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What is one of 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: the biggest mistakes to lead to like a disorganized area. 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: I would say having too much stuff for the space 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: that you have is the biggest mistake you can make. 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: Being organized is not about being perfect. Being organized is 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: about having easy cleanup, having systems in place so that 13 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: getting your life back on track is quick and easy. 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: I have a new fiance. I'm learning to pick and 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: choose my battles. I'm like, I don't want to argue 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: about the silliest thing. So there's socks and then pants 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: that again he wants to wear you. 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: Oh the song? 19 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: The song? 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: You know what I love about Mondays? Besides the fact 21 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: that there's a new Cheeks and Chill episode, I love 22 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: that Monday's are the start of a brand new week, 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: and that means a brand new start. And that's what 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about today, fresh new starts. 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: We're going to be talking to Janelle Cohen, a professional organizer. 26 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,279 Speaker 1: She's going to teach us how to take our old 27 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: living and working spaces and turn them into cleaner, fresher spaces. 28 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: This is Cheeky's and chill. Sitting here with me today 29 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: is none other than the organizer to the stars, Janelle Cohen. 30 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: When she's not busy fixing the homes of Jay Shaddy 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: or the founders of Alo Yoga, you can catch here 32 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: on TV shows like The Today Show or Good Morning America. 33 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: She's also been featured in a number of publications like 34 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: The Washington Post. Hi Janelle, It's so good to see 35 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: you again. 36 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: So nice to see you. 37 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, of course, thank you for taking 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: the time. And I just want hopefully you're proud. My 39 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: house still looks nice and and so does my pantry. 40 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: Good glad to hear it. 41 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: Well, a little backstory, you guys, how I met Janelle. 42 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 1: I saw her on Instagram and I had her come 43 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: to my house and just organize my life. So she 44 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: started with my pantry, and then from there I was like, 45 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: can you you also like decorate and I love the 46 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: way you do it? 47 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: Can you do that? So she did that for me. 48 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: She did the entire house because when I first bought 49 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: this house, I was traveling and I didn't have the 50 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: time or the energy or the mental space to do it. 51 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: So I just said, here, this is kind of what 52 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: I want. Can you just take over? And that is 53 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: how whatever you see on Instagram, you guys, because I 54 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: haven't really shown my house like too much, but whatever 55 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: you see in the background is all her. Everything, the kitchen, 56 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: my bedroom, everything is Janelle. So I'm proud of that. 57 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 2: Thank you. 58 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: I love you so much to hear. Yeah, and you 59 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: also have a book I did it called Again. It's 60 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: in my laundry room. 61 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: The folding book, and the laundry room is the perfect 62 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: place to put it. As you're doing laundry, you learn 63 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: how to fold everything, so you nail the location. 64 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: Yes, I have it there, because especially like men's shirts, 65 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: if they don't hang them or get them like dry cleaned, 66 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: and they're just not like hanging. It's there's a certain 67 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: way of in your book, you explain this of folding 68 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: them very nicely where it also helps you save space, 69 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: you guys everything. It's honestly, when when you came out 70 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: with the book, I was like, what the heck, I've 71 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: never I never thought about that, But there's there's an 72 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: art to folding your clothes the correct way in order 73 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: to have more space you guys. 74 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: So yes, and it also reduces wrinkles. It takes better 75 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: care of your clothes. You can see everything you have, 76 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: and it's like a free skill that you can learn 77 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: to better your home and you don't have to spend anything. Yeah, 78 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: you know, you can totally transform your space just by 79 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: learning a new skill. 80 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. I think that was genius. I love that. 81 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: I love that. 82 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, and I'm so happy for you because you 83 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: were already doing amazing before I met you. But now 84 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel like I see you everywhere, and 85 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: you know, kind of like when you buy a car 86 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I'm gonna get this car because 87 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: no one has it, and then and then you see 88 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: it everywhere. I feel like, oh my god. I feel 89 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: like Janelle was my little secret kind of and now 90 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: I'm like she's everywhere, but no, I had seen you 91 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: on someone's like very famous. I mean, I mean, come on, 92 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: you you organize Jay Shatty's I'm a huge fan of Jayshetdy. 93 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: You organized his. 94 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: Whole yn But I feel like I see you everywhere now, 95 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: which is awesome. 96 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: I'm happy for you. 97 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, thank you so much. That means a 98 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: lot coming from you. 99 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. Of course, You're very welcome. Okay, So 100 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: tell me what got you into organizing. I'm just curious 101 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: because it's something that was always a part of your life. 102 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: It is just something because it comes natural or did 103 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: it come natural or I don't know. Tell me a 104 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: little bit about that. 105 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually, what's funny is that during the pandemic, I 106 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: started looking through old childhood videos of myself. And at 107 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: this point I already had started my business. But I 108 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: found a video of myself at two years old, folding 109 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: perfectly with an iron and I had no recollection of 110 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: that being a part of who I was as a child, 111 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: neither did my parents. But clearly there was something there, 112 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: you know. But I got into professional organizing clearly by accident. 