WEBVTT - Scheduling Sex with Atsuko Okatsuka 

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Hi, How are you, hi, Chelsea?

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<v Speaker 2>You've got some interesting looking fish behind you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in Greece. I'm in Paro's, Greece with my family.

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<v Speaker 3>It's my sister's sixtieth birthday. So there are twelve women,

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<v Speaker 3>eleven women here from our family, my sisters, my nieces,

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<v Speaker 3>my cousins, my aunt and my Oh my god, am

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<v Speaker 3>I going to say, great niece.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to say that.

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<v Speaker 1>We can fudge the numbers there.

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<v Speaker 4>It's fine, Please please fudge them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's wonderful. How long How long are you guys there?

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<v Speaker 1>How long are you going to be there?

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<v Speaker 4>We're on a Roman holiday.

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<v Speaker 3>We've been here for two days, three days, and we're

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<v Speaker 3>here for a full week and it's beautiful and it's

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<v Speaker 3>Grecian and we are eating the best food in the world,

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<v Speaker 3>and our family is together and without so like, there

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<v Speaker 3>is really nothing better than being with all the women

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<v Speaker 3>in your life.

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<v Speaker 4>Without men. I mean, there were no men that even

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<v Speaker 4>come to the house to like work at the house.

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<v Speaker 5>It's all women.

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<v Speaker 4>My aunt goes, do you only request female chefs? I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 4>but that's a great idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>I was listening to some interview with a pop star

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<v Speaker 2>who shall not be named, and she was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>usually I'm the only woman in the room. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you're big enough that that's your choice. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that you're choosing to be with all women.

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<v Speaker 2>Just makes things a little more peaceful.

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<v Speaker 4>Totally, meg and more reasonable.

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<v Speaker 3>Like last night, all the girls, the young girls made

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<v Speaker 3>dinner together and they made fish tacos and it was

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan and Charlie and Ella and they were all just like,

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<v Speaker 3>it was so cute to see these little butterflies roaming around,

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<v Speaker 3>like going from the outdoor kitchen to the indoor kitchen

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<v Speaker 3>and we're just sitting there like, you know, I'm drinking

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<v Speaker 3>obviously because that's what I do, and I was just

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<v Speaker 3>observing it. I was like, this is so sweet, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>watching all of the family members kind of you know, interrelate.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just so sweet. We have so many girls in

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<v Speaker 4>our family, so it's so nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's great that like everybody seems like they

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<v Speaker 2>vibe really well.

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<v Speaker 1>And if there is any sort of you know, interpersonal.

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<v Speaker 4>It's me, by the way, I'm always the problem. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm always the biggest problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent, Well, I'm glad. We you know, we're all self aware.

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<v Speaker 2>We can take a responsibility for our stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Chelsea, you have some new dates coming up?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm adding some dates. Well, I'm doing Vegas on

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<v Speaker 3>July fifth, so.

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<v Speaker 5>Come to that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I added a couple of stand up dates to

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<v Speaker 3>round out the year. I'm doing Westhampton Beach August twenty first,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm headlining the Rochester Fringe Comedy Festival September thirteenth, and

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<v Speaker 3>I will be in NAPA on October third, So that's

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<v Speaker 3>how I'm rounding out the year. I feel slightly guilty

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<v Speaker 3>about being in Europe during everything that's happening in America,

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<v Speaker 3>but I also feel like I'm gathering my strength.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you have to like sharpen the acts before you

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<v Speaker 2>can go back to work.

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<v Speaker 1>And also like you are someone.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you have such a large following. It's like you

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<v Speaker 2>can also still be doing the work from other places

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<v Speaker 2>and you are.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that's great.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks Koth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have a lovely returning guest who we love today.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeh, so we love her and she has a

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<v Speaker 3>new special called Father out on Hulu which you all

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<v Speaker 3>must go watch. And you know how much we love

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<v Speaker 3>female comedians on this podcast, So please welcome Otsco oh Kotskott.

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<v Speaker 5>Chelsea, my daughter is that you?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, you're my ba, You're my baby and I'm your mother.

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<v Speaker 5>That's all right.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not your daughter.

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<v Speaker 3>You're my baby and my baby got a new bowl

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<v Speaker 3>cut because it looks very, very fresh.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you just cut it right now?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, she's been trimming it. She's talking about your work current,

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<v Speaker 5>she's so you're here here, I'll put this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is kurn and if you're not watching on YouTube, just

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, Osco's finishing up a haircut right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if her cut actually I thought maybe

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<v Speaker 3>her cut. Her hair actually just starts cutting itself when

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<v Speaker 3>it gets too long.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, let's not talk about that, Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 4>I have you out of a jump.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, copy that. So there is somebody tending to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay like a gardener. Okay, got it.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a yes ahead, guys, thank you, I am yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 5>can you believe? Yeah? This is today for I said,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna see Chelsea, let's get that pristine cut going.

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<v Speaker 5>And Hi, Catherine, Hi, how are you?

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<v Speaker 4>Otsco? Okotska's here? Everybody?

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<v Speaker 3>If that took me a long time to say that

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<v Speaker 3>name properly, and now it just rolls right off the tongue.

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<v Speaker 3>Otsko Okotska. You're gonna tell me I'm saying it wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>are you?

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<v Speaker 5>No, not at all? And it was and it was

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<v Speaker 5>Shell say yeah, Shelley, Actually, we love, we love. We

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<v Speaker 5>love a woman that's always updating herself.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, absolutely, I mean, yeah, there's so many seasons

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<v Speaker 3>to being a woman.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just it's always a surprise your own body.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that I'm fifty, I'm like, oh god, so many

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<v Speaker 3>different things. Like I remember when I when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 3>my boobs were so big, right, they were so big.

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<v Speaker 3>And now as I've gotten more in shape and like

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<v Speaker 3>leaner and older, they've gotten to the exact size that

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<v Speaker 3>I like, they're not too much, like I can contain them,

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<v Speaker 3>and like all of the different changes that you go

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<v Speaker 3>through in your body. Like I always heard such negative

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<v Speaker 3>things about aging, and I have to say, I'm having

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<v Speaker 3>a positive aging experience, and I wish the same for you, Otsco,

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<v Speaker 3>because I know you're not old.

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<v Speaker 4>How old are you?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm thirty six.

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty six, okay, so I'm fourteen years older than you,

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<v Speaker 3>And I want you to know, well, you're Asian, so

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<v Speaker 3>your aging experience is already going to be superior to Caucasians.

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<v Speaker 3>Asian aging aging experience, aging is not to be used

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<v Speaker 3>with Asians.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, happy aging months, which is me? Happy ag Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>which is me? Yeah? Anyway, you know yeah, wait right,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm wondering. Have we started recording?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're recording. Yeah, what is wrying?

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<v Speaker 1>He's rolling for you?

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<v Speaker 5>Incredible? No, I was like, we're catching up so good already.

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, we're all we're going to use all of this.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 3>We want our audience to know the ins and outs

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<v Speaker 3>of all of our relationships. No.

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate that what you just said about that aging.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't relate to the big boobs, to the finally

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<v Speaker 5>good boobs or like perfect size boobs. For me, it's

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<v Speaker 5>always been the same.

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<v Speaker 4>Double A since you were born pretty much.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, which is nice. I like consistency, so.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and a double A.

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<v Speaker 3>That's almost like you don't even have to wear a bra,

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<v Speaker 3>right or do you do you wear bra?

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<v Speaker 5>I was being humble. I just realized I'm actually a

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<v Speaker 5>b thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh excuse me? Oh I didn't realize that. So you've

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<v Speaker 4>graduated now, you're a bee.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, and my grandma d's double d's who knew. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>See, some people get bigger boobs as they get older.

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<v Speaker 3>Did she always have bigger boobs?

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<v Speaker 5>We never. I don't think she ever was measured until

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<v Speaker 5>more recently when we were buying bras for her and

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<v Speaker 5>she didn't seem faced because it's not like she really

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<v Speaker 5>has girlfriends that she talks about bra sizes with. So

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<v Speaker 5>I said, Grandma, what was the measurement? She goes thirty

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<v Speaker 5>six double D like a softlex. My jaw dropped and

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<v Speaker 5>she said, what, that's not normal? I said, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not what I have. I thought we were related.

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<v Speaker 3>Otsco has a new special out on Hulu. It's called Father.

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<v Speaker 3>By the time this comes out, your special will be airing.

