WEBVTT - Herc was on T (feat. Matt Rogers) 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.160 I won't sing at all on this podct no, because 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:08.559 Rose will be doing all this singing for you. Honestly, 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:11.399 I am the Rose. I really hate that you are 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:14.840 so transphobic that you don't want a woman, a trans 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:17.079 woman to sing. Yeah, that's what it's about. It is, 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:19.200 it's it's when it at the end of the day, 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:22.000 it is about you. It is even if you're doing 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:24.439 a bit, that is what it's about for me. So 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:26.840 let's just come in here and make it very thank 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:36.040 you for thank you for believing women. I wonder Rose, listen, 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:40.680 this is our multiverse of madness, an amazing crossover event. 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:43.800 We're in. Matt Rodgers from the Lost Culture Ista podcast 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:49.640 graces you from the the l CPU, the l c 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.279 PU in all of its Cafe Boostello Lori is going 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:57.120 to be coming on too, like a version to discuss well, 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:00.840 theme parks roller coasters. I was going to say they're 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:04.600 one of the universal childhood experiences, but I'm sure not 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:08.520 everyone has that experience, but they are a universal childhood 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.880 experience and that um I went to Universal Studios as 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.039 a child. Yeah, And when it comes to theme parks, 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:18.319 Matt is a historian, an expert. He's the kant a 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.760 philosopher of theme parks and roller coaster He's basically the 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:26.039 Michel Fucot of roller coasters, and and there's no one 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:30.480 who has a more prescient knowledge and foresight on the 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.319 state of theme parks in this not just this country, 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:37.920 but in the world. Yeah, Matt Rogers is Walt Disney reincarnatives. 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:40.360 That's not what I was saying. Being Walt Disney and 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:42.360 being michef are very different things. And I think you've 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.480 kind of mixed the metaphor. Now that's fine. That's what 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:47.760 I do because this is like a virgin the show 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:51.160 where we give yesterday's pop culture today's takes. I'm ros 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:55.400 damn you and I'm fran Toronto. We have Matt Rogers today, who, 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.320 as we said, one of the hosts of Lost Culture Stas. 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:00.800 He's also on the New Showtimes Aries. I love that 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.920 for you, and I love that for him, and love 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.280 this for us. And the show is amazing. If you 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:10.440 haven't already seen it, it's on Showtime, starring Jennifer Lewis, 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:14.720 Molly Shannon, Vanessa Bayer, all of the girls. It's it's wonderful. 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:21.239 Y'all should catch it. I saw something sitting on the 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:26.120 toilet right after we recorded last week that I was like, damn, 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:29.160 like I I wish we had had time to talk 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:32.679 about this in the slush piles of like our internet timelines. 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.920 Did you see this kind of ally anthem that Kendrick 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:40.200 Lamar put out recently, No Okay so Um? In his 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:43.960 most recent album, he basically wrote a song dedicated to 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:50.239 his trans uncles that can only be described as maclemorean, like, 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:52.720 can you unpack the macailmore in part of it? Because 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:56.080 I think I know that Macaulmore did something like gay, 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:59.160 but I don't really know the specifics, and maybe some 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:02.560 of our listeners as well. Of course, I mean I 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:05.880 I call it mackailmore in because it's very like Allah, 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:09.840 same love parentheses she keeps Me Warm by Macklemore, Which 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:13.160 was that Like I really blocked that and I really 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:16.200 resent you for making me release it from the depths 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:20.520 of my subconscious Yeah, I mean I don't really want 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.639 to plant that in your consciousness. That's not what I 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:26.640 wanted to have that, But let me try, you know, 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:30.040 non convenually we all have to remember that that song 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:35.120 one like so many awards, and the first verse in 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.920 this song the first bar. That's a very generous term 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:41.800 for it. I would say, um is, when I was 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:43.920 in the third grade, I thought that I was gay 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:47.800 because I could draw, which is like I think we 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:51.040 forget about this moment in history. But like it's particularly 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:55.120 ironic because Macklemore fourteen, even though that song feels like 0:03:55.200 --> 0:04:00.320 so so egregiously dated. Now, like that song one the 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:05.880 fucking Grammy and he famously won, yes, and he famously 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.640 won over Kendrick. And that was the year that he 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:12.400 texted Kendrick and screenshine and posted Instagram. It was like, hey, man, 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.640 like just so you know, like you deserve this award, 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:17.880 which like white music artists like as a whole needs 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:23.600 to stop doing like Billy did this to Megan, Like 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:29.080 everybody just needs to stop. Just need to stop. No 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:32.560 one needs to be awarded for anything. No more awards. 