kind of talking,

634
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 4: you know, because our friend were very you know, our

635
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 4: families are close. But I saw them talking and I

636
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 4: was thinking about their history, meaning like everything that Quincy

637
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 4: has done, the history of his life, what is spectacular life?

638
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 4: And then looking at my mom and then I kind

639
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 4: of had this moment. I'm like, wow, I wonder how

640
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 4: much fucking fun these guys had in the seventies, Like,

641
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 4: oh my, yeah, way more fun than we've ever had.

642
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 4: They were partying and having a fucking blast.

643
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm like working my ass off. And

644
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: then my therapist is like, where's your serotonin? And I

645
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: was like, humph. She's like what do you do for serotonin?

646
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: Like what fun things do you do just by yourself?

647
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: That's not like hanging out with your kids and like

648
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: the obvious ones. And I was like, I don't understand

649
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: what She's like. You need to find things that make

650
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: you happy and like, I feel like back in the day,

651
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: everyone would party and celebrate. But my little voice can't

652
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: handle that. I'm like, if you want me to sing,

653
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: I have to like never drink and never speak and

654
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: never like party like that, or I'll have no voice

655
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: and then i have no job.

656
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: But they did. They celebrated each other, they celebrated life.

657
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 4: And I'm jealous of those moments. And they're glamorous lives.

658
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 4: It was like so so interesting.

659
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: With no phones. It was just like right here, just

660
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: like looking at each other in the eyes.

661
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 2: Miss it, you, guys, I can imagine. I can really imagine.

662
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 4: I'm ready to throw my fucking phone into the ocean.

663
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm over it. I life without. Have you heard

664
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: this new dumb phone thing?

665
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 4: I think everyone should be doing it?

666
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: Old are your kids, Megan.

667
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: They're three, but I've seen the addiction. I know, so

668
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: so My thing.

669
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: Is this, I I really do.

670
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 4: I've talked about this on the podcast Oliver and I've

671
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 4: talked about it.

672
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: I think they're the devil. I think that kids, they

673
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: should be completely Smartphones should be banned in schools, period period.

674
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: Kids should have pagers and no Kia flip phones like

675
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: we did.

676
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: We have the Apple thing you could stick on their watch,

677
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: like we could talk them.

678
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if they need a phone, like give them

679
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 4: a phone so that they can call home, if there's

680
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 4: a number whatever. You know, there's no more payphones anymore

681
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 4: in the world.

682
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like, but but you realize that now they're

683
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: doing all this research. You realize when you have a

684
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: flip phone you have, you were not going to all

685
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: of these even looking something up on the internet.

686
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: Was it a nightmare back then?

687
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but even you wouldn't do it if you

688
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 4: had your flip phone. So you actually talk to a

689
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 4: person instead of interrupting conversations to then have to like research,

690
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 4: you know, whatever it is you're talking about. It's like, no,

691
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 4: actually sit and have a long ass conversation with someone

692
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 4: where you're completely uninterrupted, and it's so rare.

693
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why I like FaceTime anymore. I don't call

694
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: people anymore FaceTime. I'm like, I need to see your emotions.

695
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: I need I will cold FaceTime you at a random

696
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: ass time. I do not give am. I will be like, IBM,

697
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: I'm the.

698
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 4: Same people are People are like what is happening? People

699
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 4: I don't even know? I FaceTime Like, oh, yeah.

700
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: Sorry, I cold facetimed you. I just got your number

701
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: high all the time. No, I know why. Yeah, oh my.

702
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 4: Gosh so so so what so you're three years into

703
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 4: being a mom.

704
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: How old are you, Megan, I'm thirty. Oh so okay.

705
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: So so you've had them for in this day and

706
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: age that's considered young.

707
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: Yeh.

708
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

709
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: All my mom friends were like ten years older than me.

710
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: And I remember one time we had like a mom's

711
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: dinner night and I was like, this is so fancy,

712
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, like it was so noise. We were like

713
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: at one of their houses, at a big long table

714
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: outside and I was like, oh my god. We were

715
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: all talking about our birth experiences and yeah. Then they

716
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: started talking about places we should go and like relaxed

717
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: and they were like, oh, let's go to Ohi And

718
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I've been there. I don't know

719
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: if that's where we should I'm thinking Ohio. I thought.

720
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: They were just like yeah, and they fucking laughed so

721
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: hard at me. They were like what. I was like,

722
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: I don't know places or things. I'm really young. I

723
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: just like I'm I'm from Island. I was like, I've

724
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: been to Ohio. I don't know what you're talking about.

