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Speaker 1: The Northern came up, and it was like a barracuda

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Speaker 1: it's interesting, isn't it. No, You're never safe. I think

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Speaker 1: You're feeling feeling all safe in those northern woods. You're like,

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Speaker 1: there ain't no griz here, no mountain lions, and all

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Speaker 1: you know what haw to my brother in law. Um,

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Speaker 1: he would you know, remember when skiing, remember water skiing? Um? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you would barefoot you guys know what that is skiing with? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: This is the lake I grew up on. No, I

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, drove the dorsal fin into the bottom

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Speaker 1: of foot he had surgically removed. Oh my gosh, poor

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Speaker 1: blue gill. What are the chances you can look at

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Speaker 1: to return before we talk about what we're going to

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Speaker 1: And then Maggie, I'm Maggie Smith Seth Morris and of

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Speaker 1: course yeah, and it's beautiless. You're observing that Janice is

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Speaker 1: I was just surprised, having spent multiple days driving behind Joannice,

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Speaker 1: thought it was interesting that her sign is aimed up

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Speaker 1: alerting drivers coming from up. Yeah, but that says something

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Speaker 1: like drive slow, please respect our roads coming there. That

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Speaker 1: I want to return to Yanni's brand. This is not

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Speaker 1: how he dresses because what the what's the first thing

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Speaker 1: I said to you this morning? Why are you so

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Speaker 1: little routine she's doing. I gotta go to one of

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Speaker 1: those this Sunday. Sunday Spring concert and art auction is

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Speaker 1: what we have tonight, No Saturday. Last year. Last year,

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Speaker 1: googling can you eat a peacock? Eat peacocks? It already solved.

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Speaker 1: So this year I'm prepared ter than spending because the

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that there was two different things. I

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Speaker 1: together do the little spring concert, but really we need

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Speaker 1: three hundred bucks from every for each kid, from every parent, right,

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Speaker 1: So if you have two kids, you gotta drop six

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Speaker 1: they're just saying, hey, we don't have enough funds for

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Speaker 1: like the art program that we want to have here. Right.

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Speaker 1: Funds are for funds for art and music all that

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Speaker 1: stuff are cut nationwide. Right, So if you want to

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Speaker 1: it did. Approximately costs US three hundred dollars per kid.

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Speaker 1: So I like to take that as I've got two

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Speaker 1: in their stroking a check for six hundred, whether I

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Speaker 1: so this here, I'm coming for aired and if that

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Speaker 1: her offspring, I'm I'm bidden. So can you eat peacock?

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Speaker 1: And that's what you're gonna do with it, buddy. We'll

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Speaker 1: probably keep it around for a little bit. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be cool to have peacock in the yard for a week.

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Speaker 1: And you're gonna wake your daughters up one day and say, girls,

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Speaker 1: oh no, I don't know where I keep the hatchet.

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Speaker 1: I've already talked it through with them. They know the deal.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have peacock dinner party. I look forward to

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Speaker 1: being invited there. A little daughter have one of the

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Speaker 1: feathers after you. Exactly. They were a little suspect. I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you the feathers. You think these turkey

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Speaker 1: full of peacock feathers. Man, you're gonna be stuck. That

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Speaker 1: can make a little business out of that. Yeah, every

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Speaker 1: don't think so at all. If he were to kill

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Speaker 1: let's say there is one for sale, you purchase it.

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Speaker 1: thank you everyone for turning out. Support. Um, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'll pose it as a question. I'll say, is anybody

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Speaker 1: They'll be like, you think that guy might eat because

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, he's just joking. He's drunk. No, there's

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Speaker 1: no drinking that goes on at this event. Well you

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Speaker 1: look good either way. Hey, thanks well, and thank you

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Speaker 1: my brand? Oh, goodhead, I'm glad we do that a

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Speaker 1: think that fits my brand now, I would agree with that.

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Speaker 1: think that's called type one morality. Not doing it because

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Speaker 1: of parks, right, So she's doing it wrong. She's committing

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Speaker 1: it wrong, you know, according to civil civil law, committing

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Speaker 1: am in a different world. Yeah. Do you see that

426
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,479
Speaker 1: there's a cover it's kind of a startling cover of

427
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: a New Yorker magazine from some time ago in the

428
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: last year, where it was like two cars pulled into

429
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: a turnout like a like a river launch, and there's

430
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: a pick It's like it's like an atypical campsite. Yeah,

431
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: it's like a campsite. I think. There's a pickup with

432
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: a shotgun in the window, so he's got his like

433
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: shot gun in the window rack. And there's a guy

434
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: getting a boat. He's got his little kids with them,

435
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: and they're like getting their unloading inner tubes or whatever.

436
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: And the guy's kind of like looking very uneasily because

437
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: this shotgun is like aimed over as he's unloading his

438
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: car with his kids, and it's kind of this a

439
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: little bit of eerie cover. Ye didn't see it. I

440
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: think it's like a certain you know, people who don't

441
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: I think that that's people don't have exposure to firearms

442
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: don't really like understand like how they function and what

443
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: purpose they serve in people's lives. It's kind of like yeah, totally. Well,

444
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: and then you add on top of it what we

445
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: see in the quote unquote news, and I think that

446
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: doesn't contribute in a positive way to how people who

447
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: don't have exposure view firearms. Yeah definitely, yeah, absolutely so, um,

448
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: well never shot one, no, and oh no, I know

449
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: you're baffled by that, but like I never had a chance,

450
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: like I would never have had a chance. I grew

451
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: up in New York City, Like I walked to school

452
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 1: every day. We didn't leave the city that often except

453
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: if we went on vacation and stuff like That. Was

454
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: not the life that I had as a as a child.

455
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: And then the first time you shot was with the

456
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: honest and what talk about that a little bit. Well,

457
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: I was fortunate enough to not go first, Maggie, go first,

458
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: because I think I was a little apprehensive, Maggie exposure

459
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: impressions prior to your your new found bill. Yeah. Not

460
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: in my family was I ever presented the opportunity like

461
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 1: my immediate family, my cousins. I want to know how

462
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: very much grew up hunting with my uncle, But my

463
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: family was just not on that page. In Minnesota. I mean,

464
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: I know there's a huge honey community in Minnesota, but

465
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: my family it's very liberal, I would say, And it

466
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 1: was just never presented to me. So I did it

467
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: to shoot one time with my cousins because my uncle

468
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: wanted me to go out and do that. It was

469
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: important to him. Yeah, it was important to him. And

470
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: the first gun I shot was might get this wrong? No, Uh,

471
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: was your military grade a R fifteen on the ground,

472
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: which was just like, holy moly, this thing's kind of fun.

473
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: So that was your first shooting experience the most people. Well,

474
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: then they handed me I think it was a twelve

475
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: gauge or twenty gage shotgun and they didn't tell me

476
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: about the kick, and man, I flew back on my ass.

477
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: How old were you when that happened? I think I

478
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: was like sixteen and then and then after that that

479
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: was it. Yeah, curious about him at all? Did you

480
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: ever think, like, you know, I'd like to buy one

481
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: of those things? No? No, never. I don't think my

482
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: boyfriend like go out and like every time we're in

483
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: a sportsman's or something, he wants to go look, and

484
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, not going to I don't know.

485
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: He's a carpenter. Yeah, but he doesn't own any No,

486
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: he hasn't own any He's he lived in Waomi though

487
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: for a while and did some hunting. But yeah, and

488
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: then when you went to shoot, what was that like?

489
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: I was scared of the unknown? Yeah, just I didn't

490
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: know what to expect. It's been a while. I don't

491
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: know why I was scared, but I just was. My

492
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: heart was like racy or your last experience with a shotgun. Yeah,

493
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't a good knocked on your ass you said

494
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: so and laughed at So you got mocked and knocked yea, Um,

495
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: so you went you, you went shot, and you were scared,

496
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: but just scared of whatever, like not not necessarily the noise,

497
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: not necessarily the kick, but yeah, just apprehension. I think

498
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: about the whole situation. Was there any self loathing? No, no, no,

499
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: I was wanting to get it right. I think, like,

500
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: not mess it up, not hurt anybody. There's like a

501
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: lot of respect I've gained. And also like I think

502
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: that's partially wise intimidated, Like I don't think a firearm

503
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: something you just mess around with, you know, So I

504
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: want to make sure he's doing it right, not hurting anybody.

505
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: And then when when you shot, was it, um like,

506
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: did you enjoy shooting or does it more seem like

507
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: it's just a thing that you have to do in

508
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: order to then go out and go hunting. Um, I

509
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: think I enjoyed it for sure, after I got used

510
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: to it. For its own sake, Yeah, for its own sake.

511
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: It was fun to see like where I hit on

512
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: the target and everything, But it was totally different though,

513
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: like when it came it comes down to actually setting

514
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: up and like getting in that moment too. That's a

515
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: totally different feeling as well. But I got more comfortable

516
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: with it and the more we shot and felt better

517
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: about it. But the first one in the video, you screamed,

518
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 1: I like screamed. I was like, I think she's like.

519
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: That's also why I got the benefit of like witnessing

520
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: her doing it first, because she like felt the kick, like,

521
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: but she's tiny, and you could see the impact on

522
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: her body because I don't think she was expecting it

523
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: to be as much as it was, so you weren't

524
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: like prepared for so your body like really reacted. Yeah,

525
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: and the noise just scared me. But I get spooked easily.

526
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: So you made a strange little sound, yeah, scream or

527
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: I don't even know what as you as you pull

528
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: the trigger after no not as they each did a clip,

529
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: a five round clip out of my Yeah, not that.

530
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: But then I was like, what do you guys want

531
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: to do that? Some more? Okay, but hold on hold that.

532
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: What did you guys like shooting the twenty two? Well,

533
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: I find it to be easier for me too. It's

534
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: a smoother and more seamless experience. Right, Oh yeah, totally.

535
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: So it was like this was a very mild report. Yeah,

536
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: so I was like, oh, this is what we're talking about,

537
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: the recoil and report or minimal. Yeah, it was lovely,

538
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: kids love shooting. I can see why. Totally. I was saying.

539
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: I screamed not when I shot the twenty two. Okay,

540
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: so go on. Oh yeah, like I said, they only

541
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: did each a clip of that. I'm like, hey, you

542
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: want to do that some more because that's I figure,

543
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: that is a great way to get into it. At

544
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: least you're getting to do all the same motions. Almost

545
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: the loading is a little bit different. You realize you're

546
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of guys being like this that

547
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: a clip. It's not a clip magazine. What's the difference.

