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<v Speaker 1>them on the podcast. Hey Daniel, I've noticed something pretty

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<v Speaker 1>strange about how time works. Oh yeah, you have time

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<v Speaker 1>to make your own theory of time. Well that's the thing, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed that time seems to speed up as you

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<v Speaker 1>get closer to a deadline. That's true. Deadlines seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be infinitely far in the future, until all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden there on top of you. Right. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing that can explain it is that time itself

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<v Speaker 1>bends when it's closed to some procrastination. Well, time does

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<v Speaker 1>slow down near a massive object, like a black hole.

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe I just need less massive deadlines maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe your two do list is so dense it's

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<v Speaker 1>becoming a black hole. Definitely sucks you in. Hi am Jorge.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a cartoonist and the creator of PhD comics. Hi

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Daniel. I'm a particle physicist and a professor you

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<v Speaker 1>see Irvine, and I'm just part of Jorges to do list.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds kind of inappropriate, Daniel, I mean I have

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<v Speaker 1>to be like Daniel, or have to be Daniel. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that I just contribute elements to your to do list. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I see you add to my things to do. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on your to do list. But anyways, welcome to our

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<v Speaker 1>podcast Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe, a production of

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<v Speaker 1>My Heart Radio, in which our to do list is

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<v Speaker 1>to explain the entire universe bit by bit, concept by concept,

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<v Speaker 1>puzzle by puzzle to you, our wonderful listeners who deeply

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<v Speaker 1>and desperately want to understand the nature of the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>We find ourselves in the whole project of physics, starting

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<v Speaker 1>with ancient man looking up at the sky and extending

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<v Speaker 1>to the Greeks trying to understand the nature of reality.

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<v Speaker 1>Ends here on the podcast when we try to break

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<v Speaker 1>down on the nature of the universe and explain all

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<v Speaker 1>of it to you and hopefully a timely matter, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, time is money and money is gravity.

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<v Speaker 1>Money is dough and everybody needs it. Yeah, sometimes we

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<v Speaker 1>eat too much dough. But yeah, it is a big,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful universe and we like to talk about all the

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<v Speaker 1>things in it, even time itself, because time is part

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe. Right. Time is part of the universe

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<v Speaker 1>that we don't understand. Is it a fundamental element of

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<v Speaker 1>the universe? Is it something that bubbles up and just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of appears from other fundamental things like ice cream

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<v Speaker 1>and lava and hurricanes? Or is it really deeply ingrained?

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<v Speaker 1>And on this podcast we don't shy away from asking

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<v Speaker 1>those really big, deep and difficult to grapple with questions,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like what is time anyway? How do you

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<v Speaker 1>even define it? How do you even ask crisp and

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<v Speaker 1>precise questions about this slipperyst but most essential of concepts. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because time always seems to slip by you no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do, and asking these questions, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just in ourder to do list, but it's also in

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<v Speaker 1>our want to do list, right, Daniel, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what you're getting, kid. That is what I

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<v Speaker 1>get paid for, not on a day to day basis,

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<v Speaker 1>and mostly I'm cracking open particles at the large age

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<v Speaker 1>on collider, But these are the big goals of physics,

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<v Speaker 1>is to understand the nature of our experience. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>some people think physics is sort of like abstract and

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<v Speaker 1>separated from humanity. But it's taken me a long time

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<v Speaker 1>to realize that it's the most human of sciences because

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<v Speaker 1>it asked these questions to the very core of the

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<v Speaker 1>context of what it's like to be alive. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you notice things slipping into the past through this weird

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<v Speaker 1>instantaneous slice called the present. It's definitely something we'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to understand. Are you saying, physics out humanities? The humanities?

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel out philosophies the philosophers. Yeah, you know, I used

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<v Speaker 1>to think that physics was the most interesting science because

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<v Speaker 1>it was probably the most fundamental, the most universal, that

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<v Speaker 1>somehow it escaped humanity, that if aliens came, they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be interested in our biological advances because they wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>relevant to them, but they would be interested in what

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<v Speaker 1>we've learned about physics. I'm not so sure about that anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And can hear all those mathematicians out they're laughing at

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<v Speaker 1>you right now. You're like, you're pure, We're the purest,

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<v Speaker 1>even mathematicians. Man, Mathematics is just codification of the logic

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<v Speaker 1>and human brains. And I suspect that aliens might not

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<v Speaker 1>even do math, and if they do, we might not

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<v Speaker 1>even recognize it. Oh man, you're saying physics supersedes math

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<v Speaker 1>from a human point of view. Oh boy, we just

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<v Speaker 1>started in an academic warrior. You just did that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that everything

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<v Speaker 1>we do is based in human thought and contextualized by

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<v Speaker 1>human questions. But that doesn't make it worthless. It means

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<v Speaker 1>that we get to ask really interesting questions about what

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<v Speaker 1>it's like to be alive. Yeah, and so sometimes those

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<v Speaker 1>questions get into the idea of time itself, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe most people have a conception of the university's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of existing outside of time, or like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>universe moving through time, but actually physicists think of time

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<v Speaker 1>as part of the universe, right, it's like another thing

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<v Speaker 1>in it. Yeah, we don't really understand. Physicists like to

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<v Speaker 1>divide elements of the universe into things that are fundamental,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning they're like basic, they're essential, they have to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>They define what the universe is, and then other things

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<v Speaker 1>that are emergent that sort of come out of the

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<v Speaker 1>interplay of those fundamental objects. And we don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>time is fundamental, if it's like absolutely essential it's part

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<v Speaker 1>of the nature of the universe, or if it bubbles

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<v Speaker 1>up from something else. We don't know if space and

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<v Speaker 1>matter sort of sit in a framework of time which

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<v Speaker 1>is external to them, or if the whole thing is

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, comes up from some other weird, deep nature.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't even imagined, like, is it hard coded into

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<v Speaker 1>the circuitry of the universe or is it like a

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<v Speaker 1>program running on top of the chip of the universe

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what you mean, right, Or is it

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<v Speaker 1>just the way the humans think, you know? It might

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<v Speaker 1>be that our tendency to think in terms of stories

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<v Speaker 1>and narratives which have cause and effect, might bias us

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<v Speaker 1>to see things as flowing forwards in time, when in

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<v Speaker 1>reality the truth might be much more complex. We just

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<v Speaker 1>an episode about how causality, cause and effect might not

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<v Speaker 1>even be an essential element of the universe, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it might be that time itself could be something that's

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of very human. Yeah, it's sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast. We have no narrative, right, We are just

