WEBVTT - Organizing Your Home with Janelle Cohen 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.240 Follow Cheeky's and Chill on Amazon Music. Just head to 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:06.560 Amazon dot com slash Cheeky's and check out even more 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:10.400 podcasts by Michael Dura throughout Hispanic Heritage month. Listen to 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:13.400 my latest episode of Cheeky's and Chill on Amazon Music. 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:17.239 At Amazon dot com slash Cheeky's and listen to Cheeky's 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:20.239 and Chill on Amazon Music, or ask Alexa to play 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:26.079 Cheeky's and Chill on Amazon Music. What is one of 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:29.360 the biggest mistakes to lead to like a disorganized area. 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:31.880 I would say having too much stuff for the space 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:34.880 that you have is the biggest mistake you can make. 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:39.800 Being organized is not about being perfect. Being organized is 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:42.760 about having easy cleanup, having systems in place so that 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.640 getting your life back on track is quick and easy. 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:49.199 I have a new fiance. I'm learning to pick and 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:50.760 choose my battles. I'm like, I don't want to argue 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:53.680 about the silliest thing. So there's socks and then pants 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:54.840 that again he wants to wear you. 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:55.880 Oh the song? 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:57.840 The song? 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:02.680 You know what I love about Mondays? Besides the fact 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:05.200 that there's a new Cheeks and Chill episode, I love 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:07.480 that Monday's are the start of a brand new week, 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:10.760 and that means a brand new start. And that's what 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:13.319 we're going to be talking about today, fresh new starts. 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:17.119 We're going to be talking to Janelle Cohen, a professional organizer. 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.279 She's going to teach us how to take our old 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:25.160 living and working spaces and turn them into cleaner, fresher spaces. 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:33.520 This is Cheeky's and chill. Sitting here with me today 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:37.320 is none other than the organizer to the stars, Janelle Cohen. 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:39.959 When she's not busy fixing the homes of Jay Shaddy 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:42.600 or the founders of Alo Yoga, you can catch here 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:46.160 on TV shows like The Today Show or Good Morning America. 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.240 She's also been featured in a number of publications like 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:51.840 The Washington Post. Hi Janelle, It's so good to see 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:52.280 you again. 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:53.520 So nice to see you. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.000 Thanks for having me, of course, thank you for taking 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.360 the time. And I just want hopefully you're proud. My 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.480 house still looks nice and and so does my pantry. 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:03.000 Good glad to hear it. 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.520 Well, a little backstory, you guys, how I met Janelle. 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:09.119 I saw her on Instagram and I had her come 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:11.040 to my house and just organize my life. So she 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:13.280 started with my pantry, and then from there I was like, 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.480 can you you also like decorate and I love the 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:17.000 way you do it? 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:18.560 Can you do that? So she did that for me. 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.120 She did the entire house because when I first bought 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.640 this house, I was traveling and I didn't have the 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:25.720 time or the energy or the mental space to do it. 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:27.520 So I just said, here, this is kind of what 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.520 I want. Can you just take over? And that is 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.160 how whatever you see on Instagram, you guys, because I 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.320 haven't really shown my house like too much, but whatever 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.359 you see in the background is all her. Everything, the kitchen, 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.480 my bedroom, everything is Janelle. So I'm proud of that. 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:42.639 Thank you. 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:44.799 I love you so much to hear. Yeah, and you 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.079 also have a book I did it called Again. It's 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:48.080 in my laundry room. 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.360 The folding book, and the laundry room is the perfect 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.480 place to put it. As you're doing laundry, you learn 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.520 how to fold everything, so you nail the location. 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:00.440 Yes, I have it there, because especially like men's shirts, 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:02.960 if they don't hang them or get them like dry cleaned, 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.520 and they're just not like hanging. It's there's a certain 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.600 way of in your book, you explain this of folding 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:10.880 them very nicely where it also helps you save space, 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.760 you guys everything. It's honestly, when when you came out 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:15.079 with the book, I was like, what the heck, I've 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:17.560 never I never thought about that, But there's there's an 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.480 art to folding your clothes the correct way in order 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.000 to have more space you guys. 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.320 So yes, and it also reduces wrinkles. It takes better 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:27.280 care of your clothes. You can see everything you have, 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.720 and it's like a free skill that you can learn 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:34.560 to better your home and you don't have to spend anything. Yeah, 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.000 you know, you can totally transform your space just by 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:37.880 learning a new skill. 