1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Pack twelve fans. This one's 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles and only 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: the truth lives here Back twelve Apostles, Apostles, Pack twelve 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: athletic directors. We're considering a move to the Big ten, 5 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: but it got kabas. This is great news. How to 6 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: save the Pack twelve? According to stud Mandal will break 7 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: that down. Why aren't there more black coaches in college basketball? 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: In the PAC twelve? Sabrina I n s Q has 9 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: a tweet that goes viral. The transfer quarterbacks maybe leading 10 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: the way in the Pack twelve and one, and the 11 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: NFL draft is upon us. How will the Pack twelve too? 12 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm George rice Stir, He's Ralph Amstey and this is 13 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve Apostles. So thank you guys for listening 14 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: to the Pack twelve Apostles podcast, The podcast by Pack 15 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: twelve four Pack twelve fans, where you get the truth 16 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: and you guys can of course text and get ahold 17 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: of us eight one, eight two nine, three seven five 18 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: four seven eight one eight two nine, three, seven, five 19 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: four or seven. Make sure that you share the podcast, 20 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: have a friend about the podcast, Share it all those 21 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 1: kinds of things, you know, to continue it to grow. 22 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: Um and uh, I guess we'll start with the route 23 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: because everybody always wants the Ralph updates what's going on 24 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: with the with the money pit, because you were supposed 25 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: to watch the movie and I know you haven't watched 26 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: it yet. I'm not watching and I feel good about 27 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: my decision to not watch it. Let me let me 28 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: just get a little distance in between me and what's 29 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: going on. Um. So, on Tuesday, had my pool pump 30 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: and pool filter replaced. That was that was five thousand dollars. 31 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: Spent another couple of hundred on chemicals to to shock 32 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: all the algae out of it. And then I got 33 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: a quote from a landscape or just to tidy up 34 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: the front so we're not the ugliest house on the block. 35 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: He's had two thousand dollars. So I went out and 36 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: I did it all myself. So so how much money 37 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: did that cost you to do it yourself? I mean, 38 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: like in in Ralph work hours, like how much money 39 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: did that cost you? Well, you know, I don't have 40 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: the healthiest relationship with with money or or or or 41 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: knowing what my time is worth. But I figure if 42 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: I drop about three hours a day two and a 43 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: half to three hours a day, then I can save 44 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: us a ton of money and just doing a lot 45 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: of the stuff around here myself. We got popcorn ceilings, 46 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna scrape those myself. We got molding from room 47 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: to room that doesn't match in size or design. I'm 48 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: gonna replace all that myself. I'm a painter. My dad's 49 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: a painter, and so like I grew up working him, 50 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna paint this whole house myself. That should save 51 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: us some money. I'm gonna do all the floors myself, 52 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: which I have no idea how to do. I might 53 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: fly a couple of friends out here who do some 54 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: some floors. I know that that's gonna be ten thousand 55 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: dollars just in materials, and so who gus to do 56 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: their floors them themselves? Where the hell are you, Bob Vila? Well, no, 57 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: I'm not so it should. I'm curious to see how 58 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: it ends up looking. But I've been doing all sorts 59 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: of stuff. Man. I took a bunch of they had like, um, 60 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: this is a nineteen seventies home, So any door way 61 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: that didn't have like the in wall door that slides out, 62 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: or like a cheap interior door had the uh had 63 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: like the sliding closet um doors like the metallic ones. 64 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: So I've been going around taking all those off, just 65 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: trying to stay busy. Man, this place is uh, this 66 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: place is a mess. As long as we have water 67 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: and electricity. The next thing, I need to get an 68 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: electrician out here, because I'm sure I'm gonna electrocute myself 69 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: if I if if I if I get too deep 70 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: in the weeds with anything here. But I still got 71 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: some of there, so I still have to get a 72 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: dumpster dropped off because all of their stuff that they 73 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: left in the home, I've just piled into the garage, 74 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: so we can't use the garage yet. Um. And then 75 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm actually working from their dining room table that they 76 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: left here, um, next to a giant touch that they 77 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: also left here, So I gotta get those alled out too. Yeah, 78 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: and and didn't you carry a piano upstairs or something? 79 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: I got about three hundred calls from my cousin and 80 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of calls from my wife telling me not 81 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: to do it, So I the pods that dropped off 82 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: all our stuff still had a piano in them. I 83 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: didn't have anybody to help me lift the piano into 84 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: the house. So I was gonna go on on Facebook 85 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: marketplace and just offer somebody fifty bucks to show up 86 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: and help me carry it. And I spaced it and 87 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: so a few hours before the pods were supposed to 88 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: get picked up, I was like, I gotta get that piano, 89 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: my wife's grandmother's piano that she learned to play on. 90 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: I gotta get it out of out of the pod. 91 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: And so um, I was like, all right, I'm I'm 92 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: gonna try to do this myself. I'll find a way 93 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: to leverage it. I'll be super careful. You have three 94 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: boys there, Yeah, but there's still you know, they're they're 95 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: they're skinniest toothpicks and I my my my biggest. Uh. 96 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: I have a five ft six pound twelve year old. 97 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: I don't think he would be much help trying to 98 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: lift the piano. Um, he's still not coordinated yet. So 99 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: uh So what I ended up doing was I, uh 100 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: one of those floor dollies. Um. I was able to 101 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: scoot the piano out of the pod onto one of 102 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: those and roll it into the garage without breaking it. 103 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: So I didn't carry it up the stairs by myself. 104 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: It's just in the garage of blankets over it. And 105 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: when my wife gets here in a couple of weeks 106 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. But um, yeah, I'm trying to 107 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: do as much as I can man just a little 108 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: bit every day. There is so much to do. Though. 109 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: What I do know is I'm not gonna pay somebody 110 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: two thousand dollars just to tidy up the front. I'm not. 111 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start doing a lot of stuff that instead 112 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: of paying other people, want to do as much as 113 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: I can. If it ends up looking ugly, I'll still 114 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: know that ugly, ugly and uh and enough money to 115 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: buy food is better than perfect and broke in my opion. 116 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: So do you think that I would pay somebody two 117 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: thousand dollars to do the job that they offered to do. No, No, 118 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Not. If you saw this, it's it. 119 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say. I will pay 120 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 1: money for things, but I'm not paying if if something 121 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm funny about stuff like that. So if something costs 122 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: two thousand dollars, right, but I'm getting two thousand or 123 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: more in value, then then I have no problem paying 124 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: for it. If something costs one dollar and I'm only 125 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: getting ten cents in value, I won't buy it. Like 126 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: if something costs ten ten cents and I'm getting one 127 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: cent in value, I'll be like, oh no, that's way 128 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: too much. That's me. I don't. I just don't think 129 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: I I he intentionally bid himself out of the jo 130 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: I think he bid so much that it would give 131 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: me no option to say no. But like a thirty 132 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: dollar pair of shears and seven hours of my time 133 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: accomplishes the same goal. So I went and got the 134 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: thirty dollar pair of shears. I put half a day's 135 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: working today, I'll do the rest tomorrow. Heading to Atlanta 136 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: this weekend to see some prospects at at Rivals Camp 137 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: so we can get a nice break from housework driving 138 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: down to Atlanta to see some of the best kids 139 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: in the Southeast. Um. And since some of the back 140 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,239 Speaker 1: twelve schools are actually recruiting out here, it might actually 141 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: help improve our podcast a little bit. Who have thought right? Right? Um? 142 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: And then I'll be at some of the other camps 143 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: because my kid will be there. So like on the 144 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: West Coast, where ordinarily I don't go to camps. But 145 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: I am so now just just from one year to 146 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: the next, because you're the person who normally knows all 147 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: the high school prospects, and now my it is at 148 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 1: school with at least fifteen kids who are going to 149 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:09,559 Speaker 1: be the Division one prospects, at least fifteen, and then 150 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: and some of them are gonna go to Pack twelve schools, 151 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: And then he's at these camps. He works out with 152 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: the kids. So like I've seen of Finn Collins. I've 153 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: been to Finn Collins house, like you know, like just 154 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: from who's that Arizona State? Now the uh, the kid 155 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: that's going from Englewood that's going to go uh to 156 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: a Cow. I've been around him a lot, like because 157 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: he works out with my with my son. So just 158 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: seeing all of them and seeing all these quarterbacks, especially 159 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: I and my and my kid, he knows all of 160 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: It's like, oh yeah, I was tech texting to me yes, 161 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: and it's just weird. So now I know their names, 162 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: I know their faces. I'm like, ah, this kid's good. 163 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: This kid's not good. Um, Like for instance, the kid 164 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: Malik Murphy here who's going to Texas, right, he's a 165 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: five star kid. He is five star in talent alone, 166 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: Like if you watch his games this season, you would 167 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: be like that, there's no way that's five star kids, 168 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: no way. But he looks the part. He's got a 169 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: big arm sometimes that's the matter. Yeah, he looks the part. 170 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: But then when you watch the film, you're kind of like, 171 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, so, but that's high 172 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: school coaching sometimes, so you don't know what's what's what. 173 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens when he gets to to 174 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: Steve Sarkissian at Texas UM. But I guess first thing 175 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: is the PAC twelve athletic directors. We had Washington States 176 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: Pat Chun and Cows Jim Notton. They recently interviewed for 177 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: the Northwestern vacancy, but they're not now no longer candidates 178 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: for the job. But my thing is if I think 179 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: that albeit north Northwestern is a tremendous at athletic union 180 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: university and academic, well actually more academic, and their last 181 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: athletic directors have gone on to like major, major jobs, 182 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: like dope ass jobs. But the idea that Washington State 183 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: and Cow's athletic director could possibly see that as a 184 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: job upgrade, right, I mean there's a difference between the 185 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: geographic upgrade, and like somebody's seeing that that's a better job. 186 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: I think that that's bad for the Pact twelve if 187 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: they potentially feel like that's a better job. Because cal 188 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: and Northwestern, I think are on par academically. Cow's got 189 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: you know, connections and network all of that stuff, and 190 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: it's in California, whereas Washington and State is im pullment. 