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Speaker 1: sent you. What is going on everybody, John Middlecoff three

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Speaker 1: and Out podcast? How are we doing? Recording this about

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Speaker 1: an hour before the uh the Hall of Fame game.

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Speaker 1: So if you're coming to look for breakdown of preseason football,

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Speaker 1: but more specifically this game, you've come to the wrong podcast.

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Speaker 1: But I do have some thoughts on the preseason, something

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Speaker 1: consequences for being a moron. He had hundreds of millions

426
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 1: of dollars at stake, and honestly, it's not even an

427
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: effective it's just affecting his ability to play. But like

428
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: the league, and it's always takes a bunch of ship,

429
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: this is simply Deshaun Watson's problem, nobody else's. It's not

430
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 1: the league or and the Browns for actively being cool

431
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: with it when they didn't know the outcome or the facts.

432
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 1: Even Sue Robinson, someone that has no agenda, no connection

433
00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: to anything, said he lied to a judge like that happened.

434
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: That's not my opinion, that's not anyone that's that's what

435
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 1: she said in fact. So I don't know. I just

436
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: I don't take the guy seriously anymore. Um, I think

437
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: he's just a walking talking red flag. Doesn't mean he's

438
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,479
Speaker 1: a criminal. Might not be, might be, I don't know.

439
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: But like I, if I was goodell to me, I've

440
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: said all along, indefinite suspension give him a year, which

441
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: is essentially and definite suspension. To me, ultimately as a year,

442
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: they're not gonna because he hasn't played in a couple

443
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: of years. But to think that he's just gonna come

444
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,479
Speaker 1: back if he misses a year and hit the ground running,

445
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: to me feels a little crazy like that. That feels

446
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 1: like a little bit of a stretch the Dolphins, listen.

447
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: To be good in any business, you gotta push the envelope,

448
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: and there are lines, and let's face it, we don't

449
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: live in a utopian society. Sometimes you gotta cross them.

450
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: That's a reality to be successful. And there's a difference

451
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 1: between breaking rules and crossing lines and breaking the law right,

452
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: but most successful people in any business are crossing lines

453
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 1: and are pushing the envelope in times when makes people uncomfortable,

454
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: welcome to the real world. And then there's a time

455
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: when you just like, what are you doing? And clearly

456
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: Steven Ross is a successful individual, multibillionaire, great businessman, but

457
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, his dealings in the NFL are consistently

458
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: pretty embarrassing. I've been saying this for a while. No

459
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: guy is consistently connected with more like famous coaches than Ross.

460
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: Oh he's gonna get hardball, Oh, he's gonna get Lincoln Riley. Oh,

461
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna get Sean Payton. And he never gets any

462
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: of them. He never lands anybody. They say coffees for closures.

463
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: Is Steven Ross not drinking any coffee because he never

464
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: closes a thing? Do I actually care that he was

465
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: trying to land Sean Payton and Tom Brady in the

466
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: middle of the season. I honestly don't give a ship

467
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: because if you don't think that that stuff doesn't happen,

468
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: sometimes you would be naive. But for whatever reason, when

469
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: Steven Ross does it, he never figures or finishes the deal.

470
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: And in this case, he was dealing with so many

471
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: different teams, the Robert Kraft, the Glazers, the Saints, they

472
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: all came after him because he's that big of a

473
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: clumsy idiot. He ain't smooth. There are a lot of

474
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: people doing similar stuff that never ever get caught, yet

475
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: this guy always gets his hand caught in the cookie jar.

476
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: And I've said over and over I have absolutely, let

477
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: me repeat, zero issues with Steven Ross, even making a

478
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: joke but being serious. Hey, Brian were one in twelve.

479
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: How about we lose out so I don't know, we

480
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 1: could get this guy named Joe Burrow. The the Miami

481
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: Dolphins won three of their last five games in two thousand.

482
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: Team three of their last five games they had the

483
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: number one overall pick until they lost or won three

484
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: of their last five games. One of those games was

485
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: to the Cincinnati Bengals in overtime. Think about that. The

486
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, who landed Joe Burrow because they had the

487
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: worst record, two years later were in the fucking Super Bowl.

488
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: So this notion that the tanking listen taking from week

489
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: one is embarrassing. What the Cleveland Browns did was a joke.

490
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: It's another thing when you really suck and you have

491
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: tried throughout the season and you're awful, and it's the

492
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: middle of December. Winning a game when you have one

493
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: or two wins past December ten is absolutely meaningless, and

494
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: in this case had major repercussions. Because if you told

495
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: me that the Dolphins would have ended up with Joe

496
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: Burrow instead of to a tongue of Valoa, who's to

497
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: say that they wouldn't have been in l A playing

498
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: the Ramps. They won nine games with toua. What if

499
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: I put Joe Burrow on that team? Do they win

500
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: eleven or twelve is their defense and Joe Burrow good

501
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: enough to compete in the a f C the a

502
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 1: f C playoffs, Well, the Bengals were so why wouldn't

503
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: they Yet they ended up with TUA. Now you could

504
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: also say it was their own fault. They passed on

505
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: two of for Justin Herbert, which even if TA turns

506
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: out to be solid, he's never, ever, not in a

507
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: million years, gonna be Justin Herbert. But I'm sorry, Like,

508
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't blame Steven Ross for saying that, for thinking that,

509
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: I blame Brian Flores because that was moronic. That was

510
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: beyond stupid. Again, he beat the Bengals in overtime, great

511
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: win their buddy. Uh. And last but not least Rogers Uh.