113 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: It was a Mother's Day gift for my mom. I 114 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: was going to do her pantry, her pantry is amazing, 115 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: but was a hot mess, and so I decided I 116 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: was going to figure it out. I was going to 117 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: redo it, and I did, and I posted pictures on Facebook, 118 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 2: some befores and afters, and people started commenting and they 119 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: were like. 120 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 3: Can you come do mine? Can you come do mine? 121 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: And I was like, why the heck not? Might as well? 122 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: So I started doing people's pantries and then closets, and 123 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, I really love this. 124 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: This is my passion. I at the time was acting, 125 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 2: so it wasn't like I was on that path or 126 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 2: on that journey, and I just took a right turn 127 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: and I was like, you know what, I'm going to 128 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: double down on this, and I think I can turn 129 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 2: this into a really successful business. 130 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: That's what I did, and you definitely did because with 131 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: my pantry, you guys, mine was also a hot ass mess, 132 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: and she color coordinated the candy and everything. It's just 133 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: you walk in there and it's so esthetically pleasing and 134 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: everything is so easy to find. 135 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 3: It's just I was like, Wow, maybe I could have 136 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: done this, but it's like it takes. 137 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: But then I sat there, I'm like wait a second, no, 138 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't have thought about this to be on it. 139 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: So I'm like, so we need to know in our life. 140 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: So that's awesome. Yeah, But what I really want to 141 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: talk to you about is like helping people now like organize. 142 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: We're going into like a new year, and it's like 143 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: you want to feel fresh and just start your year 144 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: on the right foot. So let's talk about what is 145 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: one of the biggest mistakes that someone does around the 146 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: house to lead to like a disorganized area. 147 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: I would say having too much stuff for the space 148 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 2: that you have is definitely the biggest mistake you can make, 149 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: because you need to live for what your current circumstances 150 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 2: are in your current space. I also think if your 151 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: storage isn't serving you, then you need to create storage 152 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 2: that basically holds what you have without going crazy. But 153 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: I will say that that is my number one thing. 154 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 2: I believe you should be at seventy five percent capacity 155 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: in all areas of your home. That gives you room 156 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 2: to increase, decrease, move things around, tetris a little bit, 157 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: and it gives you wiggle room because there are days 158 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 2: where things aren't perfect. Do you think my laundry is perfect? 159 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: And put away one hundred percent of the time. Absolutely not, 160 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: because being organized is not about being perfect. Being organized 161 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: is about having easy cleanup, having systems in place so 162 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: that getting your life back on track is quick and easy. 163 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: I live in a one bedroom apartment, and if my 164 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: apartment gets a little crazy, which a one bedroom apartment 165 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: can get real crazy, real quick, I can set a 166 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: ten minute timer and snap it back in ten minutes. 167 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: That is the key to being organized, because everything has 168 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: a place. 169 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:28,559 Speaker 3: You know where it's going. 170 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: You're not trying to figure it out and make it work. 171 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: You know where it goes, you know what you have, 172 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: and you can you know, get back to square one. 173 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Everything should have 174 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: a place. And one thing I've noticed about myself is 175 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: that I'm very excessive, you know what I mean. Like 176 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: I feel like I buy one or two of the 177 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: same thing. It's like I should just have one and 178 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: when that's about to you know, run out or something, 179 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: I can get the other one. I have that thing 180 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: that I'm really trying to work through. But also, do 181 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: you suggest for people before they start organizing, obviously, like declutter, 182 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: Like before you come into my closet, I'd like to 183 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: remove everything that I'm no longer using or no longer 184 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: fits me in order for you to come in and say, okay, 185 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to organize what you are going to wear, 186 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: for instance. 187 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,239 Speaker 2: Yes, so I would say, I mean the biggest part 188 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: of organizing is what I call the edit, so basically 189 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: doing the decluttering, figuring out what you use. But it's 190 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: actually funny that you mentioned that you like to have 191 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: two of something, right. I actually believe that you're going 192 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: to think this is crazy and shocking, but I believe 193 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 2: that you shouldn't have just like one of everything. Figure 194 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 2: out what you actually like, what you actually wear. Double 195 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: down on that. So for me, I know what T 196 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: shirt I like, right, I like this one specific T shirt. 197 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: I like this cut, I like it in that size, 198 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: and these are the colors that I like it in. 199 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 2: And I don't have five different kinds of T shirts 200 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: where I'm constantly going to the same one. I have 201 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: five of the same T shirt because I wear them. 202 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: All the time. 203 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 2: That's who who I am and what I believe is 204 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 2: like the best thing if you feel like you have 205 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: to have a little black dress in your wardrobe because 206 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: it's just like you have to, but you never wear dresses. 