191 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: So I kind of get it a little bit more. 192 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: Do you think that that's I mean, I think for 193 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: Rob Cassidy, who works for Rivals always um puts this 194 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: in in in a way that makes me laugh because 195 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: it's definitely not the way that I'm motivated, but I 196 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: understand the practicality of it. He says, like, I let 197 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: me see if I can get this right. Basically, like, 198 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: if you are going to pay me one red cent 199 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: more than what I'm currently getting paid to do the 200 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: job that I'm already doing, I'm taking that job. Like 201 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: there's no there's no reason for me to not take 202 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: the additional income to do the same job that I'm 203 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: already doing. There's just there's just not especially factor in 204 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: if there's not going to be like a big tax 205 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: change or cost of living change. If ultimately the net 206 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: income is higher to do the job that you're already doing, 207 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: then that's a job worth considering. And I think that, 208 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: you know, that's not my mindset, but I would certainly 209 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: understand it if, you know, if it wasn't necessarily about prestige, 210 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: if they went into it looking at it to see 211 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: if it was more about fit, and who knows, ultimately, 212 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: maybe they just weren't the right candidates for Northwestern and 213 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't about them turning it down or removing their names. 214 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: Same with Kansas, because I had also heard Pat Chun's 215 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: name linked to the vacant um Kansas athletic director job. 216 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: But I mean, I fully see, I would fully understand 217 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 1: it if somebody was just taking the job because it's 218 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: a job they already do and at the end of 219 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: the day, it's going to add to their bottom line. Yeah, yeah, 220 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: I do agree, it's gonna add to their bottom line. 221 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: But the but see, this is what college coaches used 222 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: to do though, right They would chase the money like 223 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: they'd be like, okay, well I'm getting paid more here. 224 00:12:55,320 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: I know of coaches now who have turned down significant grades, 225 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: like like for instance, um Gerald Alexander who's now with 226 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, right he turned down USC two years ago. 227 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: USC offered him more money, a hundred thousand dollars more. 228 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: He was like, no, I'm good, I'm I'm gonna stay 229 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: up here at Cow. And it's not because he clearly 230 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: didn't think he was gonna be a Cow forever because 231 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: he's now with the Dolphins, but the idea of moving 232 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: your family around because he's got three three boys and 233 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: now girl, but at that point in time he only 234 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: had three boys, moving your family around so many times 235 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: and creating instability just chasing jobs. He was like that, 236 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: that's what him and a lot of the other coaches 237 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: talk about now is not just chasing jobs, making sure 238 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: it's the right job to where you can grow, have 239 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: more opportunity, and also be with the head coach that 240 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: you feel like you can learn from, which then will 241 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: thereby help you be more successful when you get your opportunity. 242 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: And clearly it seems like learning from Justin Wilcox was 243 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: better than learning from Clay Helton because his assistance haven't 244 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: seemingly gone on to you know, you know, bigger and 245 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: better jobs. Yeah, if it's if it's about the ultimate 246 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: end goal for what you're trying to accomplish in your career. 247 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: But I would think that there's definitely some stark differences 248 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: between your run of the mill assistant coach at the 249 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: college football level and an athletic director who you know, 250 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: who's probably um not a millennial as far as as 251 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: far as their their age um and and probably has 252 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, a healthy four oh one k and and 253 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: you know, and uh, you know what if you're if 254 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: you're in your fifties and sixties, what ultimately are you 255 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: trying to economy build build something? Right? So, Washington State 256 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: is competitive in the Pact twelve in football, right like 257 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: they're they're not an upper tier program. They're clearly not 258 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: the worst program, um, but they only generated seventy one 259 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: million dollars in revenue in twenty nineteen seventy one. That's 260 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: bottom of the conference. And then Oregon State at eighty 261 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: two million, when pretty much like most schools were a 262 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: hundred million plus. You got you know, Texas Alabama going 263 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: at two hundred million, and the Big ten schools are 264 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: super high up because of the new TV money. So 265 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: maybe Pat Chun, who's actually hired pretty well at Washington State, 266 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: right for uh, in football especially he got Leach and 267 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: then and he just got Rolovich. Then he seemed to 268 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: be going going well uh uh noting over at cal 269 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: he Um. What do you do? Yeah, he hired Wilcox, 270 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: clearly whipped on the basketball coach. But I that the 271 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: idea that they could go somewhere and have more resources 272 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: and do more I think that that's worth potentially worth 273 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: more than even money, and that that could be what 274 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: the Pack twelves actual problem is. Is that is that 275 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: the lack of resources comparatively to other schools is the issue. 276 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: You're not I mean, you're not wrong. I think at 277 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: the end of the day, what is the direct impact 278 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: for the for the Pack twelve year that they retain 279 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: all of the athletic directors that are in place. So 280 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: we're we're we're just saying that it's additioned by non subtraction. 281 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: These are both that you think, these are both programs 282 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: that are being managed appropriately. Yeah, yeah, I mean I 283 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: would think so. I mean, look at okay Um. Actually 284 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: I think not breaking the bank for Mike Leach I 285 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: think was the right thing to do Um moving on 286 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: from him, or allowing him to move on and replacing 287 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: him with Nick Rolovich I think was wise. I do 288 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: like what Cal is doing and building. They've had to 289 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: have a lot of transition underneath Justin Wilcox, but they 290 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: seem to have found a coach who is satisfied, not 291 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: looking to UM. Justin Wilcox doesn't strike me as somebody 292 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: who's overly ambitious or looking to the next thing. I 293 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: think he's a really good fit there. I think he's 294 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: working within Cal's limited financial means for the time being. Um. 295 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm judging both of these programs on 296 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: on football alone right now. UM, I don't know, I 297 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: don't know. It's it's always good too. It's always a 298 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: good feeling to know that somebody had the option to 299 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: go somewhere else and didn't take it right. But yeah, 300 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,239 Speaker 1: oh for sure, for sure, sometimes sometimes it's the right 301 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: move because if they if they do have a wandering 302 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: eye and you want to bring somebody in who maybe 303 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: has a fresh outlook and a full dedication to what 304 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: it is that you're trying to build. Yeah, like look 305 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: at the if you look at the athletic department revenue 306 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: from nineteen because obviously was thrown off UM Texas was 307 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: at two and twenty three million to three and and 308 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: my mind, you we don't have numbers for USC or 309 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,479 Speaker 1: for Stanford, but we know Stanford's not gonna be up 310 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: there USC potentially, right, But the highest packed twelve team 311 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: on the list was at one thirty three, and that 312 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: was Washington at number twenty three, and then Oregon at 313 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: twenty six at one seven. Arizona State, uh no, I'm sorry, 314 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: Oregon was at twenty six at one seven, and then 315 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: Arizona State was at twenty seven at one and then 316 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: U C l A all the way down at thirty 317 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: five at one oh eight, and then followed by Arizona, 318 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: then Utah and all of that. So you have a 319 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: few teams under a hundred million where you look at 320 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: the big ten schools there significantly like you. In the 321 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: top ten, you have Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State 322 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: all in the top ten, and then you're in the 323 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: big twelve you got Oklahoma and Texas, and then the 324 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: SEC you got Texas A and M number one, Georgia 325 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: number well, sorry Texas and them too, Georgia number five, 326 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: Alabama number seven, and then Florida and l s U 327 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: round out the top ten. So I think that that's 328 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: a problem when you look at resources for the conference, like, 329 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: that's gotta be the biggest thing. And then that led 330 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: us to Stu man Dale's article where he wrote an 331 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: article about saving the Pack twelve, like how to save 332 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve because I think the biggest issue is 333 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: a perception problem, right because um, he asked one of 334 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: the kids in the article, I think, you know, why 335 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: did you some of the kids who left the footprint 336 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: to go to other schools? Why they they left? And 337 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: one of them said that, oh, because I'm trying to 338 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: go to the league and I'm trying to go to 339 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: the college Football Playoff. But then when you look at 340 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: the NFL draft picks from twenty eleven, to aside from 341 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: the s SEC, you take the SEC out of it. 342 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: The A c C, which has fourteen teams, has had 343 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty picks fifty first rounders, the Big 344 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: Ten three fifty nine and forty five, the Pack twelve, three, 345 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: twenty three and forty four, which has the least, which 346 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: has less teams, and then the Big twelve at two, 347 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: twenty six and thirty three. But we're sitting here talking 348 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: about the Pack twelve does not have as many, uh 349 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: draft picks. It's it's or that you can't go to 350 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: the league. So that sounds like a perception problem to me, Ralph, Yeah, 351 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: it's a perception problem. But like there are concrete issues 352 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: that we can't we can't ignore. The Pack twelve gets 353 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: less money and is available in less homes and has 354 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: to combat with the thing that I'm brand new to 355 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: not being on at a reasonable hour for where you 356 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: know sixty percent of the country actually lives. Yeah, so 357 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: how are you going to fill with the Pack twelve 358 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: games finishing at two am? When when your alma mater, 359 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: Arizona State finishes at two am playing against Oregon State, 360 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: it's gonna be more. I mean, it's gonna be more 361 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: of the same. For me. I'm up that late anyway, Um, 362 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: because of you know, for for the longest time I 363 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 1: was at these games, covering these games, not getting home 364 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: until three four in the morning. It's sucks, right, Like 365 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: it's it's it's not a lot of fun. And I 366 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: you know, when when they talk about wanting to get 367 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: more visibility, so that's why they have these late kickoffs, 368 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: Visibility isn't necessarily quantified, like you should be looking at 369 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: the actual impact of having a captive audience, not being 370 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: on in empty bars and counting that as viewers. Yes, 371 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: and so I don't know, I just see I think 372 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: it's a no going no. I just I think that 373 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: the perception problem is gonna continue to exist so long 374 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: as you can't be seen. Well, that's why I think 375 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: that when comes along the PAC twel has to get 376 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: on CBS, being that, uh, the SEC is leaving CBS. 377 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: I think that that was one of their biggest draws, 378 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: right which was to think think about how this whole 379 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: thing is played. It played out where you have people 380 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: like Clay Travis talking about all the ESPN is the 381 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: mainstream media that there, uh it's so liberal, stop watching them, 382 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: that they're going broke, which which wasn't true. Right now, 383 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: they have bought the media rights to the SEC, so 384 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: all the people that he was pandering to now have 385 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: to go to their channel, go to their channel and 386 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: stay there all the time to watch their stuff, you 387 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So like it's almost so they 388 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: have then bought their way out of whatever people are 389 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: gonna say, because SEC is is God in the in 390 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: the in the in that part of the country. So 391 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: in football, I'm sorry, football is god in that part 392 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: of the country. It's their most important thing over over church. 393 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: So they will then be indoctrinated into whatever um ESPN 394 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: is putting out and pushing. So they made a move 395 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: there right but now, but you have to have cable 396 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: to have it or pay for their streaming service on 397 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: to be able to access some of the content. So 398 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: now the Pact twelve can move to CBS, which is 399 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: Basic television, and anybody who has Paramount Plus you're on 400 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: there too, so you can watch football. That I think 401 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: is the most important key, uh, which is being available. 402 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: And then the second thing is you have to win 403 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: your non conference matchups and bowl games like your biggest 404 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: ones like and and that. That doesn't mean when Oregon 405 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: State beats plays Ohio State like they did a couple 406 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: of years ago, that they need to win that game, 407 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: because they don't. But when you have Oregon play Auburn, 408 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: they needed to win that game. They lost it. At 409 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: the end this year you got Washington playing Michigan, Oregon 410 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 1: playing Ohio State, and then you have to win your 411 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: bowl games. Because over the last four years, the Pack 412 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: twelve is eight and seventeen eight and seventeen over and 413 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: the last one says, as Larry Scott says, it's better 414 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: to have appeared in the bowl and lost than to 415 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: have not appeared in the Bowl. No, he said, he 416 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: said it was better to have nine teams appear in 417 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: a bowl than to actually win those bowl games. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 418 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: So he's he's saying it would better be nine nine 419 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: teams go one and eight, which I think they went 420 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: that year two and seven, and then then have like 421 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: six teams go and go six and oh all right, 422 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: all right, make it, make it makes sense. So and 423 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: then you can't have Stanford go play UCF and get 424 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: absolutely boat raced like they did in twenty nineteen and 425 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: then U c l A. Granted they were in a 426 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: rebuilding phase, but and you can accept the Oklahoma loss, 427 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: but not the Cincinnati loss, or you know, the conference 428 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: can't be losing the fucking San Diego State. And and 429 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: then you can't have USC going oh and four against 430 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: Notre Dame uh USC and Stanford go oh and four 431 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: against Notre Dame in the last couple of years, Like 432 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: it's just you can't have it happened like those are 433 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: the I think that that's the beginning of the problem. 434 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess. I don't know, man, I feel 435 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: that in the San Diego State thing and everybody in 436 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: the FACT twelve, you might as well just bring San 437 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: Diego State into the middle. No, don't, don't do that. 438 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: Don't be one of them people, Ralph. So what your 439 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: your solution to not losing to San Diego State every 440 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: single year is to just stop losing? Yes, that's yes. 441 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: Why didn't they think of that? I mean, dude, dude, 442 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: that's like, that's like saying, what what is your solution 443 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: to to not waking up on times set an alarm? 444 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: Set to alarms? Like do something else? Like you can't, like, 445 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: those are games that you have to win. But most importantly, 446 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: most importantly, we've said it and we haven't said it 447 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: in months upon months, which is the PAC twelve needs 448 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: to have a fu attitude that it needs to have 449 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: a and it needs to have an F you attitude 450 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: about football. So that means that it's gonna have to 451 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: say f you to other people in the conference to 452 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: be like, nope, we're fixing football. Football is king h h, 453 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: Well it's not fair. So what so what that's That's 454 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like it's got to have the f 455 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: you attitude, like stop trying to pacify everybody. Oh, let's 456 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: make sure that everything is equal and right. No, the 457 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: equality for all the other sports comes with their funding, 458 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: which football funds and basketball funds. So take care of 459 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: football and then everybody else gets more. The This is 460 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: the n C double as the only place to trickle 461 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: down economics works even a little bit, which is is 462 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: a university. If if Oregon were to generate two hundred 463 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: and thirty million dollar dollars like Texas did, guess who's 464 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: gonna have some new dope ass stuff. The damn acrobatics 465 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: team they're gonna you know what I mean, like like 466 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: the uh, the the crew team, they might get something else. 467 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: The band is gonna get, you know, new cushions for 468 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: the for their But like you know, it trickles down 469 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: in college. It's not real life because of title nine. 470 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: So dude, like and that's where Larry Scott screwed up 471 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: is that he was a tennis dude. He thought he 472 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: could come over there and just you know, everything was 473 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: gonna be equal and we're gonna find a way to 474 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: make all these things important. No, football is most important. 475 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: So when it comes to paying salaries, the average head 476 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: coach salary and the SEC is five point six million. 477 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: The Pack twelve is the least with three point five million. 478 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: And even bigger than that is the assistant pool salary. 479 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: The average assistant pool salary in the SEC six point 480 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: to the Big ten four point eight a C C 481 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: four six, Big twelve four four and then the Pack 482 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: twelve three point nine. And you wonder why a dude 483 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: like coach k coach kid with task, however you say, 484 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: it leaves Washington being their defensive coordinator to go to 485 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: UH Texas and double hits salary. I wonder why, So, 486 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: what's your number? What's your number one thing that they 487 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: could do tomorrow to to fix the Pack twelve, save 488 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve, set the Pack twelve up for success? 489 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: What would be the one thing for you that it 490 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: all boils down to. Do you need to adopt the 491 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: WWF attitude era? Like I was watching UH there's this 492 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: documentary on Stone Coast Steve Auston on A and E. 493 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: It just came out and I and I was a 494 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: huge wrestling fan and I knew it was important, but 495 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that he's probably the most important wrestler 496 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: that the WWF W slash w w E has ever had. 497 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: That he ushered in that attitude era where you know, 498 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: because he started off as like stunning, stunning uh stone 499 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: Cold and or stunning Steve Austin and that wasn't him. 500 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: He had to adopt a like yo like and then 501 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: all the other wrestlers followed suit and we're like, yo, 502 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: this is who I am, this is my personality, this 503 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: is my gimmick. I'm rolling with it full full speed. 504 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: And so I think that changing the mentality it's probably 505 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: most important because in anything else in life, right, you 506 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: have to change your mentality before you can change any 507 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: anything else. And I think the same is true at 508 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve that the mentality has to go first, 509 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: and then you have to put football first as you're 510 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: a g day, and then you have to find a 511 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: way to get more available availability over money in the 512 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: short term. So those are that those are my uh 513 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: so that's my platform. That's how I'm running for PACK 514 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: twelve commissioner. I think for me it's you have the 515 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: tools there for the PAC twelve network, but I think 516 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: you have to make a sharp turn away from live 517 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: sports into essentially propaganda promoting the athletes first and foremost. 518 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: I think you use the tools that you have available 519 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: to you and the schools that are affiliated with you 520 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: to bring as many journalism students on board with the 521 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: overall conference coverage as possible, and you use the network 522 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: to tell the stories of your current athletes, of your 523 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: current coaches, and of your um ni and you use 524 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: that to differentiate yourself from the rest of everything else 525 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: that's out there that if you come here, we will 526 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: use our media arm to prepare you, to put you 527 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: out essentially like this is who I am. You know, 528 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: if there are any companies out there that that that 529 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: feel like I can help your brand, like, let's get 530 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: on top of that. And the same goes for the 531 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: same goes for just like social media presence. Right now, 532 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,479 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve website is stripped down to bare bones 533 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: because they laid everybody off, and so they're just aggregating. 