512
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: He went on the Cleans. He was on that podcast

513
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: which listen to my girlfriend, A bunch of other people,

514
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: a lot of you guys on in Instagram DM me

515
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: like this. I that the podcast. I forget the guy's name. Uh,

516
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: is like a lead, you know, leader of a swinger community,

517
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: which again I don't judge. You can do whatever you

518
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: want in your bedroom. I I never understand people to

519
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: judge other people what they do in their own house,

520
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: they're significant others like I don't care, Like if that

521
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: ain't for you, that ain't for you, Stop worrying about

522
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: what other people do. So if the guy is the

523
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: leader of the swinger community, that's for him. And clearly

524
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: Rodgers is dating this chick uh the Blue Sky or

525
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: whatever the hell her name is a little weird, There's

526
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. You know what hit me. I

527
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: was watching and I can't I'm gonna keep saying this

528
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: the Jeter documentary, and I honestly I rooted more for

529
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: the Red Sox back then then the Yankees is awesome.

530
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: Derek Jeter, I gotta admit as the man. But one

531
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: thing that really stood out in the Jeter documentary, in

532
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: the Brady documentary and in the Last Dance is one

533
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: can and honestly you could put Tiger, even though he

534
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: never consented to his documentaries. It was a huge theme

535
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: in Tiger's career as well. The best in the business

536
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: at their sports all of them have in common. They

537
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: are very very close with their family family and mainly

538
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: what I mean their parents. Now, you don't choose where

539
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: your parents are. So if your parents suck or assholes

540
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: or get weird as you get famous, I don't blame

541
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: you if it gets weird and you separate from them.

542
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: I can't relate the greatest supporters I've ever had in

543
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: my life and honestly ever will have. I can't see

544
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: my future children ever being the support of my future wife,

545
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: like it'll be very difficult, it's not even possible, will

546
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: be my parents. So I can't relate to potentially Rogers

547
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: parents what they did on the back stor of the

548
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: one night with Jordan's that was weird. And if that,

549
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's the reason he hates them, but

550
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: if my parents did that, I would be piste too.

551
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: But clearly there's more to it, and I've I've heard

552
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: different theories from people, but I don't know. But Jeter, Michael, Jordan's,

553
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Tiger Woods all till till their either their

554
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: parents passed away. Obviously Michael's was killed, Tiger's dad died

555
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: whatever a decade ago. The support, the cohesion and listen,

556
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: we all fight. There are parents like you're not always

557
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: lovey dovey three, but it was a tight unit and

558
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: they're the best of their sport. So the Rogers thing,

559
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: the parents like, let's face it, a little weird, Like

560
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people that aren't that close

561
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: with their brothers or their sisters. That's not abnormal at

562
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: all to me. The parent thing like Fields, let's face it,

563
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: and I've defended where I differ from Colin is like,

564
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: let's face it, Colin's getting writer and writer, how weird

565
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: this guy is. And for the first time, I really

566
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: put last year's loss against the forty Niners on Aaron Rodgers,

567
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: not that he was terrible, but like, you gotta be better, Bro.

568
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: You're the back to back m v P. You're the

569
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: best player on the planet. You're absolutely humming. You're playing

570
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,959
Speaker 1: at home. You can't lose back to back years at

571
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: lambeau Field. You gotta find a way. And two years ago,

572
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: COVID year, you lose to Brady. I'll give you a

573
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: little bit of a pass there. The forty Niners did

574
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: not score an offensive touchdown under no circumstances. Can you

575
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: lose that game? And you're the best player in the world,

576
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: You're one of the best players ever. You gotta find

577
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: a way. I put that on him more than I

578
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: do Lafleur more than I do on the special teams

579
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: coach more than anyone. Because even the special teams coach

580
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: screws up and they score a touchdown, you should still

581
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: win that game twenty three to thirteen. You should never

582
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: in a million years lose that game. But Rogers, let's

583
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: face it, get a little weird, you know, psychedelics and listen,

584
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: I've taken my fair share of edible, so I'm not

585
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: necessarily judging him that way. But it just feels like

586
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: he's getting a little more and more out there, and uh,

587
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: it'll be very fascinating. Um, you know how this year goes.

588
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: You know, his chick who someone forwarded me or Instagram page?

589
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: You know, you date Hollywood people. Let's face Hollywood, they're

590
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: super rich, living this little bubble of l A. It's

591
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: just the cruise they run in by standard for them

592
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: is pretty low. So if you data Hall, would girl

593
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: lady woman like my expectations for her to be like, yeah,

594
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: she's pretty normal chick, I would tend I'll be surprised

595
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: if that's the you know, the scouting report on her.

596
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: But this one that he's dating, you know, Blue Ivy

597
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: or again, I can't even I didn't write it down.

598
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: I can't even remember her name like a little weird.

599
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: It is a little weird. But if Rogers, you know,

600
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: people keep saying like, are we sure the packers are

601
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: gonna be good? I am as long as they got

602
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: him on psychedelics and got his cleanse and locked and loaded.

603
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: If he keeps playing, regardless of all that crap, if

604
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: he keeps playing like he's playing, I just don't see.

605
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: They might not be as explosive in the passing game.

606
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: Their defense is gonna be better in their running game

607
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: is awesome. But I'm sorry like that to me, I

608
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: just because of what my parents meant to me that

609
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: I don't care what how mad they made me, whether

610
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: I became worth a hundred million dollars, whether I was

611
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: worth two dollars. I judge you when you turn on

612
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: your parents. We all have moments where we don't talk.