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<v Speaker 3>This is your sophomore special on Hulu and Disney It's

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<v Speaker 3>called Father. Now, without giving away any of the jokes

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<v Speaker 3>in the special, why did you call it Father?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, so I do talk a little bit about reconnecting

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<v Speaker 5>with my dad in it, but also, like my fans

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<v Speaker 5>call me mother. You know, we were talking about well,

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<v Speaker 5>I call you mother, but my friends call me mother,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, but mothers have it together, right, so

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<v Speaker 5>I'm more.

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<v Speaker 4>Father, right, you know, I'm also kind of more of

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<v Speaker 4>a father than a mother.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>A stepfather is where I come into my own you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, where we're like both thriving in life, but sometimes

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<v Speaker 5>clueless about everyday basics, like we're like the sun and

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<v Speaker 5>the moon are different. Or that was you but you know,

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<v Speaker 5>thank you just and or that I didn't know I

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<v Speaker 5>hadn't been doing the laundry for the past seven years,

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<v Speaker 5>like that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Who but Ran is Ryan doing the laundry.

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<v Speaker 3>Ryan is Otsco's husband, Yes, who I refer to as

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<v Speaker 3>her captor because he takes care of all things Otsco.

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<v Speaker 3>And if Otsco didn't have Ryan in her life, Otsco,

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<v Speaker 3>she probably wouldn't even be alive.

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<v Speaker 5>I would live outside and and you know and maybe thrive,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, because of my personality. But Ryan is mother. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>he's the one that's been doing the laundry this whole time.

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<v Speaker 5>We were both surprised though. It was like this devastating

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<v Speaker 5>moment where we both realized, wait, that means you, that

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<v Speaker 5>means it's been you this whole time.

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<v Speaker 4>And that was a surprise to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it alway was it a surprise to Ryan,

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<v Speaker 3>who was doing the laundry.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, because sometimes you just go, oh, here's fresh new laundry,

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<v Speaker 5>and you forget that, you know what I mean. We

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes you just don't know you're the one that's been

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<v Speaker 5>doing it. And the times he's not doing it, he

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<v Speaker 5>thought I'd been doing mine, but I just wasn't washing

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<v Speaker 5>my clothes, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe No, No, it doesn't make sense at all,

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<v Speaker 3>but I believe you. I believe you when I when

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<v Speaker 3>I come to Whistler, I don't have a housekeeper here.

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<v Speaker 3>It couldn't be farther afield than my life in La

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<v Speaker 3>or my life anywhere else for that matter. But I

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<v Speaker 3>have a cleaning lady that comes like once a week

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<v Speaker 3>and that's it. And my place here is small enough

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<v Speaker 3>that I can't really blow anything up. But when I

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<v Speaker 3>first came here for two weeks in COVID, I was

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<v Speaker 3>using the I was washing my own clothes for the

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<v Speaker 3>first time in many, many years, and I was using

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<v Speaker 3>the dryer as a washer, and I was putting the

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<v Speaker 3>detergent in the dryer, and then my clothes would come

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<v Speaker 3>out and they were like stained and tide eyed. They

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<v Speaker 3>were dry, though, and so I was so confused because

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<v Speaker 3>the dryer's on top of the washer, the washers, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like one of those stacked things. And so for

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<v Speaker 3>the longest time I was like, I don't understand. It's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't be this bad at washing clothes, and and

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<v Speaker 3>it struck me that I was. Yes, that was a

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<v Speaker 3>big wake up call for me. I thought, Wow, you're

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<v Speaker 3>a real fucking idiot.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, me too. Why are we twins? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>And we don't look like Choin's but we have a

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<v Speaker 4>lot in common.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yeah, we're literally fra turtle.

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<v Speaker 4>We're fraternal. We're fraternal from different continents.

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<v Speaker 5>In the seventh grade, I did have blonde hair, so

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<v Speaker 5>I did wonder yeaheah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that was you looking for your real mother. So

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<v Speaker 3>you were in the New York Times talking about the

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<v Speaker 3>joke that changed your life. It says that there's a

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<v Speaker 3>joke that Tig Nataro told that What was that joke

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<v Speaker 3>from Tig It's.

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<v Speaker 5>Called no moleste if we name jokes, right, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's just about how when she was performing in Mexico. Right,

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<v Speaker 5>every time she's in a hotel, she puts that do

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<v Speaker 5>not disturb sign up but in Spanish it's no moleeste

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<v Speaker 5>and you just laugh if you're like an English speaker,

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<v Speaker 5>because you know that's scary to have to put that

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<v Speaker 5>up every night.

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<v Speaker 3>And so, by the way, we should have signs that's

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<v Speaker 3>say that at our hotel rooms in America anyway, we

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<v Speaker 3>should have signs that say no molested.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what, Actually, that's very true. That joke didn't

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<v Speaker 5>age well, because these days you do need that.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally, I remember that joke from Tig. Tig has a

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<v Speaker 3>great joke writing ability. You do that too, because you

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<v Speaker 3>have great jokes, but you're also telling personal stories.

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<v Speaker 4>So you combine the two because you know.

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<v Speaker 3>There's comics that just tell jokes, set up, premise, set up,

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<v Speaker 3>and like a punchline. Whereas many comedians are storytellers, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a storyteller. I tell stories, and there are jokes within

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<v Speaker 3>the stories and punchlines within the stories. But you blend

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<v Speaker 3>both of those things together. I think very nicely.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you. I mean, we all didn't live forty years

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<v Speaker 5>each year like you did. You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Where every time I hear your stories, I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>but she's only eight years old and she already did

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<v Speaker 5>what she's she's spiking people's lemonades. You know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>like you know at a young age.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeahah, yeah, I know what you mean.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I need to blend, you know, sometimes jokes about

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<v Speaker 5>them because I'm like, you know, big old things didn't

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<v Speaker 5>happen every month.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, absolutely, I understand. Ots go.

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<v Speaker 3>So, how has it been going with you and Ryan

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<v Speaker 3>on the road? What where have you guys been lately?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I can't I didn't see I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 3>you in almost like, I don't know, has it been

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<v Speaker 3>a year.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's been a year. I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 4>you since. We had a dinner party at my friend's

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<v Speaker 4>house while she was upstairs in her bedroom.

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<v Speaker 5>I know, right, we just took over her place and

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<v Speaker 5>her dinner time. I feel like we were just eating

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<v Speaker 5>your friend's tacos. It was meant for her kids, and

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<v Speaker 5>we were eating them.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I was staying at my friend Allison's house,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, Alison, can I have some people

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<v Speaker 3>over for dinner tonight?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I wasn't even staying there.

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<v Speaker 3>I just said that was a good meeting point because

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<v Speaker 3>you guys are so far east and my house wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>really fully done, and I was dating someone at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I had my mountain man there and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, let's all have dinner. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a good middle spot. So I just called

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<v Speaker 3>my friend and she said, I said, can I have

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<v Speaker 3>some people over for dinner? And she's like, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>getting my eyelashes done and I'm like, no, no, you're

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<v Speaker 3>not invited, Like can I have people over for dinner?

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<v Speaker 4>And we're doing our own thing and she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>oh oh yeah absolutely. So that was the last time

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<v Speaker 4>I think we saw each other, right.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yeah, It's like a very classic hangout with Chelsea

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<v Speaker 5>handler moment. Yeah, we're at one point we were hanging out,

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<v Speaker 5>drinking tequilas, eating tacos. I went inside and saw kids.

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<v Speaker 5>I screamed because for a second I was like, wait, right,

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<v Speaker 5>this isn't Chelsea's house. I was like, who are they?

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<v Speaker 5>Who are they? They're exactly their house.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine how I felt when I saw the kids and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, whoaa, I just asked to have a

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<v Speaker 3>dinner party here. I didn't sign up for this sort

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<v Speaker 3>of chicanery.

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<v Speaker 5>That's right. I didn't know we were all eating the

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<v Speaker 5>same meal. Oh this is your meal.

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<v Speaker 3>Where are you on the subject of having children? Are

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<v Speaker 3>you ever going to procreate?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 5>Remember that's our sisterhood promise.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I just wanted to make sure nothing has changed.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. No, that biological clock they talk about that doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>exist within me. I don't even own a real clock, right,

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<v Speaker 5>So no, I don't you know that's such a big

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<v Speaker 5>thing that's supposedly quickly changes within you. No, it's not

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<v Speaker 5>like my favorite color changing.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, I understand that. So how has it been traveling

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<v Speaker 4>with Ryan? What have you guys learned?

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<v Speaker 3>Like your relationship? You spend so much time with your husband.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know anyone who spends more time

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<v Speaker 3>with their with their husband. Do you guys ever fight?

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<v Speaker 5>We do? Yes, we do, But what do you fight about?

