1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: production of My Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Null. Our compatriot 6 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: Ben is a way on on adventures what he would 7 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: call adventures, and we would incur our in fact adventures. Ah, 8 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: and that makes this a slightly different version of stuff 9 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: they don't want you to know. It feels weird, always does, 10 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: always does when Ben is gone. But hey, guess what. 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: As always we're joined by our superproducer, Paul Mission controlled decant. 12 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: You are still you and you're apparently right here, So 13 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: that makes this stuff they don't want you to know. 14 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: Can I still be me? Uh? Don't answer that. Let's 15 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: put a pin in that one. This is fun that 16 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: we've done this before when Ben's been away on adventures 17 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: where we this is not a typical day of the 18 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: week where you would normally hear our listener mail episode. 19 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: But you know what, we don't believe in calendars here 20 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: and stuff they don't want you to know. We throw 21 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: those things out because it's all it's all sham anyway, 22 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: if you've listened to our recent episode on calendars, Uh, 23 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna do a listener mail episode today. But it's 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: different because you may notice that in our typical weekly 25 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: listener mail episodes we sort of do a smattering of 26 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: of missives from various sources, you know, from the internet, 27 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: but today we're doing only voice driven missives a k a. Voicemails. Yes, 28 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: it's over explaining this very simple concept that we're doing. 29 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: That's correct. It's oops all voicemails today on stuff they 30 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: don't want you to know. And it's mostly a function 31 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: of us just having so many of these great messages 32 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: and we still have seventy five right now as we 33 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: were warning that we haven't even listened to yet. Oh boy, 34 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: that's okay. Today we're gonna hear from Daniel Moore, broccoli 35 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: chef and Nick. Okay, here we go. Hey, guys, my 36 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: name is Daniel, love your show. I'm calling up about 37 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: the weird bit of news and the warehouse fire. I 38 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: am in the very tiny bit of the Zen diagram 39 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: of people who worked actually designing and building fire suppression 40 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: systems for warehouses, and a person who listens to your show. 41 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: So here's what I can tell you about warehouse fires 42 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: and fire suppression systems. I talked to the lead project 43 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: manager and architects for our company, and he said, it 44 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: is virtually impossible to have a warehouse without a fire 45 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: suppression system. The only way he could think of is 46 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: somebody building their own warehouse out in the middle of Montana. 47 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: So New York City, it's going to have a fire 48 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: suppression system. There are two kinds of fire suppression systems. 49 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: There is E s f our early suppression fast response systems, 50 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: which were meant to put out the entire fire. Then 51 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: there's non s f R those are meant to contain 52 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: the fire until the fireman show up. Now, it's not 53 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: to say that any s FR system will always put 54 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: out the fire, and it's not to say that ann 55 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: E s FR fire system won't put out a fire. 56 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: It just depends. Um. The second thing, talked to the 57 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: president of the company and explain the situation to him 58 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: and explaining, you know, lithium batteries, motorcycles and stuff like 59 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: that and a lot of paper, and his response was 60 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: that ship's going to burn, so, um, yeah, it could 61 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: easily be an E S fr system and of course 62 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: being in Texas. His one thing was once I started 63 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: listening things, he's looked me and said, oh and ammo. 64 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, there was probably some ammunition in that warehouse. 65 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: So that's my two bits on the warehouse fire. Um, 66 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: good show, Look forward is listening to more episodes take 67 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: Care of Daniel. Oh my gosh, Okay, we really talk 68 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: much about that. Uh and when we when we discussed 69 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: this is obviously a where have I under any old warehouse, 70 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: a massive warehouse compound housing evidence, you know, for presumably 71 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: an entire borough of New York, or maybe even greater 72 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: than that, maybe for the whole city. I'm not quite 73 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: sure how that works. Yes, it is a This is 74 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: a story we did on Strange News about a very 75 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: large warehouse in New York that burnt. There's a huge 76 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: fire there. It had a lot of evidence inside of it. 77 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: It was run or owned I guess by a company 78 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 1: called the Eerie Basin Marine Associates. That's the whole warehouse itself, 79 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: and then the police department use some portion of that 80 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: to store evidence, meaning they're like leasing it from the owners. 81 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: Um I suppose, so, yeah, they're leasing it that the 82 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: landlord was eerie based in marine associates UM and you know, 83 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: just hearing this information from David, learning about E s 84 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: f R and non E s f R, I'm thinking 85 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: about specifically E s FR systems like the large overhead 86 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: sprinklers that you may see if you maybe live in 87 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: an apartment complex. Many of those have uh kind of 88 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: the older sprinkler systems that will physically just shoot water 89 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: on everything. There are other versions of that that have 90 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: this really cool foam that which some of that foam, 91 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: by the way, we've talked about it before on this show, 92 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: has some of those p f A s chemicals in 93 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 1: it um. That's one of the reasons it's it functions 94 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: so well as a fire retardant or it stops the fire, 95 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: which is a creepy thing to think about, just getting 96 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: forever chemicals all in or foam and then getting the 97 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: foam on everything, including on the people, uh you know 98 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: they are in the warehouse when the fire starts. UM. 99 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: But those those would make total sense, and it feels 100 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: like either of those systems would have stopped that fire 101 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: really no matter what was burning in there, or at 102 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: least you know, slowed it down enough to where the 103 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: as David said, the fire department gets there then puts 104 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: the fire out. Um, but it doesn't seem like anything happened. 105 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: And then, guys, I found some reporting from the I 106 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: team at Channel four NBC in New York. Uh. They 107 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: put out something on December twenty after we had recorded 108 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: that episode, and it's specifically about fire safety violations sprinkler 109 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: system violations that Eerie Basin Marine Associates had over the 110 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: course of one UH, and it may be the reason 111 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: why the fire got out of control and why everything 112 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: burned instead of it stopped being h Listen to this 113 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: nor they had at least seventeen fire safety infractions in 114 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: so that's failure to test, inspect, or certify sprinkler systems. Yeah, 115 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: so a little bit more on the negligent tip than 116 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: perhaps the conspiratorial you know, it was an inside job tip. 117 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: But I also when looking this stuff because I'm fascinated too, 118 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: because in my head I was also thinking about, like 119 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: what about firewalls, you know, like like things that separate 120 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: different areas of a building, uh and make it where 121 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: you like compartments on the Titanic, which obviously those didn't 122 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: work really well either, But the idea is to keep 123 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: the fire from spreading. But then you picture a warehouse. 