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Speaker 1: this is our multiverse of madness, an amazing crossover event.

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Speaker 1: We're in. Matt Rodgers from the Lost Culture Ista podcast

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Speaker 1: Um it's thank you for saying that, because I'm from Florida,

426
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Speaker 1: and I really you know, and so you sort of understand. Intrinsically,

427
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: the Disney World is sort of hell yes on Earth,

428
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: which for reasons I will get into and you'll agree with,

429
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: I'm certain. But the thing about Universal Studios Florida and

430
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: Islands of Adventure is there right next to each other,

431
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: and they're also connected via the I'm so sorry Hogwarts

432
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: express um and so I know, I know, I know,

433
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 1: but we'll get into it. We're gonna get into well, yes,

434
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: of course she's something we must tackle today if we're

435
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Speaker 1: going to talk about this. Because of the revolution that

436
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: happened when HP came to theme parks, I mean, the

437
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: girls are clamoring to catch up. So the reason I

438
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: like Universal Studios and Islands of Venture is there right

439
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: there next to each other, and there's the city walk

440
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: area where you can eat and hang out. And also

441
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: they have the rides that are more like that are

442
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: less for babies, so you actually can go get a

443
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: hashtag thrill and you really could do it all in

444
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: like one or two days, whereas Disney World is sort

445
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: of um involved, it's involved, it takes months and months

446
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: of planning. I actually get more and more upset every

447
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: time every single time I go, because it's like so

448
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,719
Speaker 1: overwhelming in terms of just the endeavor that it is

449
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: to get from one park to another. It's like a

450
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: forty five minute situation, really crowded. Often it gets more

451
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: and more expensive all the time. I mean, and Universal

452
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: you can truly do in well the one here you

453
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,719
Speaker 1: can do the whole thing in like six hours literally,

454
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 1: But do you remember the gag Because, as I said,

455
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: I grew up in Florida, So I remember when Islands

456
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: of Adventure opened and it was like a paradigm shift.

457
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: Was the Islands of Adventures? Like, so it's the big

458
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 1: ride at the time when it opened. Was the Hulk Coaster?

459
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: M dueling dragons, epic, amazing rest, power and power. Does

460
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: the Hulk roller coaster still exists? Yes, and it is.

461
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite rollers. So basically, like you

462
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: are you a coaster person? I so I actually am

463
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: a bit of aversion to the to the theme parks

464
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: in general. Like I've been to Disneyland twice as a kid,

465
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: been to Six Flags maybe once, and then we went

466
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,959
Speaker 1: to Universal for the first time last year. So then

467
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: you did the Mummy roller coaster, yes, which is the

468
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: best roller coaster experience, and you had a fabulous have

469
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Speaker 1: a fabulous But I think I think the Friend could

470
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: do Hulk. Have you been have you been to do

471
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: the Velocity coaster yet? No? Absolutely amazing, Like I think

472
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: the best theme park ride that exists currently. What do

473
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 1: you look for? What are your criteria in a theme

474
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: park ride? What you want thrills, you want chills, you

475
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: want thrills and chills. So definitely thrills and chills. But

476
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: for me, what's most important is immersion. What's what's most

477
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: important for me, especially like if you're going to go

478
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 1: to Disney or Universal, I want to step in and

479
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, every inch of this place is covered

480
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: in detail, Like I love to feel like when I'm

481
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: when I've chewed my whole edible and my twenty milligrams hit,

482
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: I want to feel like I'm in it. I love.

483
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: That's why I love avatar Land is because they have

484
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: set the scene. We'll put respect on Disney's name. For

485
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: the World of Pandora, I have to tell you wouldn't

486
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: exist without world. Okay. So given the back story on

487
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: this podcast before, maybe or maybe I just explained it

488
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: to you. So originally Harry Potter World was supposed to

489
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: be at Disney, but J. K. Rowling wanted a train

490
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: to transport people in and Disney said absolutely not. So

491
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: Universal was obviously like, yes, we'll give you a train,

492
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: We'll give you anything. Trans women are men. She has

493
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: literally like an indignant, like adult child. She's like, I

494
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 1: want to she wanted a full creative control, and they

495
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: were not willing and which Disney was not willing to

496
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: do that because they have the whole imagineering structure. And

497
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: then when Disney started to lose a bunch of attendees

498
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: and money to Universal, they said, we need a hot

499
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: property that is a similar kind of immersive world. And

500
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: they said, what about the highest grossing movie ever made

501
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: which no one remembers, which, by the way, the Way

502
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: of Water. I can't. I'm so excited to see this trailer.

503
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: I thought, I will say this when they sat when

504
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: they announced that they were going to bring Avatar to

505
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: the parks, that was like their answer to Harry Potter.

506
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm getting the sense that you were like, this is

507
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: an iconic flop. And I felt the same way too,

508
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: because I was like, Harry Potter is an entire world,

509
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that Avatar is not an entire world,

510
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: but Harry Potter is a proven eight film like extensive

511
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: international book series. Not to say that Avatar is international,

512
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: but you'd think like you'd want to at least release

513
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: a couple more of those movies. You want something with

514
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: more source material. I was proven wrong when I went, oh,

515
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: I cried on flight of the whatever stream. Really the

516
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: smell of like the orange that you get as you're

517
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: flying over the trees is it is life changing. That's

518
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: a lot for something that's essentially you know, furn gully,

519
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: but with like technological imperialists and the way that you're

520
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,959
Speaker 1: you're like writing the thing and you can feel it

521
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: breathing between your legs. It's giving you. It's given. It's

522
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: it's basically it's moving beyond the five senses to also

523
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: a sixth sense, which is like sort of a horny

524
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: sexual like thing. It's like it's like it's like intimate.

525
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: The sixth sense is horny. It's a beast breathing between

526
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,479
Speaker 1: your legs. And that's simple the six senses culture. The

527
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: sixth sense is wrong. Podcast talk about if we're talking

528
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: about immersion, can we talk about the Universal Studios Tour. Oh?

529
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: That was it's just called the the Studio Tour. That

530
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: was our favorite part of university phenomenal. I like for

531
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: the virgins, like it is like a again all six senses,

532
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: Like it is like you know, for d there's like

533
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: smells and like sprays and like that. I think that

534
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: like the way they I just had never been on

535
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: a ride like that before, where like everything around you

536
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: is like three dimensionally. To go to Orlando, you must

537
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: take friends. Let me tell you, we're gonna go visit

538
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: my family and then we're gonna and then we're gonna

539
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: steal someone's car and go to Orlando. I have to

540
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: and do four days. There is this and we have

541
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: to go dead of winter January at Disney Universal. Best

542
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: time to go, can tell you. I think it's actually October,

543
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: but okay, oh really okay, well Halloween Halloween nights also,

544
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: But as a Floridian, you know that was always when

545
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: we went because it was like, I think it was dead.

546
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: There was no tourism. Um. I do love going in

547
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: October and I love going during the holidays. I have

548
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: trade in Orlando. I have like an absolutely mass of

549
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: man that talks about like getting me pregnant. Everyone. I

550
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: feel like it would be everyone. Well, there's also it's

551
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: that people live in Orlando. There's a bunch of colleges there,

552
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: and there's a huge international airport, so there's always trade.

