WEBVTT - Andre Reed

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm John and this is cut

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Good Do, Good Do? What's getting down to

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<v Speaker 1>do with good do It? We asked the questions you

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<v Speaker 1>always want to know, but no one ever asked, let's

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<v Speaker 1>cut to it. You ain't heard him about it? Then

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<v Speaker 1>we're about to let you know. It's all buckle up, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're about to go on the airplane rock private plane. Alright, storytelling,

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<v Speaker 1>story story this storytelling, storytelling. Uncle Smithy, Okay, alright, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>who you're alright? So, um there's a guy that's been

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<v Speaker 1>a good friend of mine. Um Andy, he's been asking

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<v Speaker 1>me to play in this Turkey Bowl tournament flag football,

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<v Speaker 1>And the first couple of weeks, first couple of years,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, bro, no, I cannot play competitive sports,

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<v Speaker 1>especially on football. So second year he's like, hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ask So second year, no no. So he finally

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<v Speaker 1>asked me this year and I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>just the weekend? How many games? But he was like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna play three games and we make a championship.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, let's do it right. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's me dusting off my stuff, right, my cliques, gloves,

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. Bro. I got out there and first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, text the group is like, look, man, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna play, have some fun. We had a few practices,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing big deal. Where was this? Where was it? It was?

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<v Speaker 1>It was here in char I was here. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I played, he said, he said on airplane. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just said, get on the airplane, just like, hey, come

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<v Speaker 1>come with me, come with me. Think too hard, don't

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<v Speaker 1>think your metaphor. Game was a little misleadal. So so

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<v Speaker 1>we're playing here in Charlotte, and let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>First game, I'm playing quarterback. First of all I had

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<v Speaker 1>to do that was yapping. I'm like, bro, just chill.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not even the conversation. You want to know

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<v Speaker 1>what the real thing is. Let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start. I'm I'm gona get an end. End,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give it a finished product. You wanna know

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<v Speaker 1>what the finished product is? Please? I got two pooled hamstrings.

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<v Speaker 1>You washed up, dog? I am. I have been limping,

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<v Speaker 1>spin cycle. I have been limping since Saturday afternoon till day,

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<v Speaker 1>I have broken out all of my machines. I text

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<v Speaker 1>my contact at Baltimore because I am looking for a

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<v Speaker 1>normal tech through insurance workers and my new Game Ready

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<v Speaker 1>because my old Game Ready is broken. Bro, I am hurt. Team.

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<v Speaker 1>So now when I say her team, Bro, I I

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<v Speaker 1>pulled both at line, like do this wasn't worth it

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<v Speaker 1>if you blew both him? Yeah, it was definitely worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never fucking playing football again. You still have answer.

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<v Speaker 1>I played well. I played quarterback all that stop. I

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<v Speaker 1>played receiver. But Bro, Swiss army not. You don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, y'all get joking, joke. You don't understand. When

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<v Speaker 1>I sit down in a chair to use a bathroom,

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<v Speaker 1>it hurts. I have to roll over to get up.

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<v Speaker 1>I am sore. If I ever played football again, flag

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<v Speaker 1>football organized, I have to train at least three or

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<v Speaker 1>four months prior to. Oh god. But here's here's why

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<v Speaker 1>I went out there and played as if I was

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<v Speaker 1>in shape to play football. Mine was still there. Body

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<v Speaker 1>was there for a few players, Bro, for no there

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<v Speaker 1>was alert. So here's how it went down. This is

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<v Speaker 1>where it went all. Here's where the food's gaziness started. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>here's where it all. Here's where the screws, Here's where

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<v Speaker 1>the screws on the rims started to come under. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're playing quarterback. Those few passes, you know, good passing,

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<v Speaker 1>bad pass We go out there and I'm playing receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>catching around boom boom, I go crossing folks over too nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, okay, all right, take a few plays off,

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<v Speaker 1>series of two off, and this is where it all

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<v Speaker 1>went to ship. The second game. The second game, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>playing corner, playing while I was fever. Catch a few

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<v Speaker 1>rounds and I'm like, cool, a little bit of h

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of it feels like a cramp. No,

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<v Speaker 1>the brother, that was no cramp. So I go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and try to play through it. My body, my mind's

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<v Speaker 1>telling me yes, but my bids said hell no. Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>My right hamstring titans, and I'm saying I'm gonna play

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<v Speaker 1>through it. I played through it. You know what, My

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<v Speaker 1>left hamstring said, joined the party. My left hand hamstring

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<v Speaker 1>said stop. I said no, he said stop. I said no.

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<v Speaker 1>The third time he said stop. Boy, I said okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I was done. So you got a game and a

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<v Speaker 1>half in. You got a game and a half in,

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<v Speaker 1>and both my hamstrings quad growing um lower back. My

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<v Speaker 1>lower half is if there's an old movie. In that

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<v Speaker 1>movie it's called Old Yellow, and I am he think,

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<v Speaker 1>I take you round the back and blow my freaking brains.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm cuttings I need to know with like we're

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<v Speaker 1>y'all in the huddle, and your like Steve, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>hate to do this, but you gotta go to the sideline. No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody knew because my last play was the best play.

