WEBVTT - Ep. 170: Emotional Rainbow 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:13.720 This is me eater podcasting in you shirtless, severely bug 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:18.599 bitten and in my case underwear listening past, you can't 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:29.480 predict anything. Did you see the note the email from 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:33.000 a guy about his his some guy who was camping 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:36.440 with getting mauled by a northern pike. No, yeah, I 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:40.440 didn't catch that one. Washing dishes in a lake off 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.879 at the end of a dock, and the Northern must 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:46.960 have been shiny plates or something. The Northern came up. 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:49.320 The Northern came up, and it was like a barracuda 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:52.400 came up and gashed the dude's hand real bad. And 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:54.480 then his hands started faster and about up being a 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:58.200 pike tooth stuck in there. No ship. Oh my god, 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.560 it's interesting, isn't it. No, You're never safe. I think 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:06.399 you're just washing dishes mould by a fish, by a northern. 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:10.160 You're feeling feeling all safe in those northern woods. You're like, 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:13.560 there ain't no griz here, no mountain lions, and all 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:16.520 of a sudden I might have talked about this fort 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:20.479 you know what haw to my brother in law. Um, 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:27.280 he would you know, remember when skiing, remember water skiing? Um? Yeah, 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.399 but water skiing lost its uh lost its cash a 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:37.120 with the advent of the wakeboard. When I was a boy, 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.800 people water skis, well, if you were really good at it, 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:47.080 you would barefoot you guys know what that is skiing with? Yeah, 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:48.640 like you lay on you put a wet suit on 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:50.840 or not. I think I think barefooters will typically wear 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:53.560 a wet suit. You put a wet suit on, and 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:56.080 you lay on your back and kind of like like 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:57.840 so you lay in your back and take the ski, 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.080 hold the ski handle obviously, and you grab the rope 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:05.080 with your feet. Oh, like you'd hold the rope so 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:08.640 you're supine that means laying back right, and you got 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.120 the you got your feet touched together and so like 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.440 the curves on the inside, your feet are are sort 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:17.720 of holding the rope. And the boat takes off and 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:23.360 pretty soon you're skimming on your back, laying on your back, 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.800 bracing the rope and your feet laid out feet towards 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.240 the boat, head back and you get to where you're 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:33.440 skimming along. And then he would just all of a sudden, 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:35.760 through like this little bit of magic, he'd pop up 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:37.840 and there he was skiing with those skis, and he'd 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:40.600 be like digging his heels into the water, like that's 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:44.760 what would brace you just toled your toes curled up, 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:46.919 and then the thing of it is then you you 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:49.040 have a wet suit on, so you're able to roll 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:52.280 around and spin on your back and it's like your 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:57.400 breakdancing on the end of a rope. So he's coming around. 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.120 This is the lake I grew up on. No, I 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.560 think it's a lake, the lake next to the lake 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:06.760 I grew up on. Um and hit a sunning blue gill. 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.520 Oh my gosh, drove the dorsal fin into the bottom 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:16.760 of foot he had surgically removed. Oh my gosh, poor 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:21.240 blue gill. What are the chances you can look at 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:24.120 it either way? I guess so. Yeah, you're never safe there. 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.200 You are sixty three miles now or whatever. Bind some 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:30.480 boat and you can still get hurt. Um. I want 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:32.079 to return before we talk about what we're going to 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:35.480 talk about. Mostly, I want to return to you observing Tracy. 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:39.000 You want to introduce yourself. Sure, I'm Tracy Crane, okay. 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:45.360 And then Maggie, I'm Maggie Smith Seth Morris and of 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:51.400 course yeah, and it's beautiless. You're observing that Janice is 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:57.080 driving habits are off brand, pretty honest, what is brand? 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:04.800 I was just surprised, having spent multiple days driving behind Joannice, 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:09.520 the speeds at which Joannice drives. I think Janice's brand 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:13.560 is buttoned up conservative. He's sitting here in a nice 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:20.680 button down with a Kashmir sweater over reckless and I 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:25.480 could almost classify his driving at moments reckless is extreme. 