548
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: There's like a thing called a clip that's not that's

549
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: not what that one is. And I know what you mean,

550
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: and everyone knows what you mean. But people will right

551
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: in and well good, and I'm glad that you're addressing

552
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: it down. And these people don't have to write in.

553
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: They'll write a note that sounds like this, Now you

554
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: don't have to um so A five round magazine and

555
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: uh I thought we would, you know, run through a

556
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: box each so's difference? What is that actually different a

557
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: clip in a magazine? Well, I don't don't know if

558
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: there's a difference, but I know, um My, my body

559
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: and roommate Rick, who was in the Marine Corps, like,

560
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: if I call it a clip, He's like, what what? What? What?

561
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: Hell is the clip? Because it's like this little thing

562
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: that used to be like a clip. We always grew

563
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: up calling them clip. I never called him. I called

564
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: him clips too. But yeah, it's like, but then I

565
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: noticed people are always correcting you about it. Oh, here

566
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: we go, right? Am I right? Or am I right?

567
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: You can put in difference between MG and it will

568
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: auto filed magazine and clip. An amiation clip as a

569
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: device used to store individual rounds of ammunition together as

570
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: a single unit that is then ready for insertion into

571
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: the magazine of a gun. Yeah, we used to call

572
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: you Yanni Van's wall man. You're supposed to know this stuff. Interesting. Well,

573
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: we learned something new today, Yanni litt something about firearms.

574
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: Feels good. He's usually pretty, he's usually pretty. His brand,

575
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: his brand is known about firearms. Anyhoo, that twenty two

576
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: wasn't exciting. They wanted to jump right over exciting. I

577
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: think it was more at least fro my perspective. I

578
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 1: was like, come on, we're not going to be using this.

579
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: Let's practice what we're going to be using in this situation.

580
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: You want to get the real world training, Yeah, totally,

581
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: we didn't. You know. I wanted to be as prepared

582
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: as possible and utilize as much of the time as

583
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: we could. So you want to switch over to smooth bore?

584
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: Do you guys you've run not comfortable with lingo yet?

585
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: I mean, like you wouldn't uh Like he said, Seth

586
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: mentioned someone grab needing to grab their iron and you

587
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: didn't know what he's talking about. I could kind of

588
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: figure it out, but I did one of those you know,

589
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: those awkward pauses, and I was like, all right, so

590
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: you don't get to like, you don't run around saying

591
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: you're twenty two like a double dude. Old Betsy, there's

592
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: a whole new vocb Nelly Bells. That's what I call

593
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: my shotgun. Old Nellie tell us the origin of that name. Um,

594
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not working. I have a friend

595
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: that that used to use that term just like like

596
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: old goodness for like general good firearms. What do you

597
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: mean like it just not a unique one, just firearms

598
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: in general. He would I just grabbed old nellye bells,

599
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: just like people would say grabbing my smoke poll. You're

600
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: gonna go hunting? Yeah, I don't know what kind of

601
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: just stuck with my shotgun. I don't call my rifle

602
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: that quick quiz for you goodness? Um? Do you when

603
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: I say a smooth board, do you know what I'm

604
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: talking about? Yes? I do. Mag Ahead, you took hunter

605
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: safety bars and a shotgun and a rifle. It's called

606
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: a rifle because the boar is rifled. There's like ridges

607
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: in there. What are the ridges called? Oh, the land

608
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 1: like the land and the yeah, lands and grooves, lands

609
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: and grooves. Yeah, you know why. They originally started cutting

610
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: those in to help the bullet travel in a strai

611
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: line to prevent fouling. Black powder's messy. M So you

612
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: shoot and it would be so much fouling um that

613
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: it would be hard to load it. And so they

614
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: originally started cutting grooves in their as a place for

615
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: all that powder to go, all that powder residue. And

616
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: then you realize you could get along, You could get

617
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: more groove by cutting them in spirals. I started throwing

618
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: a spin on that bullet and then people were like,

619
00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: uh huh, comes out very stable. I just learned, and

620
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: then again that I didn't know before and didn't know

621
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: that that was the original intent. I started podcasts called

622
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: gun Talk. Um. Okay, so you want to switch over

623
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: to the smooth boar. Yeah, because I wanted real life practice. Yeah,

624
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: we were getting close to game time. We gotta get

625
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: the skills pumping And what was your impression of shooting? Um?

626
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: What was your guys impressions of shooting turkey targets with shotguns? Fun?

627
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: Not fun too much like loud noise and kicking. No,

628
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: it was fun it I mean I liked it better

629
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: than just the regular target. That's one of the heftiest

630
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: kicks out there. Yeah, turkey load twelve. Are you shooting

631
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: twenty gauge? But like, shooting a turkey load off of

632
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: shotgun is one of the healthier kicks on the market. Yeah,

633
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: and I've shot those same shotguns. They're shooting those same loads,

634
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: and it's that's not a walk in the park. Even

635
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: though it's twenty gauges. They pop you my brother's old girlfriend.

636
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: I told you this. She was shooting turkey loads and

637
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: she had a hammer cock shotgun, punched the whole right,

638
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: blow her eye through her skin with it, and then

639
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: his wife her collar bone shooting turkey loads. I was

640
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 1: so glad those those guys, both of those guys missed

641
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: the turkeys. Yeah, that's like say that like lingering in

642
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 1: the back of your head right for crying out loud?

643
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: What if I got myself into So you enjoyed shooting

644
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: at the targets? And what frustrations did you have? What

645
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: the I thing was like throwing me off because I'm

646
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 1: left more left eye dominant. I know you, yeah, really

647
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,479
Speaker 1: are really struggled with that. Why why did you Van's

648
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: Wall want you guys to shoot if you're left eye dominant.

649
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: Why was he wanting you to shoot right handed? He

650
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: gave us the option, like when we started to share

651
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: with him what the frustration was and not being able

652
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: to keep that left eye close. It's my issue is

653
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: it takes a while to set up right if you're

654
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: not used to the position you're supposed to be in,

655
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: how to hold the gun, aiming, and just getting comfortable

656
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 1: before you shoot. So my left eye would be closed

657
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 1: for a while before I was like ready to shoot,

658
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: and then by the time I was ready to shoot,

659
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: my left eye was like fighting me so hard to

660
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: open that I felt like it was interfering with my

661
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: ability to like effectively aim. And he was like, well,

662
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: you can shoot left handed, but the idea of shooting

663
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: left handed felt a little bit intimidating to me because

664
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: I'm technically right handed, so the idea of like switching

665
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: over to the other side felt like I'm learning something

666
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: new altogether. Let's not throw like an entirely new factor

667
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: into the situation. Let's just figure out how to like

668
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: make this left eye cooperate a little bit more. Yeah,

669
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: And then you didn't weren't comfortable shoot with both eyes open. No,

670
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: I can't like see what I mean, you can see

671
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: with Boza is open, but you can't like narrow in

672
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: in the way that you want to be narrowing in.

673
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: Because he would tell us exactly where we were supposed

674
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: to be aiming, especially as we were like initially patterning

675
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 1: the shotgun like and with both eyes open, I felt

676
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: like I couldn't get to that specific of a spot totally.

677
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: I could only get there and both eyes open would

678
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: only work if they were shooting left handed, being left

679
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,959
Speaker 1: eye dominant. We even toyed around with Tracy. We toyed

680
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: around making her a special pair of sunglasses. I feel

681
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: like I would like that, Like I feel like the

682
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 1: idea of like the fight, the battle with that left eye,

683
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: like like with a patch over it. It like creates

684
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: an ease. It's like I don't have to pay attention

685
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: to that fight when I'm when I am. I don't

686
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: know why I fight with it so much, And maybe

687
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: it would just get stronger and better over time the

688
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: more I do it. It would mostly I think most

689
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: experts would tell you, though, that since you're at this

690
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: beginning stage, you should be going left hand. And I

691
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: think that's really She's got the same thing going on.

692
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: And we did it this past time turkey hunting. We

693
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: just I did a pair of sunglass and just put

694
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 1: something I did tape. We did something anyways to cover

695
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: her left eye, and she shot great. You know, but

696
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: I think I'm just gonna tell her she's gotta she

697
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: mother left him probably more advantageous to get her into

698
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: it while she's yeah, the same for you, it's like

699
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: you only shot a gun now times. It's weird though

700
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: as an adult this is like an overarching thought, but

701
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: like as weird as an adult getting into something new,

702
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: especially something like this that is so um specific and

703
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: so nuanced and like it's not it requires like a

704
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: really built out specific skill set. Like it's very unnerving

705
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: because the idea of like starting something as an adult

706
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: and like, am I going to be able to do it?

707
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: Am I not going to be able to do it?

708
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: Nobody likes the idea of failing. Like you want to

709
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: start something and be good at it right away. And

710
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: that's like a whole mental journey that I went on

711
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: me too, not letting you guys down, wanting to like,

712
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, live up to the expectation ends, all that

713
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I didn't have any expectations. Of course

714
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: you did, no, he told me. He said, I expect

715
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: nothing from these people. Um we Yanni, who was it? No?

716
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 1: I proposed, no one of us did that you'd block

717
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: your eye out. M Yanni thought you'd have a patch

718
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: so cute that you'd carry an eye patch. And I

719
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: proposed maybe will take and make you, um take your

720
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: shades and block the eye out. But then I thought,

721
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: did you, but you like shooting like that, right. I

722
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: liked it a lot, a lot, But then I thought

723
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: there's so much going on in the Turkey Woods that

724
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: I felt that it was um did it was just

725
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: like yet another thing, Oh I need to put my

726
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: special glasses, Like, hey, he's coming, and he's coming hot,

727
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: where's the eye patch? Hold on? Tell him to just

728
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: stay right there, hold on. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you didn't

729
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: like that idea, which was a little heartbreaking and disappointing.

730
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: I understand why you you vetoed it. It just was

731
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: so nice to shoot, not battling this blinking thing that

732
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: kind of keeps opening. Yeah. Yeah, it would give you

733
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: a headache when you're sitting there blinking. And yeah, just

734
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: like every now and then you'd see more, I'd see less,

735
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: and then I felt like I'd have to like readjust

736
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: my aim because now I was off a little bit.

737
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: Like it just it flustrated me a little bit, honestly.