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<v Speaker 1>jumping around in time to whatever comes into our minds here.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's these kind of basic questions that give us

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<v Speaker 1>a launching off point for asking questions and doing studies

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to like find a way to grapple with

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<v Speaker 1>these things scientifically, because we could sit here and smoke

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<v Speaker 1>man in appeals and talk about the nuture of time

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<v Speaker 1>forever without making progress. But we want to do experiments.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to use science to add to our body

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<v Speaker 1>of actual knowledge about time. Yeah, so we'll be exploring

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about this weird concept of time and

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<v Speaker 1>especially about how time behaves according to our theories about

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<v Speaker 1>the universe. So today on the podcast, we'll be asking

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<v Speaker 1>the question why does gravity slow down time? Or should

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<v Speaker 1>I should I ask it slow down time? Or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you should use your gravest voice, you know, your James

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<v Speaker 1>Earl Jones voice. You're trying to make a gravity joke.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of heavy, man, don't make light of the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a massive fan of that movie. You know. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this question kind has two components to it, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>just said, it has gravity and time in it. And

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<v Speaker 1>because we know from physics that somehow gravity affects time

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<v Speaker 1>or is related to time, because in the time can

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<v Speaker 1>be affected. It's not like some sort of absolute thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. We do not have like a single clock

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<v Speaker 1>for the universe. The simplest model of how time works

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<v Speaker 1>might be imagining that the universe all over the place

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<v Speaker 1>is in one state. You know, particles are going in

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<v Speaker 1>some direction or they're in some location, and then things

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<v Speaker 1>sort of tick forwards and everything takes a step forward

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<v Speaker 1>in unison and in that picture, the whole universe has

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<v Speaker 1>like a single clock. But we've learned over the last

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<v Speaker 1>time of years that that conception of time is not valid.

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<v Speaker 1>That time flows differently in different parts of the universe,

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<v Speaker 1>and differently four different observers and moving at different speeds.

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<v Speaker 1>So time is much weirder, more local, and less universal

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<v Speaker 1>than we ever imagined. In addition, it's also weirdly bent

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<v Speaker 1>by heavy objects. Yeah, things that are really heavy, like

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<v Speaker 1>black holes or even just our planet. They have gravity,

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<v Speaker 1>and that somehow makes time slowed down. Now, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>that's a pretty weird concept. Bread. I guess that was

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<v Speaker 1>in that movie Interstellar. It was exactly in that movie Interstellar.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time they visited a really heavy planet or came

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<v Speaker 1>near a black hole. When they left, they found that

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the universe had experienced a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>time than they have. And so I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people are maybe familiar with this part of relativity,

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<v Speaker 1>where like, if you're moving past, time slows down. But

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<v Speaker 1>also it also happens when you're near a heavy object.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. These are two completely separate effects with different

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<v Speaker 1>sources and importantly different mechanisms and different consequences. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>as usually when we were wondering how many people out

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<v Speaker 1>there even knew that gravity slowed down time or much less,

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<v Speaker 1>I have thought about why it slows down time. So

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel went out there into the internet to ask people

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<v Speaker 1>why does gravity slow down time? I like the way

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<v Speaker 1>you say I went out there into the internet. It

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<v Speaker 1>makes me feel like I got sucked into my computer

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<v Speaker 1>and went and visited these people like tron like the

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<v Speaker 1>m eighties movie plotline and you got, you know, salkt

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<v Speaker 1>into your CRT monitor. Yeah, I'm writing those tron cycles

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<v Speaker 1>around the Internet, gathering information from our lisitors, dodging calls

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<v Speaker 1>and tweeting left and right. But if you out there

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<v Speaker 1>would like me to beat myself into your inbox with

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<v Speaker 1>crazy questions about the nature of the universe so you

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<v Speaker 1>can hear yourself speculate about them on the podcast, Please

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<v Speaker 1>don't be shy. Right to me two questions at Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>and Jorge dot com. Yeah, and you actually answer every email, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I do answer every email with every question from everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>You take the time. It slows me down, but I

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<v Speaker 1>love it all. Right. Well, here's what people had to say. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>gravity is basically the same as acceleration, and when you're accelerating,

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<v Speaker 1>the speed of light stays the same for everybody, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it must be time that's slowing down. And when

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<v Speaker 1>we're going at our normal speeds, you don't really notice it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So gravity being equivalent to acceleration causes the same effect.

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<v Speaker 1>Gravity slows down time because as particles with mass moved

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<v Speaker 1>through the Higgs field, they're slowed down. The stronger the

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<v Speaker 1>Higgs field, the gravity is the sole of the quarks

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<v Speaker 1>and leptons move, causing quantum interactions to take place at

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<v Speaker 1>a different rate depending on the strength of the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Scaled up into the macro world, that's what we experienced

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<v Speaker 1>this time. We would never notice if our particles were

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<v Speaker 1>moving at a faster slower speed, if everything we observed

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<v Speaker 1>was experiencing the same Higgs field along with us. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that the reason it's because of gravity bench down

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<v Speaker 1>of pace time and thinks the length of space faith

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<v Speaker 1>changes in order for the speed of life we're being constant.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the time of flowing differently. First of all, time

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<v Speaker 1>is like space dimensions, so the gravity can affect time.

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<v Speaker 1>But how I'm thinking right now, like the gravity does

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<v Speaker 1>to also the objects that contracts them. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm thinking, That it contracts time. It squeezes it

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<v Speaker 1>like the space and doing this it is slowing it down.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess gravity could slow down time because gravity makes

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<v Speaker 1>those wells and like the space time fabric, and so

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<v Speaker 1>as that material of the universe gets stretched out, the

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<v Speaker 1>time would slow down as it gets deeper, sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like if you're driving over hills versus driving over flat things.

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<v Speaker 1>I can only imagine it's got something to do with

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<v Speaker 1>space time. Like gravity isn't just a force, but as

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<v Speaker 1>Einstein says, it's a warping of space time. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a ton of gravity staying a black hole,

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<v Speaker 1>warping space space is not really a thing, but space

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<v Speaker 1>time is a thing. So you can't affect one without

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<v Speaker 1>affecting the other, is what I'm guessing. I know time

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<v Speaker 1>moves slower relatively speaking for someone that travels faster, So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe gravity slows town time because it also necessarily makes

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<v Speaker 1>an objectile person move faster. All right, some pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>answers here. A lot of people sort of knew that

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<v Speaker 1>time can slow down, and I guess they assume that

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<v Speaker 1>gravity is someone related to really activity and moving fast

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<v Speaker 1>and so why not. Yeah, a lot of really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>and insightful and thoughtful questions here, some confusion about the

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<v Speaker 1>role of the Higgs field, but also a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>good concepts about the connections between space and time and

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<v Speaker 1>how masses have to bend both of them. All right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into this idea of time slowing down, and

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<v Speaker 1>I guess let's recap maybe the one people are most

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with, maybe, which is the one that when you're

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<v Speaker 1>moving fast and especially close to the speed of light,

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<v Speaker 1>time slows down for you. So maybe walk us through that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll get into the one about gravitation. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>So the one you're probably more familiar with. We call

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<v Speaker 1>velocity time dilation. This is something that happens in special relativity.