725
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: They were like, it's so quaint and.

726
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: Like place to vacation.

727
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 2: I was like, how is that for you? Ryan? Seeing

728
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: your sister become a mom?

729
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 3: Did you say big? First pregnancy? Jimmy John's every day

730
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 3: so Kevin Hart's wife, she works out, she looks pretty pregnant.

731
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: He got me my trainer, He got me my trainer.

732
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: I did.

733
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: I just.

734
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: Every time, every time I would walk out my bedroom,

735
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: he would be there because it was the living room,

736
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: and he was like, oh my god.

737
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: I was like, well, are they how old? What's the

738
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: age difference?

739
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: One is three and when is eleven months old?

740
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 2: Oh?

741
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 4: Okay, so first one you you you went in, You

742
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 4: went in.

743
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 1: I went in. But yeah, but I lost the most

744
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: way I've ever lost, and then learned how to be healthy.

745
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 1: And I beat my genetics on the second pregnancy, so

746
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: I didn't have gestational diabetes. And I think it's because

747
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: I worked out and ate clean clean, And once I

748
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: saw that baby's face, my firstborn, I was like, Oh,

749
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna live forever and be as healthy as I

750
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: possibly can for you, and I, yeah, I can't.

751
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: Feel like this.

752
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: Also, like picking up these toddlers. You gotta be some

753
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: type of fit. Yeah, walking up done twice a day. No,

754
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: I want two more. I want daughtas. I just got

755
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: these boys. I love these boys, but I need my daughter.

756
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah you do. Let me tell you it. Look listen,

757
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 2: nothing against you, Ryan, And I'm sure the little dudes

758
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: in my house boys are the best. But it's like

759
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: when you grow up being the only girl with a

760
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: bunch of boys, which is me as well.

761
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: Yep.

762
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't have a girl. I'm gonna

763
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: just keep having babies until I have a girl. Like

764
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: it's just that's it.

765
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: It's like I will not thought I'll have four boys.

766
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, and we balance things out and we're I'm sorry,

767
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 4: but like we kind of like you know, when we yeah, and.

768
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: When we're what's going on here?

769
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 2: When we're like when.

770
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 4: We are like, I mean, I love my brothers and

771
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 4: you guys are loud and you can overpower, but when

772
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 4: we've had it, it's like the like when I'm like,

773
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 4: you guys need to sit down. You realize how powerful

774
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 4: girls are. We really do, even even when we're outnumbered.

775
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 4: So to not have a little girl would be.

776
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 3: And I was gonna say, like seeing Megan, you know,

777
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 3: performing and making music and doing all this amazing stuff,

778
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 3: I'm like, God, she's like, this is what she was

779
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 3: meant to do. But then I saw her come home

780
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: with Riley and I was like, oh wow, this is

781
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 3: what she was born to do. She's such like she's

782
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 3: such a mom, like an amazing mom, and it tripped

783
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 3: me out at first. I was like, I was like

784
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 3: seeing a whole different human being. I was like, whoa,

785
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 3: this is a different Magan. But I'm like, I'm here

786
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: for it. She's the best mom.

787
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: I want to be mom. Since I was like twenty two.

788
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: As soon as I.

789
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 3: Think she was serious, because I'm like I see her

790
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 3: as like young Megan just we're chilling the couch watching

791
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: South Park. So I was like yeah whatever one.

792
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: Day, yeah, so okay, wait, and you're you're single Ryan.

793
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: Right and if you know someone.

794
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I sat up. I set up. I set

795
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 3: up a boundary. Okay for this, I set up a boundary.

796
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 3: I need I need you to stop doing what I've

797
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 3: been selling him. I don't need to be sold. I

798
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 3: am okay, you're I'm still figuring stuff out. I know

799
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: I'm thirty one. I know, I know it's old to

800
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 3: be figured out, but I'm.

801
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: Gone, it's really not that old.

802
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: It's really you're fine.

803
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I keep trying to tell I love her

804
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 3: so much, and I know it's out of love. But

805
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 3: we were traveling all over town and it's just like, hey,

806
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 3: your single, your single, your me, Ryan me, and I go,

807
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: you need to stop. We're also I'm going to have

808
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: a breakdown. So we've been we've been doing that. We've

809
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 3: been working on this nice boundaries. We set up bound

810
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: all right, because before I just wouldn't say anything, and

811
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 3: I would just I'd be like, I'll just get drunk

812
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 3: and forget this is ever happening. I can't do that anymore.

813
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: I just have the best love with my husband and

814
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 1: I want him.

