WEBVTT - KD AUBERT - The Fake It Till You Make It Chicken 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:03.040 Hey, y'all, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:05.800 I'm your host, Coney Witt, and today we have the 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:09.200 original k D in the building. And no, I am 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:12.280 not talking about Kevin Durant. I'm talking about k D 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:16.760 Awards in the building. How are you doing good? I'm good. 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:19.520 I'm so excited to have you here. I'm a huge fan. 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:23.360 I had seen k D out at an event for 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:27.720 Lunelle and I whispered to my friend and I said, Dorn, 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:31.080 that's k D. Man. We gotta get k D on 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:33.440 the show. And you were so approachable and so sweet, 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.480 and so I'm happy we finally worked it out to Plus, 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.440 I love the cook Yes, yes, that's what was one 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:41.560 of the first things you told me. We're like, oh yeah, cooky, Yeah, 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:44.800 let's do it. So what do you have us eating today? So? 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:47.440 Um today? What this is? I call this the fake 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.840 it till you make it chicken breast um and believe 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:54.200 you're not using an egg plant. You're actually able to 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:57.960 if you cut it properly, cut the right way, you 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:01.360 can feed like up to five or six really yeah, 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:03.000 And then you know you figure an egg plant. You 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:04.600 can get an egg plant for like less than two 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:07.800 dollars at the at the grocery store. And it's a 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:30.280 healthy alternative too. So I'm so curious how you have 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.280 a fake it to make it an eggplant, Like does 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:35.080 it give the same nutritional value kind of? And I'm sure. 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:40.600 I mean, I'm a lover of vegetables and you know, um, 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:43.959 I always try to add like a healthier element to 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.480 to my food. So I mean, I would say that 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:49.360 it's probably a little more healthier, you know than a 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.360 chicken brass. People think that you think protein protein, you 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.560 think only meat, but you can get protein from vegetables too, 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.200 So who knows. I mean, I haven't done the calculations 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:01.520 on that. But so what what ingredients do you have? 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:08.280 So today I have one egg plant, I have three eggs. Um, 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:15.600 there's some progressive breadcrumbs Italian style, some salt, pepper, garlic powder, um. 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.720 And there's some olive oil. And with this you can 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:22.640 either use olive oil or cooking oil. Um. It tends 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:26.640 to fry better with cooking oil. So the difference between 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:28.800 olive oil, I hate to be that person, but what 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.480 is the difference between olive oil and cooking oil? Olive 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.280 oil is actually something you're not even really supposed to cook. 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.000 You're not supposed to. It's something more for like on 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:40.799 top of salads or you know. Yeah, but I mean 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:45.120 people cook with it too. It just has a heavier weight. Okay, 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:49.000 cary in it. You can fry in it. It's um, 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:52.120 it's gonna give you a different type of cooking oil, 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.680 give you more of a fluff of your crispy kind 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.160 of thing. This is just a little heavier. So we're 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:00.800 gonna destroy the dish. Uh No, we don't destroy it 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.600 because we're gonna make it work. We're gonna make it work. Okay. 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:06.959 So yeah, this is this is really this is really awesome. 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.280 Thank you so much. Yeah, no, thank you for coming. 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.880 And you were broke at some point correct, Well, yeah, 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.000 you know what in the beginning of my career, when 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:18.680 I decided that college wasn't gonna work, you know, I 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.560 had to make a decision, and I chose, um, this 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:26.240 career and this journey and um. You know you. I 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:28.320 tell people sometimes when you move to l A with 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.880 your dreams and your passions and things like that, no 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:33.360 matter how planned you are, no matter how much of 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.880 a budget you have set aside, housing, everything set up 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.040 it's almost like and I'm sure it's like this with 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:42.320 anything you're seeking in life, but you're always just gonna 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:46.120 have those moments, and those moments are what pretty much 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.240 make you know good, like make or break you or 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.760 something they make or break you. They give you the character, 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.520 they give you the tough skin, you know, and they 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.840 just give you moments where it makes you want to 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.760 fight harder and push harder. So okay, well let's get 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:05.680 to again. What do you need first? So here, let's see. Yeah, 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:08.720 I'm gonna need to stand from So we're gonna start 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:10.880 with the cutting board, right, can I put this here? 