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<v Speaker 5>Mostly it's you know, oh, let's go. You have to

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<v Speaker 5>put the keys in the right place every time, the

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<v Speaker 5>same place. It's very simple, you know, it's a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of that. I do ask a lot of him because

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<v Speaker 5>he works with me and you know, for me, and

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<v Speaker 5>so yeah, sometimes it's that. And I've been I've been

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<v Speaker 5>keeping up. I've been trying to be more organized because

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<v Speaker 5>it's a reciprocal thing right, relationships. But we've we've been

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<v Speaker 5>we've been to Asia, We've been to Australia, New Zealand

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<v Speaker 5>and Europe with my tour together.

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<v Speaker 3>And you brought your Did you bring your grandmother or

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<v Speaker 3>your mother on one of those trips you, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>on a.

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<v Speaker 4>Couple of those trips, right.

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to, but honestly they're too old now. So

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<v Speaker 5>uh yeah, So it's just me and Ryan, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>going to see parents together. Took him to a cabaret

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<v Speaker 5>that was fun, you know, and so yeah, I love

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<v Speaker 5>seeing different cultures. We love traveling together. And just based

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<v Speaker 5>on how people laugh, I feel like you can really

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<v Speaker 5>learn a lot about a culture, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh huh, Like why what culture surprised you?

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<v Speaker 6>Like?

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<v Speaker 4>Which cultures were the most surprising to you?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, the Scandinavians really surprised me in a pleasant way.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't know anything about them. I had seen the

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<v Speaker 5>movie Frozen. It's an animated movie. I said, is it

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<v Speaker 5>kind of like that?

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<v Speaker 6>You know?

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<v Speaker 5>And because I was so worried, I said, all my

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<v Speaker 5>life right in America, I've had to teach people how

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<v Speaker 5>to pronounce my name Otsko that you is there. But

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<v Speaker 5>it's silent, right, So I said, how am I gonna,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, connect to Norway? How am I going to

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<v Speaker 5>explain that to people in Iceland? Are they going to

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<v Speaker 5>understand me? Are they going to get my jokes? And

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<v Speaker 5>then I go there and they're like, bitch, my name

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<v Speaker 5>is thiro biro Jon's daughter. Okay, I have a one girl,

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<v Speaker 5>she said, my cousin. I have a cousin. Her name

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<v Speaker 5>is your four East is not a problem for me.

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<v Speaker 5>I felt so seen, you know what I mean? And

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<v Speaker 5>so I loved the Scandinavians. They are true weirdos. You're

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<v Speaker 5>doing Scandinavia too, right, Yes, yes, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think we're doing like sixteen shows, thirteen countries. Yes, So

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<v Speaker 3>I fucking love this schedule. I mean I would like

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit more downtime in between, but fuck it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I go, you know what it's like, you

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<v Speaker 3>go at this pace and then you acclimate to this

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<v Speaker 3>pace and then you just survive it, like it's like

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<v Speaker 3>you're surviving your own.

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<v Speaker 5>Tour, right, totally. Yeah, we extended it. We did it

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<v Speaker 5>over a month. We have the same tour people. I

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<v Speaker 5>knew you were going to Europe. I was so excited.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like ah, I want to tell her all

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<v Speaker 5>about it. And you know the I ranked the countries

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<v Speaker 5>based on shyest to liveliest that I've performed.

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<v Speaker 4>In Okay, which and ones are the shyest.

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<v Speaker 5>Shyest number twenty eight. Sitting at number twenty eight is

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<v Speaker 5>the Belgians.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh really.

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<v Speaker 5>My opener did a backflip to silence during his set

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<v Speaker 5>and then he had to that's the Belgians. He had

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<v Speaker 5>to then walk back to the mic, also in silence

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<v Speaker 5>because he was far away from it by then. Isn't

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<v Speaker 5>that wild?

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<v Speaker 4>That's good to know, though, That's good to know.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to Brussels, so I'll be there.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>What about the Swiss?

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<v Speaker 5>The Swiss? The Swiss, Oh, they were pretty lively, Actually

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<v Speaker 5>they were pretty They were more lively. The Swedish too,

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<v Speaker 5>and Parisians. I was told they're going to be very quiet,

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<v Speaker 5>but they were one of the liveliest crowds I had.

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<v Speaker 5>They were very locals too. They're getting weirder and they're

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<v Speaker 5>getting into English speaking stand up. It's really beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, because half the places I'm going, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>are we sure they speak English? My friend and who

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<v Speaker 3>lives in Sweden, he's like, listen, no one speaks English

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<v Speaker 3>and Sweden.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, what are you fucking talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been there people, everyone speaks English and sweet He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>nobody speaks English. So I don't know if he's fucking

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<v Speaker 3>with me. I assume he's fucking with me because I

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<v Speaker 3>just stopped responding. I don't like those kinds of antagonistic texts.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree. He just he just wants to see if

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<v Speaker 5>you'll get on stage and speak slower because you've been

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<v Speaker 5>lied to.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so hard for me to speak slowly. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't have that clip. Even when I was

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<v Speaker 3>recording my book, they're like, can you slow it down?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, that's not authentic. I'm like, me slowing down

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<v Speaker 3>my talking doesn't sound like how I tell a story.

0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.480
<v Speaker 3>I have to tell a story like this. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and so either they're going to catch on or they're not.

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<v Speaker 3>The great thing is I'll just be in one place

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<v Speaker 3>for each day and then I'm out, so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll see.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh gosh, it was it was my favorite. Yeah, one

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<v Speaker 5>day is enough. I feel like my opener also was

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<v Speaker 5>newly single, so it's fun to see him going out

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<v Speaker 5>every night to hook up with different men, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, oh yeah, of course I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm bringing Yaminika to a few of my dates.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Yaminika, and she is me for Dick, So

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<v Speaker 3>we are hoping to just get her plucked left, right

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<v Speaker 3>and center throughout Europe. Europe is not going to know

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<v Speaker 3>what hit them once they meet Yaminika.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, the two of you together arrested Ja.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a real hard time together keeping our shit together.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one bad decision after another.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah you are You're that White Castle movie, Harold and

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<v Speaker 5>Kumar Kumar. Yeah, the two of you trying to find

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<v Speaker 5>weed in Sweden exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, because I can't travel with drugs anymore because I've

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<v Speaker 3>talked so openly about my love for them, so I

0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:37.639
<v Speaker 3>can no longer transport them. So that leaves me with

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<v Speaker 3>having to find drugs when I get there. But luckily,

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<v Speaker 3>my reputation procedes itself, and people are very hip to

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<v Speaker 3>bringing as you've seen yourself, people are very hip to

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<v Speaker 3>bringing me drugs, and I encourage that.

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<v Speaker 5>That's where that's the only that's where our brands differ

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit. Where people do throw like mushrooms at

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<v Speaker 5>you from the crowd on the stage right. And then

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<v Speaker 5>for me, people show up to my shows in wigs

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<v Speaker 5>of my bull cut, so it's a little different. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>more I'm more like Mini Mouse, you know what I mean? Yeah, right, yeah, yeah,

0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:13.159
<v Speaker 5>and you're like, you're like Papa Smurf.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm more like Papa Smurf and you're more like Mini Mouse.

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<v Speaker 5>I knew it. Papas Murph was definitely a drug dealer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Okay, we're gonna take a break and we'll be

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<v Speaker 3>right back with Otsco.

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<v Speaker 4>Okotska, We're back with Otsco.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we're gonna take some callers. Catherine, what do we

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<v Speaker 3>what do we got in?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So this first one is a written one.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Anne Marie. She says, Dear Chelsea, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>listener in the UK. I listen every week and love

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<v Speaker 2>the show. This is an off pieced topic, but one

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<v Speaker 2>that I'd love for you to answer. I'm a writer,

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<v Speaker 2>mainly TV comedy shows and more recently I turned my

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<v Speaker 2>attention to drama. I'm the same age as you, Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to write a show to perform myself.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be kind of stand up. But despite my my

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<v Speaker 2>ability around creating a story. I don't really know where

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<v Speaker 2>to start with stand up. Do I just go to

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<v Speaker 2>a comedy club and watch and learn? Do I just

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<v Speaker 2>get up? My TV writing centers on complicated female dynamics,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'd love to expand on that. I'm not exactly

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<v Speaker 2>shy and retiring, but I've never done anything near stand up.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'd love your advice as I love your comedy

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<v Speaker 2>and the way you present yourself in the world. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>also super impressed slash envious by how you vacation, the people,

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<v Speaker 2>the locations, the edibles. Anyway, thank you, Anne, Marie, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>and Marie.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's easy ots go. Don't you think you got

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<v Speaker 3>to get up on stage? First of all, you have

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<v Speaker 3>to just get up on stage, and you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to have a huge plan. You have to have like

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<v Speaker 3>five minutes of an idea, like you if you have

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<v Speaker 3>like three or four premises. I mean, some people beat

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<v Speaker 3>out every single joke that they're going to tell, and

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<v Speaker 3>your storytelling will evolve once you start getting comfortable being

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<v Speaker 3>on stage. So I wouldn't worry about getting into the

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<v Speaker 3>story so much as I would be as just getting

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<v Speaker 3>staged high in front of people and exercising that muscle.