207 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: That's silly, right. You have to curate your closet or 208 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: your home in general to what your needs are because 209 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: everybody's needs are different, so there's no formula, but you 210 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: absolutely editing is the most important part of organizing because 211 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: you don't want to organize a bunch of stuff that 212 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: you don't need, and that's the clutter, that's the clutter 213 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: in your mind. 214 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, And that's how I feel right now. I'm like, 215 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: there's so much shit in my closet that I don't need, 216 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: that I don't wear anymore, that doesn't fit me, and 217 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: I hold onto it because I'm like, damn, it has 218 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: a price tag. But I'm like, you know what, I 219 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: can donate it, like, don't look at it. It's kind 220 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: of like paying it forward sort of thing. There's another 221 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: word for it. I can't think of it, but it's like, Okay, 222 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: donate it. Don't look at it like you're throwing it out. 223 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: And that makes me feel better too, like I'm like, Okay, 224 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna donate it and hopefully this will help someone 225 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: else exactly. 226 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: There's that, and it's also making room for things that 227 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: serve you, because every single spot in your house is 228 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: valuable and you don't want to be having it filled 229 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: up with stuff that doesn't serve you right, and it 230 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: also helps you to shop smarter in the future. So 231 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: you're gonna look at the things that have price tags 232 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: on them that you're donating, and you're gonna say, why 233 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: didn't I wear this because it didn't make me feel good? 234 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: I didn't like that color on me, it wasn't comfortable, 235 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: it required a specific kind of bra that I hate wearing, 236 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: and then you don't buy that again. 237 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 3: That is key. 238 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: You learn exactly what you like, what fits your lifestyle, 239 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: and you cater what you have to that. It's also 240 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: important to remember that you don't have to declutter in 241 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: one big session. If you go let's say you open 242 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: your drawer and you're gonna grab a T shirt if 243 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: you're moving past a T shirt because you don't want 244 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 2: to wear it, because it doesn't look good on you, 245 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: you don't like it, whatever, rather than just like pushing 246 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: past it and finding what you're looking for, just put 247 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: that into a basket. Start a donation basket, so it's 248 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: just you have that. 249 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: I've been doing that is like literally two months ago. 250 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: I started it. 251 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm like Okay, this is like I'm not gonna wear 252 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: basket and I'm gonna donate it. 253 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm good. I'm on there. 254 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 2: There you go, And honestly, it adds up one little 255 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: thing here and there, and then it's like then you 256 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: see the drawer differently every time you go to it. 257 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: It's just little pieces. Of course, a huge edit and 258 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: having a big pile of clothes that you get rid 259 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: of is amazing. But if that feels too overwhelming, there's 260 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: other ways of doing it, which like the little donation basket. 261 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 2: I always have one of those, going, are you kidding me? 262 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely? 263 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: How did you start working like with all these huge celebrities. 264 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: Is it something that did you go knocking on their 265 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: doors or did they see you somewhere? Yeah, tell me 266 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: a little bit about that. 267 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, actually not at all. 268 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: I mean I just was doing what I was doing. 269 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: I was posting on Instagram sharing what I was doing. 270 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 2: And the first celebrity that reached out to me was 271 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: Jordan Woods and she just DMed me one day and 272 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: I had like no followers. Really, she just like friend, 273 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: I guess followed me and she was like I'm looking 274 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: to like organize and her friends sent my page to 275 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: her and the rest is history, and then me and 276 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: her became friends through it. And yeah, it was so random. 277 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 2: I was sitting at I was watching The Bachelrette with 278 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: my girlfriends and I was like. 279 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 3: I think Jordan Woods just DMed me. It was so wild. 280 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, But honestly, a lot of assistance is how I've networked. 281 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: Okay, I've gotten some. 282 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: Very very very cool, iconic clients that I can't I've 283 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: signed NDA's and I can't share that I worked with them. 284 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 2: But that part's really hard because I'm so it's so 285 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: exciting and awesome, but it's like I'm their safe space. 286 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 3: I'm this like. 287 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: Little fairy, little organizing fairy that just comes in and 288 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: I'm just for them. They don't have to share me 289 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: with everybody. Yeah. But like I got to do Lance Bass, 290 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 2: which was so cool and I was like, this is 291 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: my childhood. 292 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 3: Dream, that is and I said that to him. I 293 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 3: was like, little. 294 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: Janelle would be freaking out right now, Like I don't 295 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 2: even know like how me as a child would have 296 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: processed what I was doing and seeing. 297 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 3: I was like this is insane. I would I probably 298 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 3: would have been there right there with you. Yeah, but 299 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 3: it was. 300 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: Honestly, it's just all referral. All my clients are referral, 301 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: just word of mouth and building trust and just continue 302 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: working hard and focusing on that and then the rest comes. 