815
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 2: To have that totally.

816
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 3: It looks cool.

817
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: It's just great. I love it.

818
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 2: And what about younger bro So younger Bros engaged?

819
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, married, found the greatest girl. She's packing our house

820
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: right now with him. They're like the best people and

821
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: they're so they're so in love and there's soulmates.

822
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 4: And and he so so when you guys are all

823
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 4: writing together, it's just has this happened? Yeah, I mean,

824
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 4: have you guys been in a room just the three

825
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 4: of you writing music.

826
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's Yeah, there's a song on the new

827
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: album called Love on Hold and Forget How to Love

828
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: we do that too, but love on Hold was a

829
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: really fun one that we wrote together. And we write

830
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: a lot of love songs together, which is weird, but

831
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: it always makes sense to us, Like love on Hold

832
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: is like don't keep my love on hold, like don't

833
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: lead me on. At first, it's because we were listening

834
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: to the beat and we were like, oh, yeah, this

835
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: sounds like we're like we're on hold, and then like

836
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: in the waiting room the original beat, yeah, and then

837
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: Justson I think, was like, oh my love on hold,

838
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: and then we were like, oh, don't on hold, and

839
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: then it just it turned into a song.

840
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 4: It's so easy, how fun, It's so fun to Now

841
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 4: do you ever disagree? And who who usually wins? I

842
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 4: think I know the answer to this, yeah, well.

843
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: And I always my winning answer always is like, oh,

844
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, is it your name and your face that's

845
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: going to sing this song? You know what I mean?

846
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: Like, well, I guess when you're writing.

847
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 4: For you, Yeah, and at the end of the day,

848
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 4: you're going to be the final.

849
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: You're going to be the final.

850
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: But they do, they do have the best opinions, and

851
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: I do listen to them because like I'll sing a

852
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: lot and they'll be like, do that word sounds ugly?

853
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 1: Like don't sing it like that? Or and now they've

854
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: been like vocal coaching me. They're like, it'd be sick

855
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: if like because I try to do something different with

856
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: every album, and sometimes I'm like, do we rap again?

857
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: Because I rapped on my first album but no one

858
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: remembers I did, Like, yeah, it's pretty clear. I ain't

859
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: know sas too, Like I was rapping in all about

860
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: that bass. But every time I do it, we're always like,

861
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: just sing it, just sing it.

862
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: Just you really were rapping in that song, I know.

863
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: And all of those songs there was always a bridge

864
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: that had a full rap, and I'm like, oh my goodness.

865
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 2: So now when you write, do you write mostly on piano?

866
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: Do you write on guitar? Do you write on the computer?

867
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: Like what's your mass?

868
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: I used to I used to write everything on the

869
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: ukulele because I was traveling so much and I didn't

870
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: want to lug a guitar everywhere. But lately for these albums,

871
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: I did a lot of piano and I would get

872
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: the chorus down and I would bring my co writers

873
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: in an audition. The song was always like I'm so nervous,

874
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: I want to pee my pants, but what do you

875
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: think about this? And then it worked every time though,

876
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: so it was really nice and I got lucky.

877
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 4: Do you feel like I mean, you guys basically do

878
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 4: everything together. I mean, Ryan, I'm assuming you're you go

879
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 4: on tour right as well?

880
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to open.

881
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 3: A little different tour for me this time.

882
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: He's got work today.

883
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 3: Or before, I was well still working, but it was

884
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: more like take video and pictures and.

885
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 1: All that stuff social media.

886
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 3: But you know, now I'm going to be a big,

887
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 3: big star. Okay, it's time to shine.

888
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: It's time to shine.

889
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 3: I have to learn DJ. I'm going to crowd up

890
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,959
Speaker 3: before the show begins. I'm I'm the ultimate hype guy

891
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 3: for Megan, for anyone around me. I want everybody to succeed.

892
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 3: He's my h but I want everybody to win.

893
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: He's my head shot.

894
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 3: I'm here to just like, let's have the best time ever.

895
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 2: Wait, so you're gonna go on the road and DJ

896
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: before you before you go on.

897
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the in the open openers.

898
00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: To steal this. I am going to make all Over

899
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: DJ before.

900
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: We're selling like the VIP package. Instead of meet and greets,

901
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna do like a very special working on It pod,

902
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: which is our podcast where we're with my husband and

903
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: we're going to do it live and like have fans

904
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: come early and hang out with them, like and it

905
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: sounds how fun. I know, smart, This is a great idea.

906
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: So get your tickets now.