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:28.400 But Mario and Dretti style, like, I was like, whoa, 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.760 he guns it? Well, you know what we call him. 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:38.920 I was trying to because that was in the morning, 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:41.560 right at the time you followed us, and so we 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:45.760 were trying to get to a roosted turkey before like, yeah, 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.440 you definitely had your eye on the prize that we 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.880 had our eye on the prize, and and we were 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:55.000 not driving quite to that degree, but you guys didn't 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:56.400 have as far to go, and we were leaving at 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.960 the same time. See, but there was a weird exchange 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:04.599 we talked about a fair bit. We pulled up to 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:08.680 you because we had to talk about something real quick, 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:13.720 and I commented on your fast driving, yes or maybe not, 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:17.120 but anyways, you said, why don't you go ahead because 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:20.400 you'll be driving faster than me. Where in the world 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.000 would you get that idea? Oh well, the whole time 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:27.279 coming down, I felt like you were tailgating me, and 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.560 so I was That's why I thought you pulled up 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:33.080 next to me. I was trying to keep I was 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.760 struggling to keep up. And then after he made that 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.320 comment to you, Steve, he started to roll the window 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:42.880 up and he gave a signal with his hand and 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:49.720 burned out. Yeah, And that someone was like, yeah, he's 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:54.520 a little spicy this morning. It's been said before. You 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:56.799 guys aren't the first group of people that have noticed 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:00.080 that I drive maybe a little bit more aggressed to 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:03.400 leave the most. But I can tell you, man, I 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:09.120 haven't had a speeding ticket in no no, but because 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.560 on roads where there's speed limits, I don't. I feel 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:14.440 like when I'm on dirt road, I feel like I 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.880 should just be driving where I feel safe and in control. 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:19.960 But I don't know how you kids in the car 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:23.880 all the time in good conscious on that on that 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.839 dirt road, it was a little old lady I gather 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.640 just by her decorations, who has out a sign. I 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:34.320 thought it was interesting that her sign is aimed up 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:38.760 towards the National Forest, not down towards the highway. She's 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:43.320 alerting drivers coming from up. Yeah, but that says something 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:51.040 like drive slow, please respect our roads coming there. That 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:56.120 direct is because people are coming downhill, so you're naturally 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.000 going to be driving faster going down the hill than 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:02.760 up the hill. It's what it is, that's well thought out. 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:04.680 It's real quick. I don't want to bore people to death. 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:06.880 I want to return to Yanni's brand. This is not 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.080 how he dresses because what the what's the first thing 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:10.760 I said to you this morning? Why are you so 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.200 dressed up? Every time I wear a collar shirt? He 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:17.400 said that he's going to uhum. His daughter's got a 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:20.000 little routine she's doing. I gotta go to one of 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:25.800 those this Sunday. Sunday Spring concert and art auction is 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:32.240 what we have tonight, No Saturday. Last year. Last year, 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:36.680 somebody that must have a little uh hobby farm uh 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:40.760 donated a peacock, and by the time I was done 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:46.720 googling can you eat a peacock? Eat peacocks? It already solved. 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.840 So this year I'm prepared ter than spending because the 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:54.400 whole deal is met peacock. Huh. I don't know is there. 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.360 I didn't know that there was two different things. I 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:59.720 don't know. I just feel people have him as I 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:03.160 feel like they're an ornamental. I do, and I'm guessing 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:05.880 that that's what it is donated for. But I don't 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:09.280 need an ornamental peacock, but I would rather because the 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.440 deal with with this art auction is that they're basically 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.520 saying like, hey, it's great fun, we're all gonna get 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:18.000 together do the little spring concert, but really we need 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:23.119 three hundred bucks from every for each kid, from every parent, right, 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:24.760 So if you have two kids, you gotta drop six 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:29.040 hundred bucks for the art program. Someone articulated this to you. Yeah. Yeah, 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.640 they're just saying, hey, we don't have enough funds for 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:36.760 like the art program that we want to have here. Right. 