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<v Speaker 1>And to think about this, you should imagine an empty universe,

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<v Speaker 1>one without really massive objects that are gonna make space

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<v Speaker 1>curvy and all sorts of weird stuff. In this universe,

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<v Speaker 1>light travels in straight lines, and spaceships zoom around and

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. Dilation just comes from the relative velocity

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<v Speaker 1>of objects. And the most important thing to remember is

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<v Speaker 1>that movie clocks run slowly, so people often make the

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<v Speaker 1>mistake of saying, oh, I'm going fast in a spaceship,

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<v Speaker 1>so my time should slow down, right, Well, it's only

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<v Speaker 1>moving clocks that slow down. So if you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>spaceship and you're holding the clock, then the clock is

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<v Speaker 1>not moving relative to you, so you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>see it slow down. So you never experience velocity time

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<v Speaker 1>dilation because you're never moving a relative to yourself. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else out there on a planet that you're zipping by

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<v Speaker 1>could see your clock running slowly because your clock is

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<v Speaker 1>moving for them, and so moving clocks run slowly, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>that your clock would run slow. You don't experience it,

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<v Speaker 1>but they see your clock moving slowly. Right, Like, if

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<v Speaker 1>your time is moving slowly, you don't notice it because

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<v Speaker 1>you know your brain is also sort of moving slowly

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<v Speaker 1>in a way, right, So like everything about you is

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<v Speaker 1>moving slowly as well, and so you don't notice that

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<v Speaker 1>you're actually moving slowly. But even that suggested some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like universal picture of what really happened. And in

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<v Speaker 1>the universal picture, it makes sense for you to feel

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<v Speaker 1>like time move normally even though it actually moved slowly.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is no like what actually happened. Some observers

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<v Speaker 1>seeing you go by the planet at the speed of light.

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<v Speaker 1>They see your time as moving slowly. You see your

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<v Speaker 1>time as moving normally. You can try to unify those

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<v Speaker 1>into one picture of what actually happened, but there is

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<v Speaker 1>no what actually happened. There's just what different observers observe,

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<v Speaker 1>and what you see depends on where you are and

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<v Speaker 1>how fast things are moving relative to you. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're on the space ship and you're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the clock on Earth, you see Earth moving past you

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<v Speaker 1>at high speed, and so you see Earth clock running slowly.

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<v Speaker 1>So Earth sees your clock running slow. You see Earth

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<v Speaker 1>clock running slow. What actually happened, Well, both of those

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<v Speaker 1>things happened. Is just what happened depends on where you are.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess maybe stem me through it. So I'm here

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<v Speaker 1>on Earth, I'm watching you on a spaceship go by

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<v Speaker 1>the speed of light, Like, what does it mean for

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<v Speaker 1>me to see your time slow down? Like? I see

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<v Speaker 1>your the clock inside of your spaceship take but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not taking as fast as my clock exactly. So you

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<v Speaker 1>get a telescope. It's super powerful. So you can look

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<v Speaker 1>at a clock that's inside my ship and you watch

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<v Speaker 1>it and you see it's ticks going and you compare

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<v Speaker 1>it to a clock that's right in your hand, not

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<v Speaker 1>moving relative to you. And so every time my clock

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<v Speaker 1>ticks on the spaceship, you see the clock in your

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<v Speaker 1>lap taking ten times. So time is moving faster for

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<v Speaker 1>you in your lap. Then you see it moving for

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<v Speaker 1>me on this ship. And this, of course already takes

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<v Speaker 1>to an account the fact that it takes light time

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<v Speaker 1>to get to you to the telescope from the ship.

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<v Speaker 1>We sort of factor that out already. So what does

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<v Speaker 1>it mean. So I have a telescope and I'm pointing

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<v Speaker 1>it at you, but you're zooming by, so I have

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of track. You have to move my telescope,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I track you as you're going by, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm moving my telescope and I'm measuring your ticks and

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<v Speaker 1>they're not taking as fast as my clock. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>You see my clock as running slowly. So you see

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<v Speaker 1>me aging slowly, You see me moving slowly. You see

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<v Speaker 1>me like waving back to you in super slow motion.

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<v Speaker 1>So you see my clock is running slow relative to

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<v Speaker 1>your clock. And that's the sort of a consequence of

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<v Speaker 1>just how the universe is or or to the somehow

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<v Speaker 1>the limitations of the speed of light. Yeah, it's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>You can start from lots of different places to derive this.

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<v Speaker 1>You can say like, well, we've seen that nothing can

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<v Speaker 1>move faster than the speed of light. That's a hard

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<v Speaker 1>limit on the speed of information. And from that you

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<v Speaker 1>can derive these things, these time dilation effects, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can walk yourself through an example. We actually have it

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<v Speaker 1>worked out in detail in our book We have No Idea,

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<v Speaker 1>a Guide to the Unknown Universe. And you can think

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<v Speaker 1>about how a photon clock would tick in a spaceship

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<v Speaker 1>as it moves up and down, and if it's moving

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<v Speaker 1>really fast and it has to go like a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit diagonal for example, And because light can't move faster

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<v Speaker 1>than the speed of light, when it moves on a diagonal,

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<v Speaker 1>it takes longer to get from one side of the

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<v Speaker 1>clock to the other. So it's basically the constancy of

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<v Speaker 1>the speed of light and the fact that nothing, even

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<v Speaker 1>light can move faster than the speed of light directly

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<v Speaker 1>lead to this consequence. The time goes slower for moving

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<v Speaker 1>clock right. And so there's this sort of famous scenario

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<v Speaker 1>called the twin paradox for the twin experiment where like

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<v Speaker 1>you take a pair of twins here on Earth, and

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<v Speaker 1>you put one of them in a spaceship that goes

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<v Speaker 1>out into space at the speed of light and then

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<v Speaker 1>comes back, and supposedly when they come back there are

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<v Speaker 1>a different age than the one that stayed on Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a wonderful paradox because it gets to the

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<v Speaker 1>heart of like what actually happened. Because in the example

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about, it feels awfully symmetric, right like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at you through my telescope and I'm seeing your

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<v Speaker 1>clock take slowly. But maybe on the ship you're also

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<v Speaker 1>looking at me on Earth and you see my clock

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<v Speaker 1>taking slowly. So you want to feel like, well, what

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<v Speaker 1>actually happens? And the way to bring that to a

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<v Speaker 1>point is to like bring those two people back together.