303 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: Yes, because you are very very good at what you do. 304 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: And what I noticed is like you go, you do 305 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: your thing. I think you guys put on like music 306 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: you had in your little Yeah, you almost like you're 307 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: not even there. And I'm just like, oh, okay, Like 308 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: you're just so respectful and I think that goes a 309 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: long way. And obviously, yeah, people recommend you so absolutely 310 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: thank you. 311 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. 312 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,239 Speaker 2: I get in the zone. I listened to some podcasts 313 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: so there, Yeah. 314 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: Awesome, awesome, I know it Chigi's and Chill. You don't 315 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: have to say that now, but no. 316 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 3: I always I have everybody, so are you kidding? Awesome? 317 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: I think that's where I saw you the first time. 318 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm actually on Jordan Wood's Instagram and I think she 319 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: was saying thank you for I didn't know. I thought 320 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: you were just organizing. But then you're like, oh, thank 321 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: you for helping me decorate. She said something like that, 322 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my gosh. You Also it's heck yes, 323 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: so it just saved my life. 324 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: I did her house for MTV Cribs. 325 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 3: Oh you did? Okay? 326 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: Yes? And I love the it was so clean and 327 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: the colors. I was like, I sound kind of like that. 328 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: I want that. 329 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So tell us a little bit more about organizing, Like, 330 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: are there, like, what are key things? I don't know, 331 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: two or three or maybe five if you have them, 332 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: like things that people can do right away to start 333 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: like just organizing their life a little bit better. 334 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: Okay. 335 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: Number one thing just to get like the aesthetic that 336 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: you see on Instagram. You know that, Like organizing, perfection 337 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: is symmetry and having everything matching. So if you get 338 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,359 Speaker 2: the organizing bug and you're gonna go get some baskets, 339 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: some new hangers, whatever labels, you name it, there's so 340 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: many different things get all the same. You don't know 341 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: how many times I go into people's houses and they 342 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: have twenty different bins and none of them match, and 343 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: none of them is little. It's just like chaos. And 344 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 2: it's like you want your organizing to be cohesive, and 345 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: it makes a really big difference. So if you get 346 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: the organizing bug and you're gonna go buy some bass 347 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: gets have the whole house match. Yes, that's number one. Labels. 348 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: Labels is so so key to being able to maintain 349 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: a space because there's accountability and it's also communication with 350 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: everyone in the house. Usually it's not just one person 351 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: in a home. Usually there's multiple people using a space 352 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: and you don't want to have to micromanage it or 353 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 2: you be the only one that knows where things go, 354 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: So you need to have labels. They don't need to 355 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: be too specific. It could just say snacks or breakfast 356 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: or whatnot. Okay, so labels is key. 357 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: What else? Ooh? 358 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: One thing is if you notice that there's like an 359 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: area that constantly gets cluttered, so like let's say by 360 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: the door, or like there's a spot in your bedroom. 361 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: I'll give use my fiance as an example. 362 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: He likes to put clothes that are not like fully dirty, 363 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: but not fully clean, just like on the dresser on 364 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: the top, and that literally drives me bananas. So instead 365 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 2: of being annoyed by it, I decided, Okay, we need 366 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: to figure out a solution for this. So there's a 367 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: spot near his nightstand where we put a basket and 368 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: that's where the stuff goes that's not clean. Enough for 369 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: the closet, but not dirty enough for the hamper. We 370 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: all have those things, you know, like jeans or whatever. Yes, 371 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: So it's figuring out a system around your habits rather 372 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: than thinking overnight you're just going to have totally new habits, 373 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 2: because that's not realistic. We take our shoes off in 374 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: one specific spot, we put our keys down in one 375 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: specific spot, at a hook, at a bowl. Figure out 376 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: what you need in order to add some sort of 377 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: order to that problem. 378 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: Okay, perfect, congratulations on your engage a glue. So I 379 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: have a new fiance, right, and he does the same 380 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: exact thing your fiance does. And that was my question 381 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: because now, yeah, I'm learning to pick and choose my battles. 382 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to argue about the silliest things. 383 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: So now I'm just like, Okay, if it is now 384 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: that you mentioned is easier for him because it's always 385 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: on his side of the bed and I can't see 386 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: it because I'm on the right side and he's like 387 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: on the side. But I don't walk that way a lot. 388 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: So there's socks and then pants that again he wants to. 389 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: Wear agh the sock, yes, the sock, Yeah, I'm just like, 390 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 2: why why are they under the bed or like under. 391 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: The Like I'm just like I can't you know the 392 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: night stands that I have because you put them there. 393 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: So it's not like you can hide it. It's like 394 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: open and there's just stuff or like you know, like Postmates, 395 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: and he just leaves it there. And it's like he's 396 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: not dirty, He's not a dirty guy. He's just messy. 