907
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 3: I know.

908
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: When are you guys.

909
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: Going on the road September in October? Please show up, please, please, please,

910
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 1: for love God, we need people to show up. We're

911
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: doing arenas. You're doing arenas, yeah, which is like, I'm

912
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: so excited.

913
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 4: I was my bucket list. That's the last thing I

914
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 4: need to This is going to be so fun. Are

915
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 4: you doing all Over or you just.

916
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: Doing We're doing We're doing Red Rocks. So we're doing

917
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: North America yeah, and one Canada show. I know, I

918
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: just found out, and then we're ending at the Forum.

919
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 2: I can't wait for Red Rocks.

920
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 4: I've got my bucket list too. I'm like, you, Gorge,

921
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,479
Speaker 4: I want to play Red Rock.

922
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: We're doing MSG. We went there to like do some promo,

923
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: and we were like, we're not ready for this. We

924
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: were so nervous. Fun.

925
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 4: I remember I remember when my ex husband played with

926
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 4: Madison Square Garden on New Year's and it was just

927
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,479
Speaker 4: like the moment fun.

928
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was awesome. It was a great show. Oh,

929
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 2: let's talk about boundaries with each other.

930
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: Okay, great.

931
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 3: Cool.

932
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 1: Well, our parents weren't in that generation yet of expressing

933
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: their feelings a lot. So for our boundaries that answer,

934
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 1: we are. We are the generation that is like going

935
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: to therapy and learning how to speak up for ourselves.

936
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 3: It's very knew.

937
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: His first boundary that was loud and real was like

938
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: the other day when he was like, hey, stop promoting

939
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: my singleness. Yeah yeah, And I was like, oo, I

940
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: keep messing up.

941
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Ryan is single for anyone out there.

942
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I gotta say stop saying that.

943
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 4: But boundary right, Okay, So you were finally I would

944
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 4: be like, Okay, I love you, I'm over it. I

945
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 4: don't I you're Is it hard for you to.

946
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 2: Set a boundary for yourself, Ryan?

947
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. I avoid conflict on the people and

948
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 3: my mother. I will hold on to stuff till the

949
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: day I die. So now I've stopped doing that and

950
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 3: started to be like, okay, hey, we need to have

951
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: a conversation, which that sentence alone. I've never said that

952
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 3: and then so now I've started doing that, and they're

953
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 3: never fun. But when you're done with that conversation, everyone

954
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 3: feels so much better. I cried, well, but it's because

955
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 3: I also I still.

956
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: Don't know better Now I feel better.

957
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 3: No, I still get a little wound up and don't

958
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 3: say everything correctly that I want to say, because I struggle.

959
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: Emotions are new for me too, feeling everything. He never

960
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 3: like I was numb from like fifteen to twenty eight.

961
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 2: Why do you think that happened?

962
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 3: Alcohol?

963
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: My alcoholic Yeah, but also like Dad never was an emotional.

964
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 3: Person, you know, never saw Dad cry except for one Christmas.

965
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. He was like an older dad, so

966
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: there was not a lot of emotions. We still don't

967
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: stuff down with some brown stuff that we still don't

968
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: know how my dad feels sometimes, you know, and we

969
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: only hear it through like if he complains to my

970
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: mom and I'm like, that's how he feels, you know,

971
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,479
Speaker 1: like he's not he won't communicate well, and my mother

972
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: on the other side, I've like broken her so much

973
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: that she finally is like in therapy and expressing her

974
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: feelings and that's new to her too, So we're finally

975
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 1: in a better open place. There was like a joke

976
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: that we had in the family, like, oh, the secrets,

977
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: Like we'll never tell you how we really feel, but

978
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: we'll just have these secrets.

979
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 4: I it's so funny because you guys feel very open

980
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 4: and and like you like you know, and joyful, so

981
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 4: like I guess, like it's such an interesting learned thing

982
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 4: to be afraid of vocalizing your feelings.

983
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're trying to be that. We're trying to Like

984
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: on our podcast, we have a lot of like epiphanies

985
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: and a lot of like, oh, this is how I've

986
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: been feeling about this. Like it's pretty I tell people

987
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: it's our family therapy on the podcast. But it took

988
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: a lot. It took a long way to get here.