553
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: And also the thing is like people that work at Disney,

554
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: and there's actually not a straight person that works at

555
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: Universal or Disney No, it's entirely queers, and so they're

556
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: so horny because they're inner child. Yeah, they have to

557
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: be sort of like inner child all day and then

558
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: when they when when the lights go down at night, honey,

559
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: there's still you know, adult queers. Yeah, but they're still

560
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: using their baby voice. No, no, no, not not when

561
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: you open grinder in Orlando, it's treasure. Have you ever

562
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: gotten sucked off at Disney? I've never hooked have you

563
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: hooked up on any side with Okay, my my ex

564
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: boyfriend Jared and I went, and my ex ex boyfriend

565
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: Henry and I went, and I think I did I

566
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: ever hooked up there because I felt wrong. It's no,

567
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: not even that we're so tired, like full of meat

568
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. It's not a horny thing.

569
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: It's it's like you're very shausted and your feet are

570
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: killing you. You ate trash like you're not trying to pork.

571
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to gay Days? No with the

572
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: matching shirts. No, I don't really do the matching shirts.

573
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: And I don't dress up in March. I don't do that. No, no, no,

574
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: you don't do Earbridge too far. It's not that I'm

575
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: opposed to doing ears, and maybe when I go again

576
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: in several weeks, like I will do the ear. Would

577
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: you do like a Wanda Crown ear? I would definitely

578
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: do a w I wand ahead and I heard by

579
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: the way California Adventure now has I've seen Picnic and

580
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: she kind of does the hand There's there's no special effects,

581
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: it's just hands. She doesn't handwork. Kids are gonna be like,

582
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: where's your or queen. It's like Image and Heap making

583
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: making beats well, Image and Heap is playing her in

584
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: the park. Imagine he's actually booked the gig and very

585
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: circular because imagine he did the music for the Harry

586
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: Potter play. So it all comes back to University, which

587
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: I almost saw when I was in New York. But

588
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: that's actually a bridge I won't cross with j K.

589
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: I I won't support her directly, like I won't support

590
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: something that she wrote. Okay, so this leads better than us.

591
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: This leads us to a fun um theme park tidbit,

592
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: which is that before j K. Rowling was out as

593
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: a turf, I think before I knew what a turf was.

594
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: When the Harry Potter theme parks had just opened, I

595
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: was kicked out of Universal for shoplifting. What did you

596
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: try to take? I tried to steal a wand because

597
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: I was I was a really good mischief manage, well,

598
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: mischief not manage, because they got Miguel um and that

599
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: is why I transitioned so that I could go back.

600
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: So did the errors come out of nowhere and arrest you?

601
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: And did Harry Potter as a cop escort you out

602
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: of the theme park? Like what was the scenario? Yeah,

603
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: they slapped some manacles on me. You were enchanted. They

604
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: made one of those posters of my face I wanted

605
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: and wizard would you like to connect Wizard? Yeah, they

606
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: slapped the butter beer out of my hand. Oh my gosh.

607
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: So now you may return and you have returned. I

608
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: have returned to many times and their facial recognition software

609
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: can't get me because you know what, estrogen redeposits a

610
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: lot of the fat in your face. Okay, so listen,

611
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: did this happen in Orlando or Hollywood Orlando? Because this

612
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: was like, this was like two thousand nine. Is it

613
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: like a lifetime band or is it just like that

614
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: they thought it was a lifetime band? But jokes on

615
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: them because I have a different name. Try it. Try Okay.

616
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: On the Disney of it all, did you have like

617
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: growing up, did you have like favorite Disney characters that

618
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: you wanted to take pictures with you? It's not about

619
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: characters for me, and I have never you didn't have

620
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: an autograph of you have to stop you because I

621
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: did have an autograph book. But even then I knew

622
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: it was a waste of time. I'm like, I want

623
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: to get online for the rides. I want to I

624
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: want to experience attractions. Okay, we gotta go, we gotta go,

625
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: and that that is Whenever I sort of am at

626
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 1: any theme park now and I feel myself my shoulders

627
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: starting to rise because I feel like we're not making

628
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: good time. I just sort of tried to tell myself, like,

629
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: it's okay, you're an adult, you've done it all before,

630
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: you can do it again later. It's okay, don't just relax.

631
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: But but it is like there's something about it where

632
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, the park has a closing

633
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: time and you gotta keep going. Yeah, and all theme

634
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: parks are really an assault on the senses, And you

635
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: became immediately overwhelmed with an assaults on the body. It

636
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: is it is like going to war being at a

637
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: theme park. Yeah, pretty much. It is a crusade from beginning.

638
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: But I just want to ask you, though, what was

639
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: your favorite thing when you went to you so the

640
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: Mommy was your favorite ride? The Mommy was my favorite

641
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 1: ride at Universal for sure. I think that the studio

642
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: tour was definitely a standout. Well, that's like an experience

643
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: one must have. Yeah, immerses, what did you think of

644
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: Jurassic World. Jurassic World was fine. I feel like, I mean,

645
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what did you think. I thought it

646
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,479
Speaker 1: was fun. I kind of like classic Jurassic Park more

647
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: that is because it's the ride of my childhood. I

648
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: feel similarly about the Jaws ride. Thank you, and I

649
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: really I think that actually this is something so okay,

650
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: there's some background on me is um. When I was little,

651
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: all I wanted to do and become was the one

652
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: of the skippers on the Jaws attraction. Like I'm actually

653
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm currently to this day off

654
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: book on it, but I was for a time off

655
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: book on it, and I actually did a show at

656
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: You See Beginning or called You Will Get Wet, which

657
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: was a half hour spank they called it, which was

658
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: like a show that you tried to get running at

659
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: the theater. And in it, I played a character that's

660
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: dream was to do supposed to be on the Jaws boat.

661
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: And I actually did the Jaws attraction in the theater,

662
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: and Bowen Yang played the shark. Yeah, there's a video

663
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: of it. You can watch it. It's called you Will

664
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: Get Wet. There's video of the whole show. How did

665
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,479
Speaker 1: both shark? Was it like a cost Well, he played

666
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: it fabulous and he was very scary and he really

667
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: popped out. And my friend Dave Mazzoni played fire and

668
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: so he was sort of dancing fire and I was

669
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 1: the skipper and I would take people from the audience

670
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: and put them on a boat and there was water

671
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: effects and fire effects and sound effects, and I used

672
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: darkness and flashlights to make the boat house. So this

673
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: was a full thing that I did because it was

674
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: so real to me when I was a kid, like

675
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: only wanting to do that. And so one of the

676
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: big mistakes I think that that theme park chain has

677
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: made is in destroying their attractions that sort of actually

678
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 1: commemorate old classic movies. Your Jaws, Your back to the future,

679
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: which also hurts um and a terminator to I mean

680
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: getting a place with born identity, which is sort of

681
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: a slap in the face. Um. But all these things

682
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: are now gone, And so whenever I go to what

683
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: is an extended Harry Potter section, because now the grin

684
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: goots Bank and all that is where it's so funny.

685
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: They need one at Universal here, they really do, and

686
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll figure it out, but it hurts to

687
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: know that I'm in that area where Jaws was because

688
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: it's so formative for me. And I also think if

689
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: you're going to be Universal and not have something themed

690
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: to Jaws, and it can't be that whack thing they

691
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: do on the studio tour, which is still kind of fun,

692
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: but comparison to your Jaws experience, in comparison to a

693
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: full five minute experience where you're on the boat and

694
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: Jaws is attacking the boat, I mean, this is just

695
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: something like if you didn't experience it as a child,

696
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: or like until it was closed, like really sad for you.

