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Speaker 1: You are still you and you're apparently right here, So
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Speaker 1: listener mail episodes we sort of do a smattering of
Speaker 1: of missives from various sources, you know, from the internet,
Speaker 1: but today we're doing only voice driven missives a k a. Voicemails. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's over explaining this very simple concept that we're doing.
Speaker 1: That's correct. It's oops all voicemails today on stuff they
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Speaker 1: of us just having so many of these great messages
Speaker 1: and we still have seventy five right now as we
Speaker 1: were warning that we haven't even listened to yet. Oh boy,
Speaker 1: that's okay. Today we're gonna hear from Daniel Moore, broccoli
Speaker 1: chef and Nick. Okay, here we go. Hey, guys, my
Speaker 1: name is Daniel, love your show. I'm calling up about
Speaker 1: the weird bit of news and the warehouse fire. I
Speaker 1: am in the very tiny bit of the Zen diagram
Speaker 1: of people who worked actually designing and building fire suppression
Speaker 1: systems for warehouses, and a person who listens to your show.
Speaker 1: So here's what I can tell you about warehouse fires
Speaker 1: and fire suppression systems. I talked to the lead project
Speaker 1: manager and architects for our company, and he said, it
Speaker 1: is virtually impossible to have a warehouse without a fire
Speaker 1: suppression system. The only way he could think of is
Speaker 1: somebody building their own warehouse out in the middle of Montana.
Speaker 1: So New York City, it's going to have a fire
Speaker 1: suppression system. There are two kinds of fire suppression systems.
Speaker 1: There is E s f our early suppression fast response systems,
Speaker 1: which were meant to put out the entire fire. Then
Speaker 1: there's non s f R those are meant to contain
Speaker 1: the fire until the fireman show up. Now, it's not
Speaker 1: to say that any s FR system will always put
Speaker 1: out the fire, and it's not to say that ann
Speaker 1: E s FR fire system won't put out a fire.
Speaker 1: It just depends. Um. The second thing, talked to the
Speaker 1: president of the company and explain the situation to him
Speaker 1: and explaining, you know, lithium batteries, motorcycles and stuff like
Speaker 1: that and a lot of paper, and his response was
Speaker 1: that ship's going to burn, so, um, yeah, it could
Speaker 1: easily be an E S fr system and of course
Speaker 1: being in Texas. His one thing was once I started
Speaker 1: listening things, he's looked me and said, oh and ammo.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there was probably some ammunition in that warehouse.
Speaker 1: So that's my two bits on the warehouse fire. Um,
Speaker 1: good show, Look forward is listening to more episodes take
Speaker 1: Care of Daniel. Oh my gosh, Okay, we really talk
Speaker 1: much about that. Uh and when we when we discussed
Speaker 1: this is obviously a where have I under any old warehouse,
Speaker 1: a massive warehouse compound housing evidence, you know, for presumably
Speaker 1: an entire borough of New York, or maybe even greater
Speaker 1: than that, maybe for the whole city. I'm not quite
Speaker 1: sure how that works. Yes, it is a This is
Speaker 1: a story we did on Strange News about a very
Speaker 1: large warehouse in New York that burnt. There's a huge
Speaker 1: fire there. It had a lot of evidence inside of it.
Speaker 1: It was run or owned I guess by a company
Speaker 1: called the Eerie Basin Marine Associates. That's the whole warehouse itself,
Speaker 1: and then the police department use some portion of that
Speaker 1: to store evidence, meaning they're like leasing it from the owners.
Speaker 1: Um I suppose, so, yeah, they're leasing it that the
Speaker 1: landlord was eerie based in marine associates UM and you know,
Speaker 1: just hearing this information from David, learning about E s
Speaker 1: f R and non E s f R, I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about specifically E s FR systems like the large overhead
Speaker 1: sprinklers that you may see if you maybe live in
Speaker 1: an apartment complex. Many of those have uh kind of
Speaker 1: the older sprinkler systems that will physically just shoot water
Speaker 1: on everything. There are other versions of that that have
Speaker 1: this really cool foam that which some of that foam,
Speaker 1: by the way, we've talked about it before on this show,
Speaker 1: has some of those p f A s chemicals in
Speaker 1: it um. That's one of the reasons it's it functions
Speaker 1: so well as a fire retardant or it stops the fire,
Speaker 1: which is a creepy thing to think about, just getting
Speaker 1: forever chemicals all in or foam and then getting the
Speaker 1: foam on everything, including on the people, uh you know
Speaker 1: they are in the warehouse when the fire starts. UM.
Speaker 1: But those those would make total sense, and it feels
Speaker 1: like either of those systems would have stopped that fire
Speaker 1: really no matter what was burning in there, or at
Speaker 1: least you know, slowed it down enough to where the
Speaker 1: as David said, the fire department gets there then puts
Speaker 1: the fire out. Um, but it doesn't seem like anything happened.
Speaker 1: And then, guys, I found some reporting from the I
Speaker 1: team at Channel four NBC in New York. Uh. They
Speaker 1: put out something on December twenty after we had recorded
Speaker 1: that episode, and it's specifically about fire safety violations sprinkler
Speaker 1: system violations that Eerie Basin Marine Associates had over the
Speaker 1: course of one UH, and it may be the reason
Speaker 1: why the fire got out of control and why everything
Speaker 1: burned instead of it stopped being h Listen to this
Speaker 1: nor they had at least seventeen fire safety infractions in
Speaker 1: so that's failure to test, inspect, or certify sprinkler systems. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so a little bit more on the negligent tip than
Speaker 1: perhaps the conspiratorial you know, it was an inside job tip.
Speaker 1: But I also when looking this stuff because I'm fascinated too,
Speaker 1: because in my head I was also thinking about, like
Speaker 1: what about firewalls, you know, like like things that separate
Speaker 1: different areas of a building, uh and make it where
Speaker 1: you like compartments on the Titanic, which obviously those didn't
Speaker 1: work really well either, But the idea is to keep
Speaker 1: the fire from spreading. But then you picture a warehouse.
