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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: Is this this Morning Combat? It is Monday, June one?

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Speaker 2: Can you believe it? Twenty twenty, and it is time

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Speaker 2: for Morning Combat. Hi? Everyone, welcome to today's program. My

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Speaker 2: name is Luke Thomas. I am one half of your

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Speaker 2: hosting duo. I am joined by my Northeast Connecticut brother,

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Speaker 2: the gas station officionado himself, the one and only from

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Speaker 2: CBS Sports. By the way, Brian Campbell, Hi, Brian, how

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Speaker 2: are you this fine Monday morning?

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Speaker 3: Doing well? Luke almost had a major tech snafoo. There

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Speaker 3: was able to connect the dots and the cords get

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Speaker 3: start this show. Luke, Hey, Luke, you want to talk?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to talk real quickly. What does the

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean she is uh, she is innocent until

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Speaker 3: proven guilty regarding her husband.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but that is amazing, that is amazing.

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Speaker 3: Can we all observe her her warnings and words for

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Speaker 3: the moment there and and stay cool.

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Speaker 2: to you right at the top of the show here, Brian,

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Speaker 2: lot to get to on today's show BC we're gonna

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Speaker 2: talk about We're gonna preview UFC two fifty. We of

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Speaker 2: with's having Willy losing to the phenomenally. I mean, what

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Speaker 2: Certain I certainly think that's the right attitude you got to.

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Speaker 2: with topic number one. So on Saturday night, as I indicated, wow, man,

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Speaker 3: Right now, Gilbert Burns should be your number one contender

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Speaker 3: How about a guy who's won six in a row

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Speaker 3: that Saturday night was like watching the butterfly, you know,

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Speaker 2: do things later in his career than even other elite walterweights.

429
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Speaker 2: But thirty eight humming in on forty is just a

430
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 2: bad place to be in a very very stacked weight class,

431
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,120
Speaker 2: with surging contenders and youth kind of all around him.

432
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,439
Speaker 2: I don't really know exactly what the right answer is

433
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 2: for him. I do think he's capable. If you would

434
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Speaker 2: like to continue to collect paychecks, I certainly would not

435
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 2: be in a position to argue against him. But if

436
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 2: all of this is in service of capturing a title,

437
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 2: that to MEBC seems very illusory. I don't know what

438
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 2: a realistic path back at this point even looks like.

439
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 3: I mean like it's always a slippery slope for someone

440
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 3: in our shoes to say an all fighter should finish.

441
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 3: I'm saying that I understand that, right, but I'm also

442
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 3: again there was a failure to launch. He was you know,

443
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 3: he had trouble pulling the trigger. That's a very dangerous sign.

444
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,199
Speaker 3: And I know there are people who were responding on

445
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 3: Twitter and said, look, you know, have you watched his

446
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 3: last three or four fights, that's how he fights now. Well, no,

447
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 3: I mean he he has built himself up into be

448
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 3: almost a front runner style. And I don't say that negatively.

449
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 3: I say that to be he does so much better

450
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 3: in a fight when he's controlling the terms. Gilbert Burns

451
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,239
Speaker 3: never let him control any of the terms. Yet at

452
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 3: the same time, in round five, Gilbert Burns almost fought

453
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 3: reckless in the fact that he's still walking Woodley down

454
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 3: standing right in the pocket, and Woodley didn't have the

455
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 3: passion and commitment to let it go. That's the scary sign.

456
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 3: That's when I say, for your own good, it's time

457
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 3: to go away, because you know it's okay. So what

458
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 3: do you win if you go out there against the

459
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Speaker 3: middle of the road guy and you're able to dictate

460
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 3: the terms of the fight. You know, it always builds

461
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,959
Speaker 3: back up to a bigger fight. And if that passion

462
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 3: isn't inside you anymore. Luke, when he had said in

463
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 3: the build up to this fight that he couldn't explain

464
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 3: why he was so flat against Usman, that he acknowledged

465
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 3: that it was not him in there, that he couldn't

466
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 3: explain it, that should have been a bigger warning sign.

467
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 3: I was blinded by my understanding of who he is

468
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 3: as a fighter an athlete, that it could be a

469
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 3: bad night at the office, that maybe he wasn't training enough,

470
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 3: maybe he underestimated usman all those things. Well, you know

471
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 3: it's a pattern now, so sorry.

472
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 2: And again again. When he had a bad fight against

473
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Speaker 2: Rory MacDonald BC, he would come back in his next

474
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Speaker 2: contest and look great. When he had a bad fight

475
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 2: against Nate Markquart, he made a jump to the UFC

476
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 2: in his next fight, I think it was Josh Cock

477
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 2: and looked great, right, emphatic in knockouts, emphatic wins. There

478
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: was just signs of life where like, okay, everyone has

479
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 2: a misstep. You're fighting in the UFCS or then strike

480
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 2: Force welterweight division. It's going to happen. But the question

481
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 2: is what can you do over time? And again it's

482
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 2: not even just ten rounds, although that by itself is

483
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 2: really bad. Remember he got taken down and controlled in

484
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 2: the wrestling by Kamaru. He got taken down in consecutive fights.

485
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: I don't think that's ever happened in his UFC or

486
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: MMA career. Number one, and now he's getting outstruck on

487
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 2: the feet, he's getting beaten everywhere. And the other part

488
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 2: about it is it just looks like these guys have

489
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 2: more adapted modern games. When you watch this, even if

490
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 2: you didn't know anything about fighting, just look at what

491
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 2: Gilbert Burns is doing. It looks to be the more

492
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 2: modern version of things. If you look at what Kamara

493
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 2: Usman is doing, it just looks like the more updated

494
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: version of the program. Again, what he did in his

495
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: time cannot be taken away from him. He is truly

496
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: one of the best walterweights ever and walter rates is

497
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 2: one of the toughest divisions in the sport and has

498
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: been for a very long time. He has done tremendous,

499
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 2: tremendous things. But he's also a really good analyst, and

500
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 2: he has other outside businesses, and I think he can win.

501
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: But even Dean Thomas's coach told me on Friday, this

502
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: fight is kind of a test to see are we

503
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: going to get that title back or is it something

504
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 2: we should keep doing. If even his coaches are saying that,

505
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think it's out of bounce for

506
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: us to wonder at this point whether or not that's

507
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: an appropriate consideration. Last thing you mentioned, the cornering advice, BC,

508
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what the right answer is. We get

509
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: on Mark Montoya in his corner for going Ham for

510
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: Anthony Smith, and then this one they kind of lay off.

511
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: I had asked Dean Thomas about it as well, like

512
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 2: what is your cornering strategy? They don't like to say

513
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: too much because they want the fighter to think for themselves.

514
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 2: So maybe this has been a winning formula up to

515
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: this point. But it all just everything, BC. Everything on Saturday.

516
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: It just seemed you know, you ever have an old

517
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: gas stove and you're trying to get the gas to

518
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: light and it's clicking, but the flame doesn't come on.

519
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: You ever have one of those in in one of

520
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: those old houses you lived in. It just felt like that,

521
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 2: like everything is kind of turning you hear it there,

522
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: but it didn't work.

523
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right, I'm not here to piss off Jay.

524
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: We gotta keep going, all right, all right?

525
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 2: Jay wants us to keep going, all right? Segment three

526
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: or topic three, or rather I should say, we transition

527
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 2: away for the moment from Saturday's fights, and we have

528
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 2: to get back to this John Jones and Dana White.

529
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: They're just feuding over and over again. Now I want

530
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: to ask a question here BC that I was going

531
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 2: to pitch to you first, but there was something of

532
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: an update even since the questions we had put together

533
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: for today's show. First things first, John Jones, apparently, if

534
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 2: you believe him, and this is certainly up for debate,

535
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: has relinquished his UFC light heavyweight title. He tweeted over

536
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 2: the weekend, I basically have nothing to gain from fighting

537
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: at two o five at this point. It doesn't do

538
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 2: anything for me relative to what I am being paid. Right,

539
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: and so VENI vidi vici, I came, I saw, I conquered.

540
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: He's ready to move on. And then you talk to

541
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: other folks in the know who are spoken to his management,

542
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: and they say, dude, it's real now again, it's sort

543
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: of like going back to the Henry Sujudo thing. How

544
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: real is it? Like you'll just come back when a

545
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 2: better offer is made. Jones has been more explicit about that,

546
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: I suppose than Sahuda, who has made grand or overtures

547
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: of departure. Nevertheless, it is it is a weird time

548
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: BC where these fighters. You know what's so interesting about it?

549
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: For if you go back to twenty fourteen, Jones was

550
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 2: willing to stump for the UFC and say that they

551
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: were doing more to create millionaires than boxing, and I

552
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: don't really want to wait into that debate anymore. But

553
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: it just seems over time what fighters eventually realize is

554
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 2: they're willing to make some sacrifices on the front end

555
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: for a series of rewards, some might even say promises

556
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 2: on the back end, and then they get to the

557
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 2: back end of their career and they realize that bus

558
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 2: ain't coming, that ship ain't docking, that train is not

559
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: coming to this station, not in the way that they

560
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: thought it would be, not saying that they're underpaid in

561
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: the sense of they're not making good money by objective standards,

562
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 2: and then they get kind of angry, and then they

563
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: get sad and they do what Randy Gator did BC,

564
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: where they just say, you know what, I'm retiring from

565
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 2: my contract or I'm done. I'm not doing this, and

566
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: more often than not, UC usually finds a way to

567
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: draw them back. So BC to start this off, I

568
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 2: don't actually think that John Jones is done. I want

569
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: to get to the Deontay Wader claim in just a second,

570
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: but on this case of why this is happening where

571
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: in two different weeks essentially three years, I suppose you

572
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: have two champions almost the same age saying you know what,

573
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: I kind of had enough at the current price range.

574
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 2: I don't think it's an effective tactic. The UFC doesn't

575
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: like to be leveraged, and they show when people try,

576
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: they dig their heels in even harder. But it does

577
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: underscore what we already know. We already know that these

578
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: guys are underpaid, and you're seeing this frustration. Where it

579
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 2: leads is anyone's guess, but that it keeps happening is

580
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: not an accident.

581
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: No, there's so many layers to this story. I mean,

582
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: this could be the whole damn show. It goes beyond

583
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 3: just a bunch of tweets. Look, is John gonna give

584
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 3: up the title? Well, you know we'll believe it when

585
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 3: we see UFC dot com slash rankings John's picture off

586
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 3: of there, and when we see some type of press

587
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 3: release saying you know, it's it's over with. I do

588
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 3: think he'd be willing to because he's hit a certain

589
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 3: crossroads now that I've been waiting for I've been waiting

590
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 3: for Luke, a fighter with both leverage and something to lose,

591
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: just make that stand, because you're never going to get

592
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 3: a fighter union, you're never going to get balanced pay

593
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 3: until somebody with something to lose really makes that stand

594
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: in more than one person, I'm sorry, you know, until

595
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 3: a group does, because look, the fighter pay system is broken.

