1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back to a Numbers Game podcast with Brian Grodski. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: Thank you all for being here again on this episode. Okay, so, 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: I know I've talked about this issue in the past 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: and I like to have a variety, but I have 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: to do a deep dive episode on jerrymandering because of 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom and California. That's right, California, here we come. Okay. 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: Over the weekend, Democrats in the state unveil their new 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: proposed partisan jerrymandered map. Now, remember, California has fifty two 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: congressional districts, the most of any state. Under the current map, 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: Democrats hold forty three seats and Republicans have nine. In 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four election, President Trump won eleven seats. 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: There are two Trump seats that have a Democratic congressman, 13 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: the thirteenth district, which is represented by Democrat Adam Gray. 14 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: He won his election by five hundred and fifty five 15 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: votes out of one hundred and thirty something that I was 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: in casts it was a very very tight election and 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: Josh Harder in California ninth is the Democrats. So the 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: state begins with overwhelming Democrat and Democratic congressional Democratic congressman 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: being disproportionately represented compared to the percentage that President Trump 20 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: received statewide. Trump won thirty eight percent of the state 21 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: wide vote, Republicans hold just nineteen percent of the seats. 22 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: It's one of actually the most extreme partisan jerry manders 23 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: when you look at it like that, aside from maybe 24 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: like New Jersey, New Mexico, and Illinois, even though it's 25 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: quote unquote New Jersey in Illinois, New Jersey and California 26 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: have quote unquote independent maps. I'm not including like Vermont, 27 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: which only has one congressional district. You know, that doesn't 28 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: that doesn't matter. But California has a very very very 29 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: partisanly jerrymandered map to begin with, that underrepresents Republicans voting 30 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: attentions statewide. But because of Texas Republican's decision to jerrymander, 31 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: they're trying Texas is I said, this is less supposed 32 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: reminding five new seats to make them more Republican. Gavin 33 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: Newsom is puffing his chest and insisting that he's going 34 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: to do the same thing for Democrats in his state. 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: It's his way of fighting Trump. I'm going to go 36 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,839 Speaker 1: over California in one minute. But I need to pull back. 37 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: Guys need to take I need to take a beat, 38 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: and I need to talk to about the finger pointing 39 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: of who is responsible for the situation we're in with 40 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: jerry mandering, Because you hear this a lot on cable 41 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: news and on the internet and on talk radio. Who 42 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: did it first? Right? Who was responsible? Democrats point to 43 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: North Carolina, Republicans point to other states. But if you 44 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: want to really understand jerry mandering, you have to go back. 45 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: You have to go back several decades. Right. Picture it 46 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, A young Ryan Grodowski is four years old. 47 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: Operation Desert Storm has commenced. The New York Giants win 48 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. On Schwarzenegger makes good on his promise 49 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: that he'll be back in TERMYO two, and a little 50 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: band named Nirvana comes out with an album call never 51 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: Mind that changes music. Also happening that year in nineteen 52 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: ninety one is redistricting. Now there are four hundred and 53 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: thirty five US House seats, State legislatures, and the governors, 54 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: especially back then, control how they are redistricted. Guess how 55 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: many of those four hundred and thirty five seats Republicans 56 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: have full control of redistricting. I'll give you a second. 57 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: The correct answer is five, yes, five of the four 58 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five seats. That is it, the three 59 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: in Utah and the two in New Hampshire. The only 60 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: other state that has a Republican full control of South Dakota, 61 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: which only has one seat and they can't jerrymander it. Democrats, 62 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: on their hand, control one thirty eight seats. They have 63 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: full control in places like New Jersey, Florida, Texas, Mississippi, Maryland, 64 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: and Virginia. In those states, Republicans end up with just 65 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: fifty three seats, even though the President won every one 66 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: of those states with the exception of two. Yet Republicans 67 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: are still overwhelmingly under represented in the Congress. And that's 68 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: not by accident. There were several very smart Democratic politicians 69 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: and activists who carefully carved out in gerrymandered important states, 70 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: and even in states where they didn't have full control, 71 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: their activists were very successful in proposing different maps and 72 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: having lawsuits in trying to prevent Republicans from gaining any 73 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: control whatsoever. From The New York Times on November eighth, 74 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety, election strengths hand on Democrat in ninety one redistricting. 