989
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: I had, like in my early twenties, had like panic

990
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: disorder and started crumbling and having like panic attacks, and

991
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: no one could relate to me and our in our family,

992
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: they never had anxiety like that. They didn't know what

993
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: it was, and we were on educated about it, and

994
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: then so I thought I was dying. And then he

995
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: came up to me and was like, just so you know,

996
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: like the toughest guy in my life. He was like,

997
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: I have panic attacks all the time. Just go to

998
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: the er. They'll give you a pillow, you'll be fine,

999
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: and go home and you'll be safe. And I was like,

1000
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: you've had this, like you And my first thought was

1001
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: why did we not and why does none of us know? Yeah,

1002
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: it had panic attacks and felt like you were dying.

1003
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: Like that's how closed he was. And now being sober,

1004
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: we're much more trying, like open with our feelings.

1005
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 3: There's a saying in AA it's like you're as sick

1006
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 3: as your secrets. So I had a lot of secrets,

1007
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 3: and so yeah, I was just very, very sick.

1008
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: We're trying to not have secrets anymore.

1009
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is so good, this is so healthy. I

1010
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: liked it.

1011
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I started putting on a mask and

1012
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: people pleasing at like the age of twelve. So like

1013
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 3: I explained it on Want Of we had an episode

1014
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 3: Doctor Drew and I explained what happened to me when

1015
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 3: I was twelve with my who I thought were my

1016
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 3: friends at the time, and he was like, dude, that's

1017
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 3: like real trauma. You need to see my friend as

1018
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 3: a trauma therapist and go through some stuff with her.

1019
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 3: But in that moment, like the next day, I it's

1020
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 3: like I didn't want to get them in trouble, like,

1021
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 3: but what they did to me was bad. So and

1022
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: I put on a face like awesome sleepover guys, that

1023
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 3: was the best dude, see it at school, like it

1024
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: just it was a night It was a nightmare. Yeah,

1025
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 3: and then yeah, and.

1026
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: He didn't tell.

1027
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 3: My mom didn't tell until I was like eighteen years old.

1028
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 3: Like that's how insane when you're that young.

1029
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: You do you feel about sleep on?

1030
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 4: I know, I think that I think that happens to

1031
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 4: so many kids, and they don't talk about it, you

1032
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

1033
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.

1034
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 4: Exactly what details are talking about, but I think there

1035
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 4: are so many kids who have traumatic experiences when they're

1036
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 4: growing up, And how do you know how to vocalize

1037
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 4: whether something feels right or wrong or what's going to

1038
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 4: be You know that what does that mean for your

1039
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 4: social status at the school, And you know, it just

1040
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 4: becomes scary to be able to be like, yeah, that

1041
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 4: didn't feel right, and therefore I'm going to say something

1042
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 4: is like the hardest thing for kids to do still

1043
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 4: to this day, you know, no matter how much people

1044
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 4: talk about it.

1045
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 3: Oh because in the moment when you're that young, you're like,

1046
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 3: this is the this is this will be the end

1047
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: the world. If I go and say something like that,

1048
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 3: my life will be over it. Yeah, and it's just

1049
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 3: not it's it's crazy how like you look at time

1050
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 3: when you're such when you're a young kid, everything just

1051
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 3: the yeah, and it is so long and beautiful and

1052
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 3: there's so many things that happen. It's oh man.

1053
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: Well and also now you're got you're out of your

1054
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 2: saturn return. So that's a big one too about it.

1055
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 3: We don't know. I'm here for it.

1056
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 4: Well for I will send you something on it because

1057
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 4: we're But the saturn return is basically it's like everybody.

1058
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 4: Usually it depends on your chart, but for those who

1059
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 4: are into astrology, it's like usually twenty nine thirty or

1060
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 4: some of some people twenty eight. Like in that pocket

1061
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 4: in that window when you come out of your saturn return.

1062
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 4: It's like a lot of people will say, it's like

1063
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 4: all of that stuff that felt like it was so big,

1064
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 4: and it was just so much chaos or so much

1065
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 4: like transition and trying to figure out what it all means.

1066
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 4: It just sort of all of a sudden feels like

1067
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 4: it's lifted.

1068
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: It's like, God, it.

1069
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,959
Speaker 3: Just sat in return feeling it.

1070
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 4: It's true, you should read about it because it's the

1071
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 4: Saturn returns a big one. I think people when they

1072
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 4: come into their thirties, they really feel hopefully, you know,

1073
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 4: like they're turning a new like a real new way

1074
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 4: of living versus how you did in your twenties. That's

1075
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 4: why so many people go, I don't really would wouldn't

1076
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 4: ever want to do my twenties over again.

1077
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: When he sucked, dude, they sucked, I'm like, gaos, Yeah,

1078
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: it was that I had my babies, but I still

1079
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: I felt like I still feel like sixteen, im pregnant.