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<v Speaker 1>I played all right. I played corner and stopped the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I realized you and you at least went out

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<v Speaker 1>in the blazer. No no no, I realized. I said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we ain't gonna play no more. But he ain't catching

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<v Speaker 1>his pass on so he was running. Luckily, thank goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>the Lord was shining in his bright sun in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the vision of me, so I recognized because I

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<v Speaker 1>can see through that. I was putting my hand up

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<v Speaker 1>using my using my long index finger to block the

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<v Speaker 1>sun trick, and then the ball goes through my fingers,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm able to see the ball receiving trick right

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<v Speaker 1>there and pump return to trump return trick right and

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<v Speaker 1>then he didn't see it, so he proceeds to die

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<v Speaker 1>for the past. Now, I played corner in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>So I proceed to allow as he's airborne, to guide

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<v Speaker 1>him out of bound. Show if he does catch it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's incomplete. Yes, good job man, textbook. But bro, he

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<v Speaker 1>almost towards me because he was not he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to pass. Get run teeth, no safety help. It was

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<v Speaker 1>all you. It was I was shut down. I shut

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<v Speaker 1>him down. However, I was gonna make sure it was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be p I. But he wasn't catching his pass.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you pulled on your jersey. Time to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't put all my jersey. No I didn't. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what I did. Can't you can't let yourself do it.

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<v Speaker 1>When he went out of bounds, I stayed out of bound.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all got it. It's pointing this good. So now for

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<v Speaker 1>for all the folks who tweet at Smitty, get your jersey,

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<v Speaker 1>come out, come on back. Now you're hearing the type

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<v Speaker 1>of protection you got. You got something, but you're just

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<v Speaker 1>saying you ain't got I'll give you two or three

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<v Speaker 1>place to three plays. And then after I get hit

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<v Speaker 1>or I try to, and I run a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>decoy routes. Boy, don't you better stop him. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna go out there and blow my knees

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<v Speaker 1>out for I'm gonna go out with a blaze of cord.

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<v Speaker 1>I want the picture. But Bro, when I tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hurting. But here's what I figured out. I've been.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been pellaton and bike riding so much. Quads are muscular,

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<v Speaker 1>hamstrings fatigued. Bro, I am so duck. I believe if

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<v Speaker 1>I play next year, I gotta train three four months

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of time, training for no. But here's what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>training while y'all laughing, and I get it. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>the part of But when you're playing and you tried

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<v Speaker 1>to like the explosiveness of stop and go, if you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't done that and four years, your body goes, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you do? Stop doing this a long time? When

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<v Speaker 1>we stop at this rate with this power. I was

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<v Speaker 1>out there, Bro, I was fly too. I had my

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<v Speaker 1>outfit at Jay's all. Oh, I was good. I took

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<v Speaker 1>no damn Jay's also quick gloves off. I went through

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<v Speaker 1>my whole catcher routine. Wasn't gonna drop a nothing, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>drop anything, but couldn't go anywhere either. It was remarkable

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<v Speaker 1>and sad all at the same time because I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 1>at home right. I was sitting at home yesterday. Bro

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<v Speaker 1>I had to watch games either on the bed or

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<v Speaker 1>in the couch to where I had to be in

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<v Speaker 1>a good position because if Bro I was on my machines,

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<v Speaker 1>I was sitting on ice ice up, son, hur did

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<v Speaker 1>your team pick you up? For game three? Did y'all

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<v Speaker 1>win it? Pick me up? He was out of permission.

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<v Speaker 1>I packed up, and he took his toys and went home.

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<v Speaker 1>They had appreciate you all appreciate this is good, but

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta go. I was done. Hey man, welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>wash Field. It's okay. I just didn't have it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>The same thing. Whatever I tell you what, I won't

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<v Speaker 1>do it again. A lot of coaching, a lot of coaching.

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<v Speaker 1>The only way I'm playing if I called my trainer

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<v Speaker 1>and do it, that's the only way I have. No

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<v Speaker 1>I have z bro interest. Oh, I bet you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's funny is I get people all the time

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<v Speaker 1>and say, man, man, let's get out of and I

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<v Speaker 1>always say I don't. I don't feel like it like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't feel like I have to prove anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wasn't trying to prove anything. One cool thing

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<v Speaker 1>is I got to play with Peyton, So it was

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<v Speaker 1>out there playing it was cool, But it was like

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<v Speaker 1>at the time I was going there, I was like, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I'm not like I enjoyed. I enjoyed the people.

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<v Speaker 1>The first team, it was all right. Second team that

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<v Speaker 1>we played against it was fun, right, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>I just have forgotten how much time and routine and

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<v Speaker 1>training that I put in, and I just it reminded me,

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<v Speaker 1>and it said this. All these guys that sit on

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<v Speaker 1>the couch say, oh, what's the big deal all you

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<v Speaker 1>have to do. I'm here to tell you if you

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<v Speaker 1>go from the couch, I don't care who you I

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<v Speaker 1>kea Ashley furniture, uh Ethan Allen, all the good cheap

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<v Speaker 1>couch or expensive couch. I guarantee you I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>what you used to be. I don't care what you

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<v Speaker 1>say you are. If you have not done any football

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<v Speaker 1>training prior to if you think you're gonna get your

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<v Speaker 1>ass off the couch or the recliner and just go

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<v Speaker 1>out there and go run around against some of these

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<v Speaker 1>corners out in the league. Even as thirst right boy

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<v Speaker 1>stuck you ain't doing it. I don't care what you

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<v Speaker 1>used to do at Clemson. You said you getting m No,

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<v Speaker 1>you may catch the ball, but I'm gonna tell you

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<v Speaker 1>the next day, you're gonna be hurting, because today I'm hurting.

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<v Speaker 1>The only reason I was not limping in here. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you I did treatment on myself four times. Yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching the game when the dude got hit.

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<v Speaker 1>That just reminds me ice when the dude got tackled,

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<v Speaker 1>that h wave, hippo Matt. I used everything that I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have, And now trying to order through workers comp

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<v Speaker 1>legally workers Camp. I'm getting all the contraptments that I

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<v Speaker 1>need because I'm hurting you. File corkus come claiming it

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<v Speaker 1>was bad. I ain't paying for it, not flex cheap.