596
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 3: There's the halves and the have nots, and what happens

597
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 3: is the halves get rewarded enough, and they'd fought so

598
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 3: long to get out of the have not category. But

599
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: that's why they're willing to have it announced that they

600
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: only made three hundred thousand for their fight, when in

601
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: reality they made three four million behind the scenes. There's

602
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 3: a reason they don't share that publicly or argue for more,

603
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 3: because they finally got to that point and they're holding

604
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: on to it. It's really kind of smart the way

605
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 3: UFC controls this and has set it up. But no,

606
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: it's not right. It's not right the percentage amount that

607
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 3: UFC pays. It's not right when you compare a top

608
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 3: end UFC fighter to someone on the boxing side, who,

609
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 3: let's say, more often than not, is fighting lesser competition

610
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 3: yet making more. It's not fair when you compare it

611
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: to NBA, NFL and etc. So somebody's got to take

612
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 3: a stand to make it work. The problem for John

613
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: right now is that, as Data had said, it is

614
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 3: the worst possible time to make this stand. UFC, according

615
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: to Data, is scheduled to lose upwards of one hundred

616
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: million this year without having a live gate. That lack

617
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: of a live gate is going to prevent any type

618
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 3: of super fights from happening. So it is very likely

619
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: that John doesn't fight again this year at all and

620
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: waits for twenty twenty one, maybe February first, twenty twenty one,

621
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: when we can get people back into stadiums and arenas

622
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: and have those type of big fights. I'm hoping, though,

623
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 3: just like I'm hoping that all this craziness going on

624
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: in our real life news cycle will lead to broader change.

625
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: We're going to need more fighters making this stand because

626
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: one thousand percent, John Jones should be get getting a

627
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: lot more. Dana can't in one breath say like John

628
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 3: had said that he's the greatest of all time, and

629
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 3: he's all these things, and then once John, you know,

630
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: chirps up cracked down on him. There's but I did

631
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 3: mention there's layers and elements to this Luke, UFC's put

632
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 3: themselves in a tough spot. They bend the rules, so

633
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 3: to speak, and choose not to extra punish fighters of late.

634
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 3: When mishaps happened Connor throwing the Dolly through the window, Well,

635
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: you know, the criminal system could take care of it

636
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: because we got to make a big payday two twenty nine.

637
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 3: How about John Jones with the duy and weapon. How

638
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: about John Jones with the USADA issue, you know in

639
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: December twenty eighteen, where they move that card during Christmas week,

640
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 3: you know, in such unprecedented manners. They've done things to

641
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: protect him for the sake of making more money. And

642
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 3: now when that person says, hey, I deserve more money,

643
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 3: they're gonna say, oh sorry, John, And you know you're

644
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: reckless and screwed up. Well, do you think there's any

645
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 3: enabling in that system, Luke? Where I think that overall,

646
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: who's winning this argument? Who has a greater point? I

647
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: still think it's John.

648
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean the whole point about moving that card

649
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: at the last minute, It's like, did the UFC do

650
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: this in a way that totally accommodated John for the

651
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: second Gustuson fight. There could be no argument otherwise, of

652
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: course they did. Did they also do that because they

653
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 2: wanted to make a shitload of money? Of course they did.

654
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: I'm not even really mad at either of those considerations.

655
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: But the idea that it was some kind of like

656
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: altruistic effort on the part of UFC to really do

657
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: a solid for John Jones, you know, I'm less inclined

658
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: to buy that interpretation of it. And you said too

659
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: that I really disagree with, which is, well, there's haves

660
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: and have nots. Well there is in terms of who

661
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: is able to have a comfortable life versus not a

662
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: comfortable life. Right. You even see certain fighters on the undercard,

663
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: which by the way, had a tremendous amount of finishes

664
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: in great fights on Saturday, saying I could really use

665
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: this money because I want to do this full time,

666
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: or you know, I've been living in the gym, or

667
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: I've got some various form of hardship. In that sense,

668
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: there's haves and have nots, but let's just be clear

669
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: about it. They're all have nots. Right. You can't say

670
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: that that eighteen percent that's being shared is somehow going

671
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: effectively and appropriately to all of the are to a

672
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: portion of them, and then not, it's it's an underpayment generally,

673
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: and honestly, this was the original question. Dana White was

674
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: saying over the weekend that he wanted John Jones Deontay

675
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: Wilder money and he doesn't deserve Deontay Wilder money, to

676
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: which I say, I don't know, I don't know, d Dubbs,

677
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: he actually might write, here's the point. It's actually your

678
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: A listers in the UFC that in terms of aggregate

679
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: dollars B see, they're the most underpaid of all. If

680
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: you add up who has generated the most revenue and

681
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: in a different sport, let's say what that would have

682
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: been the share that would have gotten versus what they've

683
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: actually been paid. There's no argument that the most underpaid

684
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: is the A class. We always think of it as

685
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: the bottom class. But if there was a fighters union,

686
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: they would just create certain protections to raise their standard

687
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: of living, enable them to have a more comfortable lifestyle.

688
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: But to the point they are somewhat interchangeable. It's the

689
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: top stars that generate the most that are the most

690
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: underpaid by far. It's a big misconception. So the question

691
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 2: is is he entitled to Deontay Wilder money. Now the

692
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: reason why Deontae makes what he makes is a function

693
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: of the fact that he has, in many cases, at

694
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: least over the course of his career, had multiple bidders

695
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: kind of edging his purse up. When he fought Brazil

696
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: and knocked him out inside of a round. He fought

697
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: on showtime, but it was just on TV. There was

698
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: a bit of an arms race that was trying to

699
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: secure his services, and that inflated a little bit. But

700
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: here's the point, before he even really made a real

701
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: jump to pay per view, he made between thirteen to

702
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 2: eighteen million for that fight, and that was just on

703
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: linear television. The idea that John Jones, whatever he's making,

704
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: let's say five mil, which is what he indicated on Twitter,

705
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: was what he was getting over fight fight over a

706
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: fight is what he should be getting, is ludicrous, Totally ludicrous.

707
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 2: He has been a bigger draw on pay per view

708
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 2: for nearly a decade relative to what Deontay Wilder has done.

709
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: Matter of fact that not not every fight has been

710
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: a blockbuster, but every big pay per view there's very

711
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: few of them. I think two that Wilder has had,

712
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: Jones has matched and then exceeded. So not only has

713
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 2: the rate over time not been great. All the money

714
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 2: added up that he's not been paid, that he could

715
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 2: have been paid under a different system makes thirty million

716
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: a bargain BC.

717
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: It does. And look, you know, to defend the UFC

718
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: in a small point, the difference between boxing and MMA.

719
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 3: Look at UFC's got loaded for the most part on

720
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: pay per views, you know, somewhat loaded cards in which

721
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 3: they have to pay those people. You don't get that

722
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: same quality below a Deontay Wilder on a pay per

723
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 3: view card in boxing. We understand that. But yes, the

724
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 3: system is broken and if UFC, UFC's gonna have a

725
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: lot of discussion and explaining to do in the future, Luke,

726
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 3: if more fighters are willing to take this stand, John's

727
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: always been a little bit of an outlier going. I

728
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: think it always goes back to that UFC one fifty

729
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 3: two situation with the Dan Henderson fight and his refusal

730
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 3: to take jail on short notice. That was his first stand,

731
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: and we don't see fighters take those stands, Luke. So

732
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 3: I'm hoping this is a step toward the direction of

733
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 3: UFC reconfiguring their their financial model and feeling out, you know,

734
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 3: how they're going to better reward these guys, and I do,

735
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: by the way, I think there is a have and

736
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 3: have nots, and that's why the haves don't argue. That's why,

737
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: you know, because they work so hard to get there,

738
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: but they do deserve more at that highest level, Luke,

739
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 3: from the question and standpoint of what happens next, I mean,

740
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: I could see them over paying John to fight a

741
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 3: Yan Blohowitz of that group of respected to a five contenders,

742
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 3: probably the best matchup for John to win, you know,

743
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 3: in his style somewhat handily. And maybe then John sits

744
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 3: out to move to heavyweight in twenty two twenty one.

745
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 3: But if John sits out the rest of the year

746
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: and does give up the title, look, this is the

747
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 3: kind of the move we wanted for him, and I'm

748
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: kind of happy that he's realizing that there's not a

749
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: ton to gain outside of a consistent paycheck in staying

750
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 3: at two five and fighting these younger, hungry guys. Luke,

751
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: how much do you think this is an extension of

752
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: a question from last week? John's you know, small decline

753
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 3: with age is playing into UFC's hard stance right now.

754
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 2: Got to be part of it, Absolutely no doubt about it.

755
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: There's a thought in my mind that they're sort of

756
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 2: reading the tea leaves here and they're wondering what I've seen.

757
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 2: I look if I can see it on tape, you know,

758
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 2: I suspect that they've got experts who know far more

759
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: than me in their ear kind of saying to the

760
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 2: same things, like there might be something of a decline.

761
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: I mean, remember the guys, like the earlier you start

762
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: is the earlier you finished in terms of your athletic life.

763
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: That's especially true in fighting now on the thirty mil part,

764
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 2: very quickly, I don't think he would, actually, I don't

765
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: think there's even any way under an ideal circumstance to

766
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: get John thirty million, because the business model doesn't have

767
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: multiple suitors bidding up his purse, and so as a consequence,

768
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: that's not realistic. But more than what he's getting is

769
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 2: basically what he's asking for. I do think that they

770
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 2: can find a way to get that. But you're right, BC.

771
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 2: What's happening here is he's like at a point now

772
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 2: where he's like, I can fight Yon, who's going to

773
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 2: be a tough fight and make decent money, but it's

774
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: gonna be hard. It's gonna go probably five rounds. It's

775
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: gonna be difficult if I'm gonna do this kind of thing,

776
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: I want to get paid in. UFC's looking at this

777
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: and saying, your defense is great, your offense is not

778
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: what it once was. Why do we want to invest

779
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: a ton of money for just that? But that's why

780
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 2: he needs some kind of other mechanism in the market

781
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: to help his value in terms of what he brings

782
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: to the financial table, to make sure that he's rewarded effectively.

783
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: And right now, I think we could both agree that mechanism,

784
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 2: whether it's the Aliact, a Union, whatever, it's just not there.

785
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: And if, in in closing, if John also is feeling

786
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: a little bit of that right age piling up, the

787
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 3: other guy's getting closer, it's not impossible that he's starting

788
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: to plan a two to three fight exit shred right

789
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 3: where where if I, you know, maybe I don't fight

790
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: two three times a year like I did coming off

791
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 3: of that. You sat a suspension where I wanted to

792
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 3: make a ton of money, improve to everybody that I'm back.

793
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 3: Maybe now I be more selective, take in really aim

794
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 3: for super fights only. Not a bad business strategy either.

795
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: Not a bad business strategy at all. I also wonder, lastly,

796
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: I know it's very different BC, and we'll move on

797
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: to DOC two to fifty here in just a second.

798
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: I wonder how much of what Saint Pierre did going away,

799
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 2: coming back and then dropping the title again. I wonder

800
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: how much that spooked him, because it did create for

801
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: one magical evening that night when he thought Bisping and

802
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 2: that wasn't just that fight. That card in general was

803
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 2: pretty good there in New York City. I was there.

804
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: I think that might be the best card. Look, that

805
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 3: might be the best card ever.

806
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, exactly. I mean it was a tremendous,

807
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: tremendous event, but then there was nothing to build on,

808
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: there was nothing to go from after Saint Pierre did

809
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 2: what he did. I wonder if they worry, you know,

810
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: if we just accommodate these fighters in their latter stages

811
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 2: of their career where they're still actually really really good,

812
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 2: but they've got their eye on the exit and they

813
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: want a bunch more money and they're harder to deal with.

