1
00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:01,920
Speaker 1: The volume.

2
00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,880
Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

3
00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,239
Speaker 3: What is up Straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight

4
00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:28,480
Speaker 3: Fire for Friday, April twenty eighth. What a night in

5
00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,280
Speaker 3: the NFL. Listen, it's been the football season ended in

6
00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,839
Speaker 3: the middle of February, and you know, there's like a

7
00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,199
Speaker 3: little respite and everybody goes on vacation, and there's the combine,

8
00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,000
Speaker 3: and then there's the workouts and all that stuff, and

9
00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,440
Speaker 3: you kind of sort of pay attention, and then you

10
00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,519
Speaker 3: get to Draft Day and like the excitement is just

11
00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,600
Speaker 3: through the roof. Folks. It was a crazy night in

12
00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,600
Speaker 3: the NFL Draft. It's funny, I was saying on the

13
00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,120
Speaker 3: Herd Thursday. You know, it's been like five or six

14
00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,600
Speaker 3: years since anybody's done a draft day trade in the

15
00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,880
Speaker 3: top five. Might have even been a little bit longer

16
00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,480
Speaker 3: since anybody traded in the top ten on Draft Day. Now,

17
00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,280
Speaker 3: obviously before the draft, you know there was even one

18
00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,000
Speaker 3: Carolina moving up to one, but they know they wanted

19
00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,000
Speaker 3: a guy that got you. If you know who you want,

20
00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,120
Speaker 3: you go up early right. Draft Day stuff hasn't really

21
00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,640
Speaker 3: been happening as much lately. And then and then twenty

22
00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,320
Speaker 3: twenty three happened and it was absolute chaos all over

23
00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,200
Speaker 3: the place. We'll do heavy draft at the top. We

24
00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,920
Speaker 3: will talk about these Celtics and a close one with

25
00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,880
Speaker 3: the Hawks, and setting up the weekend of games with

26
00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,760
Speaker 3: the semifinals in the East kicking off, and we'll do

27
00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,200
Speaker 3: a couple NBA best bets for what is listen Friday

28
00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,959
Speaker 3: night and sports is crazy. Warriors looking to close it out,

29
00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,640
Speaker 3: Lakers looking to close it out, and the NFL Draft continues.

30
00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,800
Speaker 3: But we got to start with the draft. A lot

31
00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,640
Speaker 3: of places to take it. You know, Eagles obviously big winners.

32
00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,120
Speaker 3: I don't really care about the Brice Young thing. Everybody

33
00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:02,040
Speaker 3: knew that was happening. You had Houston taking CJ. Stroud

34
00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:07,520
Speaker 3: early despite the S two bombing. Then Houston and this

35
00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,600
Speaker 3: there's some drama in Houston. That's how we had a

36
00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,480
Speaker 3: guest on. I kind of sniffed out there's gonna be

37
00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,840
Speaker 3: some drama and Demiko Ryan's pretty clearly pounded the table.

38
00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,520
Speaker 3: If you can get your quarterback to save your job,

39
00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,560
Speaker 3: I gotta go get me my guy, and they trade

40
00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,400
Speaker 3: it back up. It was stupid. We'll get into that.

41
00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:27,000
Speaker 3: And then Arizona made some kind of insane moves. Philadelphia

42
00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,720
Speaker 3: makes one little jump up. I actually want to start

43
00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,200
Speaker 3: with the guy who fell out of the first round,

44
00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,080
Speaker 3: and that would be Will Levis. And let this be

45
00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,200
Speaker 3: a lesson to any of you. Hopefully you know, I

46
00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,480
Speaker 3: know we have a smart audience. Rob G checks the numbers.

47
00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,800
Speaker 3: We're able to get some data on you guys, and

48
00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,920
Speaker 3: we know we got a good audience. Hopefully none of you,

49
00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,760
Speaker 3: guys are the meatballs going on this Reddit message board

50
00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,080
Speaker 3: where some JABBRONI with some random name you know I

51
00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,000
Speaker 3: saw two seven nine six is saying, oh, will Evis

52
00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,760
Speaker 3: is going first, and all these morons follow the Reddit

53
00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,680
Speaker 3: message board and bet Will Levis to go first overall,

54
00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,880
Speaker 3: and he falls out of the first round. These are

55
00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,440
Speaker 3: the same ass clowns who are backing game Stop. We

56
00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,640
Speaker 3: gotta get in the game stock action. Oh my gosh,

57
00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,160
Speaker 3: we got to these meme stock we gotta jump and

58
00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,120
Speaker 3: they lose their shirt. It's like, guys, you know, I listen,

59
00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,120
Speaker 3: we like Will Levis. I didn't particularly like him. In

60
00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,000
Speaker 3: my final mock draft, I had him going forth to

61
00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,440
Speaker 3: the Colts. There were a lot of signs that the

62
00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,519
Speaker 3: Colts liked him. I should have gone with My initial

63
00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,920
Speaker 3: reaction was Shane Steiken, Jalen Hurts, Shane Steike, and Anthony Richardson.

64
00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,480
Speaker 3: I mean, it's pretty obvious right there. I leaned more

65
00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,760
Speaker 3: on Ballard and the owner liking Levis because he kind

66
00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,960
Speaker 3: of fit the prototype of a quarterback that Ballard had had,

67
00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:50,000
Speaker 3: and pretty clearly Ersay likes a big, stocky quarterback, a

68
00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,760
Speaker 3: big Andrew Luck, a big Peyton Manning in the pocket.

69
00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,560
Speaker 3: But it's not Levis. And then the fall begins and

70
00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,440
Speaker 3: it's like Atlanta passes for Bijon Robinson like an ASA

71
00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,240
Speaker 3: nine pick. That was Again it's two things can be true.

72
00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,040
Speaker 3: I can like b Jeon Robinson as a player and

73
00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,560
Speaker 3: I can hate Atlanta who hit a home run in

74
00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,160
Speaker 3: the fifth round with Tony al Jeer last year. Guy

75
00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,800
Speaker 3: had like eleven hundred yards, a bunch of touchdowns, more

76
00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,120
Speaker 3: than capable, and they have Cord Patterson. You drafted another

77
00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,920
Speaker 3: running back? What are you doing? We just saw the

78
00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,680
Speaker 3: Chiefs get to the Super Bowl with a seventh rout

79
00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,920
Speaker 3: running back. The falconsider home running a fifth round running back,

80
00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,160
Speaker 3: and you're going Bjeon Robinson eighth overall, I get it.

81
00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:30,880
Speaker 3: He's gonna put up numbers, He's gonna be good. But

82
00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:37,760
Speaker 3: like value, folks, I mean Austin Eckler chargers undrafted, Like

83
00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,640
Speaker 3: you can find running backs? Can you find left tackles

84
00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,480
Speaker 3: a little harder? Can you find ed rushers little harder?

85
00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,839
Speaker 3: You know, I didn't like that pick at any rate.

86
00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,080
Speaker 3: Will Levis continues to fall Tennessee Titans, who a lot

87
00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,080
Speaker 3: of people had maybe taken a quarterback, and it's possible.

88
00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,200
Speaker 3: Remember we had Micha Lobardi on this week, and we

89
00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,800
Speaker 3: had Lancerline on from Houston. Did Trey Lan stuff the

90
00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,360
Speaker 3: fact that Tennessee did not take a quarterback and their

91
00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,279
Speaker 3: GM just came from San Francisco. Maybe the Titans kicked

92
00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,039
Speaker 3: the tires on Trey Lance. They end up taking Scronsky

93
00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,560
Speaker 3: and then it's like, ooh, oh boy, what's the landing spot?

94
00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,040
Speaker 3: Where does he go? And you start looking down at like, oh, Washington.

95
00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,880
Speaker 3: Maybe you know, Ron Rivera's got to keep his job,

96
00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,440
Speaker 3: you know, the best way to kind of get an

97
00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,719
Speaker 3: extension like a stay of execution, if you will, you

98
00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,520
Speaker 3: draft a quarterback and say, you know what, this is

99
00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,160
Speaker 3: gonna be the guy. We need to sit him, sit

100
00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,480
Speaker 3: him for a little bit, insert him later look at

101
00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,840
Speaker 3: the progress boom. That's our guy for next year, and

102
00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:34,760
Speaker 3: you know you're able to keep your job. No, Ron

103
00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,360
Speaker 3: Rivera said, no, I want Emmanuel Forbes. He really fits

104
00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:44,280
Speaker 3: my man coverage schemes in the secondary. I'm like Ron Rivera, bro,

105
00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,120
Speaker 3: put your house on the market. I don't know. It

106
00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,960
Speaker 3: just feels like, yeah, I like Sam Owl a little bit,

107
00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,080
Speaker 3: but I don't see a path to success for Washington.