738
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: And when you're shooting is different too, because you're shooting

739
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: at the range. You have on your protection which you're

740
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: supposed to actually hunt with two interesting because they never

741
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: really cover that and and hunter safety and you don't

742
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: see that in real life application, you're supposed to have

743
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: your protection on. You know, I just put plugs and

744
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: you wouldn't put like a headset on your shoot with headsets,

745
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: you're shooting with glasses. It's just different. In Europe they

746
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: always everybody's got like actual muffs on their they're like

747
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: not hunting, but when they decide to shoot, they put

748
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: them once they decided. When I guide it, I used

749
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: to just wear a pair I think they made by

750
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: Howard Light. It's like a a lot of guys wearing

751
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: like on the job site, like an orange band that

752
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: goes around your neck like a shoe. And I just

753
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: got plugs and I used to wear that on my

754
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: neck and then you would put them in before as

755
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: soon as the client was about to shoot. I just

756
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: could Remy and cal Remy and Kell are very good

757
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: about your protection. Remy, Uh, where's one of those old

758
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: You know, it looks like a headset, but it's you

759
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. It looks like what am

760
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: I getting? Net man, It's like your plugs on a

761
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: spring that you wear around your neck and what I

762
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: just described. But what is the world? But what is that?

763
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: If you're gonna look him up? What would you describe

764
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: it as, oh boy, they call it your pro or

765
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: is that something totally different? You know? I'm saying, like, well,

766
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: how do you describe a headset that plugs your ears? Yeah,

767
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 1: it looks like a big plastic horseshoe that has ear plugs.

768
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: I'll just just like an industry word for it. He's

769
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: real good about putting those in, and Cal wears him

770
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: around his neck. And when we were turkey hunting in Texas,

771
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: he sits down and no joke, we're calling to a turkey.

772
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: He don't know joke, puts the turkey, puts the ear

773
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: plugs in his ear? He does, but then can he

774
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: still like, that's why I can't do This' got special

775
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: high end ones that don't change. Yeah, Like you go

776
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: to a shooting range, man, it's rules. At a shooting range,

777
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: he protection rounded by a ton of people who are shooting.

778
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: Hearing protection, I protection. Now, we always like I always

779
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: wear my regular sunglasses and not but I've never got

780
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: in trouble for it. But they make like ballistic sunglasses.

781
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: But we were rightliar sunglasses And you need to talk

782
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: about what happened to you. Yeah, Howard Light just calls

783
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: it They're Quiet Band is the name of their products,

784
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: be honest. Um, So here's the thing where we're in

785
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of a tricky ground because they're not

786
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: meant for this. But I don't know, like is it

787
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: We don't really know. They just say I protection, Yeah,

788
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 1: it's certainly better than not having any on as in

789
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: my case, certainly, you know, and I would think that

790
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: you definitely want to wear the plastic lenses and not

791
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: the glass lenses because glass could shatter and hurt you.

792
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I was shooting a gun while back,

793
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: and uh, I don't want to get into details about

794
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: this because it's like a chance that I'm a little

795
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: bit to blame. Like I'm like, I'm not blaming yet

796
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: I have to blame, yeah, but I'm mostly to aim

797
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: because I'm the one that loaded the rifle. But I

798
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: put a seven mm O eight into a two seventy

799
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: w s M, and uh, the difference in caliber and

800
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 1: dimensions of those two bullets is uh not much about

801
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: a You're going from I put to eighty into two

802
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: seventy point to eight zero into point to seven zero.

803
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: The bullets still exited the gun, actually still hit the target.

804
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: It wasn't. I mean, it was only I don't know,

805
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: eight inches off of bulls eye um. But that created

806
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: enough pressure to you could say, blow up the gun

807
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: that I was shooting. And it happened to be a

808
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: left handed gun. I was shooting it right handed and

809
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: had a shot a left handed the all the blowout

810
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: of the gun would have gone away from my face.

811
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: But because if you think about the way a rifle

812
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: is built, the you know, the bowl opens on the

813
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: right hand side of a gun, that's for a right

814
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: handed shooter, and it's made that way, so if you

815
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 1: do have a blowout, it's going away from your head

816
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: and your face right and so in this case, it

817
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: was made to go to myself to the left of

818
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: the gun, and that's where my face was. And so

819
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: basically like the trigger assembly snapped, the stock had two

820
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 1: big cracks in it. It blew out the bottom plate

821
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: um and then yeah, there's actually a chunk of it.

822
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: Was a Model seventy and one of the bars that

823
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 1: runs along the bolt came was dislodged and actually raked

824
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: my shoulder. There's a picture of that man there, and

825
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: came off smoking hot. I got a scar on my shoulder.

826
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: My blame is this well kind of finish, Yeah, but

827
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: I feel like you're like you're absolving me a little bit. Okay,

828
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: no fish story. Well, thank goodness that. Um. I try

829
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 1: to I try to always wear glasses when I'm shooting, right,

830
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: but I didn't have my for some reason. My range

831
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: bag didn't have my eye protection, so I was wearing

832
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: my coast of sunglasses and it ended up when I

833
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: went to the doctor just to get checked out. Later,

834
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: the picture looks a lot worse. I definitely had a

835
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: puffy face from it, but there's a lot of like

836
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: carbon blast is sort of like how I've been describing it,

837
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: that it kind of pockmarked my face. One side of

838
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: my face definitely made it swell up a little bit.

839
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: But the doctor couldn't find actually any chunks of anything

840
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: embedded in my face or my neck. I can tell

841
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: you that my coast is definitely I feel like, I

842
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: don't know if I would have lost any vision, but

843
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: they had a scratch and a and a and a

844
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: crack in them, and when I took them off, you

845
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: can very clearly see the outline. And I'm just very

846
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: happy that my eyes did not take that shot, you know,

847
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: like the way that the rest of my face did

848
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: when we were shoot. Was I wearing my souped up

849
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: yellow lens coasts? You were wearing some sort of coast

850
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: you are I think you were wearing the ones that

851
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: are like kind of like a camouflage patterns. Yeah, but

852
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: the light lens I can't remember. That's those are like,

853
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: that's meant to be my hunting ones because the lens

854
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: isn't that dark wearing in low light conditions, for low

855
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: light conditions. But then when I got him in Camo,

856
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: just so I think I just saw this. I have

857
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of the aren't camel got him in Camo

858
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: and got the light kind of yellowy lens. So it's

859
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: like if the camel was property functioning, you'd think that

860
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: I just had yellow lenses. The yellow lenses were just

861
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: floating in the middle of what are those? That's yeah,

862
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: that's what I have. Though I typically just wear um,

863
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: I typically wear regular ones, but wearing and at the range,

864
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: I've never gotten grief for having I think it was

865
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: glad to have something on. But the plastic lens glass

866
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: lens thing isn't something I thought about too much because

867
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 1: I have both. But my camel ones have a plastic lens,

868
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 1: the glass lens, I like. But then when your kids

869
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: fire them across the tile floor. Yeah, I think, And

870
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 1: as far as I've always understood, because I owned glass

871
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: coast Is back in the day when I was guiding

872
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: a bunch um they, I think that the lens itself

873
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: is a little more durable like it just you just

874
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 1: won't get that um sort of that buff that kind

875
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: of happens on on a plastic lens eventually. Um. But again, yeah,

876
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: if you drop them, those plastic lens is oftentimes bounced

877
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: back and you put them back on your head and

878
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: go on about your business. Where you dropped those glass

879
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 1: onto the tile floor, like you said, and you're probably

880
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: gonna be out a lens. You know. I was in

881
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: Mexico once and I had my glass lens ones and

882
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: one of my kids just dropped my tale flour and

883
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 1: I sent them back in. Um, send him back into coast.

884
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: So they fixed him and send him back to me.

885
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: No problems where him for however long Again, then one

886
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: day my kids just standing there holding them with a

887
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: broken lens, like I didn't get to see, like how

888
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: he did it? Different? This is a different kid. This

889
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: is my younger one, Matthew, just like like walking around

890
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: with broken sunglasses. So he probably took a hammer and

891
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: hit him, sent him in like for the sent him

892
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: in for the warranty. They sent him back. Still have them,

893
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 1: and you know it's like, bro, take care of your glass.

894
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: Didn't get any grief about it, um, But now I have.

895
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: Now when I'm going on trips, bring two pairs smart

896
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: my glass lens which I just like to look through,

897
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: and then I bring some plastic lens ones after to man,

898
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: especially on like the trips that we do when you

899
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: know you're gonna be out and about whether it's the

900
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: beach or the mountains or whatever like. And I think

901
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: that I've heard is this true that like lighter colored

902
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: eyes or contend to be more sensitive, very sensitive. I

903
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 1: don't know about very but like I definitely feel again,

904
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: I've been wearing nice sunglasses now for probably close to

905
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: twenty years of my life, and if I get caught

906
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: out there without them, it's no. I have the same problem,

907
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: Like I cannot if I have to drive and it's

908
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: sunny out, it is impossible for me to keep my

909
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 1: eyes open, like they want to close the sun kills

910
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: them for some reason. I always have to have sunglasses on.

911
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: Oh I think, yeah, I think the more you wear

912
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: the more it's painful when you don't know. Maybe that's

913
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: what it is. You just adjust appropriately. Remember the first

914
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: time everybody says closet, but it used to say coose

915
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: to del Mar, which is still the name, but that

916
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: people used to say it. I remember the first time

917
00:53:55,239 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: I had a pair of the nineteen six I think,

918
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: long as time ago. But yeah, I can't stand it now.

919
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: But you can't get kids to wear them. And I

920
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: feel that kids. Uh you know, I was every parent

921
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: now I was all worried about sunscreen on their kids

922
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: all the time. No one thought about that before. Now

923
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 1: you're supposed to put sunglasses on your kids, put sunscreen

924
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: on your kids. And I kind of like fight against

925
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: that a little bit. It's like bike helmets. Always feel

926
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: a little guilty not putting it on them, but a

927
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: little guilty putting it on them. I don't. I would

928
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: wear my bike helmet when I got blocked away from

929
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 1: the house, take it off and ditch it in the woods. Sony,

930
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: ow um, there we are. We're gonna make you a

931
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: blocked out pair of shades. Yeah, but you xenate it.

932
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: It just made you tough up and learn how to shoot.