534 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,719 Speaker 1: I talked to Andrew Hawtner about this. They're just aggregating 535 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: what all the team sites are putting out through their 536 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: own sports information directors, and they're just linking to it. 537 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: So media coverage of the Pack twelve from the Pack 538 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: twelve itself is at an all time low, which you 539 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: had a person in charge of running an entire network 540 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: to make sure that that wouldn't happen. So now you're 541 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: not only falling behind in money and visibility, but you're 542 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 1: falling behind in your ability to promote your own athletes. Yep, 543 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 1: that's like that's a recipe for absolute destruction and um 544 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: so that that would be my Yeah, if you can't 545 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: promote your own self then yeah, Like do you know 546 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: how Apple Music does those curated playlists, Like they'll get 547 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: two or three celebrities every single day to say, here 548 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: are the twenty songs that I'm listening to, right Yeah. Yeah, 549 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: there's absolutely no reason why you can't get Aaron Rodgers 550 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: to be like, hey, here are my five favorite packs 551 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: hoel of quarterbacks right now? Yeah? And then do you 552 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: know what the craziest part about all of that is 553 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: is that then you're preparing for a name, image and likeness, 554 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: right and like because it's coming. So if players know, 555 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: if you build their brand, then that's gonna help you 556 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: recruit on the West Coast, it's gonna help you recruit. 557 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: And then the other part that that I thought that 558 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: stew was really right about in his article on the 559 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: athletic is you have to be a a a crazy 560 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: person outside in the world pushing expansion in the college 561 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 1: football playoffs. You have to because until you get your 562 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: other problem fixed, you must fix your access, like you 563 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: cannot let them keep leaving you out. So so like 564 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,439 Speaker 1: every major conference should have a report. If you're gonna 565 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: have five major conferences and it's ultimately a college football 566 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: playoff and you added championship games, why would you not 567 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: Why would you not include the winner of a conference 568 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: in an ultimate college football playoff? Exactly? It's it's insanity. 569 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: Every other division does this. I think you give the 570 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: number one and number two team in the country, and 571 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: I know that there's some people who want eight. I 572 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: want eight. Eight would be fine, But it would be 573 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: completely feasible to me to give the number one and 574 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: the number two team in the country. The number one 575 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: of the number two team in the country get a 576 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: first round by just like how NFL playoffs have worked 577 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: in the opening round um for the longest time. And 578 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: I know that they're been switched up recently, and I'm 579 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: not sure I fully even grasp I'm always for more football. Um. 580 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: But for the longest time it was six teams in 581 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 1: the top four played each other or the bottom four 582 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: played each other while the top two got a week off. 583 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: So I don't like you could die one upsets. Like 584 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 1: I want to have the number one team in the country, 585 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: if it's Alabama, Ohio State, Oregon, Oklahoma, whoever it is, 586 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: I want them playing against since an attie, I want 587 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: them playing against UCF because one of these times it 588 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: ain't gonna happen every time, but one of these times 589 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: they're going to absolutely get upset them out that we 590 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: have more likely. It would be more likely if you 591 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: always said, hey, the FCS gets one team or not FCS, 592 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: the group of five, group of five gets one team 593 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: into the college football playoffs every single year, just one, 594 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: and you always made them a six seed and you 595 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: had them face off against the three, then the likelihood 596 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: of there actually being some form of upset is a 597 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: lot greater than if you just roll one through eight 598 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: and stick them at the bottom, which is where they 599 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: would be. Well. The the issue with six is is 600 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: that sometimes the best teams in the like the like 601 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: two of the best teams in the nation are from 602 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: the same conference. So I think that you have to 603 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: have at least, you know, those two at large bit 604 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: so you get the five Power five champions, you get 605 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: the who get the one to five seeds, and then 606 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: you have the two Power five. Then you have the 607 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: two at large bids plus the highest ranked nine Power 608 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 1: high highest ranked group of five teams and they get 609 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: that that uh an automatic bid as well. So I 610 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: guess my question would be what happens with Notre Dame 611 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: every single year? Would they want would they knock a 612 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: group of five out? Or would they know they can 613 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: they can take one of the at large bids? Okay, yeah, 614 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm for it. It's more it's more football, but I 615 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: actually helps in the Notre Dame. I love the idea 616 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: of the top group of five team being involved in 617 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: the mix. I absolutely love it. And I really really 618 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: liked the idea of all five power conferences guaranteeing that 619 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: they at least have one team um be be part 620 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 1: of the action. I think that that's fantastic. Um, while 621 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: we're at it, expand bowl games to be available to 622 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: everyone because they're essentially meaningless anyway, um oh no oh God, no, Ralph, no, 623 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: no no oh. Bowl games for everybody. Participation trophies. Absolutely not. 624 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: What do you think the Las Vegas Bowl is? Now? 625 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: What do you think the New Mexico Bowl is? Just 626 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: will just add in a regular season game where you 627 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: can schedule whoever you want like that that way, because 628 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: the bowl games, the best part about the bowl games 629 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: where the coaches is not the actual bowl game. It's 630 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 1: the bowl practice for the younger players, right, So you 631 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: make it available. But that's what I'm saying is it 632 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 1: makes it a lot easier to get some of these 633 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: teams out of the basement. It might be the only 634 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: thing that actually slows down transfer culture both in the 635 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 1: and it would put everybody on the same schedule as 636 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: far as hirings and firings of coaches. If you got everybody, 637 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: think about everything that would be helped if you got 638 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: everyone on the same schedule of like how you know, 639 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: like NBA free agency starts on on you know, like 640 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: June or whatever, Like there's a start date for it, 641 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: so like free agency for college coaches and assistance, you 642 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: could get everybody on the same page if everybody was 643 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: playing through a certain date. I am all for expanding 644 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: bowl availability to everybody, even if it's a toilet bowl, 645 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: even if it's to one in ten teams who just 646 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: agree that, hey, we need fifteen more practices. We want 647 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: to make sure that we stick to a nationwide calendar 648 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 1: of win. Coaches are allowed to actually jump from school 649 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: to school or interview from job to job, um, so 650 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 1: that we can get a little bit of a handle 651 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: on how crazy the transfer culture has become and how 652 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: many kids get screwed over by the fact that coaches 653 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: jumped to a new job the day after signing day. 654 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 1: We you, I think that everything should be I think 655 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: that they should be working to get ahead of problems 656 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: instead of just watching things get more and more out 657 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: of control. And so if you had a coaching free 658 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: agency and interview period before signing day so that everybody 659 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: is going to kind of land where they're gonna land, 660 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: and then you move into a two week period of 661 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,439 Speaker 1: recruiting in which the late signing day happens, um, then 662 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: maybe there'd be more focused on the late signing day 663 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,399 Speaker 1: instead of the early signing day, and we'd go back 664 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 1: to go back to normal a little bit, so so 665 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: kids would actually know it's okay if I wait to 666 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: sign because I'm not going to know who my coaches are. 667 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: Otherwise put some power back in the hands of the 668 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: kids and that and that way just keeps everybody Because 669 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: getting everybody that extra practice time, I think we'll make 670 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: the product better overall. Yeah, I really do. And so 671 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. You might hate the idea, And of 672 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: course you're not gonna watch one in ten f a 673 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: U against you know two and nine Kent State. You're 674 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: not going to watch that. But those kids in those 675 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: programs could get better and you could work to keep 676 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: everybody on the same schedule, which is I think one 677 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: of the biggest needs for college for ball right now 678 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: on the whole is just to not have teams finished 679 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: super early and have those coaches be able to look 680 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: for jobs while super successful teams can't have their coaches 681 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,720 Speaker 1: out in the marketplace because they're still trying to focus 682 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: six weeks after somebody else season ended on the bowl 683 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 1: game that they have coming up. You know what. That 684 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: feels more like amateur athletics. So actually like that idea, 685 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: I don't I don't hate that idea, Ralph. I think 686 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: that that's actually reason reasonable. It's we should have like 687 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: a noise or a chime every time I talk you 688 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: into something that this would be like the third time 689 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: we ever used it. Um. Yeah. So there was some 690 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: super interesting um the news and a quote from Kyle Whittingham, 691 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,919 Speaker 1: keig coach at Utah, and I think it's surprised Ralph. 692 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: He was like, yo, I didn't realize that this was 693 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,399 Speaker 1: so So here is what Kyle Bingham had to say. 694 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: We're used to having a chip on our shoulder. That's 695 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 1: what we that's how we succeeded before we got in 696 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: the pack twelve. I mean, we had had that same 697 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 1: mentality and and if people want to overlook us, that's great. Uh. 698 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 1: You know, we've been able to We've been in the 699 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: league ten years and we've been able to win the 700 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 1: South three of those ten years, which is I think 701 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 1: tied for the most of anybody in the in the South. 