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:36.000 But this most recent album of Kendrick's, which I have 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:39.680 yet some muscle through because it's like so long, just 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:43.280 f y. I I will not be listening, you know, 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:45.880 I'm not. I'm not ill. I'll be finishing it, but 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.719 I don't need to recap at all. Um this song 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:52.520 that he wrote about his trans uncles is called aunties, 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:58.000 and in this song he routinely missed genders his uncle's 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:02.320 like throughout the entire song and also dead names. Caitlyn 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:06.520 Jenner says, and he also says the word faggot like 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:10.200 seventeen times. I'm so happy we're talking about this on 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:14.200 our queer pod, Like everybody knows that. Like the only 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.120 person who can say faggot in the course of a 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:21.240 song is Jewel and Jewel. What song was that? I 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:24.760 can't remember where She's like, pieces of You, it's you 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:31.160 say he was a faggot, say he was a Fagget's 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:37.279 socking you because she says it's so many times, very 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:40.960 slow and she can't she can't say it. She did, 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:44.760 but you can't. Long story short. People are saying, like 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.160 cancel Kendrick or whatever, but like I just have to 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:49.160 say it, like this is just plain foolish, Like this 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:55.400 is just stupid. And one he has a pulitzer and two, yes, 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:59.080 Kendrick Lamar has a pulitzer. And to the irony of 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:03.599 Kendrick basically writing a Macklemore song after being so publicly 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.880 kind of subjugated by Macklemore, like made a mockri of 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.880 by Macklemore. I just think the irony is too sick. Anyways, 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.599 that's my complaint on I love to know my love 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:15.120 to know that my identity was denigrated in a piece 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:19.680 of media. I won't be consuming Yeah, and like and like, 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.200 I you know, I I don't know Kendrick's relationship to 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.400 his uncle's, Like you know, the nuances of having trans family. 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:28.560 It's like sometimes you don't care about pronouns or like whatever, 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:30.320 but it's just like you're doing this on a huge 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.680 platform with you that you're doing it for an audience, 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:35.719 and like they don't understand those nuances, Like you should 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:39.599 just you should just not Yeah, anyways, Roase, have ever 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.800 told you about, like how much I love the show 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:46.880 Legendary A couple of times? You've watched a few episodes 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:50.599 I watched. I watched like two episodes of the first 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:53.440 I will say, any of the virgins out there, if 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.799 you watch the first two episodes of the second season, 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.920 you'll be hooked into what is one of the great 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:03.279 seasons of reality TV I've ever seen. But season three 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.640 is back. The first three episodes I think dropped and 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:10.760 it's so good still it remains like one of my 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:14.960 most favorite shows I'll ever watch. Um, I think from 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:20.200 the judging to the opening credits, to like the way 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.240 the stories of all these houses is built, to like 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:27.240 the shade, to like the actual dances, and like production 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.440 value that goes into all these numbers. It's like, over 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.480 and over again, so good. How has it gotten in 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:39.280 terms of the corporatization of it? Because Charlene did fire 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:42.320 off a tweet that I thought was funny, which was legendary. 