933
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: That was that was a you know a little a

934
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: little taste into what the future. I think one of

935
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: the hardest parts was just the positioning. That was just

936
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: like I did not expect it to be such a

937
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 1: like I can't even like a slunchdown. Yeah, it didn't

938
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: took a long time for that to feel comfortable, but

939
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: Sneaky Peet made me feel very comfortable after like the

940
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: twentieth time. Yeah, let's get into the hunt, the big hunt.

941
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: Who wants to go first? Well, what's the question? What

942
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: did you feel about it? I asked you what you

943
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: felt about hunter safety, how did it go? What you

944
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: felt about learning to shoot? M hmm, Okay, let me

945
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: let me do this. Let's let's enter into the hunting part.

946
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 1: Like this, you just wanted your first hun correct? Is correct?

947
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: Tracy successfully somewhat? Tracy successfully, Maggie had a great success,

948
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: and that it was a great time. But no dead turkey. Okay. Um.

949
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: If I asked you, let's put it this way. If

950
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: I asked you five years ago, do you think you'll

951
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: ever be a turkey hunter? What would you have said no.

952
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: If I said, what if I said, do you aspire?

953
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: You aspire to be an American hunter? Probably now that

954
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: would be a no. And if you asked any single

955
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: person who knew me at that time, who know me

956
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: at some point, their answer would also have been no way.

957
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. And when you pictured it, No,

958
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm not asking you to go back at the time

959
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: and think and then imagine your impressions five years ago,

960
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: but leading up to this and you pictured it, it'll

961
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: be like this and this is what happened. This is

962
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: what'll feel like. How um, how accurate was your How

963
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: accurate was your pre assessment or whatever I'm trying to

964
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: say that, like how accurate like your your mind movie,

965
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: your vision of it? How accurate was your vision of it? UM?

966
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: I would say there were there were some parts that

967
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: were accurate, and there were some parts that were vastly inaccurate.

968
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: Like I don't think I had an expectation that, um,

969
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: like everybody says it's it's hard to find turkeys, I

970
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: don't think I had an expectation that we would be

971
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: challenged as much as we were. Like actually hearing a

972
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: gobble like it was rigorous, not only into fault. We're

973
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: the because no no blame set um. But more also

974
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: in terms of like for those first couple of days,

975
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: I also felt like there were moments where I was

976
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: like physically challenged in ways that I didn't expect to

977
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: be physically challenged. Like I'm not sure I expected to

978
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: be climbing up you know, trying to keep up with

979
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: you as you're running, Like I I thought, where did

980
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: I run? You were running, but you're just so like

981
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: you you do this all the time and you're so strong,

982
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: and like I don't do a lot of this stuff

983
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: very often, And so my physical capabilities were tested in

984
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: a way that I probably didn't anticipate or expect to

985
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: be tested in that way, Like climbing over deadfall, I

986
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: was like getting blow it down, like we had we

987
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: had to cross to like blow down. Yeah, Like it

988
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: was just like wow, like there is you know, you

989
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: have to really be in like strong physical shape to

990
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: be able to be successful at it was like a hillside.

991
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: And I even said, you, when people talk about dog hair,

992
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: this that's what they're talking about. And when people talk

993
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: about blowdown, that's what they're talking about. This dog hair blowdown,

994
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: which is like a hillside of Lodgepole Pine where they're

995
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: like still like very densely packed, and then they get

996
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: leveled in a they get leveled in a windstorm, and

997
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: man it makes a mess. Well and I just was like,

998
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: he makes it look so easy. So I like, you know,

999
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: headed in thinking, oh, I'm just following Steve, and then

1000
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, my goodness, is not that easy.

1001
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: So you didn't picture that part? No, Yeah, there's nothing

1002
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: in yoga class that prepared No. No, it's defferent. It's

1003
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: a completely different type of physical demand or straight and

1004
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: it's not like it's just for a short period of

1005
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: time like there were times where from you know, first

1006
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: thing in the morning until the evening, you're out and about. Yeah,

1007
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: and it's not like you're just walking flat, you know,

1008
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: like you're really kind of experiencing, you know, a really

1009
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: diverse terrain, or at least we did. I feel you

1010
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: experienced a very you know, a western turkey hunt where

1011
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: people back east are gonna hear you talking about this.

1012
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: And sure there's places in West Virginia and you know,

1013
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: part of other parts of Appalachia that you know, people

1014
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: climb some hills turkey hunting, but like, well, you guys

1015
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: went through, especially the first afternoon we went out. I

1016
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: mean we pretty much did like a little Elk hunt,

1017
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you've been same kind of

1018
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: country and same stuff you would have covered going on

1019
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: at Elk in the afternoon, you know, we slid on

1020
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: my belly, so yeah, we had ye cut across a

1021
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: couple of creeks. I was crawling on the way back

1022
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: up Steve hillsides up and down. Maggie, you're a marathon runner.

1023
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: Have you ran You've ran marathons and like mega trail runs.

1024
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: Did you didn't find those hard walking around for turkeys?

1025
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: Did you know? I think the physical part I was.

1026
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: I felt like, yeah, I'm excited about this, but I

1027
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: want to see if I keep honest and legs. Yeah,

1028
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: I was excited about that. I think I kind of

1029
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: had an idea in my head about what that was

1030
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: gonna be. But I have an advantage, I'm like Tracy

1031
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: does because I edit. You know, I've edited hunts. I've

1032
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: seen what you guys do. So I was like, I

1033
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: think I know it kind of goes into this, you know,

1034
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: like I don't know everything, but physical part. I was like,

1035
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: I think I got for the most part. And I

1036
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:02,919
Speaker 1: know you like chastise me for saying, like everyone says

1037
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: they're always prepared for and they're not. And I was like, oh, yeah,

1038
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: well that's like the two things. The two things everyone

1039
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: says they're gonna do and don't that they're going to

1040
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: break their boots in when I wore them to the office.

1041
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: Always they're gonna like their boots and they're gonna like whatever.

1042
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: Get in shape means I probably it was in pretty

1043
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: decent shape. Oh yeah, you were. I mean you and

1044
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: I were waiting on the two camera was impressive. What

1045
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: was the thing that was most um, what was the

1046
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: thing Maggie that was most surprising about actually going out hunting,

1047
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: Like something that as much as you had exposure to it,

1048
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: Like what was the thing And you're like, oh, I

1049
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: get it now or I didn't picture this being like this.

1050
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: The emotional side to it, Like, I mean, I was drained.

1051
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: Every emotion I had in my body was put out there.

1052
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: Tell me more. I mean, it was excitement, then there

1053
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 1: was like disappointment at certain points, frustration, then I felt pressure.

1054
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: Then when I had my opportunity, I felt guilt and sadness.

1055
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: But then they were like came back and I was

1056
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: like one of vengeance. I mean, and then there was

1057
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: times too, but I was like I just loved it,

1058
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: Like I really was out there and I was like,

1059
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: this is like not on a trail like hiking. I

1060
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to go to like a

1061
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: trailhead now and just go for a hike. Like I

1062
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: loved it. We were just like off trail just moving

1063
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: through country like that was just listening but then stopping

1064
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: and just looking at stuff because the trail is such

1065
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: a different experience and out there and immersed and I

1066
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: like loved that part about it. Like that was just

1067
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: because like you learn you see how the animals are

1068
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: running contours and like the animals don't move across the

1069
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: landscape and asked backwards way they very much like go

1070
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: with the flow of the landscape. You know. It's cool

1071
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: to see totally and just like learning from the honest too.

1072
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, you know so much, you know,

1073
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: and like a lot of this stuff you don't get

1074
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: to see when you're editing. You know, you can get

1075
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: a really capture emotion. You have to feel it when

1076
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: you're having emotions. Did you remind yourself that like we're like,

1077
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,919
Speaker 1: but it's just a game, or did it feel sort

1078
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: of more real? You know? I mean, because how do

1079
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: you untangle it? You know, it's like a pastime, but

1080
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: but it brings out emotions that a lot of pastimes

1081
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: do not. I mean, people who play golf get pissed

1082
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: whatever they miss a shot, can get really mad, and

1083
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: they like bend their golf clubs. So it's like legit anger.

1084
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: But I feel like it doesn't have that. It doesn't

1085
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: and not being a golfer. Maybe I'm wrong, but it's

1086
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: hard for me to picture bringing about the full suite

1087
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: of emotions that come out. Yeah, I didn't expect that. Definitely,

1088
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: not a hundred rounds in my day and there's no

1089
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: not even close. I can tell you running a marathon.

1090
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: I was like when I did that, it's like, oh,

1091
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: it's the hardest thing. Is just an emotional journey. No,

1092
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: So what do you think gets attributed to then that

1093
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 1: it's so vastly deeper and more complex. I don't know

1094
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: if I can really answer that for you. I don't

1095
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: know that it just surprised me. I'm still processed. Yeah, totally,

1096
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: I did. That is just like came out of left field. Yeah.

1097
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: My brother describes it, um that he has that he

1098
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:24,919
Speaker 1: gets very lusty. Yeah, he wants like because he's trying

1099
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: to find the right word to sort of capture how

1100
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: badly he wants success. Oh. I definitely felt that. It's

1101
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: like he feels that the word lust almost does more justice. Yeah,

1102
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: I would agree. So lusty for like elk or turkeys

1103
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: or whatever. It's just you just want to get that

1104
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 1: thing and be successful so bad. Yeah. And I think

1105
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: what added to that is the turkey beer Tracy. And

1106
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: I mean, there wasn't very many gobbles, but we heard

1107
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: him on the first day and I'll never forget that.

1108
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: And I came back and it's like I heard him,

1109
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,959
Speaker 1: and you guys we're like, are you sure. I don't

1110
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: think there's any other noise. It sounds like a turkey

1111
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: out there. But I'll never forget that. Talk about your opportunity,

1112
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: tell us about your opportunity. It's like still heartbreaking. Um,

1113
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: we got their first light a little bit before a

1114
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: little bit before for sure, you guys had named the

1115
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: turkey m hm, sneaky. Yeah, we'd already been I think

1116
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: that was the third morning that we have been on him.

1117
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: We had hunted him like literally almost most of the

1118
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: prior two days. I mean, and you know where he roosts.