124 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: It's all pretty open, usually with like palette racks and 125 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: things like that stacking you know, upward. But then you 126 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: picture again, I'm I'm thinking about like assault on precinct 127 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: Precinct thirteen, breaking bad and you know heights and things 128 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: I've seen around police departments. UH. Usually those type of 129 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: evident storage facilities are more cordoned off and have you know, 130 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: separated you know, parts between them. So you'd think there 131 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: would be some manner of slow burning material that would 132 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: keep the fire from spreading so quickly. That would make sense, 133 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: and I imagine that, Yeah, if you had something like 134 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: that in place those firewalls you're talking about, you could 135 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: at least prevent it from getting to the next warehouse. Right, Um, 136 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: should be great. I did find an article because now 137 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, you got going down this rabbit hole for 138 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: the from the National Fire Protection Association n f p 139 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: A is a thing headline from November of unique fire 140 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: protection challenges found in warehouse distribution centers. According to the 141 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: n f p A, UH, warehouse fires happened kind of 142 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: a lot, kind of an alarming amount, with with one thousand, 143 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: four hundred and ten warehouse fires, two deaths, twenty injuries, 144 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: and in estimated one hundred and fifty nine point four 145 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: million indirect property damage every year. UM, And and nobody 146 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: wants that, you know, I mean, especially again, you wouldn't 147 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: think necessarily unless it was an insurance scam that people 148 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: would be negligent about warehouses holding you know, stuff that 149 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: you sell to like make money. But still just the same, 150 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: many of those do go up in flames, as it 151 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: turns out, more than one might think. So the scope 152 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: of the destruction, though, does make me scratch my head 153 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: a little bit. Right, it wasn't it like a complete 154 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: loss basically? Or you know what I can't yet. I 155 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: can't find an update to the story where the NYPD 156 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: is saying here's what was lost, here's what wasn't lost 157 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: in all of that. We half that somebody's job is 158 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: the catalog all of that stuff and make notes and 159 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: make a tick and a ledger for destroyed and fire. 160 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: You know. But what I can find is the statements 161 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: from the f d N Y Fire marshals because it's 162 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: still under investigation, UM just saying yes, we're continuing to 163 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: assess the damage caused by their fire and an update 164 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: will be quote available in the future. Um, there were 165 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: a couple other things I just wanted to bring up here. 166 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: An f d n Y spokesperson said, quote the warehouse 167 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: is sprinklered throughout, so like this one that caught on 168 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: fire does have sprinklers, and the sprinklers activated, but the 169 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: fire spread too quickly. And one of the points they're 170 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: making about this, and I think it speaks to what 171 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: David's talking about. When you're thinking about the layout of 172 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: a warehouse, like you said, it's just a big open 173 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: space often maybe with a few rooms in between, but 174 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: largely open space. The sprinkler layout needs to be modified 175 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: to how you've got things stacked in there, what types 176 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: of materials are stored in what areas. So that's a 177 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: tough that's a tough ask to like change the sprinkler 178 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: system around unless you've got, you know, a version where 179 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: you can easily change out head and where the water 180 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: is actually gonna come down. And the reason I asked 181 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: about the whole leasing situation is typically you think of 182 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: like government entities, you know, like the police department or whatever, 183 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: owning their own building in a space that was built 184 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: like for that express purpose, but we know budget cuts 185 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: and things like that might potentially cause them to have 186 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: to use a pre existing place maybe isn't exactly intended 187 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: for this, and do it quickly and get all that 188 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: stuff in there and make it, you know, make do 189 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: the best they possibly can. But no, sprinklers aren't exactly 190 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: something you can just kind of move around there. Their 191 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: pipes and they terminate, you know, water sources. You've got 192 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: to rerun them or like customize them. Well, yeah, so theoretically, 193 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: what you would do, as the tenant is you would 194 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: stack up the things that are more flammable and more 195 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: at risk in the areas where there's more coverage from 196 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: the sprinklers. Right, it would be on you then. But 197 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: it appears that those two things just were out of sync. 198 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: It wasn't there a thing though, where they were like 199 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: a lot of combustible like batteries to like like scooters 200 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: or electric bikes or something like that, And that was 201 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: a big part of the problem. Yeah, there were there 202 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: were numerous heavy metals that ended up catching on fire 203 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: due to some of the stuff that was kept there 204 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: at the pound. Remember fleet of hoverboards that was an 205 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: issue here. I don't think so. I don't think those 206 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 1: got hit. I think it was mostly lime scooters. No, 207 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm just joking. I don't know what it was. Um. Yeah, 208 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: but we we don't have an inventory list here, but 209 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: just with this one, I just wanted to point out 210 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: there's no I don't have an update yet. I don't 211 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: have more information on what cases are actually going to 212 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: be affected. It's a lot of reporting about the potential 213 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: of many cases being affected. Uh. And that did happen 214 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: in mid December. I wasn't well, I'm sorry, what was 215 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: it on site? But I was in New York and somebody, 216 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: some local uh mentioned that this was, like, you know, 217 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: being we're order on the local news and then they 218 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: knew where this place was, and it was like, you know, 219 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: it was kind of alarming. Maybe no, I know what 220 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: it was. It was when you you weren't with us, unfortunately, 221 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: because but but Ben and I went to New York 222 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: to do the Elvis Durand show and you had some 223 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: family stuff. You couldn't make it. And it was one 224 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: of the guys at Elvis Duran because he was interested 225 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: in the show and he thought it'd be something that 226 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: we would have a take on and he was like, 227 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: oh my god, did you just hear about this? You know? 228 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: And so his immediate thought was, you know, that's where 229 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: the mind does tend to go when you hear warehouse 230 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: full of evidence destroyed, because again, my mind always goes 231 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: back to that breaking bad uh sequence where they are 232 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: trying to get one piece of evidence out of of 233 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: the you know, this lock up, which is basically impenetrable. 