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:47.000 Season three is like House of Lais Chips. Is that 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.960 kind of the vibe? I will say. She may be 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:54.600 referring to the pool of competitors, which maybe is not 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:59.480 as filled with a listers as the second season, which 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:01.880 had us about Me in the Hospitalenciaga and a lot 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:05.240 of other really crucial players. This most recent season also 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.080 has a Ja from drag Race in the House of 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:11.040 Love Asia, which is really interesting to see her in 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:14.560 the context of another reality show wherein she's it's never 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:18.080 acknowledged that she was on drag Race. UM. I will 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:21.240 say the show actually has proven itself to be an 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:24.720 amazing piece of reality TV that is backed and helmed 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:28.360 by Ballroom. UM. Obviously, there are nuances and a lot 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.840 of things that Ballroom community is not happy with in 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:35.839 terms of exploitation, or maybe how certain categories are described, 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:37.920 or you know, everything gets lost in translation when it 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.000 goes to reality TV. But the long story short is like, 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.720 there are tons of people in Ballroom who are writing 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.800 and producing and across all the different elements of the 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.960 show to authenticate it as much as they can, and 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:54.640 I personally learn a lot from it. She is, and 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:58.560 I'm not gonna lie, amazing. She She She's She's a 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:01.320 great judge. She's a great judge. You know what I 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.920 just found out recently that I didn't know is that 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.920 she is going to be the villain in She Hulk. 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:12.280 That's such a perfect role for her. Oh my god, 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.080 I'm so excited. I mean, I'm not a Jamila stand 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:18.040 but I regardless of all the cultural baggage that one 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:20.800 person might hold, I you know, still want to honor 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.439 the fact that she's a good judge. UM. I mean, honestly. 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:26.640 To give an example, like in the most recent episode, 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:29.600 they did a challenge where every team had to showcase 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:34.200 a three sixty dip, which is an extremely difficult move 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.280 to do, UM, and they had to do it in 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:41.160 front of le Yomi who invented the three sixty. Um, 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:44.800 goes live on Instagram every thirty seconds, goes live on 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.760 Instagram every thirty seconds. We love you girl. Um, but 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:51.280 all of those lives. Um. Yeah, but she she's live 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.720 on Instagram right now, right now doing three sixties. UM. 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:58.559 Probably she's so amazing. Um. But yeah, she's like god 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:02.439 tier celebrity to And honestly, you could see the nerves 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:04.920 and everybody trying to perform this three sixty. But to 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.240 be totally honest, it was interesting to see that as 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:10.200 a challenge because a three sixty is not something that 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.880 like every team needs to have in their arsenal. It's 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:17.200 like an extremely difficult move to do. It's basically like asking, 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:19.760 you know, a bunch of ice skating teams to do 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.760 a triple axel in front of like Marinagatsu. Like it's 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:27.079 just not a move that everyone can physically do. Anyways, 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.080 I definitely want to talk more about the show, like 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.480 in future episodes like as it goes on, but I 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.040 must like cast my picks for the versions that like 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.000 I'm all in for the House of Yogi Yamamoto, but 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.320 like love the House of Juicy Guitur and the House 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:41.960 of Revlon as well. If any virgins are listening, I 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.320 definitely want to know who your picks are because this 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.400 is my favorite show. Um also LAMI should have an 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:49.880 Emmy and maybe DeShawn too, But I think they would 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:54.560 be competing against Rue Paul because it's that good luck 0:10:54.600 --> 0:11:00.440 with that uh speak of the devil. We want the 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:04.960 first two episodes of All Stars All Winners season together 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:09.840 on Thursday, and you know, I was not sure how 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:13.720 this whole Winners thing was going to play out, but 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.920 it's very good TV. You know. I think it's very 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.600 smart to have the conceit of the season b that 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.800 no one goes home because I think, like with bringing 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:26.560 a winner back, if you've won that show, you do 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:30.120 not want to come back and embarrass yourself or tarnish 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:33.680 your legacy. So it does feel like the only circumstances 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:37.920 in which those girls would have come back to the show, 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:41.800 like knowing that probably all of the critique was going 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:45.760 to like lean positive if it happened at all, and 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.080 that they would be able to stick around for the 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.640 entirety of the season. But I think the big thing 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:55.200 that we have to talk about is snatch game, obviously, 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:57.360 and I feel like Jinks in terms of what you're 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:00.679 talking about before, Like Jinks specifically is one of those 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.760 legends that was like, I would never go back to 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.679 drag Race like ever, ever, and only in this circumstance 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:10.319 that's very friendly and very like it's got a very 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:15.400 celebratory summer camp reunion kind of vibe, like and they're 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:18.000 also there's a lot of money that they can win. 