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<v Speaker 1>So if one twin goes off on their spaceship twin

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<v Speaker 1>on Earth sees the spaceship twin aging slowly, and the

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<v Speaker 1>spaceship twin sees the Earth twin aging slowly, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you want to feel like, well, which one is actually younger?

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<v Speaker 1>And so you turn the spaceship twin around bring it

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<v Speaker 1>back to Earth, and you ask like, well, which and

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<v Speaker 1>is younger? And what you discover is that the spaceship

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<v Speaker 1>twin is younger, and so that sort of breaks this symmetry.

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<v Speaker 1>And you wonder, like, hold on a second, if this

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<v Speaker 1>is supposed to be symmetric, if it just depends on

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<v Speaker 1>relative velocities, why is it that one of them is

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<v Speaker 1>now younger than the other. So that means it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just like a perception thing, it's like time actually slowed

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<v Speaker 1>down for the space twin. In that case, it is

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<v Speaker 1>because they've broken special relativity. One of the rules of

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<v Speaker 1>special relativity is no acceleration. You can fly at high

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<v Speaker 1>velocity and then you can make all these measurements and

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<v Speaker 1>do these calculations, and things are just as we described.

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<v Speaker 1>But as soon as you accelerate, then you're out of

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<v Speaker 1>the bounds of special relativity. It's something you can do.

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<v Speaker 1>We can you can do it, we can calculate it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it makes things more complicated, and the simple rules

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<v Speaker 1>we described earlier of moving clocks run slow get much

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<v Speaker 1>more tricky. So here, for example, when the spaceship twin

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<v Speaker 1>turns around to come back to Earth so that he

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<v Speaker 1>or she can compare her age with her twin, then

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<v Speaker 1>she's accelerating because changing your direction means accelerating, And what

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<v Speaker 1>happens when you accelerate is you break the symmetry. Now

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<v Speaker 1>one of the twins is accelerating, the other one is not,

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<v Speaker 1>And when you accelerate, weird things happen to time. Specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>when the twin in the spaceship turns around and accelerates,

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<v Speaker 1>time jumps forward for the rest of the universe. So

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<v Speaker 1>time runs a little slower for the accelerating twin jumping

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<v Speaker 1>forward for the rest of the universe, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>the twin in the spaceship now is younger when they

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<v Speaker 1>arrive at Earth than the twin that stayed home. You

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of accelerated a little too fast there for

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<v Speaker 1>my brain, I guess. One question is, but isn't acceleration

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<v Speaker 1>also relative? Like if I'm accelerating away from you, I

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<v Speaker 1>see you accelerating away from me, So why is an

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<v Speaker 1>acceleration also like kind of symmetric. And the second question

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<v Speaker 1>is you're saying it's the acceleration that causes time to

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<v Speaker 1>slow down, so that's sort of a different scenario. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>these are great questions. Acceleration is actually absolute. Velocity can

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<v Speaker 1>only be measured relative to other stuff, like if you're

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<v Speaker 1>an empty universe. You can't measure your velocity because there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to move past. Right, velocity is only defined only

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<v Speaker 1>has meaning relative to other objects. That's not true for acceleration.

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<v Speaker 1>Acceleration is something you can measure, even in an empty universe. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, put yourself in a spaceship. You're in an

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<v Speaker 1>empty universe. If you're moving, your motion has no meaning.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no experiment you can do inside your spaceship to

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<v Speaker 1>measure your actual velocity because there's nothing outside to measure

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<v Speaker 1>relative too. That's not true for acceleration. You can measure

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<v Speaker 1>inside your spaceship whether or not you're accelerating. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>you can tell do I feel a force by being

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<v Speaker 1>pressed by one side of the spaceship. You'll feel those

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<v Speaker 1>g forces if you're accelerating. So acceleration is different from velocity.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't have an absolute acceleration, you can measure it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's why the rules are different for acceleration

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<v Speaker 1>and for velocity. And so then you're saying that the

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<v Speaker 1>twin who went out into space will actually be younger

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<v Speaker 1>when they come back, they will actually be younger. Exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>So when the twin comes back to Earth and is

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<v Speaker 1>now in the same reference frame moving no velocity relative

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<v Speaker 1>to the other twin. Then you can ask real questions

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<v Speaker 1>about in this reference frame, who is younger and who

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<v Speaker 1>is older. And because the twin that went into space

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<v Speaker 1>also did some acceleration, their time slowed down a lot

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<v Speaker 1>during that acceleration, or equivalently, time for the rest of

0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 1>the universe jumped forward during that acceleration. So that breaks

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<v Speaker 1>the symmetry because only one twin accelerated, and so the

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<v Speaker 1>twins stay at home actually is older. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't just like a thought experiment. There actually are

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of twin astronauts. One of them went and

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<v Speaker 1>spent a lot of time up in space and the

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<v Speaker 1>other one didn't, and they've compared the two. Really all right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into that real life experiment and then let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about how gravity changes time. But first let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break. All right, we're asking the question why

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<v Speaker 1>does gravity slow down time? And we were talking first

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<v Speaker 1>about the twin experiment where you send a twin out

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<v Speaker 1>into space, they go really fast, they come back and

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<v Speaker 1>they've aged less. And this age and you're saying is

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<v Speaker 1>actually due to the acceleration, it's not actually due to

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<v Speaker 1>the speed. Right, there are two effects there. There's the

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<v Speaker 1>velocity time dilation, which is the one you're very familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with where moving clocks appear to be slow. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>not a universal phenomenon. It depends on who is doing

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:32.200
<v Speaker 1>the observing and their relative velocity. Acceleration, however, is different,

0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 1>and the acceleration does cause an actual slowing of time,

0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:39.960
<v Speaker 1>which could be measured by everybody because it's not symmetric,

0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 1>it's absolute. You can measure somebody's absolute acceleration and that

0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:46.800
<v Speaker 1>makes them different, so it breaks the symmetry. So really,

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:48.919
<v Speaker 1>when people say going fast slow is down time, we

0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:52.399
<v Speaker 1>really we should be saying accelerating fast causes time to slow.