814
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: How much much of that business do we really want

815
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: to be in versus everyone who's kind of in their

816
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 2: late twenties, early thirties, who's a little bit and that

817
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: john'son you know, late thirties or early thirty stage. But

818
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: I mean it sort of again, the guys who haven't

819
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: had superstart them all the way up through that time.

820
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: How much of that business do we want to be in,

821
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: especially now with you know, they're one hundred million dollars

822
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: less than the pandemic. I don't know the answer to that,

823
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: but I think it's a sort of an existential question

824
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: that the UFC's kind of facing at this time. All right,

825
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 2: so let's jump to the fourth topic we have here

826
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: on the rundown BC. Let's turn our eyes forward if

827
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: we can to UFC two fifty. In the main event,

828
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: the greatest women's fighter of all time, certainly one of

829
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: the best fighters ever, irrespective of gender, Amanda Nunez puts

830
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 2: her featherweight title on the line against Felicia Spencer. Now

831
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: there's been some criticism, BC. I saw you take some

832
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: by the way. I don't know if you're aware of this,

833
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: because you call it the fight not a real headliner. Now,

834
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: I actually agree in the sense that it doesn't really

835
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 2: move people. I don't know how much folks think that

836
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: Felicia Spencer is all that competitive, great fighter, and certainly

837
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: we have all the respect in the world for a

838
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 2: man in new But the fight doesn't exactly It doesn't

839
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: move us that much, right, never know, you never know,

840
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 2: right Felicia's towers. It doesn't let me. I'll pitch the

841
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: question to you. I'll pitch the question to you. Here's

842
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: the thing, this is why I'm asking. It doesn't exactly

843
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 2: move us in the way that other fights maybe could.

844
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: So I'll ask YOUBC in this way, what exactly is

845
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: at stake for Newnas Yes to featherweight title, but more

846
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: than that, what does she what is she up against here?

847
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 3: I think this is just moving the chains for her

848
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: and adding a little bit of pixie dust on the

849
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: history she's already making. If she wins this fight, she'll

850
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 3: be the first female to defend titles in two divisions.

851
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 3: She'll join Sahudo and DC as only the third UFC

852
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 3: fighter to do that. And the fact that it's been

853
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 3: seventeen months since she's won that title to finally put

854
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 3: the one forty five belt back in motion seems like

855
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: the smart move. Even though go to UFC dot com

856
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 3: slash rankings, we still don't have Women's by the Waight rankings,

857
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 3: and we never did right. It's a division that doesn't

858
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: need to really be there right now as things look.

859
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 3: But with that said, it's not a pay per view headliner.

860
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: And this card is interesting this weekend because I'm really

861
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: excited about it as a hardcore fight fan who's not

862
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: necessarily paying for it out of my pocket because it's

863
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 3: got such killer bandam way fights. It's got the you know,

864
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: the fighters fans type of fights. But this is not

865
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: a worthy pay per view main event fight. Yeah, at

866
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 3: the same time, it's pretty damn interesting. So for Nunas,

867
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 3: I think it's less interesting, it's less important. It's more

868
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 3: just let me stay busy and defend the featherweight. Yet

869
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: Felicia Spencer, for a a nothing division that shallow as heck,

870
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 3: proved a lot against Cyborg, has shown us a lot. Luke,

871
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: you've seen the odds here, I've seen nunas as much

872
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 3: as minus six seventy five. I don't think the odds

873
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 3: represent Felicia Spencer's true ability in this fight. Should it

874
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: be a Pickham Hell no, will she most likely you lose? Yes?

875
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: But I think she brings a lot more to the

876
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: table I like the hell out of this fight. It's

877
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: the perfect Cole main event. It would be a fantastic

878
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 3: UFC on ESPN main event. I got really nothing bad

879
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: to say about it, except for the fact that this

880
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: may speak more to the UFC's exclusive ESPN pay per

881
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 3: view deal, in which we're led to believe they get

882
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: that minimum payment no matter what they put on pay

883
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: per view. This seems to be given the pandemic, given

884
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 3: the lack of reach to international fighters, for the moment

885
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 3: that they kind of you know, they punted on this

886
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 3: card and just said it is what it is. We're

887
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 3: going to throw it out there.

888
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also I think that's totally true. Like who

889
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: do we have available? Right, is a big part of matchmaking.

890
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: I Mean the other part here is like we think

891
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 2: the world of Amanda Nunez. We are trying to see

892
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: interesting ways that she could be tested. And I think

893
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 2: everyone respects Felicia Spencer. She has performed able win or

894
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: lose thus far in her MMA career, certainly very well.

895
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 2: At times, it just doesn't exactly tell us the most

896
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: interesting possibility of what Amanda Nunas can show us. It's

897
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: not as exciting as a potential strike fest against Holly Holm.

898
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 2: It doesn't have the same significance of Aroanda Rossi. Fighter

899
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: doesn't mean anything even close to what she did even

900
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: in the run up that they anticipation. We had rather

901
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 2: about the cyber Worg fight. Nevertheless, going back to the

902
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 2: Derando me fight, I mean that was a person that

903
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: she had even beaten before, and rather handily at that,

904
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: and then she has, you know, the fight of her

905
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: life on her hands the second time around. So Felicia

906
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: Spencer could be very, very credible as a challenger. She

907
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: might even win for crying out loud. But the point

908
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 2: being is it just doesn't. It doesn't capture our imagination,

909
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: and I think that's why we're not calling it like

910
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: the most interesting headlining fight in that particular sense. Now,

911
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: in terms of hold on hold.

912
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 3: Stay with that point, Admiral Acbar, because you just dropped

913
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 3: a it's a trap on us, and I respect that,

914
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 3: considering GDR was closer than maybe she should have been

915
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 3: in that fight, and consider Amanda is shaking off an

916
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 3: injury just postponed the day of this fight and is

917
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 3: awaiting her first child with Nina. Are we you know

918
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 3: not only are the odds a little bit too wide

919
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 3: for my taste. Does is Spencer the right the right

920
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 3: trap upon it her?

921
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: Could she surprise us again? When you ever you have

922
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: a situation like this, your mind won't even let you

923
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 2: entertain the idea that somebody like this could win, and

924
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 2: then you look at the facts. It's like, dude, For

925
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 2: Felicia Spencer, this is the opportunity of a lifetime. For

926
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 2: Amanda Nunas, this is an interesting opportunity. You're asking what's

927
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 2: at stake? Which is for me? My answer is the

928
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 2: accumulation of consistent achievement. Whether it's high or it's low,

929
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 2: it aggregately adds up in the end to something truly grand.

930
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: That's what you mean by moving the chains. I think

931
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: it's a different way of saying the same thing. But

932
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: you're right, dude, they're not looking at this with the

933
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: same kind of thing. It's hard to be that person

934
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: that constantly has that target on your back. And you

935
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: could say whatever you want about the one hundred and

936
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 2: forty five pound division. Felisia Spencer is talented. She trains

937
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 2: her ass off, She's a black belt in jiu jitsu,

938
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: and this is her moment to get something in her

939
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: career that she's never had. For Amanda Nunas, she's been

940
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: had this, she's been having this for a early long time. Hell,

941
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: she could lose this and she still has it in

942
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 2: another division for crying out loud. So I'm not even

943
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: poopooing the fight again though. It's just not like listen.

944
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 2: Matchmaking is about a lot of things. The interesting fight

945
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 2: in the content and the style matchups, and it's the timing,

946
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 2: and it's the location. It's also star power. If Lisia

947
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: Spencer just doesn't necessarily have a whole lot of that,

948
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: that does not mean, however, that she cannot win and

949
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: that she cannot do important things. And if she does, hell,

950
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: then you've got an opportunity here to make something a

951
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: lot more interesting than we thought with a secondary fight.

952
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's wrong to say that this

953
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: fight will a do as well at the at the

954
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: box office, and b is as interesting as every other

955
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: possible fight that Amanda new Nest could have. I just

956
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 2: don't I don't believe that to be true.

957
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 3: All right, who are your three favorite Canadians? By the way, Luke,

958
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 3: I know this is an odd ball question. Mar Ronalo,

959
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 3: Aaron Bronstetters solid.

960
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 2: Aaron Bronstetters up there. Yeah, he's a top contender, and

961
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: I guess St. Saint Pierre or maybe for Oz it's

962
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: it's a tough call. There's many great Canadians PC. I

963
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: think you could agree with Mike Myers. I don't know.

964
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: He kind of warmed his odd as welcome all right.

965
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 3: The lead singer of Nickelback who Bangeddaviril.

966
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: Wait, wasn't that the lead singer of some forty one?

967
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? Both both she made the rounds Okay, it was.

968
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: By the way, there's a video. There's a video with.

969
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: The lead Yeah.

970
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: There's a video of the lead singer of Nickelback singing

971
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 2: on stage with the band and then someone hits them

972
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: with like a bottle. He's like, if one of you

973
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: a holes hits me with one more thing, and then

974
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: someone hits them with a shoe and then they walk off.

975
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: It's actually one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

976
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: So go check that out on YouTube.

977
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 3: Uh.

978
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 2: Okay, with that in mind, there is one more fight BC.

979
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: We should get to for point number five on the

980
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: rundown here, and I have to tell you, I am

981
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: amazed at the lack of speaking of interesting fight without

982
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: a whole lot of buzz, the return of Cody Garbrant.

983
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: I cannot believe there is not more buzz around this

984
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: than the I can't believe that no one's really paying

985
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 2: attention to it. So he takes on hat fay Al Sunsaw.

986
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 2: I think it's even the co main event. Let me

987
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: verify that here very quick.

988
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 3: It is Luke.

989
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 2: It is the comin event of UFC two fifth. OKAYBC.

990
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: This is amazing to me. So one, there's a question

991
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: of like why aren't more people paying attention? But two,

992
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 2: like what is he up against here? Against Auslin Sala?

993
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: Go first if I can, which is BC? This first?

994
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: This is so tremendous. So we all talked about Dominic

995
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 2: Cruz not deserving a title shot against henrysu Huto, but

996
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: we sort of understood it because they wanted to give

997
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: it to Aldo and he was looking for a name,

998
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: and you know, we weren't happy about it, but hey,

999
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 2: one of the greatest bantam waits ever and blah blah blah.

1000
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: But you know, he wasn't ranked at the time, and

1001
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 2: he hadn't won and fought since you know, twenty sixteen December. Well,

1002
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 2: Cody Garbrandt hasn't won since that time. That's the fight.

1003
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 2: That's the last time Cody Garbrant has really showed signs

1004
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: of life. No, he looked pretty good at parts of

1005
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: the first DJ Dillishaw fight. But here's the point. He

1006
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 2: hasn't won since then. Then He's only fought once in

1007
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, once in twenty eighteen, once in twenty nineteen,

1008
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 2: all three losses. And the interesting part is he looked

1009
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: to be a brilliant tactician and super smart on his horse,

1010
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 2: amazing against Dominick Cruz, and then he just kind of

1011
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: regressed over time. Now what he's done. He kind of

1012
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: flirted with going to one twenty five, but he's back

1013
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: at one thirty five. The key here is he has

1014
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: gone to other places. He went and trained with the

1015
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: East Coast super Friends, with Mark Henry and all those

1016
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 2: guys up there in New Jersey. He has sojourned to

1017
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: get the most out of himself, to rediscover what is possible.