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<v Speaker 1>Who we got coming up on the Cut to It podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>We've got Andre Reid inducted into the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 1>In Andre Reid and the Buffalo Bills went to four

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<v Speaker 1>consecutive Super Bowls. Andre rinks eight in NFL history and

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<v Speaker 1>total career receptions and fourteenth in NFL history and total

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<v Speaker 1>career touchdown receptions. Andre Reid on the Cut to A

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast let's clear there, there's all there's this member. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was playing with Baltimore with Carolina and we were

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<v Speaker 1>heading in the halftime, and everybody thinks me and you

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<v Speaker 1>were arguing, Oh I have seen that like viral clips.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that. I get that one too, every ting

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody is like, oh, They're like, oh, Steve, what's

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<v Speaker 1>going there? Andre, who do you think? And they don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going against one of the corners. I was

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<v Speaker 1>marking him and he was talking and you just happened

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<v Speaker 1>to walk past me and Andre g a legend, and

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<v Speaker 1>Andre like, don't let don't let that your fellow get

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<v Speaker 1>it get in you now. And I'm like, so, Andre

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like he knew I was ripped up. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's like he he's trying to get me to go

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<v Speaker 1>in the locker room. And I go on the locker room.

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<v Speaker 1>He know I'm coming back out like like yes, And

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<v Speaker 1>so he's and so me and him talking about and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, man blankety blank blank blank black. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's more of seeing my elder statesman, a dude that

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<v Speaker 1>I respect. It looked up to watch going because here

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<v Speaker 1>here here's what I gotta I gotta let you know,

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<v Speaker 1>growing up in l A. You don't understand how much

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<v Speaker 1>you crushed us as a l A kind of seeing

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<v Speaker 1>l A r l A Raider Oakland Raider when both

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson hurt his hip and we and you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in l A. So it's nine eight one, Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>nine am, nine thirty. While I'm getting up, I had

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Dean's turkey sausage with some some blue baby preserves

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<v Speaker 1>and the English muffin and uh some pineapple Chastis saster

0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Shasta horrible breakfast. But um man, I'm watching the Buffalo

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<v Speaker 1>Bills crush Young Eve's heart because Bo Jackson is not playing,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't play, and y'all murked us. That was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be hard. That was supposed to be our year and

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<v Speaker 1>our team. We're going out there to play, and you

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<v Speaker 1>guys just demolished this man. No vote, no Bo Jackson vote,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't play. Uh. That is when Williams he was skinny

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<v Speaker 1>Skinny number twenty two, Skinny Harvey Harvey. Williams is the

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<v Speaker 1>running back who actually took over after that for a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Yeah, man, I just remember that, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>how that's that's uh you're talking about nostalgia, but that

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<v Speaker 1>that's de Andre Reid that I see. So when I

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<v Speaker 1>was playing, when I see Andre Reid on the sideline,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to get his team, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the guy I see. So I'm just charged up, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like big brout, like it's it's it's uncle Dre.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta show up. It's Mr Read, I gotta show up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I gotta come calie. I'm oh, and he and

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<v Speaker 1>he did and he did. So it's it's it's really

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<v Speaker 1>man so to get you on my podcast and just

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<v Speaker 1>really to talk to you. Mm hmm. Man, It's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's um, it's like I'm daydreaming and I and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to open my eyes because I dreamt so

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<v Speaker 1>many times of hoping to be close to being in

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand yard club I played when I when I

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<v Speaker 1>played football, man, I had football cars. So call pickings

0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Herman uh more, Andre Andre Read, Henry Ellert, the thous

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<v Speaker 1>and yard club. That's what I wanted to be in.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I that's what I saw football last. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see football as a financial path. I saw it

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<v Speaker 1>as a path of the black heat men and heroes

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<v Speaker 1>that I saw on the television because that was before

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<v Speaker 1>we knew salaries. Man, I just wanted to be like

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<v Speaker 1>those dudes. Man, I had a car collection. I had

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<v Speaker 1>my car collection. My tops had that steel ass chalk

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<v Speaker 1>gum right, white powder on your damn face. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's right as at ampm bro go to a MP

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<v Speaker 1>and rode my BMX bike with some cars. Yeah right, Spike, Yeah,

0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:29.960
<v Speaker 1>you open you open it up and say who I

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<v Speaker 1>got in there? Who I got? Yeah? Excited? Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike quit and Randall cutting him. It's funny that you

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<v Speaker 1>say that, Steve, because to go back even you know,

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<v Speaker 1>before I played, it was the same way with guys

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<v Speaker 1>like Lyn Swan and and John Stalworth and guys like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I was a big Pittsburgh Steeler fan

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<v Speaker 1>growing up in high school, in college, and I wore

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight in college because I wanted to be Lyn Swan.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's cementing that was when Marvel leaving our head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>got inducted to the hall in two thousand one. Lin

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<v Speaker 1>Swan was in that class and he gets up there

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<v Speaker 1>and does his speech and I'm sitting in the audience.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I didn't retire until you know, I retired

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<v Speaker 1>to a year before that, so I haven't been almost

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<v Speaker 1>close to a year out. And he's doing his speech

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<v Speaker 1>and he mentions me in his speech, and I turned

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<v Speaker 1>around and looked at everybody else, like, who's he talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>M And I just was like, that was my moment

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<v Speaker 1>that a guy that I idolized as a as a

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<v Speaker 1>young kid, as a high school kid, in college and

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<v Speaker 1>awards number and he mentioned me in his Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Fame speech. So that was it for me when I

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<v Speaker 1>when that happened. So you know, I understand where you're

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<v Speaker 1>coming from, because this game is generational. Guys leave, guys

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<v Speaker 1>take over. Guys leave, guys take over, and you you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the guys before you you idolize them, and

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<v Speaker 1>guys now idolize you. You hope they do because we're

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<v Speaker 1>we're living in it. This is a different NFL players