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 1>And is that something that just somehow changes time or

0:24:56.520 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 1>is it because you're pushing all of the particles and

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 1>somehow that's blows how they interact, or how how do

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:05.199
<v Speaker 1>you explain exploration changing time? Well, first of all, it

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>is still correct to say that moving fast slows down time.

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>It's just that it's slows down time only for observers, right,

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 1>observers moving fast relative to those clocks. It's still true,

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 1>it still happens. It's it's not like just a perception issue.

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:20.920
<v Speaker 1>It's a true thing about the universe. Acceleration slows down

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:23.440
<v Speaker 1>time in a different way. It's a different mechanism. It's

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:25.199
<v Speaker 1>much harder to understand in terms of it means like

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:27.879
<v Speaker 1>ticks on the photon clock. But you can see it

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:30.560
<v Speaker 1>also comes as a consequence of the speed of light.

0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 1>All right, well then, so that's acceleration and time dilation

0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:37.159
<v Speaker 1>because of exceleraation and because of going close to the

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:38.920
<v Speaker 1>speed of light. But the one we're talking about today

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:42.480
<v Speaker 1>is the one due to gravity. So whenever you're next

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:47.200
<v Speaker 1>to something that's really heavy or massive, time also slows down.

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 1>But does it slow down in the same way that

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:53.240
<v Speaker 1>acceleration slows time down, or does it slow down in

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 1>the same way that going at a constant speed slows time?

0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I mean? Like is it observer

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 1>base or is it actually like time slowing down? Great question.

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 1>And so gravity slows down time where the curvature of

0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:08.199
<v Speaker 1>space slows down time, and this effect on time is

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:12.360
<v Speaker 1>the same as acceleration slowing down time. And in fact,

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 1>it's sort of a deep idea here because in general relativity,

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:19.959
<v Speaker 1>one of the whole inspirational ideas of general relativity is

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:23.360
<v Speaker 1>that gravity is equivalent to acceleration. You know, the experiment

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 1>we talked about a minute ago, like, if you were

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 1>in space, could you tell if your spaceship was accelerating,

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 1>You could, and in fact it would feel like you

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:34.400
<v Speaker 1>were being pressed against one wall of the ship, or equivalently,

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 1>it would feel like you were standing on a planet

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:40.879
<v Speaker 1>with gravity. Right, you can in fact make artificial gravity

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 1>on a spaceship by providing acceleration, either by spinning or

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:47.360
<v Speaker 1>by zooming off in one direction. So the whole idea

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 1>that gave Einstein the inspiration for general relativity was this

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 1>one is called the equivalence principle that says that there's

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:58.639
<v Speaker 1>no difference between gravity and acceleration. And so we just

0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:02.639
<v Speaker 1>went through the details of how acceleration can cause time

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.400
<v Speaker 1>to move slowly, and this is exactly the same effect.

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Gravity also makes time move slowly. The curvature of space

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>around you makes time move more slowly. It's exactly the

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:16.119
<v Speaker 1>same effect. And so it's an absolute effect, not a

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 1>relative one like for velocity. So you're saying it's really

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 1>sort of acceleration that causes time to slow down, and

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>gravity is sort of like an acceleration or is it

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 1>the other way around? But I guess you can have

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:30.200
<v Speaker 1>acceleration without gravity, So it's more like gravity is kind

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>of like an acceleration. Yeah, gravity is essentially like a

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:37.399
<v Speaker 1>geometrical interpretation of acceleration. Or you know, said another way,

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.439
<v Speaker 1>what happens when you have mass in space, Well, it

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:44.440
<v Speaker 1>changes the curvature of that space, and so what happens

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.120
<v Speaker 1>then is that things move differently and they can appear,

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 1>for example, to be accelerating. If you aren't aware of

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 1>the curvature of space, then it seems like there's a

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:57.119
<v Speaker 1>force there which provides an acceleration towards those masses. And

0:27:57.160 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>so that's really what gravity is. Gravity is the bending

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>of space in a way that appears to provide acceleration.

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:07.439
<v Speaker 1>So gravity and acceleration really are exactly the same phenomenon.

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Either acceleration in empty flat space gives exactly the same

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:14.920
<v Speaker 1>effects as curving of space itself. You remember, we did

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 1>recently a fun episode about how if you're accelerating there

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 1>are times that photons cannot catch you. You have essentially

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:26.919
<v Speaker 1>an event horizon if you're accelerating constantly, And the explanation

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 1>there was the same as here is that accelerating constantly

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:33.159
<v Speaker 1>is sort of the same as curving space. And we

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:35.640
<v Speaker 1>know that if you curve space, weird things happen, like

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.719
<v Speaker 1>you can be inside a black hole and photons cannot escape.

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>And so the core idea here is to understand that

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 1>accelerating is really the same thing as gravity, And so

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 1>if you think of gravity is causing time dilation, it's

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>really the concept of acceleration causing time dilation the sort

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 1>of mentally equivalent. There are a lot of leaps here,

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, and it's kind of hard to keep

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 1>track of because I feel like you're saying gravity is

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 1>acceleration and gravity is also the curvature of space. Does

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>that mean that all acceleration is also the curvature of space?

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Or can you have acceloration in not bend space, or like,

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 1>can you think of all acceleration even by like electromagnetic forces,

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 1>as some sort of curvature of space. Yeah, that's a

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 1>deep question, and there are people out there trying to

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>interpret all acceleration in terms of the curvature space, or

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, like all forces as being the product of

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>the curvature space. But that's not necessary. You can think

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 1>about acceleration in flat space, you know, just like put

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 1>on a rocketship, accelerate your spaceship. Now you're going fast.

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 1>But the effects of that on your time and the

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 1>way you pursue you the universe are equivalent to if

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 1>space was curved around you. So you can think of

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 1>acceleration separately from the curvature space and from gravity, but

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 1>has exactly the same effect, because that's really kind of

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>what gravity is, so meaning I feel like then that

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 1>you're saying that that it's not really gravity that slowing

0:29:56.840 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 1>down time. It's really the acceleration caused by gravity, or

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 1>the bending of space caused by gravity, which is the

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 1>same as exceleration. Yeah, there's lots of different ways to

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 1>think about it. You can think of acceleration caused by

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 1>gravity is really just like motion through curved space. And

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>one of the other impacts of curved space is that

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 1>time also slows down. All right, well, then maybe let's

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 1>try it. Let's see why does acceleration slow down time?