1018
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: And to me, this is very much for a guy

1019
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: who I think is in his late twenties jarly thirties,

1020
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: this is still very much. I'm not gonna say your

1021
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 2: career is on the line. But if you're not going

1022
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 2: to rebound, now, when are you going to rebound? Because

1023
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 2: I believe that Cody Garbrant, when he's performing as ably

1024
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: as he is naturally capable of, when I say naturally

1025
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 2: through hard work, but that natural talent combined with effort,

1026
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: I think he's as good as a bantamweight can get.

1027
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: I have such high admiration for his game. But you

1028
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 2: can't deny not really the slump that he's been on,

1029
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: but what he has showed, which was just being a

1030
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: wild gun slant, which I know that might be his instincts,

1031
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: but that's not the upper bound limit of his ability.

1032
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: He is far far beyond that. So to me, the

1033
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 2: question is not really can you beat a thirty seven

1034
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 2: year old but still very talented hal fi al Sunsele.

1035
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 2: The question is can you recapture the very thing that

1036
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: catapulted you to getting that belt? And the answer is,

1037
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. But if you can't get it by now,

1038
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: I don't know when you can.

1039
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, you nailed it, I mean get busy b on

1040
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 3: the line. This is, you know, just like Witholey last week,

1041
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 3: this is an inverted crossroads right, this is it meaning

1042
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 3: you lose this fight, you're not done, but we no

1043
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 3: longer consider you an elite or a potential elite. You

1044
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: win this fight and don't take a lot of damage,

1045
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 3: you can really pass up the line pretty quick because

1046
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 3: of your age at twenty eight, your finishing ability, and

1047
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 3: your star power, which is the reason why this is

1048
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 3: the Cole main event. And at first, you know, we

1049
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 3: all grown a little bit because, as we talked about

1050
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 3: last week, Al Joe and Corey san Haagen is a friggin' fight. Fans,

1051
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 3: fight fans, fight, dream, wet dream, if you will, somebody

1052
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 3: give me a towel, and it could it could be

1053
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 3: the col main event. It could be for the freaking

1054
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 3: vacant title. It's that good. But Cody's story is just

1055
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 3: not getting talked about. And this comeback from three straight

1056
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 3: losses all by knockout, the last two specifically of a

1057
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 3: more reckless manner where he sort of, you know, put

1058
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 3: his skills away just to get in a fight. This

1059
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 3: is the crossroads. We're gonna find out the exact direction

1060
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 3: that he's heading. And you nailed what the Countdown show

1061
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 3: played up well, which is, you know, very quietly went

1062
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 3: to Carlisle Meda to really work on his ground game

1063
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 3: and his jiu jitsu, and you know, you think of

1064
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 3: him as a slugger, you think of him as a wrestler.

1065
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 3: This is the right move to do it, this way,

1066
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 3: to do it quietly. I mean, have you heard one

1067
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 3: sound bite come out of Cody And the build up

1068
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 3: to this I had to, you know, like painstakingly search

1069
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 3: to see if there's any interviews out there. This is

1070
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 3: the right way to do it, under the radar, not

1071
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 3: promising big coming back, and the proof will be in

1072
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 3: the put in, as Floyd likes to say, on Saturday,

1073
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 3: against a just as hungry Sunshow who's proven that with

1074
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 3: his own age, he's not necessarily you know, washed or

1075
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 3: going in the wrong direction, but he's coming off with

1076
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 3: two defeats to some you know, pretty elite fighters, where

1077
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 3: he's going to be just as hungry to go out

1078
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 3: there and very well could be a live dog to

1079
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 3: get a win himself. It's a great fight. There's so

1080
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 3: much at stake, and believe me, if Cody comes out

1081
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 3: and does Cody things, We're gonna be quick to forget

1082
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 3: the past and be ready to move on and see

1083
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 3: where he's going as a title contender, but we may

1084
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 3: just write him off Luke with a damaging loss.

1085
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 2: I also think you picked up on something that is

1086
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: absolutely true. Whether you like this or not, I think

1087
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 2: BC you're right, which is, let's say he goes in

1088
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: there and we're like, oh my god, this is the

1089
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 2: guy that beat Dominic Cruz and he either looks good

1090
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 2: en route to a decision or even gets a finish

1091
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 2: over the very very tough half Al Sunsaw. Dude, he

1092
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,959
Speaker 2: might just skip the cue. I mean, we all kind

1093
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 2: of think that the winner of Sterling versus Sanhagen should

1094
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 2: probably fight the winner of Aldo versus Yon. That just

1095
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 2: seems like the fair and interesting way to go about it.

1096
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: But Cody Garbrandt is your ex here. When that guy

1097
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 2: won the title and beating Dominic Cruz, we all said

1098
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 2: at the time, dude, the future of bansomweight is here.

1099
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: This guy went from unranked to champion. Remember that over

1100
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 2: the course of four fights basically in a calendar year.

1101
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 2: It was not unheard of, but pretty damn impressive. And

1102
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 2: he was young, and he was marketable, and he was

1103
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: friendly with the media, like he had the wind at

1104
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 2: his back, and it all just kind of went away.

1105
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 2: But he's young enough and making enough changes where you

1106
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 2: think he could recapture it. You're seeing that in bansomw Weight.

1107
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,720
Speaker 2: They're putting a premium on names for titles and people

1108
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 2: that I've resonated with crowds before and a surgeon returning

1109
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 2: Cody again. You can like it or you can hate it.

1110
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: I would not doubt that if he shines on Saturday

1111
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 2: and he asked for a title shot, he could very

1112
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: very easily get it. That's where I look at it.

1113
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like UFC is like they have an

1114
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 3: embarrassment of riches in this division to begin with, with

1115
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 3: the balance between unheralded future stars and old names who

1116
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 3: can sell, but they almost have too many of them.

1117
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 3: Luke like, I must remind you Frankie Edgar's coming down

1118
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 3: to fight Pedro Munyez in a month, potentially, you know,

1119
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 3: favors Linger and Cruise Like, they got too many of

1120
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 3: these people they can plug in. But I think you're right,

1121
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 3: Cody delivers, you know, the top level performance he could.

1122
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 3: You may see him fight I don't want to say

1123
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 3: fight the winner of jan although because that would be heartbreaking.

1124
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 3: I just hope San Hagen and al Joe get to

1125
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 3: fight the winner of that.

1126
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but anything's possible is really the point. Okay,

1127
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: So BC and I have been quizzing each other, but

1128
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 2: you guys also quizzed us. It's time now where we

1129
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 2: get to your questions. It's time for dms from Dugs.

1130
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: There's the animation, BC. It all looks great, all right.

1131
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: First up from the real k Carter. What do you

1132
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 2: guys think is the most underrated striking technique in MMA?

1133
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: What do you think BC?

1134
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: Most underrated striking technique?

1135
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 2: Can I go first on this one?

1136
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? Professor Salt and Pepper school me while I think

1137
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 3: about it here.

1138
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: People are gonna I mean, I would have said, you know,

1139
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 2: a year ago, the low calf kick, but everyone does

1140
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: it now and it's very very effective, I'm gonna say.

1141
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 2: And you could also say the jab in the sense

1142
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 2: that everyone knows it's affected, but very few have like

1143
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: a really good job in MMA. But what I would

1144
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: say is like a jab or cross or a hook

1145
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 2: or whatever and then rolling underneath someone's punch to get

1146
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: out off the center line and reset the angle. It's

1147
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: what justin Gage you did. Sometimes he would mix in

1148
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: the stand switch along the way. But Dominic Reyes is

1149
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 2: very good at it. It's common in boxing. It wasn't

1150
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 2: taught for years in MMABC. This is my understanding because

1151
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: a lot of striking coaches were wary that when you

1152
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: rolled underneath a punch like that or weaving whatever you

1153
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 2: want to call it. They call it rolling an m

1154
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 2: but weaving and boxing whatever, that you would get hit

1155
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: with a knee. And you still can, obviously, depending on

1156
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 2: how far you either slip or how far you roll underneath.

1157
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: But you're also seeing that maybe some of those fears

1158
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: we're a little bit overstated because a lot of fighters

1159
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 2: are using it much more effectively now, and it's such

1160
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: a game changer if you can throw and then change

1161
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 2: angles as your opponent is throwing, and so by the

1162
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: time that they have fully extended, you're in a new place. Dude,

1163
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,439
Speaker 2: you are. You are cooking with gas, and the better

1164
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: strikers are showing you that it's not only possible but

1165
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: extremely effective. It's just not very common.

1166
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, a simple, easy answer is

1167
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 3: body punching. You know, hooks to the liver to sort

1168
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 3: of take away the gas, take and slow people down.

1169
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 3: We saw dom Reyes have great success against John Jones. Obviously,

1170
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 3: it's a staple in boxing for a reason that you

1171
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 3: established early in a fight to help you late. Same

1172
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,959
Speaker 3: thing with you know, how people come out strong, usually

1173
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 3: with hard outside leg kicks. I wonder, though, you know,

1174
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 3: having listened to Justin Gatgee on the Rogan Pod, whether

1175
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 3: more people will try to adopt what he uniquely does

1176
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 3: so well, which is land hard, devastating kicks at very

1177
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 3: close range, sometimes off the clinch, which is something that

1178
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 3: people didn't even seem to think of for a long time.

1179
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 2: Look true, it's true, a very interesting I mean, you

1180
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 2: have to little bit of hip dexterity to do that,

1181
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 2: but that could be trained. You can, you can work

1182
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 2: on that, right, you can get more flexible. So that'll

1183
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 2: be interesting to see. But I mean there's a lot.

1184
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 2: I mean, here's what's interesting. Because mma has become a

1185
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 2: predominantly striking sport, right for better for worse, it has.

1186
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 2: You're now beginning to see that that portion of the

1187
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 2: game people are really kind of investing in. And so

1188
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: it's taking a while and we're not there yet. But

1189
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 2: the striking part of MMA is I hear more often

1190
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: now ten years ago I never heard this, but now

1191
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 2: I'll hear other boxers get asked about MMA strikers and

1192
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, you know what, guy look pretty good

1193
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: or so and so's footwork was you know, there was

1194
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 2: not bad blah blah blah bah blah. And there's cross

1195
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 2: training more and but you know, you're beginning to see

1196
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: a little bit more begrudging respect about MMA striking now

1197
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: than you ever used to. And I don't think that's

1198
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 2: an accident. It's because the best practices have gotten better, Lukes,

1199
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: And so I know.

1200
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 3: Everyone is thinking it right now. Can I ask a

1201
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 3: filthy casual question under the unified rules here? Can you

1202
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 3: can we get a like a like a titty twist, Luker,

1203
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 3: that be a joint manipulation?

1204
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 2: No, you can do it. But the problem is if

1205
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 2: you actually did that, like as you occupied your hands,

1206
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 2: like people always asking ask like, why can't you tickle

1207
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 2: in jiu jitsu because you know if you tickle someone

1208
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 2: they're gonna The answer is one like the cost, the

1209
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: opportunity cost is extraordinary to occupy your hands in that

1210
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: kind of a way.

1211
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 3: And it's so awkward as balls, Luke, Okay, it's awkward,

1212
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 3: and it just it doesn't.

1213
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 2: The answer, the short answer is it just doesn't work.

1214
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: It works under the circumstances of a confined, playful wrestling scenario.