Speaker 1: It's all pretty open, usually with like palette racks and
Speaker 1: things like that stacking you know, upward. But then you
Speaker 1: picture again, I'm I'm thinking about like assault on precinct
Speaker 1: Precinct thirteen, breaking bad and you know heights and things
Speaker 1: I've seen around police departments. UH. Usually those type of
Speaker 1: evident storage facilities are more cordoned off and have you know,
Speaker 1: separated you know, parts between them. So you'd think there
Speaker 1: would be some manner of slow burning material that would
Speaker 1: keep the fire from spreading so quickly. That would make sense,
Speaker 1: and I imagine that, Yeah, if you had something like
Speaker 1: that in place those firewalls you're talking about, you could
Speaker 1: at least prevent it from getting to the next warehouse. Right, Um,
Speaker 1: should be great. I did find an article because now
Speaker 1: I'm like, you got going down this rabbit hole for
Speaker 1: the from the National Fire Protection Association n f p
Speaker 1: A is a thing headline from November of unique fire
Speaker 1: protection challenges found in warehouse distribution centers. According to the
Speaker 1: n f p A, UH, warehouse fires happened kind of
Speaker 1: a lot, kind of an alarming amount, with with one thousand,
Speaker 1: four hundred and ten warehouse fires, two deaths, twenty injuries,
Speaker 1: and in estimated one hundred and fifty nine point four
Speaker 1: million indirect property damage every year. UM, And and nobody
Speaker 1: wants that, you know, I mean, especially again, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: think necessarily unless it was an insurance scam that people
Speaker 1: would be negligent about warehouses holding you know, stuff that
Speaker 1: you sell to like make money. But still just the same,
Speaker 1: many of those do go up in flames, as it
Speaker 1: turns out, more than one might think. So the scope
Speaker 1: of the destruction, though, does make me scratch my head
Speaker 1: a little bit. Right, it wasn't it like a complete
Speaker 1: loss basically? Or you know what I can't yet. I
Speaker 1: can't find an update to the story where the NYPD
Speaker 1: is saying here's what was lost, here's what wasn't lost
Speaker 1: in all of that. We half that somebody's job is
Speaker 1: the catalog all of that stuff and make notes and
Speaker 1: make a tick and a ledger for destroyed and fire.
Speaker 1: You know. But what I can find is the statements
Speaker 1: from the f d N Y Fire marshals because it's
Speaker 1: still under investigation, UM just saying yes, we're continuing to
Speaker 1: assess the damage caused by their fire and an update
Speaker 1: will be quote available in the future. Um, there were
Speaker 1: a couple other things I just wanted to bring up here.
Speaker 1: An f d n Y spokesperson said, quote the warehouse
Speaker 1: is sprinklered throughout, so like this one that caught on
Speaker 1: fire does have sprinklers, and the sprinklers activated, but the
Speaker 1: fire spread too quickly. And one of the points they're
Speaker 1: making about this, and I think it speaks to what
Speaker 1: David's talking about. When you're thinking about the layout of
Speaker 1: a warehouse, like you said, it's just a big open
Speaker 1: space often maybe with a few rooms in between, but
Speaker 1: largely open space. The sprinkler layout needs to be modified
Speaker 1: to how you've got things stacked in there, what types
Speaker 1: of materials are stored in what areas. So that's a
Speaker 1: tough that's a tough ask to like change the sprinkler
Speaker 1: system around unless you've got, you know, a version where
Speaker 1: you can easily change out head and where the water
Speaker 1: is actually gonna come down. And the reason I asked
Speaker 1: about the whole leasing situation is typically you think of
Speaker 1: like government entities, you know, like the police department or whatever,
Speaker 1: owning their own building in a space that was built
Speaker 1: like for that express purpose, but we know budget cuts
Speaker 1: and things like that might potentially cause them to have
Speaker 1: to use a pre existing place maybe isn't exactly intended
Speaker 1: for this, and do it quickly and get all that
Speaker 1: stuff in there and make it, you know, make do
Speaker 1: the best they possibly can. But no, sprinklers aren't exactly
Speaker 1: something you can just kind of move around there. Their
Speaker 1: pipes and they terminate, you know, water sources. You've got
Speaker 1: to rerun them or like customize them. Well, yeah, so theoretically,
Speaker 1: what you would do, as the tenant is you would
Speaker 1: stack up the things that are more flammable and more
Speaker 1: at risk in the areas where there's more coverage from
Speaker 1: the sprinklers. Right, it would be on you then. But
Speaker 1: it appears that those two things just were out of sync.
Speaker 1: It wasn't there a thing though, where they were like
Speaker 1: a lot of combustible like batteries to like like scooters
Speaker 1: or electric bikes or something like that, And that was
Speaker 1: a big part of the problem. Yeah, there were there
Speaker 1: were numerous heavy metals that ended up catching on fire
Speaker 1: due to some of the stuff that was kept there
Speaker 1: at the pound. Remember fleet of hoverboards that was an
Speaker 1: issue here. I don't think so. I don't think those
Speaker 1: got hit. I think it was mostly lime scooters. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just joking. I don't know what it was. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we we don't have an inventory list here, but
Speaker 1: just with this one, I just wanted to point out
Speaker 1: there's no I don't have an update yet. I don't
Speaker 1: have more information on what cases are actually going to
Speaker 1: be affected. It's a lot of reporting about the potential
Speaker 1: of many cases being affected. Uh. And that did happen
Speaker 1: in mid December. I wasn't well, I'm sorry, what was
Speaker 1: it on site? But I was in New York and somebody,
Speaker 1: some local uh mentioned that this was, like, you know,
Speaker 1: being we're order on the local news and then they
Speaker 1: knew where this place was, and it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: it was kind of alarming. Maybe no, I know what
Speaker 1: it was. It was when you you weren't with us, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: because but but Ben and I went to New York
Speaker 1: to do the Elvis Durand show and you had some
Speaker 1: family stuff. You couldn't make it. And it was one
Speaker 1: of the guys at Elvis Duran because he was interested
Speaker 1: in the show and he thought it'd be something that
Speaker 1: we would have a take on and he was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, did you just hear about this? You know?
Speaker 1: And so his immediate thought was, you know, that's where
Speaker 1: the mind does tend to go when you hear warehouse
Speaker 1: full of evidence destroyed, because again, my mind always goes
Speaker 1: back to that breaking bad uh sequence where they are
Speaker 1: trying to get one piece of evidence out of of
Speaker 1: the you know, this lock up, which is basically impenetrable.
Speaker 1: In order to get there, they have to destroy everything
Speaker 1: because that's the only way, because you can't really get in.
Speaker 1: It's the only way to make sure that your thing
Speaker 1: isn't used against somebody or you or some you know,
Speaker 1: one of your associates, is to destroy the whole thing. Geez, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember when we talked about that, go full destruction.