702 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 1: And so we feel admit two of the last three 703 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,720 Speaker 1: years we've we've won the South. And so we feel 704 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: that we're getting some traction in this league and we're 705 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: gonna be able to compete at a high level. And 706 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: and you know, the one thing is is, uh, in 707 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,919 Speaker 1: the ten years we've been in the league, there's only 708 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: three teams that have won the entire Pack twelve and 709 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: they're all from the North. It was you know, Oregon 710 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 1: and Stanford and Washington traded off winning the winning the title, 711 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: so it's about time for the for the South to 712 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: win one. And you know we are mentalities. Why not us? 713 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 1: So Ralph, something stood out to you and that, huh, 714 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: There was a couple of things. Well, first of all, 715 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,839 Speaker 1: I just liked the attitude, um of him saying, look, 716 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: we've we've been in the league ten years, We've won 717 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: the South three times. If you want to overlook us 718 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,359 Speaker 1: like that, good, that's to our advantage. That's how we've 719 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: won the South three different times. Um, he said. You 720 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: know what, So I think when in two out of 721 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: the last three years, shows we're getting some traction in 722 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: this league. Um. But the thing that stood out to 723 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: me that I don't know if it just I had 724 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,760 Speaker 1: spaced it, but he said that since Utah has been 725 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve, only three teams have won the 726 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: Pack twelve and that's split between Stanford, Washington and Oregon. 727 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: No Pack twelve South team has won a Pack twelve 728 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: championship in the last decade. And I don't know if 729 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: it's slipped my mind, but I just kind of realizing 730 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: this information for the first time listening to Kyle Whittingham 731 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: talk just now. Yeah, dude, Like, if you really think 732 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: think about it, the only teams that have won the 733 00:44:55,320 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 1: conference in the last ten years have been Oregon a 734 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 1: few times, like three, three or four times, uh, Stanford 735 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: as one, and then you had Washington win once, right 736 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,879 Speaker 1: like or or Washington won twice either either away, it's 737 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: been completely dominated. Like every time that they get in 738 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 1: a pack twelve championship, you already know what's happening. You 739 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: already know what's happening in the championship game. So um wait, 740 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: it's how about the year that USC the year that 741 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 1: USC and Sam Donald, how about that year? You have 742 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: to look that up. I'm gonna have to look that 743 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: up because yeah, I mean they weren't under sanctions or 744 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: anything like, they were done with that by that time, 745 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: right Yeah, so yeah, no you okay, So USC won 746 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: the championship in seventeen. I was like, hold up, that 747 00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: didn't make makes sense. Yeah, they won in twenties seven 748 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: team because that's when they went to the UM. They 749 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 1: played Ohio State in the Cotton Bowl and they got 750 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 1: beat up. You're right, they beat They beat Stanford UM 751 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: in the PACTOL Championship. Yeah, I don't know what the 752 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: hell I'm is talking about. I will say that he's 753 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,919 Speaker 1: his evidence that they're going to be good this year 754 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,839 Speaker 1: is other people thinking they're not going to be good, 755 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 1: which is how they continue to surprise is Um. It's 756 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,280 Speaker 1: kind of funny because he's basically the saying like, hey, 757 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: why don't you guys learn your lessons, like stop underestimating us, 758 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: because if this is how you end up getting your 759 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: ass kicked? Yeah, well, like how can you possibly say that? Well? Okay, 760 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 1: So my thing with what Kyle Whittingham said was, Okay, 761 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: you have to be able to recruit at a higher 762 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,320 Speaker 1: level in Utah. If you want people to take you seriously, 763 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 1: you you can't be playing the underdog role. You mean, like, 764 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 1: if you're consistently playing the underdog, that doesn't work. I 765 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 1: mean yeah, And I think his point is like, we're 766 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: not trying to play the underdog. You keep making us 767 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: the underdog and it ends with you getting your ass 768 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:23,839 Speaker 1: kid So like, if you guys want to underestimate us 769 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 1: again this year, then we're just gonna come out and 770 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 1: we're gonna try to win the PacTel South for the 771 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,839 Speaker 1: third time in fourth years. Why not? Why why not? 772 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:36,399 Speaker 1: Us yep? Um? And as I was looking at Pack 773 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: twelve champions, I was looking at four out of the 774 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 1: last five Pack twelve champions have lost their ball game. 775 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 1: Why do you think that is because it's you're fresh 776 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: off ten conference games? Um? Uh No. I think that 777 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: Washington played Alabama, which was a disaster, that was a mismatch, 778 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 1: but I actually thought that they could have in the game. 779 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:07,240 Speaker 1: I thought Jake Browning played it's exceptionally poor. Um. And 780 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: you know USC Ohio State that wasn't close. It should 781 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 1: have been better. And then Washington lost to Ohio State 782 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: in the Rose Bowl too, that game should have been 783 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: um that I was at that game or how State 784 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: pretty much dominated the game, Washington kind of came back late, 785 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,240 Speaker 1: and then Oregon won the Rose Bowl. And then Oregon 786 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: just did not show up essentially against the uh in 787 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: the Fiesta Bowl this year against Iowa State, turnovers all 788 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 1: over the place. UM. So you know, it's hard when 789 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: you don't recruit at an elite level. It's it's just 790 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,320 Speaker 1: difficult for people to take you seriously. And it also 791 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 1: um like it like how can you possibly win a 792 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 1: national championship right if one of your best teams who 793 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 1: can consistently win doesn't have you know, a ton of 794 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 1: elite talent. I think that that's another issue, you know 795 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:16,320 Speaker 1: what I mean? Yes, And so now you have me. 796 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: You have me going back in the history of Washington 797 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,919 Speaker 1: in bowl games, and I don't know if you knew this, 798 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 1: but they only have two bowl wins against other Power 799 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 1: five opponents in the last twenty years. What yeah, because 800 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 1: they just they just beat the two years a living 801 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 1: hell out of Boise State in the in the Las 802 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 1: Vegas Bowl. Their previous Bowl win before that was in 803 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 1: against Southern miss that they were bad for a while, 804 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 1: and then before that they beat b y U in 805 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 1: So their last Bowl win against another Power five opponent 806 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 1: was in seven against Nebraska. And the one before that 807 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 1: you have to go all the way back to two 808 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 1: thousand where they beat per Due in the Rose Bowl. 809 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 1: So there Due, I guess that there were one every 810 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 1: ten years their Due. Yeah, they have. What's what's wild 811 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 1: is they have been since nine they have been to 812 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 1: five Rose Bowls, which has got to be really frustrating 813 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 1: for University of Arizona fans like that, like, are they 814 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 1: the only team that hasn't played in a Rose Bowl 815 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: in the back twelve? Okay, so Washington State clearly has 816 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,320 Speaker 1: Oregon State. I'm not sure if Oregon State has because 817 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: when they won the championship, they played I'm sorry, yeah, 818 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 1: in two thousands they won when we split it with him. Um, 819 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 1: they played Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl and they 820 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: beat the hell out of Notre Dame. Oregon State has 821 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 1: played in the Rose Bowl twice. Nineteen fifty seven, lost 822 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 1: to Iowa in a nineteen lost to Michigan. Yep, that 823 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:36,800 Speaker 1: makes sense. Interesting, that genuinely makes me wonder if because 824 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not sure if Colorado would have 825 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 1: ever even had a chance to play in the um 826 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: in the Rose Bowl coming from the Big twelve. Um. Oh, 827 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 1: that's a good point because it's always big ten, pack twelve. 828 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:05,840 Speaker 1: So I'm checking. I'm checking right now. Uh No, they have. 829 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 1: So Colorado has never played in a Rose Bowl. They 830 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 1: have played in the Fiesta Bowls several times. Um. They 831 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 1: lost to Oregon in the Fiesta Bowl in two thousand one. Um, 832 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 1: I was on that team. Yeah, there you go. In 833 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 1: front of seventy five thousand people. Uh down in what 834 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 1: was the Where was the game tempe Um? Yes, it 835 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:37,400 Speaker 1: was in Tempe. I caught it. I caught one pass 836 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 1: for five yards in that game. Had a torn hamstring still, 837 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 1: but uh, that was an excellent game. But that that game, 838 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 1: honestly is source of a lot of bitterness for me 839 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,160 Speaker 1: because we were number two in the a P Pole 840 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 1: in the USA Today Pole, but then they put in 841 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,840 Speaker 1: Nebraska because they had a Heisman Trophy winner in the 842 00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 1: BCS magical formula had them at number two despite us 843 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,839 Speaker 1: being number two in every single poll. Yeah, I see, 844 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm seeing that a P two coaches to BCS four. Yeah. 845 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,479 Speaker 1: And then they got beat and they had just got beat. Uh, 846 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 1: Nebraska just got beat sixty three to thirty six in 847 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: the Big twelve Championship and they made and they made 848 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 1: the against Colorado and they made the ball game. I 849 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 1: was like what. And then then you get a three 850 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 1: touchdown win over Colorado, which is ranked ahead of you 851 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 1: in the BCS. Yes, man, BCS was a joke. And 852 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,800 Speaker 1: then Nebraska got their ass whooped. Yes, so you're saying 853 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,839 Speaker 1: so you're saying that you deserved you deserved Miami. Yes, 854 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 1: we deserved Miami. Would you have beat that Miami team 855 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,759 Speaker 1: that was a serious team, that was that was a 856 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 1: fantastic team. Why not us? Why not us? That that's 857 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: all I'll say. Okay, Kyle some Kyle Whittingham. Yeah, so, 858 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 1: um uh, spring ball is in full swing for all 859 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 1: the teams right now except um has Arizona State finished yet? Yes, 860 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 1: they were the first to play their spring game. Yeah. 861 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,360 Speaker 1: They always start super early so the coaches can go 862 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,839 Speaker 1: out and recruit players from every single state that they're 863 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:23,839 Speaker 1: not gonna get but um, and and and and give 864 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 1: out five hundred offers. But yeah, um, okay, do you 865 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 1: think they're closer to five hundred or four hundred right now? 866 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,879 Speaker 1: Because I think you're I think you're exaggerating. I think 867 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,799 Speaker 1: they're closer to four hundred, but they're probably gonna get 868 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:44,359 Speaker 1: to five hundred. That's faffy, really funny, because I mean, 869 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 1: they've got to be I would have to go back 870 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: and find out, like what the record is. I would 871 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 1: have to think that they've offered more people in than 872 00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 1: any packed twelve team in history. Would you would you 873 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,359 Speaker 1: say that? I mean there was a couple of years 874 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 1: where Oregon, of course they do. Yes, they're offering more 875 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 1: than any team Impact twelve history. It's not clubs. So 876 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:15,359 Speaker 1: how many offers have they put out this year? Okay? Um, 877 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 1: for the year. This can't be right. Something must have 878 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:24,719 Speaker 1: got cleaned up because they were close to according to rivals, 879 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:32,319 Speaker 1: class of they are currently offered. Oh, that's one we're 880 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 1: looking at. We're looking for two. Oh okay, so how 881 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 1: many okay, three hundred and nine. The next offer to 882 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:57,320 Speaker 1: a prospect, I'm gonna tweet that out. The next offer 883 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:03,720 Speaker 1: to prospect will be the four hundred. Dude, that's sick. 884 