234 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: In order to get there, they have to destroy everything 235 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: because that's the only way, because you can't really get in. 236 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: It's the only way to make sure that your thing 237 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: isn't used against somebody or you or some you know, 238 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: one of your associates, is to destroy the whole thing. Geez, yeah, 239 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: I remember when we talked about that, go full destruction. 240 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: If you wanted to take out one piece of evidence, 241 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: that's nuts. Well, hey, David, thank you so much for 242 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: calling giving us that info and for speaking to all 243 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: the people you spoke to about this. That was very cool. 244 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: You didn't have to do that, and we appreciate it. 245 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: I just thought it's something kind of clever. I'm gonna 246 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: pat myself on the back of this one. Do you 247 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: want to find a needle in a haystack, burned down 248 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: the haystack. Oh snap, just saying how hot is the 249 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: fire gonna get? Is it gonna melt Is it gonna 250 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: melt down? Metal? I don't think so. I don't think so. 251 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Brilliant all right, And with that, 252 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break, but we'll be right 253 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: back with more oops. All voicemails, and we're back with 254 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: more oops. Left a voice man, Yes we are okay, 255 00:14:55,120 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: we definitely are brittany and here we go says is 256 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: this a britty story? It's not at all. I just 257 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: that was the closest those those. Yeah. Sorry, I want 258 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: to learn about this tomato experiment, the famous tomato, the 259 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: masload tomato experience of of of of nineteen seven. Yes, no, 260 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: more like of nineteen one. Uh yeah, let's let's get 261 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: right to it. This is fun. Hey guys, it's more 262 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: broccoli calling you. I have an identical tomato experience as 263 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: Noel does, from you know, being forced to eat this 264 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: life from someone and my aunt in the family, and 265 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: it was, you know, the best tomato, and they just 266 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: were convinced that if I tried the absolute best of 267 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: the thing that I hate that I would love it 268 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: or whatever at least appreciate it, which of course I 269 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: did not, And I also proceeded to throw up, and 270 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: they never made me do it again. But for the 271 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: most part, I'm totally great with tomatoes. Now. You know 272 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: that this happened with blueberries when I was a kid. 273 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: You know, once I threw up the thing that they 274 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: knew I hated and didn't want to eat that they've 275 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: been making me eat, then I never had to eat 276 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: it again once the revergitation happened, which you know, I 277 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: bet you we're able to like make it happen because 278 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: that's like psychological damage as a kid. So it makes 279 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: sense that, like we would, our bodies would align with 280 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: our brain and result like our bodies. Like, yeah, I'm 281 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: on board with the brain. Screw your family. I'm gonna 282 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: pursness up. See if you want me to burst all 283 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: up again when it's good food, you're not gonna want 284 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: to waste it on me. See, there is evolutionary logic 285 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: for it. There isn't. Like studies indicate that like children 286 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: can taste things like bitterness, perhaps more than adult can, 287 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: so like to some extent, like when kids don't want 288 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: to eat vegetables that maybe they're detecting. Can't maybe more serious? 289 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: Hys fact? Oh man, okay, where to where to start? 290 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: That is More Broccoli a k a. Stephanie, and I 291 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: hear her voice more than most other people on our 292 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: voicemail machine. So shout out to you more Broccoli. Oh 293 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: I think she's called in before, if I'm not mistaken. 294 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah. We hear from More Broccoli all 295 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: the time. She calls in, probably more than anybody else 296 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: out there. There are a few of you you know 297 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: who you are calling a lot, but this is the 298 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: except you and non you don't know who you are yet. 299 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: But she's called in. This is like the third or 300 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: fourth time we've used More Broccoli on the air. All right, 301 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: thank you More Broccoli for sharing your trauma with me, 302 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: because you're right, it was. It was psychologically traumatic because 303 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: any you know, I mean as you know um, anytime 304 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, being words to eat something that you're body 305 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: and your brain are literally like recoiling from um is 306 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: not good. Is It can be a real shock to 307 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: the system. And uh it is such a parental I 308 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: know best thing to say. No, this is the best 309 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: one of this and therefore you will instantly change your 310 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: perspective if you just listen to me and do the thing. 311 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: Uh And and I'm the first to say that as 312 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: a parent, you know, with a picky eater for a kid, 313 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: I think that way too. Sometimes it's just not how 314 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: it works, because you know, different people have different sensitivities 315 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: to texture. For example, sometimes it's not even about taste. 316 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: It's about texture, you know, or it's about like, you know, 317 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: something that's too squishy, or if it's too whatever, any 318 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: any of these kind of like adjectives. Like meally that 319 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: one grosses me out too. I think it's overwhelmingly about texture, 320 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: and I still have some of that, some aversions to 321 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 1: certain things and foods because of what the texture is like. 322 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: But it is very interesting how that um texture preference 323 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: changes as you travel throughout the world and go to 324 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: different parts of the world, and then completely different textures 325 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: or normalized and then other ones that I really like 326 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: our weirdest heck, but also it's weird, like my kid 327 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: doesn't like creamy sauces for example, on pasta, but likes 328 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: macaroni and cheese. You know, what could be a creamy 329 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: or sauce than like, you know, Kraft macaroni and cheese, 330 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: or even that she likes. He prefers the kind that 331 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: comes out of the bag, the you know, the velvita, 332 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: the shells, the kind of it's like pre mix and 333 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: this like bizarre creamy paste. It's a gloop. And but 334 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: my point is, though it's a lot of it is 335 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: framed by psychology, a lot of it is framed by 336 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: like how you interpret the thing. You know. It's like 337 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: some people only like food if it's in a certain shape, 338 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: like if it's in a case of dilla versus if 339 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: it's in a bowl on its own. You know, you 340 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: need some kind of rapper. And I think that's true 341 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: of a lot of things, like not to be too 342 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: much of a stretch, but like even ideas, you know, 343 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: it's a lot easy or to to accept something if 344 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: it's kind of wrapped in like a nice pastry shell. 