697
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,959
Speaker 1: But here you are holding them accountable. And if you could,

698
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: if you could revive the Jaws ride and work on it,

699
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: would you give up everything you have in your career currently, Um,

700
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 1: everything but the money. Okay, so we make the same

701
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: salary working on the Jaws. What I want to do

702
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: is I want to figure it out on the same

703
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: level of fame. Yeah, yeah, same level of fame. And

704
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm okay, you feel like you have fan accounts like

705
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: best for ever. If I could continue to live my

706
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: life style now and no, it wouldn't get better or worse,

707
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: and I would have to do the Jaws ride for

708
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: rest of my life. I think I could be happy

709
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: doing that. I think you could too, and I would

710
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: love to be on that boat. I think I would

711
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: give you a real thrill. And something I didn't realize

712
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: is that like I always would go like, especially when

713
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: I was younger, and I was like, these people aren't

714
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: giving it any energy, Like I don't believe at all

715
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: that they they're not. I would always think I could

716
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: do a better job than them, And then you realize,

717
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: like they do it fifty times in a row, like

718
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: they have to be speaking at this volume, they can't

719
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: be actually screaming. I'm surprised you never pushed someone off

720
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: the boat and took the mic. I'm surprised too, because

721
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: there was no seatbelts on that. Speaking of movie rides,

722
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: one of my favorite rides at MGM Studios was in

723
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: the Chinese Theater where you great great movie ride like

724
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: the part with with an Alien where the alien comes

725
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: out of the ceiling of different was an iconic Sigourney

726
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: Weaver animatronic if you go through all these different movies MGM.

727
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: So I'm interested to know what your favorite area of

728
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: Disney is because MGM Studios was definitely my favorite growing up.

729
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: The Tower of Terror is it to? I believe that

730
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: the Tower of Terror is is um the world's greatest

731
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: theme park attraction. That's how we ever seen the movie

732
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: starring Steve Guttenberger. Of course, of course, um yeah. I

733
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: I feel like Rose and I were discussing before you

734
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: came here that you you will inevitably be immortalized on

735
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: a theme park of some kind. I think I feel

736
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: like all my only goal is to book a film.

737
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: The only reason I'd even want to book like a

738
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: film franchise is to potentially star in a pre show

739
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: for a theme park attraction, like you know, Philly Serves,

740
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: shot is in Dinosaur And there's just certain actors that

741
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: pop up in these Disney theme park attractions. And by

742
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: the way, Julia Stiles just iconically booked the Born stunt show,

743
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: so she does the whole pre show and when I

744
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: tell you, I didn't know it was her. And when

745
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: I saw her pop up and she was like, I'm

746
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 1: Nicolette Parsons, I was like, I absolutely scream. Any think

747
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: she's just doing it as Julia Stiles, Well, I don't know,

748
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: because also canonically she's dead in the Born films. And

749
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 1: he even says she goes and he thought I died,

750
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: but I didn't, And I'm like, girl, you look dead

751
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: to me. The rides play fast and Loose with Cannon,

752
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: they really do? They really. One of the scariest rides

753
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: of my childhood was do you remember I don't know

754
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: if it still exists at Walt disney World, snow Whites

755
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 1: Scary than they have updated it to now they don't

756
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: have that anymore because no, it's now so there's now

757
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: like a bigger snow white thing us. It's not scary.

758
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: There's no witch at the end. There's a witch at

759
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: the end, and there's a witch throughout. But the thing

760
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: about snow White Scary Adventures is it was so small,

761
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: like like you were in that tiny little cart and

762
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: like you're literally moving through very small sets. Like that's

763
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: the cool thing about Fantasy Land, I think, is that

764
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: when you go in those little dark rides that's what

765
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: they're called, Like everything is very intimate and small. Like

766
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: if you ever do um Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, Honey

767
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: Pop the Poppers, like you go to Hell at the end,

768
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: it literally ends in Hell and it feels like the

769
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: queerest ride. And it's also so small and like everything

770
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: that's happening is right on top of you. So in

771
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: that snow White Scary Adventure ride, the witch would pop

772
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: out and she'd be right there right That intimacy definitely

773
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: was terrifying to me as a kid. I remember it

774
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: vividly as a kid, and then I went back again

775
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: as an adult and I was like, this is absolutely honestly,

776
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 1: the ride is better than the movie. It was called

777
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: Snow White's Adventures, and they had to change the name

778
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: to snow White Scary Adventures because parents would be coming

779
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: off the ride like what the funk? Yeah, I like

780
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: I like park that is aiming to terrify and traumatize

781
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: a child, of course, because that is a formative experience.

782
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: That we all need. I still feel a little scared

783
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: atmospherically on Terror of terror do they do an incredible

784
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: Twilight Zone theme song and the fact that they've changed

785
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: it to what Guardians of the Galaxy in Disneyland, but

786
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: also the mission break up right is a bop? I

787
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I also not been on it. I haven't.

788
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: But I also missed the Aerosmith roller coaster at MGM,

789
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: which it was Arrowsmith there. Yes, it's still there, it's

790
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: still standing tall. I haven't been to that in Orlando

791
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: Disney in a while. You actually have to go, because

792
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. Also, the Hollywood Studios is now completely

793
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: different and they have the Star Wars Land and Rose.

794
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: You have to do Rise of the Resistance. I the

795
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: last time I was at Disney, I tried to do

796
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: Rise of the Resistance and it was like a virtual

797
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: and you couldn't You couldn't get Star Wars shooter game. No,

798
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: it's confusing, it's it's it's they actually don't have that anymore.

799
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 1: And so now you can just get on the standby

800
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 1: line or like pay for like the Lightning Lane, which

801
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: isn't what they call the fast Past, but the Rise

802
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,479
Speaker 1: of the resistance is like, first of all, it costs

803
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: a billion dollars, which we could debate whether or not

804
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: we needed to spend the money on that, but when

805
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 1: you're on it, it certainly is what would you rather?

806
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: What would you rather? They have spent the money on

807
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: public public schools? Of course? Health care? Health care? Yeah,

808
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: do you have if you were to, like, you know,

809
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: design a right on your own or if there is

810
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: there like a kind of entity where you were like,

811
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: I wish this was a ride? Have you thought about this?

812
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: You know? What I think they've gotten wrong every single

813
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: time is Fast and the Furious because they do that

814
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: stupid little bullshit in the studio tour where it's like

815
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: the screens are on either side or whatever. They in Orlando,

816
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: they made that a full attraction and it's so lame

817
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: and stupid. And I was like, if you have the

818
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 1: Fast and the Furious property, like make it a roller coaster.