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Because that seems to be the bigger problem, right, that

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 1>seems to be the bigger question. Yeah, so I guess

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 1>you can say that gravity slows down time because it's

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 1>equivalent to acceleration slowing down time. Why does acceleration slow

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 1>down time? That gets back to the speed of light

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>as the limiting piece of information. You can derive this

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>in a flat universe using the twins as an example.

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit more complicated mathematically than like normal

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>special relativity, where you can do these observing frames with

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Lorentz transformations. It gets a little hairy and mathematical, but

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:55.959
<v Speaker 1>the core concept that it comes from is this maximum

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>speed of light. Everything comes out of that both time

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 1>dilation from velocity and also time dilation from acceleration, which

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 1>really is equivalent to time dilation from gravity. So I

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>guess if I'm in a spaceship and I'm accelerating the

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 1>limitations of the speed of light, which does that mean that?

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Are you sort of saying that it somehow limits how

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 1>the things can evolve inside of that spaceship, you know,

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>move from you know, information between molecules and things like that,

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 1>So things sort of evolve slower or they have a

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 1>limit to how fast they can evolve. Yeah, I would

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>say a little bit differently. I would say that requiring

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 1>that the speed of light is constant and that everybody

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>observes the speed of light always to be. The speed

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>of light restricts the kinds of universes that we can have.

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>It puts a lot of restrictions on the waste space

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 1>and time have to work in that universe. And these

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 1>effects that we're talking about, the slowing down of time

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 1>by velocity and by acceleration, are consequences of the structure

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>of that space and time the sort of come out

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>of that all, right, So you're saying it's just the

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 1>way it is saying when things accelerate, there's a limit

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 1>in the speed of light, and so that makes time

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>sort of slow down, makes everything slow down. And I

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>think it's super cool because it's not symmetric. You know,

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 1>like two people can agree on who is accelerating more,

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 1>and so that means that they can agree on whose

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 1>time is moving more slowly, or you know, said another

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 1>way in terms of gravity, like you and I can

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>agree that if you're near the black hole, then you're

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 1>in a part of space that's curved more than my

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 1>part of space, and so we can agree that your

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>time should be moving more slowly. That's not true for

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the spaceships, right, If we're in two spaceships passing each other,

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 1>it feels symmetric because it is symmetric. I say you're

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 1>moving past me, You say I'm moving past you. Everybody's right.

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 1>In the case of the black hole, we can agree

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 1>it's not symmetric, So we should agree that your time

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 1>is moving more slowly. So then a coloration causes time

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 1>to slow down. And definitely, when you're near a black hole,

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 1>you are being accelerated, probably a lot, because black holes

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 1>are very massive. They're pulling you in. And so if

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm near a black hole, then I'm going to be

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>moving slower through time than you, who is out way

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>far from the black hole exactly. And so another cool

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>thing is that I see your time moving slowly. It

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 1>means that you see my time moving more quickly. Right,

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>This is the real difference with velocity time dilation and

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>velocity time delation. We both see each other's time moving

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 1>more slowly. Here, if you're near a black hole and

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>you're looking out into the universe, you see the rest

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>of the universe running forward in time very quickly. And

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 1>as you get closer and closer to the black hole

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 1>and more and more curvature, you see the universe's clock

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 1>speeding up into the future. So then like if I'm

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 1>falling into a black hole, like all the stars will

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 1>suddenly start speeding up around me, like I'll see the

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 1>universe kind of and fast forward exactly. And some people imagine, well,

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 1>does that mean that you'll see like the end of

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the universe, the end of time. You'll know, like the

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 1>final fate of the universe just as you fall into

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the black hole. Well that would be super cool, but unfortunately,

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:56.959
<v Speaker 1>it takes a finite amount of time from your perspective

0:33:57.160 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 1>to fall into a black hole, so there isn't time

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>for all that information from the future universe to get

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>to you. So you see the fast forward universe for

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 1>a while, but you don't see like all the way

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 1>into the infinite future. Well, we talked about this last time,

0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Like when you actually get to the surface of the

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>black hole, then time actually stands still, right, Like it

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 1>slows down more the closer you get to the black hole,

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:20.720
<v Speaker 1>and then it sort of stands still at the surface.

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 1>It sort of does, but that's only for somebody far away.

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>They see your time moving slowly and they see you

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:30.880
<v Speaker 1>sort of smeared across the event horizon. But for you,

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:33.720
<v Speaker 1>you actually fall into the black hole, you don't notice

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 1>anything different changing, right, you notice the rest of the

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:39.439
<v Speaker 1>universe's clock speeding up. But from your perspective, you fall

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 1>into the black hole, you pass the event horizon, you

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>get sucked into the singularity, so your time is definitely

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>finite from your perspective. And this is not something that

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 1>we understand very well. There's all sorts of weird paradoxes

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 1>and contradictions here about how one person sees you not

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:55.320
<v Speaker 1>falling into the black hole to the end of time,

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.720
<v Speaker 1>and you see yourself actually falling in. It's not something

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>that we know how to reckon. SI. I think what

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you're saying is that the person falling in, you're saying

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>they'll see themselves falling through, But we don't actually know

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:08.280
<v Speaker 1>if that's true, right, Like they might just actually freeze

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 1>at the edge, which just don't know. Yeah, we don't

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 1>know it is true because nobody's done it and come

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 1>to report back. It's possible they actually just freeze the

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 1>edge and they think that they're inside, but it's actually

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:20.319
<v Speaker 1>that the inside of a black hole is a hologram

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 1>projected from the surface of the black hole. We just

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:25.919
<v Speaker 1>don't really know what's going on inside a black hole.

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:29.360
<v Speaker 1>And so this effect of gravity on time doesn't just

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:31.839
<v Speaker 1>happen in black holes. I mean, black hole is sort

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 1>of the extreme example, but it actually happens like every

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 1>day and everywhere, like here on Earth, the Earth is

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:40.759
<v Speaker 1>slowing down time and even like I'm slowing down time

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 1>for the things around me, right, yeah, absolutely, everywhere there

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 1>is curvature, time is slowed down and the Earth curved space, right,

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 1>because the Earth has a lot of mass. That's why,

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 1>for example, you don't fall off the Earth. You're feeling

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 1>it's gravity. So anywhere you're in a situation where you're

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:59.400
<v Speaker 1>feeling gravity, you're also having your time affected. And because

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.359
<v Speaker 1>gravity is stronger as you get closer to the Earth

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:04.840
<v Speaker 1>and weaker as you move away from it, that means

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 1>that the clocks are variable. Time flows in a variable

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:10.840
<v Speaker 1>way as a function of the distance from the center

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 1>of the Earth. And this is something you can measure,

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 1>like over your life, your feet will age one second

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:20.759
<v Speaker 1>more than your head, only if you spent a lot

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 1>of time standing up Daniel, which cartoon is don't do

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:25.879
<v Speaker 1>a lot of So I guess our feet are still young.