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:25.160 But Jinks like one snatch game forever, forever, forever, hwer 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:28.800 Judy Garland was I mean and clearly. And when I 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.959 say like they're in on it, it's like she would 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:35.480 not have been able to do that kind of extended 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.880 snatch game performance if the Snatch game was not kind 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:44.760 of set up for it to really be about her. Interesting. Interesting. 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.240 I love then. I love that the theories it's not 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.400 I mean, not like a conspiracy theory. I just mean 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:51.960 like she knew. I'm sure there was some kind of 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.640 production meeting where they were like they knew what she 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.000 was going to do ahead of time. Yeah, of course 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:00.600 they all have to kind of submit their their characters 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.480 ahead I and I think they can place bets on 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.560 who's gonna win. Like I remember turning to you rose 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.960 before the snatch game started, like right before. I remember 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.920 turning to you and I said, no one has ever 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.079 done Judy, which is remarkable, and you were like yeah, 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:21.080 and I was like, Jinx is the person could do it. 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.960 She's the only one that could do it. And by 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:28.800 like maybe no, no, shut up. I think only by 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:33.040 like a few points did she maybe beat out Alaska 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.800 as May West, which is my favorite snatch game of 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:39.320 all time. But like what I'm like trying not to 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:43.480 get emotional, what Jinx did was transcendent and her not 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:45.720 just like in her jokes and her like you know, 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:49.560 comedic timing and the nuances of the way she would 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.199 drop her chin on her hands like this, or like 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.360 the way she would kind of fiddle with like a 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.800 piece of paper like between her fingers, the way Judy 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:59.880 was like everything she did was so Judy, but the 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:05.440 way she sang was better. She sounded like Judy exactly. 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:09.520 She sounded better than Rene's Alwegger in Judy, like I 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:15.600 was it just elevated like this kind of throwaway Judy 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:20.200 is a drug addict character vibe of snatch games. Like 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.400 none of those other girls should have been on stage 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.840 with her, like Jinks should if she does not do 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:29.080 like a Judy one woman show after all Stars, she 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.360 was missing out on making a lot of money because 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.520 she could do it, Like she could do a one 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:38.680 woman show as Judy, and I would I wouldn't pay 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:40.600 to see it, but I would go see it. I 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:42.920 I would pay to see it. Um, But like I 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:44.480 I will say, I thought there were a lot of 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.600 other really good snatch games up there. I think the 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.600 only people that really boofed it were Shay and ev 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:53.720 I think, um, but he was bad, and like it's 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:58.240 it's it's just telling that that for how bad people 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.800 like Shay and Evie were, that they didn't really get 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:05.960 negative critiques. It's telling about the parameters of this season 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.680 because on a normal season they would have got torn 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.480 up to shreds for those performances. Yeah, I think the 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:15.160 judging on this specific season is kind of interesting and 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.880 also on a light touch for sure. It's a light 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.960 touch for sure. I also, I mean we are seeing 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:25.440 some paramount plus budget for those guest judges with Naomi 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:31.440 Campbell and Cameron Diaz, Like why haven't we people please 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:34.800 come back to acting? I want I want the return. No, 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:37.920 she looks happy she looks happy selling wine and being 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:41.240 not an actress. I'm I'm happy for