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.240 Funds are for funds for art and music all that 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.960 stuff are cut nationwide. Right, So if you want to 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:45.080 keep this going on, it's a problem. This is what 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:48.720 it did. Approximately costs US three hundred dollars per kid. 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:52.040 So I like to take that as I've got two 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.400 in their stroking a check for six hundred, whether I 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:57.960 walk out of there with some piece of art that yeah, 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:00.600 so this here, I'm coming for aired and if that 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.960 peacock shows up again or one of his offspring or 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:08.559 her offspring, I'm I'm bidden. So can you eat peacock? 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.000 And that's what you're gonna do with it, buddy. We'll 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:15.720 probably keep it around for a little bit. It's gonna 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.480 be cool to have peacock in the yard for a week. 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:21.439 And you're gonna wake your daughters up one day and say, girls, 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.080 oh no, I don't know where I keep the hatchet. 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:27.959 I've already talked it through with them. They know the deal. 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:31.959 We're gonna have peacock dinner party. I look forward to 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:35.320 being invited there. A little daughter have one of the 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.680 feathers after you. Exactly. They were a little suspect. I'm like, dude, 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.760 let me tell you the feathers. You think these turkey 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.120 feathers are cool, Wait till you have like a bucket 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.959 full of peacock feathers. Man, you're gonna be stuck. That 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:50.120 can make a little business out of that. Yeah, every 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:54.440 year they could sell what dozen peacock preathers. I feel 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:58.640 like you're gonna be ostracized from the the community. I 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:00.880 don't think so at all. If he were to kill 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.839 the peacock after after winning it in the auction, when 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:05.920 you walk up, when you walk up to get the peacock, 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:07.840 let's say there is one for sale, you purchase it. 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:09.640 When you walk up and you get and you get 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:13.520 a chance to speak into the microphone and you say, uh, 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:18.960 thank you everyone for turning out. Support. Um, I'm gonna 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:25.400 eat this peacock, watch and see watching and try to 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:29.080 gauge the audience response. Okay, I will do that. Maybe 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.400 I'll pose it as a question. I'll say, is anybody 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:35.640 ever eating one of these things? And I'll throw him off. 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:37.960 They'll be like, you think that guy might eat because 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:43.400 I'm like, oh, he's just joking. He's drunk. No, there's 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.959 no drinking that goes on at this event. Well you 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.640 look good either way. Hey, thanks well, and thank you 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.600 for the compliment. I liked it my how you described 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:56.439 my brand? Oh, goodhead, I'm glad we do that a 0:10:56.440 --> 0:11:01.760 little more. What's seth brand? I quickly? When I do 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:05.959 you feel like in high school I was often definitely 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:09.160 part of the trouble making that was also I feel 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.640 like the person that was like, okay, we're going to 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.400 cross over the threshold right like this, this is the 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:17.680 part where if the cat pops catches like, we're gonna 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:19.600 be in really big trouble, so let's just take it 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:22.880 back a notch. That's a nice balance, right, and I 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.720 think that fits my brand now, I would agree with that. 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:33.480 I think that's a good evaluation. But those going to 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.520 curb it back. That's why he follows the speed limit 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:40.040 only on paved roads, not on dirt roads. You know, 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:45.520 that's a we'll button us up, But that's a I 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:50.760 think that's called type one morality. Not doing it because 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.920 you're afraid of getting caught, not doing it because you 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.280 fear the punishments. Like I think there's like these degrees 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.280 of morality interesting. So it's like you don't there's a 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:01.280 thing you like, you don't do it because you don't 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:05.360 want to get in trouble. And then the top morality 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.640 is you do it. This would be civil disobedience. The 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:12.400 top morality is doing it knowing you'll be in trouble, 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:16.000 like that's the only reason you're doing it, is basically 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:18.000 like so you get in trouble. No, I think it 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:19.560 