397 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: He's just like, oh, I'm gonna wear it again, so 398 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: I just left it there, But like it bothers me. 399 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: What's funny is that? And something that I've learned with 400 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: mine is that sometimes they're looking for a system. They 401 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: don't know how to say, like hey, I never know 402 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 2: where to put X, Y and Z, so they just 403 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 2: like do it and they can't like necessarily always verbalize 404 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 2: like it'd be great. But like sometimes I'll put a 405 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: system together or like organize his desk or something, and 406 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: he's like, oh my god, wow, that is so much 407 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: much better. I'm so and then uses that system. So 408 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: I think sometimes it's figuring out what that thing is. 409 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: Like maybe I'm putting a basket on the side of 410 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 2: his bed near the nightstand and that gets cleared every 411 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: few days or whatnot, because maybe that he's looking like 412 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: I don't know where to put these, you know. 413 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: And that's what he tells me. You totally gave me 414 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 3: a solution. 415 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm just like, I think what I'm going to do 416 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: is just organize it for him and be like, hey, 417 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: this is what I suggest and now. And I've noticed 418 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: that once I do it, I'm like, okay, the towels 419 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: or you know, even our little Q tips and stuff like, 420 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, this is where can you just this? 421 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: This is where you replenish it or how And he's like, okay, cool, yeah, awesome. 422 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's like little things. It's not like they 423 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: do it on intentionally. They're trying to be inconsiderate. It's 424 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: just I think you just have to guide them a 425 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: little bit more because they're thinking about other things. 426 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. 427 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: I think there's just different personality types. I think some 428 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: people are aware of that, they're aware of their space, 429 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: and then there's people that just aren't. And I think 430 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 2: there's then there's also people in the middle. I feel 431 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: like it's not a passive aggressive thing to like organize 432 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: his stuff and leave a system. I think it's like 433 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 2: a way of helping, Like this is a skill that 434 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 2: I have, and I can help you to like have 435 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: a better system so you can find what you need 436 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: and then they can offer you guidance in other ways 437 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,239 Speaker 2: that other skills I don't have, like tech, you know, 438 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,719 Speaker 2: like this mic setup today, I didn't set that up. 439 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: I don't have that skill whatsoever. And so it's kind 440 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: of like it's a skill and some people have it, 441 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: some people don't. Some people need it to be to learn, 442 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: you know, and they can they can learn because they 443 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 2: have the drive, but it's not natural. So I think 444 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 2: that it's like a good thing. Figure out where those 445 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: holes are, what are those things that are really frustrating 446 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: and difficult and annoying to deal with, and then figure 447 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: out solutions around them because they're not going to change. 448 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: They're not going to change overnight. So it's just like 449 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: accepting that breathing right and you know, then just doing it. 450 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I definitely don't want to come off as 451 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: like passive aggressive or feel like he feels that I'm 452 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: like his mom and I'm trying to organize his life 453 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: because I'm trying to Obviously I'm not trying to emasculate 454 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: him in any way. It's just I like things a 455 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: certain way, and now that I've gotten older, and now 456 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: that you've organized my life, I want it to stay 457 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: that way. 458 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, dang, now that I'm. 459 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: Older, I'm so particular, I'm so anal about certain things. 460 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 3: I just want things a certain way. And that's it. 461 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: Like, oh, you are preaching right now. Yeah, I'm like, 462 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: what is happening to me? I was like, I wasn't 463 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: always like this before. I'm like, okay, now I'm like, no, 464 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: I can't leave the house until this isn't its place. 465 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: And it's just getting it's getting a little like worse, 466 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, or better. I don't know. I don't know 467 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: if it's a bad or good thing. It's just it's 468 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: what it is, you know. 469 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: It's everything in moderation, labeling, and also just like you 470 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 2: want to have control of your space, because there is 471 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 2: it's a subconscious thing. But we don't have control over 472 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 2: a lot of things in life, but we have control 473 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: of our surroundings. So at least for me, I feel 474 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 2: like when I'm feeling stressed out, when I'm feeling anxious, 475 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 2: that's when I'm like. 476 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: The bathroom is a mess. 477 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: I have to redo it, and I get a little crazy, 478 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: And I think it's just because I can control that, right. 479 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 2: I can't control what else is happening, right, and things 480 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: that you know are bigger than I am. But I 481 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 2: can control the way my bathroom sync looks, and I 482 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 2: can control that my clothes are put away, And so 483 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: I think it's like gaining feeling control, and I think 484 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 2: that it's a good outlet. I think though, also in moderation, 485 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: you don't want to go so far that then it's 486 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: like you can't live your life because if it's not perfect, 487 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: you're not happy. So I think it's you know, somewhere 488 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 2: in the middle of that and making it realistic. 