345 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: You know. Like actually we talked about this the other 346 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: day in our episode about um, you know, helping people, 347 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: you know, kind of talk to folks with very very 348 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: different opinions. Is sometimes you've got to sneak those veggies 349 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: in the conversation in order to uh, to get you know, 350 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: the nutrients needed to the to the person who is 351 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: just already predecided they don't want them. But um, this 352 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: call from from more broccoli also made me think about 353 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: just how taste buds and our sense of taste is 354 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: also a product of evolution too, because you know, as 355 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: as we've evolved, it's like taste is much more of 356 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: a luxury than it is like a way of detecting 357 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: bad will this will kill you, you know. So now 358 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 1: it's like you that's itchy because it tastes like you know, 359 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: broccoli or whatever, instead of like, oh I I taste 360 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: in an herb or or some sort of ingredient or 361 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: substance that if I eat too much of it it 362 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: will kill me, you know. Um, So it's like taste, 363 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: you know, like any sense we've it's kind of been 364 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: repurposed in a lot of ways. And now, you know, 365 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: as you get older, you you lose some taste buds, 366 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: and your taste buds maybe get a little duller um, 367 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: and but they also we kind of feed them in 368 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: different ways, Like when you get older, you might lose 369 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: your sweet tooth, but you might really really like like 370 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: kim che or something that you know, maybe a small 371 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: child might just be too overwhelming, you know, in terms 372 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: of the kind of funky spiciness of it all. And 373 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: then we get older, you create that. But I like 374 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: your cultural perspective on this too, Mad, I'd love to 375 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: explore that a little deeper, because in Korea, I'm sure 376 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: they feed small kids kim chi, and it's all this 377 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: about acclimating, you know, like from a from an early 378 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: age and what you get used to America, we feed 379 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: kids pablum and kind of flavorless crap. I mean, many 380 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: times it becomes, oh, I'm sorry, kid, you don't like 381 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: the way that tastes. We don't have any other foods, 382 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: so exactly, don't eat I guess until you're ready to 383 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: eat the raw tomatoes. Yeah right, So I have gotten 384 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: past it to a degree. I still would never in 385 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: a million years on purpose eat a tomato on its own, 386 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: but I like it on a burger. I like it 387 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: on a club sandwich, you know, seasoned. But yeah, the 388 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: thing if I ate a raw tomato right now, um less. 389 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: So with cherry tomatoes, I find they're they're a little 390 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: sweeter or something, but it's got a thing to it 391 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: that I just don't love on its own. And I 392 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: can imagine as a kid with more perhaps sensitive buds, 393 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: that that thing that I still don't kind of love 394 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: would have just been all encompassing and just kind of 395 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: knocked me on my ass and made me literally vomit 396 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: all over the lovely tray of tomatoes that my mother prepared, 397 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: you know, the best of the season. That's whatever seems 398 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: like too many tomatoes. Yeah, it was a platter, And 399 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: like the I didn't let the look of him either. 400 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, tomatoes have always kind of but 401 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: I love and always have, and same with like kids. 402 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: You know, spaghetti. Every kid loves spaghetti because it's got 403 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: a lot of sugar in it. It's got like things 404 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: in it that offset the natural taste. It's ketchup. Doesn't 405 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,239 Speaker 1: taste like it's tomato has ever been anywhere near it, 406 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: you know? And yet Ben and I did an episode 407 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: on Catchup on Ridiculous History and real you know hines Ketchup. 408 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: I said, I bet there's not even any tomato in 409 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: that stuff. There is. It's all cooked down with a 410 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: lot of sugar and special spices and stuff to the 411 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: point where it's kind of been transformed into something that 412 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: really has no relationship to its tomato, even if that's 413 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: like what's in it. I want to go back to 414 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: this evolutionary thing, the concept of our taste buds for 415 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: some for some reason or somehow being um desensitized to 416 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: a lot of things and losing inability to detect that 417 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: which might harm us. I'm just thinking about the the 418 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: stuff that ends up in many of our processed foods 419 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: that we consume on a regular basis, in many of 420 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: even the fresh foods. If you, you know, think about 421 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: um instances of high levels of mercury within specific types 422 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: of fish, right or you know when there were those 423 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: massive oil spills and people were still eating Gulf shrimp 424 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: that we're coming out of the you know, from the 425 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: bottom of the ocean where all that stuff that the 426 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: dispersant and the oil was all just on the bottom 427 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: where all of the crustaceans were hanging out. And I 428 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: don't know, it just it wears me out because I 429 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: can't tell you to mention microplastics, yeah, in the forever chemicals. 430 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:49,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't taste that stuff. I don't know 431 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: when it's going into my body. But I guarantee you 432 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: my bacteria that lives within me, in my stomach and 433 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: my intestines knows when it gets in there well. And 434 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: and that that's the thing that I think is interesting 435 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: to do is like, is our equipment being dulled over 436 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: time where we can't maybe taste more nuanced things in 437 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: terms of the actual you know, how the sensors of 438 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: our tongues, you know, none of our taste buds are 439 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: are functioning. But it's also a relationship to our brain, 440 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: right because we can our brain allows us to pick 441 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: out more nuanced things even if our equipment is a 442 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: little adult because especially you know, things like cigarette smoking 443 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: for example, uh, chemical pollutants uh and and various you know, 444 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: environmental factors absolutely do you know have an effect on 445 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: taste and smell over time for the long haul. Not 446 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: to mention, I've heard of people having long COVID you know, 447 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: or and having some of those changes to their smell 448 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: and taste stick around and think like maybe it's you know, 449 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't like it's not like you can't smell or taste. 