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<v Speaker 4>Have a couple of.

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<v Speaker 3>Jokes, but they don't have to be like, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to have fifteen jokes set up. You can take

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<v Speaker 3>your time, like connecting with the audience, doing crowd work,

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<v Speaker 3>asking questions, because that could spur something in you, and

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<v Speaker 3>that could spur a joke. You know, It's very easy

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<v Speaker 3>to talk to people and then get a new idea

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<v Speaker 3>about how to come back with something.

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<v Speaker 4>But the most important thing is to get on stage.

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<v Speaker 3>Just get on stage and start getting your stage time prepare. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>look at this, I just got a text. My phone

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<v Speaker 3>just lit up, Yaminika Saunders. I swear, I swear I

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<v Speaker 3>watched this. This is off topic, but I want to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about it. I swear when you talk about people

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<v Speaker 3>that the texts are being held in the iCloud and

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<v Speaker 3>then they come through when your phone here is that name,

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<v Speaker 3>because your phone wants you on your phone as much

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<v Speaker 3>as possible, so that some of these texts are just

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<v Speaker 3>waiting and waiting and waiting, and then when you say

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<v Speaker 3>their name, they come up. I saw this in a

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<v Speaker 3>movie and I didn't believe it. I'm like, there's no

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<v Speaker 3>way they're holding the text, But I believe they are

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<v Speaker 3>and today is proof.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I swear that's the real science.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, don't you think as go don't you think you

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<v Speaker 3>just have to get on stage, Like what was your

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<v Speaker 3>first time on stage?

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<v Speaker 5>Like, yeah, for sure, getting on stage, but also watching

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of it is nice, so like, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>go go catch Chelsea when she's in London. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>like watching other people and then just the way they

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<v Speaker 5>storytell is very inspiring, you know, especially if you feel

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<v Speaker 5>like stuck right because then you know, just to see

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<v Speaker 5>someone else and how they structured together a bunch of

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<v Speaker 5>their stories or what they found interesting about their stories

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<v Speaker 5>to make it to punch line, that's really helpful. And

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<v Speaker 5>then going on stage, you know, because just consuming other artists,

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<v Speaker 5>I think so good, even if it's like in the

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<v Speaker 5>back of your head and you're like, oh, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know where I learned to realize the cut sounds funny

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<v Speaker 5>or whatever. Oh, it's because I saw, you know, that

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<v Speaker 5>comedian do it on stage and that made me laugh.

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<v Speaker 5>I took a stand up class, so that was how

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<v Speaker 5>I got up on stage for the first time. So

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<v Speaker 5>that's a little bit of a different journey.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like, but you should map out what you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna say, you know, you should map out and have

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<v Speaker 3>an idea if you're one of those people who needs

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<v Speaker 3>like and you can take it on stage with you. You

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<v Speaker 3>can take a piece of paper up there, don't be

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:17.000
<v Speaker 3>shy about that to look and see. You know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>with all that adrenaline you can kind of forget a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of things that you want to say, but have

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<v Speaker 3>a plan of what you're gonna do when you get

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<v Speaker 3>up there, and it can be a story, it can

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<v Speaker 3>be jokes, but like just start to just use that

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<v Speaker 3>as a way to get comfortable on stage so that

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<v Speaker 3>then when you have longer periods of time to be

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<v Speaker 3>on stage, that's where the storytelling can come in. But

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<v Speaker 3>I would treat the initial time as just like an introduction,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to stand up and to have a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of good jokes that you're willing to tell and try

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<v Speaker 3>and do some crowd work, because some people don't even

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<v Speaker 3>know they're good at crowd work, and so they do

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<v Speaker 3>it for the first time and then it's great. If

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<v Speaker 3>you're scared of it, then try it once and see

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<v Speaker 3>if you like it. You might not be scared of it,

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<v Speaker 3>but definitely just put the hours in you know you

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<v Speaker 3>need the hours to get comfortable with something right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, our next question comes from Alex. She is calling in.

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<v Speaker 2>She's thirty three, so the subject line is tips to

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<v Speaker 2>avoid identity crisis after quitting your dream job. Hey, Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 2>I took a gummy before writing this, so bear with me.

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<v Speaker 2>I was an annoying overachiever my whole life. Double major

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<v Speaker 2>in college, graduated cum laudie while working the whole time,

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<v Speaker 2>straight to law school, graduated with honors, passed the bar

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<v Speaker 2>exam first time, and got hired at what I thought

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<v Speaker 2>was my dream job at twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah, gross.

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<v Speaker 2>I have wanted to be a public defender since the

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<v Speaker 2>moment I found out the job existed, and I started

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<v Speaker 2>interning at my local public defender's office when I was nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything I know and love came from this office. I

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<v Speaker 2>met my husband here, many of my closest friends. I

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<v Speaker 2>got my insane rescue dog from one of our unhoused clients, etc.

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<v Speaker 5>Etc.

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<v Speaker 2>However, these last two years and full time mental health rotation,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll spare you the details unless you're truly thirsty. Reached

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<v Speaker 2>critical mass, extreme burnout. I was a pin prick away

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<v Speaker 2>from sobbing or screaming in your face at any time

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:09.120
<v Speaker 2>I was so emotionally exhausted. After lots of overthinking, doubting,

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<v Speaker 2>self hatred over the last several months, I finally made

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<v Speaker 2>the brave, correct decision and quit. I'm thirty three and unemployed.

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<v Speaker 2>My heart rate spiked just typing that out. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>calling it a sabbatical to avoid a few panic attacks

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<v Speaker 2>if I can. My therapist and I agreed, I'm taking

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<v Speaker 2>three months off. The first month to truly rest, the

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<v Speaker 2>next month to get the juices flowing for what the

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<v Speaker 2>next chapter will look like, and the third month to

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<v Speaker 2>execute on those ideas. I'm very confident in the decision

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<v Speaker 2>I made, but shitting bricks over the next chapter. How

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<v Speaker 2>do I handle these next three months as I figure

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<v Speaker 2>out the direction I'm going to go? Because when I

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<v Speaker 2>was twenty five, I thought this was my endgame. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know that sounds naivestits, but I believe that to

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<v Speaker 2>my bones it was my identity. How do I best

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<v Speaker 2>spend this time disentangling from the job, the job, from

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<v Speaker 2>my identity and being okay with it signed while trying

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<v Speaker 2>not to increase my SSRI dosage.

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<v Speaker 3>Alex Oh, Alex, you're fucking crushing it. First of all,

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<v Speaker 3>what are you talking about. You may have all these

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 3>great decisions for your own mental health. You got out

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<v Speaker 3>of a job that you thought was your dream job

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<v Speaker 3>that proved to be mentally debilitating to you and mentally

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<v Speaker 3>harmful to your health.

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<v Speaker 4>Like that is amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you have a whole and you're thirty three, you

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 3>have your whole life ahead of you to do phase two.

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Like you're an example to so many people that are

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<v Speaker 3>in jobs that they hate to actually walk away.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you're already on the right track.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything you said is great, Like, of course there's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be some anxiety about what you're gonna do next, but

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 3>you should also trust in the fact that you just

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:41.880
<v Speaker 3>got yourself out of a situation that was harmful to you.

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<v Speaker 3>So you are the best person to take care of yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>which means you're gonna get to the place that you're

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<v Speaker 3>going and you're going to figure out what that next

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 3>step is in a natural amount of time. You're giving

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.239
<v Speaker 3>yourself a month to do this, a month to do that.

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 3>These are all amazing things, Like you don't even need

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<v Speaker 3>any advice from me, Hotsco.

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<v Speaker 4>You could probably give Osco summed, do you need advice?

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<v Speaker 5>Help me out?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, I have to keep this bowl cup forever.