819
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: Make it a racing roller coaster, you know what I mean? Like,

820
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: I've never seen a Fast and Furious movie, so I

821
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: don't know. But but if you, if you're universal and

822
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: you have that property, why are you making it a

823
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: simulated screen thing? I know, if they had to overhaul

824
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: dueling dragons, like you know, make it fasten. The fact,

825
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's a waste of a property

826
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: because it's screaming out to be this like thing. And

827
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: it's also like definitely that company's biggest hit right now,

828
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: and I think like they messed it up in terms

829
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: of what they have. So I would say reimagining of

830
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: what fast Nefurious could be, and also I would bring

831
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: back Jaws and back to the future. I mean to

832
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: the Future was iconic. It was also is et does

833
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: that sound still there? Because he actually this is this

834
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: is the truth about ET. Steven Spielberg said he will

835
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: end his relationship with the company if they if they

836
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: demolished that ride, so they have to wait, they have

837
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: to wait until he dies. That is very queeny but

838
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: also a serve. Like there's a very iconic childhood photo

839
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: of me from the e T Ride. I don't really

840
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: like that movie though. It's kind of very and weird

841
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: for coming from my childhood. I just it's it's not

842
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's kind of e T is kind

843
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: of grotesque. I don't remember attaching to this. I couldn't

844
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: give a funk about you two. Yeah, I don't care.

845
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I just I don't know. It wasn't for me.

846
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: But I'm sorry, sorry, but I but I I love

847
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: that for you, genuinely. Sorry, perturb Um. Okay, Matt, I

848
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, obviously pre show isn't it is

849
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: you know, gonna happen for you. But I also Rose

850
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: and I were talking about how you would probably fit

851
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: really nicely into like the Disney cinematic universe, Like I

852
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: think that'll be any I mean, once they allow fast technically,

853
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: I am in Fire Island because you know, you know

854
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: that Disney like owns and pays for it. So it's

855
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 1: Searchlight and comes to Epcot Studios. I will be a

856
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: star of it. So wait, I will tell you this.

857
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: This is going to be a spoiler for the movie.

858
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: I think I think I am the first person in

859
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 1: the main cast of a Disney film to get fucked

860
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: in the ass on camera. Wowow that would be. And

861
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: that's that's a ride? Is that? Yeah? I was gonna say,

862
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 1: is that like the end of the ride here it's

863
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: Luke's Bottom Adventure. Love that? But I will say, like

864
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: I don't take that lightly, no, And I don't think

865
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: that that makes me a Disney pretty don't take it,

866
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: and I don't take it lately, but I do take

867
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: it bare back from behind in your bottom era of course.

868
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: Um Okay, wow, that's amazing. That is a bit of

869
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 1: a spoiler, but like you know, because I just won't

870
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: be happy, will be happy about I was thinking more

871
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: like a I could see you as like a gay

872
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: James Marsden and enchanted. Actually incredible and very very kind

873
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: of you to say, I really really want that. Yeah,

874
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: and I'm willing to sell my soul for I know

875
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: that I've got a little taste, like I'm actually here

876
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: to sell that. I think if that show Once upon

877
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: a Time was still on, like you would be on

878
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 1: it as like some a real life version of some

879
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: Disney prints. Do you ever look back at the cast

880
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: of that show? It's a gag, it's since because they're

881
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: all super famous now. Sebastian Stan played the Mad Hatter.

882
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: I did not know that, my everything, that's crazy. I

883
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: had no idea did you. Did you have like a

884
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: favorite Disney entity growing up or one that was really

885
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: formative to you as a kid. Well, when I was

886
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: really little, I was like obsessed with Little Mermaid and

887
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: that was kind of the one for me. But I

888
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: remember being absolutely terrified of Ursula because I think I

889
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: was scared of what was inside myself, which is a

890
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: drag queen. Yeah. Well, by the way, you guys know,

891
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: Crystal Kongman got from Real House was of Beverly Hills, obviously. Obviously,

892
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: so her husband Rob, I don't know if you know this,

893
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: but he actually drew the original prototype for what Ursula

894
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: was gonna look like because he wasn't he he had

895
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: a gay roommate and the gay roommate was like obsessed

896
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: with divine and obsessed with drag queens and like exposing

897
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: Rob to all this, and so they were having a

898
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: really hard time figuring out with the design of Ursula

899
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: was going to be. And originally she was supposed to

900
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: be more like a a smelt like Cruella de Ville type,

901
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 1: like like Bitch of the Seed that was the sequel

902
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: The Mermaid. A Little Mermaids sequel had the sister that

903
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: was kind of like that. Yeah, yeah right, and so

904
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: um I think also that that became what Vanessa was

905
00:48:53,880 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: like when she when she that little ditty, she's like

906
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: giving you a cunt. I don't even know how that

907
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: little Mermaid on the ocean will be stunning, incredible, my

908
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: favorite part of the whole movie. But basically, Rob Minkoff

909
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: drew the original designed for Ursela that they ended up using,

910
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 1: and so that's actually part of how he proved himself

911
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: to direct Lion King is because he essentially created Ursela

912
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: and he was the one that was like, we should

913
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: base it on Divine the drag Queen, and which informed

914
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: obviously the casting of Pat Carroll, and that's queer history. Absolutely.

915
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: I had heard. I knew that like Divine Origin, but

916
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know was Rob specifically Minkoff. It was Rob Minkoff,

917
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: and now it's going to be Melissa McCarthy and I

918
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: kind of wish it. I kind of wish it was Gaga.

919
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,479
Speaker 1: It absolutely should have been. Absolutely and I'm not taking

920
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: anything away from Meliss McCarthy, but I know because she

921
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: will she will, she will eat and tear. But I

922
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: do think I know how she'll do it. It's kind

923
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: of vious, and I think Gaga would have found a

924
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 1: really psychotic way in I've also heard her poor unfortunate Souls.

925
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: Oh are you that? Yeah? I really wish it like

926
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: we did that as a complete bit and now to

927
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: the point where like I could sort of see them

928
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: doing it, but then it would be a waste of

929
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 1: bow and like Moe probably should play like some bigger part.

930
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: But like I do think like it's it got to

931
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: the point where like our managers actually reached out and

932
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: asked and they told in the movie that's a missed opportunity.

933
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: I think that's a huge, big mistake. Huge. There's a

934
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: lot of like you know, Disney crannies that you could play.

935
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: There's like Pain and Panic and Hercules. There are, you know,

936
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: an assortment of henchman if you will. I was there

937
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: for a Hercules ride or moment. There is gonna be

938
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,959
Speaker 1: a live action movie, which is shocking to me because

939
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: you just told me that the cartoon was like a

940
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: total flop, which I didn't want because it was my

941
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,959
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was. Maybe this is just because

942
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: I'm gay, but like I never gravitated towards the Disney

943
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: movies that starred men male characters, like even Aladdin. Ah,

944
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: I can't. I couldn't really get into it, Like forget

945
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: about jungle Book, Like I wasn't into them. I was

946
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: actually I don't really remember this but apparently I was

947
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: super obsessed with Robin Hood. Well, Robin Hood is hot

948
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: and also iconic socialists, yes, the Bernie Sanders of his time.

949
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: I really loved Beauty and the beast that was. That

950
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: was kind of kind of my favor. I did love

951
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: Little Mermaid and Untouchable. When I was a kid, we

952
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: had a bunk bed and I used to poke my

953
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: head through the slats of the bunk bed and pretend

954
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: I was aerial looking out of the porthole of the boat. Um.

955
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: And I definitely played Mermaid a lot in the pool.