1119
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: He makes noise from the roost, hits the ground, does

1120
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: some gobbles, but will never come in. Yeah, we knew

1121
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: like his general zone. We sort of like we knew

1122
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: where he dusted himself even, I mean, we like knew

1123
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: his territory. But you hadn't had to experience yet at

1124
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 1: a distance. Maybe I think you did well, No, you

1125
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 1: did that first morning you saw him down. He saw

1126
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,919
Speaker 1: a glimpse of him cut across the hill. And that's

1127
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: you know, knowing that information and knowing like the layout

1128
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: of where he was roosting. We knew that at least

1129
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: twice he had gone, you know, looking up the hill,

1130
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 1: he had gone to the left and kind of gone

1131
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: down into this bowl. And that, you know, that's why

1132
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: we decided to set up there as opposed to on

1133
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: the ridge like the morning before, because he didn't come

1134
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: down the ridge towards us, kind of cut across the

1135
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: toe of the hill and went down into a into

1136
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: a bowl. Yeah, he evaded us. Oh man, he's good

1137
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: at evading. Yeah, so your opportunity there we are out

1138
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: in the woods sitting all set up. Honest, has got

1139
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 1: the decoys like how far? Yeah, like right where we

1140
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: know he's gonna walk, and it's just the waiting game. Now.

1141
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: My heart is just like in my throat, I'm like

1142
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: sweaty much over a hundred yards from his roost tree.

1143
01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 1: And it was a full hour until and luckily he

1144
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: got He would gobb well every five ten minutes from

1145
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 1: where he was, so we knew he hadn't drifted off

1146
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: in a different direction. Were you calling him or he

1147
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: would We had already I had already called enough the

1148
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: prior two days, and I was not gonna make his peep.

1149
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: So how were you playing on him finding you? Because

1150
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: we knew his direction to going the other way off

1151
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: this this ridge? Um, it was kind of hellhole ish,

1152
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: like there was more blowdowns, it was steep. It just

1153
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: wasn't And we had heard him in this bowl and

1154
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: wash him go into this bowl and just had like

1155
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: he's been spending a bunch of time in this bowl.

1156
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 1: So they just seen the natural path he's gonna eventually take.

1157
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: You were ambustion them, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, we're all

1158
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 1: set up and just give him the silent treatment. Yeah, yep. Yep, yep, yep,

1159
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: he's going to go off in some other direction. We

1160
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: at this point I figured he was probably a little

1161
01:07:55,880 --> 01:08:00,439
Speaker 1: smart or like new something. Yeah, but I will never

1162
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: forget when I first saw the hen come and she

1163
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 1: was I mean two hands and they were huge and

1164
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 1: puffed out, and I was like, oh my god, and

1165
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: she were like no, like you're like kind of fenders.

1166
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 1: They were like big. I'm just remembering like they were

1167
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: side by side in front of him, basically like and

1168
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, is that the collar.

1169
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I hadn't seen him at that point,

1170
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: and you you remember he said you will know. And

1171
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: when he came through, I was just like in my head,

1172
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 1: I was like, I could not believe that that's how

1173
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: they strutt around the forest when we are not around,

1174
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: Like this is just like what these animals do. That

1175
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: like weird to me, thought, But last spring I called

1176
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,759
Speaker 1: in a turkey for a guy who never hunted turkeys,

1177
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: and when the turkey showed up, we couldn't see very far,

1178
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: like off in one direction. All sudden he's just like

1179
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 1: there and remember before he shot, he goes, Oh my god.

1180
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: That's kind of how I felt because also, here's this

1181
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: like absurd blue head coming through the you know. Yeah, yeah,

1182
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: it was. He's all puffed up, you know, with his ladies.

1183
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: And then he came in and est was like, are

1184
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: you ready? And he called and the hens looked at

1185
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: directly at us, did not give a shit about the decoys. Yeah,

1186
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: that was my mistake. I mean, retrospectively, I should have

1187
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: not called. You know, we always we talked about not

1188
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: shooting him in strut because the head is more compact.

1189
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: He's kind of tucked into his body, right, and so

1190
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: if he's just standing there and his head is wrecked

1191
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: and up, the targets bigger. It's it's clear away from

1192
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: the body. It should be easier to hit, you know.

1193
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 1: And he's at twenty yards coming and strutting. And at

1194
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: the time when I said so, he just happens to

1195
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: be coming through the woods at twenty yards. Well, dude,

1196
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 1: like I said, moving quicker slow, I mean, understand what

1197
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 1: you're saying. He's like they're just fake walking, like they're

1198
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: gonna feed. Well, once he saw the decoy, he was

1199
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: probably moving a little bit quicker at the decoy, and

1200
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,839
Speaker 1: you tried to give him a call or an alarm

1201
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: putt oh, no, I just gave him just a couple

1202
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: of the alps, and the hands were like, I'm out

1203
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 1: of here. Yeah, the hands heard that, and we're like,

1204
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: that didn't come from those two hands I'm looking at.

1205
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: That came from up the hill twenty yards, you know.

1206
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: They just spun one eight went back the way they came.

1207
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: And of course he's sort of following gobbling the whole time.

1208
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: And every time I call, I'm like, I continue to

1209
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: call now because he's but again, there's a stump that

1210
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: when I set the decoys, I was didn't see like

1211
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 1: see the stump and go, oh, that's going to cause

1212
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: an issue. But he went behind the stump, came out

1213
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 1: on the other side. I called, and he I mean

1214
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: he turned and got behind that stump so fast, and

1215
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 1: then coming out on the other side of the stump,

1216
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 1: he was he had like definitely had some giddey up going,

1217
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: And in hindsight, you feel like you should have gotten

1218
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: a couple of cracks off. Maybe yeah, maybe isn't he

1219
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: was strutting? Sure, No, I should have just had you

1220
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 1: shoot him. Listen, I know about that whole thing. Not

1221
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: doing that. I think that is just I think that

1222
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: is some b s personally twenty yards Yeah, just shoot? Yes,

1223
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,799
Speaker 1: I knew it. I mean I was sad and upset.

1224
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 1: Did he feel your head full of that? Not to

1225
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 1: shoot him when he's in strut? We had talked about that,

1226
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 1: of course. Yeah, why do you think we're in this

1227
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: predicament right now? I don't know if she can't she

1228
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: arrived at it naturally. Oh no, no, no they didn't.

1229
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: They didn't teach that her safety Like, oh, one last

1230
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 1: thing class, never shoot him in strut? Are you aware

1231
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 1: of this seth the whole not shooting him in strut movement? Well,

1232
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 1: I always tried to like not shoot him in struct

1233
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: you know, but why well just because like, um, I

1234
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 1: don't know, you have a better chance of hitting me

1235
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: press me, um, And like I've I've shot turkeys in

1236
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: the strap before and just like totally blue there, fan

1237
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 1: apart and like all sorts of stuff, you know. But

1238
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: if it comes down to it, I have no problem

1239
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, no, if if everyone knows what's up.

1240
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 1: Like while I was something, my friend Jared Faint because

1241
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: he you know, he's a he's been he's a seasoned

1242
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 1: turkey hunter. And we had a turkey come in, and

1243
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 1: I knew that he was getting ready to shoot the

1244
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: turkey and turkeys in full Stratt and I gave the

1245
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: turkey up an alarm put and he lifted his head

1246
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 1: up and he shot. But that's because I know that

1247
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,679
Speaker 1: he's like a guy who's been shooting turkeys his whole life. Yeah,

1248
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 1: this year, I was calling a turkey in for Rick,

1249
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 1: and uh he the turkey never left Strutt except for

1250
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 1: when he would gobble, which is all that's a risk

1251
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 1: a little, that's a risky shot, you know, just shooting

1252
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 1: when he when he gobbles. But I made a call

1253
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 1: in a turkey gobble, and Rick shot him when when

1254
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: he gobbled, just because it was the only time his

1255
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 1: head would leave, you know, being tucked up against his body. Yeah.

1256
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 1: But so there he wanders off unscathed, and you had

1257
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: an emotional outpouring. Pull my hat down over my eyes

1258
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 1: and to adrenaline left my body and I was vibrating.

1259
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 1: Did you get a chill? Adrenaline left your body? Man?

1260
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 1: But you know what's real when you get the chill.

1261
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: And in my head, I just kept replaying and be

1262
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 1: like now now, now, now, I just like which someone

1263
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: would have just whispered like now, but that was just

1264
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: my you know, it was everything I did not expect

1265
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: it to be. I thought I was prepared after all

1266
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: the setups in your mind, in your mind movie, you

1267
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 1: didn't picture that being something that would happen. And then

1268
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 1: Tracy had something happened in her thing like even just

1269
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: you saying that makes my heart began beating fast again. Okay,

1270
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 1: talk about your opportunity which you capitalized on. So we

1271
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 1: had been I mean this was this was basically the

1272
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: first day. I think it was day four, the first

1273
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 1: day where we actually had heard a gobble like we

1274
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 1: had been kind of trying to find birds for a

1275
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 1: long time. We hunted three I think we hunted three days.

1276
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: I heard one gobble in three days. You heard zero gobbles.

1277
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 1: Have we hunted three days? Yeah? I think so. And

1278
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 1: we went to we handed three days on all on

1279
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: forest land, national forest land, hunting three days on national

1280
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 1: forest I never heard of gobel. And then went to

1281
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 1: a private parcel, went to a private farm parcel and

1282
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: behold and behold, lo and behold, we we found some birds,

1283
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: which I mean, having spent that amount of time without

1284
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: seeing any birds, like the change and emotion and the

1285
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: change and feeling that you feel physically. I was like,

1286
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: oh my god, we're here, this is we're getting close.

1287
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: This is go time. And I think not only like

1288
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: do you start to think about how is this going

1289
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 1: to play out? Am I going to know what to do?

1290
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: Thinking about what you guys had taught us, like just

1291
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: making sure that like everything was like in check. And

1292
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 1: I think you anticipate that it's all going to kind

1293
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: of happen exactly like you anticipated happening, and I'm prepared,

1294
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 1: and then you know that doesn't happen, and you know

1295
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 1: you're kind of in this situation where, um, you know,

1296
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 1: you're outside of your comfort zone and the intensity of

1297
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 1: it all is a lot to handle. Our turkey we

1298
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 1: we we were actually about to head inside because it

1299
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: was starting to pour rain, and I was shocked actually

1300
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 1: that Steve had kind of said, you know what, I

1301
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: think we should go inside for a little while. I

1302
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 1: was like, really, Stephen, I wouldn't say we should go

1303
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 1: inside for a little while. Yeah, Well I didn't wanna.

1304
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 1: I'm trying to you know, I don't want to sell

1305
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 1: you short, but I'm trying to make it be that

1306
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 1: you're having a decent time, right, which I absolutely was.