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:15.880 Going to move that plate over there? So, um, you 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:17.880 have your egg plant which has been washed off and 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.559 all that good stuff, and so at the at the 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:22.440 fourth at the top of the egg plant where it 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:26.279 was connected to the stem, you just want to um 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:31.240 remove that. So you can just cut that off. And 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.880 sometimes I cut it at an angle just because if 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:38.560 I want to have some type of shape on the end, 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:40.719 but today it's not really an issue, so we're just 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:42.960 gonna take the top off there. So what I like 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:45.800 to do is it's kind of like lay it flat on, 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:50.039 like it's flat aside or whatever. Usually they're really all around, 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.680 so you know it's either here nor there, but or 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.440 you can stand it up, right. So what happens is 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:57.719 you just how many people do you want to feed? 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:00.920 Let's make up a number. Well, we're just feeding us, okay. 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:02.960 So and then if it's really good, you know, maybe 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:06.839 does the crew want to try this? Oh? Okay, whoa, Yes, 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.400 we'll make it for three. Yeah. Perfect. So here's the 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:13.479 seeds I was talking about. They're really really small, you 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.960 know what I mean. You can't really like and you 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:17.920 can eat the seeds, you can eat the whole thing. 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:22.159 So we're just gonna make these. So you just cut 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:27.040 all the way down and you see how thick that is. Yeah. 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:32.600 See that's your fake chicken rest, right. And so also 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:37.640 this dish really works well if you're trying to recreate, like, um, 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:42.000 a chicken parmesan. Oh yeah, so this would be like 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:46.039 a perfect substitute for that. So we're gonna cut one more. 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.520 See now this because I'm going a little bit thicker 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.440 for three people. But so far we've you know, we've 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.000 kind of got enough for We're gonna go for it 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.880 because we're gonna do I want to try it yeah. 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:00.760 When I say it's good, they come out from the 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:03.160 behind and they're like, let me try, let me try it. Right. 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.800 So you see, we have like we got enough to 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:08.960 feed a little family here right now. I could have 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.039 made this one like a little bit like thinner, right, 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.680 but this one too. You can use these these as well. 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:16.479 It's it's kind of like the end of the bread. 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:18.240 You know how there's that the butt at the end 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.760 of the bread. Some people are with it, some people aren't, 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:24.960 but right, and so you can also cut this off. 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:29.160 That will give it the same type of feel and 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.440 it will also it'll, um, I believe it will kind 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:35.040 of cook better because sometimes the skin takes a while, 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:39.479 it takes longer to cook. So now we have all 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:43.440 of our pieces. So next what we're gonna do is 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:48.160 we're gonna grab our bowl, right and um, you know, 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:53.000 I'll move on, I'll move this. I'll be your little assist. 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:57.920 Thanks my sush chef. So we have a bowl here. 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.280 So you take your eggs, I mean, depending on how 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:04.920 many pieces, because if you had two egg plants wanted 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.400 you know what I mean, that's how much you add 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:13.280 up your egg So we're gonna just crack an egg. Nice, 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:19.840 dump it in the bowl and grab Are you only 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.640 using one egg for this? I'm gonna use all three. 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:27.080 But you know again, it's like you really just can't 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:30.720 go wrong with um. Get this little piece of show 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:34.800 out of here. You can't go wrong. I mean I 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:39.160 could make it work with um, let's just say two 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:43.080 eggs to be safe, because see how that is right here, 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:47.320 and then it's fairly thin. But if you don't have 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:49.680 a lot of money and you only have like one egg, 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:54.360 you can make it work. But it would be it 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.360 would be tough because this is what's gonna make the 0:07:56.400 --> 0:08:01.520 Italian bread crumb stick. So it's like the more the better. 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:06.960 These eggs are okay, it's fine. We can have shell 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:11.120 in are like no, no, no. So you ate this 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.400 when you were broker? What was going on where you're 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:19.680 coming up with this amazing uh make version of meat? Right? 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:23.240 So you know, it was just like when you just 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.040 are at that point in your life where you just 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:32.400 want to get creative and healthy and save money and um, 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.800 I wipe my hands. Can I use this? Use whatever 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.319 it is here? Oh we also have this for you, 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:43.880 Oh wonderful a towel? Thank you? Is there a trash 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:45.800 can as well. Know you can do you want to 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:47.720 use this ball? Okay, I can use the bowl for 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:55.400 the shelves and the the there. Well, then now your 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.400 official chef. You're cleaning up right after every Yeah, that's 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:00.440 something that my mom taught me when I was younger. 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:02.880 I always clean up while you cook. That way, when 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.040 you finish, you could just go eat and you can 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:13.800 put this stuff on the Okay, no, that was so 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:15.800 I'm just gonna go ahead and just put this third 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:23.880 egg in here. Okay, did you learn this dish in 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:29.360 France or well? This was something that um I had 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:33.040 seen before and I just wanted to try it, and 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.640 then I tried it and I really liked it. But 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:39.360 I perfected it because before it was a flower thing. 