956
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: I put all the silver ware in our house like

957
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: it's a dingle hop right. I was like, no, that's

958
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: silver ware and we have to use it to eat,

959
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: So get it the funk out of your hair, you

960
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: fucking filth. I'm just waiting for some TikTok where someone's like,

961
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: hair hack, columb your hair with the fork, and it's like,

962
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: it's what's gonna happen? Um. My favorite was definitely Hercules

963
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: growing up. I actually feel like it was sexually formative

964
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: to me as well. You want to yes, well, and

965
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: you wanted to be Meg. Here's that. I wanted to

966
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: be Meg, period. No chance no. One of the best

967
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: songs in like the Disney in the Disney Songbook. Um,

968
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: I feel like, uh, young Herk and old Hirk are

969
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: kind of exactly my types, like my two different types,

970
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: just like you know, really teeny tiny, fragile twings and

971
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: then like men that are so big that they don't

972
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 1: care if I live or die. Hercules. Hercules is an

973
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: M to M trans man, Yes, M Tom love that. Yeah.

974
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, nothing in between though, Like it's either huge

975
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: or like absolutely could Yeah, he was hitting the human

976
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: growth hormone a little too hard for sure. That's why

977
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: it's such a queer story, is that you Herk is

978
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: on t was on a roll. The only thing he

979
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: was on was rolling. I really do think that, Um,

980
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: I would actually, I'm just going to throw this out

981
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: there to Disney. I would sell my soul because they're listening, honey.

982
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: I would sell my soul to play Hercules. And I

983
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 1: feel as a Greek American I have I have claimed

984
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: to that the Kumon and Johnny body plan that they

985
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: would put you on, that would be that's worth like

986
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars a month. Like

987
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: I'm willing to make it my whole year just getting

988
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: into shape for it. That would be my drink. I

989
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 1: can't go out. I'm getting into shape for herk no drinking.

990
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't have a sip of that alcohol.

991
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: Every morning you wake up, you eat forty seven eggs,

992
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: raw eggs, like just like gust On, just like, oh

993
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: my god, I am. I am so upset that the

994
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: gast On TV show isn't happening, only because of Rita Aura.

995
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: I was looking contextualized this. Wait, wait, was it was

996
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: that green lit? And then now, yeah, I was never

997
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: heard it was so it was going to be it

998
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: was going to be a prequel starring Gaston and Lafu

999
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 1: about I guess maybe them being gay, and Rita Aura

1000
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 1: was announced to be in it. She did a grid

1001
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: post and then like a week later, Disney was like,

1002
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: just kidding, this isn't happening, probably because of timing or whatever.

1003
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: All the time like that. This is the difference between

1004
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: Disney and like Universal is Disney will rocket their load

1005
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 1: off being like here's everything that's happening in the next

1006
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: ten years, and half of it won't happen, and Universal

1007
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: will literally build an attraction without announcing it and then

1008
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: when it's done, they'll be like coming soon this and

1009
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, we've been seeing it. In fact,

1010
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: when I went to Universal Um while they were building

1011
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: the Veiloscopy coaster, I asked a ride like like a

1012
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: person like working a food stand. I was like, when

1013
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: is this opening? Because it wasn't announced, and she goes,

1014
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: I actually don't know what you're talking about, and I

1015
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: was and I was like, I was like, seriously, like

1016
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: you can't tell me, like because because it's not announced.

1017
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: She goes, I mean theoretically, like I don't even really

1018
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: know what that is, but like maybe spring summer. And

1019
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: then a little red laser pointer appeared on her forehead

1020
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: and she was taken and I was like, mom, a

1021
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: blink three times if you need hup. I didn't know

1022
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: that there was like a Disney power over the Universals.

1023
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: They are so in character at all times, like imagineers

1024
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: love it. At the Pandora World, if you asked them

1025
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: about the movie, they call it the documentary. At Star

1026
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: Wars Galaxy's Edge, if you ask them about the Star

1027
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 1: Wars movie, they call them the legends. By the way,

1028
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: when when you do go on rise at the resistance,

1029
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: the spoiler alert, they get captured by the like a

1030
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: first order or whatever. I didn't want to know that,

1031
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: just kidding. These theme park rights are full method. That

1032
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: is like sky it's giving and then it's giving. Yeah. Um,

1033
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: did you ever work with six Flags? Yeah, for sure

1034
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: did because I grew up in the Midwest and we

1035
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: would take like our class trips there. I remember this

1036
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: the it was either a Superman roller coaster or a

1037
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: Batman roller coaster that went truly like you go up

1038
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: and then you go straight down. You're thinking of. It's

1039
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: called the Chiller, and um it was in a Great Adventure.

1040
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: Did you ever get a six Flags Great Adventure in

1041
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: New Jersey? No? Maybe, So that's like the one that

1042
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: I grew up around, and it had something called Batman

1043
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: and Robin the Chiller, which is one red car in

1044
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: one blue car, which sort of race and one of

1045
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: them went up and down another one like did like

1046
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: a flip. But six Flags, I mean that is the

1047
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: roller coaster haven. Like, if you want to go get

1048
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: absolutely tossed and turned, you go to six Flags, either

1049
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: Magic Mountain or Great Adventure. That's West Coast, East Coast,

1050
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: and then all the other ones are sort of like

1051
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: second tier. Um, how much acid do you think like

1052
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: the six Flags marketing exects did in order to invent

1053
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: the six Flags Guy, because that was like absolutely a

1054
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: moment in culture. I think he already I think he

1055
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: already other commercial was the six Live commercial. I think

1056
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 1: he already existed and six Flags was kind of built

1057
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 1: around him. Yeah. Yeah, that makes more sense than them

1058
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: coming up with him as a result of like, well

1059
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: we have this part, who do we get to be

1060
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: the face of it? He's like an immortal entity that

1061
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: has existed since the dawn of time. And also that

1062
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: insane song that Benga like they picked. I think it's

1063
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: crazy because it is objectively the most annoying song in

1064
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, it's also so fun. We were just

1065
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: listening to it when we were in josh Are on

1066
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: vacation last week by the pool, and it was kind

1067
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: of the moment. It's hyper pop. It invented hyperpop. It did.

1068
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: It is Charlie x X. There is no Charlie x

1069
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: X without and that's actually a little culture. There is

1070
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: no name. Probably Daddy. Have you seen Katie Katie Gavin

1071
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: from Muna's um six Flags Guy costume for Halloween this year,

1072
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: she and her sister who I think she's her sister

1073
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: is younger, but like they look exactly the same. They

1074
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: were both the six Flags guy with like you know,

1075
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: I can see that that's for her, and it was

1076
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: hunting chilling. They played the Thing Boy song at least

1077
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: three times. I didn't spend a lot of time at

1078
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: six Flags, but outside of going to Disney and Universal

1079
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: a lot growing up, I spent a lot of time

1080
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: at state fairs and Renaissance fairs. Yeah, that was less

1081
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: my situation, but I definitely whenever there was like, um,

1082
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,439
Speaker 1: like an amusement park for a day, like they would

1083
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,959
Speaker 1: set it up in town, I was always like extremely

1084
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: unconcerned about this with the safety. I was like, no,

1085
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: no, no no, we're going and we're doing everything. That's great.

1086
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: And now it's like you kind of get the sense

1087
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,959
Speaker 1: that accidents happened there all the time. It's like full

1088
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: carniv Nightmare Alley Boots scarier than Nightmare. All we'll get

1089
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: more deformed. You ever been in a dunk tank? You

1090
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: know what? I've done a dunk tank. I've been dunked

1091
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: and I would never do it again because, like I

1092
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: genuinely feel like it's just like if it's like signing

1093
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: up for an ear infection. Yeah, it's genuinely dangerous. It's like,

1094
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: let me here, let me opt into something that will

1095
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: be painful for me and potentially cause hearing loss. Yeah.