1307
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: And then literally upon completion of you finishing that sentence,

1308
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 1: we heard a gobble. Oh, the hen came in. Hand

1309
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 1: started and we started communicating with the hen and she

1310
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: came out and she was a little feisty. She was

1311
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 1: a little feisty bad. I was shocked. She she marched

1312
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: right up to the decoys, kind of had our little

1313
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 1: moment with them, like she was like, what's happening over here?

1314
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: And then she was like nothing, I'm not interested in

1315
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: and off she went. She's like, hey, you're not alive,

1316
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 1: but she didn't. I was so surprised because she was like,

1317
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 1: you're not alive. I'm moving on. She wasn't like what

1318
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 1: is this? She was like, this is a little different.

1319
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: I've seen him be baffled by it sometimes, like kind

1320
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 1: of birds will attack it totally. And I also last

1321
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 1: year had this really amazing experience of watching the hand

1322
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 1: come up to one and just purring at it and

1323
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:53,719
Speaker 1: pecking at it. Really yeah, five minutes, really five minutes.

1324
01:16:54,360 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 1: That must have been incredible. The stage interest saying yeah

1325
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 1: and got irritated with it. Fascinating. Yeah, she was. She

1326
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 1: had bigger, bigger things. Actually, five minutes, felt like yeah, yeah, yeah,

1327
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: And that was the first bird we had really seen.

1328
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 1: We'd obviously seen some birds and other capacities, but like

1329
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 1: that was the first bird we'd actually seen. Where we

1330
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 1: were set up, we were kind of in a different mindset,

1331
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 1: if you will, Like I felt like we were kind

1332
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: of in go time. So then you know, it starts

1333
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 1: to get real. Then all of a sudden, and I'm

1334
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 1: thinking through my head because the day before, Steve was

1335
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 1: like when you see a turkey, you do not move

1336
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 1: an inch, not an inch. So I'm like, you know,

1337
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 1: I definitely don't want to be the one that f

1338
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: everything up. So I'm thinking in my mind all the

1339
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 1: things that you told me that I'm making sure, I'm

1340
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm prepared. And then we've been here to

1341
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,640
Speaker 1: Gobbler Kindest and he was obviously with some hands. Can

1342
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: you kind of hear him go back and forth and

1343
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 1: you never got closer. You can make him gobble, but

1344
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 1: it didn't do any good. And I never knew exactly

1345
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 1: where it was, Like We're all kind of like, where

1346
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 1: is that coming from? Like you weren't totally like some

1347
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 1: couple hundred yards away some direction. But then all of

1348
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 1: a sudden, he's like, it's like, oh, he's coming. Oh yeah,

1349
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden there was one gobble

1350
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 1: where literally he could have been sitting in my lap.

1351
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: Like I was like, that is so close. I was

1352
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: loud as anything but double heard around the world. Absolutely yeah,

1353
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: And it was so loud. There's where guys, I want

1354
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 1: to like talk a little bit because I'm a big

1355
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 1: part of your mishap. It wasn't even a misshap. We

1356
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 1: keep calling, I keep calling to miss that, but we

1357
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: felt to me, I felt, but it wasn't. Actually I

1358
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 1: can think he's going to take the line of travel

1359
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: and come from our to our left, like the hen

1360
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 1: did sort of kind of like calling from where she

1361
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 1: was calling um and then the gobble herd around the

1362
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 1: world felt like it was in my lap literally, but

1363
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 1: he wasn't in my lap, and I couldn't see him

1364
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 1: in front of me, and I was so confused. And

1365
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: the only place I could think that it was was

1366
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 1: like clear across the fielding, So I'm like, how could

1367
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 1: it start? A blind sign behind us is solid and

1368
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 1: to the right is blind side. So it's just like

1369
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 1: it feels like he's like yelling in my ear. But Mike,

1370
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 1: where is he right? And I'm like, he, is it

1371
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 1: at all possible that it is somehow across this field?

1372
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: And it sounded like that, and so I'm staring trying

1373
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: to find it. And then out of the corner of

1374
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 1: my eye here running at us, running at us as

1375
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 1: a turkey like sprinting, Yes, as fast as the turkey

1376
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 1: runs yeah. And then and I like and sets down there.

1377
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: We got a camera guy down there. A turkey running

1378
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 1: is not a good sign. Typically, typically not a good sign.

1379
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:17,839
Speaker 1: And in the second that I registered this happening instead

1380
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 1: of there's there's two thoughts, and like they're racing, and

1381
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: there's a thought in my head that was behind in

1382
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,759
Speaker 1: the race, which is the true thought that he's running

1383
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 1: up to the decoy. He's so jacked up that he's

1384
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 1: literally running to the decoy. But that thought is lagging

1385
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 1: behind in this race. To the four of my mind,

1386
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 1: it is losing the race. The thought that's like that

1387
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: turkey is out of here because something spooked it. But

1388
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:54,839
Speaker 1: he's extremely close, close close enough where I say shoot

1389
01:20:54,840 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 1: the turkey. And all all we had prepared for was

1390
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: this stationary, this turkey that's standing there at thirty yards

1391
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 1: perfect to a box, right exactly as prepared to its

1392
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: perfect scenario. I knew exactly what I was supposed to

1393
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 1: be aiming. I feel like I would have a little

1394
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 1: more time. It didn't really work out. It's hard to

1395
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:29,639
Speaker 1: recreate the running turkey in you know, well, maybe somebody

1396
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 1: should come up with that, because it would be nice

1397
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 1: to have some experience with a moving target. That was

1398
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 1: my hardest thing too. It was like, wow, setting up

1399
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: and trying to move would not move a lot. Because

1400
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 1: if you're trying not to speak him. Yeah, if you

1401
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 1: have met anyone, they'll tell you never shoot at a

1402
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: moving turkey. But I got I have the lust. I

1403
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 1: have the lust, and I can see why, Like I

1404
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: kind of felt like I even had the lust, and

1405
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 1: this was my first freaking time, Like I can see

1406
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 1: where that that's like a very real reality totally, especially

1407
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,560
Speaker 1: after you feel like you've spent so much time grinding

1408
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 1: for this moment. Like I was like, here he is,

1409
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 1: and if we had waited a second, he would have

1410
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 1: stood there for thirty seconds a minute, strutting, kicking that thing,

1411
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 1: nuzzling it. But instead I just like, but I will

1412
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 1: tell you, just it doesn't even make sense that I

1413
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 1: miss judged because he didn't have his head positioned. How

1414
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 1: spook Turkey does. His head was tucked. I just screwed up,

1415
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 1: but I was grateful I screwed up to though, Steve,

1416
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 1: because I didn't shoot as well as I would have

1417
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:47,799
Speaker 1: liked to do. That was a chip shot. I am.

1418
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 1: I am working on my status, but it is clear

1419
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 1: that I am not at that level. I'm working now,

1420
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 1: come on, you'll get there, But um, you know what

1421
01:22:57,560 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 1: you gotta do to get there, and you don't want

1422
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 1: to do that. Probably not we told you? What? What

1423
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 1: how you tell true outdoors? I don't think you told

1424
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 1: me that. Yeah, we we distilled one single thing. Lay

1425
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 1: it on me. I wasn't there. I don't want to

1426
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 1: remind you. You can't talk about it, so honest, and

1427
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 1: I know this secret. We told you. We told you.

1428
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:24,679
Speaker 1: I did hear about it. Told about trapping. No no, no, no, no,

1429
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 1: no go on no. Okay, a seasoned shooter. You in

1430
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 1: ten years okay, you in ten years? Would that would

1431
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 1: be not a bad shot? Next year? Okay? So you're

1432
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 1: going to practice? You take over whatever I'm saying. You

1433
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 1: were agitated. I can tell you I've been in that

1434
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: position before, buddies. He's scream, whisper in your ear shott.

1435
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 1: It is not cool. But but on the flip side,

1436
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 1: I actually feel very grateful that he was doing that

1437
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 1: because a shot on your own, I'm not sure like

1438
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:09,480
Speaker 1: I shot it standing there, but I I appreciated the guidance,

1439
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it was it was

1440
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 1: an intense guidance. Don't get me wrong. It was not

1441
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: like Tracy shoot the birds time. It was shoot shoot

1442
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 1: the bird, you know. And I was like, Okay, it's

1443
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 1: a real problem of mine. It's a real problem of mine. Um.

1444
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 1: I feel that that when I'm mentoring new hunters, I

1445
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 1: typically let them down at at at at the moment

1446
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 1: of truth. I don't feel like I was let down.

1447
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:43,440
Speaker 1: I think I'm running out of different uh I am.

1448
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm not sympathetic to the pacing that they that they

1449
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: feel as comfortable. Well, I want to force them to

1450
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 1: a more quicker pacing, right yeah. But I mean for

1451
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 1: me personally, like I actually think it was helpful because

1452
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: I like to be pushed a little bit, Like I

1453
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 1: I like that challenge. So I didn't mind that it

1454
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 1: was more a matter of because he came out from

1455
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 1: the right so unexpectedly, and I think you had us

1456
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 1: on him slightly before I even did. And then I

1457
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, there he is, Oh God.

1458
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 1: And then you're like, shoot the bird. And then I

1459
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: was like, this is time that I felt like I

1460
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 1: couldn't really like get my good shot. Obviously I didn't

1461
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 1: get as good of a shot as I would have wanted.

1462
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 1: Walked through the shooting, but you have to use the

1463
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 1: word blouch instead of bang. Okay, I feel like some

1464
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 1: of it is like very foggy because it was all

1465
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: It's all happened so damn fast too. So okay, So

1466
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm set up, I'm hunched down, I'm ready to go,

1467
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 1: and I see this bird come like shockingly out of

1468
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 1: my right hand side, and then you're like, shoot, shoot

1469
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 1: the bird. And I was like, hey, so I I

1470
01:25:55,280 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 1: pulled the trigger, blouch, and I'm like, oh yeah. The

1471
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 1: bird flies up in the air. The wings are kind

1472
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: of like and I was like, and I at that

1473
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 1: moment was like, Johann has told me that when you

1474
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 1: sometimes when you kill a turkey, that they can like

1475
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: flounder flap for a little bit before they die. Is

1476
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 1: that what's happening, Steve, I don't know at that point,

1477
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 1: I didn't know. Okay, take it to farming for a minute. Okay,

1478
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 1: in the old days and still today, in some cases,

1479
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 1: people will dispatch the chicken, say by beheading it. Ye,

1480
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 1: and what do those chickens do? Did they just fall over?