goes and I'm not looking at it right now, but 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.440 I think it goes like the thing being like rolls 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:26.959 of parks, right, So she's doing it wrong. She's committing 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:32.199 it wrong, you know, according to civil civil law, committing 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.200 it wrong and there's trouble. But that's like a different 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:36.600 type of morality. It would be like like, oh, I'll 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:38.720 break a law so long as I know I won't 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.440 get in trouble. And since there's no police on these 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:45.000 back national forest roads, what are the odds, So therefore 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:48.120 it's okay. And then on the main road it's like, oh, no, 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:49.640 I drive the speed limit here because I don't want 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:53.800 to get in trouble. So he's the type one moral guy. 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:58.040 There's pluses and minuses to that. I think, uh, real quick, 0:12:58.200 --> 0:12:59.480 this is a return to the brand thing, and then 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:04.120 we're gonna get on. Um. Does Seth have a brand? Absolutely, 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:09.480 because everybody has a brand. What's my brand? Um? Your brand? 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:15.200 You don't have to tell Seth Brandon. Here's what Seth 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:22.000 brand is. Seth brand is he's vivacious. He has a 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:25.800 little bit of um, kind of liking to push the envelope. 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:30.760 Dare devilish um, but but tones it down with kind 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:36.280 of that warm smile, that willingness to help that um, 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:41.599 you know, is a great turkey finder. That is the 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:47.600 biggest redeeming quality in my mind. And also the fact 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:50.200 that he's a he's a DP is also a winner 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:57.040 in my mind too. Not the kind we'll get to that. 0:13:57.840 --> 0:13:59.560 We're not gonna cover that. Okay, I don't want to 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:06.840 destroy your career. I appreciate that. Um, Okay, you guys, 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:11.280 here's what we're here to talk about. You guys recently 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:20.560 Maggie and Tracy, Um, you gals, not guys recently embarked 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:24.880 on a life's journey. I would definitely say it was 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.160 that who wants to do? Which you would like to do? 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:30.200 A quick rundown of what exactly you just did? Go 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:38.040 for it, Maggie, you go forecau. Tracy already branded everyone. Well, 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.040 we went on our very first turkey hunt. But would 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.680 you have to do to prep um, we had to 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:46.440 get our hunting license, do hunters, d do some shooting 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:51.680 practice days and learn a little bit about turkeys as 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.640 as adults as like very literate adults who went through 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:59.800 hunters that. Um, can you give me some uh the 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:06.200 what's your impression just you know, casual impression about that process? Extensive? 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:10.000 That's exactly what comes to mind. I'm not sure. I 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:12.480 I'm not sure. I thought much about it in advance, 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.040 but I did not think it would be as robust 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.480 and as beefy as it is, and it took a 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.960 long time, understandably. So now kind of sitting back on 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:25.040 the other side, reflecting on it, I completely understand why 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:29.520 it's as extensive as it is. Totally, I totally agree 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.200 with that. I mean, I don't know. Was there ten 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:34.680 topics and the like? Within each topic, they were between 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.440 four and seven sub topics, and then within those sub 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:40.800 topics topics there are chapters. I mean it was. It 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.640 was lengthy, but it almost like, I don't know, kind 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.640 of freaked me out a little bit in some sections, 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:50.760 just like talking about injuries and they're saying, like turkey 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:54.000 hunting is the number one like situation when you're out 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:58.280 in the woods where hunters get injured, and I was like, WHOA, Okay, 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:05.840 He's like hunting was the easy way. Again, like the 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:09.640 thing with the different types of morality, it would be 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:11.760 easy to go find this out. And I'm gonna say 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:16.880 a thing that might be demonstrably wrong, but I feel 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:22.200 that the most common hunting accident is swinging on a 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:29.040 bird mm hmmm. And peppering someone with a shotgun. You 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.880 guys probably heard about that too, right, Yeah. They talked 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:34.480 a lot about your shooting zone, like what hamed with 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:38.160 what happened with Dick Cheney. He's hunning coil in Texas. 