450 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: But I have heard cases of people saying it never 451 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: fully came back and now they've got like deficient sniffer 452 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: and uh and taste, but um one even more broccoli 453 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: mentioned as well is the idea of maybe kids are 454 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: tasting things like impurities. Maybe kids are actually because they've 455 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: got this like fresh new, you know, right off the 456 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: lot tongue. You know, they can taste like things like 457 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: chemical pollutants, perhaps um or like a lot of produce 458 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: and things. They don't taste the way they did originally 459 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: because they've changed, Like you know what they talk about 460 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: the way of banana taste now versus what a banana 461 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: used to taste like. And that's a lot of that's 462 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: as a result of you know, different processes, you know, 463 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: and things like that. I don't know, he's taking out 464 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: all kinds of different species of banana, right And literally 465 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that there's this like evolutionary mind or 466 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: something that like gets dumb down over time necessarily, but 467 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: I'm interested in, like, I would love to see studies 468 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: as to like how much better kids can taste than adults, 469 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: and if that means that they are able to have 470 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: a if they knew what to connect it to, if 471 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: we could like train a kid to be like a 472 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: super taste like a drug sniffing dog, you know what 473 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: I mean. That's not very ethical, I know, but we're 474 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: just talking you know, conceptually here. But I don't know, man, 475 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: this is interesting concept because I think we take for 476 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: granted that the taste isn't something that's just for fun, 477 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: you know, like taste is. It's it's one of our senses, 478 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: and and it really has a lot of connection to 479 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: memory and deep um pathways to the brain, you know. Wha, yeah, yeah, 480 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: it does make me think about the absolute importance of 481 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: taste when you know, early humans are out foraging or 482 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: hunting and tracking animals or figuring out which berry is 483 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: actually edible and the distinct flavor, like I mean, obviously 484 00:27:55,280 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: visually identifying you know, a berry, being able to taste 485 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: a small sample that berry and know whether that is 486 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: a poisonous one or not. Um, just how important that 487 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: is and how because we survived, because we're still products 488 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: of that same those same lines. We've got some of 489 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: that in us somewhere. Yeah. It's almost like smelling sort 490 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: of the pretest and then tasting sort of the next 491 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: level test, you know what I mean. And uh, you know, 492 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: hopefully one bad berry wouldn't be enough to kill you, um, 493 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 1: but you would you would know, hope theoretically from the 494 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: taste but also isn't the deal that a lot of 495 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: those kind of sweet berries they're uh there as as 496 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: a species, you know, as a plant, their defense mechanism 497 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: is to be sweet and to therefore it kind of 498 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: attract the thing that thinks they're the other thing and 499 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: then eats them and dies so they can't eat anymore. 500 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: You know, I know, nature crazy, I'm crazy. I'm imagining 501 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: more broccoli living in some time several several thousand years ago, 502 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: and she's out looking for you know, foods that she 503 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: in her group can eat, and she comes across just 504 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: the best looking ripe, juicy tomato and tastes, takes a 505 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: bite of it and just goes, well, no way never 506 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: But you know there's all those tomatoes. Man, they could 507 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: eaten all those tomatoes, and I'm I'm I'm off my 508 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: tree as we're talking about uh agriculture here, because I 509 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: was exactly the opposite. It would be more the color 510 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: that would that would attract you know, an animal to 511 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: a poisonous berry. But typically berries that are sweet are 512 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: not toxic, and berries that that are really bitter or 513 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: like have you know, a taste that is unpleasant in 514 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: some way are toxic. So that you know, So there, 515 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: that's the thing that would be the next test, right, 516 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: you might visualize and say, oh, that looks nice, that's 517 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: it's it's bright and invite, and then you give it 518 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: a smell and you can't quite tell, and you give 519 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: a little taste. Oh that's bitter. Bitter equals bad. Why 520 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: in terms of survival? How how did cranberries end up 521 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: writing that line just so perfectly? Isn't that the thing? Though, Matt? 522 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: That's kind of what we're getting at in this whole 523 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: conversation is now taste, I think is a lot less 524 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: evolutionarily important in that way. So we can eat bitter things. 525 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: We've evolved maybe too, like nastier quote unquote things or 526 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: things that typically would be like spit out you know, 527 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: by a child or or you know, uh, an antelope, 528 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: because we don't have to worry about that anymore because 529 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: we have other ways to test our food and we're 530 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: not really foraging so much, you know, as a species anymore. 531 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: So anyway, this is a neat one. We can kind 532 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: of go go longer with this one, but I think 533 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: we've about gotten there. What do you think, Matt? Time 534 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: for a little ad break perhaps, Oh, and last thing though, Matt, Um, 535 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: I think we've talked about this definitely. Some of our 536 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: our latter day How Stuff Works podcasts have certainly talked 537 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: about us. But do you know about the concept of 538 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: being a super taster? I do? I know. I know 539 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: it in context for some reason of ice cream, somebody 540 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: who maybe worked for Hoggin DAWs or Ben and Jerry's. 541 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: I remember watching a story on somebody who could taste 542 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: the ice cream and know all of the different components 543 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: that were in it. Uh, it was really interesting. And 544 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: that's probably the same. You know. I think you can 545 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: train again, you can train your brain to kind of 546 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: pick that stuff out. But if you literally have more 547 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: sensitive I keep using the word equipment, then you're going 548 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: to be more predisposed to be able to do that. Um. 549 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: But like Somalia is, for example, who trained themselves to 550 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: be able to taste different aspects of wine? You know, 551 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: and you know things that sometimes come off as pretentious 552 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: and absolutely absurd like and notes, Well, I I think 553 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: there are there are. There is truth to that to 554 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: a degree. Um, if you know what you're you're tasting for. 555 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: But to the average you know, you or me, I'll 556 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: take a bottle of ten buck chuck most of the time. 557 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: But um, you know, and this applies to scent as well, 558 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: with folks that can like really break out all the 559 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: different parts of a perfume, you know, and all the 560 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: different components. So but but if you're interested, if you're 561 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: a supertaster, no, they actually do have I think more 562 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: taste buds or they have like just like the the 563 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: the tongue of the supertaster has taste buds clustered much 564 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: closer together, and they can taste certain tastes much more specifically. 