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Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and

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Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the

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Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history.

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Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments

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Speaker 3: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian

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Speaker 1: Search for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast.

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Speaker 2: Marcus, thanks for taking the time today.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for sure, No, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you about the punt returns.

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Speaker 6: Seems like that part of the games looking pretty good

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Speaker 2: What in your view is working right now with the

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Speaker 2: punt returns?

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Speaker 7: First off, I always say Spring Show has been, you know,

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Speaker 7: putting up a great basically message to us every single

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Speaker 7: time that we come in to meetings. Let us know

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Speaker 7: how important special Teams is as a whole. And then

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Speaker 7: also just the schemes that we've been having guys blocking

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Speaker 7: school or hasty you know, everyone corners, Marco Dial, all

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Speaker 7: doing their blocks and everything like that just so I

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Speaker 5: So it's been a whole collective effort for sure.

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Speaker 2: I love that you call them spring show.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, spring show.

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Speaker 2: Where does that come from? Ah?

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Speaker 5: No, that's what you basically call them. Uh School, Me

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Speaker 5: and school calling that all the time.

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Speaker 8: So Marcus, your mentality as a punt returner seems like

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Speaker 8: a big part of a job. Sometimes you're returning the

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Speaker 8: ball when I think some people are like, oh, that

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Speaker 8: that's a fair catch.

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Speaker 2: How do you How do you balance that idea of like.

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Speaker 8: Wanting to be aggressive but also protecting yourself at times

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll say it all starts with trust. You know.

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Speaker 7: The main thing that I'm saying is trusting the guys

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Speaker 5: You know, block made every time.

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Speaker 7: But I know if I do make the first guy

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Speaker 10: Hey, Marcus, appreciate your time. Just to walk along those lines.

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Speaker 10: Gonna kind of take me through. You know what you're

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Speaker 10: in those couple of seconds, obviously so many things happen.

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Speaker 10: You have to make so many reads. What is what's

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Speaker 5: Reality I'm not.

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Speaker 7: But having that mind of just knowing, you know that

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Speaker 5: Thanks works, We'll go back to Mike Greece.

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Speaker 9: Mike do everything else.

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Speaker 2: I had one more.

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Speaker 8: I'm just coming out of meetings today. What's sort of

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for sure, thank you' all.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, Marcus, you got me, I got

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Speaker 2: you know all right. I'm in the car, just pulled over.

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Speaker 2: So we talked after the game in the locker room.

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Speaker 8: But just now that you've been through offensive meetings going

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Speaker 12: Oh yeah, I feel like we just need to work

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Speaker 12: it's a perfect time to go score now, to bring

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Speaker 2: And let's see can you hear me? Pop?

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Speaker 8: And then on Drake, on Drake, what I'm wh what

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Speaker 8: did you see from Drake the way he competed in

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Speaker 5: Hey, pop the balls? Well with you again?

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Speaker 2: On on Drake, can you see glimpses.

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Speaker 10: Of you know, what he can be and and what

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Speaker 12: I'm the second year, still still got work to be done.

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Speaker 10: His ability to create on broken plays obviously mostly with

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Speaker 12: He used his legs his arm. So I mean for

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Speaker 10: what do you see?

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Speaker 12: I still have you know, uh improvement, you know, like

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Speaker 12: I just said, you know, if you want to be great,

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 12: You know, I wouldn't say, you know anything his fault,

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Speaker 3: The weather yesterday, like the heat obviously it was all hotter,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the time for us today.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, Thank you, Bob, thanks Stacey, and thanks for

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Speaker 2: Try to move forward with the defense.

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Speaker 11: Everybody, uh, you know, wanted to get the win, so

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Speaker 9: Next next question, Chris Ryan, And i'mencouraging anyone else to

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Speaker 5: Hey, Didred's hopeball?

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Speaker 10: Is uh well with you? Just on stopping the run

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Speaker 10: Is that kind of a product of not having Doug

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Speaker 10: It's a group thing, and you know, just kind of

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Speaker 11: We need to continue to grind in practice. And the

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Speaker 9: Or no other hands raised.

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Speaker 5: We'll go back to Mike Greece. Mike, if you have

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Speaker 8: Question, just say thanks Dietrich for taking the time. You know,

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Speaker 11: Wow.

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Speaker 9: See Wednesday, yep, Mike, Chris and Ryan, Karen and Chris,

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