613
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: We're getting a fight with her dad and we don't

614
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: talk to him for a while, getting a fight with

615
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: her mom when we're young, we don't talk to him,

616
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: you know, for five days, mom, even men and men

617
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: and women and women. I give you a little bit,

618
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: but like as a guy to your mom, I don't know.

619
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: I just that seems a little weird to me, and

620
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: this Rogers thing is honestly, it's kind of funny because

621
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly the Eagles documentary, which was fantastic

622
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: and I watched it years ago. I think I watched

623
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: it during a back in two tho. I'm pretty sure

624
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: that they were fighting Don Henley and maybe their guitar

625
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: urists or something, and they went to like the desert,

626
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was like Palm Springs or

627
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: Vegas or somewhere, and took peyote uh for like two

628
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: days and just wrote a bunch of bangers like some

629
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: of their all time hits. Could be wrong on that one,

630
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: but I actually might have been on an edible when

631
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: I watched that, but I think so. You never know,

632
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes psychedelics, edibles, you know, taking seventeen day

633
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: open and puke cleanses turns you into even a better player.

634
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be hard because he's been the best

635
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 1: player in the league for two straight years Brady's forty

636
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: five birthday. He's an all time outlier. We all know that,

637
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: but I also think that I think we're He's the first,

638
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: and anytime you're the first, you change the game, like

639
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: part of like Damn Netflix, you can just watch all

640
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 1: these movies from this app. And now there's seventeen million apps.

641
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: I mean I subscribed to like seven of them and

642
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: I only watched four of them. I mean, half of

643
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 1: them are taking my money. But anytime you're the first,

644
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: it's pretty eye opening, and it's like, this is crazy.

645
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: He's a forty five year old quarterback who if it

646
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: wasn't Aaron Rodgers, could have won the MVP last year.

647
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: So we've seen older players play. Most of them suck

648
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: at the end. William Mays for the Mets is the

649
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: one I always heard as a kid. It's like sports lore. Now,

650
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: you never want to be Willie Mays holding on too

651
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: long with the Mets, you know. But as time goes on,

652
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan with the Wizards. I know a lot of

653
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: people have argued, like, you know, he was actually a

654
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: little better than you think. But Tom Brady is easily

655
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 1: the best old guy we've ever seen. I also think

656
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: there are some reasons for it. One like, when I

657
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: was a kid, like really young kid, there was this

658
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: restaurant I grew up in Davis, California. I think it's

659
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: called Mr Bees. It's like where everyone grew up going

660
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: in like the fifties, sixties, seventies, and even by the eighties.

661
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: I think it went under in like the mid nineties.

662
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: But literally you went there for lunch to get a

663
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: burger and a milkshake. My dad, early on in my life,

664
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: like probably many dads and many men all over America,

665
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: drank like seven Coca Cola's a day, and it was

666
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: not weird until everyone realized, like, yeah, I don't know

667
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: if this is the healthiest thing to do. And now

668
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, most people drink diet cokes and you can

669
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: argue whether that's healthy or not, but a good diet coke,

670
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: it's just right. But my point is, like in the sixties,

671
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: in the seventies, people would have cokes NonStop, like people

672
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: drink water. Now people had milkshakes for lunch. Now listen,

673
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm not anti good milkshake at lunch, but like that

674
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: was a staple. But my point is that health was

675
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: nowhere near. Do you think we talked about calories in

676
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: the seventies and eighties. In the nineties, I don't remember

677
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: being talking about calories that much in the nineties, I

678
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: would say the last couple of decades and definitely the

679
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: last decade, health and wellness training has gone to a

680
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: completely different level. And for these guys with the amount

681
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: of money on the line, Tom Brady is just the

682
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: first and honestly, you know, obviously he's the best, right

683
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: He's the best quarterback of all time, definitely the most

684
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: accomplished quarterback of all time. And probably no quarterback ever

685
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: again is gonna win seven Super Bowls. I feel pretty

686
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: good about saying that no quarterback again is gonna win seven.

687
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: We might see a guy win three, four even feels

688
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: like a stretch, but sevens a lot, but part of it.

689
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: Clearly he wons several after he was thirty seven, and

690
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: historically in basketball and baseball, and definitely in football, once

691
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 1: you got to your mid thirties, like game, set, match,

692
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna change moving forward. I'm not sing

693
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: in like thirty years, we're gonna have a bunch of

694
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: quarterbacks playing at two years old. But I don't think

695
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be as abnormal as it feels right now,

696
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: because of the training, because of the diet, because of

697
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: everything that we know. Not in a million years in

698
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven would I have taken a cold

699
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: shower when I was sore, I never would have crossed

700
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: my mind. I remember being places, whether it's like a

701
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: you know, a house a buddy rented, uh like a

702
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: beach house of friends when I was kids and the

703
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 1: water heater be out and you just you just wouldn't shower,

704
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: Like I'm not taking that cold that shower. Now I

705
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: actively get in and a lot of people do. It's

706
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: good for you. Think about the things that we talk

707
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: about now that we're never discussed. I mean, Tom Brady

708
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: literally has a book. My mom bought it for me.

709
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: It's that I read it, but it sits in like,

710
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: uh my living room, like you know, it's like a

711
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, just there with a bunch of other books.

712
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: To look cool about that again, I used to lies it,

713
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: but the information is out there. You can go to YouTube.

714
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 1: People talk about stuff that people used to not talk about.