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:28.399
<v Speaker 1>We are still light on our feet exactly. That's why

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>you lay down all the time, just to keep your

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:32.839
<v Speaker 1>body like in sync, just to keep my feet young.

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:36.240
<v Speaker 1>All right, well, let's get into what this all means.

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Does that mean that we're all moving slower through time

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 1>than we should? And whether does that mean that also

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:46.400
<v Speaker 1>there's no universal clock actually to measure time in the universe,

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 1>So let's get into that. But first let's take another

0:36:49.160 --> 0:37:04.399
<v Speaker 1>quick break. All right, Daniel, my favorite question and all

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 1>these topics, what does it all mean? Man? So anything

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 1>with gravity bends space around it, which causes acceleration, and

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 1>accelerating things slowed down in time. So things are always

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 1>slowing down in time everywhere all the time. Yeah, everywhere

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 1>there's a gravitational field, clocks are being slowed. So if

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 1>you're in a gravitational field, then your sense of now

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:30.239
<v Speaker 1>is moving forward differently than other people who are like

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 1>out in deep space. And so if you spend a

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:35.879
<v Speaker 1>lot of time near and gravitational objects, then you are

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:38.839
<v Speaker 1>younger than you otherwise would be. Right, But it's not

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 1>just gravity too, right, It's like if I get in

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 1>my car and I accelerate up to the freeway, I

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 1>somehow slowed down time for myself. Yeah, gravity and acceleration.

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 1>They're equivalent, and so both of them will slow down time.

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Every time you accelerate, the universe sort of leaps forward

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit relative to you. If you accelerated a

0:37:57.520 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 1>lot for a long time, you would notice clocks around

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:03.359
<v Speaker 1>you seeming to move forward faster than one second per

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:05.399
<v Speaker 1>second on your clock. And so I guess that means

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 1>first of all, that there's no real age to the universe.

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Is that really true? That Does that mean that you

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 1>know there's no like absolute time? Yeah, there's no absolute time,

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:17.279
<v Speaker 1>which is really frustrating if you'd like to have a

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:20.320
<v Speaker 1>sense that you know, there's truth, that there's something really

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:23.719
<v Speaker 1>going on out there outside of our skulls. It's frustrating

0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 1>to imagine that. Like, different people can tell different stories

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:29.239
<v Speaker 1>and they can both be correct. But there's an even

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 1>deeper problem if you try to extrapolate back to time

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>equal zero. You know, we say this thing the universe

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 1>is thirteen point eight billion years old. Well, according to

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:40.920
<v Speaker 1>what clock, right, is that clock been moving on a spaceship?

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Has that clock spent a lot of time near a

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 1>black hole? Because if so, it's going to have a

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:47.720
<v Speaker 1>different answer. And so, because different parts of the universe

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:50.879
<v Speaker 1>have different curvature, right like near black holes or near

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Sun's or whatever. Then different parts of the universe have

0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 1>aged differently since it's beginning. So the universe does not

0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:00.839
<v Speaker 1>have one single age. Just like your feet and your

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 1>head are not the same age, assuming you haven't spent

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 1>your whole life in bed, the parts of the universe

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 1>have different ages. I do a lot of handstands, so

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying not to go bald, so I'm keeping my head.

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I think we all need a video of you doing

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 1>a handstand. Let's see that. That's good. But I guess

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 1>that confuses me because you told me earlier that acceleration

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:26.240
<v Speaker 1>is absolute, so I can measure exceloration absolutely, and time

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 1>is actually bent by exploration. So couldn't I, I don't know,

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:33.400
<v Speaker 1>find a spot in the universe that's never been accelerated

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:37.759
<v Speaker 1>and say that, like, that's the absolute age of the universe. Well,

0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:39.880
<v Speaker 1>that's the age of that part of the universe, and

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 1>that would be the oldest part of the universe. That

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:45.759
<v Speaker 1>part would have experienced the most time. But you know,

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:47.759
<v Speaker 1>if you had put a clock somewhere else in the

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 1>universe and let it run since the beginning, it would

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>have a different number. So like different parts of the

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 1>universe have different ages, and you might reasonably say, well,

0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 1>the oldest part of the universe, I'm gonna use that

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>as the a age of the universe. Yeah, nobody cares

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 1>how young my feet are. I care, I care, you care.

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:08.920
<v Speaker 1>It sounded a lot like I care though, Right, that

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 1>sounded sincere didn't it. But yeah, so there's sort of

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:14.799
<v Speaker 1>an age limit to the universe, right, Like you're you're

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:17.400
<v Speaker 1>saying that there is an absolute age of the universe

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:20.239
<v Speaker 1>by which we can measure all other ages. Yeah, there's

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 1>a maximum age to the universe, right, there is a

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 1>number beyond which no part of the universe could have

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:29.399
<v Speaker 1>experienced more time than that if you wanted to find

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 1>that as the age of the whole universe. I guess

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense, But I think more conceptually it makes

0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 1>sense to imagine, like how many clock ticks have there

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:39.160
<v Speaker 1>been in a given part of the universe, And that's

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:42.239
<v Speaker 1>not equal all over the universe. It depends on how

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 1>much gravity there is nearby, right, Because I guess even

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:48.399
<v Speaker 1>our solar system is being accelerated around the Milky Way,

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 1>so therefore our time is sort of being slowed down

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.920
<v Speaker 1>in that way too. Yeah, the curvature of the center

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:56.879
<v Speaker 1>of the Milky Way and that supermassive black hole does

0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:59.320
<v Speaker 1>affect the motion of the Sun and the curvature nearby,

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 1>which slows down our time. And I guess you were

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 1>trying to tell me earlier that there is sort of

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 1>a philosophical question here, which is like, does acceloration change

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:15.840
<v Speaker 1>time or does time change acceleration. Yeah, it's familiar to

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 1>think about general relativity is saying that mass causes space

0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:24.360
<v Speaker 1>to bend, and then the curvature of space tells masses

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 1>how to move. Right, that you get an appearance of acceleration,

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:31.399
<v Speaker 1>this effective force of gravity because space itself is bent.

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 1>There's a missing component there, right, which is that time

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 1>is also curved by mass. So you have mass somewhere,

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't just curve space, It also curves time, which

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 1>is what we've been talking about today, And the curving

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 1>of time also contributes to this force of gravity. So

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:50.440
<v Speaker 1>gravity is an apparent force that comes not just from

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 1>the bending of space but also from the bending of time.