1215
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: It doesn't work when you have two athletes trying to

1216
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 2: dominate one another in combat. So that's the really, that's

1217
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 2: really the way it goes.

1218
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 3: Keith Acne would punch a hole through your balls into

1219
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 3: your soul.

1220
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 2: Luke all right, certainly would at Lloyd one tooth or

1221
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 2: a Lloyd H one two three. How do you see

1222
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 2: the new small cage affecting fights long term? Will wrestlers

1223
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 2: have a massive advantage over strikers? B see? Will they?

1224
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 3: That's a that's an interesting question because you know, we

1225
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 3: talk a lot about that last week. I'm sure you

1226
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 3: did on your radio show, Luke, about that potential. Every

1227
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 3: fighter I interviewed had more or less said, you know,

1228
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,439
Speaker 3: I expect more striking, which was our de facto knee jerk, like, okay, yeah,

1229
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 3: small cage, you're going to see more fighting. But yet

1230
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 3: you're right, we saw more decisions and we saw wrestlers

1231
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 3: having more control. Yeah, I mean I sort of believe

1232
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 3: with the smaller with the smaller area, that that's more

1233
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 3: like it. I was surprised we didn't see more just

1234
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 3: straight up brawling, Luke. Maybe it was just the fighters

1235
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 3: in question in the matchups, but do you see any

1236
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 3: other long term, effective strategic change.

1237
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 2: So the only research that's been done about this is

1238
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 2: a little bit outdated, which isn't just like to blame

1239
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 2: the research, it's just no one's kept up with it.

1240
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 2: And so to me, fighting has changed since the initial

1241
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 2: results were compiled in twenty fourteen, so I think some

1242
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 2: refreshing of what it means needs to be also done.

1243
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 2: But the initial research tells us that it's easier to

1244
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 2: push someone against the cage right, and then from there

1245
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: the fights take place longer along those lines, particularly along

1246
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 2: clinch work. But I didn't see a lot of that

1247
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 2: on Saturday.

1248
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 3: Now.

1249
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 2: That could have just been the individual matchups, and there

1250
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: was no data, by the way, at the time on women.

1251
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: So to me, we did to have a bit of

1252
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 2: a reset moment. But it's just remember it's if you

1253
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 2: push someone behind the two black lines on more to

1254
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 2: combat dessect. We go over it all the time. I

1255
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: call that the danger zone because it really narrows your

1256
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: options about what you can do, either in the striking

1257
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 2: or wrestling department. You have some, but it creates so

1258
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: much more contained universe, quite literally, and so it reduces

1259
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 2: the number of choices. And if I know your choices

1260
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 2: are reduced, I can make a much easier read on

1261
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 2: what I need to do based on your responses. So

1262
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 2: I tend to think that it will give people advantages

1263
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 2: who do their best work in pressure situations. I think

1264
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 2: that part is true. It will put a premium on

1265
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 2: angular footwork. I think that is also true that I'm

1266
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 2: ready to say it's gonna give wrestlers an advantage in

1267
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 2: modern mma. I mean, intuitively, I want to say yes,

1268
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 2: but takedown defense has generally gotten so good. I don't know.

1269
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true anymore.

1270
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,479
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, that's fair, that's fair.

1271
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: You have many.

1272
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 3: I got a user submitted question from at B Campbell

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01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 3: CBS on Twitter, Luke, will you while shaving your beard

1274
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 3: would be a no go? That's off the table. What

1275
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 3: about modifying? What about you know, maybe coloring parts of

1276
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 3: it Hollywood Hogan's style. What about trimming the mustache but

1277
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 3: letting the bush if you will grow a little bit longer,

1278
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 3: you have any can we get insight on the future

1279
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 3: of your face.

1280
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 2: I've never seen so many men interested in my appearance

1281
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: as I have among MMA fans and media. More folks

1282
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 2: want to tell me what to do with my appearance

1283
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 2: than I've ever had anyone suggest in my life. You

1284
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 2: guys are either my like hair stylists, consultants, my fashion consultants. Really,

1285
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 2: you guys are very invested in what I look like.

1286
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 2: I'm not entirely sure why.

1287
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 3: But well I'll tell you why, Luke, I'll tell you

1288
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 3: why if you have a you have a beautiful daughter

1289
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 3: that you've shared picks with on social media, and people

1290
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 3: are invested in her financial future knowing that you play

1291
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 3: in ungodly one hundred dollars per haircut.

1292
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: Well, right now, I'm gonna getting these cuts, Barras's cuts

1293
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 2: from the wife. Bro. They've been, they've been all right,

1294
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 2: they'd be pretty good. I think I'm getting back, not bad,

1295
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 2: not bad, all right. So we go to at Pulse reloaded.

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01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 2: Is Brian Campbell aware that he resembles Kid Rocks protege

1297
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: early too? I was gonna you say the mischief. He

1298
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 2: died early two thousands pop rock artist Uncle Cracker, and

1299
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 2: if not, would someone please let him know now, what

1300
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 2: does Uncle Cracker look like? Because candidly, BC, I don't know.

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01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 3: This is just not true. Jay, do you have any uncle? Jay?

1302
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 3: How quick can you put Cracker on the screen?

1303
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 2: Jay?

1304
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 3: Okay, seriously, I mean, if you're calling me a cracker,

1305
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 3: it's probably more accurate that you call me a cracker

1306
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 3: than say I look like Uncle Cracker.

1307
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, do you look like Uncle let

1308
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 2: me see? BC? Yeah, a little bit, a little bit,

1309
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 2: but he lost a bunch of weight.

1310
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 3: Is he alive?

1311
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,919
Speaker 2: Is Uncle Cracker alive? That's a great trivia question.

1312
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 3: So you're saying, you know, yeah, he is alive, he's

1313
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 3: forty five. All right, you're saying at my core that

1314
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 3: I have a very uh you know, truck driving Middle America.

1315
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 3: Look to me, I don't believe in that. You know,

1316
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 3: it's Lithuanians. You know, we may we may be industrial,

1317
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 3: but you.

1318
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 2: Know you're a Lithuanian.

1319
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 3: I'm half okay, Okay, BC?

1320
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 2: Is that you right there on the screen?

1321
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,919
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, that's probably the cleanest Uncle

1322
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 3: Cracker has ever looked. But no, no.

1323
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 2: So which one are you? Are you the what is

1324
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 2: it overweight? Lance? Bass? Is that the one? Uh?

1325
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? Chubby lance base is where people are nailing me. Yes, okay, great, Yes.

1326
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: Does anyone ever tell you look like anybody else?

1327
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? Unfortunately most of my life due to my hairstyle choices.

1328
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 3: As a late teen, I was told the Big Country

1329
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 3: Bryant Reeves, which is just not It's coming with no

1330
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 3: Bryant Reeves, Big Country Reeves, Oklahoma state. You know what

1331
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 3: I'm talking about.

1332
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 2: Come on, oh ship dude, you do look like Bryan Reeves.

1333
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 3: No, I don't know.

1334
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 2: You don't have the Johnny unitas flat top, but everything

1335
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 2: else is the same. I just get I get compared

1336
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 2: to any aging, cantankerous man with a beard. That's basically

1337
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 2: what I get compared to.

1338
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably your at your general attitude on life, you.

1339
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 2: Know, all right? So from at I am taskmaster. What

1340
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 2: is your favorite scary movie? The Devil's Candy and Incident

1341
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 2: in a Ghost Land are mine. What do you got

1342
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 2: to see?

1343
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 3: We've talked in the past about our favorite horror horror, horror,

1344
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 3: horror horror, Yeah, horror movie. Is it Fade or bat

1345
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 3: Or or Fader Baiter? I'm not really sure, you know,

1346
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 3: I think Saul One is a classic. I always stand

1347
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 3: by that f you if you think differently. Okay, I

1348
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 3: love that ish It was smart and well done. Do

1349
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 3: I have a favorite movie that freaks me out and

1350
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 3: scares me? You know, I haven't gone in that direction

1351
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 3: in a while. You know, I did tell you I

1352
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 3: went to The Invisible Man in in imax, and uh,

1353
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 3: I may have scared myself that based on substances, luke

1354
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 3: going to that movie alone. But you know what happens, right?

1355
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 2: Did you go to a movie and trip acid? That's

1356
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 2: not a good idea, that's not not best practices, uh

1357
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 2: for me again, Scary movies, like when they're designed to

1358
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 2: be scary, they usually like so comically stupid. I can't

1359
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 2: get into it. But there was one movie that was

1360
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: like a grindhouse kind of movie. Uh. Did you ever

1361
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 2: see the twenty eighteen Nicholas Cage movie Mandy No? Oh dude,

1362
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 2: The way it's shot and then some of the some

1363
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 2: of like the evil people in it. Like that was

1364
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 2: one of those movies I was watching at night with

1365
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 2: my wife any both of us were a little bit like,

1366
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 2: you know, hold me kind of scary. It's it's a

1367
01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 2: very strange sort of artsy fartsy grindhouse kind of flick,

1368
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 2: and it is frightening. Some of some of the characters

1369
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 2: in it are truly truly frightening, and the scenarios are frightening.

1370
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 3: I walked out of a theater once in the nineties

1371
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 3: because of being sick to my stomach and frightened. And

1372
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 3: it sounds a little like maybe lame in hindsight. Do

1373
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 3: you remember Natural Born Killers with Woody Heilson. Yes, I

1374
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 3: was just so like expecting a different movie and was

1375
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 3: just sickened by it that it's the only movie I've

1376
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 3: ever left early where I didn't leave early because I

1377
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 3: was puking.

1378
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 2: I've got a horror movie for you that'll scare the

1379
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 2: Bejesus out of you. You're ready. And it actually was

1380
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 2: like a little bit unnerving to me as well, because

1381
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 2: there's a scene where a lady's trying to cut her

1382
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 2: own head off with piano wire hereditary. Have you seen that?

1383
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 3: No, I haven't.

1384
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 2: Whoa WHOA, dude. That's another level of horror movie that

1385
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,439
Speaker 2: is a little bit uncomfortable, if you know what I'm saying.

1386
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: Lot.

1387
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 3: You know we used to do as kids, We'd put

1388
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 3: on Peewee's Big Adventure, put our eyes right up against

1389
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 3: the TV screen for the large march segment where our

1390
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 3: eyes popped out, and then just freak ourselves out to

1391
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 3: see who could have the worst nightmares.

1392
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 2: I never did that, but but actually.

1393
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 3: Died like Uncle Cracker there.

1394
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 2: I know I did a little bit, a little bit.

1395
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 2: Where where is your I called him a midge earlier?

1396
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 2: Should not do that? Little person? What was his name?

1397
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 2: The kid rock little person.

1398
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 3: Is Joe is something? Joe Jay? Can you look this?

1399
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 3: I try not to be involved in kid rock projects,

1400
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 3: all right, Joe c see.

1401
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 2: You never had a You never had a bottle of

1402
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 2: Boons Farm before a party.

1403
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 3: Oh, I've had a lot of bad nights with booms Farm.

1404
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 3: Believe me, when you get remember that when you're eighteen

1405
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:41,919
Speaker 3: you can get that for like two dollars and twenty

1406
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 3: five cents and just can't. If you drink two Boons

1407
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 3: Farm bottles, you're gonna be doing some illegal things.