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.400 You're in thick brush, right, a bird jumps you kind 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.600 of focused on the bird. The birds a little low, 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.120 you know. And in the times that I've been shot 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.640 by a shotgun, never bad enough to even puncture my skin, 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.840 but I've been peppered. Uh, it was same thing hunting 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.920 up bird. I don't know if they said it was 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.440 number one, but they definitely said it was in uh 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:04.679 in the you know, one of the most um often 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:08.600 injuries they see because obviously you're in full camo and 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:12.679 you're hiding, so you're buckled down and you're calling, and 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:17.840 so people mistake when I when I took my hunter 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:22.080 safety back in Pennsylvania, they showed a video of this 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.480 guy calling to a turkey and he would like move 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:26.520 in on it. And as he was calling, he was 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:29.600 using a mouth call. He would wipe his mouth with 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:33.439 a white bandana. Why was he wiping his mouth just 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:35.800 from like I don't know, spitting and stuff. When he's 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:39.000 calling using a mouth call, when he wipe his mouth 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.160 and he like keeps getting like getting closer and close 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:43.680 to the turkey, and all of a sudden, like a 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:47.639 shot out of nowhere and the dude ends up getting shot. 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.800 Oh my god, who is filming this? It was It 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:54.679 was like a a simulated video, but it was just 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:59.360 a show like that's the most common honting accident in Pennsylvania. 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.200 So that's that they had someone and they're like, let's 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:06.280 have it be that you're out calling wiping your mouth 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:09.399 with a handkerchief as a handkerchief as a way to 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.320 demonstrate how one might get in a hunting accident. Yeah, 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:13.879 I don't know if it was just a way to 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:18.879 get into the conversation that like turkey hunting is like 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:22.159 the number one thing that where people you know, No, 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:27.120 I got that. I just don't know that I would have. Yeah, 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:29.119 I don't know. But what is the one thing that 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:32.119 like stuck in my head about that? For well, of course, 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:34.040 you know, I know that that's one of the arguments 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:37.560 against and states were allowed to use a rifle hunting 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:42.560 spring turkeys. Um, that's one of the big arguments against it. 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:47.520 Against that it's just no. There's a couple states that 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:49.400 allow you to use the right phone let you hunt 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:52.280 rifles in spring turkeys. And there's a story we don't have. 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:53.840 We probably talked about this. I had to take even 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:55.600 get into it, the story about what happened when they 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:57.320 tried to make it that you couldn't use rifles in 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:00.560 Florida for spring turkeys. Like where they got resistance from 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:05.840 where it's coming from turkey hunters. Turkey hunters were saying, 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:09.240 you know what, we're all wearing camo, We're making turkey noises. 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:13.800 This is a flat country. We use turkey decoys. We 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.320 feel that to be in the best interest of turkey 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:22.840 hunters and turkey hunting if you we're not allowed to 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:26.720 use rifles because they carry obviously they going a straight 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:29.760 line for quite ways, and people were uncomfortable with it. 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:32.640 And my understanding of this story is that it got 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:34.639 turned into like a gun issue and not like a 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:40.080 hunting issue, and it was it was misconstrued in a 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.280 in a in a weird way. But that's one of 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:45.919 the reasons why in most places they limited shotguns, probably 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:47.800 something to do with efficacy to right. It's like, yeah, 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:52.560 get a lot closer, but there's just the safety concern. Um, 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:55.320 do you guys realize, like, haven't gone through hunters safety. 