0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:22.359
<v Speaker 1>are totally different all the way from what they do

0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:25.800
<v Speaker 1>to how they talk. Everything is different because social media

0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:28.960
<v Speaker 1>has been a big influence on that. But the old

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<v Speaker 1>school you can't get away from that. And I will

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<v Speaker 1>always be old school when I talk. They talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest receivers of all time. Obviously Jerry and Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, the guy I'm talking to definitely deserves

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<v Speaker 1>to be in that in that category. I talked about

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<v Speaker 1>those guys because they did it for me, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is that is the bottom line that will never change. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I would take it. I'll take it a step further.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't do it for me. Y'all would have standard

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<v Speaker 1>right when I look, can I talk and I have

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity that y'all are the standard right. And and

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<v Speaker 1>you know a little bit with the Earth thing man,

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<v Speaker 1>I always looked at Earth, He's the standard. I looked

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<v Speaker 1>at irv is like, you know, the playmaker. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even though we worked together we had a little tiff,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like I've always respected Earth right, and not

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<v Speaker 1>because he was a cowboy, but when you looked up,

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<v Speaker 1>he was the playmaker and he made plays right. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's why you know, it's funny as I you

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<v Speaker 1>know in here I've talked about that and everybody I've

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<v Speaker 1>shared like when I talk about the way I played,

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<v Speaker 1>I played the I played the game for the standard

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<v Speaker 1>in which I learned it from where it's slobber knocker,

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<v Speaker 1>it's bald. Now the saying this this, this, this, this

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<v Speaker 1>same uh, the same PTA meetings. Right, this ain't the team.

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<v Speaker 1>This ain't the team. M Uh you know the the YMC. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is when you go across middle Mel

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<v Speaker 1>Blunt to blow you up. Donnie Shells had put you

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep? Right, Ronnie a lot to give you that

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<v Speaker 1>night night? Right? Give you ninety ninety Yes, Hey, Steve Atwater,

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<v Speaker 1>make you change your whole perspective on how you looked

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<v Speaker 1>at you become the Nigeria nightmare. Steve Atwater hit you

0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:29.360
<v Speaker 1>you'd be just become Nigerian. You're doing some different type

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<v Speaker 1>of contemplating now, Huh. I never heard that one. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>when I see Christian Nacorey, I'm gonna tell him that one.

0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:44.800
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0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:49.239
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<v Speaker 1>at cut to It on Instagram? What about Twitter? At

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<v Speaker 1>cut to It? Facebook cut to It feature? And Steve

0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:03.919
<v Speaker 1>Smith Sr. What about online? And you can follow us

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0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:09.840
<v Speaker 1>buy merch and you can subscribe to us wherever you

0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:14.160
<v Speaker 1>listen to podcasts. I got all my answers questions. Um yeah,

0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I got all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for.

0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:22.480
<v Speaker 1>A brother cut to a podcast dot com. I know

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many stories, and we're gonna get into so

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<v Speaker 1>much of that stuff. But our first segment really quick,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into it's called get ice up Smith. Why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you give them the first one? You went to

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<v Speaker 1>Cookstown University D two. Cookstown used to be name something else.

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<v Speaker 1>What is that name? Uh, it was before it was

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<v Speaker 1>a university. All I know is that Cookstown Teachers College.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good, but that is incorrect, my friend, Okay, what

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<v Speaker 1>is it? And you draft? You were drafted in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth round in m hm. They changed their name in

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<v Speaker 1>three of That would indicate at some point you were

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<v Speaker 1>there when they changed their name. Uh, you're gonna hit

0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:09.200
<v Speaker 1>the cabinet back there. You're gonna knock off the wheaties.

0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:13.040
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna hit you a little bit. I have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea city. That's a good one. That's the first. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the first one. You stubbed me one Cookstown State College,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen July. No, don't don't ride with me now. It

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<v Speaker 1>ain't no room on this bandwagon. You can't get on.

0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Before that, it was Ritown, Teacher's College before Cookstown State. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>who's your hero and why? My dad? Definitely? Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>think most people say their dad because that's where you

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<v Speaker 1>get all your knowledge from. UM. My dad, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he passed away in nine during one of my games, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>passed away at home and during your game. During the game,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a it was a Sunday game, four o'clock game.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom and my two brothers came up to the

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<v Speaker 1>game because it was a later game. My dad wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to stay home because he had to get up for

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<v Speaker 1>work the next morning. And actually it was just my

0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:17.439
<v Speaker 1>one brother and oh yeah, he passed probably during the

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<v Speaker 1>game when watching the game. My brother went to pick

0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 1>him up in the morning and the door was wide open.

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<v Speaker 1>TV was on, and he kind of knew what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on. He kind of knew something wasn't right. And

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<v Speaker 1>he walked in the door. He was laying on the floor,

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<v Speaker 1>so he had he had passed probably that night. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember him calling me crying and it was yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I told the coach and I said, Coach, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get home. My dad just passed last night. And

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<v Speaker 1>they put me on a private jet and I got

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<v Speaker 1>home before my mom got home, and when my mom

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<v Speaker 1>saw me that she knew something something happened. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was pretty devastating. Man. He was fifty two years old.

0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 1>Mm and uh, like I said, he never missed the game. Rain, sleet, snow, hail, fire,

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:17.200
<v Speaker 1>The world could have been falling. My dad would have

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<v Speaker 1>been there, so um, yeah that's what I Uh. It

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:27.879
<v Speaker 1>was crazy, crazy day, crazy time. Man. But he's proud.