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 1: Four hundred. There are only twenty five spots. You're offering 885 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 1: four hundred kids. Uh, yep, casting cat casting a wide, 886 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,320 Speaker 1: wide net. And then as soon as one of them commits, 887 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: you'll they'll they'll take the commits and then all of 888 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 1: a sudden there be like, oh, yeah, we we we 889 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 1: have to drop kids. But in the age of the portal, 890 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 1: in the age of the portal, four hundred offers is wild. 891 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,799 Speaker 1: But since you're since you're since you're being a hater, uh, 892 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 1: Oregon has offered two hundred and thirty one. That's still 893 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:43,239 Speaker 1: ten times more than you can take. That sounds like 894 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 1: a reasonable number for a team in the Pacific North Northwest, 895 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 1: and considering that, you know, probably thirty of those offers 896 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:58,680 Speaker 1: are committable, you know, and you know we shall see, 897 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:03,840 Speaker 1: uh universe say of Washington, though they got some terrible news, 898 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 1: some absolutely terrible news. Uh. There best player on their team, 899 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,080 Speaker 1: the dude who lead the nation in sacks per game. 900 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 1: Uh ztf is Zion Tupolu? Wait? How do how do 901 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 1: I say say his name? I'm gonna know. I'm gonna 902 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 1: let your hang with this one to see where this 903 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:38,880 Speaker 1: is going. Zion tupola Um, No, no, no, that's actually 904 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 1: pretty pretty easy. I played with Chris fool to my 905 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 1: father and I got that one pretty easy. Um. But 906 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 1: it's different when you read it than when you hear it, 907 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 1: though at least it is for me. Um. Jimmy Lake 908 00:57:55,640 --> 00:58:00,040 Speaker 1: said his return timetable is six to ten months, and 909 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 1: and they were like, yeah, the best case scenario is 910 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 1: for him to return by the end of October, just 911 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 1: in time for the Oregon game. I was like, listen, 912 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 1: slow down, six to ten months. If any responsible doctor, 913 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 1: they're not going to let you be out six months 914 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 1: with an achilles injury and then step back in it 915 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 1: and immediately be playing like actually a doctor may let 916 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 1: you do it, but it but but if you're zt F, 917 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 1: You're like, no, now, I'll see you next season player, 918 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 1: because like, this is it. He's a first round NFL 919 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 1: draft prospect. I'm not coming back just to just to 920 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 1: quote unquote help the team and potentially jeopardize my future 921 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 1: or put out some bad film because I'm not a 922 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:58,280 Speaker 1: healthy No way, buddy, I will. I would. I would 923 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: be willing to bet there is about a zero percent 924 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:06,160 Speaker 1: chance that we see him any time before before a 925 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 1: Bowl game. If that even happens, well, then achilles achilles. 926 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 1: I feel like it's not an injury we see too often. Um, 927 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 1: that's a year, dude, it's a year. It's a year. 928 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 1: But I'm trying to think of some of the famous 929 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 1: achilles injuries in pass rushers. You got Terrell Suggs. I 930 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:38,520 Speaker 1: guess he he famously tore his achilles playing basketball, playing 931 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 1: playing pick up or actually like men's league basketball, like 932 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 1: men's church league basketball in Arizona, um and and he 933 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 1: was pretty far along in his career when that happened. 934 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 1: I think he was. That was he came back, had 935 00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 1: eight sacks the next year eleven, the year after that. 936 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Um So, I mean you never know, um it, you know, 937 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:10,920 Speaker 1: as long as health is the only thing that really matters. Um, 938 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 1: do you think we'll ever see him in a in 939 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: a Washington Huskies uniform ever? Again? Absolutely absolutely, I think 940 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 1: we see him, Uh not for this season. I think 941 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,520 Speaker 1: we see him in two. You don't think he just 942 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 1: focuses on training and declares he's put put some good 943 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 1: stuff on. That's entirely possible, Dude, That's entirely possible, and 944 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,920 Speaker 1: that maybe his move like that, Actually maybe the option 945 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 1: that he takes. He's like, Yo, I've put down some 946 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 1: good film. Let me focus on getting healthy. I'll put 947 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,360 Speaker 1: up a good pro day. They've seen all my film. 948 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 1: I saw how opt outs were received this year. Yeah, 949 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,640 Speaker 1: this isn't This would be no different than what Joey 950 01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 1: Bosa did or Eachever Joey Joseph whichever one at Ohio 951 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 1: State where he played a grand total like thirty seconds 952 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,440 Speaker 1: and there was a number two overall draffic Um do 953 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 1: you what do you think of him as a prospect 954 01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:18,280 Speaker 1: if he does decide to come out, because George, he 955 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 1: this is a big gass linebacker, Like this is This 956 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,360 Speaker 1: is to the point where it's like, is he even 957 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:32,360 Speaker 1: a linebacker? The so you think he's like a three 958 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 1: or four edge like sugs, yes, yes, six three to 959 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:43,120 Speaker 1: eight Yeah, yeah, yeah, they'll they'll they'll slim him down 960 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,920 Speaker 1: slightly and then or they'll or they'll put him in 961 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 1: as a four three m put his hand in the dirt, 962 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 1: so he'll either get down to like two six five 963 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 1: or put him at leave him at two eighty and 964 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 1: let him play in a four three defensive end. I 965 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 1: hate injuries so much. Um, I was really looking forward 966 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:12,680 Speaker 1: to I I considered him a top five returning player. 967 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,920 Speaker 1: You you had to do. He was dominating. He was dominating. 968 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 1: So this is a huge blow, truthfully to to Washington 969 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:28,280 Speaker 1: because they have had so many defections from the team 970 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 1: out of the wide receiver room. You don't know exactly 971 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 1: what's going on with this team at all. So yeah, 972 01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:41,280 Speaker 1: so I don't know, um uh. Though, we will see 973 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:46,240 Speaker 1: a bunch of transfer quarterbacks potentially starting in the Pac 974 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:51,440 Speaker 1: twelve though. This year we got Charlie Brewer at Utah 975 01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 1: transferred from Baylor, and it looks like he may start 976 01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:01,240 Speaker 1: out there because um, what's his name? You Cameron rising. 977 01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 1: He got her last year chance to playing spring either. Yeah. So, 978 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:11,360 Speaker 1: and then so Charlie Brewer, who's been a starter, comes in, 979 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 1: gets basically no competition in the in the springtime. He'll 980 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:21,760 Speaker 1: know the offense coming in the fall. I I think 981 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,280 Speaker 1: that it's his job to to lose at Utah. So 982 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:30,800 Speaker 1: and then you have Jared Guarantano who transferred from Tennessee 983 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,920 Speaker 1: up to Washington State. I do not think he is 984 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,280 Speaker 1: the best quarterback on that roster, but we we have 985 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 1: to remain We have to keep an eye on that 986 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 1: roster to see if the best quarterback will remain on 987 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 1: that roster. Can you do me a favor because I 988 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,480 Speaker 1: know that you and I wanted to talk about Colorado's 989 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,640 Speaker 1: quarterback situation. Can you can you google this for me? 990 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 1: I want to see if your Google results in my 991 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 1: Google results are the same, because I'm about to take 992 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:59,520 Speaker 1: up issue with with Google dot com. Um, just google 993 01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,840 Speaker 1: colorad out a football roster and let me know what 994 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 1: you see on the top row. Because usually when you 995 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:09,360 Speaker 1: google uh college football team's roster, you get a bunch 996 01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 1: of um photos from like the official team site or 997 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:19,320 Speaker 1: action shots of the players at the very top. Yeah, yeah, 998 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:25,560 Speaker 1: what's the third one on your end? Lavontat and is 999 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:29,680 Speaker 1: it a picture of him in a football uniform? No, 1000 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 1: it it looks like a mug shot. It is a 1001 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,200 Speaker 1: mug shot. Okay, so we're seeing the same thing. I 1002 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:39,960 Speaker 1: google Colorado football roster and it has Antonio Alfano, who 1003 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,920 Speaker 1: I think did he leave? He left? Okay? Sam Noyer, 1004 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,960 Speaker 1: who is I think hurt right now? And that's who 1005 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 1: we're talking about. And then lavont mug shot. Why why 1006 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 1: do they do this? They're the most famous people from 1007 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,320 Speaker 1: from the saying are you are you telling me there's 1008 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:05,479 Speaker 1: no picture of a there's no picture of alontational, not 1009 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:11,040 Speaker 1: in a in a police station. Well, I think they 1010 01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:16,160 Speaker 1: pull what's most relevant to them. Okay, so I did usc. 1011 01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:24,280 Speaker 1: I did USC. I got Keaton Slobe is now half funga, 1012 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:30,400 Speaker 1: Drake London, and Elijah Griffin. Okay, that's reasonable. They're all 1013 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 1: in football garb um. Oh I did U c l A. 1014 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:41,240 Speaker 1: Guess guess who I got? Okay, I got Jerry new 1015 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:49,600 Speaker 1: Hail first. Yes, it is football uniform. Yes, I guess right. 1016 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,560 Speaker 1: Justin die Or Combs, Puffy's kid, who has not been 1017 01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:58,439 Speaker 1: on the team since Puffy tried to fight Sally Loci Well, 1018 01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:03,680 Speaker 1: I tried to murder Alamosi with a kettlebell. Yes, Um, 1019 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:14,080 Speaker 1: Dietrich Riley they got in football? Who is staying? It's 1020 01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:22,280 Speaker 1: a oh, there's there's another man, Man Fro, I somebody, Um, okay, 1021 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:28,439 Speaker 1: so let's see year old man Stephen Manfro running back. 1022 01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:36,080 Speaker 1: All right, Oregon went c J Verdell, Cyrus Cirius and B. B. 1023 01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,720 Speaker 1: B Lechio no longer with the team. Yeah, but but 1024 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,240 Speaker 1: he was on the roster last year, so that's reasonable. 1025 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:49,840 Speaker 1: Eric Dungee. And then not even a picture, but a 1026 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:54,200 Speaker 1: jersey of Henry Cattleman, the walk on place kicker. Who's 1027 01:06:54,240 --> 01:07:00,360 Speaker 1: the kicker? Now? Okay? So I just did Arizona States 1028 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,400 Speaker 1: and the and the player. Here's the players that appear 1029 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,400 Speaker 1: across the top. Jade Daniels, current quarterback, Jordan Clark, Ryan 1030 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:11,760 Speaker 1: Clark's son, current corner or Shod White, running back, Chips Seraphim, 1031 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,880 Speaker 1: the offensive lineman who was a walk on I believe, 1032 01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,320 Speaker 1: who came out as gay and was the first openly 1033 01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:24,560 Speaker 1: gay n C double A roster player, Um, Michael you 1034 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:29,320 Speaker 1: Bank who famously lost out on the quarterback competition to 1035 01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:33,280 Speaker 1: Taylor Kelly and Mike BERKOVICI and Jackson Hood who has 1036 01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 1: not been on the team in seven years. This is uh, 1037 01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, Uh, I don't know what's algorithm is 1038 01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:48,120 Speaker 1: doing here. So I did Washington, right, Washington gave me 1039 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:54,240 Speaker 1: z t f okay, Elijah Molden okay to two for 1040 01:07:54,320 --> 01:08:01,520 Speaker 1: two right right? Then they gave me Nick Montana, who 1041 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,120 Speaker 1: is Joe Montennesota who hasn't been up been up there 1042 01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:11,160 Speaker 1: and like three three hundred sundays probably um actually long 1043 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:15,360 Speaker 1: longer than that. Uh and Cole Sager, who is a 1044 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:24,280 Speaker 1: thirty one year old CrossFit athlete. Dude, our podcast consistently 1045 01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:31,320 Speaker 1: devolved derails. Now I just can't stop. Now, University of 1046 01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:36,000 Speaker 1: Arizona has has like the five of the first six 1047 01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:41,640 Speaker 1: are no longer on the team, including Davante Neil. Uh. Yeah, 1048 01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,479 Speaker 1: what what is the point of even having this if 1049 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,559 Speaker 1: it's not going to be updated for years and years? 