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:58.760 What do you think when I tell you that there's 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:03.840 sort of a movement across the country to ease up 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:08.879 and make it easier, too easier to get licenses and 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:13.239 removing restrictions and allowing people to hunt multiple years with 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:16.119 a mentor before needing to do their hunters safety or 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:21.760 simplifying hunters safety, having done having kind of not been 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:24.480 raised around this and having done it, And when I 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:26.320 tell you that that's true, that's surprising to you or 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:29.040 you see that like, oh, I could see that. It's 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:32.520 surprising to me to lower the goal being to lower 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:34.840 the barrier to entry. I mean, I see why there 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:36.720 would be a push, but I don't agree with that 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:40.399 you fell those useful information. I didn't. I mean, some 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:42.120 of the videos were pretty funny. I think we could 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:45.960 do a better job in our department, but no, it 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:48.960 was very educational and personally, I really liked the section 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:51.560 all about conservation at the end. I mean that really 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:55.280 struck home as being someone that studied ecology and biology, 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:57.399 I mean that was I loved that they put that 0:20:57.480 --> 0:20:59.920 in there. And I was like, you're not gonna necessarily, 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:03.919 depending on who your mentor is, get that side, you know, 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:06.119 or there's other things you might not get from a 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:09.159 mentor that are probably in there. I don't know, I 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:13.879 appreciated the extensiveness of it. You guys had coursework and 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:19.760 field work. We did our coursework online and then you 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:22.840 had a field day in person, got a test, and 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:26.200 you did some shooting at field day. We didn't actually, 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:29.159 and I think partly there was an option. It was 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:31.800 you could volunteer if you wanted to participate in that 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:34.399 section of the field day, but the majority of the 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:37.040 field day was focused on There were different stations that 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:39.280 were set up and you basically had to attend every 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:42.359 single station, and each station had a different kind of 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:45.080 objective of what it is. It was teaching you, and 0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:47.399 then you could stay after if you wanted to shoot, 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:49.639 but we didn't because we knew we were going to 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:53.639 be doing practice work with you guys anyways, and it 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:58.119 was an interesting group of people that were there. I 0:21:58.119 --> 0:21:59.520 don't know. I just was like, I'm not sure I 0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:03.760 feel terribly comfortable staying here and shooting. They were like, 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:07.959 I don't know, how older, youngest, kid when you can 0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:11.399 get your hunting license. Yeah. The majority of the attendees 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:13.960 were definitely children, children, and they were already the way 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:16.560 that they were handling the firearms during our stations, I 0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:21.120 was like, OK, yeah, and I was like, how did 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:25.760 they pass is questionable? Is that a puny dynamic being 0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:27.040 in there with the kids? Oh? Yeah, And we got 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:30.280 partnered with the kids and yeah. It was kind of 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:32.440 cool though at the same time because all of the 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:36.119 people who were facilitating the field day were adults, obviously, 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:37.840 and the majority of the people at the field day 0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:40.320 we went to was in a small community. It was 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:44.400 very family oriented, so they had just passed on the 0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:46.800 gentleman had been doing it for fifty years, had just 0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:49.840 passed on kind of the leadership responsibility to his daughter. 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:52.480 So it was really like special to kind of see 0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:55.200 that dynamic and um them talk a little bit about 0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:58.720 how kind of important this has, you know, how important 0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:01.960 this has been in their life. Um. But yeah, interacting 0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:03.320 with the kids, it was like trying to get them 0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:05.159 to talk what are you most excited about? What have 0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:09.639 you learned? What stuck with you? It was like quiet. 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:18.440 They wanted nothing to do. You not my mom, You're 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:21.080 not the teacher. That was until where it got out 0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:23.240 that we were part of meat eater, and then they 0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:25.080 wanted to talk to us and they thought we were 0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:29.800 really cool, and so did the parents. The parents then 0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:35.040 start flogging over and we're like okay. So then the 0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:40.920 next stage is right down for people. What you're um 0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:47.600 exposure to firearms and exposure and impressions of firearms. Well, 0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:51.760 I grew up in a very large city, so and 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:56.560 I was never exposed to firearms as a as a child, 0:23:57.000 --> 0:24:00.280 as an adolescent, even as an adult, so like had 0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:04.080 no experience. I think you guys were shocked to learn that. 0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:06.240 But I've never shot a gun, thing like how would 0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:09.719 you get through life? And you know, I was like, like, 0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:14.320