1096
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:11,439
Speaker 1: I don't want to do it again because I delve

1097
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: the water is chlorinated and I know the second I'm

1098
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: hitting the water, I'm pissing. Yeah, so of course I

1099
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: almost everybody of water, so do I Frand wouldn't let

1100
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: me pee in the pool at our Joshua? Why? I

1101
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: I wasn't a cop about it, but I was like,

1102
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: you know, the toilet is literally right there. You're going

1103
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: to love it. Yeah, I mean, look, I I'm need

1104
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: to drink piss consensually, but maybe not in a pool

1105
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: of chlorinated water. It becomes the water. Yeah. What's your

1106
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: favorite food to eat at a theme park? Because I

1107
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: think food is a very important part of the experience.

1108
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: Chicken fingers is a great answer. Chicken fingers on like

1109
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: a basket of fried scenario. Absolutely, there really some buffalo

1110
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: sauce and some barbecue. It's a good food to have

1111
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: to be mobile. If you're walking around walking hold a basket. Yeah,

1112
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: you can wait in line for a ride while eating

1113
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: chicken fingers. I I love a turkey leg the same.

1114
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: But also the thing about the turkey leg is I

1115
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: always think they're better in theory than practice because they

1116
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: really are a mess. There's so much more of it

1117
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: than you could ever imagine, and they're kind of like

1118
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: stringy and like you have to do a lot of

1119
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: teeth work, and there's no way to eat it sexy. No,

1120
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: there's no way to eat it sexy. I think we

1121
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: can try. I would actually surprised. Oh I I literally can.

1122
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: But wait. The thing about turkey is it has tripped

1123
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: a fan you want and tired. I love that you

1124
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: that Oh wow, you've been sending so much time around bow.

1125
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: You know your chemistry? Um, okay, b used to be

1126
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: a chemistry major. He mean he not even used to be.

1127
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: He is and forever will best degree in chemistry. I

1128
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: didn't even know he finished it. That's so funny. I

1129
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: think he has like a Bachelor of Arts in chemistry,

1130
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: though he has like he doesn't have like a Bachelor

1131
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: of Sciences. He has a big fat as chemically. No,

1132
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: I think it's a true thing. Though I think he

1133
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: has a b a. In chemistry, and I don't know how.

1134
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,439
Speaker 1: I think that's because I don't know exactly how that works,

1135
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: but I'm almost positive that's what chemistry is an art

1136
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: form if you think about it, I wonder what you

1137
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: need to study to be an imagineer. I, well, it's

1138
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: actually so much more engineering than you think, because that

1139
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: makes sense. Well no, but literally, like I always thought,

1140
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: like when I was a kid, because I would always

1141
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: be on Real Question Tycoon and think I want to

1142
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: do this for a living with and then you find

1143
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: out exactly what it entails. And it's not like you

1144
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: brainstorm and like, Okay, what can Cinderella get up to

1145
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: in this theme? It's like it's not about co sign,

1146
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: tangent or whatever the fun. Yeah you are you actually

1147
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: actually have you ever thought that you were going to

1148
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: die on a ride? Because I have. I think I

1149
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 1: was going to die, you know what. Okay, this iconically happened,

1150
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: um when I was on well, when I was on

1151
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: X two at six Flags. That is the scariest ride

1152
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: I've ever done. But I also I have been skydiving,

1153
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,919
Speaker 1: so I've actually done things that have been close to death.

1154
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: But thematically I remember when Bowen Yang, Dave Mazzony and

1155
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: I went the three of us to Disney World, like

1156
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: probably five or six years ago. We Dave had made

1157
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: these rice Crispy treats that were that had marijuana in them,

1158
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: and they were I've never been more high in my life.

1159
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: And we were just truly like slobbering and making noise

1160
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: the whole time, and we were having so much fun.

1161
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: But we got on the Tower of Terror and it

1162
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: broke down halfway through, like right after we as as

1163
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: canonically in the car had entered the Twilight Zone, and

1164
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: so that's the scariest part where you could break down.

1165
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: And literally we were so high and just like sitting

1166
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: there and like it's dark, and we had we had

1167
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: committed so hard to the reality that literally someone like

1168
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: we were sitting there for like five minutes and it

1169
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: was full dark, and we're again in the Twilight Zone.

1170
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: So we're sitting there like literally baked, and someone just

1171
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: comes in like enters the frame and we were like

1172
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: excuse me, sir, and they were like, hey, so you

1173
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: guys have to just get out of the car and

1174
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: walk into the set and come down with us, And

1175
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: like I was just like that's walk into the Twilight Zone.

1176
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: They were like, they were like, yeah, yes, we have

1177
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: to walk into the pilots and like the Disney person

1178
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: is still like half heartedly keeping it up and also

1179
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: like come on bags, let's go, and so we were like,

1180
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: oh my god, like as the girls coming again us,

1181
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: we seriously walked out, stepped off the set into literally

1182
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 1: like an industrial looking elevator area and I was like,

1183
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: oh fuck, like and they're like, yes, when I go again,

1184
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: and we're like, yeah, I guess. But then none. It

1185
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: was forever ruined because you know, it's not really the

1186
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: Twilight The illusion was broken and broke my buzz. Maybe

1187
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: a Taylor Swift will have a theme park, you know

1188
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: someone actually someone on Twitter like made of tell us

1189
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: sort of theme park. You've got to find it, and

1190
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: they drew the whole map for it and described all

1191
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: rise like based on all of her like songs, and

1192
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: it was fucking great. It was so much fun. That

1193
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: would have a market, I mean more so than Tyra

1194
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: Banks Model Land, which was also supposed to happen, but

1195
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: like that, I think like a tailor theme park. Was

1196
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: that a casualty of the pandemic that that didn't happen. Well,

1197
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: I don't remember we talked about We talked about it

1198
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: on a previous episode, but I don't think it was

1199
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: a pandemic casualty. I think it was something that just

1200
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: didn't happen, because it sounds insane. I mean you think

1201
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: you think to yourself like, oh, she's a singer, she

1202
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: can't have a theme park with them. But have you

1203
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: been to Dollywood? Because so good I've heard. It's not

1204
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: what you want to know, it's so fun. It's actually

1205
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: it was so surprising because I went expecting like a

1206
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: little rinky dink kind of state fair thing, and it

1207
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: is a full on theme park. And my favorite ride

1208
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: was there is a mining roller coaster that's like a

1209
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: dark ride, and it was so fun, and the theme

1210
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: park is huge and expansive. And I was there right

1211
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: before Halloween, so it was all dressed for Halloween. And

1212
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: I also met Dolly like three times. So I can't

1213
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: believe you went to Pigeon Forge. Well, it was for

1214
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: it was a it was a press thing. It was

1215
01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: for the junket for her Netflix show, So so it

1216
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: was like we interview Dolly heart Strings day one. We

1217
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: interviewed Dolly. Then the next day we got a full

1218
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: free day at Dollywood, and then the next day was

1219
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: the premiere of heart Strings, which was at Dollywood. That's amazing,

1220
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: she an absolutely, She's so fun, so such a legend,

1221
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: so sweet. Clocked me immediately. It was great, love it. Wow.