1050 01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,680 Speaker 1: But also why have somebody's mug shot? Somebody at some 1051 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:55,160 Speaker 1: point had to make a choice. No, that's just what 1052 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:59,479 Speaker 1: Google has done because they've calculated it so many times. 1053 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:04,080 Speaker 1: Because apparently there aren't enough articles about these these people, 1054 01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:09,639 Speaker 1: Like if I go um l s U football, right, yeah, 1055 01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,799 Speaker 1: they give me Max Johnson, who's a current quarterback, Derek 1056 01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:18,679 Speaker 1: Stateley Jr. Current player, Clive's Edwards Hilaire, and then Keenan 1057 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 1: Dunn whoever that person is, well, I mean Utah's. Utah's 1058 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:33,840 Speaker 1: number one result is Shariff Shaw Jr. Do you remember him? 1059 01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:42,240 Speaker 1: He's twenty seven now? Yeah? And uh and Cooper Bateman. 1060 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,519 Speaker 1: This is this is too much. This is a nice 1061 01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:53,000 Speaker 1: little thing we've discovered here. I will say that, like, 1062 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:58,679 Speaker 1: there's gotta be someone we can email to just be like, hey, um, 1063 01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:07,439 Speaker 1: channel plays football. Yeah, alright, Um, okay, so I guess 1064 01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,599 Speaker 1: and now we can get back to what we were 1065 01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:13,879 Speaker 1: talking about. I don't know what we're talking about. We 1066 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:19,759 Speaker 1: were we were talking about spring Colorado, Colorado's quarterback situation. Yes, okay, 1067 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:27,240 Speaker 1: so Colorado had Sam Neuer last year. He played really well. Um, 1068 01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:31,559 Speaker 1: but University of Tennessee quarterback J. T. Shrout transferred in 1069 01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,360 Speaker 1: and they seem to think that he has a really 1070 01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:39,320 Speaker 1: good shot at supplanting Sam Neuyer because Sam Neuyer has 1071 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 1: been out for for spring and Shroud has looked really good. 1072 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,920 Speaker 1: So you could have you could technically have a lot 1073 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:51,880 Speaker 1: of the pack twelve. Uh, have transfer quarterbacks come in 1074 01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,760 Speaker 1: and take over, because if you look at University of Arizona, 1075 01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:59,679 Speaker 1: Gunner Cruise has an opportunity to potentially supplant Will Plumber 1076 01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,040 Speaker 1: Um and then you have J. T. Shrout, and then 1077 01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:10,800 Speaker 1: you you Jared Guarantano at Washington State. UM, I think 1078 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,160 Speaker 1: has a pretty good opportunity. Right from what you were 1079 01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:17,640 Speaker 1: telling me, Um, Well, I mean, what do you what 1080 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,120 Speaker 1: do you think of that? That? Is it good for 1081 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,160 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve to have quarterbacks from the SEC and 1082 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,240 Speaker 1: from other parts of the country looking at the Pack 1083 01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,879 Speaker 1: twelve and saying like, oh I can, I can definitely 1084 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:33,080 Speaker 1: play over there. Uh well, well yeah, because they've already 1085 01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,320 Speaker 1: taken some of the Pac twelves best quarterbacks. Look at 1086 01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,960 Speaker 1: look at it. Let's look at the college football playoff 1087 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,400 Speaker 1: from the last year. Who were who were the teams? 1088 01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:50,560 Speaker 1: Um ok Oklahoma whom where's their quarterback from? Ralph? Arizona 1089 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:56,000 Speaker 1: are the oh? Pac twelve footprint Clemson? Who's their starting 1090 01:11:56,080 --> 01:12:04,400 Speaker 1: quarterback now? Dja WHOA? He's from California from St. John Bosco? 1091 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:10,160 Speaker 1: Oh who's the starting quarterback at Alabama? Bryce Young and 1092 01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:14,439 Speaker 1: Mac Jones before him was leaning heavy toward Arizona state 1093 01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:20,400 Speaker 1: and decided to stay in sec country. Oh nice, Okay, 1094 01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:25,800 Speaker 1: he's from modern modern day all right, Um, righting right 1095 01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:29,040 Speaker 1: outside of l A two. Oh my god, who's the 1096 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:36,680 Speaker 1: quarterback at Ohio State? Jack Miller? Potentially No, well or 1097 01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:41,880 Speaker 1: either either him or C. J. Stroud. Both of them 1098 01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:48,680 Speaker 1: are are pack twell footprint guys. Yeah, yep. So the 1099 01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,920 Speaker 1: the teams are leading their teams to the Pack twelve 1100 01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,240 Speaker 1: to the college football playoff with Pack twelve quarterbacks. So 1101 01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:59,160 Speaker 1: and now we have to take their their bounce backs. 1102 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,960 Speaker 1: Don't don't for get to, don't forget Purty. Gotta bring 1103 01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,720 Speaker 1: him up at every every occasion. That not only did 1104 01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,080 Speaker 1: every Pack twelve team miss out on him, uh, he 1105 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:12,080 Speaker 1: didn't have a single offer until after he was finished 1106 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:17,519 Speaker 1: playing high school football, and now he's resurrecting Iowa State football. 1107 01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,280 Speaker 1: I don't even know if it counts as resurrecting. Were 1108 01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:26,040 Speaker 1: they ever good? No? I guess they had some They 1109 01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:30,639 Speaker 1: had some hot moments for a minute. But yeah. Um. 1110 01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:36,200 Speaker 1: The next thing up, though, is um Ralph found a 1111 01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,839 Speaker 1: stat that was on one of the Pack twelve Twitter sites. 1112 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,599 Speaker 1: You know, people tweet tweet out stats and all of that, 1113 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:48,480 Speaker 1: and over the last four years. UM, the most interceptions 1114 01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,720 Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve. It just so happens to be 1115 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,720 Speaker 1: to Oregon Ducks with fifty seven and I think they 1116 01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:59,120 Speaker 1: only got one all of last year. UM, and that's 1117 01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:03,320 Speaker 1: ranked eight nationally. Utaw A second with fifty and then 1118 01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:08,560 Speaker 1: it goes Cal Washington A, s U, Arizona, Stanford, Washington 1119 01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:12,040 Speaker 1: State USC only with thirty eight in the last four years. 1120 01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,400 Speaker 1: That sounds like some defenses that don't take away to football. 1121 01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,920 Speaker 1: But the dead last is Oregon State with only twenty 1122 01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,519 Speaker 1: three interceptions in the last four years. What does that 1123 01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:27,799 Speaker 1: say to you? First of all, fifty seven is a lot. 1124 01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:33,559 Speaker 1: Is seven more than second place? So, I mean, I 1125 01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,719 Speaker 1: don't know what Oregon's up to. That's wild, that's crazy 1126 01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:41,519 Speaker 1: to me. UM. I mean that that's certainly a testament 1127 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,160 Speaker 1: to how the defense has been has been run and 1128 01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:49,080 Speaker 1: how how opportunistic that they've been. But UM, Oregon State 1129 01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:53,839 Speaker 1: averaging five takeaways through the air the last four years 1130 01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:58,240 Speaker 1: is not surprising when you look at where they've had 1131 01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:02,920 Speaker 1: to go to actually get the talent that they've gotten 1132 01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:09,599 Speaker 1: like that there junior college. They're having to hit jucos, 1133 01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:14,479 Speaker 1: they're having to convert wide receivers. I remember, UM Timmy 1134 01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:18,080 Speaker 1: Hernandez out there wasn't he was a converted wide receiver. 1135 01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,280 Speaker 1: He's one of the best corners they've had over the 1136 01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,559 Speaker 1: last few years. They had to flip Mason Moran from 1137 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:28,000 Speaker 1: quarterback to UH to safety. They've had to UM. They 1138 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,679 Speaker 1: have the two brothers that that what were both from 1139 01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,960 Speaker 1: the last season of UM Last Chance you right, the 1140 01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:38,519 Speaker 1: California season. UM that both went to that JUCO. They're 1141 01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:43,599 Speaker 1: not They are not able to attract talent in that 1142 01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:47,720 Speaker 1: defensive backfield and I don't know, I'm not sure what 1143 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:49,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to do to to step it up. 1144 01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,680 Speaker 1: The opportunity is there. Cal figured it out a few 1145 01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,200 Speaker 1: years back. It was just get as many players as 1146 01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,840 Speaker 1: you possibly can and the cream will rise to the top. 1147 01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,559 Speaker 1: I think Arizona State followed their foot print when they 1148 01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:07,240 Speaker 1: were dead last in UM in UH. You know, I 1149 01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:11,760 Speaker 1: think that that was UM that was a a big 1150 01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:15,120 Speaker 1: step forward for for them. You know, what is it 1151 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:20,160 Speaker 1: gonna take for Oregon State to do the same thing. Yeah, 1152 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,040 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna take a lot for Oregon State 1153 01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:25,840 Speaker 1: to to to do it, But they're on the right track. 1154 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:30,000 Speaker 1: Jonathan Smith is doing a fantastic job over there with 1155 01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:34,639 Speaker 1: that team right now. Um. Uh that kind of leads 1156 01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:38,839 Speaker 1: us to the NFL Draft. So Ralph had a question, Uh, 1157 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:43,240 Speaker 1: what was your question? Well, I just I think it 1158 01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:48,360 Speaker 1: was felt and versus right. Okay, So I was gonna 1159 01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,400 Speaker 1: dip into the whole pin a stool thing again, um, 1160 01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,080 Speaker 1: because I'm in Charlotte now and on the front page 1161 01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,720 Speaker 1: of the sports section last week the Charlotte Observer, They're like, 1162 01:16:56,720 --> 01:17:00,120 Speaker 1: pin a stool could totally slip to number eight. Um, 1163 01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:03,800 Speaker 1: and I was like, I swear to God that happens. Like, 1164 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:08,680 Speaker 1: how if that happens, I mean people need to lose 1165 01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:12,880 Speaker 1: their jobs. Um. But no, so uh. We we had 1166 01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,200 Speaker 1: all been all set up to interview Jim Nagi, the 1167 01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:20,360 Speaker 1: head of the Rec's Senior Bowl. Um, you know, I 1168 01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,400 Speaker 1: can't wait till we get him on, buddy, So we're 1169 01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:32,160 Speaker 1: just gonna got a bad mouth. Is sponsor quit mid interview? Okay? Well, um, 1170 01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:37,240 Speaker 1: I think they have a fantastic sponsor and uh And anyway, 1171 01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,519 Speaker 1: one of the players that was the absolute star of 1172 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,200 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl process was Frank Darby And we've talked 1173 01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:45,640 Speaker 1: a little bit about him on this show, Like what 1174 01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,360 Speaker 1: a big enigma. He is. He he's had a case 1175 01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,760 Speaker 1: of the drops. He's a two star recruit coming out 1176 01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:53,160 Speaker 1: of like New Jersey. One time Iowa commit ends up 1177 01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,960 Speaker 1: at Arizona State and they used him to run nine 1178 01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,000 Speaker 1: routes and he had a couple of really big drops 1179 01:17:58,000 --> 01:17:59,680 Speaker 1: in his career. He had a few really really big 1180 01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,520 Speaker 1: cat is, but he was really known for bringing enthusiasm 1181 01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,960 Speaker 1: and just for being a workout warrior and an athletic freak. 