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.400 Mm hmmm. I think that was genius. I love that. 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:41.080 I love that. 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.000 Thank you, and I'm so happy for you because you 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:44.840 were already doing amazing before I met you. But now 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:46.320 I'm like, I feel like I see you everywhere, and 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:47.560 you know, kind of like when you buy a car 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:48.880 and you're like, oh, I'm gonna get this car because 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.040 no one has it, and then and then you see 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:53.120 it everywhere. I feel like, oh my god. I feel 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.000 like Janelle was my little secret kind of and now 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:56.920 I'm like she's everywhere, but no, I had seen you 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.320 on someone's like very famous. I mean, I mean, come on, 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.840 you you organize Jay Shatty's I'm a huge fan of Jayshetdy. 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:03.560 You organized his. 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:05.720 Whole yn But I feel like I see you everywhere now, 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:06.400 which is awesome. 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:06.960 I'm happy for you. 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.080 Oh, thank you, thank you so much. That means a 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:09.760 lot coming from you. 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:12.520 Oh, thank you. Of course, You're very welcome. Okay, So 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:16.160 tell me what got you into organizing. I'm just curious 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:18.839 because it's something that was always a part of your life. 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:20.760 It is just something because it comes natural or did 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:22.040 it come natural or I don't know. Tell me a 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:22.719 little bit about that. 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:26.000 Yeah. Actually, what's funny is that during the pandemic, I 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:29.760 started looking through old childhood videos of myself. And at 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.159 this point I already had started my business. But I 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.479 found a video of myself at two years old, folding 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:38.520 perfectly with an iron and I had no recollection of 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:40.960 that being a part of who I was as a child, 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.640 neither did my parents. But clearly there was something there, 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:49.800 you know. But I got into professional organizing clearly by accident. 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.360 It was a Mother's Day gift for my mom. I 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.600 was going to do her pantry, her pantry is amazing, 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:58.040 but was a hot mess, and so I decided I 0:04:58.080 --> 0:04:59.520 was going to figure it out. I was going to 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.320 redo it, and I did, and I posted pictures on Facebook, 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.160 some befores and afters, and people started commenting and they 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:05.680 were like. 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:07.480 Can you come do mine? Can you come do mine? 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:09.800 And I was like, why the heck not? Might as well? 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:14.240 So I started doing people's pantries and then closets, and 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.160 I was like, you know what, I really love this. 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:20.000 This is my passion. I at the time was acting, 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:23.359 so it wasn't like I was on that path or 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.280 on that journey, and I just took a right turn 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:27.520 and I was like, you know what, I'm going to 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:29.000 double down on this, and I think I can turn 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:30.720 this into a really successful business. 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.840 That's what I did, and you definitely did because with 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.440 my pantry, you guys, mine was also a hot ass mess, 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:40.440 and she color coordinated the candy and everything. It's just 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.080 you walk in there and it's so esthetically pleasing and 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:44.720 everything is so easy to find. 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.719 It's just I was like, Wow, maybe I could have 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:49.200 done this, but it's like it takes. 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:51.640 But then I sat there, I'm like wait a second, no, 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:53.640 Like I wouldn't have thought about this to be on it. 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:55.440 So I'm like, so we need to know in our life. 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:57.839 So that's awesome. Yeah, But what I really want to 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:01.479 talk to you about is like helping people now like organize. 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.200 We're going into like a new year, and it's like 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.720 you want to feel fresh and just start your year 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.320 on the right foot. So let's talk about what is 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:12.200 one of the biggest mistakes that someone does around the 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.800 house to lead to like a disorganized area. 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.680 I would say having too much stuff for the space 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:22.720 that you have is definitely the biggest mistake you can make, 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:26.440 because you need to live for what your current circumstances 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.480 are in your current space. I also think if your 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.960 storage isn't serving you, then you need to create storage 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:37.480 that basically holds what you have without going crazy. But 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.760 I will say that that is my number one thing. 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.919 I believe you should be at seventy five percent capacity 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:47.560 in all areas of your home. That gives you room 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:51.480 to increase, decrease, move things around, tetris a little bit, 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.520 and it gives you wiggle room because there are days 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.039 where things aren't perfect. Do you think my laundry is perfect? 