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<v Speaker 5>Speaking of an identity crisis, I'm like, can I ever

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:12.119
<v Speaker 5>grow my hair out ever? Again? What happens if I

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 5>lose my hairstylist friend? You know, to other clients, what

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 5>am I going to do?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 5>But for real you it's it's kind of like a divorce.

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<v Speaker 5>Whenever someone's reached a point of having to do that,

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:24.199
<v Speaker 5>it's because it needed to be done. Yeah, and so

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 5>this realization is badass. I would just say, like, I

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<v Speaker 5>would just say, clock the moments of joy that you

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 5>feel when you're trying different things and different and then

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 5>you go okay, So that's a that's what I like.

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 5>It's good to start to realize what you do like

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 5>now you know. And so that's all because you knew

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 5>what you didn't like. Yeah, so that's I guess.

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 7>It's it's also knowing how much rest is like too

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 7>much rest. I've never rested in my life. My parents

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 7>are immigrants. Let's go a huge fan. I know you

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 7>can relate to this. Productivity is beaten into your head

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<v Speaker 7>with a bat. So the idea of not doing any

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 7>thing because I have to and there's an expectation on

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 7>the other side. But just resting is a very foreign concept.

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 7>So I guess balancing what is rest and healing versus

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 7>what is productive steps to be taking because I still

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 7>have to work at some point, Like I'm only thirty three,

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 7>Guys still have to actually make money.

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 6>Have you guys taken time like this before in your lives?

0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 5>I have.

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 4>I have all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I look at that rest as like filling up my bank,

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 3>do you know what I mean? Like my emotional well being,

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:30.280
<v Speaker 3>Like I have burnt out so many times in my life,

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 3>and now I understand the balance, Like I understand that

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 3>the rest is as important as the work. The play

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 3>and the vacation is as important as the work. And

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 3>so just because you're not doing anything for a month,

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 3>like yeah, if you're not doing anything for six months,

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 3>that's a different story. If you say, Okay, I'm assigning

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 3>this month to resting and decompressing so that I can

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 3>get focused and get re energized. And you know, get

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 3>I almost said get fucked. Maybe you need to get

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 3>fucked too. But all of these things, like fill yourself

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 3>up with all of the stuff that you're are going

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 3>to need to get you to that next phase, which

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 3>is going to be a more productive phase of actually

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 3>thinking about where you want to go in your career,

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 3>what the next steps are. I think you're completely healthy

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 3>and you know what you're doing. You're breaking a cycle.

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 3>You're talking about your parents coming to this country and

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 3>this work ethic, which is of course immigrants have. You know,

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 3>you come to America and you want to be successful,

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 3>so you can't really blame people for doing that. But

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 3>you don't need to be working all the time. You

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 3>need to be like mentally healthy and then your work

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 3>can be joyful. You know, you want to be able

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 3>to put everything positive into your work. So I totally

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 3>think everything.

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<v Speaker 4>You're doing is just spot on.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Alex, Can I ask what are some of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that you're doing in this period of active rest,

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<v Speaker 2>Like are you going outside?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you meditate? Like what sort of in your day

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<v Speaker 1>to day?

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<v Speaker 7>So it's actually really funny. So I walk the dog

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 7>more than he's everyone walked in his entire life. I

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 7>am reading all of the nerdy, romanticy books that I've

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 7>never had time to read before and making no apologies

0:30:57.800 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 7>for it. Like my husband comes home, and I've been

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 7>on the CA for eight and a half hours, and

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 7>I'm very I'm journaling and taking a lot of gummies

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 7>because it helps me med it like it helps you

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 7>be creative, and.

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm with you.

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 6>So I'm journaling a lot.

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<v Speaker 7>And there's a huge scary part of me that realizes

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 7>that maybe I don't even want to be a lawyer,

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 7>which is a bummer because I spent so much time

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 7>and energy and money towards this education and I feel

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 7>like I gained the skill set of not having any

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 7>fear of public speaking, not being afraid of grumpy old

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 7>white men yelling at me because they did that every

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 7>day in a robe like that doesn't scare me in

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:33.479
<v Speaker 7>any field.

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 6>And I really like to write.

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 7>So there's a huge part of me that wants to

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 7>take a risk, even in that direction and something that's

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 7>not adjacent to my education at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and as a person who like everyone in my

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 2>family is a lawyer except for me, I can say, like,

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of ways to use your law

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 2>degree that like do not involve going to court, that

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 2>don't involve sort of like a traditional sort of like

0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 2>legal profession as we think about it, but also like, yeah,

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:03.160
<v Speaker 2>you have the freedom now to like reconsider. Maybe you

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 2>use it again in fifteen years when you want to

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 2>do something different.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 2>It's you know, it doesn't mean that that's a wasted experience.

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 2>And like you said, you've gained all these other tools

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 2>in your toolbox.

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 3>My sister was an attorney, hated it, hated working for

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 3>a law firm, quit that and got a job for

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 3>this health company where she was writing.

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 4>She was as a lawyer writing all.

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 3>Of like the healthcare laws, like helping to create the

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 3>healthcare laws around it. So she kind of switched because

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 3>she was like I hate this, I hate defending people,

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 3>I hate like this kind of litigation aspect. She's like,

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to take this healthcare degree and turn it

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 3>into something else where she can use her other skill sets,

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 3>which is writing and editing and all of that stuff.

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 3>So she's kind of made a different career out of

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 3>being a healthcare attorney. And you can do the same thing.

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 3>You just have to find out what drives you and

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 3>what moves you, and and your degree is going to

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 3>help you in many ways. Yes, I mean you just

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 3>listed a bunch of them, so like you should be

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 3>doing a podcast where you're giving advice to people.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're so mucky. Maybe that's your next marriage.

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 7>Maybe that's yeah, the landmark of the overconfident only daughter.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, right, dear Alex, there's no reason.

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, leave it to Chelsea to try to put you

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 5>back to work. She just said she needed rest. Chelsea. Okay,

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 5>she's like, oh, you start a podcast, come up with merch.

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 5>I love it.

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank I take care, Alex, thank you, I'll take care.

0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 4>Well that was fucking easy. Yeah.

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 3>I know that girl was already doing everything that she

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 3>needed to be told.

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 5>I do.

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:32.280
<v Speaker 1>She's doing great.

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 2>And you know, we don't think of like taking these

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 2>periods of rest as like rest is part of the work,

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 2>like you said, Chelsea, Like, we don't think of it

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 2>that way, but I think it's important to think of

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 2>it that way.

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, no, I do. I'm a big proponent of that.

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean, how do you feel about that? Ots go,

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 3>do you guys get do you guys get rest? Do

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 3>you actually rest?

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 5>You said you found the balance of work and play.

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 5>I'm still finding that. But I think it's because if

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 5>you're really into work and you're as fraid to like

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 5>rest too long. You can totally schedule it in. You

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 5>can put it in a calendar, you know what I mean,

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 5>so that you know, oh, this week is for play

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:11.840
<v Speaker 5>and then next week is for work. So if you

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 5>feel anxiety about playing too hard, then you can do that,

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 5>you know, just like I think you can schedule in

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:18.839
<v Speaker 5>six I'm a big, you.

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Know, scheduler of sex. I actually scheduled the sex between

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 3>you and Ryan. I don't know if you knew that,

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:24.880
<v Speaker 3>but I actually am the one that puts that on

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 3>your calendar.

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 1>It's in Chelsea for seven years.

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:30.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no wonder. I was like, wow, it's very frequent

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 5>this month for some reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, I decided to step things up this month. Specifically,

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:36.359
<v Speaker 3>I said, we need to work.

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 5>Who's making us do it from eight am to eight pm? Yours?

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 4>Surely?

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 5>Thank you well.

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Our next color is Sarah. She's as dear Chelsea. I've

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 2>been in my husband's family for almost fifteen years and

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 2>recently had a falling out with my sister in law,

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:54.919
<v Speaker 2>my husband's brother's wife. She's been icing me out ever

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:57.839
<v Speaker 2>since I found out. She had the whole family over

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 2>for our niece's birthday and my husband and I I

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:03.320
<v Speaker 2>were not invited. In her words, it wasn't a quote

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:06.400
<v Speaker 2>party but a quote drop by with cake and gifts.

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 2>I can accept this, but the problem is now my

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 2>sister in law will not speak to me at family

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 2>events or text me back ever since I expressed my

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:17.399
<v Speaker 2>hurt at not being invited. My biggest concern is she's

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 2>the aunt to my two children and continues to fawn

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 2>over them while ignoring me at family events. I was

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 2>in her wedding, yet I feel as though I'm being

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:27.840
<v Speaker 2>treated as a complete stranger. I've kept my side of

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:29.839
<v Speaker 2>the street clean by reaching out to her, and she

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 2>continues to talk to members of my husband's family, but

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 2>not directly to me about what she's upset about. I

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 2>need a real bitch's advice on how to move forward

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:40.240
<v Speaker 2>from this. Do I humble myself and try to discuss

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 2>the miscommunication again or does act like nothing happened. We've

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 2>been closed for eight years, so this is quite the

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 2>proverbial slap in the face.