715
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: And I think he just is gonna be the first

716
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: in terms of the length of his career. And I

717
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: think we'll see several other quarterbacks moving forward that play

718
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: we've already seen it, but have success. You know, some

719
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: of the guys that we're seeing, the Roethlisberger's, the Rivers,

720
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: like they kind of played through a different generation, and

721
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: obviously Ben lived a little bit different. But what about

722
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: like Mahomes and Josh Allen and Justin Herbert and some

723
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: of these back Jones, some of these quarterbacks now that

724
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: are living in the generation and they grow up in

725
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: the generation of health and wellness, because that's kind of

726
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: the generation they're growing up. That's honestly the generation we're

727
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: living in. I think about I love to eat, and

728
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: I think about all the time, like how many calories

729
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: are in this? Is this good for me? How many

730
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: sugars are in this? And I wouldn't call myself by

731
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: any means I'm health freak. I mean I just swung

732
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: By Sees Candy when I would sunglass Hut earlier today.

733
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: And the little Kramel goals are a bomb, But I

734
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 1: I just it's cool to see. It's historic. But he's

735
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: just going to be the first of many. Let's fire

736
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: around a couple of camps Arizona. The Kyler thing. I

737
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: can't even imagine, imagine how many video games Kyler Murray

738
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: played this week. He's home with the VID, not allowed

739
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: to show up for five days, which I kind of looked.

740
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't find it. If you test positive for the

741
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: VID and you're you feel fine, you have to stay

742
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: away for five days or is when you get back

743
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: just the first time that you test negative. Because if

744
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: I was the league, I know they banned all the mandates, right,

745
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 1: you don't need some jab mask and all that ships

746
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: out the window. But like if I test positive, well,

747
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: if I test negative the next day, I cool to

748
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: come back. Because when Kyler got it, they immediately said

749
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: five days, and that that is something to still keep

750
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: an eye on. Like if Mahomes just test positive on

751
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: like a Wednesday, he's just out for the game. Again,

752
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: I couldn't quite find the information, and I'm sure that's

753
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: sube to change. But interesting, he's he's home, he's home game.

754
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: And but listen, that whole thing was weird. We all

755
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: admit it right the clause, and you just they put

756
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: it in there for a reason. We can have our

757
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: different theories on it. But it happened and it did

758
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: not go well, and they got embarrassed. The team got embarrassed.

759
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: Kyler got embarrassed, and we all kind of look at

760
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: him like, I'm interested to watch him play because if

761
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: they if they struggle specifically him, We're all gonna make

762
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 1: fun of him. Oh he's not studying film. I didn't

763
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: watch any film. Always been playing Call of Duty like that.

764
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: That's inevitable, that's unavoidable at this point. But part of

765
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: the Kyler thing it stems back to the off season,

766
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: not just his contract demands, which, let's face it, after

767
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: you play the worst postseason game we've ever seen and

768
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: you still have several years on your contract, felt a

769
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: little poorly time. But in credit to him, it worked.

770
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: He had a week owner and they capitulated. But to me,

771
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: the craziest thing of this offseason with them, well, the

772
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: contract is the craziest, but the second craziest was they're

773
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: trying to keep Kyler happy. And they traded for Hopkins

774
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: was it last year or two years ago? And he

775
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: suspended so he's out six games. They know it. And

776
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: they lost Christian Kirk. But under Kingsbury and I watched

777
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: him a lot, just because I watched the NFC West

778
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 1: is Rundale Moore, the kid they drafted Perdue is really interesting.

779
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: They can find little random wide receivers to function in

780
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: that offense. Max Williams, the tight end who got hurt

781
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: last year's coming back. They resigned zach Ertz. They got little,

782
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, running backs that they'll be fine offensively in theory. Well,

783
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, when they wanted to keep Kyler happy,

784
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: they traded a draft pick, and not just any draft pick,

785
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: the twenty second overall pick for Hollywood Brown, who was

786
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: going into his fourth season, who was also a small player,

787
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: like they already have a small wide receiver, kind of

788
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: like Hollywood. His name is Rondale Moore. And then a

789
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: couple of days ago, and listen, by no means do

790
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: I drive slow? I I do not drive in the

791
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: slow lane, So I am not trying to act like

792
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 1: I've never sped right. And listen, I drive a Tahoe,

793
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: so it's hot. It's like I'm gonna go a hund

794
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: in twenty miles on the freeway. If I drove a

795
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: Porsche or Mercedes, maybe I would be more likely to

796
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: hit like nine when I wasn't paying attention because listen,

797
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: my mom has a newer car and driving at home

798
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: from Tahoe because I had some issue with my Tahoe.

799
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: It you go eighty five and some of these new

800
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: cars you don't even realize that they drive so smooth,

801
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: And he was arrested the other day and listen, Like,

802
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: like I said, I don't judge people for speeding in

803
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: terms of just getting a speeding ticket, but when you

804
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: get arrested for speeding, like you're clearly doing something egregious.

805
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: But to me, part of this symbolizes it's drip drip,

806
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: drip drip. I feel pretty confident, like I'm out on

807
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: these guys. Uh, they're jujus off. They feel off. Everything

808
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: with them feels off. Now that I don't think they're

809
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: gonna compete to get the number one overall pick. They

810
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: have too much talent. But I think what we saw

811
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: last year is going to be more of an outlier

812
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: over these next couple of years than something that's just

813
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 1: going to be consistent and sustained. Their culture never loved

814
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: doing moves like this, trading just because he's the guy's friend,

815
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: and he immediately gets arrested in his training camp. You know,

816
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: it's just not a good sign. Let's go to the

817
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: Steelers to sign Mr Bisky as your starting quarterback, and

818
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: I get it that there aren't many options. You go

819
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: to free agency, Roethlisberger retires, What the hell are you

820
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: gonna do? Who are they gonna sign Mariota Trabisky. Like

821
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: all the names, Jimmy wasn't available at the time. There

822
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: weren't many options, if any. So I don't mind signing

823
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: him as a backup quarterback. And I think ultimately they

824
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: gave him up two million dollars. The Bills did it

825
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: last year. But to sign him and then say he

826
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: is going to be our starting quarterback is borderline insanity.