108
00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,880
Speaker 3: So then Levis keeps falling, and meanwhile ESPN just keeps

109
00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,359
Speaker 3: shoving him down your throat. Now, it didn't help that

110
00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,240
Speaker 3: he's got these two sisters, the blonde, attractive college looking

111
00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,960
Speaker 3: kids or whatever. And then his girlfriend comes over and

112
00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,559
Speaker 3: she's like she's going to the problem with some red dress.

113
00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,240
Speaker 3: And it's funny because if you just type in Will

114
00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,560
Speaker 3: Levi's girlfriend, all these newspapers wrote about her because she's

115
00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,560
Speaker 3: posting on Instagram and all this stuff, and he's attractive,

116
00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,400
Speaker 3: brunette whatever, and Will Levis is getting more airtime than

117
00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,679
Speaker 3: anyone else. I bet you guys didn't even know Joey

118
00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,679
Speaker 3: Porter was in the green room and did get drafted

119
00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,600
Speaker 3: in the first round, cornerback whose dad was in the NFL,

120
00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,320
Speaker 3: And there was like, I think three other guys in

121
00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,839
Speaker 3: the green room, but you wouldn't know it because Will

122
00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,880
Speaker 3: Levis with the attractive women around him, and he's a

123
00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,680
Speaker 3: quarterback sitting there's sweating bullets. You felt bad for the guy.

124
00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,680
Speaker 3: But as Sauce Gardner of the Jets noted on social

125
00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,560
Speaker 3: media as well as in my opinion, a lot of

126
00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,040
Speaker 3: other smart people know, it ain't the end of the world.

127
00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,240
Speaker 3: In the moment, it sucks, donkey, you know what it is?

128
00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,000
Speaker 3: The worst cameras are on you, You're sweating, You're just

129
00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,360
Speaker 3: sitting there waiting for the call, waiting for the text.

130
00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,760
Speaker 3: I mean, what else are you doing besides looking at

131
00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,039
Speaker 3: your phone? Who I don't know. I don't know who

132
00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,000
Speaker 3: Will Levis is texting. I'm assuming his agent was there.

133
00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,280
Speaker 3: It saw his mom and dad, and like, you felt

134
00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,240
Speaker 3: bad for the guy, and then you remember back to

135
00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,720
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson five years ago, sitting in the green room

136
00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,600
Speaker 3: with his mom at the table, and there's many images

137
00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,120
Speaker 3: of them just like head on the table, laying down, exhausted,

138
00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,680
Speaker 3: sitting there for what four hours? And he falls to

139
00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,600
Speaker 3: the end of the first round, and it just so

140
00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,480
Speaker 3: happens that what five years to the day, or four

141
00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,559
Speaker 3: years to the day, I forget what it was. Lamar

142
00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:35,200
Speaker 3: Jackson signs his new deal with the Ravens, five year deal,

143
00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,880
Speaker 3: highest paid quarterback in the league, and it felt history.

144
00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,720
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, he gets one hundred and eighty five million guaranteed.

145
00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,280
Speaker 3: It's a five year deal. But and not to go

146
00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,640
Speaker 3: off the Will Levis story, but the timing of the

147
00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,560
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson was interesting, Rob. I don't know if you

148
00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,720
Speaker 3: noticed this. They announced it like two hours before the draft,

149
00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,200
Speaker 3: maybe three, and then all of a sudden you're like, oh,

150
00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,480
Speaker 3: where's the guaranteed money? What's the guaranteed money? And then

151
00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,160
Speaker 3: they leaked down like an hour before the draft and

152
00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,680
Speaker 3: you're like, wait, he got one hundred and eighty five mil.

153
00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,280
Speaker 3: Wa wait, how does that line up with what he

154
00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,520
Speaker 3: was offered before? And how does that compare to But

155
00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,360
Speaker 3: by the time all this stuff starting to come out,

156
00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,200
Speaker 3: it's like, Oh, it's draft time, guys, let's forget about

157
00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,640
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson. Forget that contract. Let's go to the Carolina Panthers.

158
00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,640
Speaker 3: You're on the clock. And it was like the Lamar's

159
00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,200
Speaker 3: listen if you're the Ravens. That was as good at

160
00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,040
Speaker 3: handling as you could possibly do with Lamar and Jackson,

161
00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,880
Speaker 3: wait for Jalen Hurts to sign his deal, give him

162
00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,080
Speaker 3: more money than Jalen Hurts Lamar, and then boom, it's

163
00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,080
Speaker 3: quick onto the next one. The draft happens. Now we're

164
00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,640
Speaker 3: putting this out just after midnight on Friday morning. What

165
00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,760
Speaker 3: do you think is going to be the top three

166
00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,640
Speaker 3: stories on Friday morning when you're in rush hour traffic.

167
00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:51,200
Speaker 3: Will Levis falling. Probably the Eagles grabbing two more Georgia defenders.

168
00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:56,880
Speaker 3: They're rebuilding the Georgia Bulldogs historically great twenty twenty one defense.

169
00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,840
Speaker 3: And then you know, maybe Bryce, maybe CJ. Stroud going second.

170
00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,400
Speaker 3: Maybe the Texans getting the second and third pick. That's

171
00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,120
Speaker 3: a little crazy. Probably won't be my Jets getting Will MacDonald.

172
00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,240
Speaker 3: I will talk about that later. It could be any

173
00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,720
Speaker 3: of those. It could be the Ravens adding Zay Flowers.

174
00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:14,880
Speaker 3: Oh and oh, by the way, yeah, the Ravens. They

175
00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,640
Speaker 3: signed Lamar Jackson, they're keeping him and they give him

176
00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,880
Speaker 3: a lot of money. Okay, so let's see. Oh, the

177
00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,840
Speaker 3: NBA games tonight, and it's like Lamar Jackson's story, it

178
00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,680
Speaker 3: was just a per a masterclass from the Baltimore Ravens

179
00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,520
Speaker 3: on at a handle, a really dire and ugly situation

180
00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,480
Speaker 3: that dragged out and for the better part of two

181
00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:37,120
Speaker 3: months was ugly and frankly, Will Levis is gonna It's

182
00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,360
Speaker 3: gonna be a bigger story later today than Lamar Jackson.

183
00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,120
Speaker 3: That's a given, because quarterbacks are a big deal, and

184
00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,040
Speaker 3: you know, we're starting to see some people say, well,

185
00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,520
Speaker 3: you could see him tumbling a little bit. Folks, Listen,

186
00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,120
Speaker 3: I didn't look at a ton of mock drafts, but

187
00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,480
Speaker 3: I started to when it got to late first round.

188
00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, jeesus, is anybody gonna trade back in to

189
00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,600
Speaker 3: get Will Levis. It's like, well, Saints just got Derek

190
00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,360
Speaker 3: Carr Bengal, Sure as hell ain't doing Eagles aren't doing it. Chiefs,

191
00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,960
Speaker 3: what are they doing with Will? Love it so unbelievably

192
00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,959
Speaker 3: he tumbles out of the first round entirely. Second round begins,

193
00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,640
Speaker 3: what Friday, like seven o'clock Eastern? I think maybe seven thirty.

194
00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,520
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you right now, rob My prediction on

195
00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,040
Speaker 3: Will Levis. I don't think anyone trades up to Pittsburgh

196
00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,520
Speaker 3: to get him. I don't think anyone wants it at

197
00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,839
Speaker 3: thirty two. You always want the first pick of the

198
00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,800
Speaker 3: second day. If someone's super hot for a player that

199
00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,400
Speaker 3: fell Joey Porter, whatever, Maybe Joey Porter goes to the Steelers.

200
00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,760
Speaker 3: They could use a cornerback. Joey Porter also played with

201
00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,600
Speaker 3: the Steelers. Then it's Arizona. I believe at thirty four

202
00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,319
Speaker 3: the Detroit Lions, who had a pretty terrible opening round.