489 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: Okay that honestly, I know we're talking about organizing, but 490 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: like I feel like we're having a little bit of 491 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: a therapy session because right now that you said that, 492 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, I guess that's what it is. I'm like, 493 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: I just I can control this one thing and I 494 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: want it to be okay. And then my mind for 495 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: some reason has this space and I'm like, Okay, now 496 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: I can think about work and everything else I have 497 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: to do, but my home, my cars, even I cannot 498 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: with a dirty car. I'm like, I can't, Like if not, 499 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: I can't think it's like if that's I'm right, okay. 500 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: I think it's part of it is just taking control 501 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: of your space, Like take control of it, get that 502 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 2: energy out, set a timer. I mean, my advice is 503 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 2: always to put on a podcast and do an activity 504 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 2: within that podcast, because it's like your mind is working, 505 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: you're thinking, but you're thinking about something else. Right, So 506 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: I'm thinking about the conversation I'm listening to, or I'm 507 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 2: thinking about the story I'm listening to, and my mind 508 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 2: is going, I'm getting some stuff done, and then it's like, Okay, now. 509 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 3: What do I have to do? 510 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 2: Like what do I have that I big that I 511 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 2: need to accomplish, or that I have to deal with, 512 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: or that I have to emotionally handle. I mean, I know, 513 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: organizing is a physical thing, right, it's your space, it's 514 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 2: your surroundings. 515 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 3: But it's also. 516 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 2: Very, very very emotional, and I feel like a lot 517 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 2: of my clients don't realize that, especially when they do 518 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 2: a closet edit. Like people sometimes have a mental breakdown. 519 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: They like they just start crying because they're so relieved, 520 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: and they didn't even realize they were so stressed out 521 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 2: by it. So I think it's just your surroundings, your environment. 522 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: Knowing what you have or where it is can affect 523 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: your ability to accomplish things every day. 524 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: I oh, my god, Yes, And I realize is that 525 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: now that I've gotten older. 526 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, this is what it is. 527 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: It just makes everything better for it to be in 528 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: its place, you know, And I just have to control 529 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: a little bit more. And I understand that it's It's okay. 530 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: Even if the scissors aren't where I put them in 531 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: the drawer and they should be there, then it's okay. 532 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 3: I think. 533 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: Now you gave me this amazing idea. I'm gonna buy 534 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: myself a label maker, thinky And I'm gonna label the 535 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: shit out of everything. 536 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 3: Yep, I'm gonna label everything. 537 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: He's here, scissors here, just the cleaning supplies because I'm like, 538 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: why is this cleaning supply? Because I did this the 539 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: other day. I organized and then I'm like, why is 540 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: this cleaning thing? I'm like, they all go together, you 541 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: see it. But maybe people don't see what I'm saying 542 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: because I organized it. 543 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: That's totally true, Like everybody sees things differently. I mean, 544 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: trust me, I see it on a daily basis. I'll 545 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 2: be like, what, that's what you But organizing is also 546 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 2: like my number one tip and how to figure out 547 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: where you should put things. As you close your eyes 548 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: and you think, where would I look for that? Where 549 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: would I look for the batteries? And that's where they 550 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: should be? And everybody's answer is different. And some people 551 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: say in the garage and some people say in the 552 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: I say, with my tools. Everybody has a different answer, 553 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 2: but it has to be where you would think it 554 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: goes and then label it because everybody thinks differently. 555 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Okay, cool, I'm going to do that. I 556 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: love shoes and I love bags, and I know a 557 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: lot of women out there do too. I used to 558 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: do this, and I don't know, it was a little frustrating, 559 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,239 Speaker 1: but let me know if I did good. Okay. But 560 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: I bought like a bunch of plastic containers and I 561 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: put my shoes in the containers and then I took 562 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: pictures of my shoes and I put the Is that good? 563 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay? 564 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: Because I think I want to do that again because 565 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: right now in my closet they're open. But I feel 566 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: like they're getting dusty because I don't wear every pair 567 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: of shoes every day obviously, so I felt like they 568 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: were better taken care of when I had it in 569 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: that system. 570 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 2: I have mine in bins where they open in the front, 571 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 2: so they drop down in the front, so then you 572 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 2: can pull the shoe out and slide it back in. 573 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: I recommend that because then you don't even need to 574 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 2: do the picture thing and they can move around as 575 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 2: needed and you don't feel tied to it, but you 576 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 2: can still see them and they're protected. 577 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 3: So yes, I love that. Okay, okay, cool? And what 578 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 3: about bags? Purses? 579 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: They can bags because we have our go tos and 580 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: then we have the like do you recommend going organizing 581 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: by like these are my go to bags, my everyday bags, 582 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: and then a night like a date night bag or something. 583 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. 584 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 2: So it's so funny because I have such strong opinions 585 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: about organizing purses, and I've organized a lot of purses 586 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: and a lot of incredible collections. I am a big believer. 587 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 2: Don't have it in the dust bag unless it can 588 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 2: really get damaged or a snag on something else. So 589 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: like maybe sometimes swayed, I say leave in the dust bag. 590 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: But besides that, take it out and just make sure 591 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 2: to dust them right. 