1408
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 2: Yes, I've done. I've had a lot of good times

1409
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 2: on Boon's Farm. I'm not above it all right, Last,

1410
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 2: but not least, this comes us from D S. Crop O. Uh,

1411
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 2: what's your worst breakup story? You know? I actual don't

1412
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 2: have terrible breakup stories all of mine.

1413
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 3: The parameters, what's the parameters of a worst breakup story?

1414
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 3: Like what do you what are we looking for? The

1415
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 3: most distraught we were in things we did that we

1416
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 3: regret or how heartbroken were you or did you tell

1417
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,479
Speaker 3: the girl off? Like what's what's what are we looking

1418
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 3: for you?

1419
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I've definitely been broken down from being distraught before. Uh,

1420
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 2: but I don't know they've had like, like you know

1421
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 2: of those one of the moments where you get dumped

1422
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 2: and then like you're standing on the sidewalk and it's

1423
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 2: all cinematic that the car comes by and splashes the

1424
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 2: puddle one all over you. Yeah, it ruins. You're holding

1425
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 2: up a.

1426
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 3: Boom box, yeah, wearing a trench coat.

1427
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, like one of the one of the

1428
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 2: bad nights with boons Farm, not one of the good nights.

1429
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 2: Like have you ever had one of those?

1430
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, yeah, you know, I've I've taken some l's, Luke.

1431
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 3: We can leave it at that, you know, Oh buddy.

1432
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 2: I've taken I've taken l's, but not quite like that.

1433
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 3: Uh yeah yeah yeah, no, no, next question.

1434
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you can't leave them hanging if you

1435
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 2: got something you got to share.

1436
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 3: It's still real to me, damn it.

1437
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think I've never had I've definitely

1438
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 2: gone on benders, you know, from like being sad, you know,

1439
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But the breakup themselves were all

1440
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 2: fairly unremarkable as it relates to, like great stories. I

1441
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 2: don't have any of those, unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah, but I've

1442
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 2: done some bad I've done some bad breaking up. I'll

1443
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 2: tell you that over text. I wish they were that formal. Yeah, yeah,

1444
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,520
Speaker 2: I wish I had been that communicative.

1445
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 3: Have you ever left in the middle of the night,

1446
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 3: just got in the car and drove away and never

1447
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:47,719
Speaker 3: never had correspondence Again, I did.

1448
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 2: Want to talk. I used to ghost on the I

1449
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 2: even ghosted. I've even ghosted from my own room where

1450
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 2: you know, you wake up and you're like, who is

1451
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 2: this creature next?

1452
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's a different story. That's not a relationship.

1453
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 3: That's to ghost a hook up. Ghosting a hookup in

1454
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 3: your own place of residence takes skill, like you had.

1455
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 3: I would sometimes set the alarm for five minutes and

1456
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 3: then go take a thirty minute shower and hope that

1457
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 3: they got the message by the time I got the shower.

1458
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 2: Oh no, I wouldn't do that. But I had one

1459
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,839
Speaker 2: where I had I had a board on my fraternity

1460
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 2: room door and I had it would have like a

1461
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 2: schedule and like where I was, and it was, I

1462
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 2: mean very rarely filled out, and you know, my fratunia

1463
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 2: brothers would draw dicks on it and stuff. But I

1464
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 2: remember I woke up one time, I'm not going to

1465
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 2: say it was like the best moment of my life,

1466
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my god, what am I

1467
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 2: gonna do? And like this person is in my room.

1468
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 2: So I'm like, what am I gonna do? So I

1469
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 2: actually went and wrote on my board. This was like

1470
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 2: seven thirty in the morning. This was I just didn't

1471
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 2: have the heart to like kick her out, so I

1472
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 2: just wrote at community service, won't be back for a while,

1473
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 2: and then drove to like a local coffee shop and

1474
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 2: just waited till noon and then came back and she

1475
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 2: was gone. That was say anything, It was great at

1476
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 2: herpes test be back later getting COVID nasal swabs. Won't

1477
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 2: be back ever.

1478
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 3: Please leave. Hey Luke, do you have any political commentary

1479
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 3: on the lack of socials distancing during the rioting over

1480
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 3: the week.

1481
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 2: And that was the other part about it. I was like,

1482
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 2: did you fuckers just forget what we've been doing the

1483
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 2: last two months? I guess you did.

1484
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 3: I guess you get ready to look full stadiums February first,

1485
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 3: I'll meet you there.

1486
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 2: Okay, you're paying attention to what happened in South Korea.

1487
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 2: So they tried to do that. You know what happened?

1488
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 2: They yanked it fast? What fast? What happened? Oh, they

1489
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: tried to put start putting people in the stands and

1490
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 2: it backfired immediately. So but Denmark has opened up all

1491
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 2: their schools and they've had no issues.

1492
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 3: So I think I would move to Denmark if this

1493
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 3: country went under Luke.

1494
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I might. They might be. It's pretty nice over there. Okay,

1495
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 2: without further ado, BC, it is time for your portion

1496
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 2: of the show where you get to drive the ships

1497
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 2: or I hand the keys over to you.

1498
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 3: You could argue, Luke that we have never needed this

1499
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 3: more as a society, as a show, as an audience.

1500
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 3: We scour the globe for the good, bad, the ugly,

1501
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 3: the m between. Wow, chubby lance Bie there he is

1502
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 3: chubby chubby Lance Bite. I don't see the resemblance at all. Okay,

1503
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 3: I mean shout out to Lance Space. Okay, he had

1504
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,560
Speaker 3: a great music career. You know he wanted to go

1505
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 3: into space that time. You know, like I don't. I

1506
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 3: don't do stuff like that. We don't have the same hobbies, Luke. Okay,

1507
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 3: all right, right, all right, anyway, here here we go.

1508
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 3: Let's start with we always start with with with real

1509
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 3: fights and people getting sent to the deep dark depths.

1510
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 3: Here's one championship. How about this triple upper cook Ko

1511
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 3: from The Ultimate Warrior. Check that out?

1512
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 2: Two, three and from an angle. So look the first two,

1513
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 2: the first two are inside the right, the left arm,

1514
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 2: and then the third is behind it. You see that two?

1515
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 2: You see that?

1516
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he stepped us all our our warriors out there

1517
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 3: who flood flood my dms with this stuff.

1518
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's amazing, that's fantastic.

1519
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 3: All right, Well roll on to there, Luke. I want

1520
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 3: to go to a promotion called Battle for and this

1521
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 3: was the Volga Guard Battle. The gentleman's name is EMM Shafi.

1522
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 3: Check out this savage head kick ko. Oh my god, bro,

1523
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 3: Holy Jesus ee Society. Indeed, Luke, Wow.

1524
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 2: And the best part was the dude was even fading

1525
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 2: away from it.

1526
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm looking him pull the sword in celebration. That

1527
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 3: is this is tremendous.

1528
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 2: Well, I mean he's fighting. I mean who is this

1529
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 2: gas station attended this gentleman?

1530
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 3: Does that guy have like duct tape around his left chin?

1531
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 2: Oh? Good question. He's got that Luke rock Hold against

1532
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 2: Yaan Blohovitch thing. Oh yeah, that like the glove, the

1533
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 2: the shin sleeve or whatever.

1534
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 3: Did you ever see Luke rock Hold on that show

1535
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,759
Speaker 3: Millionaire Matchmaker on A and E when that lady uh

1536
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 3: sent him to hell? The host she just buried him.

1537
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 2: I told you about this, dude. My dms were flooded

1538
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 2: after that from women looking for him.

1539
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I told you this thirsty women. No, you

1540
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 3: do not tell me that, Oh dude.

1541
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 2: So after he goes on Millionaire Matchmaker, my dms get

1542
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 2: lit up with all of these thirsty women and I'm like, lady,

1543
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 2: you are You're about to be disappointed in ways you

1544
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 2: never thought possible. Uh, this is not the right Luke

1545
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 2: from MMA, trust me.

1546
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 3: Oh, they were coming at I thought, okay, I thought

1547
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 3: they were going to ask you to like his contact and.

1548
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,799
Speaker 2: No, no, they just didn't pay attention to the deats

1549
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 2: and they thought he was me.

1550
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 3: And I was like, ah, come on, come on, Luke,

1551
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:31,640
Speaker 3: you look a lot more than they look more like

1552
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 3: Kid Rock than you do. Luke Rockold.

1553
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 2: I'm not, this is what I'm saying. I was like,

1554
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 2: with all these ladies blind. Do they understand, like there

1555
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 2: is a clear departure here we're barely the same species

1556
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 2: me and Luke Rockold. But they did. Dude, I can't lie.

1557
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 2: They did.

1558
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 3: All right, Jay, let's go to the next one.

1559
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 2: Here.

1560
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 3: Check out this new drunken dance here. Luke, you down

1561
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 3: with this? I don't know what we call this the purge.

1562
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 3: I mean, look at my man right there. Look at

1563
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 3: this homeboy and the uh yeah, broke.

1564
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:03,560
Speaker 2: He's not wearing one thing that fits.

1565
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 3: Including the alcohol he drank. Get that crap out, dude.

1566
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:08,839
Speaker 2: The back.

1567
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 3: Yeah he is, he is just brother.

1568
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 2: He's wearing overalls that don't fit. The backpack is sacking.

1569
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 2: The shirt is like a triple xcel. He's got a

1570
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 2: snap back on.

1571
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 3: Wow, he's getting it right though. I mean, he's in

1572
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 3: mid drink. He realizes he's gonna have issues, so he's like,

1573
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 3: I need to get this poison out of me. So

1574
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 3: I can go on with my life. Look, we've all

1575
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 3: been there the next morning. You know what I'm saying.

1576
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 2: Listen, listen. I'm not gonna sit here and tell you

1577
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 2: I've never puked and rallied because I have. Wow, this

1578
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 2: gentleman was living my life twice. This is me twenty

1579
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 2: years ago. Basically.

1580
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is great. I love that. Like you know,

1581
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 3: it didn't break his rhythm. He's still you know, I

1582
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 3: gotta dance, you know, I just want to dance.

1583
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 2: I want to I want to know. This is he

1584
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 2: dancing the Uncle Cracker? What is he dancing to?

1585
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 3: That's great? Oh wow? Yeah, yeah, wow, okay, all right, hey,

1586
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 3: uh check out this drunk grandpa. This has got to

1587
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 3: be in Florida. Here. Check out this drunk grandpa shouting

1588
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 3: out some people in the upper day. Yeah we had

1589
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 3: a good time outs and I watch out.

1590
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 2: It's just not morning combat without elder abuse. Bro Santa

1591
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 2: had a few too many. Is this the guy for

1592
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 2: the head the diabetes commercial? Who is this.

1593
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:32,959
Speaker 3: Brimley? Now? That's awesome?

1594
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 2: Oh that is he looks He looks like a mix

1595
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 2: of Wolford Brimley and Jimmy Johnson.

1596
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 3: Uh shout out as much fails one of my new

1597
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 3: a little bit. I think if you zoomed in you

1598
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 3: disagree with that kind of looks like a prime uh

1599
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 3: uh Murph Griffin right there?

1600
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,959
Speaker 2: Maybe, Uh yeah.

1601
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 3: It's gotta be Florida. They have a lot of rich

1602
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 3: ten white people down there. And shout out to this guy.

1603
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 3: All right, Luke, let's roll on here. Uh check you

1604
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 3: ever been on a on a chopper before? Look? You

1605
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:07,839
Speaker 3: ever been on a chopper naked?