203
00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,520
Speaker 3: We'll get to in a second, rob G I believe

204
00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,360
Speaker 3: that will Levis will go thirty four to the Detroit Lions. Now,

205
00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,240
Speaker 3: if he falls beyond that, keep an eye on the

206
00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:57,000
Speaker 3: Rams at thirty six because the Rams, I believe one

207
00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,679
Speaker 3: of their coaches went to Kentucky and was the OC

208
00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,640
Speaker 3: working with Levis for a year, and Will Levis has

209
00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,520
Speaker 3: been in pro systems. I don't know if he fits

210
00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,840
Speaker 3: what McVeigh wants to do, but I would keep an

211
00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,760
Speaker 3: eye on that. There could be some traction there. Now

212
00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,400
Speaker 3: if he doesn't. If Levis doesn't go thirty four to

213
00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:17,319
Speaker 3: thirty six, I mean Seattle thirty seven at that point,

214
00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,160
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm lost to Tennessee at forty one. Could

215
00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:21,959
Speaker 3: he fall deeper? We know the Jets ain't taking him,

216
00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,720
Speaker 3: Packers aren't taking him, so it could get ugly. But Rob.

217
00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,720
Speaker 3: Ultimately we know falling is not the worst thing in

218
00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,120
Speaker 3: the world. Aaron Rodgers fell turned out great, Okay, Lamar

219
00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:36,080
Speaker 3: Jackson fell turned out great. Sometimes falling is better because

220
00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,120
Speaker 3: you're not going to a dumpster fire of a franchise

221
00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,000
Speaker 3: where the coaching staff is going to get gutted in

222
00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,400
Speaker 3: a year or two, right, and you're not going to

223
00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,440
Speaker 3: a crap team with an offensive line issue. Like sometimes

224
00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,880
Speaker 3: going to a better team could work in your favor.

225
00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's assuming though, that you have the goods to

226
00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:56,840
Speaker 1: make it work out in your favor. And by all accounts, now, okay, vagueization.

227
00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,280
Speaker 1: By a handful of accounts, Will Levis is the guy

228
00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,520
Speaker 1: who looks great, fits the mold, has everything that you

229
00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,560
Speaker 1: think you're looking for. But he's just not that guy.

230
00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,840
Speaker 1: And there's no shame in that. Right. The problem, though, is,

231
00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,760
Speaker 1: and this is not your fault, this is just the

232
00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,439
Speaker 1: media in general, agents dictate a how a lot of

233
00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,800
Speaker 1: these mock drafts go on. It's hey, my guy, I'm

234
00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,480
Speaker 1: getting a lot of buzz from this team and this

235
00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,720
Speaker 1: team and this team about this quarterback and this player.

236
00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:30,320
Speaker 1: So suddenly your favorite columnist that Fox Sports or ESPN,

237
00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,240
Speaker 1: NFL Network CBS is gonna say, well, Will Levis, I'm

238
00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,800
Speaker 1: hearing is really hot for seven different teams, so I'm

239
00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,040
Speaker 1: gonna put him higher my mock draft, and as you

240
00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,839
Speaker 1: see it start to play out in real time, or

241
00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,120
Speaker 1: if you're listening to guys who no more information but

242
00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,000
Speaker 1: they are not paid to put out mock drafts, they'll

243
00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,400
Speaker 1: tell you well, he was never that high to begin with.

244
00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,960
Speaker 1: This is just all media creation. This is buzz being

245
00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:57,640
Speaker 1: created by people outside of NFL locker rooms, NFL brain trusts,

246
00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,960
Speaker 1: and the more that we here into the wee hours

247
00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,560
Speaker 1: of Friday morning, he had guys like you know, Jay

248
00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,440
Speaker 1: Glazer suggesting that, yeah, I don't see him getting picked

249
00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:09,960
Speaker 1: here in this pot. I don't see it. He's just

250
00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,439
Speaker 1: going down the list. Every time they bring up during

251
00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,600
Speaker 1: a broadcast, well what about here? What about here? He's like, no,

252
00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,680
Speaker 1: I do. They are not really high on him. Albert

253
00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:20,600
Speaker 1: Brier publishing something late on Thursday night into Friday morning

254
00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,200
Speaker 1: about what NFL teams were saying about the quarterbacks, and

255
00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,560
Speaker 1: he has saying that there was a buzz building up

256
00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,160
Speaker 1: in the week leading up to the draft about Will

257
00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,040
Speaker 1: Levis that didn't exist before this last week. So maybe

258
00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,280
Speaker 1: it's the Reddit thing. Maybe it's just these guys smoke

259
00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,720
Speaker 1: screening it. But it wouldn't make sense in my opinion,

260
00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,040
Speaker 1: that Will Levis would suddenly have this surge of interest

261
00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,040
Speaker 1: in the last you know, ninety six hours that didn't

262
00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,080
Speaker 1: exist before. I think this was all agent driven, media drivenff.

263
00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,520
Speaker 3: I'm just wondering, Like, I like, Breery comes on the pod.

264
00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:56,079
Speaker 3: I know him, we text, he's a pal. Why didn't

265
00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,079
Speaker 3: he write that when there was buzz because maybe he

266
00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,720
Speaker 3: thought he was getting smoke screened or like, I don't know, like,

267
00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,560
Speaker 3: why wasn't that I didn't read that anywhere that Levis

268
00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,120
Speaker 3: could fall out of the first round.

269
00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:07,839
Speaker 1: Boy, Yeah, I don't think anyone was saying out of

270
00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,280
Speaker 1: the first round. You didn't see anyone go on record

271
00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:12,200
Speaker 1: with anything like that. No.

272
00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, given it looked like he was

273
00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,480
Speaker 3: being held, he was in good hands. I'll just leave

274
00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,000
Speaker 3: it at that. At the draft and I'm sure at

275
00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,400
Speaker 3: the hotel tonight, listen, he's gonna be okay, It's gonna

276
00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:24,680
Speaker 3: be fine.

277
00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,800
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

278
00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,200
Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports radio

279
00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,440
Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to

280
00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:36,200
Speaker 2: listen live.

281
00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,800
Speaker 3: Now, let me quickly break down what I thought were

282
00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,720
Speaker 3: a couple, Rob, You feel free to disagree. You know,

283
00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,880
Speaker 3: I've been bullish on the Detroit Lions. I have hyped

284
00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,240
Speaker 3: the hell out of this team heading into this upcoming season.

285
00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:49,680
Speaker 3: I've made the case that they could be the third

286
00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,840
Speaker 3: best team in the NFC. I think they're the team

287
00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,160
Speaker 3: to beat in the NFC North. I love everything about

288
00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,880
Speaker 3: what the Lions did, and it has all fallen apart

289
00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,240
Speaker 3: in about a week. Jamison Williams, who was hurt and

290
00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:02,800
Speaker 3: missed almost all the last year. I think he had

291
00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,600
Speaker 3: one catch, gets popped for gambling on college football, six

292
00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:11,600
Speaker 3: game suspension. Then the Lions in the draft. You know

293
00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,200
Speaker 3: they're sitting at six. You're at a great spot. Hey,

294
00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:19,120
Speaker 3: maybe they take the Maybe they take a quarterback Jared Goff,

295
00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,480
Speaker 3: big contract, You get a quarterback on a rookie deal.

296
00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,640
Speaker 3: Maybe there's something there. They decide, you know what, we

297
00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,440
Speaker 3: can collect extra picks and trade back. Oh well, that's

298
00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,280
Speaker 3: a great idea. Arizona Cardinals hard up to get Kyler

299
00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:35,640
Speaker 3: Murray's guy, Paris Johnson. Unbelievable. I cannot recall Rob a

300
00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,880
Speaker 3: team no I'm sorry. Two teams trading into the top

301
00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,200
Speaker 3: six to get a position other than a quarterback. I

302
00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,960
Speaker 3: mean the text is traded up for an edge rusher.

303
00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,120
Speaker 3: The Arizona Cardinals traded up for a tackle. Like you're

304
00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,720
Speaker 3: giving up picks down the road for a non quarterback.