1481
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 1: Never even twitch? No, they kind of like doing they

1482
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 1: run around the barnyard. Oh yeah, Okay. So when you

1483
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 1: get a direct hit on a turkey, it doesn't like

1484
01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 1: the best direct hit on the turkey oftentimes doesn't immediately

1485
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 1: register to one as a lethal hit because there is

1486
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 1: a lot of activity that happens. Our action his head

1487
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 1: is his head has been like effectively removed right by

1488
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 1: a direct shot from a shotgun. But there's a lot

1489
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 1: of movement. So that's what I was thinking was potentially transpiring.

1490
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 1: For a split I think you said something. You were like, yes,

1491
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 1: you got him or something like that, and I was like, oh, really,

1492
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:32,599
Speaker 1: Like I was a little taken aback by shot, and

1493
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:39,759
Speaker 1: then literally you were like shoot again. Yeah. It's funny

1494
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: how fast they can go from flopping too having their

1495
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 1: legs underneath them. You have their legs underneath them, and

1496
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 1: that's what Steve said he was like, I saw that

1497
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,719
Speaker 1: he was getting his legs underneath him, and it wasn't

1498
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:53,600
Speaker 1: a lethal shot. And at that point, I think my

1499
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 1: mind was so flustered that I was like, oh goodness, gracious,

1500
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 1: Like I was a little bit a wreck kind of that.

1501
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,560
Speaker 1: I don't think I could focus enough to like regroup

1502
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 1: and like shoot effectively. Again, I think that was the

1503
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: issue because I was stressed and I was panicked, and

1504
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: I was like, I've hit him, but I haven't lethally

1505
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 1: hit him, And now we have an issue. And we

1506
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 1: had two more shells in the old clip, that's correct,

1507
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 1: the old tube. Neither one of them touched a bird.

1508
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 1: I shot them, but they did not touch the bird.

1509
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is a disaster. Then it

1510
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 1: started to like sink in and I was like, this

1511
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 1: is exactly what I was most fearful would happen. That

1512
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 1: I would injure a bird and not lethally shoot him,

1513
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,799
Speaker 1: and then I would cause pain and suffering into an animal.

1514
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 1: And that was exactly what happened. So but like you

1515
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 1: don't really have a chance to like process at all,

1516
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: because you're like, we gotta go, we gotta go find him.

1517
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like you're like, we gotta go,

1518
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,599
Speaker 1: we gotta go to find the bird. So it's like

1519
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 1: you're trying to process all of what just transpired, but

1520
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 1: like no time because you're off running across the field

1521
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 1: looking for tracks, trying to locate him, trying to find him,

1522
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,639
Speaker 1: trying to find where he went. Like while that all

1523
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 1: is happening, like you still have a lot of adrenaline

1524
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 1: going but I couldn't help but like in my mind,

1525
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: think about what that poor bird was going through, which

1526
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 1: probably isn't necessarily realistic, but that was exactly where my

1527
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 1: head went. It was like he's in pain, he's suffering, Like,

1528
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,679
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't expect this. This isn't fair, Like

1529
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 1: I was going through all of those types of emotions,

1530
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 1: couple with the fact that I was like, goddamn it,

1531
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:41,879
Speaker 1: why did I suck so bad? Like I was annoyed

1532
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 1: that I felt like I had not capitalized successfully and

1533
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 1: like impressively on the moment. Let's say we had had

1534
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 1: your first hunt. We had decided was going to be

1535
01:29:55,000 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 1: a uh deer hunt mm hmmm, rifle deer hunt m hm,

1536
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 1: and we knew that in the best case, like how

1537
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 1: it typically goes best case scenario, we would instruct you

1538
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 1: to when we get a chance at a deer, we're

1539
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 1: gonna shoot behind the front shoulder so that we punch

1540
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 1: a hole through its lungs. We don't waste to either

1541
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 1: shoulder meat. Okay, And we knew that what would happen

1542
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 1: would be you hit the deer, the deer is gonna

1543
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 1: run off ten yards a hundred yards and runoff, bleed out,

1544
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:29,840
Speaker 1: pile up and die. And we knew going to new

1545
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 1: that's what it was gonna look like. How would you

1546
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 1: feel that happened? Because effectively, you shoot a turkey, it

1547
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 1: has some moment a panic, runs off, dies, there's a

1548
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 1: little bit of time expires, but runs off, gets in

1549
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 1: the brush, dies, and sometimes some whatever minutes elapsed. Um,

1550
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 1: But it wasn't what we thought what happen because we

1551
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 1: thought the typically shoot turkey just dies. If I like,

1552
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 1: how much of it was disappointment that it didn't go

1553
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 1: as we planned, and how much of it was the

1554
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 1: whore of it having this brief moment of confusion and pain.

1555
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:09,600
Speaker 1: So I think it's the second That second point was

1556
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 1: probably what I was struggling with the most. But then

1557
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 1: after I kind of processed those emotions. I was like, oh,

1558
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 1: the disappointment of not having it go exactly as I

1559
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 1: had hoped or as you guys would have wanted it

1560
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 1: to go. That that was secondary. So we had shot

1561
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: a deer and I was like, perfect shot, but the

1562
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,760
Speaker 1: deer ran off and we see it like going, it

1563
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 1: crosses the creek and goes and runs over a hill,

1564
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 1: and You're like, oh my god, I'm nervous, and I'm like, no, no,

1565
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 1: it's perfect shot, and we gold narrat is dead. Would

1566
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 1: you have been really upset about the distance? The time

1567
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 1: and distance that elapsed not upsetting to you know, I

1568
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:49,680
Speaker 1: think it would have been upsetting to me. However, Like,

1569
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 1: given the fact that we were in I was in

1570
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 1: a situation with you kind of guiding me and providing

1571
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 1: your expertise and your experience and perspective. If you had

1572
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 1: counseled me in that situation to say this is quite common,

1573
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 1: I guarantee you that you know we'll find him, you know,

1574
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 1: very close, or would have you that would that would

1575
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 1: ease my concern? Well, I was shocked that we found it.

1576
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 1: That's why I think I could eat that from you.

1577
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:22,599
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is a tricky like we

1578
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 1: now have it a very tricky situation. You guys got

1579
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 1: lucky people. When bird gets out of sight of you,

1580
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,600
Speaker 1: they don't leave a blood trail. I it was a

1581
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 1: range of emotions because we got the first thing we

1582
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 1: did went and checked the river bank and couldn't find

1583
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:44,479
Speaker 1: running turkey tracks crossing it, and Seth had had enough experience.

1584
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 1: Even though Seth behind the scenes said that enough experience

1585
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 1: where he's like when they hit the stick stuff, they yeah,

1586
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 1: it seems like that were like most birds, you know,

1587
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,799
Speaker 1: when water fell hung like, their defense is to fly away.

1588
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 1: So when they can't do that, they just find a

1589
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 1: spot of talking and they just sit very still. And

1590
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:11,679
Speaker 1: I've seen turkeys do that before. So no, I feel

1591
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,679
Speaker 1: very grateful that we were able to recover him. Honestly,

1592
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 1: it took a while to process at all emotionally. But

1593
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 1: had that not been a final outcome, I feel like

1594
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:23,440
Speaker 1: I would have felt very differently about my whole experience.

1595
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 1: Have you eaten a needed turkey yet? I have? What

1596
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: did you do with it? I made turky schnitzel, just

1597
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 1: like you told me to. It was a huge success,

1598
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 1: and I'm going to make some more turkey schnitzel this

1599
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 1: weekend because Jeremiah's dad and brother are in town, and

1600
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 1: so I figured it would be fun to cook up

1601
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,439
Speaker 1: some turkey your future father in law, future brother in law. Yeah,

1602
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 1: and walking to you how you made your schnitzel? I

1603
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 1: followed your recipe? Okay, oh absolutely, I'm not just like

1604
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 1: singing my turkey schnitzel. I followed the expertise recipe by

1605
01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:00,320
Speaker 1: the book. Did you put saran rap that? When he

1606
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:06,559
Speaker 1: hammered it out? It was awesome? The lemon makes all

1607
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 1: the difference in the world. Lemon is is is critical?

1608
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:12,879
Speaker 1: Um here in this How do you feel about this, Maggie?

1609
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 1: That that um that you haven't had any I just

1610
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 1: want to go back out there and get one, did

1611
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:21,879
Speaker 1: you guys? You guys notice, but um you should probably

1612
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 1: Tracy pass a little bit of turkey. Did Steve give

1613
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 1: me a little more crest than that? She did? She

1614
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 1: shared with me. So I'm very grateful for appreciative after

1615
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 1: our after our hunting, and our surprise about the turkey,

1616
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 1: not just pile them up dead? Um, I thought for

1617
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes later's a zero percent chance Tracy

1618
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 1: will be doing this again. And then an hour later

1619
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 1: I put it to you and you were already at

1620
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 1: ninety yeah, and I would tell you I'm at a

1621
01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: hundred now, like even with further distance from it and

1622
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 1: the reflection of it, and just the um kind of

1623
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 1: respective that I have on the whole experience and how

1624
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 1: magnificent it was, and also just the connection to the

1625
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 1: outdoors and spending that time kind of connected to nature.

1626
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 1: Like even probably if I hadn't got a bird, I

1627
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: would probably tell you now I'd be a percent likely

1628
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 1: to do it again that I want to do it again.

1629
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:19,640
Speaker 1: And partly there's this mentality of like I want to

1630
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 1: do it again better, like I want to improve upon

1631
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 1: my previous experience. I want to get more comfortable, I

1632
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,599
Speaker 1: want to be more accurate and effective, like I want

1633
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:33,480
Speaker 1: to get better at it. Where are you at, Maggie?

1634
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 1: And it's funny that it's weird to see this in you.

1635
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 1: Where not that it contradicts something I thought about you,

1636
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 1: but it's weird to seeing you. There's sort of like

1637
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 1: a um like a friendly sort of vendetta kind of

1638
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 1: thing going up. I mean, like because you're competitive, you

1639
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 1: obviously competitive, and so you I can see that you

1640
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:56,479
Speaker 1: don't like, like you don't like the feeling of having

1641
01:35:56,560 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 1: not been successful, but not in a powerty way, but

1642
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:03,719
Speaker 1: in a way where you're this isn't over. I'll figure

1643
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 1: this out. Yeah, definitely. And I mean I think that's

1644
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,200
Speaker 1: what draws me to running and individual sports and then

1645
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 1: get go and I'd say, huneting, it's definitely falls. I mean,

1646
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 1: it's not sport necessarily. I mean there's more to it

1647
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 1: than that, but you do it and like you're going

1648
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 1: out there for a purpose. There's a thing you want

1649
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 1: to happen, and you're gonna and you're wanting to make

1650
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 1: that thing happen. Yeah. And I think that's why I

1651
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 1: was a decent athlete in college is that I didn't

1652
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 1: get down if I didn't perform well in a race.