1222
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: I mean we have to go at some point, we do.

1223
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: I've heard also that like the patrons of Dollywood are

1224
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 1: like shockingly diverse, like you would kind of gore. Didn't that?

1225
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: Oh really, I heard that it's very very very like

1226
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: giving red stake. That was not my experience. I mean

1227
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: maybe it was because I was there with a bunch

1228
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: of journalists, but like I did see plenty of patrons

1229
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: who were, you know, like who seemed queer. Um. They

1230
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 1: did give us all Dolly bucks to spend, which is

1231
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: a currency that exists there, and we were able to

1232
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: spend it on food, but I ended up not using

1233
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: any of them, so I gave them to some very

1234
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: nice gaze that I saw Dolly buck to like usd

1235
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: like conversion. I think Dolly Dolly bucks are are better start.

1236
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: That's what a crypto also have. They have like and

1237
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: they have like one of the world renowned best wooden

1238
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: roller coasters, in the country. I went on, you love

1239
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: love a rickety Racketty, I love a rickets And they

1240
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: have a replica of Dolly's childhood home that might in

1241
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 1: my Tennessee Mountain home. So cool that would actually make

1242
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: me weep, and I'm not I say that with no physicians.

1243
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: It's like it's like the size of this studio and

1244
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: right now, So that's really cool. I mean. Also, the

1245
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: thing that's cool about her is like she completely supports

1246
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: the ecosystem of that whole city that the park. So

1247
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: she basically literally revolutionized her hometown with that and like

1248
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: people their work and you know, revolutionized and radicalized. And

1249
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: she told them all to read basically, I mean, she

1250
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: has that literacy program. We're all going to Dollywood to

1251
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: that code of Many Colors, more like city of many

1252
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: employed people is going to take us straight to Dollar

1253
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: is getting is driving off a bridge and you know it.

1254
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 1: If you do go to Orlando and you only have

1255
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: a short amount of time, make it stay at the

1256
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 1: Universal Orlando Resort because if you stay in a good

1257
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: hotel there, you use your room key to get to

1258
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: the frontal line on every ride. He doesn't for the

1259
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: Virgin And is that no code Virgin and make sure

1260
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: you tell that to all the ride off exactly what

1261
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 1: you're talking. But if you stay at a hard Rock Hotel,

1262
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 1: the Portofino Bay Hotel or the Royal Pacific Hotel, any

1263
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: of those three, which are really good hotels, you get

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Speaker 1: to stay right on the resort and you're very close

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Speaker 1: to theme parks. And if you show them your room

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Speaker 1: key at the front of every single attraction, almost they

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01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: let you to the front of the line. And it's

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Speaker 1: only those three hotels or you just like those three, Wow,

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01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 1: that really is a hack. Any other prescriptions for Universal

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Speaker 1: Lower six flags or anything like that. For versions Mary Walk,

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01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: you have to Mama, just don't look back back at

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01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: Margarite of Ville City Walk. It's an absolute dream. And

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Speaker 1: joy I also would say, um, the Tooth Somems Chocolate Emporium,

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01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: that's very good for all my people that want sweet

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Speaker 1: and savory. Yeah, what's the candy store that's there. It's

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01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: sugar sugar that horrifies me. And then in the theme

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01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: park itself at Islands Adventure, there's a really cute restaurant

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Speaker 1: called Mythos, which is right next to which in the

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Speaker 1: Lost Continent area. Wait Poseidon's Adventure. It's open again. It's

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Speaker 1: open again. Shut that one down for years because of

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01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: the pandemic. It's so fun, although I wish it was

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Speaker 1: something that was you were moved through rather than having

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01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: to walk. You do have to walk through it, but

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01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 1: that that ride actually has like iconic acting. It does

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Speaker 1: and there's never a line. This is universal Yes Adventure,

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Speaker 1: Okay Aventure, Poseidon's Fury. Basically, it's a battle between the

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Speaker 1: Poseidon and his enemy. That's all I'll say. It's given

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01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,919
Speaker 1: kind of like the universal version of the Haunted Mansion,

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01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: but not as fun, and you have to walk through it. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Verdicts on the Haunted Mansion, Love Love Love, Pirates of

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01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: the Caribbean. This is my most controversial opinion. Parts of

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Speaker 1: the Caribbean is such an iconic flop to me, the ride,

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Speaker 1: the ride. Do you hate the movie as well? I

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01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: can't stand. Oh, I'm not the ass fell asleep during

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01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 1: dead Man's Chest You this is actually you don't understand

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Speaker 1: how important Parts of the Caribbean is too, Rose like.

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Speaker 1: I watch it once a quarter. I feel Here's what

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Speaker 1: I'll say. I like the like the first movie more

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Speaker 1: than I like the franchise. The first movie, I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's all about Curse of the Black Pearl, right, so

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Speaker 1: that one I like, I can't stand the sequel and

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01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: the ride bores me to death. I love the ride.

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01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: That's it's okay that we have a different opinion, even

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01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 1: even though we have established that I am the Rose

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01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: of Lost Cultures. But we're here. It's like in the multiverse,

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01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 1: it's like we can't and you will understand after you

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01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 1: see this movie. We we are at war, you know.

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01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 1: I think there's probably a multiverse version of me that

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01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 1: stands part of the Caribbean. Probably probably think as in

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01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: every universe, I love it. Okay, Well do you know

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01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 1: that because I'm the Scarlet witche and well, you would

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01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: actually be America shop Is. I think if you have

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Speaker 1: the ability to go through universes. I'm so obsessed with Wanda.

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01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 1: I loved one division so much. I don't want to

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01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: see her become the villain, or do I do? I

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01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: read really bad reviews and I didn't agree with them,

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01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: and I walked out of the theater. Can I say

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01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: something about reviews? They're wrong all the time. They're wrong

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01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 1: all the time, like and now being in things that

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01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: are getting reviewed either reviews, and I'm just like, what

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01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Like, and I'm just I feel

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01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 1: so stupid forever being like like sending a review to

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Speaker 1: like my group chat and be like, oh, I guess

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01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: this sucks. Like they're wrong all the time, and they're

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01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: wrong when they say things are good, and they're wrong

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01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: when they say things are bad. And you want to

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01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: know what it is. This is review culture. No one

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Speaker 1: wants to put out a review about most things, which

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01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: are yeah, this is fine, there's good things about it,

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01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 1: and there's bad things about it, because that won't go

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01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 1: viral online. Because viral online is this is the greatest

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Speaker 1: film of the year with a transformative performance by Lady Gaga,

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01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 1: or this is the worst piece of should have all time.

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01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: Lady got should go to jail like those two genders.

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01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: But that's the binary. People don't realize that she should

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01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 1: be in jail for genius, for being If I said

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01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:55,600
Speaker 1: she's too powerful, she is the scarlet. She has the

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01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: scarlet which all the which I do feel even stronger

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01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 1: about after seeing the whole my Hand music video, which,

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01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 1: as France said, is basically just a Charlie incarnate performance. Yeah,

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01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:11,719
Speaker 1: it was like Charlie shipping her handed down. I really

1342
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 1: think she should date Tom Cruise. I think they would

1343
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: be such a power that makes no sense to me.