305
00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,600
Speaker 3: That's insanity at any rate. So the Detroit Lions fall

306
00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,600
Speaker 3: back from six to twelve, and I'm like, all right, twelve,

307
00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,680
Speaker 3: let's see, Okay, there's some options here. Maybe they go

308
00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,680
Speaker 3: with an edge rusher. Right, there's some Jackson Smith the JIGBA,

309
00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,600
Speaker 3: how about that? I mean, goodness, Grace. They got a

310
00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,840
Speaker 3: lot of options. Detroit had options of a lot. I mean,

311
00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,920
Speaker 3: Broderick Jones, well, they don't really mean an offensive line,

312
00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,960
Speaker 3: and they got a good offensive line. Broderick Jones was

313
00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,920
Speaker 3: still out there, got a lot of options. Christian Gozalez

314
00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,560
Speaker 3: was kind of falling. You're like, jeez, det that Lion

315
00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,920
Speaker 3: secondary stings. Jeff Acuda's gone. They signed a couple guys,

316
00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,160
Speaker 3: one of them on a one year deal. They end

317
00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,680
Speaker 3: up taking in We could argue this was the surprise

318
00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,440
Speaker 3: of the first round, and there were many surprises. Jamiir Gibbs,

319
00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,000
Speaker 3: the running back from Alabama. I've been doing mocks for

320
00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,080
Speaker 3: Fox Sports. I had him in one mock like five

321
00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,960
Speaker 3: months ago. He is really nice. He will He looks

322
00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,640
Speaker 3: like Alvin Kamara with that stutter step and the speed

323
00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,160
Speaker 3: and the frame. He's talented. He was at Georgia Tech.

324
00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,760
Speaker 3: Obviously has a good year there. Alabama's like, come on down.

325
00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys remember this, the hardcore

326
00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,560
Speaker 3: listeners will remember. I go to Vegas every year to

327
00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,400
Speaker 3: sign up for the NFL gambling contest and I place futures.

328
00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,800
Speaker 3: I had a future ticket on Jamiir Gibbs to win

329
00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,760
Speaker 3: the Heisman. It was a long shot, but coming into Bama,

330
00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,840
Speaker 3: I was like, this guy's gonna put up massive numbers

331
00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,880
Speaker 3: Alabama running backs do. He's a he's a receiver, he's

332
00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,560
Speaker 3: a running back. I liked him, not a twelve overall.

333
00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,800
Speaker 3: What the hell are you doing a running back? And

334
00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:24,080
Speaker 3: Rob this is compounding matters. Okay, they already have DeAndre

335
00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,280
Speaker 3: Swift coming back. And oh, by the way, they just

336
00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,760
Speaker 3: signed David Montgomery from the Bears to a three year,

337
00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,119
Speaker 3: eighteen million dollar deal. What on earth are you doing?

338
00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,080
Speaker 3: And I know you lost. Jamal Williams are running back

339
00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,480
Speaker 3: at the goal line, and yeah, sure, Gibbs is change

340
00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,480
Speaker 3: of pace guy. He's got the four four speed rob

341
00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,160
Speaker 3: this if you look back since twenty eighteen, the last

342
00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,320
Speaker 3: running back to go in the top twenty with Saquon Barkley,

343
00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,480
Speaker 3: and now you've got two in the top twelve. That

344
00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,520
Speaker 3: is insanity. And I will remind people what's going on

345
00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,640
Speaker 3: with Saquon Barkley injuries and he's not got the franchise tag.

346
00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,680
Speaker 3: This is just hideous. I'm frankly, I'm embarrassed for the Lions.

347
00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,320
Speaker 3: But but but it gets worse. You guys remember that

348
00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,520
Speaker 3: rap song rob You don't right? Nineties nineties? Oh my goodness,

349
00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,440
Speaker 3: slam onyx no song.

350
00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,760
Speaker 1: But I don't remember that line. But I remember that.

351
00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:22,359
Speaker 3: But wait, it gets worse.

352
00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:27,280
Speaker 1: I don't remember that slam. Yeah, okay, that's all I

353
00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:27,880
Speaker 1: remember from.

354
00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,720
Speaker 3: That that song can thump with two twelve inch subs

355
00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,359
Speaker 3: in the trunk? I would know at any rate. So

356
00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,679
Speaker 3: the Lions then they're sitting at eighteen. You're like, all right,

357
00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,440
Speaker 3: let's see what do we go? Jackson said the jig

358
00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,080
Speaker 3: but still on the board. Come on, that's that's I

359
00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,880
Speaker 3: like that. You got the kid Banks the cornerback. They

360
00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,160
Speaker 3: got options, they go for a freaking linebacker and not

361
00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,159
Speaker 3: like an edge rusher linebacker, like one of these six

362
00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,840
Speaker 3: four and forty five pound linebackers. Like what the hell

363
00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,720
Speaker 3: is Dan Camble doing? I mean, guys, and this is

364
00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,200
Speaker 3: even worse. So I was so upset with the Lions

365
00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,159
Speaker 3: I would give them an F. I like the I

366
00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,480
Speaker 3: mean you could, like the players still go him an

367
00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,160
Speaker 3: F because could those guys couldn't be around the second

368
00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:07,080
Speaker 3: round here twenty eighteen, right, this is that was a

369
00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:11,359
Speaker 3: round round where four linebackers were taken in the first round.

370
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,719
Speaker 3: This is what happens to linebackers when you take them

371
00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,639
Speaker 3: in the first round. Rokwan Smith went eight. Remember what

372
00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,080
Speaker 3: happened to him, Robb The Bears shipped him out of town. Now,

373
00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,359
Speaker 3: he did get paid by the Ravens, but I mean

374
00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,280
Speaker 3: that's a bad deal. But bottom belind the team that

375
00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,120
Speaker 3: drafted him ended up trading him. Then the Buffalo Bills

376
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,760
Speaker 3: got tre Made Edmonds at sixteen. He gone, he's on

377
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,920
Speaker 3: another team. I don't even know who it is. Nineteenth

378
00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,880
Speaker 3: Leyton vander esh He started out good, remember, and then

379
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,000
Speaker 3: his fifth year option got declined and he signed two

380
00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,679
Speaker 3: like cheap one or two year deals in Dallas. Twenty

381
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,600
Speaker 3: second Rashaan Evans out of Alabama. Now, if you're like,

382
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,680
Speaker 3: wait a minute, wait a minute, Brashaan Evans, Yeah, you

383
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,720
Speaker 3: forgot him. He was dumped by the Titans, went to

384
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,320
Speaker 3: the Falcons. He is currently not signed, folks, this is

385
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:59,679
Speaker 3: five years ago. Linebackers do not matter. They don't now

386
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 3: the Niners and you have an elite, amazing superstar in

387
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,159
Speaker 3: the middle of your defense, that's one thing, but you

388
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 3: win in the trenches. Rob. I'm just so disappointed with

389
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,399
Speaker 3: the frigid Detroit Lions.

390
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 1: And rightfully so, more so for the second pick I

391
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,359
Speaker 1: think than the first pick though. I mean, again, this

392
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,200
Speaker 1: is all in exact science right now, but the Athletic

393
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,119
Speaker 1: published something right after round one had wrapped saying, what

394
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 1: were the biggest reaches of the last like five years

395
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 1: in each first round? And obviously my Raiders had like

396
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,719
Speaker 1: two of them in the last five years that they

397
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,359
Speaker 1: said we're biggest reaches. But one of them that they

398
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 1: listed was in fact linebacker Jack Campbell. Relative no that

399
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,959
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't. They don't give letter grade. They

400
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 1: say what relative to their consensus rankings. Who was the

401
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 1: biggest reach and to them, Jack Campbell was it this year?

402
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 1: The guy who came in second this year? Your guy

403
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 1: Will McDonald for Iowa State. Ta.

404
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 3: Oh No, Let me just say a quick thing about

405
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 3: Campbell because I know, I know some Lions fans listen

406
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 3: to this, because they send me messages. I don't not

407
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 3: like Campbell. I mean, this guy led the country in tackles,

408
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 3: First team All American Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year.

409
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 3: He's a hard nosed, tough sobat do I want him

410
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,399
Speaker 3: hitting me? You coming over the middle, of course not. Now.

411
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,120
Speaker 3: The value in a player like this is he's gonna

412
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 3: come in the locker room, be a culture setter, he's

413
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 3: gonna work hard, he's gonna be first one in, last

414
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 3: guy out. You know that Iowa mantra of just being

415
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 3: a tough guy who's really really good and just a

416
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 3: solid football player. The problem is you can find those

417
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 3: guys after eighteen. Is Jack Campbell gonna have a ten

418
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 3: year career with the Lions almost certainly not. Could a

419
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 3: left tackle or an edge rusher more likely the history

420
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 3: when you look at the numbers and the contracts, linebackers

421
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 3: just they come and go. They're very replaceable. And last year,

422
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 3: by the way, I think the Lions started two rookies

423
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 3: at linebacker, or they started a rookie. The kid Malcolm

424
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 3: Malcolm Rodriguez I think is his name. I only know

425
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 3: because he's dating this influencer in Detroit who has really

426
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 3: good content. You should check her out. And that's the

427
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 3: only reason I know that. And then I looked him.