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 1>He's up there proud right now. Whoa, and let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>hop into your journey, little bit. Andre. Where are you from.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the place you call home? Uh? Well, San Diego

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<v Speaker 1>is my home, but I'm from Allentown, Pennsylvania, a little

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<v Speaker 1>old town. Uh about an hour fifteen minutes from Philly. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I used to go to a lot of Eagles games. Um,

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 1>used to go a couple of Steelers games. Again. You know,

0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:59.680
<v Speaker 1>you guys knew I was a Steelers fan growing up. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and are real just a blue collar town? I mean,

0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I know maybe you guys live in blue collar towns. Allentown.

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:08.720
<v Speaker 1>You can't get no more blue collar than that. Bethram Steel.

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 1>They supplied of the steel in World War Two for

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 1>for the Uh yeah, Bethram Steel there and they're still

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<v Speaker 1>doing a lot of stuff, but just hard working people. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom and dad were just hard working. My mom

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<v Speaker 1>worked in a factory, my dad was a construction worker. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and I learned everything from them about hard work and

0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 1>nothing's gonna be given to you unless you work for it.

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't. We didn't have I didn't have a lot.

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>We didn't have a lot. But my dad taught me

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 1>those values. And that's what I tried to tell kids nowadays,

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<v Speaker 1>that you're no matter where you are, what you do,

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:52.640
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to work for it. You are Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame career, You're part of a special Bills team

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 1>and made four consecutive Super Bowls? What was so special

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:03.399
<v Speaker 1>about those teams accomplish that? And I I talked to

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Steve about this a couple of times. You know, people

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 1>as the years go on, they don't say, well you

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>lost four and they dwell on it. Now they say,

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 1>you guys went to four in a row. Maybe ten

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 1>twelve years ago. I would hear that mostly, well you

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 1>guys lost four, You did you did this and did that.

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, what were you doing? You were

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<v Speaker 1>watching me? Uh So I think the main thing that

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<v Speaker 1>sticks out to me about those teams I was on

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<v Speaker 1>is the togetherness and and I'm sure Steve can attest

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 1>to this. Teams nowadays don't have that togetherness there together,

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>but they don't have that's certain. Yeah, they don't have that.

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 1>And we had that and we had there's six other

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 1>Hall of famers from that team and a coach owner

0:27:57.320 --> 0:28:00.360
<v Speaker 1>and the GM. Regardless if you were to lost six

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:03.640
<v Speaker 1>of them. Something was going right up in Buffalo during

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:08.680
<v Speaker 1>all those years, and we believed in each other, whether

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:11.880
<v Speaker 1>we want or loss. We knew that you were held

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:14.920
<v Speaker 1>accountable every time you stepped on the field, and that's

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 1>that's how you approached it. You did your job, but

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 1>you were held accountable for everything you did, soond you

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 1>walk in that building. I don't think kids really here

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 1>that they don't have. The kids nowadays don't have the

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>accountability that they used to have. So what do you

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 1>think is missing to where the teams don't have that

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>level of camaraderie. Social media, that's one of them. In

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:46.120
<v Speaker 1>there was hardly computers. You couldn't you couldn't go to

0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 1>anywhere else and get the information. Um and the influence

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 1>of everything has reshaped everything else. Even it's reshaped sports too.

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>What do you enjoy about watching with today's wild receivers?

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything you wish you could bring from your

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 1>here to today's or maybe vice versa? What do you

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 1>enjoy about today's wilde receivers? Didn't catching catching a harder balls?

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Like they ain't nothing? Now? Uh? That's ah, that's probably

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>the most the thing that I noticed the most tight

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>ends are catching a hundred fifteen balls. I mean targets

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 1>that I mean, did they have targets when you came

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>to lead Steve like targets? Did they? Was that actually

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:33.959
<v Speaker 1>a statistic? No, it wasn't a stat I mean they

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 1>would say it was targets, But they didn't like hold

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 1>They didn't hold your feet to the fire like they

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 1>do now. Your quarterback was Jim Kelly Andre You just

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 1>called him the toughest individual you've ever met in your life.

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Twelve plus eighty three equals six. What was it like?

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>And what did what did he mean to your career?

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Hold on? I literally did the maths like you get

0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>this double digits in this singles digits like I love

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 1>how you love integers? Right, He's like, that's not the

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 1>math they got that new math in school. I gotta

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 1>seven year old, but it ain't thing. Yeah, let me

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>let me tell you, man, Jim was When I said

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>he was the toughest dude, I definitely was. Was one

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 1>of the toughest guys I've ever met. And this is

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>not because of what he's been going through the last

0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 1>sevent eight years of his life. I mean that didn't

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>makes him tougher really, but he just he just had

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 1>a knack for getting forty four other guys together, and

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 1>he had a knack for always, you know, doing the

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>right thing, even if it was bad. I mean, he

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 1>always was one of those upbeat guys and you always

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>knew that when he was in the huddle, that we

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>can get we can get this thing done. You know,

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 1>are you getting a huddle sometimes and you're looking you

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>look at the quarterback and you're like, I don't know

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 1>about this one. You just look at it. Uh, maybe

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 1>we should just go back to the sideline. I don't know.

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 1>But he just he just didn't have that his face.

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>He didn't have that in his face, and I think

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>we always had a chance, regardless of what the situation was,

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 1>and that kind of permeated with everybody um, regardless to

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 1>the situation. So that's that's what I mean by being

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>a tough guy and being physically tough. You know, Jim

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 1>was a big quarterback. I mean, he wasn't gonna run

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of these quarterbacks do now, but he just, uh,

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:34.479
<v Speaker 1>he knew how to get you up. He knew how

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 1>to get you ready, how to get you ready for

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 1>a game. And it was a pleasure to play with

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>a guy like that, because I'd rather play with a

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 1>guy like that that it doesn't have all the physical tools,

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>but gets the job done with all the other little

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>things that he got. And you know, we want in

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>a ten year span at that time, we want more

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>games than any team in NFL history and a ten

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 1>year span, So that that just goes to show you that,

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, he had a command of everything. Um, he

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>knew what the deal was, and he relied on his

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, his playmakers. I mean, I had Thermat Thomas

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>behind me, mean, jeez um, and we had a pretty

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 1>good offensive line at that time. I think we led

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the league in rushing and total offense for three straight years,

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 1>so we were you're pretty pretty good locomotive going on

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>for a while. So the thing. I'm in the Hall

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 1>of Fame. There's no doubt about it because of him.