Speaker 1: If you wanted to take out one piece of evidence,
Speaker 1: that's nuts. Well, hey, David, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: calling giving us that info and for speaking to all
Speaker 1: the people you spoke to about this. That was very cool.
Speaker 1: You didn't have to do that, and we appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I just thought it's something kind of clever. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pat myself on the back of this one. Do you
Speaker 1: want to find a needle in a haystack, burned down
Speaker 1: the haystack. Oh snap, just saying how hot is the
Speaker 1: fire gonna get? Is it gonna melt Is it gonna
Speaker 1: melt down? Metal? I don't think so. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Brilliant all right, And with that,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break, but we'll be right
Speaker 1: back with more oops. All voicemails, and we're back with
Speaker 1: more oops. Left a voice man, Yes we are okay,
Speaker 1: we definitely are brittany and here we go says is
Speaker 1: this a britty story? It's not at all. I just
Speaker 1: that was the closest those those. Yeah. Sorry, I want
Speaker 1: to learn about this tomato experiment, the famous tomato, the
Speaker 1: masload tomato experience of of of of nineteen seven. Yes, no,
Speaker 1: more like of nineteen one. Uh yeah, let's let's get
Speaker 1: right to it. This is fun. Hey guys, it's more
Speaker 1: broccoli calling you. I have an identical tomato experience as
Speaker 1: Noel does, from you know, being forced to eat this
Speaker 1: life from someone and my aunt in the family, and
Speaker 1: it was, you know, the best tomato, and they just
Speaker 1: were convinced that if I tried the absolute best of
Speaker 1: the thing that I hate that I would love it
Speaker 1: or whatever at least appreciate it, which of course I
Speaker 1: did not, And I also proceeded to throw up, and
Speaker 1: they never made me do it again. But for the
Speaker 1: most part, I'm totally great with tomatoes. Now. You know
Speaker 1: that this happened with blueberries when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: You know, once I threw up the thing that they
Speaker 1: knew I hated and didn't want to eat that they've
Speaker 1: been making me eat, then I never had to eat
Speaker 1: it again once the revergitation happened, which you know, I
Speaker 1: bet you we're able to like make it happen because
Speaker 1: that's like psychological damage as a kid. So it makes
Speaker 1: sense that, like we would, our bodies would align with
Speaker 1: our brain and result like our bodies. Like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: on board with the brain. Screw your family. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pursness up. See if you want me to burst all
Speaker 1: up again when it's good food, you're not gonna want
Speaker 1: to waste it on me. See, there is evolutionary logic
Speaker 1: for it. There isn't. Like studies indicate that like children
Speaker 1: can taste things like bitterness, perhaps more than adult can,
Speaker 1: so like to some extent, like when kids don't want
Speaker 1: to eat vegetables that maybe they're detecting. Can't maybe more serious?
Speaker 1: Hys fact? Oh man, okay, where to where to start?
Speaker 1: That is More Broccoli a k a. Stephanie, and I
Speaker 1: hear her voice more than most other people on our
Speaker 1: voicemail machine. So shout out to you more Broccoli. Oh
Speaker 1: I think she's called in before, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah. We hear from More Broccoli all
Speaker 1: the time. She calls in, probably more than anybody else
Speaker 1: out there. There are a few of you you know
Speaker 1: who you are calling a lot, but this is the
Speaker 1: except you and non you don't know who you are yet.
Speaker 1: But she's called in. This is like the third or
Speaker 1: fourth time we've used More Broccoli on the air. All right,
Speaker 1: thank you More Broccoli for sharing your trauma with me,
Speaker 1: because you're right, it was. It was psychologically traumatic because
Speaker 1: any you know, I mean as you know um, anytime
Speaker 1: you know, being words to eat something that you're body
Speaker 1: and your brain are literally like recoiling from um is
Speaker 1: not good. Is It can be a real shock to
Speaker 1: the system. And uh it is such a parental I
Speaker 1: know best thing to say. No, this is the best
Speaker 1: one of this and therefore you will instantly change your
Speaker 1: perspective if you just listen to me and do the thing.
Speaker 1: Uh And and I'm the first to say that as
Speaker 1: a parent, you know, with a picky eater for a kid,
Speaker 1: I think that way too. Sometimes it's just not how
Speaker 1: it works, because you know, different people have different sensitivities
Speaker 1: to texture. For example, sometimes it's not even about taste.
Speaker 1: It's about texture, you know, or it's about like, you know,
Speaker 1: something that's too squishy, or if it's too whatever, any
Speaker 1: any of these kind of like adjectives. Like meally that
Speaker 1: one grosses me out too. I think it's overwhelmingly about texture,
Speaker 1: and I still have some of that, some aversions to
Speaker 1: certain things and foods because of what the texture is like.
Speaker 1: But it is very interesting how that um texture preference
Speaker 1: changes as you travel throughout the world and go to
Speaker 1: different parts of the world, and then completely different textures
Speaker 1: or normalized and then other ones that I really like
Speaker 1: our weirdest heck, but also it's weird, like my kid
Speaker 1: doesn't like creamy sauces for example, on pasta, but likes
Speaker 1: macaroni and cheese. You know, what could be a creamy
Speaker 1: or sauce than like, you know, Kraft macaroni and cheese,
Speaker 1: or even that she likes. He prefers the kind that
Speaker 1: comes out of the bag, the you know, the velvita,
Speaker 1: the shells, the kind of it's like pre mix and
Speaker 1: this like bizarre creamy paste. It's a gloop. And but
Speaker 1: my point is, though it's a lot of it is
Speaker 1: framed by psychology, a lot of it is framed by
Speaker 1: like how you interpret the thing. You know. It's like
Speaker 1: some people only like food if it's in a certain shape,
Speaker 1: like if it's in a case of dilla versus if
Speaker 1: it's in a bowl on its own. You know, you
Speaker 1: need some kind of rapper. And I think that's true
Speaker 1: of a lot of things, like not to be too
Speaker 1: much of a stretch, but like even ideas, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a lot easy or to to accept something if
Speaker 1: it's kind of wrapped in like a nice pastry shell.