1080
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: Like when I had the I'm like, I'm.

1081
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 4: Very young for this, you know, I know, tell me

1082
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 4: about it. I had mine at twenty four. I was

1083
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 4: so young and so and it's the best. Oh my gosh.

1084
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 4: And now he's like, you know, twenty and.

1085
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: You have a twenty year old it's insane. You look

1086
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: so good. I thought the way we were. We were

1087
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: at the Katy Perry pickleball tournament. Yes, and I couldn't

1088
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 1: we couldn't stop staring at you because you're a goddess

1089
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: and you were You're like. I was like, oh, she's

1090
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: been playing. No. I was like, you've been playing since

1091
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: you were four years old, Like you were trained for

1092
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 1: the Elema.

1093
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: That was so funny, that's right. Do you know I

1094
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: haven't played pickleball in like two, like a year.

1095
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: I like, I was like five months post c section,

1096
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: and I me and Daryl had zero points, like kind of.

1097
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 3: A divorced at the end of the day.

1098
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: Honestly, I've never been so much upset with my husband.

1099
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: I was like, you failed us, because he's good, but

1100
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: he took too much of the time disappointed and every

1101
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: thing he missed. He looked at me and was like,

1102
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: what the And I was like, are you kidding me?

1103
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 2: Wasn't it fun? Though?

1104
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: Isn't it?

1105
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 2: Pickleball tournament? So much fun?

1106
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: It was so great. Also, my mom will murder us

1107
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: if we don't tell you this. We saw you perform

1108
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: at Seth McFarlane Christmas party. Oh that was the first

1109
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: time we were like, oh, an angel of a voice

1110
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: what is going on? And that night Seth I was

1111
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,959
Speaker 1: like brand new, like out here, and Seth was like, hey,

1112
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: if she wants to come up and sing, and after

1113
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: you sang, I was like absolutely not. I'm gonna go

1114
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: a drink and leave because like, oh no, I could

1115
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: never follow this.

1116
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 2: Hell no.

1117
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: And then I think Christina Aguilera was supposed to go,

1118
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: You're a god. We all were obsessed with you.

1119
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 2: I love you. Thank you for saying that.

1120
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 4: That was actually terrifying because I didn't want to sing.

1121
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 4: They were just like I'd never known.

1122
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were.

1123
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 4: They were just like you know, come on go and

1124
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 4: everyone was like pushing me. I'm like, okay, I'm just

1125
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 4: gonna do it.

1126
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: And I didn't know. I don't really, I didn't. I

1127
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 2: didn't have anything.

1128
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: Like I was like, I don't know a Christmas song

1129
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: like top to bottom, Like I was like, are we

1130
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: doing jingle bells?

1131
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 4: Since then, I've learned songs. Since then, I need to

1132
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 4: know a couple everything, Like I did lyrics up there,

1133
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 4: like I'll go to mess.

1134
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 2: Up my friend Johan. Do you know Johann car.

1135
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did a bunch of songs with me. I

1136
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: love him.

1137
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, he us too, and he he has his Christmas

1138
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 4: party every year.

1139
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: Have you been to the Christmas party?

1140
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: Gone? But he invited me, So.

1141
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 4: Now you know when you go you have to sing

1142
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 4: like there's no no not going.

1143
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm not. Yeah. The thing with my voice is like

1144
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: it's so weak and fragile that I'm not and I don't.

1145
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm not confident enough to be like if there's a piano,

1146
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 1: let's sing, you know, like, oh it's my nicety. Stop

1147
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: it almost like sit down and let's write. I'll do it.

1148
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: I'll do it all day, all night. But if someone's

1149
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: like should we sing? Like should we get Like my

1150
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: friend Scott from Pentatonics, I couldn't make it to his

1151
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 1: wedding and I was like, honestly, I would have pooped

1152
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: my pants there because the greatest singers of all times

1153
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: were there and everyone got up and sang, and I

1154
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: was like, I would not have done that. Like I

1155
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: need you to know that I'm not comfortable doing that.

1156
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 4: I just how do you feel about people not writing

1157
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 4: their own songs? Do you have a personal attachment to

1158
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 4: those kinds of things or do you does it just

1159
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 4: like do you not care?