1653
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:31,599
Speaker 1: It was not like that's like the end all be all.

1654
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 1: You know, there's a room to improve and reflect on

1655
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,720
Speaker 1: that and get better. And I don't know, I came

1656
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 1: away with just so much appreciation that just and fun,

1657
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 1: Like I had so much fun it makes me just

1658
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 1: want to go do it again. Maggie went to Josh

1659
01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 1: Pristine when we got home and order yourself up a

1660
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 1: O eight. I didn't that synthet just got worried. I'm

1661
01:36:54,760 --> 01:37:01,800
Speaker 1: getting it. Yeah, so the drive is there? Seriously, is

1662
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:05,760
Speaker 1: this gonna be the first firearm in your household the

1663
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:07,680
Speaker 1: first time? My mom's probably hearing about it right now.

1664
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:15,800
Speaker 1: American gun owner. Yeah, I think I think to our

1665
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:18,679
Speaker 1: experience just from like chasing that one bird and having

1666
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 1: it be so intimate. Like we tried other places. I

1667
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 1: was always like, yeah, let's go here, Sure, be honest,

1668
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 1: whatever you think, but that intimate moment was just I

1669
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:32,640
Speaker 1: don't know. That's addicting. You gonna up, You're gonna ring

1670
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 1: up safe place in your house to keep it. You

1671
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 1: gotta you guysn't have kids run around them. M hm,

1672
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 1: I need your help. Yeah, tell me what to do.

1673
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 1: Um of grown ups. I mean it's different, but no kids,

1674
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 1: that's exciting. Yeah, what are you gonna hind deer this year?

1675
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 1: If you guys will help teach me? Sure? Okay? Any

1676
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:05,719
Speaker 1: final thought? Mm hmmm, I don't know. No speaking, he's

1677
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 1: still out there. I mean Turkey still live. Checked another

1678
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 1: day he were he oh man, did you make a

1679
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 1: fool of me that day? Um? But set's going this weekend.

1680
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:19,519
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna we're gonna go. I'm gonna I'm

1681
01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 1: gonna check on him. He should see if you're still around.

1682
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 1: I'm out of days. Man, he's too he's a little

1683
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 1: too far away. If he was like ten to thirty

1684
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 1: minutes away, i'd probably work something out. But he's two

1685
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 1: hours away. So yeah, you're going camping for the whole

1686
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 1: weekend up there. Yeah, so you can put some time in. Yeah,

1687
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 1: it's just beautiful too. Oh, it's gonna be a good

1688
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:45,400
Speaker 1: Turkey weekend in Montana. Man. Yeah, yeah, Tracy. Got any

1689
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:47,719
Speaker 1: final thoughts too, Final thoughts that I want to share.

1690
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 1: One is, you know, I feel like a lot of

1691
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 1: people talk about the importance of like having a mentor

1692
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:56,680
Speaker 1: as you get into hunting, and I never really understood.

1693
01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 1: I mean, of course, you always want to have somebody

1694
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 1: that can help teach you or you kind of show

1695
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 1: you the ropes. I never really understood the real value

1696
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 1: of being able to try something new with people who

1697
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 1: are so experienced and so um so much of an

1698
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 1: expert in kind of the the area. Um and I

1699
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 1: feel like I would have never been able to kind

1700
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:22,679
Speaker 1: of embrace this new adventure without that. So really grateful,

1701
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 1: honestly for you guys taking the time to kind of

1702
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 1: introduce us, because the knowledge that was imparted, the experience

1703
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 1: that was imparted, the level of security that I felt

1704
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:39,640
Speaker 1: knowing that I had somebody next to me who is

1705
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 1: an expert who could help guide and navigate any situation

1706
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 1: that would potentially arise was monumental. And I would say

1707
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:52,479
Speaker 1: to anybody who's looking to kind of try something new,

1708
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 1: especially in the world of hunting, finding that is so valuable,

1709
01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 1: like that is that was a critical part of UM

1710
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 1: me being able to experience this and wanting to experience

1711
01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 1: it again. And then two, I would just say it

1712
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 1: was really grateful to be surrounded by people who are

1713
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 1: just badass people that really like to just also have fun.

1714
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 1: So like, while things were really tough, had there not

1715
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 1: been the laughter that there was, I would have been

1716
01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:21,720
Speaker 1: a whole different ball game. And so being able to

1717
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 1: infuse a little bit of that fun and that laughter, like,

1718
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 1: I felt like I had a really awesome group around

1719
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:30,880
Speaker 1: me supporting me even in my worst moments, because you

1720
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 1: guys saw a lot of ship that you probably would

1721
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:36,839
Speaker 1: never you know have seen. UM that was really grateful

1722
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:39,560
Speaker 1: for that. Thank you, Thank you. Take you back on

1723
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:41,320
Speaker 1: that too. I mean, how many times you try something

1724
01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 1: new and it's like an expert trying to show you

1725
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 1: totally not willing to come down near your level, or

1726
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 1: like they make you feel dumb in that situation and

1727
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:50,840
Speaker 1: you don't know what they're talking about. I mean, this

1728
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 1: was like eye opening, and I don't know, very appreciative

1729
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 1: and grateful for the experience and knowledge that's like bestowed

1730
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 1: at me. I mean, that's not laws on me. I

1731
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 1: still think about turkeys when I'm going to bed at night.

1732
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 1: What what's fun? What what's fun about? Uh? Going out

1733
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:10,680
Speaker 1: with you guys and showing you some things there is

1734
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:15,680
Speaker 1: that you're open about, kind of open about what you

1735
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 1: know and don't know. And it's nice to see things

1736
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 1: through new eyes, you know, and for people to be

1737
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 1: like have the sort of self confidence and willingness to

1738
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:27,639
Speaker 1: kind of like fess up about what they aren't aware

1739
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:30,080
Speaker 1: of or what they haven't seen before, because it helps

1740
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:33,599
Speaker 1: you sort of guide someone and understand what they're going through.

1741
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot of times there's a

1742
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:37,639
Speaker 1: way that some people get in new situation, they feel

1743
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:40,840
Speaker 1: like they kind of want to bluff m their way along,

1744
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:44,480
Speaker 1: and that bluffing along can actually be a real impediment

1745
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 1: to a kind of meaningful progress because they're sort of

1746
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:51,080
Speaker 1: a posturing someone might have like, oh this is nothing

1747
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 1: new to me, and oh yeah, and it just it

1748
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 1: gets awkward and weird. But to have to to be

1749
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:58,240
Speaker 1: with people who have that self confidence to kind of

1750
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 1: like to express marvel or express interest and what you

1751
01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 1: don't know and do know, what you're comfortable with and

1752
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:08,519
Speaker 1: not comfortable with, makes the whole thing pleageable and easy.

1753
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:12,840
Speaker 1: And there's never there's no um weirdness or tension that

1754
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 1: arises yet from someone who like from someone being a bullshitter, right, totally,

1755
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 1: totally yes, Yeah, hoping a year from now, you guys

1756
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:28,920
Speaker 1: just roll in about eleven one morning. You guys are like, dude,

1757
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 1: there he was have like some real good, you know,

1758
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 1: hunting stories that you guys weren't with Steve or myself.

1759
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 1: Drag and a couple of rope greggors behind you. We're

1760
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:43,639
Speaker 1: coming in and yeah with dead turkeys come checking out,

1761
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 1: um behind my desk. Yeah, I hope to see that. No.

1762
01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Tracy, you should really play up

1763
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:55,960
Speaker 1: the like the provider role when you are serving this

1764
01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:59,320
Speaker 1: Turkey this weekend to your to your soon to be

1765
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 1: in law us, because this is great. I just like,

1766
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:04,600
Speaker 1: I just I want to like imagine that you're in

1767
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:06,320
Speaker 1: there and your father in law and your brother in

1768
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:09,679
Speaker 1: law and you're like, yeah, well you know, someone around

1769
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 1: here's got to bring home to me. Serve it up, guys,

1770
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:18,600
Speaker 1: guys do that? Well, well, little lady, what do we

1771
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:23,439
Speaker 1: have here? Like just something nice shot? It's a little

1772
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:26,920
Speaker 1: something nice shot out in the woods. Yeah. I think

1773
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:29,960
Speaker 1: they're all just a bit shocked. You're like, oh, it

1774
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 1: didn't expect this out of you knew you were moving

1775
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 1: to Mount Canada. I got a lot of hats and

1776
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 1: a lot of gusts bloods for Christmas year, but we

1777
01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 1: did not expect this. I just keep getting shocked from

1778
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:46,559
Speaker 1: everyone too. So I leveled off Old Betsy really Nellie

1779
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 1: Bells bells, and old Nellie bell barks. Alright, so next

1780
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:57,560
Speaker 1: time we'll talk with you, guys, we'll talk after we

1781
01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:01,559
Speaker 1: do hunt this fall. Come down, let's do it. Okay,

1782
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm game. I gotta get some practicing in the meantime

1783
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:06,240
Speaker 1: so that you got any final things would be good.

1784
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:09,599
Speaker 1: Go ahead. I was just one of the most memorable.

1785
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 1: I think meat eater shoots that I've been on just

1786
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:15,439
Speaker 1: because of laughing and like the just seeing like two

1787
01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 1: people have never done this thing before. Um, we're a

1788
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 1: lot of fun. We laughed a lot. It was a

1789
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 1: good time. We need to frame that, Ninja Ninjammer. Oh

1790
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 1: I fo you weren't a true outdoors and that's right,

1791
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:32,560
Speaker 1: the beaver trapping thing come dark. That one night you

1792
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 1: wanted to go to bed. I was like you because

1793
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:39,000
Speaker 1: YA was gonna like you canna go outside a little

1794
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 1: steel and you wanted to go to bed. I was down,

1795
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:44,200
Speaker 1: but you advised me would not be a good idea.

1796
01:44:46,560 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 1: All right, thank you. Everyone stops offstros Past Control feat