827
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: Mr Whisky is not a starting quarterback, especially on a

828
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: team that views themselves and rightfully so. We got a

829
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: playoff roster, wet, decent quarterback play we win ten eleven

830
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 1: games were in the playoffs. That's how the Pittsburgh Steelers

831
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: viewed themselves and they consistently live up to that. Well,

832
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: reports have been. Mitch has been a little up and down,

833
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: of course he has. He's Mitch Rabinsky. And then you go,

834
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: why John, they drafted Kenny Pickett in the first round.

835
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: And I believe this to my core, I think, and

836
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: you're taught this as a scout, Watch the player before

837
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: you get the character right up, Because when when you're

838
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: in a school and someone gives you a character and

839
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: you start asking about the player, the guy, the person,

840
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: and it's positive or negative, it's gonna impact the way

841
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: you think about a guy. So when I go in

842
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: somewhere and the pro liaison, the offensive coordinator, the trainer,

843
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: the equipment guy, the academic lady, every single person around

844
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 1: the program is like, I freaking love James. I would

845
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: let my daughter Mary James I would give I would

846
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: rent it out a room for free for James. I

847
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: would bet that if football disappeared tomorrow, James could be

848
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: the CEO Wills Fargo. He could uh start a tech company,

849
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: he could go, uh figure out the homeless problem in California.

850
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: There is nothing this kid can't do if he puts

851
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: his mind to it. And you're like, holy shit, this

852
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: guy just sounds like, uh, an incredible human being. He

853
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: is the type guy we would like on our team.

854
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: Who wouldn't This guy is a fantastic And then you're

855
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: watching him. You're like, well, you know, I wish he

856
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: was a little faster, Ah, wish he had a little

857
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: better hands. But you're like, you know, I love this guy.

858
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: You push him up. The same thing happens the opposite way, right,

859
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: all the negative speech, all the negative speech, and then

860
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: you're watching him. He's really good. You're like, well, you know,

861
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: it's like is he a good guy? It can impact you.

862
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: And the one thing that Mike Tomlin and Kevin Colbert,

863
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: they were around the guy. I saw it years ago

864
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: with John Lynch and Solomon Thomas. John Lynch, I can't

865
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: remember why I was taking a class at Stanford. Obviously

866
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: he was a Stanford I don't know if he maybe

867
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: he was going back to graduate. I don't know the

868
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: exact I think I thought he graduated when he went pro.

869
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: But he was involved in Stanford and was in a

870
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: class or sat next to Solomon Thomas and got to

871
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: know him. This is before he was a general manager.

872
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 1: Fell in love with the guy because who wouldn't Solomon

873
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: Thomas a fantastic human being? He was too close. Then

874
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 1: they drafted him number three overall and it was a disaster.

875
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: Had no business being drafted that. I I don't care.

876
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you know a lot of people, a

877
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: lot of pontificators had him going. If you watch him

878
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: play and you knew what you were doing under no

879
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: circumstances when you draft that guy in the top ten,

880
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: But once you get to know him, you're like, god,

881
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: I want this guy in my building and the backfired.

882
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 1: And these guys because Pittsburgh, the University of Pittsburgh plays

883
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: at the Steeler Stadium, I think their offices are right

884
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: around there. They got to know the guy, and I've

885
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: heard he's a great guy, and everyone's like, you know

886
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: his play. He's kind of like a poor poor man's

887
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: mac Owns. And now he's running with the threes. He

888
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: can't even get above Mason Rudolph. Now you can say

889
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: maybe the Steelers are old school, you gotta earn your time.

890
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I never saw it. I never

891
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: saw it, not for a second. Again, not disputing the

892
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: guy seem like a good guy. I'd be friends with him.

893
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: Taking the guy in the first round to be your quarterback,

894
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: that that is a that is a bold move, Cotton,

895
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: and I think they were too close to it. Well,

896
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: here's the thing with the Steelers, Like you're not paying

897
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: Mitch anything. And honestly, Kenny Pickett like he does he

898
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: have to play this year? Of course, now he's running

899
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: with the threes. Mason Rudolph cannot be your starting quarterback.

900
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 1: We've seen that movie. It's it's a disaster. People walk

901
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: out of it. How about Jimmy Garoppolo. I witnessed this

902
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: week the most normal, bizarre thing I've ever seen in

903
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: my entire life. Every day I went out to forty

904
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: nine or practice. Practice starts around ten thirty. But really, guys,

905
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: you know that they let us in a like ish

906
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: got Everyone's already on the field. People are screwing around, stretching,

907
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: doing different things. When you get out there, there is

908
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: like this third field that is uh, kind of behind

909
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 1: the stands. First two days, Jimmy Garoppolo just throwing players

910
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: walking by him. Mike Shanahan as he was walking out

911
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: of the practice field slaps Jimmy on the butt. They

912
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: b asked for like five minutes. It's completely normal, even

913
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: though this guy is on the team. But let's face it,

914
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: he's no longer on the team. He's just throwing, waving

915
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: the guys thrown to trainers. By the third day of practice,

916
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: he was on the practice field throwing a red zone.