1160
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: I don't. I like back in the day, how like

1161
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: Carol Kin could write for Aretha, you know, and like

1162
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: that was cool. And I think if you're an awesome

1163
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 1: artist and you're talented and you sing like I think

1164
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: it's smart for some artists when they pick a really

1165
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 1: well written song and then that helps their whole career

1166
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 1: and that's great. I'm like extra exhausted and I get

1167
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: bummed when like my song doesn't do as well sometimes

1168
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 1: because I'm like, oh, that was from my heart and soul,

1169
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: you know. So I think there's a more personal attachment

1170
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: like that. But yeah, it's odd, But how.

1171
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 4: Do you feel personally about writing? Like do you have

1172
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 4: to write every song you sing?

1173
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: Or are you coming to.

1174
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: There's been like two songs I put out that I

1175
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: didn't write, but it has to be incredible and I'll

1176
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: play for the whole family and they're like, you got

1177
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: to sing this song? Yeah, but uh. I was like

1178
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: on a DJ song once for fun that I was like,

1179
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: never done this. I'll sing their song or sometimes I'll

1180
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: change a few lyrics with few words. Marvin Gay with

1181
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 1: Charlie Pooth that was like all him and I heard

1182
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: that with a different singer at first, But when Charlie

1183
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: said he was gonna cut it. I was like, I

1184
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: beg of you, please let me sing on the song

1185
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: with you. I will do anything, please, please please. It's

1186
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: the most beautiful song. I promise will sound good together.

1187
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: And he let me do that, and that was like

1188
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: the coolest, like one of the really coolest parts of

1189
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: my career. And then my song me Too, like if Iao,

1190
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: I Wanna Be Me too, mostly written by Jason Derulo

1191
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: and my good songwriter friends Jay Cash and Ricky Red,

1192
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: and I was writing with them at the time. I

1193
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: just changed the melodies up in the pre chorus and

1194
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: a few lyrics. But I should have I always feel

1195
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: so silly say I walk in like a dying piece.

1196
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: I gush I to be eyep because I'm like I

1197
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: never do these things. Yeah, I was like, this is

1198
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 1: Jason Derilla, you know. But they played me that song

1199
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: while we were doing my second album and I had

1200
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: songs like no and we were like, we need a

1201
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 1: backup that's upbeat, and they were like, it's just weird

1202
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: if Jason sings this because it's so confident and so

1203
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: like if I was you, I Wanna be me. They're like,

1204
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: it'd be better if of like an empowering female saying it,

1205
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I love this song. I

1206
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: would take this song a heartbeat. Yeah, that's like a

1207
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: rare case.

1208
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: So you're open, You're too open?

1209
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I really ran it. It has to be

1210
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: like a great song. But I mostly just go in

1211
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: and write. But I'm trying to write for other artists

1212
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: as well, like I.

1213
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 4: Used to do more fun. Yeah, that's something that I

1214
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 4: look forward to doing too. I just like, I just

1215
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 4: love to write.

1216
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 2: It's just so much fun. And your cousin writes, Yeah, Sarah,

1217
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 2: she's a great writer.

1218
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's big hits.

1219
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 2: She has written some big hits.

1220
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: Big tunes. Last I saw her do a show.

1221
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's written a lot for Hey, cool girls, what's up?

1222
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 4: I know she is a cool girl.

1223
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 3: You know.

1224
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 2: It's that Italian you can't help it. It's just sort

1225
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 2: of it just kind of like Sash.

1226
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: Every time I see her, I'm like, is it you? Yeah?

1227
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: Okay.

1228
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 4: So we usually end every episode with one question that

1229
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 4: you guys have to answer, like you guys say to

1230
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 4: each other, which is, if you could take one thing

1231
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 4: from your sibling that you would emulate, what would that

1232
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 4: be any and the other part of The question is.

1233
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: Is if you could.

1234
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know what words are hard for.

1235
00:57:51,280 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 5: Me vocabulary simple emulate if you if you could so?

1236
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you if something that you could like that

1237
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 2: you wish you had more of, you know any other.

1238
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: And then the other part of the question is something

1239
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: that you wish you could alleviate from your siblings that

1240
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: you think would make their demons.

1241
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 3: Sort of, this is fun, this is fun.

1242
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: Okay, Wait, wait, I wish to have your I wish

1243
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: a lot of things.

1244
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 3: Bro.

1245
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: I wish I had your high I wish I had

1246
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: your charm. I wish I had your pretend confidence. Yeah,

1247
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: like you could walk genuinely in any place, in any

1248
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: room and make friends. And I think I could do it,

1249
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: but I know you can do it. How what?

1250
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 2: Oh?