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously with God, you know, give me the ability,

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>but you know, God had to find somebody who can

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 1>throw me the ball too, and he was the guy.

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I've always wanted to ask you this, what made Don

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>beebe so unique? Mh fastest white boy I ever seen,

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>No doubt about it. Um, I think he just worked

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 1>within our offense. I mean, you can find any guy

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 1>that can go straight and fly, but you know, Bebie

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:03.959
<v Speaker 1>was that guy that he could take some hits over

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the middle. He wasn't known for that. He was known

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 1>to stretch in the field. And um, we had James

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 1>Lofton on the other side, yep. I mean James Lofton

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>was just the consummate pro learned a lot from him

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 1>about the game, about about everything, and we just all

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>jailed together at that time. That's cool. I've always wanted

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>to ask that because a lot of times, always I

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 1>never connected the dots because man Don used to catch

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 1>that fire from Ronnie lot every time. Oh yeah yeah,

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 1>every time they was playing. Ronnie made sure he gave

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Bibe a tag man even when even when, uh when

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Ronnie went to the Jets. He had him on the

0:33:55.480 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 1>side one time. Man, he tagged me one time, apologize

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>for it. Really, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Bro, I'm

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 1>sorry that a Steve that definitely is not a right

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:14.359
<v Speaker 1>lot treat. Apologize. He's like, hey, Dre, you all right

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:17.239
<v Speaker 1>to do it. I was like, yeah, I'm trying to

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:20.320
<v Speaker 1>get my face back on the sidemnd. I'm alright, thanks

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:23.359
<v Speaker 1>for asking. Yeah, I gotta go, I gotta go sit

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 1>down for a couple of plays. But all right, appreciate you,

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:33.359
<v Speaker 1>appreciate your give me some loved do Let's get down

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>to do it. Hey, Gerard, why did you get that

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 1>T shirt? You mean this thing? Oh yes, I got

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 1>it from cut to a podcast dot com where we

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 1>have exclusive merchandise. Shout out to our guys at seven

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:47.839
<v Speaker 1>or four shot. But yeah, you can go on, buy

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 1>you a T shirt, subscribe to us wherever you listen

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:56.320
<v Speaker 1>to podcasts. This process for the whole time, I've always

0:34:56.520 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, um Back in February Februar Are two thousand two,

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:05.360
<v Speaker 1>I started working with a sports psychologist who worked with

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:09.719
<v Speaker 1>golfers mainly, and we start doing the visitization and UM

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 1>daily weekly, monthly, short term, long term, and then lifetime goals.

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 1>And one of my lifetime goes I've not marked off yet.

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 1>It's Hall of Fame, And um, I've already steered away

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 1>from it because it's so subjective and it's a and

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 1>you should and you should That's that's probably the most

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:39.959
<v Speaker 1>important thing for you for you now? Is that just God?

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:42.840
<v Speaker 1>But but I'm I know I'm doing that, but I

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:45.959
<v Speaker 1>also want to. I actually want to enjoy, no matter

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 1>what the outcome is, the process, because I've steered away

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>from it so much that I've almost set myself up

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 1>for to believe that I'm not you know, I'm not this,

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not that. But more of anything, do your journey.

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Why was it special to be inducted in the process

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>and the procedure that made it such a special moment

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:18.319
<v Speaker 1>for you and your family? That's a great question. I

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:21.439
<v Speaker 1>think it's it's been seven years now, and I think

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>every year. Uh. And this is just aside from how

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 1>they go about doing things, How the Hall of Fame

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:34.839
<v Speaker 1>selectors and all that kind of stuff. Um, how they

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:36.920
<v Speaker 1>get to the point where they picked five guys that

0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:41.880
<v Speaker 1>are the guys that they feel are worthy of induction

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:44.319
<v Speaker 1>and a bust and all that kind of stuff. And

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I always tell people they're like, well, who do you

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:48.480
<v Speaker 1>think should be? People ask me who do you think

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 1>should be the next receiver going in? And I go, well,

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't really tell you the next one, but I

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:55.759
<v Speaker 1>can tell you about three or four guys have been

0:36:55.760 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 1>waiting a while. They deserve mhm um. And the process.

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:07.279
<v Speaker 1>It took me nine years and I retired number three,

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:13.279
<v Speaker 1>five and seven yards touchdown catches of all time and

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 1>it took me nine years. So to your point, Steve,

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 1>the first three or four years I was eligible, you know,

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>you're just like, Okay, do you think of it? Yeah,

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 1>this is my year no matter what my stats say this,

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 1>then I'm a team this that. But it took me

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 1>four years to figure out how they go about doing it.

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:40.319
<v Speaker 1>And I had to respect that whether the outcome was yes,

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 1>this is your year or it's not your year. You

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:47.520
<v Speaker 1>stepped out on the field, somebody had to somebody had

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 1>to take somebody had to find you because you srupt

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 1>and you you change games. That's what a Hall of

0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Famer to me is, and you're in that category. You

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:03.319
<v Speaker 1>uh Tory halt all the receivers that are up now

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 1>are just like when me Chris Tim Brown. You know,

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Jerry was in his own category, but me, Chris and

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Tim Brown for five years took votes from each other

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:19.520
<v Speaker 1>for five years. I go in Tim, I mean Chris

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 1>goes in thirteen, I go into fourteen. Tim Brown goes

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 1>in fifteen. So that that that's the process that I

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 1>that I'm trying to get at, is that they do

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 1>this regardless of who's saying something for you or not.