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 5>Help.

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:53.800
<v Speaker 3>Sarah, Hi Sarah Oh, Hi Hi otsco Okotska's our special

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 3>guest today.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, Hi, Hi, So what was the falling out? What happened?

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<v Speaker 6>So the actual falling out was like, it was her

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 6>daughter's birthday, and we had been texting like that morning.

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 6>I had given her a gift earlier on in the week,

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 6>like to give to her daughter, because I knew I

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 6>wasn't going to see her on her birthday, because she

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 6>was like, you know, well we're going out of town

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 6>and all this stuff. So then the morning of her birthday,

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 6>she actually sent me like, I sent her a video

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:27.400
<v Speaker 6>from my daughter who's her cousin, saying, you know, happy birthday,

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:29.799
<v Speaker 6>hope you have a great day. And then she sent

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:32.800
<v Speaker 6>a video back of like the whole family singing happy

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:35.960
<v Speaker 6>birthday to her daughter. There was a cake, you know,

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.879
<v Speaker 6>there were the president, the president I had given her

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 6>like earlier that week, and they were all like singing,

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 6>and I was like, so everyone was invited. So I

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 6>responded and I said.

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 3>Wait a second, I'm sorry, hold on back up. You

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:50.120
<v Speaker 3>gave her a gift because you weren't going to be

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 3>able to see her on her birthday exactly, and then

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 3>she had a birthday party on her birthday.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, But when I said that, my feelings were hurt

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:00.839
<v Speaker 6>because we lived three minutes away, literally right up the road.

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 3>But how did you know you weren't going to see

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:04.360
<v Speaker 3>her on your birthday, her birthday.

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 6>Because she said that they were going out of town,

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 6>like she her and you know, her daughter and her

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 6>husband were going out of town, and she was like, well,

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:14.719
<v Speaker 6>we're just going on our trip, you know, for our

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:18.439
<v Speaker 6>daughter's birthday. So you know, thanks for giving me the gift, now,

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 6>you know. And so I felt like it was kind

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:23.319
<v Speaker 6>of omitted. But so then when I expressed that, I

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 6>was like her, you know, by not being invited because

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:27.719
<v Speaker 6>she sent me that video. So I was like, this

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 6>is kind of like really strange, right, I said, you know,

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:34.239
<v Speaker 6>I'm hurt that, like, you know, we weren't invited because

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 6>we lived right up the road. And then she didn't

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:37.799
<v Speaker 6>talk to me after that.

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:39.799
<v Speaker 4>All that was the falling out. That there was no

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 4>prior falling out. Oh yes, that's confusing.

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 6>Isn't a falling out? Like what is it? No?

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<v Speaker 3>I I would the way I listened to your letter,

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:53.799
<v Speaker 3>I thought I heard that you guys had a falling out,

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 3>and then this was like the aftermath of the falling out.

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:57.880
<v Speaker 4>So this is the actual incident.

0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:00.800
<v Speaker 3>What does your husband does any one in the family,

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 3>has anyone conveyed to you what the issue is or

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 3>why she didn't invite.

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:08.839
<v Speaker 6>You or no, I was never really given a conversation

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:11.560
<v Speaker 6>because she just didn't talk to me after that. So

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 6>it was in a message with her and her husband,

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 6>and he did say right away, he was like, oh, sorry,

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 6>we didn't mean to exclude you, but she was like

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:23.800
<v Speaker 6>radio silent. So I was like, was it something else

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 6>that happened.

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it sounds like something else happened that you're not

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 3>aware of. So I would reach out to her again,

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 3>first of all, your family members, so like, it's not

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:35.799
<v Speaker 3>really helpful to not be speaking, especially when you don't

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 3>know what happened. So maybe you did something that you

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:40.320
<v Speaker 3>don't realize that hurt her feelings.

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 4>And I would start with that.

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 3>I would send her a text or an email or

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 3>whatever's like the best way to contact her and just

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 3>say I'm sorry, so sorry. I don't know did I

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:52.320
<v Speaker 3>do something to hurt you, because it feels like I did,

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:55.480
<v Speaker 3>and I want to make sure that I'm fully accountable,

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:58.879
<v Speaker 3>like totally, just be the bigger person and ask her

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:01.319
<v Speaker 3>why she's upset with you, Like you're not responding to

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:01.760
<v Speaker 3>my text.

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 4>We've been friends for eight years. This is very strange.

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Please feel free to tell me if I've done something

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 3>to hurt your feelings.

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, hands down, like good old fashioned communication.

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:12.759
<v Speaker 3>Right, absolutely, You're part of the same family, so as

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 3>long as there's not some huge rift like this should

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:17.360
<v Speaker 3>be fixable, right.

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 6>I totally agree, Oh fantastic, you're the best.

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean it's pretty obvious advice, no offense.

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 6>Freaking obvious. But you know what it's been creating, like

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:28.279
<v Speaker 6>just so much awkwardness, you know.

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, right.

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:33.240
<v Speaker 6>It tends like we have a lot of family events,

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:36.759
<v Speaker 6>you know, together we all close, and then like, you know,

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 6>I'll go to these events and like recently she started

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 6>kind of being like hey, you know, like maybe that's

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:43.360
<v Speaker 6>her way of trying to get a little closer. But

0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:45.319
<v Speaker 6>then she still will not text. And this is like

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 6>going from us texting multiple times a week. You know,

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:50.919
<v Speaker 6>our kids are going to the same daycare, like going

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 6>to exercise classes together too, you know. Now she'll talk

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 6>to me at the events every now and again, like

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:57.759
<v Speaker 6>she'll be like oh hey, like at least a high

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:02.279
<v Speaker 6>but still like no text, no personal contact. So I'm like,

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 6>I wonder if she's trying to just like show face

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:05.360
<v Speaker 6>for like the in laws and stuff.

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:08.360
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if this is a like to pull her

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:11.239
<v Speaker 2>aside at one of the family events sort of thing

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:12.959
<v Speaker 2>and like get her face to face, because I feel

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 2>like sometimes when people are being weird like this, if

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:17.080
<v Speaker 2>you actually just like address it to their face, they'll

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<v Speaker 2>like totally back down like oh no, no, there's like

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<v Speaker 2>nothing weird, and then it's like, well, they do sort

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 2>of have to stick to their guns a little bit more,

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Whereas via text, like she might give you like a

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:27.840
<v Speaker 2>one word like I'm fine, everything's fine or whatever, and

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<v Speaker 2>then continue to be a weirdo s.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, like humanize myself a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I would say that's right.

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 3>I would say to do it in person so that

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 3>she can't just not respond, because then it's just more

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 3>of the same. It's so weird to not respond, but

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 3>something must have happened that you're not aware of.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you're right, you know. And I'm like I've been

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 6>overthinking it going through it, like I'm like, what could

0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 6>this possibly be? You know. I thought of addressing it

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 6>with my mother in law myself, because she's one of

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:55.799
<v Speaker 6>the people that she's been talking to, you know, like

0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:58.839
<v Speaker 6>about my mother in law is super cool, like she

0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 6>I know that you'd be open to a conversation, but

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 6>I don't want to open it up to that, you know,

0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 6>Like I thought I was being the better person initially

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 6>by not doing that. Like I was like, this is

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:11.399
<v Speaker 6>between her and I, like, let's just knock it out.

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 6>But I think an in person conversation would have been better.

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 6>I just thought maybe she needed space, Like I didn't know,

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 6>really you know, how to approach it, because this has

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:23.399
<v Speaker 6>never happened to me before, especially in my tight knit group.

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:25.480
<v Speaker 6>You know, your rider dies, right, so this is like

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 6>totally crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would say, like, yeah, tug to her in person.

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 2>If she's still it's sort of like then she has

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.600
<v Speaker 2>to either commit to like no, everything's fine, or like

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:37.879
<v Speaker 2>if she keeps acting weird after that, then you got

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:39.279
<v Speaker 2>to address it again and be like, all right, what's

0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 2>the deeper thing here?

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything? And then if she.

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:44.839
<v Speaker 2>Keeps being weird, just I guess just let her be

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of weird, you know, like you don't necessarily have

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 2>to be talking to her the entire time of family

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 2>events sort of thing, but just know that, you know,

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 2>you're still keeping your side of the street clean.