Speaker 1: You know. Like actually we talked about this the other
Speaker 1: day in our episode about um, you know, helping people,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of talk to folks with very very
Speaker 1: different opinions. Is sometimes you've got to sneak those veggies
Speaker 1: in the conversation in order to uh, to get you know,
Speaker 1: the nutrients needed to the to the person who is
Speaker 1: just already predecided they don't want them. But um, this
Speaker 1: call from from more broccoli also made me think about
Speaker 1: just how taste buds and our sense of taste is
Speaker 1: also a product of evolution too, because you know, as
Speaker 1: as we've evolved, it's like taste is much more of
Speaker 1: a luxury than it is like a way of detecting
Speaker 1: bad will this will kill you, you know. So now
Speaker 1: it's like you that's itchy because it tastes like you know,
Speaker 1: broccoli or whatever, instead of like, oh I I taste
Speaker 1: in an herb or or some sort of ingredient or
Speaker 1: substance that if I eat too much of it it
Speaker 1: will kill me, you know. Um, So it's like taste,
Speaker 1: you know, like any sense we've it's kind of been
Speaker 1: repurposed in a lot of ways. And now, you know,
Speaker 1: as you get older, you you lose some taste buds,
Speaker 1: and your taste buds maybe get a little duller um,
Speaker 1: and but they also we kind of feed them in
Speaker 1: different ways, Like when you get older, you might lose
Speaker 1: your sweet tooth, but you might really really like like
Speaker 1: kim che or something that you know, maybe a small
Speaker 1: child might just be too overwhelming, you know, in terms
Speaker 1: of the kind of funky spiciness of it all. And
Speaker 1: then we get older, you create that. But I like
Speaker 1: your cultural perspective on this too, Mad, I'd love to
Speaker 1: explore that a little deeper, because in Korea, I'm sure
Speaker 1: they feed small kids kim chi, and it's all this
Speaker 1: about acclimating, you know, like from a from an early
Speaker 1: age and what you get used to America, we feed
Speaker 1: kids pablum and kind of flavorless crap. I mean, many
Speaker 1: times it becomes, oh, I'm sorry, kid, you don't like
Speaker 1: the way that tastes. We don't have any other foods,
Speaker 1: so exactly, don't eat I guess until you're ready to
Speaker 1: eat the raw tomatoes. Yeah right, So I have gotten
Speaker 1: past it to a degree. I still would never in
Speaker 1: a million years on purpose eat a tomato on its own,
Speaker 1: but I like it on a burger. I like it
Speaker 1: on a club sandwich, you know, seasoned. But yeah, the
Speaker 1: thing if I ate a raw tomato right now, um less.
Speaker 1: So with cherry tomatoes, I find they're they're a little
Speaker 1: sweeter or something, but it's got a thing to it
Speaker 1: that I just don't love on its own. And I
Speaker 1: can imagine as a kid with more perhaps sensitive buds,
Speaker 1: that that thing that I still don't kind of love
Speaker 1: would have just been all encompassing and just kind of
Speaker 1: knocked me on my ass and made me literally vomit
Speaker 1: all over the lovely tray of tomatoes that my mother prepared,
Speaker 1: you know, the best of the season. That's whatever seems
Speaker 1: like too many tomatoes. Yeah, it was a platter, And
Speaker 1: like the I didn't let the look of him either.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, tomatoes have always kind of but
Speaker 1: I love and always have, and same with like kids.
Speaker 1: You know, spaghetti. Every kid loves spaghetti because it's got
Speaker 1: a lot of sugar in it. It's got like things
Speaker 1: in it that offset the natural taste. It's ketchup. Doesn't
Speaker 1: taste like it's tomato has ever been anywhere near it,
Speaker 1: you know? And yet Ben and I did an episode
Speaker 1: on Catchup on Ridiculous History and real you know hines Ketchup.
Speaker 1: I said, I bet there's not even any tomato in
Speaker 1: that stuff. There is. It's all cooked down with a
Speaker 1: lot of sugar and special spices and stuff to the
Speaker 1: point where it's kind of been transformed into something that
Speaker 1: really has no relationship to its tomato, even if that's
Speaker 1: like what's in it. I want to go back to
Speaker 1: this evolutionary thing, the concept of our taste buds for
Speaker 1: some for some reason or somehow being um desensitized to
Speaker 1: a lot of things and losing inability to detect that
Speaker 1: which might harm us. I'm just thinking about the the
Speaker 1: stuff that ends up in many of our processed foods
Speaker 1: that we consume on a regular basis, in many of
Speaker 1: even the fresh foods. If you, you know, think about
Speaker 1: um instances of high levels of mercury within specific types
Speaker 1: of fish, right or you know when there were those
Speaker 1: massive oil spills and people were still eating Gulf shrimp
Speaker 1: that we're coming out of the you know, from the
Speaker 1: bottom of the ocean where all that stuff that the
Speaker 1: dispersant and the oil was all just on the bottom
Speaker 1: where all of the crustaceans were hanging out. And I
Speaker 1: don't know, it just it wears me out because I
Speaker 1: can't tell you to mention microplastics, yeah, in the forever chemicals.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't taste that stuff. I don't know
Speaker 1: when it's going into my body. But I guarantee you
Speaker 1: my bacteria that lives within me, in my stomach and
Speaker 1: my intestines knows when it gets in there well. And
Speaker 1: and that that's the thing that I think is interesting
Speaker 1: to do is like, is our equipment being dulled over
Speaker 1: time where we can't maybe taste more nuanced things in
Speaker 1: terms of the actual you know, how the sensors of
Speaker 1: our tongues, you know, none of our taste buds are
Speaker 1: are functioning. But it's also a relationship to our brain,
Speaker 1: right because we can our brain allows us to pick
Speaker 1: out more nuanced things even if our equipment is a
Speaker 1: little adult because especially you know, things like cigarette smoking
Speaker 1: for example, uh, chemical pollutants uh and and various you know,
Speaker 1: environmental factors absolutely do you know have an effect on
Speaker 1: taste and smell over time for the long haul. Not
Speaker 1: to mention, I've heard of people having long COVID you know,
Speaker 1: or and having some of those changes to their smell
Speaker 1: and taste stick around and think like maybe it's you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't like it's not like you can't smell or taste.