428
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 3: I was like, he's a rookie, he's starting yet. No, No,

429
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 3: I've gotten Rob. You know these video when I go

430
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,719
Speaker 3: on vacation with the family and we get these videos

431
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 3: and it's all like cut up and it looks cool.

432
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 3: M I got. I've gotten all these ideas from her.

433
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 3: She gets them. And then I say, what app is

434
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 3: that she knows all the good apps because she's like

435
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 3: on top of all this stuff, and you know, she's

436
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 3: really a big deal in Detroit. Anyway, she's dating this

437
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 3: Lions guy and their linebacker last she was good, like,

438
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 3: you can find linebackers in the fourth fifth round at

439
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 3: any rate. I'm sorry, Rob, can you No?

440
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: It's okay. Well, I think we've exhausted that conversation, linebacker.

441
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 1: But the one that I wanted to disagree with you

442
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: a bit respectfully, was the Jimeer Gibbs selection. Now, after

443
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: the draft, Brad Holmes was asked about it and specifically

444
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift, and his answer was, he's still on our

445
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: roster and then he's ad. So that's never a good

446
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: sign when that's that your first opening sentence to a

447
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: statement about your starting running back.

448
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 3: Okay, so they anticipate bumping Swift.

449
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 1: It definitely feels that way. He went on to say,

450
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: more like, yay, it's an anamic player. We're happy he's on

451
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 1: his team. But when your first response to a question

452
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 1: is he's still in our roster, he's still part of

453
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: our team, he's still under contract, that usually implies that

454
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: we're trying to trade this guy. But the reason why

455
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 1: I didn't hate the Jamir Gibbs pick and to a

456
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: lesser extent, the Bajon Robinson pick, is neither one of

457
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 1: those guys are like throwback proto type running backs from

458
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties early two thousands, Like this is not

459
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: you know, a Jamal Lewis who's going to run between

460
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: the tackles and just grind you out, Like these guys

461
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: are more in the Christian McCaffrey, Alvin Kamara mold where

462
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 1: you'll give them twelve to fourteen touches inside the tackles,

463
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: but you're also going to give them four or five

464
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: targets in the past game. And when you have a

465
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: guy that's that versatile where it's not so obvious when

466
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 1: you have him lined up like a Zeke Ellie, like

467
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: a Michael Barti said yesterday, where if Zeke's in, you

468
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 1: know we're gonna run the football like there's no if

469
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: as a butts about it. When you have a guy

470
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: like Robinson and Gibbs, they can come out in a

471
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: power eye formation and shift and then they're in a

472
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: spread and next thing you know, he's matching up on

473
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: an inside linebacker and he's getting him on a quick slant.

474
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: So when you have guys who can be used multi dimensionally,

475
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: I don't have an issue with you reaching to get

476
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you think it's gonna help your offense.

477
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll accept that we should probably move on from

478
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 3: the Lions because you talked about him a lot. I

479
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 3: already said I didn't like the Washington pick of Emmanuel Forbes.

480
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 3: And this is just you know, Belichick, stay's winning. So Belichick,

481
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 3: they were at fourteen. They kind of screwed the Jets

482
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 3: as soon as the Packers got Lucas van Ness, who

483
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 3: I had mocked to the Packers or Patriots for a while.

484
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 3: The Packers traded up with the Jets thirteen and fifteen,

485
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 3: and then Rogers deal. Packers get van Ness, who's just

486
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 3: the quintessential Packers guy. But he was also the perfect

487
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 3: Patriots guy. So Patriots, hey, he's off the board. They're like, well,

488
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 3: I don't know, let's trade down. So they go to seventeen.

489
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 3: Of course Steelers come up. What do they get? Broderick Jones.

490
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 3: The reason I liked him, among other reasons, he had

491
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 3: an offer from Alabama in the ninth grade, ended up

492
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: at Georgia. Alabama offering you a ninth grade and you're

493
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 3: a tackle. It's kind of a big deal. This is

494
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 3: an unbelievable stat Last year at Georgia, four hundred and

495
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 3: forty five pass blocking snaps, gave up zero sacks. Decent

496
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 3: in the SEC anyways, So the Steelers get him, good

497
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 3: pick and the Patriots I will go down to seventeen.

498
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 3: They end up getting Christian Gonzalez, kid out of Oregon,

499
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: who rob I'm sure you saw him a little. I

500
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 3: think he was Colorado than Oregon. I'm telling you. At

501
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 3: the combine he was dominant. I don't know why he

502
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 3: would fall. I still don't get it. Well, I have

503
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 3: to see what comes out. But the Patriots got a

504
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 3: guy at seventeen that a lot of people had mocked

505
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 3: in the top ten. Now, just because they're mocked in

506
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 3: the top ten doesn't mean they're top ten worthy. But

507
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 3: a guy like Daniel Jeremiah, who we have on the podcast,

508
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 3: I trust his work. Kuiper's been doing this a while.

509
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 3: You know, there's a couple other guys out there you value.

510
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 3: Uiper's not great by any stretch, but Kiper's a great entertainer.

511
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 3: Like his work. Is he grat at mock drafts. I

512
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 3: don't think he's great at any rate. Most most guys

513
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 3: that I value had Christian Gonzales in the top ten

514
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 3: or eleven, and for the Patriots to get him at seventeen,

515
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 3: it's just Belichick winning once again. Other notes that I had.

516
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 3: I know some people are mocking the Bears for this. Darnell, right,

517
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 3: but if you listen closely to the pod two weeks ago,

518
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 3: maybe it was this week, I had said Darnell Wright

519
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 3: versus Will Anderson that Tennessee Alabama matchup. Go watch that matchup.

520
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 3: Darnell Wright kind of wrecked Will Anderson. Anderson could not

521
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 3: get around him. That was the great forty eight to

522
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 3: forty five game. I think that was the score fifty

523
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 3: one to forty at whatever. It was, tremendous game. Darnell

524
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 3: Wright really did a great job against Will Anderson, like

525
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 3: Anderson couldn't get around him. Now, I know some of

526
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 3: the reports on Darnell Wright were like, ah, wait a minute,

527
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 3: come on, this is what are they doing here? This

528
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: guy with short arms and slow forty time? You know?

529
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 3: Is he that good? Why are we taking him over

530
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 3: Broderick Jones? I get it, but I think he's a good, good, good,

531
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: good fit in Chicago. I actually don't like it. I

532
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 3: think he's a little undervalued. I've read a little too

533
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 3: much about him that I just like his story or

534
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 3: rob anything about what do we go to your raiders

535
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 3: before I tackle the Jets?

536
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: Don't love the pick. It has nothing against the players.

537
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: I think Tyree Wilson is an absolute specimen. I think

538
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: it totally made sense why he was being mocked a

539
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: lot of times to Houston at three before the draft.

540
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: He is a special special talent. My concern though, is

541
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: the Raiders just gave Chandler Jones a bajillion dollars last year,

542
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: and obviously he didn't perform well, so they doubled down

543
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: and invest more premium equity into another pass rusher, which

544
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: would make sense, like you're saying, hey, we missed out

545
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: on Chandler Jones, didn't work out, we got to replace him.

546
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: But Tyree Wilson, as explosive as he is as his

547
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: potential through the roof, he's also coming off a Liszt

548
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: Frank injury. So if you're going to double dip like that,

549
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: I'd much rather you have gotten a safer draft pick

550
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: like it seems like they're swinging for the fence on

551
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: this one, and I hope it works out. That'd be fantastic.

552
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: But when you're already investing that much money in challe

553
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: of Jones and it bombed, you invest a top ten

554
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: pick and another pass rusher with a question mark, that

555
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: that's me. I'm a little bit concerned about that part.

556
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: I have.

557
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 3: I don't have similar concerns. I remember I didn't love

558
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: the fact that he worked out with nobody. If you

559
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 3: guys are Raiders fans who want to feel rob g

560
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 3: go listen to mich Lombardi when he was on here. Yeah,

561
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 3: I mean he really likes Tyree Wilson. I have reluctant

562
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 3: trading for a guy or drafting a guy sorry, who

563
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 3: hasn't worked out for us for four months and like

564
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 3: his foot yeah injury? Yeah, like come on, like is

565
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: he gonna need a second surgery?

566
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: Foot?

567
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: Kind of a big deal. Anyways, So the Jets after

568
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: Broderick Jones was off the board. I would not have

569
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: been upset if they had gone with the kid Harrison

570
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 3: from Oklahoma, but I thought he could have been had

571
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 3: later he went, I think in the late twenty twenty seven.