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:38.160
<v Speaker 1>When all forty four of those guys get in the room,

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 1>they're influenced by each other, regardless if that's the guy

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about or not. So the guy that's gonna

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:50.240
<v Speaker 1>be representing you not only has to convince the forty

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:53.960
<v Speaker 1>four other guys, he really has to convince himself that

0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:58.319
<v Speaker 1>that's I'm in here because this is my guy, and everybody,

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:02.319
<v Speaker 1>every one of those guys, that's my guy I have.

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm on his behalf to make sure you guys go.

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Guys know why he should have a bronze bus that

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the last sixty tho years, no doubt about it. Everybody

0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 1>who's on the ballot, they don't put you on a

0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 1>ballot if they don't think you're worthy of it. I

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:23.359
<v Speaker 1>don't care how many years you played and whatever. If

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 1>you're not on it. If you're on the ballot, you're

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:27.719
<v Speaker 1>worth you should be a Hall of Famer. That's just

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:33.279
<v Speaker 1>my that's why we don't have votes. Mm hmmm. They

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 1>sent me a ballot every year, who do you think?

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 1>And I checked people off or whatever. That's not going

0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:44.799
<v Speaker 1>to them writers, it's it's not gonna influence what they

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 1>feel and how they go about presenting no matter what.

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 1>So right now, this is your first year eligibility, right, yeah, okay,

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 1>so let me tell you just what you have. You

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:08.440
<v Speaker 1>got the holdovers. So you got Tori Hines, Ward, Uh,

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Wayne. These guys have been in it for a while,

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 1>they've been in the finals for a while, and it's

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.959
<v Speaker 1>kind of like it's the same process that me, Tim

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 1>and Chris Carter went through. So sooner or later, they're

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to start breaking these get breaking everybody up.

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna have to start breaking everybody up. And then

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:34.840
<v Speaker 1>once one goes and boom boom, boom, boom boom, domino

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:39.880
<v Speaker 1>effect almost would be a domino effect. So and then

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I always look at it, you look at errors, right,

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:49.239
<v Speaker 1>you look at errors. When they get in that room,

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:52.400
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna look at what are they played in? What

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 1>type of game wasn't in that error? And that's maybe

0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:58.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe one guy thinks of it that way and maybe

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 1>three other just think of it a different way. Whatever

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:04.879
<v Speaker 1>it is. But they put all you guys, they're gonna

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 1>put all you in a category, and they're gonna look

0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 1>at the error, and they're gonna look at numbers, are

0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna look at play all. They're gonna look at all

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:16.920
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. But it's the one guy that says something

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 1>that the other four guys or other five guys how

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 1>many it is, doesn't say. So whoever is gonna be

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:31.239
<v Speaker 1>presenting you to the voters and the writers, he's got

0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 1>to be on his game and he's got to say

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:39.120
<v Speaker 1>something about you that none of these other three guys got. Mhm.

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be the difference you're gonna get in. But

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 1>what can he say about you? The same guy said

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:51.480
<v Speaker 1>something about me nine years and rupt did you say

0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the same thing every time? I mean, let's reshuffle to deck, bro,

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, like, did you say something year

0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:04.800
<v Speaker 1>four that you didn't say? Oh, you're six or what

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:07.719
<v Speaker 1>what how did you go about doing that? The same

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 1>movie script in every uh we saw this movie. I started, Hey,

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I started writing stuff down, said he thank you. You start,

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 1>you start, you started meeting? Hey, what we got this week?

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:24.520
<v Speaker 1>What we got this ship? No? No, no, no wait

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 1>wait wait Andrew, you had to google your own state,

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 1>You had to google your own stats? No no, So

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know the it's such a it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a dumb it's a dumb excuse my my friends as

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<v Speaker 1>the dumb ass process. It is because if you were

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<v Speaker 1>an impactful player and you showed up every game and

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:51.319
<v Speaker 1>you played, there should be no question. But that's not

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<v Speaker 1>how they work. They don't work like that. In that

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<v Speaker 1>room on Saturday morning, the day before Super Bowl. They

0:42:56.640 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 1>don't work like that. I think it's gonna be you're

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:04.360
<v Speaker 1>you're you're gonna be going against those guys. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom line. When when you got that jacket to make

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<v Speaker 1>it all worthwhile, then no doubt about it. Man. I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't say it changed my life. It just it just

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 1>put a stamp. It put the stamp of approve on

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<v Speaker 1>what I did. Everybody else can think this and think

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 1>that whatever they wanted but this jacket means that you

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:28.760
<v Speaker 1>were great at something that a lot of people weren't

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.799
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people weren't great at m That's what

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<v Speaker 1>it means. And it just ain't any old jacket. You

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<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna go down here to north Room to get

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:42.360
<v Speaker 1>one of the facts, that's for sure. So once that

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<v Speaker 1>happens for you, will you be different, of course. But

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:51.000
<v Speaker 1>all the people around you, family friends, somebody had said

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:52.800
<v Speaker 1>something to you when you were in high school, somebody

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:54.920
<v Speaker 1>said something to you, and Pop Warner or whatever. That's

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:58.720
<v Speaker 1>that's the things you think about. That all flashed before

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:03.239
<v Speaker 1>my eyes the minute I got that call, m H.

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:09.799
<v Speaker 1>And it's it's a feeling that that I'll never ever

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:12.719
<v Speaker 1>be able to describe for you. I mean, like really

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 1>describe it, because at that moment, man, I just had

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 1>like an out of body experience and it was and

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:25.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean I thought about a lot of people, thought

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:29.080
<v Speaker 1>about my dad because my my dad wasn't there. He

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:31.359
<v Speaker 1>wasn't there in triment that he wasn't there to see it.