592 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 593 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: Then I say I like to do it by color, 594 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 2: and I like to do it by color because I 595 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: feel like sometimes if you have like these are my 596 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: daily bags and these are my going out bags or whatnot, 597 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: I feel like then you get locked into using the 598 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: same thing over and over again. And there's some bags 599 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 2: that just never get to see the light of day. 600 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're so sad dying in your closet. 601 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 602 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 2: And I feel like when you have things by color instead, 603 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: you're inspired, Like you're gonna get ready to go out, 604 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 2: and you're gonna grab your you know, a bag for dinner, 605 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: and instead of grabbing the one you grab every time, 606 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 2: you'll be like, well, I was gonna grab black bag. 607 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 3: What other black bags do I have? Mm hmmm. 608 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: And then you can grab a different bag, and it 609 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 2: gives you the opportunity to wear more of what you have. 610 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: I believe, see everything that you have, because it's going 611 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: to inspire you to wear it. 612 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: Yes. Oh my god, I need you so bad. I 613 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: need you to come please help me, because that's what 614 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: I see. I'm like, instead of buying another bag because 615 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: It's just it's ridiculous. I'm like, I still have bags 616 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: that I don't use enough, so what is happening. I'm 617 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: probably not seeing them or they're For instance, there's bags 618 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: behind other bags and I'm like, oh my god, I 619 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: forgot I had that, you know, so okay, by color. 620 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 2: There's no way you could go into your closet and 621 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 2: mentally remember everything you have. Like I get to the 622 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: grocery store and I can't remember if I've pasta sauce 623 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: at home. Like there's no way you could go into 624 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: your closet and be like, oh right, I remember that 625 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 2: bag I got three falls ago that looks great with 626 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: brown boots. Like there's just no way you need to 627 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,479 Speaker 2: see it to really enjoy it. 628 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 3: Okay, so see it. 629 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: And then as far as you're clothing, do you like 630 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: color coordinating as well? 631 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 2: I like category and then within that color blocking or 632 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 2: color coordinating, but I feel like the category is more important, 633 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: So like jackets together, and within jackets maybe like having 634 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 2: blazers from casual sweatshirts and sweatpants should be together, dressy tops, 635 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: basic tops, hants, skirts, Those are the categories that I 636 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: feel like are important and it's better to have those 637 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: categories separate than deal with color. Of course, I'm extra 638 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 2: so I do color within the category. But okay, if 639 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 2: that sounds super overwhelming, you don't have to do that. 640 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: Okay, now that you mentioned jackets and stuff. I had 641 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: a friend that used to do this, and I don't 642 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: do this, but she would put all her winter stuff 643 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: during summertime away and just bring out like her summer 644 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: stuff out. 645 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: That's what I do. 646 00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 3: Okay. 647 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 2: I do that because I don't have a lot of space. 648 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: So because I'm tight on space, I have to be 649 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 2: kind of vicious about, you know, making sure that my 650 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 2: summer spring stuff is away so I could pull my 651 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 2: fall out, which I literally just did this weekend. 652 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 3: It was so fun. 653 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: But I think that even if you have enough space, 654 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 2: it's really fun to do that. Because I didn't even 655 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: remember doing this, but I put like some yoga stuff 656 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 2: away that was like hunter green colors and they were 657 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: like more fall colors, and I put them away to 658 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 2: make space, and I forgot I did that, and then 659 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 2: when I pulled them out, I literally felt like I 660 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: won the jackpot. I was like, this is amazing. 661 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 3: I have new leggings. 662 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 2: They're not new. I've had them maybe four or five 663 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: years now, but because I did that seasonal swap, it 664 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: made me feel like they were new, which was a 665 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: really fun, special feeling. I love that feeling, So I 666 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: think that it's a really great thing to do. And 667 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 2: it's you want your stuff in your closet to be 668 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: stuff you're wearing current. Right, You're not going to use 669 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: a straw bag in November. It's just not going to happen. 670 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 2: So why see it on the shelf instead put it 671 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,719 Speaker 2: away and then pull it out in spring and then 672 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: it's like so fun and exciting and you feel like 673 00:28:58,840 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: you got a new wardrobe. 674 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, You're so right. Okay, we need to do that too, because. 675 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: It's really fun. 676 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm sure I have like a bunch of 677 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: jackets that like now I can wear and I'm so 678 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: excited because it looks like it's gonna get cold. Fin'd 679 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: my absolute favorite. I love falling too. Yeah, And okay, 680 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: so last question. Because I am a huge overpacker, I 681 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: feel like I need to be. I don't know, I 682 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: think this is just me being like finding excuses, but 683 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, just in case, I stay in extra day, 684 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: just in case I need my big bottle of shampoo, 685 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: Like it's ridiculous because everything's always overweight. Then it spills 686 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: and it's just it's honestly, it's ridiculous. But I can't 687 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: help it. I mean, are there any tips besides I know, 688 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: getting the travel sizes? 