75 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: This is very long. This is not a very long quot, 76 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: but this is a longer quote. But this is very important, 77 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: so listen quote. The nineteen ninety mid term election left 78 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: Democrats well positioned to protect their majority in the House 79 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: Representatives for the next decade, despite the shift in the 80 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: nation's population being more Republican in areas like the South 81 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: and the West. By winning the governorships in Texas and 82 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: Florida and maintaining just the majorities there, Democrats will have 83 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: complete control of drawing new lines for congressional districts where 84 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: the two biggest booming states. Next year, Texas will probably 85 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: gain three new seats, in Florida four in the reapportionment 86 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: of the nation's four hundred and thirty five congressional seats. 87 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: The process of redistricting is exquisitely complicated and politically brutal. 88 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: Analysts and both parties were pouring over the outcome Tuesdays, 89 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: voting to divine its full meaning for the ordeal, but 90 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: Democrats said it's clear Republicans had fallen shorten their goals 91 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: and they had set a decade ago to have enough 92 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: influence over redistricting, so they could so they could break 93 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party's thirty five year old on the House 94 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: of Representatives. Democrats are optimistic. California Republicans believe that the 95 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: boundaries drawn in the nineteen eighty one election. Remember this 96 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: is ten years before this article was written. The nineteen 97 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: eighty one election cheated them out of six House seats, 98 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: and they say that they would like in nineteen ninety 99 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: one a plan to give them some of those seats back, 100 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: as well as some of the seven new House seats 101 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: that California received that year. The last three elections for 102 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: governor have produced Republican victories, but the state's congression deligration 103 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: is eleven more Democrats than Republicans. Many politicians predict that 104 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: the entire issue of California redistricting will end up in 105 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: the courts after deadlock between the Republican governor and the 106 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: Democratic legislature. Okay, I know it was a long quote, 107 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: but think about that. Even in nineteen ninety one, the 108 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: New York Times, which was no friend of conservatives at 109 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: any point in its history, but nineteen ninety one, is 110 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: sit in there and saying California in the eighties, this 111 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: is when Reagan was president, was carved up and jerrymannered 112 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: to support Democratic congressman. And remember, Reagan never had the 113 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: House of Representatives. The House of Representatives has been at 114 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: that point in nineteen ninety from nineteen ninety four backwards 115 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: right before the new Englishe election from nineteen thirty four 116 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: to nineteen ninety for over sixty years. Democrats controlled the 117 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: House for fifty six of those sixty years. So let's 118 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: look at Texas now. In nineteen ninety one nineteen ninety one, 119 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: there's a congressman named Martin Frost who represented a district 120 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: in Dallas. He represented from nineteen seventy nine to two 121 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: thousand and five. He represents the seat that Beth Van 122 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: Dyne currently holds. It's in like the Dallas mixture of 123 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: Dallas and some of the suburbs. Frost was endangered of 124 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: losing his seat, not to Republicans, but because minority Democrats 125 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: were demanding more representation for black and Hispanic congressmen. Well 126 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: he worked. Frost worked with a state senator by the 127 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: name of Eddie Bernice Johnson to create black majority district 128 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: in Dallas that she ran for and she won. That 129 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: is currently occupied by Jasmine Crockett Johnson and Frost worked 130 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: together to protect all nineteen incommon Democrats and create new 131 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: areas that for three black and Hispanic majority districts that 132 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: would vote Democrat in the future. This forced Republicans to 133 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: hold just eight seats in the Texas congressional election. The 134 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: Almanac of American Politics says called their jerrymandering quote the 135 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: shrewdest jerrymander of the nineteen nineties, ensuring that Democrats would 136 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 1: win fifty three percent of all seats in super safe 137 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: districts despite the fact that Republican Congression accudiates won fifty 138 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: three percent of the popular vote in the state. They 139 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: purposely carved up Texas six ways from Sunday Now I 140 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: had mentioned the New York Times article about California in 141 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: the eighties. California in the nineties also came up to 142 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: an immense complicated redistricting. Why. There's two men responsible. They're 143 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: called the Burton brothers, Philip and John Burton, and they 144 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: were masterminds at redistricting California throughout the eighties and nineties. 145 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: Philip was the mastermind of the nineteen eighty one map 146 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: that the New York Times cited. He passed away nineteen 147 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: eighty three, but his brother John, who was still with 148 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: us at the age of ninety two, continue the family 149 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: legacy in the nineteen ninety one redistricting. Now Democrats control 150 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: the legislator, but Republicans had the governorship with Governor Pete Wilson. 