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.240 I think I've seen it on your show on your YouTube. 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.560 You couldn't know. You showed it, but you didn't show 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.640 how you made it? Was that? But was that the 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:49.240 one I put in the oven? That was the one 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:52.240 I put in the oven? Right? There was one where 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:56.959 you cook? She cooked these flowers. She showed either the end, 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:58.480 but I don't I think you either showed the end, 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:00.560 but you didn't know how either. You showed how to 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:02.320 make it or you showed them, but I remember I 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.880 just remember walking away. They like, but I still had 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:08.480 more questions. Are you sure I didn't show all that? Yeah, 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:12.199 because I remember saying or maybe you didn't show how 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.320 you did it. There was there was one video where 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.280 you had and it was like that. It was like, 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:21.720 that's the flower from a zucchini. Yes, you are really 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.960 really popular in France and you put people stuff cheese 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:28.720 in them and then you fry them. I watched it. 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:33.079 You you had a video online. Oh those were so good, 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.640 but I don't think you showed how you made it online. 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.679 I got to go back and look. Now, I'll probably 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:39.600 do if I if I see it, I'm gonna like 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:41.520 d M you and say, see this is the video 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:44.720 that had the cliffhanger that I was like, huh yeah, 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:46.840 because there was something missing and I remember being like 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:50.480 I think talking about but it wasn't finished, and I 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.360 was like, dang, I think I wanted to see you 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.760 eat it or something. Maybe do you watch those people 0:10:55.840 --> 0:11:01.120 that eat like seafood online? My ba mog bang bang 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:07.240 bang bang. It is stuff I do, but then I 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:12.319 want to go make my own. I'm like they do right, now. Um. 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:14.160 So yeah, so I put the eggs in the bowl, 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.119 and then what I did was I'm gonna put them 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:21.080 So you can do this any o kind of way. Um, 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.000 you can use a bowl, you can use a plate. 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:25.520 But what happens is you see how big these pieces are, 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:29.640 so they have to be able to fit inside of 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:31.480 where you put your egg, and then they have to 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.520 be able to fit, you know, where you put that. 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.480 So that's always something to take into consideration because you 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:41.120 can't this wouldn't necessarily fit in a bowl. Oh that's now, 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:45.560 see what I'm saying. So now that we have everything 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:47.200 set up, so let me go over here and show 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:52.240 you about this. Right the the seasoning. If you get 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:56.360 the progressive breadcrumbs, the Italian style, they're already season but 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.040 I always I tend to like to add a little 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:03.080 bit um more so sometimes a little if you add 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:07.920 like a little bit of black pepper, um, and then 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.720 you know, and these are also things that you can add. 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:15.960 Um at the end. I love garlic. I used I 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.000 use garlic a lot. Yeah, and so you can also 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:22.480 add some some garlic powder in there, just to season 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:25.240 that up a little bit. Um. So we're just gonna 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:30.120 just add that to that and then um, so as 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:34.079 far as like salt, salt is something that I'm gonna 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:38.760 just drift sprinkle on after because when you do fry things, 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:41.560 you lose a lot, You lose a lot of the 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:46.040 seasonings and and so forth. So I'm gonna just take 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:55.080 a wooden spoon here and I'm just gonna whisk the seasonings. 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:57.200 Just give it a light mix, you know what I'm saying, 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:04.480 Just so you get all your season things mixed them together, yeah, 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.440 and get up. It's it's just to even it out, 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:12.440 you know. So once you've done that, then you get 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:17.560 so we got to start the oil hunt. Yeah, I 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.480 probably should have done that a little bit sooner. But 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:24.800 it's totally fun, right, So this is it. Okay, So 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:29.880 we're gonna and just so you know, like I'm actually 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:35.920 very passionate about, um, just teaching people how to eat 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.640 healthy and how you can do it where it's not expensive, 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:40.720 because you hear a lot of times people say they 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:45.520 want to eat healthy, but it's too expensive. And you know, um, 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:49.560 I'm a farmer's market girl, so uh And luckily for 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.640 me in France, I have friends and family over there 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:55.880 who who work at the farmer's market, and their business 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:59.560 is the vegetables. So if you follow me on Instagram 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.920 when I was there, there were times where I would 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.000 just go and give my family like bucks and I'm 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:08.680 coming out of there with like a crate of vegetables. 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:12.800 Yeah you're happy. No, I'm in heaven. That's like my chanelle. 