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:56.279
<v Speaker 1>The two work together because spacetime really is sort of

0:41:56.560 --> 0:42:00.880
<v Speaker 1>one thing to create this effect of gravity. You're saying time.

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 1>You can also bend time, just like you can bend space,

0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and somehow that's where gravity comes from. Yeah, exactly. It's

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:11.319
<v Speaker 1>familiar to use like a rubber sheet analogy, where parts

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 1>of space are bent and that changes how an object

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 1>moves sort of naturally. And you know, that's a little

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 1>confusing because in what direction is the rubber sheet bending.

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:22.000
<v Speaker 1>It's bending in some sort of like external direction. You

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:24.840
<v Speaker 1>can measure it in terms of like another dimension in reality,

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 1>in our space. It's intrinsic curvature. It just changes the

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 1>relationship between points in space their relative distances. So that's

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 1>a familiar way to think about how the curvature space

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 1>affects the motion of an object. You can do something

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:40.840
<v Speaker 1>similar for a time. You can imagine like different parts

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 1>of the universe flowing with different time. Right, It's sort

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:46.479
<v Speaker 1>of like you're moving down a river and different parts

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>of the river are moving faster than others, and that

0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:51.400
<v Speaker 1>will affect the motion of objects. Like you have a

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 1>really big object in a river and the river is

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:56.280
<v Speaker 1>flowing faster on the left side than on the right side.

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 1>It's going to change the way that object moves it

0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:01.880
<v Speaker 1>like tug it towards it's the slow moving part of

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the river, and that's part of how the curvature space

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:09.319
<v Speaker 1>and time creates this effect of gravity that objects no

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 1>longer move in what we perceive to be straight lines.

0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:13.759
<v Speaker 1>I see you're saying, like you can think of it

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 1>the other way around, Like me falling to the Earth

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 1>or me being an orbit around Earth is actually a

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 1>consequence of the differences in time, and like differences in

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 1>time cause me to move from one place to another, exactly,

0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 1>it's space and time being heard, both affect your trajectory. Cool,

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 1>So in a way, asking why does gravity slow down time,

0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 1>you could also mainly ask why does time slowing downtime

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:41.880
<v Speaker 1>cause gravity? Yeah, exactly. Another way to think about it

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 1>is that the effective gravity we observe is coming from

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the curvature space and the curvature of time, and that

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:51.800
<v Speaker 1>gravitational time dilation is just another aspect of the curving

0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:54.800
<v Speaker 1>of space time in respect to mass. So I guess

0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:56.359
<v Speaker 1>in the end, you just have to say that it's

0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:59.400
<v Speaker 1>all sort of kind of the same thing. It's all

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:01.319
<v Speaker 1>sort of relate it in and it's all you know.

0:44:01.360 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 1>You can look at it from one way, or you

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:05.359
<v Speaker 1>can look at it upside down. But at the end

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 1>of the day, and it all comes down to really

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I think exceloration, right, Like things that accelerate have to

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 1>slow down in time because of the speed limit of

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>the universe. Yeah, that's a consistent way to think about it.

0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I prefer the sort of geometrical way to think about it,

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:20.719
<v Speaker 1>that we're living in a universe that's courage and work,

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 1>but we don't perceive it directly, and so the way

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:26.480
<v Speaker 1>things move through space and time are affected by these

0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:29.680
<v Speaker 1>like invisible warping. That sort of geometrically makes the most

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>sense to me. But you can also think about it

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:34.839
<v Speaker 1>just in terms of acceleration in flat space. Yeah, all right, Well,

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:36.759
<v Speaker 1>I guess that answer is sort of the question why

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 1>does gravity slow down time? The answer is because of

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:43.360
<v Speaker 1>exploration and why does exceleraation slow than time? Well, we

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 1>probably need a whole new podcast episode about it. Yeah,

0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 1>why does gravity slow down time? Because time is bent

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:52.440
<v Speaker 1>in the presence of mass, just like spaces. I think

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:56.680
<v Speaker 1>you just went all the way around. Why does the

0:44:56.680 --> 0:45:00.080
<v Speaker 1>excelation slow in time because slowing downtime causes excelraation. It

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.719
<v Speaker 1>sounds like a great answer, and it causes podcasts to

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:04.719
<v Speaker 1>go in circles. Yeah, and now you can just hit

0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 1>replay and listen to this episode all over again and

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:10.760
<v Speaker 1>it should make sense. Right. It's all pretty tricky stuff.

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:13.160
<v Speaker 1>In the end, it all comes down to consequences from

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:16.320
<v Speaker 1>our observation that the speed of light is the maximum

0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:18.440
<v Speaker 1>speed of the universe that just happens to be the

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:20.399
<v Speaker 1>universe we live in. And when we build in those

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:23.480
<v Speaker 1>constraints into our theories, these are all the consequences that

0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 1>come out of it. And maybe that point is what

0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:27.160
<v Speaker 1>you were saying earlier than you know. We have the

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:30.719
<v Speaker 1>speed limit and it causes time to do weird things.

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:33.440
<v Speaker 1>So maybe time is not a fundamental thing, right, Like

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:37.360
<v Speaker 1>it's not outside of the universe. Maybe time it's something

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:40.400
<v Speaker 1>that comes out of how the universe works, yeah, or

0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 1>how we are perceiving it or measuring it. And you know,

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:46.879
<v Speaker 1>there's a whole universe of crazy ideas about time, even

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:49.160
<v Speaker 1>ideas that like time is not essential part of the

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:51.480
<v Speaker 1>universe but comes out of something else, or that there

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:54.720
<v Speaker 1>are multiple dimensions of time, the way there are multiple

0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:57.799
<v Speaker 1>dimensions of space, and we're just moving on like a

0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:02.120
<v Speaker 1>one D line through threedom mentional time. Man, there's a

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:05.759
<v Speaker 1>whole like crazy, crazy set of really fun ideas to

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 1>dig into. Unfortunately we are out of time for this episode.

0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 1>We'll have to find more time to get into it more.

0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 1>But we hope you enjoyed that and maybe got you

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:17.359
<v Speaker 1>to think a little bit more about how young your

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:19.520
<v Speaker 1>feet are and how you should maybe do more handstand

0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to see that video if you're doing a handstand,

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:24.759
<v Speaker 1>I can do what actually, but now it's not the time,

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:27.640
<v Speaker 1>all right, Well, thanks for joining us, see you next time.

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:38.200
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0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:41.520
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