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 1>So those are the emotions you get. And I'm in aquarious.

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm a very emotional person anyway, So it um it

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 1>really put in perspective, not only you as a player,

0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>for you as a person. M you as a person. Man,

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:51.440
<v Speaker 1>that's the most important thing is what's in here. They

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:53.040
<v Speaker 1>can take a lot of things from me. They can't

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 1>take that. That's hard to get from somebody, especially if

0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 1>they don't want to give it to you. It's hard

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 1>to get M. So it's it's a and I sometimes

0:45:04.520 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 1>when I'm alone, I think about it and believe it

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:12.319
<v Speaker 1>or not, just it tears me up because it is

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:18.920
<v Speaker 1>there's something you dream about. You know, you're getting the

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 1>they have the gold jacket lunch and and you're in

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 1>a you're at the hall, You're in this room and

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:29.319
<v Speaker 1>there's no media. Nobody's allowed in this room. Not either.

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 1>If a fly got in the room, they're kicking his

0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 1>ass out. And it's a room with the greatest players ever,

0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:41.960
<v Speaker 1>a hundred of us in that room. And we just talked.

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 1>And it's a it's beyond any fraternity you can imagine

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:53.239
<v Speaker 1>being in. So you you're I'm looking forward to you

0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:59.239
<v Speaker 1>being a part of our fraternity. Brother. Sure, Hey, you

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:02.440
<v Speaker 1>just sucked me up, man, picture didn't I felt like

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I was there it boys over here talking about right.

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I just put a glass on the on the door

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:15.640
<v Speaker 1>right there, and I just wanna listen. Yep, it's uh.

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:18.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean when you listen to Jim Brown talk, mhm,

0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:27.400
<v Speaker 1>you can't help but listen to that man, and it's uh,

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:29.720
<v Speaker 1>it's a heck of an experience. Man, You'll never forget

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:32.319
<v Speaker 1>it the rest of your life. Next to your kids

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:38.120
<v Speaker 1>being born. It's a close second. Mhm. Did you guys

0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:43.960
<v Speaker 1>get that? It's a close second. Y I go, man,

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Andre appreciate you sharing that. I mean, that was that

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:48.640
<v Speaker 1>was a picture that I don't know that anyone else

0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 1>could paint, probably, but you to be able to elaborate

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:55.520
<v Speaker 1>on that, and I know I speak for Smithie. Um,

0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:58.759
<v Speaker 1>that was really really cool. That was really cool. Yeah,

0:46:58.800 --> 0:47:02.720
<v Speaker 1>I I appreciate you guys having me on I respect. Uh.

0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:04.960
<v Speaker 1>You know Steve so much as a player as a person.

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Every time I see him, we always laugh about things.

0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure next time I see him gonna laugh about

0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 1>a few things. But he is a not only the

0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:15.839
<v Speaker 1>consummate pro he was, but every time he stepped out

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:17.920
<v Speaker 1>on the field, you're you're gonna get your best from

0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:21.280
<v Speaker 1>from eighty nine and he he showed that every single Sunday.

0:47:21.880 --> 0:47:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Um he was a credit to the game, um, a

0:47:24.840 --> 0:47:28.399
<v Speaker 1>credit to himself, his family, and again I can't wait

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 1>for him to be like that. So they took an

0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:36.360
<v Speaker 1>old picture and did that. I'm not trying to be funny,

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:45.400
<v Speaker 1>but I'm just asking pretty. It's pretty, it's pretty good. Actually,

0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:48.480
<v Speaker 1>this is the one you get. It's made a resin,

0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:52.000
<v Speaker 1>so this will last forty thousand years, and the one

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 1>in Canton is bronze, so it's like six eight thousand

0:47:57.400 --> 0:48:02.160
<v Speaker 1>h So, you know, if you don't mind me ask you,

0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:04.440
<v Speaker 1>where do you put that? Like? I mean, I know

0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:06.040
<v Speaker 1>for the show you got it right there, but yeah,

0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:09.120
<v Speaker 1>putting I have downstairs. I put it on that just

0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 1>a mantle by itself, you know, not not calling you out,

0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:15.720
<v Speaker 1>but you ever kind of walked down the hall and

0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:19.480
<v Speaker 1>you know you're having a peek atam or no, not

0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:22.560
<v Speaker 1>peek at them, but's like you you forgetty there and

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:26.399
<v Speaker 1>you know you think so you think it's a true

0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:32.239
<v Speaker 1>like hey, hey, hey, oh no, that's just me, that's

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:35.239
<v Speaker 1>just me. Hey. You walk down the hall look at

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:38.319
<v Speaker 1>it and you go, who is that? You have to

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:40.200
<v Speaker 1>go back and you have to go back and look

0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:45.000
<v Speaker 1>again and make sure. But it's it's it's coming, brother,

0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean my you know, guys like John Randall and

0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:51.319
<v Speaker 1>and guys that already been in the hall three or

0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:53.800
<v Speaker 1>four years before I was there. I just have to

0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:56.520
<v Speaker 1>have patience. You know. Patience is a virtue. It's really hard.

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:58.360
<v Speaker 1>But Dad taught me that it's hard to have patience,

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 1>especially in this world, to be a patient person, because

0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:04.879
<v Speaker 1>everybody wants it right now, give that now, now, now, now. Now.

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Patience is a virtue, man, and when that patient that

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<v Speaker 1>pays off, it was all worth it. It's all worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>You are a unique person. You are well worth it,

0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:26.879
<v Speaker 1>you are competent, and most of all, your lovable. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Singer, I'm Gerald Little John and this is

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