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.800 And put away one hundred percent of the time. Absolutely not, 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:04.520 because being organized is not about being perfect. Being organized 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:07.960 is about having easy cleanup, having systems in place so 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:11.080 that getting your life back on track is quick and easy. 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:13.080 I live in a one bedroom apartment, and if my 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:17.120 apartment gets a little crazy, which a one bedroom apartment 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.200 can get real crazy, real quick, I can set a 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.160 ten minute timer and snap it back in ten minutes. 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.960 That is the key to being organized, because everything has 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:27.400 a place. 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:28.559 You know where it's going. 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.480 You're not trying to figure it out and make it work. 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:33.880 You know where it goes, you know what you have, 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.200 and you can you know, get back to square one. 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:38.680 Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Everything should have 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:42.520 a place. And one thing I've noticed about myself is 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:46.200 that I'm very excessive, you know what I mean. Like 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.840 I feel like I buy one or two of the 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.120 same thing. It's like I should just have one and 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:54.160 when that's about to you know, run out or something, 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:57.240 I can get the other one. I have that thing 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.320 that I'm really trying to work through. But also, do 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.640 you suggest for people before they start organizing, obviously, like declutter, 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.440 Like before you come into my closet, I'd like to 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.360 remove everything that I'm no longer using or no longer 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.400 fits me in order for you to come in and say, okay, 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.400 I'm going to organize what you are going to wear, 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:15.520 for instance. 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.239 Yes, so I would say, I mean the biggest part 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:22.160 of organizing is what I call the edit, so basically 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.760 doing the decluttering, figuring out what you use. But it's 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.600 actually funny that you mentioned that you like to have 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:32.080 two of something, right. I actually believe that you're going 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.920 to think this is crazy and shocking, but I believe 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.439 that you shouldn't have just like one of everything. Figure 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.560 out what you actually like, what you actually wear. Double 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.160 down on that. So for me, I know what T 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:46.280 shirt I like, right, I like this one specific T shirt. 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.200 I like this cut, I like it in that size, 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:49.800 and these are the colors that I like it in. 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.839 And I don't have five different kinds of T shirts 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.240 where I'm constantly going to the same one. I have 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:58.120 five of the same T shirt because I wear them. 0:08:58.040 --> 0:08:58.760 All the time. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.440 That's who who I am and what I believe is 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:05.200 like the best thing if you feel like you have 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:07.320 to have a little black dress in your wardrobe because 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.520 it's just like you have to, but you never wear dresses. 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:13.480 That's silly, right. You have to curate your closet or 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.400 your home in general to what your needs are because 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:19.160 everybody's needs are different, so there's no formula, but you 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:25.720 absolutely editing is the most important part of organizing because 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:27.640 you don't want to organize a bunch of stuff that 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.960 you don't need, and that's the clutter, that's the clutter 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:31.640 in your mind. 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.520 Oh absolutely, And that's how I feel right now. I'm like, 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:36.439 there's so much shit in my closet that I don't need, 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:38.680 that I don't wear anymore, that doesn't fit me, and 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.280 I hold onto it because I'm like, damn, it has 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.080 a price tag. But I'm like, you know what, I 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:43.839 can donate it, like, don't look at it. It's kind 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:45.800 of like paying it forward sort of thing. There's another 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:47.920 word for it. I can't think of it, but it's like, Okay, 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:49.960 donate it. Don't look at it like you're throwing it out. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:52.280 And that makes me feel better too, like I'm like, Okay, 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.400 I'm gonna donate it and hopefully this will help someone 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:55.400 else exactly. 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.200 There's that, and it's also making room for things that 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.520 serve you, because every single spot in your house is 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:05.240 valuable and you don't want to be having it filled 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:08.920 up with stuff that doesn't serve you right, and it 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.720 also helps you to shop smarter in the future. So 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:13.960 you're gonna look at the things that have price tags 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:15.960 on them that you're donating, and you're gonna say, why 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.760 didn't I wear this because it didn't make me feel good? 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.880 I didn't like that color on me, it wasn't comfortable, 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.560 it required a specific kind of bra that I hate wearing, 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:26.720 and then you don't buy that again. 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:28.319 That is key. 