917
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: He looks like Jimmy Garoppolo. Arm looks normal, looks in

918
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: good shape, fantastic hair, tans on point, John Line, good

919
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: looking dude. And I was thinking, like, why don't the

920
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: Steelers just go get this guy? We keep saying, like,

921
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: what about Seattle? In what world would Jimmy want to

922
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 1: go to Seattle? They suck. Obviously, Houston's going with Davis Mills.

923
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: They should. The Giants maybe, but they're terrible too. The

924
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: Steelers are trying to make the playoffs and they don't

925
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: need then Roethlisberger in the prime. We just saw that

926
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 1: last year. Roethlisberg couldn't throw a past like five yards,

927
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: but he was smart. He knew what he was doing.

928
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: To me, if I'm the Steelers and I've listened, you

929
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: might know by about two weeks, like we cannot have

930
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: Mr Biscuity Bear starting quarterback and Kenny Pickett isn't remotely ready.

931
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: We just thought he was a great guy, and maybe

932
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: he turns out to be a full time backup. Why

933
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: don't we go get Jimmy Garoppolo Because Jimmy Garoppolo has

934
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: proven if you have a really good team, you can

935
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: make the playoffs with him as a starting quarterback. To me,

936
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. And last, but not least, Uh,

937
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 1: there's a balance, right If you leave a practice limping

938
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: and it turns out like you didn't break an ankle

939
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: or tearing a c out, it's like you're gonna miss

940
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: a week, like whatever, no big deal. And then there

941
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: are these situations like you know, we're not concerned yet,

942
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 1: but this is a little weird, like Chandler Jones hasn't

943
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: practiced right with the Raiders, like well, he's got an

944
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: undisclosed injury. And this I've been monitoring this from AFAR.

945
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: But it's hard to tell with McVey because even last

946
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: year he gave Stafford some time off. He doesn't make

947
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 1: him play in the preseason. Is I saw rap sheet

948
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: to say today that Stafford and I remember my dad

949
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: had tennis elbow. Uh, the guy he worked for, Jack

950
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: had awful arthritis and tendonitis. And I've seen it in

951
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: other people. I've I've never had it, but no people

952
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: that have had it at different agents. I've known younger

953
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: people that had. It's clearly very painful, and there are

954
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: different reasons for again, not a medical doctor, is that

955
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: he's got tendonitis in his throwing elbow, and anyone listening

956
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: that follows baseball knows that, Like usually that's a bad precursor.

957
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: I think once upon a time that kind of started

958
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: that way with Roethlisberger. And I'm not saying to overreact

959
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: to this, but even rap Sheet was like, you know,

960
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: they're pretty confident that everything's gonna be okay. And to me,

961
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: this is just something to keep an eye on because

962
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: he's a guy who's predicated on a big arm and

963
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: he's been throwing now for a long time. That the

964
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: only thing that could true, like if Aaron Donald had

965
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: an injury and missed a bunch of games, whatever, if

966
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: Stafford goes out, the Rams would be fucked. It would

967
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: be a disaster. I don't blame them for slow playing this.

968
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: Not having him throw completely makes sense. That is the

969
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: right move. But if he does get hurt or this

970
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: persists and worst case scenario wherever to need surgery, uh,

971
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: it would be bye bye to them for the season.

972
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: So the only way that this this process in which

973
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: they've done to build the team or respect the hell

974
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: out of it. You just saw in baseball with the padres.

975
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: I love, I admire any team, any business, any human

976
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: being that's willing to take their chips put it in

977
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: the middle of the table that takes balls. But the

978
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: reality is anyone that's played poker knows that when you

979
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: double down in blackjack, sometimes you lose. Sometimes you double

980
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: down on eleven and they give you a three, and

981
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: then the dealer you know, pops an eight team and

982
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: they take you know, depending on how many cocktails you've

983
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: had in drinkers and thousand dollars, five hundred bucks, two dollars,

984
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. I don't know how much you're betting,

985
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: but it hurts you get piste unless you've had a

986
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: lot of cocktails. Then you just place another bed. But

987
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: when you put all your chips in the middle of

988
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: the table, the simple reality is you're not always gonna hit.

989
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: There's stock skills. I've put a lot of money into

990
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: it is a disaster right now, and it had a

991
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: disaster day. I'm way down and listen, I just think

992
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,959
Speaker 1: of today. It one day in like three or four years.

993
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: It's either gonna be like a five, six ten bagger

994
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: or I'm gonna lose six figures on it. There's no

995
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 1: in between. Like there's no in between with the ramps.

996
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: They're either going to be a power or they're gonna

997
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: be a disaster. I never see them. Oh, they're just

998
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: like you know eight nine, Like no, that ain't their

999
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: thing and they're not playing for that, which I respect,

1000
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: like they didn't want to. They're going all in, and

1001
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: to me, the only true, true thing that would completely

1002
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: derail them would be this guy. And listen, he is.

1003
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: I respect Matt Stafford. I I love that Stafford as

1004
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: a player, uh even and partly because of the way

1005
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: what he proved last year. I was kind of out

1006
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: on him in mid season and he entered the bell.

1007
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: He showed his moxie. He was awesome in the playoffs.