1182 01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:06,519 Speaker 1: And then over at u c l A. You have 1183 01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:10,639 Speaker 1: Demetric Felton, who I believe they converted from wide receiver 1184 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,160 Speaker 1: to running back when he finally made his big impact 1185 01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,760 Speaker 1: this year and was probably the best offensive player in 1186 01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,920 Speaker 1: the PACT twelve South, if not the UM the PAC 1187 01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:23,240 Speaker 1: twelve overall. And so you know, yeah, you take you 1188 01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,519 Speaker 1: take those two guys and say, Okay, we have one 1189 01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,240 Speaker 1: guy who's going back to wide receiver in the NFL, 1190 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:29,880 Speaker 1: and we have another guy who had kind of a 1191 01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:34,760 Speaker 1: disappointing career wide receiver but flashed absolute brilliance and has 1192 01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,080 Speaker 1: a lot of the things that you would think any 1193 01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:40,160 Speaker 1: NFL executive would want. He's he's big body. There's a 1194 01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,680 Speaker 1: reason that they're talking about Davante Smith slipping because he's 1195 01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,320 Speaker 1: only a hundred and sixty seven pounds. Well, Frank Derby's 1196 01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,280 Speaker 1: like what like to two ten, solid as a rock 1197 01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:52,839 Speaker 1: and and is probably the second or third fastest receiver 1198 01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,280 Speaker 1: coming out behind Demitric Felton, who was right up there 1199 01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,080 Speaker 1: with him. Who would you rather have, George, Demitric Felton 1200 01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:04,439 Speaker 1: or Frank Derby. It's not even a question. Give me 1201 01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:09,559 Speaker 1: Dimitric Felton. He's not even close, buddy. He's versatile, he 1202 01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,720 Speaker 1: doesn't drop the ball, he can play running back, he 1203 01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:16,559 Speaker 1: can do fifty freaking different things. I want to see 1204 01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,680 Speaker 1: him go to like I wouldn't mind seeing him go 1205 01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:28,639 Speaker 1: to the Patriots. He would get used just just phenomenally. Um, 1206 01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:35,720 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind seeing him go to UM like like 1207 01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:39,519 Speaker 1: I see him like a poor man's but but like 1208 01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,640 Speaker 1: not very poor like I I should say, not a 1209 01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:46,439 Speaker 1: not a not a poor man's, but like a middle class, 1210 01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:58,080 Speaker 1: the upper middle class. Um. Uh, McCaffrey, because McCaffrey's a 1211 01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:08,880 Speaker 1: running back Christian. Okay, yeah, yeah, he's a middle class 1212 01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:16,160 Speaker 1: version of Christian McCaffrey. Do you know? So would you 1213 01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:23,000 Speaker 1: put him on Reggie Bush's level in the NFL No, 1214 01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:27,880 Speaker 1: because I think I think, Okay, So Felton runs extremely hard, 1215 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,559 Speaker 1: he can run between the tackles. I don't think he's 1216 01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:34,719 Speaker 1: as explosive as Reggie, but that's the type of office 1217 01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:36,320 Speaker 1: that I want to see him in with like Sean 1218 01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:40,439 Speaker 1: Payton or you know, they already have Kamara there, but 1219 01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:44,200 Speaker 1: if Kamara weren't there, he would be perfect for what 1220 01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:48,439 Speaker 1: they're trying to do. So I would take Felton. Who 1221 01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,599 Speaker 1: would who would you take a limited guy who's gonna 1222 01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,760 Speaker 1: be really strong and play special teams for you you know, 1223 01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,680 Speaker 1: and you know, but but Darby's not going to be 1224 01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,439 Speaker 1: an NFL wide out. He's gonna be NFL specially player. 1225 01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:06,400 Speaker 1: Oh really, that's okay. So Frank Derby thing is weird 1226 01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:10,120 Speaker 1: for me because I know what he's capable of, but 1227 01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:14,639 Speaker 1: he hasn't necessarily done it right, um, and I think 1228 01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:19,439 Speaker 1: I think he'll. He'll be somebody who potentially makes an 1229 01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:23,480 Speaker 1: NFL GM look like a genius. You gotta have somebody. 1230 01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,559 Speaker 1: You have to have a system in which the quarterback 1231 01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:27,200 Speaker 1: can put a lot of air under the ball if 1232 01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:30,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna make use of him. Um, I look at 1233 01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:38,519 Speaker 1: somebody who who's the Washington football team receiver that that 1234 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:44,439 Speaker 1: went off out of Ohio State. Terry Um, Terry mclaura, Yeah, 1235 01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,360 Speaker 1: Terry mclauren. I look at what Terry mclauren's doing, and 1236 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you could kind of use Frank Derby 1237 01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:51,479 Speaker 1: in that in that way if you could depend on 1238 01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,639 Speaker 1: him to be able to learn more than one route 1239 01:21:54,680 --> 01:22:01,400 Speaker 1: and catch the ball consistently. He has the same physical tools. 1240 01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,800 Speaker 1: If if you're right, You're absolutely right. It is a 1241 01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:11,400 Speaker 1: lot of ifs um, But I think that you so 1242 01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,360 Speaker 1: you think if you went to Seattle that they wouldn't 1243 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,040 Speaker 1: find a way to use him as more than a 1244 01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:19,559 Speaker 1: special teams guy. I think there's certain places where he 1245 01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:25,840 Speaker 1: could fit and make a serious impact. M M. You're right. 1246 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:27,960 Speaker 1: I mean felt, and I think Felton is more the 1247 01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:31,920 Speaker 1: sure the sure bet, and I think Felton can probably 1248 01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:37,160 Speaker 1: do everything that Darby can do. It's just that I 1249 01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:39,439 Speaker 1: want to know what it is I'm missing. I covered 1250 01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:43,080 Speaker 1: Frank Derby for for three years, watched his high school 1251 01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,880 Speaker 1: tape and everything, and I want to know what makes 1252 01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,400 Speaker 1: a guy like Drew Rosenhouse say, hey, he had like 1253 01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:52,920 Speaker 1: two catches as a senior. I need to rap him personally. Um, 1254 01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,559 Speaker 1: and then he goes Senior Bowl. He goes to the 1255 01:22:55,600 --> 01:23:00,599 Speaker 1: rec Senior Bowl and makes Drew Rosenhouse look like a genius. Yeah. Hey, 1256 01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:06,840 Speaker 1: maybe they knew something, dude, maybe they knew something. Um, 1257 01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:10,720 Speaker 1: all right, uh, the next thing up? Um? Oh, we 1258 01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,720 Speaker 1: don't have any new reviews people, What the hell is 1259 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:18,559 Speaker 1: going on? We don't have any new reviews and ratings. 1260 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,680 Speaker 1: I think our ratings went off. You turn people off 1261 01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:25,439 Speaker 1: with your oatmeal raisin cookie take last week. Oh speaking 1262 01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,639 Speaker 1: of that though, So we didn't get any new reviews, 1263 01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,519 Speaker 1: but we did get people sending us a text to 1264 01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:46,280 Speaker 1: nine um seven five four seven Oh so uh, person 1265 01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:50,879 Speaker 1: said oatmeal raising cookie cookies are just wanna be chocolate 1266 01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:56,720 Speaker 1: chip cookies and also need a Ralph review of The 1267 01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:01,559 Speaker 1: Money Pit. Man, I don't think I can watch that movie. 1268 01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:10,400 Speaker 1: I don't have to watch it, dudes, come on, Ralph. Yeah, 1269 01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,960 Speaker 1: I was about to make a very insensitive analogy, but 1270 01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:19,040 Speaker 1: like I I don't know, man, I don't know would 1271 01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:23,360 Speaker 1: you would you would you tell somebody who's like suffering 1272 01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,920 Speaker 1: from PTSD, like hey you gotta watch Platoon, like you 1273 01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:30,960 Speaker 1: have to watch um? But I don't know. I just 1274 01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,640 Speaker 1: I don't think that. Right now, I can handle it. 1275 01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,280 Speaker 1: Just give me, give me like a couple of months 1276 01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:41,120 Speaker 1: to get out from under the like to make it 1277 01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:44,440 Speaker 1: feel like this house isn't gonna just fall into a sinkhole. 1278 01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:46,920 Speaker 1: And then I will sit down and watch that movie 1279 01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:51,280 Speaker 1: when I can breathe a little bit, all right. The 1280 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,719 Speaker 1: last thing we have up is a dope viral tweet 1281 01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:58,839 Speaker 1: from Sabrina Iron about Sabrina I and ask you, um, 1282 01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:03,519 Speaker 1: it's a it's Luca. I retweeted it on my Twitter 1283 01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:07,240 Speaker 1: and I'll retweet it from the Pact twelve apostles Twitter 1284 01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:12,400 Speaker 1: as well. The way we don't forget it. So this 1285 01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:17,280 Speaker 1: is about a Okay, I just retweeted from the pac 1286 01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,559 Speaker 1: tweter so it says this is a true story. I 1287 01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,160 Speaker 1: was in San Francisco a couple of years ago and 1288 01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:24,559 Speaker 1: got to talk into our uber driver. He was a 1289 01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:27,519 Speaker 1: friendly Romanian dude. He asked me about work and we 1290 01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:30,320 Speaker 1: started talking ball. He told me his daughter was going 1291 01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:33,719 Speaker 1: to play college basketball. She must be good, I said. 1292 01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,680 Speaker 1: He turned to me and raised the finger and said, no, 1293 01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:40,920 Speaker 1: she's not good. She is the best. I'm from the Balkans. 1294 01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:44,759 Speaker 1: I've been around proud Eastern euro parents my entire life. 1295 01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,559 Speaker 1: They are people who always have the best everything. I 1296 01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:51,880 Speaker 1: sort of laughed and was like, that's awesome. Man. We 1297 01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,479 Speaker 1: talked hoops and a little bit longer and gave me 1298 01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,599 Speaker 1: his card in case I ever needed a ride somewhere, 1299 01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:01,599 Speaker 1: and he posted the receipt of a two A couple 1300 01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:03,840 Speaker 1: of years later, it turns out he was a right. 1301 01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,639 Speaker 1: She was the best, and it was from Dan Iron. 1302 01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:11,880 Speaker 1: Ask you, what do you think about that insane memory? 1303 01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:16,400 Speaker 1: What would make you what would make you remember an 1304 01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:26,559 Speaker 1: interaction like that like that, that's the thing, because see, 1305 01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:34,240 Speaker 1: see I would have had the picture. Um, because I 1306 01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:39,120 Speaker 1: would have had the picture, because that's just how how 1307 01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:41,240 Speaker 1: I rolled. Like I take pictures of things the way 1308 01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,800 Speaker 1: I don't lose them. I take pictures of receipts when 1309 01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,720 Speaker 1: I first get them everything. So I would have had it, 1310 01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,439 Speaker 1: and then I it would have dawned on me one day, 1311 01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,400 Speaker 1: like hold up, I'd ask you, is this the same dude? 1312 01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:55,000 Speaker 1: Let me go look, And then I would have looked, 1313 01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:57,600 Speaker 1: and then I would have been floored when it was 1314 01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:01,160 Speaker 1: the same thing. I think that that's just dope as hell. 1315 01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:03,960 Speaker 1: That her dad with the uber driver. He's out there 1316 01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:07,479 Speaker 1: bragging about his daughter and it turns out that that 1317 01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:11,080 Speaker 1: they were right. I mean, so her dad was basically 1318 01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:16,360 Speaker 1: like labar Ball. Yeah, I mean maybe maybe maybe he 1319 01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:20,719 Speaker 1: remembered because he was not from San Francisco and because 1320 01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:25,559 Speaker 1: he works in sports. Yeah, yeah, that could be good too. 1321 01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,280 Speaker 1: I mean because I just feel like, if it's in 1322 01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,559 Speaker 1: your city and you take Uber every day, what would 1323 01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:35,880 Speaker 1: make you remember that one interaction? Um? But if you're 1324 01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,639 Speaker 1: if you are just in a city for the first 1325 01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:40,840 Speaker 1: time talking with an Uber driver for the first time, 1326 01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:46,960 Speaker 1: and he happens to be um, and he happens to 1327 01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:51,160 Speaker 1: be uh like interested in the thing that you're doing, 1328 01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:53,400 Speaker 1: and then also has a kid who plays and is 1329 01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,599 Speaker 1: easily google herble. But on my point is, I don't 1330 01:27:56,640 --> 01:28:00,760 Speaker 1: think this Luca Dokics guy. I think he probably has 1331 01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,840 Speaker 1: remembered the teach guy because if it was only a 1332 01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:05,920 Speaker 1: couple of years ago and he looked up Sabrina I 1333 01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,240 Speaker 1: and ask you like she, there would have been a 1334 01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:13,000 Speaker 1: million right right. That's so That's what I'm saying is 1335 01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:14,719 Speaker 1: he probably just kind of held on it. He knew 1336 01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,760 Speaker 1: immediately she was very good, and then he held onto 1337 01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,920 Speaker 1: the story. Um, because a couple of I mean, if 1338 01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,679 Speaker 1: we're being literal, a couple of years ago is two 1339 01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,439 Speaker 1: years and two years ago, Sabrina, I ask you as 1340 01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:33,479 Speaker 1: the best women's basketball player underage, so this is and 1341 01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:35,559 Speaker 1: and he said that she was going to play, so 1342 01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:37,320 Speaker 1: this had to be like when she was going to 1343 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:41,320 Speaker 1: go be a freshman. Yeah, I mean, this still is 1344 01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,599 Speaker 1: still cool as hell. It's a really really cool story, 1345 01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,080 Speaker 1: and I just the dad proud of his daughter makes 1346 01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:51,439 Speaker 1: it the best. I love it. Well, you guys, that's 1347 01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:56,280 Speaker 1: another episode of the Pack twelve Apostles in the Books. 1348 01:28:56,560 --> 01:29:00,360 Speaker 1: Did I miss anything? I'm sure. I'm sure as soon 1349 01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:03,160 Speaker 1: as we stopped recording, it'll like come out that they 1350 01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:06,080 Speaker 1: finally picked a new president of the conference or whatever. 1351 01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:10,960 Speaker 1: Exactly all right, Well, thank you guys for listening. Peace out, 1352 01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,280 Speaker 1: Catch you guys next week for the NFL Draft.