1606
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 2: What the fuck are we watching? All right?

1607
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? Easy rider there, Luke.

1608
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, is he like sitting on the chopper so it'll

1609
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 2: vibrate against his.

1610
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know, but yeah, sure breaks

1611
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 3: this quarantine up a little bit, right, That's that's gotta hurt.

1612
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 3: I'm not sitting on that seat afterwards. Look, look, would

1613
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 3: you smell that seat for a thousand dollars?

1614
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 2: You can't smell much worse than the chair I've been

1615
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,799
Speaker 2: sitting in all quarantine where I infrequently shower.

1616
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 3: All right, hey, let's pull it back together. Hey more,

1617
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 3: I'm this guy to come. But I wanted to show

1618
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 3: you my new hero, the alpha, the Ginger, the Alpha

1619
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 3: Ginger Spike Carlisle, Luke, what do you make of this

1620
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 3: way in uh crane kick and masks set up? Can

1621
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 3: you catch the COVID through that ship?

1622
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, But that's the mask. Is that the

1623
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 2: mask that people use when they go to orgies? Yeah?

1624
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 3: I was gonna say it's very it's very eyes wide shut.

1625
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 3: Likely you don't wear pants when you wear that mask. Yeah,

1626
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 3: it's like one of.

1627
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:20,640
Speaker 2: Those like are you in a cult that you know

1628
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 2: you murder the poor and also bang everyone else's wife

1629
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 2: and stuff. I don't know. Isn't that one of those?

1630
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:27,799
Speaker 2: Is that one of those masks?

1631
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 3: It does? Look look at that Billy Q no sell

1632
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 3: the hog afterwards. I mean, it is quarantine season, right,

1633
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 3: I know.

1634
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 2: I mean, but you know, if you hug a guy

1635
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 2: like that, you got to do other things to him,

1636
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 2: so he.

1637
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 3: Probably I mean f in fighting, it's all the same Luke, right.

1638
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 3: You know.

1639
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 2: It's what war Machine said at a time. Oh wow, wow,

1640
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 2: don't you don't you remember when he first started doing porn.

1641
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 2: He took to Twitter and he was like, now I'm

1642
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 2: effing and fighting my two favorite things. I'm like, well,

1643
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 2: you seem like a very stable person.

1644
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 3: Now I'm dead the ultimate high. Yeah, that put that yeah,

1645
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 3: all right, I wonder how his quarantine's going. All right,

1646
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 3: let's roll on here, Luke. Here's what you ever do

1647
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 3: a skateboarding trick in front of your parents? Like you know,

1648
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 3: your parents will will chair anything. But check this out?

1649
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 3: All right?

1650
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 1: All right?

1651
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1652
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 1: Not bad?

1653
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 2: Right?

1654
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:16,440
Speaker 3: Not bad? Okay?

1655
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 2: Wow?

1656
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 3: They failed as parents? What is happening here, Luke?

1657
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 2: That that I think that's basically what my parents think

1658
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 2: I've done with my life.

1659
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1660
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 2: So, like my dad's like, sure, I mean, you haven't

1661
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 2: been evicted yet or gone to jail.

1662
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 3: Great, but have you opened a restaurant?

1663
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 2: Right?

1664
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 3: Have you done foreign diplomat service?

1665
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 2: No?

1666
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 3: You're still talking about the damn cage fighters, Luke. No.

1667
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. My dad also thinks that my

1668
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 2: brother and sister are losers, even though they opened a

1669
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 2: restaurant too. It's like, do we're all losers in our

1670
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 2: own equal parts? Way?

1671
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 3: Wow, your dad's a hard ass? Can we get him

1672
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 3: on the show. What's what's his name?

1673
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 2: Robert har to please? He's ol Old Bob's Old Bob

1674
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 2: is hard to please.

1675
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 3: I'll get I could. Do you think? How could I

1676
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 3: pop Colonel Bob in five minutes or less? Just to

1677
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 3: have him laughing his balls off.

1678
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 2: No, it's not possible, dude, I got I got I

1679
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 2: remember one time my brother and I got this academic award.

1680
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 2: I won't say what it is for, but it was

1681
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 2: very prestigious in high school. Okay, So we get it,

1682
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 2: and we.

1683
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 3: Tell you, whoa, whoa, whoa? Why are you? Why are

1684
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 3: you all like you know, why are you all like

1685
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 3: weird about I won't tell you that I was a

1686
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 3: Rhodes scholar, Like, what what do you mean?

1687
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 2: It wasn't It's high school, so it's not that. I'm

1688
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 2: just trying to say, set the context and literally we

1689
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 2: told him we got it, and he looked at us

1690
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 2: and he goes, this is a very old person thing

1691
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 2: to say. He goes, well, yeah, in the land of

1692
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 2: the Blind, the one eyed man is king. We're like, great, okay,

1693
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 2: all right, thanks dad. Sweet you wonder why I'm depressed

1694
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 2: all the time.

1695
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm laughing at it. All right. Hey,

1696
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 3: look you remember baby Jessica from the late eighties. We

1697
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 3: got a new one trying out here. Wow, that's a

1698
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 3: great setup, bad parenting one on one here, God.

1699
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 2: Down in dude, she just tossed that manhole cover like

1700
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 2: it was nothing losing control?

1701
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 3: Hey, Dally, right, that's like, are we laughing at this? Was? He? Uh?

1702
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 2: Dude, he you know what? He was just playing a

1703
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 2: real life game of Mario over there.

1704
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, Luke, Uh, I don't know if you know that.

1705
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 3: If you heard the salons in Russia are now open

1706
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 3: post COVID, so uh check this? Yeah, check this out?

1707
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 3: Can we advance the video here? Jay? I mean, you know,

1708
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 3: if you have an aversion to scissors, Luke, this may

1709
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:46,879
Speaker 3: get the job done, right.

1710
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 2: You know, dude, why do we watch haircuts like on

1711
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 2: this show? Haircuts are by fire machete, animal attack.

1712
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 3: By uh uh you know what's on the hammer and sickle?

1713
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is infectious disease. Uh, no one ever gets

1714
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 2: a normal haircut on this show.

1715
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 3: What the are they doing? Look at that? Look at

1716
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 3: that handle? I got it from, Luke.

1717
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 2: Look at this Russian Oh I bet there is just

1718
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 2: a smorgas board of material on that thing.

1719
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's roll on here. You know they

1720
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 3: call Steve Spurrier the old ball coach. Luke sow's this guy.

1721
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 2: This is too easy. It's just too easy, all right?

1722
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 3: This week in Art, Luke that is great. Yeah, come on, guy,

1723
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 3: you can't stand there. Okay. This week in art, Luke,

1724
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 3: I do ask the same question that Least the Turtle

1725
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 3: asked once. Uh is this our are? We are? Is

1726
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 3: our r?

1727
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 2: Look?

1728
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 3: Have you ever visited that valley?

1729
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 2: What the fuck? Am I looking at it?

1730
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 3: A great vacation spot?

1731
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 2: Uh?

1732
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:11,719
Speaker 3: Hello, all you cool cats and kits.

1733
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, psychological counseling.

1734
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 3: All right, that's uh, I guess I guess that one.

1735
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:20,679
Speaker 3: That one. Uh, you know, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

1736
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 3: We'll take an l on that one. Okay, let's go on. Uh.

1737
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 3: We had that beer chugger last week, Luke, that guy

1738
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 3: you know, Ronnie Deuts, shout out to him. Check out

1739
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 3: this beer chugger. Look, please break down the what diseases

1740
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:34,679
Speaker 3: this man has acquired from this move?

1741
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 2: Right?

1742
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 3: Here?

1743
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 2: Are you fucking kidding me? Dude? We're literally drinking out

1744
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:41,839
Speaker 2: of the garbage now.

1745
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 3: Not us, Luke, We're just we're just laughing at it.

1746
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 3: All right. This is a mirror on society at the moment, Luke.

1747
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 2: This is a homeless wine.

1748
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:56,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, that angered you, Luke sorright, Wow, this

1749
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 3: is we had a good run on this segment.

1750
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 2: But no, I just don't even I can believe that

1751
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 2: were I mean, I guess I can. You know, the

1752
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 2: common denominator here is whether it's in the Netherlands or

1753
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 2: Russia or here in Liso Statosnitos, there's a lot of

1754
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 2: bored white people who this is us, dude, this is

1755
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 2: there's probably at the preakedness or something.

1756
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 3: I mean, they're crazy. Yeah, there's probably a lot of

1757
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 3: caffeine in that though. It's because it looks like there's

1758
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 3: a lot of Red Bulls and coffee cups in there.

1759
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe so maybe so that sounds about right.

1760
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 3: Would you drink that for a chance to sit front

1761
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 3: row at Jones and Ghana in the John Morgan chair.

1762
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 2: I wouldn't drink that for to go back in time

1763
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 2: and be twenty years old again.

1764
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, borrow some jigawatts from Jay. Hey did you

1765
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 3: ever see jays back to the future documentary called Back

1766
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 3: in Time? It's a classic flick. I mean, all right,

1767
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 3: let's close with this, Luke. We started a new movement

1768
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 3: last week with those Indian boys. We didn't know what

1769
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 3: to call it. Well, our our viewer, Fernando as I

1770
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 3: qu I on instagt Graham. He's calling this grip to

1771
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 3: grip is the new COVID handshake? Jake, can we play

1772
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 3: it so we have to watch this grossness anymore? This

1773
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 3: is him and his buddy, I think, but can.

1774
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 2: He's wearing a Luke Tova's shirt, the gentleman on the right.

1775
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 3: I didn't pick up on that. That's great, Jake. Can

1776
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 3: you do him?

1777
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 2: Man?

1778
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, post production, can you get in there?

1779
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 3: Jn can you can you swim in a little bit? Jay? Can?

1780
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 3: We don't worry. It's a live show. It's all right.

1781
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 2: What happened? Jay? Can you put it back? Put it

1782
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 2: back on the screen at least?

1783
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 3: Whoa Jay? All right? Anyway, this is the new handshake

1784
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 3: during COVID and shout out to Fernando on Instagram. There

1785
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 3: who uh is? Is putting it into practice, Lucas, There

1786
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:51,600
Speaker 3: we go, There we go. It's not what this is.

1787
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 2: This is the new handshake.

1788
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 3: This is grim What should we call it?

1789
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 2: Though?

1790
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 3: He wants to do grip to grip? Should it be

1791
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 3: a grip to tip? Where are we going with this?

1792
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 2: I like grip to grip. I think grip grip is

1793
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 2: pretty great, all right?

1794
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 3: It makes it a lot less uh, awkward and relational.

1795
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 2: That is amazing, right, these gentlemen are true believers this.

1796
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:18,560
Speaker 2: Look at our audience, BC, Look what we have cultivated.

1797
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 2: Look at you.

1798
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 3: We have started a movement in the movie why apparently amazing.

1799
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 3: That's great, that's great stuff. Thank you, Fernando, Thank you.

1800
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 3: Now you're the laughing stock of your community. Thank you, Fernando.

1801
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 3: All right, look that's the ish this week. Hope you

1802
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 3: enjoyed it. We needed a laugh, Okay, Luke, that was

1803
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 3: good except for that sad part about your dad. We

1804
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 3: needed a laugh.

1805
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm over it, not really, but I'm over it.

1806
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 3: Okay.

