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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, everybody,

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Speaker 1: It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire, Wednesday, December six, Oh boy,

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Speaker 1: do we have a special show today in store. Thank

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Speaker 1: you as always for listening to the podcast. Subscribe, rate

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Speaker 1: and review as you read in the right up. Uh.

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Speaker 1: World renowned actor do TV. He's done movies, he's written movies.

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Speaker 1: Uh and I fortunately got to know him about fifteen

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Speaker 1: years ago. In another life of Mine, Jerry O'Connell stops by.

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Speaker 1: We will get to an interview with him. He Uh,

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Speaker 1: he lives in a really ritzy area out here in

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Speaker 1: took some time out of his day to uh interview

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Speaker 1: and talk to me. And I think you guys will

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Speaker 1: really enjoy it. Um. But before we get to Jerry O'Connell,

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Speaker 1: I absolutely have to start with the big sports news

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Speaker 1: from Tuesday. Janice signing the super Max as predicted on

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Speaker 1: this very podcast last month, No doubt about it. Janice

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Speaker 1: inking the largest NBA contract in the history of basketball,

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Speaker 1: five years, two and twenty eight million dollars super Max. Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's a great story. Man. Kid didn't start playing basketball

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Speaker 1: till he was thirteen years old in Greece, and he

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Speaker 1: contract in NBA history. It's a rags to richest story.

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Speaker 1: You gotta love it. Um. You know, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: sit here in debate whether or not Yanna should have

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Speaker 1: been the m v P last year. Obviously, you guys

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Speaker 1: know listeners to this podcast. For me, it was Lebron,

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Speaker 1: thirty five year old, doing the things he did. I

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Speaker 1: in Greece in the off season, the Trunk Catered off season,

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Speaker 1: Janna said Lebron is the best player in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: I'll let that go. Um. So I guess the real

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Speaker 1: big story here is is Jhanna's signing the super Max

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Speaker 1: and Milwaukee good for the NBA. Are bad? And you

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Speaker 1: had a lot of people trumpeting it. Yeah, Yanna's just

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Speaker 1: staying in small market Milwaukee. Yes, what a victory for

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Speaker 1: the NBA, and I on some level, yes, I would

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Speaker 1: agree with that. But I think the big picture story

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Speaker 1: is it's not great for the league because what has

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Speaker 1: fueled the NBA's rise over the last decade, maybe twelve years.

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Speaker 1: It has been the what if sports league? Well, what

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Speaker 1: if this superstar goes to another team and forms the

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Speaker 1: super team? And that's been what has really driven the

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Speaker 1: rise of the NBA. Here the potential for stars leaving.

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Speaker 1: And it's not even just the potential, the fact that

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Speaker 1: a lot of this happened and came true. I mean, folks,

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Speaker 1: look at top ten, top fifteen players in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: How many have changed teams in the last ten twelve years.

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Speaker 1: Lebron Cleveland, Miami, Cleveland Lakers, Kauai Spurs, Raptors, Clippers, Anthony Davis, Pelicans, Lakers,

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Speaker 1: down the list. These are all elite players in the

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Speaker 1: league and what have they done. They've all jumped around

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Speaker 1: to form super teams. Now Chris Paul obviously in okay

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Speaker 1: See was not a super team. Um Russell Westbrook now

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Speaker 1: moving teams is a shot of life into the league

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Speaker 1: and Janice coming off the table. Staying in Milwaukee removes

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Speaker 1: that potential. What are we left with the games? Folks?

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Speaker 1: The games ain't that interest. That's the big secret in

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Speaker 1: especially seventy two games this regular season. It's just it's

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Speaker 1: tough to get excited about the NBA in February. Now, myself,

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Speaker 1: as a gambler, I can find an edge. I like

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Speaker 1: making money. I will gamble on NBA games. I'm doing

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Speaker 1: my first fantasy basketball league with my son. Ever this year,

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Speaker 1: the super Max. Um these guys signed a super Max

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Speaker 1: Bucks are the best team in the East. They might

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Speaker 1: get to our interview with the Man, the myth, the legend,

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Speaker 1: Jerry O'Connell. Jason likes to think he knows everything when

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Speaker 1: He's a legend in the movie industry. Dude, this guy

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Speaker 1: to a supermodel. Jerry O'Connell, I mean, goodness, gracious, I

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Speaker 1: Those who may or may not know Jason had a

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Speaker 1: big time Knicks fan. I'm sure you go to a

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Speaker 1: lot of Knicks games. The franchise has been dogshit for

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Speaker 1: about two decades. It's been really tough. Let me let

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Speaker 1: me just tell you. I am forty six years old.

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Speaker 1: So um. I went to college also in New York.

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Speaker 1: I went to New York University and shoutout Violets, and

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Speaker 1: I went to a lot of Nick games in college.