572
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 3: So I'm thinking, okay, Well, I'm okay with Michael Mayer.

573
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: I really like it. But what about Jackston Smith? The

574
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: JIGBA people forget two years ago, how freakin good this

575
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: guy was last year? You know, the hamstring blah blah blah.

576
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: At any rate, they go with Will McDonald, a twenty three

577
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 3: year old edge rusher out of Iowa State. He turns

578
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 3: twenty four in June, and this is gonna be six

579
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 3: four two forty kind of light. I mean I would

580
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: have preferred Nolan Smith, the younger kid out of Georgia.

581
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 3: I think what I'm gonna buy here is Joe Douglas.

582
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 3: Remember he drafted Jermaine Johnson. Do you remember we had

583
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: him on the pod last year, Rob, I do, right

584
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: the week of the draft, we have him on and

585
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: he slides a little bit and the Jets grab him

586
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 3: and he was pretty damn good.

587
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: This year.

588
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 3: I think he had a punt block as a rookie

589
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: and he was like a rotational guy. Now they're gonna

590
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: be dispatching somebody, so he's probably gonna start, and I

591
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 3: think m McDonald will be kind of a like a

592
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 3: situational pass rush. Sure, but I think he's going to

593
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: have an impact. Remember Sala came from San Francisco. What

594
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: did the Niners do? Bookend rushers and you just rotate

595
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: them Asala was there when they went to the Super

596
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 3: Bowl against the Chiefs. You just rotate, rotate and pressure

597
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: the quarterback. You have great cornerbacks in Sauce Gardner DJ Reid.

598
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 3: The defense should be good. I'm bullish Jets at forty three.

599
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm always best player on the board. Swing tackle, swing, guard,

600
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: What give me an offensive lineman? And if Michael Mayer,

601
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 3: the Notre Dame tight end falls, I'm all up in

602
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 3: on that. I think the Eagles by far were the

603
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: biggest winner. They've now drafted rob four Georgia players from

604
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: that historically great twenty twenty one defense. Jalen Carter fell

605
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: and at that point you're like, geez, Jalen Carter, how

606
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 3: many red flags this guy have? And then he goes

607
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 3: to the Eagles where he's going to be alongside Jordan Davis.

608
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 3: Do you remember how dominant they were in twenty twenty one?

609
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: And then they're like, oh, well, we see Nolan Smith falling,

610
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: let's grab him and Nolan Smith young guy coming off

611
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: an injury. That Eagles defense is just it's gonna be

612
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: it's gonna be nasty. I honestly think the Eagles probably

613
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 3: robbed probably a little irrational given what they did last year,

614
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: but they've done in the offseason. I think they have

615
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: to be the favorite in the NFC.

616
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: Agree, yeah, I mean, but I don't know even second

617
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: Dallas probably over the forty nine ers. The quarterback situation

618
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: is I Francisco is the reason why I wouldn't put

619
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: them you immediately second, because brock perty it's it's possible,

620
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: if not likely, that he misses at least half the

621
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: season because you know, it's a noble injury. And we

622
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: haven't seen anything fro Trey Lance that you think that

623
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: he's even a competent NFL quarterback, So it's it's hard

624
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: to overcome not having a quarterback. I did see that

625
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people were saying that the Eagles were

626
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: the big winners, and obviously, when you get two guys

627
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: with that kind of pedigree and potential that I understand

628
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: I'll be the old water guy.

629
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 3: Though.

630
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: Look, there's a reason why Jalen Carter fell that far

631
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: right the Chicago Bears. GM was asked about it. You know,

632
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: you had him right there. He could have taken him

633
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: at nine. You flip with the affilia for the tenth pick,

634
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: and he wouldn't comment on it specifically, but one thing

635
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: he did say is that character is very important for us.

636
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: So obviously, if Mike Lombardi says there's only two real

637
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: blue chip prospects in this draft, it's Bryce Young and

638
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter, and seven other teams have a chance to

639
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: take him and they don't that says a lot. I

640
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: mean him not finishing his his pro day says a lot. Right.

641
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: And Nolan Smith, I think that in college he was

642
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: a monster. I think he's a great pass rusher. The

643
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: only concern though, is I think he you know, he

644
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: weighed in like around two thirty five to thirty seven

645
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: something like that. He's like when you watch him on tape, though,

646
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: he doesn't look like he's that big. He doesn't even

647
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: look like he's two thirty five too. He looks like

648
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: he's closer to twenty five.

649
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 3: Gets a crazy up in him.

650
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: Maybe get him on that Jmack workout routine because you're

651
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: look at Jackie's they lose weight, bro, you can I

652
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: get those concerns. So that's that's the only thing. Like, Look, obviously,

653
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: if you're the Philadelphia Eagles, you have a pretty loaded roster,

654
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: so you can afford to take big swings. So I

655
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: understand that, But I just don't know if it's the

656
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: slam dunk that many people are making it out to be.

657
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: Considering that both of these guys fell for good reason.

658
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

659
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

660
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: Dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen.

661
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 3: Live surprises, Minnesota Vikings. You know Kirk Cousins. They can

662
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: get out of his deal in one year. Hendon Hooker,

663
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: they liked him a lot, three meetings with the GM.

664
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: The defense couldn't stop a nosebleed when Daniel Jones was

665
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: the freaking quarterback twice, including a playoff game at home,

666
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: and they draft Jordan Edison. I mean, I get you

667
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: lose dealing you want to replace him. I mean your

668
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 3: defense is garbage. You got beat badly by Daniel Jones twice,

669
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: you could not stop him on any important down, and

670
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: you go Jordan Aison. Well see, maybe they'll go defense

671
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 3: the rest of the way. Kind of surprised by the

672
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 3: Quintin Johnson to the Chargers Mike rob I said, Mike,

673
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: this probably means Mike Williams has one more year, right.

674
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably for good reason, because he can't stay healthy.

675
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: He does catch everything, though, Seattle's getting a lot of props.

676
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 3: Jackson's spit the JIGBT twenty to go with Metcalf and Locket.

677
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 3: That's pretty filthy. I'll be honest. I did not understand

678
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 3: the Devin Weatherspoon at five. I like Weatherspoon. I had

679
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 3: him going six. But Seattle historically has drafted corners great

680
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 3: later in the draft. Last year Sherman, et cetera. It's like,

681
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: is he that good?

682
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 2: Now?

683
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 3: Listen Seattle. They get that defensive front, the young guys

684
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 3: play that well again, like there's a chance they're the

685
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 3: third best team in the NFC. I will say, Rob,

686
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 3: I do like the Anthony Richardson to the Colts. I

687
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 3: don't think they're gonna be good next year. But let's

688
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: see what happens with DeAndre Hopkins. Right now that the

689
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 3: Ravens and we have barely talked about the Lamar Jackson thing,

690
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 3: Ravens added Zave Flowers in the draft. They have now

691
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: taken Robbie Ready for this a wide receiver in three

692
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: of the last five first rounds, Hollywood, Brown, Bateman, and Flowers.

693
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson now has the best and we were early

694
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: on this. Lamar has the best wide receiver room he's

695
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: ever had. And they added Flowers, Obj Flowers. Bateman, like

696
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 3: Devin Duvernet was like their number two last year. He's

697
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: like a four. They've got some dudes. I don't think

698
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: they go after Hopkins, but I do think there is

699
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 3: gonna be a market for Hopkins if he's not traded.

700
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna have to cut him out right.

701
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 3: He don't want to be there. He's probably not gonna play,

702
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 3: so you gotta wonder who who makes a move. I

703
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 3: would keep an eye on the Bears. I don't know

704
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 3: if he wants to play with Justin Fields, a young quarterback.

705
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: He probably wants to win at this point in his career.

706
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 3: Maybe Detroit in the mix, I don't know. But interesting

707
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 3: that Seattle goes cornerback early and wide receiver. I didn't

708
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 3: think either of those were in need position. But drafting

709
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 3: on need is not always the smartest move. Do we

710
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 3: miss anyone rob before we go to the NBA?

711
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I will say just quickly. I

712
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: didn't love the Zay Flowers pick. I think he's a

713
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: good player. I like his potential. I don't like that

714
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: The Baltimore Ravens situation with Lamar Jackson has always been

715
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: very straightforward. We're gonna throw the big body, tight ends

716
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: over the middle, and extremely fast wide receivers on the outside,

717
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: and Lamar throws a great deep ball, so I understand

718
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: that point. I know that he's not super accurate, but

719
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: at some point I would like to see them get

720
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: a big body, physical receiver on the outside with a

721
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: big range of big target U range and things like that.