151 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: John worked with asseliment Speaker Willie Brown and used his 152 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: brother's blueprint that he made in nineteen eighty like using 153 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: the Voting Rights Act to confine Republicans and make more 154 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: minority districts that would vote Democrat, especially to draw white 155 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: Republicans in as few seats as possible. Now, this map 156 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: was vetoed by the governor, and the courts got involved, 157 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: and ultimately the former Republican governor, Okay, I'm gonna say 158 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: his name, but you know I can never pronounce the name, 159 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: probably George Duke Majine drew the lines. And while it's 160 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: obvious that the Republican involved, but he kind of used 161 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: an outlook to protect incumbents, right, So he didn't overturn 162 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty maps that were jerrymandered. He just kind 163 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: of drew the lines. He made it so that incumbents 164 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: were not drawn out of districts. That districts weren't encompassing 165 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: only Republican seats, and he gave it to I mean 166 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: I give it to Democrats. They held the complaint, and 167 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: in the end, despite getting all these new congressional seats 168 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: and having a Republican draw the map, Republicans gained a 169 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: net of just one House seat in all of California, 170 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:18,119 Speaker 1: and they only defeated one incumbent Democrat in California. Democrats 171 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: used the Voting Rights Act, Section two of the Voting 172 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: Rights actively particular and partisan Jerry manderin and lawsuits to 173 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: protect the map because they thought it would prevent the 174 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: impossibility of Republicans winning back the House in the nineties. 175 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: They thought they were going to continue their fifty six 176 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: of sixty years of domination in the nineties, which is 177 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: why the Republican Revolution of nineteen ninety four is truly 178 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: a miracle. It was never ever supposed to happen. Democrats 179 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: drew the maps to prevent it from ever happening. And 180 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a hot take. And this 181 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: is something you do not hear on cable television, and 182 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: especially if you are a person of a certain age, 183 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: if you are a baby boomer or an older gen xer. 184 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that to be disrespectful, but if 185 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: you are, you heard this legacy of new Gingridge and 186 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: his contract with America, and it is mostly nonsense. The 187 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: reason that the Republicans won was not so much to 188 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: do with new Gingridge or his contract with America. It 189 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: was to do with Hillary Clinton and her attempt to 190 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: take over the nation's healthcare system with hillary Care. The 191 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: number one issue in exit polls on election date in 192 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four was not the economy, it was not taxes, 193 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: it was not almost anything new was talking about. It 194 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: was healthcare. And voters were fuming that Hillary Clinton wanted 195 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: to take over the nation's health care. So when you 196 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: hear Democrats say that Republicans started this and point to 197 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: North Carolina and point to Texas currently, no, that's absolutely 198 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: not true. Democrats have been doing this since before I 199 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: was born, in the nineteen eighties, with the Burden Brothers, 200 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: in the nineteties, with Martin Frost and Texas, and to 201 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: a certain extent, I don't blame them. They had the power. 202 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:02,359 Speaker 1: Republicans had no power. Remember, I mean the Republican Democrats 203 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: whine and complain and progresses in the media run cover 204 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: for them. But the truth is the Democrats long before 205 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: Greg Abbott ever rolled over to his desk to create 206 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: five Republican districts, Republicans had no power in large parts 207 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: of this country, going back to like the reconstruction of 208 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: the Solid South, the Solid South, the southern states like Mississippi, Alabama, 209 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: arkets of West Virginia. Republicans didn't gain control of those 210 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: state legislators until twenty ten, after I had gone through puberty. 211 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: Twenty ten is a very long time ago. That's how 212 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: long Democrats control. One hundred and forty, one hundred and 213 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: fifty years they had direct control of the Deep South. 214 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: And going back until the nineteen fifties is when the 215 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: Democrats contrade gain control places like California and Connecticut, and 216 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: they gained control of like New Jersey and Illinois in 217 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies, and they have always had control places 218 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: like Maryland. You know the animosity towards Republicans for the 219 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: Civil War specifically, I mean that's what it was. Because 220 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: they freed the slaves, they had a locked out of 221 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: a huge portion of this country. And then you have 222 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: like the Great Depression, Herbert Hoover and his Misshandley Great Depression, 223 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: which locks him out of other parts of this country 224 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: for decades. It's only until Hillary Clinton shows up on 225 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: the scene that America says, no, I'm done with this 226 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: Democratic Party, you know, not today satan like that. Literally 227 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: was the catalyst that changed everything was Hillary Clinton not 228 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: just getting Trump e liked it, but really giving Republicans 229 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: a chance to control local legislatures, redistricting, and the House 230 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: representatives for the first time in a generation. People imagine 231 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: that there's just a gone time when people didn't use 232 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: political power to influence congressional redistricting, and they are living 233 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: in a fantasy. There was power being used, but it 234 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: was only basically on one side because they had all 235 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: the power. Well, they did it. And now I'm going 236 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: to expla how that history lesson applies in context to 237 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: what's going on in California today. That's coming up next. Okay, 238 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: now the history lesson's over, Let's talk about the map 239 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: with Gavin Newsom's pushing in California. The map essentially moves 240 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: four Republican districts from being lean or likely Republican to 241 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: being all but safe Democrat representative Lamafa's district in northern 242 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: California goes from Trump plus twenty five to Harris plus twelve. 