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Speaker 1: And this was when they were good. Is when they

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Speaker 1: went to the finals and uh um they lost in

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Speaker 1: game seven. I went to um San Antonio with my

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Speaker 1: brother or game something like two, game two in the

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Speaker 1: old al About Dome when the Spurs played in the

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Speaker 1: Alamo Dome. That was latrell S free Well, huge Anthony

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Speaker 1: Mason fan. I watched that Ron Arquest documentary. Everyone should

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Speaker 1: watch it. It's amazing. Um. So I I really I,

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Speaker 1: I really hold the Knicks in very high high regard,

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Speaker 1: and it's been really tough. I am very good friends

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Speaker 1: with Michael Rappaport, who I talked to a lot about

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Speaker 1: Nick's another I'm sorry to drop just celebrity friends. I

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Speaker 1: swear I have other friends. But Jerry Ferreira of Entourage

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Speaker 1: Fame is a huge Knicks fan, and we're on sort

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Speaker 1: of a text chain with each other. They have some

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Speaker 1: theories about why the Knicks aren't good. Um, they think

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Speaker 1: it has uh something to do with James Dolan. I

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Speaker 1: had something to do with the higher ups in the organization,

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Speaker 1: maybe the highest up in the organization. I I don't.

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Speaker 1: I think. I just think it's been a real like

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Speaker 1: string of just like terrible luck, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just think it's been a string of just really

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Speaker 1: bad luck. And I don't know, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: to say. It doesn't look like it's gonna get better

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Speaker 1: anytime soon, so let me get let me get this straight.

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Speaker 1: You're a Jets fan, You're a Knicks fan. Do you

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Speaker 1: have any l A team allegiances you're out here? I do. Um,

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Speaker 1: I am weirdly a Chargers fan. Um, I'm a Charger

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Speaker 1: sand listen. I moved out to l A. I got

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Speaker 1: a touch of money in my pocket because I didn't

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Speaker 1: blow it all againbling you degenerate. Um, I moved to

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Speaker 1: l A. I was a Jets fan. Uh. The Churchers

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Speaker 1: were not the most popular team in southern California. I

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Speaker 1: got season tickets. I've never been a season ticket holder

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Speaker 1: to anything. And that was the real Ladanian Tomlinson. I

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Speaker 1: don't call him elty because my because, my because, because

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Speaker 1: my buddy already laying gets mad. If I call it

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Speaker 1: Damian Thomlinson's healthy right? Um I uh, I became a

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Speaker 1: Church fan and that was Philip Rivers, LaDainian Tomlinson, Shawn Raiman.

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Speaker 1: Um it was. It was a really fun team to watch.

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Speaker 1: They lost to the Patriots in that terrible uh come

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Speaker 1: from behind game? Uh where um the Chargers lost. But man,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you from a fantasy standpoint that Justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: is so fun to watch. I mean, I even I

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Speaker 1: even had Killen Blange given me twenty points a week.

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Speaker 1: It was like, I cannot wait two if I do

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Speaker 1: play Fantasy next season, if I continue to yell at

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Speaker 1: my children when they try and cuddle with me, I, um,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to draft Keenan Allen and uh um

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Speaker 1: and Justin Herbert. Uh. I'm not sure Austin Ekeler is

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Speaker 1: gonna have a good year. He looks like he's been

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Speaker 1: a little bit off. But um, they are. They are

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Speaker 1: really fun. Oh man, I wanted to tell you why

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Speaker 1: I don't gamble anymore. All right, I'll go for it.

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Speaker 1: I just graduated university and we all went to Las

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Speaker 1: Vegas and a group of us from like it was

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Speaker 1: a from high school and college. A group of us

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Speaker 1: all met up in Vegas and we went out there

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Speaker 1: and look, I'm happily married. Now that's that. It's over.

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Speaker 1: But there was a girl who I really liked, who

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Speaker 1: I went to high school with, who was like a

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Speaker 1: year older than me. You could you understand like that,

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Speaker 1: like it was like an unattainable crush. Um, but you

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Speaker 1: were hold of hold on, were you famous in high school?

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Speaker 1: Let me just try to put this in prest No,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't. I mean, I don't know. I wasn't famous.

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Speaker 1: I was in stand By Me, But I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: being the husky kid in stand By Me really like

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Speaker 1: get some pulls them in, you know what I'm saying. But, um,

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Speaker 1: there was a girl who was a year older than me.

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Speaker 1: And anybody listening to this who had a crush on

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Speaker 1: a girl who was unattainable had a crush on someone

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Speaker 1: who was unattainable, Um knows exactly what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: And h we all met Vegas and she was there

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Speaker 1: and the Yankees were in the World Series. It was

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Speaker 1: the nineties, and I bet the Yankees to win with

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Speaker 1: the over. It was a baseball parlay, okay, And I

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Speaker 1: had taken money out of the bank and I put

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Speaker 1: it all on this because I was sure that it

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Speaker 1: was going to be a high scoring game. And of

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Speaker 1: course much like um that's safety that happened in the

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Speaker 1: hum oh no no, I bet the Yankees were the under.