her, even if 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:43.680 I myself I'm not happy that she's gone. Have you 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:47.440 ever tried her wine? No? Have you No? I tried 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.680 to veer away from all celebrity wines like that. The 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:53.240 Coppola wines are so disgusting to me. Well, I hate 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:57.640 wine famously. You famously hate wine, Um, Cameron Diaz, if 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.200 you did come on our show, we would gladly about 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.760 your wine. I don't even know what it's called. Amazing, 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:06.880 I'm sure, I'm sure this, Um. I did listen to 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:09.120 the new Harry Styles album because I know we talked 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:13.680 about before that we both liked as it was kind 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:17.680 of surprisingly a lot album. To me, it's very like 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:21.040 adult contemporary elevator music. I do mean that as a compliment. 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:26.440 It clearly was made to be TikTok sounds. I like 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:30.520 the sushi song. I like cinema. I don't know if 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.760 this is like a weird comparison to make, but it 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:37.680 does remind me of Florence and the Machines album How Big, Hublu, 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:41.920 How Beautiful Like. I think it's really well produced. My 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.440 sisters are huge, hairy style stands and they really don't 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:48.080 like it because I think it's very different than his 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:51.480 last album, but like you know, it's kind of boring, 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.960 but like it's very listenable. In comparison to other Harry albums, 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:57.600 I'm much more connected to the music. I think when 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:00.200 he emerged on the scene, I didn't really feel acted 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.280 to his music as much as just like his fashion, 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:06.080 which we disagree on, and like his kind of persona 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:09.280 as a celebrity. I really adore you think. I don't 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:12.080 think no, no, no. I would never use the word serve, 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:16.440 I would never use the words certain, but I would 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:20.040 say that Harry Styles frequently wears things that I too 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.159 would love to wear, and I think that I'm not 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.600 I don't disagree with that. What I'm saying is like 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.959 his style is just someone is taking a Gucci runway 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:29.840 look and putting it on him and there's not a 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:34.560 lot of thought there. I agree, but I don't want to. 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.320 I would never die on a hill defending Harry like 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:39.520 that's not where I am. But I will say that this. 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:41.439 I do know that you have bought an item of 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:44.600 clothing before because Harry Styles wore it. Though Mama, I've 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:47.879 bought three items of clothing because Harry Styles wore it 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.879 three count it um. I will also say this album 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.679 I think I could only describe as like adorable, Like 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:57.760 I love the first three songs. I love that the 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:00.520 song music for a Sushi Restaurant wasn't fired by the 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.360 fact that he heard another one of his songs while 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:06.600 he was eating sushi at a sushi restaurant, and like 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.480 the song is kind of like poking fun at himself 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:14.679 almost for being easy listening. It's giving adult contemporary the 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:19.600 serious x M channel mosaic. It's very that vibe. Closing 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:25.560 the loop on one more thing you rose you were, 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:31.719 in fact wrong about me liking The Northman. I'm so sorry. 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:36.400 I went into this movie with like the lowest possible 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:45.400 expectations and I loved this movie. That's great. I'm very surprised, 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:49.080 but I'm glad you loved it. I think you I 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.199 think you famously said if you don't, if you're not 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.800 gonna like conversations with friends, you're not gonna like The 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:58.000 North mid Um, which, like you know, very interesting comparison 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:01.600 for me. I can't remember what your train of thought 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:04.000 was there. So sorry to take you out of context. 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:06.360 But you know, I think that you were mostly thinking 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:08.640 about my reaction to The Green Knight, which I think 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.360 is a pretty good comp for The Northman. The difference 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:14.200 is that the Green Knight was not interested in having 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:17.000 a plot. It was interested in like painting a picture, 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:21.200 where the Northman I think was plot plot, plot, plot plot. 