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:56.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, because if you ask her what's up,

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:58.640
<v Speaker 3>and she hasn't and she's like there's nothing, nothing wrong.

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Then you're like, okay, fine, I tried whatever, Like I

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 3>don't know what to do with you. I don't know

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:04.879
<v Speaker 3>what happened. You're not going to tell me the truth,

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 3>and there's nothing else you could do.

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and hopefully she will change her tune, you know, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Hope so, I mean, because yeah, I feel like I've

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 6>always been a good friend. Like I did like a

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:14.839
<v Speaker 6>speech at her wedding because her like sister didn't want

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 6>to do it, stuff like that, whatever, But there hasn't

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:19.839
<v Speaker 6>been anything I can think of that was just like, oh,

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 6>I really like pissed her off.

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:21.400
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 6>It was like just I feel maybe she I don't know,

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.359
<v Speaker 6>I've like been going around like you're pulling back for

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:28.359
<v Speaker 6>a while, like.

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 3>They hit it straight on, and then you know, if

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 3>you don't get the answer, you like, then wait a

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:34.799
<v Speaker 3>little bit and then talk to her mother, your mother

0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:36.439
<v Speaker 3>in law, and be like listen, I don't know what's

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:38.800
<v Speaker 3>going on here, but this isn't like a healthy dynamic,

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 3>like we all have kids. I want to be friends.

0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't understand what happened. I asked her what happened.

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:45.279
<v Speaker 3>She won't tell me, So how can I you know

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.840
<v Speaker 3>what I mean, but start with her and just be

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:50.919
<v Speaker 3>be direct so that she has to answer.

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:53.319
<v Speaker 6>You totally and like, and I'm okay with not being

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:56.880
<v Speaker 6>like bestie sister in law's too. We've been friends for

0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 6>a long time. But I'm like, it's all right if

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 6>if that's what it's going to be, you know, us

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 6>just seeing each other at the family events.

0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 4>It's just there was no I.

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 6>Guess that would be a weird conversation for her to

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:09.319
<v Speaker 6>have with me, to be like, hey, I don't want

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 6>to be as close as we are, you know, like, but.

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:17.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, maybe that is it, But that seems a little odd.

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:18.359
<v Speaker 6>Weird way to go about it, right.

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Will you check in with us after you guys have

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:22.320
<v Speaker 2>a conversation, let us know if things get better?

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely right, Okay, Well, good luck, thanks Sarah.

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:30.279
<v Speaker 6>Good luck, bye bye, Thanks bye, let's go.

0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:31.879
<v Speaker 3>You don't have a sister in law, right, de Ryan

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 3>doesn't have siblings, or does he?

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:36.319
<v Speaker 5>He does? He has too. Yeah, and so that's still

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 5>a newer dynamic for me too to learn, you know. Yeah,

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 5>because it's like they are relatives, but they kind of

0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 5>are not, you know, and so it's like how much.

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:49.840
<v Speaker 4>Well they are your relatives cots go. First of all, they.

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:52.879
<v Speaker 5>Are I know, they're like listening, They're like, excuse me,

0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 5>what are we? And I'm like, are you friends?

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Now you're gonna be fighting with your sisters?

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:56.879
<v Speaker 3>Ima.

0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 5>I had a small family growing up, so I'm like, okay,

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:02.640
<v Speaker 5>I guess it's new. I'm still learning this chosen family

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:06.440
<v Speaker 5>versus regular family thing, you know, because I married Ryan

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:10.640
<v Speaker 5>and then suddenly I'm an aunt too, right, So that's

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 5>a lot to figure out. It's like, whoa, maybe I'm

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:14.919
<v Speaker 5>not good at being an aunt and I'm okay, I'm

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:15.640
<v Speaker 5>not great.

0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:17.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you know what, you can always improve on

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:18.840
<v Speaker 4>your aunting skills.

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:21.759
<v Speaker 3>It's a new role. So you know, like I don't know,

0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 3>being an ant is kind of the best of both worlds.

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:26.480
<v Speaker 3>You get to be an aunt and with no responsibility, you.

0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:26.919
<v Speaker 4>Know what I mean.

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:29.399
<v Speaker 3>You get to just be like a fun infuser, which

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:31.759
<v Speaker 3>is I take Yeah, I take a lot of joy

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 3>in that, and especially I take a lot of joy

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 3>when things get serious. It's like get the fuck out

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:38.680
<v Speaker 3>of here, you know, Like, if you've got real problems,

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:39.720
<v Speaker 3>go talk to your parents.

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:42.799
<v Speaker 5>No it's true. I know you love it. Yeah, I'm

0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 5>just I'm always trying. I'm still not completely me around them.

0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:49.239
<v Speaker 5>I think when I can I see yeah, yeah, because

0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:51.320
<v Speaker 5>I'm like still getting to know the sister in laws.

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:54.719
<v Speaker 5>So I'm I'm like, yes, you know, I will not

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:58.560
<v Speaker 5>curse around you, and yes, I you know I will

0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:05.440
<v Speaker 5>give you money. And I'm like, god, I'm going, oh.

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:06.279
<v Speaker 3>A great setup. I won't curse around you and I

0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 3>have to pay you perfect.

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god. Yeah, I'm like, what am I in

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:10.760
<v Speaker 5>a church?

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you should start swearing and then you can put

0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 2>money in a tip jar or in a zag.

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:16.880
<v Speaker 4>Every time you swear, you get to give them a dollar.

0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:17.279
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:18.839
<v Speaker 4>Okay, we're gonna take a break and we'll be right

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 4>back with Otsco.

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:27.160
<v Speaker 3>And we're back with Otsko Okotska, who's got a new

0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:30.080
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0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:33.239
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0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 3>it is her sophomore special. Okay, what else do we got?

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:38.239
<v Speaker 3>What do we have to wrap things up today?

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<v Speaker 2>I have one quickie to wrap up with, Abby, says

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 2>dear Chelsea. I have a close friend that has recently

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:49.240
<v Speaker 2>started sending me voice recordings of her singing.

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh, she sings, she sings.

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Beautifully, but her boyfriend doesn't really care to hear her sing.

0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:56.919
<v Speaker 2>So I think I'm the only one getting these, which

0:45:56.960 --> 0:45:59.400
<v Speaker 2>makes me sad. I don't ever listen to them and

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:03.440
<v Speaker 2>their entire sometimes not at all. How do I respond

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:06.680
<v Speaker 2>in a text to the constant voice recording messages? Or

0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:08.040
<v Speaker 2>should I even respond?

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Abby?

0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 5>Wow?

0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:11.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah wow.

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 5>This is a very specific, very specific, very specific incident

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:17.279
<v Speaker 5>and very specific.

0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it is like text etiquette, it's evolving, well etiquette.

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean the etiquette is blown out the window by

0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:27.399
<v Speaker 3>the person recording songs and sending them to.

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 4>Her fucking friend. Who does that?

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:32.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I guess somebody who has a boyfriend

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 3>that won't listen to her singing, which is another problem

0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:35.200
<v Speaker 3>that she has.

0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:36.279
<v Speaker 4>I would just.

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:39.600
<v Speaker 3>Write, honestly, I would write beautiful a couple of times

0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 3>and then I would stop responding.

0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:44.759
<v Speaker 4>That's what I would do. But I don't know.

0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:46.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you want to give your friend some positive

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 3>feedback because she clearly isn't getting it at home, and

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 3>if she is a beautiful singer, and you're not telling

0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:53.120
<v Speaker 3>a lie even if it was bad singing.

0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 4>I would write, that's beautiful.

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:57.719
<v Speaker 3>And then I would write that a couple times, I

0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 3>would write the same thing exactly like that's beautiful, and

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:04.480
<v Speaker 3>then the next time, that's beautiful, and then I stop

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 3>responding Yeah.

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. It's kind of like when a kid is showing

0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:13.319
<v Speaker 5>you a rock over and over. Yeah that's and you're like,

0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:16.920
<v Speaker 5>that's really good, that's so good. And then they're like,

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 5>here's a song that's really cute too, that's so good.

0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:22.920
<v Speaker 5>And then and then you know, if you exactly like

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:25.600
<v Speaker 5>you know, it's a positive reinforcement thing. Once they stop

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 5>hearing it, they go, Okay, I've had my feel of

0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 5>feeling good.

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:32.719
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, I mean I get emails.