Speaker 1: But I have heard cases of people saying it never
Speaker 1: fully came back and now they've got like deficient sniffer
Speaker 1: and uh and taste, but um one even more broccoli
Speaker 1: mentioned as well is the idea of maybe kids are
Speaker 1: tasting things like impurities. Maybe kids are actually because they've
Speaker 1: got this like fresh new, you know, right off the
Speaker 1: lot tongue. You know, they can taste like things like
Speaker 1: chemical pollutants, perhaps um or like a lot of produce
Speaker 1: and things. They don't taste the way they did originally
Speaker 1: because they've changed, Like you know what they talk about
Speaker 1: the way of banana taste now versus what a banana
Speaker 1: used to taste like. And that's a lot of that's
Speaker 1: as a result of you know, different processes, you know,
Speaker 1: and things like that. I don't know, he's taking out
Speaker 1: all kinds of different species of banana, right And literally
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that there's this like evolutionary mind or
Speaker 1: something that like gets dumb down over time necessarily, but
Speaker 1: I'm interested in, like, I would love to see studies
Speaker 1: as to like how much better kids can taste than adults,
Speaker 1: and if that means that they are able to have
Speaker 1: a if they knew what to connect it to, if
Speaker 1: we could like train a kid to be like a
Speaker 1: super taste like a drug sniffing dog, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. That's not very ethical, I know, but we're
Speaker 1: just talking you know, conceptually here. But I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: this is interesting concept because I think we take for
Speaker 1: granted that the taste isn't something that's just for fun,
Speaker 1: you know, like taste is. It's it's one of our senses,
Speaker 1: and and it really has a lot of connection to
Speaker 1: memory and deep um pathways to the brain, you know. Wha, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it does make me think about the absolute importance of
Speaker 1: taste when you know, early humans are out foraging or
Speaker 1: hunting and tracking animals or figuring out which berry is
Speaker 1: actually edible and the distinct flavor, like I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: visually identifying you know, a berry, being able to taste
Speaker 1: a small sample that berry and know whether that is
Speaker 1: a poisonous one or not. Um, just how important that
Speaker 1: is and how because we survived, because we're still products
Speaker 1: of that same those same lines. We've got some of
Speaker 1: that in us somewhere. Yeah. It's almost like smelling sort
Speaker 1: of the pretest and then tasting sort of the next
Speaker 1: level test, you know what I mean. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully one bad berry wouldn't be enough to kill you, um,
Speaker 1: but you would you would know, hope theoretically from the
Speaker 1: taste but also isn't the deal that a lot of
Speaker 1: those kind of sweet berries they're uh there as as
Speaker 1: a species, you know, as a plant, their defense mechanism
Speaker 1: is to be sweet and to therefore it kind of
Speaker 1: attract the thing that thinks they're the other thing and
Speaker 1: then eats them and dies so they can't eat anymore.
Speaker 1: You know, I know, nature crazy, I'm crazy. I'm imagining
Speaker 1: more broccoli living in some time several several thousand years ago,
Speaker 1: and she's out looking for you know, foods that she
Speaker 1: in her group can eat, and she comes across just
Speaker 1: the best looking ripe, juicy tomato and tastes, takes a
Speaker 1: bite of it and just goes, well, no way never
Speaker 1: But you know there's all those tomatoes. Man, they could
Speaker 1: eaten all those tomatoes, and I'm I'm I'm off my
Speaker 1: tree as we're talking about uh agriculture here, because I
Speaker 1: was exactly the opposite. It would be more the color
Speaker 1: that would that would attract you know, an animal to
Speaker 1: a poisonous berry. But typically berries that are sweet are
Speaker 1: not toxic, and berries that that are really bitter or
Speaker 1: like have you know, a taste that is unpleasant in
Speaker 1: some way are toxic. So that you know, So there,
Speaker 1: that's the thing that would be the next test, right,
Speaker 1: you might visualize and say, oh, that looks nice, that's
Speaker 1: it's it's bright and invite, and then you give it
Speaker 1: a smell and you can't quite tell, and you give
Speaker 1: a little taste. Oh that's bitter. Bitter equals bad. Why
Speaker 1: in terms of survival? How how did cranberries end up
Speaker 1: writing that line just so perfectly? Isn't that the thing? Though, Matt?
Speaker 1: That's kind of what we're getting at in this whole
Speaker 1: conversation is now taste, I think is a lot less
Speaker 1: evolutionarily important in that way. So we can eat bitter things.
Speaker 1: We've evolved maybe too, like nastier quote unquote things or
Speaker 1: things that typically would be like spit out you know,
Speaker 1: by a child or or you know, uh, an antelope,
Speaker 1: because we don't have to worry about that anymore because
Speaker 1: we have other ways to test our food and we're
Speaker 1: not really foraging so much, you know, as a species anymore.
Speaker 1: So anyway, this is a neat one. We can kind
Speaker 1: of go go longer with this one, but I think
Speaker 1: we've about gotten there. What do you think, Matt? Time
Speaker 1: for a little ad break perhaps, Oh, and last thing though, Matt, Um,
Speaker 1: I think we've talked about this definitely. Some of our
Speaker 1: our latter day How Stuff Works podcasts have certainly talked
Speaker 1: about us. But do you know about the concept of
Speaker 1: being a super taster? I do? I know. I know
Speaker 1: it in context for some reason of ice cream, somebody
Speaker 1: who maybe worked for Hoggin DAWs or Ben and Jerry's.
Speaker 1: I remember watching a story on somebody who could taste
Speaker 1: the ice cream and know all of the different components
Speaker 1: that were in it. Uh, it was really interesting. And
Speaker 1: that's probably the same. You know. I think you can
Speaker 1: train again, you can train your brain to kind of
Speaker 1: pick that stuff out. But if you literally have more
Speaker 1: sensitive I keep using the word equipment, then you're going
Speaker 1: to be more predisposed to be able to do that. Um.
Speaker 1: But like Somalia is, for example, who trained themselves to
Speaker 1: be able to taste different aspects of wine? You know,
Speaker 1: and you know things that sometimes come off as pretentious
Speaker 1: and absolutely absurd like and notes, Well, I I think
Speaker 1: there are there are. There is truth to that to
Speaker 1: a degree. Um, if you know what you're you're tasting for.
Speaker 1: But to the average you know, you or me, I'll
Speaker 1: take a bottle of ten buck chuck most of the time.
Speaker 1: But um, you know, and this applies to scent as well,
Speaker 1: with folks that can like really break out all the
Speaker 1: different parts of a perfume, you know, and all the
Speaker 1: different components. So but but if you're interested, if you're
Speaker 1: a supertaster, no, they actually do have I think more
Speaker 1: taste buds or they have like just like the the
Speaker 1: the tongue of the supertaster has taste buds clustered much
Speaker 1: closer together, and they can taste certain tastes much more specifically.