565 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: And there is a way if you go to Scientific 566 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,719 Speaker 1: American dot com you can find out if you are 567 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: a super taster you can actually order this like little 568 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: thing that if you just look a little it looks 569 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,719 Speaker 1: like a little piece of paper kind of I think. 570 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: And if you put it in your mouth and it 571 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: tastes bitter than you, you are a super taster. There's 572 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: there's different ways of going about it, but uh, pretty 573 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: interesting stuff, definitely. Oh well, no, do you want to 574 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: hear about it? No, we should go to a break. Okay, 575 00:32:51,160 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: let's do it. We're back and we are jumping to 576 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: a message from chef. Hey, guys, what's up. This is 577 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: Chef UM. I recently listened to your classic episode about pyramids, 578 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: really really really cool stuff. I really enjoyed it. Um. 579 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: Something that you guys didn't touch on, and maybe you 580 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: know about it, maybe you don't. But the Azoros Islands 581 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: part of Portugal, it's out in the Atlantic. There are 582 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: underwater pyramids and above land pyramids that looks like they 583 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: were pretty hard to make. Um. There was a guy 584 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: who was refarking them and you got a bunch of 585 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: money from the government, and then the government shut him down. 586 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: There's an underwater pyramid thing and there either even some 587 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: people are saying that it might be like to do 588 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: with the legend of Atlantic. I don't know. Something to 589 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: check out the Adorans Islands and there's just some weird 590 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: stuff going on there. I hope you guys are having 591 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: a great day. Love your show brings me so much joy. 592 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's just nice to hear these pool guys 593 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: talking about pool stuff. Sea man. I love Chef's enthusiasm 594 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: for life. It's it's infectious, like a some sort of 595 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: pleasant plague. It's really good. It's really good. Puts a 596 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: smile on my face. Thank you for calling in and 597 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: saying those things. Yeah. No, it's it's absolutely and infectious, 598 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: like some sort of delightful plague. Um. You know, I 599 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: mean that with with all of love, as as do 600 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: I mean with love when I say I have always heard, uh, 601 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: these particular islands pronounced as the Azores, And I think 602 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: I probably only know that from like watching the shows 603 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: about rich people talking about going on vacation. I think 604 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: it's a popular destination for like rich people Paradise is 605 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: Oh see. You know I have not caught those uh 606 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: those shows or mentions. I didn't know this, so I 607 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,479 Speaker 1: just went right along with Azorus. Uh. I know, I've 608 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: seen it written as the Azorian Regional Government. Uh so 609 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: the way it's written, it makes it feel or like 610 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: it's Azores to me. Yeah, it could be that I'm 611 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: just pronouncing it the way all these jerky rich folks 612 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: do and then they're wrong. Um so who's to say 613 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: but many? Yeah exactly, let's let's find one of them. 614 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: But you had been underwater pyramids, Yes, underwater structures of 615 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: any kind um kind of freaked me out and fascinate me. Yeah, 616 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: because it speaks to some kind of pre flood civil civilization, 617 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: possibly potentially right, And that's kind of cool that it 618 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: really is the territory of the ancient ones, the ones 619 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: who time forgot um, people who maybe had technology or 620 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: at least the the myths around potential lost technologies and civilizations. 621 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: That it's just fascinated everybody on this show for so long, 622 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: and it's probably fascinated you too. Uh. We did some 623 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 1: digging in to the potential underwater pyramid in this area, 624 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: and we want to tell you what we found. So 625 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: back in there were several or and actually there were 626 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: several articles posted about a man who had taken his 627 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: boat out to this area in the Azores and was 628 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: looking for potential fishing uh, areas I guess like looking 629 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the sea the depth right to 630 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: see where there are potential fishing spots and to get 631 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: other information just about the geology of that area. And 632 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: this person saw some weird stuff through the technology where 633 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: you're actually scanning the bottom of the ocean there and 634 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: you're looking at elevation. Uh. He found a thing that 635 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: if you look at the picture and the read out, 636 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 1: it looks like a pyramid that has submerged underwater like 637 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 1: sixty down and it's it's got that kind of diamond 638 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: shape with the four corners, and it appears that two 639 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: of the corners are oriented north and south, the way 640 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: the pyramids, the Great Pyramids of Giza are oriented, and 641 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: and other pyramids that are found across the planet. So 642 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: if you're just looking at that image of what he 643 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: saw on the technology he was using to scan the 644 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 1: sea floor, you'd think maybe this guy found a pyramid 645 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: down at the bottom of the sea. So he went 646 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: on the local news there and told his story. You 647 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: can find a video of that at surfer today dot com. 648 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: They've got an embedded video where you can actually watch 649 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: this person his last name is Silva, and he's speaking 650 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: to some local reporter and going over the footage. You 651 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: can look at it. Um. It does appear that there 652 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: was a lot of interest after this story went out. 653 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: There's public interest. There's also interest from other groups who 654 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: you know, study this stuff all the time. And again, 655 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: if you just look at the footage, it seems compelling. No, 656 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: did you get a chance to look at that at all, 657 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: just to see the picture? Yeah, I'm I'm dialing up 658 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 1: surfer today right now. Is that that's still one of 659 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 1: the top of the divers. No, that's not an actual photo. 660 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: If you look at that photo, that is a photoshopped 661 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: comp okay, because that looks really cool. I am. I'm 662 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: scrolling through it and I see the structures as they 663 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: appear on like what looks like kind of one of 664 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: those fishing boats. Uh radar kind of deals right. It 665 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: shows elevation and you can see that it's you know, 666 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: kind of mapping the train and showing that there's a 667 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: structure with a big, you know, flat base that kind 668 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: of goes up to a point like like a pyramid 669 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: because it's degrees. It definitely looks like it right from 670 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: that imagery. If that's all you had, you think that 671 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,439 Speaker 1: could be something. But here's what happened after this news 672 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: story went out and you know, others got interested. We 673 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: can jump to the Portuguese American Journal, which posted something 674 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: on October nine, which pretty unequivocally states, No, this is 675 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: not an underground pyramid. This is a volcano structure that 676 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: this person saw that is known by everybody here. It's 677 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,280 Speaker 1: between the two large islands, Teter Sierra and sal Miguel. 