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:32.000 You learn exactly what you like, what fits your lifestyle, 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:34.920 and you cater what you have to that. It's also 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.960 important to remember that you don't have to declutter in 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.040 one big session. If you go let's say you open 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:42.880 your drawer and you're gonna grab a T shirt if 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.040 you're moving past a T shirt because you don't want 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:46.439 to wear it, because it doesn't look good on you, 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.680 you don't like it, whatever, rather than just like pushing 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:51.920 past it and finding what you're looking for, just put 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:55.400 that into a basket. Start a donation basket, so it's 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:56.400 just you have that. 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.800 I've been doing that is like literally two months ago. 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:00.400 I started it. 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:02.560 I'm like Okay, this is like I'm not gonna wear 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:03.720 basket and I'm gonna donate it. 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:05.320 Oh my god, I'm good. I'm on there. 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:08.079 There you go, And honestly, it adds up one little 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.000 thing here and there, and then it's like then you 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:13.160 see the drawer differently every time you go to it. 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.920 It's just little pieces. Of course, a huge edit and 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:18.000 having a big pile of clothes that you get rid 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.360 of is amazing. But if that feels too overwhelming, there's 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.840 other ways of doing it, which like the little donation basket. 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:25.680 I always have one of those, going, are you kidding me? 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:27.120 Yeah? Absolutely? 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:38.120 How did you start working like with all these huge celebrities. 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.280 Is it something that did you go knocking on their 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:42.719 doors or did they see you somewhere? Yeah, tell me 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:43.520 a little bit about that. 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:45.720 Yeah, actually not at all. 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.360 I mean I just was doing what I was doing. 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.400 I was posting on Instagram sharing what I was doing. 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.319 And the first celebrity that reached out to me was 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.720 Jordan Woods and she just DMed me one day and 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.400 I had like no followers. Really, she just like friend, 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.040 I guess followed me and she was like I'm looking 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.280 to like organize and her friends sent my page to 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.200 her and the rest is history, and then me and 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:10.760 her became friends through it. And yeah, it was so random. 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:12.959 I was sitting at I was watching The Bachelrette with 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:13.920 my girlfriends and I was like. 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:17.880 I think Jordan Woods just DMed me. It was so wild. 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:22.400 Yeah, But honestly, a lot of assistance is how I've networked. 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.120 Okay, I've gotten some. 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:28.920 Very very very cool, iconic clients that I can't I've 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:31.760 signed NDA's and I can't share that I worked with them. 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:35.680 But that part's really hard because I'm so it's so 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:39.000 exciting and awesome, but it's like I'm their safe space. 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:39.960 I'm this like. 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:43.040 Little fairy, little organizing fairy that just comes in and 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:44.960 I'm just for them. They don't have to share me 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:48.720 with everybody. Yeah. But like I got to do Lance Bass, 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.320 which was so cool and I was like, this is 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:52.920 my childhood. 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:54.840 Dream, that is and I said that to him. I 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:55.840 was like, little. 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:59.280 Janelle would be freaking out right now, Like I don't 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.680 even know like how me as a child would have 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:03.880 processed what I was doing and seeing. 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.040 I was like this is insane. I would I probably 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.679 would have been there right there with you. Yeah, but 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:08.920 it was. 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.760 Honestly, it's just all referral. All my clients are referral, 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:15.920 just word of mouth and building trust and just continue 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:19.160 working hard and focusing on that and then the rest comes. 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:21.679 Yes, because you are very very good at what you do. 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:23.880 And what I noticed is like you go, you do 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:25.679 your thing. I think you guys put on like music 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:27.719 you had in your little Yeah, you almost like you're 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:29.640 not even there. And I'm just like, oh, okay, Like 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:31.520 you're just so respectful and I think that goes a 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.800 long way. And obviously, yeah, people recommend you so absolutely 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:35.200 thank you. 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:36.240 Yeah, I love that. 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:38.239 I get in the zone. I listened to some podcasts 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.960 so there, Yeah. 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.079 Awesome, awesome, I know it Chigi's and Chill. You don't 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:43.000 have to say that now, but no. 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.600 I always I have everybody, so are you kidding? Awesome? 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:49.040 I think that's where I saw you the first time. 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:52.560 I'm actually on Jordan Wood's Instagram and I think she 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.520 was saying thank you for I didn't know. I thought 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.240 you were just organizing. But then you're like, oh, thank 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.240 you for helping me decorate. She said something like that, 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.679 and I'm like, oh my gosh. You Also it's heck yes, 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:02.440 so it just saved my life. 