722
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: And that's why I wanted him to get de Hop

723
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's gonna happen now at this point,

724
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: but there's only so many times you can have, you know,

725
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: four three guys running forty yards down the field, like

726
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: you know, at some point you got to run like

727
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: a stop or something short that's just going to move

728
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: the stick on the outside. And so that's my only pushback.

729
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would last thing on the draft the Houston Texans,

730
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 3: so my gut. And again we had the Texans guy

731
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 3: Lancer and on a zer line on this week. If

732
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 3: you missed, I think it was Wednesday's pot maybe Tuesday.

733
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 3: It's pretty clear that GM's job is in trouble, and

734
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 3: Lance said that the coach Jamico Ryans kind of has

735
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: the room there given how bad Nick Cassario has been

736
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 3: the GM. My guess is Caserio overruled everybody with CJ.

737
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 3: Stroud or Stroud won over the owner and then Damiko

738
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 3: Ryan said, listen, I didn't come here, you know, to

739
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 3: not have any say we got to go up and

740
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: get Will Anderson. And my guess is that's what went down,

741
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: because it's very odd, Rob, I can't remember the last

742
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 3: time a team draft to two then traded up to

743
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 3: get three. And I like inerton my gut tells me

744
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: that the texts is gonna be drafting in the top

745
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 3: five next year. Would you agree?

746
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: Yeah? That this was very Kevin Costner esque draft day,

747
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: one of the absolutely worst sports movies. And depending on

748
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: which analytics program you follow, I saw some people saying

749
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: that the Texans lost in excess of the first overall

750
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: pick with like the trade value chart in that trade.

751
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: There was some that said that they lost a mid

752
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: mid mid first rounder plus an additional like third or

753
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: fourth value wise, So almost everybody across the board, on

754
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: varying degree, said that they got absolutely murdered in that trade.

755
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 3: It was you trade up for a quarterback, You don't

756
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 3: trade up for really any other position. And nobody considers

757
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 3: Will Anderson like a Bosa at least that that I've seen.

758
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 3: Oh final thing, now, I forgot about this, Rob. This

759
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: kind of stuff irks me with the draft, and this

760
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 3: is why, I maintained we all think we know nobody knows.

761
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: Jack Squad Chris Mortenson. I don't know if you saw

762
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 3: this reported late in the first round. One of the

763
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: reasons Will Levis is tumbling is because there was a

764
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 3: toe issue that some team said you're gonna need surgery,

765
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 3: and Will Levis said, I don't need surgery. And it's like,

766
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: wait a minute, you guys have been going through this

767
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 3: process for four months and this is the first we've

768
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 3: heard of Will Levis's toe that may or may not

769
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 3: need surgery. Rob, tell me how the hell that happens,

770
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 3: because I know, I know what my answer is.

771
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: My guess is that's an agent conversation.

772
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so they hid this from everyone. No team

773
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: is really giving up any really goods or somebody would

774
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: have leaked this Levis tothing, right, Maybe they don't want

775
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 3: to damage the guy, but like, what kind of reporting

776
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 3: is that, Oh, as he's falling twenty picks later, Oh,

777
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 3: there's this toe thing, he may need surgery. Just some

778
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 3: chicken shit stuff that annoys me. Anyways, let's quickly go NBA.

779
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: Did you Rob, did you watch a lot of Hawks Celtics?

780
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Actually, I did see the most important last

781
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: four minutes. So yes, that's about it.

782
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 3: I had it on TV two. Every time I look up,

783
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: the Hawks are scoring at will Well and finally you're right,

784
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 3: it's like one thirteen to ten Hawks. I'm like, shit,

785
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 3: is this gonna go seven? Because you know, things happen

786
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 3: in game seven somebody turns an ankle and then basically

787
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 3: the Celtics took over nine to nothing. Run Marcus Smart

788
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: playing well, Jalen Brown playing well, Tatum dunk back, and

789
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 3: the Hawks are dead. I'm just gonna say this. Rob

790
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: The fight from the Hawks the last two games kind

791
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 3: of impressive. I don't think they need to make wholesale

792
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 3: changes despite the first round loss. Quin Steinder was only

793
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: there for like what two months. I like the Hawks

794
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 3: matchups matter, and listen, we gotta be honest with ourselves.

795
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 3: I don't give a shit how good the Bucks were

796
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 3: the last three regular seasons. I don't know how much

797
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: I trust this team going forward, Like we think there's

798
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 3: gonna be major things going on. Brook Lopez is a

799
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: free agent. Middleton will see what happens with his deal.

800
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 3: I don't know what happens with Budenholzer. I don't know

801
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 3: if they fire him, But that was a ghastly series

802
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 3: against the Heat, and it now sets up what the

803
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 3: NBA has to love. Rob, Celtics six or Nicks Heat.

804
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: Those are I think the three biggest three the five

805
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 3: biggest media markets in the country, right Philly, Boston, New

806
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: York and the Heat, who have a following thanks to

807
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 3: I think Lebron and Dwayne Wade. Knicks are actually favored

808
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 3: slightly against the Heat. I think I saw minus one

809
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 3: sixty for the series. Celtics are like like minus two

810
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 3: fifty against the Sixers, slightly heavier favorites. I'm gonna go

811
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 3: ahead and lean Celtics Knicks, and that's just like a

812
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 3: wet dream for TNT or ESPN whoever hosts that. That's

813
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: I think Celtics Knicks would be really good. Any early

814
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: leans on that. Rob.

815
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you, and you laughed at me.

816
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: I think it was this time last week and I said,

817
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: watch out for the New York Knicks that think you

818
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: get to run to the Eastern Finals.

819
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

820
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 1: And now Randall.

821
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 3: Randall though, is.

822
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 1: Hurt again, right, But the one thing that we saw

823
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: in against Cleveland is that Julius Randall was not very

824
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: effective outside of you know, the game he got hurt?

825
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: Is what game five wasn't shooting the ball well, didn't

826
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: look as explosive as he looked in the regular season,

827
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: and yet that didn't seem to matter. Like they got

828
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: this this really stingy defense, Obi Toppin was finally let

829
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: out of his cage a little bit, provided some spacing, rights,

830
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: some energy. I know Jimmy Butler is looking like a

831
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer right now, but I do like New

832
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: York in this series. And as far as Boston and Philly,

833
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: I think this might be a sweet I don't think

834
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: Philly has anything to match up at all with what

835
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: Boston can bring. Couple that with the knee issue for

836
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: Joel Embiid, this one could be over quickly.

837
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 3: I think the Hawks have better a better offense than

838
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: the Sixers. I know the numbers don't bear that out,

839
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 3: but Atlanta did they Boston could not really stop them.

840
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: They just couldn't. Atlanta has a lot of guys. Joel

841
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: Ebid's better than anyone on Atlanta, but like you said,

842
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: he's hurt. I'm just gonna point this out with the

843
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 3: heat because I know a lot of people would be like, oh,

844
00:42:55,560 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 3: disrespecting the Heat again, Jay, I see the Milwaukee Bucks

845
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 3: like game plan is, we will permit threes, but we're

846
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: gonna protect the room. You're not gonna score inside on us,

847
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 3: so we'll let you shoot a bunch of threes. The

848
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 3: problem is, and that, by the way, that should have

849
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 3: been good against the Heat, who I think ran twenty

850
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 3: seventh in the league shooting threes. I think I mentioned

851
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: that yesterday. So I looked this up. Rob Are you

852
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: ready for this? The Heat shot forty five percent on

853
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 3: threes in the series forty five. That's Curry, like Jimmy

854
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 3: Butler was forty four percent on threes, Gabe vincent forty two,

855
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: Kevin Love, Kevin Love, Yes that Kevin Love forty three percent.

856
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 3: And then I had to triple check this, Rob Duncan.

857
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 3: Robinson shot seventy three percent on threes in the five

858
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 3: game series seventy three, fourteen of nineteen. The Knicks will

859
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 3: absolutely not be giving up any of that. So how

860
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 3: will the Heat then score in the half court Because

861
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 3: they're not gonna get these open threes that they got

862
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: against the Buck. So that's the main reason I like

863
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 3: the Knicks, even without Randall, I think they'll be fine.

864
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 3: Randall probably would be an issue for the Heat because

865
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 3: the Cavs had what's his name Mobley to match up

866
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 3: with Randall. I mean, are you gonna put Bam on

867
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: Randall and then you're pulling Bam, your only room protector

868
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 3: out of lane? You would have Kevin Love on the inside.