243 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: Represent Ken Kevin Kiley's district goes from Trump plus four 244 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: to Harris plus ten, Darryl IS's district goes from Trump 245 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: plus fifteen to Harris plus three, and Ken Calvert's district 246 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: goes from Trump plus six to Harris plus fourteen. David Valdeo, 247 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: he's a moderate Republican who's in the Central Valley. His 248 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: district moves the left, but it's still a swing district 249 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: in the honesty, probably when it David Valdeo performs very 250 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: strongly as a local politician for Republicans. Young Kim j Alberton, 251 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: Tom McClintock, and Vincent Fong all have their districts become 252 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: super safe Republican. Right they go from there like Trump 253 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: plus twelve to Trump plus thirty. They're absolutely going to 254 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: win every time they put every Republican in those four 255 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: districts essentially. Now, remember when I told you that In 256 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: Texas back in the nineteen nineties, state Senator Eddie Bernice 257 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: Johnson jerry mannered herself a majority black tister so she 258 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: could run for Congress. That was part of her deal 259 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: that she got a seat. That same exact thing is 260 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: happening in California today. Senate Leader Mike McGuire drew himself 261 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: a safe Democratic seat in northern California as part of 262 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: this deal. Right, the most interesting development about this map 263 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: is they could have actually gone even further. Democrats could 264 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: have actually taken out six or seven Republicans. They really 265 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: have that kind of vote lead in California. And I'm 266 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: not endorsing that map, but I'm saying it's interesting that 267 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: they didn't. But why didn't they? Right, think for a second, 268 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: why wouldn't they go even further when they could, when 269 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: they could even gain from compared to what Texas is doing. 270 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: Because vulnerable incumbents like Josh Harder, he currently represents the 271 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: Trump district. Well, his new district is Harris plus eleven, 272 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: Adam Gray, that other Trump Republican, that other Democrat who 273 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: oh sorry, Trump Democrat, the Democrat who represents a Trump seat. 274 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: His seat moved six points to the left. A bunch 275 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: of vulnerable Democrats were asked to shore up their districts 276 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: become more democratic rather than knocking out another few Republicans 277 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: and I have thoughts about this. First, Democrats in California 278 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: are aware that the ground is shifting below them. Remember 279 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton won California by thirty points. Kamala Harris, who 280 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: is from the state and is one state wide elections 281 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: there and represented in the United States Senate, she won 282 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: California by twenty points. Now, I'm not saying that California 283 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: will shift another ten points. I don't know that, but 284 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: there have been indicators that the Golden State is trending 285 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: towards Republicans, even after the twenty twenty four election, even 286 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: after that ten point shift. Over the two elections from 287 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: November twenty twenty four to March twenty twenty five, Republicans 288 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: have gained one hundred and thirty eight thousand new members 289 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: of their party in their voter roles. Democrats have gained 290 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: twelve thousand. Independences gained the most with one hundred and 291 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: fifty five thousand, but one hundred and thirty eight thousand 292 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: to twelve thousand, ten times as many new Republicans as 293 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: new Democrats in California. Politics is not a pond. It 294 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: is not stagnant, is a river. It is changing. Every 295 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: day someone is born, someone turns eighteen, someone becomes a citizen, 296 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: someone moves out of the country, someone dies, five change, 297 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: parties change different candidates are elected to be the face 298 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: of the party. So while they understand the state is changing, 299 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: I don't think that the Democrats realize by how much. 300 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: Because their map is more aggressive and sloppy than the 301 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: Texas map, the Texa congressional map. You can say a 302 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: lot of it, but really none of the states even 303 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: in when you compare to the governor's election, which is worse, 304 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: which is on par with Trump's election, but different kinds 305 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: of coalitions, less support among Hispanics, less among support among 306 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: South Texans. None of the seats are swingdish districts. Maybe one. 307 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: Maybe one in South Texas would be a swing district. 