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:25.679 And even though you know the story is very simple, 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:29.000 you know, like it it follows. Yeah, but like I 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:31.720 felt like it was still felt so fresh, and I 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:35.560 was shook also that there aren't really that many movies 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:40.560 out there that are telling Viking Norse mythology stories, Like 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:46.600 Norse mythology is yeah, you know that's through a Marvel 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:51.240 superhero lens. Yeah, but like all around just like completely dope, 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:54.679 like Alexander scars Guard is like a fucking hulk of 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:57.200 a man like that. That was like so much. Body 0:19:57.240 --> 0:19:59.840 Mass is like amazing to watch the entire time. And 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.680 didn't tell me that the movie ends in a fight 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:05.240 to the death in like a pool of lava. In 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:09.199 the news, it's giving It's giving mountain doom. Literally nude, 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:13.800 they were naked, Like what was that? You hate spoilers? 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:15.800 Why would I have told you? Yeah? Okay, yeah, I 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.359 appreciate that, and sorry to the virgins whom I just 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:38.200 spoiled it too. I don't know why or how or 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:42.400 when this was decided, but you are something of an 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:45.800 expert on theme parks for sure. I used to when 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:48.000 I was little. I used to draw the map of 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:51.760 Disneyland from memory were you would for my own? Can 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:56.160 you still draw it from both Disneyland and Disney World? Yeah? 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:59.199 That the the layout of Magic Kingdom I would know 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:02.040 by heart, and Epcot and Hollywood Studios and I'm looking 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:03.480 at them one. When I was little, in bored, I 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:06.879 would draw the maps. There is something really queer about 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:10.119 like when did you come out? I almost had eleven, 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:13.000 which is a lot of bold face light nine. I 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:14.840 feel like drawing maps as a kid, like or like 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:18.040 roller coaster tycoon type ship, like like invent. I used 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.919 to like design malls, you know, like that was like 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:22.600 a thing. I feel like, you know, every kid kind 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:24.640 of wants to be an architect until they figure out 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.200 that math is involved, and then I'm like, at least 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:29.359 for me, I was like, no, thanks. I didn't design malls, 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:31.040 but I went to them a lot, and I still 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:35.520 could find my way around my home mall fully blindfolded. 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:38.040 Is that how you are with Disney? Yeah, oh no, 0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:41.600 for sure. Like when I go to any theme park, really, 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:43.159 I sort of take it upon myself to be like 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:45.119 the leader of the trip, and I will know what 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:50.399 everything is oftentimes, if not like intuitively, like oftentimes like 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:52.000 sense memory will kick in and I'll be like, this 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:53.720 is where we must go and I used to What 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:57.360 really bothers me is when they do refurbishments and renovations 0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:01.159 without sort of like letting letting, you know, letting the 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:03.000 girls know, because I'll be like, here's a short cut 0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:04.639 turn around, and all of a sudden they'll be just 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:07.479 a wall and I want to ride a shutdown forget it? 0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:09.800 Are you? Are you on a schedule? Is it TikTok? 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:14.320 When you're sore? An itinerary moment? I like to know 0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:17.320 what's the next thing we're doing. But I don't care 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:20.080 beyond that. Also because most of the time, most of 0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:22.040 the time when I go to theme park, now I'm 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:27.080 how do I say this extraordinarily fucked up? Like I'll 0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:30.560 go on like half a tab, I'll the theme park 0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:32.880 and like, really fuck it up? I mean, who does 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:36.840 like theme park sober like children. I think outside of that, 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:39.640 like who you know, I mean, yeah, you can't. I 0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:41.960 think kids. I don't even like to go when there's 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:44.320 kids around, like I go on the weekday during the day. 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:47.399 That's that's very smart. That's the last theme park we 0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:51.000 went to was we went to Universal during the day 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:55.240 on a weekday and very early. Um. I was very 0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:59.760 I felt very um slighted and maligned and like the 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:01.760 odd were started against me because Fran didn't want to 0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:03.960 get there as early as I did. Yes, I remember 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:07.360 when you when you all did this, like you were like, yeah, 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:08.960 you talked about last coul and you were like, we 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:11.520