678 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: And you kind of look at the two pictures of 679 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 1: these on a map, and this volcano structure that they're 680 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: saying is at a depth of about forty meters, like 681 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,439 Speaker 1: the top of it, the part that this person saw, 682 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 1: it's known, it's been there for a long time. Nothing 683 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: to see here, basically, So I just want to ask you, 684 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: what do you think? Do you think there's nothing to 685 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: see here? Nol? I don't know. Man. Uh that that 686 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: photo shop she got me go? But see, I think 687 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: that's what happened here. A middle structure found by amateur 688 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: sailor not man made uh and Portuguese American journal. Um, 689 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: this is I mean, there's no follow up to this. 690 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: What were you able to find when you when you 691 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: douge a little deeper? Matt, this seems like it's not 692 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: that deep. Can't you just go check it out? Like? 693 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: Where's where is the mystery remaining? Now? You not you personally, 694 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm not expecting you to put on your wet suit 695 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: and then go check it out. But wouldn't there be 696 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: underwater foot photography of it? Now? It seems like the 697 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 1: locals are saying nothing to see here. Folks, we already 698 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: know what this is. I was wondering, where where is 699 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: the remaining part that's in question? Um, there's really nothing 700 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: that's in question to to my understanding, I think this 701 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: is the kind of thing because of that sensational photo 702 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: that's at the top of this older article. Like you said, 703 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: it's um, it's a it's a stock photo, a couple 704 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: of stock photos that have been smashed together, looks like 705 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: scuba diving photo and a pyramid photo, and they just 706 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: kind of over relate them. You see that. You see 707 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: the headline underwater pyramid. Your mind, you know, your mind 708 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: goes to all kinds of places, and it's something you 709 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,760 Speaker 1: want to talk about, some that you want to share, 710 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: and it's something you don't want to get disappointed about. 711 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: You don't want to be disappointed. Oh, it's just a 712 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 1: it's a known volcanic mound magic, you know, I know, 713 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's true. I need to and I think 714 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: this this what we're seeing here in real time, is 715 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 1: this story kind of morphing into being the story maybe 716 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 1: about a potential underwater pyramid and more a story about 717 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: like how you do need to kind of check your sources, 718 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: not not you call er specifically, but all of us 719 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: because I you heard me in real time, uh, calling 720 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 1: for the same thing, because I'm like, wait, that's awesome. Yes, 721 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: I'm on board. You see that picture and now that 722 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking at, don't even closer. It's not even a 723 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: very good photoshop. So it's just a matter we can 724 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: all be taken in by this stuff. You all just 725 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: kind of heard me being taken in by it. I'm 726 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: looking now and there's a really bad textural overlay of 727 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: like bubbles. I mean, it's pretty embarrassing. But you know what, 728 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: let me be the sacrificial lamp here because you know 729 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 1: how many days a week do we do this stuff. 730 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 1: We talk about this stuff, and my brain immediately was like, yeah, 731 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 1: underwater pyramids, let's go. You know, well, I think that's 732 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: the natural reaction, right to anybody who grew up with 733 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: a little bit of mystery being allowed. You know, if 734 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: you're allowed to take your mind to those places, then 735 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: underwater pyramids just makes you go yes, yes, um, but 736 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: you you have to think about it kind of coldly. 737 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: The Azores, it's a series of nine volcanic islands. Okay, 738 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: the this whole area that we're talking about. This is 739 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: another small volcanic not quite island yet, but maybe aspires 740 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: to be an island one day, or maybe it was 741 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: a volcano a long time ago. I I don't know 742 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: the geology behind that particular mound, but you know it 743 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 1: has the same it has the same potential as all 744 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: the other islands to just pop up above water. That's 745 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: just kind of a boring reality, I guess it is. 746 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: But but I think this is important, especially on the 747 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 1: heels of our you know, how to be a skeptic episodes, 748 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, this stuff really is import I 749 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: almost just fell for it again. I stopping through on 750 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 1: Instagram on my phone. Breaking news. The Tibetan monk discovered 751 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: in a mountain cave in Nepal is now considered the 752 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: oldest person in the world at two six years old. 753 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's awesome, and then it goes he was 754 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: found in a state of deep meditation tell Taka TETs. 755 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: Archaeologists first thought he was a mummy, but then noticed 756 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 1: that he has vital signs and is alive. Among his things, 757 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: they found an old scroll that says I've seen Jerry 758 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: more times than you, and it's on a page called 759 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:47,760 Speaker 1: Ohio Dead family, what like grateful dead Jerry. I've seen Jerry. 760 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,879 Speaker 1: I mean, but I see this breaking news and there's 761 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: a picture of all these medical people handling this shriveled 762 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: looking monk, and I'm like, yes, monk found in cave, 763 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: the oldest living human. Look, I'm joking a little bit, 764 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: but also like it's it's a thing, you know, It's 765 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 1: just be vigilant. There's so much there's so much junk 766 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: out there, so so much. But Chef, that doesn't mean 767 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: the other things you were talking about that message are 768 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: necessarily debunked. I don't know anything else about the other 769 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: pyramids in the a SoRs. I don't know this area 770 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,800 Speaker 1: at all. This is literally my first time thinking about 771 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: that place. So we're gonna put our heads into it 772 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: and see if we can find anything that is worth 773 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: everybody's time. It is a weird thing. That guy made 774 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,720 Speaker 1: a discovery that he felt was significant, talked to a reporter, 775 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: That reporter sent it out to everybody, and then it 776 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: became a huge news story for a moment. Right then 777 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,280 Speaker 1: it died down and waited for somebody else to discover 778 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: it through search and then make social media post about it. 779 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: But that's how a lot of things happen. They get 780 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: this second life either as like a meme or as 781 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 1: whatever it might be. Um because somebody reposted it in 782 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,360 Speaker 1: just the right way. And whereas it used to be 783 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: like you know, people that told tall tales, you know, 784 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,320 Speaker 1: if it was heard by enough people, it might eventually 785 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,280 Speaker 1: get elevated to the level of myth, and then elevated 786 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: to the level of like folklore, and