1008
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: He seems like a fantastic dude. Who doesn't love that

1009
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: guy as a human being, let alone. I like, I

1010
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: like strong arm quarterbacks. Uh. That he's my style of player,

1011
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: Like interceptions don't bother me if you make big plays,

1012
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: and he's a big play guy. But that arm. I mean,

1013
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: he's literally worth like two fifty million. I think they

1014
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: just gave him a huge two or a million dark

1015
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: contract extension. So just something to keep an eye on, man,

1016
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: because we we've seen it in recent years with Roethlisberger. Again,

1017
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: he was older to see it with pictures all the time.

1018
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 1: I remember the Giants with Matt Caine, who wasn't really

1019
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: a hard thrower, but his arm went and it happens

1020
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: with was it to grow Um has had elbow problems.

1021
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: You know, what's his name, the other dude that was

1022
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: on the Mets. I think he's now on the Angels,

1023
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: synder guard. I mean, all these guys their arms blow.

1024
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: It's a little different with pitching. But if that goes,

1025
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, bye bye rams. Uh. But that's that's what

1026
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: they signed up for that. They would be the first

1027
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: to tell you that. Uh. And it's worked. I mean

1028
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: they're the Super Bowl champions for a reason because you know,

1029
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: they quadrupled down and they hit one. Uh. We'll go

1030
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: mail bag this weekend at John middlecoff is the Instagram

1031
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: fire in those d m s, got a lot of

1032
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: d m s and uh and yeah, football season. Hopefully

1033
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: you guys enjoyed cannon in the Hall of Fame game

1034
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: if you watched it. If you didn't, I don't totally

1035
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: blame me. It's it's not like Derek Card, Trevor Lawrenceer planned,

1036
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: but it is football. You know, it is football. Hall

1037
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: of Fame weekend. Congrats all the Hall of famers. I

1038
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: think Bryant Young, Tony Boselli, Dick for Meal going in.

1039
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: I think um kind of a weird class, But I

1040
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: like all the guys. I've talked to Brian Young before.

1041
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: Absolute stud love Dick for Meal. We will win with

1042
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: Kerr Warner. Uh. Tony Basely actually ran into him at

1043
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: a Starbucks in where I live, probably two or three

1044
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: months ago, and for like a minute, I just stared

1045
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: at him. I'm like, God, that guy's enormous, and Jesus

1046
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: he looks familiar. I'm like that that Tony Bassally. I

1047
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: almost went up I introduced myself to him, but I didn't,

1048
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 1: And it turns out it was definitely him. And now

1049
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: he's a future Hall of Famer. Uh, well, he's not

1050
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: even future. If you're listening to this on like Saturday,

1051
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: I think he's technically in. And it's like John Madden

1052
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: says he always dreamed about that all the bus when

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Speaker 1: the lights go out, that they talked to each other

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Speaker 1: and R I P John Madden, r I P. Vince Scully.

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Speaker 1: Uh what a life that guy lead? Huh called? I

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00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: mean from my life the thing that I grew up

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00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: a Giants fan. Technically still am one, even though I

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00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: despised the joke of the team they're rolling out and

1059
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: the Dodgers beating the ship out of him every day.

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Speaker 1: This week is Vince Gully called the catch Joe Montana

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00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: to dwhite Clark, which where I'm from. And the people

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Speaker 1: that you know, most of my family friends and my

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00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: dad who was a die hard forty Niner fan, and

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00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: people I associate with. People my age obviously didn't witness

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00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: that had happened before I was born, but that that

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00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: shaped a region that moment, and most people were not

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00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: Tom Brady at the game, right, most people watched it

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Speaker 1: on television and that was Vin Scully calling that game.

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00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: And the forty Niners, you know, since then forty plus

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00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: years later or you know, are one of the biggest

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00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: brands in the league. But before that, they were a choke.

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00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: I mean, they were not some big time team. And uh,

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00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: that was really the pinnacle moment that the catalyst that

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00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: kind of started at all. And um, he's so anonymous.

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00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: Obviously he's anonymous with the Dodgers. But when you look

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00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: at the guy's career, I didn't know this. I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously I'm a golf guy. The PGA tor tweet. He

1078
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: he was like Jim Nance for I think in the seventies,

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00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: called PGA tour events. That was one of his jobs,

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00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: calling PGA tour events, calling the NFL. He obviously called

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00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: national broadcast games. And for baseball, I think he did

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00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: the Mets, Red Sox. He used to do a lot

1083
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: of those, and and the Dodgers and in the later years.

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00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: One thing is cool about technology that technology has its downfalls,

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00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: but it has a lot of positives. You know, I

1086
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: had MLB package for a long time, and you know,

1087
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: the Dodgers started getting good, especially the latter years. Um,

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00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: it was cool to just watch him, you know. And

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00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, part of baseball, more than the other sports,

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00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: is storytelling. It's the broadcaster plays a big role. And

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00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: I was in the car yesterday and someone involved with

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00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: the Dodgers, and this is pretty crazy, right, Sandy Kofax,

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00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: Tommy Lasorda. You know, now Clayton Kershaw, I wouldn't put

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00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: him on Sandy Kovax level, but I mean Kershaw, I'm

1095
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: sure Jackie Robinson, someone I forget Rick Monday, or you

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00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: know some famous Dodger called Vince Scully. He's like, you

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00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: could make the argument meant he's the greatest Dodger of

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Speaker 1: all time. And it's weird to say. You would never

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Speaker 1: say that now about a broadcaster, but times were different.

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Speaker 1: You know when he for a long period of his

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00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: life right broadcasters, most of us. You know, I never

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Speaker 1: went I went to a couple of Giants games growing up.