869
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. And let's go to tonight's games. Rob

870
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 3: nervous level for the Lakers. Man if ten is, OMG,

871
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 3: we're gonna blow a three one lead for me, I'll

872
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: put it at a eight point five.

873
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: Your level, wow, like a three If that you think

874
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 1: it's oh, I think it's a done deal. I don't

875
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: think there's any I think that the based on what

876
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: I think Lebron went into Game five expecting that they

877
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: were gonna win, that they was gonna come back to

878
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: Game six. I think that his energy level, especially early on,

879
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: was minimal. I thought that he was settling for a

880
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: lot of threes. He didn't want to drive into the pain,

881
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: bring any wear and tear into his body. I think

882
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: he attempted. I think more than half of his shots

883
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: were from three point lan. Now, obviously he didn't make

884
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 1: any of he was like one for nine.

885
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 3: One for nine, yep, five to seventeen overall.

886
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he wasn't even looking to assert himself in

887
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: the paint. I think he knew very quickly that they

888
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: couldn't match Memphis energy. I'm just gonna, you know, if

889
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: I can bomb away from three and make a bunch

890
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: of Maybell win that way. But he didn't. Definitely did

891
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: not look as locked in as I expect him to.

892
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be a game where he

893
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 1: and ad are both going to play in the mid

894
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: forties and as far as minutes, whether even if it's

895
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: in a regulation. I think the Lakers are gonna stomp

896
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: on the throat of MEMPHISI this is gonna be over.

897
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna get Warriors Lakers Game one on Sunday.

898
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 3: As if the Grizzlies didn't have enough injuries, Luke Canard

899
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 3: has a shoulder thing. I don't know if it's a

900
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 3: shooting shoulder.

901
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 1: But he couldn't finish it, couldn't finish Game five.

902
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 3: They Yeah, he did leave early. They did not. They

903
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 3: have no bench like after Luke Canard, it's conchar Uh,

904
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: roddy al Dama, who else. Kenny lofton'sire will yeah, like

905
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 3: I don't see it. The thing that scares me is

906
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 3: if Desmond Bine goes off, I don't what do you

907
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 3: do because they've had Vanderbilt mostly on Ja Morant and

908
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: Austin Reeves on Bain. Those are your two you So

909
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: that's the problem out you have those two and then

910
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 3: you have Lebron and Ad And who's the fifth guy?

911
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: Is it Ruey? Because Ruey had a little regression there

912
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: in Game five. They can't play Ad at center without Gabriel.

913
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 3: You know this. I get really pissed when Darvinham doesn't

914
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 3: get it. As have you seen the stats? Hold up

915
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: the stats with Ad off the court? I hope I

916
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: didn't delete it. Okay, Ad sitting in the first quarter

917
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: when the Lakers went small, Memphis won our thirteen to

918
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 3: four run in the second quarter when they were like, oh,

919
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: we're gonna say a D but we gotta put Gabriel

920
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 3: and it was only five four Memphis late third. This

921
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 3: is the point I talked about it yesterday's pod. That

922
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 3: pissed me off. No Ad, no, no Gabriel, seven nothing Memphis.

923
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 3: So in the first and third, no Ad, no Gabriel,

924
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 3: twenty to four Memphis. They just attacked a hoop, Rob.

925
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 3: Nobody's afraid of Ruy Hachimura. And I'm sorry, but Lebron

926
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 3: is thirty eight. He's not like a room protector. And

927
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 3: then in the fourth they went Gabriel, but it was

928
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 3: mostly garbage time. Rob. If Darvinham keeps his bullshit up tonight,

929
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: there's a chance I'm breaking something because it ain't gonna work.

930
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: Vanderbilt is not your center. I'm not asking for heavy

931
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 3: Gabriel minutes. Are you with me? Or do you think

932
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 3: he's just so go small?

933
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: No? I totally agree with you. And then that's why

934
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: I think that eighty's gonna play heavy minutes. I think

935
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna play at least forty. But whatever he doesn't,

936
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: whether that's seven, eight minutes, five minutes, four minutes, it's

937
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: got to be another center.

938
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 3: And how do you want them defending John Bain?

939
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna stick with what they've been doing,

940
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: even if it hasn't been as effective the last few games.

941
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: What I would have done personally is I would have

942
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: flipped it. I would have put Austin Reeves on John Morant,

943
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: and I would have put Jared Vanderbilt and Desmon Baine,

944
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: because it's been It's pretty clear at this point that

945
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: as good of a defender as Jared Vanderbilt is, it

946
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: doesn't matter for John Morant. He's too quick. He can

947
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: get the high pick and roll is gonna get Vanderbilt

948
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: off him long enough to get into the paint, and

949
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: he can shoot a little floater. His jumper has been

950
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: falling pretty well in this series, So at that point,

951
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: I wouldn't waste my best defender on a guy who's

952
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: just gonna screen roll him all day.

953
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 3: Okay, you know, the only pushback would be jaw attacks

954
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 3: relentlessly and foul trouble could be an issue. And I

955
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 3: think Reeves is more valuable than Vanderbilt the offensive end.

956
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 3: Reeves can create seventeen to eight rebound, six assists, but

957
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 3: it's not ideal. And then the problem is, Okay, one

958
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 3: of those guys goes out, Danzel, Russell Kinkard, either of

959
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: those guys, right, that's obvious. Who is it? Troy Brown Beasley?

960
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 3: Are we gonna see Lonnie Walker?

961
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: Rob I'd much rather see Lonnie Walker than Malik Beasley.

962
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 3: At this point, Beasley's on the struggle bus. I'm over

963
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,479
Speaker 3: Troy Brown. But as we know role players play well

964
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 3: at home, maybe the Lakers deliver and finally, so anyways,

965
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 3: four and a half? Are you looking Lakers or grizz Lakers?

966
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 3: I like the confidence. I don't think I can ride

967
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 3: with you. That's the thing. I don't think I could

968
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 3: ride Kings because this team's not going out without a fight.

969
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: There.

970
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't. I would go over under one uh

971
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 3: over under half a technical for the Kings. No in

972
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 3: the game, Lakers, gris oh, Lakers, Oh, it'll probably be

973
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 3: one and a half over I think Memphis. If Memphis

974
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 3: is going down, they're not going down without a fight.

975
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. But I think the

976
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: Lakers ultimately pull away in the fourth quarter.

977
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 3: And then we could wrap it with Warriors Kings at

978
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 3: Golden State. I think if the Warriors come in thinking, oh,

979
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 3: we're safe, we got it, they will lose. Would not

980
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 3: shock me at all. But Fox oh for six in

981
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, it felt a little dicey form. I

982
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 3: don't know if the Figer was acting up. I don't

983
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 3: know who their third score is going to because Sabonas

984
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 3: has not played well at Oracle or Chase Center. Whatever.

985
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 3: Warriors seven and a half feels like a big number.

986
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: No kind of as far as from a betting perspective,

987
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: I love Sacramento in the spot to cover the seven

988
00:49:58,560 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: and a half. I don't think they're not gonna win,

989
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: but just because they all the great shooting and great

990
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: offense they had in the regular season, it disappeared like

991
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: they outside of what was a Game one, yeah, Game

992
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: two the fourth quarter and Game five the first quarter,

993
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: they just forgot how to shoot. Kevin Herder again, I

994
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: told him we can't call him Red Velvet anymore on

995
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: this podcast because he stopped shooting. You know, Malik Munk

996
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: has been hot and cold. Keithan Murray had a big outburst,

997
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 1: and then they didn't do anything after that. So if

998
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,959
Speaker 1: their shooting does not return to its regular season form,

999
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,240
Speaker 1: there's no way they can win this game. But because

1000
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: I expect them to be scrappy, they're seasons on the line,

1001
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: I think they cover the seven and a half.

1002
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 3: Interesting I was leading them as well. I'm leaning both dogs.

1003
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 3: Nothing actionable, and again a couple guys asking why is

1004
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 3: there no best bet Guys, I gotta be honest, I

1005
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 3: don't these these sides are close. Man, Like the Bucks

1006
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 3: series mess with my head. The Knicks upsetting a lot

1007
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 3: of teams that are winning are covering. Celtics got a

1008
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 3: super lucky cover thirdday at any rate, Draft Tonight, Draft Saturday,

1009
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: NBA Sunday could be crazy. Two game sevens in a

1010
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: game one, who knows. We'll talk to you Monday, m