Speaker 1: And there is a way if you go to Scientific
Speaker 1: American dot com you can find out if you are
Speaker 1: a super taster you can actually order this like little
Speaker 1: thing that if you just look a little it looks
Speaker 1: like a little piece of paper kind of I think.
Speaker 1: And if you put it in your mouth and it
Speaker 1: tastes bitter than you, you are a super taster. There's
Speaker 1: there's different ways of going about it, but uh, pretty
Speaker 1: interesting stuff, definitely. Oh well, no, do you want to
Speaker 1: hear about it? No, we should go to a break. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's do it. We're back and we are jumping to
Speaker 1: a message from chef. Hey, guys, what's up. This is
Speaker 1: Chef UM. I recently listened to your classic episode about pyramids,
Speaker 1: really really really cool stuff. I really enjoyed it. Um.
Speaker 1: Something that you guys didn't touch on, and maybe you
Speaker 1: know about it, maybe you don't. But the Azoros Islands
Speaker 1: part of Portugal, it's out in the Atlantic. There are
Speaker 1: underwater pyramids and above land pyramids that looks like they
Speaker 1: were pretty hard to make. Um. There was a guy
Speaker 1: who was refarking them and you got a bunch of
Speaker 1: money from the government, and then the government shut him down.
Speaker 1: There's an underwater pyramid thing and there either even some
Speaker 1: people are saying that it might be like to do
Speaker 1: with the legend of Atlantic. I don't know. Something to
Speaker 1: check out the Adorans Islands and there's just some weird
Speaker 1: stuff going on there. I hope you guys are having
Speaker 1: a great day. Love your show brings me so much joy.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's just nice to hear these pool guys
Speaker 1: talking about pool stuff. Sea man. I love Chef's enthusiasm
Speaker 1: for life. It's it's infectious, like a some sort of
Speaker 1: pleasant plague. It's really good. It's really good. Puts a
Speaker 1: smile on my face. Thank you for calling in and
Speaker 1: saying those things. Yeah. No, it's it's absolutely and infectious,
Speaker 1: like some sort of delightful plague. Um. You know, I
Speaker 1: mean that with with all of love, as as do
Speaker 1: I mean with love when I say I have always heard, uh,
Speaker 1: these particular islands pronounced as the Azores, And I think
Speaker 1: I probably only know that from like watching the shows
Speaker 1: about rich people talking about going on vacation. I think
Speaker 1: it's a popular destination for like rich people Paradise is
Speaker 1: Oh see. You know I have not caught those uh
Speaker 1: those shows or mentions. I didn't know this, so I
Speaker 1: just went right along with Azorus. Uh. I know, I've
Speaker 1: seen it written as the Azorian Regional Government. Uh so
Speaker 1: the way it's written, it makes it feel or like
Speaker 1: it's Azores to me. Yeah, it could be that I'm
Speaker 1: just pronouncing it the way all these jerky rich folks
Speaker 1: do and then they're wrong. Um so who's to say
Speaker 1: but many? Yeah exactly, let's let's find one of them.
Speaker 1: But you had been underwater pyramids, Yes, underwater structures of
Speaker 1: any kind um kind of freaked me out and fascinate me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it speaks to some kind of pre flood civil civilization,
Speaker 1: possibly potentially right, And that's kind of cool that it
Speaker 1: really is the territory of the ancient ones, the ones
Speaker 1: who time forgot um, people who maybe had technology or
Speaker 1: at least the the myths around potential lost technologies and civilizations.
Speaker 1: That it's just fascinated everybody on this show for so long,
Speaker 1: and it's probably fascinated you too. Uh. We did some
Speaker 1: digging in to the potential underwater pyramid in this area,
Speaker 1: and we want to tell you what we found. So
Speaker 1: back in there were several or and actually there were
Speaker 1: several articles posted about a man who had taken his
Speaker 1: boat out to this area in the Azores and was
Speaker 1: looking for potential fishing uh, areas I guess like looking
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the sea the depth right to
Speaker 1: see where there are potential fishing spots and to get
Speaker 1: other information just about the geology of that area. And
Speaker 1: this person saw some weird stuff through the technology where
Speaker 1: you're actually scanning the bottom of the ocean there and
Speaker 1: you're looking at elevation. Uh. He found a thing that
Speaker 1: if you look at the picture and the read out,
Speaker 1: it looks like a pyramid that has submerged underwater like
Speaker 1: sixty down and it's it's got that kind of diamond
Speaker 1: shape with the four corners, and it appears that two
Speaker 1: of the corners are oriented north and south, the way
Speaker 1: the pyramids, the Great Pyramids of Giza are oriented, and
Speaker 1: and other pyramids that are found across the planet. So
Speaker 1: if you're just looking at that image of what he
Speaker 1: saw on the technology he was using to scan the
Speaker 1: sea floor, you'd think maybe this guy found a pyramid
Speaker 1: down at the bottom of the sea. So he went
Speaker 1: on the local news there and told his story. You
Speaker 1: can find a video of that at surfer today dot com.
Speaker 1: They've got an embedded video where you can actually watch
Speaker 1: this person his last name is Silva, and he's speaking
Speaker 1: to some local reporter and going over the footage. You
Speaker 1: can look at it. Um. It does appear that there
Speaker 1: was a lot of interest after this story went out.
Speaker 1: There's public interest. There's also interest from other groups who
Speaker 1: you know, study this stuff all the time. And again,
Speaker 1: if you just look at the footage, it seems compelling. No,
Speaker 1: did you get a chance to look at that at all,
Speaker 1: just to see the picture? Yeah, I'm I'm dialing up
Speaker 1: surfer today right now. Is that that's still one of
Speaker 1: the top of the divers. No, that's not an actual photo.
Speaker 1: If you look at that photo, that is a photoshopped
Speaker 1: comp okay, because that looks really cool. I am. I'm
Speaker 1: scrolling through it and I see the structures as they
Speaker 1: appear on like what looks like kind of one of
Speaker 1: those fishing boats. Uh radar kind of deals right. It
Speaker 1: shows elevation and you can see that it's you know,
Speaker 1: kind of mapping the train and showing that there's a
Speaker 1: structure with a big, you know, flat base that kind
Speaker 1: of goes up to a point like like a pyramid
Speaker 1: because it's degrees. It definitely looks like it right from
Speaker 1: that imagery. If that's all you had, you think that
Speaker 1: could be something. But here's what happened after this news
Speaker 1: story went out and you know, others got interested. We
Speaker 1: can jump to the Portuguese American Journal, which posted something
Speaker 1: on October nine, which pretty unequivocally states, No, this is
Speaker 1: not an underground pyramid. This is a volcano structure that
Speaker 1: this person saw that is known by everybody here. It's
Speaker 1: between the two large islands, Teter Sierra and sal Miguel.