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00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: I never went to an NFL game. I think one

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Speaker 1: thing that the media loses touch with is like most

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00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: fans can't afford to go to games. Most fans live vicariously,

1106
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: especially in baseball and basketball, but specifically baseball through their broadcaster,

1107
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, Kruken Kype, Dwayne Keeper, and Mike Krukoh are

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00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: a huge part of the culture in northern California. The

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00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: Giants are you know, our version of the Dodgers, the Yankees,

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00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: the Cubs or whatever. They're huge, even though we've got

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00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: two baseball teams. It's kind of it's even on a

1112
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: bigger scale than Raiders and Niners, where it's like a

1113
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: hundred to five ratio of fans, not even close. And

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Speaker 1: I remember in college I went to calip Allly Mike

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01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: kruk also went to my cal Poly. I got to

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Speaker 1: meet him and it was called Kruko's Corner where I

1117
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: used to work at the cal Poly baseball stadium, and

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Speaker 1: it was just it was a really really big deal.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are big deals. You know, you

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Speaker 1: meet people that that everyone knows these guys and then

1121
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: was the most famous of them all, you know he was,

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Speaker 1: I mean obviously when I was a kid. And depending

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Speaker 1: on how old you are, Harry Carey, I would say,

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Speaker 1: is somewhat on that level. Too different. I'm not saying Harry,

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Speaker 1: you know, he used to booze a little bit, but

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Speaker 1: it might be a little different than Vin. But just

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01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: in terms of fame and its importance to the fan base,

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Speaker 1: it really just doesn't exist in other sports. In football,

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Speaker 1: like your radio guy, like when I worked for the Eagles,

1130
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: mel reye. Greg Papa, who was now the Niners guy

1131
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: but really was the Raiders guy for twenty years, played

1132
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: a big role. And part of it was because Raiders

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01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: games would get blacked out, so the only way for

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01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: a lot of fans to follow the Raider game was

1135
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: to listen to it. And but for the most part,

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01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: in two two you're not gonna meet some fourty year

1137
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: old that like the radio they watched their team on television.

1138
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: But baseball is different because a lot of the radio

1139
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: guys also do the TV and it's kind of intermixed,

1140
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Speaker 1: and um right, I don't have like I never met

1141
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: the guy. I think I remember going to a Giant's

1142
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: Dodger game probably in two thousand and fourteen when he

1143
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: was there. I remember seeing him from afar in the

1144
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: in the media room. But but the outcry in terms

1145
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: not the outcry, but the reaction kind of speaks for itself.

1146
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: And then the other reaction on Bill Russell dying, and

1147
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: I think sometimes we lose sight of this with sports. Obviously,

1148
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,479
Speaker 1: the goal is to be successful, is to make money,

1149
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: is the quote unquote be a star. But the ultimate goal,

1150
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: you know, of team sports and really individual sports too,

1151
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: is to win. Like that is the thing, to win,

1152
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: and if you win, everything else will follow. I say

1153
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: this all the time, like everyone's like, I want to brand.

1154
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: How about this? You win a super Bowl and then

1155
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: you can make any goddamn brand you want. So it

1156
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: happens so much in the NBA, like I'm a brand, Like, Bro,

1157
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: you've never made out the first round of the playoffs.

1158
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: Why does Draymond Green have this massive podcast? Because he's

1159
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: bit you know, because he's the starting power forward in

1160
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: the NBA and he's got a lot of opinions. No,

1161
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: because he's got four rings and he's been to like

1162
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: eight NBA finals. When people view Graymond Green, you hate

1163
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: him or love him. The one thing you can't take

1164
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: away from the dude is one and really his whole

1165
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: freaking life in Michigan State, he was going to Final four's.

1166
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: The guy is associated with winners. He's a winner, and

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01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: Bill Russell is the greatest winner in the history of

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01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: team sports. It's not debatable. And listen to a lot

1169
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: of different podcasts and people telling stories. It's like sometimes

1170
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: in these teams sports, like oh I scored forty, it's

1171
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: like you lost by twenty. H I threw three touchdowns.

1172
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: Your team just got blasted. The goal of all this

1173
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: it's why we root for our teams. If you like golf,

1174
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: for tennis is to win is to win like Djokovic

1175
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,919
Speaker 1: or the Doll Like the Dolls got that cool little

1176
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: rock looking logo. Would that logo be cool if he

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01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: hadn't won all those Grand Slams and one all those

1178
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: tournaments with Tiger Woods be as cool as Tiger Woods?

1179
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if you didn't have fifteen majors and

1180
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: eight plus wins, if he just had seven wins and

1181
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: one major, of course not. We like winners. We like

1182
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: greatness and team sports, like being a good teammate. I

1183
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: don't know kind of matters. D why Tom Brady is

1184
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: held in such high regard. Why watching this Derek Jeter

1185
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: doc you're like, this guy's a great guy. I think

1186
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: they said in the documentary A Rod wanted to be

1187
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: a star, Derek Jeter wanted to win. You are what

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01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: you prioritize and r I p to Bill Russell, I mean,

1189
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: oviously a legendary human being. But I think first and

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01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: foremost a legendary winner. Can you think of a better

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01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: compliment besides like being called a good father or a

1192
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: good husband, but like, professionally, whether you're in business, whether

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01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: you're an athlete, regardless of what you did, it's like,

1194
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: describe that guy and they just said he's a winner.

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01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean, what would you rather be called? Professionally he's

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01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: a winner. I mean you say that like you'd want

1197
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: to meet the guy. And that's to me what Bill

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01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: Russell was. Um uh Weekend podcasts be out at John

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Speaker 1: Middlekoff Instagram firing those d m se the volume