and the difference 787 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 1: between all those things usually involved more fewer primary sources, 788 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Folklore a lot of time 789 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: is based in ritual and in tradition. But then tall 790 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 1: tales are kind of like made up stories, you know, 791 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: that then get repeated in the rent in a different 792 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: context and become you know, there's a grain of truth 793 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: to it. And now that's just the Internet. The Internet 794 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 1: is are like oral and visual tradition now, and it's 795 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: so easy to bark up the wrong tree and just 796 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: start spreading stuff around. Um. The good news is it 797 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: can also be shut down much more quickly. But sometimes 798 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: it gets out of hand and then, you know, as 799 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: Ben often says, nobody reads the retraction. You know, no one, 800 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: no one reads the exoneration. They just they just know 801 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 1: someone was accused of something or that some crazy thing happened, 802 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 1: and then they just run with it because everyone's brain again, 803 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 1: that confirmation buys everyone's brain wants to be right, that 804 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: wants to be the rightest one in the room with 805 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 1: the best scoops, you know, in the best info. It's 806 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: way more fun to talk about underwater pyramids than it 807 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,879 Speaker 1: is volcanic mounds that are just chilling down below the water. 808 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, just life, man. We got so many 809 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: voicemails and we're not going to get to today. Um yeah. 810 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: We always kind of like, ah, you need like ten 811 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: of them, you know. But then the guys are so 812 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 1: fascinating that we just can babble on about, you know, 813 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 1: and if it was all three of us, it would 814 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 1: have gone even longer. Uh. That's that's the point. We 815 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: just we love hearing from you and your stories, and 816 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 1: it really kind of just makes us feel like we're 817 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 1: part of a community, you know, and we hope it 818 00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:00,120 Speaker 1: makes you feel the same way. No, I want, or 819 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: if you wouldn't mind, if we could close with a 820 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,359 Speaker 1: it's not a discussion. I just want you to hear 821 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 1: what Nick said, and then we can then we can 822 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 1: end the episode. Hey guys, long time listener, first time caller. 823 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 1: My name is Nick. Um. I was listening to one 824 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,879 Speaker 1: of your shows back from September. You're about I think 825 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: a strange news animal attacks. You guys are talking about 826 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 1: a turkey attack on an old man. Well, we're gonna 827 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: assume he's old, because how else do you'll break hips 828 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 1: with turkeys. But you said something about that turkeys can't fly. 829 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: That's not true. Turkeys can fly just fine. Wild turkeys 830 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: will fly fifty six ft into a tree to roost 831 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 1: at nighttime, and they're capable going straight vertically up like 832 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 1: any other bird. It's really impressive. And second, when a 833 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,919 Speaker 1: bunch of males get into a group, you know they're 834 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: called Jake's when they're young and Tom's when they're a 835 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: little bit older, they can get pretty aggressive. And on 836 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 1: top of that, they have on the back of each 837 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,840 Speaker 1: heel a little bit above their feet what are called spurs. 838 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever seen them. Are a wooster, 839 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 1: they may have a character in like fingernails, but they're 840 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 1: basically a giant knife on the back of their feet. 841 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: So what they do is they jump up flop, which 842 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 1: is intimidating, but they come down on their enemies I 843 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 1: guess with their spurs, and they can they can cut 844 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 1: you up pretty good. I know this as a turkey hunter, 845 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: that's really it. But yeah, they're actually really impressive and 846 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 1: they can be pretty intimidating because they don't give up. 847 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 1: You can take a turkey, but they'll come right back 848 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 1: at you like they're not going to give up. They 849 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 1: don't just go away. You don't have to get away 850 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 1: from him. And they're scary. You know the bird, they 851 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,760 Speaker 1: had something that big come at you. It's pretty freaking scary. 852 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: But anyway, thanks guys, love the show, all right, thanks 853 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:49,319 Speaker 1: by cool cool cool cool. I'm sorry, No, we don't 854 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: have to do this, na man nah man nah, I 855 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: don't like any of that one bit. I'm sorry. We 856 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: got we got knife foot knife rooster, the turkey guys 857 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 1: now coming at me from the trees, dive bombing on me. 858 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god. This is designed for my nightmare. Yeah 859 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 1: also the group. So, I mean, I know we've talked 860 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 1: about this and I'm really only barely playing up my 861 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 1: fear here because it's definitely abated over time. Like I'm 862 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: not gonna like run away from like a bird. But 863 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 1: I was once chased by a rooster. I did not 864 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,759 Speaker 1: want to be caught. But turkeys are so beefy. Man, 865 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,320 Speaker 1: they're so like, oh if they if they can't imagine 866 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 1: just getting bombed by a turkey out of a tree 867 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 1: with it flipping its knife heels at you. I mean no, 868 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: I would I would go catatonic. Okay, you would have 869 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 1: to I would like, yeah, Now, it would take a 870 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: lot to pull me out of that FuG state. I 871 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 1: could tell you, well, maybe if they didn't think you 872 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: were a threat, they would cease their attacking, their their knife. 873 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: I guess me. I would just I would like to think. 874 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 1: I can't say. Um, I would like to think I 875 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:09,879 Speaker 1: would just go limp and just play dead. I would 876 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,879 Speaker 1: probably be dead. I would probably die of shock if 877 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 1: that were to happen to me. There you go. Nick said, 878 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:23,760 Speaker 1: LA have some sweet dreams. Tonaa. Sorry, No, I sometimes 879 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: wake up thinking there are turkeys. I'nder my covers and yeah, 880 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: well all right, uh um, I don't. I don't want 881 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 1: to torture you know, I I just it. Yeah, man, Yeah, 882 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:43,719 Speaker 1: you're gleeful. Laughter belies your true here what you just said. 883 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: You say you say the most wonderful things when when 884 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 1: you're in that state and it just brings me creature 885 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 1: you I do I will cook the hell out of 886 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 1: a turkey. That's right. That's how you get revenge. That's 887 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:03,760 Speaker 1: how I take back my agency. I got a real knife, okay, 888 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,800 Speaker 1: and it's big and sharp and he made a caratin 889 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 1: it's made of Japanese cold steel. Yeah, cold Japanese steel. 890 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 1: Sorry that sounded weird, but alright, Okay, this was fun, Matt, Yeah, 891 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 1: it was. This is fun. Major thank you to Daniel Moore, 892 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 1: Broccoli Chef and Nick. There were several other view that 893 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 1: we wanted to get to, but we will get to 894 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 1: you in a future Listener Mail episode and literally because 895 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: it means that we won't have to dig for another 896 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 1: one on the next episode. 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