Speaker 1: And you kind of look at the two pictures of
Speaker 1: these on a map, and this volcano structure that they're
Speaker 1: saying is at a depth of about forty meters, like
Speaker 1: the top of it, the part that this person saw,
Speaker 1: it's known, it's been there for a long time. Nothing
Speaker 1: to see here, basically, So I just want to ask you,
Speaker 1: what do you think? Do you think there's nothing to
Speaker 1: see here? Nol? I don't know. Man. Uh that that
Speaker 1: photo shop she got me go? But see, I think
Speaker 1: that's what happened here. A middle structure found by amateur
Speaker 1: sailor not man made uh and Portuguese American journal. Um,
Speaker 1: this is I mean, there's no follow up to this.
Speaker 1: What were you able to find when you when you
Speaker 1: douge a little deeper? Matt, this seems like it's not
Speaker 1: that deep. Can't you just go check it out? Like?
Speaker 1: Where's where is the mystery remaining? Now? You not you personally,
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting you to put on your wet suit
Speaker 1: and then go check it out. But wouldn't there be
Speaker 1: underwater foot photography of it? Now? It seems like the
Speaker 1: locals are saying nothing to see here. Folks, we already
Speaker 1: know what this is. I was wondering, where where is
Speaker 1: the remaining part that's in question? Um, there's really nothing
Speaker 1: that's in question to to my understanding, I think this
Speaker 1: is the kind of thing because of that sensational photo
Speaker 1: that's at the top of this older article. Like you said,
Speaker 1: it's um, it's a it's a stock photo, a couple
Speaker 1: of stock photos that have been smashed together, looks like
Speaker 1: scuba diving photo and a pyramid photo, and they just
Speaker 1: kind of over relate them. You see that. You see
Speaker 1: the headline underwater pyramid. Your mind, you know, your mind
Speaker 1: goes to all kinds of places, and it's something you
Speaker 1: want to talk about, some that you want to share,
Speaker 1: and it's something you don't want to get disappointed about.
Speaker 1: You don't want to be disappointed. Oh, it's just a
Speaker 1: it's a known volcanic mound magic, you know, I know,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's true. I need to and I think
Speaker 1: this this what we're seeing here in real time, is
Speaker 1: this story kind of morphing into being the story maybe
Speaker 1: about a potential underwater pyramid and more a story about
Speaker 1: like how you do need to kind of check your sources,
Speaker 1: not not you call er specifically, but all of us
Speaker 1: because I you heard me in real time, uh, calling
Speaker 1: for the same thing, because I'm like, wait, that's awesome. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm on board. You see that picture and now that
Speaker 1: I'm looking at, don't even closer. It's not even a
Speaker 1: very good photoshop. So it's just a matter we can
Speaker 1: all be taken in by this stuff. You all just
Speaker 1: kind of heard me being taken in by it. I'm
Speaker 1: looking now and there's a really bad textural overlay of
Speaker 1: like bubbles. I mean, it's pretty embarrassing. But you know what,
Speaker 1: let me be the sacrificial lamp here because you know
Speaker 1: how many days a week do we do this stuff.
Speaker 1: We talk about this stuff, and my brain immediately was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: underwater pyramids, let's go. You know, well, I think that's
Speaker 1: the natural reaction, right to anybody who grew up with
Speaker 1: a little bit of mystery being allowed. You know, if
Speaker 1: you're allowed to take your mind to those places, then
Speaker 1: underwater pyramids just makes you go yes, yes, um, but
Speaker 1: you you have to think about it kind of coldly.
Speaker 1: The Azores, it's a series of nine volcanic islands. Okay,
Speaker 1: the this whole area that we're talking about. This is
Speaker 1: another small volcanic not quite island yet, but maybe aspires
Speaker 1: to be an island one day, or maybe it was
Speaker 1: a volcano a long time ago. I I don't know
Speaker 1: the geology behind that particular mound, but you know it
Speaker 1: has the same it has the same potential as all
Speaker 1: the other islands to just pop up above water. That's
Speaker 1: just kind of a boring reality, I guess it is.
Speaker 1: But but I think this is important, especially on the
Speaker 1: heels of our you know, how to be a skeptic episodes,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, this stuff really is import I
Speaker 1: almost just fell for it again. I stopping through on
Speaker 1: Instagram on my phone. Breaking news. The Tibetan monk discovered
Speaker 1: in a mountain cave in Nepal is now considered the
Speaker 1: oldest person in the world at two six years old.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's awesome, and then it goes he was
Speaker 1: found in a state of deep meditation tell Taka TETs.
Speaker 1: Archaeologists first thought he was a mummy, but then noticed
Speaker 1: that he has vital signs and is alive. Among his things,
Speaker 1: they found an old scroll that says I've seen Jerry
Speaker 1: more times than you, and it's on a page called
Speaker 1: Ohio Dead family, what like grateful dead Jerry. I've seen Jerry.
Speaker 1: I mean, but I see this breaking news and there's
Speaker 1: a picture of all these medical people handling this shriveled
Speaker 1: looking monk, and I'm like, yes, monk found in cave,
Speaker 1: the oldest living human. Look, I'm joking a little bit,
Speaker 1: but also like it's it's a thing, you know, It's
Speaker 1: just be vigilant. There's so much there's so much junk
Speaker 1: out there, so so much. But Chef, that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: the other things you were talking about that message are
Speaker 1: necessarily debunked. I don't know anything else about the other
Speaker 1: pyramids in the a SoRs. I don't know this area
Speaker 1: at all. This is literally my first time thinking about
Speaker 1: that place. So we're gonna put our heads into it
Speaker 1: and see if we can find anything that is worth
Speaker 1: everybody's time. It is a weird thing. That guy made
Speaker 1: a discovery that he felt was significant, talked to a reporter,
Speaker 1: That reporter sent it out to everybody, and then it
Speaker 1: became a huge news story for a moment. Right then
Speaker 1: it died down and waited for somebody else to discover
Speaker 1: it through search and then make social media post about it.