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01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 1: I don't think she can date someone that insecure, do you?

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01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: What do you think? I mean? I saw that photo

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01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: of her kissing him on the cheek and she described

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01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 1: him as her good friend, and I was like, oh wow,

1348
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:24,759
Speaker 1: this is officially the arrow. We're in, a Lady Gaga,

1349
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: like full on Hollywood sell out, like kissing kissing this

1350
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 1: like maniacal villain on the on the cheek. I'm going

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01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: to write fan fiction about them. I really believe in

1352
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 1: their loves. Sure, I mean, if they were to start dating,

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01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be it wouldn't be out of left field

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01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: for me. No, we would feel a little bit like

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01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 1: an arranged It would feel like an industry blog. I

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01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 1: would feel arranged because nothing he ever does is as

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01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 1: arranged as Gee Flip and Crusie Stoles and selling Sunset.

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01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 1: And I don't think that's arranged. No, I mean, I'm

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01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 1: just I did listen to hold my hand on the

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Speaker 1: way here, and I will listen to it on the

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01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: way home. So he is the thing. The first time

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01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: I listened to it, I was like, Oh, this sucks

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01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: and it's so first thought and it's like whatever. It

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01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: doesn't even feel like top Gun to me. It's like,

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01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: doesn't reference take my take my breath away. It's like

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01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 1: not giving me what I need. And I feel like

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01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: she just wrote a ballad for any movie. And also

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01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 1: I think she's like over singing it. But then I

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01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: listened to it a second time and I was like,

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01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 1: this is kind of in the best song of all time.

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01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 1: It's like it's doing that to me where I'm just

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01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: really torn in both directions on whether or not it's

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01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 1: like acceptable, and I think I'm gonna love It's my

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01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: favorite Jo doing Born This Way drag and I love it.

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01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 1: But don't you feel though, like sometimes like when I

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01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 1: heard Shallow for the first time, I was like, yeah,

1377
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: no denying that, but that's the one, and I felt

1378
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 1: like I hadn't heard anything like it before from her.

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01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: It's like, hold my hand. I feel like it's like

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01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: a ballad that could have been on Born this Way.

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01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 1: What I was telling Rose, I feel like it it

1382
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 1: sounds like seven other songs that probably it probably was

1383
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: something that was or she wrote it in five minutes

1384
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 1: and like Top Guns, Original Labs, ad and that's all

1385
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 1: it needs to do. Not no, I mean, but I

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01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 1: don't know. It's like I don't know what's been the

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01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 1: best movie song to come out lately. Shallow Literally that

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01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 1: was that to me is the most recent, Like I

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01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: can't think of another. I want to say, while we're

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01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 1: talking about Disney fucking justice for Into the Unknown? What

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01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 1: is that? It is a very good song, um, Adina,

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01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, a huge presence among us. Um. I think

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01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: it's great. It's no let It Go. I think it's

1394
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: no let it Go. But also imagine knowing you had

1395
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 1: to follow up Let it Go and you come even

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01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: that close and you're Adina, who's already your whole career

1397
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 1: is about following up the iconic thing that you just did. Um.

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01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 1: I do think Show Yourself is a better song than

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01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 1: Into the Unknown. You know what. Show Yourself actually surprised

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01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 1: me because I was like, Wow, this like dropped in

1401
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: more introspective moment and there's the yeah, the moment with

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01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 1: the mom then it's like where she realizes she's really good.

1403
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 1: But I will say, just like that line Into the

1404
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 1: Unknown where she says, um, don't you know this part

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01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: of me that longs to go into the not I

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01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: was just like, lungs to go there's part of me

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01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: that longs to go into the unknown. I was like

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01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 1: the lyrics, you know, is there a Frozen ride? Yes,

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01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: it's an epcot. Okay, it used to be Maelstrom the

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01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 1: ride there in the Norway Pavilion with the trolls. They

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01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 1: have now turned that into Frozen ever After Rosen never After,

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01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,679
Speaker 1: sort of a riff off of Carrie Underwood's ever ever

1413
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 1: After from Enchanted and got it ever ever After from Enchanted.

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01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 1: That was a moment, as it was the music video

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01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: where she's walking down the street, the iconic key change

1416
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: in the second chorus ever ever And it's not smart.

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01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: It's weird how we culturally forgot about like enchanted. I

1418
01:15:56,280 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 1: didn't just enchanted coming honey. I remember watching Amy Adams

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Speaker 1: performance like at the Oscars that You're and being like,

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01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: who is that was so brave. First of all, two songs,

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01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 1: two or three songs nominated from Enchanted that You're at

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01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 1: the Oscars. There's the one so Close and yes, that

1423
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: one that that guy sings. Kristin Chenowith came in. They

1424
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 1: gave her a whole fucking fanfare. They lifted around on

1425
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 1: a chair. How does she know that whole thing? Then

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01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 1: Amy Adams, I said to do happy working song. You're

1427
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 1: going out there cold by yourself nothing, and like barely

1428
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 1: she she committed to that and did it, and I

1429
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 1: was like, left her for dead. That had to be

1430
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: so hard. No, so at the time, she was like,

1431
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 1: she had an Oscar nomination from June Bug, but she

1432
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: wasn't like a big star. I didn't know she had

1433
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 1: a nomen by that point, but I had never heard

1434
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 1: of her. Remember june Bug performance booked her enchanted, no way,

1435
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: that's crazy, but it makes complete sense, honestly, and it

1436
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: was a It was a true like theater kid performance,

1437
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 1: Like it reminded me of wind God. I did the

1438
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: Sound of Music moment, one of the I think most

1439
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 1: important moments in her career. Oscar performance. It totally re

1440
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 1: contextualized Lady Gaga and made her into someone that people

1441
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: took seriously. After she had done American Horror Story. She's like,

1442
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 1: it's it's post art pop when she was like kind

1443
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: of flopping and that Oscar's performance is why we have

1444
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: pulled my hands. Fat, nasty and Broke, I would came

1445
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 1: on this bench as hell. You know what's funny, It's

1446
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: like both Gaga and Beyonce really tried the Oscars thing.

1447
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: Remember that year when Beyonce performed like all the nominated

1448
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: songs with Hugh Jackman, right, or was that when he

1449
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: was Josh Growben sang with her once and then she

1450
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 1: did the song in French, and then she sang Learned

1451
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: to Be Lonely from Phantom of the Opera, which was

1452
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: a mini driver song from the movie, and they were like,

1453
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 1: maybe you're not because she famously did not sing in

1454
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 1: the movie. She did do that original song, she just

1455
01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: wasn't in the movie. Well like you dare school on

1456
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: Fantom of the Opera in my house. Well no, Beyonce

1457
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 1: was like very much at the Oscars for several years

1458
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: in a row. She had a residency. She was like

1459
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 1: was her Vegas resident. She was giving Oscar's performer there

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01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: for a while. And then obviously Listen was nominated. She

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01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 1: did the whole dream Worls thing, etcetera. But Gaga to

1462
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: like worked the Oscars because people forget she probably should

1463
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 1: have won an Oscar for until it Happens to you

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01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 1: And now that should have been Diane Warren's Oscar Wimen

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01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 1: and now the people that have residencies is like it's

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01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 1: like her. You know the music artist her, She's played

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, she as as Hunter Harris of Ladies and

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