1807
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 2: You see, With that in mind, it is time for

1808
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 2: odds and ends? What do you got for us?

1809
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 3: I was gonna talk to you about Lance, but I uh,

1810
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 3: you know, I had some setbacks technologically wise this morning.

1811
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 3: I did not get to watch it. So while I

1812
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 3: ruined that segment, what I did watch, Luke, was what

1813
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 3: I teased earlier this past Saturday, UFC Vegas, Spike Carlyle.

1814
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 3: I was not prepared, I was not woke for all

1815
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 3: things Alpha Ginger. He pushed Billy Corntillo to the limit.

1816
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 3: He almost gassed out he got almost sucker punched Ko.

1817
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:20,759
Speaker 3: He's a friggin weirdo. But I love this man, Luke.

1818
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:23,679
Speaker 3: I love this man. I need him on TV as

1819
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:25,600
Speaker 3: willing as he will be to go out there and

1820
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 3: make money, because, unlike the clowns that you love, Johnny Walker,

1821
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 3: Red Michelle Paedaeda, this guy clowns in an effort to

1822
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 3: win the fight. He started with a running kick to

1823
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 3: the face, and he's just putting it on Billy Q,

1824
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 3: the better fighter, the guy who rightfully won. But he

1825
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 3: created so many of these oh crap crazy moments, and

1826
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 3: most of them, except for the odd end to round

1827
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 3: one when he started walking away and got Floyd on,

1828
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 3: Victor ortized it was in an effort to win the fight.

1829
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 3: I think he's got potential here, fun to watch. He

1830
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 3: tweeted afterwards that they should build a statue for him.

1831
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,559
Speaker 3: I will I will kneel at that statue. Luke, give

1832
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 3: me this guy, give it to me.

1833
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 2: I don't know when I became the guy who was

1834
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 2: like the biggest Johnny Walker or a Perira fan. I

1835
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 2: just didn't think that they were awful human beings. But okay,

1836
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 2: certainly I agree. The dude is first of all. He

1837
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 2: appears to be like a physical powerhouse, which is part

1838
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 2: of it. And he's got like this, uh, he's got

1839
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 2: like Anthony Pettis grappling, where when you think you've got

1840
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 2: a dominant position, he reverses it all the time, you

1841
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And so constantly he was able

1842
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:35,839
Speaker 2: to like reset the fight, but then he would just gas.

1843
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:38,639
Speaker 2: But then when he walked away before the round ended,

1844
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 2: I was like, this is the greatest man in the

1845
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 2: history of fighting. I don't know what the fuck he

1846
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 2: is doing, but I love every part of it. You're right,

1847
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 2: he is he is. He is absolute entertainment. And by

1848
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 2: the way, someone like there's this parody Twitter account thing

1849
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 2: happening all the time now with fighters. There was one

1850
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 2: for Roosevelt Roberts, and there's one for him. He's not

1851
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 2: on Twitter. So if you see something like that that's

1852
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 2: actually not him, just everybody knows real quickly. I guess

1853
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 2: I have two of these. I did not put this

1854
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 2: on the rundown, but I mentioned it very briefly. Dana

1855
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:09,719
Speaker 2: White confirmed that the Rebok deal is expiring this year

1856
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 2: and that they may go back. But if you talk

1857
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 2: to other fighters who've had conversations with Reebok, and I

1858
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 2: had one with Joe Lozan years ago on the record.

1859
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 2: I mean, he did not think that Reebok was up

1860
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 2: for another one of these. But at the same time,

1861
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 2: Reebok had CrossFit in their portfolio at the time and

1862
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 2: they no longer do. And the two biggest ones they've

1863
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 2: ever had were CrossFit and UFC. So I don't know,

1864
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 2: I don't know how that's going to go, but pretty

1865
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 2: clearly the UFC is not going to go back to

1866
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 2: what they had before, which was you know, this one

1867
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars sort of tax essentially allowed to be

1868
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 2: sponsoring someone and then you know the whole NASCAR effect.

1869
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 2: They're not going to do that. I remember also, because

1870
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember this, before they got

1871
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 2: to the Rebok deal, they started having select Fighters where

1872
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:55,680
Speaker 2: like head to toe UFC apparel, and it actually was

1873
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 2: pretty decent apparel. They might just go back to that,

1874
01:28:57,760 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 2: to be honest, but we'll see if they signed within

1875
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 2: a D or a Nike or something like that, or

1876
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 2: maybe tap out.

1877
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 3: It is an expression of combat known worldwide.

1878
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:09,639
Speaker 2: Look, yeah, but now aren't they with WWE or something.

1879
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're co owned or something like that. Yeah. Whatever.

1880
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 2: The last thing I'll say about this is I remember

1881
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 2: when the UFC started that they announced a lot of

1882
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 2: proceeds would go to this charity in Brazil. I don't

1883
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 2: know what the hell ever happened with that, and that

1884
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 2: all the proceeds of sales with their fighters name on

1885
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 2: it would like go to them. I don't know one fighter.

1886
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm saying it hasn't happened, but I can't

1887
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 2: find one fighter that got one royalty check from that.

1888
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,919
Speaker 2: Not one. So maybe like a Connor or a Cane

1889
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 2: or a Ronda did, probably maybe even a John Jones,

1890
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 2: but everyone else didn't get jack. So I don't have

1891
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 2: much hope for a rebound deal. I guess we'll see.

1892
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 2: And then lastly, Sean O'Malley told me that he wasn't

1893
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 2: willing to fight higher echelon guys unless he got paid more.

1894
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 2: So I don't know, BC is this the new trend?

1895
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 2: Fighters are like, I'll find who you want for X amount,

1896
01:29:58,240 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 2: but you want to do that, it's got to be

1897
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 2: why I amount? I don't know.

1898
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's a new trend if you're at

1899
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 3: the very top. Obviously, Sean is a marketable, younger guy.

1900
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 3: So it's a little bit different than normal. But I

1901
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 3: do wonder what this will mean to the value of

1902
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 3: a championship if more fighters at a certain point in

1903
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 3: their career go. You know, all this title gives me

1904
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 3: is a gauntlet of tough fights in a row. When

1905
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 3: I believe my star is bright enough that I can

1906
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Speaker 3: start making Connor one off you know, super fights, right,

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Speaker 3: I could start fighting the Diaz is the Masvidal type

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Speaker 3: guys in one offs, and that's more important and it's

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Speaker 3: better to my health and business financial future than staying

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Speaker 3: in the gauntlet's It'll be interesting. I don't know. I

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Speaker 3: mean how they would get around that is by making

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Speaker 3: it more profitable, but we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Last thing I want to say about this is

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Speaker 2: to all of our clients, coins clients, to our audience here, clients.

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Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I just I can barely think of all

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Speaker 2: this stuff going on. I mean, I started the show

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Speaker 2: and on sort of a sour note. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to end on a sour note, but a little bit

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Speaker 2: kind of am A lot of layoffs that have taken

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Speaker 2: place in the business, particularly on the Vox media side,

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Speaker 2: so that would be MMA fighting Bloody Elbow, bat left Hook,

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Speaker 2: MMA Mania, they take place today, they start today, And

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Speaker 2: so I know there's been a lot of cuts from

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Speaker 2: a lot of good folks. MMA Fighting lost, Pizza Carroll

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Speaker 2: they lost. I just found out they lost Mike Chiappetta.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's another major site that's had a bunch

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Speaker 2: of furloughs, rolling furloughs. You know, it's a tough time

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Speaker 2: in the media business generally. And here's the funny part

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Speaker 2: about that, Like UFC maybe missed a couple of shows,

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Speaker 2: not a whole lot, which it goes to tell you

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Speaker 2: that like these cuts from COVID nineteen loss, I mean,

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Speaker 2: the losses have been so tremendous. It hit the advertising

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Speaker 2: business so hard they were going to happen. No matter

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Speaker 2: what UFC could have put on all of their shows,

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Speaker 2: it wouldn't have changed anything. So to all the folks

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Speaker 2: who you know are out without a job today, we

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Speaker 2: hear you, we see you, We're sorry, we hope you

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Speaker 2: make a quick rebound, and we've got our eyes on

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Speaker 2: you for your next step. So just thought, I say that.

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Speaker 3: Very nice to you, Luke. I like that, okay, And

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Speaker 3: just regarding your your father, it's not your fault.

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Speaker 2: Are you gonna hug me now like good will hunting

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Speaker 2: and I'm try in your arm?

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Speaker 3: I just goodwill hunting you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, but then my dad's like, my dad's gonna

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Speaker 2: show up with He's gonna slam a napkin on the

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Speaker 2: on the glass and go how about those apples? Okay,

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Speaker 2: it'll be like a bill from my braces when I

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Speaker 2: was a kid.

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Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, indeed, we're not proud of you. We're

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Speaker 3: proud of you. You know, thank you to everybody who

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Speaker 3: subscribed and stuck with us. And you know, I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna sit here and give you a spiel on that

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Speaker 3: times are crazy. But be nice to people, okay, and

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Speaker 3: take shelter and yeah, thank you, be.

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Speaker 2: Nice to people. I think it is a great sort

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Speaker 2: of to be nice. This is free. Speaking of free,

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Speaker 2: it's free to give us the thumbs up here on

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Speaker 2: on that subscribe button right and share it with somebody.

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Speaker 2: All that is very very free, so please do that.

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Speaker 2: And if you like a free trial on Showtime, you

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Speaker 2: can do this. We'll go to showtime dot com and

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Speaker 2: you can for free give it a trial for thirty days.

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Speaker 2: If you like it, you can keep it. If not,

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Speaker 2: you can bounce. And you saw our social there for

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Speaker 2: like a whopping six seconds. If you guys can put

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Speaker 2: that back on the screen. BC and I are on

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Speaker 2: Twitter and we are on Instagram. You can give us

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Speaker 2: a follow there and then Morning Combat on Instagram, Morning

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Speaker 2: Combat with a K on YouTube, Subscribe, subscribe, subscribe. It

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Speaker 2: really makes a big difference when you do, so, we

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Speaker 2: really appreciate that. BCE. Any parting thoughts.

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Speaker 3: No, No, that's it. Watch our show on Showtime, Extreme

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Speaker 3: Morning Combat Classics with the Great More we're now on

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Speaker 3: Scott Coker. We're pumping those out. A lot of really

1977
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Speaker 3: good stuff and a lot of really good stories. Seriously,

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Speaker 3: seek that out hole. I don't know, Luke, whether that

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Speaker 3: those are gonna end up being accessible digitally or on

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Speaker 3: demand or whatever, but that's a really good memory Memory

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Speaker 3: Lane show. You get to rewatch the fight, you get

1982
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Speaker 3: some great storytelling from those who are there, you get

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Speaker 3: some some MK style breakdowns from Luke and I. Good times.

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Speaker 2: And then lastly, we had we recorded an episod recently.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's aired yet. Scott Coker talked about

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Speaker 2: working with Vettim Finkelstein with fade or for the for

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Speaker 2: Doom fight. Uh, you're gonna want the.

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Speaker 3: Dummy, Yeah, but dummy yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: You're you're gonna want to talk. You're gonna want to

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Speaker 2: hear that, so okay. For Brian Campbell over at CBS Sports,

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Speaker 2: my name is Luke Thomas. For everyone at Showtime and

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Speaker 2: Malka and everything else, we appreciate your patronage today. Until

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Speaker 2: next time, may all of your gains be loyal