Speaker 1: But that's how a lot of things happen. They get
Speaker 1: this second life either as like a meme or as
Speaker 1: whatever it might be. Um because somebody reposted it in
Speaker 1: just the right way. And whereas it used to be
Speaker 1: like you know, people that told tall tales, you know,
Speaker 1: if it was heard by enough people, it might eventually
Speaker 1: get elevated to the level of myth, and then elevated
Speaker 1: to the level of like folklore, and and the difference
Speaker 1: between all those things usually involved more fewer primary sources,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Folklore a lot of time
Speaker 1: is based in ritual and in tradition. But then tall
Speaker 1: tales are kind of like made up stories, you know,
Speaker 1: that then get repeated in the rent in a different
Speaker 1: context and become you know, there's a grain of truth
Speaker 1: to it. And now that's just the Internet. The Internet
Speaker 1: is are like oral and visual tradition now, and it's
Speaker 1: so easy to bark up the wrong tree and just
Speaker 1: start spreading stuff around. Um. The good news is it
Speaker 1: can also be shut down much more quickly. But sometimes
Speaker 1: it gets out of hand and then, you know, as
Speaker 1: Ben often says, nobody reads the retraction. You know, no one,
Speaker 1: no one reads the exoneration. They just they just know
Speaker 1: someone was accused of something or that some crazy thing happened,
Speaker 1: and then they just run with it because everyone's brain again,
Speaker 1: that confirmation buys everyone's brain wants to be right, that
Speaker 1: wants to be the rightest one in the room with
Speaker 1: the best scoops, you know, in the best info. It's
Speaker 1: way more fun to talk about underwater pyramids than it
Speaker 1: is volcanic mounds that are just chilling down below the water.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, just life, man. We got so many
Speaker 1: voicemails and we're not going to get to today. Um yeah.
Speaker 1: We always kind of like, ah, you need like ten
Speaker 1: of them, you know. But then the guys are so
Speaker 1: fascinating that we just can babble on about, you know,
Speaker 1: and if it was all three of us, it would
Speaker 1: have gone even longer. Uh. That's that's the point. We
Speaker 1: just we love hearing from you and your stories, and
Speaker 1: it really kind of just makes us feel like we're
Speaker 1: part of a community, you know, and we hope it
Speaker 1: makes you feel the same way. No, I want, or
Speaker 1: if you wouldn't mind, if we could close with a
Speaker 1: it's not a discussion. I just want you to hear
Speaker 1: what Nick said, and then we can then we can
Speaker 1: end the episode. Hey guys, long time listener, first time caller.
Speaker 1: My name is Nick. Um. I was listening to one
Speaker 1: of your shows back from September. You're about I think
Speaker 1: a strange news animal attacks. You guys are talking about
Speaker 1: a turkey attack on an old man. Well, we're gonna
Speaker 1: assume he's old, because how else do you'll break hips
Speaker 1: with turkeys. But you said something about that turkeys can't fly.
Speaker 1: That's not true. Turkeys can fly just fine. Wild turkeys
Speaker 1: will fly fifty six ft into a tree to roost
Speaker 1: at nighttime, and they're capable going straight vertically up like
Speaker 1: any other bird. It's really impressive. And second, when a
Speaker 1: bunch of males get into a group, you know they're
Speaker 1: called Jake's when they're young and Tom's when they're a
Speaker 1: little bit older, they can get pretty aggressive. And on
Speaker 1: top of that, they have on the back of each
Speaker 1: heel a little bit above their feet what are called spurs.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever seen them. Are a wooster,
Speaker 1: they may have a character in like fingernails, but they're
Speaker 1: basically a giant knife on the back of their feet.
Speaker 1: So what they do is they jump up flop, which
Speaker 1: is intimidating, but they come down on their enemies I
Speaker 1: guess with their spurs, and they can they can cut
Speaker 1: you up pretty good. I know this as a turkey hunter,
Speaker 1: that's really it. But yeah, they're actually really impressive and
Speaker 1: they can be pretty intimidating because they don't give up.
Speaker 1: You can take a turkey, but they'll come right back
Speaker 1: at you like they're not going to give up. They
Speaker 1: don't just go away. You don't have to get away
Speaker 1: from him. And they're scary. You know the bird, they
Speaker 1: had something that big come at you. It's pretty freaking scary.
Speaker 1: But anyway, thanks guys, love the show, all right, thanks
Speaker 1: by cool cool cool cool. I'm sorry, No, we don't
Speaker 1: have to do this, na man nah man nah, I
Speaker 1: don't like any of that one bit. I'm sorry. We
Speaker 1: got we got knife foot knife rooster, the turkey guys
Speaker 1: now coming at me from the trees, dive bombing on me.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. This is designed for my nightmare. Yeah
Speaker 1: also the group. So, I mean, I know we've talked
Speaker 1: about this and I'm really only barely playing up my
Speaker 1: fear here because it's definitely abated over time. Like I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna like run away from like a bird. But
Speaker 1: I was once chased by a rooster. I did not
Speaker 1: want to be caught. But turkeys are so beefy. Man,
Speaker 1: they're so like, oh if they if they can't imagine
Speaker 1: just getting bombed by a turkey out of a tree
Speaker 1: with it flipping its knife heels at you. I mean no,
Speaker 1: I would I would go catatonic. Okay, you would have
Speaker 1: to I would like, yeah, Now, it would take a
Speaker 1: lot to pull me out of that FuG state. I
Speaker 1: could tell you, well, maybe if they didn't think you
Speaker 1: were a threat, they would cease their attacking, their their knife.
Speaker 1: I guess me. I would just I would like to think.
Speaker 1: I can't say. Um, I would like to think I
Speaker 1: would just go limp and just play dead. I would
Speaker 1: probably be dead. I would probably die of shock if
Speaker 1: that were to happen to me. There you go. Nick said,
Speaker 1: LA have some sweet dreams. Tonaa. Sorry, No, I sometimes
Speaker 1: wake up thinking there are turkeys. I'nder my covers and yeah,
Speaker 1: well all right, uh um, I don't. I don't want
Speaker 1: to torture you know, I I just it. Yeah, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gleeful. Laughter belies your true here what you just said.
Speaker 1: You say you say the most wonderful things when when
Speaker 1: you're in that state and it just brings me creature
Speaker 1: you I do I will cook the hell out of
Speaker 1: a turkey. That's right. That's how you get revenge. That's
Speaker 1: how I take back my agency. I got a real knife, okay,
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