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:16.199 You know. It's like it's like my kitchen at all times. 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:19.680 And I think I got this from Chef Ramsey. Um, 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:25.600 my kitchen always always has an abundance of vegetables. It 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.280 just it makes me, It gets me excited. Yeah, I 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:31.800 always have Like I'm the opposite. You go on my 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.080 fridge and it's like, where's the vegetables. No, this is 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:37.480 just outside the frigerator. We haven't even got into the inside. 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:41.320 So yeah, it really turns me on to have lots 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:45.040 and lots of fresh produce and vegetables and stuff in 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:48.960 my house because that's where I get creative. So, speaking 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:53.360 of creates creativeness, let's talk about your career. We're gonna 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.680 heat up some oil while we do that. Again, this 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:57.440 is olive oil, so this is gonna be a little 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:03.600 bit different. Okay, Now, out we've seen you in modeling, campaigns. 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.760 We've seen you in movies and TV shows, Like I 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:10.960 want to know like where all started and like how 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:15.240 it all started? Well, I mean, you know, um, I 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.720 started off as an athlete. I've been playing softball my 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:23.040 whole life, offball, basketball, track, And originally my goal was 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:25.400 just to go get a scholarship and you know, go 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:27.960 to college play softball and then maybe like coach for 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:33.160 a team or something, and then, um, you know, it 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.040 just wasn't And I was a tomboy. I never wore makeup. 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.760 I never really paid attention to myself like that. Like 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:42.640 I was literally like coming home with bloody knees all 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:45.520 the time from playing baseball and skateboarding in the street. 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:49.040 So it's just kind of like it wasn't until people 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.880 started approaching me at random times in my life asking 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:53.560 me if they could take my picture, if I would 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:55.360 be in their hair show, if I would do this, 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:56.840 and I would do that, and then there was just 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:00.800 always such a great response. So you know, it just 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.880 was and that just led to people starting to give 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.920 me those encouraging words like have you ever thought about modeling? Girl? 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:08.440 You could? You could do? You could? And I was 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.720 a big girl, so you know, I was you mean 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.720 like you were heavier. I was a lot heavier. Yes, 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.080 I was a lot, lot a lot heavier. And this 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.480 was before now when you say bigger, were you like 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:23.480 I was like a size twelve okay, okay, So and 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.120 they were approaching you for modeling at that time, yeah, 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:27.920 and it was like but they didn't know any better 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.360 in San Diego, California. So it was just kind of 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.280 like pair shows and you know, things like that. And 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.640 then it wasn't until you know, I went through the 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:39.160 you know, took my little pictures to the agencies and 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:40.880 they were like, well, you're cute, but you're too big, 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.920 you're too fat, whatever. And from then I just kind 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:45.400 of like, I didn't give up, but I just was like, 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:49.720 screw this. So I went did some you know, Um, 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.000 I got a job at the at Macy's doing makeup, 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:54.400 and so I just figured this, I'd just be a 0:16:54.400 --> 0:17:00.320 makeup artist and um, you know that's when um, someone 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:02.200 approached me at my job and then it just kind 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.679 of just opened up some doors and it was just 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:06.919 I mean, it's a lot of details, but it was 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:10.760 just amazing. My whole career has been amazing because all 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:14.600 the stuff that I've done. I never trained for any 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:19.320 of this. You didn't trying to be like acting. Wow, 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:23.359 you've been in a lot of Yeah, I mean I 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:26.119 can act, I write music, and I've been validated and 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:29.159 all these things. So you know, I just I just 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:30.879 go with it, you know what I mean. To be 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:32.600 honest with you, I don't even really think about this 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:34.720 ship half the time. I'm just kind of like, if 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:36.960 it's something I want to do, I do it. Now 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.359 do you ever go after it or does it always 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.200 come to you? Like? Okay? So there are roles where 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:44.240 you've had to audition for. Oh, yeah, I have to 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.639 audition for Friday After Next. That was my very first 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.600 I did nothing before that. What was your official breakout role? 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.040 Was it Friday After Next? Because I mean I gost 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.919 to the show on MTV, but that was like a 0:17:54.920 --> 0:18:01.720 co host with with um Dave. Oh, I think I 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.720 know who you're talking. God, he's gonna kill me. Um. 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:09.200 The show was called Kidnapped Dave Holmes. I was just 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.639 I was his his co host on that, so um 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:14.840 but yeah, you know, it just it was just things 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:16.920 that just kept happening and happening, and then I was 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.520 working with humongous stars out the gate. It was like 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:25.040 ice Cube, Harrison Ford, Woody Harrelson, Um the Rock, Michael Clark, 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.560 Duncan you know, it was just it just it was 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:31.159 getting bigger and bigger, and it was just like, you know, 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.120 it's just been a it's been a great ride. Now. 