308 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: In California, nine of the seats are swing districts when 309 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: you compare them to how other Republicans performed only in 310 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: the last two years. Shawan trend of Real Clear Politics, 311 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: pointed this out, and sotead that the map gets the 312 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: job done for Democrats in twenty twenty six, but there's 313 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: a big question as of twenty twenty eight and beyond. 314 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: Let's say California ships half as much as it did 315 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: between twenty twenty and twenty twenty four. So it moves 316 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: five points. Well, instead of four safe Republican seats, you 317 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: have six, and instead of two swing districts, who have eight. 318 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: Let's say shifts another a whole ten points. Let's say 319 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: it is continuation. Let's say Republicans are gonna win California 320 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: by ten or eleven points in twenty twenty eight, which 321 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: I know I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but let's 322 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: say it does, because it just did. If that ten 323 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: point shift happens, well, you have ten safe Republican seats, 324 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: seven more swing seats. The ground is changing very very quickly. 325 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: This map is tactical for what it understands and protecting incumbents, 326 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: and there needs being needs to be protections because their 327 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: ground is shifting. But I don't think they understand how 328 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: severe it is. And that means that this map could 329 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: become a dummy mander, not a gerrymander. If the state 330 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: ships half the rate as it did over the last 331 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: eight years, a trend that we're not only seeing throughout 332 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: the country, we're seeing all over the anglosphere, well, then 333 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: Democrats doomed a lot of their own incumbents, including incumbents 334 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: who just gave up tons of Democratic voters to protect 335 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: other incumbents. It might not work for anybody. Now, how 336 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: realistic is that this map will become law? The Democrats 337 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: have the votes to get it through the legislator. They 338 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: have a super majority in both the state Senate and 339 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: the State Assembly. While they lost seats in the last election, 340 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: they still have seventy five percent of the vote. After 341 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: they get it through the legislature. News some will have 342 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: three months to put this on the ballot in November. 343 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: It will have to spend millions to pass it. Remember, 344 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: California currently as an independent commissioner thanks to Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. 345 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: Schwarzenegger and former Speaker Kevin McCarthy are preparing to spend 346 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: about one hundred and fifty million dollars to defeat this 347 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: ballot initiative, which is significantly more than Republicans usually spend 348 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: in California. In twenty twenty two, the Republican GOP candidate, 349 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: who received forty one percent of the vote, spent two 350 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: point six million dollars on his election, and polls show 351 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: that independent redistricting is very popular a poll by the 352 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: University of California at Berkeley found that voters opposed Newsom's 353 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: plan by a margin of sixty four to thirty six. Incidentally, 354 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: Newsome just released a poll as of the record of 355 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: this podcast, saying that his internal show that this is 356 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: actually very popular. Don't know if I believe that the 357 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: devil is really in the details, because it depends on 358 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: how the cons Social Amendment is written. I'm sure they're 359 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: going to try to write to be as vague and 360 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: confusing as possible. But if Republicans throw their weight behind 361 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: this and registration, register new voters, and put action behind this, 362 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: it could ultimately backfire on Democrats and their efforts to redistrict. 363 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: It's also a special election, however, Californias aren't supposed to 364 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: be voting this November, so only higher propensity voters will matter. 365 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: They'll matter a lot more, and that could tip the 366 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: scales for Newsom and he can get this jerrymander Dune, 367 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: who knows. In the end. I don't think Newsom cares 368 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: so much about this map for twenty twenty six because 369 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: it's not about twenty twenty six, it's about twenty twenty eight. 370 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: It's about whether or not he will or won't be 371 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: the Democratic nominee when American. When America was having their 372 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: racial reckoning in twenty twenty, Knewsome supported reparations for slaves 373 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: in his state, like the ancestors of slaves in California. 374 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: Not that there were any, but if there were, ever, 375 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: maybe there's a handful. They all get money. He supported 376 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: that effort when being loyal to Biden mattered, despite his 377 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: cognitive decline, despite everything, he was Biden's biggest champion, totally 378 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: ignored all the situation going on when being bipartisan was 379 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: a thing to do. Right up to the election. Well, 380 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: he had Charlie Kirk and Stee Band on his podcast 381 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: and told him how his kids listen to them. Now, 382 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: the plan is to be the biggest resist Lib. And 383 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: Newsom is going to be the biggest resist Lib in 384 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: the entire country. Why because he's the candidate for anybody. 385 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: He sheds his skin like the snake he is, and 386 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: he'll do anything to be the nominee. In twenty twenty eight. 