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Speaker 1: And then something occurred like that safety in the in

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Speaker 1: the Browns uh uh Brown's um Ravens game, something happened

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Speaker 1: in the last second where like a like like a

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Speaker 1: run scored and I lost my money and five figures,

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Speaker 1: six figures, so whatever I can get out of my

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Speaker 1: big banker chiever for twenty four hours, three bucks. Listen

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Speaker 1: at the time, that's like that was comet that you

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Speaker 1: got that Hollywood money, Jerry, I had. I just blew

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Speaker 1: my cash. That was it. And um, I was with

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Speaker 1: that girl like all weekend, like she was there, and

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Speaker 1: it put me in such a funk. I could not

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Speaker 1: stop thinking about losing that bet. And I just like

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Speaker 1: I got drunk the whole weekend and I cycled, Jason,

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Speaker 1: I cycled like I couldn't get out of that cycle. Now,

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Speaker 1: looking back, I should have just concentrated on the girl

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Speaker 1: who was my crush and not bet the Yankees and

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Speaker 1: the under um. And that's where gambling sort of like

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Speaker 1: isn't like fun Jason. I'm sorry now you're I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you if you're not good, it's not fun. Now

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Speaker 1: I'm kidding. Gamble is tough, man, It's a labor of love.

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Speaker 1: You gotta put in a lot of time, sadly spending

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Speaker 1: seven days a week on this crap for NFL season. Um,

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Speaker 1: here's a non sports question for you, Jerry. I love

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Speaker 1: the show Billions, and I think the first time I

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Speaker 1: saw you appear on screen, me and the wife are watching.

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Speaker 1: We're like, oh my gosh, it's Jerry O'Connell. What the hell.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know you were gonna be on the show,

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Speaker 1: so that I had to, of course feel like a

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Speaker 1: cool guy text you instantly, Oh my gosh, God, great

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Speaker 1: job on Billions. I'm sure you've got a million people

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Speaker 1: doing this. Um, how did that come about? Because that

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Speaker 1: shows kicks asked men. That's the best show on TV?

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Speaker 1: You know, Um, how did it come about? They called

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Speaker 1: my agents? I mean, look, I mean I've been really

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Speaker 1: fortunate because I've had storylines with Paul Giamati and storylines

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Speaker 1: with with Damian Lewis. And it's funny when you're a

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Speaker 1: guest star, which I am in Billions, you just sort

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Speaker 1: of come in. You don't want to like getting anybody's way.

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Speaker 1: You do your job, You help the stars out, you know,

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Speaker 1: as as much as you can there. It's just so

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Speaker 1: cool to watch Gumanti and Damian Lewis like work and

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Speaker 1: like what their processes. And I mean, I just you know,

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Speaker 1: I had a scene where Paul Giamati's character, who was

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Speaker 1: a prosecutor in the early episodes, um comes into an office.

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Speaker 1: I'm waiting there and he has about like a five

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Speaker 1: minute speech about what he's going to charge my my

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Speaker 1: my character with him and what my choices are. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, Paul Giamati, a lot of times when you

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Speaker 1: work with people who have that amount of dialogue, like

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Speaker 1: take time to rehearse, need to memorize, that need a

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Speaker 1: few takes. Paul Giamatti came in, did it, they said cut?

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Speaker 1: He said okay, let's go again. Came in, did it different,

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Speaker 1: but said all the lines the same way, said cut,

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Speaker 1: do you need another one? Just like bank, just like

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Speaker 1: like in a Samurai came in and just was like

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Speaker 1: bow bow like an assassin, just like came in and

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Speaker 1: just boom boom boom. And it's just I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: just uh, it's just playing with greatness. You know, It's

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Speaker 1: just it's just watching greatness. You know. Let me final question,

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Speaker 1: I forgot about this. Who who was the last famous

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Speaker 1: neighbor you saw out there? And do you ever talk

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Speaker 1: sports with like Bieber or Keyshawn Johnson or any of

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Speaker 1: those guys. I see William McGinnis all the time, the

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Speaker 1: great McGinnis Patriots guy. Gross as a Jets fan, can't

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Speaker 1: stand that guy. Nice general, he's he's he's a long

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Speaker 1: beach guy, super cool. There's a great job in the

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Speaker 1: NFL network. He's great. I see William mcginnish and up

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Speaker 1: the street. Um, Eric Dickerson, Yeah, no, that's a nice guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Eric Dickerson is like such a nice character,

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Speaker 1: by the way, good person. Speaking of wagering, it's not wagering. Um.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of craziness in sports. Um, That SMU book is

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Speaker 1: great a payroll to meet. Highly suggested about Craig James

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Speaker 1: and Eric Dickerson about about s m U in the eighties.

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Speaker 1: Crazy book. Really interesting, book recommendations from Jerry O'Connor. All right, Jerry,

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Speaker 1: thanks a lot for the time man. Happy holidays to

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Speaker 1: you in the family and I'm sure i'll see you

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Speaker 1: out here in l A soon. I love