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.240 Were there any gaps where it was like hard or 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:37.120 was there any point in your career where it got 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:40.440 like difficult or I mean, the only thing that made 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:44.479 a difficult really weird decision. What do you mean, like, 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:46.119 for instance, if you noticed there was a point in 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:47.920 my career rock and things kind of stopped, that fell 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.439 off a little bit. You know. I used to be 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:53.560 represented by one of the top publicists in the game, right, 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:58.439 and she had Whitney Houston, Hugh Jackman, huge people, and 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:01.639 this was my first experience and with the world of 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.159 publicity and things like that. Well, she wouldn't let me 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:08.160 do any black publicity, any black publicity. Oh you mean, 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:14.200 like any black press press? Why? And I and I 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.320 got frustrated about that, and you know, I'm paying you 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.760 twenty bucks a month and that was that was then, yeah, 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.120 you know, and so it was like and I'm just like, 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:28.320 I just was turned off by it, so I left 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.680 and it was like this, there was just I had 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:35.760 I worked with people like, um my agency, my first 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:38.960 agency was a very big agency, and I was I 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:41.560 was bringing in a lot of money and there were 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:44.000 certain people I couldn't get on the phone, and I'm 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:46.840 just like, are you serious? Like I'm not, I don't know, 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:49.199 Like I was just like I don't like that. So 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:50.960 then you were like, I'm out. Yeah, And it probably 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:54.040 wasn't the best decision, but I was just me again, 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.240 I didn't plan any of this. Do you think those 0:19:56.280 --> 0:20:00.680 were good decisions looking back? Oh no, well kind one 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:03.679 of them, yes, which on the publicity. Yeah, yeah, that 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:06.439 was a good So I'm just like, damn, that sucks 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.280 because you're it was it was. It wasn't like an 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:11.560 ego thing either. It just I just like it wasn't 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:14.639 it wasn't fair, Like it wasn't fair. And if a 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:16.760 press person came to her and said, Hey, I want 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:20.440 a booquet D for my show or for my magazine, 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:23.000 she would turn it down before it got to you, 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:25.440 or she would and then ignore it turn it down. 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:28.520 But the thing is, it's like I had records, they 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.239 gave me a breakdown every month of everything that came in. 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:34.000 Who called So I could see this, like, Hey, why 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:35.960 you run into people in the street. They're like, hey, 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:37.399 we've been trying to get you. We've been trying to 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:38.719 get you. We've been trying to get you, and your 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:40.760 people keep you know. So it was kind of like 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:43.040 a thing like that, and I didn't not even know 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:48.200 that that sucks. But so so that was a good decision. 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:50.720 You say, yeah, I mean it might not have been. 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:53.960 You know, listen, so you think that handered your career 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:55.920 a little bit. I think it just kind of might have. 0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:59.359 It makes me when stuff like that happens in my life, 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:03.800 it makes me um step back and just put everything 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:06.600 in perspective. And usually that's when I do ship. Like 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:08.480 what I just recently did was I'll go move to 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:12.960 another country because I've lived in several countries. Yeah, you 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:15.719 packed up and you left. Yeah, like it left us 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:18.600 grow to get out of here. So like what was 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:20.359 going on where you were like that's it, I'm done. 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:23.040 I wasn't done. I just was like going on a 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:24.800 long vacation. I just was like I just want to 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:28.800 change the scenery. You know. It was like the industry, Hollywood. 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:31.760 The money was starting to get bad, we were getting 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:33.800 a new president and things are I was just starting 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:37.600 to feel I'm a forward thinker, so I can kind 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:41.040 of see things before they happened and in my mind 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:44.879 and according to me, and so I just felt like 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:47.640 I was like, Yo, this ship is getting crazy over here. 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:50.880 Was there like a pivotal point in your career where 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:53.639 you were like taking off, Like was there one particular 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:56.560 thing that like tipped it? There was a bunch of things. 0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:59.760 I mean, like, I mean, you gotta you figure like 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:06.000 I was, I was like modeling, and then from the 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:08.840 modeling was commercials, and then from commercials it was like 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:10.879 the TV show, and then from the TV show it 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:13.040 was the movies, and then from the movies it was 0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:16.080 like bigger campaigns. Like everything just it's it's been. It's 0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:19.119 just it's just been an amazing it's been amazing, you know. 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:21.800