0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:34.760
<v Speaker 3>I have a friend who is like, just keep sending

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 3>me emails and she wants like our relationship ended a

0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:41.839
<v Speaker 3>long time ago, and she's trying to rekindle our relationship

0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:43.799
<v Speaker 3>and I'm not interested, but I'm not. I don't want

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:46.520
<v Speaker 3>to be mean. I'm just seriously like, I'm not interested

0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:49.279
<v Speaker 3>in rekindling. Like it's I don't have the bandwidth where

0:47:49.480 --> 0:47:52.359
<v Speaker 3>let's move on. So I wrote back the first time,

0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:55.000
<v Speaker 3>like this is very sweet. I want nothing but the

0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:57.239
<v Speaker 3>best for you. I'm sending you so much love. I

0:47:57.280 --> 0:47:59.280
<v Speaker 3>really don't have any space in my life right now

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 3>to recar to our friendship. I don't mean that as

0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:04.319
<v Speaker 3>an affront to you. I don't hold any ill will

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:07.160
<v Speaker 3>towards you, but that's how I feel. And I'm you know,

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:09.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty busy, So let's just move on in our

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 3>separate ways and let go. Then I get another email.

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:16.520
<v Speaker 3>Then I get a fourth email. I got four emails,

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:19.480
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, she's trying to basically harass me into

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:22.560
<v Speaker 3>rekindling our friendship. And now I have to be like,

0:48:22.840 --> 0:48:25.359
<v Speaker 3>so I stopped responding, you know, but if I get

0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:27.680
<v Speaker 3>another one, I'm gonna be like, you're now you're harassing me,

0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:28.840
<v Speaker 3>Like I set.

0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:31.839
<v Speaker 4>A boundary that you're not like. You know, this isn't now.

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:33.840
<v Speaker 4>This isn't the same as getting a voice memo of

0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:34.680
<v Speaker 4>a song.

0:48:35.200 --> 0:48:39.600
<v Speaker 5>But either way, they're both attacks. Okay, either way, they're

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 5>both attacks. And you were trapped and you didn't ask

0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:42.600
<v Speaker 5>for it.

0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:45.520
<v Speaker 4>It's an assault. It's an assault.

0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:49.400
<v Speaker 5>We all deserve our own boundaries. You know, her boyfriend

0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:52.560
<v Speaker 5>created one with that with her, and now you might

0:48:52.600 --> 0:48:53.640
<v Speaker 5>need two with her too.

0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 2>I had a friend years ago who would like, actually

0:48:57.560 --> 0:49:00.440
<v Speaker 2>do this in person, she'd be like, oh, new song

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:01.960
<v Speaker 2>for my album, and she would be like, let me

0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:03.719
<v Speaker 2>just play as a little snippet, and then she would

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:06.520
<v Speaker 2>play it, but she'd play the whole song and then

0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:09.400
<v Speaker 2>sing it like a foot from my face to my face.

0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:11.680
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, too much of a people pleaser to

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:14.200
<v Speaker 2>just like, go away, but just be grateful.

0:49:14.239 --> 0:49:15.839
<v Speaker 1>This is a voice memo, and you can.

0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:20.319
<v Speaker 5>Tell her to post it online. That's validation she can

0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:21.480
<v Speaker 5>get from somewhere.

0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 4>To go beautiful post. You should post this on Instagram.

0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:28.239
<v Speaker 3>You should post this that's great and brilliant, brilliant, and

0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:31.279
<v Speaker 3>hopefully the response is positive, because otherwise you're going to

0:49:31.320 --> 0:49:33.719
<v Speaker 3>be dealing with a different friend after.

0:49:33.480 --> 0:49:36.400
<v Speaker 4>She gets some public public shaming critique.

0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:38.600
<v Speaker 3>I've hooked up with a couple of guys that are

0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:40.439
<v Speaker 3>in the industry, and when I've hooked up with them,

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<v Speaker 3>I've had one guy show me his pilot, an episode

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<v Speaker 3>of a pilot that he shot from start to finish,

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<v Speaker 3>and this was before we were supposed to have sex.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, I couldn't have sex with him after because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to see your pilot. And then I

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<v Speaker 3>had another guy show me a sizzle reel from a

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<v Speaker 3>movie that he was producing, and I was like, you're

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<v Speaker 3>killing my boner, Like I don't know why people don't

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<v Speaker 3>and understand that. That's like me inviting people over and

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<v Speaker 3>saying watch my stand up special, or Otsco inviting people

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<v Speaker 3>over and being like, hey, not even inviting them to

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<v Speaker 3>watch a special, saying hey, do you want to hear

0:50:10.000 --> 0:50:12.319
<v Speaker 3>some jokes from my special? It's like if they did,

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<v Speaker 3>they'd fucking come see you perform. It's just all so

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<v Speaker 3>like it's so unself aware, like nobody wants to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like taking videos. I can compare it to when

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in Whistler. I take videos for like when I'm

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<v Speaker 3>skiing with the kids. They want videos all the time

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<v Speaker 3>of them they're gonna jump off this or they're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go in the park and they're gonna ride this rail.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't fucking have time for that shit. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not here to take videos of children. If I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to take videos of children, I would have had children.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean, I don't. I'm not the one.

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<v Speaker 5>You go, here's a GoPro. What's beautiful is it captures

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<v Speaker 5>your actions while you move without someone else doing it.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's these things. Guy. I had a guy

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<v Speaker 5>read me poetry before sex too, and I told him

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<v Speaker 5>to say I said, that was good, that was beautiful,

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<v Speaker 5>that same thing you told her to do. And afterwards

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<v Speaker 5>he goes, thank you. I'm either thinking of being a

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<v Speaker 5>poet that travels around the world or be a cop.

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<v Speaker 5>I said, those are two very different things, sweetie. And

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<v Speaker 5>by then it was like an hour in you know,

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<v Speaker 5>so exactly. It's like respect, I came here for you.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to offer you my body.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, my body in my choice. And yeah you should.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, anyone who's on the fence about becoming a poet,

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<v Speaker 3>who's going to travel the world and their other option

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<v Speaker 3>is a cop, you should just have them become a cop.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we need more poetry and police work.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I agree, Yeah, but I don't know. His poems

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<v Speaker 5>were intense.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyway, Well, first of all, this is the first

0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:44.280
<v Speaker 3>time hearing that you took another lover before you met Ryan.

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<v Speaker 4>And does he know about it? Does Ryan know about it? Ryan?

0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:47.799
<v Speaker 4>Do you know about this?

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<v Speaker 5>You're like, as a good Well, I'll put it in

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<v Speaker 5>the calendar or shared calendar that the three of us share.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I want to, Yeah, I like that we share

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<v Speaker 3>a calendar, and I want to continue that. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to continue that through twenty twenty at the very least.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, just put any thoughts notes in there that you want.

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<v Speaker 3>I have thoughts and notes for all all of us,

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<v Speaker 3>all three of us.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be the leader of our calendar.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, please, thank you, mother.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you daughter. Okay, Otsco love talking to you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry that this is the way we have to

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<v Speaker 3>catch up now, I mean with our busy travel schedules.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm going to send you, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to send you guys some dates and see

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<v Speaker 3>if you couldn't want to come to Mayorca this summer.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll see what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm only going for a week this summer, but I

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<v Speaker 3>have a little fun group of comics, so maybe you

0:52:32.480 --> 0:52:33.120
<v Speaker 3>guys can come.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll send you dates.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, okayay, it sounds good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Okay, love you. Congrats on your new special.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen it yet, you guys, because they haven't

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<v Speaker 3>sent it to me, so otherwise I would be waxing

0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:45.279
<v Speaker 3>poetic about how funny it is, because I know it's

0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:48.200
<v Speaker 3>fucking funny because it's Otsco and she's ridiculous, so it's

0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:50.960
<v Speaker 3>called Father and you can watch it on Hulu Disney Plus.

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<v Speaker 5>You're incredible.

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<v Speaker 4>Good Bye, we have a great day. Bye bye. So

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<v Speaker 4>I added a couple of new dates.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not on tour yet, but I added a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of dates just because I felt like we need a

0:53:02.760 --> 0:53:04.439
<v Speaker 3>little bit more laughter and a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>More medicine for the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was wrapping things up, but I thought, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>let me do a couple more. So I'm adding three

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<v Speaker 3>more dates in addition to my Vegas residency. I'm doing

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<v Speaker 3>Westhampton Beach August twenty first, I'm headlining the Rochester Fringe

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<v Speaker 3>Comedy Festival September thirteenth, and I will be in Napa

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<v Speaker 3>on October third, So those will be my last.

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<v Speaker 4>Dates of the year.

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