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.920 I did her house for MTV Cribs. 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:06.319 Oh you did? Okay? 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.520 Yes? And I love the it was so clean and 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:10.800 the colors. I was like, I sound kind of like that. 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:11.360 I want that. 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.760 Yeah, okay, So tell us a little bit more about organizing, Like, 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:16.720 are there, like, what are key things? I don't know, 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:18.720 two or three or maybe five if you have them, 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.600 like things that people can do right away to start 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:23.560 like just organizing their life a little bit better. 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:24.320 Okay. 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:28.040 Number one thing just to get like the aesthetic that 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.080 you see on Instagram. You know that, Like organizing, perfection 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:35.000 is symmetry and having everything matching. So if you get 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.359 the organizing bug and you're gonna go get some baskets, 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:41.680 some new hangers, whatever labels, you name it, there's so 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:45.000 many different things get all the same. You don't know 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:47.200 how many times I go into people's houses and they 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.960 have twenty different bins and none of them match, and 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.480 none of them is little. It's just like chaos. And 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.800 it's like you want your organizing to be cohesive, and 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.320 it makes a really big difference. So if you get 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.960 the organizing bug and you're gonna go buy some bass 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:06.240 gets have the whole house match. Yes, that's number one. Labels. 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:11.720 Labels is so so key to being able to maintain 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:16.600 a space because there's accountability and it's also communication with 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:18.840 everyone in the house. Usually it's not just one person 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.760 in a home. Usually there's multiple people using a space 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.520 and you don't want to have to micromanage it or 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:26.720 you be the only one that knows where things go, 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:28.800 So you need to have labels. They don't need to 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:32.520 be too specific. It could just say snacks or breakfast 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.240 or whatnot. Okay, so labels is key. 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:37.600 What else? Ooh? 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:41.600 One thing is if you notice that there's like an 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:45.320 area that constantly gets cluttered, so like let's say by 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.760 the door, or like there's a spot in your bedroom. 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.280 I'll give use my fiance as an example. 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:54.680 He likes to put clothes that are not like fully dirty, 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:58.560 but not fully clean, just like on the dresser on 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:02.680 the top, and that literally drives me bananas. So instead 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.200 of being annoyed by it, I decided, Okay, we need 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.720 to figure out a solution for this. So there's a 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:10.720 spot near his nightstand where we put a basket and 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.960 that's where the stuff goes that's not clean. Enough for 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:16.240 the closet, but not dirty enough for the hamper. We 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.320 all have those things, you know, like jeans or whatever. Yes, 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.800 So it's figuring out a system around your habits rather 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:26.520 than thinking overnight you're just going to have totally new habits, 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:30.120 because that's not realistic. We take our shoes off in 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.840 one specific spot, we put our keys down in one 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:36.800 specific spot, at a hook, at a bowl. Figure out 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.480 what you need in order to add some sort of 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:41.200 order to that problem. 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:45.640 Okay, perfect, congratulations on your engage a glue. So I 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:49.320 have a new fiance, right, and he does the same 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.920 exact thing your fiance does. And that was my question 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.880 because now, yeah, I'm learning to pick and choose my battles. 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:56.880 I'm like, I don't want to argue about the silliest things. 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.400 So now I'm just like, Okay, if it is now 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:02.320 that you mentioned is easier for him because it's always 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:03.800 on his side of the bed and I can't see 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.560 it because I'm on the right side and he's like 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:07.800 on the side. But I don't walk that way a lot. 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:11.000 So there's socks and then pants that again he wants to. 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:16.320 Wear agh the sock, yes, the sock, Yeah, I'm just like, 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.920 why why are they under the bed or like under. 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.399 The Like I'm just like I can't you know the 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.040 night stands that I have because you put them there. 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:24.760 So it's not like you can hide it. It's like 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:28.840 open and there's just stuff or like you know, like Postmates, 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:30.320 and he just leaves it there. And it's like he's 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:32.639 not dirty, He's not a dirty guy. He's just messy. 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:34.240 He's just like, oh, I'm gonna wear it again, so 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.679 I just left it there, But like it bothers me. 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.960 What's funny is that? And something that I've learned with 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:44.080 mine is that sometimes they're looking for a system. They 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.280