689 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: So actually what's crazy is that I'm also an overpacker 690 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: because I can pack a suitcase real, real good because 691 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: I fold like really perfectly. So I'm like, you know what, 692 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring twenty T shirts and we'll just see 693 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: what I feel like. But I went on vacation a 694 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 2: few weeks ago and we were going to multiple different 695 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 2: places for like a few weeks, and my friend is 696 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: a stylist, my friend Robin, So she came over and 697 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: she was like, Okay, we're gonna do this my way, 698 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 2: and I was like, show me Away's girl, and she 699 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 2: basically was like, Okay, what are you gonna wear on 700 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: the plane? 701 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 3: Okay? 702 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: What are you gonna wear the first night you're there? 703 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 3: Okay? 704 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 2: Are you going out to dinner that night? 705 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 3: Okay? 706 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: What do we And she like moved my shoes around 707 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 2: to like whatever, and she took a picture of each 708 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: bundle of whatever, of each little outfit I have never 709 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: packed so perfectly for a vacation. I had everything I need, 710 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 2: and for some stuff, I packed like some stuff I 711 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 2: rewore because I was like, oh, I can rewar this. 712 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: But I had plenty and I had an extra outfit 713 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: or two and I was fine. And I felt like 714 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: I didn't have to spend any brain power figuring out 715 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: what I was gonna wear when I was on vacation, 716 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 2: because I was like, this is the outfit that was 717 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 2: picked for me today, and I felt like I looked 718 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 2: like a million bucks. My suitcase was perfect. 719 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: It was game changer. 720 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: So I say, lay everything out out really specifically, and 721 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: then you'll see what shoes you're naturally bringing, what bags 722 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 2: you can naturally mix between, and then you put your 723 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 2: bra and underwear with that outfit. So what bra are 724 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 2: you wearing with that outfit? What underwear are you wearing 725 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: with that outfit? What socks are you wearing with that outfit? 726 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 2: So you have everything right there, it's not like at 727 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: the end you then have to gather at all. It 728 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: was amazing. 729 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 3: It's probably a game changer. 730 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,719 Speaker 1: And do you put like your jewelry or like, hey, 731 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wear these little earrings with it, you take 732 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: a picture, and then I've seen those organizing bags on 733 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: Amazon as well, like where you can put your whole 734 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: outfit in there. 735 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: I actually I did packing cubes. I love a packing 736 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 2: cube because it's basically tuessing your suitcase and then I 737 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: just did it by day or like by like this 738 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 2: was the first week of my trip. This was the 739 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: second week of my trip, and that worked totally fine. 740 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 2: I highly recommend a packing cube. 741 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: Okay, packing cube, got it? Labels check packing cube. Okay, right, 742 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: I'm learning so much And just a silly question, do 743 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: you cause I'm sure like your fiance is probably like 744 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: so lucky you like, do you pack for him? 745 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, he lives a real privileged life, Like how awesome, 746 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: what a blessing he gets all his laundry folded by 747 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: me and organized. 748 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 3: And would she's so pretty? 749 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 2: I love it. 750 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 3: I love it. It's so fun. 751 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome. I'm so happy for you. Okay, well, Janelle, 752 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Honestly, I'm so grateful that he 753 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: came on the podcast. It was so interesting. I learned 754 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: so much and I'm sure my listeners did too. And 755 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: I'll be sending you a text message. See when you're available. 756 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 3: To come help me with my lifey over soon. 757 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: Oh actually, you should share your your social media or 758 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: anywhere they can find you and your book and all 759 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: that good stuff. 760 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 3: Please. 761 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, straighten Up by Janelle. That's my Instagram, that's 762 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: my TikTok that's my YouTube, that's my everything. I love 763 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: it straight And my book is The Folding Book, okay. 764 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: And you can find that on Amazon target you name it, 765 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: Barnes and Noble. 766 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: I love that, Okay. I was lucky and blessed you 767 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: you sent it to me, so thank you. But you 768 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: guys find it on Amazon. It's honestly a really good 769 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: one to have. You're gonna like, like, what the heck? 770 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: I could have the craziest things. You can fold anything 771 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: and everything, you guys, So make sure you check it out. 772 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: And you guys, before you go, I always have a 773 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: quote for you, okay. So the quote for today, you 774 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: guys is organization isn't about perfection. It's about efficiency, reducing 775 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: stress and clutter, saving time and money, and improving your 776 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: overall quality of life, which is what we just talked about. 777 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: And believe me, once you start, you're just gonna love 778 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: how you feel and It's just kind of like, let 779 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: me remove all this excess stuff that I don't necessarily 780 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: need that is just taking up space, and it just 781 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: gives you room to breathe in every way. So Janelle again, 782 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: thank you, and I appreciate your time. And you guys, 783 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: thank you for listening. And I'll catch you on the 784 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: next episode of Cheeks and Chill. Guys, los Amo, do 785 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: you need advice on love, relationships, health emails. I'm so 786 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: excited to share with you that my Cheekies and Chill 787 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: podcast will have an extra episode drop each week. I'll 788 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: be answering all your questions. Just leave me a voice 789 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: message person a Monday. 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