1251
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: And I wish I could take away yours? Sorry, I

1252
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: wish I could take away your your alcoholic demons and

1253
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: your and I wish I could take all of your

1254
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: self doubt and self hate away if I could, Wow,

1255
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: could if I could pay for it to be gone? Oh,

1256
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: because you're just so cool and you hate yourself and

1257
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: you didn't because you're awesome.

1258
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 3: I thank you. That was very nice. That was well done.

1259
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: Out.

1260
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 3: I have your confidence. I don't have any, Okay, emulate

1261
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 3: your love for life and love for your family, and

1262
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 3: an abundance of and and discipline. I wish I could

1263
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 3: have your discipline and ethic.

1264
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: This is true, and your ability.

1265
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 3: I love people around you to help you become better.

1266
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 3: Trust Yeah, and then what would you take away all

1267
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 3: of your anxiety?

1268
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 4: Oh?

1269
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: Thank you and your phone and my phone take away

1270
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: my fear of death?

1271
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 2: Well, that happens when you have babies. That's what I

1272
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 2: get through it.

1273
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 4: I mean, you got to figure that one out that

1274
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 4: I had a big one when I have my first son.

1275
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 4: I was like, that's what it is.

1276
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 2: I can't die. You can't die, nobody can die still,

1277
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,479
Speaker 2: But then you gotta work through it because I mean, fuck,

1278
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 2: we're gonna die at some point.

1279
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: I know I can't escape at it. And I'm like,

1280
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: maybe I can buy a hack, but like I can't.

1281
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 2: I know, And there's you gotta get peace with it.

1282
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 2: It'll make your life better. It'll make your life more peaceful.

1283
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: That's literally what my Timeless album is about. I wish

1284
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: I could be timeless forever.

1285
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 2: I know.

1286
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 4: I know, well, you you did it. You will because

1287
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 4: the album's out there, but personally personally coming to terms

1288
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 4: of that, I think makes your life so much better

1289
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 4: because you're not gonna you're you're not gonna beat that one.

1290
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it's I know have to be like ayahuasca,

1291
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: I can't. I need you would, I need to say that. No, dude,

1292
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: I'm I can't take dude, I a hero.

1293
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 2: Dose of mushroom.

1294
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 3: No you will, now I would be in the hospital.

1295
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: No you won't.

1296
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: I'll only do with you in a room and we

1297
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: will get tell her to do a hero I will

1298
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: do a micro dose with you.

1299
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 4: No, no, no, micro dose doesn't count a hero dose.

1300
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 2: You should go.

1301
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 4: And listen to Oliver and Ies podcast with Matthew Johnson,

1302
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 4: who who is who studies this at Johns Hopkins. He's like,

1303
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 4: he like heads up the psilocybin and an m d

1304
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 4: M a kind of research wing. It's so fascinating. Hero

1305
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 4: doses of mushrooms, like in a controlled setting is game changer.

1306
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 3: Really, it's fun go back to life. And I understand.

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Speaker 4: They actually do it a lot with people who are

1308
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 4: terminally ill because they have so much fear and it

1309
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 4: just completely changes that their outlook and how they feel.

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Speaker 2: About their connection to you know, everything, the universe. It's

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Speaker 2: get it.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you gotta be by my bedside.

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Speaker 2: You gotta be there, be like, I'll be there. I'll

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Speaker 2: come for sport. But you, guys, honestly, this has been

1315
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Speaker 2: so much fun.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. We could talk to you forever.

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Speaker 4: And I hope we do get to write together one day, Megan.

1318
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Speaker 4: That would be a blast.

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01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 2: It would be so fun. I can't wait.

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Speaker 4: Will you guys please tell me when you're in LA

1321
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Speaker 4: for your shows in the fall.

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Speaker 1: Yes, October nineteenth at the Forum.

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Speaker 4: Okay, great, Well, I'm gonna write it down and I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna find you so that I can come watch.

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01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 2: I can come see. Yeah, I know somebody.

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Speaker 1: I'll get your tickets and then.

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Speaker 3: Can join me on stage.

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Speaker 4: Oh she will, don't honestly, don't, don't do that.

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Speaker 2: It will be a disaster.

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Speaker 1: So my mom will cry so happy. She'd be so happy.

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Speaker 2: Allie will only spin like R and B songs from

1332
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 2: the nineties.

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Speaker 3: That's fine, I'm here for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be. That's his vibe. It'll be like

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Speaker 2: it'll be just like you know, Brandy all day long,

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Speaker 2: Jo Tosy. Yeah, Yeah, let's go. That's Hollie.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so thank you for you guys.

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Speaker 2: To you again.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you soon. Love you, love you, congrats on

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Speaker 1: your life. Bye you