387 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: We'll be back with Ask Me Anything next. Now it's 388 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: time for the Ask Me Anything segment of this podcast. 389 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: If you want a part of the ask me anything segment, 390 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: please email me Ryan at numbers Game podcast dot com. 391 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: That's Ryan at numbers Game podcast dot com. I look 392 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: forward to these emails and some of them are so interesting. 393 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: This one from Ryan Fox on our last episode. I 394 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: answered it, but I didn't feel like I answered it 395 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: to its fullest, so I actually relooked at it. He asked, 396 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: what would our legislator Senate look like if the seventeenth Amendment, 397 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: which allows for the direct election of senators, if that 398 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: never had been ratified, what will we how would the 399 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: map look if we still had the legislators picking out 400 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: the Senate? And I said, I didn't feel like the 401 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: answer I gave last time was actually sufficient, so I 402 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: went fall autists. Not that I am. I don't mean 403 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: disrespectfully any autistic listeners, but I went full autists. And 404 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: I spent so much time looking at elections of US 405 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: senators compared to how the legislature was made up at 406 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: the time to try to get the best possible answer 407 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: I possibly could for what it would look like currently. 408 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: And based on my calculation, if the state legislators were 409 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: picking the senators at the time of their election, there 410 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: will be sixty two Republican senators and thirty eight Democrats. 411 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: Obviously much different than the map we currently have. The 412 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: biggest changeould get the Midwest would basically all have Republican 413 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: senators except for Illinois. New Hampshire to have two Republican senators. 414 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: Georgia and Arizona would have two Republican senators. Maine would 415 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: have two Democrats, so no Susan Collins. Unfortunately. The only 416 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: state that I wasn't sure about there's two states, Alaska 417 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: and Minnesota. Alaska is a very strange date when it 418 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: comes to a local government, there you have fusion governments. 419 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: We're based like a bunch of Republicans don't like the 420 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: other Republicans, so they call themselves the true Republicans, and 421 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: then the other Republicans work with the Democrats. So I 422 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: counted as they would ele liked one Republican and one independent. 423 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: And Minnesota their margins are so tight depending on the year, 424 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: and there's a few independents in the legislature, so I 425 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: put it as one Republican and one Democrat, just you know, 426 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: for argument's sake and my best guests. And so that's 427 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: why I got with sixty two Republicans and thirty eight Democrats, 428 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: it would be a different country. But thank you Brian 429 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: Fox with that answer. I actually really enjoyed doing that research, 430 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: like way too much anyway. Next question is from Bill 431 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: to Bias. He has a question on Colorado's declining support 432 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: for Republicans. He asked if the declining number of workers 433 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: in the state, if there was a declined number of 434 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: workers in the state in the gas, boil and mining industry, 435 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: because they would likely vote for Republicans. The short answer 436 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: is yes. The number of people who directly work in 437 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: the field of oil mining and gas has declined pretty substantially. 438 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: They went from thirty three thousand jobs in twenty nineteen 439 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: to twenty thousand jobs in twenty twenty two. They went 440 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: up a little bit in twenty twenty three, but they're 441 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: nowhere near the twenty nineteen numbers. But even though they 442 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: say that they've had this slight increase in jobs, they 443 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: make up less than one percent of the state's workforce. 444 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: And remember, three million people voted in Colorado in the 445 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: last presidential election. It's just that Colorado has just become 446 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: a destination for progressives who can't deal with California's high taxes. 447 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: Anymore and that's just what it is. And also a 448 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: lot of Hispanic migration. So those two things have kind 449 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: of made the state into this ever growing blue you know, 450 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 1: blue paradise, I guess in the middle of our country 451 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: in the mountains, and you know, there's also art festivals 452 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: and other things in the environment and hiking and you know, 453 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, there's a lot of things that everything 454 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: attract certain people that lifestyle who lean progressive. I think 455 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: the same thing as like the Pacific Northwest, as a 456 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: lot of people are attracted to that kind of lifestyle 457 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: who are aggressive. So that's why Cholorason situation they're in, 458 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: and that's why they're one of the few states who 459 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: despite everything great that happened in twenty twenty four for Republicans, 460 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: is not looking like they are gaining much support in 461 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: the future. Well that's our show today. If you like 462 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: this podcast, please like and subscribe on the iHeartRadio app 463 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: Apple podcast where we get your podcast and I will 464 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: see you guys on Monday.